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FAQ someone posted before last thread got purged: http://pastebin.com/Be1EkRb5>>12858909It's ok. It'll do for now.
it almost runs perfectly in wine, but I keep moving left and I can't move up. Any help?
obligatory link to the previous thread: >>12843528743 posts. Damn.
>>12859077fuck me wrong tab >>12843360
>>12859077Wrong thread mane
>>12858968>less than 24 hours and people are already cheating
>>12858791can't read shit. But after testing this appears to be moxie.
So, anyone got the patch to work?
>>12859197Confirming that http://tokyotosho.info/details.php?id=848604 is the iso (although you need to extract the rar file twice because of that weird hentai site).This should work.
>>12859221Thank you, anon. Did anyone translate the patch notes?
What does this skill do?
>>12859231looks to be just bugfixes. Perhaps the most notable being that the super repel item no longer consumes two of them per use.
>>12859240Dark-typed U-Turn.
Does Alice have the movepool to back up her Power stats? looks to be a good bulky sweeper105 60 95 120 80 55
Rate, how faggot am I?Remilia is my starter and daiyousei was the first puppet I caught, I only intended to use Dai for a while but she level up mad crazy and her moves/stats are surprising usefulYamame is the new there, but Sanae,Komachi, Mokou and Kokoro are interesting too, which one of those would you recommend me on that last spot?
haha
>>12859197>>12859221>>12859231For anyone that doesnt want to downlaod the game again, try putting your game files under C:\game\FocasLens\幻想人形演舞, then updating. I'm not sure how the game checks if it's installed, but if it does a simple location check, this should solve it.
>>12859388>>12859197Patch? What is this about?
>>12859473Version 1.02 is out>>12858680
>>12859388I'm pretty sure the TPP Community confirmed this didn't work, it was one of the things we tried first.>>12859473Hemo released a 1.02 patch, fixes several things such as Puppets getting the wrong ability and the Super Repel consuming 2 instances on use.
>>12859388I tried this; it doesn't work. It actually checks if you installed something somewhere, regardless of where it actually gets installed.
>>12859328I use Power Alice for in-game and she's pretty great. A shame I have no idea what her abilities do though.
Is there a way to rename a 2hu?
>>12859562Remilia I think
>>12858968Seems like the game has 6th gen trainers, 4th gen OW, and 5th gen battles.
The items are more or less finished at this point. A few stray items remain, mostly unimplemented ones. A few key items, but those aren't hyper important - the only important ones are the Gap Map and that's translated. A few more need some testing to make sure the descriptions match up to in-game effect. Then I need to figure out how to translate one particularly large name. Aside from those, yeah items are done.
How do I run the update? It says r102 on the updater. But it says v1.00 to v1.01 when I open it up.
The NPCs are so cute I want to catch them all.
>>12859593You need to patch from 1.00 to 1.01. Then it patches from 1.01 to 1.02.
>>12859611Game already says it's version 1.01 however.
>>12859613Well then I guess you'll have to find a 1.00 upload!
>>12859562Talk to Remilia after defeating her
>that feel when Reimu appearsShe is the motherfucking Gary of the series
So your install path is stored in %AppData%\Roaming\FocasLens\幻想人形演舞\gn_enbu.ini, not in registry. If you make a gn_enbu.ini file with path to your game folder like pic related you can path the game without installing.
>>12859838patch the game*
Which puppets have Genbu
so I asked earlier in the previous thread, but is there any meaning to Flan running around?
>>12859934None that we know
>>12859481Does it fix the issue with the gibberish in game text?
So far Yumeko is a one-demon wrecking crew. Moxie is just mean.There sure are a lot of steal types early game though. Kinda makes me wish I went for a more elusive type, but eh.
>>12860029that particular issue is client-side
>>12860029Changing the system locale to Japanese fixed it for me.
>>12860046>>12860054I changed my os settings to japanese but its still nonsense, unless i downloaded a corrupt game.
Just wanted to ask , do i find Marisa;s touhoumon near alice's house? Since Alice's house is the only building which i could find in the magic forest.
I'm inclined to believe Nue can appear anywhere, and she is just very rare. I just found her in a cave in the path to the Palace of the Earth Spirits, wtf
>>12860153That's fine. She was sealed underground for a long time.
>>12860159Thing is, she was also spotted in Route 3 and Misty Lake
So, I didn't see anyone post this yet but repels are found in that red pouch. Best way to tell they're repels for me is to note the number in the description. So far, I know theres 250 step ones, but I think theres 100 step ones too.
>>12860213There's 100 ones, 200 and 250 ones, just like pokemon
Is Kokoro viable? I already have Byakuren since she has the same type but goddamn I want my menreki loli , which type does Kokoro change into after the style change?
>>12860378This is what my Power Kokoro looks like. She's normally Void/Light but she also has Protean, which changes her type to whatever move she uses. Overall, I found her performance to be rather average because of her limited type coverage and average speed. Maybe she'd be better if I knew what half her skills do.
>>12860378she helped me get past the early reimu roadblock but other than that she hasn't really done much work since. any boss encounter i've had after that she's just been instantly killed.
Any postgame anon found flan or koishi yet? also whats this stupid bird-with-picture in chireiden?And which item is repel? couldnt figure it out.
>>12860378Viable or not I don't know, but look at this adorable thing. She seems to take a lot of damage though until miracles happen and Moody boosts her defenses.
Power-Aya is a beast. Guarantees all 5 hits of any 2-5 hit move with great type coverage with Wind+Fighting. You'll be seeing her a lot post-game so get used to the pain.Also does anyone know where to get all of the key items for Kasen post-game? I only have 2 of them :/
>>12860378Kokoro did a great job filling. Sometimes she saved me but she's way too slow for me to use herAlso look at this!In the end I guess shes fine. Slow but okay.
>>12860416>>12860560>>12860493Thanks, I will try her out since she has protean/moody and see what happens
>>12860567One's at frogplace near kasens house - some frog had it after I talked to it.one's at reimus shrine see picture.- I don't know if you need to fight shinmyoumaru twice but you should try if it's not there.I think you did get one from that suwako fight - did beat kanako again first dont know if shes there without.and the last one's at taoist cave (best fight.)
Reimu please could you stop yelling your theme wherever you go. I mean well I know it's good but please stop singing it so loudly damn
Thanks for the reply, but the Suwako one gives you a Hold item, not a Key item. The one you're missing comes from the place in the image
>>12860609Whops totally forgot about that one my bad!Also I really don't know what kasen gave me after getting all the items. I guess it's some of the unsellable items in my selling bag.
Yea it's one of the items you use while mixing with Patchouli
Went to Eientei, beat Tewi, then Reisen then Mokou. Faced Marisa outside. Then went to the Misty Lake into the SDM, where I faced Patchouli and Koakuma. And now I'm lost.
Where the fuck do I go? The last place I saw Flandre run by was left past the upper window thing.
>>12860754Go right from that window now and then up I think it's confusing as fuck but you'll need those levels anyways!
>>12859240Once you enter the inner basement(? should be exactly where you stand right now), move up, then right. (I went to the bottom right, which looped back to the top left, from there I went down right along the middle path). This is the one and only time I encountered the "cut scene" of Flandre running.You should encounter a small door, going through leads to 2 doors facing each other. Entering one door gets you to the other (looping endlessly). From there, go up. There are 3 ways with trash cans/vases and 3 doors. Take the correct way 3 times, or you'll be teleported back to the facing doors.
Fucking finally.
>>12860657Two options, start looking for Flandre or face Remilia.
>>12860788Can you face Flandre? If yes, how?
>>12860754The encounter rate is 2-12 steps. Navigating this place is a nightmare.
I beat Remi, what next?>>12860791I know. What's up with this guy and annoying mazes, anyway?
>>12860791Ahaha, just wait for the caves.
NEETori showdown
>>12860800Go down a bit more. You see Aya, she tells you where to go (Genbu stream = Kappa). So, go to the left of the lake where the bridge is.BTW was I supposed to get the map already? I find it weird that I still don't have it.
I have been in this basement for 3 hours. I always find myself way back to a locked door. Like I just don't know /jp/. I'm really frustrated.
>>12860821I've never had a problem with it, but I don't want to go back there and test out different routes.This is what I did:I wanted to explore the whole place, so I started going down walking along the outer wall.So I went down all the way, from there, to the right all the way. This leads to a teleport back to the top left. From there, I went down, say a door, went through it and was back in the library.I repeated the process, but after the teleport I went to the top right, and found myself being teleported back again. So the third time, I went to the middle right, and found a window and Flandre running away. Continue to the right and you find the doors and the way to Remilia.
>>12860819I'm sure theres only one map and thats the fly ability - you'll get it after moriya shrine/mayohiga visit from chen.
>>12860841Thats why I wont go in there at post-game it's real confusing and I still don't know whats the repel-item
>>12860850Repels are called 数珠 (100 steps) and 護符 (200 steps), don't know if there's a third one yet. I bought them in the kappa hideout.
does anyone have any idea how to get to the areas west of the forest of magic?
Waka Waka's sprite is so fucking cute. I want to hug it.
>>12860871damn thanks a lot! gonna try to find flan later today and checking out some caves again!
>>12860879waka a cute.
>>12860821This anon here. I'm working on a map to the SDM basement, but it's done with MS paint while sideways.
>>12860890I think it'd be easier to make and understand with stitched together screenshots.
It's good to know that the box-to-heal trick still works, but I'm not sure if it's going to be all that useful during the game.
>>12860896You're right. Here's the result anyways. It looks like.. Well it's just a plain mess.Point is, from the entrance. Go right, then up, then right, then up, right. Straight until you see the 3 doors. Then middle door, right door then left door. Then you're out of the basement.
>>12860929It actually seems totally fine. A bit messy but after hanging out in there for like 1-2 hours it's easy to understand!
So what's up with the Prismriver house? After you beat all 3 you find a spooky paper in the final room. You can't pick it up and it's gone if you leave the room. Did it say something good?Thre music is great in that place btw. Probably the most atmospheric place so far.
After getting surf from Nitori, what then?
>>12860996go in the water, get items, go back with the kappa, go in the water in the cave, etc. waterwater
>>12860984>>12860984Check the spot the piece of paper was in, you get a hold item that repels wild dolls if first member is holding it
Is screenshots no longer P with patch 1.02? I tried to take a picture but it's not saved anywhere.
The docs say Sukuna is in route 1, is she a rare encounter or something? Also is this route 1?>>12861088I have them here: C:\game\FocasLens\幻想人形演舞\save
>>12861096>>12861096Yes that's where she isThe docs don't lie (I'm keeping an eye on them)
>>12861096Route 1 is the route right outside the temple you start at. And yes, Sukuna does appear there from time to time, along with Nazrin, Chen and Daiyousei (possibly others I haven't seen yet).
>>12861100>>12861098Thanks, damn it's going to be a pain to grind her to NPC Kanako level.
What does it say?Are there any downsides?
>>12861135And forgot pic
>>12861141That means it doesn't have any additional effect. A normal attack.
My Power Nue is level 41 and has only learned a single Spread Move. When does she learn more?
[nitpick intensifies]
This seems to be a reference to a touhou book done by Yakumi Sarai. May be wrong though.Essentially the book is about Sanae who loved Dodos and is sad that they went extinct only for her to find one again in Gensokyo. Seems to have similar art to the book as well.
>>12861307Is there also a reference to the book about Sanae who loved dildos?
is anybody in the postgame? is there a super boss or something (or there was something like a league with a champion in the normal game? who is the final boss anyway?)
>>12861307That's not a dodo. I's a shoebill
>>12861307So in the end this bird might be fanservice only? Thats rather anticlimactic.
>>12861307Bestialityyy>NAISU.jpg
>>12861307>>12861308Maybe. But, I think I mixed up this bird with a different bird. Feel kinda silly now.
>>12861311I actually don't want to spoil the last boss for you. I was pleased with it so you should try to beat it on your own!So far there are only NPC-unlocks or that online-mode unlock but nothing really great. It's nice to see some characters like letty who kicked the shit out of me.We or at least I still don't know about the closed taoist-door and flan is still running around in her maze.
>>12861307>>12861318>>12861320No.There's exatcly the same bird in Satori's background in HM.
>>12861331Oh also there is a door in the final boss-area thats closed totally forgot about it but might be decoration.
>>12861331give away the info, i am immune to spoilers and too lazy to wait for the English patch.
i wonder if they added Red (yeah, RED) as a superboss again, or they can't this time because is actually a game that is sold for real money?
>>12861340I guess if you really want to know.
>>12861347that is pretty cool, was something similar to a league?
>>12861351It was indeed a league and a satisfying one as well!
>>12861359and it gets upgrade in the postgame? if touhoumon does that, is officially better than pokeman X/Y (WORST! POSTGAME! EVER! hell, even ORAS without the battle frontier has better postageme)
anyone know the ability?
Are the items on the first item page needed for something or are they only for selling?
>>12861383Some of them are useful. A quick way to check is to see if there are only 2 options when selecting an item - discard and cancel. If anything else is there, then that item may be useful. That's what I do anyways.
>>12861379Being extremely cute!!
>>12861373This league itself is at around 75 to i think 90? Also there is another door so it MIGHT be an other/harder part of this whole league I really hope so but I can't enter it.No changes after post-game did check
>>12861379Duel, each others' skills will always hit.
>>12861379Not sure about the normal form, but power should have download/lighting rod (light type) and speed should be no guard
I'm starting to get sick of Yamame's theme.
>>12861396I don't want to be that guy, but I'm in the middle of the game and I'd rather if you guys talked in spoilers about stuff like this.
>>12861413My bad! should've done this before sorry anon.
>>12861418Nah don't worry.You avoided posting a non-spoilered picture of the champion so that's good.At least I won't get super steam rolled when I try to challenge the league.
>>12861422Thats the least I could have done in this case. No worries will remember it next time for other anons!
I get an error when I start the game, because my graphics card doesn't support pixel shaders 2.0. There is no mention of this in the official specs page. Is there a way to force the game to work? Should a 2D game even require shaders?
Will Power Remilia ever bother to learn some spread move of should I dump all her EVs on focus already?
>>12861503Mine can learn two at level 63. I already put everything into focus and speed a while ago.
>>12861503>>12861539
>>12861487No, but they can require computers.
Where should I be going after beating yuuka?
>>12861503Why would anyone put EV in anything but speed in sweeper?
We rock climbing now
>>12861539>>12861543Unless those have really good secondary effects I'll just dump everything into focus then.>>12861546She's a mixed sweeper and her highest stat is special.
So, I assume the information which puppets learn which abilities is coded in DollData.dbs. Any idea if this is some sort of shitty custom-made database format, or something more common? Curiously, the first bytes are 'NULL' and a dozen null bytes, which, I assume, wouldn't be the case with homebrown file formats. Anyway, it's not Sqlite. The license file says that the program uses DX-Library, which is a Delphi-DirectX bridge, so the 'd' in 'dbs' might not necessarily be 'database', but maybe 'Delphi' as well.The interweb suggests that DBS is the extension of SqlBase, but the magic bytes don't add up.>>12861546Do you even Pokemon? I'd fall out of my chair laughing if my opponent didn't invest in Atk/SpAtk for a sweeper.
So um... I went through the entirety of hell, fought the fairies and Medicine, and Reimu is still surrounded by those nigger fairies. The road got me back to Youkai Mountain as expected, so I assume the dungeon is over with. How do I save Reimu?
>>12861379Reimu is a strong red and white woman who don't need no man.
Is Kasen really catchable in the Youkai Mountain rock smash area (to the right of Moriya Shrine)?I'm running in circles for half na hour already and see only occasionally a Tenshi. Loads of Momiji/Aya/Hatate. Not a single Kasen.
>>12861595I'm the opposite, found lots of Kasen, but still not a single Tenshi. Keep looking, I guess?
>>12861568Route 5 left from human village - those blocking fairies south'ish are gone now. You don't need to save reimu.
How to grind levels postgame?
>>12861487I can make the game start with 3D-Analyze, there is sound but no picture. So there is probably no way to make it work.
Can someone say what these abilities are? Her power form is just worse in terms of stats than her speed form so the abilities are the only thing that might make her a good choice.
>>12861750for your highlevel team? re-fight touhou NPCs or go for the "league"again near kasen's house are some level 70 puppets and there is an ice cave near SDM in that giant lakefor lowlevels I guess random encounter?
>>12861765Unwavering Heart:Nullifies all Illusion attacks and heals any status abnormality instead.Cocky(Download):Upon being sent out, Sp.Att or Att is raised according to the opponent's stats.
>>12861790Cool thanksCan you do the ones from her speed form too pls?
>>12861812Fuck, one is wrong. Those screenshots look so similar.
>>12861812PositiveWhen stats are lowered, spread attack increases 2 stages.>>12861820GaleSpeed increases by 1.5 when suffering from ailments. Speed will also not decrease when paralyzed.
>>12861855Thanks
>>12861855Pokemon equivalents are Competitive and Quick Feet
what is this and why does it cost 99 sp?
I have here a question where do you find Shou and Hijiri??? I am currently at Hijiri`s temple.
>>12861906In the grass next to the temple. They are rare.
>>12861906Makes the opponent flinch. >>12861900At their temple, not in the graveyard, the little patches of grass to the right of the stairs. Hijiri is rarer. Shou is pretty common.
Anybody know how to get to Muenzuka?
>>12861917Get into the Forest of Magic frrom the Genbu River Stream (it's the area of the Forest that requires surf) then navigate west, you'll reach the Road of Reconsideration and Muenzuka.
>>12861855>GaleMan, for a second my heart stopped thinking it would be that ability
>>12861910>>12861914Thx a lot for the info.What does this attack from Sanae do?? I think increase something for one stage????
>>1286201010% chance to increase all your stats by 1 stage.
Anybody have any idea what these two abilities are for power Alice?
>>12862016Cool this will be my favourite move then. Thx a lot for the info.
>>12862036When this puppet attacks second, the power of her attack is multiplied by 1.3x(similar to Technician)This puppet's support skills cannot be disabled.
>>12862060Thanks
These ramificated caves are more enjoyable when you're farting several cans of repel.
The final battle was difficult, burn saved my ass.
>>12862060That's not similar to Technician. It's Analytic.
>>12862126Ahh, right, my mistake.
>>12862097 Mokou was my secret mvp in this whole league. congrats!
I've seen three different cutscenes of Flan running, can you actually fight/meet her at this point (I haven't defeated Remilia yet and currently am just grinding in her basement to do so)
>>12862148We don't know
>>12862142Would you suggest speed or power style for Mokou?
>>12862155I only tried speed. I didn't care much about my stats on my first "let's explore everything"I personally feel like speed-mokou could be a great doll but other people might disagree. She was useful all the time even if her stats are not that good!
>>12862155Found the fourth one and gave up. It was in the hallway above the locked door.
Catched a Toyosatomimi behind the buddhist temple and she has S rank focused attack and speed, will she be a good sweeper?
So, finished garden of the sun and beat yuuka. now what?
>>12862482100HP 150FoA 60FoD 70SpA 70 SpD 105Spe
>>12862482Power Miko is tied with Power Okuu for 2nd highest Focus Attack in the whole game.
I love the fairy trio arrange
So is Mima good?
>>12862535Someone in Shoddy was saying that they had a sub-par experience with Defense Mima. Her stats in Power form look nice, though.
Does anyone know if Satori has recovery moves?She has a crapload of support moves but I have no idea of what they do.
>>12862574Check if any of them have "HP" in their description. If yes, try testing them out on wilds and see what happens.
>>12862591Looks like she doesn't, I hope she will be usable outside of wobbatori this time around.
Where is Kasen's house?
Hydro Cannon?
So I looked for Kasen for more than half and hour near Moriya shrine and finally got one.And now I leave the oni town in former hell and the first pokemon I encounter on the road to Chireiden is Kasen...
>>12862739Could be Water Spout. Hydro Cannon had 90 accuracy in pokemon.
>>12862739Yeah, it's like Hydro Cannon, but with 100% accuracy. Can't move on the next turn.
Is this supposed to be Pressure?
Does anyone know what Suwako's second ability does? Not the moody one, I think its called optimist. Sorry I don't have pics, posting from phone.
>>12862793It makes her immune to confusion
Wait you can use PP to change abilities?
>>12862805Yeah, as long you have 20pp you can change them at any time how many times you want
>>12862796Alright thanks man
>>12862812except if they're locked by a specific style, such as power Miko.
>>12862788>相手のスキルの消費を2倍にする。Pressure only does +1, doesn't it?
Does hakutaku keine ever make an appearance?
>>12862829Yep.
>>12862836Defense Keine has zen mode
>>12862836It's the zen mode ability of Keine.Or do you mean the NPC?
>>12862788>>12862829Yes, it says that it doubles it, not adds 2. So it's pretty much Pressure.
>>12862851No I meant the actual puppet. So do her stats and type change too?
>>12862858Give me a second and I'll turn mine into Hakutaku mode.
I think Chen levels a bit too fast in this game.
>>12862858see>>12852368>>12852355
>>12862858Defense Keine is bulky and has good def and atk, she's pure steel (the TPP sheet only lists Hakutaku Keine's stats for some reason).Hakutaku mode is Steel/Warrior 95 130 50 55 50 120
>>12862737Left from mayohiga after beating the game - there was a loop-area thats where npc-kasen/her house is. Walk-through-walls anon still here? could you check out if you get into flandre's closed door or the taoist-cave door? Did you try it? If so mind spoiling me? thank you in advance!
>>12862880Or did you try to go into that closed door in the final area/league?
>Eiki's typing isn't Light/DarkONE JOB
I noticed that defense kaguya' stats are really close to blissey's. Does anyone know if she has the movepool to fulfill the same role? After leveling a bit I got a move that's like ingrain but I haven't seen a better recovery or a burn/poison inducing move yet.
Waka waka has 1/2 HP recovery
Is Konngara really rare or does she only spawn in a specific area of hell? I found Kikuri a bunch of times but not one Konngara.
>>12862964She's in the same zone, I've found her next to the hell entrance.
>>12862938Waka Waka is a good girl.
All these pairs of NPCs you find through the game make me think they had double battles in mind but couldn't implement them in time.
...
>>12863016Reminds me of Black/White. God, fuck that game.Hey look, two guys, it's a double battle! Nope, separate fights.Hey look, two guys across from each other, this is definitely a double battle! Nope, back to back fights.Hey look, a big mob of plasma guys! Gotta be a double battle in here somewhere! Nope, just four fucking trainers in a row each with the exact same fucking team.Hey, this gym has two leaders, maybe...oh, forget it, of course it's not.
>>12863039Oh, hey.
Does this game have any of the homogenization issues 1.8 has?
Oh wow, this trainer actually switched out one of her puppets! And no, it wasn't a uturn move.
>>12863103Care to explain?You mean shitty puppet distribution or?
Wow, your trip through Hell ends really anticlimactic.
>>12863184At least it wasn't something super "edgy" but just the fairies messing around.Also Reimu halved your job instead of going for the usual "I'm going to fight some nameless trainers while you fight named NPCs" pokémon games pull off.
>>12863184Gotta love how the final battles in hell have that "urgency", but you can go sleep any time you want right next door.
Just beat Kanako and have been running around in their backyard kinda lost. Am I in the right spot?
>>12863213Sanae gave you the globe(?), and you now have Rock Smash. So you can go to the right of Moriya Shrine (do this first), and you can go to the north of the first town.
>>12863213No, go back to the temple stairs, backtrack a bit while staying on the right, you'll see some rocks.
So SP doesn't matter outside of individual matches since you can just use PP to set a new skill and then set that skill back and have max SP.
Any way to soft reset?
>>12863258not that I know ofAlso neat. Base stat google docs has translated ability names now. Progress!
>>12863267Someone tell them that Defense Keine has two different base stats though, they only have the Hakutaku mode one.
It's great that we have names for abilities. But I'd love to know what they did. Do we have a incomplete list for that?
Where's the next place after getting Fly?
>>12863340Road to Hell and Route 2
>>12863357Well, can't find the road to Hell at Route 2. Maybe it's at that door near Myouren.
what does this do?
Only the A.I. can survive like this without Sturdy.
>>12863374I've seen their puppets getting in that situation so many times, I'm calling shenanigans.
Is this move supposed to be Tailwind lasting 4 turns?
>>12863398Yes.
Is Hina's "Air Cushion" ability Levitate?
>>12863400Post a screenshot of it?
>>12863405I don't have her. I used an Earth move on a wild Hina, she took no damage and something popped up for a second. Looked at the google spread sheet and that said "air cushion".If yes, I'm gonna raise an Iku for no weaknesses.
I know the Road to Hell is somewhere in Route 2. But is there a secret entrance? I'm pretty sure I'm in the right spot. Broke some rocks to get to Route 2, but can't find the entrance?
>>12863370>>12856188 Here's your answer!
>>12863400Yes.
>>12863398Gen6 tailwind got buffed to 4 turns.
Thinking about catching a Suika. But I don't know when i get the giant Suika. What's the differences?
>>12863464Giant Suika is Power Suika. She has Slaking's ability. She does have the highest base stat total in the game to make up for it.
>>12863464I think giant is Power Suika when you do the style change, just like my Shinmyoumaru became tiny after the style change to Defense.
>>12863474how's tiny working out for you anyways?
Star is adorable in this
>>12863563It's good. I don't have the other form to compare, though. I put all PP in the 2 boosted stats FoAttack and FoDefense. She was the reason I won the fight against Remilia.She has a 90 power Steel move with 10% flinch chance, and a 70 power Earth move that always crits. I use those 2 to deal with pretty much everything. Too bad she didn't learn any other useful abilities. She has 2 self buffs (+2 FoDef, and +1FoAtk+1Accuracy), a steel 40 attack priority move,
>>12863581>a 70 power Earth move that always critschrist> a steel 40 attack priority movesure hope Yumeko gets this. That would justify power form I think.
>>12863580did anyone actually use one of the three fairies? Is their growth as ridiculous as chen's?
>>12863613I don't know about those fairies in particular, but I wanted to ditch my Daiyousei a long time ago, but it turns out that she's now level 72 (second best is 65) although I never use her,and she has the best type coverage on my team (water, nature, light, dream, void, dark (focus attack, but u-turn) )
>>12863625I have one warming the bench too, just because of that ridiculous growth rate.
What does fog do?
>>12863638Raises the power of Darkness Skills, lowers the power of Light Skills.
>>12858930Where do I download a good version of this game and how do I install it?
Is there a translation for this anywhere?I have no idea what's what
>>12863670HealthFocus AttackFocus DefenseSpread AttackSpread DefenseSpeedOKCancel
>>12863670http://tpdp.supersanctuary.net/manual/HP, Focused Attack, Focused Defense, Spread Attack, Spread Defense, Speed.Think of Focused/Spread as Physical/Special.
>>12863670
Holy shit, Power Remilia learns a Fire and Lighting type move with 75 base attack each, can anything stop her now?
>>12863677>>12863678>>12863679Thanks, out of curiousity, is that picture from the TL project?
>>12863682any steel attack ever
Is it possible to change style? I think I messed up.
>>12863693No, catch a new one
>>12863688Yes, if you actually land a hit on her , Remilia speed is huge and steel type will suffer to that fire attack, is there a definitive counter to her?
>>12863703Does she have spread fire moves?
Yuuka gets her cool music and i expected her to be the toughest enemy yet. Turns out Miko can just solo her entire team.
I just beat Medicine, Raymoo told me to chase her, but I don't know whereany tips?
>>12863708a Focus fire move, all of those attacks have 75 base attack
>>12863703Speed Konngara
>>12863685Yeah, the picture is from the translation project. On that note, the User Interface translation is more or less done - a lot quicker than we expected. We have quite a few things finished actually. We'd like to push the first release when Skills/Attacks are translated, for the ease of the player.
>>12863703Power Yumeko with her 40 base steel priority attack pretty much one shots her no matter what, especially with that 4x weakness.
>>12863713Go to the suzuran hill. Human village, left exit. Go down to where the fairies used to block you. >>12863715My Shinyoumaru doesn't care about your focus moves. Also just encountered speed Rika (steel/fire) who could probably deal with Remilia.
>>12863723>>12863725>>12863726Those look like checks instead of counter but I didn't know about that steel priority move, that should destroy her. Better watch out for those...
>>12863724Good shit!>>12863725so she does get it. Awesome, power it is then.
>>12863726thanksam i supposed to go to muenzuka first before heading down to suzuran hill?
I just got something from Chen, where should I go next? I also defeated Kanako
>>12863769You can fly now. Sukimap in the rightmost inventory register. Go to the first route/town. There are rocks to smash (2 of them)
So I went to Alice's house in the forest of magic. Where do I go now?
>>12863703There are actually quite a few steel types that are faster than her because steel is surprisingly often with speed formes.
>>12863779back to Rinnosuke, was it? Or Akyuu.>>12863753BTW, I have Ichirin who also has that steel priority move.
>>12863753Actually, I'm not so sure she actually gets it. I just recall countless times that Remi gets destroyed by faster steel types in the Elite Four though.
So you can basically beat the whole game with just Power-Aya (+Choice Belt for Pandemonium refights) and misc. to revive her.
>>12863783I did that. Alice said something about going to the SDM but Rinnosuke said something about Eientei.
>>12863792The guard at the south exit blocks your way to Eientei. Once you talk to Akyuu, the way opens. Go there.down up down left left right up right up up down up = finishdown up down left left right up left = empty house = item/mokou down up down left left right up right up down = trees = itemYou get Cut from Eientei.
>>12863779Go back to Rinnosuke and then back to the Human village to talk to the girl and then you go down from where the troll guy stopped you from going past him.
>>12863776I see, many thanks, also, is there a way to move Suika away or I cannot do that yet?
>>12863786Yeah, it felt like every second puppet had both a war or steel attack along with whatever element they actually were. Maybe it just felt that way since all of my most leveled monsters were either weak to war or steel.
>>12863835Where is Suika? I'm around level 65 and haven't seen her.
>>12863843She is sleeping in he route near the Hakurei(?) Shrine, where you start the game
I hate when this happens.
I've beat Yuuka, but now I'm list. Where do I go next?
>>12863872>listwell; I've got the autism .lost *
>>12863872To the border to the outside world. Or basically: Where you haven't been yet on the map.
So someone mind telling me where/when you get the "reincarnation" stuff from?
>>12863943Enter post-game and go to Patchouli; she'll have a small Patchouli doll set up with a bunch of stamps next to it which allow you to select the reincarnated doll's nature. For reincarnation, it uses up one magic fragment which drops mostly from random encounters. You can find colored magic stones that let you lock one IV during reincarnation at the Ice Cave in the middle of the lake south of SDM.
>>12863952The manual also says you can get them from web battles, and I quote "Through online battles, you can obtain "Magical Artifacts". You get six for being victorious, and three for losing or the battle resulting in a draw."
Anyone knows what this move does?
>>12863960
>>12863965Your type becomes the type of the topmost skill you have.
>>12863943>>12863952To add onto this, in the Ice Cavern south of SDM, you can find colored magic stones which let the puppet being reincarnated keep one of its stats. Alternatively, if you complete the Kasen sidequest, you get a Rainbow magic stone which functions exactly like the Destiny Knot from gen6 breeding (I recommend doing this before doing reincarnation at all to save time and headaches).
Seiga's team is pretty amazing.
Quick! Power Remi or Speed Remi?
I was happy with this catch in SDM. Now if I could only get characters I'm actually looking for with S IV's like this.
>>12864008Power Remi. She gets Sheer Force which pairs well with all the 75 power javelin skills which benefit from it.
Errr, so what's Speed Futo's ability here? This is Strategist right?
Which of the ghosts are better? Youmu, Yuyuko or Mima?
>>12864099technician
>>12864099Yeah.
I can't decide between Suika or Kasen, Suika has better stats overall but that drain punch Kasen is pretty good too, which one do you recommend overall?Also, Sanae is a good girl and a surprisingly fantastic puppet
>>12863178Lots of attacks being almost exactly the same but different types. Almost every type has a 80-90 power attacking move, 120ish power attack with iffy accuracy, etc. Samey stats all around. It's balanced and means no Touhous get left out, but also means few really stands out.Lack of cool ability synergies. Stuff like that.
>>12864117>>12864118Sorry, I mistyped that. I was wondering what the ability actually did. Haha, my fault.>>12864111I started with a Youmu, she's not a Phantom type anymore.
>>12864145But well, this. Perhaps mine or your version is outdated?
>>12864161He has the power style, you have the normal style
>>12864161She loses a type for power,.
How do I know if an attack uses the focus stat or the spread stat?
>>12864171Red is Focus, Blue is Spread
>>12864145>>12864099>>12863943(These were all me)Thanks for the help Anon's. It's a little late, but happy new year and I'm going to bed now.
>>12864136p-pls respond
>>12864192Suika appears a little later and is rare, choose her and use defense style. You can have all the 3 in your team.
>>12864174Thank you! I was having trouble figuring out where to put my EVs.
Will P Marisa ever learn a focus shot ability?
What does this location translate into? I can't make out that 5th kanji. I know it's Hakurei Shrine something Mountain, but I'm clueless here.
How do you transform Keine into her Hakutaku form.
>>12864358博麗神社裏山Mountain behind Hakurei Shrine
>>12864384>I couldn't recognize thatBack to my reps it is, thanks, anon!
>>12863703Youmu has a priority steel attack. So, I'd imagine her.
What is the original song of Sakuya's boss theme.
Is there a way to climb waterfalls in this game?
has anyone found a held item to help boost exp gained?
>>12863881Where? I just beat Yuuka and now I'm lost.
Welp that was fun while it lasted
I wanted to do a theme teamso I went for Devils/Vampires but now I realize there's not enough for that.Is Lily Black and Lily White different puppets or are they affected by status change?
>>12864471Yes, I have no idea where I found it though.
>>12863039omchicken?
>>12864739>>12864471I think you get that item from Kanako, battle her after you beat Sanae in Moriya Shrine
>>12864788Thanks, I was wondering what that item did.
I was wondering, how do I wake up that giant suika? Do I need a certain item or eventually she will go away as you progress the story?
>>12864891She goes away as you progress in the story.
did i just make horrible mistake? what is her ability, because it looks like slow start, reason why regigigas is so goddamn useless
>>12864942Yeah it's slow start.
>>12864942Yup, have fun.
What does Hina do to your touhoumons?
>>12864972Release them, I've found it out the hard way.RIP my starter ;_;7
>>12864959>>12864960sigh, time to catch another then
>>12864976you know you can change abilities right?
>>12865016Power Yukari has only one ability
>>12865016Many "evolutions" only have one ability.
I got one question here. When a puppet reach lvl 30 you can change their style, but do the normal puppet learn more attack after lvl 30????
>>12865031there are no benefits to staying in normal form, so it's best to change right away
I'd live in Yuuka's house
Effect?
>>12865047I see thx for the help.What does Sanae in power form passiv do???
>>12865069Inflicts confusion at a 10% rate. Forcibly ends Fog and Calm. >>12865073Good LuckThe added effects on skills are twice as likely to occur. (Serene Grace)
Does this thing have any good side effect?I though Remi would make a good mixed sweeper but she can't OHKO anything and just dies in one hit while there are other bulkier options with her same firepower. At least this goes for her power form.
>>12865111That blows away hazards and traps from the field while dealing damage.
>>12865115Thanks, I guess, she'll have a spinner job on something.
Woah, Nue has that ability that lets her look like other Touhous in battle. I was tricked.
What does Speed Shinki passiv do???
>>12865124Yeah, she does.But switched to the 1.3 accuracy multiplier when I got the 100 power 50 accuracy fire skill.And for some reason, that fire skill never misses for me. Hmmmm....
>>12865136Take less damage from Light attacks, and completely absorb Dark attacks to recover HP.
So I want to keep Kokoro in my team because I like her and I made her defense style because moody is fun. I still haven't used up any points for her yet, any tips where I should put them? I don't have experience with defensive stuff, with all my other dolls I just dumped everything in their relevant attack stat and speed.
I'm at end game, with no clue what any of these abilities do. Looking to form an ideal competitive team. Anyone got any ideas? I'm throwing Miko in there, but outside of that I'm not sure.
>>12865145When in doubt just dump everything into HP and Spread
The fight had to happen.
Can you find Reimu post game?
>>12865203You can find Reimu right behind the giant Suika.
>>12865207How about Marisa? I'm hoping no one is left out.
>>12865214West side of the forest of magic.https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ffd2TgJOvvDdikysNcnhCfIDLrwZwIH4Tbpy0PUIYMg/edit?pli=1
Speed Shinki seems good, I was close to picking her as a starter but then didn't. Is she hard to find? Because she's still not listed in the locations pastebin. I definitely want to get a good one.
>>12865215>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ffd2TgJOvvDdikysNcnhCfIDLrwZwIH4Tbpy0PUIYMg/edit?pli=1Oh. When I meant find, I meant their NPC counterparts. The actual Reimu and Marisa.
>>12865226Reimu is basically a rival, Marisa helps you out in the beginning and you find her various times.
>>12865232Maybe I should of been more clear. Similar to how you can find people after you battle them. I'm wondering where Marisa and Reimu went after you battle them from the last time.
This random trainer is surprisingly tough. No one else had 6 Touhous before.
>>12863200What did the fairies do to Reimu in the end? When I came back later she was still surrounded by 4 fairies.
>>12865258It's probably a bug
This trainer somehow saw me and walked up to me to fight.PERSPECTIVE
>>12865271I wonder if she can walk up slopes, or if the game gets soft locked because the trainer can't reach you.
>>12865271This fucking cave is going to kill me soon. It's literally 1 encounter/s.
>>12865276I don't think she can see you past that spot right at the edge. Also kinda funny is the fact that you can't actually talk to the trainer if you try it after the fight. The slope works for that somehow.
Okay, since im still downloading the game, mind if i know who are the starter choices?
>>12865281Is the one you have to go through to reach hell?It's pretty long, probably the longest cave.
>>12865288Literally everyone.
>>12865288Everyone is literally available. >>12865281Buy super repels from Kappa. Trust me, it's worth the 10 minutes. Or don't, since you need the levels.
>>12865288any 2hu you want. your starter will come with near maxed IVs as well
>>12865288ur fav 2hu
Wow, thats very nice...Aaaaaaa, this gives me a dilemma on who to pick as my first waifuWHY ONLY ONE!?...Guess I need to flip a coin, or catch them all
>>12865338>first>waifuI hope you're not one of those.
This is the second time a trainer switched out her puppetNevermind, make it the fourth time, since I've traced Sound Absorb and Satori is weak to sound I'm panicking the AI.
>>12865338>first waifuHoly fucking shit.
>>12865338Everything about this post tells me you should leave.
I'm working on making my team right now, having a lot of fun with this game.I was just wondering if anyone has used Hina? I chose her as my starter, and I'm wondering as to which form would be best for her. Since her IVs are all evenly distributed I could really go for either, but I'm more concerned as to which one would be the better choice.
>>12865341>>12865391>>12865399Wow...sorry, I think I got overexcited thereWas there something I am unaware of? If so, sorry
>>12865401I'm not using her, but I'd rather use assist if I had to. Gotta go fast.
I don't know what Karmic Retribution does, but Hina looks pretty weak.
1.03 is out, and it has a huge changelog.
T-Thanks 1.03Good thing I saw through that and made a backup
>>12865457
Anyone knows about what is in the 1.03 changelog?Also, somehow I prefer the typing that was in the romhacks, here it just seems like random types not making much sense and basically copied from original pokemon but with altered names and less complex.Like, for example, the Wind type. In the romhack there were Wind and Fly types, and it made some sense, but since they merged it, does it really make any sense for Chen/Kagerou/Futo to be immune to Earth moves?Isn't it a type you would give to the birds?Am I really the only one thinking that?
>>12865494When are you getting this screen? On start-up? The patch runs fine on me, just had to do a fresh install again and transfer my save.>>12865410I was thinking that would be a good idea especially if I wanted her to take an attacking role, but what I really want to know is if there's any disparity between the moves she can learn between forms and base it off of that.
What do Tenshi's two abilities do? She's level 87 and I still have no clue.Indomitable Flawless
Speed or Power for Sakuya?
>>12865573Indomitable: Can neither deal nor receive critical hits.Flawless: When inflicted with a status effect all stat changing moves are avoided.
>>12865576Suppression Calm DispositionKleptomania CollectorThanks. Do you happen to know these too?
>>12865587Collector: Held items can't be stolen.Kleptomania: Steals held item from opponent.Suppression: I don't know about that one, I'll catch someone with it and check.Calm Disposition: Moves cannot be sealed.
>>12865587>>12865594suppression is cursed body, 30% chance to disable the last move you were hit by
Managed to get my first flawless.
Are these revives?Gotta need some for the league.
>>12865624Yeah, pretty sure they are.
>>12865609Do you need to use up an item for Nimble/Unburden to activate?
>>12865693If it's like in pokémon, yeah
>>12865693It seems to work just like Unburden.
Just beated the champion.Ahaha, I should've expected it knowing HemoSatori and Wakawaka played an important role through the whole league.
>>12865773Congrats! How good is Wakasagihime? I've not actually used her.
It is possible to get on all stats S rank through rebirth???
>>12865822Yes
>>12865810Everytime I used her she helped me a lot.With many important puppets being weak to sound type she teared through the game and once she got hydro cannon she oneshotted every "signature" puppet owned by the NPCs.
>>12865834Where do I rebirth anyway?I want to play the alchemy simulator.
>>12865839Go to where Patchouli is in the scarlet devil mansion.do the kasen sidequest first
>>12865846Thanks
Hmm I got a problem here I tried to update the game. I got a copy of the 1.00 Version here and updated it with the 1.03 updater.But the Version which comes out there is the 1.01 Version after the patch is completed.
Anyone found any good level grinding spots for the post-game?
>>12865992After doing everything, I just cheated to get rare candies to level up monsters to see what skills they got.
>>12865991Are you sure? It should update from .00 to .01, then .02 and finally .03, maybe try running again?>>12866002C-Cheat? How did you do that, anon?
>>12866006Cheatengine to search for 16777216 times rare candy number.
What does it do?
Need help with this skill.
>>12866103I can't read Japanese but I'm guessing it's Fissure.
>>12866103That's Fissure (OHKO opponent regardless of HP)>>12866063First one is Anger Point (Getting crit maxes your FoAtk), second one is Mold Breaker (Ignores abilities of the enemy when attacking).
What does this item do?
That's one ice puzzle.Is there anything worth in there?
OK this is getting stupid. The game should display my enemy's typing, so I don't have to look it up in the type/stats chart for every puppet and their defense/speed/etc. forms.It's not even like their typings are in any way intuitive once they change style.
So for post-game, we have:-Ice Cave in Misty Lake-New Area in Youkai Mountain, where that endless fog was-Reincarnation-Online Battles-New Fly Location (Yakumo's House?)Anything else?
Dammit, that Chen + Ran combo is bananas.
>>12866204Yes, items for reincarnation. They preserve 1IV from the original touhou.
Y-You too, game
Power or assist Raiko? Also recommend me a final member.
>>12866326Two geniuses are better than one
>>12866329Either are fine.I'd pickup a puppet with a weather ability so Mary uses her ability.
>>12866329AssistFuto
>>12866250Various post-game battles against:ReimuMarisaSakuyaAliceSanaeSuwakoYuugiUtshuoMedicineYuukaChenRanYukariCirnoLettyShouSeigaShinmyoumaru (two battles)And some others I might've missed. There's also the Elite Four round 2.
>>12866349Are they rematchable, like daily?It seems like a waste seeing their updated team and only battle them once.
All these items but the super repels are useless right?I'm afraid I might sell something I can't get twice and it's useful for battles.
>>12866385I always keep 1 of each item just in case, but I assume those are useless
>>12866385anything with 売れる/売る/"売" in it should be sold. You're holding onto a fuckton of money right now. That said, the item you're highlighting should be held onto as it's important later.
>>12866400And I just sold it and saved.I'm already at postgame anyway, where can I farm them?Anyway a demon in Makai sells a bunch of TMs if anyone is looking for them.
>>12866410What is the effect of those Xth Sign [Element] TMs?
>>12866437picture here: What's the second sentence? All but Illusion have that.
>>12866437They're probably all ancient powers in several flavours.Also apparently every puppet can learn any of those TMs, so I guess they're also like HP
Which Touhous are really rare in the wild? I'd rather take something rare for my starter so I don't have to look for them later.
>>12866474You'd rather get a puppet you like but you only get late game because no puppet is that rare to find in its area.Except for Nazrin for some reason.
>>12866437They're pretty much Hidden Power without having to deal with the IV bullshit to get the correct typing.
>>12866498Cool. Are there focus versions as well?
>>12866513Not that I know of. They're only spread based just like how Hidden Power in Pokemon is special attack based. They definitely need more steel type TMs besides Gyro Ball though.
>>12866354It looks like you can rematch some of them by beating the E4 again. I wasn't able to refight Chen/Ran/Yukari again, and Seiga was an event battle so
>>12866611Still better than XY and ORAS.Fuck Gamefreak.
so what do i do after i beat Kanako?
So I got 3 of Kasen's items, but I already did all 4 events that give me items. Got the item from Hakurei Shrine, got an item from one of the frogs, beated Suwako and beated Seiga. What happen?
>>12866641Suwako doesn't give you a Kasen item; she gives you a super advanced version of the lucky egg. The item you're missing is in front of the big purple tree in Muenzuka.
>>12866644Oh fug, there was a misleading post somewhere in the thread then, thanks!
I wish netplay had random battles.
>>12866641Where is Suwako?
how do you use the globe kanako gives you? there's no option to use it
>>12866720Lake Suwa
>>12866721Go to a small rock and press Z.
>>12866736OHHH it's a glove! fuck you japanese
>>12866731Thanks.
Whoever designed power Aya deserves to suffer.
Would starting with Shinki make things too easy?
Do all puppets have one clear best style?From what I've seen they did a terrible job of balancing them.
>>12866820Power Aya is like Cinccino with even more attack and speed; that shit is ridiculous. If there's a King's Rock item in this game, she's beyond broken.
>>12866914I think there is one, Satori can't attack Reimu's Aya most of the time after being hit, now I don't know if that is caused by Aya holding bright powder or Reimu is actually sadist enough to give her a King's rock.
>>12866914>If there's a King's Rock item in this game, she's beyond broken.Trust me, it's here.One of the E4 members uses King's Rock Skill Link Speed Yumeko
>>12866889nevermind this
So, is breeding easier?I don't understand anything since the items that keep IVs etc are not translated, I think I'll just wait.
what do after i got the map from Chen?i'm stuck :<
>>12867061Smash a rock near the rest stop on Route 1 and you can go north to Former Hell.
I haven't started yet, but I was looking at the abilities list and wondering what Letty's do:Desperate Defense/Blessing of Water for Power, and Short-Term Resolve for Defense.
Wonder if theres already a translation effort
Are 2 50 power hits weaker than 1 100 power after damage mitigation?
>>1286718150 x2 should be slightly stronger due to how damage calculations work.>>12867165Most of the translation effort is happening on the THPP forum and the Shoddy Battle server.http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php
>>12867196What happened when you stayed in the empty room in Chireiden and Koishi was actually there all along
>>12867234Not that guy, but from what I remember, she doesn't do much more than wonder who you are and saying, "whatever, good night". And then you sleep (together?).
>>12867234I am but the bringer of information. I don't know a lick of Japanese.>>12867247Thank you very much.
Does anyone know Tenshi's kit? As my starter, she has the majority of her moves with no power but I have no clue what they are.
>>12867247Thanks, they really did a great job making Gensokyo come alive with this game, the music and design alone are quite captivating.
>>12867271DTenshi trainer here. Her best offensive (late game) moves are "Earthquake" and "Play Rough" equivalents. I don't have all the skill cards yet so I can't really enlighten you on her compatability with them, but I do know she has access to SC01 (75bp fire focus) for donking natures. I'm not sure what most of her statuses do either.
>>12867284Yeah, I'm surprised by how close they stay to the canon. Like, near Youkai Mountain (east), I found that Warning Sign Kasen placed during WaHH warning of poison gas.And that empty house near Muenzuka, is that Nazrin's?Generally, the locations and their relative positioning on the map makes sense. Except maybe that tree in Muenzuka that may or may not be Saigyou Ayakashi (it really shouldn't be). You never go into the Netherworld, do you?
>>12867304The puppet location make sense too.Like around Kasen's house, you can find Reimu and Komachi.
>>12867304Go read the wiki article on Muenzuka and check what's written near the very top.
Is Yumeko's ability really Moxie? If so, which oneOverwhelm Moral BoosterSalvo Strategist
>>12867337Morale Booster
I ran out of all 10 seals that Sanae gave me at the start and I'm not sure which one they are at the store.
Defense Eikis seem to do nothing besides kill themselves. They are like the Electrodes of this game.
>>12867365everything that ends with の糸
>>12867365I'm following this list to find all the TMs:http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=356.0I am looking for TM 26: South-west of the Human Village, past the two fairies.Anyone know where I could find that? Which 2 fairies? There are 2 fairies on the bridge next to Sekibanki, and there are the 2 fairies who blocked your way to the south.Also, looking for it, I accidentally found TM 37, which is missing from their list. It's on the way to Rinnosuke, south of the old man, surf where the bridge is south, then left to an empty house.
>>12867377They have the other TMs listed on the later posts.
>>12867371So much for being the law
Where exactly do you find Rikako in the Forest of Magic?
Random fact: Quitting the game cancels repels. You have to use a new one if you save and quit while it's still in effect.
You have to enter the forest from the north with surf to get to Rikako and the other puppets.
>>12866641How do I get the items from the frog, Seiga and Hakurei Shrine? I can't find Seiga, and I'm not sure what to do regarding the frogs. I might of got the item from the Hakurei Shrine but I"m not sure.
>>12867433Talk to the frogs, one of them gives you an itemHakurei Shrine one just check the well behind the shrineSeiga is in the Tao cave
>>12867427Random fact, entering locations, rather then healing yourself saves your respawn location.
Is this move getting weaker when your HP are low, like Eruption?
>>12867454Yes, it's Eruption.
>>12867446Thanks. Which item is the one Kasen gave me? It's a destiny knot, but I'm not sure what it's named.
That cave behind Reimu's shrine is so long. It just keeps going.
>>12867483If you know the way, and have repels. It takes less then a minute. The majority of the cave is dead ends that lead to items.
you have to love Reisen II's Technician ability
Is it worth boosting Yuyuko's speed stat? I have a feeling it's not...
Can someone make a new thread with the pastebin and etc?
>>12867523https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rkQauSHiC_6k7VC9CHsx0wxQfOtdqqQHmqxIkoTX-Ys/pubhtmlI'd rather go full bulk with Yuyuko as you can see by her base stats.>>12867304I love this map, the first thing I wanted to do was nitpicking about canon locations but as you said they're surprisingly accurate, good job Hemo.
Looking for a good way to grind all 6 of my level 1's. All of them have perfect IVs, but getting them to 100 will being painful.
>>12867541>AllAnd there is part where you fucked upYou should have left one on high level to allow you for grinding top level puppets
>>12867545Well obviously I still have my base team. Grinding away at Kasen's with a Level 100 Aya.
>>12867534Image uploading is currently down. I'll try again every few minutes until it's back up.
>>12866647A friendly anon said I did a mistake there just a post under it! I was a bit sleepy on that post I'm sorry.
Is Shinki super rare or does she only spawn in specific areas? I found her maid often enough.
>>12867770Shinki is only in the Makai city and rare, only met her twice while catching everyone there
What can be found in the dark grass of Route 5? So far I've only encountered Rinnosukes, Tokikos and Oranges.
Power Alice is a fucking tank. An Alice 1 level below me survived a 100 power fire attack from Power Miko. That's super effective against her and STAB for Miko.
>>12867819Maybe she has an ability that works like filter? Or was your Miko nerfed by her own ability?
>>12867830It was a hit on the first turn when both Touhous were at full health and Power Alice has no ability to take less damage. It's in the league so they probably have max EV in everything somehow.
>>12867833I said this before: Both me and others have felt that the game's boss battles are getting more and more difficult while your power stays identical after a while - probably due to artificial difficulty produced by giving the enemy's puppets bullshit stats.
>>12867835enemy puppets don't get bullshit stats. the game's difficulty spikes at mokou and brick walls at remilia, but remains around a steady power level afterwards up until the end/postgame.from what I can tell, enemies are just minmaxed to hell and back and carry a bunch of high power moves. there's no boss copies or boss forms with bloated stats, they just use smashy shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0_sviZSH2UHow do you farm those rebirth items? I barely have 20.
>>12867852You were probably selling them throughout the main course of the game. I had 255 by the time I unlocked reincarnation.Grinding wilds is the easiest way to obtain a large amount. The e4 rematch also gives them out sometimes.
>>12867858Thanks
>>12867858Magic fragments or something? I knew I wasn't supposed to sell them, in fact now I don't want to sell anything ever again.
>>12867880Why would you sell shit in game you can't understand in first place?That's like selling materials in Kamidori
>>12867884But everyone said items in that section were useless and selling them is the only way to make money!
Hoping to get some netplay here. I already 6 IV'd my entire team and I'm grinding fro the perfect move sets. Anyone else down?
>>12867884Because that's the only way to make money.>>12867880Magic fragments and repels are the only things in the red tab that you shouldn't sell. Everything else is fair game, and should be sold.
>>12867887My team is garbage and I can't host but I'll play.
>>12867852for reference, the JP name is 魔力の欠片 so don't sell those unless you need a quick boost for repels or some shit.from what i've heard you can farm them off network battles as well.
>>12867895>魔力の欠For the record. Just use Hamachi or your own IP if you can host. Open two copies of the game, and just connect to yourself. Forfeit in one game and then use a move on the other. The winning game gets 6, and the losing game gets 3. But since it's both your game, you somehow get 9. Repeat.
Are Iku, Mokou, or Yuuka any good/rare? Downloading it now and thinking of the starter
>>12867906You get Mokou in the early/mid game. Yuuka in the late game. And I'm not 100% sure when you get Iku.Yuuka is basically a snorlax, low speed. High stats.Mokou is pretty good, bulky attacker.
>>12867915You should be able to get Iku before Yuuka.
So, if you forget a skill with 0 PP, the skill under it will have its PP set to 0 as well.
What is the typing of that spread move league Shinki has that one-shots all my pokemon? (looks like 4 small white lasers).I barely beat her by reviving Ichirin 3 times and using the super effective priority steel move 4 times in a row (that only took ~1/5 of her health each time).
>>12867887I'll play. My team is only 5 IV though, and my japanese knowledge is minimal so I'm probably choosing less optimal skills.
Am at the post game. What order do I do things now? I am in the Kasen loop area not able to find her house.
Anyone know the directions out of the Bamboo Forest? It's confusing as all fuck.
>>12868032>>12863802The pastebin guy should include them for future reference.
Do you not get anything from fighting the characters again in the postgame? I fought Reimu and Yuuka and beating them didn't really do anything.
So do you get anything for catching them all?
>>12868150Other than having them all, there either isn't a reward or no one's discovered it yet.
Anyone know if there's a way to get more than 1 Food Rations?
>>12868270The Black Sludge equivalent is somewhere deep in the Forest of Magic, past Marisa's house.
1.04 update patch is upand i still don't fricken know how to patch it
>>12868300Thanks.
My good friend has been having a problem running the game, she says the visuals never appear but she can hear the music and button sounds. Any ideas on fixing this?
Not sure if anyone's mentioned this yet. But the Lost Bamboo Forest has an actual puzzle, it's not just about wandering around until you randomly get it.The Tewi near the entrance gives you a hint: the number of bamboo shoots is a hint. Solution:The number of bamboo shoots (those cone things on the ground) in the area tells you where to go next. It coincides with the hands of a clock. 3 = right, 6 = down, 9 = left, 12 = up.
青龍's translated effect on the manual is a bit unclear. Does it neutralize STAB?
For some reason I can't seem to get the game to run anymore. I was able to play just fine last night but now whenever I get to the game start screen, it automatically resets and goes back to the initial load screen and the intro sequence.pls help
>>12868385It's the same puzzle as the Lost Cave in FRLG.
Is there any list of moves learned yet? I don't want to waste PP on stats that won't get used.
>>12868456You can't waste PP on stats that won't get used. There's a 64 cap to each stat and a 130 cap in total.
>>128683571.05 out now
>>12868476already?they just released 1.04 earlier
>>12868484Yep. Only one item in the change log for 1.05
>>12868484Something must have broken, this is the only change from .04 to .05:人形箱で手持ちの空きに人形を移動できない不具合を修正
>>12868492something about a puppet?i see the kanji for "ningyou" 2 times
>>12868492Something about being unable to move the puppet's hold item while they are in the box has been fixed.Or at least that's what I got from it.
someone please explain me what i'm doing wronghttp://i.imgur.com/NIHGECt.png
>>12868540using imgur when you can upload the picture to the thread for one
>>12868561didn't work for some reason, so i just linked it
>>12868568.png are broken for now.Thanks, moot.
>>12868568>>12868540Open windows explorer and type %appdata% into the address bar.Create a folder and name it FocasLens, and create another folder inside named 幻想人形演舞.Create a text file in 幻想人形演舞 and name it gn_enbu.ini.Edit the new ini file and add[InstallSettings]InstallPath=(File path of your TPDP folder)Run patcher.
>>12868540Did you change the folder name? If you do it, you need to alter the .ini file in AppData that tells the system where the game is. Either changing that ini file or renaming the folder back to the original name would fix it.
>>12868588Still not working
>>12868790This is a blind guess, but try moving the game files into C:\game\FocasLens\幻想人形演舞 and having that path inside the ini file. (Keep the ini file inside the Roaming\FocasLens\幻想人形演舞 folder).
Did someone extract the music yet?
Alright, defeated the champion, and went though Yukari's house and the icy cave, How do I progress with the post-game at this point?
What is this guy selling? Must be the best stuff ever for that price.
>>12868885He has useful competitive items like Choice Band/Specs/Scarf, Life Orb, Focus Sash, Assault Vest and the like.
not sure if this is progress or i just skipped all the steps it stopped here errrr what do?
>>12868908You skipped all the steps, congratulations.
>>12868915why doesn't it let me update it...
i SOMEHOW solved the problem by using my 1.01 version instead of 1.00thanks for helping
I got one question. when can I catch Mai and Yuki through the game??
That Seiga fight
>>12869027i don't know where but i remember it being pretty late game
>>12869027https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ffd2TgJOvvDdikysNcnhCfIDLrwZwIH4Tbpy0PUIYMg/editSooner is when you get Surf, which is midgame, I'd say.
>>12869027You can get them in the ice cave in the middle of the misty lake, the rest of the cave is blocked off until post-game though
>>12869045>>12869048I see thx a lot for the info. I can not wait to get them.
When can you start reincarnating puppets?
>>12869144Once you beat the "elite 4".After that, go Patchouli. Right above her, you get a set of items needed to keep a puppet's nature. (sign?)Go to the ice cave in the middle of misty lake and collect the 5 stones that let you keep a specific IV on your pokemon.Go to Kasen's house (left of Youkai Mountain pokemon center), talk to her, get the 4 items for her:1. talk to the frogs south of her house (after talking to Kasen)2. After beating Shinmyoumaru at Hakurei Shrine, search the well behind the shrine.3. Cherry Tree at Muenzuka.4. Taoist Cave at the graveyard
Cirno pls
>>12869173What fight is this?
>>12869178Cirno
>>12869183Did she really have lvl99 puppets? Felt so easy.
>>12869188It felt easy because her puppets would die from huge recoil damage.
>>12869163Something that has been bugging me - how come there are 5 stones that let you keep a specific IV when there are 6 stats (HP, FoATK, FoDEF, SpATK, SpDEF and SPD)?
any Focus based Puppet with the equivalent of "Serene Grace" confirmed?
How do you get to the Yakumo house?
>>12869287Yeah, it was "luck something". It should be Sanae.
>>12869297Woops, focus based? I don't know.
>>12869293On your gap map, use L or R to shift through maps (A or D on keyboard iirc). You can get to Makai this way as well.
>>12869287Power Tewi.
Is Kotohime viable?
>>12869280Pretty sure there's 6 stones. Someone might've forgotten one in the maze.
>trying to catch an Alice with good spread>all E's
Really want to use Power Tewi now but she's Illusion, i already have Def Satori and my inner weeb doesn't want me to abandon my waifu
>>12869312You be the judge.In my opinion, she's gonna need a bangin movepool to backup these stats/abilities.
>>12869302Somehow, I did not notice that at all.
Power Ran is faster than Speed Yumemi. Why are you even speed type...
>>12869320>Karmic Retribution>A Puppet with this ability [something something something]
>>12869345For the typing.
>>12869348>209,Karmic Retribution,Counter 100+ Power Skills with a bullet curtain.Defense form would have a god damn blast with this if she has reliable recovery.
is there any english patch yet?
>>12869364Various bits and pieces of the game are translated but nowhere near enough to warrant a patch.http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?board=15.0
>>12869360>Counter 100+ Power Skills with a bullet curtain.I still have no idea what exactly that does. Damage your opponent, for how much? Take no damage at all from 100+ power skills?
>>12869368You can add them to your game files manually if you want, that's what I'm doing as they add more stuff.
>>12869376how would i do that?
What does Fire/Earth Futo's 50 accuracy fire attack do? I know it gets rid of terrain effects, but does it do anything else?
>>12869163Can't seem to find Kasen's house on the mountain, don't suppose someone can screencap it or something so I know what the hell I'm looking for?
>>12869398Did you find the foggy ares? From the center, go left, up the stairs, left left left past that Fox girl.
>>12869384you can get the data folders from the pinned thread, they're posting the translated files in all the threads so just go through every single thread and replace your game files as they post them.
Where's the Prismriver's mansion?
>>12869423East of koumakan, requires rock smash.
>>12869423Nevermind
Is the 2nd League round the ultimate challenge in the game or is there some other hidden stuff? I fought Letty but I doubt that she's the best the game has to offer.
>>12869364The game is about 36 hours long and came out not even a week ago.
>>12868885Where is this guy?
>>12869428the translation progress is actually really going well
>>12869434yeah like 90% of the interface is translated, along with all Abilities, items, and 2hu names. all that's left are attacks and story.
>>12869443well the puppet names were easy to translateeven if you somehow didn't know their name it was all in kana
>>12869403Yea, found the foggy parts, but got lost in them.
>>12869443Is there a txt file for the abilities?It could be useful for the pastebin so people don't keep asking "what does this do?"
>>12869456This has a bunch of translated stuffhttp://tpdp.supersanctuary.net/wiki/Main_Page
So does anyone here want to netplay in a bit?I'm on version 1.05, and I've got a mostly S rank IVs team, but I have no idea what items do so I just don't use them or equip them. Not sure how battles work, but from what I understand of pokemon, you're allowed to equip them but not use healing ones?
>>12869455Nvm, found it now.
>>12869501So, anyone know why patching the preinstalled game with the %appdata% method doesn't work?And where can I find the iso in case there is no solution?
>>12869528it does workit took me some time to figure it out but it worked
>>12869546>it took me some time to figure it out but it workedAnd what did you do that's not written in this thread?The installer just cannot find the folder.
>>12869554Are you sure you're not putting it in the appdata folder and actually getting there by using %appdata% command? It's appdata/roaming for me.Are you sure you're not putting parentheses around the command path?
i just used the exe. + dat 1 2 and 3 from the 1.01 MegaUpload DL from the first threadput exe and dat files in game/focaslens/TPDPand put ini and patch in appdata roamingworked that way
>>12869570Typing "%appdata%" leads to C:\Users\MYNAMEHERE\AppData\RoamingCreated folders: C:\Users\MYNAMEHERE\AppData\Roaming\FocasLens\幻想人形演舞In that folder: gn_enbu.iniContents: [InstallSettings]InstallPath=E:\Games\Touhou\Touhou Puppet Dance Performancethat folder is the game folder containing gn_enbu.exe and other files.I also tried changing the path to "C:\game\FocasLens\幻想人形演舞" and moving the folder there, renamding "Touhou Puppet Dance Performance" to "幻想人形演舞".
new thread?
>>12869604Why? It's still going to be a few hours before the thread dies.
>>12869528You people most likely have a better download speed than me, it'd be easier for you to just install the thing instead of trying to work around it.https://mega.co.nz/#!w4YgEAzb!Wepwlk3mS2wJqNDU9ncbzFTSW3kvNKSXpiGUBMsq3cABy the way, the pre-installed download was apparently installed at D:\Touhou Puppet Dance Performance, if unins000.dat says anything. Thank you Sawsore>>12869604Wait until the thread is dead. The catalog exists.
>>12869598Make sure your windows isn't hiding file extensions, the file you made might actually be gb_enbu.ini.txt instead of gb_enbu.iniHit "alt" in the windows file browser, then hit Tools -> Folder Options, then View tab and uncheck "Hide extensions for known file types", then rename the file to gb_enbu.ini again.
Where is this patcher you guys are talking about?
>lost in the forest of magicI just slept with Alice, where do I go now?
>>12869625http://www.fo-lens.net/gn_enbu/download.htmlIf you got the first download (without an installer), it might take some time before you can patch (just look at these people trying to get the ini file to work).
>>12869631You leave and go fuck Rinnosuke again.I wandered in that place for like an hour before I realized what I had to do.
>>12869643Do I need to make a OneDrive account for this?
>>12869650Alright, he gave me a new item. So now where?
>>12869689When in doubt, try talking to Akyuu.
>>12869700>suddenly I have a bikeOh, nice.
>>12869689he gave you a bike, use C to use ithead back to the human village, talk to Akyuu and go south walk past that troll 2 times cause he blocks you 1 more time
what is this
>>12869803Darkness Attack that hits 2-5 times.
I just defeated tenshi and hatate, then i jumped down to misty lake and now i have no idea what to do. help appreciated =)
>>12869884Congratulations, they're both optional.
What did the note in the Prismriver house say? And where's the misty lake cave?
>>12870053When I went there, there was no note. The plate shattered, then I fought the 3 sisters.Where's the note supposed to be?
>>12870053>What did the note in the Prismriver house say?It's a picture of 4 people I think.>And where's the misty lake cave?Middle of the lake.>Where's the note supposed to be?The piano room after beating 3 sisters.
>>12870060I'm here. Nothing ever happened when I went into this room. I don't see a note.
>>12870066Oh, I simply had to enter and leave the room multiple times.
>>12870074
Are there any Sword Dance / Dragon Dance or other stat buff moves equivalents?
>>12868038they're there
>>12870327A move that's only useful if the puppet has no-guard.
>>12870327A move that will always miss for you, but always hit for the bullshit AI
>>12870334>>12870346what about this
>>12870375If I was to guess, I would say giga drain.
>>12870375I really think someone should try compiling a list of moves and their descriptions already.
Help, I'm so fucking lost. I got Surf from Nitori, wandered in here, and now I've been going in circles forever.
>>12870375Atomic EnergyType LightPower: 75Type: FocusAccuracy: 100Uses: 10Priority: +0Half of the damage that you deal can be recovered to your HP.>>12870401I'd translate it but my Japanese is awful. I'm pretty sure the people at the TPP forums are working it, though.
The hell's happening here? Some of the names are in english (haven't messed with any of the files, just downloaded it recently) and the rest are just these weird block things
>>12870334I have it on Ichirin with no guard.>>12870415There are items everywhere.Marisa's house is to the left, past a river.Go even further left, past another river, and you get to Muenzuka.
>>12870415Oh, and this area is completely optional while you're at it.
>>12870468Read the pastebin FAQ.
>>12870489>change system settingsfuck i knew i forgot somethingthanks
>priority burntfw Kosuzu is the Sableye of touhou
>>12869411you're making new .arc files then?I'm not familiar with them
>>12870473>>12870481Oh okay, thanks. I kept finding new paths that lead to dead ends and the despair increased every time. I guess I'll just get the fuck out now.
>>12870611if you remove the .arc files the game will run off the data folders instead of the .arc files
>>12870618Oh I see, didnt think it was that simpleThanks
eh, too tired right now. I'll update the pastebin with ability info links etc and more common questions tomorrow.
what the hell does this attack do防御結界+防いだスキルの威力が100以上の場合相手に1/8ダメージ
>>12870855shouldve mentioned I'm trying to translate all the attacks since nobody else seems to be doing those and most of them are just copied from pokemon, but some of them make no sense from google translate, like that one.
>>12870856i'm doing the same right now
>>12870856>>12870867This is why google docs is a thing, anons
>>12870867hm could you upload to a google doc so we could do a collaborative effort to save time? I'd do it myself but I'm only like 5 attacks down so you're probably ahead.
>>12870855something with skill damage of 100 by lowered by 1/8
>>12870878well i only did the engrish skill names so far and 1 support skill that translated to "Stranded" which causes paralysis
So I visited Patchy and battled Meiing and Koakuma, what do I do for the story to progress?
>>12870878>>12870890Make a doc and I'll help as well
>>12870899find remilia, get r*ped a couple of times then beat her
>>12870885I got that part but it doesnt mean much.>>12870890I've actually been editing effect.csv so I've only been editing their effects.>>12870905I'm lazy, someone else do it and I'll contribute as best I can with 0 knowledge of japanese.
>>12870907and where is she? I tried going through the big door. To my knowledge, Sakuya is supposed to battle you right before Remilia but I can't trigger the event.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x_MPz3WFKOOFFwwSKxFle0AnSL4QAucz2wZjYj_YO0M/edit?usp=sharing>>12870929find a place in the basement with 3 doors next to each other middle, right, left is the solution
>>12870936that spreadsheet is on view only, bud.
>>12870936I suggest having 4 columns, 2 in nip and 2 in english so people may correct possible mistranslations, also >>12870982
ok editing is possible now, please don't be a troll and mess up things for no reason
>>12871034You're just asking for it if you say stuff like that. Make a duplicate.
Tried opening the game with AGTH and got that purple square. Is there any better text hooking option now? I haven't used that in something close to a year, I think.
>>12871052Make sure you set the "Start in" location.
>>12871082Oh. It works, but it looks like it's skipping every other character, so I can't see how it could be useful at all. I'll try googling how to make it work later, I recall there being a few options last I looked into this.
I'm going down the list and updating shit on the skill googledoc.He uses "increase" for 1 stage buffs and "big increase" for 2 stage buffs.I've been using "1 stage" and "2 stages," but should I be using "big increase" and "increase"?
>>12871151in the actual pokemon games they use "raise" and "sharply raise"
>>12871158>>12871151>use "raise" and "sharply raise"
>>12871158I don't want to feel like playing a friggin Pokemon clone, so you should abstain from directly copying translations!
After an hour I still can't find the entrance to the basement. Goddammit whyyyyyyyy.
>>12871246I posted a map earlier.
So on picking starters, is there any actual horrible choices? If you ever want to take stats and types into account
>>12871276The only horrible choices are the ones that are available in early game, such as Nazrin or Chen.
>>12871276just pick your waifu
>>12871276Mary and Renko will die to Marisa's Lv5 starter battle. There are some others like Medicine that also have a chance to lose that fight, but it doesn't really matter too much as weaker puppets level up much faster.
So about that new thread. Anyone?
>>12871286I lost with both Sariel and Hatate. After that, I ragequit.
>>12871276>>12871286Mary and Renko have the lowest stat totals of any other puppet.
>>12871290Why hurry, we're still on page 9.
>>12871298Where do I find this spreadsheet?
>>12871305Read the threadhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rkQauSHiC_6k7VC9CHsx0wxQfOtdqqQHmqxIkoTX-Ys/pubhtml
>>12871306Thanks, mang.
So for some reason, I tried saving my save file several times and I cant load to it somehow, what happened
Anyway, uh right, I cant seem to save at all, thats the main problem for me
>>12871336Nevermind, i had to manually create the .sav file and the save folder to fix it
相手から スキルを 受けていると その 相手に 対して スキルの 威力が 2倍に なる。the fuck does this do?I'd think it's Helping Hand but I don't think this game has double battles.
Where do I go after beating Remilia?
>>12871403West
>>12871403South west of Misty lake, time to scale Youkai Mountain
I finished moriya shrine and whatnot. i think im supposed to go to chireiden and find kisume? where is it?
To the other two anons that stayed with me until the end, cheers.
Pretty much finished translating all skillsThanks anons
>>12871587It's impressive seeing what a bunch of /jp/ NEETs can accomplish when we work together~
>>12871286Reminds me of that one Emerald hack that would often cause Wally to lose while trying to catch his first Pokemon. He would still capture it somehow which is extra strange.
>>12871469Backtrack a bit and break the rocks that were on the right of the roud that leads to the shrine.
>>12869426Is this post-game?
>>12871648No.
>>12871642so i did, and beat tenshi and hatate but where do i go from there? i've been looking for hours
>>12871677Fly to the first shop you meet in the game, behind it there's a rock you can break, go through the cave in that route. It's pretty long so I suggest you to get some repels due to the annoying cave encounter rate.
whats the name for the repel?
>>12871723Don't know, but look for items with 200 or 250 in the description. The name is short, like 2 kanji.
I'm not the same anon who did the first one. But I added it with what I thought were frequent game play questions. Wondering what you guys think.http://pastebin.com/sZGxyJkB
>>12870907>get raped a couple of times then beat herif you're getting beaten by remilia at all, you need to go back and raise a real 2hu
>>12871841The saddest thing is how she's the same type as Nazrin, so my autism doesn't let me use both in the same party.How am I supposed to choose which tiny
>>12871841>get raped a couple of times then beat her>if you're getting beaten by remilia at all, you need to go back and raise a real 2hufunny you say that. I trained a power shinmyoumaru and died in the fight against her.
>>12871839That's awesome.
>>12871858Defense is the way to go
I'm trying to use the translated skill list to make and document lists of all the puppets. But it's so out of order.It'd be really useful if it could be documented by type/power/etc.
>>12871870>>12871858Defense is king
Where do I find Iku?
>>12871888Genbu>>12871882before league Suikas, she was able to tank 4x effective Focus moves
Could someone explain the weathers and the tiger/dragon-thingy-system?