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>>12696633
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Also might have want to link both wiki's event pages.

>>12696642
Fixed one and forgot about the other.

http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Fall_2014_Event
http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C8%AF%C6%B0%A1%AA%DE%D5%BA%EE%C0%EF

>>12696633
> Yamashiro K2
Please, devs. Make it happen already.

>>12696664
Do you have enough medals in stock

>>12696682
Everyone should have enough medals just from clearing the event. Time to shine soon.

>>12696694
Where is your Asagumo?

>>12696698
i killed her

>>12696694
Where's your Isokaze?

>>12696702
Kuso.

Subs are free

>>12696695
Yeah. Shame that there is no new furniture, there's nothing to spend furniture fairy on.

Lv 53 TTK here, took 6 tries on E1 and 5 tries on E2 to clear, did I do good ?

>>12696723
You're not done yet.

>>12696723
Yes.

>>12696723
As a level 53 you're likely to get fucked over by E3.

>>12696729
I'm scared, recently with 3 kai BB and one at lvl 20, also one CV kai and 5 CVL kai, 2 CA kai. from grade "get fucked" to "you're OK" ,which place do I stand ?

I want Yorktown to stop bullying my turkey and let me through the boss.

>>12696741
That's OK. You should be more worried about your resources and equipment though.

thank you super ktkm-sama

fuck e4

>>12696745
>and equipment
Absolutely this. I'm HQ98 with 4 full fleets of 75+ girls and ample resources. I don't do the daily crafting, and E2 is giving me headaches. Equipment is super important.

>>12696745
Thanks for the advice, my resource is increasing since enemies didn't bully my girls to hard, as by equipment,you mean fighter and attack plane right ?

>>12696761
Planes, guns, radars, all of them are important, though planes much more so.

Did anyone figure out how the new mechanic work?

>>12696761
Focusing on getting a nice amount of Reppu is important. Most other things will just fall into place through Kai/Kai2 etc

>>12696795
Luckily for this event 3 or 4 reppu is the most anyone really needs, it's not as extreme as it could be.

>>12696800
I'd be glad to have any really, I'm HQ95 with a single Reppu Kai. I miss out on a lot of potential since I need to fill up a CV with Type 52s usually.

>>12696791

I don't know, but I don't think the new mechanic is better than Akashi.

>>12696821
At that level, you should really be focusing on crafting better equipment. Level scaling seems to take into mind that higher level TTK have decent equipment.

So what is the strategy for E-4?

Following the wiki and the game restrictions, I'm running some kind of fleet that attack with small stuff first and then come in with the big hitters. Feels odd, but maybe it is the better method.

I tried the AA formation at pre boss node, but that bitch pretty much ignores all defenses and shoot whoever she wishes. At least the sending one guy home option helps here.

>>12696826
I've purposely held back since the event was announced, since the next scaling happens at 99

>>12696822
But it looks so cool.

Prinz reminded me yet again why I want Nevada so much. Bitter enemies finding peace at last together in death is so tragic yet beautiful. Chinckolle fags, how does Nevada and Nagato look like there?

Done, last sortie was especially lucky, I didn't expect Nowaki.

Expenses:
~15k fuel/ammo,
~10k steel,
~3k bauxite,
~115 buckets
Short but fun event.

Post event LSC and look who I fucking got. My life is complete.

>>12696873
Asagumo*
Nowaki was expected.

>>12696874
Getting Musashi after event seems to be a common occurrence now.

>>12696882
I got mine right after the last event.
I'm hoping for Bismarck after this one.

post event LSC is a liar

>>12696883
One guy I know spent all his resources, around 100k, for LSC after he cleared E-4 to get Bismarck.
Guess what he got.
Yamato and Musashi in a row

Why is my ship dealing more damage than the value on crit attack? My Samidare has 53 fire power, if it crit then it should be
(53+5)*1.5=87
But she dealt more than 150 on enemy's CL in parallel engagement.

This isn't going too well.

>>12696633
Alright guys, I'm not into japanese.
Could anyone tell me what the problem is here, why I can't go on the quest?

Thank you, Bono.

Thank you, cat god.

>>12696917
There's OCR for miserable beings like you, you know.

>>12696917
Because you haven't assembled combination fleet yet.

Did you drag flag 2 to flag 1 on fleet selection?

>>12696917
You need a combinet fleet.

>>12696921
No, I haven't. I actually haven't played in a long time.

>>12696923
>>12696921
Thanks, I think I know what to do now.

>>12696924
Read the wiki's section on combined fleet mechanics. I think it's under "special mechanics"

>>12696928
>>12696924
Read the last event article for the combined fleet formations too, in case you don't know.

>>12696935
>>12696928
Thank you guys.
Yeah, that was news to me.

What is the limit of LoS in E2, I got 29 and still get into the boss fight.

Of course as I soon as I start using the command facility, Kaga stops taihaing me on every sortie. As expected of kancolle.

>>12696919
https://twitter.com/kozuehayasaka

Her VA's on twitter now.

>>12696942
Ask her who's the best Kongou.

>>12696939
Only the route from C to G has LoS requeriment, right? Even with radars i can't get to the G node.

>>12696959
C/D to G, yes. Wiki says the threshold value is 41 (HQ99+) .

>>12696967
Would it be a good idea to remove more guns from Isuzu and give her more radars? Or should i save my time and stick to the long way?

>>12696973
I made it with 1CL, 5DD. with two seaplane on said CL.

Can the second fleet's flagship sink if she gets shot to red and I continue?

>>12696979
Then i guess there shouldn't be a problem.

>>12696985
No, it doesn't. I tested it out.

>>12696988
Thanks.

is the least painful way to level still 3-2A?

>>12697036
5-5 bucket spam

>>12697036
1-5 A spam
: ^ )

>>12697043
Kitakami doing only 6 damage to the boss.

>>12697043
Fubuki showing who's the main character once again.

>>12697049
>cut-in
Found the problem.

I'm not saying you should migrate but god damn it, at least put some effort on the OPs

>>12697044

>>12697070
No one reads the OP anyway.

>>12697036
I really like 5-4-A personally, though 3-2-A is more efficient.

>>12697073
I heard 3-2A ships cut-in on air attacks now, sometimes costing you 50 bauxite. 5-4A might be better in efficiency if that's the case.

How do you skip to node B in map 4?

I used
1. 2BB 2CAV 2CV
2. 1CL 2CLT 3DD

Exactly in that order as well. I thought this formation is supposed to send my fleet to node B? Am I supposed to use 3CLT and 2DD for my second fleet instead?

I don't mind doing the submarine node, but being able to skip the node would be nice.

>>12697078
I used CAV BB BB CAV CV CV
Slow BBs
DD DD CL CA CLT CLT
Ooyodo as CL and Haguro as CA

Are you enjoying E-5: The Return?

>>12697078
The only time I skipped the sub node was when I used my E3 setup with Kongo, Nagato, 3 cruisers and 1 CV, 1CL/2CLT/3DD, and the battleship combined fleet type.

>>12697088
How much exp can you gain?

>>12697081
Alright, I'll try that tomorrow.

I used slow BBs as well: Nagato and Mutsu

Support expedition fleet doesn't get locked in/out of E3, does it?

Muh buckets. But I like that it's a permutation of my starting count. And my adorable second wife delivering the final blow.

Didn't get an Asagumo along the way. Time for E-5, I guess.

>>12697088
Yeah 200 exp is epic.

>>12697097
What? There is a E5 ?

>>12697099

No buckets, no scratch damage, can be done non-stop, only 80 fuel per run.

>>12697077
I haven't seen AA cut-ins yet in ~15 sorties. Though Nu formation eats about 50 bauxite even with supremacy so it's even.
>>12697088
E-5 was good, this is pure shit. Devs learned their lesson.

>>12697107

Do you have any better idea to level 8 ships at the same time for only 80 fuel?

>>12697116

12 ships asd.

>>12697104
>can be done non-stop
But what about fatigue/morale?

>>12697116
Yes, it's called kancolle is my daytime job. Look, at E-5 I could break 12k exp/hour, 40k+ for flag. Here it would be twice less. It will be faster to level girls normally in the long run.

>>12697122
>It will be faster to level girls normally in the long run.

prove it

Dame, E2 sure is gold mine of rare ships.

>>12697116
How much exact exp does the flag get, and the other ships get per that run?

>>12697121

a DD or CL with ASW equipment will give you damage and will grab MVP which will assure she stays in good shape and since the enemy subs will practically never hit you.

Which map for Akashi and Taigei?

I think someone mentioned Taigei at E1, but I haven't heard anyone said that again and no information for Akashi

>>12697128
One 4-3 sortie gives roughly the same exp as 4-6 E-4 sub sorties. You spend 4-6 times more time for nothing.

I love when Destroyers are useful.

Also, based E2. Finally got a new ship from a drop.

>>12697140
I got Taigei at E1 yesterday. boss note S rank killing blow

>>12697147
>I love when Destroyers are useful.

They're always useful. You just don't love them enough.

>>12697147
Use two main gun instead of cut-in will give you stable and decent damage. cut-in is luck dependent.

>>12697146

- Ta Class
- Used anmo
- Time spent switching ships or waiting for fatigue to recover.

>>12697149
Nice, shouldn't be too bad farming E-1

Now if only I remembered which ships I used for that map...

>>12697140
Three people confirmed Taigei drops at E1 in pre-event thread which is still up. Learn how to read.

BBV: Hyuuga
FBB: Haruna
FBB: Kongou
CA: Ashigara
DD: Shigure
CV: Hiryuu

Would this work for E-1?
This is important. I'm so confused by all the combinations.
Sorry, I know this stuff gets asked a lot.

>>12697155
> Ta Class
Barely a threat, her formation is rare. F5 is paranoid.
> Used anmo
Ammo is by far the easiest resource to get. On the other hand you're getting about 200 bauxite per hour, which easily outweights all other resources spent.
> - Time spent switching ships or waiting for fatigue to recover.
You're doing something different during fatigue recovery. Being glued to a screen for hours sortieing E-4 is simply a waste of time. E-5 was different.

>>12697154
I have two Destroyers with cut in and the rest with two main guns. I haven't tried equiping a ship for cut-ins in a long time so i wanted to give it a try.

>>12697151
I never said anything about Destroyers not being useful. I just said that i love when the're useful. I always love my Destroyers.

i appruv this bread
janny got troll'd :^)

>>12697164
You'll also need a second fleet, since E1 is a combined fleet map. 1 CL/CLT, 0-3 CA, 3-5 DD

>>12697134

Sincerely, not much. but it's resource efficient

>>12697167

I'm not even saying that this is as good as E-5 but it's good enough.

>>12697172
Yes, I was just going to use my E-2 fleet for that.
Using 1CL5DD for it.

First fleet could theoretically hit boss node then ,correct?

How do I avoid getting fucked by tsu torp?

Can you do AA cut-in with the combined fleet? I have already equipped Akizuki's gun and a radar but out of 10 battles 0 came with cut-in.

>>12697174
If it works for you that's fine and all, but it's simply a waste of time when there are far superior options present.

>>12697172
>0-3 CA, 3-5 DD
This is killing me. You can't have 4 possibilities in the first one and then only 3 in the second.

>>12697180
0-2 CA, thanks m8

>>12697175
It's not specifically listed as a working fleet, so worst case you waste a run.

>>12697188
I'm just wary of using CAVs because I only have 2 and I feel like they might be more useful on E-3.

Wow what do we have here...
E2 best map!!!

Could you please translate what
>水母を含む艦隊は70%でG、30%でF
>それ以外は50%でG、50%でF
means? I'll try to deduce everything else on my own. It's branching rule on 2-3.

Everyone's looking happy.

...Who is going to die?

>>12697213
Nagatuki

>>12697212
RNG

DD Fucker denied me of my S-rank

>>12697213
who are those bitches?
all I see is scrap materiel

>>12697212
Fleet w/ AV has 70% through G point, 30% F
others are fifty fifty.

I want out of Yorktown raping my married Taihou from full hp to red on RED T.

>>12697222
Thank you. English wiki has no info on it.

>>12697195
I wasn't having any luck with CAVs in E3 so I swapped them out for BBs and everything went smoothly afterwards.

>>12697233
Ah good. My CAVs are all low level losers anyway.

Come on, guys, show some love to your CA(V)s. They deserve it

>>12697238
>losers

No bullying.

>>12697240
I wonder when Leyte will be announced. I want my Kumano K2.

>>12697240
My only leveled CAVs are Suzuya and Kumano.

Im trying to level Mikuma for E1 but it takes forever and im tempted to just force my way through with a bunch of low level ships.

>>12697240
:(

>>12697240
You haven't even married any of them.
I think you're the one lacking the love.

>>12697240
My CAs are well loved.
Except Kako and Furutaka

Fucking hell, according to wikiwiki the requirement to go C route on E-3 is 2 BBV and no carriers, when I already used my BBVs on E-1. Looks like I should have waited for more route information to pop up.

>>12697248
Not yet. But I level every ship that reaches 99 to reward them so it's coming

>>12697240

>>12697240
Is this good enough?

>>12697240

>>12697257
>Kumano

Does she shout the same in bed?

>>12697257
>marry Kumono
You have a refined choice on lady, sir

>>12697240
Fuck you, man. You don't know me.

>>12697240

I think I'm going to need to spend some more time with few CAs afterwards.

>>12697268
Why would you marry a slut?

>>12697261
I wouldn't have it any other way.
>>12697266
Thank you, sir.

>>12697240

>>12697271

You take that back, she's a lovely girl.

>>12697257
>Aoba lv 10
You disgusting me

>>12697272
Good answer

>>12697284
She used not to be here a week ago.

>>12697240
I have 4 CAV and 6 CA and the lowest of them is 71 Suzuya.

Ever since daytime double attack was added, my CAs regularly saw way more use than BBs on normal maps. The only thing is my limited number of them due to 100 slots; I had to scrap Mogami and Mikuma last event and I won't be bothering with Ashigara or Nachi when they get Kai-2.

>>12697240
This took longer then I thought it would take.

>>12697240
I'm working on it.

>>12697297
Fuck, I knew I overlooked someone. Maya is level 79.

>>12697311
>>12697297
Why not sort them by ship class?

>>12697318
I forgot about it.

>>12697304
Unscrapped duplicates, disgusting.

>>12697294
Go away.

Is there a fleet comp that only uses CAs for E1 and no CAVs?

>>12697331
Keeping them around for modernization, if I ever get to that point.

>>12697240

I'm sorry for calling you a cakewalk E2-sama
I won't do it again
Now will you please just fucking die

>>12697350
E-2 a shit. A shit!

>>12697350
gitgud

>>12697350
Anon, but E-2 IS a cakewalk. Don't rush it, take it easy. It's arguably the most difficult event map, but it's still easy. Burning through buckets will only make your frustration worse. Take a break, poke your shipfu/favourite shipgirl and try again later. I wish you good luck!

>>12697350
tsu class is a fucking faggot.

What is the LoS req for E-2 with 2CL 4DD?

I've beaten the past 4 events. Never--not one single time--have I made it to a boss node with a support fleet out. It feels like sending them out marks someone for first-node-crit-to-red.

As expected of complaining on /jp/.

>>12697355
I just tried it for the first time and the new-model DD at yasen node hit Jintsuu straight to taiha after multiple ships double-attacked it for scratch damage.

Fucking hell, I thought the yasen node would be the easy part since everything there only has single attack.

Gotta love this game.
Out of last 11 runs on E-2 final kill
5 times getting fucked by tsu on node C
2 times getting fucked by night battle
1 time getting fucked by enemy dogpiling 1 ship to red
3 times red T on boss and support fleet kills 1 DD at best

Time for a break

>>12697371
I don't think there is one, I'm trying 2 CL 4 DD and I just got sent north despite observation plane on each CL and type-33 radar on each DD. Looks like I'm going to have to either use CL 5 DD or just F5 every time I get sent east at start (which would conveniently avoid the Tsu at the same time).

What is the air superiority requirement on E-4?

Is there a way to finish E3 without a CLT? I accidentally my KTKM-sama in E1.

>>12697406
At least I'm not alone.

>>12697416
KTKM-sama is not the only CLT you know.

>>12697415
570.

>>12697415
Depends on enemy formation. Forget it if you encounter double Wo. 3x Reppuu on both CVs (assuming it's Taihou and Kaga) is enough for single Wo pattern and the final form.

>>12697420
She's the only one I have and I'm not sure I'll be able to level up Kiso from 19 to... whatever the hell her Kai Ni level is in time to finish the map.

>>12697416
Kill yourself. Now that you mentioned it, where's the guy who made a chart of kuso TTKs way back in summer?

>>12697240
I love them plenty and I will ring Prinz Eugen one day.

>>12697425
I don't think he meant he sank her, shes just locked out.

>>12697425
>Kill yourself.
No bully.

>>12697422
> 3x Reppuu on both CVs (assuming it's Taihou and Kaga) is enough for single Wo pattern and the final form.
Enough for parity, you mean.

>>12697416
Just get some cut-in CAs and CLs. CLTs just make it easier, but the BB princess is easy to handle because you get 15+ attacks to whittle down her HP.

You just need a cut-in or a strong double attack to beat her low HP death save.

>>12697423
Got Yukikaze? What's your HQ level? What are you even fighting on the boss node?

>>12697350
Stop being bad.

>>12697432
No, 60, haven't reached the boss node yet.
RNG-sama is fucking with me yet again. Gotta love all those crits sending me back home after the first node.

>>12697430
Nope, superiority. Reppuu x3 on Taihou, 2x Reppuu and 1x Reppuu kai on Kaga. That's what I used. I assumed everybody obtained Reppuu Kai.

>>12697435
Use support route

Which one is better?

>>12697437
601 reppu 2xreppu fighter bomber Taihou, 2xreppu reppu kai recon Kaga, I always got parity.

>>12697439
I'm not worried about the boss fight, I'm worried about reaching the boss node.
Wikia only offers set-ups with CLTs in them, so I'm not sure if branching rules allow you to reach the boss without any CLTs and not run out of supplies.

>>12697435
Another set of questions:
- got fleet command facility or Ooyodo?
- got enough resources for support expeditions?
If yes, use it.

>>12697440
I went with the left one.

>>12697445
Will do, thanks.

>>12697412
Heh, despite having to fight 3 ammo-consuming battles and only sinking one escort in shelling, I still S rank boss node thanks to torpedoes and finishing cut-in.

Thank you based Yukikaze-sama!

Oh god.

>>12697456
God bless KitaOoi.

>>12697441
Then I have no fucking idea what happened in your case. Another Reppuu on Kaga's 4th slot should be enough, though.

>>12697461
Maybe you simply got lucky, preboss shreds 60-80 air power minimum.

>>12697461
Level 104 and above: 356 for Superiority on first form. 509 on last kill.
Lower level: 347 for Superiority.
http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C8%AF%C6%B0%A1%AA%DE%D5%BA%EE%C0%EF#area4

>>12697467
Pattern 3 is the final form. Patterns 1-2 are random.

Can't see anything related on the wiki, I've done E1 with this same comp 3 times so far but can't sortie now.

>>12697483
Make sure you have 5 ships free and like 20 equips free.

>>12697483
Insufficient number of free equipment/ship sluts.

>>12697491
Slots*. Damn.

>>12697486
>>12697491
Got it, thanks.

I can't seem to get my fleet to go to node G on E-2.

>>12697491
freudian slip?

>>12697498
LoS

All of a sudden, the enemies on E2 only want to attack my Harusame. What's the deal.

>>12697504
How much do I need?

>>12697506
More

>>12697506
Just put two planes on a CL and a radar on a DD just to make sure if you want.

>>12697505
DD hime wants her sister back.

>>12697505
My Ayanami is a fucking crit magnet. Back-to-back runs I got green T at Ri node and she gets critted (once by Ri, once by new-model DD), then followed it up by getting taiha'd by the new-model DD at yasen node one time. And Ri tried to make it taiha both times by targeting her with closing torpedo but missed.

>>12697522
Makes sense.

Now that I think about it. Didn't Harusame sunk during the operation this event is based off?

>>12697524
I didn't had any problems during E1 but since entering E2 Harusame is eating eating all the crits

>>12697528
Yes, during second phase. Level bomber blasted her ass off with a lucky hit.

>>12697528
> Didn't ... sunk
Didn't sink
> didn't had
didn't have

When did you get a job change?

is dmm up for everyone here?

>>12697542
Get used to it, amerifats don't know perfect tense and simply use past tense for everything.

>>12697545
Maybe?

>>12697548
Stop trying to use tenses with the incorrect forms.

>>12697542
Sorry. English isn't my first lenguage so I end up making mistakes every now and then. I'll try to fix that.

The old and endless strugle bettwen Amerifat english and Britbong english

>>12697553
Stop trying to speak language you don't even know.

Don't let your Harusame become Abyss!
Give her some love!

I'm really interested, why do my DDs do 2-3 damage against fucking destroyer princess in night battol?

>>12697562
I've had her on expedition duty since summer simply because she came with a drum.

>>12697563
RNG

>>12697567
It's not RNG if it happens constantly

>>12697567
Not RNG. She has high luck and armor.

>>12697563
They simply miss. That's all.

Why is Asagumo the bet DD of this event? and why haven't you recognized Fujikawa as, arguably, the best Kancolle artist?

inb4 Prinz Eugen, inb4 Fumikane. Too moe and too few originality.

>>12697566
It's all because of admirals like you.

>>12697575
She's too moe and has too few originality.
Just look at how she looks like a mini Akashi.

>>12697575

wanted to say best ship

>>12697575
Akizuki is the best DD of this event, stop lying to yourself.

>>12697571
Even Mutsuki has enough night battle firepower to punch through her highest armor roll.

>>12697575
Eh, Prinz Eugen is not a DD. Also, Akizuki is best DD this event.

>>12697575
But Akizuki is the best ship from this event.

>>12697575
Twintail is love
Twintail is live

>>12697575
But Akizuki is the best new girl.

Everyone keeps saying how E1 is piss easy but I keep getting crit on my way to the boss and cant deal any damage at all because of ships missing like crazy on D, E and F nodes.

Am I doing something horribly wrong? And whats the best formation for this map? (Something without CAVs)

>>12697575
Because you have shit taste. Yoshinori's Akizuki is objectively the best.

>>12697575
I vastly prefer Nowaki's sprite to Asagumo's, but I don't have either of them yet. Nowaki is one of Konishi's best DDs to date, IMO.

>>12697592
Read the wiki, faggot.

>>12697575
I don't know if she's the best or not, but she's the one i want the most. Still, just because she's a drop i don't think i'm gonna get her. I didn't got any of the new drops from the last event either.

>>12697592
>Something without CAVs
You're fucked.

>>12697583
>>12697579

Also

>>12697583
>>12697584
>>12697587
>>12697593

I bet you also think that best DD of summer was Isokaze. All looks and no substance, same as Akizuki. I'd say that Akizuki is better though, just because of Rensouhous

>>12697592
In the same boat.
E-2 now and all my destroyers get one shot on the first node.

>>12697601
Are they really that important?

>>12697577
But now she's higher level than all of her sisters except for my dojikko starter. That's some kind of love. I even set as flagship so I can hear her cute resupply line.

>>12697581
Then how come this set couldn't kill her? Only Isokaze was orange and was hime alone with 119 hp going to night battle. Said battle ended with hime having 69 hp. Sendai did a DA for 12 + 7.

>>12697602
Isokaze is a true maiden of war who appreciates the subtle tactics of line ahead all day every day.

>>12697602
Everyone who has her understands that Isokaze was the best.

>>12697613
I have her and I don't really like her.

>>12697611
Forgot pic.

>>12697602
Did you imply that Akizuki has no substance? Go away and never come back.

>>12697613

>Isokaze

That's an odd way to spell Kiyoshimo

>>12697611
>>12697619
Equips?

>>12697592
>>12697604
>All those infidels not making the virgin sacrifices to RNG-sama before the event
No wonder you're so fucked.

I'm about to just say "fuck it" and throw all my best ships into E-1 and E-2 and forget about E-3.

Ship lockout is fucking stupid.

>>12697628
Double attack setup (including 7 poi guns) and a 33 radar on everyone.

>>12697611
Those are scratches. Your Sendai simply missed and did scratch damage. I'm farming E-2 right now for Asagumo and I've yet to see Not!Hatusame stay alive. 34 sortie 2 retreats on the way 32 kills. I've seen all of my girls one-shotting her already.

>>12697634
>forgetting about Prinz
You know, the event lasts for two weeks. You have enough time to level up some canon fodder for E1 and E2.

>>12697636
Also, ttk lvl105+ if that matters. But I doubt her armor scales.

>>12697607
I cleared E1 without CAVs. I was using a lvl 1 Mogami that ended up remodeled by the time i cleared E1, tho.

>>12697634
Don't do it, think of the Kriegsmarine waiting for you.

>>12697626
Isokaze is more of a BB than Kiyoshimo will ever be.

>>12697639
I don't think I have the resources to level up as many ships as I need.

>>12697639
>cannon
There's no hope left for me.

>>12697641
She goes from 150 HP 100 Armour to 190/115.

>>12697634
What a kuzu.

>>12697638
Level?

>>12697641

http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Destroyer_Princess

>>12697638
>steel backgrounds
It's silver

>>12697648
>>12697650

I thought that's the "last kill upgrade", not a level scaling one

>>12697645
Well, in total you need... at least 24 more or less good ships. 12 for E1, 6 for E2 (but you can reuse the E1 fleet), and another 12 for E3. I think a regular TTK has at least 15 or so. And you don't need all ships to be Kai Ni'd, I've managed to finish E2 using DDs from my expedition fleets.
So yeah, depending on the overall state of your fleet you might have a chance.

>>12697653
It seems like lower level TTK get the easier version except for the last kill, and higher levels are stuck with the stronger one.

>>12697653
It's only a last kill upgrade for low level TTKs, higher level ones have the stronger form from the start.

>>12697659
It's the composition that's the problem in my case. I don't have the CAVs.

Well with this I've entered less than 1000 oil. I would have killed her by now if I hadn't locked out some of my best ships in E1.

>>12697669
You don't need them to finish E1.

>>12697649
101 but it doesn't matter, wikiwiki lists the same nodes. You're really doing something wrong. Try boss support if RNG hates you this much.
Have you upgraded your prized poi guns? All my girls carry 4 star poi guns plus 13 Kai radar, Tenryuu carries 2xyellow gun plus max star quint, maybe that's the reason they rarely miss and placebo is real?
>>12697652
Steel is the best metal so those are steel backgrounds for me.

What are your notable drops in the event?
Just x2 Maruyu for me.

>>12697634
Absolute Kuso. This event is such a walk in the park and you're being a whining pussy.

>>12697671
>oil

>>12697672
What composition would you recommend?
Every time I go in there I can't even get to the boss node. Then again I am using a very low level fleet.

I think I'll kai all of them.

>>12697675

Asagumo
Hatsukaze
Imuya
Bismarck
Yuugumo
Makigumo
Yuubari
Amatsukaze

>>12697672
Im on the same boat, what composition would you use to finish it without CAVs?

>>12697675
Maruyu and Shioi. And Asagumo I guess. Only ships I don't have now are Musashi, Taihou, Agano, and Noshiro.

Go get a Mogami FFS. Her kai level is just 10.

>>12697675
8 fucking Akagis. Not a single trophy ships.

>>12697675
Kumano
Yuugumo
And lots of Nenohis right after I scrapped my old Nenohi

>>12697675
With 4 E4 kills to go,

E1:Kumano, Yuugumo
E2:Akigumo, Maize
E3: 2 Shimikaze, Kyoshimo
E4 so far: Zuikaku, Shokaku

>>12697675
None of the really rare ones, so far. The most interesting one was getting Shimakaze pre-boss and then getting her again at boss, final E-3 kill.

>>12697702
*Maikaze

>>12697688
>>12697693
Well, I used 1CV 2fBB 1CLT (that was an accident, though, but I didn't have enough ships to change it so I just had to keep using it) 2CA + 1CL 5DD for the second fleet. Not the best setup, but I didn't have enough high-level ships. And anyway, it worked, so, who cares.

>>12697702
There's Kiyoshimo drop on E3 too? I feel relieved now. I don't know if I'll be able to get to E4 and I don't want to waste time going back to E1.

>>12697675
4 maruyu by clear map

>>12697675
Zuikaku (finally), Taigei (finally), Asagumo (unexpected and not really needed, but I'm glad I got her), 2x Maruyu. I think that's all I needed. This event was a true treasure chest.

>>12697675
Yuugumo, Noshiro, and Kiyoshimo

>>12697675
Harusame, Naganami, Hamakaze, and a spare Kumano.
Still trying for my last e2 kill.

Constantly praying for a Yahagi, Suzuya, Nagato or Iku.

sum1 make a new thread

Go fucking figure, 6 of my first 7 E-2 runs I got sent NE at start but half of those I just got taiha'd at yasen node. The one time I got Tsu node (then Ri node too since I was using 2 CL 4 DD) I S-ranked boss despite low ammo.

Then trying for final kill again I get flawless S at Tsu node, three ships hit to orange at Ri node (bullshit, almost just retreated there), flawless S yasen node. Sank all 4 escort DDs but Hime and Tsu torpedoes hit Shimakaze and Yukikaze to taiha and I thought I was fucked. Instead Ayanami lands one crit and Sendai finishes her.

It's like ultimate success is inversely proportional to how well things go at the start of the run.

>>12697675
None.

>>12697709
Thanks.
I was using 1BBV, BB, 2CA, 1CV, 1DD + 1CL, 5DD for E-1.

I think my main issue is just my DDs not being kai'd and my CAs doing no damage.

>>12697675
Clones of my shipfu dropped from a preboss node virtually every E-2 run. Otherwise nothing yet.

>>12697674
I did the last 20 runs with boss support. It usually kills 1 dd and that's it. I ended up fielding beaver but then she forgot to cut-in (she did it on the nayt battol node for 498) as FS and with flare but still did 98 damage. Then 3 ships did scratch and Z1 sunk her.
All poi guns are 4+ stars obviously.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbNg5_Jtd8k

>>12697562
Just got her from E2 night battle spot, she is 10/10 daughter material.

>>12697733
Uh, yeah, leaving DDs without a Kai form is probably not the very best idea. Try to level up them a bit.
And if you have some resources to spare, try to make better equipment for your CAs. Then again, it's all up to RNG-sama — you may be able to finish the map with stock equipment.

>>12697743
Your fault for using a shitty DD and a shitty CL.

>>12697577
Why are you demonizing expeditions? Are you one of those who wouldn't even send their shipfu on a short, relaxing trip?

Don't forget that expeditions are important.

>>12697758
Don't talk that way about my daughter. She's the one who got notHarusame that low.
I had two other night attacks available after her but they got taken out in descending order because this game is the biggest asshole ever.

>>12697754
I''m level 60, casually played off and on for a year and I have never once used my CAs until now, so I have no idea what equipment is optimal for them.

This event is kind of a wake-up call for me to stop neglecting them. Should have learned from last even though since the reason I couldn't finish that was because I didn't have enough ships too.

>>12697742
Well go fucking figure. It all boils down to luck. Have you kicked any cats recently?
Speaking about luck, that's pure speculation, but another reason why Not!Harusame might seem so tenacious is due to her extreme luck. Luck might influence the odds of getting hit, since my 59 luck Tenryuu was hit only twice, both scratches, during the 8 sorties it took me to clear E-2, and I've seen her going red only 4 times during my E-5 hunt. Tenryuu is the one who wrecks DD Hime most often too.

>>12697675
Tanikaze,cutie Whale,Harusame

>>12697767
You're me, then. I haven't used my CAs for a long time, so I have to level them up from nothing.
I used Nachi Kai with her stock equipment and Chikuma Kai also with her stock equipment — 20.3mm twin gun mount x 2, some torpedoes and an observation plane. Nachi was pretty much useless, but Chikuma hit as hard as some of my BBs.

>>12697768
Shigure and Yukikaze send people home all the time. Kitakami is probably the greatest crit magnet of all time.

>>12697754
>>12697767
I don't know that the destroyers matter that much, the big thing is to have an effective first fleet since it goes first (unlike carrier combined fleet); I cleared E-1 using Sendai + 5 Mutsukis in my second fleet, my first fleet usually killed everything except sometimes a damaged Ru.

>>12697804
E2 is a completely CL/DD map.
Good luck trying to clear it without descent DDs.

>>12697767
>>12697788
CAs seem to be pretty ignored in general. I have a couple that I like, but the remaining are sitting at level 1.

CAless E1 wasn't that hard, though. 4BB2CVL works pretty well.

>>12697788
Now imagine them with much more FP (kai2, 3gou guns and air crew), accuracy and HP. Plus they are monsters in night battle.

>>12697811
They were only talking about E-1 though, the discussion all started with one guy that couldn't even reach boss node. Leveling the DDs a bit isn't going to make E-1 beatable when the first fleet doesn't do shit.

>>12697825
So what is the optimal E1 formation in the end that skips the E node assuming you have all ships required?

Just noticed that Akizuki's guns also have rensouhou-chan-like faces

>>12697811
E2 is not a hard map, it's a dick map. It doesn't require strong ships, it requires perseverance. As long as they're remodeled and modernized, you can clear it with pretty much any fleet.

I really like it/Spring E4/combined fleet maps, though. They're a good excuse to remove your old guard from expedition duty and give them a chance to shine in battle, and the nostalgia of setting out with your starter, Shirayuki and first few crafts is incomparable.

>>12697798
People love to bitch and exaggerate. In my experience both Yukikaze and Shigure seemed a bit sturdier then equally leveled Poi.
And they have holo backgrounds. Holo backgrounds are your enemy, Admiral!

>>12697675
Pyon.

>>12697840
For a fag, you're still single?

>>12697824
Eh. You have BBs for firepower and pretty much everyone except CV(L)s for night battles.
CAs are rarely used.

>>12697840
>please don't take it too seriosuly
I didn't and it still gave me cancer.

>>12697833
You have to lay off the carriers for sure. I used 2 BBV, 2 CAV, CA, CL in first fleet. After I already cleared it wikiwiki has new (but still uncertain) information that you can't use more than 2 BB(V) or 1 CVL and need a CL.

第一艦隊【戦艦系2隻以下+軽巡1隻+正規空母0隻+軽空母1隻以下】かつ第二艦隊【重巡&航巡1隻以下、駆逐4隻以上】で索敵値が一定以上でF?

All you need is a single Zuiun to get air superiority anywhere except E node, being short on CA(V) could be a problem though since bringing extra BB apparently sends you to the Nu node.

>>12697833
This was my fleet. I went A-C-E-F 3 times. B-D-F once. I didn't care about avoiding E, just have around 95 fighter power and it's easy due to ring formation.

There might be something better, but this worked really well for me.

>>12697840
Disgusting duplicates.

>>12697350
I know anon, everything went perfectly in day battle, only somehow the night battles everyone can't aim the boss.

>>12697596
An admiral can't be this wrong.

>>12697884
Nevermind, missed the DD part.

>>12697837
Spring E-4 was better for that though because it was an ASW map, if you had max level common DDs they were actually better than lower level super DDs because evasion was all that really mattered.

Current E-2 you still need to be able to one-shot enemies effectively to avoid getting torpedoed, while also not getting critted by shit like elite Ri (where 10 armor difference actually matters), so I just loaded up on super DDs.

Combined fleet is nice though, I'm going to use my Maruyu-fed, level 135 Mochizuki as fleet 2 flagship for E-3 and E-4.

>>12697891
>>12697884
Yeah, Yahagi's charadesign is Konishi's finest work in Kancolle, IMO.

>>12697864
Going ACEF is fine (and easier than fighting flagship Ru) but If you ended up going BDEF or ACDEF then you're fighting an extra battle before boss which isn't good.

>>12697899
Well, there's also the fact that DD fleets are very cheap to field, so even if you run with non-super DDs you'll just spend a little more resources. The 10k I spent at E2 is as high as it gets.

>>12697899
> you still need to be able to one-shot enemies effectively to avoid getting torpedoed
The difference is negligible. Ignoring Ayanami/Poi, you wouldn't normally even notice it. And even then common 49 firepower is enough to sink/orange everything but Tsu, and you can't kill tsu reliably even with Poi, you need to crit, and with crits anyone can orange her.
> where 10 armor difference actually matters
Not as much as you want it it. The difference between 50 damage and 40 damage for 30something HP destroyer is minor. The only thing that really matters is armor roll, and you can't influence it in any way.

>>12697859
>You have to lay off the carriers for sure. I used 2 BBV, 2 CAV, CA, CL in first fleet. After I already cleared it wikiwiki has new (but still uncertain) information that you can't use more than 2 BB(V) or 1 CVL and need a CL.
Can you avoid E node with this formation?

Next event when?

>>12697958
Christmas.

>>12697958
Maybe tomorrow.

>>12697742
Jesus, compared to E-2, E-3 is a fucking pushover

>mostly un-remodeled fleet almost made it to E-3 boss
Wow I was expecting something harder.

>>12697945
I never went E node with it anyway.

I regret having used my BBVs there though, I should have just gone with two fast BB, I only later learned that 2 BBV can get you C route on E-3 and those were my only 2 BBV.

633 cut-in on a FS CA? That's brutal even for ktkm sama

>>12698018
Revenge for SHA SHA SHA DON

All CAs need to die.

>>12697937
When the enemy firepower is right around the same as your armor, it matters, it can be the difference between a scratch and hit to yellow or orange. Elite Ri has 69 firepower, normal Tsu has 62, new-model I-class has 40; against that 49 versus 59 armor is significant.

>>12697742
Are you equipping your support girls with a radar each?

Fucking FINALLY
GYOURAI HASHA KUMA
FUCK YOU E2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrwR5rLA5Ak
I'm going to use Akizuki next event.

>>12698037
You were supposed to do that?

Damn, I'm out of the loop. Last I checked, it was 4x 46cm/4x Suisei, sparkle flag and pray.

>>12698037
Not the guy you're responding to, but that happens 1 time out of how many?

>>12698047
Equipping lots of heavy guns can also decrease accuracy now.

>>12698047
I saw a few people do 3x46 1xRadar in streams and decided to try, it seems to work but as always they will fuck up sometimes.

>>12698051
In E2 boss? The support always took 1 to 3, that was the only time in like six boss fights that it happened.

>>12698054
Does it apply to support fleets though?

>>12698056
What support fleet are you using?

>>12697240
Pls no bully

>>12698056
>>12698047
IIRC 46 + 41 + 41 is the max that non-Yamato can carry without penalty, so I go with that + AP shell or radar depending on my mood.

Taking it easy is really nice.

>>12698061
The usual 2BB, 2CV and 2DD. All with type 32 or 33 in their last slot.

Stop it, mry. 5 of you is enough for a while

Has anyone tried LSC with Prinz Eugen?

>>12698084
Japs did and succeeded.

>>12697992
I love you anon, I finally got my first kill with this formation.

Was trying other shit and I kept getting fucked at node E

>>12698086
Bismarck?

So what does AA cut-in do, apart from the animation?

>>12698099
It cuts enemy planes with bullets made from Japanese steel folded over 1000 times.

Sparkling is brutal practice, I don't like it.

>>12698115

I think it's possible to go through this entire event without sparkling unless you're so under prepared you need to compensate.

>>12698099
More enemy planes shot down I assume.

Do i have a chance with Aryan-Chiyo ship? This's all i have

>>12698118
I'm sparkling for night expedition but it's so much of a hassle I'll probably ignore it in the future for anything giving 300 or less. And I really don't like scrapping ships/letting them sink.
As for the event, it's possible I'll have to sparkle my fleet as I'm pretty weak. That will be the last resort though.

I think I need tips, or luck, for E-4. Keep getting trolled by torpedo phase on node D or wrecked by airstrike-tan on G.

Thinking of going with the offensive (boss) formation for D to ensure they do not live to torpedo phase. But not sure how I evade death from above in node G. If someone knows how to make cut in AA, and if that works, it could be helpful.

So how many DDs am I going to need for E3 if im using Akitsumaru for my first fleet?

>>12698174
You don't need DDs for E3.

>>12698169

I used the south route and with my command facility, never had too much of an issue from Yorktown on node G. Only once I had two girls go to red.

>>12698188
But what about the escort fleet? You dont need DDs for that?

Why can't my flagship attack first?

>>12698200

Because she thinks your a faggot and fucks with you.

>>12698198
Oops, 2 min DDs. Forgot about that.

Have Agano or Noshiro dropped for anyone on one of the event maps? Trying to finish my fatty collection.

>>12698244
Got a Noshiro from E3 while grinding for Asagumo

>>12698244
Noshiro drops on E3. Not sure which node tho.

What's this?

So admirals.

Share your E3 and E4 formations with me.
Im going to be running it and want to know what everyone used for these.

Where's the best place to farm for armor devmats?

I don't care if they're just CLs, I just want my DDs to stop getting critted in E2.

>>12698282
I just threw random shit together. HQ 100+. Worked out fine. I was sent home twice and failed to sink the boss once.

I'm not going to do E-4 until tomorrow.

>>12698297
I wish I had Akitsumaru, I hear it's the easiest way to clear E-3. But right now isn't the time for desperate LSC.

>>12698299
You dont need to desperate LSC, just do LSC normally.

I have 5 Akitsumarus, 3 Maruyus and no other LSC ships.

>>12698297
>>12698299
Wait, Akitsumaru actually does something for E3?

>>12698308
Akitsumaru saved the day for me last event by giving me the ezmodo route and apparently she does the same here.

I have been using her for expeditions so she's at the decent level of 45.

How do expeditions 133 and 134 work?
I'm guessing they're boss support expeditions, but are there fleet requirements or anything I need to know to make them work?
My current E-3 fleets only take boss to about half damage. The rate this is going, I'll have to do about 30 more expeditions to get her down, and probably another 100 to RNG the final kill somehow.

>>12698282
I've only done one run, but I'm amazed how easy E-3 is. My main fleet performed so poorly that Akitsumaru got MVP.
Still easily able to S rank the boss.

>>12698316
What did you use for your escort fleet?

>>12698312
Are you telling me that the wiki's page isn't good enough for you?

>>12698301
What should I use as flagship?

>>12698320
I guess I kept missing that huge section somehow. Sorry for being an idiot and dyslexic.

>>12698308
I don't know if she does for sure because I stuck with that fleet the whole time and always went A-B-F-H-I.

>>12698308
She has been warding off compass trolls since last Summer. As expected from superior rikugun.

>>12698316
If you go to yasen in combined fleet then first fleet flagship automatically gets MVP.