/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>12652337
And don't forget /pol/'s Racial Cleansing FPS.

>General
>edition
Fuck off.

http://i.4cdn.org/f/jp.swf
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Why just 2hu? Make some iM@S and monstergirl fangames too. 2hus already wear cute dresses and a lot of them are monstergirls. It wouldn't be a great stretch.

>>12652497
Hey, don't forget about kancolle!

>>12652499

>>12652449
>>12652497
>>12652499
>all that autism

>>12652502
>>12652505
Get a load of those assdamaged 2hushits.

>>12652462
This is dead

>>12652523
>>12652523
what a shame
i would have liked to see it finished

What is /jp/'s opinion on a VNish RPGmaker Grisaia parody game with unconventional combat featuring Tenshi as the main character and her main goal is to get through a year of high school without getting expelled? The love interests are from Touhou, Kancolle and Precure, and yes it is yuri.

>>12652539
sounds lame

>>12652545
Figures but I still can't help but make it. I'll start on it after maybe a couple of games and when my illustration trumps SonoHana's and post it in this kind of thread if one is around when it's done.

>>12652539
Yuri is boring.

>>12652561
Well, it can't be helped since Tenshi is a girl and I want her to be the MC and I want to make at least one highschool romcom game so I can look at it again maybe a few years after and laugh and ask myself what was I thinking.

>>12652539
Kancolle is shit and forced meme

>>12652591
So is touhou, what's your point?

>>12652337
>>Tenshi game about walking around and doing stuff
It has been dead for while now.

>seeing your image posted as OP
my heart stopped for a second
I'll try to update soon again with curvy bullets and all the patterns 'finished'

I think I'm still gonna need until Thanksgiving to finish

>>12652756
Can you give me the controls? I'm a bit confused

>>12652337
What has /tg/ done besides stat the girls in every system in existence?

>>12652337
You "forgot" something :
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ww6ccwdd15wxh81/Futo_Story-1.0-all.zip

>>12652539
I think it sounds pretty cool

>>12652539
Only if I can date /jp/ memes too

>>12653186
You want to date Niggy and Aniki?

>>12652539
That sounds retarded.

>>12652337
>Touhou Crossing (with source):
But I don't see any source.

>>12653172
Yeah, about that, I have some bad news...

>>12654584
You're not giving up are you?

>>12654584
Oh boy

>>12654584

>>12654800
Not yet, but I am restarting from the beginning.
The first draft I wrote was unsatisfactory.

>>12655027
>first draft
Not actually the first draft, since I already restarted it (the first has a sarcastic character and a verbose Futo). It's more like the second draft. Which means I'm reaching my third draft, and I still don't have anything good done.

I want to beat someone with a spiked mace while yelling and laughing maniacally.

>>12655037
>I want to beat someone with a spiked mace while yelling and laughing maniacally.
Take up boxing to blow off some steam

>>12652772
As of now, it's arrow keys to move and and Z to attack, and I forgot if this is in that one but X to end the spell immediately

It seems I can't write simple romance. You know, the second draft I talked about? I was trying to write down my plot in order to avoid making shit up as I progress.

And I don't know how, I don't fucking how, but somehow it went from :
>an outsider is you, go meet some touhou and do fun stuff while getting closer to Futo
to:
>you are a narcissist obsessive manipulator trying to cause a youkai/human war by using the Taoists and the Buddhists, in order to use the chaos you caused to return to the outside world unnoticed and sabotage an American special operation aimed to destroy a Chinese research/tourism lunar base called Chang'E for prestige and economical reasons, just because you have a personal grudge against one of the member of said operation, before the world collapses around you, and preferably before Yukari figures out what's going on and gaps your entrails in a smelter
It woulda contained lot of backstabbing, complicated political stuff going on in the outside world between Japan, USA, Great Britain and China, implications that Yukari fucks up with the outside world a lot by sponsoring not-totally-ethical researches, verbal sparring with Byakuren herself, and of course the lunarians.
That's not cute nor easy to read (especially with my broken English). So back to square one.

I appreciate someone offered his help for the backgrounds, but right now, I need help with the story, because each time I try to write something, it turns out like this. I should write sci-fi conspiracies books, I would become rich very quickly.

>>12656748
set aside two empty documents. Think of something conspiracyish? put it one one. think of something romantic/cute? put it in the other. never let the two cross pollenate. You might end up with enough material for a different project

>>12656748
>I don't know how,
I do know. You said last thread you were replaying the whole Deus Ex franchise.
You should be playing Harvest Moon if you want cute stuff.

>>12652337
>unity web player
Um... dudes?

I wish I had the time to create a game. I have lots of ideas and quite a bit of coding skills. I want to create either a shooter or an RTS. You don't see a lot of the latter... only Patchcon or Age of Ethanols come to mind.

>>12657192
Try to make some time then.

Eiki knows you've been lazy.
Get back to work.

>>12652756
how am I supposed to dodge anything with the movement being this floaty

>>12657179
?

>>12654036
The GMZ file is a Game Maker project file. Open it in Game Maker.

>>12661376
Y-yes Shika-sama!

>>12661376
Yes Shiki-sama!

>>12661509
Is there a desktop version somewhere? I'd rather take a botnetted binary over the unity plugin.

>>12661605
http://www.mediafire.com/download/qa22k992n9zdq29/build_20141102.exe

You've got some faith
I tried to take out some of the floatiness

>>12662511
Not sure how you're doing movement, but you should try to copy and paste what they do in this tutorial: http://unity3d.com/earn/tutorials/projects/space-shooter/moving-the-player
If I remember correctly, movement wasn't that floaty in there.

Also, your .exe doesn't work without the data folder. Make a zip!

>>12664007
Gave the link a look, it's pretty similar to what I'm doing but I don't use rigidbody so I can't copy it as it is
The way I had it, when input stops, movement slows down by 5% per frame until you come to a stop
For this one, movement should stop immediately without input

It feels kind of sticky to me, but maybe I was just used to the drift

Thanks for the heads up ! Should be ok now
http://www.mediafire.com/download/zga2l7582qkk8z0/build_20141105.zip

>>12653013

>>12665633
I still don't really like how you're doing movement. Right now, the speed ramps up the longer you hold the movement keys, which I don't think belongs in a shmup.
Do velocity = instead of velocity +=.

Also, add shift for faster movement.

>>12666806
>Also, add shift for faster movement.
>shift
>faster movement
Hu?

>>12666827
>>12666838
slower*

>>12666827
>add shift for faster movement
Do you work for EA or something?

>>12662511
>>12665633
I haven't played it much yet but I already like it more. The movement does feel odd but at least now I can maneuver between bullets and don't have to keep as far away from everything as possible.

>>12666848
tehehe　(　＞◡❛)～☆

It's friday night lads, get to work!
This time, I will finish the writing for sure.

>>12669854
Same here !
I've been spending the week collecting data, taking notes and writing minor characters based on /jp/ regulars while pretending to be an intolerant anti-youkai bigot, so this week end, I'll definitely write. A bit.

And also repair Deus Ex so that it finally works on my toaster. And install Invisible War. And Project Snowblind. And get Human Revolution's Director's Cut to do a stealth run without being forced to have a shotgun and an assault rifle in my inventory at all time.
Through I kinda liked the boss battles, it felt like the game saying "hey, you can't constantly avoid everyone, so here's that 2m50 tall german golgoth, kill him, and I don't care if your only weapon is a pistol".

So, how did things go?

>>12678354
I wanted to start but then got distracted.

>>12678354
I'll post once I'll have something interesting to say.

>>12678354
I had a shitty weekend, lost motivation and didn't do shit.
Maybe next time.

Damnit, fantasizing about making a game is way more fun than actually working on it.

>>12680575
Working on a game is actual work

What if there was a game like Romance of the Three Kingdoms/Nobunaga's Ambition, but with 2hus?

>>12678354
Played monster hunter all weekend, and this week isn't looking so good either

>mfw going through that touhou crossing's code
this is not how I would have done it at all, why the hell are there so many scripts and shit, why are things defined all over the place? maybe it's a case of pearls before swine, and I'm just too shit to appreciate it.

I still added Ran into the game, and am working on at least making the characters say a few random things instead of the same line over and over.

So, what things should they say? characters available in the same sprite-style are basically 6-9 2hus, plus Rin and Okuu.

>>12681349
Marisa could say " It ain't magic if it ain't flashy" or maybe "I'll be borrowing this". Reimu could say "My incident senses are tingling" or something.

>>12680620
So like a strategy/tactics game? I could be wrong but I think one already exist.

>>12681349
ahaha, I was going to ask how to implement linebreaks, but I stumbled upon it in the process of figuring out how to implement the cute dialog bits.

I wanted to use # to stand for those angry marks, but you were already using it for "return" you crafty bugger

anyway yeah, hearts, stars, sweatdrops, angry marks, musical notes, linebreaks, I got it.

>>12681456
Those are good, give me more!

>>12681349
I kept scripts separated from objects to make them easier to access and edit. There are few things in the source code that were partially implemented like world generation, custom AI behaviors, and dialogue banks I think.

I'm the person who made Touhou Crossing, so if you have any questions, I'll be glad to help.

>>12681598
>I wanted to use # to stand for those angry marks, but you were already using it for "return" you crafty bugger
That's a Game Maker thing:
>You can also force a line break using the # symbol, or you can draw the # symbol by preceding it using the "\" symbol like this "this will draw the \# symbol".

>>12681609
wow cool

yeah, I'm fairly familiar with gamemaker but it's all self-taught. I've never taken coding classes or anything, so I'm not familiar with the "best practices" of coding.

But I'm figuring out your stuff, like I said I've got new characters and them saying new things.


a question though - if I wanted to set trigger variables (as in, Marisa always says 'hello ze' the first time you click on her, but after that first time I flip a boolean and now she's on another pattern) where should I declare/store those variables?

>>12681626
I tried to make adding new characters as easy as possible. The hardest part of that is setting the sprites. I didn't comment much since most of the code was straightforward.

Creating variables is easy in GM. Anything not prefaced with "var" is a variable belonging to the owning object. So have a boolean like has_met that gets set to true when you talk to an NPC. And if has_met == true, then display another string instead. You can store it in any NPC object. You should also declare it somewhere beforehand so the game doesn't crash when it tries to access a nonexistant variable.

One thing I didn't do was multiple dialogue support. You could try implementing that so NPCs can say more than just one line at a time.

>>12681653
alright, that was simpler than I thought it would be. I'd forgotten how lax gamemaker is with its shit, no wonder it was my favorite language. I have to pretend like I know c# for my job and I really have no idea what I'm doing everything is so complicated

My plan for where I want to take this, is just to make a cute thing you can have open in the background, where various 2hus come in and out and you can check in on them and stuff. So, more like the Animal Plaza on the wiiU than an actual AC game, but.

>>12681598
Coming up with things for characters to say is surprisingly hard.

>>12681726
it really is. I'm going off quote listings from the games, but a lot of it is dialogue, which doesn't work when I need them to say a line with no prompting and no followup.

>>12681708
GML has its weird quirks. You have to be careful with it.

I wanted to make the game more focused on building a town. With certain buildings attracting certain characters. But you're free to do whatever you want with it. I posted the source code in hopes of someone picking it up. I wrote it in only a weekend, so there wasn't much.

>>12681726
That's why I only wrote one line for each character.

touhoumoon when

>>12681793
Pick one :
[] Never.
[] Surely never.
[] Obviously never.
[] How about never?

Oh it's good that I found this thread. I had completely forgotten about my project.

How do you call that "I'm trying to work on something but I keep focusing on stupid, small details" ?

>>12686068
autism

Writing dialogue is pretty hard, can't wait to start working on the lewd animations instead.

>>12686068
Procrastination. Also escapism.

>>12653013
Still waiting for an answer.

Is this one of you guys? It's being made by one guy on a tablet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWX_PYspruo

>>12686068
When I tried making a STG I did that all the time. I would spend hours tweaking one pattern, when it didn't matter at all because the game was nowhere close to done and everything was still provisional.

That and other parts of making a game are strangely entertaining. It's like its own game, one called "I Have Autism".

Spent all my time working on backgrounds.

>>12691921
That's better than not working at all

>>12692705
Wasting time to work on something that will probably never get noticed?
Meh. I shoulda spent more time writing Tojiko's dialogues.

I wish dat shiznit was easier ta cook up a game.
I have tha idea yo, but tha execution is fuckin as slow as a snail, which is like irritating.

>>12656748
Are you the self-insert black guy?

>>12652337
I'm on linux and wine is not working with the Unity game. Can you guys upload videos of your projects and put them on youtube or vimeo.

>>12697874
Respect

>>12697826
Usually, at dis point, I roll mah eyes n' sigh.
Me, bein black, biatch? How tha fuck tha fuck fuckin wack. Right back up in yo muthafuckin ass. Right back up in yo muthafuckin ass. Still, I can't straight-up blame you, itz all part of yo' dome : tryin ta find a logical explanation fo' suttin' dat you lack tha intelligence ta understand.
Same thang happened earlier, sadly, when a muthafucka decided I was muslim simply cuz I holla'd at his ass da thug was a cold-ass lil complete moron n' a asshole.

>>12698012

http://www.mediafire.com/download/covlmh5bdij55ck/TouhouCrossing-11.14.2014.exe

I've done some more stuff with this, please download it and give feedback!
>Cirno, Reimu, Marisa, Yuugi, Youmu have 6 random phrases
>Okuu and Patchouli say different things at different times of the day
>Alice warms up to you if you keep talking to her
>Ran will ask you to help her find Chen
>filter for nighttime, early morning, sunset

Who do you want to see added next? Also need dialog/event suggestions.

>>12698860

Gaps that take you somewhere random in the town (that won't get you stuck)

>>12698860
Dunno how these games work, but text scrolls way too slowly

Looks interesting though, hoping to see progress

>>12698860
Open your eyes wide, the MAGNIFICIENT Ddyk will give you some divine advice to make your game better (because it's easier to give advice to someone else than working on your own game and I'm looking for excuses and also because I have a messiah complex) :
-make sure girls don't hide behind trees, or at least not unintentionally,
-maybe less funny maymay, armpit jokes and 9 jokes are getting old, even through that depends what kind of public you're aiming at,
-make the text faster, dang it. It's slow as fuck,
-Patchouli hovering around is fucking awesome,
-no Yorihime? That's a 0/10.

As for the rest, I reckon it can wait. Being able to shake trees and have bees coming out of them would be sadistically fun, or having buildings where you drop touhous and mix them can wait too.

>>12701255
Also, Cirno trying to go in a tree was hilarious.

>>12698860
add Rean back into the game, she was my favorite

>>12701277
Ran is in the game.

>>12701277
I'll add in Rean as soon as ZUN puts Mima in another game

>>12701255
the writing is pretty phoned in at the moment, I'll admit.

My motivation flanally came back, I'll be working more seriously from now on!
To do list :
- you choose the origin of your sinsack in the beginning of the game (30 yrs old wizard who opened a portal to Gensokyo, suicide, etc.)
- Sekibanki and Rumia will be in your party. Also Hatate has a big role in the plot.
- The demo contains the SDM, the fairy and the Hakurei faction. All of the cast is romancable (and fuckable, if you don't screw it up)
- To get along with Patche, you'll need to improve your intelligence. Raise your charisma if you want to score Remilia.

>>12701255
Those things look disgusting

>>12703770
Hatate integral to the plot?

Dropped.

>>12704131
How can you hate such a cute 10gu?

>>12704158
Spankfags ruined her 5ever.

>>12705184
I can understand that, they're ruining every Taters and Sexybanki threads.
Hey you know what? You can tell her to fuck off and sell your lewd photos to Bunbunmaru instead. It's better that way anyway.

>>12704158
>>12705184
>>12705470
>ITT : babies that can't stand people having different tastes

So, uh

This Youmu game says "touch anywhere". Does that mean I can't play it with a mouse, or what?

>>12705184
That's retarded.

>>12707914
You can play it with mouse and keyboard. I think the Anon who made the game said that he also made it compatible with phones or something and that's why it says "touch here".

>>12707964
For some reason, I can't get past the menu. I've tried clicking, pressing Enter, hammering the usual buttons.

>>12707967
Z, X, shift, and WASD don't work?

>>12708037
Oh good heavens, Z did it. I'm not sure why I didn't try Z. Probably because X,C, and Shift didn't work.

Should probably change it to "press Z to start" or something.

>>12706207
who are you quoting?

>>12653013
>>12653013

If it helps you people, I find it easier to write the dialogues on paper and then add them to the game rather than trying to write them directly.

>>12711809
Yup. That's also what I do.

>>12711809
I find myself a lot better at thinking how to make a game when I'm not making actually the game. Like when I'm in class.

>>12711982
My good fellow. Once you're in front of the screen, it's suddenly extremely difficult, right?

>>12711809
I'll try that to fix that stalemate I'm into, and hopefully I'll be able to post something soon.

>>12711982
Same with motivation, when at work I get this amazing urge to work on my game, but as soon as I get home it's gone.

I should become a neet again.

>>12714044
But when you're a neet you have no motivation to do anything

I would know since I am one

>>12714048
The grass is always greener on the other side... Enjoy it while you can.

>>12714044
No.
When you're never working, you never get the motivation to work, and you end up doing nothing useful, wasting your days talking to assholes over the Internet.

It, um, happened to a friend I know.

Anyone knows a good movie editor? Windows Movie Maker is kind of uncomplete for what I have in mind, and the only free one I know is still in beta and not available. And I don't feel like buying or YAAAAR'ing Sony Vegas.

And yes, it's on-topic. I'll explain why later.

>>12716467
Depends on the amount of editing you'd need to do. AviSynth should be fine for simple videos, but I'd recommend YAAAR'ing Adobe Premiere if you need advanced stuff

>>12716467
All the free ones suck.

>>12716491
Rather than exporting to different formats, it's more like adding effects. Water reflection, colours everywhere. That kind of stuff.

>>12717008
IF you're going to add advanced effects like that, there's no free video editor that can do it. Or do it well, at the very least.

Go for Premiere.

>>12717285
Well, fuck. That means reinstalling that clot utorrent.

Thanks mate.

Do you people think I can put some ragtime in my game?

>>12722602
>ragtime
>in touhou
Nigger what are you doing

Anything new to report?

>>12722602
Machikado Mapoze did some 2hu stuff, in that style might get some inspiration from them. That album "Dancing Phantasmorgoria" (IIRC) had a couple of touhou ragtime

>>12729008
Found the charleston one, with Seija's theme. It was awesome.

/v/ here.
Have you ever made a game?

>>12730810
A couple have been made and many are still under development

>>12730810
I made one once. It was a "stand up, go south, pick knife, stab Rumia, pick heart, give heart to dog, take dagger, kill yourself" kind of game.

>>12730810
I made a roguelike engine that wasn't half bad before (as you gained powers, you would have been able to progressively rewrite more of the world, until the higher levels would just be writing bugs into your enemies and gapping your way across impossible maps), then realized I can't make content for the life of me, so it was boring and never progressed beyond a demo.

I'm half-heartedly working on one now that's a bit better defined: CORE WARS for STGs. You'll program dolls/shikigami/whatever in assembly-ish and watch them play danmaku with each other.

>>12731137
Could you post demo?
Or have you already deleted it?

I suppose nobody here has a magical trick to get motivated?

>>12731260
Adderall. Just kidding. Maybe you should stream yourself working on Twitch or Livestream. There's no way you'll goof off while being watched right? Or maybe constantly thinking about how awesome your game will be when you finish it will motivate you enough to work.

>>12731260
Magical trick no, but I find detailed writing of plans and checklists help
The key is to get so detailed that you're not constantly questioning yourself during implementation.
It's easier to tackle things in small portions, one at a time

>>12680575
Can confirm. Debugging is torture.

>>12731895
What if it's too boring for stream?

>>12732456
What if it's a really small part that get me stuck? In my case, it's a dialogue.

>>12732600
Dialog as a whole doesn't sound like a small problem
Maybe you can split the dialog as each encounter, have a list of those, and split each encounter in phases, and work on each. I think you should have a list of every encounter first. if one in particular blocks you, work on a different encounter and come back to the blocking one later. If all dialog blocks you work on a different aspect and come back to it

>>12732694
I do understand getting stuck on a necessary part of the project that needs doing, though, and that sucks

I do think it's best not to feel pressured though; maybe take a break?

>>12732600
Stream it anyway. I've watched some comfy cast where people broadcast themselves making animations on Adobe Flash or games using RPGmaker. Just play some music in the background and do your thing.

>>12732694
The problem is that it's a complicated dialog, with several branches.
But more than that, I'm having trouble with implications. For example, I want to suggest that one speaker is having mood swings when sensitive topics are brought up, while the other is constantly calm.
So naturally, I'm thinking of using exclamations marks to suggest she's getting angry when the player talks about her being dead. But when I read it again, it sounds like she's excited rather than being angry.
And I don't want to rely on narration to explain her mood, because that feels like I'm shoving it in the player's face by basically saying "HEY SHE'S ANGRY. BECAUSE YOU TOLD HER SHE'S A ZOMBIE GHOST. SO SHE'S ANGRY."

>>12732706
In that case, it's mostly code and fanfiction writing. The fun stuff with sprites, effects and all comes later.

>>12652337
Holy shit, controls in that Youmu game are horrible and I have felling that hitbox is bigger than her model

>>12732947
More things
Bullets and lasers disappear before reaching top corners where you can hide
Attack begins when you release button
You can get hit while Youmu is swinging her swords
Bullets you deflected aren't homing
Music is not looping
Master spark killed me while I was typing this

>>12732967
Oh also spirits from stage select are all red
Also I realized what is wrong with hitbox
Its wider at Youmu's feet

Corruption of a important part of my drive.
I lost everything I had written down, along with a large part of my music folder and my tentacle loli rape hentai.

I want to beat someone with a pickaxe.

>>12737307
How did it get corrupted in the first place?

>>12737331
Hell if I know.
I know how to clean up a computer and how to manipulate a picture to make Josek Frieztl look young and seductive again, I can piss off 10 people at once and get on someone's nerves in two seconds, but stuff about drivers, surround and all that shit is beyond my skills.

Have a random picture because I one I wanted to post was a duplicate.

>>12737353
Oh man, that sucks. Better get it checked or something so you don't lose anymore things.

Would it be retarded to make a shmup from the ground up? I don't know where to start but I have a lot of free time.

>>12737795
Google danmakufu. From what I heard, it's "how to maek touhou games for dummies".

Bump.

>>12737795
Not if you're learning programming.

So is this thread dead?

>>12752300
I guess so. Best of luck to the people who are still working but haven't said anything though.

>>12753301
Why don't anons work on a joint project? That would keep things lively. Hopefully a 3d one.

>>12753461
I'm thinking of moving on to another project but I'm torn between getting people together vs having full control over everything

>>12753461
Because it is difficult to get random strangers to agree on something. Not to mention it is rare to find people able to do 3D stuff.

I need to redownload Gensou Shoujo Taisen ei, apparently jp stopped having a dedicated thread.

>>12757036
nevermind found it

>>12753566
Just do everything yourself like ZUN, ad make a walking around simulator of 2hu with 2hu's popping up randomly in the human village.

>>12757042
Gone Home was a piece of shit, on top of beinf feminazi propaganda.

How do I make a game? What game is easier to make, regardless of quality?

>>12762704
>regardless of quality

probably the exciting game of printf("Hello World");

>>12762704
Games with very little content, where the gameplay time comes from repitition. See , endless runners, flappy clones

>>12753573
unity

Woah, this thread is still ongoing.

"Tenshi doing stuff" dev here. I didn't have any time to work on the game and even a collab game recently, to be frank I didn't even have time to browse /jp/. Like I said earlier the problem was about finding good graphics and sprites, it's always about getting good graphics and sprites.

I got tired of looking around searching for those, and not only for 2hu. Unless I decide to learn to draw which is not going to happen I doubt I'm going to try to make or finish any games, the pain you have to go through just to get arts is not worth the effort in my opinion.

>>12765804
You should release the source code so someone else can pick it up and work with it

>>12765804
>Woah, this thread is still ongoing.
I'd like to contribute more, but with the recent events, I'm not going to work alone again. If I get back to work, it'll be with a complete team and a decent writer.
In other words, never.

>>12766107
>In other words, never
You never know. You could find people willing to work with you.

>>12766187
ಠ_ಠ

>>12766107
>a decent writer
I don't think you realize what type of game you're trying to replicate, son.

>>12769790
Mathematically speaking, given the insane amount of shitty writers, there are to be at least one or two that are actually good.
Question is about whether they can write about something that is forced on them. And whether or not they can adapt to VNs.

>>12769852
On what mathematics did you reach this conclusion?

>>12769867
>I repeat Sturgeon’s Revelation, which was wrung out of me after twenty years of wearying defense of science fiction against attacks of people who used the worst examples of the field for ammunition, and whose conclusion was that ninety percent of SF is crud.[1]
>Using the same standards that categorize 90% of science fiction as trash, crud, or crap, it can be argued that 90% of film, literature, consumer goods, etc. is crap. In other words, the claim (or fact) that 90% of science fiction is crap is ultimately uninformative, because science fiction conforms to the same trends of quality as all other artforms.
-Theodore Sturgeon, New York University 1953.

>>12769537
There's always a chance

>>12769884
In other words, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Has anyone in this thread finished a game?

Random question: What program do you use to program these games... Game Maker? Unity? etc.

>>12769980
No.

>>12770280
In other words, when you don't understand something, it means that nobody should understand it. Interesting how you immediately assume that everyone shares your meager knowledge. Are you that afraid of being left behind that you're constantly triyng to drag everyone to your level?

>>12770349
>these games
Be more accurate. Are you referring to the Tenshi doing stuff game? Or the Touhou Crossing one?

>>12770389
Spoken like a true "indie" dev. May your journeys be fruitful.

I hope that one day /jp/ will be able to make a fangame that's as cool looking as this

>>12771137
>Reimu has no money
Of course.

>Vertical Scrolling Shooter with Twin Stick Control
Just checking, how retarded/not is this?

>>12774166
On a scale from 0 to America, it is extremely retarded.

>>12770280
>Has anyone in this thread finished a game?
I haven't been active on 4chan in 3 years but as far as I know no /jp/er has ever completed a game. There were some who completed small games but I don't really count them. If I'm wrong about this please correct me.

A reoccurring issue I see with indie game design is the inability to stay interested in a project. It is not that they lack the techinical ability to finish it, it's more like they get side tracked by new projects or life. I've paused development on several projects.

>>12771137
Is this Touhou x Frank's Adventure?

>>12775770
>I haven't been active on 4chan in 3 years but as far as I know no /jp/er has ever completed a game.

Me here. I made this comment before reading the thread. Good job on the Youmu game. It's very impressive! I downloaded it for android but don't know how to attack.

>>12775800
Dev here, thanks for interest, I stopped posting about it cause I just gave up trying to fix frame rate and controls, got plenty of complaints on android store and I kind of just put my hands up after not having the motivation to fix it

I decided to make a new project, hope to show you guys with something basic
Lesson I learned was get feedback earlier, by the time I tried putting out that youmu game I had tons of spaghetti already

>>12775989
You SOLD your game on Android Store?

>>12775997
Don't even think about it.

>>12775989
I'm late to this thread and have a million questions for you.

Is the music in that game copyright free; where did you get it from?

I know your game is free but what exactly would happen if you were to put a price tag on your project. Would that get you into trouble with ZUN? I haven't read ZUN's license in a while but I don't recall him mentioning anything about westerners being allowed to use his IP. (Note: Japanese people tend to be xenophobes.)

Any pointers on generating bullet patterns. I wish there was a tutorial on how to make them. Do you use a bunch of equations with sin and cos, or are the bullet patterns very staged i.e., coded in several lines of spaghetti code. My trig is not where it needs to be.

Lastly, have you thought about emailing ZUN and letting him see your project. He might get inspired from it.

Thanks.

>>12775989
>got plenty of complaints on android store and I kind of just put my hands up after not having the motivation to fix it
You shouldn't give up! You've already gotten further in your project than most /jp/sies.

>>12775989
Oh right.. attack is Z or 2nd touch

>>12775997
It's free

>>12776037
On the artists page there's a comment string asking if someone can use it in their game and the artist said they decided it's free so it's ok (I hope that's what it said..) and I think one of the songs is in CtC

I'm not totally clear on the rules, but I have a gut feeling setting a price wouldn't be kosher. What I basically told myself was that it should be no more infringing than other products on androids store. As for banning westerners specifically, hadn't thought of that. I figured if there were other apps like it I could put one out too

Bullet patterns, I started with trying to replicate patterns I thought looked nice, I think that's good practice. Id get a notepad, break a pattern into phases, and try to guess where each bullet is going and why (from a location perspective, not gameplay perspective)

I did think about sending an email in the past along the lines of "so how badly do I need to shut all of this down"
but I kind of want to live in blissful ignorance for a bit. I doubt there'd be a better-than-neutral response though

I wonder if ZUN even knows about his western audience.

>>12776179
He's met moot.

>>12776179
They drank beer together.

>>12776209
>>12776373
Just because ZUN met moot does not mean ZUN knows about his western following.

Also, now that were on the topic of ZUN. What exactly is his stance on westerners selling Touhou games?

>>12776650
He thought they were weird since a lot of men in the western fanbase cosplay as 2hus.

>>12776650
>Just because ZUN met moot does not mean ZUN knows about his western following.
And just because the Jews are rubbing their hands together doesn't mean they have nefarious plans for us.

>>12776737
>just because the Jews are rubbing their hands together doesn't mean they have nefarious plans for us
We are speculating. Please do not bring up well established facts. Thanks.

>>12776650
Have you completely forgotten how zun came to us and had a panel at a con?

>>12776179
He went to an American anime convention and chaired a Touhou Project panel, how the fuck could he not? Maybe he was confused and thought he was actually giving a talk to a field of wheat.

>>12776775
Oh okay that answers it.

Someone needs to ask ZUN what's his stance on westerners making games. This guy >>12776167 is not the only dev who fears how ZUN would react to their western project.

>>12776805
I think he doesn't give a fuck. And that new captcha is retarded.

>>12776805
His guidelines do not single out Westerners. There's no anti-gaijin clause in there, and there's lots of (free) smartphone Touhou crap out there, so he's probably fine.

>>12776814
It looks like someone is upset they wasted money on buying a 4chan Pass. This one click reCaptcha is awesome. Here's to hoping moot's decreasing 4chan Pass sells do not make him change it back.

>I think he doesn't give a fuck.
This is not enough assurance for people who dedicate years out of their lives creating something only to be slapped with a cease and desist letter written in moonspeak.

ITT: retards

>>12776828
>This one click reCaptcha is awesome.
It's only one-click if you're on some sort of Google-approved list. Otherwise you have to both click the button and type the Rorschach afterwards.

>This is not enough assurance for people who dedicate years out of their lives creating something only to be slapped with a cease and desist letter written in moonspeak.
ZUN could hit anybody he likes with a C&D at any time, but it doesn't mean he will. If that terrifying is uncertainty is too much for you, do something better with your time.

>>12776828
Not sure if serious or just oblivious.

>>12776836
terrifying uncertainty*

>>12776836
>Google-approved list
Looks like someone isn't on Google's approved list.

>>12776846
Well, no fucking shit.

I'm assuming you have to be signed into Google for it.

>>12776846
Why 4chan, after all moot's speech about how anonymity on the Internet is awesome would associate himself with Google is beyond me.

Also, given the huge amount of rape lesbian tentacles loli doujinshi, I'd say there's a better chance of Chinese finding Chang'E on the moon than ZUN sending a C&D to some poor westerner.

>>12776851
1. 4chan has been associated with Google ever since the captcha was implemented five yeras ago.
2. You're still effectively anonymous for the purpose of interaction with other people on 4chan.
3. moot doesn't actually care.

>>12776848
Oh wow you're right, you have to be signed into Google in order to get the one click thing. Moot is a retard. Why not just make anonymous accounts. He's basically relying on a 3rd party system to validate his users. A good login system also has a trust system in place. The coding logic for such a system is so easy a child could do it:

1) When the user first signs up make them solve a capcha and make them validate their email address.
2) Make them enter captchas for n days and n post. After they've entered enough post they will obtain trusted status and will not have to solve the captcha. This will separate the good users from the bad users. It is not profitable for a spammer to wait n days just so that they'll be able to get past the captcha. And even if they did, their account could be rejected with a ban hammer thus forcing them to wait n amount of days for a trusted account. This trust system would also encourage users not to shitpost in fear of getting their trusted account suspended.

This system would be 100% anonymous. People seem to think login automatically translates to everyone being forced into name/trip faggotry. Moot is a smart cookie and realizes everything I just said but wants to make a profit from 4chan Pass.

>>12776887
A trust system like that is retarded. It would quickly descend into a circlejerk crap.

>>12776858
1. At least having a mail wasn't required.
2. Google knows where I'm posting, and what I think of black people, which does not pleases me.
3. he's a faggot.

>>12776920
It's still not required. You just have to click two extra buttons compared to what you had to do before.

>>12776887
As trivial as it would be, moot is not going to go out of his way to do work for the express purpose of destroying his only income stream.

None of this has anything to do with Touhou fangames anyway.

>>12776934
>It's still not required. You just have to click two extra buttons compared to what you had to do before.
>You have to click two extra buttons
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE ! I DEMAND REPARATION !

>>12776920
>A trust system like that is retarded. It would quickly descend into a circlejerk crap.
Please do not comment on things you do not understand. I will repeat this: a login system does NOT have to include names or any identifying information. With such a system there would be zero changes to 4chan's layout. If I'm a trusted user there would NOT be an icon next to my post saying that I'm a trusted user nor would there be a way for users to know their post count. You are the poster boy for why moot has not done such a system in the past. You immediately assume a login system means sigs and post counts.

If I misread your response explain to me in detail of how this anonymous system would lead to a circlejerk. Has captcha lead to a circlejerk? Protip: the system I'm suggesting is 4chan Pass without the pay clause.

>>12776952
The system you're suggesting suggests I should put my mail in 4chan's server, which is retarded considering how often it get hacked.
Plus it discriminates against shitposters.
And how do you define a shitposter, hu? If you piss someone off, he'll report all your posts, and unless you're a perfect poster (i.e. you never visited either /v/, /b/, /pol/ or /mlp/), you're fucked.

No, that system is abused too easily.

>>12776934
>It's still not required. You just have to click two extra buttons compared to what you had to do before.
I'm not that guy, but I'm also not one of the lucky, probably because most of Google's domains are nicely blocked at the OS routing level for me.

Sure, I can live with it, but it's yet another irritating step. "CAPTCHA's not so bad, you just type a word." "New CAPTCHA's not so bad, you just click a button, type two words, and wait for a stupid animation." Blah blah slippery slope. It sucks worse than it used to, shows signs of getting worse, and shows no signs of getting better.

I used to be able to post on 4chan by hitting tab twice (or was it three times?) and then enter. It just keeps getting worse. In a few more years, maybe we'll have to play a goddamn picture-matching game every time we post (although if you just link 4chan to your Google Plus(tm) profile, that won't be an issue!).

I'd rather have Cornelia-tan than this bullshit.

>>12776952
Has *4chan Pass* lead to a circlejerk?

>>12776961
>Plus it discriminates against shitposters.
That sounds like a plus to me.

>>12776968
Do you really think it's going to stop or even slow down the professional shitposters? No, it's only going to bother the casual ones.
Would 4chan be the same if there was less shitposters? No, it would become bland. It would become a boring place where asking for porn in /jp/ would lead to a kick, where people asking for advices would get the advices they need instead of being told to delete system32.

4chan would become hell on earth. Well, hell on the internet.

>>12776961
>The system you're suggesting suggests I should put my mail in 4chan's server, which is retarded considering how often it get hacked.
Okay now you're just grasping at straws. Let's review the pros and cons of such a system.

>The cons:
Some hacker might get my email address. So? Did you know that just having someone's email address does not give them access to your emails. I'll post my email address right now if you want it.

>The pros:
No captcha. No 4chan Pass.

>>12776968
There are many places on the internet where things are taken seriously. If I want a place to discuss things completely free of casual, light shitposting, I can find such places. Instead, I stick around 4chan because it's not one of those places.

But I recognize that most people don't like shitposting in threads like this one, so I'll stop bitching.

>>12776978
>Do you really think it's going to stop or even slow down the professional shitposters?
Yes. The heavy hand of moderation has tamped down lots of /jp/'s finest shitposters by virtue of making them put in more work for less reward.

GAS THE KIKES, RACE WAR NOW!

>>12776985
And you "forget" the discrimination toward shitposters, and how easily it can be abused to reduce your opponent to silence in case of internet argument.

>>12776994
Maybe you should stop shitposting.

>>12776998
Keep dreaming dumbass, shitposting is the reason I'm on 4chan.
If I wanted real discussions, I would be on some shitty forum where oldfags are licking each other's asses clean by constantly congratulating each other on their most recent wanking device based on armpit and touhou.

/jp/ is like a bar where everyone is drunk and most people are horny, and I like it that way. I like the constant comparaison between Sanae and a 70-years old slut from Russia. I like the flamewars between Ayafags and Sanaefags to decide which one is the whore. I like the "X a cutie" posts.
I like my /jp/ to give the feeling it has a screw loose instead of being a fascist imageboard where everyone agree with everyone, instead of being that light-hearted place where there will always be a guy to post "this is my fetish" about everything.

>>12776961
>Plus it discriminates against shitposters.
I'm pretty sure even 4chan's pass system discriminates against shitposters. Also, the proposed login system does not mean the mods have to always reject a user's trusted status. The mods could just do what they normally do and temporarily ban a user. The mods would probably only reject trusted status if the user is blatantly spamming advertisement links or is using a flood bot. Are you trying to defend the status quo? Do you like the captcha and 4chan Pass? Or maybe you're just shitposting.

The original purpose of the captcha was to thwart spammers, not punish normal users. An anonymous trust based login system would just give a way for good users to post normally. If I've solved 100 captchas and have never spammed, chances are I'm not a spammer and I deserve to be captcha-less.

>>12777017
None of you've described is even shitposting. If you took equal parts /gnfos/, Tokiko's IRC back when he was still posting retarded shit every day, and Warosu on a bad day, that would be shitposting.

What you're describing is just normal posting.

>>12777034
Nah, it's shitposting. Maybe not by /jp/ standard, but for the rest of the internet, this is shitposting, as OP's topic is often forgotten, most posts are just one-liners of some "I want to roll her for anal circumference" kind, and in some case, you just have a picture without any text.

I obviously never visited the deepest part of Internet, but in ALL forums I visited, stuff like that woulda got you banned because you can even say "Shep Schwab shopped at Scott's Schnapps shop; One shot of Scott's Schnapps stopped Schwab's watch."

>>12776985
>I'll post my email address right now if you want it.
Please do.

>>12777050
BEFORE you can even say*

>>12777050
Okay, but I don't care about the rest of the internet. I don't see why you're acting like it's correct to use a not-/jp/ standard when discussing shitposting in /jp/.

>>12777058
Because he other guy is using a term he hasn't defined. Does he mean shitposter by /jp/'s standard, or a shitposter by Internet standard?
Because in the former case, it means that crossboards raids will be extremely destructive, and in the latter case, the tumblr SJW will have an easy time silencing the opposition.

The captcha's goal isn't to reduce shitposting or anything, it's just meant to block bots. Nothing else.

>>12777066
>Does he mean shitposter by /jp/'s standard
We're in /jp/, you fucking toolbox.

>that crossboards raids will be extremely destructive
We haven't had a crossboard raid worth piss in over three years. Even AWA was a drop in the bucket.

>>12776966
>Sure, I can live with it, but it's yet another irritating step. "CAPTCHA's not so bad, you just type a word." "New CAPTCHA's not so bad, you just click a button, type two words, and wait for a stupid animation." Blah blah slippery slope. It sucks worse than it used to, shows signs of getting worse, and shows no signs of getting better.
Agreed. In the same way that the terrorist won, the spammers also won. After 911 all Americans had to deal with the TSA and NSA's mass surveillance program. The actions of 19 hijackers negatively impacted the lives of 350 million Americans. And now because of a few spammers captcha has affected the lives of thousands of users.

How much post have you made today? If your answer is 70 that means you've solved over 70 captchas. If I had a dollar for every man hour that was wasted on solving captchas I'd have a lot of fucking dollars. The proposed anonymous trust based login system would have stopped spammers and saved hours, but moot wants to make a profit from Pass so what can we do. Wouldn't it be funny if Google covered their search box with a photo of beecock and made users pay them to remove the photo. That's pretty much what moot is doing.

>>12777077
You're going a bit off-topic, mate.

>>12777080
That ship sailed around fifty posts ago.

Isn't it funny how moot thought of the 4chan Pass concept after becoming friends with his Jewish overlords on that Canvas website.

Going to speak about myself for a bit.
I tried writing some cute stories here, on /jp/. It went extremely poorly. If I'm going to start working again, it won't be about romancing touhou girls.

>>12777091
Can it be about touhou girls romancing each other?

>>12777103
If you write the story, sure.

If I write it, it'll be about touhou girls killing each other. And the great Cthulhu awakening from h̓̿͒̿ͥ͐҉̳̼̲i̦͍̫̖͖̬ś͍͚ ̧̪̳̣̖̬̪̪̍̓h̗̭̩̮̜͉̼ͧ̐͐̾̇o̤͚̊͌͑͐͟û̯̭͓͉̮̤ͫ͒ͬ͂̉̀̚s̃̅̏̔͗͏̗e̹̱͉̤͇̓͆ͣ͆̆̚͘ i̡͇̣̭͍̭͎ͮͩ̾̆̈͒ņ͈͔ͫ͘͘ͅ ̥͇͑̌̿̄R͓͓͈̐̊͑͋l̸͈̹̠̩͌̊̅̌ͣͥͅy̛ͫ̅ͩ͒ͬ̉̚҉̢͍̪e̫͓̭̺̺̯̤̯̔͊͞t͉̟̖̮̓ͦͯ͂͐̉͒͝͠ḥ͕̬̠͍͇̰̠͛ͩ ͇͕̓̄̊̋̊̌̚͡w̲̗͈͍̞̭̥̘͛̏ͦ͆ͧͭ̑h͊͋ͬ̉ͩͬͪ͏͈̗͍͇̬̠̭͠ḛ̵̢͔̺̙͋ͯr̍̋̾̏̌̄͋̅̐҉̥̹̀e̵̛͚̼̱̿̀ͩͬ̾͆ ̵̡͙̙̫̮͙͎͉̳̫̽͘h̪͆͌̿̓͋͌ͪ͟͡e̜͈͑ͫ͌ ̴̷̹̪̪̤̐̀͒͂̔̈́ͣ̽̀s̳̰͉̯͈̫̯̭͊ͭ̉̇͑͌͛̆͠l̨̛͍̮̆ͦe̳͓̺̺̻̖̝̖̓e̴̜͕͚̥̽ͣͫ̌̋̍͢͜p̠͖̪̪̬̑̋̏̉͑͘ͅs̷̙̞̔̑͐

Ḭ̧̢̻̝͖̦̊̓̀̏͛̿̉͋ͪ̽́ͪ͋͑̉̀̚͞͡Ǎ̶̸̸̡̻͙̬̳̝̫̝̠͉̥̙̗̫̎̉͒̌̋̑̈́̊̉͐͌ͭͣͪ̑̚͟ ̵͑̒̌͏̫̲̻̪̺̱̗͓̞͓̗͇̝́I͚̹̫̯̹̫̘̗͉̖͖̞͇̅̒͌̃ͯ̒ͮ̈́̍ͧ̏̆̏͛ͩ̃̾ͥ̚̕ͅA̧̓ͬ̑͆ͯ̿͊͆̿ͮͯ̏̔̋̉̀҉̨̹̰͎͉̖͉̪ ̡̲̰̙̮̜̰̙̰͎̞̟̬͈̆͐̏ͩ̎̈͌͊͌ͧ̓̋͑̾́́İ̵̶̵͌̊ͤ̀̓ͬ̈́̐͞͏̲̻͇̲̯͔̼͓̘̩̱̟̳̩̗ͅA̵̢̨̧͚͉̗͇̹͙̲̲͖̤͙̙͔͕̝͙͈̓ͦ̽̇͂̿̾ͣͭ̊̓̿̈́̅̌͛̅ͅ ̵̀̿ͩ͋͂͂͌̉ͨ̅̃̚͏҉̱̲͉̹̣͔̰̺̗́͢I̵̸̧̮͎̹̱͍̙ͧ̽͒ͮͦͣ̽͐ͤ̄ͥͯͫ͝A̛̱̱̻͚̘͚̲͇̹̣̘̝͈ͣͪͤ̅̊͂ͩ̇ͬ͋̔ͯ͑̈ͯ͋̕̕͘ ̵̴̸̶̠̗͈͓̮̝̠͍̼̹̬̗̖̼͉̻͈̮̋͐̾͑ͭ̓̆͋̇ͩ̅̚͞

>>12777091
Writers seem to get the least respect.

>>12777103
4chan ate my last post for some reason, so I'll repeat it : if you can write it, sure. If I'm the one to write it, it'll end up being about rats in the walls, cannibalistic orgies, mutilation, arson, sleeping gods, immortality and starvation. And probably about Yorihime too.

>>12776819
You just have problems selling your stuff as westener since ZUN limits most of the comercial derivative stuff to the doujin scenes. I remember however that ZUN stated that he is thinking about changing his regulations to include something equivalent to the doujin scene for westeners. Which he may just said out of politelyness, so don't hold your breath.

>>12780054
>don't hold your breath
Too late.

>>12780054
He doesn't seem to be selling it, so there shouldn't be any problem.

>>12780054
He explicitly mention steam at awa.
Where are all these people coming from?

>>12780172
Wait what did he say about steam at awa?

>>12780172
What did he say, exactly?

>>12780191
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE

>>12775795
I dunno. It's a fangame with Littleshrimps art, the old drawfag.

>>12777358
Sounds edgy. Maybe you could ironically make a super edgy 2hu game.

>>12781754
A real edgy game would be about a guy named Not Important, his rants about how everyone in Gensokyo is a whore, and the intro would end with him taking a AK-47 and stabbing people in the dick.

Extra edginess if he's turned into a vampire during the story and becomes angsty. As well as sparkling during the day.

Maximum edginess if on top of becoming a vampire, he also get bitten by Kagerou and turn into a werewolf during full moon.

>>12782709
I'd play that game.
When will you start developping it?

>>12652337
>https://e48adbced41d9835137f69e9fe4c8e1bffc7ea05.googledrive.com/host/0B9HAldnymhn2eG9sV2c2eGlCZ1E/web.html
It just says touch anywhere, I'm using kb and mouse. Nothing happens.

>>12782841
Type Z. Or W.

>>12780172
>Where are all these people coming from?
Cut me some slack, man. I managed to forgot that and I want to forget that again.
I was thinking of some response to a kickstarter project which he cancelled.

>>12783760
>I was thinking of some response to a kickstarter project which he cancelled.
More info on this?

>>12784447
some fucking morons decided to make a derivative cardgame and tried to kickstart it without getting ZUN's permission

then he said no and the whole project went directly into the garbage can

>>12783760
everything you need to know is in his updated guidelines for which a translation has been graciously hosted by gensokyo.org

>We, and Team Shanghai Alice, have concluded that Kickstarter is not an appropriate method regarding production of dōjinshi materials for Touhou Project. The reason for this is because receiving funds before production is considered an investment, and a method like this can not yet be recognized with the production of dōjinshi materials for Touhou Project.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/18592227/touhou-project-ft-gs-system/posts

Wow, I just heard about this. The way ZUN micromanages his IP is shameful. The Touhou project really isn't the equivalent to the GNU project. In defense of ZUN I suppose he wants an equal playing field and doesn't want the funding of someone's project to overshadow smaller projects. That's a great mindset to have but at the same time it kind of prevents innovation. If the GNU project had that same mindset we would have never gotten a Debian or Ubuntu. We certainly wouldn't have gotten an Android OS. I suppose the Touhou project is destined to be small time for eternity.

>>12784485
>Wow, I just heard about this.
ZUN has has approximately the same guidelines for over ten years

>I suppose the Touhou project is destined to be small time for eternity.
yes, that's kind of the whole point of not letting commercial channels in on the thing - to confine touhou to the channels in which it was born

>However, through our communication with Team Shanghai Alice, they stated that it will take some time, but Touhou licenses may be available for oversea publications in the future.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/18592227/touhou-project-ft-gs-system/posts

Correct me if I'm reading that wrong but doesn't that basically say that ZUN's license only applies to people in Japan and that he is currently working on a license for westerners?

>>12784496
You can apply to ZUN directly if you want to produce goods of a commercial nature; it's not like Good Smile is a doujin group. That's always been the case and I don't see how this information changes anything.

>>12784495
Will Touhou be reborn after the Kancolle anime wrecks in everyone and their mother? It's truly a noteworthy spirit to keep everything so detached from being commercialized by professionals.

>>12784495
>yes, that's kind of the whole point of not letting commercial channels in on the thing - to confine touhou to the channels in which it was born
I think such a mindset will hinder people who could take Touhou to the next level. A website like Kickstarter is mostly used by indies. A single charismatic person could do a lot of great things if they're given a free market. What Mark Shuttleworth managed to do with Ubuntu is a perfect example. ZUN's current polices will scare people like that away.

>>12784531
>I think such a mindset will hinder people who could take Touhou to the next level.
I don't think ZUN cares about taking Touhou Project to the next level. He's perfectly content to have the Touhou derivative scene consist solely of works by unfunded doujin circles... although I guess he is playing with that PS4 marketplace.

What would a Touhou Foundation even do?

>>12784540
>What would a Touhou Foundation even do?
Not sure. I'm simply saying that in order to make big things happen like Ubuntu money is sometimes needed. There have been some great projects which had a budget of $0, but generally speaking most high quality projects require a budget. Kickstarter just happens to be one of the best ways for indie developers to fund their endeavors. Let's be honest, money is also a strong motivator for a lot of people. I'll never sell a Touhou game so I don't really care.

>>12784548
>to make big things happen
I'm just wondering what kind of big thing you're imagining. Touhou is not an operating system, it doesn't need a small army of programmers to keep it bug-free and updated. Sure, the current model will never produce a season of anime or an AAA title, but there's nothing wrong with that.

>Let's be honest, money is also a strong motivator for a lot of people.
And ZUN has decided that he's not interested in having people who need this motivation working on blockbusting Touhou Project works.

>>12784554
>doesn't need a small army of programmers
If you're just trying to make a 2D Mario clone with Touhou sprites then yes you don't need an army of programmers. But if you try to make something big like Smash Bros with Touhou characters you're gonna need a team of developers and artist.

>he's not interested in having people who need this motivation
The vast majority of people are motivated by money. To deny this would be silly.

This is why such threads or western fangames to that extent will never improve.

See? We barely have some touhou games than people are already debating whether they can sell such games or not.

>>12784561
>See? We barely have some touhou games than people are already debating whether they can sell such games or not.
Two things. Firstly, maybe the reason we currently lack games is because we don't have the same financial incentives that the Japanese have in their doujinshi circles. Secondly, are you really complaining about others who are concerned they won't be compensated for their work. Some projects take years of hard work and dedication.

>>12784560
>But if you try to make something big like Smash Bros with Touhou characters you're gonna need a team of developers and artist.
If all you want is a fighter there's Hisoutensoku, and there's also quite a few 3D Touhou combat games out there already.

>The vast majority of people are motivated by money. To deny this would be silly.
And therefore, the vast majority of people won't work on Touhou Project, which is the way ZUN wants it. He's not operating a corporate empire whose goal is to maximize users and/or profit.

>>12784566
>Firstly, maybe the reason we currently lack games is because we don't have the same financial incentives that the Japanese have in their doujinshi circles.
The majority of doujinshi circles operate at a loss even if you ignore the massive opportunity cost of making the thing because it costs them a few hundred dollars just to go.

>>12784581
>He's not operating a corporate empire whose goal is to maximize users and/or profit.
Don't you think you're projecting a bit much? I don't know of any producer of content that didn't want to make as large a profit as possible, or spread their product to as much people as possible. If he didn't care about profit I think the Touhou games would be free. Secondly, if he didn't want as much people as possible to experience his product I doubt he'd have a license that allows people to use his characters. Very few people on this planet are saints. Richard Stallman is probably the only person I know of that rejects money for his beliefs.

Maybe *you* don't want as much people as possible to experience your products, maybe *you* don't care about making a profit.

>>12784608
>Don't you think you're projecting a bit much?
No, because ZUN has explicitly said that he wishes for Touhou Project to remain within traditional doujin distribution channels.

>Secondly, if he didn't want as much people as possible to experience his product I doubt he'd have a license that allows people to use his characters.
He wants people to be free to create their own derivative work and then sell it at Comiket. The one reading extra information into that is you.

I pose a question to you guys. What would have happened if ZUN allowed complete freedom with his characters. There would probably be several professional animes and AAA video game titles out, but I wonder if it would kill or enhance Touhou's indie/doujin following.

Hey guys, I have an idea for a game and I'd like to know your opinion about it.

>>12784638
>Hey guys, I have an idea for a game and I'd like to know your opinion about it.
If you typed that then you have the wrong mindset, so I'm not interested in your project. You come off as an "idea guy" when you say stuff like that. Unless you're a person who has already completed a project then you have zero creditability to say something like that.

>>12784657
Okay.

>>12784618
>Microtransactions, DLC, pre-order only DLC, difficulty modes as DLC, always online DRM, on-screen button prompts, QTEs, shoehorned tacked-on multiplayer, constant hand-holding tutorials...

Do you really want to add Touhou to the list of casual, obnoxious shit that's been released over the last 6/7 years?

>>12784683
Touhou is already casual.

>>12784508
I doubt it. Touhou is just a hobby while KanColle is a business.

>>12784638
>>12784661
I'll lend you an ear. What's your idea?

>>12784773
Nah, don't bother, >>12784657 is right.
I'll make something first, and then ask for help. See ya later, thanks for the ear.

Restarting my game from scratch. This time it's gonna be good!

>>12786262
I want to bang Hina.

>>12784457
>everything you need to know is in his updated guidelines for which a translation has been graciously hosted by gensokyo.org

What do you think I need to know? I do know his terms and the problems many have interpreting them for the western market. The kickstarter thing is a good example of that.
I'm not understanding you, I don't plan to sell Touhou fanworks.

>>12786493
You and me both.

>>12786493
Your penis will get cursed.

>>12786615
But you get to fuck a goddess!
I say it's worth it.

>>12786616
You've never had your penis cursed, have you?

>>12786632
Not yet. It sounds scary

>>12786632
I once had prostatitis and the pain radiated to my penis. Does that count as a curse?

Is there any cool game with a story that isn't totally cliché?

>>12787782
Touhou Mother's story was pretty good in my opinion.

>>12789394
>touhou mother
>good
It was just fanwankery material for xenophobic assholes who love to masturbate over the fact that youkai once in a while eat people.

>>12789773
Then what's a good touhou story for you, mate?

At least it's more original than the usual incident shit, and I liked how it was grim without going full "edgy".

>>12789834
"edgy" is just a buzzword morons use when they don't like a grimderp story.
Also, I'm not >>12787782.

I will write 16,000 words of dialogue/description/plot/whatever according to specifications (grimderp excluded) for anyone who can provide me with evidence that their game has made progress beyond the 'pipe dream' stage.*

*This means a playable demo or similar. Placeholder stuff is fine. Just show me I'm not wasting my time.

After that, if you like my stuff, we can talk about collaborating.

>>12792318
Someone said that we need more artists.

We already have a good amount of developers and writers.

>>12792324
>We already have a good amount of developers and writers.

And very little in the way of actual content produced, for whatever reason. Anyway, I guess I'm essentially replying to these posts, anon:
>>12769852
>>12686302
>>12702598
>>12777091

It sounds as if writing is the one thing they need done.

Anyway, I can't speak for artists but when it comes to writing, there're lots of talented 'writers' but few who can actually be relied upon to deliver the goods consistently and in a timely fashion.

This I can do and this is what I'm offering. But like I said, I need to see *something* before I get to work. And that first 15,000 words comes free of charge, no questions asked.

>>12792398
>15,000

he. I'm already altering the deal. Let's call it 16,000.

>>12792398
If you mean you want to see 16,000 words before considering it okay, I want you to know that with 16,000 words, the story is already over.

>>12792398
If the shorty demo I made a while then enough, or do I need to make another one?

>>12793383
What is this, a picture for ticks?

>>12793386
Dunno. What do you think?

>>12793386
Right. Fixed.

>>12793383
You don't need his help mate, you're a goddamn writer.
Something like >>12656748 sounds pretty cool to me. Of course it's not cute nor very touhou-like, but who cares?

>>12795511
But I'd like to make something cute instead of turning Gensokyo into Westoros and relying so much on original characters to get the story to work.

OCs should be spectators instead of being actors to the story.

>>12795536
I would worry about finishing something first if I were you. You talk a lot, but haven't done anything already, right, Hart?

>>12799307
Making a game requires 5x more work than a story. Not only you need backgrounds, sprites, pictures, musics and sounds, but you also need to write everything.

In your average CYOA, the writer only needs to write one path. In a game, you need to write them all and be sure they make sense.
Writing a story is a damn walk in the park compared to writing a game.

I have a question : it's possible to make a looping ogg file and have it being read properly by RPGMaker, but for some reason all others game makers can't read it properly. Why?

bump

>>12801479
Because meta-data can only be read by specific codecs.

I hope someone remembers me, I'm the guy looking for help making blender models. Well it me forever but I finally got something to post

>>12810783
...
Well, that's a start. It could be worse, especially if you just started.

It's almost the weekend lads, time to procrastinate and avoid working on our game!

>>12811756

boy that sure will be different from the rest of the week

>>12811756
>implying I'm not always procrastinating
>implying I won't get harassed by a troll if I post a finished game here anyway

Still not playable, but I'm trying to prioritize performance and controls this time around
Also wanted to put more effort in textures
hopefully I have something small to run by you guys on monday

>>12811986
Come on man. It's winter break, you can do this!

>>12813138
And do what, exactly? I always get tired of whatever I'm working on, and the only VN I managed to keep motivated in was killed when my HDD was corrupted.
Writing is already a chore, but writing, while it's only the beginning is extremely demoralizing, even for me.

>>12813222
Work on something. Even if you get tired of it chug through it. Doing that will help you in the long run.

>>12812575
Are you the guy who made the Youmu game?

>>12814016
Yep, that's me

The touhou crossing anon again, I got busy but did a little bit more with it.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/covlmh5bdij55ck/TouhouCrossing-12.21.2014.exe

Specifically, added snow terrain and xmas/xmas eve dialogue. also cirno has a new set of winter-themed dialogue.

>>12817468
Hey, original guy who did Touhou Crossing here. Sorry I never got around to working on multiple dialog boxes. I could just never bring myself to work on it. But I can give you a slightly updated version from when I was working on it again months back. It has a crude world generation (which you can disable by changing the default room) as well as saving the world. You can also click near a 2hu and they will follow your mouse.

You'll have to adapt it into your version. Good luck! Sorry I couldn't have been more help.

https://www.mediafire.com/?cq9h4vvhpetpnnq

>>12817468
Please keep trying your hardest anon! It's always been my dream to play a Touhou Animal Crossing game.

>>12817567
My dream is to have a romance VN where I can romance Futo and have a kid with her even through she believed she was sterile.

>>12811679
It does get worse.

>>12813558
I've been working on "something" for two years now. How the hell is that supposed to help me in the long run?
Times passes, and I always get tired of whatever I'm working on.

>>12810783
>>12818726
I like them.

Ddyk here.
Is it worth making a new thread?

>>12819703
Please yes

>>12819870
There you go : >>12819912
Hope it'll be useful to someone.