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Why does Rikka have Issei's arm.

I have no fucking clue how that guy's no-damage 3-5 strategy from last thread is supposed to work, I'm guessing he must have lvl 60+ gunners for higher insta-kill proc rate since he seems to assume that's how the monks will die. Nurse gunner ends up barely even surviving to get her heals off, and her heal is not as strong as it would need to be do deal with all that damage. The big problem is the monks that come around from the west and can't even get hit by the other girls until they're already on top of the main castle.

I tried duoing it with Takiyama as suggested too, putting her right next to the main castle just results in the nurse taking all the damage anyway (until the fliers in 5th wave), putting her out in the circle to the west results in her nearly dying and having to send out Kanegasaki to save me, and things die too fast for the nurse's second heal to charge.

>>12740316
This works for me and nobody is even above 50, it's a lot better with a sea type on the river, they get massive range buff.
Only one who gets damaged by the end is middle gunner.

I wrote a Beginner guide.
http://pastebin.com/GRbe63r3

>>12740346
Post your equip on them

Posting the Beginner Guide so people can tell me what to add / change.

Beginner guide

Rarity is based on background and goes
Pink -> Red -> Silver -> Gold -> Holo -> Radiant Holo

Rarity doesn't automatically equal usefulness and strength. Many pinks and reds are more useful than silvers.

You use Rice (and a bit of wood and iron) to deploy girls, wood and stone to repair - wood, stone, iron and gold to craft - gold to send expeditions (Unlocked by beating the first few maps and getting the second squad. See the wikia for the quest list)
All these resources regenerate slowly over time.

One of the starters is needed for the third squad / team and it is the one that looks like a cowgirl, called Ne.
http://shiropro.wikia.com/wiki/Ne

Quests do not need to be activated, they are all always active.

Kidnapping can occur when you lose a map or retreat. Kidnapped girls are not lost forever immediately and can be regained by paying a random (resources) or using a cash shop item (Pardon) within 24 hours of losing her. If that deadline is not met, the girl is lost.

Each girl has up to 3 terrain types.
Plains (Green), Mountain (Brown) and Water (Blue) and any combinations therefore (Plains/Mountain, Plains/Water, Plains/Mountain/Water, Mountain/Water)
Each Terrain type influences where a girl can be placed and if she gets a range bonus or not. Non-water types cannot be placed on blue tiles at all. Being placed on a tile that is not included in the girls terrain make-up gives a massive range reduction. Being placed on their favorite tile (Pure Plains type = Plains, Mountain and Mountain/Water = Mountain, Pure Water = Water.)

Reload, Disconnect and F5 Abuse during a battle
Any of the above will send the game into 'Anti-Abuse' mode which gives all girls, whether they were already deployed or not, a 0% chance to trigger criticals, blocking or their weapon skill. Character abilities do still work.

>>12740362
Note: This entire section isn't 100% confirmed but the best thing we have.
Each girl incurs Fatigue from being deployed based on their terrain type. Fatigue goes from 0 to 100, 100 being top condition and below 20 showing a Foxgirl face in the top right corner of the girl. Girls that have below 20 fatigue will only deal 1 damage with everything they do. The gunner skill still does instant kill when it triggers.
Fatigue Recovery Speed : 6 every 5 mins
Fatigue timer is independent to every castle and resets whenever you end a sortie (EXP screen). Only castles that are placed into battle are affected (Castles that are in the same squad but not placed are not affected).
If your sortie ends before your fatigue recovery timer hits 0:00, the timer will be reset to 5:00 and no fatigue will be recovered (meaning if you do short sorties that lasts shorter than 5 minute in quick succession with the same castles you will not recover any fatigue in between them)
Fatigue consumption per sortie
Sea : 12
Mountain/Water : 16
Mountain : 20
Plain Mountain/Water : 20
Plain Mountain : 24
Plains : 27~28
Being the Home Castle reduces cost by 4. (So a home mountain/water castle would use up 12 fatigue)

>>12740364
There are 4 major groups of girls and more subgroups.
Sword based girls are divided into close-range, fast attacking melees that cannot hit flying units and much slower, long range, magic based girls can also hit flying units. Their weapon skill is hitting the same enemy twice.

Almost all spear users belong to the melee category, higher HP, defense, range and attack than most sword girls but also a lot less speed and skill stat, they also cannot attack flying units. Their weapon skill is hitting up to 10 enemies within range with full attack power once. This does not bypass their inability to hit flying units. There is one spear girl that can hit flying units and her range is much higher than normal but her attack is also much lower.

Archers are the smallest of the four main groups by far and are made even smaller in that almost all archers that can remodel do remodel into other weapon groups. They are a middle-thing between gunner and melee, not too strong or weak, not too slow or fast, capable of hitting flying units and ground units and good range and speed. Their weapon skill is hitting 3 enemies within range with full attack power. If less than three enemies are present, they hit the same enemy up to 3 times at once.

Gunners are the second largest group and have two sub groups. Slow and fast gunners. Slow gunners average around 30 speed while fast gunners average 55 to 60 speed. They excel in Anti-Air and have by far the most powerful weapon skill, which is why almost all gunners have less than 40 skill. They can kill any non-boss (Bosses exist in 1-5, 3-10, 4-10 and 5-10) enemy with a single shot when their weapon skill activates. This makes the fast gunners the generally preferred group within them.

>>12740367
Check this image for what each stat is.
Levels do not matter significantly in this game except for remodels. Levels add HP and Skill stat (Skill stat handles how often a weapon skill procs).
Attack handles damage versus melee units. Damage is fixed and does not fluctuate as it would in RPGs as there is no standard defined defense stat for castles and no defense at all for enemies.
Anti-Air handles damage versus flying units which start to appear in World 2 and become a real threat in World 3 and World 4.
Defense handles the chances of proccing a 'block' which completely blocks one instance of receiving damage. Each enemy does a fixed amount of damage (The 1-1 enemies do 4 HP damage per hit)
Critical (Or Satisfaction) handles the chance to deal double damage and affects both Attack and Anti-Air.
These four stats can be improved by 'extension' which uses up another castle girl to permanently (Does not persist through remodels) add stats. These stat caps are often very high, making farming lots and lots of duplicate girls, usually from 1-1, a very necessary activity.
Pink and Red rarity girls give +1 to the stats they affect, Silver and Gold give +2 and Holo give +3. Great success can be achieved and is more likely the more girls you use. Great Success adds +3 to all stats that would go up.
Rear Guard handles how well the chosen girl will protect your other girls from being kidnapped. Even the one in the game that has the highest stat does not guarantee a 100% chance.
Speed handles how fast a girl attacks, higher it better. The highest known speed value possible right now is 104 by a melee castle with two +5 speed equips.
Range handles how big a girls range of attack is. Melee have the smallest, Gunners have the highest range.
Support covers how big of a stat boost the girl receives if she (and up to 2 more) is summoned from the Rescue Squad (3rd Tab in Formation Menu)

>>12740354
Nurse: Two +4 +8 speed
Mito: +24 +13 AA, +27 +10 speed
Ikemen: +14 +10 AA +30 crit, +12 +8 AA +10 range

>>12740374
Many of the easily gotten but very useful girls include these:
http://shiropro.wikia.com/wiki/Kozukata (Needed for third Squad and her remodel is amazing)
http://shiropro.wikia.com/wiki/Yadomeno (Level 20 remodel very useful for the stock equip and also an extremely cost-efficient girl)
http://shiropro.wikia.com/wiki/Baba (Remodel is one of the better gunners)
http://shiropro.wikia.com/wiki/Odaki (Remodel is one of the best spears in the game)
http://shiropro.wikia.com/wiki/Sakado (Extremely cheap girl that can reach high levels of attack)
http://shiropro.wikia.com/wiki/Tsuruga (Her remodel is the most cost-effective and overall useful melee in the game)
http://shiropro.wikia.com/wiki/Minakuchi (Very high luck for searches and with some equip able to solo 1-1 with minimal damage)
http://shiropro.wikia.com/wiki/Nikki (Her remodel has the highest Rear Guard stat in the game, which is used to prevent kidnappings when you lose a map or retreat. She is also a good and cheap melee)
http://shiropro.wikia.com/wiki/Ipponmatsu (Remodels at 60 into one of the most powerful gunners if not the most powerful)
http://shiropro.wikia.com/wiki/Muranaka (Can easily solo 1-1 with some equip. Her remodel is strong but best reserved for later worlds)


End of guide

>>12740367
There are actually 2 spear girls that can hit both land and air. One is the holo and the other is the white haired one with the dog.

>>12740378
I would also include

http://shiropro.wikia.com/wiki/Utoko

As she is required for farming some maps without huge repair times. Not a very rare drops too.

>>12740435
I thought I had included her. Odd.
Added for next version.

>>12740421
Changed for next version

Fucking search parties, how do they work? I'm still only getting 7 xp on my plains search that demands simply gunners and archers; meanwhile water search (requiring water castles and lvl 20 main) I'm getting 10 xp with fewer castles. I'm convinced that pure sea castles must be worth double or something.

>>12740346
>>12740375
I actually went and grinded the sea archer a bit before the XP bonus ended then gave "her" some drops just to try doing that, but I don't have equip anywhere near that good, just one +8 speed for gunners, my best archer gear is +20 atk; using Takiyama instead of another gunner I just gave her two fox swords.

I'm just going to move on for now anyway, I stopped at 3-4 during the XP event to grind more on 3-3, was just testing out the 3-5 farming method now as I went through it.

>>12740515
Average level of all castles plays a role in my experience. The lead castle probably counts separate for requirements. Pure types are more important than mixed types. Terrain and weapon type both being there helps, too.
And in general, I think Lake has the lowest requirements, then plains, then mountains.

>>12740537
>lake has the lowest requirements
That might explain it, since I recall getting 10xp from water search since the very beginning, at the time I didn't know that xp reflected the unit quality and just thought water was worth more.

Needing more leveled castles is going to kill me though, I'm already going to be in trouble when the requirements go higher than main 20. I had to grind Wakimoto to 20 just to cover lake and mountain earlier when I realized Kanegasaki was my only 20+ water type and didn't want to tie her up on search parties.

>>12739847
Gifu should be a remodel of Inabayama though, and she's already in the game. Also, devs was talking about a castle being built in one night, so...

>>12740346
>>12740515
Okay, I actually got it to (almost) work after one more try with Takiyama in place of the 2nd gunner. Nurse gunner and Takiyama only 31 and maxed out, archer not even maxed. Last fucking monk managed to score a hit right before dying after nurse had healed to full. Considering previous results I'm not sure about its repeatability though; in my experience my gunners hardly ever instakill tougher enemies.

>>12740600
I was referring to Gifu being the location of Sekigahara which is World 1.
The tweet speaks of a battle at Kiso River and Kiso river flows through those prefectures and only Sekigahara is related to those specific prefectures therefore I guessed a new drop in world 1.

>>12740558
For the main-castle level requirement, a mixed type works too, especially for lake. Also, more than 10exp is apparently possible. 11, maybe even 12, but I suspect 11 is maxed success chance just because there are also 11 girls per page in the formation selection.
On a unrelated note, I am totally in love with how Fukui looks as civilian.

Working on clearing World 3 is making my metal constantly hit regen cap, so I tossed in a Kiyomasa 7/7/10/7 and finally got my first holo, Sakamoto. I could have done with something other than another gunner, but at least she looks great. And up until now I'd only gotten one 2 hour timer even (golem girl).

>>12740374
How about the secondary stats?

>>12740750
Just did that and got her, 10/10 recipe.
Endless 3-3 continues

>>12740778
I rushed her to 60, and then shelved her indefinitely.

>>12740810
Isn't her consumption Hotel-tier?

I am currently working on getting the image pack organized.
Removed small res images, numbered and named all the images (Like this: 004 - Sentai 004 - Sentai Destroyed 004 - Sentai Civil 004 - Sentai Skill 004 - Sentai SD) but god is this a tedious process

I'll upload this when I'm done, probably not gonna get done today

>>12740767
I'll add an explanation about it

>>12740828
Yes, she and Osaka cost more than 500 rice per sortie. Truly the hotels of Shiropro.

>>12740778
I'm done with 3-3 as long as possible now that the XP event is over, Odaki is the only one I missed out on remodeling (well, that I care to remodel, I'm not sure I even want to remodel Fukuyama.

And these fucking even-numbered world 3 maps, I have to wonder how one would even pull off undamaged main castle with some of these. Enemies coming from the west are so bullshit.

Looks like they are opening the other remodel function, adding one new castle? Maintenance at 12/1. Looks like the new remodel allow you to change their stats around maybe?

>１２／１（月）１４～１６時メンテンスの対応内容について　「改築の実装」一部の城娘に「改築」が実装されます。対象の城娘が一定のレベルに達すると「改築」が可能となり、城娘の能力がアップします。　「新規城娘の追加」城娘が新たに一人追加されます

Anybody can translate this better? My Japanese isn't that good.

Don't you just love 20 min. expeditions sometimes.

>>12741032
Prettiest castle

Playing this for a short bit a while ago I noticed Miki does an ahegao when damaged, or atleast it looks like that. Are there other "unusual" things in the game. I'm kinda curious but doubt I'll play it a lot to see it myself.

>>12741032
Just got her from a 20 min expedition too. Already had her though.

>>12741032
I've had like 4 duplicates of her already

>>12741066
In the game files, there are pissed off and overconfident versions of that battle cut in. Not quite sure how to get these to show though.

Also, some castles may have things sticking out of the construction site. I've seen ears and hats stick out.

>>12741116
I think there is angry and sad versions, probably for future updates though.

And then there is Ms. Pantsu here

>>12741066
If you wait at the construction tab long enough. A piece of lumber will accidentally fall down and hit the chibi goddess. She will limp away and you will see the curtain pulled back a bit allowing you to see the girl's legs and feet. Might be able to figure out who it is based on that.

>>12741032
I finally got my first Miki via search today, took me a damn long time to get the default starter too (kind of like not getting Fubuki until trying to clear 2-4 AFTER I already got Shimakaze from the first node).

>>12741066
One of the nips commenting on the wiki said something to the effect of "I chose her thinking I was getting a kuudere, instead I got a hungry girl who ahegaos when damaged." I had to laugh.

She even inspired the first R-18 pic on ichimi's pixiv since June.

>>12741116
Holy shit, she looks insane.

There are some images missing from the mega.co package someone uploaded.
Specifically the girls at
028, 029, 039 (The entire Ishikura line)
061 (Nagoya Castle)
081 (Fukui Castle)
137 (Kōchi)
1 pink, 1 red, 1 silver, 1 gold, 2 holos

The rest I sorted, numbered, named and assigned "Damage" "Civil" "Skill" and "SD" tags. Each girl has 5 images, normal, civil, damaged, skill use and the SD outside of battle. There were like 5 to 10 different SDs of them being deployed and I just could not be arsed to rename them all.

There are 98 girls in my folder, plus the 6 missing above puts the game at 104 obtainable girls currently

Does any kind of lead castle help with crafting horses, like with the other equipments? Even all 10 shits out normals all day at level 56.

Is this better than Kancolle?

>>12741568
Yes

>>12741574
In what way? Actual gameplay?

>>12741568
>>12741576
I won't say it's better but it's new so it's refreshing.

Second 60 in 2 days

Can't craft sendai for the life of me

>>12741568
Playing for 2 days and what catches the eye here is that the management is far more comfortable than in KC.
You pay for using castles (resupply) the time you place them, not after the battle.
You pay for expeditions the time you send them.
Every quest is always activated. You just need to check for completion.
You can access every menu from any place (except from encyclopedia). No need to constantly go to the main room.
Build copmletion/fatigue alert in main room.
"You are now starting/finishing expedition SPARKLE SPARKLE" screens can be skipped. Well, the whole game is faster than KC.

>>12741860
>Every quest is always activated. You just need to check for completion.
Also, the completion date note so you know which is one time, daily or weekly missions. That really helped me.

>>12740481
Instead of a pastebin, how about a google spreadsheet? It's better to collaborate on improving data we've gathered than handling it all on your own. It's okay if that's your thing.

>>12741800
Don't sweat about not getting Sendai, she seems as to be as rare as holos.

>>12742075
I am thinking of doing an analysis on all the castles with all the images attached as reference. Is going to take forever but I can do it slowly, can this be done in google docs? I haven't used it that extensively so I am unsure if it will work well with images.

>>12742099
Think of it as an online microsoft excel spreadsheet, if you're familiar with that. I think it's better for quick revisions, highlighting, custom formatting, and multiple people can pitch help if necessarry (e.g. tweaking a few misspellings, new game updates and changes) etc.

Regarding images, I don't think it's suitable for viewing it on the same page, but pasting a url link can be done. Doing the images like that is too similar to what a wiki is made for.

ShiroPro Viewer when

>>12742099
>analysis on all the castles
Looking forward to it.

>>12741568
As someone who use mobile internet on windows tablet to play both, kancolle is much better, you can turn off internet for 4h then turn on and play like nothing happen in shirocolle you got dc and enjoy another long loading if game load at all, every time you lost connection while not sorting nothing happen in kancolle but in shirocolle you got dc if you lost connection while sorting in kancolle nothing happen but in shirocolle you got dc etc.
Over all Kancolle is better for playing on go because game only connect to server occasionally while Shirocolle check server every few seconds.

The skill point gain makes no sense. I compared several castles and they all have different ratios of gaining skill points.
Kanegasaki got 81 skill (68 on 35) with lvl 82, That's 13 points over 47 level
Morioka has 52 skill at lvl 64, and 45 at lvl 30, that's 7 points over 34 level
Minakuchi has 22 skill at lvl 1 and 26 at lvl 38. that's 4 over 37 level
Sakada has 71 at lvl 1 and 80 at lvl 28, so 9 over 27 level

Hypothesis 1) Skill gain is unique for every castle
Hypothesis 2) Skill gain is affected by rarity, weapon type, terrain type and level, effectively resulting in nearly the same as Hypothesis one.
Hypothesis 3) Skill gain is affected by levels, specifically higher levels giving skill points more often
Hypothesis 4) It's a mix of any of the first three option.

Summary: Levels are important. The gained skill points might not seem much but will make a lot of difference in the long turn, especially when every skill proc is precious. I'll report back when Kanegasaki is 99.

>>12742674
That physically hurt to read.

Holy shit I just noticed Odani's skill stat. 80 skill level 1, 546 attack cap. She must become an absolute beast when you give her some range items and level her up.

>>12742727
Odani has the issue of being mountain only which limits her use quite a bit because she already has low range.

>>12742746
I know, that's why the range items. Two of those +5 speed +15 range horses should sort that out.

Too bad getting good holo horses is harder than actually getting holo castles.

>>12742754
even +30 range, two +15 range horses, would still leave her with a pretty small range if she isn't placed on mountains. Of course she's still really good, tho. I wouldn't call her the best spear user tho.

>>12742836
With 2 horses, her range would be 78, 10% penalty on plain so it should be 71 which isn't that bad honestly. She can hold choke points well enough especially with the constant weapon skill proc.

I'd say she is the best at simply holding either choke or be the main castle. I would take jojo for long range safe clear and noodles for air clearing though.

>>12742865
The penalty feels like way more than 10%.
Who the fuck is noodles.

>>12742881
http://sc.swiki.jp/index.php?%E4%B8%B8%E4%BA%80%E5%9F%8E

>>12742900
How the hell did you go from Marugame to noodles?

>>12742900
Is it because of dem legs?

>>12742916
She keeps chatting about noodles when she talks.

>>12742916
>>12742969
Probably because there's a marugame udon chain restaurant in japan.

>>12742865
And that 10% is the difference between strong as hell and utter trash. Even if you're able to stack up to 78 range on her it's still only a single cell's distance on plains. Unless there's a map where you can set her on a mountain terrain on a strategic position you won't see much use of her over other spears. Relying on a spear skill proc to hold a choke point is a really bad idea anyway.

Since the wikis still don't have wave info for most of world 4 and 5, I'm compiling my own wave info.
Anyone interested in me posting it to pastebin or something?

12 exp is possible, it seems.

>>12743760
How
I have never even gotten 11

>>12743760
Are you doing the "CHANCE" expedition? I seem to be getting 12 exp on it too. Not sure if that's the reason.

>>12743772
Yeah, that might be it. It could be that leader counts twice and then +1 from chance.

How do you do 5-5 with the Utoko and Tsuwano/Gothlolisama without repairing?
Which map and what kind of positioning? The wikis are being kinda useless

Why is Sentai avoiding me?

I will be so goddamn happy when I am done running mountain searches for equip

>>12743869
What if you finished all the searches? You can't do it anymore?

>>12743901
You can repeat the last area forever and it stays at 100% and the highest level you just don't get the 100% bonus a second time.
Not worth it for mountain, imo, and not worth it for lake either.
If you have all searches completed, just send repeatedly 1 girl alone to lake and let her fail and send a full team to plains

Plains is the easiest to fill up and gives the most rice. Also cornerstones.

>>12743953
>If you have all searches completed, just send repeatedly 1 girl alone to lake and let her fail and send a full team to plains
What's the point? Might as well make them succeed if you're sending them out at all.

>>12743997
Hoarding gold is the point.
Wood and Stone are so easy to max (99999) out that it's laughable. Rice can also be maxed out by constant plains search, estate selling and not deploying a metric ton of holos every battle. Iron maxes out over time from 4-7, 5-5 and so forth and there is also some gain from plains.
This leaves only gold as the resource that is difficult to hoard as it only really comes from battles and quests, past natural regen.
You're sending 1 girl to lake to gain some extra res for nearly no gold cost whatsoever.
Gold cost scales by number of girls, and at the highest level, even with a great team, you'll fail a shit ton. So why bother to spend all that gold? It's nonsensical.
The exp is laughable, too. A single run of 5-5 with 3 girls will give 1500 exp to the main castle, which is like 150 searches at 10 exp, if you can even get that.
There is also the reason for availability. Lake and Mountain need some of the more useful girls to actually make it a successful search. Plains can do with mostly fodder girls. I for one have to pause my mountain search every time I need my Otaki or Tsuwano or any of the other highlevel mountain only (and it pretty much has to be mountain only for the best success odds, later).

In general, your question can be directed right back at you. What's the point of making them succeed, or trying to, if they will fail 30-50% of the time anyway, will take a lot of useful girls to make it work in the first place, cost more of the only resource you can't reliably farm easily outside of battles and generally yield meager profits?

>>12744019
Items you can't get outside of scouting, whistles and bells. The gold cost is nothing when you can make 300 gold a run in 3-5, which you should be doing for keystones anyway.

>>12744037
Why would I need to farm whistles and bells from searches when they shove them up my ass every single day in the dailies? I have 200+ repair bells and something like 60 whistles and no idea what to do with them.

I turn everything into end-game optimization math.
Also, the 1-5, 3-5 and so on except 5-10 stones are all reported to only return crap from construction.
I hope that I am going to stand corrected on the construction stone part but I have my doubts.

>>12744050
I don't know about the odds with those stones, but there have been holo reports from the 1-5 stone. Every regular stone used for castle construction is a stone wasted that could've been used for equipment, since you cannot use boss stones for them.

>>12744100
I have not seen a single good report about the stones except the 5-10 ones
And have fun farming 5-10

>>12744151
http://wikiwiki.jp/shirocolle/?%A5%B3%A5%E1%A5%F3%A5%C8%2F%C3%DB%BE%EB%A5%EC%A5%B7%A5%D4%A5%ED%A5%B02

Ctrl+f 大吉 (1-5) and 大うつけ (3-5)

Doesn't look like they're that bad.

>>12743558
More info the better honestly, might be good to add it to the wiki as well.

>>12744301
I just really hate editing the wiki
This is what I got so far
There are some missing waves when I got distracted
http://pastebin.com/v3siwTc7

>>12743819
Here is how I do it, I alt tabbed a bit and missed a heal which is why Utoko is not full hp.

The equipment required is pretty high though. I Utoko has one of those 8 speed and 10 speed gun from plain search. Gothlolisama has the +5 to everything flag and +10 range horse. I used to occasionally missed one until I got the gun from plain search.

>>12744320
I only have a +9 range, +7 range and a ton of +5 range horses
two +5 speed guns and a +8 speed gun
guess I'll stick to my current method, gonna repair gothlolisama after 2-3 runs

Man, trying to get enough fodder to max out stats is such a pain. During the xp event I was focused on getting as many remodels as I could so now I have a bunch of girls needing over a thousand drops in total to max. Nurse gunner and Takiyama are my only maxed out ones, Kanegasaki and Komoro are almost maxed, Mito and Fukui have been fed some, Morioka and Sanponmatsu haven't been fed a thing. Ones without remodels that I've had for a long time have had their stats raised various amounts, newer ones like Fukuoka and Sakamoto haven't had their stats touched.

The really annoying thing is it seems like stat gain from leveling (in the ones you can raise by feeding) doesn't work like Kancolle with random stat gains each level; rather it seems to scale with level and if you've already raised the stats beyond that then you get nothing. Take a lvl 1 girl and start grinding her right away and attack, AA, etc. will gradually go up, give her fodder then grind and her stats don't budge. I grinded Fukuoka up to 20 just to try to conserve fodder, but other girls like Nanao and Tamonyama I already raised too much (well, Nanao finally resumed gaining 2 atk per level after hitting 18).

>>12744386
1-1 runs all day every day
I rotate a bunch of castles that get away with minimal damage. I collected roughly 2000 drops since I started playing, the day they opened registration to everyone, just by doing 1-1 while my 3-3 and 4-7 girls recover fatigue

Right now clearing maps, only 5-9 and 5-10 to go

>>12744395
I'm afraid I'm not autistic enough to handle running 1-1 all day, I never even did short expeditions in Kancolle unless I was actively playing and those are less frequent than 1-1 spamming. Shiropro already sucked away my life during the event and I'm trying to break away from it now (though for now it's keeping hold of me as I work on clearing maps).

>>12744437
I am the same way as this guy, I went slightly overboard during the event and grinded my ass out. Now that the event is done, I am just going to take it easy and slow to clear out the rest of the maps. Maybe Do some easy 4-7 and 3-3 while I am working on something on the computer but no more hardcore grinding for me.

>>12744437
>>12744442
I just played a couple of days before and didn't have any good castles to level.
Then right off the bat after the event ends, the game give me Ipponmatsu, Odaki and the nurse archer.

5-10 done, I was a second too late to retreat nurse gunner and was a bit dumb with placement

The hardest wave by far is the 20 bee wave. The 5 Elephants aren't hard and the 5 Monks aren't that difficult either. The 35 Crabs wave is kinda hilarious.

>>12744605
O gratz, I had problem with the bee wave as well. Fortunately I had gothlolisama as my main castle. So I just waited for them to gather and blew them all up with her skill.

>>12744605
> 20 bee wave
Marugame worked perfectly for me. dat skill

Gothlolisama is incredibly useful in world 5. Just stick her over the entrance (when castle is upper right) or near the castle (when castle is upper left) and watch her OHKO everything

Based Gothlolisama

>>12744605
That wave was the easiest for me, Aizu-wakamatsu just one shot them all with her skill.

>>12744617
>>12744616
I had Odawara as home and nobody had a damage skill up so I got pretty reckt.

>>12744617
No Marugame here, I have unbelievably bad luck with holo recipes

Zelda-tan was my home castle from 2-1 to 5-10
She's earned her pay

These are my res after clearing 4-8 up to 5-10 in one go
Yes, I'm bragging. It's my reward from myself to myself after never losing a single battle from 1-1 to 5-10

>>12744638
Now get some holos, What's the point in all that res sitting around doing nothing.

>>12744648
The big numbers literally make me feel good.
And I try for holos every 4 times a day with the dailies. 8-8-8-8 has been giving me nothing but shitty duplicates. 4-6-6-3 hasn't given me a single new girl either.
My only holo came from 10-10-10-10 and all tries of that since then were shit, too

>>12744605

So I guess when I don't like Kancolle I wont like ShiroPro, right? Don't know if it's worth it to test it a bit.

>>12744687
I don't have Sentai or Marugame.

>>12744696
Not required.

>>12744694
Entirely different games in regards to gameplay.

>>12744687
I want a Sendai

>>12744702
Well I didn't liked in kancolle how much time it eats up, that composition requirements and what ships are useful dictates what ships you use, the rng and generally the confusing game design. I kinda wanted to use the ships I like, but the game works against the meta.

>>12744722
If you want to clear high-end maps you do kinda need to use proper girls for that.
Shiropro eats up more time than Kancolle but there are extremely few composition quests right now.
In kancolle you can, due to rng, beat almost anything with any ship combination you like (within compass requirements) but in shirpro there is a limit to how high stats go
I use different girls for different worlds and maps though.

>>12744756
Well I guess making an account wont be too much time wasted.
I just hope ShiroPro don't become a porn fest like kancolle.

>>12744760
You can kiss that hope goodbye.
The girls are much more delicious than the Kancolle girls.

Point in case, Shikano

>>12744760
That depends on how popular is going to get. From the look of things right now it will probably just be average/above average popularity, but then again the game's out for 3-4 weeks?

Shiropro definitely eats up more time than Kancolle on average, however it is technically more afkable as well since there are maps where you can just start, grab your girls and chuck them to the ground, go read something and check back in 10 minutes.

>>12744767
Open registration was November 20, so less than 2 weeks
I don't really count pre-reg-only playing periods as "Officially open"

>>12744773
the pre regs are waaaaay back.
I remember it have a wildly different promo pics at that time, like a couple pics of giant castle girls. I can't find it now though.

>>12744798
Pre-reg being open and Pre-reg being able to play are two very different things.
The official opening was November 20.
Pre-regged people could play from 11 November
So even with that, not even 3 weeks
Kancolle needed a few months to really take off, too

>>12744798
Was it september or october? I remember not getting into the beta test and almost forgetting about it.

Assuming damage skills scale with attack (which it definitely feels like), I wonder how viable a gunner with a decent range super damage skill equipped with 2 rocket launchers would be on bosses.

This girl would have 579 attack.

>>12744765
Maybe they should make the clothes and weapons out of the same material as the skin.
It's a bit sad though these things are always targeted at making otaku dick go big. But as it works it may be a requirement.

>>12744807
Hard to tell because generally bosses are not a problem. Slow moving tough enemies are usually taken care of by fast gunners, aka gothlolisama.

Maybe if they introduce more enemies that are immune to the one shot then we might be able to see an ion cannon build viable.

>>12744819
Wait nevermind gothlolisama is technically a slow gunner.

>>12744806
July 1: Site opens
July 1: Pre-regs go uo
September 8: Pre-reg closes
September 10: Closed Beta Test Start
September 16: Closed Beta Test End
October 20: Name changes from Shiro Collection to Goshiro Project
November 7: Game is soon to be released announcement
November 11: Sudden declaration over twitter that Pre-regged can play now
November 14: Non Pre-regs are slowly allowed into the game
November 20: Registration opens to everyone

>>12744807
They do. Power-up buff also affects skill use.
2 Rocket launchers + large or ultra damage up buff = OHKO everything

>>12744810
The damaged art is really rarely seen ingame and not all girls are designed like that. Here's an example of Otaki in her civil clothes

>>12744824
>>12744819
Gothlolisama is in-between slow and fast gunners
She's a regular speed gunner with absurd high skill and attack

>>12744806
>>12744830
Yeah it was way back. Like i said, wildly different promo pics. Now that i think of it, they probably didn't have anything but those pics back then. Probably just thought of kancolle but with castles, draw some promo, open prereg, then build the game.

>>12744848
It takes longer than 4 months to get all that art, the voices, the gameplay coding and so forth done and organized so development must have started around the time Kancolle really took off. I suspect, very early 2014 if not even 2013.

>>12744830
Oh that's not too bad. I hate it for example for dakimakuras that you rarely find ones that aren't overly sexualised. Also might be that the game will be less popular due to that.

Levelling a spare set of nurse and tits for 3-5 farming

One set hits fatigue way too quickly, ocean girls have like a million stamina though so they're fine

>>12744863
Most of the civil forms, which is what the girl wears when you're not in battle and on the main screen, are really tame and the girls have an SD form too which obviously isn't sexy.

This is probably one of the few really sexy civil outfits
(There are 5 images for each girl:
Civil, Standard, Damaged, Skill use and SD)

>>12744875
I hope ocean girls get a clear purpose soon, some of them are really cute. I can see them becoming the subs of shiropro where they're only really good on maps that are largely covered with water.

>>12744887
Ocean girls are overpowered as hell because of their minuscule fatigue cost
I have zero ocean girls.

>>12744875
tits?

>>12744895

>>12744894
I'm still waiting for that 1:45 timers for the booby ocean silver, I got the Ueda Kana ocean silver from a lake scouting.

Really, the only reason I'm still running lake expeditions is in hope that I get her there.

>>12744876
Man those are really impractical large boobs for a ninja. Like double the circumference on the boob compared to under.

>>12744900
I heavily approve of boobs like that.

>>12744899
I'm only up to level 5. Each expedition has 10 levels so I hope I actually get some water girls from there eventually.
I did get 4 of the gold girl already for no fucking reason

>>12744887
The cutest

>>12744976
She's probably my favourite castle in the game.

This one is pretty good too, for obvious reasons.

How soon do you think new remodels will come?

>>12745042
Tomorrow, says so on twitter. They are adding the one day castle and opening the other remodel option to everybody.

I don't think what anybody knows what the new remodel will do though. Hopefully it can give new unit types. Maybe land only gunners that does AOE splash but is slow as hell.

>>12745070
They've already mentioned that it's only stat increase.

>>12745072
Really? Kinda disappointing then

Any grinding comps for 2-7 and 5-8?

>>12740352
Thank you.

>>12745281
Don't know about 2-7. But I think 5-8 has high requirement. People who can farm 5-8 usually have Jojo, gothlolisama, Maru with some very high tier equipment. I would have to find the picture again.

>>12745338
I have the other two but who's jojo? though my eq is most likely lacking I guess.

Nice. First try with the golden stone from 3-5, 4/6/6/3 second builder.

>>12745376
Jojo is her.

>>12744898
It's a fucking travesty that there are only two images of her on pixiv right now.

>>12743760
>>12743772
Chance is gone and I'm still getting 12 exp from it, so that isn't it.

>>12744320
The mirrored version of this map doesn't work well for 5-5 at all

御城プロジェクトはPCブラウザ専用ゲームですが、
一部ブラウザではご利用いただけません。

対応環境をご確認の上、対応ブラウザからのアクセスをお願いいたします。

※画面下部の「対応環境」を選択いただくと、
　御城プロジェクトに対応したブラウザが確認できます。

What am I doing wrong? I thought this is PC game, right?
I'm using the same cookie trick with Kancolle. It works with OLET, should it also work here?

>>12746480
What browser are you using?

>>12746496
IE10

>>12746502
You might want to try another one or upgrade since it says something about it not being available in some browsers.

>>12746502
Try 11

>>12746516
>>12746524
Finally went nice with Firefox. Though I don't like playing DMM games with 2 different browser, and I still don't know how cookie & cache works in Firefox.

>>12746564
My Firefox just won't cache the game data. Worked when I switched to Chrome but it uses high CPU processing.

>>12746502
>>12746524
Why use IE? Is it good now?

Also, how do i get more food/rice? Once i got to grinding without downtime, my rice count drop like crazy.

>>12746846
Constantly send out search parties and grind in maps that drop rice to reduce cost.

Rice eventually stops being a problem, instead you will be low on gold instead. Especially if you lose a battle and have to ransom back your girls from the rape dungeon.

>>12746846
IE11 is by far the best version yet and actually a good browser, flash performance especially improved a lot.

>>12746846
I have over 90000 rice and deploy all day
I do 5-5 (how many times depends on how reckt gothlolisama gets) then 4-7, then 3-3 then 1-1 rotations
Everything but 3-3 drops rice. I lose about 100-150 rice on 5-5 per run, depending on home, lose 50-100 rice per run on 4-7, depending on home, in 3-3 it's the full cost which varies depending on home but is generally [home + 50] or [home +66] or [home+56]
1-1 runs are a net loss of -1 to 31 rice per run

This is all before selling estates you get as drops though.
I run searches nonstop
If Plains has Chance, I go plains+mountain
If Mountain has Chance, plains + mountain
If Lake has Chance, Lake + Mountain

I'll stop mountain entirely and replace with plains when I reached the final reward. 2 bars to fill.

Fucking construction was giving me Hiketas all afternoon; next thing I know I have surplus gold, try 7/7/7/10 and finally get Tottori. Finally a better archer, now I don't need to consider wasting any fodder on Sanponmatsu, I'll just home castle grind her to gothloli eventually.

>>12746879
I tested out switching to IE a while ago in hopes that Shiropro would run better in it than Firefox, but it turned out to be even worse.

Although ever since the XP event ended it's been running a lot better, I don't know if they did some optimizations during the following maintenance or what (it doesn't really make sense that server load during the event would have degraded performance on my end). I used to have to close down Firefox and reload every hour or less while grinding 3-3 as I'd get to a point where fast mode was barely any faster than normal and clicking through menus was sluggish as hell. Now I can keep the game running for a long time and even have Kancolle going at the same time without problems.

Holy shit, every single holo horse I've gotten so far has been +10 or +15 against virgins or whatever the fuck. Do good holo horses actually exist or have I been lied to?

>>12746929
Get good

>>12747093
Get out.

Does Sentai drop from 1-1?3-3?

>>12747398
No and no
At least not in the close to a 1000 runs on 1-1 I did

>>12746921
I need a bow user that doesn't cost a million rice

Gimme your tottori.

My smug archer's stuck in plains expedition for 2 more maps anyway, bleh

>>12747404
Despair.

Anyone has a matsukaze here? 10all?

At what HQ level can you craft the +15 range horse?

What's the best way to level castles, and HQ so I can stand a chance in the 2-2+, and what not?

>>12747586
Levels only matter on those who have remodels. Modernization weighs more when it comes to stats. I cleared all of map 2 with a bunch of castles with levels averaging at 12-15.
If you'd still want to grind it out then 1-1 solo. Or just choose any map where your girls doesn't get damaged too much while at the same time gives you substantial amount of experience.

>>12747586
1-1 until you get to 3-3

>>12747586
I got to 3-3 with all my castles under level 15.

Why is this game forcing me to use the ikemen oh my god give me more bow users jesus why this is so gay

>>12747687
Too FABULOUS for you?

No ranking reset?

does the fact she's only "water" and not "sea" have any meaning ?
http://sc.swiki.jp/index.php?%E8%8B%A5%E6%9D%BE%E5%9F%8E

>>12747687
Use this goddess

>>12747599
Wrong. Levels also give skill points, even though the exact formula is unknown, and that adds up really fast.

>>12747770
Gameplay wise, there is no difference until they introduce deep-water tiles that only sea castles can go on.

Maintenance in 1 hour 10 minutes (14:00 JST)
Will last until 16:00 JST

Nijo is the best girl

>>12747884
Tsuwano is

>>12747884
Senko is the cutest of all.

>>12747884
That's not Sendai.

>>12747908
Pirate can't compare to midget-dekaoppai girl

You guys have all been playing for long enough to develop feelings that sway your opinions, though.
I've only been playing for like an hour, and I can speak from an objective, neutral, unbiased position when I say that Nijo is the best.

>>12747927
Most of us have been playing less than 12 days

>>12747927
Objectively, Tsuwano has the best stats for her deployment cost and class. Nijo is not even close.

>>12747937
12 days, and you're already blinded by love. How are you gonna be the most ichiban shogun like that?

>>12747919
Can't compare to best girl.

>>12747964
Spear Bunny is fantastic but I have a thing for midgets with enormous tits

>>12747954
I cleared 5-10 already, what more do you want?

>>12747908
She doesn't exist.

>>12748063
Rice doesn't exist.

10 minutes to maint
send your 3h or 6h searches

They're really on time with the maintenance periods

Now what do I do

>>12748137
Kancolle
Oh wait.

>>12748109
>hmm, still 30 minutes to go. then i'll put 3h at the last 10 minutes
Then i forgot, dammit.

Anyone want to take a wild guess at who the new remodels will be, what level they remodel, if they change types or not?

The captcha is driving me nuts as of late

I'll try for marugame later, but the lack of clear recipes kinda stinks honestly

>>12748213
Consider this.
The crafting is as random as Kancolle and further complicated by having at least different modifiers before the actual stones and recipe and then each stone acts as a modifier before recipe
So the formula is bullshit like
Scroll = 1-3
Stones = 1-6
Recipe = Each res 0-10

That's worse than LSC odds

>>12748253
The worst part is resources and stones don't make getting any castle easier

Using more wood won't get me a bow castle etc.

Marugame's one of the only usable holos so it's kinda rough

Game is up

Woah that was quick

今回対応を行った内容は下記です。
<対応内容>
　・「忍城」「本庄城」に「改築」の実装
　・新規城娘「墨俣城」の追加
　・城娘の並び替え項目に「運」を追加
　・所領売却後にそのページにとどまるように調整
　・築城担当を前回選んだものを記憶して表示するように修正
　・サウンド設定画面のナビキャラ画像を変更

H-here I go.

>>12748462
What level?

Got a remodel

Of course I don't have her. Fuck you.

>>12748466
50

Oppai

>>12748468
Damn, same.

Also got a remodel. Better not be high because she's totally shit.

>>12748462
she's like fodder material for me.

>>12748472
Who?

>>12748472
How? How did you get her so fast

>>12748471
Remodel level has to be below that. Guess I'll find out

>>12748462
>>12748471
pic and stat pls

>>12748476
She is named the one day castle I believe, build by hideyoshi.

>>12748462
And here she is.

>>12748476
Sunomata castle
>>12748478
Someone on futaba got her, apparently she comes from 8875

>>12748485
She doesn't even stop being so fucking ugly, huh.

>>12748485
So just a stat change eh.

I guess she looks usable as a babysitter for 3-3 but I have like 5 different ones for that.

>>12748485
Shit.
Look at that pathetic skill value.

>>12748485
>no new art
Disappointing.

>>12740152
I like her breasts and stomach area.

Lovely

>>12748516
Looks like his chest fell off mate.

Party's over, looks like we have a trap.

>>12748520
>>12748516
I like her even more now, time to up my 3-5 game for some stones.

>>12748516
fake boobs

Disgusting. Will scrap on sight
Dekai Oppai or kill

>>12748516
It's PAD

>>12748516
I'VE BEEN RUSED

>>12748530
I seriously wonder if is intentional reference or just an art error considering she was literally built in a day.

>>12748538
So literally balloon tits as castle?
At least normal form still has tits

How do you even maintain rice levels in the beginning? Every mission is costing like 300+.

>>12748554
She better turn into the best castle in the game then, holy shit. That grind will be absurd without 1.5x exp.

Nice boots.

>>12748554
That's not terrible considering she is the only plain + water type sword castle I think. Speed is a bit low but everything is on par. I am glad they kept her ridiculous luck too.

Might be good, she's cute too so that's a bonus. Is it really a level 60 remodel though?

Apparently her built time is literally 1 minute.

>>12748554
Not going to bother with the two stat change girls then, both of them are mediocre as fuck.

>>12748554
Shitty skill stat for a sword
Usefulness depends on the rice cost

>>12748566
There are 2 other Plain/Water castles. A silver and a holo.

>>12748566
Looks like you can do it at 50.

>>12748595
Back to search party she goes then, can't waste that 242 luck.

>>12748472
Nips using 8875 Kiyomasa as her hot recipe

「改築」が解放されたのもう一度説明するの！「改築」は城名も性格も変わらずパワーUPするの！「近代改築」は注意書きのとおり、城名が変わって武器や見た目、性格も新しい城娘に生まれ変わるの！近代改築させたくない城娘はそのままでも育成できるから、近代改築するかどうかは殿次第なの

Not making too much sense but it explains how renovation and modernization is different. One is basically standard upgrade, the other is what we already know from the game

I saw no option to do this ingame tho.
Maybe only for girls that have a remodel, are at remodel level?

>>12748626
Just got her from this recipe after a few tries. She's utter garbage.

>>12748729

Didn't braids and this one get the new modernization option
The button is different from normal kai'ing.

>>12748751
61 rice must be the cheapest silver yet
And HA-HA at that ridiculous low skill and speed stat. Pure plains with 91 range is decent, 64 luck is okay for searches, it depends on attack cap now but this is truly pretty damn bad.
That her boobs literally explode when she gets damaged is a gigantic NOPE for me in regards to keeping her.

>>12748753
Oh I see. I thought they get regular modernizations. But they just got renovation.

My mistake.

>>12748751
Not that surprised, historically she was known for being the one day castle. There was nothing else outstanding about her other than that.

The pad thing is a good reference though, I will probably waste some resource for her.

>>12748472
I would love to know what kind of magical pads give you perfect skin color overly huge boobs that aren't held by anything and even let you stick a gun in-between that is somehow held in place by actual mass with physical pressure.

>>12748776
yo anime

>>12748776
They are castles, I ain't gotta explain shit

>>12748781
>>12748784
Those aren't acceptable explanations.
At least she's still busty in her home form so I can at least be happy that the boobplosion thing only happens as castle and she actually has huge tits normally.

Why.

>>12748826
They added some new slots too I think. Maybe a renovation will save her from being terrible.

How many Perfect Clear maps do you guys have?

The best part about these threads is that we have almost no shit posters yet
I'm trying to promote the game to the people I know because after a year of kancolle, this is like suddenly finding a girl made of gold. Who has enormous tits and does everything I say.

>>12748923
Oh eventually the fucking asian shitskins will jump onto this, no worries bud

They've been ruining everything ever since RO

>>12748937
I will enjoy these threads as long as it lasts. When the shitposters come, I will just learn to filter smarter.

How do I craft (and by how, I mean, how many resources)?
How do I get resources?
Any castle(s) I better look up early?
Is my starter good?
>>12748923
It kinda gets Kancolle's popularity effect, but let's see if it can raise my interest to Japanese castles like Kancolle do the same to IJN.

>>12748954
Read the thread

>>12748937
I'm Asian and as far as I can see, no one seems to have jumped onto this, not yet. Probably not even those from the wikia or himeuta.
>>12748944
Me too. Kinda reminded me of the young days of KC. I doubt this would be famous as KC, on a foreigner's viewpoint that is. I think warships have more appeal than castles to a common outsider.

>>12748954
There is a beginner guide right in the thread. I'd answer if you have anything specific but everything you want to know can be found in the guide.

http://pastebin.com/GRbe63r3

>>12748961
Nothing against asians as a whole, but the ones that come off sounding like stereotypical BR huehues or uguu anime teenagers bring your stocks down plenty

>>12748954
The lack of complete bullshit, helpless RNG battles helps a lot to not turn people away.

>>12748961
The himeuta cancer has a 400+ pages thread for this game. But probably less than 20 actual players.

>>12748961
I can tell you for a fact that especially in Europe, castles are a much bigger thing that warships. Surprisingly, especially in germany. We germans don't do so well with the whole "Fuck yeah, WW2" thing for obvious reasons.

And honestly, there are a shit ton of castles world wide. Many very famous, much more so than warships. I mean, most people have heard of the Tower of Londom, Neuschwanschein and so on. I don't think nearly as many people know Yamato and Nagato.

>>12748984
I get a lot of those people every time in my country. They're so common that you nearly become immune to them.
>>12749004
Well, I just thought that people might go for recent history. Then again it's just up to personal choice. While I may call myself a history nutter, I'm more drawn to WWII era but I'm starting to read some info about castles after I got into this game but only for those castles I have in-game.

>>12749031
Castles are directly associated with medieval themes and those are a big hit. Then there are actual dark ages history nuts. Let's not forget the japan sengoku era and chinese warring periods crazies.

Castles is probably the broadest, most plentiful option they could have picked.

>>12749004
The only castle I know is Shuri castle, and it's from CoD
Judging by how they name things, at least they're trying to put historical reference, but it's hard for me to know which refer to which.

One girl I have is afraid of foreign ship, which does she refer to? Perry's one?

Nice castle, bad stats. 1 minute timer is a nice inside joke.

>>12749307
How do you determine 'good' stats or 'bad' one? Any standard?

>>12749337
Lower base ATK, AA and Skill stats compared to other silver gunners, dunno about her cap though. Well, I do like her for having better range, low consumption and being a pure plain.

>>12749066
Chinks are more fond of walls than castles.

>>12749337
The big 3 that i look for are attack, speed and range.

>>12749356
With how cheap she is, you should be comparing her to pink guns instead.

Yadome from 3-5 goldfarm is a pleasant surprise

5 fans now, I guess

>>12744320
Do I need this map for 5-5?

Hiketa three times in a row
I guess she likes me - or simply bad luck

>>12749492
Only map I found that works, you will get hit in the flipped version of it.

Honestly though if you actually have the equipment and the girls to farm this map, I would be very surprised that if you do not have at least one copy of this map.

>>12749528
You will be seeing a lot of her, I think she is ok in the beginning but becomes upgrade material eventually.

>>12749606
Too bad I nuked a lot of them except for the few I use regularly, now I need to find it again. I have the flipped version but indeed it doesn't really work that well.

My first holo

>>12749734
What recipe

>>12749783
2nd scroll and 4/6/6/4. Lead is Kurokawa i think.

>>12749798
Standard stone? Appreciated

>>12749616
>>12749606
Before you have the necessary equipment for gothlolisama and nurse gunner, he flipped version actually works better. Yes, gothlolisama gets hit by a monk sometimes but you can minimize this by clever skill use of GLS and stacking speed guns on nurse.
It works better than the version in the screenshot because of their natural ranges and map setup.
If you do have the good equipment, the west-entrance map is obviously better than it's mirror.
But without it, east-entrance is actually better. Nurse only gets hit once by each monk on east-entrance but twice in west-entrance, too, so you have to heal 3x in west-entrance, only 2x in east-entrance

>>12749898
Should be good enough? just missing the flag if that's required. Gotta wait for gothloli to return from exploration before trying again.

>>12749952
I don't have a +12 speed gun, where the fuck did you even get that, nor a +15 range horse.
But yeah that's probably enough.

10 level to go for Gold Jojo

>>12749993
Crafted the gun with 6/6/6/10 and holo gunner main castle, 15+ was most likely with all10.

How do you even beat 2-5
There are no good spaces and everything is too durable

>>12740152
Is this game same as this one
http://www.siliconstudio.co.jp/socialgame/muramasa/

>>12750098
No, that one is about the people in Sengoku era, this one is about castles and cities.

Superior Japanese cowboy folded over a thousand times needs a nice stats kai.

>>12750150
Forget that, she can stay level 1 and be the retreating bitch if I lose.

>>12750157
But she can heal herself and she has a spear. That shit's awesome.
And her secretary outfit is nice.

>>12750160
But how am I suppose to ransom back my girls from the rape dungeon when I am constantly broke.

>>12750164
If you had a healing spear flagcastle with mondo stats from a good remodel you wouldn't need to.

http://wikiwiki.jp/shirocolle/?%C9%F0%B4%EF%A5%BF%A5%A4%A5%D7%CA%CC%BE%EB%CC%BC%B0%EC%CD%F7

Bow remodels when? It's a bit sad that there are only 2 decent bows ever worth using, one of which is really hard to get.

>>12750343
No kidding, I really like bows but there just aren't any.

>>12749952
I think I got the hang of it, good exp but got to pay attention unlike 3-3.

Which one should I prioritize?

Just when I thought I was done with 3-3.

>>12750403
Enjoy your hoteru

>>12750396
Kanegasaki to level 35 and Mori to level 30 for baby sitting.

Odaki to level 35 for half gundam, she is a strong spear unit.

Knifeloli and Nurse archer to 30 if you want some strong gunners early.

Bunny is worth getting some levels too but she will always be above average only, never top tier.

>>12750394
Yea that's the annoying part. The exp almost doubles but you have to check back every 2-3 minutes to make sure everything is fine.

I usually just run it until nurse is in fatigue and then afk 3-3 or 4-7 while I do my work.

>>12750416
Wait, which is which? Kanegasaki is Tsuruga, but Mori?
Then Nurse is Utoko, but who's the other?
Still not get used to the name, fuck weird kanji reading.

Is there any better map for 3-3 than this one for low level grinding?

>>12750774
I used this map until I had swords good enough to solo the map you're using. Spear on red, archer on pink, sword/spear on blue in case your spear and archer can't kill everything on their own yet.

Does anyone know what this warning means? I've had it the last 3 days or so, and it won't go away. My castles are not tired or damaged. Anyone knows?

What do you think of this map?

>>12750867
You got too many maps, delete some.

>>12750867
You might be capped on maps (50) or girls (101).

>>12750868
If you're not sortieing only 2 or 3 castles any map will do for 3-3.

>>12750880
>>12750882
Many thanks. It was maps. Time to sell some Estates. Didn't realize such a cap existed.

Did 8/8/8/8 Kiyomasa, get 20 minute timer, it's Sendai.

You guys said she didn't exist.

>>12751019
You don't exist

Baba's WAAAAIII is quite possibly the worst sound I've ever heard not coming out of a baby in a public space.

>>12751204
Are you talking shit about me bitch?

>>12751226
What are you gonna do about it? I'm only leveling you so you can turn into a completely different lifeform that isn't terrible.
Get your face off of your chin. It's unsightly.

>>12751204
Looking at the comments on her wiki page, even the nips find her voice annoying.

>>12750439
Ah sorry, I had to leave for some work there so I didn't get a chance to respond.

Although now I think about it, I am too lazy to screenshot the girls. How about you send me what you think looks interesting and I will tell you if she is worth in your main lineup or not.

But seriously, what kind of shit do I need to beat 2-5? Everything is too invincible and does too much damage to my main castle. There aren't any good safe spaces and if I put someone in an unsafe space they get blown up because the club dudes and rams do gigantic damage. The only thing I have that can feasibly kill them in a reasonable amount of time is a gun OHKO proc and I've tried just lining the roads with guns, but that leaves my main castle too bitchmode to deal with the stuff that actually does get through.

>>12751272
Post your castles

>>12751237
Baba is just as useful as onee-san! Baba is instrumental in world 5 because Baba can heal herself!

>>12751272
I don't remembering 2-5 being that bad. Post your lineup.

>>12751286
>>12751292
Just tried Ne on point for the heal but she just got the shit beaten out of her like everything else.

>>12750774
I think you're using too many castles that the experience is split among them. A maximum of 4 earns 300 exp per run; 360 for flag and another 360 for non-flag MVP.

>>12751272
I found 2-5 easy, 2-6 on the other hand was the one map I had real trouble with.

I had a melee at each corner of the crossroads, Tamonyama between there and the main castle, Hiketa as main, giving me attack buffs for the last 2 rounds.

For the melees I had Nanao SW corner, Honjou NW, Murayama NE, Shinpu SE; I should have swapped Shinpu and Honjou since it turned out Honjou took the bulk of the damage while Shinpu took almost none.

Rams did virtually nothing, they almost always died before getting close enough to hit.

>>12751292
damaged art is the best part of Baba, dat nopan

>>12751306
No need for ranged units at all, use all melee for the defensive buff.

I just picked a really low level team(10ish) or so. The two ranged units did almost nothing so you should be able to do much better. Literally all you have to do is get 4 melees in the middle, 2 sword on the outside and 2 spears on the inside. They will get damaged but you should get past it no problem.

>>12751250
Check beginner guide

Oh my god they added a mute button, bless Senko.

>>12751346
Well, that almost worked. Now that I know which spot will get hit the hardest I'll be sure to not put Oniga there.

Okay, so based on what the wiki say, I guess new people can't join in until the game is open at some point?

>>12751308
I think using low numbers of castles is only good when you're high leveled and want to focus exp on some select castles.
At low levels, it's better to use 6 since in total it gives bigger exp. I think 3-3 give me 230 per castle and 270 for hq & mvp.

>>12751668
Read the OP, It's right there.

>>12751668
Is open to everybody, just read the OP and follow the guide.

>>12751672
Fair point I guess. Would 1-1 solo yield higher experience I wonder? You can probably just solo 1-1 then rotate the castles you're going to level and the more you have, the faster they can recover fatigue and the more you can deploy. Then againit might be time consuming.

>>12751672
>>12751710
Actually wrong.
You get more exp in total the less castles you use.

Do 3-3 with 2 castles, home and melee, add their exp together
Now do 3-3 with 6 castles, and add the exp together.
The more castles approach will actually give you less exp total.

>>12751710
This is incredibly time consuming though and you'll have to repair after 2-3 runs if you don't have any good range and speed equip.

I don't think I understand this game.
I'm just going to bruteforce everything with Nijo or something.

>>12751710
Haven't do 1-1 solo yet. I'm still too low leveled.
I'm still aiming to upgrade all my upgradable pinks.

>>12751742
What's not to understand? The game's fairly simple as far as tower defense game goes. I am actually waiting for them to diversify the game and introduce more unit types.

>>12751748
Basically no matter what I do I don't have enough damage and my main castle girls die as soon as stuff touches them.
I actually can't bruteforce with Nijo apparently because she just dies and does no damage.

>>12751734
>You get more exp in total the less castles you use.
Read >>12751672
He's low leveled so it's okay to put in more castles or you'll be paying more in repairs or even risk a defeat.

>>12751752
You don't stick a long range artillery in the frontline. That's rule number 1.

Rule number 2 is that if your girls too fast, that means you either progressed too fast and they are underleveled, or you need to switch them out when they get low. Don't hestiate to switch out your units when you see mass flyers and you have few ranged units.

Learn to bunch up melee when you can as they gain defensive bonus when together.

Rest should be fairly common sense, if you really want to smash through everything without thinking. Brute force to 3-3 and grind there until everybody is level 30. Finish the rest of the world.

>>12751748
I don't think they'll introduce a fifth weapon class anytime soon. There would be a million balance questions to deal with. And what would that even be? We have swords, spears (Lances fall under spears, too), bows, guns, magic(long range swords)
Pure support girls would be my only idea but that would make repairing largely useless.

>>12751773
Well, what would the defenders of a castle will do against a siege? We have the current weapons already so they might put those boiling hot substances poured over the attackers or something like that.

>>12751767
I'm on 2-6 and essentially just doing what "worked" on 2-5 (pretty much just this >>12751346, but with Saika between the crossroads and castle to help soften up the fliers. I had to swap some new melee girls in on 2-5 because the ones on the corners got owned) and Nijo's on my castle because she's the tankiest thing I have. But now I'm just incapable of killing both the ground dudes and the air dudes, and she dies on wave 1. Just about everything gets through the melee gauntlet and Saika can't kill any of the fliers fast enough, and Nijo dies before she can clean up very much. Am I supposed to have just grinded everybody like hell by now or something? Most of my girls are around 8.

>>12751752
Sounds like your girls are fatigued.
Read the beginner guide.

>>12751753
He says
>it's better to use 6 since in total it gives bigger exp
Which is factually wrong.

>>12751787
They aren't fatigued, they just can't do shit and I don't know why. I read the beginner guide.

>>12751773
Is not even a fifth weapon class, but think of it more like specializations.

We already have a bit of diversity here, for example the fast and slow gunners, what if we can evolve this even more? The slow gunners can choose to become cannon units, they are even slower but now does AoE splash.

Similarly Spear units can say become blockers than attacking units, they lose attack but now their hits hamstring the unit and slow down movement speed.

etc etc

>>12751787
I think he meant in the long run. Since he's using low leveled girls, it would be risky to use less castles to support each other which would mean a large repair bill and a longer repair time. If he uses more castles, the less repairs, less repair time, the faster sortie turn around time and his castles would get bigger experience over time.
Of course I think he understands that once his castles are leveled enough, he can reduce the number of castles in one sortie so he can keep up with the increasing experience requirement as he levels up.
I'd do it too if my castles are low leveled until my castles can mutually support each other in less numbers or even until they can solo the map.

Need marugame, send help

Tottori's fine too

>>12751783
That's not something you could do as a non-home castle though, and limiting a girl to just home? Especially, pouring stuff over attackers means their range would be nearly nothing. Sounds like an awful class.

One thing I can imagine is a girl with colossal attack power but no speed and range whatsoever. A class that doesn't attack directly but attacks via traps. They have various skills that when used place traps on the map, within their range, that go off when an enemy touches them.

They would be fragile as fuck, too, and expensive to field but this would be really great for those maps where you have multiple paths to trap, many waves and each wave takes time.

>>12751790
Which girls are you using? Have you fed them other castles for stat ups yet?

>>12751796
Well that's actually a great idea. I don't see how they would implement this without completely wrecking game balance though.

>>12751802
That's not how I understood it, but if that is how he meant it, that's fine and not wrong.

>>12751790
They are a bit underleveled if you are trying to break though 2-6. I remember farming 1-5 a bit if you can before jumping to world 3.

>>12751753
>>12751787
>>12751734
I just tried, i'm wrong and he's right. Less castle more exp total.
With 6 castles it's total of 1422 exp and 5 castles is 1440 exp.
That seems small but it gets bigger once you count the hq, mvp and tech finish bonus.

>>12751804
Man I am having the same problem. I want Marugame to farm 5-10 to mass clear wave 8, but I just don't have her.

Similarly I have all this awesome bows but have nobody to use them.

>>12751818
Farming 4-10 in the meantime for the stone, increases holo rates hopefully

There's level 30 holo bow from the hatloli but she's an expedition unit and costs a million fucking rice

>>12751752
You need to use all your castles. Just withdraw them and replace with fresh ones for the 5th or 6th wave.

>>12751822
What's your comp for farming 4-10? Also do you farm 5-8 at all? Right now I am still on 3-5 for the gold and the stone but I do want to try something else if possible.

>>12751808
Well, that's usually what I read on castle sieges anyway. Or they could just catapult stuff away. Then again we had guns already, or those catapults would have larger range than guns, has splash effect, but slower DPS than guns.
About the grinding, I'm more on getting less repair times since I don't wanna wait repairing a small bunch of girls with long repair times wherein in those times I could already be sortieing those same girls. And of course like I said, if they can do it in small numbers without taking damage too much, then I'd deploy them in lesser numbers.
>>12751814
Just take it slow and see how many castles you can deploy w/o taking much damage if you're picky about repair times like me.

I have to ask, do luck matters much in search/expeditions?
I'm currently leveling Fukuyama and Hinotake simply because their upgrades have big luck and planned to use them as search leaders.

>>12751808
Mostly the ones in >>12751306 but with Oshi and Nijo. I fed a ton of defense ups to Ne but she still just crumples when things look at her.
>>12751809
guess I'll just grind a bunch and hope the hp and skill are worth a lot more than they look.
>>12751824
Thing is I can only sometimes barely survive wave 1. I switched them around in 2-5 for later waves, but they don't even take enough damage on the sides of the roads to need swapping before I need to retreat. In 2-6, the ground stuff gets past my melee meatgrinder, the air stuff is largely unaffected by Saika, and flagcastle Nijo dies without really cleaning anything up. Not running anybody on low morale, either.

>>12751829
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24998470

Similar to this setup, except natto has defence+range horse instead and pirate has one flag + speedguns instead of 2 flags

>>12751835
Honest answer, I have no idea.

I mean I am sure it helps but I don't know how much. Eventually you will start to worry more about making the right comp than looking for luck bonuses.

>>12751835
My low luck mountain team performs about the same as my plains with four +100 luck members so I'm inclined to say it's placebo.

>>12751843
What's your castles levels? I bruteforced to 3-3 with all of them under level 15 and only a couple of silvers. I left trails of destroyed castles on every path though.

>>12751843
farm 1-1 for attack fodder. max out attack for your girls
defense =/= damage taken

>>12751848
>http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24998470
Interesting

I don't have a silver sea unit though. Hopefully my pink one will do.

>>12751829
I also have 2 sets of nurse and tits, with a 3rd set coming right up for 3-5 farming

3-3 for general levelling too when the rest are exhausted

>>12751843
Imo, stop using Nijo as hq? You need to prevent mobs from swarming your hq instead of hoping her to wipe off everything.
Also, looking from the stat i think Nijo is bad as hq. That low speed, once she's swarmed it's all over.

>>12751676
>>12751706
That's strange though, because when I press the "register" button on the game page, it just keeps redirecting me to the game page again.

I thought something went wrong with my DMM account, so I tried registering for different DMM games, and it worked just fine. So I'm really not sure why I can't play this one game right now.

I'm using Chrome, but I don't think that should be an issue, no?

>>12751848
Having no sea castles whatsoever is pure suffering

>>12751917
>have Kurushima and Wakamatsu
>dat range when put them in a ditch

>>12751914
Try clearing your cache maybe?

>>12751917
>>12751945
Sea gunners make my 3-5 goldfarming much easier

>>12751991
Ikemen is the strongest 3-5.

>>12751945
Please share

>>12747964
Best girl is right here.
She has that one-san look, and ara ara aura.

>>12752200
That's a man you fool.

How does it feel that your waifu is literally a trap

Is there a way to run this in flash player instead

Game starts lagging horribly after 30 minutes

>>12752092
I don't think pink sea castles are extremely rare, i ate some Kurushima duplicates along the way.

>>12752260
I don't have a single Kurushima, pls share.

>>12752260
What crafting recipe did you use? I've been trying for 10 days and only get duplicates

>>12752208
Can you run kancolle in flash player without API link? If the answer to that is yes, it should be possible.

>>12752203
Bandaged boobs, pic related
You're busted, good sir

>>12752260
Thanks for teaching me the kurushimi of no Kurushima.

>>12752271
4/6/6/3, the first/standard scroll. I got them early in the game but i never got Sakurao.

1)Is it worthed to put more girls for expedition?
2)Is fatigue given only if you put the girls on the battlefield (i.e. if you just take her but not put her on fight, her fatigue will stay)?
3)Can I just rush through the 1st area with any girls, or, should I train them first/give some equip?

I tried my best to look up for recommended girls (from pastebin, stat table, etc), but it's just too confusing. At least in Kancolle there's some clearer hierarchy (BB > DD, etc)

I just pumped 80 stones into crafting

Zero holos

I think I'm done with this game, this is depressing stuff

>>12752339
1) You can get more items, so yes
2) Girls not deployed do not get fatigue
3) You can try, 1-5 boss shouldn't give much of a problem, if in need you can grind 1-1 for some levels/drops.

>>12752358
What recipe did you use

>>12752339
Look at the wiki. Prioritize levelling pink castles that have remodels.

>>12752367
4663 for the 4 hour holos

Literally nothing but pinks and silvers from 80 stones

>>12752358
Not like Kancolle LSC or crafting was any better when it first came out

>>12752376
I'm surprised you didn't get a single Marugame. Should have tried other recipes if that one wasn't working.

>>12752365
1)How about the resource reward & success rate?
2,3)Alright, thanks
>>12752370
I'm focusing at Ipponmatsu, Tsuruga, and Otaki right now. But not sure about other girls.

I want to bury my face in Gilgamesh's tits

>>12752384
I'm pretty sure the chance for a holo is 1 out of 20

I went 80 without a one, this is just depressing. I just need a single marugame to progress

>>12752397
Which builder anyways?