/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I miss non japanese cant cosplay guy

>>12617137
>2hu
>good

Breaking News: boat porn is popular (but is still declining because it's just porn LMAO).

>>12617156
Who are you quoting?

>>12617162
Touhou is overwhelmingly porn too.
Just look at all these lewd threads on /jp/

>>12617174
ZUN art is already borderlines porn.

It's just so sexually arousing.

2hu makes me want to fuck and suck, fuck and suck all days long.

>>12617137
>>12617156
Go back to /a/b/v/ greentexting shits.

>>12617207
i was obviously quoting the post you dumbass

>>12617178
Chen is the cutest 2hu based off of ZUN's original art. Prove me wrong.

Pro-tip: You can't.

>>12617137
Can't you see that everything is declining? And Kancolle is falling fastest.

>>12617349
Read the OP.
Many C86 works are not uploaded yet.

How is it that IM@S re-emerged?

>>12617362
Cinderella Girls

>>12617349
Christ, are you fucking stupid? Did you even stop to think about how the data was collected? Do you even attempt to use your brain before you speak or are you just a mental retard?

You are seriously fucking stupid.

I told you guys, this is all ZUN's wife fault and th fucking children, I fucking knew it.

Anyways I see this as a way to get rid of my 2hu music backlog, at this rate in just 4 years it'll be gone.

>>12617390
Wow, you should calm down a bit. This is what happens when you write too much text.

ZUN should retire already and leave Touhou with at least a bit of the prestige it retains as a good STG franchise. The latest games, since GFW has been very undewhelming and uninspired and they give the more and more the sensation that ZUN isn't making games for passion anymore.

>>12617437
Games are still good.

Everyone here needs to take it easy

>hurrr my fandom is getting more doujins than yours

Why do you care?

That's cool, but exhentai is a flawed source for reasons I shouldn't need to explain. Use actual comiket statistics or at least a representative sample like doujinshi.org.

>>12617162
>>12617349
>>12617453
>>12617456
>2hu doesn't sucks because... KanColle sucks!
>Who cares anyway?
>Don't discuss things that make me uncomfortable.

2hunigger damage control is hilarious.

>>12617474
This isn't taking it easy.
Just play what you like and have no cares for tomorrow.

>>12617137
Where is love live?

>>12617472
Doujinshi.org have a shit search function and lacks tags.
Comiket catalogues are a pain in the ass and I doubt they are harvestable.

>>12617499
I considered adding others, but they would've been just distractions making the chart difficult to read. Gundam and IM@S were my control data. I should have added Oreimo though to see a spiking type of popularity.

RIP 2hu popularity.
I don't even care. 2hu had a good and long run.

>>12617474
This might as well be bait, but my point stands.

I don't even like Touhou. I just think whoever is behind these threads is pathetic for coming here on his crusade to prove that "I am better for consuming Product X™, and you're inferior for consuming Product Y™".

Grow the fuck up. This is like kids fighting over the superiority of either Digimon or Pokémon.

>>12617551
Yeah, it's so obvious Pokémon was better.

>>12617516
Love live is pretty much the biggest new kid on the block right now after boatsluts.
The love live mobage pretty much beat cinderella girls to a pulp. It is also one of the 3 tv series to beat the fable 100k marks disc sales.

>>12617566
Rabu Raibu is good
Shipsluts are bad
Toho is dead

>>12617137
>How could I possibly like something if the other Otaku® don't like it too!

I'm quoting you

>>12617174
>Touhou is overwhelmingly porn too.

Touhou porn is just 10-15% of Touhou doujins depending on convention. Kancolle is almost nothing but porn.

>>12617137
>C86

Stop being a retard.

Number of Comiket Touhou circles dropped since they moved to Reitaisai.

Kancolle had 2k circles at C86. Touhou had 5k circles at Reitaisai just 3 months before C86.

>>12617604
>Kancolle is almost nothing but porn.
I know where you got the numbers for 2hu from, but let's see them for Kancolle.

>>12617474
Who are you quoting?

>>12617137
>this is Comiket we are talking about, the biggest and most prestigious one.

People were asking Touhou to stop flooding Comiket for years.

When it finally does and moves to it's own conventions people start screaming it's dying.

I won't be surprised if touhoufags get mad at all this bullshit and next time everybody from Reitaisai will also apply for Comiket. Meaning 7-8k Touhou circles.

Of course most will be denied entry since there isn't enough space at comiket, but statistics and boat tears would be hilarious.

>>12617615

Go take a look at C86 catalog.

Why is Kancolle porn so shit? Every doujin is the same. You read one of them and it's like you read all of them.

>>12617619
Eh, you better remember that there's another Reitaisai coming up next month. And not to mention, Kouroumu was pretty fucking eventful this year as well

>>12617630
Perhaps the same could be said of all doujins.

>>12617137
KanColle
>Fun game
>Professional art and voices
>Played and enjoyed by people of all ages
>Fun game

2hu
>No one plays the games
>Horrible art
>Only popular due to cancer such as IOSYS and Nicovideo
>Popularly carried solely by memetic catchphrases until everyone got sick of it
>No one plays the games

Verdict: 2huniggers BTFO

>>12617644
Who are you quoting?

>>12617642

Not really. There are plenty of fun doujins out there with nice plot.

Kancolle is just boring as shit. It's always the same boring Teitoku fuck.

>>12617137
Everything is down, Otaku culturr is finished!

>>12617651
Teitoku is the Rinnosuke of Kancolle.

man who gives a shit, what wud ur granddad, who fought in ww2 think if he knew his grandson is making graphics about some japanese cartoons on the internet.

>>12617644
>Fun game

Game is complete garbage even compared to other similar games. It's a complete joke. Everything is decided by RNG.

>Professional art and voices

You mean generic as hell art that gets lewder and lewder to attract people. And the face of the franchise is a slut barely wearing anything.

>>12617668
Luckily they're dead or confined in an old people's place.

>>12617661

Rinnosuke barely gets any doujins. And I can't think of any recent doujin with him.

>>12617670
Congrats dude, you just made a serious reply to an obvious shitmæstro.

>>12617668
He would be proud of his son honoring the Tripartite Pact.

>>12617670
> Everything is decided by RNG.
Much like touhou

>>12617499
In the trash, after the tickets were extracted from this anime thing (the extra you get when you buy a concert lottery ticket to see your favorite idols).

>>12617644
2hu hasn't been BTFO. Its more like its finally retiring. It had a good run and when it was fresh, people were all over the games. Though the art was always horrible. Once those lost the hype the memes and shit you see now were what kept it going much like a star as it enters a red giant stage near the end of its life. Kancolle is brand new and full of the hype 2hu once had. Remember all things come to An end eventually.

>>12617137
You can clearly see the spikes in 2hu after Marisa Stole the Precious Thing + Overdrive and Cirno's Perfect Math Class. More proof tat 2huniggers simply don't care about the games, just the memes.

>>12617137
There are tons of problems with that graph.

1. You're using all languages, not just Japanese. That means that stuff that is translated is counted multiple times. This means stuff with large fanbases outside of Japan are counted more than stuff without significant fanbases outside of Japan. It's not representative for what's created.

2. You are pulling from sadpanda. Again, gaijin bias kicks in because it affects what gets uploaded there and what doesn't get uploaded there.

3. You are pulling from sadpanda. This heavily biases the statistics towards porn.

4. You are counting only doujin manga. Fanbases with a significant amount of non-manga content (such as, say, Touhou) is not represented properly because of this.

5. You are pulling from sadpanda. The userbase for sadpanda is overwhelmingly male, while Comiket's gender distribution is roughly 50-50. Works with a lot of female fans are not properly represented because stuff that caters to their interest will be uploaded less.

6. KanColle only has three data points, of which one is estimated. This is not enough to discern any pattern.

7. You are counting absolute numbers, rather than relative comparisons. If the popularity of Comiket declines, so will the number of doujins, and vice versa.

I could go on with more issues, but it's clear you either have no idea how statistics work or are purposely drawing conclusions from unreliable data sets.

Of the original big 3 of type moon, 2hu and vocaloid during the mid 00s, 2hu was the last to fall.
Creativity is dead. Nothing is going to fill the void left by them.

>>12617701

2hu isn't retiring at all.

There is less circles at Comiket because they moved elsewhere. There is much more doujins at Reitaisai now.

And watch Kancolle sink in a year. It's a fad.

>>12617726
Probably except Touhou 15.
I'm still expecting Seija to reappear. SEIJA IS LOVE SEIJA IS LIFE

>>12617716
You clearly didn't read the OP.

>>12617137

Touhou + Reitaisai gives me 108 pages of porn on panda. Stop being a retard.

>>12617730
The disclaimer about the accuracy of the data in the OP basically means ``I made you a nice graph, but beware, it's completely bullshit and irrelevant.''

>>12617733
>``"

Opinion discarded.

Where is Lovelive?
According to this now dated google trends graph touhou and LL were pretty close. LL might be beating it now.

Tuhu managed to gather and maintain popularity because zun made games every year, but what will keep kancolle alive? From your own graph op, that boat is already sinking.
Thats being said,

>>12617745
I don't get rabu raibu. How come it got so much following? Did they follow ZUN's path and offered souls to the demons of hell in exchange for popularity? Did they sacrifice many souls of the unborn underneath the waning full moon of the month?

>>12617745
LL is even more of a fad than KC. It's just idols (and porn).

>>12617668
He'd be pissed at my dad for mixracing.

>>12617755
I think the popularity of the game is to blame and when season 2 aired everyone including non-otaku were excited.

>>12617755
marketing (also exclusively targeting the idol crowd)

>>12617753
New and innovative boat porn

>>12617755

Cute girls, really hot designs and anime was actually fun. I expected shit but it was a great ride.

>>12617766
>exclusively targeting the idol crowd

It's not really doing that though. I don't give a fuck about idols but anime was great to watch.

They were targeting cute girls do cute and lewd things crowd. Not the idol crowd.

>>12617789
You liked the anime, good for you. It's not the main reason why LL is popular though >>12617690

>>12617803
At best LL would only kill idolmaster. 2hu is of a different category altogether

>>12617789
Idolfags have no interest in anime or any 2D personality (seiyuu included), it's funny there're still the misconception among western nerds to throw idolfags and aniota into the same bag when in reality they're two clearly separated fanbases that never overlapped in history.

>>12617716
>You're using all languages
Wrong, lrn2read. And even if I were using every language it would still be accurate, because if people are more interested in translating one thing than the other it means something.
> gaijin bias kicks in because it affects what gets uploaded there and what doesn't get uploaded there.
Sadpanda has every doujinshi that ever got uploaded on the internet somewhere at some point. Literally every fucking thing. The majority of the IPs in the torrents are japanese too. If you think of comissions, those affect everybody equally and mainly gear towards less mainstream stuff, so they are a non-issue.
>This heavily biases the statistics towards porn.
It isn't. See previous point.
All this >muh sfw touhou doujins myth must stop. Kancolle and every bigger fandom have a lot of sfw stuff too.
>You are counting only doujin manga
I never said I'm not. Are you trying to say that less touhou manga doesn't mean less touhou remixes? These are tied together.
>The userbase for sadpanda is overwhelmingly male,
So what? You mean touhou and kancolle are not overwhelmingly male fandoms? Touhou has 1 confirmed male while Teitoku can be both male and female (there is female TTK art out there).
Do you think men don't fap to good female art? Do you think in most cases men even know whether an artist is male or female? Are you serious-fucking-ly think yuri doesn't get scanned?
Only yaoi shit doesn't get scanned and that's because males don't give a fuck and females can't use computers. Luckily, yaoi doesn't matter here.
>KanColle only has three data points
In which it clearly outrepresented touhou in the last 2 events. This can be taken at face value.
>You are counting absolute numbers, rather than relative comparisons. If the popularity of Comiket declines,
>Comiket
>decline
Exact numbers doesn't matter anyway, trends and ratios do.

It's you who has issues with knowledge of statistics.

>>12617644
>Fun game
>muh buzzword

>Played and enjoyed by people of all ages
So just like mobile phone garbage.
L
O
L

>>12617803

This is one volume. Show is still doing like 50k average per volume without tickets.

Few autists going full retard over a ticket then showing it off on 2ch means nothing.

>>12617865

Congrats on wasting time making this post.

OP chart means shit. Last Comiket had less than 2k Touhou circles. Reitaisai had 5k.

Touhou Circles simply moved to their own convention. Comiket is the largest convention only because of fujoshis anyways.

>2hu
>all kinds of youkais, from lolis to oldhags, from futas to pure maidens, all kinds of bitches you can fuck with solid and canon personality which can be developed in an interesting way from the sexual pov as well

>kancolle
>boats and vapid characters wearing slut costumes


even 2hu porn is superior lel

Not the person you were arguing with before.

>>12617865
>Wrong, lrn2read. And even if I were using every language it would still be accurate, because if people are more interested in translating one thing than the other it means something.
Well, yeah, but it's not something we're interesting in. I don't care what Thais and Russians get up to.

>All this >muh sfw touhou doujins myth must stop. Kancolle and every bigger fandom have a lot of sfw stuff too.
The ratio is lower by a factor of like, four. The last time anyone bothered counting is that 15% figure H-doujinshi that people keep throwing around from 2009, but even if it's higher than that now it's still way fucking lower than Kancolle. If you look at what's uploaded for Kancolle, and what's in the Comiket catalogs there's just absolutely no way the ratio of Kancolle H is lower than half.

What shit place /jp/ has become when no one points out this thread reeks of /v/'s cancer.

>>12617941
I just checked exhentai (banning out most languages), and there's 30% more Touhou non-H than H. Whereas, there's 650% more Kancolle H than non-H.

>>12617947
/jp/ has been a wellspring of cancer for at least three years. Get over it.

>>12617947
Shut up, stop meta-commentating and join in the laughter at the autists who are taking OP seriously.

>>12617929

2hu porn is ridiculously superior.

I was actually looking forward to boat porn since I actually liked the game at first and some designs are good. But it's pathetic. All doujins are the same.

>>12617974
>All doujins are the same.
Pretty much. All doujins happen in the only possible setting ("The Room") and the plot is "Teitoku let's fuck!" 99,9% of the time.

2hu still had the most circles at comiket, what do you want

This is literally the only good Kancolle doujin released: http://exhentai.org/g/732807/e915d34378/