/jp/ - Otaku Culture

i think it's anime

>>>/a/

it's a short video not a full series so do i have to swith to the anime board?

>>12801449
/a/ is for anime of all lengths

I like the first 30 seconds, after that the twerking is way too vulgar for my taste.

best powerpoint presentation out there.

>>12801449
Yes. Fuck off.

>>12801456
I think the twerking was sexy. I want to see twerking touhous.

>>12801528
Different strokes for different folks.
I liked the big tits and clit piercings though, and the music wasn't so bad.

I like a few parts of the music track, I don't think it would have gotten the this much popularity without the 2deep4u and sexuality shit thrown all over it

>>12801435
Meh shit with generic message nobody would care about if it wasn't an anime short.

http://cloud.soykaf.org/webm/animatorexpo/MEMEME.webm

still waiting for full versions of the songs in it

It's retarded to want to deliver some kind of anti-escapism message (assuming it was ever intended) and at the same time give the same people you're trying to criticize a new thing to jerk off to.

Teddyloid is god.
Couldn't really give a shit about the video.

I like Teddyloid; he's good at electrohouse so the first half of the song was great.
I only like the video because it shits on otaku.

>>12802147
Welcome to satire city. Population: not you.

>>12801435
No sir, I don't like it

>>12802147

Are the full versions out already?

>>12802305
No, that's the whole thing. Which is a pity, because I am sure it would make for a great series if the director would expand on it. The two sides of Otaku, the anime.

It would be awesome.

>>12802147
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernormal_stimulus

Kind of the same satire style of vaporwave and denpa

>>12802334
I agree my fellow Führer.

>>12802334
But I'm not a druggy.
I just do my job and spend spend the time here on /jp/ and shit.
And even if I didn't work the "/jp/ themesong 2" would describe my life better than that hurr super dark shit.

I liked it, but I couldn't make out half the Japanese and it was too deep for me. So I was only able to enjoy it on an aesthetic level.

Fortunately that's the level I enjoy everything on.

>>12802369
I don't recall calling you a drug addict, anon.

>>12802388
The PV does.

>>12802369
Congratulations on being on the right side of the otaku, then.

>>12802396
The PV just implied you smoked.

A lot.

Nothing more, stop overeating and take a chill pill.

>>12802369
There's literally nothing bad about psychedelics

>>12802334
>>12802359
>>12802388
>>12802396
>>12802413
Why are you using this situation to post your idol? Go back to /pol/.

I think that it's fucking ridiculous yet unsurprising that there are continuous generals for a fucking MUSIC VIDEO. The threads (and the fact that they exist) are the most cringeworthy shit ever. You'd think that any 4chan user would have seen hentai or at least hardcore 3D porn by now, and yet here they are going fucking crazy over 2D girls in microbikinis twerking. There's thousands of H animations more explicit than that, but they don't seem to care since it's not in MTV music video form.

Some people will claim that they love the music. Well, what the fuck, have you never heard Teddyloid before? PSG aired in just 2010 and you haven't heard his music? And even if you haven't, it's just derivative, by the numbers EDM bullshit that you can find on Beatport or YOUR LOCAL RADIO STATION. It's actually strictly inferior to any established EDM artists, but that's just comparing apples to shittier apples.

But most people will refer to the fact that it's so CRAZY and WACKY. How fucking new can you be? How can you even have this attitude towards Japanese things, on 4chan, when it's nearly 2015? Is the craziest thing you ever saw American Idol or Hell's Kitchen or something? It's just fucking animated nudity plus random provocative shit. Oh wow, she's vomiting in his mouth, sooo shocking. Wow, they're exploding into green goo. Wow, he died. These things should not even make a 4chan user bat an eye, but here these fags are, going crazy over the anime equivalent of a Lady Gaga music video, complete with easily digestible electronic pop music.

And finally, let's give an honorable mention to the minority of people who like it because it has some tangential relation to Anno, and therefore they must dissect it and explore it's deep anti-otaku themes. That's just fucking gay, please kill yourselves.

>>12802426
I'm not even arian, or neo-nazi, or white, but I find Hitler quite charming, and find it hard to refute his reasons for wanting to get rid of the Jews.

As for the reason, I liked it, but I kind of read too much into it. Perhaps it is just random nonsense as some people especulate?

>>12802459
He's got fuck all to do with /jp/. Please stop.

I liked it. I wish I had lewd mindbreak dreams.
Also, post your fav Teddyloid songs.

>>12802413
I thought that puke thing the girl makes you swallow that makes you happy for a while while entering a trippy world that only turns into hell were drugs.

>>12802449
Then what is a valid reason for liking the video according to the Holy Conclave of Anon?

>>12802469
I just like posting images in my responses. You are too sensitive, and should not be offended because of me posting silly images.

I still think he was kind of awesome.

>>12802469
Remember that Hitler loves Rumia tripfag?

I never figured that shit out.

>>12802488
Dude, that was a mouthful of cum.

The video is pretty deep.

>>12802530
Looked more like a mouth full of opium to me.

>>12802534
Nah, it was definitely cum.

>>12802449
My reply for you.

I don't even see how it's anti-otaku, that guy was having a ballin' time. I'd love it if a sexy, crazy, inhuman girl something jumped out of my screen and gave me mouth to mouth.

>>12802539
Still looks like opium to me.

>>12802549
Have you ever even had opium?

You don't know what you're talking about.

>>12802549
It's drug-infused girl semen
Very addictive

The video is definitely about a DMT trip gone terribly wrong.

>>12802562
No, I don't do drugs. But the chines love opium, so I'm going with opium.

Is this a music video?

>>12802586
it's a meme

>>12802592
it's 150% of a meme

>>12802586
Yeah
>>12801606

>>12801456
>>12801540

It isn't twerking you fucking retards. You american piggu brought this shit upon the rest of the world. Please don't use it to describe every ass ever from now on. Thanks.

>>12802652
whats that? i cant hear you because of all this freedom ringing

>>12802449
>>12802652
What's up with all those angry fucks on /jp/?
Take your pills for Christ's sake

I don't understand.

Is this video aiming to criticize the hikki lifestyle, or is it trying to poke fun at people who criticize the hikki lifestyle?

I really can't tell anymore.

>>12802674
Its a video bashing the /jp/ lifestyle, of course theres going to be madposters

>>12802676
Stop looking at it like its some deep mystery trying to define your early-mid-life crisis.

Just fucking enjoy it, or hate it, whatever.

>>12802689
How am I supposed to enjoy/hate it if I don't even understand it?

I just want to know if it's supposed to be a work of criticism or a work of satire of a criticism.

The visuals are certainly nice, but I can't like/hate it until I know what it's trying to say.

>>12802686

they ain't living the /jp/ lifestyle if they're getting all mad and shit

>>12802693
Maybe theres no criticism at all, maybe its just a music video.

>>12802694
/jp/ is divided into two halves, the half that takes it easy and the half that is buttfrustrated autism about everything.

>>12802697
It's possible that the creators didn't intend any sort of message, but the way it's laid out suggests to me that they are, in fact, trying to convey something.

It would be a shocking coincidence if they just happened to stitch those characters and scenes together the way they did and didn't really have a message in mind.

>>12802698
which one am I

>>12802693
It's a simple message, spergmeister.

Take a seat, I'm 31 years old and I'm about to school your n00b ass.

The guy once had a girlfriend and was a complete normal sonuvabitch, until one day where he started to get addicted into computer games, visual novels, anime and mango.
This eventually caused a rupture in his normalfag relationship and he lost his grill.
Now he just withers away, wasting every single day of his life completely immersed in anime shit.
This has become a spiral of self-hatred and depression as well as a scape-hole to forget what the life he threw away. And though he sometimes remembers what was and tries to fight his current condition, his depression is too much and he just ends up being conformed by taking it easy again today, tomorrow and every day after.
The video basically tells this story and his struggle. It's pretty deep, yo. Shits off da hook.

I think this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84fOsLdqDAM describes the otaku routine in a more detailed way than that video, but since it's not a "woah what the fug Japan does it again!" video nobody really cared when it came out.

It's like Tomoko all over the place, where weebs would impersonate into that forced caricature.

>>12802710
Whoa, this is some old shieeeeet right here, negro.

>>12802708
wow so it's more otaku pandering shite

>>12802708
Holy crap go back to /a/ with your existential crisis.

>>12802718
Everything in anime and manga is otaku pandering.

>>12802708
Thanks for the plot summary, but I was able to understand that much myself by watching the video.

What I don't get, however, is the point of showing this guy's life.

Are the creators being serious and actually criticizing this guy's life, or are they making fun of people who criticize any lifestyle that isn't their own, and instead going for a "live-and-let-live" kind of message?

>>12802733
not the stuff I watch/read
it's all deep and unique you wouldn't know what it is though

>>12802734
He's basically trying to be an edgy Anno, who really sees himself as a normie caught up in the downward spiral of otakudom, and if it weren't for otakudom, he could be living the life.

>>12802734

Knowing gainax OF COURSE it is critical of otakus. Gainax wants you to fuck slutty angels and be a perverted normie.

>>12802715
2012 isn't old at all dude.

>>12802718
Pretty much.
>>12802731
Whoa dude, stop the projecting there. I have a job.
>>12802734
Yeah, pretty much. Society these days lashes out towards useless NEET's and criticizes them for their lifestyle and choices in life. That's how the world works, baby.
>>12802736
Whoa..
Is it Planetarian?

>>12802747
Man, what have I been doing with my life?

>>12802750
Living the dream

>>12802747
it feels old

>>12802754
That /jp/ dream...

>>12802748

masturbation isn't a vocation, dude

Please tell me some stories from old /jp/.

>>12802924

back in the day /jp/ was called /a/ and it was filled with glorious touhou and there wasn't a single general.

you could even post promotions on occasion without having to reset your router.

better times.

>>12802924
There wasn't a janitor.

>>12802924
It was full of weeaboo and normie tripfags.
It was basically like in that screencap where moot calls /jp/ "the new /b/".

2010~2012 was the best period for /jp/ in my opinion.

>>12802931
You seem new because there certainly were.
Gods before the captcha and new topic time cap existed that erased dozens of pages of /b/ and /a/ filth from /jp/. Dying out one after the other the last two fought a losing struggle against anon radio, hot glue, the whines of the shitposters posting racist and offensive materials as their threads are removed without remorse.

Eventually all of them were promoted because mods didn't like dealing with the complaints. They hired new ones and after weeding through hundreds they now have a small and simple group watching over /jp/ only watching for racists and non-/jp/ material.

The kids have it easy nowadays.

>it's about a guy who gave up on his cute girlfriend to..
How is that related to us?

No, how is that even related to otakus in the first place?

>>12802933
I can't remember what happened in what year
I just remember things being fun at one point, and then less fun later

>>12802981
He didn't gave up, stupid.

He just threw his life away, like we all did.

>>12803014
Did you have a girlfriend?

>>12802981
There never was any girlfriend. She is his waifu. And he cannot escape her.

>>12803014
>He just threw his life away, like we all did.

Great that you had a life to begin with.
How was it?

>>12803018
I had a life once, and it was awful.

>>12802924
There was less moderation, but we also had fewer insufferable attention-whoring retards, so we didn't need as much.

>>12803017
There were two girls, idiot.
I suppose I'll let you off this time, but only because it's hard to tell the difference when the real girl is 2D.

>>12803017
In all seriousness though, I do not think the guy had a girlfriend. He wants to let go of his obsession, but he cannot quit, and is stuck in a vicious cycle.

>>12803016
Why are you so obsessed about that part? A girlfriend is just the easiest way to tell a story about someone giving up interpersonal relationships in a 5 minute video.

>>12802733
Wrong, although it has increased a lot lately.

>>12802748
>Yeah, pretty much. Society these days lashes out towards useless NEET's and criticizes them for their lifestyle and choices in life. That's how the world works, baby.
I don't say society is right completely, but they're definitely right in that obsessing with fiction that much is unhealthy, and we all know that by experience.

>>12803056
>A girlfriend is just the easiest way to tell a story about someone giving up interpersonal relationships in a 5 minute video.
Precisely my point. How is that related to otakus? Or at least, the majority of them.

>>12803056
>obsessing with fiction that much is unhealthy
I disagree. Fiction actually makes life better or more bearable for most people again. Without it you'd probably have triple if not more suicides.

>>12803016
Yeah, I did.

And I fucked everything but by not being a reliable person.

>>12803074
>Precisely my point. How is that related to otakus? Or at least, the majority of them.
It's a fictionalized representation of emotional intimacy of a real girl. I'd wager most otaku had some girl they liked they in high school.

>I disagree. Fiction actually makes life better or more bearable for most people again. Without it you'd probably have triple if not more suicides.
The line most of society takes that indulging in fiction is fine, but the substitution of fiction for real life is unhealthy. It's probably true, just most of us don't (or pretend not to) care.

>>12803090
with a*

>>12803017
>>12803041
>>12803041
This show isn't bad. I'm watching that episode now.

>>12802708
i can't take it easy with you memeing all over the place. pls back to /a/.

>>12803101
There's no memes there.

Just your ass getting schooled like there's no tomorrow, dorko.

>>12803074
>Fiction actually makes life better or more bearable for most people again
That's escapism and doesn't solve your problems. I do it all the time; it's pleasant, sure, but I know that I harm my family and my mental sanity in the process. The video got so much discussion because it challenges escapism itself, not because he had a girlfriend.

>>12803090
>It's a fictionalized representation
I'm pretty sure it was said that the 2nd girl was his real girlfriend that he decided at some point to ditch for the virtual one.

>the substitution of fiction for real life is unhealthy
I disagree again. Or actually, I'd like to know what you think a "healthy" life is. You probably realize how debatable it is.
As far-fetched as it might sound for you fiction is actually healthier for some people who can't get anything from real life whatever their reasons are.

>>12803116
>I'm pretty sure it was said that the 2nd girl was his real girlfriend that he decided at some point to ditch for the virtual one.
I'm speaking from the viewer's frame of reference.

>Or actually, I'd like to know what you think a "healthy" life is.
How far you can climb up the hierarchy of needs is probably a good approximation.

>You probably realize how debatable it is.
Well, sure.

>>12803110
Now bully. pls back to /a/.

>>12803090
What's unhealthy about it? That's just some made up shit. If it keeps you from killing yourself how is it any less healthy than going out and being a normie with drugs and wreckless behavior.
Everyone lives their life their own way. Not talking to people isn't going to kill you. Is "healthy" just another way of saying "fitting in"?

>>12803124
>What's unhealthy about it? That's just some made up shit. If it keeps you from killing yourself how is it any less healthy
The fact that you wanted to kill yourself in the first place indicates that there was something unhealthy about your lifestyle to begin with.

>than going out and being a normie with drugs and wreckless behavior.
Also not healthy.

>Everyone lives their life their own way. Not talking to people isn't going to kill you.
If you really think that you'll be happy without human contact for the rest of your life, bully for you, you're some sort of hermit sage.

A lot of other people aren't like that. "When the money runs out, I'll kill myself," "I hope I've killed myself by the time I'm thirty," "I have no plans for the future" - maybe you've got all your shit in order, but there are a lot of otaku (or Western otaku-imitation losers) who think like that.

>>12803126
>What's unhealthy about it? That's just some made up shit. If it keeps you from killing yourself how is it any less healthy
The fact that you wanted to kill yourself in the first place indicates that there was something unhealthy about your lifestyle to begin with.

>than going out and being a normie with drugs and wreckless behavior.
Also not healthy.

>Everyone lives their life their own way. Not talking to people isn't going to kill you.
If you really think that you'll be happy without human contact for the rest of your life, bully for you, you're some sort of hermit sage.

A lot of other people aren't like that. "When the money runs out, I'll kill myself," "I hope I've killed myself by the time I'm thirty," "I have no plans for the future" - maybe you've got all your shit in order, but there are a lot of otaku (or Western otaku-imitation losers) who think like that.

>>12803126
>how is it any less healthy than going out and being a normie with drugs and wreckless behavior
Who the hell said that? What kind of person are you that those are your only options?

>>12803136
>"When the money runs out, I'll kill myself," "I hope I've killed myself by the time I'm thirty," "I have no plans for the future"
That's shit that EVERYONE deals with, everyone suffers those problems except for maybe the really rich and privileged people. Even I, the resident hermit sage of /jp/ who hope to one day lead us to the wonderful world of taking it easy, have stayed up at night worrying. It's something wrong with the world, not with escapism. The real unhealthy thing in the world is escapism, it's what we're trying to escape from.

>>12803147
isn't escapism*

>>12803145
an american

It's a pretty damn fine piece of animation work regardless of what you think of the content. Studio Khara has some top-notch hands.

The actual content is what you'd expect from something coming from Anno's studio. You even see the Eva girls representing the sort of otaku co-opting that distorted Anno's initial message to begin with in Eva (i.e. to stop crippling oneself with escapism). This is essentially an ultra-poppy condensed version of Eva. I think as a music video, the concept elevates Teddyloid's music, but in the converse, I think Teddyloid is dragging down the message with his trashy-club aesthetic. Actually, the whole hypersexualization aspect is dragging this idea down since it doesn't really represent the ideal otaku sexual female (they're much too sexualized and forward; otaku like more passive, docile females--moe girls over club hoes). Having such aggressive female characters doesn't really complement the idea of otaku escapism as masturbatory fantasy (e.g., a title like Me! Me! Me!); you can kind of see hints of it, as in how the anime girl resembles his supposed girlfriend, but it's weak at best.

Anyway, my two cents. I actually was planning to watch this because Studio Khara. It was alright. I liked the animation. Didn't really care for the music or the theme, but they're more like just a backbone to showcase the animation anyway. All i know is that i wanna fugg the computer girl.

>>12803147
>The real unhealthy thing in the world is escapism, it's what we're trying to escape from.
Oh man

>>12803147
>It's something wrong with the world, not with escapism.
I know. If the world were a completely pleasant place, there wouldn't be a need for escapism. The world is shit, yeah. But using fiction as escapism doesn't help it either, and it even harms your mental sanity and worsens problems in the long term, both for yourself and everyone. Better choices are either fight to change it, or to find an alternate lifestyle away from what the media and society tells you. Do whatever the fuck you want, just don't harm yourself.

Of course, I'm in no position to say this, but it's what I genuinely think. We're doing it wrong.

>>12803166
I agree. And yes, I'm annoyed by the current wave of shitty EDM going on in Japan, what the fuck? I tolerated Teddyloid better when he made pure electrohouse.

>a title like Me! Me! Me!
If the title is what you say, it really represents the egoism present in escapism.

>>12803182
>But using fiction as escapism doesn't help it either
This is the core message of the video and Eva. You'll notice that there's no resolution to the narrative. This is because using escapist mediums to escape from escapist mediums is inherently contradictory. The satire will fall flat for otaku who are hungry for more porn and for normals, it will just be preaching to the choir. You can see the response from normies which boils down to a very detached sort of amusement (CRAZYwwww) by the whole display. At least in Eva, Anno had tried to dissolve the narrative and switch the medium and generally shock the viewer to try to get the point across. Eva was uncomfortable. This is just...meh.

>>12803182
Work is harmful as well because if you work you lose. Everything we do is escapism, we're just escaping to different places. People try to use money as something to make them feel safe, and weebs and nerds use anime and games to make themselves feel safe. They're doing the same shit so who am I to judge. Living one way just makes you unable to understand the other and even more problems are created because we can't understand that what we're doing is just another word for what they're doing. Using the extremes, being a shut in is just as harmful as being an overworker. You alienate yourself from people and the world because you're chasing just one thing, security and comfort. Which is why I don't like you using only fiction escapism as the unhealthy thing. It's easy to pick on the video game playing nerds when we refuse to look in the mirror.
The only unhealthy thing is trying to survive instead of simply living. We make our own problems.
Just take it easy friends.

>>12803198
>the egoism present in escapism.
That's exactly what I'm trying to say. It's an insulated, self-serving comfort that we sometimes forget about because we're attaching ourselves to characters and fictional narratives while forgetting our central role as viewers vicariously living out the fantasies.

Any and all discussions about this thing degenerate this way.

You're fucking replying to pasta, you troglodytes.

>>12803229
I'll degenerate your butthole nerd

>>12803238
lewd and rude!

>>12803244
that's just how I roll here on the jay

>>12803232
Really? Where?

It subverts the sexy girl archtype in a fairly lazy way. "Take something everyone likes, and make it creepy monsters that the protagonist confronts with fear and violence" is not only uninspired, but kinda immature. There must be some way to make tits and ass unsettling besides a gross-out. It doesn't say anything new or interesting about male desire or sexuality, or really anything at all. If it does say something, it's just the old femme fatale schtick of "Guys are powerless to their sexual desires, aren't they?", which isn't particularly edifying.

Not to say that it has to say something of value, I suppose. It's a very slick video overall--it just felt like it had the pretense of something a bit deeper. I'm just disappointed at all the missed opportunities.

Not sure why people are talking so much about it, just looks like a normal stupid music video, and vocalshit at that.

The music is shit. But the video itself is nice. If they made the music more intense or something, I think I'd like it more.
Why does /a/ even talk about this? It's just a music video with a slightly deep meaning.

>>12803750
/a/ will discuss anything you throw at it. What's it to you?

Overrated shit.

>>12803761
if i talk about the relations to nicki minaj and anime will they talk about it too? can we have deep threads about the relation to super bass and waifus?

I hate MeMeMe! so fucking much.

So fucking much.

And all of you as well!

>>12803750
While you may agree with most people on the major points of the work, you'll find that there are plenty that have differing opinions on the minutia. There are enough users browsing /a/ that that can constitute sizable discussion.

>>12803865
I hate YouYouYou! as well!

>>12803214
It's hard to take it easy

>>12802708
fuckin nerd
Get out of here

>>12802592
No, it's a mememe.

>>12803041
>I do not think the guy had a girlfriend
I agree, probably just some depressed nerd jerking off to fantasies.

Its brilliant. I'd like more shorts withdeep undertones.

>>12803166
>Actually, the whole hypersexualization aspect is dragging this idea down since it doesn't really represent the ideal otaku sexual female (they're much too sexualized and forward; otaku like more passive, docile females--moe girls over club hoes).
I assumed it's what's underneath the surface of the cuteness and moe and that hyper sexuality took a more aggressive form because it's ruling his life.

>>12804568
I agree, because she started out as a pretty cute, stereotypical anime on the season 'waifu'. She only degenerated after his world started flipping upside down.

>>12804568
>I assumed it's what's underneath the surface of the cuteness and moe and that hyper sexuality took a more aggressive form because it's ruling his life.
That would be a misunderstanding of the otaku syndrome. Cartoon sexuality doesn't dominate or control the otaku. It's the fantasy and escapism of it all, sexual or otherwise. I do like how the media literally consumes the guy in this ironic metaphor, but to focus so heavily on such a stereotypical notion of hypersexuality undermines the message.

Otaku narratives are not primarily about sex, but rather fantasy. They want comfort. They want the impossible. They also sex too, of course, but they want it according to specific rules. Moe is a powerful topic and theme because it codes sexuality into its symbols and returns a contradiction: innocence and propriety interwoven with implied sexuality. Like how a "miko" is simultaneously a sexual fetish object and a symbol of innocence and purity. In the video, however, we really just have unambiguous femme fatale sex objects doing femme fatale sex things--i see no moe and hardly any cuteness beyond the rather generic female art style (done with intent I guess, but underutilized). So, underneath the sexy anime girl is a monster of sorts. It's not like that hasn't already been explored with more finesse by other artists. I just get the feeling they wasted the potential by making it mainstream-friendly.

There's really not that much to discuss here: guy becomes consumed by the thing he consumes. Hella cartoon butts that i wanna fugg. The end. But I guess it IS more than you would expect from a music video, and the animation quality is top-notch, so congrats Khara, I guess.

>>12804568
The first encounter I interpreted as just part of a wet dream sequence because of how explicitly representative the last scene in it was of ejaculation. The subsequent encounters felt more like they were trying to represent real women, something he's attracted to but thinks are hostile to him. It might seem like a stretch, but when he encounters them in definable locations they are out to get him. As well, the girlfriend both transforms into the alien and is absorbed by it which I think is showing she becomes something he doesn't understand when they go their separate ways. Since the dancers are similar sort of being to the transformed girlfriend, I feel if she is representing something real that they are too.

What's ruling his life, his addiction, feels more shown by the unmasked alien version of his girlfriend since it both overwhelms him and actually consumes him.

>>12804741
>The first encounter I interpreted as just part of a wet dream sequence because of how explicitly representative the last scene in it was of ejaculation
No the first encounter definitely has significance. It's something like: inoffensive female character >> sex symbol >> monster.

>the girlfriend both transforms into the alien and is absorbed by it which I think is showing she becomes something he doesn't understand when they go their separate ways
I think it's more like he's using cartoon females as a substitute for his ex or whatever, so when he comes close, she transforms into or is consumed/absorbed by them.

The "real life" locations aren't really real as it's played out like a video game. I think he's trying to get out, but in the end he can't. I don't think this is incompatible with a "fear of females" reading, but if he had a girlfriend at one point, I don't think that really supports it.

I actually think it's quite a fine video. On second viewing I think it's great if you appreciate it as a music video and just that. I think I'm just hating how memey it has gotten and people hailing it like some sort of masterpiece or "mindfuck". pls.

>>12801514
You have got to be incredibly dumb to seriously compare this to a powerpoint. But of course you're just trolling, which makes you even dumber than that.

>>12804754
I don't deny significance, but I think dancers at the start are something separate from when he sees them later. It showed what he thought he highly attractive whilst clearly showing he's an otaku. The fact that he only shows actual surprise during what I felt was the dream sequence was when the alien moved towards him makes me feel that he was aroused from the characters at the start and that she already began as highly erotic. The transformation from the lightly colored dreamscape to the darker one certainly indicates a change, but his lack of immediate response at it feels more like a change in the sexual expression rather than the introduction of it.

For the break-up scene, it felt to me that he walked away because when a challenge appeared it was easier to just indulge in escapism which then consumes him. The juxtaposition of her crying at what remains of him then transforming and drifting away whilst still in the introspective part makes me feel that's what he thinks she becomes rather than something tainted by the lens of his addiction. The subsequent absorption later at the dance-club space station feels like it's reinforcing her becoming something he doesn't understand and she's continuing on with her life in a way like the other girls there.

I don't think he has a strict fear of females, but more of a rejection of the outside world in favor of escapism which is why he can't beat his addiction. He can't get away from it in isolation.

>>12802981
This.

The "THIS VIDEO IS YOU GUYS" comparison is like an awful and completely inaccurate strawman, the otaku lifestyle problem is the complete lack of the cute girl in the first place because they all chase chads until they look to 'settle' for a free meal ticket.

>>12804814
Well, it wasn't made for Western consumption.

>japanese girls are also sluts
Probably true, but it's not going to manifest the same way.

>>12804814
If they're trying to equate this to real life, the only thing I can equate it to with her crying at him is "she cheated on him and she 'regrets it'"

If that's the case he made the right choice.

yeah too vulgar I can't

>>12802686
they're actually showing what it's like to be a hikki and the feelings during it such as the escapeism the realisation of where you are in life the regret of what you did in the past because of it or what got you into the hikki lifestyle and then thinking that you'll go and do something and how you'll do it and at the very end not doing it and doing the same thing over and over again

Idk why, but I really like the video. Just wish they soundtrack was 3 full song so I could listen to it without it switching tempo 3 times

>>12805120
I don't smoke.
I'm not depressed.
I don't like pleb-tier taste fanservice everywhere.

I go to work and rush home as soon I'm finished (I work because NEETbux wouldn't be enough).
I close myself in my own home and do nothing but stay in front of my PC all day.
I love watching cute stuff and I couldn't care less about what happens in the world, I don't care if it's escapism, I love my life, I wish my routine never changed.

>>12801435
It's basically made for /jp/.
It gave the community a chance to write weird essays about philosophy and society - including the phantom of "escapism", I remember when a teacher handed us a piece of paper lamenting that Lord of the Rings is "escapism" and will destroy the world - hurl insults at each other, and, of course, cry a river.

And yes the video is probably made to insult its audience, so if Mr Anno dislikes otakus he can sell his works and figurines to Wall Street bankers and top lawyers, or whatever. The people who made this fan service ridden clip are hypocrites, living from the people they mock. They deserve to be bankrupted.

>>12805215
>The people who made this fan service ridden clip are hypocrites, living from the people they mock.
You don't know what you're talking about. Anno is the quintessential otaku, representing not only the 2nd gen, but also ushering in the new generation of otaku with Eva.

This shit isn't even mocking otaku you fuckass. Misrepresenting MAYBE, but not mocking. It's clearly sympathetic at its core.

>>12805215
Escapism is a thing and unavoidable concept in the video. However, the moral outrage that most people have for the idea is about as well-founded as your contempt for its creators.

>>12805187
well good for you, the message of the video is for people who are full-on hikki and addicted to being one (that's why the cigarettes are used to be compared to smokers they may want to stop what they are doing because it's bad for them but they can't because they are 'adicted')

also it's for people who are upset with their lifestyle and want to fight it but in the end are conssumed by it...

congradulations if your okay with where you are because some people hate being there and hate being powerless to escape it

>>12804814
>chads
Is this the new "jocks"?

FULL SONG WHERE

>>12801435
I wish they were lolis instead of titcows

>>12802449
What happened, and how, on /a/ when this and the other animator expo shorts appeared made me realize that the board actually changed in the last two years. meaning that today's /a/ user is a person with a purely passive interest in any media, on the same streak housewives watching soap operas and reality shows. what hurt me most wasn't the fact the guys browsing /a/ actually don't know anything about anime, but that they don't know anything about entertainment and visual culture in general. they're like a bunch of kids that never spent two seconds reflecting on something, accepting without a second thought the opinion of the group
I know it sounds like a grandpa speak, but its true, constant communication lobotomized people. the future isn't bright at all

>>12805236
>ushering in the new generation of otaku with Eva
Eva is absolute god damn trash.

>>12805357
Eva is the single reason japanese media is in this state. its not trash, its poison.
the fact that Anno himself is pulling out this garbage and label "fresh animation" is unbearably caustic. who could have known that too much talent and not the lack of would have been the disgrace of anime?

>>12805415
You guys are retarded. Anno is doing nothing more than follow the trends set before him. This is the otaku, this is the people who watch these shows. Delusions and obsession have been part of this before the internet was fully matured.

And you are fools and blind madmen if you deny this.

>>12805415
>Eva is the single reason japanese media is in this state. its not trash, its poison.
So Eva improved otaku culture? That's pretty cool, you know.

>this thread

Sasuga /jp/!

>>12805479
It is what is expected of us.

>>12805120
I was a hikki for two years and I had a fucking blast playing videogames all day and sleeping however much I wanted. Literally heaven on earth.
I now have to work 6 days a week and my body is always in physical pain and I have trouble falling asleep. I'm considering suicide.

>>12805515

parents?

I have a buddy whose parents must be top rank on the NEET parental compatibility index. This nigger is 28 and they let him smoke weed in his fucking room door and windows closed, doesn't even have to hide his drugs or bong, dropped out of high school and gets a $400/month allowance, "as long as he doesn't kill himself" is what his dad literally told me lmao

his girlfriend works as a legit stripper -shy, quiet, polite black girl.

man some people have fucking everything

>>12805567
Looks like the guy needed a several good beatings as a kid.

>>12805567
I got nothing.
I was in my bed, and all I had was free food and free internet. I used 4chan and pirated games. It was amazing and it was all I ever needed in my life. I dont do drugs, those arent things I enjoy. My top rated activity is sleeping and I get none of it these days.
I deeply regret ever finding a job and I should have just stuck around eating 2 meals a day and having a tiny, three bed sized room for as long as I could have.
By the way, I still havent moved out, rent in this area is around 70% of my monthly pay. I am slaving away for absolutely nothing, my life is stressful, and my money is wasting away in the bank since there is nothing I want to buy, I dont need anything.

The fact that people think being a hikki is a negative thing just speaks of how brainwashed you guys are. Normies work all their lives to save enough money to maybe someday be able to have their last few miserable years of their lives free of work. Having that time instead when you can actually enjoy it, that is actually living.

>>12805600
>all I had was free food and free internet.
You already had what people work for. That's like skydiving without a parachute and miraculously landing unhurt then wondering why people bother slowing their fall.

>>12804400
I know friend. But taking it easy doesn't mean being lazy or ignoring everything. Enjoy things for what they are because that's all they can ever be. Things come and go and all we can do is hope we enjoy them while we can.

>>12805600
>70% of my monthly pay
A tiny apartment goes for 400 US$. You must work half time in some sort of food joint in a 3rd world country.

>>12805692
it depends on where you live

>>12805710
New York? Get the fuck out of the main city idiot. You cannot pay that rent. The suburbs are more affordable and you may find a job in the area, since you already have experience and a reference.

can someone explain to me the video

>>12806395
Read the fucking thread.

>>12806395
Why don't you just watch the video and come to a conclusion yourself, or do you regularly need your hand held through everything?

>>12806402
>>12806403
can you just make my life easier and explain it

>>12806415
Fuck off.

>>12806416
get lost troll

>>12806418
Read the fucking thread you fucking dipshit.

>>12806418
Do something for yourself, for once.

babies are so gross

http://strawpoll.me/3210158

>>12806425
>>12806426
take your baby pictures and kill yourself out

>>12806415
Here :
https://archive.moe/a/thread/117599721
https://archive.moe/a/thread/117702513
https://archive.moe/a/thread/117672199
https://archive.moe/a/thread/117628419
https://archive.moe/a/thread/117446896
https://archive.moe/a/thread/117384854
https://archive.moe/a/thread/117728315

You know someone is a normie if they save baby pictures to their hard drive.

>>12803209
>The satire will fall flat for otaku who are hungry for more porn and for normals, it will just be preaching to the choir. You can see the response from normies which boils down to a very detached sort of amusement (CRAZYwwww) by the whole display.
At least they're honest, liking the only things worth appreciating. Don't know why this ground is continuously retreaded and people dissect it because it has some relevance to them or feel a need to justify a boner.

"Oh, those pathetic otaku and NEETs and hikkis, stuck in a rut."

It's self-deprecation at this point. The video itself is too distracting to get a message across. If it had a message to heed, it's self-defeating. It is entertaining, for sure.

I wish my cute anime girls will never be influenced by neo-american nigger culture like twerking.

>>12806827
you do realise the so called 'distracting' parts are part of the message

>>12806881
And it defeats itself. It is titillation and no one will take anything from it.

>>12801435
I really like Daoko. Hard to believe she's 17 and she already has all these features and a full length album.

Video is whatever

Why is this thread so hostile? Whatever happened to taking it easy?

>>12806949
How do you think she got there?

>>12806954
If everyone really took it easy all the time there would be no need to say it.

>>12806938
it represents temptation

>>12806975
Doesn't matter, message falls flat because it just feeds into what it criticizes (apparently). The audience to which it has the most relevance jerk off to it and you nerds are jerking off to it in another manner.

Once you've exhausted all your loads, you'll move on.

Isn't the fact that people found the blue haired girl sexy just backfire the message?

>>12806993
It is not. But she is overbearingly sexy. Like something out of a retarded smut manga written by ShindoL. It is decadence. And it gets the message across, since she is something that men should not prefer, thu the gunfight.

>>12806993
Yes, because they'll either ignore or fap to the lewdity.

>>12806993
not all people who watch anime fap every chance they get you know, and most of them take this sort of video seriously because it relates to their situation and the feels pour in and by the end thy're like: 'Whoa.... the fuck just happened' and they realise how much they're like the dude in the video because they play it over analyse it and realise the meaning and message of it

So yeah.......

>>12806993
How the fuck can anyone like a poorly drawn character?

>>12806993
They can't stop my penis.

>>12807088
>saying this in the touhou board

>>12807085
>it relates to their situation
but I never had a girlfriend.

Shove it, you can keep your le epic MAYMAYS to yourself, ledditor.

>>12807099
>70
but i bet you liked a girl before and maybe you told her or gave up and in the end went back to being an anime otaku like us because BOOM BITCH GET OUT THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the animation was mostly ok, except that shitty 3d part, the music was trash, i don't see any deep message in this HMV

>>12807085
>most of them take this sort of video seriously because it relates to their situation and the feels pour in and by the end thy're like: 'Whoa.... the fuck just happened' and they realise how much they're like the dude in the video because they play it over analyse it and realise the meaning and message of it
And then it wears off because it's another opportunity to jack off to one's own misery. There are have been more competent and biting critiques of such material. But this has tits and ass and action and techno music so WOAH.

>>12807107
>BOOM BITCH GET OUT THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or they were simply unavailable or not interested. At some point you just stop looking for one, unless you're some kind of masochist who enjoys rejection?

It's nothing like the music where the guy had one girl that was enough in love with him to cry while falling on her knees when he decided to ditch her.

>>12807133
>techno music
It's EDM, shitlord. Your post triggered me

>>12807099
Forget the girlfriend. You never lied in bed staring at nothing, unable do do anything because of the crushing depression you feel day to day?

>>12807166
I'm glad it did, faggotron

>>12806954
Times have changed, anon. Do people even sage anymore? I think it's just going to get worse and worse too. I hope there will be a nice alternative site once things get too horrible here. Maybe not Gensokyo, not yet at least.

>>12806949
She's 17? Holy fuck. Makes me feel like shit.

I despise the archetype of the male character being afraid of the affectionate female. It can be funny and cute when it's about kids. But it's not funny or cute when both are sexually mature. Real men wouldn't run away from a woman like that.

>>12806954
Even the last traces of those dreamlike days have been purged

>>12801435
Shitty music.

>>12807248
>Real men wouldn't run away from a woman like that.
You think so? Right off the bat the blue haired girl seems pretty suspicious to me.

>>12807248
>real men
>otaku

>>12801606

>>12805716
I got off work and wanted to reply to this guy even though our posts got deleted.
By the suburbs, nothing is under 700 or 800USD, just for rent and not including utilities. There is no fucking way I'm paying that much for a place where I'll spend less conscious time than at work.
I have friends pooling together to pay 1400 a month rent for a 3 bedroom place in an average neighborhood. 400usd wouldnt even get you a trailer park rent.
You are some extremely sheltered kid thas has no idea how much rent is, or some bumpkin from a flyover state.

>>12807921
Why do people who aren't filthy rich live in California/New york again?

Where's the album version?

>>12803166
>Actually, the whole hypersexualization aspect is dragging this idea down since it doesn't really represent the ideal otaku sexual female (they're much too sexualized and forward; otaku like more passive, docile females--moe girls over club hoes).

This is the point, I thought. Masturbatory fantasy taken so far that it eclipses the otaku's traditional values. The video is meant to shock the viewer with disgusting, vulgar displays of sexuality.

>>12807803
http://gifsound.com/?gif=i.imgur.com/akt7QoJ.gif&v=C0pLKonr4C4