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Visual Novel translation status


>12Riven- 58.5/72 scripts translated, 3/75 scripts edited
Air (Project 1)- Through QC, some tech work remains before patch
Amagami - 1st day patch Released for PS2/PSP, "1113/2308 original edition scenario scripts translated (48.2%)"
Amairo IsleNauts - prologue and common route fully translated, Shirley route 10% TL, Masaki 18.5% TL, Konoka 10% TL, bonus 20% TL, prologue patch out
Clover Day - 618.8/648 KB of the common route + 74/722 KB of a route translated
Cocoro Function - 14735/53644 (27.47%) lines translated
>Daitoshokan no Hitsujikai - 13160/69128 (19%) lines translated, demo released
>Gensou no Idea - Common route 21% translated
Haruka Na Sora - Sora 11.29% translated, Kozue 23.73% translated
Hatsukoi 1/1 - Being translated
>Koichoco - 100% translated, 315/397 files edited
>Koiken Otome - 94.31% translated, 76.27% edited, prologue patch released
>Koisuru Natsu no Last Resort - 28032/36325 (77.17%) lines translated, Common + Umi + Riho route translated
Kurukuru Fanatic - 67.4% translated
Lamune - Nanami route partial patch released, Hikari route 1436/6085 lines translated
Little Busters - Original released, work ongoing with EX./ME content, now a joint project with Doki. 29712/30163 new lines translated
Lovely Cation- 6.39% of lines translated
Magical Marriage Lunatics - 11,856/64,062 = 18.51% lines translated
>Mamatoto: 55.0% Complete
Muv-Luv Altered Fable - 65% partial patch released
Muv-Luv TDA 01 - 50% translated

>> No.12744364

Noble Works - 25,328 / 57,690 (43.9%) lines translated, partial patch released
Oreimo PSP - 100% translated, 239/299 through TLC+Editing, 217/299 scripts finalized, Kirino + Ayase partial patch released
Oreimo Tsuzuku - 199/268 scripts translated, 78/268 through TLC+Editing, 66/268 scripts finalized
Princess Maker 5- 86.06% lines translated, 32.91% of lines finalized
Rance 5D - 40% translated
Rance 6 - 10% translated
>Rance Quest - 17.31% messages and 85.19% strings translated
Rewrite Harvest Festa - 5155/30040 (17.16%) lines translated
Rose Guns Days 3 - 60% translated and edited
SakuSaku - Common route + Konami route fully translated, 24523/49257 (50%) lines translated, 15993/49257 (32%) lines finalized
>Sanarara R - 13/124 scripts translated
Sayonara wo Oshiete - 4269/14309 (29.8%) lines translated
Sonicomi - 984/18196 (5.2%) lines translated
SonoHana 10 - Being translated
SonoHana 11 - Being translated
SubaHibi - Down the Rabbit Hole I patch released, 48564/53520 (90.7%) lines translated and 40597/53520 (75.9%) lines edited
Supreme Candy - ~14573/43261 (~33.7%) lines translated
Tasogaredoki no Kyoukaisen - 100% translated, in editing
To Heart2- 67% translated- "The final product is still years away unless I get more help. ", new alpha patch released
Witch's Garden - 15275/67201 (22.73%) lines translated
White Album 2 - Opening chapter fully translated with a "rough patch", Closing Chapter: 3038/35275 (8.61%) lines translated
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 72.67%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 84.64%, Motoka 30.67%, Common and Kazuha fully edited

>> No.12744366

Official work

MangaGamer
>Kyoudai Hiai - Released
>Space Pirate Sara - December 26th release
Eden - In scripting
>No Thank You - In Beta, demo released
Princess Evangile - In beta
Yome no Imouto to no Inai - Through Beta
Kara no Shoujo 2 - 44.9% translated, 22.1% edited
Bokuten - 44.9% translated, 10.1% edited
Da Capo 3 - Prologue + Ch. 0 complete, Common route 50.1% translated, overall 29.6%
Higurashi (retranslation) - 14.5% of Watanagashi TL, Onikakushi editing finished
Gahkthun - 52.5% translated, 18.9% edited
OZMAFIA - Main route: 85.3% translated, overall 12.2% translated
Euphoria - 58.9% translated, 5.3% edited
House in Fata Morgana - Demo 84.4% translated, full game 20.9% translated
Free Friends - Fully translated and edited
Free Friends 2 - 16% translated, 16% edited
Supipara - Intend to fund through Eden's sales

JAST
Romanesque - Golden Master
Hanachirasu - 99% complete
Django - Couple more months of translation
Sumaga- Fully translated, in editing
Seinarukana- Mostly translated
Starless - In translation
Trample on Schatten- translation about half done
Shiny Days - Translation finished
Raidy III - TL finished, in insertion
Sweet Home - In translation
Sumeragi Ryoko - Picked up

Sekai Project
World End Economica- Chapter 2 by end of year
Fault -milestone one- - end of the year release
Grisaia trilogy - Kickstarter planned
Clannad - Ongoing Kickstarter
>WAS Lepidoptera no Sunadokey - Kickstarter finished
Nekopara - 18+ release through developer + all ages release by Sekai, demo released


Other
Moenovel is working on another title
Eiyuu Senki - PS3 version picked up
Lucky Dog - Possible iOS released based on the ongoing text only fanTL
Work being done on a fanTL of Shin Koihime with hopes of getting it licensed
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

>> No.12744456

so the clannad kickstarter is going to add 15 more $1000 tiers. now is your chance to get one /jp/!

>> No.12744496
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>>12744456
Sweet, I've always wanted to purchase a CLANNAD® $1000 Pledge™ by Sekai Project (@sekaiproject)! This is going to be great!

>> No.12744510

>Majikoi has been resurrected by Fuwanovel..

Just pointing that out guys..

>> No.12744522

>>12744510
Don't get too excited until you see some examples.

>> No.12744528

>>12744522
I know what to expect.. I expect a translation that's on the same level as Nekopara..

There are a lot of people who want to see a translation though..

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>>12744528
>>12744522
>>12744510
The examples already exist. It's a Youtube 'translation' being put into the game that appears to be a cleaned up machine translation by the way it has no idea how to handle complex concepts like なんで and 俺様.

The only difference between it and the previous Fuwanovel attempt is that the guy doing the cleaning isn't a 14 year old Malaysian with no grasp of English.

>> No.12744585

>>12744577
Why is it that so many people with no understanding of English attempt to translate into it? Is this a form of mental disorder?

>> No.12744592 [DELETED] 

>>12744585
Same reason people think they can write, draw, be photographers, sell real estate, etc.
"It doesn't seem that hard."
And without crowds of sycophants like Fuwanovel around instead of people actually looking at their work and saying no, this is wrong and bad, stay away from anything even vaguely related to literature in the slightest way, then get encouragement. Luckily, the time investment does a good job of weeding out the vast majority of the fuckers, but unfortunately, not all. You should see how godawful the manga and LN translating scene is. Ixrec level translations would be an improvement for most of them.

>> No.12744596

December, when there is no angel

>> No.12744601

>>12744585
Same reason people think they can write, draw, be photographers, sell real estate, etc.
"It doesn't seem that hard."
And with crowds of sycophants like Fuwanovel around instead of people actually looking at their work and saying no, this is wrong and bad, stay away from anything even vaguely related to literature in the slightest way, then get encouragement. Luckily, the time investment does a good job of weeding out the vast majority of the fuckers, but unfortunately, not all. You should see how godawful the manga and LN translating scene is. Ixrec level translations would be an improvement for most of them.

>> No.12744718

>>12744366
>Moenovel is working on another title

Is there really other title? Isn't this just them releasing their horribly translated game on Steam?

>> No.12744940

>>12744718
http://store.steampowered.com/app/326480/
It's on steam for 2 days already

>> No.12745029

>>12744718
It's been nearly a year since this exchange so they might have just been counting it as one of their releases of KonoSora from this year, but that initially was added because of this exchange in a big Q&A they did.


>Part XII : Can you tell me about your next project?

>Well, we're currently planning it so I can't really give any details but we are planning to release a game with a heartwarming story with charming artwork.

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>Princess Maker 5- 86.06% lines translated, 32.91% of lines finalized
>Sayonara wo Oshiete - 4269/14309 (29.8%) lines translated
>SubaHibi - Down the Rabbit Hole I patch released, 48564/53520 (90.7%) lines translated and 40597/53520 (75.9%) lines edited

Waiting warmly.

>> No.12745076

>>12744940
>reviews from curators telling people to use the fan patch
Why are they allowed to say that? The fan patch restores scenes that are exclusive from the JP version. Applying the fan patch is the same as pirating.

>> No.12745097

>>12745076
You can't pirate something that was made and distributed free. They bought the game from steam, they are free to do whatever modifications they please.

I'd be more worried about the deleted scenes. They scenes were deleted probably because of some lawsuit that could arise. So them encouraging users to restore the deleted scenes could cause future problems.

>> No.12745112

>>12745097
The scenes were deleted only because Moenovel wanted to release an T rated all ages title, no legal reasons. Had MangaGamer got the license, they would have released uncut without batting an eye.

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>>12745112
> no legal reasons
Rating it T and then encouraging users to use a patch that would make it rated A or 18+ would cause legal issues.

Even if it didn't cause legal issues, can you imagine the mobs of angry mothers seeking blood from them for doing that? They would get enough lawsuits to heat their houses for a lifetime of winters.

>> No.12745119

>>12745115

Where do you get the idea that moenovel is encouraging use of the patch? It's just other steam users.

>> No.12745150

>>12745115
Moenovel saying anything or doing anything about people who say stuff about the restoration patch would only encourage more people to use it while making it a much bigger issue for them. Their best course of action is to continue to take a silent approach and neither directly encourage people to use it nor try to remove the patch or discussion of it.

Also, plenty of titles get AO mods by third party fan created mods, it's not like this is some unique case with regards to third party created content.

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>>12745119
I was under the assumption that staff from steam was encouraging users to. >>12745076's post wouldn't really make any sense otherwise, since no one cares what user comments have to say.

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>Kara no Shoujo 2 - 44.9% translated, 22.1% edited

Well, no progress this week.

>> No.12745157

>>12745154
There might have been progress, however MangaGamer did not update their progress page on the staff blog this week.

>> No.12745162

>>12745115
>>12745152
Don't take it the wrong way, but you have some good taste in children.

>> No.12745294

>>12744364
>Rance 5D - 40% translated
>Rance 6 - 10% translated
>Rance Quest - 17.31% messages and 85.19% strings translated
These are never going to be finished.

>> No.12745312

>>12745294
>These are never going to be finished.
Same thing was said about FHA.

>> No.12745314

>>12745115
You don't seem to understand how laws work or have any fucking idea what you're talking about.

The Supreme Court ruled that all video games fall under the 1a. You're trying to censor books at this point. Make any argument you like, you're wrong.

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>> No.12745362

I think its be much faster to learn this fucking moon rune, than wait anythnigh you interested in to be translate.

>> No.12745403

>>12745354
if you want to be a troll, first rule is to make it believable and not blatantly false info. the date, man. could've done better.

>> No.12745408

>Daitoshokan
Anyone mind explaining me this? Let me guess, another Fuwa idiot?

>> No.12745419

http://ask.fm/Kouryuu_/answer/120602320900
How would you feel if NTY outsold all of MG's other titles?
>I think it would say something pretty sad about general VN fans if BL significantly and consistently outsold regular titles.
If this ever happens I'm going to be fucking mad

>> No.12745434

>>12745419
That's what happens when the community pirates everything and loudly boycotts anything it doesn't pirate.

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>>12745408
http://libraryshepherd.tumblr.com/

A few people from last week tried it out and saw a fair share of TL errors and a need for editing, but it's probably better than Fuwashit.

>> No.12745438

>>12745419
That is cause only children and stupid autists still dont learn jp and instead continue read ingrish shtty tl. And they obviously dont have money to buy the game.

>> No.12745446

>>12745437
Much better that most of the finished TL.

>> No.12745474

>>12744362
Does any of these translations have a nameable protagonist besides LovelyxCation and Amagami?

>> No.12745477

>>12745403
it's not false, just really old

>> No.12745481

>>12745477
yeah, you're right. Sorry I worded it wrong.

>> No.12745493 [DELETED] 

the most useless thread in this board

>> No.12745503

>>12745446
Not really.

>> No.12745505

>>12745294
The person who translated Kichikuou Rance and is currently translating Mamatoto says he will translated VI if progress isn't at 40% by the time Mamatoto is released.

VI is easily the best untranslated Rance game anyway

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Hey guys, Moogy is interested in doing an AMA! But he's a bit hesitant and lazy to actually do it! Let's give him the encouragement he needs!

>> No.12745538

>>12745531
Fuck off AW.

>> No.12745540

>>12745531
Go away, Moogy.

>> No.12745555

>>12745437
I'm not sure what the TL error in that one is, but if it's remotely accurate I must say VNs sure like putting in some weird pulls to make an otherwise run-of-the-mill story stand out. I guess that's how they try to make it sell, but then they don't really make good use of it and they might as well have written the story without it.

>> No.12745591

George Henry Shaft will be releasing a Hanahira patch soon, going by his blog. He also has another two projects in the pipeline.

>> No.12745635

>>12745555
Daitoshokan was one of the best moege I've played in the recent years, the gimmicks worked really well. And to be honest I've seen plenty of people share this opinion.

>> No.12745642

>>12745635
I've seen plenty of people share the opinion that Insem is a great translator.

After Eustia, people expected more and they instead, it was another Yoake/Fortune Arterial. Daitosho is Just Another Moege, unconcerned with having the slightest bit of ambition or depth, just the same copy pasted fluff scenes you find in all of them over and over and over again. There are a billion of those already. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting at least four. I honestly have no idea why anybody would hold up almost any particular one and declaring it their favorite. It's like having a favorite McDonalds and defending that as better than all other McDonalds.

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>>12745642
I like August VNs, Yoake, Fortune, Daito, Eustia - I like them all. And I want more of them. August moege is comfy.

>> No.12745656

>>12745642
That's because you're thinking too much about "plot", the writing in Daitoshokan was great, and not because compared to other moege it's better, but because of how much it knew how to utilize common ideas and situations of the genre. While Eustia was interesting and had more "depth" and "ambition", Daitoshokan had a superior execution. But that's it if you can see beyond the simple "generic" scenes in front of you.

>> No.12745660

>>12745656
It could be the greatest fry cook in the world. You're still getting the same content in the same package.

>> No.12745665

>>12745660
I'd rather eat generic food made by a great cook than the opposite. And Daito delivered the former.

>> No.12745730

>>12745635
Well, I'm certainly open to trying it, as I am with most things, and I'm glad I didn't check out the anime yet since the VN project is going pretty smoothly so far. It's just that I've been burned by that kind of thing before in stories that didn't need it and squandered their potential by hamhandedly shoving it in. But we'll see how this one goes.

On the topic of apparent moege that are being translated, how do you feel about Princess Evangile?

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>>12745154
After I finished Cartagra, I re-read the true route in Kara no Shoujo. Why did they need to make another game about it? It had some loose ends, but at the same time it ended well enough that it didn't need an additional game about it in my opinion.

I wonder how much they fucked over Shugo in KnS2 though. His story has got to be the worst, everyone around him either dies or gets maimed. I mainly don't want to read KnS2 just due to the fact that they're going to make him suffer more.

>> No.12745792

>>12745437
That's really not that bad.

>> No.12745807

>>12745792
Is English your third language, or do you just not recognize grammatical errors?

>> No.12745810

>>12745807
I was talking about the translation. The english needs some editing of course. I'm saying the translation isn't blatantly wrong.

>> No.12745814

>>12745807
Can you fix the grammar please?

>> No.12745849

>>12745751
>It had some loose ends, but at the same time it ended well enough that it didn't need an additional game about it in my opinion.
Because Reiji didn't give up searching for Touko, though the whole KnS plot is only touched by the end, is a completely new story otherwise.
> wonder how much they fucked over Shugo in KnS2 though
Doesn't appear, his sister barely mentions him once and brings Touji to help Reiji.

>> No.12745855

>>12745730
Haven't really tried, been playing plot VNs recently.

>> No.12745864

>>12745814
If I was grading it like an eighth grader's paper... Not all strictly errors, but shit anybody who has gone to high school should know.

Line 1: Remove the ugly, awkward, and unneeded passive.
Line 2: Oxford comma. Fix your fucking tenses.
Line 3: No reason to start that awkwardly with a conjunction. Fix the fucking plural consistency. Redundant 'happen.'
Line 4: Rearrange sentence (leading uncertain pronoun). Redundant "be able to." "But" is a conjunction to the previous sentence, de-capitalize it, replace unneeded ellipses with comma. Fix the fucking plural consistency. Redundant "when it happens." Fix your fucking tenses.
Line 5: Fix your fucking tenses. Redundant "I had earlier."

You don't get extra points for padding sentences. English and Japanese are very different languages. One is subject prominent, one is topic prominent. If you don't understand what that means and how it affects translation, you shouldn't be trying to translate.

>> No.12745869

>>12745660
>It's like having a favorite McDonalds and defending that as better than all other McDonalds.
>>12745642
>It could be the greatest fry cook in the world. You're still getting the same content in the same package.

As someone who's eaten the exact same fast food meal weekly for several years, I can tell you that yes, the quality of the meal DOES vary depending on several factors, including where precisely you get it (even if it's the same brand). It's mostly dependent on when you get it (when it's busy they'll all rush it and you get bad quality) but some places do care more about delivering a quality product than others.

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Reminder: This is the exact same thread that found the fence metaphor in this screenshot to be indefensible.

>> No.12745886

>>12745879
>indefensible
Are you proud of this?

>> No.12745904

>>12745879
Yeah, we've basically just got a bunch of ESL people here that always try to "fix" things that are perfectly fine and claim that these are "translation errors." Translation-wise, Cannonball was pretty good, and Daitoshokan seems to be of about the same quality. A nice improvement over certain other translations.

>> No.12745909

>>12745810
You need to work on your Japanese then. His attempts to embellish the second line led to getting the third line completely and utterly wrong, and the fourth and fifth lines were misinterpreted thanks to that. It's a mess.

>> No.12745913

>>12745904
Or actually, rather than a bunch it was probably just one or two and one of them was probably herkz shitposting. They were persistent, though.

>> No.12745921

>>12745864
>ugly, awkward and unnedeed passive.
http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2922

>> No.12745933

>>12745869
Just like how you can make an actual decent moege, which manages to execute its ideas much better than a plot VN!

>> No.12745935

>>12745921
>I've been having
>I have been having

>> No.12745945

>>12745864
Passive voice is okay. I don't think you understand what a passive clause is. I suggest reading http://www.lel.ed.ac.uk/~gpullum/passive_loathing.pdf

Oxford commas are alright too as long as it is consistent. Everyone has different opinions in accordance to oxford commas; I suggest reading the Wikipedia article to see various institutions on this matter.

Starting with a conjunction is fine too. There is nothing wrong with this.

In any case, this anon doesn't seem to know how English works and is spitting out bullshit from The Elements of Style, a derided work from actual linguists.

Bye.

>> No.12745966

>>12745933
Arguably, that makes it a plot VN. It's not like a certain type of plot means there is no plot.

>> No.12745972

>>12745966
I meant plot more as in an ambitious fantasy setting like Eustia compared to high-school fun like in Daitoshokan, which according to anonymous is "more of the same" and can't be as good as VNs with said depth and ambition.

>> No.12745976

>>12745945
You're conflating "technically acceptable" with "good," not to mention ignoring all the tense and plural inconsistencies, but since you're just here to shitpost >>12745904 we can leave it at that.

>> No.12745981

>>12745976
Good job dodging arguments.

>> No.12745989

>>12745032
I'm glad you are back to waiting warmly

>> No.12746016

>>12745981
I'm not dodging anything. I said from the start that they weren't all strictly errors. That doesn't mean that it's not poor writing and can't be greatly improved, especially just by removing all the redundancy.

I do like your accusation that I don't know English, but have memorized the Elements of Style. How does that work? Do I channel the spirits of Strunk and White?

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>> No.12746038

>>12746026
I thought that was the Baldr sky translation?

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>>12746026
It's going to be another December without angels, isn't it?

;_;

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>>12746046
Nope!

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>>12745792
It's pretty bad. It may not be Hongfire machine translation level, but he really shouldn't be making mistakes like that if he actually knows Japanese, since none of those lines are in any way difficult. Take a look at some of the other examples I posted in last week's thread, too. If I were to hazard a guess, he probably just discovered JParser and decided that made him qualified to translate. So he's pretty much your typical VN translator, sadly.

It's not so bad that I'd say you shouldn't read it if you're really interested in the game. Just know that there are quite a few errors, and the nicely flowing text of the original is nowhere to be found. It also has amazing English like pic related.

>> No.12746130

>>12746121
Does... Does he not know what "irregular movements" means?

>> No.12746148

Who are the /jp/ approved translators?

>> No.12746150

>>12746121
That's a real shame, though. One of the best parts about Daito was the writing imo

>> No.12746206

>>12746148
There are none. If you ask /jp/, there are only terrible translators and even worse translators.

>> No.12746207

>>12746148
Me, of course.

>> No.12746252

Higurashi never?

>> No.12746262

What's your excuse for not leaning Japanese yet?

>> No.12746297

>>12746262
Because I have a bad back, so I can only lean Mexican.

>> No.12746402

>>12746148
No translated VN Xmas presents, no /jp/ love.

>> No.12746407

>>12746402
What about Santa Jast's presents?

>> No.12746413

>>12746262
NEETs are supposed to do NEET things, like nothing at all.

>> No.12746416

>>12746252
>Higu
Pretty much ;_;

>> No.12746421

>>12746402
Just look at this fantastic present
http://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?aflg=18over&product_code=133&af=d91a29c4263691f11a386c55fe349d89

>> No.12746430

>>12745935
There's literally nothing wrong with that, quit being autistic

>> No.12746442

>>12746430
Comma splice. Missing a period.

>> No.12746474

After last week's thread, I expected the Daito script to be a disaster but I played it and it actually wasn't bad at all. There were some errors here and there but nothing egregious, and not bad for an unedited first pass. Also, the VN itself was a bit better than I expected.

>> No.12746478

>>12746442
>not using a comma for listing things

>> No.12746486

>>12746474
>nothing egregious

How did you come to this conclusion?
Things like this are pretty egregious errors in both English and Japanese.
>>12745437

>> No.12746492

>>12746486
Nothing egregious means that it was legible. That's all.

>> No.12746494

>>12745642
August has actually shown considerable growth in their moege writing abilities. The biggest difference is the quality of the dialog, which is way better in Daito than Yoake. Yoake was dreadfully dull, while Daito at least has a bit more wit to it and the characters appear much more lively.

>> No.12746501

>>12746486
The english errors are largely not something anyone who isn't an autistic forums poster will even notice. For something that is an unedited first draft, it seems fine.

>> No.12746504

>>12746492

Having "Are the words presented in a way which physically allows them to be read?" as your standard is kinda odd, just sayin'.

>> No.12746511

>>12746501
>It'll be fixed in post

Yeah, we've heard that before. Clannad, Flyable Heart, Widenyo, WA2, Koiken Otome, Clannad again...

>> No.12746517

Lot of cool vns in the pipeline

>> No.12746518

>>12746501
There are no editors nor any plans to edit it.

So...

>> No.12746523

>>12746504
You don't even want to see what people think passes for legible then.

>> No.12746527

>>12746407
JAST presents only comes once a year and by once a year, I mean once every five years.

>>12746421
Good for eggnog.

>> No.12746541
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12746541

Every time. this fucking thread

>> No.12746557

>>12746541
You should be complaining about all the Malaysians and South Americans who don't know Japanese or English but pretend they can translate nonetheless, or the people who encourage them and the atrocious standards they embody.

>> No.12746581

Can someone here translate this vn? thanks

>> No.12746586

>>12746581
oh lol lmao i forot my link

https://vndb.org/v15143

thanks in advance btw im asian

>> No.12746595
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12746595

>>12746586
>>12746586

Sure, give me a sec.

>Ehh.

You're welcome.

>> No.12746680

>>12746130
What does it refer to?

>> No.12746736

>>12746421

Dear Doddles: I think I've figured out a way to reproduce why some people keep ending up on http://www.mangagamer.com/AdultEntrance.php thanks to this anonymous's shilling.

When the aflg cookie is set(and by default it sits around for a few months) and the session cookie (PHPSESSID) is missing\expired(session expires after session, obviously), getting an aflg=18over link will redirect you to http://www.mangagamer.com/AdultEntrance.php

tl;dr, Visit mangagamer, delete session cookie, click that anonymous's link

Also why the heck does mangagamer need to set two affiliate cookies? Master japanese websmiths?

>> No.12746742

>>12746680
Someone's never seen a laxative ad. Or heard any health food spiel about "being regular."

Constipation. Irregular (bowel) movements is the full medical terminology, but "bowel" is usually omitted and "keeps me regular" means you've got healthy shits.

So the line is saying that he's mastered dealing with taking shits.

>> No.12746770

Why the fuck is If My Heart had Wings MG second best seller of the week?

>> No.12746780

>>12745849
>Doesn't appear, his sister barely mentions him once and brings Touji to help Reiji.
Which one ? Natsume or Nana ? And god we will see young Touji, i can't wait.

I hope MG will be able to release more Innocent Grey, i heard Caucasus is really nice.

>> No.12746781

>>12746770
Come on, anon. This isn't hard. You can figure it out on your own.

Here, I'll help you get started. How large do you think the numbers are? Why would anything else MG is selling have any kind of significant numbers this week?

>> No.12746799
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12746799

>>12746586
Why can't heroines have freckles? Why is it always the side characters?

What's wrong with freckles, Japan?

>> No.12746801

>>12746781
To be honest, though, there's a bunch of people I know who are reading it.

>> No.12746806

>>12746801
Do those people know that the translation quality is bad and that they're only getting 80% of the game?

>> No.12746816

>>12746806
They keep complaining about engrish, so yes.

>> No.12746821

>>12746770

They did price-cut it to match steam, but beyond that it's a mystery.

Also, mostly unrelated, but the mangagamer audience really seems to like wincest given how imopara keeps crawling back up the charts and appetite's shitty incest titles keep flying up the charts once they're available and continuing to chart for far longer than is usual. I suspect we'll probably get a lot more appetite announcements next year given that half the shit they put out is about fucking your sister or mother.

>> No.12746833

>>12746799
Freckles are a sign of genetic inferiority

Only girls with high quality genes can be the main heroine

>> No.12746918

>>12746821
Good cant wait for imopara 2 being translated.

>> No.12746943

>>12746918
Imopara2 is too fetishy for me. The loli is practically a toddler and everyone else has at least ten extra cm on their bust.

>> No.12746991

Potential next year MG announcements (not going to think of new partners because it's not worth it):

Moonstone
- ImoPara 2 and Magical Marriage Lunatics

Clock Up
- Either Ero Manga! H mo Manga mo Step-up or Sado Bu

Innocent Grey
- Flowers

Liar-soft
- Okujou no Yurirei-san

BaseSon
- Shin Koihime Musou

minori
- Unless minori wants to release Supipara first, Natsuzora no Perseus or 12 no Tsuki no Eve

Overdrive
- Go Go Nippon 2014

Navel
- Sekai Seifuku Kanojo or Tsuki ni Yorisou Otome no Sahou

>> No.12746995

>>12746991
>BaseSon
>- Shin Koihime Musou
They've already all but said for certain that they're not doing it due to length.

>> No.12746999

>>12746995
They have not ruled out using the fan translation.

>> No.12747003

>>12746995
See >>12744366
>Work being done on a fanTL of Shin Koihime with hopes of getting it licensed
The group seems to actively post on FB and their members stopped being vocal about the current status of the project a few months ago. I'm pretty sure MG will announce SKM next year.

>> No.12747009

>>12746999
>>12747003
It's a Fuwanovel translation of traditional Fuwanovel quality. We've been over this exact misguided attempt multiple times in the past. It's not ruled out in the same way that when a one armed 13 year old tells an NBA coach that he wants to be a basketball superstar, they don't tell them it's not fucking happening.

>> No.12747027

>>12746991
>minori
>- Unless minori wants to release Supipara first, Natsuzora no Perseus or 12 no Tsuki no Eve
If sales from ef and eden aren't good enough for them to start releasing Supipara I doubt they'd let MG release any of their newer titles.

>Innocent Grey
>- Flowers
>Liar-soft
>- Okujou no Yurirei-san
Any reason they'd go for the companies' yuri games over the many other options?

>> No.12747030

>>12746943
Who? The daughter of Hiyori? She is not a toddler but definitely the only loli in imopara 2.

>>12746991
There is a new Go Go Nippon?

>> No.12747042

>>12746991

Mangagamer's next set of announcements is only about half a year away and they haven't even finished releasing games for a majority of those companies. That looks more like a set of 2016 announcements to me, except for
>ImoPara 2

Also:
>- Either Ero Manga! H mo Manga mo Step-up
This shit ain't even out in Nipland yet, no way there'd be a turnaround THAT fast.
Also:
>Shin Koihime Musou
The only way this is happening is if that fuwanovel translation finishes and mangagamer decides "fuck it, good enough"

>> No.12747051

>>12747027
>Any reason they'd go for the companies' yuri games over the many other options?
MG has been getting requests for Flowers and I think Kouryuu himself said on his ask.fm that MG staff members like it.
Okujou no Yurirei-san is probably a bit of a stretch. I actually only had in mind the yuri tag when checking Liar-Soft titles because gahkthun will probably be released late 2015 and MG actually lacks yuri games on their catalogue.

>> No.12747058

>>12747051
>MG actually lacks yuri games on their catalogue.
That makes sense. Like how Kansas hasn't had a volcano in decades, so it's due for one.

>> No.12747074

>>12747027
Flowers is a good all ages title by a company they are already working with, and MangaGamer is working on expanding their all ages line up as they put more emphasis on Steam. Furthermore, their staff have already talked about it. That title at least seems like a relatively safe bet for them to pick up.

>> No.12747089

Innocent Grey doesn't really have "many other options". MG is already translating KnS2, and outside of that, everything else IG has is lackluster. MG seems to be in an experimental phase right now and will probably license Flowers in an attempt to expand their market and see how viable that kind of thing is. Although it being all-ages probably will sink it.

>> No.12747094

>>12747030
>There is a new Go Go Nippon?
Bamboo (Overdrive president) himself said on his twitter a few months ago that GGN 2014 started production. This was due to the success of GGN on Steam.

>>12747027
>If sales from ef and eden aren't good enough for them to start releasing Supipara
I'm actually having good expectations for this project but I suppose that in about two months we'll have the answer,

>> No.12747118

>>12746770
I wonder if it's selling just because people think it's the uncut version after seeing the all ages version on Steam.

>> No.12747122

>>12747094
>Bamboo (Overdrive president) himself said on his twitter a few months ago that GGN 2014 started production. This was due to the success of GGN on Steam.

I dont think he realizes why it was popular but hopefully this encourages them to make VNs for localization

>> No.12747127

It doesn't seem particularly likely but with MG trying to expand their audience right now, maybe they'll license their first proper chuuni game. It would be interesting to see MG announce something like a propeller deal next year.

>> No.12747147

>>12747089
>everything else IG has is lackluster
When has this ever stopped MG?

>> No.12747200

>>12747074

It's just too early bro. They've got both freefriends and KNS2 to put out first.

If I were to suggest a more realistic looking AX announcement list, it'd be more like:

Amber Breaker
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ecchi-mery-and-the-perils-of-the-cosmic-shrine (I suspect mangagamer will be distributing this from twitter communications
New Batch of Ancient shit from Lilith
New Batch of Appetite shit
Maybbeeee https://vndb.org/v12992 if Evangile gets out early and doesn't sell like a dogturd. Else probably something else short from the softhouse seal catalog since it's been a while since one of their titles.
Imopara 2 OR https://vndb.org/v8037, which I've seen them get a lot of requests for, and they haven't done a nexton release in a while.
Sadobu might be a bit early, but it's possible
Probably something decent from one of the other hobibox brands, they really seem big into their mangagamer partnership

>> No.12747214

>>12747127
Gahkthun is pretty fuckin' chuuni dude

>> No.12747303

Where's DxS?

>> No.12747312

Jew project released a new demo of fault milestone one. Pretty mediocre translation.

>> No.12747351

>>12747127

While we're talking about crazy possibilities, since mangagamer seems willing to push the boundaries a bit on loli, I'd like to see them partner up with GLace/galette and bring over some lolige*
*that aren't max-pedo, not too much worse than hiyori's stuff in imopara atleast.
I mean, they're within walking distance* of mangagamer's guys in Japan.

*Also while checking this, I couldn't help but laugh that their office is literally a couple blocks from an elementary school.

>> No.12747391

>tfw when you accidentally spoiled yourself for kara no shoujo 2 thanks to /jp/

raped, pregnant, killed

>> No.12747481

>>12745419
https://twitter.com/The_Doddler/status/539239337989120001
>Holy shit, I just went to check the download stats on the NTY demo. Daaamn, that's a lot more than I expected.
Anon, do you want some popcorn?

>> No.12747872

>>12747481

I, for one, welcome our new fujoshi overlords.

>> No.12747939

>>12746991
>Innocent Grey
>- Flowers
You're the guy that keeps wanting them to do it, right? Stop with the wishful thinking.

>> No.12747976

>>12747939

I'm pretty sure mangagamer will do it eventually, but he's dreaming if he thinks it'll be announced next year. Maybe 2016 Otakon.

>> No.12748123

>>12747939
It's by a company they already work with, and as they put priority onto Stream, it's an all ages title that they wouldn't have much problems getting their hands on. It may take some time for them to pick it up, but it's doubtful they will not grab it at some point.

>> No.12748222

>>12745419
>>12747481
Who has more money: lonely nerds or lonely nerdettes? If the latter, will MG change their name to Mainly Gay?

>> No.12748254

>>12747481
Amazing what a little advertising does for you, huh?

>> No.12748269

>>12748254
https://twitter.com/jastusa/status/532735116289007616

>> No.12748287

>>12748269
It would help if they used a CG from the game they were actually releasing, wouldn't it?

>> No.12748299

>>12745591
I really like him and really enjoyed reading his cross channel translation and his thoughts on it.

I think I wish it was a bit more organized. And a lot of it feels like he was more certain in beginning the project and then sort of floundered with his confidence on certain parts half way through, but there's a lot of really good observations.

I still like Ixrec's better in terms of sentimentality. But the powerful moments of the VN are the same in both translations, so, it was interesting to read the differences.

---

Overall, I'm still just waiting for SubaHibi. I don't trust Sumaga to get translated.

Ixrec is going to waste his time with Key/WAB projects.

Rance games will keep getting translated even though they never have great plots and aren't generally good games.

Overall, not really a lot in the pipeline that I care about. I'd love to see Saihate no Ima, R07 to get back to real work on good stories, and Suba Hibi translation. Also a non troll Baldr sky project.

>> No.12748354

>>12748287
"A little" advertising is exactly what Jast does, and nothing more.

>> No.12749289

>>12746833
Well, that would certainly explain why they gave Mukuro freckles.

>> No.12749300

>>12747939
No, that's me. I'm glad someone else thinks so, though. Someday.

>> No.12749347

>>12744596
sasuga loss

>> No.12749357

>>12748269
I don't understand why anyone would preorder a game without even a release date set in stone yet. Didn't they learn their lesson with Yumina?

Not like they're going to run out anyway.

>> No.12749398

>>12745152

Curators aren't steam staff, or even picked by steam. Any steam community (for example MangaGamer) can become a curator by clicking a button.

>> No.12749453

>>12749398
And annoyingly, TotalBiscuit is the most popular one. Ugh.

>> No.12749497

>>12745665
>>12745869
It makes me happy to see there are other people out there who understand this. So many people get hung up on whether or not something is "generic" that they don't even stop to consider whether or not it is actually GOOD. That word is thrown around in a negative way far too often when it doesn't even have to be negative. I don't always need a groundbreaking product, a lot of the time I'm just happy to have something that does the usual and does it genuinely well. To me, sincerity is far more important than originality, and this applies to many different things.

>> No.12749532

>>12749453
I don't see why you would particularly care, of course efamous PC reviewers are going to be the most popular curators. It's like complaining that Naruto is popular.

>> No.12749644

>>12746026

December comes again, but where is my angel?

>> No.12749666

>>12748299
>Ixrec is going to waste his time with Key/WAB projects.
MG will shut down any WAB project and I don't think Ixrec is enough of an ass to stealth TL one. That'd be pretty rude.

>Overall, I'm still just waiting for SubaHibi. I don't trust Sumaga to get translated.
Sumaga is already translated. It's just in JAST hell. And as for Subahibi, I talked with Kirby a long time ago, and he said the last bit of it has been much harder than the rest, I don't really remember why. I think it was actual difficulty being an obstacle.

>I'd love to see Saihate no Ima
I'm sorry for your loss.

>Also a non troll Baldr sky project.
Please wait warmly!

>> No.12749731

>>12749666
Sumaga's translated like Yumina was translated. It's a hodgepodge of three or four different people without consistency or editing.

>> No.12749765

>>12749666
>I don't think Ixrec is enough of an ass
I don't think you can get much more of an ass than the Muv-Luv situation, regardless of if it was taking ages or not, it has more or less killed the chance of ever seeing any age stuff officially TL'd.

Although Kouki was tweeting the news about Sakura Spirit selling well on Steam and he'll probably hear from bamboo about how well GGN sold too so there's a tiny bit of hope I guess.

>> No.12749915

>>12749532
Naruto is a lot better than TB. Kishimoto doesn't treat his fans as if they're expendable and actively lie just to stir up shit.

>> No.12749922

>Jast overhauls site
>fucks up age gate

>> No.12749972

>>12749666
>I'm sorry for your loss.

The fuck is this supposed to mean? I think you were trying to sound cool and used the wrong phrase.

>> No.12750016

>>12749972
I believe he's referring either to
1) The fact that SnI will probably never be translated, leaving you waiting forever; or
2) If SnI ever gets translated, it will be a disappointment as most of its praise is due to its writing, something that will inevitably be butchered in translation.

>> No.12750086 [DELETED] 

>>12750016
Then he should try being clear next time instead of using some stupid meme that doesn't fit the situation. The fact that there are multiple possibilities even to someone who understands it means that he's already failed.

>> No.12750124 [DELETED] 

>>12750086
I understood him perfectly fine, and I'm not even reading this thread. You're clearly lacking insight into the /jp/ culture if you can't.

>> No.12750422

http://steamcommunity.com/app/269250/discussions/0/540744937499529942/#c624076027815159885
>we're also working on getting episode.02 ready for release by end of winter.
So... no WEE episode 2 this year? Winter ends in february.

>> No.12750495

JAST is now showing a December 16th release date for Romanesque. I guess it's actually going to happen.

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12750559

Ded thread.
Ded board.
Ded scene.
Weekly reminder.

>> No.12750695

>>12750495
Nope.

>> No.12750808

Man, official releases are slow as fuck.

MangaGamer aside, how the fuck does Jast even stay afloat with their release schedule?

>> No.12750861

>>12750495
http://www.jastusa.com/littlewitch.html

I like how this was advertised literally nowhere else but as part of a silent update to the game's store page. They even have an active twitter account that didn't bother to announce this fact. Good fucking job on that one, JAST.

>> No.12750945

>>12750422
>Unity port
What? Why?

>> No.12750966

>>12744366
>>Kyoudai Hiai - Released
Crack when?

>> No.12750988

>>12750808
They don't need to. JAST is just Peter Payne's side project. J-List brings in the money.

>> No.12751013

>>12750966
Funny how nukiges usually take longer to be cracked compared to story-oriented titles.

>> No.12751031 [DELETED] 

>>12750124
>muh board culture

Get out.

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>>12751031
No, you get out. Using 'muh' and similar memes is detrimental to discussions. Please circlejerk elsewhere with your stupid 'too lazy to explain' memes and don't bring that shit into /jp/.

>> No.12751059

>>12750861
>December 16, 2014

Really? I thought this wasn't expected for months yet. Since when does JAST move this quickly?

>> No.12751062

>>12751059
It went Golden Master last month, so they were holding true to their "release by end of year" promise.

>> No.12751066

>>12751059
They've been saying for months that it would be out by the end of 2014.

>> No.12751070 [DELETED] 

>>12751053
That's hilarious, since /jp/ is nothing but memes outside of this thread and your post contains even more of them. Even this "board culture" shit is a meme, which moot even told people to shut the fuck up about but they still keep it going like it actually means anything. Enough goddamn memes.

>> No.12751099

>>12750861
I saw an ad for it on Nyaa

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12751109

>>12751070

>> No.12751152

>>12751099
Use adblock. Don't give the cartel money.

>> No.12751168
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12751168

>>12751099
I wonder if they realize that they used a picture of someone's grandma being fucked in it.

With >>12748269, I doubt it.

>> No.12751177

>>12750945
It's being ported to Unity so it can be ported to the Vita. It was one of the stretch goals of the kickstarter.
They're also updating the assets to full HD.

>> No.12751263

>>12751066
I guess, I just haven't had much faith in their ability to make a timely release since Yumina. Nice to see they didn't make such a mess of things this time though.

>> No.12751314

>>12751152
J-LIST doesn't work like regular ads. J-List has an affiliate program, not an impression program. Which means you don't get money by how many see the ads, you get a cut when people click the ad and buy something.

>> No.12751366

>>12751314
I thought it was both.

>> No.12751395

>>12751263
It would have been out over a year ago if Littlewitch hadn't be assholes.

>> No.12751441

https://twitter.com/The_Doddler/status/539535564538531840
>Reading a comment from someone bothered by incest in one of MG's games. I keep forgetting that not everyone sees that as a feature.
Why do you guys continue to have such bad taste?

>> No.12751466

>>12751441
Why does Doddler post so much about shitty nukige and so little about every other game he works on?

>> No.12751543

>>12751441
That reminds me of when I played Kanon. It was my first eroge (I'd just played a few all-ages VNs before that) and the fact that you fuck your cousin really weirded me out at the time.

Nowadays I complain if the sister heroine isn't blood-related.

>> No.12751550

>>12751543
Too bad you couldnt fuck your aunt. Or not bang the two sisters at a threesome.

>> No.12751558
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12751558

>>12751543

>> No.12751922

What the heck does JAST even stand for? I'm guessing the first two letters are Japan Adult?

>> No.12751935

>>12751922
JApan System Technologies.

http://www.jast.jp/en/corporate/history/

>> No.12751943

>>12751935
Oops, meant Techniques.

>> No.12751950

>>12751935
Did... Did Peter Payne fucking STEAL the real Jast's logo? Because it fucking looks like Peter Payne stole Jast's logo.

>> No.12752059

>>12747089
Actually, I think Flowers being all-ages would work in its favor here. All-ages shit seems to be all the rage now, especially with VNs going up on Steam what seems like every other week. Also, before Flowers was released everyone said it would bomb for not having any sex yet lo and behold a second batch was printed almost immediately, and it got ported to both the PSP and Vita. There is a sizable yuri audience here who would probably be willing to buy it. Morinaga Milk's Girl Friends even made it onto the best-selling New York Times manga list, after all.

If MG were to license Flowers it wouldn't surprise me if it ended up selling more than KnS and Cartagra.

>> No.12752081

>>12751950
Looks like you're a blind motherfucker.

>> No.12752112
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>>12751950
It's suspiciously similar, isn't it? The original JAST eroge company's logo looked nothing like that.

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12752120

>>12752081
Yeah. On one, the gap in the A is on the left. In the other, the gap is on the right. Completely different.

>> No.12752707

>>12746806
>and that they're only getting 80% of the game
Do you get the full game with the uncensor patch or some part of the game are still missing ?

>> No.12752717

>>12751922
Jesus, Assholes, Start Translating!

>> No.12752971

>>12752717
But most of their stuff is translated ages ago. Their problem is releasing shit they already translated.

>> No.12752987

>>12752971
They're waiting for the right timing. No wonder you're not successful.

>> No.12753009

JAST USA is best visual novel company. They have better games, the coolest partners, Makoto the translator, Moogy the celebrity, J-List as their almighty backer! They rule, basically

>> No.12753023

>>12753009
Peter, are you jealous of dovac's fame on /jp/?

>> No.12753226

>>12751441
I don't have anything against it at all, but saying people have "bad taste" for disliking it is pretty dumb. However, they shouldn't play the game (or at least that character's route) if they don't like that.

>> No.12753234

>>12746806
I highly doubt anyone who purchased the game honestly cares about what was cut. Sex scenes and dirty jokes, woo, what important story content.

>>12753023
That's really old kopipe.

>> No.12753257

>>12753234
Sound like censorship to me.

>> No.12753263

>>12753257
abloobloo censorship in my moege

>> No.12753267

>>12753263
Censorship in anything rubs me the wrong way, especially if it's cut content.

Thankfully the fanpatch exists.

>> No.12753272

>>12753267
Which doesn't even restore everything.

Yeah censorship is lame, but my point is the things that are censored do not matter to most people who would be playing this on Steam. The translation quality is the more important thing here.

>> No.12753273

>>12753272
>Which doesn't even restore everything.
What's missing ?

>> No.12753276

>>12753272
Well, Steam people can go fuck themselves then.

I wouldn't touch a censored game knowing uncensored version exists.

>> No.12753277

>>12753272
If you count mistranslations by people who don't know Japanese as a form of censorship, it's still extremely censored.

Both the fanpatch and the original.

>> No.12753278

>>12753272
> the things that are censored do not matter to most people who would be playing this on Steam
Stop making up things and go read fucking steam forum. Everyone is complaining about censorship.

>> No.12753285

>>12753273
I forget what exactly it was that was missing, but if I remember correctly it only restored the sex scenes, not the changed scripts (the latter of which would be preferable to restore, too).

>>12753276
Well, they are the ones paying for the game, not you. If it sells well, Moenovel made the right choice.

>>12753277
Yeah, that is the actual problem. If anything needs to be restored, it's the translation, but nobody's stepped up to the plate.

>> No.12753286

>>12753277
Mistranslation is a problem, yes.

Cut content is simply a bigger problem, it's not just translating it wrong, it's refusing to translate and cut said part from the game.

>> No.12753293

>>12753285
Well, I can do one thing: not supporting any of this by not buying the game.

>> No.12753469

>>12753278
And those are not people who are playing the game on Steam. Hurr durr.

>> No.12753471
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12753471

What does this even mean?

>> No.12753480

>>12753286
Not necessarily, depending on if it is replaced by something that keeps the story cohesive (which is not difficult when it comes to sex scenes). It is still a full game, just not the same game.

>>12753293
Yes, you can. The question is if your lack of a purchase will even matter.

>> No.12753506

>>12753471
Short fences.

>> No.12753535

>>12753506
You are not funny.

>> No.12753536

>>12753506
I hope you're not the same idiot that thinks that's a bad metaphor.

>> No.12753541

>>12753471
Haven't played the game yet but given what other VNs have I can only assume it has to do with some option to change text speed or font or something like that. If it's on, there must be some other menu that it activates.

>> No.12753596

>>12753471
The panel for controlling the text log in the game can be turned on or off. Some people don't like accidentally pressing FUCKWORLDSKIPALLTHESHIT and missing out all the important dialogue.

>> No.12753872

>>12749765
Thank god Ixrec chose to burn the bridge with age of all companies. They haven't released anything of quality since muv luv :)

>> No.12754041

>>12753872
Certain parts of Chronicles are pretty great and Schwarzesmarken LNs are too so I'm looking forward to the VN. TE was a mixed bag and by no means is it very good but the biggest problem is people only judging it on the mediocre anime because they can't read the VN, like you :^)

>> No.12754113
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12754113

How many years until JAST releases Kimi to Kanojo to Kanojo no Koi?
10 years? 15 years?

>> No.12754124

>>12754113
What on earth makes you think they're going to start working on that? They still have a number of projects that are going to take years to come out.

>> No.12754125

>>12754113
It doesn't even run right on the Japanese systems and OSes it was designed for. What makes you think it'd be able to run on English ones?

>> No.12754126

>>12754041
At least we can agree on one thing, and that's the best smiley face.

I thought this whole thread was EOPs discussing in depth games they hadn't played?

>> No.12754133

>>12754124
Not him, but vvav said he'd be willing.

>> No.12754138

>>12754133
Oh, I wasn't aware of that.

>> No.12754143

>>12754124
>>12754125
Their partnership with Nitro+ means no one else will translate it. So they will go through other projects, eventually get to it, and release it in a decade and a bit. Around 2025

>> No.12754145

>>12749765
Commercially they only have reason to localize TE really and creatively I'd think he'd still be set on getting Kiminozo out first.

Realistically I think even in a best case scenario any age game wouldn't have been getting an English release until around now at the earliest because of the amount of legal and financial reorganization they were doing and how much work the management were involved with in the TE push.

Yoshida knows there's a market of some sort and has some connections to the west but he's never been in a rush to do much of anything unless it's free PR. Even their last anime took two years to get licensed for home video.

>> No.12754151
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>>12754143
My basis for that is Hanachirasu.
Hanachirasu was released in 2005, got translated in 2010, and will be released sometime in 2015/2016.
Kimi to Kanojo to Kanojo no Koi got released in 2013, so give it 11 years and it'll be around 2024. JAST Time in action.

>> No.12754172

>>12754143
It's such a shame that Nitro+ is JAST territory. MG would do a much better/faster job.

>> No.12754173

>>12754145
>TE
And kill the franchise in the west forever with how shitty the TE game is?
No thanks.

>> No.12754205

>>12754172
I'm okay with Makoto level translations taking a little longer. It's not like the games are going anywhere.

>> No.12754228

>>12754205
True, but is he really even active at the moment? When's the last time a translation of his has been released?

>> No.12754252

>>12754173
It's far from shitty and to be fair it would sell better than releasing part of the main trilogy considering how long it's been out TL'd now, unless you were to release the all ages versions on Steam with both ML+Alternative at the same time I can't really see it doing well. KimiNozo I think would still be the best thing to be released first, especially considering how popular school days and things are in the west.

>> No.12754487

>>12754151
>Hanachirasu [...] will be released sometime in 2015/2016.
How optimistic.

>> No.12754497

>>12754252
Having read it, I'd definitely call it shitty and turned me from being a hardcore agefag and buying whatever they shit out to not wanting anything to do with anything they make from here on out.
Granted, this was that mess of a console release but even so.

>> No.12754532

>>12754497
That might be why, I think the PC version was better with the majority of the things, having the anime original episodes done, a proper afterword and improved CGs. I personally liked the cast a lot, so maybe that's where we differ, my only real dislike in the story was the Coup bit with the Allegiance/RLF.

>> No.12754558

http://forums.mangagamer.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11&start=525#p10820
Is this the most promising title Moonstone has announced in years?

>> No.12754560

>>12754126
>EOPs

Nice meme.

>> No.12754571

>>12754558
Judging a VN based on the opening is so dumb.

>> No.12754666

>>12754571
Indeed. Otherwise Lass would be a maker of kamige.

>> No.12754683

>>12754560
>EOP
>meme
LOL
O
L

>> No.12754685

>>12754683
Is that an /sp/ meme?

>> No.12754703

>>12754666
Or Muv Luv Alternative would be a great VN

>> No.12754732

>>12754703
Only good part of the MLA OP is the salute.

>> No.12754734

>>12754558
Why didn't you post about Tsuki ni Yorisou Otome no Sahou that was mentioned a few posts below the one you linked to? Now that's something worth getting.

On this note, besides the shuffle franchise, MG never announced any other games from Navel. Is Navel not allowing MG to work on other titles or does MG staff consider that it's not worth getting other titles from them? I find it strange that in the years that have passed we never saw anything else from Navel.

>> No.12754762

>>12754703
>>12754732
Epic, I forgot all about the "We can't like things that /a/ like" meme

>> No.12754793

>>12754762
I like MLA though I have my complaints about the pacing. Calm your autism, faggot.

>> No.12754884

>>12754734
Well, to be fair Navel hasn't really released a lot besides Shuffle and Soul Link, which we also got. There was Oretsuba, Seikai Seifuku Kanojo, and most recently Tsuriotsu, and that's it.

>> No.12754886

>>12754133
Translating it would completely defeat the purpose of a number of a scenes.

>> No.12754895

>>12754734
I heard Navel wouldn't give them Oretsuba.

>> No.12754953

>>12754895
The rights for Oretsuba are wrapped up with the console version's publisher and they're dicks.

>> No.12754983

>>12754884
Tsuriotsu would be cool, but it's kind of risky for an unknown title in the west of that length.

>> No.12754996

>>12754793
Seriously, it was great but that hive mission was fucking terrible

>> No.12755004

>>12754886
How some scenes would get translated seems like a very difficult thing.
I don't actually know how they'd do it

>> No.12755019

>>12754996
They ran out of budget, it's their biggest regret as well but you can't do much about it. Kouki had already mortgaged his house and car to at least get it finished.

>> No.12755026

>>12745154
The translator tweeted it's now at 50.07%

>> No.12755032

>>12755019
I mean, they could've found some-way to spread out the deaths of the main cast, at least a little bit, right?
Seriously, The Captain and Marimo getting "better" deaths than everyone else is terrible. I mean Meiya's was great, but the rest were terrible

>> No.12755107
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12755107

Can someone explain to me why JAST is so slow with their releases?
I still don't understand

>> No.12755110

>>12755107
Because literally everything goes through Makoto.

>> No.12755120

>>12755032
Not really, everything roughly after Sadogashima is rushed really because they ran/were nearly out of money, it was already delayed to hell and back as it was too. I agree it was incredibly disappointing, but not much that could have been done unless it was split with an extra release which is risky and it would have lacked the build up that was done over the whole of Alt.

>> No.12755197

>>12755107
>http://forums.mangagamer.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11&start=525#p10820
Doddler answered that here. It's mostly not being prepared plus flaking translators and of course, Makoto being the only person doing anything on a lot of the projects.

>> No.12755212

>>12754113
I do really hope this game gets translated eventually. It is something that people need to experience. Even if JAST does it and it happens exactly like that.

>> No.12755215

>>12755197
You seem confused.

>> No.12755231

>>12753480
That's faulty logic.

When you cut the sex scenes, a part of the game is lost, no matter how much you shit you put onto it, it's not the "full" game, it's the censored ad-hoc version with some other stuff packed into it.

>> No.12755281

>>12755231
The worst parts of the game. The Realta Nua version of Fate/Stay Night is much better than the original +18 version of the game.

>> No.12755328

>>12755281
If the H-scenes in F/SN weren't as bad as they are then they game wouldn't be worse without them, besides RN adds tons of stuff anyway.

>> No.12755342

>>12755197
Wrong thread?

>> No.12755348

>>12755328
>If the H-scenes in F/SN weren't as bad as they are then they game wouldn't be worse without them
So if the H-scenes are better, the game may be worse?
Better H-scenes implies worse game?

>> No.12755390

>>12755281
I don't know how better it is, shit's still censored.

The best version would be +18 version with additional stuff.

>> No.12755395

Is anyone even working on the crack?

>> No.12755404

>>12755348
I'm not the guy you were arguing with originally but my point was that the H-Scenes in F/SN were awful and the game is better without them as they are, if F/SN had actual good H-Scenes and they weren't so awfully written and RN had no additional content then the original would be superior. The ideal option would be if RN had just improved the writing of the H-Scenes and made them less awkward but you can't do that for a console release.

>> No.12755416

>>12755395
The crack for what?

>> No.12755429

>>12755416
For the only released VN on the list. What else, you fucking moron?

>> No.12755439

>>12755429
Daitoshokan no Hitsujikai?
It's the OP, and releases are always in the OP.

>> No.12755450

>>12755439
Crazy concept, but how about you actually read the update list, and not only check the OP pic.
I mean Kyoudai Hiai, of course.

>> No.12755483
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12755483

>put the word "gaming" on product
>/g/howls and rages
>put the word "business" on same product, like "business laptops"
>/g/ raves

>> No.12755524

>>12755395
No. Buy it, fucking pirate scum.

>> No.12755528

>>12755483
That's my favorite VN too!

>> No.12755560

>>12753234
>Sex scenes and dirty jokes, woo, what important story content.
There are people who play moege for story instead of sex and jokes?

>>12754558
Yeah, but you'd be hard pressed to find a lower bar than that. Somehow I'm skeptical that Kure decided to start writing good eroge again though.

>> No.12755954

>>12755560
A moege by definition doesn't have a story.

>> No.12756645

>>12755954
You clearly haven't ever read any, because that's fucking wrong. While there is a story in moege, it's not overly dramatic and uses comedy antics. The game appeals to its readers by focusing on the cuteness of its heroines and moe elements.

>> No.12756769

>>12755231
I wasn't trying to claim it was the same game though. I'm saying it is A full game. Which it is. And that is enough for some people.

>> No.12756788

Wonder why the Fault demo hasn't gotten much attention here. Not enough pointless sex scenes for your highbrow tastes?

>> No.12756796

>>12756788
Yes, that is definitely the reason we are all ignoring what's basically an unknown amateur game with a below average translation. You're so right.

>> No.12756797

>>12756788

Fuck off dovac.

>> No.12756883

>>12756788
Why talk about that when I can talk about this gay shit?

http://ask.fm/MangaGamerStaff/answer/118275615986

>> No.12756897
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>>12756883
Look at that tiny spoiler.

>> No.12756902

>>12756897

Maybe he's a grower, not a shower.

>> No.12757030

>>12756796
Nobody's even talking about the problems with the translation is the thing. Even other SP games get that.

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>>12755026
Awesome. It has exceeded the 50% mark. Good luck Maria!

>> No.12757181

>>12754886
>>12755004
Explain?

>> No.12757211

>>12757181
They're in Japanese.

>> No.12757266

https://twitter.com/kizamiyuuyas/status/540064823623430144
https://twitter.com/kurokibatora/status/539816283215114240
Why is this still a thing, it makes my head hurt. Would be better off not dealing with this retarded fan-base.

>> No.12757351

>>12757266
It is common knowledge that selling pretty much anything on this planet is much easier when your buyer is a retard. Thus, you grind your teeth and deal with them in spite of yourself for a continued stream of shekels flowing into your pocket.

>> No.12757405

>>12757181
Just elitism. Ignore it.

>> No.12757622

http://blog.mangagamer.org/2014/11/25/testers-corner-cartagra-ed-vol-3/#more-8119

If only they did more of these before releasing Cartagra. Made the VN seem really interesting. lrn2marketing, MG.

>> No.12757642

>>12757622
You know, you can still buy it.

>> No.12757676

>>12757642
I will, although, I'm waiting for a KnS trilogy bundle. Maybe that's a bad idea since their sales aren't all that good.

>> No.12758069

>>12757676
>a KnS trilogy bundle
This will never happen. And it makes me sad.
The future is No Thank You guys ! Shitty community.

>> No.12758088

>>12758069
Why won't it happen? It seems fairly logical, albeit probably not for some time.

>> No.12758097

>>12758069
Maybe if people actually bought it instead of "Waiting for a bundle" "Waiting for a physical copy" which won't happen if there's no sales in the first place and will never happen anyway because after you've read something unless it really resonates something special within you you're not going to buy it, especially not for full retail price.

>> No.12758138

>>12758088
Fairly logical if Innocent Grey titles had not flopped so hard at their outputs. People tend to prefer Imouto Paradise but we can't blame them. It's a brainless nukige after all.

>>12758097
I bought Cartagra and KnS. If there is someone to blame it's MG for their bad marketing.

>> No.12758302

So why are people buying his shit? Making them gender neutral for what?! https://twitter.com/dobacco/status/540270049227862016

>> No.12758361

>>12758302
Well, the original called them 'neko' (in katakana), which is gender neutral too. 'Cat girl' won't work if there are males. That said, doesn't look like the kind of game that would bother with males, but it might make mention of them?

>> No.12758368

https://twitter.com/jastusa/status/540289161329405952

>> No.12758375

https://twitter.com/koestl/status/540267360079581184 120 for all 3 games? Fucking jews i will just pirate the game after all these faggots who paid for it

>> No.12758387

>>12758368
Every time I see an announcement from JAST that isn't "Muramasa is going to come out tomorrow" I cry. That aside I'm looking forward to Hanachirasu.

>> No.12758405

>>12758375
That's $40/game for hardcopies, $26/game for digital. That's cheaper than most for games of that length compared to MG or Jast, and miles cheaper than their Japanese counterparts. I don't like sekai, but that's kind of a dumb thing to complain about.

>> No.12758415

>>12758368
Did something happen at Jast to make them actually start doing stuff? They have Romanesque in a couple weeks, the Kana remake shortly, and Hanachirasu nearing golden master now.

>> No.12758425

>>12758375
That is a pretty good deal. Looking at vndb, Grisaia itself would cost $105 by itself to import a windows version.

>> No.12758473

Nice to see Jast is back up and running. The Nitro+ vns are much more interesting than any of the licenses MG has.

>> No.12758497

Uh, guys... Was Ley Line dropped?

>> No.12758519

>>12758368
Listed on site with a Feb 10th release date.

>> No.12758549

>>12758473
If Jast actually keeps up releasing titles at a regular pace then they are in a very interesting spot as the Western VN market expands. They are the company that can get by far the most sales for 18+ content through their own platform, have a strong partnership with NitroPlus, and probably have the most leverage with negotiating for licenses in Japan.

>> No.12758583

>>12758405
You clearly don't have any idea whatsoever how long the second and third games are.

Here's a hint. If you put them both together, they'll still be shorter than the first.

>> No.12758610

>>12758583
And the first game is like 25-40 hours for all routes depending on reading speed. That's still a solid amount of content even if the other games are shorter.

>> No.12758633

>>12758610
So being charged an appropriate amount for one game's content justifies being charged twice as much for the same amount of content in the other two?

Or, more likely, is it just you preying on their audience's ignorance, Dovac?

>> No.12758684

>>12758425
>Grisaia itself would cost $105 by itself
That's because it's J-List. In practice, it would theoretically cost you $55 (http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=LTD-PCG-01238&page=top%2Fsearch%2Flist%3Fs_keywords%3Dgrisaia%24pagemax%3D40%24getcnt%3D0%24pagecnt%3D3)) if it weren't sold out there; you can probably find it elsewhere for just a bit more (and then shipping and/or proxy costs).

But yes, the point remains that Sekai's release is a lot cheaper than importing the Japanese version.

>>12758583
Even then, $27 per game is relatively cheap, even compared against other Western releases (which are always cheap as shit). The latter two are roughly the same size as Deardrops (3.73 MB, 1.83 MB, 1.47 MB; Deardrops is 1.64 MB) which MangaGamer sells for $45.

>> No.12758688

>>12758633
Uh, the latter two games were full-price in Japan as well. To get all three when they were released would have cost you nearly $300.

I don't like Dovac either, but I don't really see what the problem is with that pricing.

>> No.12758696

>>12758633
>So being charged an appropriate amount for one game's content justifies being charged twice as much for the same amount of content in the other two?

Hey, that's exactly what MangaGamer did with the Higurashi Kai releases. Except there the original doujin games were tons cheaper than what they were asking for it. And they didn't tell us until AFTER we bought Higurashi 1-4. (Higurashi 1-4 was sold in one package for ~40 euros. Afterwards, it was announced Kai would be released per episode, priced at 20 euros per episode.)

And back then, not a single one of you complained. I tried my best to tell MangaGamer this is bullshit and a big insult to their loyal customers, but you guys didn't give a shit because you all just pirated everything anyways.

>> No.12758705

>>12758696
>not a single one of you complained
Uh, no. This is not true in the slightest.

>> No.12758711

>>12758497
Nope, is in editing but you can forget about it for a while since the guys working on it are slow as hell
Just for reference, it took them a full year and a few months to release ShiniKiss once they completed the translation because "editing" and "lolololol technical problems"

>> No.12758714

Any reason why Jast isn't officially releasing Kikokugai anytime soon?

>> No.12758715

>>12758549
Sekai has leverage, kind of.
If they actually release their products.

>> No.12758717

>>12758711
Given the quality and length of Shinikiss and how editing takes so much longer than translating, they seem to be the kind to spit out utter shit (aka probably Google Translate), call the 'translation' complete, then spend forever trying to clean it up.

>> No.12758721

>>12758714
Same reason they took so long to release Hanachirasu
Same reason reason it will be forever until Kimi to Kanojo to Kanojo no Koi will be released
Engine problems.
Only way we got it here is through importing it into the Saya no Uta UI.

>> No.12758738

>>12758387
>That aside I'm looking forward to Hanachirasu.

The fuck? Go read it then. Unless you mean you're looking forward to being able to pay money for Hanachirasu and support the industry, in which case carry on. But if you want to read it, don't let JAST stop you.

>> No.12758739

>>12758375
Holy cow, $30 for that quality VN? I'm surprised it's not $60 or $90 like VNs of that quality

>> No.12758756

>>12758715
Indeed, Sekai has a shit ton of leverage right now for the type of titles they are willing to bring over, though they have lost at least 1 title (Fata Morgana) because their kickstarters ask a lot of the Japanese companies.

>> No.12758760

>>12758739
Ti9 please

>> No.12758768

>>12758756
Their shit ton of leverage from... the failure of Planetarian? Their ability to run a Kickstarter?

>> No.12758783

>>12758768
I think we all know that if Giga ran a Kickstarter for a Baldr Sky translation, it would fail miserable. They need Sekai Project's sterling reputation and assistance.

>> No.12758793

>>12758549
Jast has been a giant management mess for a while, but there's enough projects at this point just sitting on finished translations that they can probably knock them off one at a time for a while. We might see a decent burst of activity until they go back into project hell.

>> No.12758797

>>12758768
Kickstarter + Steam success

Clannad is going to do very well, WEE got $100k, an incomplete no name doujin game just got more than $50k. Hell just getting Clannad + Grisaia is a sign of the leverage that they have. Sakura Spirit might be OELVN, but it was also a huge success on Steam with nothing more than some decent art.

>> No.12758814

https://twitter.com/balanime/status/539948657919815680
I want Eroge remastered version

>> No.12758836

>>12758814
MG version don't have ahegao ?

>> No.12758866

Hahaha jewac https://twitter.com/dobacco/status/540315556109234176 he deserves that and i hope more happens to him fucker needs to die in a gutter somewhere

>> No.12758867

>>12758797
Again, so SP's leverage is that they have a Kickstarter account.

Look out world.

>> No.12758882

>>12758836
I think it's a toggle. Although it's hard to understand which toggle actually turns it on.

>> No.12758909

>>12758866
Nice job false flaging death threats for attention, Doorvac.

>> No.12758915

>>12758867
Kickstarter's never failed us before, right?

>> No.12758919

>>12758793
>>12758549
Isn't JAST like 2 people?
What if they just "hire" someone who forces them to push stuff out the door.

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>>12758814
I never understood the appeal of ahegao. I prefer more realistic orgasm faces, not even more ridiculous orgasm faces.

>> No.12758935

>>12758928
You are aware that's completely ridiculous as well.

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>>12758814
I never understood the appeal of ahegao. I prefer more realistic orgasm faces, not even more ridiculous orgasm faces.

>> No.12758942

>>12758935
How is it ridiculous, exactly?

>> No.12758955

>>12758836
It has. The only difference between jap and eng release is the translation and uncensored CGs.

>>12758882
I played Eroge a few months ago but I didn't have any problem setting the options. Of course, I set to always cum inside and maximum hardcore content.

>> No.12758959

>>12758942
Do you really believe that pornography's standard screaming at the top of their lungs like they're being kicked by a donkey orgasms are realistic?

>> No.12759011

>>12758937
How do you know that is realistic?

>> No.12759017

>>12758959
But that's not what's happening there. It's contraction of the muscles with some moaning. The moaning varies per person but the contraction of the muscles (rather than some weird super-expressive face) is realistic.

For context, here is the animated version: http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=850326 (Warning: 32 MB gif, NSFW)

>> No.12759018

>>12758959
What has that got to do with facial expressions, a face like that is far from unrealistic assuming it was pleasurable enough.

>> No.12759082

>>12758867
Sekai Project's leverage is they have big numbers they can show to Japan that others don't have. Yes Sekai Project's success is limited to it's Kickstarter numbers and Steam, and could easily be copied, but because they have a track record of success that others don't, it puts them in a strong position to get licenses.

>> No.12759093

>>12759082
>Sekai Project's leverage is they have big numbers they can show to Japan that others don't have
No they don't. Their numbers are Sakura Spirit and Planetarian.

>> No.12759107

>>12759093
Let me break it down for you:

Negotiation leverage depends on how much money the localization company can bring the production company.

Sekai Project has gained a lot of money through Kickstarter. What they release or even whether they will release it at all is irrelevant - they have the money.

Sekai Project has a lot of leverage because they can bring the companies a lot of money. That is the only relevant thing here.

You can think of Sekai what you want, but the fact that they've already made a lot of money is indisputable.

>> No.12759117

>>12759107
I'm agreeing with you.

Sekai Project has a Kickstarter account.

Therefore, they have nigh unlimited pull to make anybody do everything that they want. They can make dogs fuck cats. They can turn water into wine. They can buy out Jast and turn Peter Payne into their personal slave.

Fucking imbecile.

>> No.12759244

>>12759117
Yes, but then look at results.
Doublefine managed to far surpass their goals on multiple kickstarters, with little to show for it.
But the lottery winner guy who wants to make a game with hookerbots fails. And the talented armikrog kickstarter manages to barely succeed.

>> No.12759258

>>12759244
Then I guess having a lot of money from Kickstarter doesn't mean you are God's gift to the world.

>> No.12759286

>>12759258
>>12759117
>>12759093
It's bizarre how /jp/'s hate towards Sekai Project renders it unable to understand basic, objective facts. Sekai is terrible, so anything that could be construed as positive about them must be false, right?

>> No.12759291

>>12759286
Okay, Dovac.

Go back to tweeting how you're embarrassing Jast and Mangagamer with your shit translations, shit PR, and only success to date being Sakura Spirit.

>> No.12759381

>>12759286
It's not /jp/, it's one person.

That said, I don't think that Sekai Project relying on kickstarter is a positive at least in the long term, and the cash it generates will likely dry up for all but the big hits. WAS is unlikely to be easily repeated for a no name doujin title. But it certainty is true that they could get big licenses a lot easier than MangaGamer at the moment because their results (kickstarter or not) impress Japanese companies who were under the impression that there was no way to make money in the West.

>> No.12759453

>>12759381
Yes, there's clearly only one really bitter person who dislikes Sekai Project. Why would anyone hate them, they're the saviors of visual novels with perfect translations and new exciting titles.

Personally I would think that not many businesses would want to do a kickstarter, it's very unprofessional to do one if you already have the money to do it the traditional way. That's my opinion at least and I know it's really why a lot of other people do dislike Sekai so much. There isn't any stretch goals apart from bullshit made up ones because you're not producing content or making anything. It's not the intended use of kickstarter in the slightest, it just forces people to pay beforehand for the product instead of after it's done and for dedicated fans to essentially just donate money for the crazy high and low tiers.

>> No.12759472

>>12759453
That's what gets me. They keep bragging about their unprecendented success on Kickstarter, then two weeks later, crying poverty and needing to do another one.

>> No.12759479

>>12759453
>Yes, there's clearly only one really bitter person who dislikes Sekai Project.

Actually, what he was saying was that there was only one person who responded to neutral observations by attempting to refute them with 'Sekai Project is bad' (much like you are doing now). And that may be, but it does nothing to refute the actual observation.

And I really hope he's right and you're the only one making these posts.

>> No.12759490

>>12759479
There's obviously just you declaring SP's glory. I can't imagine multiple people being stupid enough to declare the ultimate superiority based on nothing more than hosting a couple Kickstarters.

>> No.12759518

>>12759479
>I really hope
You sure do, dovac. Can't sleep well knowing everyone hates you for what you done to VN scene, eh?

>> No.12759538

>>12759518
What has he actually done to the VN scene? It's the same as it was before.

>> No.12759551

>>12759538
Flooded it with machine-translation grade translation quality zero story boob-bait shit.
Personally I'll never forgive him for butchering NekoPara.

>> No.12759571

>>12759538
He done this: https://twitter.com/sekaiproject/status/540385370827812864

>> No.12759576

>>12759490
The whole point above was that Sekai Project is currently in a position to get big licenses. Seeing that they have got a partnership with Key and picked up the Grisaia trilogy, and Clannad at the very least is doing very well, it's fair to say that they are in a position where it's likely they can pick up other big titles if they so choose to.

It's not about them being better, I personally wish MangaGamer was in a position to pick up more big titles, as they are vastly superior to Sekai Project. But this discussion wasn't looking at the question of "Is Sekai Project good", but rather, looking at the current situation and saying that right now Sekai Project is in a better negotiating position than MangaGamer with regards to the ability to get titles from Japanese companies who are not already working with the West.

>> No.12759600

>>12759551
-Doesn't like zero story boob-bait shit
-Angry over Neko Para being butchered.

Does not compute.

>> No.12759608

>>12759600
The characters in Nekopara are flat. You see, zero story DFC-bait shit is an entirely different story!

>> No.12759609

>>12759576
>it's fair to say that they are in a position where it's likely they can pick up other big titles if they so choose to
If you have absolutely no understanding of Japanese business practices, as you don't, you can say whatever you want.

Doesn't make it true.

>> No.12759633

>>12759609
Do you believe MangaGamer or Sekai Project is currently in a better position to pick up a big title from a company they are not already working with?

>> No.12759637

>>12759633
Completely depends on the company, you can't make a blanket statement like that without taking tons of other factors into account.

>> No.12759653

MangaGamer is going to need people to actually buy their good works or we'll just get crappy nukige after nukige. What is the point of putting work into something if people are just going to pirate it. Still sucks that Cartagra didn't do that great.

The reason Sekai is having success is that kickstarter forces people to put money into these visual novels. Piracy is really hurting this already small industry.

>> No.12759658

>>12759653
Forces is the wrong word.

Tricks or extorts are far more accurate. We wouldn't want to forget Dovac Reddit antics after all.

>> No.12759694

>>12759653
To be fair you have to think, would a kickstarter for something like Cartagra work? Clannad would be guaranteed to sell regardless of if it was kickstarted or not which is why it's such a huge slap in the face to see it on there. WEE managed to get funded mainly on the "By the author of Spice and Wolf" which is already popular in the west, the people who are backing kickstarters like that aren't the people who are going to go and back Cartagra, Muramasa or anything that is more niche and unknown.

>> No.12759714

>>12759694
WAS got 60k and it's as unknown as it gets.

>> No.12759728

>>12759694

Not that guy, and I don't really know if Cartagra could pull in a 100k kickstarter, but I'd like to point out another benefit of kickstarter(aside from destroying piracy) is that it turns backers into evangelists for the product because they're invested. Word of mouth is a very powerful thing, and for most of mangagamer's titles, they're bought in isolation and buyer has no incentive to go and recommend their japanese porn game to friends.

I'm interested to see how the supipara campaign goes. In theory, mangagamer should be able to harnass this aspect of crowdfunding.

>> No.12759778

Speaking of JAST, they're having a week long sale to celebrate their new site. Ends next Monday.

>> No.12759870

>>12759694
lol Kickstarter is basically free money. Sekai Project got a shitload of money for a completely unknown shitty doujin game. Weebs are dumb as shit and throw money at anything vaguely Japanese.

>> No.12759899

>>12759870
This. I made over a hundred grand for my shitty OELVN I made over a weekend and put up there as a joke. (Not gonna say which one it was but you guys have probably seen it around.) It's piss easy to make money on this shit, not sure why more people aren't doing it.

>> No.12759934

>>12759653
Two words: physical editions.

>> No.12760034

>>12759653
I like how elitists hype and fawn over their grimderp REAL DEAL vns to fit in, but when the time comes to buy it, they go for nukiges, you know, the stuff they actually enjoy.

>> No.12760707

>>12759899
Gotta be careful how you use it though. We've just been bleeding money after GBDTE. I think this Dovac guy may end up having the same problem, the way he's going.

>> No.12760712

>>12758866
Holy shit, what is with his nails? This guy runs a company?

>> No.12760815

>>12760712
Hahaha I only just now noticed that. What the fuck, that would be too long even for girls.

>> No.12760837

>>12760034
You're an idiot if you think the same people who buy ImoPara are the same people who talk about Cartagra.

>> No.12761011

>>12760712
i bet he is using that kikestarter money for hormone therapy

>> No.12761059
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12761059

https://twitter.com/MangaGamer

Eden* beta build is ready.

Looking at MGs past track records I'd say we should be seeing a release within two months.

That goes for No, Thank You as well, except I think that will be released within three months instead of two. As for Princess Evangile, I think they'll probably announce the release date very soon.

>> No.12761064

>>12761059
But isn't No, Thank You in beta already? Wouldn't that be in two months and Eden* in three?

>> No.12761065

>>12761059
Waiting warmly for Evangile.

>> No.12761074

>>12761064
NTY went into beta only a week or so ago. Either way, NTY is a lot longer than Eden is.

>> No.12761076

>>12761059
I think length will play a factor in how long it takes to get out. If I had to guess, I'd say Eden, NTY, Evangile for January, February, and March.

>> No.12761107

>>12761076
I hope so, though I think they'll all be released one month later.

>> No.12762051

>>12761059
GET HYPE

>> No.12762079

https://twitter.com/The_Doddler/status/540564355452915712
>We were informed about some cool stuff coming down the pipe at a staff meeting last night, kind of exciting.

>> No.12762087

>>12762079
More nukiage, hype!

>> No.12762163

>>12762087
No, man. They're excited. It's probably Tenka Gomen and Navel Plus.

>> No.12762213

>>12759653

No, MG needs to get it's head out of it's ass and sell what people want in the format they want it. It's bafflingly retarded that they -refuse- to price out physical copies, do preorders, or do jack shit more than the bare minimum.

Only crazy otraku or diehard fans buy a game twice, neither of which are MG's core audience, as evidenced by Cartagra. There are -plenty- of ways for them to deal with physical copies, like the game AND eroge industries have done for DECADES. They simply refuse to, and plug their ears whenever someone tries to bring it up.

They can crash and burn for all I care if that's how they choose to approach glaringly-obvious, easily-solvable problems.

>> No.12762293

>>12762213
It's true, I would be more likely to buy stuff if it was a physical copy because I'm a collector and I like hard copies. I don't think that's just it though, Steam has shown that people will buy digital copies, it's just not the same niche. Really MG need to up their advertising, Dovac shilling on Reddit so much does a lot of good for their kickstarters, releases and so on.

>> No.12762409

>>12762079
I wonder what other stuff they enjoy "coming down the pipe". Or what those "staff" meetings are like, at an ero company

>> No.12762424

>>12762293
Do you think VNs, if they become more mainstream, will become as valuable as old games?
I feel like Phantom of Inferno and Ever17 may become even more pricy.

>> No.12762441

>>12762409
>what those "staff" meetings are like, at an ero company
They eat pocky out of a naked asian lady's bellybutton. Later, they have taiko duels to decide if they're worthy of the licenses.

>> No.12762588

>>12759653
>Still sucks that Cartagra didn't do that great.
In case you want some insight into Cartagra numbers, I bought in on October 14th - order number 016430. Just now I bought ef limited edition - order number 018195.

Pre-orders for ef limited edition started on October 15th. Pre-orders for Cartagra started on September 26th. The sale MangaGamer had on October 10th makes it hard to have a better idea on Cartagra numbers (I also bought a game on this day - order number 016057) but I suppose you can figure out that Cartagra numbers should be around 1000 or less.

Now, if you consider Royal Guard Melissa and Secret Sorrow of the Siblings release along with pre-orders from Space Pirate Sara it becomes very obvious that ef sales are not encouraging at all.

>>12762213
Quite frankly, I think doing this simply isn't enough. As it has been pointed out several times on these threads, MangaGamer has at least four factors they need to address if they want more sales, which are:
- New website (add on this forum and blog but this is just me)
- Allowing purchases without an account
- Marketing
- Re-branding

If someone new to the scene finds out about MangaGamer he will either be thinking he just found out porn games and will be fapping to them or be creeped out by not only the site design but the top 5 sellers as well because they're usually nukige. The chance of someone taking MangaGamer seriously the first time they see them is very low. That someone would need to at least be an anime fan to accept so readily this type of cliched content. Take Eden as an example. A lot of people will for the first time see MangaGamer site because of such release but then, what will they find out? Probably not what they're looking for. Certainly, they'll seriously change their opinion of MangaGamer and will probably ignore other actually good titles the company has because of the image they made on their minds.

>> No.12762822

Smug fucker http://steamcommunity.com/app/333600/discussions/0/624076851010628209/ hope valve sees the light of their shitty business practices

>> No.12763183

>>12762409
The way you put quotation marks around both of those makes them sound like some serious innuendo.

>> No.12763191

>>12760815
>>12761011
Dude's probably a total freakshow. Glad we haven't seen the rest of him.

>> No.12763705

>>12762409
>Or what those "staff" meetings are like, at an ero company

http://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?goods_type=1&product_code=4

Based on the true story of Mangagamer.

>> No.12764122

I think MangaGamer may be a little too proud of the sex stuff they sell. I remember I was following a liveblog of their announcements to see if they licensed something interesting only to be creeped out at them hyping the fact the imouto Paradise had legitimate little sisters. Hell I think they opened one of their last conferences with "~who here likes little sisters?"

>> No.12764154

>>12764122

Go back to tumblr. The blood-related incest is one of ImoPara's main selling points.

>> No.12764196

>>12764122

Imopara's mangagamer's best selling game this year. Can you blame them for pandering to an audience that actually gives them money?

>> No.12764333

>>12762822
Dovac is pretty lazy even when he's answering questions. It is annoying. He needs to do his damn job properly.

That said, we know you are Dovac.

>> No.12764364

>>12764122
>>12764154

Why are not blood related sister a thing ? Nobody like it and normies still thinks it's incest. Nobody's satisfied.

>> No.12764447

I don't care about Cartagra but I will be crestfallen if Gahkthun doesn't do well. There doesn't seem to be that many people talking about it either, which doesn't bode well. Out of everything MG has announced recently that's the only one which hasn't made any waves.

>> No.12764452

>>12764447
Isn't it not coming out any time soon? People will talk about it when it actually is closer to release.

>> No.12764461

>>12764452
People are discussing Euphoria and Ozmafia and they'll probably be released around the same time as it.

>> No.12764463

>>12764461
Yeah but Euphoria is pretty fucking hype. I've been wanting that game for a long time now

>> No.12764611

>>12764364
Basically because certain writers/companies are scared to go whole hog, so to speak. It's the mark of a coward. That's why my respect goes up for anything where they're blood related, regardless of quality or content.

>> No.12764620

>>12764611
Ikikoi got my respect for going the extra mile and making the parents blood related siblings too.

>> No.12764894

>>12764447
I recently started reading Gahkthun myself and it's pretty cool. So yeah, if you're not hyped, you should be. The idea of translating it sounds like a nightmare, though.

>> No.12764963

>>12764894
If anyone can do it justice, I imagine koestl can.

>> No.12765148
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12765148

Do you guys have anything against Blick Winkel and his TLs?

>> No.12765153

>>12764447
Gahkthun would be great, if I liked steampunk.
But I don't

>> No.12765170

I'm hopeful that Gahkthun is just non explicit enough that Steam allows them to put it on there uncut.

>> No.12765193

>>12765153
That seems like a massive generalization. You'd probably still like Gahkthun.

>> No.12765195

>>12764447
They just need to advertise it as the Tesla VN. Tumblrshits will be all over it.

>> No.12765202

http://store.steampowered.com/app/310360/

How long before that stupid shit complains about the sprite again?

>> No.12765262

>>12765202
Hopefully the retards don't spill over from tumblr and twitter, but I'm not holding my breath. Look at these people, jesus christ.

https://twitter.com/OoishiKuraudo
https://twitter.com/memeoruakasaka

>> No.12765293
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12765293

>>12765153
I'm not a huge fan of steampunk either, but at least as far as I've gotten, the steampunk aspect in Gahkthun mostly stays in the background, and the fights like pic related. It would be silly to avoid it just because of that.

If anything it mostly reminds me of Utena.

>> No.12765299

>>12765202
I can fap to that Rika Nipah.

>> No.12765372

>>12765202

I hope he does, there's already a thread up there about censorship.

It'd be hilarious for him to start a thread and get dogpiled by steamaboos

Also apparently the game is going to be six bucks. That's... ambitious pricing. Not quite sure why they picked 5.95 instead of 4.95(to get listed in the under five bucks section) or 9.95(to maximimize cash).

>> No.12765500

>>12765170
Doubt that will ever happen. If you've read any Steampunk title you'll know how important the lewd content is in terms of characterization. Most of those scenes are integral to the plot and if they were to be cut out the development of a couple of characters would take a massive hit.

>> No.12765545

>>12765500
It's lewd but in terms of eroge it's pretty tame. Ero scenes show no genitals for males or females for example. Unlike other eroge, it might be possible to make a case for it not being simply porn.

>> No.12765795

There is a secret english translation of Cross Channel, am I the only one who knows about it?

>> No.12765878

>>12765795
I only know about Ixrec's and George Henry Shaft's. Neither of them are secret. Is there another one?

>> No.12766145

>>12765878
Neither of them are translations either.

>> No.12766148

>>12765545
And the thousands of lines of explicit moaning and descriptions of genitalia?

>> No.12766188

>>12765293
That looks awesome.

>> No.12766266

>>12766145
Maybe, but what else am I supposed to call them? 'English' texts based on the Japanese original? That's long as fuck and "translations" fits good enough.

>> No.12766275

>>12766266
Delusional fanfics.

>> No.12766277

>>12765293
From the Opening and other stuff I've seen it reminded me a lot of Demonbane, but I haven't read it so in reality I know jack shit and could be complete wrong.

>> No.12766303

>>12766277
I don't know anything about Gahkthun or the steampunk series but if it's something that is along the lines of Demonbane + great OST and VA + Sakurai I'm sure I'll immensely enjoy it. Consider me a sold customer.

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