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The last MMO thread actually turned out to be really swell and was a fun thread to use as a discussion, so might as well pop this up again after it being dead FOREVER.

Are you playing any MMO's /jp/?
Are you playing on any japanese realms or servers?

>> No.12799153

>>12799104
Playing FFXIV, Chocobo server.

MMOs are a good way to practice your japanese, provided you try your best to be social ( and talk on LINE)

>> No.12799162

>>12799153
Playing that too on Matheus, I keep seeing a few japanese people running around. I tried to the best of my abilities to talm with them, but their english is better than my japanese.

>> No.12799179

>>12799104
Currently playing Neverwinter and I'm enjoying it, surprisingly. Nobody to play with though. I want to get into PSO2 but nobody to play that with either.

>> No.12799191

>>12799179
sounds like you need friends

>> No.12799201

>>12799153
This, but on Excalibur.
Getting burned out a bit though, as the content is all either super face roll grind or team jump rope, and people either can't perform mechanics to save their lives or just can't take it easy and fly into sperg rage over the smallest things.

>> No.12799210
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>>12799104
Bench simulator

>> No.12799228

>>12799104
I'm, sort of, playing NA TERA. Double XP ends in about 24 hours and I haven't even leveled my new Sorcerer once.

>>12799179
Does or did /jp/ play Neverwinter Nights?

>> No.12799229

>>12799201
>>12799162
>>12799153
I'm surprised so many people play FFXIV.

I had the most fun completing the story.

I don't like how endgame is basically raiding. I hate raids where everyone has to be so coordinated. It creates scheduled time to play games.

I don't really enjoy playing games at a scheduled time. Raiding system is horrible

>> No.12799236

>>12799228
Is the grind in TERA really that bad? I was looking for an MMO to enjoy over winter break but if the grind is that bad I might not even bother.

>> No.12799239

waiting for ms2
does anyone play dragon's nest? how's the na version doing? haven't played in a long while

>> No.12799245

>>12799179
Neverwinter felt a bit watered down to me. Over simplified, maybe. I didn't get very far into it though.

>>12799228
I've played NWN2, it's a pretty good game.
I'll have to go back and try the first one day. The fact I played NWN2 could be why I felt the MMO was watered down, actually, but even if that isn't the case, even WoW felt more complicated, pre-pandaria.

>> No.12799250

>>12799229
Yeah, that's my biggest issue with it as well essentially.
Hopefully the expansion will change that.

>> No.12799267

>>12799236
The grind isn't that bad. I play on high ping and am sort of demotivated. You can get 60 in 2 days (~24 hours) if you know the correct methods and you're on a class that can solo alot of stuff (i.e not a Priest or Mystic). Killing BAMs is pretty satisfying. A new expansion released for the NA client tomorrow, increasing the level cap to 65. If you have a way to get ahold of XP boosts, leveling is much easier.

>>12799245
I would highly recommend NWN1. I don't think there was a game I played more in my youth. NWN2 is also good and retains many of the charms, but I simply don't think you can beat the enjoyment of playing NWN1 again and playing through the story, which admittedly I never finished. NWN1 and NWN2 still have reasonably sized online communities, actually.

>> No.12799277

Come play Trove!

>> No.12799313

>>12799104
I'm returning to PSO2 in a few days.

>> No.12799328

Should totally raze up a /jay pey/ clan on an MMO, would be a fun + educational time.

>>12799267
>I play on high ping and am sort of demotivated.
We have an underaged girl who plays with like 180~240 ping and is our #1 lancer.

Surely yours cant be that bad

>> No.12799336

>>12799328
That's just you sucking up to her because she's a gril. Typical MMO gamer attitude. I've given up investing any time in MMOs because I can never be as popular or in demand as a gril. Fuck you all.

>> No.12799344

>>12799336
>Sucking up to her because she's a gril.
Why would I suck up to anything other than 2D?

God anon, how disgusting are you?

>> No.12799348

>>12799328
Well, I play on 230-260, but it usually hovers around 250. Maybe I am whining a bit much.
A lancer is actually the class I want to play the most, but I've read and been told that having a high ping makes it hard to block in time for alot of hard hitting animations endgame. I've got a level 24 lancer that I started leveling a while ago and didn't finish off. It's possible in the reading I've done they are referring to PVE and PVP in general, whereas PVE would be much more suitable for me because of high ping.
I might give it a go then, thanks for the motivation. What server/guild are you in? I would love to play an MMO with /jp/ because I've never done so before; I was just in TIE but then I stopped playing a week after I joined.

>> No.12799392

>>12799210
Wishing they'd add more real content to that game.

More continents, for example, or making the existing ones more of an open world.

>> No.12799402

>>12799210
Alexina?

>> No.12799451
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They added marriage to FFXIV.

I wish I had someone to marry...

>> No.12799488

>>12799451
You can marry NPCs if that is your wish, or so I heard.

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I finished T13 on FFXIV, now I'm going back to finish savage T9.

>> No.12799609 [DELETED] 

>>12799451
Is that your character? You look like a nerd.

>> No.12799609,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>12799328
tell us more

>> No.12799707

>>12799402
Superior Mari.

>> No.12799710

reminder TERA is a korean rip off of Japanese culture and has no place in the hearts of tru-jpsies.

>> No.12799739 [DELETED] 

>>12799710
TERA is a korean ripoff of colean culture though.

>> No.12799778

Waiting on Tree of Savior, still going to play it even if it's being published by Nexon..

>> No.12799790

Waiting on Black Desert and Skyforge. ArcheAge wasn't as fun as the Russian open beta for some reason.

>> No.12799778,1 [INTERNAL] 

the good old days are coming back....

>> No.12799790,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>12799778,1
RO is fun as HELL but grindy as HELL I have a lfe

>> No.12799790,2 [INTERNAL] 

u will never enjoy mmos as much as u did ur first

>> No.12799790,3 [INTERNAL] 

>>12799790,2
the feel... feels never change

>> No.12799927

I want to go back to FFXIV but the grind scares me off. Also the fact that the fanbase is pretty damn bad.
I'm going to try PSO2 because of the cool customization and gameplay.

>> No.12799947

>>12799927
If you're an average /jp/sie you could probably grind to i110 in two weeks easily.
The only real grind is the relic, and I'd advise against that for anyone not already midway through it.

>> No.12799950

>>12799947

I understand that I could, I just don't really want to.

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>>12799947
The Relic weapon? Doesn't that only take at minimum 2 or 3 days because of waiting for cooldowns for something. I don't really remember, but I got the relic weapon on my Black Mage and it was long, but I don't remember it being too unbearable.

>> No.12799965

>>12799790
>ArcheAge
Didn't feel like playing it at all when it got released in the west.
I enjoyed the Russian beta and really liked the concept of the whole game, it just wasn't the same.

>> No.12799967

>>12799955
There's a grind to get the relic to i125 now.
First step is grind out 12 atmas from FATEs in 12 different zones.
Next is complete 9 books that cost 500 soldiery each. Each book needs you to kill 100 trash mobs, do 3 semirare FATEs, do 3 dungeons and kill the last boss, and 3 leves.

Next step requires 75 alexandrite. You can get a map that drops one for 400 soldiery, 1 per day from a daily quest, with hunt currency, or a super low drop rate from FATEs. Also need materia to fuse to your weapon.

Next step is to grind out 2000 "lights". The fastest way of doing this is essentially kill Garuda HM ~750 times if you get lucky with bonus windows.

The next step involves something like 6000 soldiery, 80k GC Seals, 300k gil, and desynthesis and grinding all the dungeons in the game for a semi-rare drop.

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>>12799210
copycat simulator

>> No.12799980

>>12799967
Not all the dungeons in the game, but the ones from Dzemael Darkhold up.
And after that step most of the weapons wind up looking like shit anyway.

>> No.12800005

>>12799967

Fucking hell. Screw that.

>> No.12800007

>>12799965
Same here, I got dragged into the NA release by some friends. But we ended up quitting at level cap.

>> No.12800021

I'm only playing LoL on random normal because I don't have any friends and playing a MMO without friends is boring.

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>>12799210
>Bench simulator

>> No.12800101

>>12799967
Looks like I have much to do then.

>> No.12800118

>>12800101
If you go crazy you can probably reach the last step in about 5 weeks, starting from scratch with some luck.
Alexandrite is probably going to take the most time to do as Soldiery is a pain to grind and hunts are no longer as lucrative they were.

>> No.12800146

I've been playing SWTOR and much to my despair I'm actually enjoying it

>> No.12800961

I'm looking forward to albion online.
seems like a game you can go full autist on over the guild warfare requiring your attention at set times every day

>> No.12801266

>>12799336
You can be if you become a trap

>> No.12801341

I was playing archeage with some friends but they all quit. Then they moved to FFXIV but I've been playing other games alone.

>> No.12801357

>>12799778
so with nexon behind it, will it be region locked? or is there still a chance that EU can play on US?

>> No.12801481

I wish Peria Chronicles was loved by everyone and received priority funding.

Nothing will ever be fun to kill monsters pointlessly in as RO, nothing will have interesting combat and be permanently hardmode like early Mabi. Modern MMO games also all have shitty looking UIs. I don't even know why I bother trying new MMOs. Peria's content creation system is all I have left to look forward to. Tree of Savior will probably be boring. All it's hype is from nostalgia.

If Peria doesn't pan out, I'll have no choice but to stick to Mabi. I wish Japan actually made and released fun and cute MMOs in the west and kept them here, instead of gross realistic ones. ECO is the only one I can think of that lasted here a while.

>> No.12801536

>>12801481
>Peria Chronicles
Woah, that looks suave and really dynamic.

>Nothing will ever be fun to kill monsters pointlessly in as RO
You know, I've loved RO for almost my whole life, and I've always asked myself how they pulled off the fun of grinding monsters? Is it because no quest or point of the game requires you to? The amazing OST coupled with the nice looking sprites and environments?

Also, does everyone these days play Mabinogi on alexina or on Mari? I'm thinking about starting to play that again after my friend took notice of the game.

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>>12801536
RO was fun because it wasn't "endgame is all that matters" bullshit. You saw those few peeps that were max level shining like some blingee mother fuckers in main towns and you wanted to be like them. Maybe not even max levels, just dudes using strong gear (which were strong because of status effects or bonus quirks, instead of just being higher numbers) you saw killing shit better than you, which made you want to kill shit better too. It was social without actually forcing you to interact directly with people, despite the fact that you were just grinding shit.

Also every class was ACTUALLY unique in various senses (it was one of the few games to ever have the balls to actually have healers that ONLY heal and buff, you deal NO damage AT ALL) instead of being all the same thing with different animations.

That it was full of charm and had a godly OST like you said sure helped too. To be honest I still play to this day, although Renewal has it's pros I don't think it compares.

>> No.12801549

>>12801547
>it was one of the few games to ever have the balls to actually have healers that ONLY heal and buff, you deal NO damage AT ALL
>not healbombing undeads
pls

But yeah, great game, I'm trying to get a few friends to play jRO with me.
>updated client, re-balanced and overhauled renewal and usage of UDP + nobots
it's literally all I could ask for.

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>>12801549
jRO's Renewal is some crazy shit, but at least they're getting those sweet as fuck alternative sprites for third classes.

http://sites.levelupgames.uol.com.br/forum/ragnarok/showthread.php?151411-12%BA-Anivers%E1rio-de-jRO-e-Novidades-Atualiza%E7%F5es

Forgive the Brazilian forum link, it was the most complete I could find with Google.

>> No.12801573

>>12799153
>Chocobo server
Oh, that's where I'm playing too! Or rather, was playing, until I realized that I didn't have the time to make the friends I needed to motivate me to keep playing.

>> No.12801617

>>12801357
I tried to some time ago, and it worked but the lag made it so I couldnt even complete the fighting tutorials.

>> No.12801713 [DELETED] 

>>12801559
Thank god for that 3rd job bard improvement and m/f gx return to the original design. The rest are general improvements and they look much more imposing and kind of a big deal.

I don't get why the female archbishop turned into some kind of pseudo goth loli type though.

>> No.12801742

>>12801559
All they did was to get rid of the "half-naked for no damn reason" and "unnecessary shit sticking out everywhere" designs.

A marked improvement all around. Feels much less chunky, especially with the removal of the Space Marine-tier pauldrons.

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12801808

I'm playing PSO2 a ton. Ship 2 player id おみき. Come play, my lord.

>> No.12801917

>>12801808
FAT
CAT

>> No.12801918

>>12801808
I want to lick her pussy

>> No.12801967
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>>12800118
Really? I can usually make a lot of soldiery by running newbies through atma or just by being a healer.

>> No.12802009

Bored of FFXIV
Bored of WoD
Bored of Diablo 3
Bored of Hearthstone
Bored of TERA

Also, no cute jpsie to be lewd with on games

>> No.12802024

>>12802009
If you aren't a girl, I'd have to decline on doing anything lewd, as I'm not exactly the guy for homosexual ERP. Gotta keep up at least some standards.

>> No.12802046

>>12802024
It's not homosexual if both pretend to be girls !

>> No.12802064

>>12802046
Yuri is pretty homo

>> No.12802140

>>12799153

>try your best to be social
>socialization
>/jp/

I'm quoting myself.

>> No.12802154

>>12801547
>Also every class was ACTUALLY unique in various senses (it was one of the few games to ever have the balls to actually have healers that ONLY heal and buff, you deal NO damage AT ALL)

Not to disagree with you as your point mostly stands in regards to modern games, but the whole "healbot" ultraniche thing goes pretty far back. Everquest and Dark Age of Camelot are at least two games I know of whose Clerics (or equivalents) were wholesale designed to keep people kicking and not much else, and I'm sure if you combed through the early 2000s and mid 90s you would easily find other MMO spinoffs that were designed much the same way.

>> No.12802226

>>12801547
>>12802154
So no way in hell for a healer to fend for him/herself? Doesn't sound much fun.

>> No.12802239

>>12802154
DAoC was a blast, way ahead of its time if we're gonna throw buzzwords at it.

>>12802226
If you can't appreciate pure support roles, of course it'd look bad.

Priests were not completely defenseless, if you absolutely HAD to level up solo, there were ways to do it.

>> No.12802262

>>12802226

Oldschool MMO design was based around the idea of mutual co-dependence. Tank, DPS, Healer. There were variations thereof but it pretty much stuck to the trinity. As a side effect, it had the interesting effect of helping foster communities, as people who more or less had to work together interacted with one another and bonds between people formed. Soloing was possible but a grossly inefficient use of your time.

I much preferred it to modern MMOs where you seldom need to meaningfully interact with anyone at all.

>> No.12802318

>>12802262
Well, personally I'm no good at playing the socializing game even through the anonymity provided by the interwebs, so I prefer modern MMO design where I don't necessarily have to engage with other players (who, by the way, will be morons most of the time) to enjoy the game.

>> No.12802345

>>12802226
I think it sounds fun. Means I can roleplay a dependent loli who can't do anything on her own and constantly needs to be protected.

>> No.12802411

>>12802262
>Tank, DPS, Healer.

And nuker and support and ranged and control and whatever crusader/paladin roles fall under.

>>12801547
RO's priests classes were strong as hell against undead and dark or demon enemies. They could go into niflheim or something and fuck shit up.

RO was good in that it had builds without hard skill trees. There were requirements but you could still make different builds with the same class, due to all the skills. Also for having crafting classes as actual classes and not some side skill. Even though it resulted in having alts to do that kind of stuff I liked the idea that you had a character who was a crafter and their fighting and game life were built around that profession. Also stuff like Sages and their anti magic fields.

I don't like how modern games are either classless/free class change or just have 1 tank 1 dps 1 healer 1 ranger and then maybe add some extra damage classes to fill out stuff. Mabinogi sort of gets a pass for having an assload of skills but it really cripples cooperative play in that game.

I also miss RO's job change quests and billion cities.

>> No.12802435

>>12802154
The traditional concept of a cleric from stuff like Dungeons and Dragons was a holy warrior who tended to wear heavier armor and fought with maces while dispensing whatever abilities his god is able to endow him with (heals being the most popular).

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>>12802435
Mabinogi cherishes when it comes to this
>RACK UP FULL HEAVY ARMOR
>BECOME A BARD
>PLAY THE SELF MADE ROCK AND METAL SONGS ON YOUR MUSICAL INSTRUMENT WHILE ABSORBING ALL THE DAMAGE
>HIT SHIT WITH YOUR MUSICAL INSTRUMENT TO KEEP THEM STUNNED
Truly it was the only game where I could rock as a Rock Knight.

>> No.12802520

>>12802467
>WHILE ABSORBING ALL THE DAMAGE
Modern Mabi. I remember when getting hit by anything would be lucky to not kill you, armor or no.

>> No.12802529

>>12802520
ABSORB anon, not ENDURE or SHRUG OFF.

>> No.12802796

I don't think I'm cut out for MMOs any more. I used to play fun cutesy games like Fiesta, Flyff and Seal Online but today's mmos don't have the same pull even if they have a similar look. Tried Aura Kingdom and it felt pretty awful, hoping Tree of Savior lives up to the hype at least a little.

>> No.12802890
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12802890

I tried to level my Mystic on TERA before and I got burnt out after 20 minutes.

>> No.12802975

>>12802890
did you play in a party
and i know this is usual but tera gets good after level 19 because dungeons instead of boring grindans

I seriously see flaws in peoples heads, you have a great combat system, you have a great boss and BAM system, yet you ignore those aspects for a good 18 levels and then for every 3 levels after that.

quests suck, just let me bash things.

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>>12802975
By peoples heads, I meant the developers heads.

>> No.12802982

>>12802890
Mystic soloing is a bad idea. I know, because I did it.

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>>12802975
>did you play in a party
No, I don't have anyone to play with. I'm in a guild but I feel uncomfortable grouping with people.

>>12802982
I could grind BAMs fine pre 30, but apparently it's really inefficient post-30.
I just want to get to level 60 (now 65) so I can be a healer.

>> No.12803004

I like playing PSO2, but I'm way behind basically everyone in terms of levels and I often abandon it for months because I don't feel like sitting through updates. But, if you ever see a cast looking kind of like a bee and named A.P.I.S. on ship 2, you'll know you've found me. Maybe we can do some baby-level missions together.

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>>12799570
Does T13 require an organized group? Or can you keep queuing up until you find a good group and complete it?

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Anyone playing Blade n Soul TW? This game has met every expectation I've ever had for it and it's beautiful.

>> No.12803065

>>12803059
>forgetting gabe exists everywhere kek

>> No.12803078

>>12803059
I heard it's not good.
What's the latency like, and where are you from?

>> No.12803084

>>12803078
160ms from California. Noticeably crippling but not game breaking.

>> No.12803103

I play guild wars 2 but I have no friends so I have never beaten the last quest.

>> No.12803132

>>12803053
You can only enter if you have cleared T10-12 that week, and you must have a full party to enter those instances. You have to clear up to T9 as well.

>> No.12803139

>>12803059
I tried, but since I'm east coast NA it felt really terrible to play. it might be a bit better than the Chinese server lag-wise, but not enough for it to be acceptable for me.

>> No.12803146

>>12803084
I'm playing TERA at the moment on ~250. Maybe I'll give it a go. Is there a pastebin guide you're using? I assume the game would be in not-english.

>> No.12803157

>>12801967
Maybe it's just me but grinding enough soldiery for even a single map feels far more tedious than grinding the 1600 Myth for two of them prior to 2.4.

>> No.12803158

I've got burned out with MMOs years ago. The only thing that catches my eye are ToS and Maplestory 2. Maplestory 2 since it looks colorful and pleasing even though I haven't played the first game.

>> No.12803181

>>12803146
Server is in Taiwan, I'm using a JP to english modded patch. So when you play you will have voices in Chinese, parts of the UI in Chinese, Japanese and English.

>> No.12803197

>>12803181
>>12803146
Oh yeah and here's the guide.

http://pohwaran.com/blade-and-soul-taiwan-account-creation-guide/

>> No.12803303

Does anyone here still play WoW, or have looked at getting back into it with the new expansion?

They didn't ruin everything, despite what you might have heard.

>> No.12803346

>>12803303
Please go somewhere else with your filthy western MMO.

>> No.12803418

>>12803303
>new expansion
No. Just no.

If you want to stay in WoW then use BC or WotLK.

>> No.12803439

>>12803346
>>12803418
Okay sorry for asking

>> No.12803475

>>12803157
It is harder to get soldiery now than it was with myth. Grinding 6400 soldiery for Zodiac is taking me longer than getting the 16 items from dungeons.

>> No.12803554

I really like the concept of MMOs but I never like the gameplay.

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>My cousin was the number 2 Warrior in the world back when Everquest was popular
>Here I am, with a Ranger that I suck at.

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>>12801808
I play pso2 with this nerd (japanese server)

and wot, soon wows, with some other non/jp/ nerds. where are all the military otaku /jp/?!

>> No.12803960

>>12803059
I play BnS but on KR servers. Really loving the game, latency ruins it. Can't wait for a western release...

>>12802154
Actually FF XI was worse with WHM or BRD. You couldn't do jack shit alone. EM monsters would just tear you down.

I was doing more solo with my Druid on DAoC that I could do with my WHM on XI. The biggest issue with DAoC wasn't the class but the specs and you couldn't respec easily (Drake Stones only for complete respec).

Full Nurture Druid weren't doing that badly. Smiting Cleric and so on... could undertake orange/red monsters in PvE (granted it takes ages) and could still 1v1 decently in RvR.

>>12802982
I did solo Mystic all the way to max level and didn't find it that bad. Obviously if you started MMO with WoW and you are used to fast leveling, our definition of bad isn't the same. Any journey faster than 10d of /played to max level is rather fast to me.

>> No.12804267 [DELETED] 

>>12803439
>>12803303
I'll play wow with you dude, but first I just gotta know, are you some kind of turbonormie?

Only normies with wives and jobs and babies play wow nowadays.

>> No.12804316

>>12803004
I'm on the same boat. Haven't played in a long while.

>> No.12804324

>>12799104
Once my winter break starts I plan to try to get back into Dragon Nest and PSO2. I might try Aura Kingdom again too.

>> No.12804461

One dude I that's just kinda of an acquaintance got permabanned from RO for bug abuse and is hiring two lawyers to get his account back.

What a piece of shit waste of fucking money. I play RO too but god damn, filthy rich boy little bitch. Give me that money to buy food with you scum.

>> No.12804521 [DELETED] 

>>12804461
That's an even bigger waste of money you self important scumbag.

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>>12804521
Sick burn.

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>>12799328

I'm sick and tired of trying to play MMOs with hotglue.

You are all a bunch of autistic cunts. The most inconsiderate, the most selfish, the most tactless bunch. I can count on one hand the number of hotglue I've played with that are able to take it easy. Everybody else is pissy little princesses who think they deserve everything.

You do favors for hotglue, they don't even say fucking "thanks". And still they feel like you should continue doing things for them. It's like you've never been around people before, though I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I shouldn't expect an autists to understand group dynamics.

>> No.12804752

>>12799328
/jp/ should start up Mabinogi again and try to get into that 16-32 person raid system they just added. The close combat update and new CC weapons should be in by the time they get up to snuff, although you get free daily rebirth to 1k total levels, so it might not take that long.

>> No.12804758

>>12804708
Vintage pasta!
Haven't seen that one in a while.

>> No.12804766

considering reinstalling PSO2, I never could really get into it that much because I couldn't really find anyone to play with.

I enjoyed Tera for the short time I played, but since I'm on a toaster I couldn't really enjoy it fully

>> No.12804803 [DELETED] 

>>12804708
Wow, way to steal the words right from my video. Do you have no tact?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oVXpYbyp1o

>> No.12805078

>>12804752
I'd be up for that and/or ragnaroks

>> No.12805185 [DELETED] 

>>12804539
>>12805078
Just because you are "up" for something doesn't mean you will play.

>> No.12805277

>>12805185
ok?

>> No.12805391

>>12805185
You're retarded

>> No.12805477

>>12805391
>>12805277
He has a point. People in these threads always post ``Yeah sure, let's hook up~!'' and in the end, they quit after two or three hours and never shop up online again. I know because I'm one of them.

>> No.12805517

>>12805477
if you remember a couple of years ago, /jp/ held the town aokigahara (our names are great...) in Haven and Hearth.

only after we were raided and 90% of us died did we stop.

-Freya

>> No.12805537

>>12805517
Wow, great achievement. You hold a town in a game no one gave a fuck about even back then. In case you don't remember, me and my friends held the pool at Habbo Hotel for hours before we were all banned and stopped! Now, does this make me some great hero of the past? No, just another idiot on the interwebs.

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>>12805537
>You hold a town in a game no one gave a fuck about even back then.
God damn, how fucking new are you?

Almost every 4chan board had their own town and the game itself was at a constant of 1000~ - 4000~ players.

Just because you invited /jp/ to play a shitty mmorpg with you doesn't mean that nobody here plays videogames with eachother or that you need to shitpost in this very thread.

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>>12805543
>God damn, how fucking new are you?

w

>> No.12805684

>>12805543
Not him, but are you genuinely referring to Ragnarok as a shitty MMO???

I think its more like you're a crossie that has invaded our board dude...just like all those faggots that cared about stupid shit like 4chan cup and /pol/ board wars Minecraft server.

You're just pretending to fit here with your normie friends.

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>>12805684
>Not him, but are you genuinely referring to Ragnarok as a shitty MMO???
You never mentioned what MMO you invited /jp/ to.

>You're just pretending to fit here with your normie friends.
Oh boy you sure bet.

also aww yee

>> No.12805782

>>12805772
(You), you gonna re-sub everyone this week again?

>> No.12805793

>>12805772
Fuck, wrong puu.sh
>>12805782
Yeah, I don't have much better to do on Christmas anyhow.

>> No.12805801

>>12805537
>>12805561
Newfaggot. I say that having been here prior to that raiding bullshit mentality that ruined /b/.

>> No.12805809

>>12805772
Did I miss something???

You guys were talking about Ragnarok then quickly changed topic to westerner dog shit for whatever reason...

So what>>12805477 said was true???

>> No.12805820

>>12805809
The discussion was based on Haven & Hearth at that time, please do check linked posts and quotes to follow the topic.

Also no, 0% correct, there's 3 guilds of /jp/ that are active on jRO, and there's a small group on Mari mabinogi, not to count the vindictus group and other few games.

>> No.12805832

>>12805820

>>12805078
>>12804752
>>12803960

What am I missing???

>> No.12805845

>>12805832
everything
now post about anime mmo's or git out

>> No.12805846

>>12805832
It's just butthurt ragnarok fans

>> No.12805854

>>12805846
>>12805845
OK dude...so don't talk about a horriblly outdated MMO that only your normie friends will care about?

Then we talk about the "anime MMOs", okay?

Because the only people here I've seen argue about it were you and the other dude fighting over it.

>> No.12805859

Wow this sure is MMO discussion right here, top notch shit!

Anybody here play Aura Kingdom? Any good?

>> No.12805866

>>12805684
Haven and Hearth predates the introduction of the term "normie" to /jp/, which is used exclusively by post-2012 shitters to refer to anybody they don't like. It certainly predates you.

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>>12805866
Kakkoi monogatati aniki...mind telling me how that changes anything? I'm pretty sure you weren't here before 2009 and if you were here you don't act like everyone else(I have).

You're still arguing about the equivalent of RuneScape + FarmVille that only your buttfriends will care about.

No one is obliged to feel bad for not playing your garbage game when it was(not) cool and hip.

>> No.12805908

>>12805904
>Kakkoi monogatati aniki
>you don't act like everyone else
>deviantart garbage picture
Are you that guy who whined and bitched to /q/ about /jp/ enjoying Wizardry

>> No.12805915

>>12805904
>mind telling me how that changes anything?
I don't care that you didn't play it, I didn't play it either. I just think you're a retard for arbitrarily bashing on someone for being a "normie invader" because he played a /jp/ FotM MMO.

>if you were here you don't act like everyone else(I have).
You talk like a vintage 2008 /b/tard, but that's not an accomplishment.

>> No.12805926

>>12805908
My condolences for the mistake, I did mess up a single word that I could've easily fixed.

>Are you that guy who whined and bitched to /q/ about /jp/ enjoying Wizardry

Not that I know of. Why would /jp/ enjoy something like that?

Are you going to answer my question?

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This is ebig, good job guys www.

>> No.12805939
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Are you looking forward to Peria Chronicles.

You can be a cute girl living your daily life. you just need to give your soul to Nexon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80fIjcGuqkA

And some old trailers:
http://vimeo.com/79370572
http://vimeo.com/79361169

>> No.12805952

>>12805915
Then why are you trying to incite a conversation about it?

No one has to hear about a thing that happened years ago like 4chan cups that no one but you two is going to care about. We were talking about current MMO activity and you come off with something thats probably from times before half the people in this thread browsed.

Also, what's wrong with my loli?

It's still better than your shitty 3D gif, why are you such an egoistic idiot?

>> No.12805957

>>12805929
Epic picture, upvoted u.

>> No.12805958

>>12805939
I don't think it has the right idea with its battle system, but it's interesting nonetheless. Americans don't want to create content though and being an anime mmo, the playerbase isn't gonna be that huge anyway.

Are there any new competitive MMO things /jp/ can play like Gunz, S4, Cosmic Break, & WoT?

>> No.12805961

>>12805952
>Then why are you trying to incite a conversation about it?
I didn't. I stepped into the conversation later in order to call you new to /jp/ and retarded.

>We were talking about current MMO activity and you come off with something thats probably from times before half the people in this thread browsed.
Just because you got here last year doesn't mean that everyone else did. And even if you're right, that means that the other half of people were around for it.

>Also, what's wrong with my loli?
It was your text.

>> No.12805977

>>12805952
>It's still better than your shitty 3D gif
I don't think you recognize that there are 70 unique posters in this thread, and that you're having a conversation with more than one person, think about that.

>> No.12805979

>>12805952
And yet by making this retarded argument you succeeded in drawing tons of attention to something that most likely wouldn't have even been responded to in the first place

Congrats dude

>> No.12805986

I'm downloading Tera. I've never played it before, I decided to download the Japanese client. You need a proxy to open the website, and a proxy to open the client, but after you open it it seems that the download works without a proxy. Do you need a proxy to play the game too? Also does it cost money? Because I don't have any.

>> No.12805990

Come play Aura Kingdom private server, it's full of cute bullies.

>> No.12806006

>>12805961
>>12805977
>I don't think you recognize that there are 70 unique posters in this thread, and that you're having a conversation with more than one person, think about that.

>Just because you got here last year doesn't mean that everyone else did. And even if you're right, that means that the other half of people were around for it.

If that were real then half the posters from that era would be gone, and if you look at the activity rate in /jp/ we have somewhere less than 20 people in here to begin with as it's still a slow board by 4chan standards.

https://catalog.neet.tv/stats.html

Where exactly are you getting 50 people from? Your yahoo normie friend list?

Anyone who goes to /jp/ knows this.

How many of those give a shit about what you're arguing about?

>> No.12806015

>>12806006
>if you look at the activity rate in /jp/ we have somewhere less than 20 people in here to begin with
You mean less than 20 people in this thread? Or less than 20 people in /jp/?

>How many of those give a shit about what you're arguing about?
Not very many, but only because this entire conversation is dumb as shit.

>> No.12806024

Can you nerds stop fighting, please. I just want to take it easy.

>>12805986
>Also does it cost money?
Pretty sure the Japanese version is free to play now.

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>>12806006
I think I'll jump jump boat now, this argument is retarded.

>>12806024
Yeah, all of the Tera server are f2p for a long time now, and you just have to use a proxy at login to play.

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Get your gook shit outta here and come help me fight this big butthead!

>> No.12806058

>>12806051
I don't know what that is.

Please explain.

>> No.12806069

>>12806058
Can't you read the watermark? Or are you too normie to be able to do that?

>> No.12806074
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>>12806058
New boss that just got added to PSO2, Magatsu. Giant thing that requires you to jump on roof tops breaking his faces with ranged attacks or the turrets spread across the map, before he breaks 3 barriers of the city you defend. Its pretty fun but no one really know how to beat him effectively yet so the fights are messy.

>> No.12806095

>>12806069
Maybe he didn't know what the new BAM was, don't be mean to him anon.

I'd like to get into PSO2 myself, I just have no time.

>> No.12806096

>>12806051
But Korean games are cute and look like Japanese anime, whereas Japanese games look like boring realistic western games with slightly larger eyes.

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>>12806095
>BAM
>I'd like to get into PSO2

please do us a favor and never show up in PSO2 or stay in ship 2 we don't want more TERA ERPers

>> No.12806144

I played PSO2 for like 2 days when it first came out. My experience (knowing very little of Japanese) was basically going into some teleportation room and getting teleported to some random places where I just killed shit. Is the entire game just instanced like crazy? Is it not open world?

>> No.12806148

>>12806118
>BAM
>TERA origination
EXCUSE ME

>> No.12806155

>>12806118
>sample

ERP=?

>> No.12806168

>>12806155
People who cyber(sex) in MMOs

>> No.12806186

>>12806168
What's his problem?

Sounds like fun to me, are you into that, /jp/?

>> No.12806191

>>12806186
I'm not a raging turbohomo that strokes my penis to other men, so no.

>> No.12806192

>>12806186
No. Go away cybernormie. Only cybervirgs allowed.

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>>12806191
>>12806192
But we don't have to be men.

you know what I mean right?

>> No.12806213

>>12806209
see
>>12802064

>> No.12806228

>>12806209
No matter how hard you try to deny it you can't change reality.

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>>12806209
>TERA image

>ERP

Point proven.

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Become a HOMUsexual today!

>> No.12806333

How do I speed up Peria, ToS and Closers Dimension conflict coming to the west ? My dick is diamond for them.

Also, is anyone here playing on the euRO server anymore ? (the "new" one) I'm considering getting back there in a month or so, after getting a new PC. Or another comfy mmo, who knows.

>> No.12806335

>>12806144
pls respond

>> No.12806363

>>12806144
Yeah its not open world, the campship is basically your hub and you select missions to teleport down to planets to kill shit. Some areas are considered MPA's (multiparty areas) where you are automatically in a sort of sub party with anyone who happens to be in that area, so you can just sort of enter a mission and work towards a common goal with random players without the fuss of finding an actual main party.

You also get a player room to decorate with stuff and a few areas to hang around in the campship but otherwise its pretty much instanced areas for each mission.

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>>12806333
I played the pre-open beta for Closers and I'm definitely hoping that shit comes to the west, it's been a while since I've played an action based MMO that's actually FUN from the moment you create a character. Lots of combo potential with just the first 2-3 basic skills you get. Well it was at least like that with the character I played.

too bad lancer shota wasn't available yet though.

>> No.12806427

>>12806406
This girl is the one I see everywhere, was she the only one available back then?
I don't know much about the game yet, my hype grew recently - but it somehow managed to get me interested into the hack&slash MMO genre, like Dragonsaga.

>> No.12806459

>all that aggressivity
See? This is why /jp/ MMO threads will never work out.

I don't mind being the Onee-san in RO or WoW but I know that most people would just disappear after 1hour of gameplay.

>> No.12806463

>>12806319
Why do people like making ugly characters? Why would you want to play a game where you can see ugly characters and not just cute ones?

It's like this http://steparu.com/latest-news/1692-here-is-black-desert-online-s-character-customization-going-out-of-control

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>>12806427
Well she's definitely the most popular, but there's 5 characters only three have been playable since closed beta though Seha (the generic shounen MC-looking guy), Seulbi (pink haired girl), and Yuri the aforementioned popular katana and gun wielding girl.

>> No.12806490

>>12806463
>Why do people like making ugly characters?
Only normies because "LOL funny so random XD". You wouldn't want to play with them anyway.

>> No.12806498

>>12806463
I don't see what's wrong with that DINOSAUR FUCK YEAH.

>>12806459
It works better when it's like:
>I play this MMO, do you play it, /jp/?
>I do, let's play together !
rather than:
>Do you want to play this with me, /jp/?
>I do, let's create a character and forget about it by tommorow!

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>>12806463
I'm not that ugly! I blame my toaster tier settings.

>>12806490
#hotglue normie detected!

>> No.12806503

>>12799104
MAKE a RO server /jp/!!!

>> No.12806505

>>12806500

Avatarfagging is against the rules when you aren't being funny, so please stop.

>> No.12806511

>>12806503
but there's already a /jp/ ro server
its called jRO

>> No.12806523 [DELETED] 

>>12806511
how do i play jro is there a sticky

>> No.12806551

>>12806505
I'll stop, just don't bully me or call me a normie.

>> No.12806641

>>12806523
by following quest railroad like generic modern mmo

>> No.12806671

>>12806641
What? Is jRO so different? not having a quest railroad was the best thing about RO.

>> No.12806759

I want to play the Japanese version of DFO but Hangame is shit and requires a JP cell phone number to make an account
>>12806406
Isn't this going into open beta in a day or two?

Did you need a korean cell phone number or VPN to play?

>> No.12806780

>>12806759
It's not IP blocked but I'm not sure about Nexon KR's registration these days. I've had my account since 08 since I've played KR DFO a lot over the years. So I don't know if they added a requirement for a Korean cellphone or not.

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>>12806780
Don't you need a kssn and korean landline as usual?

I want it to be march 2015 already.

>> No.12806816

jRO is pay to play? What did you guys do when you had to input personal information?

>> No.12806864

Speaking of RO, apparently a new private server is opening on the 20th. The rates are 7/7/4, pre-renewal, starting on episode 9.
https://play-ggro.com/
I'm not sure how long this server will last, but it seems like a decent flavor of the month thing. I'll probably end up playing for a week or two before getting bored.

>> No.12806873

Does anyone here play PSO2 on a non-2/4 ship? I don't want to play on one of the ships with large english speaking communities but it might be nice to have one or two other people here that I can play with occasionally

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>>12806864
>muh mlg streamers cashcow pay2win server advertising on all boarde

make like a lemming and jump off a cliff promptlike

>> No.12806907

>>12806500
Are you the person who wanted to ERP.

Fuck off man...

>> No.12806980

>>12806907
I think she's cute.

>> No.12807005

>>12806980
So you like to literally auto-fellate yourself too?

>> No.12807319
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I wish all of /jp/ would just pick 1 game and play together

>> No.12807593

Anyone that plays WoW?
I play in one of the /vg/ guilds on the private server GD, I'm the #1 warlock in the guild.

I also play retail, do you want to play with me sometime? I have a ret paladin on horde, and I'm going to level my DK on Alliance soon.

>> No.12807830

>>12806907
No I'm not, would like more people to actually play with though.

>> No.12807831

>>12805859
I played for some time but deleted my character upon reaching level 40 because it felt like yet another x-legend game without any interesting addition.
I still play whenever a new game comes out, though, I like their cute graphisms. I want dragon slayer (hunter hero) to come out in west so I can test it without bothering with japanese VPN.

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>>12807319

>> No.12807901

>>12807319
These threads are "every anon praises their game and tries to lure /jp/ in the mmo he's already strong at" so we'll never have a conclusion.

Anyway mabinogi is really nice you guys should come here.

>> No.12807908

>>12807901
we need a strong alpha male leader to tell us which game to play

>> No.12807913

>>12807901
>"every anon praises their game and tries to lure /jp/ in the mmo he's already strong at"

And yet you tell people to come to Mabi, where everyone is 5k+ total level and vastly outclass the new players to the point where they're carried like luggage...?

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Why aren't you playing the one true /jp/ mmo?

>> No.12807936

>>12807933
whata fuk man that so random xDDD

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>>12807913
That was the joke.

Though now you can free rebirth every single day until you reach lv1k and from there now everyone can rebirth for free every single week (instead of the old "wait at least 3 weeks if you want to play for free") so new players can get gud really fast now. Elitists were fucking mad about that update.

>> No.12807996

>>12807901
>>12807954
Quit trying to trick more people into getting on the list, avatar shitposter.

>> No.12807998

>>12807954
1k total isn't even worth a damn though, they will still be carried in hard/elite content and feel useless. I've even gone out of my way to mentor new players and tell them what skills to get, they master a skillet then rarely if ever play again.

Level isn't even the main problem either, its the RNG for stone upgrades/enchants/reforges which is borderline criminal as it expects you to pay real money or massive amounts of in game gold that can take months to accumulate through non NX methods, on a weapon that could potentially break if an upgrade or enchant fails. Party play is shit too when your skill will mess up other peoples shit, smashing something give the mob iframes then the gunner fag will get mad that hes wasting his way of the gun. No one gets to do anything in MA either just let the puppeteer crisis and someone else blaze while everyone wonders why they bother playing.

>> No.12808033

>>12807998
Wow what a shitter you are. 1k is plenty. Just max firebolt and related and you can solo hard mode anything.

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>>12806074
>Break open parts
>Look for ice / particle turret
>Insert WB
>Snipe the shit outta it
>Won before he reaches gate 2
gaijin pls

>> No.12808046

>>12808033
Slow as shit, puppeteer will one shot whole wave with aoe while you charge your /q/ueer boy magic.

>> No.12808049

>>12808046
If you don't oneshot with puppeteer you'll just going to assist a show where mobs play ball with your puppet.

>> No.12808066

>>12807319
Too bad there's no way to win in these god awful threads. You're either being lured by /v/ pretend guy trying to beef up their guild or a complete anti-4chan /jp/ that won't let anyone in but a complete mirror personality of himself. Tired of being lured into some e-sports guild pretending to be /jp/ when all I want to do is be lazy in a cute game

>> No.12808076

>>12808066
Let's be lazy together, anon~

>> No.12808080

>>12808066
the only way to win is not to pay

>> No.12808128

>>12808066
We should play a mmo nobody has played so everyone starts from zero.

>> No.12808130

>>12808128
or just force everyone to start from the 0 out and not powergrind like a fuckwad

>> No.12808162 [DELETED] 

/q/ueers, crossies, hotglue and reimoo are all to blame, might as well stop using cuckchan.

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>>12808066
wow, this is so true. i don't want a mirror personality of myself though, i just want to play mmos with cute real girls. i can only get along with cute real girls irl only i can't get along with boys at all sorry i am autistic. i found out that some people with autism only prefer interacting with those of the opposite sex i guess i'm one of them. how many of you /jp/ers are cute real girls irl? its not like i want to even get your pics or anything, you don't have to prove it to me except for the way you talk. guys don't even know how to pretend to be a girl they end up sounding way too fake or are all up in my face with their /v/ tier broism.

long story short i only want to play mmos with cute girls irl or very convincing boys acting as girls. no h please i don't like that stuff

>> No.12808212

>>12808192
Lol, not sure if serious

>> No.12808218

>>12808162
Are you being ironic deliberately?

>> No.12808219

>>12808212

i'm not sure if that would be better or worse

>> No.12808613 [DELETED] 

>>12808066
What exactly do you want to "win", an intertubes hug?

That's what you get for being nitpicky in any way in neo-/jp/ with all these FAGS trying so hard to lure people into their gay crossie guilds for WoW, TERA, et all. Definitely the worst of things you could be playing to start with the problems at hand, for all we know, /vg/ and /ota/ probably absorbed what was left of the playerbase of /jp/, some of them actually play WoW.

Either way, you can't solve metaposts with more metaposts, if you're serious the first thing to do is be patient and wait for something of your liking to happen.

>> No.12808998 [DELETED] 

>>12808613
4chan cant just get rid of itself for no reason established by the staff.

Its an endless circle of invading each other for the reasons we might or might not have to barge into each others private secret club.

/jp/ was never meant to be one the board was full of retards with superiority complex from day 0 and people who shouldnt even be allowed here whether or not we like it.

One more retard from /a/ in your playground shouldnt stop you from communicating with everyone else.

>/vg/ and /ota/ probably absorbed what was left of the playerbase of /jp/, some of them actually play WoW.

/ota/ is dead and /vg/ usually has their own retards to take care of who certainly dont come here at all so thats really irrelevant.

>> No.12809100

I've played some kingdom under fire 2 not too long ago, it was pretty boring

>> No.12809100,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>12799790,2
I enjoy Mabi much more than RO.

>> No.12809100,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>12808192
same here, but unironically

>> No.12809100,3 [INTERNAL] 

>>12808998
>ota is dead
LMA00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

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Anyone waiting for leikaRO (formerly aesir) to launch? We should probably make a guild or something ...

>> No.12809733

>>12809723
I kind of want to play it, but I'm on the fence because /vg/ seems interested in it too, which is a death knell.

>> No.12809750 [DELETED] 

>>12809733
/vg/ just wants to play ggro now.

>> No.12809827

>>12809723
I forgot about that. What's their homepage? I feel like playing afk hat simulator again.

>> No.12809828 [DELETED] 

>>12809827
It's leika-ro.net

>> No.12809851

I got the feeling of playing MMOs but I don't want to play alone.

>> No.12809865 [DELETED] 

>>12809851
Your /jp/ friends are here for you!

>> No.12809889

I play XIV in the /vg/ guild on Ultros. They're surprisingly all right but have a few epic memesters who try and circle jerk.

>>12803053

Are you joking? You still can't reliably pug T5, let alone T9 and final coil.

>> No.12809918

>>12809865
Which ones I'm I don't have any.

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>>12809723
Leika is up now, I'll see you if you decide to play, /jp/ees.

>> No.12809957

Well I'm playing World of Tanks if it counts. It's pretty boring starting out by myself, though. I thought about trying Archeage but I don't know how fun it's going to be to play alone.

>> No.12809963

>>12809957
What server are you in WoT?

>> No.12809964

>>12809963
EU.

>> No.12809973

>>12809964
Can't help you with that. Either get to tier 10 and statpad the hell out of your stats and try to get in the 4chan guild or go solo and be a lonely tonk.

Also Archeage is shit with its bullshit mechanics. Its practically p2p.

>> No.12809980

>>12809973
Soloing is fine, just kinda boring when you don't have at least one person to occasionally platoon with. I just really hate playing anything below T5. Hopefully there will be some worthwhile offer on the premium shop tomorrow with some rare tank and a bunch of gold so I can skip most of the T3-T4 grinding.

>> No.12810021

>>12809889
I pugged T5 (After 12 separate groups) and T9 (lost count after 20~ different groups)... I guess I just have a lot of patience.

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I'm waiting for some slots to open up so I can get married

>>12809889
>I play XIV in the /vg/ guild on Ultros.

you really should go back there then crossie

>> No.12810166 [DELETED] 

>>12810163

No thank you.

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>>12810166
>crossie lurking the thread waiting for responses to his post

top L

dead board dead community that's why there will never be a /jp/ guild again, this is neo-/a/ generals 2.0

>> No.12810183 [DELETED] 

>>12810174

Who are you quoting?

>> No.12810190 [DELETED] 

not only a crossie but also still trying hard to fit in by using ancient memes forced by dead tripshitters

lmaooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO[i/]

>> No.12810196 [DELETED] 

>>12810190
Why don't you just go back to the Kancolle thread where you belong, Lowercase Loser?

>> No.12810203 [DELETED] 

>>12810190

Here's the reply you want, friend.

>> No.12810223 [DELETED] 

>>12810196
>Lowercase Loser?

you know multiple people type like that right???? i thought this had been settled years ago

are you one of those neo-neo-post 2012-/jp/ types?

>> No.12810243 [DELETED] 

>>12810223
That's a great way to identify yourself as the person I'm talking about. Get dunked, son.

>> No.12810282 [DELETED] 

>>12810223
Are you really so analblasted that you took the time to reply to someone who called you a loser? This thread really is horrible.

>> No.12810282,1 [INTERNAL] 

LMAO what the hell happened here.

>lowercase loser
I like that, I'm going to steal it

>> No.12810282,2 [INTERNAL] 

the proper term is lowercase autist

>> No.12810282,3 [INTERNAL] 

>>12810243

that was my first time posting on /jp/ in months, so I'm clearly not the guy this crossie thinks I am

>> No.12810282,4 [INTERNAL] 

>>12810282,3
the hilarious thing here is that i'm the lowercase loser in the kancolle thread that he threw a screaming bitchfit about

every day i find a new and more impressive retard than the one before

>> No.12811623 [DELETED] 

>>12810196
i post in a wide variety of threads which hit pretty much every topic in the board except those which i have absolutely no interest in (like idols) or to which i cannot meaningful contribute (like dolls) and have been doing so for years

kill yourself back into whatever board you came from, you insufferable pedantic shit

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>>12805782
(You), how have you been? Sorry I just kind of disappeared, I tried finding you for a while but you hadn't been around.

>> No.12814815

When peria chronicles comes out, will any of you actually strive to make content for it?

>> No.12814882

Anyone playing Pangya here? Does anyone know any other relaxing MMOs? Maybe a fishing MMO with cute girls?

>> No.12814896

>>12804267
I'm not a normalfag no.

You're not wrong in saying there's a fuckton of them in WoW these days, though.

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Autism simulator

>> No.12815287

>>12809945
>leika-ro.net
So who's playing on leika? I miss RO a bit and really want to play a priestess.

>> No.12815567

>>12815250
Kusoge simulator

>> No.12815700

Pick a game and I will rent a server.

>> No.12815723

>>12815700
How can you afford to do that, and how can you just say "any game"? I believe you, it's just interesting.

>> No.12815759

>>12815567
This is a mmo thread afterall

>>12815700
Space Channel 5

>> No.12815830

http://www.nfoservers.com/order-virtual-dedicated-server.php

Well the 4 cores aint that expensive, it may also be too much for a /jp/ server I don't know, I don't even know how tto use this but I can learn.

>> No.12815864

>>12806873
I play on ship 10 and 2. I'm still really low leveled and haven't played in a long while.

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>>12815287
I'm not playing on Leika anymore because the admins are clueless subhumans.

>> No.12816522

I tried TERA a few days ago. I got to level 15.
After seeing how it's instanced and how it has global chat, I didn't find it hard to quit.
I mean, a massive multiplayer game where people are separated by magical instancing? And where's the sense of distance if you have means to communicate with the whole server instantly?
Plus even that global chat was so slow. That made me feel the whole thing was deserted.
I just want my RO, damn it. Seeing all those people chatting in the main cities, asking for warp... interacting!
Seriously, what's the fucking point of instances? Where ARE people? What are they talking about? Where are the merchants selling handcrafted stuff? Where's the massive, the multiplayer, and the online? Only the second of those three you could get if you had a couple friends to play with. The massive is destroyed by instances, and the online means nothing if I could do the same with three friends and four gamepads at home.

ToS will save us, I'm sure. I have no option but to be sure.

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>>12801547
Ah I loved RO, not for the grind fest but because you had a big range of monsters to fight in your level range and you could really explore the world.
Just waiting for Tree of Saviour, I hope it will be good. RO2 (both of them) were big let downs.

>> No.12816590

Have you decided on that game yet /jp/?

>> No.12816593

>/jp/ considering Leika instead of ggRO

I knew you chumps were Renewal scum. Yeah, I'm among you. Keeping watch.

>> No.12816623

>>12816522
TERA's global chat was much more active a year ago. The global chat is actually some of the more interesting ones I've come across in MMOs.

>> No.12816649 [DELETED] 

>>12816593
nobody on /jp/ plays on lelkek now

>> No.12816659

>>12816593
One of those has the only competent developers left in the RO scene (by the way thank you Hercules people for pushing completely broken updates), while the other has a LoL e-celebrity and someone famous for being corrupt as the admins.
Thank you for still having some sanity left, /jp/.

>> No.12816695 [DELETED] 

>>12816659
>competent

The only competent one is Rikter, the rest write buggy scripts that he has to fix and are unprofessional as fuck in game.

>> No.12816726

Is Mabinogi a MMO where I could just complete chain missions, or is it a full blown erp 24/7?

Serious question.

>> No.12816743

>>12816726
You can play solonogi, but I think there still are 2 or 3 missions where you're forced to have a party.

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EKUSU KALIBA!

>> No.12817578

I'd really like to try out RO but I got no clue where to start.
Got some advice for me? Is the ggRO server a good start for a newfag?

>> No.12817584

>>12817374
Literally the only one of the weapons that looks good.
SE has dropped the fucking ball since 2.4 in terms of weapon design.

>> No.12817627 [DELETED] 

>>12817578
Play on the official server

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Are there any mmos with good pvp?

>> No.12818055

>>12816276
That is the reason I never played TERA or Scarlet Blade.

I'd play either of those if there was some private server with a cheerful and positive guy running them.

>> No.12818067 [DELETED] 

Do closed RAGUNAROK?

>> No.12818070 [DELETED] 

>>12818055
Did you get into contact with the admins/devs from TERA or scarlet blade?

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2ch is best TERA.....?

>> No.12818133

>>12818045
Space Cowboy/Airrivals, Eve

>> No.12818195 [DELETED] 

>>12818133
That looks boring.

>> No.12818201 [DELETED] 

>>>/b/586723102
follow the white rabbit

>> No.12818203

>>12801547
>godly OST
This is the only correct point that you mentioned.
The rest of them are pure bullshit and RO isn't fun.
It's mindless grinding like maplestory just to get +10 damage or 1 second less casting.
Priest has damaging spell like magnus exorcimus and holy light.

>> No.12818205

>>12803303
Gave up WoW and MMORPG a long time ago not because it sucks but because i don't want to spend weeks on gears threadmill.

>> No.12818232

>>12818195
>Space Cowboy looks boring
A game entirely about dog fighting looks boring to you?

What's good PVP to you anyway? If you don't want interesting fighting and just ganking, Eve does that. If you want fun fights, Space Cowboy does that. If you want combos and stuff go play fighting games.

>> No.12818237 [DELETED] 

>>12818232
Looks like you just have a fetish for airplane games.

>> No.12818249

>>12818237
That's not an answer. What do you want out of a PVP game? OR do you want the answer "no?"

>> No.12818258 [DELETED] 

>>12818249
fun pvp with characters and skills not airplanes

>> No.12818297

>>12818258
So then a fighting game?

Cosmic Break has characters and skills and is sort of an MMO. The PVP is okay.

>> No.12818300

>>12818232
>that game
>"dogfighting"

there's nothing dogfighting about that game. it's a shooter, instead of a human model, it's a ship model. if you actually wanted dogfighting you'd be playing warthunder

>> No.12818304

>>12818300
What's that? That World of Warplanes clone?

>> No.12818329

>>12818304
>clone

WT came out long before wowp and it is a superior dogfighting game, if you lean more on the simulator side of things. Though it has an arcade mode too.

>> No.12818377

>>12818329
If you lean on the simulator side of things you probably won't like it too much either, though. But I enjoy it. At least in the low tiers. In the high tier the fun plummets hard. Like I want to play a WW2 game facing up against Korean War era jets or want to play in a tank with a 50 mm gun against an onslaught of nothing but heavy tanks.

>> No.12818385

>>12818377
depends on the heavy tank you're talking about, 5cm is a good solid tank gun, especially on a mobile platform like PzIII

>> No.12818401

>>12818385
The PzIII was my favorite tank in the German tree. But when I got to tier III with it and had to constantly face an enemy team with over half of their tanks being everything from KV-1s to IS-2s it just stops being all that fun. I'd like a special event where they have only a limited number of each type of vehicle that people can fill out per match. Like only two heavy tanks, 8 medium tanks and four light tanks. In order to keep things balanced. Doesn't really work well with the unlock system though.

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From time to time I play WoT but at higher ranks the game gets so p2w is suffering.

>> No.12818427

Arena games are not MMOs. Do not discuss them until they do the combining that makes it one giant combined operations battle.

>> No.12818438

>>12818427
we /jp/ers do not distinguish netoge on the basis of whatever your definition of ``mmo'' is

>> No.12818443

>>12818070

Yes. On Scarlet Blade they said they'd make "unnoticable" changes to the Sentinel because she was a short 18 year old girl that could potentially be seen as a child if you ignored all facts and twisted it as much as possible. And you don't need to have to deal with that, right? Turned out the "unnoticable" changes were to cover her entirely in gray and call her a robot. Complaints were made and they backed off a little. They allowed some parts of her robot exterior to be skin colored, but she still had to have hexagons to show it was a robot on her naughty parts and here and there to show it was not censorship, it was artistic design changes. So now the game had a robot wearing underwear to cover her not existing spots. Still charging the same amount as the nudity on other classes.

And on top of charging, their method was to let you buy gacha boxes for 250 dollars a week to be allowed to win a free vanity item for having spent so much money. Which pretty much translated into everyone needing to pay 250 dollars a weel, or 1000 dollars a month to enjoy nudity in a nudity centered game. There was a 500 pages long feedback thread stating the whole thing was insane and would make people quit. But since it was "only" 100 unique posters, they brushed it off as "just the same people complaining".

As far as I know, majority dropped the game but Aeria was still happy because the few rich idiots still spent 2000+ dollars a month on the game and it was enough for them to run minimal effort server management.

But yea, if you don't mind stupid censorship or nudity in a nudity game, the F2P was pretty ok. Just that it had no longer anything unique to offer that not 100 other titles has.

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>>12818443
That sounds terrible. I despise tryhard politically correct sjw jewish devs. But I hate edgy unprofessional subhumans holding a position of power just as much.

>> No.12818480

>>12818070

As for EME, that was a real rollercoaster. Started with complaints about Elin censorship. But they wouldn't budge. Petitions were made, but they were ignored because "It is impossible to gauge interest on the internet because people will cheat", even though the censorship was a decision done because of 2-10 people's opinions. Best part was that Elin haters got to post as much as they wanted, but pro-Elin posters got constant thread locks because "Someone could take offense if you write that you like Elins" (in contrast to nobody taking offense when told they are disgusting scum abusing children).

I managed to contact the CEO and ask him 4 questions about the censorship. He was kind enough to make a sticky thread to answer my four questions with "We are censoring Elins. End of discussion, now shut up."

Later they added swimsuits uncensored and I took the opportunity to both congratulate them for stopping with censorship, and telling them this is proof the censorship never was needed and it would be nice if they could undo it. I did however complain about the 25 dollar rip-off for one piece Elin suits, which they defended with "no other race has them, so we can charge whatever we want as a bonus item for Elins".

The same week I was about to sign up and play for the swimsuits, even though they were overcharging, I got banned on grounds of "never contributing". No warning, even though it was in the rules that you would get 3 warnings before a ban. Minea had simply gotten personally annoyed with me and screwed in all rules to get rid of me.

Later I petitioned for a ban removal (1 year later), but was told by support that bans can not be undone because they are bans.

Overall, worst customer service ever. And they will never admit to being wrong or correct wrong doings.

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umm why was my post deleted

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>>12818480
Forgot a relevant image.

>> No.12818517 [DELETED] 

>>12818480
Sounds like you've been through a lot. I wouldn't trust a company that did the stupid "mmofo" marketing strategy to be even slightly intelligent.

>> No.12818557

>>12805517
Haven and Hearth was hilarious. The /tg/ village died out almost instantly.

The Russian and Poles hated each others guts and was no go territory for everyone.

/v/ hated us.

>> No.12818797

>>12818438
kill yourself

>> No.12818881

RO is the best game because it has naked enemies of all ages and no one complains.

>> No.12819004

>>12818517
I was hoping to find good private servers. But it is a bit tricky also. For example one I was hoping to be finished were talking about putting all vanity gear at endgame bosses because to them it was meaningless and only works as gloating gear.

I don't know why there are nobody around running servers and understanding the joy of dressing up girls. Some doll owners clearly need to get into the MMO business.

>> No.12819075

>>12819004
While private servers sound good in theory, playing with like 3 dozen people is kind of pointless and boring. Even worse if they're altered to make whatever you previously had to work for easier to get. Might as well just mod Skyrim to have lolis and be done with it.

>> No.12819333

Did they ever fix Cosmic Break's scoring system to not be this arcane random seeming distribution of points?

>> No.12819636 [DELETED] 

I wish I could play a decent ragnarok server like jRO.

>> No.12819898

>>12816522
>That made me feel the whole thing was deserted.
Sounds like you played right before the big update which raised level cap hit. It's a lot more populated now, for better or worse.

>> No.12820383

>>12816522
>Seriously, what's the fucking point of instances?
Are there any MMOgames that use RO's system of open dungeons?

>> No.12821215

>>12819075
Actually bought skyrim only for the Elin mods. Then again I haven't played it at all since apart from the Elin models I can't see anything fun to do in the game.

>> No.12823522

>>12820383
This one will >>12800961
but it has really shitty graphics so a lot of people might not like that

>> No.12825960

So I'm trying to get jRO working. Of course their registration site blocks filthy gaijin, so I thought I would get a VPS, SSH into that with PuTTY, and run IE through an SSH tunnel.

After Vultr's Tokyo offering failed me (still got the message about non-Japanese IPs despite whatismyip.com confirming it was in Japan), I'm using Linode. Worked fine to register, and after I realized that IE was trying to download some sort of add-on when I log into GungHo's site and attempt to start the game (I'm not used to IE), the patcher is failing to download updates now.

Keep in mind I'm only used to iRO and never had to deal with this launch-from-browser bullshit or proxifying everything, so I'm pretty lost. I thought the proxy was only needed to register and not for actually playing, so the game shortcut launching GungHo's webpage in IE and needing me to log in there to launch the game patcher seems odd, and then the patcher failing to download a file isn't filling me with a lot of hope.

>> No.12829438

ToS soon.

Doubt anyone can even play in Korea anyway, CB is ultra restrictive.

>> No.12829506

>>12829438
There's also the question of it being IP blocked or not in Korea(most likely).

JP version when?

>> No.12829754

>>12829506
Not until after Maplestory 2 is firmly released in all regions. Cant let any other MMOs threaten Nexon's cash cow.

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>>12829754
>MapleStory 2

>> No.12829844

>>12829783
You really think Nexon is going to give as much support to any other of their games?

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is there anyone who wants to play an mmo?

I want to meet new people and have fun

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>>12829846
I want to play an mmo, but I can't right now because I don't have a computer.

>> No.12829869

>>12829846
what game

>> No.12829879

>>12829869

I don't really care

>> No.12829893

Does anyone want to be alone together in gikopoi

>> No.12829981

>>12829893

I don't know what that is

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I'm playing Age of Wushu. It's really confusing and there's almost no information about it online, which actually makes it more interesting to me. I haven't had an MMO genuinely confuse me with how much shit was going on in it since I first tried to play an MMO during my tender underaged years.

The gameplay is pretty fun though, and it doesn't seem p2w so far. All in all, I'm having a good time.

>> No.12830112

>>12829893
What will we do alone?

>> No.12830128

>>12829893
>gikopoi
>almost 2015

Do you also want to go to habbo hotel and go troll some kids with afroamerican skins, fag.

>> No.12830133

>>12830128
>afroamerican

Excuse me, but that is terribly racist. Not all backetball americans have afros.

>> No.12830153

>>12830133
You're not excused.

>> No.12830174

>>12830128
No but as a reference to that timeframe I'd like to play UO on a non-sperg private server and Gunz on a non-dead server.

>> No.12830273

>>12829783
What's wrong with MapleStory 2? It's no Tree of Savior, but it still looks pretty fun.

>> No.12830301
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>>12830273
This is getting really shitty now.

We should stop for now, 11yo are paying attention to our discussion.

>> No.12830325

>>12830301
O-Okay.

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>>12829846
hi dude wanna play ?

>> No.12830600

>>12830174
Is Gunz2 in English yet?

>> No.12830856

Remember when /jp/ played Eden Eternal? We had a guild, I personally gave a third of the ingame money to get it...

Remeber when /jp/ played H&H? The village was raided and only a few of us hermits survived, living on low quality settlements waiting to be murdered

Those were my good /jp/ days, I want them to come back...

>> No.12830909

>>12830856
time to move on, those days are over

>> No.12830922

>>12830909
you say that like you want it to be over

>> No.12830980

>>12830856
we just have to play some games together to make them come back

it's not that hard

>> No.12830985

>>12830980
oops, meant it for
>>12830909

>> No.12831257

Should I pick up FF14?

>> No.12831304

>>12830392

yes

>>12831257
if you like crafting or 8 man raid encounters then you should definitely try it

>> No.12833003

http://mmoculture.com/2014/12/mevius-final-fantasy-screenshots-revealed-for-new-mobile-game/

3D!

>> No.12833003,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>12799451
I want to fuck a ffxiv any tips?

>> No.12833003,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>12833003,1
Yeah.. *WHIPS OUT DICK*

Just the tip.

>> No.12833003,3 [INTERNAL] 

>>12803303
Right now we are in the midst of the LK add-on, which is one of the best add-ons, everything that has come out over the last 5 years is not even close, but in LK the leveling is quite crap, so sometimes you have to use https://epiccarry.com/wow/

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