/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>12770794

So the night battle counts as the same battle as the day battle? It's as long as you don't move to a new node?

Thanks.

>>12770796
Yeah pretty much. After you are done battle on the same node just don't go to the next one or else they might die.

>>12770805

Thanks.

Just ran into my first enemy aircraft carrier, bit of a shock.

>>12770834
Did you just start playing?

>>12770841

Started on Thursday, yes.

shinano yet?

>>12770857
Ah alright have fun and remember the girl you started playing for will change.

>>12770866

>remember the girl you started playing for will change

Wait, what?

>>12770875
He's saying that your preferred girl will change from the one that got you into the game to another one.

This is pretty true for most TTK.

>>12770834

>>12770881

But.. but... I already got my girl and she's carrying the rest of my ships already.

Are there still TTK here who started from Summer 2013 playing this game?

>>12770885
Not for long anon.

>>12770881
>>12770901
TTK?

>>12770902

Why must you say such hurtful things, she will stick with me forever.

>>12770906
It's ok to be new, everyone is new at some point of time. But, I suggest you to lurk more instead of posting everything you have in mind.

The other OP was better.

>>12770934
This one has more posts now. You're going to have to live with it.

>>12770934
>being butthurt because the OP image
never change /jp/

It's funny that I recognize the other three but not Fubuki.
>>12770934
Janitor deleted the one with less posts. It's people fault for not migrate into the better thread.

>>12770957
How was the other thread better?

>>12770943
>>12770959
It had more information.

Previous Thread: >>12760132

[New to the Game? Read first, Ask later]

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http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Kancolle_Wiki
FAQ / Tutorial is under "OPERATION" Tab

Japanese Wikis:
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http://www56.atwiki.jp/kancolle/

Kancolle Staff Twitter:
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Anime (2015 Winter):
Webpage: http://kancolle-anime.jp/
1st Anime PV: 艦隊これくしょん -艦これ-　先行PV第壱弾
2nd Anime PV: 艦隊これくしょん -艦これ-　先行PV第弐弾
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PSP Vita (2015 Spring):
Webpage: http://kancolle-vita.com/
PV Trailer: 艦これ改 First Trailer

News:

- Furutaka Kai Ni (Level 65 - 480 Ammo & 380 Steel )
- Several ships get Christmas-themed voice lines
- Special Type DD gets a Kai Ni
- Shirayuki & Hatsuyuki get new voice lines
- CA Sisters gets a Kai Ni
- Jukebox Updated
- New Furniture released and old furniture makes a return
- New quests (Sortie, Monthly, and Carrier Kidou Butai)
- Akashi no longer in 1-5 but you can still get her in 2-5
- 41cm Twin Gun can be modded with Mutsu as Flagship
- TYPE-MOON x KanColle Event(TBA)

>>12770961
I've been coming to these threads for a long time. Seems like if the thread is good or bad people will bitch about it no matter what.

>>12770965
It's tradition.

>>12770970
It's stupid.

>>12770965
It was never a problem when Abyssfag was the only one spamming new threads to push his own preferences, but then the bump limit autist appearing and Harunafag jumping on the bandwagon made it unbearable.

>>12770979
>tfw got haruna and wanted to use her
>harunafag appears and makes me like haruna less

>>12770992
Not our fault you're such a weak minded fool to like someone less because of one faggot.

I could stand to be comfier. I need furniture fairies badly.

>>12771004
>All that white

If only my eyes could discharge more than tears.

>>12771004
Agano truly is the definition of comfy.

>>12771012
I haven't LSC'd Noshiro , who I'd prefer to be in this.

>>12770934
>>12770957
It's fine, I'm at fault as well for being slow with the post. I was checking it and rechecking it to see if I was missing anything or if I messed anything up.

>>12771019
Please make the next thread when its time, I liked it.

>>12771019
I wish the janitor would exercise a little more caution when clearing excess threads. It sets a poor precedent when properly made threads with updated information are deleted in favour of straight copy-paste OPs with a random image slapped on. 17 posts wasn't a particularly big price to pay for an OP that would be carried over for future threads, now that information is more or less lost as the odds of being there at the exact time to start a new thread before the spammers is slim to none.

>>12771000
well does it help I've seen plenty of doujins as well?

>>12771000
It you fault for like slut

>>12771030
If I'm around when it happens.

>>12771045
It's okay, really. The info isn't really lost. I keep it on a sticky note and edit as news happen. I've simply wasted my chance

What do you guys use to clear the 3-3 weekly? I need a couple more screws.

>>12771057
Pretty sure harunafag will make the next one

>>12771066
And it will probably be deleted, thankfully.

>>12771067
Not if janny is the harunafag

>>12771065
Do 3-5

>>12771087
3-5 works for it?

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm25062161
What the fuck?

>>12771091
Yes

>>12771105
Well that's significantly less compass trolling, thanks.

>>12770866
kuso ttk
the girl I started playing for never changed

What do you guys prefer for your BB/CAV artillery spotting setup?
2 main guns + recon plane and
air radar or surface radar or red shell (or green shell for CAV) or other (please list)?

>>12771157
+10 FP fastattack planefixing thingamabob on CAVs, redshell for cutin on BBs.

Type 33 (still don't have 32 after over a year of play) if low level.

>>12770934
fuck off shill

>>12771173
Damn, I'm actually more excited when I craft a type 33.

Why is it so hard to obtain a second whale?

>>12771277
I have the same problem, won't have Ryuuhou until I get and train the second.

>>12771307

Shit himeuta attention whore production

>>12771277
But I have four.

So has 4chan changed how it works? I remember always ending up on the archived thread after page 10 for every thread, until the latest 3-4 threads that were 404.

With all the shit OP battles, I makes me worry we got a new one who always deletes the old thread to force move people to a new one even if we are only on page 8 or so. I miss the good old days when people didn't care about posting an OP picture and just wanted to spread the kancolle news in the OP.

And still not maxed. God damn, she's stronk

>>12771314

Well, we've got one of the worst moderations in the whole internet

>>12771317
You're almost there. An anon posted one with max AA and I think it was somewhere in 140.

>>12771322

max AA is 116 with 3 Akizuki guns it reaches 146.

>>12771317
>>12771322
Checking the wiki 2hard4u?

>>12771325
Checking wikiwiki is too hard for you?

>>12771327
What does wikiwiki say? And anon posted one with max AA and it's somewhere in 140?

So has anyone figured out who the CA sisters getting Kai-2 are?

>>12771334

Most probably Nazi and Wolf.

>>12771335
That's possible, but couldn't it be the Takao sisters just as well?

>>12771334
I would prefer Suzuya and Kumano

>>12771335
>>12771342
>>12771343

Whoever are I'll be happy as long as they are CA(V)s.

Though I want Mogami class Kai Ni.

>>12771334
No we haven't.

>>12771334
Aoba and Kako.

>>12771342
Imagine if they bring us the four Takao-class kai nis at once.

>>12771349

I hope Aoba got a high amount of luck.

>>12771349

Oh shit no, no more useless Kai Ni's.It's even worse because you only level then for the equips and later abandon then like Furutaka Kai Ni.

>>12771349
Sisters

>>12771352
I'd be poppin' open a couple bottles

>>12771356
She'll have 400 LOS but pathetic stats otherwise

>>12771343
>>12771344
Kinda curious if Kumano'll get something interesting, given her bombed out haul back home.

>>12771277
I've been hunting for my first one for like 4 months. I spammed E1 at the last event with no luck. Back to 2-5 grinding, please end my suffering.

>>12771352
I'm not sure if I can handle all the fuel tanks, well except for Choukai of course.

>>12771392
Try 5-2 sometimes.
Took me half a year at 2-5 and 100+ buckets at E-1 before she drops and then a second one drop right away at 5-2.

Which recipe are you guys using for radars? My recent results with 10/11/251/250 were depressing.

>>12771359
Well fuck you too, Kako did more for my fleet than any other CA.

Fall E4, Fall E5, AL maps, she'll beat them all.

>>12771399
The one you posted is the one I use. I have only been crafting for the daily for about 3 months. 6 type 33s, 9 type 32s.

>>12771399
Always 20/20/250/250 with a CV flagship.

>>12771399
It has a low success rate.
I've done it about a 100 times (BB flagship), and I might have gotten maybe 4 Type-32s and 6 Type-14s, with a flurry of the smaller ones.

>>12771399
Is there a bigger list of this picture?

>>12771398
I will give it a try, thanks.

>get butthurt for posting Abyss
>get butthurt for posting Haruna
>posting Eugene is fine, she is my waifu11!!!4
kek

>>12771417
You don't have to care. You are not even from here. Now fuck off to where you came from.

I just had one of the most scary nightmares in my recent memory.

I was on a vacation to Okinawa with a bunch of friends. I had brought my Mutslugs with me in a pail filled with loosely packed sand, just the way how they liked it. They were only about 1~2 cm in size and really fucking adorable.

Since it was an Okinawa vacation, of course we were on a beach. I was having a relaxing, pleasant time, and so were my Mutslugs.

Then it happened.

One of the guys pacing about while chatting with me, backed into the pail--with quite the force, enough to leave a dent nearly as deep as the radius of the pail.

It was a frighteningly gruesome end for my Mutslugs in there. Really really vivid and gory.

I won't go into details, but if you've ever seen some of the Yukkuri abuse shit. I used to laugh about those, because Yukkuries are decidedly fictional, but I don't think I'll be able to do that from now.

This happened only two hours into the sleep, so I'm going back to sleep. Night, admirals.

>>12771394

I shouldn't have laughed that hard.

>>12771424
Night, you really need some rest.

>>12771422
Your fallacious argument doesn't disprove my point.

>>12771417
Baiting actually requires effort. Suggest you give it some.

>>12771407
>>12771409
>>12771411
59 20/20/250/250 attempts, 91 10/11/251/250 attemps, with Taihou (sometimes Yamato, Musashi, Unryuu) and I only got 5 T14, 4 T33 and 1 T32. And recently it's penguin most of the times. So it's kinda depressing.
>>12771412
No. That's a common recipes list an anon made months ago.

>>12771432
It's not even an argument.

>>12771424
>vivid and gory
I'm surprised it didn't end with a bang.

>>12771438
You may want to try 100/300/251/250 with a BB. At least you'll get 46cms as a consolation prize.

In fact, you'll probably get more 46cms than radars. I think I'm at 25 46cms and 0 T32s now, although I do have half a dozen T33s and another half-dozen T14s.

So when are they finally gonna get off their ass and release nai ni of the two best Myoukous?

>>12771550
When people will stop requesting them.

>>12771550
Already happened.

>>12771307
>Negator
Okay, I chuckled. List would make sense if other entries were equally wrong.

>>12771429
Why ice cream?

>>12771307
Absolutely bullshit.

>>12771065
3 CA 1 BB 2 CV always works for me.

Wow, 30 times 4/6/7/2 20 Prinz trying for Bismarck, and the best I got were 2 Maruyus.
LSC is a hard momma.

>>12771307
Yeeaaaaah no.

>>12771065
3CLT 3CVL

>>12771307
>haruna
HURRRRRRna

>>12771399
10/11/251/250 4x per day for almost 3 months now, and I only have 3 14s, 2 32s and 1 33. Radars are impossible to craft.

>>12771775
You fucked up, place Z1 Z3 and prinz in that order.

「第六戦隊」南西海域へ出撃せよ！

Fuck this quest. Or fuck me for not leveling Kako and Aoba.

>>12771818
It's easy, just kai them. 4CA 2CAV

>>12771822
That's what I'm trying but someone always gets red on the first not closing salvo. I have not kaid them though, so time to go back to pvp for a while

>>12771818
It's easy, just kai them. 4CA 1CAV 1CLT

>>12771809
What's this ship order nonsense?
[cit. needed] or btfo

>>12771860
That's how I got my bismarck :^)

>>12771864
There's also people claiming to have gotten themselves a Bismarck with a Fusou, without even having completed Z1 quest.

LSC is just a damned curse.

>>12771876
>There's also people claiming to have gotten themselves a Bismarck with a Fusou, without even having completed Z1 quest.
Who?
So are there people claiming they got Yamato from normal construction too?

>>12770881
Came for Shoukaku, stayed for Ryuujou/Sendai

Light cruiser

Any advice for consistent S rank flagship leveling in 4-3? Currently using:
DD - depth charge, sonar x2
BB - main x2, ap, recon
CA - main x2, recon, radar
2CVL - green, blue x3
CL - sonar x2, radar
It's working okay, but I feel it could be improved.

>>12771900
Yes
There are also people that claim Nagato from all 30

>>12771966
1DD(full ASW) 2CL(trash sonar/depth charge+recon) 1BB(3 red guns radar) 2 non-ASW capable exp leeches. 100% S rank, as long as flagship won't miss. F5 at J.

>>12771984
100% MVP, I mean, it's impossible not to S rank those nodes.

>>12771984
>>12771990
I'm trying not to F5 at J due to fatigue reasons, but maybe it's not too big a deal. I'll try switching up my fleet/equipment though.

>>12772005
You don't have something to waste 10 minutes for? Not F5'ing J is extremely retarded move even by the standards of the thread.
You also have 1 too many ASW capable ships. No more then 3 for pretty much guaranteed S rank, else you're fucked if you encounter 4 sub formation.

>>12772014
> guaranteed S rank
Fucking MVP, not S rank. God damn it.

Oh, and daylight double attacks are absolutely forbidden since they would steal MVP every time they activate.

>>12771965
those healthy child-bearing hips

>>12771966
DD - best ASW setup, flagship;
CL x2 - 2x red gun 1x sonar or 2x low quality sonar/depth charge 1x red gun. Personally I prefer the former;
BB(V) - 1 main gun, 3x radar or similar setup which prevents her from performing DAs and attacking submarines;
CA - 2x red gun, recon, radar (optional, you can replace a CA with something else, but she's great for J node);
CV(L)

I do not refresh @ node J, retreats are really rare and it's usually free EXP. Rotate your ships at medium damage. Repair them overnight (docks+Akashi) so you don't waste buckets.

>>12772066
Forgot to add - 3x fighter, 1x bomber on carrier.

Fucking finally.

>>12772102
See you tomorrow.

>>12772111
>tomorrow
1 hour

>>12772102

Damn. I wanna see mine as clean as yours one day.

>>12772122
I once had that dream, but these days quests are introduced faster than I can clear them.

>>12772122
I had it once before, but I'll have to wait until I get Nagato before I see it again.

What is this?

http://blog.livedoor.jp/kancolle_bot/archives/1002874120.html

Let's do our best this week as well!

>>12770885
My girl is carrying my child.

>>12772341
you need help
urgently

So /jp/, which ship is the most kakkoii ship?

I'm going with Kiso

>>12772368
>kakkoii
Girls don't need to be kakkoii.

>>12772341
I think those are my childs, she fucked me when you were away.

>>12772254
Fast track to a ban.

>>12772341
will tenryuu ever get a kai ni?

>>12772368
There's no competition.

>>12772412

I know that it is a bot but what it does?

danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1653491

>>12772415
All bots for KanColle automate in-game actions. This can include sending out expeditions, running sorties, etc. There are two ways this is achieved.

The first is by simulating the network traffic the game normally generates and transmitting this data to DMM's servers. This is something DMM usually picks up on pretty quickly as all they have to do is change the way the game transmits data to detect this. There's some more technical aspects to it, but in general, it's a quick ticket to getting banned and it's how KCB works.

The second is by simulating mouse movement and clicks to play the game with an automated set of mouse commands. This can be virtually undetectable by DMM if done right or at least, it's not something they've been known to ban for. This is what most scripters are using.

>>12772445

So that bot I linked to is an automated mouse commands script, but for what?

>>12772448
Read what I wrote again. The bot you linked to is called KCB, it works via the first method and does what I stated in the very first sentence.

Love cannot be automated.

>>12772456

You never mentioned the bot I linked a part of the first group. You just listed the 2 type of bots that are available for Kancolle. That's why I asked.

>>12772463
Since experience points and love are related, I'd say it can.

>>12772469
Love depends on many other factors, not only EXP.

>>12772476
It's the only thing you need to make them fall for you and marry you.

>>12772466
It's at the end of the second paragraph.
>it's a quick ticket to getting banned and it's how KCB works

Your linked page has the name of the bot at the top of the page, so I assumed you at least knew what it was called.

>KanColleBot

>>12772484

I never knew it was KCB

inb4, it's on the page you linked.

I don't like to assume stuff that quickly

Poor girl, forgotten like Kinugasa.

>>12772493
Like any useless girl. Nothing to feel sad about.

>>12772488
Now you know. Also, in case it wasn't clear, I'd advise staying away from KCB. It has a bad reputation for a good reason.

I hope that answered your questions.

>>12772505

Thank you very much for your ansers. I'll certainly keep away from it.

>>12772483
Poor girls just assume that the person who trained them to max level and gave them a wedding ring actually cares for them. They cannot check if you're a botting faggot or not.

Just use AHK like a normal person.

>>12772511
Scripting is for faggots.

>>12772513
How many TTK actually use this?
Do nip players bother with scripting or are they just all NEET?

>>12772527
Its update is posted regularly in 2ch, so at least there is demand for that.

>>12772463
But you only need some girls for their equipment, there is no love necessary.

What are the pros/cons to using light carriers in contrast to full sized carriers?

>>12772573
Light carriers are only useful for their lower consumption, ASW and some map requirements.

>>12772573
Cheap but paper thin armour.
Personally I just go with Unryuu+Akizuki, you don't need Kaga to clear your skies everyday.

>>12772580
>Akizuki
She has nothing to do with AS

>>12772573

There is only one light carrier that is better than some CVs, Junyou Kai Ni. That's why her remodel level is 80, even higer than Hiryuu and Soryuu Kai Ni.

Otherwise, it's just as the anons above have stated.

>>12772606
On this notion. Do we know how air cut-in works? Is it possible that it's applied before calculations for air superiority?

>>12772648
>applied before calculations for air superiority?

That much has been proven to be correct since sometimes you can get air superiority with only a seaplane on a CAV against a Nu Elite if Akizuki cut-ins.

What we don't know is i how effective it is.

>>12772670
I really hope it can be improved with luck-maxing and formations. Akizuki is pretty brutal as she is but if we can upgrade her to cut-in all the time, carriers may get a use apart from being green mules.

I'd really like if they upgraded diamond so it increases anti air defense but also boosts carrier-damage.

>>12772648

Yes. A cut in subtracts X amount of enemy air superiority and destroys the planes. So, you can still win air superiority or even supremacy with an inferior force, so long as the cut in triggers.

Example:
>Your AS: 100
>Enemy AS: 120
Normally you wouldn't get air superiority.

Now let's say Akizuki cuts in and nips off 60 of their AS. (I don't know if this is a possible number, this needs more research and is just for illustration)
>Your AS: 100
>Enemy AS: Now 60
And you get superiority.

Also I've heard of her killing all the planes on a carrier and the carrier not being able to launch attacks post cut-in, but I haven't seen it, so take it with a grain of salt maybe.

>>12772695
>Also I've heard of her killing all the planes on a carrier and the carrier not being able to launch attacks post cut-in
It happens often in pvp if you destroy all the bombers.

>>12772695
I have seen that happening. But that can happen without Akizuki as well if you have sufficient AA.

>>12772695
Her cut in is sufficient to shut down CVLs in PvP.

>>12772624

Ryuujou kai ni can also be pretty fuckin meta for a CVL if you give her the right equips, like if you're lucky enough to have a SCAMP.

Her overall plane count is meh but she's got the largest single slot. It's 18,28,6,3, so if you fit her out like so:
- (free space for what you might need for the mission, like an ASW plane)
- Reppuu
- Saiun
- SCAMP

It won't matter that the 6 and 3 slots are taken up by your spotters and SCAMP, she still gets the same exact T-cross prevention and spotting bonuses, you have a shitload of fighters that are powered up by the SCAMP, and you're only missing out on 3 planes out of her total count.

Also flat is love.

>>12772743
>shitload of fighters that are powered up by the SCAMP
What?

>>12772691
> boosts carrier-damage
Are you really sure about this?
not-yorktown.jpg

>>12772743
You should have 2.
Also, how does it boost fighters? Unless you mean that +1 AA

>>12772776
With my cute Akizuki in tow, I'm not afraid of notkaga anymore.

>>12772624
How can junyou kai ni be better than CVs? She carries lesser planes.

>>12772780
You know E-4 was easy because of the low accuracy by and against combined fleets.

>>12772784
She has a better slot distribution though. So if you have to bring saiun, you lose less slots.

>>12772695
> Also I've heard of her killing all the planes on a carrier and the carrier not being able to launch attacks post cut-in
During my 1-4 clear both Wos were left without planes. Opening air strike and air control status still showed(complete denial) but no planes attacked my girls. It happened like this:
Air phase start=>Essex launch planes=>red sky status=>air cut in=>no planes on screen after cut in, no damage done in air strike=>no attacks during day.

>>12772743

Don't get me wrong, just look at the pic: Those are my highest leveled CV(L)s. But anything you described can be done better even by Unryuu or the Cranes.

>>12772784

Basically plane distribution and that godly evasion.

>>12772743
This sounds so wrong. She's basically useless for the aerial attack and weakened during the shelling phase because she only has one attack plane.

>>12772805
And by no damage done I mean not misses or scratches. Simply nothing, like opening air phase never happened.

>>12772797
You may lose less but at the same you still have less and that's what's important. Every single CV is equal or better in each slot.
Assuming Saiun, Jun'you has 18/20/24. CVs have 18/21/27, 18/20/35, 20/20/32, 24/24/24 or more.
No matter the situation, Jun'you is always worse than each of CVs. The only things going for CVLs are consumption, ASW and repairs. It's enough for them to be valid alternative to be honest.

>>12772810
>plane distribution
No better than any CV
>godly evasion
I don't really believe in this stat, but it's still nice to have.
She's pretty much only better than Akagi

>>12772856
>She's pretty much only better than Akagi
In what way? They have one equal slot, Akagi is better in other three. Jun'you has much more evasion but Akagi has much more HP and armor. Also, Jun'you loses in firepower to any CV except for Cranes which are basically equal. Jun'you is the best CVL, that's all. She is unable to beat or even match any of the CVs in any field CVs are used for.

>>12772842
>>12772856
Jun'you is slow too.

>>12772883
I was thinking more relatively to the other CV since Akagi's consumption really isn't worth her stats.
But yeah, in a 1v1 choice Akagi is better.

>>12772902
In that case - true. Akagi's consumption is too big. Kaga and Taihou are at least excused because they're hotels of CVs

Speaking of that, it would be nice if monsters like Yuudachi or Ayanami Kai Ni had increased consumption. It's unfair for Shimakaze, CLs, Aoba and Kako.

>>12772573
Light carriers are the loveliest.

>>12772984
Not that I'm complaining.

>>12772984
That sounds stupid and unnecessary. It's better to stay that way.

To be fair, Akagi's consumption is still lower than Kaga's, and she still has a well-balanced top tier stats aside from her largest slot not being the second largest anymore. Actually, I use her over either of the dragons for 5-5, because the dragons' 4th slot are too small to do anything on that map. (Well, that and my Akagi is married, so she actually uses less than the dragons).

>>12772984
CLTs need to be nerfed first.
>>12773048
It's not fair to the other DDs.

>>12773063
> It's not fair to the other DDs.
No, not really. The difference in performance between elites and non-Mutsukies is very minimal. Look at flag/kai armor values, see for yourself.

>>12773063
>asking fairness in this game

Topkek

>>12773079
A difference of 10 fuel would be minimal too. And no, the battle performance between them is quite huge.

>>12773079
73 firepower vs 49
93 torpedo vs 79
Those are huge.
Sendais got increased ammo consumption,only Ooyodo has higher out of CLs. It should be the same with DDs.

>>12773091
Shh, you'll summon the normal DD only guy.

>>12773091
> A difference of 10 fuel would be minimal too.
That's nearly double increase. Do you want Kongous to eat 200+fuel too? Too bad, you've already missed your fun.
> the battle performance between them is quite huge.
No it's not. Again, look at flag/kai armor values. Yuudachi or Fubuki, both would either one shot or do scratches the same opponents.
>>12773099
Yet against enemies they would usually fight(late model DDs, CLTs, CAs) that difference is minimal.

Not that other guy but I also want DDs to be better balanced, looking at you Z1/3.

>>12772670
I would like to see a video of this.

My own personal experience has shown that AA cut in does NOT affect air superiority, and everything I've seen leads to the same conclusion. It's possible that there are multiple types of AA cut in and some people are getting something that allows them to shoot down fighters before air superiority calculations are made, but as of yet I have never seen it happen.

>>12772695
You can kill the bombers of all ships and disable it from attacking in shelling, yes. There is a video on nico somewhere of a fleet shooting down all of CV hime's planes. However, you'll still probably need a sizeable fighter force (video achieved supremacy) and still luck out on which slots bombers are assigned to who, and then shot down at the 50% chance. Since AA cut in mechanics aren't well known, it's difficult to say if anything like the 50% chance is risen, or if the ship that cut in will target slots that weren't originally assigned to her, etc.

>>12773101
Come on now, Mutsukis are good enough DDs for anything you may require DDs for.

It's not like they're Maruyus.

>>12773143
My problem with him is that he, just like a whole bunch of other people here, tries to force his way of doing things down everyones throat while acting like he's superior.

>>12773143
Maybe, but you'd just be making it harder for yourself.

>>12773143
If that's how you feel, put your money where your mouth is and use only Mutsuki class DDs to clear the next event.

There's no better proof then just showing it firsthand.

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#艦これ

well fuck

>>12772624
SCAMP = aircraft crew?

>>12773132
Fighter planes can't be shot down with AA fire. I've never seen it happen when grinding. Model 62 Zero being a red plane somewhat supports this theory.
Air cut-in, from my limited experience with it(5-4-A grinding, 1-4 monthly clears) seems to destroy a flat number of planes, scaled with AA stat. Akizuki managed to knock out both grey Wos worth of planes at 1-4, while Harusame wasn't able to do so with the same set-up(2 maxed 10cm+director, 4 star 25mm triplet). At the same time at 5-4 both were able to wreck kai Nu to no attack plane status, albeit with air superiority.
>>12773157
That's not my way of doing things. I don't see me crying about everyone using elites either, I'm just pointing out simple math that elite DDs give little edge over normal DDs, and all those awesome stats on paper prove to be only marginally better then 49/79.

>>12773231

Fubuki Kai NI this 12

Also, CHRISTMASS NAKA FUCK YEAH! I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS MOMENT.

My highest levelled CVLs are Ryuujou, Hiyou and Zuihou.

Haven't touched Junyou due to high level remodelling.

Am I in trouble?

>>12773231
New voices for Hatsuyuki and Shirayuki, and X-max Naka-chan. Is that it?

>>12773245
Where does it says Fubuki?

>>12773256

Sorry, it doesn't. Got excited about Naka

>>12773234
Yes.
>>12773245
>Fubuki Kai NI this 12
No.

>>12773252
Naka Kai-ni and some other shipgirl(s) are getting Christmas art.

>>12773239
Then you obviously aren't the person I was talking about.

>>12773246
Trouble for what?

Anyone unfortunate here to subject themselves to /tg/'s Americanized Kancolle Quest?

>>12773246
Stop being paranoid, those are fine.

I cleared Summer E6 with RJ Kai ni and a level 35 Hiyou because everyone else was locked.

Hiyou ended up level 65 or something though.

>>12773287
I hid it the moment I saw it. I never liked how much /tg/ enjoyed FREEDOM and it's deviates like HFY!.

>>12773245
What will Santa Idol k2 look like?

>>12773328

I expect Bob's greatest sprite for this one

>>12773328
Beautiful. Always bet on Bob.

>>12773328
They'll keep the same sprite.

>>12773304
E-fame and quests are a toxic combination. They all want to be the next Hussie.

Is your Naka ready for her Kai Santa?

Keep getting rekt by the first node in 2-4 what should I do?

>>12773442
Yes.

Reminder that today is Jintsuu's launch day and you should at least sortie with her.

>>12773491
Modernize your girls.

>>12773501
I have no more wrenches or whatever they are

>>12773491
Get better planes, bring CLTs. When I attempted 2-4 my ships were in their late 20's and in their 30's.

If you bring more CLs and DDs you'll need to go line abreast to stay alive until the boss node.

>>12773512
What? You only need other girls to modernize, read the wiki.

>>12773500
Okay.

>>12773517
Shit so I pretty much have to grind 2world till I hit late 20s?

>>12773500
Fine, I'll let her lead 1-4 monthly fleet.
Also, congratulations!

>>12773528
And try to get better ships.

>>12773528
Do more PvPs. When they remodel, start modernizing them. The wiki should be able to tell you about both of those.

>>12773537
>>12773538
Alright thanks guys. I'll try to create some more ships/grind the ones I have currently

>>12773500
Were you the one waiting for that perfect moment?

>>12773442
I don't even have Naka-chan. I've been meaning to finally keep Jintsuu and Naka and level them up to kai ni so Sendai isn't alone but god if I'm not lazy.

>>12773558

Yes.

>>12773587
Congrats, now go wear her out

>>12773500
no, expeditions are good enough for her

How did anon observe Pearl Harbor today?

>>12773612
shitPosting on /jp/, /a/ and /ghost/

>>12773612
I did my dailies while eating cake.

I hope there's an event soon enough.

>>12773612
I sunk my carrier duplicates in 5-5.

>>12773612
I worked my ass off in a foggy day. Cool shit.

>>12773612
I thought about going to Pearl Harbor to see if there are any JMSDF ships in port, but said fuck it and stayed home to watch chinese cartoons and play with my ship girls.

>>12773612
What's Pearl Harbor? Is that an american thing?

>>12773720
It's what got America into WW2.

>>12773720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK8gYGg0dkE

So first large construction I do is get this. I'm guessing it's pretty common?

>>12773873
Enjoy your +Luck material.

>>12773873
http://unlockacgweb.galstars.net/Kancollewiki/viewCreateShipLog?sid=163
up to 15%, so yeah, pretty common.

Anyone have good wallpapers of kanmusu's?

>>12773908
Kanmusu's what? Kanmusu's yandere moments?

>>12773937

I want my entire base of kanmusus to go yandere. The rape would be magnificent.

>>12773957
Let us devise of a way to make this happen.

Kancolle: Paradise Arsenal Quest is up on /tg/. Is anyone reading it? There's a lot of people in the thread! I didn't know that /k/ and /a/ are all over this quest too.

>>12773491
>first node
That's a whole new level of needing to git gud.

>>12774106
Fuck off.

>>12774113
Someone's mad that people are like things he doesn't like.

>>12774122
Please educate yourself in the proper English language before posting on this board.

>>12774113
Face it, your pure "canon" doesn't mean anything because your shipgirls only have a handful of throwaway lines with no story. That's hardly a personality or established idea of Kancolle as a setting to begin with.

>>12774113
If you're so mad go make your own quest.

>>12774113
>Not following the way I want it is TRIGGERING ME

why this game don't show your playtime?

>>12774161
Can you speak English?

>>12774169
a bit

Anyone have a picture of an admiral by himself?

>>12774177

>>12774177
That's not an admiral, that's a whoreslut.

I can hear the QM of Paradise Arsenal banging his fingers on his keyboard as Nagato and co. prattle like wooden puppets.

>>12774177
There are some.

>>12774197
You just have a shit taste, ESL-kun.

>>12774122
>>12774126
>>12774142
>>12774158

>that samefag

>>12774208
He's really hot

>>12774200
Please contain your game to your board.

So I just got back into my fleet after a long time, and my resources hit the cap.
Should I? I haven't tried it before.

>>12774340
See me after class, Duv.

>>12774340
Do it so we can all laugh at your kongous and fusous

Dux

>>12774340
Do it.

Don't be a pussy Dug.

What fleet comp do you guys use to get flagship MVP in 3-2?

>>12774450
BB + anything else but another BB with spotting.

>>12774450
Luckily I saved the info on that

Flag — 2 guns seaplane (radar if 4 slots)
2 other ships that will leech EXP — anything that would not allow them to do daytime double attacks. 2 guns 1(2) radars, 4 seaplanes/2 shit yellow guns 2 seaplanes on BBVs if you want second shelling phase.
CVL1 — reppu/3 trash planes
CVL2 — reppu/2 trash planes/saiun
Trash planes are important, if you opening air strike is too strong they'll start stealing MVPs. I like using aigroup trash from Dragons since I leveled 6 of them to 80.

2 battles, then rest for 20 minutes.

>>12774462
That's 5-4.

>>12774462
Reppuu

>>12774479
It seems to work just as well on 3-2-A. I simply made my 6th ship Maruyu

>>12774491
I prefer

Flag
BB
CVL
CVL
CVL
SS

for 5-4.

>>12774450
Flag
3/4 CVL filled with your worst red planes
BB/V if you are leveling CA/CL. fill with seaplane bombers + 1 shit red gun
Maruyu.

Preparation: sortie this fleet with another flag that's not your priority and let the other ships morale down to <20. Then swap in your true flag. Enjoy.

For 5-4, I'm currently leveling a BB, CA, and a DD / 2 CVL and ss for tank, and it's a smooth sailing until that faggot gold CA refuses to sink sometimes.

>>12774177
This is me. Mind you, I am a super strict admiral. No fun allowed.

>>12774857
I already want to bully you

>>12774177
Admirals are underappreciated.

>>12774177
One day I will retire and find a peaceful life in the mountains. But I can't leave my ship girls yet. They are my daughters.

>>12774931
Why don't you just bring them with you?

>>12774936
Ships can't go into the mountains, silly.

>>12774936
>bringing ships to mountains

>>12774943
Scrap them so they can go back to being normal girls.

>>12774943
Just bring the girl half.

Female admirals are only good for fucking. You need grumpy old men to have any kind of success.

>>12774954
Does the other half join the abyss?

>>12774976
kuso

>>12774976
Pls ojii-san, you are scaring the ladies away.

>>12774976
Mah nigga

>>12774857
>>12774212
>>12774931

Unbelievable. There are female admirals in the navy?

>>12775003
The navy isn't what it used to be.

>>12775003
Why not? Their performance on my capital "ship" is top notch, if you know what I mean.

>>12774976
I mean it did wonders for the Japanese during WWII, right?

>>12775018
Is "ship" your penis?

>>12775018
You whore them out?

>>12775021
Initially, yes, then their enemies copied them and they eventually lost.

Since I started using firefox I can't play Kantai. Don't know why. The "network error screen" is showing and I checked my inbox for ban messages but none. I am using VPN and it worked on Chrome and I have done all troubleshooting on the wiki.
Anyone else having different browsers problems?

>>12775021
USN had it's own share of mentally unstable old farts. Just take a look at Nimitz.
>>12775026
Of course, since they are not admirals in the first place, just kinky cosplay.

>>12775036
>Of course, since they are not admirals in the first place, just kinky cosplay.
Mah nigga

>>12775030
Use Chrome.

>>12775060
But muh botnet
Just wondered if any other people had simular issues.
Well I guess if it's for kantai-san then i'm fine with it.

>>12774177
Being an admiral is a serious business.

>>12775060
>joining the G-botnet

>>12775021
They only succeeded at initial onslaught and Pearl Hurdurr (which was clever sacrificial bait, IMO).

>>12775139
It's kinda funny that people hype Yamamoto as a naval aviation supporter when actually he was the same Tsushima fanatic.

>>12775162

Your ideas are mixed. Yamamoto was indeed a suupporter of the Kantai Kessen doctrine as most of the japanese navy high command. What really separated him from his colleagues was his utter support to a carrier doctrine, which most of his peers opposed. If Yamamoto would have had his way since before the war such innmense resource waste as Yamato and Musashi would have never been build. Instead the Japanese would have built more Shoukaku class and Unryuu class carriers.

>>12775181
My ideas are not. Yamamoto supported "reppu slave" type of naval aviation. Clean the sky from the planes, then move big guns to mop up opposition. His main resentment with Tomatoes that they were too slow for this. He also really fucking loved splitting forces into small elements, so naturally he wanted more smaller ships.

>>12775181
>>12775196
Do you guys know this Yamamoto person personally?

>>12775196
Reppuu

>>12775196

>Admiral Yamamoto was free of sch cant. Hee had opposed building the Yamato and the Musashi. In modern warfare, Yamamoto warned, a battleship would be about as useful as a samurai sword. He rejected arguments that torpedoes and bombs would bounce off the Yamato's thick armor plate. "There is no such thing as unsinkable ship" he argued. "The fiercest serpent may be overcome by a swarm of ants." Carrier based airplanes, he foresaw, would be the deadly swarm.

Source: http://books.google.es/books?id=G-bOZnz2At0C&pg=PA25&lpg=PA25#v=onepage&q&f=false

About the author: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Thomas

>>12775181
Their fleet was already built to BB centric doctrine so by the time CV power was fully realized, which was after Pearl, the japs neither have the time nor the resources to adapt so they just stuck with it. Add to that the japs being astonishingly inflexible they never really used their carrier forces to their full potential.

>>12775247

>If Yamamoto would have had his way SINCE BEFORE THE WAR

Also, do you think the US navy was any different? The love for battleships was equal on both sides befor the war. The big difference bettwen the japanee was that the carriers of the pacific fleet were spared from Pearl Harbour forcing the navy to rely solely on then since the beginning of the war and that the USN had a guy like Nimitz in charge who understood and supported naval aviation and the construction of fast carriers like the Essex class.

>>12775247

>If Yamamoto would have had his way SINCE BEFORE THE WAR

Also, do you think the US navy was any different? The love for battleships was equal on both sides before the war. The big difference bettwen the japanese and the americans was that the carriers of the pacific fleet were spared from Pearl Harbour forcing the navy to rely solely on then since the beginning of the war and that the USN had a guy like Nimitz in charge who understood and supported naval aviation and the construction of fast carriers like the Essex class.

>>12773587
Congratulations.

>>12775273
Since before the war though they were pretty much geared up for surface battle since most of their battleships have been ordered/constructed/under construction already. On the US side, they know that carriers have potential. It's just that some have doubts about it. And the US were rather quick to adapt, which is quite lucky for them since they can fully use the potential of their fast battleships that they were investing in for some time.

>>12775300

>On the US side, they know that carriers have potential. It's just that some have doubts about it.

The japanese had guys like Yamamoto too. The navy command of each country weren't monolhitic temples of each doctrine. There were old farts who supported surface fleet doctrine and the new guys who supported smaller vessels and the extensive use of air power on each side.

>the US were rather quick to adapt

You mean the US had the monstrous industrial capacity to build 24 Essex class carriers before the end of the war as well as many other CVs and CVEs. If I remember correctly the US had 64 CVs, CVLs and CVEs by the end of the war. And that doesn't include the ones that were sunk during the war.

Let's not forget, once again, about the figure of Nimitz

>>12775315
It still doesn't explain why the japs never fully utilized their carrier arm. I'd still say they're either inflexible, or the old guys words weigh more than their younger colleagues, or both.
But let's say they adapted a carrier doctrine. I still doubt they can reach the USN's level. Jap planes doesn't seem cut out for it.

>>12775327

>the old guys words weigh more than their younger colleagues

You said it. It became worse when the americans killed Yamamoto.

>Jap planes doesn't seem cut out for it.

At the start of the war they did have a technical advantage with their Zero and a tactical advantage with experienced pilots from the China war. The Zero was a fierce opponent throughout the whole war in the hand of a good pilot but what made the US aviators to achieve victory was the superior tactics and training they received. In contrast, the japanese training sytem was simply disastrous for a long war.

I feel like you are trying to bring this conversation toward the issue if the japanese would have won the war. I've never intended to discuss that and talking about virtual history seriously is allways an error. I'm only trying to point out the differences bettwen the Japanese and US navies high command, their doctrines and how they developed throughout the war.

>>12775345
It wasn't just the training and tactics though, it was the hardware they have. You could consider the Zero as the ultimate WWI fighter, but in WWII, where planes grew bigger and faster, it wasn't just the place for it. The problem why so many Allied planes fell prey to the Zero was that they tried to dogfight it, wherein their planes were more optimized for boom and zoom fighting, or energy-fighting. It's like taking a drag-race car to a drift competition. You could even say the F4F is slightly superior to the Zero if it weren't rather underpowered for its weight
And nah I'm not trying to bring this conversation toward the issue if the japanese would have won the war. I'm just thinking what could've happened if japs weren't that stupid back then since the Americans post Guadalcanal seemingly just steamrolled them.

>>12775354
>You could consider the Zero as the ultimate WWI fighter

Are you seriously comparing the Zero to a WWI fighter?

>>12775365
Why wouldn't it be? It was fast and highly maneuverable. It could do loops around the enemy and get behind it in the right moment, which every dogfighter of WWI era does.
If it's adversary, especially an American plane, started to dive though, it's another story.

>>12775382
>If it's adversary, especially an American plane, started to dive though, it's another story.

And how is it that the Zero couldn't do the same?

>>12775393

Or furthermore, prevent being attacked from upwards.

>>12775393
The Zero had lightweight construction, which gives it its tremendous agility and high rate of climb. Its American counterparts, were rugged and heavy as a result of all the protection they offer. As a result, the Zero was the better dogfighter, while American planes were better at energy fighting. Because American planes were rugged and heavy, it can dive faster and can leave a Zero on its trail. A Zero, because of its lightweight construction, would have to tear its wings off before it can follow its enemy in a dive. This is why most American planes at the start of the war, especially the Flying Tigers, would dive away to shake off a Zero on their tails.

>>12775354
> I'm just thinking what could've happened if japs weren't that stupid back
Even if they played smart usn would still steamroll them. usa could produce 13 ships in the same time it would took EoJ to build 1 ship, if it focused all it's industrial might on PacWar. And usa never focused on Pacific, it was secondary theater and far from being priority target. Forget about resources, Empire of Japan never had enough manpower to compete with lards. That it managed to last for 4 years is a miracle in itself.

>>12775405

Ok, the Wildcat shakes off the Zero from its tail. Now, how do the wildcat takes down the Zero?

>>12775454
It gains attitude, hides in the clouds, then boom'n'zooms it.

>>12775454
Exchange speed for altitude or exchange altitude for speed. These two should always be on the minds of fighter pilots. Since the Wildcat had already exchanged altitude for speed, it's up to the pilot what to do next. He could either exchange that speed gained for altitude or he could just go home. Like one Flying Tiger pilot said, one can make a decision using those. Either you engage him after diving away, or just go home and fight another day. Also this >>12775455

Ace of Hearts sure makes a great Kancolle Quest.

>>12775455
>>12775462

Then the problem doesn't lie in the plane but on the training of the american and japanese pilot since the japanese trainers would have developed a tactic to prevent that if they had a decent training program.

Or do you think that tactic would work flawlessly against the Zero?

>>12775512
The pilot is only as good as his plane and vice-versa. Their trainings emphasized using their planes to their full potentials. So of course, boom and zoom tactics were the bane of every Zero out there. A Zero can't do anything once a Wildcat dove. If their target dove, then the Zero could only watch or just wait for it to get back to altitude or find a different target. If a Zero is dived upon, then its only hope is to use its maneuverability to shake off the pursuer. If caught by surprise or if the pursuer managed to put the Zero on his sights, then its pretty much game over since a couple of quick burst is enough to down a Zero.

Posting my adoration for the carrier girls and hoping nobody here harbors a wartime grudge. I think that all the asspain Americans get every anniversary of Pearl Harbor is entirely over the top. I don't like that people were killed, but we are all humans and all our grandparents experienced a war that was hell on earth. Some more directly than others. We should never forget the pain that individuals like us went through in those years, and never forget that no side had "right" on their side.

>>12775526
Well, I just hope japs would stop whitewashing their history books. They kept spouting things like "These must not happen again!" but their books are empty of all the horrible shit they've done. While in the West people are probably aware of the hell people went through during those times, I don't think it's the same for your average jap.

>>12775526
Perhaps it is because i'm no murrican, but I always found that butthurt reactions towards Pearl Harbor completly stupid.

Sure, nips were cunning with this sneak attack, but it was still wartime, and they aimed for a military location.
The casualties are nowhere close to what happened with the fire bombing in Tokyo or the 2 nukes.

Makes me remember I couldn't help but lose hope on humanity after the women soccer competition and the kanto earthquake: even murican youngsters sweared on Pearl Harbor even though they have no fucking idea what they are talking about.

>>12775512
They fought against Ishaks/Chaikas in Chaina. fatlords used to dogfight Zero and Hayabusa in the first few months. It took some time for amerifats to adapt to energy/vertical fighting, and Japanese dismissed it altogether focusing on dogfighting. Third Reich was the only one who started the war with doctrine based on energy fighting.

You need
1) to be aware where the adversary comes from. It's really fucking hard to notice that someone's diving on you at 6 o'clock.
2) balls of steel. Panic hits hard when you see someone diving on you
3) perform spiral while barrel rolling or some other unpredictable maneuver
to counter boomzoom.
>>12775532
West hides it's own war crimes even better. I doubt there's stories about mass rape sprees conducted by glorious freedom fighters in France and Japan in american history books.

>>12775525
>>12775540

I know next to nothing about airplane tactics but I find it hard to believe a countertactic couldn't be developed against that. I mean, if murricans could find a reliable tactic to fight against the Zero why wouldn't the japanese be able to develop a tactic to fight against the Wildcats and later, the Hellcats?

Furthermore, you keep talking about 1 on 1 fights when most times fighters fought in squadrons in which each plane supported each other.

>>12775540
Where are you from?

Jintsuu is so fucking shit. I have no idea how people are able to train her to Kai Ni. She goes red every single sortie. Goddamnit. Even lv1 subs resist CLs better.

>>12775532
People in America don't learn about what we did unless you take college level courses with the exception of the bomb, which is considered to be a life-saving necessary evil. We never learn anything about the firebombing or the mud and blood unless we actively pursue the knowledge. The average American that I know (and I know people from many states) are all shocked and filled with either horror or stubborn patriotism when they learn about what our nation has done.

>>12775555
It would usually devolve into 1 on 1 dogfights once both squadrons have entangled with each other. Japanese aircraft tend to fly in 3 man formations which tend to fall apart in the heat of the battle. American aircraft flew in 4 man formations and this helps flying with a wingman easier.
Also, Japanese planes mostly don't have radios so they really cannot coordinate with each other in the heat of the battle. Americans have radios which is why they can coordinate with each other and is able to use tactics like the Thach Weave
>>12775574
You don't love her enough. My Jintsuu carried my escort fleet up to E5

>>12775555
Because there's no fucking counter. Just spinning randomly hoping you shake the diver's aim off(usually stalling and loosing control of the plane in process unless you're some kind of top gun), and that rarely works anyway.
To put it in layman's terms, there is no magical counter for a man armed with sword against a man armed with pistol. Dude with pistol will simply fill the other dude choke full of lead. War is no chess.

>>12775574
You don't need to waste your time grinding ships you hate.

>>12775574
You're a horrible person.

>>12775574
Yes she is. Pick another ship to love.

>>12775583
How am I supposed to beat events then?

>>12775577
Your usage of pronouns are really fucked up.

>>12775591
Use ships you love. Even Tenryuu can sink bosses just fine.

>>12775595
I don't know what to say other than that I definitely used everything correctly. You might not be used to someone shifting sentence focus often.

>>12775600
Heh, I just switched her for Tenryuu. For the record - I don't hate any of the ships, I'm just extremely disappointed with Jintsuu's performance - since lv 1 she's always the first one to catch crits. And yeah, I don't believe elites are necessary to beat events, got through last one with normal DDs.

>>12775608
I'll give you one.
>People in America
Suggesting that you are not from America
>what we did
Who the fuck is we here? Average amerifat? Americans who fought on the war? Did you go to the war? Or maybe, Japanese? Nobody knows where you came from and nobody cares.

>>12775574
Scrap her and train a new one to Kai 2.

>>12775581
You're full of BS.
Swords can cut down bullets.

>>12775540
>mass rape sprees conducted by glorious freedom fighters in France and Japan
Huh? I bet most bitches were willing to fuck for a pack of cigs or chocolate bar. If not - at least western liberators could give them something for sex.

>>12775643
The funniest thing is, most of those rape sprees were conducted by niggers, as evident by sudden rise in black population, so I doubt they had anything besides their dicks and rifles.

>>12775643
>I bet most bitches were willing to fuck for a pack of cigs or chocolate bar.
I watched this in fury, it must be true.

>>12775650
I thought niggers were only allowed to be tank loaders and other secondary shit, while white men gloriously fought on the frontline.
Well, I wasn't there anyway, but this may be the reason why I can't remember seeing any black actors in "Band of Brothers" and "The Pacific".
>sudden rise in black population
That's because they gave free citizenship for people from black colonies and, unsurprisingly, shitton of niggers migrated to metropole.
>>12775656
Nah, that's an actual fact, German troops preferred surrendering to the west and a lot of non-combatants moved to western territories as well, fearing that sovoks gonna mercilessly sovok them.

>>12775643
>>12775656
>>12775698
I just wish there was art of Bep raping Prince Eugen with a strap-on for the glory of Mother Russia.

>>12775579

You keep talking me about tactics and radios and haven't told me how the Zero could not counter that dive and zoom tactic.

To make it clear, nothinng until now has denied the possibility that the Zero could be used effectively against that tactic. What japanese lacked was simply the proper training.

>>12775698
I can't believe it, finally someone who knows real history.

>>12775708
I wish there was at least one man who knew real history.

>>12775707
> nothinng until now has denied the possibility that the Zero could be used effectively against that tactic.
Take a look at this >>12775581 and stop being retarded. There is no counter against it once the diver started to dive. There are few ways you can increase your odds of surviving, but said odds never go above 30% no matter what you do. No amount of training could make the result different.
The best counter is having more attitude. Zero was lacking in engine power, therefore it wasn't able to climb as high as Wildcats, making it a pipe dream.

Getting out of the south route comfort zone for the first time. Is the final form preboss at 3-5 any more likely to drop Akashi than the previous forms?

>>12775865
>south route comfort zone

How in hell does anybody find the south route more comfortable is beyond me.

>>12775878

Because destroyers are better than those fatasses that go to north route.

>>12775878
My big ships don't need more levels.

>>12775884
They aren't that good at not getting torpedo-raped, if you ask me.

>>12775885
That's a good point though.

>>12775891

Try sparkling.

>>12775891
> They aren't that good at not getting torpedo-raped, if you ask me.
Just level them more. I pass first node 4 times out of 5. Only to get sent to Hippo route even when I field DD only fleet.

>>12775891
From my experience DDs are prefectly fine as long as they're sparkled. I switched to northern route because I'm too lazy to sparkle them all the time.

>>12775893
>>12775901

Sparkling destroyers is terribly annoying but they need experience more than CAs or carriers so I'll try that next month, I guess.

Thanks.