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Visual Novel translation status


12Riven- 44.5/72 scripts translated, 3/75 scripts edited
Air (Project 1)- Through QC, some tech work remains before patch
Amagami - 1st day patch Released for PS2/PSP, "979/2308 original edition scenario scripts translated (42.4%)"
Amairo IsleNauts - prologue and common route fully translated, Shirley route 5% translated, Masaki 18.5% translated, bonus 20% translated, prologue patch out
>Cannonball - Fully translated and edited, in QC
Clover Day - 500/648 KB of the common route + 74/722 KB of a route translated
Cocoro Function - 14735/53644 (27.47%) lines translated
Haruka Na Sora - Sora 11.29% translated, Kozue 23.73% translated
Hatsukoi 1/1 - Being translated
>Killer Queen - all scripts translated including H-scenes and edited, 51/72 scripts through QC, plans also include translating Secret Game and Rebellion
Koichoco - 100% translated, 228/397 files edited
>Koiken Otome - 88.05% translated, 63.51% edited, prologue patch released
>Koisuru Natsu no Last Resort - 20338/36325 (55.99%) lines translated, Common + Umi + Riho route translated
Kud Wafter - 11789/33132 (35.58%) lines translated
Kurukuru Fanatic - 56.1% translated
Lamune - Nanami route partial patch released, Hikari route 1436/6085 lines translated
>Little Busters - Original released, work ongoing with EX./ME content, now a joint project with Doki. 25784/30163 new lines translated
Lovely Cation- 505 / 26959 lines translated

>> No.12505056

Magical Marriage Lunatics - ~12% translated, ~8% edited
Muv-Luv Altered Fable - 65% partial patch released
>Muv-Luv TDA 01 - 50% translated
Noble Works - 11,326 / 57,690 (19.6%) lines translated, partial patch released
>Oreimo PSP - 100% translated, 208/299 through TLC+Editing, 193/299 scripts finalized, Kirino + Ayase partial patch released
>Oreimo Tsuzuku - 185/268 scripts translated, 78/268 through TLC+Editing, 64/268 scripts finalized
Popotan - 6% translated
>Princess Maker 5- 85.89% lines translated, 28.13% of lines finalized
Rance 5D - 35% translated
Rance 6 - 5% translated
Rance Quest - 13.92% messages and 67.35% strings translated
Rose Guns Days 3 - 60% translated and edited
>SakuSaku - Common route + Konami route fully translated, 17196/49257 (35%) lines translated, 9260/49257 (19%) lines finalized
Sonicomi - 211/18196 (0.6%) lines translated
SonoHana 10 - Being translated
SonoHana 11 - Being translated
SubaHibi - Down the Rabbit Hole I patch released, 48564/53520 (90.7%) lines translated and 40597/53520 (75.9%) lines edited
>Sukisho! - First Limit - 92.19% translated, partial patch released
Supreme Candy - ~14273/43261 (~33.0%) lines translated
>Tasogaredoki no Kyoukaisen - 18592/19641 = 94.66% lines translated
To Heart2- 67% translated- "The final product is still years away unless I get more help. ", new alpha patch released
Witch's Garden - 10163/53732 (18.91%) lines translated
White Album 2 - Opening chapter fully translated with a "rough patch", Closing Chapter: 3024/35275 (8.57%) lines translated
Yoakemae Yori Ruriiro Na - 100% translated and edited, 54% QC, partial patch released
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 69.69%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 73.62%, Motoka 30.17%, Common and Kazuha fully edited

>> No.12505060

Official work

MangaGamer
D2B vs Deardrops - Sept 26th release
Cartagra - demo released, October 31st full release
Kyoudai Hiai - Beta complete
Yome no Imouto to no Inai - In scripting
Royal Guard Melissa - Beta complete
Princess Evangile - In beta
Space Pirate Sara - In scripting
Kara no Shoujo 2 - 22.2% translated, 22.1% edited
Free Friends - Fully translated and edited
Free Friends 2 - 16% translated, 16% edited
Bokuten - 38.6% translated, 10.1% edited
Da Capo 3 - Prologue + Ch. 0 complete, Common route 36.6% translated, overall 24.6%
Higurashi (retranslation) - 14.5% of Watanagashi TL, Onikakushi editing finished
Gahkthun - 38.4% translated, 15.3% edited
No Thank You - Fully Translated and edited, in scripting
OZMAFIA - Main route: 3.6% translated, overall 0.4% translated
Eden - Fully translated, 28.8% edited
Euphoria - 36.1% translated
House in Fata Morgana - 2.5% translated
Supipara - Intend to fund through Eden's sales

JAST
>Romanesque - Nearly finished, now in preorder
Hanachirasu - 99% complete
Django - Couple more months of translation
Sumaga- Fully translated, in editing
Seinarukana- Mostly translated
Starless - In translation
Trample on Schatten- translation about half done
Shiny Days - Translation finished
Raidy III - TL finished, in insertion
Sweet Home - In translation
Sumeragi Ryoko - Picked up

Sekai Project
World End Economica- Chapter 2 by end of year
Fault -milestone one- - end of the year release
Grisaia no Kajitsu - All ages PC release based on the Vita release planned
Clannad - picked up

Other
Tears to Tiara II - October 14th release
Moenovel is working on another title
Eiyuu Senki - PS3 version picked up
Lucky Dog - Possible iOS released based on the ongoing text only fanTL
Work being done on a fanTL of Shin Koihime with hopes of getting it licensed

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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

>> No.12505062

Why do you keep advertising machine translations?

>> No.12505070

>>12505062
bcuse ur a faget

>> No.12505163

Has anyone checked out the prologue patch for Noble Works? If so, is the translation shit?

>> No.12505170

>>12505163
>fuwanovel

It's edited machine translation.

>> No.12505174

>>12505163
>may i ask? which part of work that does by the "translator" ?

>actually i am a bit interested to help, but i have no idea how to do it. if i just need to translate a text to text (not extract it from game file and change it as a patch file, or anything that recuired an advanced programing skills) maybe i can help, since i have some free time on my hands.
>well, i am not a native english speaker..... so maybe i will make a grammar error here and there. but if you dont mind, maybe i can help.

This guy offered to join.

They said
>Don't worry too much about the English

>> No.12505177

>>12505174
>Hi, may I know do you guys still need translation help? I'm still in my first year for Japanese but this may be a good opportunity to improve my language.
Another one of their translators.

>> No.12505179

I've been away from the scene for a while. Is the I/O translation completed?

>> No.12505180

>>12505177
Damn, I took 3 years of Japanese in college and I can barely read Shounen Jump...

I should go translate a VN

>> No.12505181

>>12505179
Yes

>> No.12505193

>>12505181
Thanks. I was sure that someone would respond by posting a bunch of spoilers, but I guess I'm just jaded. Thanks for proving me wrong.

>> No.12505194

>>12505193
Why would anybody give a shit about I/O?

>> No.12505212

>>12505194
For the same reasons that people give a shit about Ever17 and YU-NO? Or at least that's what I was led to believe.

>> No.12505216

>>12505212
You were lied to.

>> No.12505225

>>12505216
Oh my.

>> No.12505233

>>12505193
Not sure what the other guy is trying to do, but yeah, you had nothing to worry about. I/O is a plot-oriented VN so of course nobody on /jp/ bothered reading it. Remember this is the site that gets up in arms about all ages versions, and I/O doesn't have sexual content to begin with.

On the bright side, this means you can read and judge it for yourself instead of listening to the stupid opinions regularly proffered on this site.

>> No.12505237

>>12505233
I remember you. You wouldn't stop bitching about how the only VNs anybody should care about are deep mature ones for deep mature adults like you. How many dead on arrival threads did you make about I/O again?

>> No.12505246

>>12505174
>>12505177
Those two will give up immediately. IHe was just testing their resolve. But like he said, it's a pretty easy translation. There are certainly worse ideas than using those people to save some time. Either way, it will be done cleanly and smoothly. So don't take quotes out of context.

>> No.12505251

>>12505237
I didn't make any threads, as that would be an immense waste of time. I'm guessing you have me confused with someone else. You must be pretty mad about it, though, considering how quick you were to attack me over nothing. So this is the kind of brain damage that you sex-obsessed fiends are known for.

>> No.12505253

>>12505246
>Either way, it will be done cleanly and smoothly.
Name one instance where this has applied to any Fuwanovel project.

>> No.12505254

>>12505246
>IHe was just testing their resolve.
Didn't quite hit backspace enough?
I'm sure you were.
After all, isn't that how you make a good translation? By putting together a lot of shit ones and random words from people who have no idea what they're doing and then cleaning it up?

>> No.12505256

>>12505251
Now complain about how nobody's translating adult VNs for adults like you.

>> No.12505258

>>12505254
Hey, it worked for Clannad!

>> No.12505262

>>12505253
>Name one instance where this has applied to any Fuwanovel project.

That's easy. The Noble Works translation project.

>> No.12505267

>>12505258
Objection. Nobody cleaned up Clannad.

That's what Sekai Project/Doki is doing now so they can claim to have retranslated it.

>> No.12505269

>>12505256
What the fuck are you talking about? It sounds like you're frustrated that translators have generally moved away from your precious nukige.

>> No.12505271

>>12505262
You just said that it will be done. Are you now saying that you've already cleaned up shit to put it into your shit project?

>> No.12505272

>>12505267
Yep, and now they're going to make big Steamy bucks from it. Clearly a successful example that all translation projects should seek to emulate.

>> No.12505273

>>12505269
Yeah. Now only mature games will be translated for mature people.

>> No.12505275

>>12505254
Well, it's not like you know Japanese, so it's not like you'd notice unless other people said so. Suffer through the pain of being completely and utterly fooled.

>> No.12505276

>>12505272
If it sells as well as Planetarian has, they're not going to be making anything but fools of themselves, and since anybody who was interested in it would have played it years ago, I'm not sure who they're expecting to buy it. The same French 12 year olds Moenovel was courting?

>> No.12505277

>>12505276
Not that I bought it, but I'm sort of disappointed that Planetarian sold like shit since it's a lot better than some of the random shit that magically blows up on Steam.

>> No.12505278

>>12505275
We could put that to the test if you'd like. Go ahead and post some scripts.

>> No.12505280

>>12505273
That is what has been happening, yes. You just haven't noticed because you've been busy making stupid sarcastic posts. You must feel so good thinking you've "outwitted" some guy on the internet. Too bad you're just jumping at shadows and I have yet to recognize your inconsequential existence.

>> No.12505283

>>12505280
Bitch, have you even looked at the OP?

>> No.12505285

>>12505276
Don't underestimate Anime Power. You may be right, and I frankly hope you are because I'd love to see SP crash and burn, but it's too early to declare it a failure.

>> No.12505288

>>12505277
Don't worry. If it fails, SP will just do yet another KS. Maybe they'll translate the gameboy technical manual for $15000 next time.

>> No.12505289

>>12505283
Yes, and I see nothing but good things coming my way. It's your fault for thinking I'm someone I'm not. Who's the bitch here, bitch?

>> No.12505290

>>12505271
I'm not saying any of that, considering I don't have a shit project.

>> No.12505295

>>12505290
It's born of shit, built out of shit, and welcomes people shoveling more shit into it.

>> No.12505299

Why people always so negative about Fuwanovel? I mean they did release a translation right? Stop judging.

>> No.12505300

I hope I'm in a level one hundred irony field right now and this exchange is only ironically happening.

>> No.12505301

>>12505299
So you're only allowed to judge something before they release something to judge?

>> No.12505302

>>12505299
If you don't know the language, you're not translating any more than looking at a complicated equation and writing a random number. You're just guessing.

So no, they haven't released a translation. Any of them.

>> No.12505305

For Clannad, the Kickstarter will assure that it doesn't do poorly financially, however it's doubtful that a digital download will do that well. Some VN translations get well into the 5 digit or even occasionally approaching 6 digits in terms of downloads (and Clannad likely is near the top of most played English VNs), and it's quite hard to sell a digital download to someone who has already played the title. This kills much of the potential market for Clannad. On the other hand, a Kickstarter (especially if they have physical rewards) can take advantage of this potential audience.

>> No.12505307

>>12505295
Who even are you? Have you ever made a video game? Do you eat shit?

>> No.12505313

>>12505305
Siphoning money away from people for old things with no market value and little chance of success hurts the industry, not helps it.

>> No.12505316

>>12505313
You realize that people can just make more money, right?

>> No.12505319

>>12505302
And how do you know it's not a translation? You didn't translate it. He's right. You're just judging, but you aren't DOING. You don't have the right to be negative. You never will.

>> No.12505321

>>12505316
>>12505307
You're trolling too obviously. You have to be more convincing.

>> No.12505325

>>12505319
Only the creator of a work is allowed to criticize it. Right.

>> No.12505326

>>12505321
Sure, it's trolling just because you can't answer it. If you don't answer it, you're the troll.

>> No.12505329

>>12505325
Wrong. Only the creator of a work is allowed to criticize works. Produce something of your own before you start talking shit. You have nothing to be proud of. You don't even know what you're doing. Translate.

>> No.12505331
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12505331

After planetarian's failure and now dengeki stryker, is the the steam well confirmed for poisoned?

How does this bode for the future? I imagine mangagamer can just go back to porn, but what about dovac? Did he a monster that will destroy him?

>> No.12505333 [DELETED] 

From Doddler

>Life lessons: Just because you need steam for a game to sell, doesn't mean being on steam will bring you sales.

>To clarify, even if by steam standards it's not doing well, it's selling way faster than Cho dengeki did on our site. So there's that?

>> No.12505334

>>12505329
>>12505326
Go to bed, nobody's biting.

>> No.12505343

>>12505334
You're just scared. Scared of the truth.

>> No.12505344

>>12505331
If things go badly, he will just find decent artists and terrible script writers and have short games made that can be sold to people impulse buying because of the art.

Or he'll get companies in Japan to make games that fit that category.

>> No.12505345

>>12505331
Honestly, how bad must these guys have fucked up? These VNs are the first I've ever heard of a game getting on Steam and selling poorly. Sekai Project REALLY did something wrong, and it spread to MG.

>> No.12505346

>>12505345
In both cases, these are niche games that had already been released for quite a while that they then later released on Steam. I don't see it as that surprising.

>> No.12505349

>>12505346
Didn't stop Ys from selling tons.

>> No.12505350

>>12505346
>>12505345
I mean, what were they expecting, honestly? A large population that was really into VNs but who had never heard of these games before?

>> No.12505352

>>12505344
>Or he'll get companies in Japan to make games that fit that category.
You just described roughly half of the nukige market.

Most of the rest lack even decent artists.

>> No.12505353

>>12505345
Planetarian has nothing to drive sales. The art doesn't sell it, and anyone who knows it is good already has played it and doesn't want to buy it again, and the anime only crowd generally hasn't heard of it.

>> No.12505354

>>12505350
There were a few "story games" that made like a million sales on Steam that had come up not too long previously, that was too much to hope for obviously but a few thousand, even...

>> No.12505355

>>12505353
I keep seeing people talking about the art, but I don't see anything wrong with the art. What does this even mean?

>> No.12505356

>>12505349
Different platform, much larger install base, and other upgrades. I don't see the two as readily comparable.

>> No.12505357

>>12505345

I don't really know quite why planetarian failed, but I think the main reason behind dengeki stryker's failure is that it's 20 bucks. I mean, it's understandable why it's 20 bucks, but every other VN on steam is under that and usually on sale for five bucks.

Steamaboos are just conditioned not to pay those kinds of prices. A lot of indie devs have complained about this.

>> No.12505359

>>12505355
There's nothing really wrong with it (especially compared to Key's other games), it's just old and low resolution and not shiny enough for your typical Steam user who has the attention span of a goldfish.

>> No.12505360

>>12505355
Basically Sakura Spirit sells to impulse buyers on Steam because it has decent quality art which focuses on boobs, while Planetarian doesn't.

>> No.12505367

>>12505359
>>12505360
So it's about the character designs more than the art style, I'm guessing. Ah, if only more people could appreciate such classy girls.

>> No.12505368

>>12505350
We talking about steam. There should be dozens thousands of kids with " it looks just like my animu i have to buy it'' mindset.

>> No.12505369 [DELETED] 

>>12505357
Grisaia in particular is shaping up to be a disaster.

They are going too slowly to get the anime rush, basically none of the tens of thousands of downloads the fanTL got will rebuy in on Steam because they know the of censorship (and selling a digital download to someone who has already played the title is hard enough), and it's price will likely be quite high.

>> No.12505375

>>12505357
Grisaia in particular is shaping up to be a disaster.

They are going too slowly to get the VN out before or during the anime rush, basically none of the tens of thousands of downloads the fanTL got will rebuy it on Steam because they know of the censorship (and selling a digital download to someone who has already played the title is hard enough), and it's price will likely be quite high.

>> No.12505377

>>12505375
Eh, well, they deserve to fail anyway. Grab some popcorn and watch the catastrophe. Just like the scene at the end of Metropolis.

>> No.12505388

Robin here. Paca Plus Translation 110% Editing 111%.

This thread is a real soap opera!

>> No.12505426

>>12505388
Yes, we know, you and Moogy both suck at Japanese.

>> No.12505457

I just read the noble works prologue patch and it wasn't actually that bad so lol @ that stupid fucking slapfight.

>> No.12505462

Doddler also said that cho dengeki stryker is selling better than it did on MG so who knows what that ultimately means.

>> No.12505476

>>12505457
Do you know Japanese?

>> No.12505576

>>12505462

Probably means that it's sold a couple thousand copies vs GGN which sold ten grand.

It's probably fine for dengeki stryker, which was just a quick port, but it's likely a bad sign for higurashi, which they've invested a lot into paying for new sprites and a retranslation.

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>> No.12505641

>>12505629
Is the all time peak based on gamers playing at the same time? Seems really low since Sakura Spirit actually made the top 10 so it should've sold in the thousands. Same with Go Go Nippon.

>> No.12505646

>>12505641

Peak players playing at the same time.

Mangagamer's stated that GGN has sold roughly 10k, so if you were to make a guesstiprojection from that, it would put dengeki stryker at 1k, planterian at 3.5k, and sakura spirit at 14k

>> No.12505660

>>12505646
>implying playing times are related to sales
Look at this nerd.

>> No.12505667

>>12505660

Who are you quoting?

I'm just guessing at sales numbers based on peak player count differences.

>> No.12505691

>>12505667
None of these games have replay value. So take the first number and times that per days live on steam and you should have a closer number to the total sales.

>> No.12505723

>>12505457
Well, you know, I slap hard. I won't let people get away with defiling reality.

>> No.12505727

>>12505629
Considering Dengeki Stryker just came out, it looks like it might have legs. Planetarian is also better than expected when you look at these numbers, but I won't pretend that one's going anywhere.

>> No.12505734

>>12505691
>So take the first number and times that per days live on steam

That doesn't seem any more accurate than comparing peak player counts against a title that we have a solid number of the sales on. EX: If we do that, then Sakura Spirit's sold less than 5k, which we all know is highly unlikely. (63 playing right now vs 76 days)

>> No.12505747

>>12505727

I think Dengeki might do better in the long term. It's too expensive to be an impulse buy and it's not memetastic like Hatoful, GGN or Sakura Spirit, so it's not seeing explosive sales, but compared to at least two of those three it's a pretty solid title and has more content/higher production values than all of them. I could see it enjoying slow, but moderate success in the long run. Planetarian might follow a similar pattern as well.

The real test of the Steam model for VNs will be when we see newly localized releases on Steam, not stuff that's been out for a while already.

>> No.12505754

>>12505629
Where do I find this, anyway? I want to compare these to other things, like those RPG Maker games that keep getting released, and actual Japanese video games.

>> No.12505758

>>12505754

How do you browse /jp/ when you're blind, anonymous?

>> No.12505762

>>12505754

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=steam+charts

>> No.12505776

>>12505747
I just wonder if they'll ever actually do some real advertisement for their games. I think it's silly that Doddler's all "Ugh well VNs are doomed" when MangaGamer didn't even attempt that. And it's not even just Doddler being Doddler - I've seen this nonsense out of big companies that should know better. Like Capcom. Holy shit.

>> No.12505782

>>12505758
>>12505762
Sorry, jerks. I just woke up so I thought that was just a menu on Steam and not the name of a website.

>> No.12505791

>>12505776

Advertising is expensive and none of the major online gaming outlets want to talk about VNs because Japanese games are icky and reading is hard.

>> No.12505792

>>12505776

I don't think mangagamer can really advertise given their tight budget/porn site combination. They can't afford to run ads like J-list, few sites bother to take their press releases because they're porn. It's also hard to spread via word-of-mouth on places like tumblr because of some their extreme content, and places like 4chan just pirate their shit.

>> No.12506048

>>12505331
The forum section of Dengeki Stryker is painful to see and that contributes on giving a bad impression. The ignorant faggots raging because they think they can only get a "censored" product and then going on a crusade saying how they shouldn't buy the game almost make me cringe. Even some guys on the forum already said multiple times that the game is available on MG site.

I also don't think that using the words "all ages version" on the title was a wise move because people then think that there's version that isn't "all ages" which results in what I said above.

Perhaps MG should consider making more apparent on the store page where one can get the original version of Cho Dengeki Stryker.

>> No.12506132

>>12505331
I'm glad they failed considering they just stole the fanTL and didn't even bother to fix it.

>> No.12506135

>>12506132

What?

>> No.12506138

>>12506135
What?

>> No.12506376

>>12505646
Can't find the tweet but GGN has sold over 18k

>> No.12506410

Yes, keep up that LB progress!

>> No.12506999

KuruFana is actually at 64% now, DE Translations has been updating more on their Twitter than their blog lately. Glad to know the project's still alive, I played Wazuka's route a few months ago and really enjoyed the game.

>> No.12507088

The one thing Grisaia will have going for it is that the anime will be in progress or ending right around the time it releases on Steam. Even if the adaptation sucks shit (it will) that will still help raise awareness and will probably increase sales.

>> No.12507121

>>12507088
>the anime will be in progress or ending right around the time it releases on Steam.

What makes you think that's going to happen any time soon? SP's said they're KSing Clannad first and then they're going to KS Grisaia. All that has to happen before it can end up on Steam, not sure that's feasible while the anime's still airing.

>> No.12507164

>>12507121
Can't wait to see what kind of excuse they'll use for why Grisaia needs a kickstarter.

>> No.12507171

I didn't know there was going to be a Grisaia kickstarter, I don't remember seeing anything about that. I just figured half a year would be enough time finish whatever's left to be done for the all ages version.

>> No.12507184

>>12506999
wow

>> No.12507187

>>12507164
Porting costs from Vita->PC of course.

>> No.12507253 [DELETED] 

>>12507121
Editors + QC aren't cheap, you know? We need at least XX.000 $ far a quality® translation.
Or something like this...

>> No.12507260 [DELETED] 

>>12507253
Edit: >>12507121

>> No.12507262 [DELETED] 

>>12507260
>>12507164

>> No.12507267

>>12507164
Editors + QC aren't cheap, you know? We need at least XX.000 $ far a quality® translation.
Or something like this...

>> No.12507269

>>12507262
>>12507260
>>12507253
Having trouble?

>> No.12507271

>>12507267

Gonna laugh if they put that batman guy on Grisaia 'TLC' instead of koestl

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Ded thread.
Ded board.
Ded scene.
Weekly reminder.

>> No.12507387

So whats going on with SubaHibi? is it almost done? Also im really mad about killer queen but its one of the only things worth reading thats getting translated.. Anyone feel like there is nothing to be hyped about? I mean there is Kara no Shoujo 2 and Cartagra but there is nothing else cannonball might be good. Why is noone translating decent story vns like buldar sky?

>> No.12507420

>>12507387
Sorry, Milf Autist. No one will ever translate Buldar Sky.

>> No.12507439

>>12507387
I'll translate buldar sky for you.

>> No.12507486

>>12507420
I just want the good old days to come back when we had a shit load of good translations going on. there are vns to translate but the vn scene is dying. Also how was comyu? I still have to play that actually. I dont here many talk about it so is it decent or maybe even good?

>> No.12507580

>>12506048
If this is what happens when MG sells just an all ages release of something they have an 18+ version of, I can only imagine what the Grisaia forum will look like.

>> No.12507618

>>12507486
Translators these days are more interested in moege/charage than story focused stuff. If you don't like that kind of thing, then, well, rip

>> No.12507692

>>12505791>>12505792
I don't think there's any problem in advertising Steam page specifically.
Also, Kotaku reviewed porn version of Saya, so I'm sure its just matter of sleeping with correct person.

>> No.12507775

>>12505331
I hope to see similar tweets in the future.

>> No.12507805

I think steam hype ending in this fashion is best outcome for vn community.
MG will receive some bonus profit from all-ages ports on Steam, but uncensored versions will remain as their primary market. At same time, steam population will learn more about actual VNs and will learn about non-steam versions, increasing size of community.

Only concerning moment is success of shit like SS. I can see SP teaming up with some shitty studios to churn out dozens of borderline short VNs with nothing but boobs.

>> No.12507835

>>12507486
People who care about VNs are learning Japanese in droves. The VN scene isn't dying, the translation scene is. All is as it should be.

>> No.12507918

People on Steam complaining about an all-ages Cho Dengeki Stryker are fucking stupid. Not only is the 18+ version available on MG's website but having played the 18+ version, I'm pretty damn sure that the all-ages version is an upgrade.

>> No.12508102

It sounds like one of Sekai Projects non Japanese projects (Sunrider) is going to be distributing an uncut patch outside of Steam that works on the Steam release, so I am guessing that is what Dovac meant back when he said Steam was tentatively okay with his proposal to do 18+ stuff outside of Steam.

That said, I didn't see any confirmation about what kind of content is being uncensored (general nudity or H-scenes), so while Steam may be good with some uncensoring done outside of the platform and still work with Steam, dunno if that would work for Grisaia or any other 18+ VN he picks up down the line.

>> No.12508154

>>12507805
Steins;Gate would probably make nice money on Steam, but short of that, the real money on Steam is probably in what could be thought of as all ages nukige

>> No.12508186

>>12508154
>all ages nukige
I'm sorry, what? That sounds like an oxymoron to me. Am I missing some critical insight?

>> No.12508193

>>12508186
He's talking about stuff like Sakura Spirit, presumably. No actual sex, but the main selling point is anime boobs.

>> No.12508199

>>12508193
That makes sense. Thank you.

>> No.12508203

>>12508186
Nukige doesn't imply AO content, I see no contradictions here. Gravure idols don't do full-nude shots, but they are used as fap material. You know, there's such thing as "imagination".

>> No.12508207

>>12508154

Clearly MangaGamer should start making all ages cuts of SHS games and selling them for like $2 on steam.

>> No.12508212

>>12508207
Nah, that would get people to bitch about censorship which would keep sales down

Would be more profitable to just hire SHS make a few all ages games instead.

>> No.12508222

I am guessing Dovac probably had a bad day seeing the reaction on Steam to even just an all ages release on Steam when 18+ is elsewhere. The Grisaia situation would end up being far worse on release.

>> No.12508243

Why are these games call novels? What's so novel about them?

>> No.12508244

>>12508222
This would imply that dovac is capable of analyzing user response and making predictions. He is not.

>> No.12508288

>>12508244
Well, he somehow got retards to buy Sakura Spirit.

>> No.12508297

>>12508288

I think that was an accident.

>> No.12508338

https://twitter.com/dobacco/status/513824771331465216
So dovac self-inserts as Michiru. Explains everything.

>> No.12508942
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12508942

SS is back in top selling games and is featured as linux game on front page. This is the future of western VNs.

>> No.12509035

I actually think Sakura Spirit was surprisingly good. I don't know why you guys hate on it so much

>> No.12509036

>>12508243
It's just an old term that originally meant to distinguish them from regular games by noting that they are in essence meant to tell a story rather than be something that the player is actively engaging in gameplay.

It's not the most appropriate term (and causes a lot of retards to go around talking about them as if they really were books) but we're used to it by now.

>> No.12509058

>>12509035
I bet you think Grisaia was good too.

>> No.12509567

>>12509035
>Sakura Spirit was surprisingly good...
No, SS was mediocre with hilariously awful writing.
>>12509058
Go back to your cave.

>> No.12509722

>>12509058
I bet you regularly make condescending posts like this but fail to justify your opinion when challenged.

>> No.12509729

>>12508942
To be fair, it's pretty fitting for VNs made in the west to be the ones that sell to people from the west. And seriously, it's so much cheaper than the other stuff. Why pay 30 bucks for Stryker when I can get 8 games for a dollar and more playtime out of even a single one of them? Also what the fuck is a py6.

>> No.12509740

>>12509729
>Also what the fuck is a py6
Lol. Its "руб", short for "рубль", Russian Rouble.

>> No.12509754

>>12509729
Also, dunno, maybe its regional pricing or something, but for me Stryker costs 300RUR (10USD) with 50 hours of playtime, while SS costs 5USD with less than 2 hours of playtime.
If you calculate pure hours-per-dollar rate, Stryker is more than ten times more efficient spending.

>> No.12510052

I'm looking at these steam threads about censorship and can't help but remember how dovac and his shills were claiming that "only retards at /jp/ care about such silly things, we will sell censored grisaia to larger population who doesn't give a fuck". Can't wait to see how steamers tear him apart.

>> No.12510072

>>12510052
Well, it's true that only retards care about sex scenes when the important thing in a VN is the plot, but I'm still all for seeing Sekai Project destroyed because they're massive idiots.

>> No.12510095
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>>12510052
Can be worse than this?

>> No.12510129

>>12510095
Something people keep forgetting is that Steam forums are awful for EVERY game. This is only scratching the surface.

>> No.12510160

And it seriously is the worst, ugh. It makes me want to vomit or look up pictures of Shimakaze to soothe my soul.

>> No.12510294

>>12506048
>>12507580
>>12507805
>>12507918
>>12510095
At least it seems that the guys saying on the forums that people can get the adult version of Cho Dengeki Stryker on MG site is having some effect. Cho Dengeki Stryker currently stands as third best seller of the week.

>> No.12510524

>>12510095
It would be worse at least in terms of scale, and all of those awful threads have people correcting the idiots who make them, which wouldn't happen in the Grisaia forums.

>> No.12510548

>>12510095
Damn, I should make an "Ero is holding back eroge" thread in there.

>> No.12510553

>>12510095
The PSA at the top puts an an end to much of the crap, Grisaia can't do that unless that also gets a 18+ release elsewhere. Going forward a similar thing can be done for Eden or whatever else Mangagamer does dual releases for.

>> No.12510592
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12510592

/jp/, pls help.

I'm coming from >>12510452

I'm trying to play Edelweiss. Yes, because I liked Kira Kira and Curtain Call. And I'm getting an error.

I got it from http://erogegames.com/edelweiss-58/.. If I like it, I'll most likely get it from mangagamer, but not until I finish it.

I applied the hybridweiss patch, as explained in the comments of the download page. And I can play it just fine... until you're trying to escape from the island and the water level goes down, trapping you in the island.

After the scenes showing the elevated island end, I get an error dealing with a scrsnd._bp thread thing. Pic related.

Has anybody had this issue. Do you know how to fix it?

>> No.12510607

>>12510592
Yes, that's an easy fix.

>> No.12510614

>>12510607
Could you please run me through it?

>> No.12510630

>>12509035
fuck off, corntastic

>> No.12510635

>>12510592
As far as I remember, that patch still had some issues that were not fixed. Also, as far as I know, no crack has been released for the original Edelweiss v2 so you're probably better off buying the game. If you already intend to buy the game you have nothing to lose.

>> No.12510637

>>12510614
I could, yes.

>> No.12510641

>>12510637
Then, please, do explain how to fix it.

>> No.12510651

>>12510641
Look carefully at the error message, and notice what the error in the error message is. Then take steps to fix that error.

>> No.12510688

>>12510651
I have noticed the error. However, I haven't managed to ascertain how to fix it. Hence why I'm asking for help in jaypee.

I understand the scrsnd._bp raised a threading error. I can even go as far as to tell you the error was a
>CoInitializeEx Attempt to change threading model of this apartment from multi-threaded to apartment threaded

However, given that I'm not versed in the engine used to create the game, the information I've gotten is inconclusive when analyzed against my prior knowledge, which impedes me from solving the problem on my own.

So, if you have fixed this issue before, please, help me out and post a few non-ambiguous steps which would solve this issue so I'd be able to fuck the teacher and the money-hungry grill who catched my fancy during the short fraction of the game I managed to play.

>> No.12510697

>>12510688
Please reinspect the error message.

>> No.12510702

>>12510697
I have. A number of times. And I haven't been able to come up with a solution from it.

>> No.12510711

>>12510702
Then it appears your powers of observation are severely lacking.

>> No.12510720

>>12510711
Really? Well, damn.

Help me out her, man, pls. Just assume I'm technically illiterate, and give me a list of non-ambiguous staps to follow in order to fix this issue.

>> No.12510830

>>12510720
I am willing to bet he is referring to the garbled text at the bottom. It happens because your system is set to a different locale than what is native for the software.

>> No.12511199
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>>12510830
If he was, sadly, he's mistaken.

I tried a number of things (winelocale, specific lang, etc) and even went as far as to change the locale of the whole system, and... still the same issue, but now with a non-conclusive japanese error message. ;_;.

Any other ideas?

>> No.12511266

>>12511199
>winelocale
Uh, have you tried running it on Windows?

>> No.12511325

SP should just sell weeb-written OELVNs, I'm sure they will be more successful that way.

>> No.12511332

>>12511266
I don't use windows.

But it shouldn't be an issue. It's marked as platinum in appdb:
https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=17660

>> No.12511342

>>12511332
>I don't use windows.
Hahaha, enjoy your shit.

>> No.12511390

>>12511332
>I don't use windows.
Found your problem: you're too dumb for VNs.

>> No.12511404

>>12511342
I know I'm being haughty while I'm asking for a favor and that makes me a prick and a retard, but dude, using non-FOSS in an after-Snowden world? When both Microsoft and Apple are part of PRISM and considering the NSA backdoor key that has been known in Windows for 10 years?

Enjoy your self-enforced lack of a 12th universal human right.

>> No.12511418

>>12511404
You probably encrypt all your internet traffic and and have your email cryptographically secured, too.

Ideally, we all would, but if /jp/ is good at anything other than jacking off it's not giving a shit about things.

>> No.12511431

>>12511404
You realize you're asking for help running a closed source app, right?

Besides, hate to break it to you, but the NSA has enough hardware backdoors courtesy of Intel and AMD that they already know all about your perverse fetishes regardless of what OS you run.

>> No.12511555

>>12511404
And while you protecting that so called 12th universal human right, you can't enjoy things you like. Keep up the good work!

>> No.12511575

Speaking of Edelweiss. How is that re-translation that they finally did of Edelweiss?
Is it worth to pick up again because of it?

I read one route, and kind of liked it. But I could never find myself to read more because of the state of its translation.

>> No.12511594

>>12511575
The retranslation is actually not bad, especially if you compare it to the original mess.

>> No.12511885

Is it me or new steam front page is fugly and less useful?

>> No.12511979

>>12511885
Man, I just came here to comment on that. Holy fucking cocks is it bad.

>> No.12511982

>>12510548
Yes, do that.

>> No.12511986

>>12511575
It's okay. The translation is way better but the game is just sort of average at best.

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>>12510592
Hello, fellow VN-playing freetard. I had the same exact problem back when I tried to play Edelweiss. The people here http://erogedownload.com/downloads/edelweiss/ will help you out. Their advice helped me get the game working, although the text is a little messed up.

Also, your Openbox theme is nice. I used the blue variation of it back when I used Openbox as for my environment.

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>>12512036
Free as in freedom bro, you're a lifesaver. You can rape my asspussy whenever you want.

In order for this to remain archived for other players down the line, in case the link you gave me ever goes down, the solution is easy: You only need to rename the OP movie file to something else, so it gives you an error about the OP missing instead of the thread thing, and after this error, if you click on "Yes" (Or "はい", or however your locale has it), it'll let you keep on playing. And then you can listen to UR@N singing the oh so beautiful Ashberry and watch nude scenes without nipples whenever you want on your media player. And if you like Ashberry, I reccommend you download the 15 years Milktub anniversary CD, which has a fuckton of UR@N and the full Ashberry, with lyrics and all.

But yeah, shoud have figured the error was something video-related. The Kira Kiras' OP videos don't play either, although the game just skips them instead of killing it

>>12511555
There might be hiccups, but yes, I do protect my 12th human right and enjoy the stuff I like.

Linux plays all the 2hus, most VNs (even if they do have fixable issues from time to time) and lets me browse the internet in a secure way, play in a huge number of emulators (I'm lately into NDS with desmume. Check out Loop Loop Cube, jaypee, you'll love it), watch the animu I want and read the mango I want, and work.

>>12511418
I actually do. Pic related.

>> No.12512347

>>12512325
Oh, and if anybody wants the Ashberry lyrics without having to download the album, here.

But seriously, get that shit. It's got a Milktub cover (... if you can call it that, seeing as how they wrote it and all) of d2b's O.H.B.I. You know, the school song in Kira Kira, the one they play at the end of the festival with Tonoya and at the end of Chie's route, in the seniors' graduation.

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>>12512347
Forgot my file.

>> No.12512378

>>12512352
Oh, shit, just noticed NANA sings Ashberry, not UR@N. But UR@N does sing it in Eiden Fantasia's OP.

>> No.12512656

MangaGamer answering a question on how Imouto Paradise is selling

>Very, very well. It might actually be overtaking Eroge and Demon Master Chris for top seller in 2014. It's going to be a close call.

>> No.12512681

>>12512656
I'm a bit surprised Demon Master Chris is selling that well.

>> No.12512683

>>12512681
Why? Its yuri + gameplay + top-notch art and its dirt-cheap.

>> No.12512687

>>12512656
>2014's top sellers are currently two games from last year

Well, I guess that means boob wars 2 didn't live up to the sales of the original. Not that 2014 had too much for competition other than the lilith games I guess. Wonder how those are selling?

Imopara's probably sold atleast 1k copies, so that means that Eroge sold another thousand copies. I wonder how much that's up to?

>> No.12512692

>>12512681

It's cheap as shit and it's got (shitty) gameplay

I wonder why mangagamer doesn't go after more titles with gameplay, aside from the technical aspects.

>> No.12513101

>>12512692
Are they any that they would be able to grab, translate and release for a profit?
Most of the ones with gameplay I think of are either too high profile, too long, or both.

>> No.12513123

>>12513101

Loads of em if they're willing to scrape the dlsite-tier barrel. If they weren't after the newest and shiniest there's even shit in their current parent's backcatalogs, like eternal fantasy in circus's.

As for length, well Kouryuu's translating DC3 right now which is longer than any gameplay eroge I can think off the top of my head.

It just seems that there's a correlation between some gameplay, any gameplay, and being one of their better sellers. Check it: Kouhime, boob wars the first, DMC

>> No.12513129

>>12513123
Correction. That aren't doujin games?
If so, name them. particularly ones you've played.

>> No.12513147

これに名前書いて!

エルちゃん予想以上におかしな子で安心しました。もほ~!

Translate this, please.

>> No.12513163

>>12513129
>Correction. That aren't doujin games?

What's the issue with that? It's just more money. Obviously shit from debonosu works or eushully is out of mangagamer's league, so they should aim for what's attainable.

>> No.12513166

>>12513163
Doujin works are probably a different league of legal loops they'd have to go through. With a commercial company The procedure is probably easier to handle.

I'm not saying it isn't an avenue they shouldn't try out, but cmmercial and doujin works handle differently.

>> No.12513210

>>12511885
How curious, two days after the bashing in the forums of Cho Dengeki Stryke all the direct acces links to the games forums vanished from Steam

>> No.12513243

>>12513210
You are very silly if you think that specific game had anything to do with it. It's just an amusing coincidence that it happened right before when Steam decided to this incredibly, unbelievably stupid layout change. I HATE when shit like Steam or YouTube updates and actually REMOVES features or overcomplicates things by doing so, especially when they claim they're doing the opposite. But I bet there's some random indie game you've never heard of where the exact same thing was happening by complete happenstance.

>> No.12513805

>>12513243
The guy from crying translation has thankfully decided not to translate Hello Lady, ruitomo, or &. Instead, he chose In’en no Yu, Akogareteita Ane ga Otoko no Ko Deshita and Gore Screaming Show.

>http://cryingtranslation.wordpress.com/2014/09/22/next-projects/

>> No.12513945

>>12513805
I don't even know who that is or why you responded to me, but holy shit, finally someone is doing Gore Screaming Show. This is cause for celebration.

>> No.12514412

>>12513945
Didn't mean to respond. Whoops. And yeah, it took a long time for someone to pick it up.

>> No.12514420

>>12513147
That's not how you ask for a translation on the jay, newboy.

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>>12512325

>> No.12514633

>>12513123
>As for length, well Kouryuu's translating DC3 right now which is longer than any gameplay eroge I can think off the top of my head.
Da Capo 3's script alone is shorter than a shitload of high profile gameplay eroge, before you even start into all the extra secondary text that often comes with them. Aselia's flavor text for every single skill, character, generic, etc is longer than some (admittedly very short) VNs, and it in turn is dwarfed by games like Kamidori. These games then have their own full-fledged scripts on top of that. Not to mention all the extra interface and image work that needs to be done.

>> No.12514711

>>12514633
http://tenka.seiha.org/2013/08/the-mostly-ugly-entirely-japanese-less-side-of-translating/
Fun reading. Mato's also written a lot on how hard Mother 3 was to translate, but that's handheld so it's not quite the same. Any real gameplay requires a lot more technical and interface work than a regular VN, which is why I'd guess Jast and MG aren't actively seeking too many of them out.

>> No.12514722

>>12514420
Fuck off, you don't speak Japanese anyway.

>> No.12514728

>>12513123
Mangagamer did Devil May Cry? There was a Devil May Cry VN? What?

>> No.12514741

>>12514728
What the fuck is Devil May Cry? A BL game?
It sounds gay as hell.

>> No.12514743

>>12514728
That DMC stands for Demon Master Chris

>> No.12514885

https://twitter.com/dobacco/status/514535909908156416 good I hope he's next.

>> No.12514900

>>12512687

>Well, I guess that means boob wars 2 didn't live up to the sales of the original.

They should still do well with Boob Wars 2 once they get hard copies of it to conventions.

>> No.12515020

why is this EOP thread on /jp/ and not /vg/?

>> No.12515025

>>12515020
Yes.

>> No.12515037

>>12514885
He'll probably find a way to make a kickstart out of it.

>> No.12515245

>>12515020
>>12515025
It's here for EOPs like you two.

>> No.12515251

This game supports English and Japanese. It supports English subtitles. However, expressions can be some what awkward in various places as this game is not native English. It supports Japanese subtitles. However, expressions can be some awkward as stated prior.

>> No.12515256

>>12515251
I like that game, Kaori is so cute.

>> No.12515589

>>12513147
I'm still learning myself, but one question first. What is this from?
My bad estimate is something like:
>Write your name here!
>El-chan's strangeness relieved me more than expected. Moho~
I have no idea what the Moho means. Probably nothing.

>> No.12515695

>>12515589
This is what it is from:
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1801961

I guess that doesn't really explain what the heck the image is about, which is what I was hoping for, but thanks for the translation anyway.

>> No.12515724

>>12515695
Fucking pixiv reposts.

>> No.12515731

>>12515695
Go watch Elphelt gameplay/victory quotes and you'll understand.

>> No.12515803

>>12515731
Ah. I'd seen multiple videos of her gameplay but somehow not one with a victory quote. That does explain it, thanks.

>> No.12515810

>>12515256
What game?

>> No.12515820

>>12515810
That.

>> No.12515878

>>12515803
Wait, does that mean I was right? Fuck, that's encouraging. Another few years and I'll be able to play a VN.

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>>12515878
proud of you anon. You've come a long way, haven't you? :)

>> No.12516691

So assuming the topsellers list by genre is ranked by actual sales(by the day? week? month?), dengeki stryker is outselling planetarian.

and gogonippon is outselling them both

>> No.12516916

>>12515820
What?

>> No.12517055

Can anyone explain -てあげまちゅ to me? Is it a slangy/casual -てあげます?

>> No.12517913

>>12514495
>Tadaima 4chan
I couldn't read anymore of that post No.538712 without laughing.

>> No.12518492

Why isn't FHA on the list anymore? I know it was at 100%, but wasn't it still going through some issues that kept it from a full release?

>> No.12518652

>>12517913
That's not the tadaima you're probably thinking of.

>> No.12518748

>>12518652
I know, But I still laughed.

>> No.12519534

One time I fought a demon that ate human fingers around my dick. I never forgot the stench. The same stench of rotting fingers around my dick that came out of your mouth when you got your mouth around my dick. That's some mouth on you! I don't know what you're up to, Moogy, but nothing gets on my nerves more than fingers around my dick. Now stand your ground!

>> No.12519562
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Majikoi not even listed anymore

>> No.12519681

>>12519562

Takajun is kill.

>> No.12519819

>>12505331
I didn't even realize Planetarian was on steam. Gonna buy it right now and reread it.

>> No.12519834

>>12519819
Please don't, your money would go to a bad cause.

>> No.12519838

>>12519834
>bad cause
What's bad about more official translations? I'd hope good steam sales would maybe convince them for a physical copy which I'd buy too.

>> No.12519858

>>12519838
Nothing's wrong with supporting official translations, so long as those official translations come from ethical companies instead of "kickstart everything, release next to nothing, shitpost constantly when people call us on it" incorporated.

>> No.12519876

>>12519858
They've kickstarted one thing, from the looks of it Clannad and everything else they've announced they're just working on. If they kickstarted all of those I'd agree with you but one product out of many isn't a huge deal.

>> No.12519883

>>12519838
>What's bad about more official translations?
Sekai doesn't release "more" translations — they are re-releasing existing translations.
If you want more translations, go buy something from MangaGamer.

>> No.12519889

>>12519876

Clannad and Grisaia are both being KS'd. dovac's said as much on multiple occasions.

>> No.12519893

>>12519876
> If they kickstarted all of those I'd agree with you
They are planning to KS CLANNAD "retranslation".

>> No.12519939

>>12517055
あげまちゅ is a cutesy way of saying あげます.
I really hope you aren't translating something if you don't even know that.

>> No.12519941

>>12519883
What about fault?

>> No.12520015

>>12519889
Did not know that. Then I'll give you being dependent on kickstarter is shitty for a company, but that means I'll more than likely be able to get a physical copy of Clannad and Grisaia which would be super nice.

>> No.12520031

>>12520015
> I'll more than likely be able to get a physical copy of Clannad and Grisaia
What stops you from getting one right now?
AmiAmi ships physical copies of Grisaia overseas, you don't even need to bother with proxes.

>> No.12520034

>>12520031
Honestly, I like having the official English ones. Might get a few Japanese copies of stuff that will never come over here but I'd prefer English ones if possible.

>> No.12520062
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Webm related. Theme song for webm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN60DR5GQpg

>> No.12520070

>>12520062
How exactly this is related to Visual Novel Translations?

>> No.12520110

I like eating sushi made by American chef than the Japanese one.

>> No.12520129

>>12519838
Thing is, Sekai Project isn't going to be doing any official translations that wouldn't get done without them. Feel no guilt about pirating their products. If you want to support a company, support MangaGamer.

>> No.12520136

So I was wondering, how important is Dovac to Sekai Project? Is he one of the people running the whole rodeo? Or is he expendable, so it's possible they might dispose of him when he fucks up? Like what happened with Yukkuri S and Moogy.

>> No.12520145

>>12520136
dovac is sole owner and head of SP.

>> No.12520146

>>12520110
Ah, this is a deep comment about how OELVNs are, in the end, the superior experience. I like it. They are the ones that get released on and do well on Steam, after all.

>> No.12520155

>>12520146
GGN is JLVN and did well on steam too. Its boobs that matter, not nationality of creator.

>> No.12520162

>>12520136
Did something happen between YukkuriS and Moogy? I thought he just got fired because he was incompetent.

>> No.12520164

>>12520136

dovac is the CEO. YukkuriS is still with them under a different name so they could say they fired him.

>> No.12520169

>>12520162
Both YS and Moogy were fired at one point due to incompetence.

>> No.12520175

>>12520169

Moogy never worked for Sekai.

>> No.12520176

>>12520162
As far as I know Moogy and YukkuriS never interacted with each other. Moogy was never affiliated with either MG or SP, so I don't even understand what he would have to do with YukkuriS in the first place.

>> No.12520179

>>12520145
Tch, so we're going to have to take down TLWiki to deal with him. Time to call in some favors.

>> No.12520181

>>12520169
Moogy was fired for incompetence? Or for not actually doing anything? Which I suppose to be fair is a form of incompetence.

>> No.12520182

>>12520175
I don't mean from SP. But he was fired because of his incompetence as a translator.

>> No.12520185

>>12520182
>[citation needed]

>> No.12520198

>>12520185
Uh, the fact that he's no longer working for them due to having been fired? I thought this was common knowledge, I'm surprised I'm getting challenged on it.

>> No.12520200

So VNTS is just another idol thread...

>> No.12520204

>>12520198

No longer working for who?

>> No.12520209

>>12520204
He was the original translator for Trample on Schatten.

>> No.12520211

>>12520204
JAST.
Moogy was supposed to translate Schatten, yet he didn't even reach 10% progress before he quited.
I don't think he was "fired", since he's friends with Makoto, more like he left on his own will after he realized he couldn't complete the job.

Also, Moogy is still contracted to do some editing for JAST, so he didn't quit them completely.

>> No.12520224

>>12520211
It was the kind of firing that's made to look good on paper because people are scared to offend Moogy even though he has nothing to offer them.

>> No.12520519

Dovac and Sekai Project love to play the "hide as much information as possible in order to slowly string people along" game which is the wrong way to play your cards when there are heavy justified concerns regarding the potential quality of your work. They should have been out there on the day of the announcement informing people of what's happening with the project in order to avoid backlash, but SP doesn't seem to get this and then Dovac gets angsty on twitter when people just don't understand. It's hard to understand you when you say almost nothing at all.

Dovac made a tweet recently where he said something along the lines of "It's hard to give interviews because either you give too little information or people start to figure things out." How would that be a bad thing??? Your biggest PR problem is that nobody is figuring out the positive aspects of your projects and everyone is assuming the worst.

>> No.12520520

>>12520211
I've been into visual novels for multiple years now, and I still find it hilarious that there are people who are seen as some sort of figurehead by some people. Like he's the leader of the visual novel readers. It's so cute that we have our own celebrities.

>> No.12520587

>>12520519
This is dumb because it ignores MG and JAST in this regard. You work for them? Sounds like you are complaining because you need examples of how shitty Sekai Project's translations are.

It looks like they have gp32 and koestl in their group. (plannetarian and grisaia)

I don't see a problem with them besides dovac and YukkuriS whining on twitter.

>> No.12520590

>>12520520
It's more like a circle of sycophants trying to make him look more important than he is rather than actual celebrity status, anyway.

>> No.12520598

>>12520587
You have to admit that the CEO of the company being problematic is a pretty big problem.

>> No.12520608

>>12520590
Yes, that's true. I don't think he's important at all. But we still know who he is, don't we? We're talking about him right now.

>> No.12520612

>>12520598
dovac has always been a troll. Newfags bitching about an old fag turning his connections into money.

>> No.12520616

>>12520587
>they have gp32 and koestl in their group
Just because koestl agreed to help release his Grisaia translation, it doesn't mean he is "in their group". If anything, he is in MG group, since Liar-Soft thing is going to be long-term.

>> No.12520620

>>12520608
That's because there are a shit ton of people from tlwiki lurking in /jp/. They were real bitches when SWR came out and tried to set up tournaments and shit.

>> No.12520623

>>12520587
>Sounds like you are complaining because you need examples of how shitty Sekai Project's translations are.

Did we forget about that idiot Batman already? By all accounts he's even worse than Yukkuri.

>>12520612

Hi dovac. No one's hating on you because they're jealous, they're 'hating' because you and your employees regularly make an ass of yourselves in public.

>> No.12520631

>>12520616
Looks like he jumped ship. MG is losing hard and fast. Even their release of Dengeki stryker fell short according to doddler.
I wouldn't be surprised if MG goes bankrupt with how much money they threw into Higurashi and how poorly it will do on steam. They should have released it 3 years ago but they missed that ship.

>> No.12520632

>>12520620
I don't really mind either way. It's pretty entertaining.

>> No.12520634

>>12520623
All I've seen from this "Batman" fellow is posts he supposedly made in these threads where he made a complete ass of himself. Which is more than enough reason for me to despise him, of course. What was his real handle again? Trantez?

>> No.12520635

>>12520623
Batman sounded dumb, need to see some of his translations. got examples?

>> No.12520639

>>12520631
>Looks like he jumped ship. MG is losing hard and fast.

Hello Sekai shill. koestl's still working for MG. At most dovac acquired his Grisaia TL and that's all, he's not actively working with them.

By all accounts Planetarian seems to be doing significantly worse, especially considering the high expectations. MG's clearly just using Dengeki Stryker to test the waters for full-length games on Steam. It's not like they're failing to deliver huge numbers to impress a big new partner with it. Doddler even said the numbers were turning up after the Steam update while dovac's indicated otherwise for Planetarian.

>> No.12520641

>>12520620
>>12520632
I do mind that Moogy is only "famous" in this "scene" because of a bunch of dumbasses trying to force his popularity on the rest of us and then chuckling about it in their IRC channel like they've accomplished something special. But at the same time I can't really do anything about it (for now), so I don't let myself get too worked up over it.

>> No.12520644

>>12520623
Pretty sure Batman works for MG. He's listed as a translator for imouto paradise.

>> No.12520645

>>12520631
>Looks like he jumped ship
He didn't. He is translating Gahthun right now, while there was zero work done on Grisaia since it was licensed.
>Even their release of Dengeki stryker fell short according to doddler.
Doddler said that CDS still sold more than it did on their site and that adult version siles on site also skyrocketed. Considering that making that version didn't cost them anything, its still tons of free money.
>with how much money they threw into Higurashi
Sprites cost less than 100USD per base. You have no idea what are you talking about.

>> No.12520646

>>12520644

He's translating for Sekai now. He jumped ship from MG (probably before they could fire him, I hear his parts of ImoPara were even worse than YukkuriS's).

>> No.12520648

>>12520646
know which parts? need some more lols

>> No.12520649

>>12520646
Wait, so who actually translated ImoPara in the end? Did they replace both of their work?

>> No.12520650

>>12520587>>12520612>>12520631
Dovac, pls. I know its sad that you failed at everything you tried to do, but posting nonsense at /jp/ isn't going to magically change reality.
Better go prepare comitting seppuku for failing to achieve promised to Vava sales. Write your will, write apology letters to your creditors and so on, you have tons of things to do.

>> No.12520653

>>12520648
Go away, Moogy.

>> No.12520654

>>12520648
>>12520649
I haven't played the game myself, but
>herkz: he translated the last route of imopara
>herkz: apparently extremely poorly
>Moogy: the last route of imopara was translated worse than the rest of the game, and the rest of the game got the translator fired

>> No.12520674

>>12520654
I find it hard to trust opinions on translation quality when they come from people who don't know Japanese.

>> No.12520680

>>12520654
Translation of imopara that bad? Havne't played it yet but it's ito life so need to get it.

>> No.12520692

>>12520654
herkz works for MG? Or people leaking him info? Sounds pretty unprofessional either way.

>> No.12520697

>>12520692
Some MG employees leaked Mugi and co info on MG contract with LiarSoft and some other companies back in end of 2013, and in no time it spreaded around community since Mugi then leaked it to #tlwiki.
Gossips about contract workers like this are nothing worth mentioning.

>> No.12520699

>>12520646
>translating for Sekai
So basically doing nothing.

>> No.12520702

>>12520692

What leak? It's all publicly available information. YukkuriS threw a fit on his Twitter when he was fired and then deleted it.

>>12520699

Yeah, I mean no one actually cares about WEE or Pacaplus.

>> No.12520703

>>12520699
Hey, he "translated" that alpaca kusoge, give him some credit.

>> No.12520715

Batman here. Paca Plus Translation 204% Editing 400%

>> No.12520725

>>12520703
The hate from MG is real.

>> No.12520731

>>12520725

Go to bed, Batman.

>> No.12520743

I haven't been following this drama much, but does Sekai's supposed failures effect WEE's translation at all? From briefly looking at the ordeal it's the only thing I remotely give a shit about.

>> No.12520744

>>12520703
Actually, no, it's an edited version of the original translation. It's also not a kusoge, but that's a different subject. Fuck you.

>> No.12520750

>>12520743

Well Batman took over the WEE translation, so depending on your opinion of him...

>> No.12520751

>>12520731
What's with this Batman guy and always posting irrelevant memes that are entirely contrary to the discussion at hand?

>> No.12520752

>>12520751

he wants to convince us that someone would actually bother impersonating his sorry ass to cover up his soap-operatic shenanigans

>> No.12520753

>>12520750
Well, simply judging from this thread, that's probably not a good thing. I guess this company does deserve to die, it's just a shame they have to ruin WEE along with it.

>> No.12520754

>>12520753
On the bright side, it's a Hasekura work. Someone will fix it.

>> No.12520759

>>12520753
WEE is doomed to bad translations anyway. Also, prose there is very "technical" and detailed anyway, even Tranny couldn't ruin it.

>> No.12520762

>>12520743
MG did WEE ep 1 I think so it depends if Sekai Project stole that from them too.

>> No.12520763

>>12520744
> It's also not a kusoge, but that's a different subject. Fuck you.
Oh wow, goat-fucker in /jp/. Did you finish your namaz already?

>> No.12520766
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>> No.12520770

>>12520762
> MG did WEE ep 1
No. ep1 was done by YukkuriS independent of MG. MG just negotiated permit to resell it on their site.

>> No.12520772

>>12520763
What the hell? Did you just admit to being a goat? Because if that's your reaction to a proposition of sex, that's all that could mean.

>> No.12520773

>>12520770
So it's shit.

>> No.12520777

>>12520770
Man, why didn't YukkuriS just do the rest of it himself, then? I'd take that over the current situation.

>> No.12520784

>>12520777

YukkuriS isn't employed by Sekai and Sekai has the rights to the game now.

>> No.12520785

>>12520777
Pretty sure YukkuriS is shit.

>> No.12520786

>>12520777
Because he was contracted to do ep1 by spice tails. He wasn't contracted to do rest.

>> No.12520789

>>12520784
Yes he is. He has another twitter account.

>> No.12520791

>>12520789

But dovac said he fired YukkuriS

>> No.12520797

>>12520791
dovac also said he will release 18+ Grisaia. He always says things he doesn't mean to actually do.

>> No.12520824

>>12520797
Sekai Project is nothing but trolls, can't trust any of them.

>> No.12520831

>>12520784
Because fan translations don't exist, right?

>> No.12520837

>>12520831
Because copyright and DMCA don't exist, right?

>> No.12520865

>>12520837
DMCA doesn't apply to works produced outside of the US, dumbass.

>> No.12520874

>>12520865
You should share your brilliant insight with VNDB, Google and every other company in the world: http://vndb.org/t2860

>> No.12520884

>>12520874
>http://vndb.org/t2860
You retard. Those are from American companies that held licenses.

You're just so god damn stupid.

>> No.12520888

>>12520884
>Sender Information:
>雄介 浦田
>Sent by: [Private]
>[Private]
>JP
Please explain how your rotten brain managed to interpret "JP" as "American companies".

>> No.12520895

Even if copyright and DMCA DID apply to this, when the fuck has anyone ever cared?

I'm thinking of commissioning a translation of the rest of WEE from YukkuriS. Some under the table dealings so that we don't have to worry about anything until it's done. Then I'll just whip up the patch and share it on the 'net. Wouldn't be the first time such a thing happened.

>> No.12520905

>>12520895
>when the fuck has anyone ever cared?
Uhh, always?
There are dozens of examples of projects which were successfully taken down, and zero examples of successfully resisting DMCA for any long enough period.
Even Dark Translations eventually disbanded, deleted all work and taken down their site due to legal threats.

In case of YukkuriS, he signed papers with both MG and Spicy Tails, so all his personal info is already known and it would be really easy to sue him.

>> No.12520914

>>12520905
And none of that matters when the patch is already out there on the internet.

>> No.12520918

>>12520914
It does matter. Releasing patch is a crime and obviously YukkuriS wouldn't want to risk getting behind bars for some trash picture book which doesn't even have porn.

>> No.12520925

>>12520918
Naturally nobody's actually going to find out it was him that did it. That's why the payment is all under the table. I'll probably meet him in person for this.

>> No.12520929

>>12520925

If you want to shell out money for a TL why not hire someone at least somewhat competent?

>> No.12520947

>>12520925
Posts on 4chan were already used several times as proof in criminal cases, so this very post is enough to make you both primary suspects.

>> No.12520958

>>12520929
That's not the only important factor. YukkuriS is cheap, willing, easy to access, et cetera. Personality plays a big role in making this work, too. For example, I'd never go for Moogy even if he actually had any knowledge of the language, because his ego is just off the charts. You can't put trust in someone like that. I can, however, put trust in YukkuriS. Who isn't even a bad translator, by the way.

>> No.12520964

>>12520947
Right, as if anyone is actually going to remember this exchange. Not to mention those cases were in another ballpark entirely.

>> No.12520974

>>12520958
> cheap, willing, easy to access, et cetera
Then you need guy who translated Otomaid cafe recently. He posts in VNTS threads and explicitly stated he's open for requests. He also completed several paid projects already and there were no complaints about results.

>> No.12520988

>>12520958
>YukkuriS. Who isn't even a bad translator, by the way.

Good one. You do know he was fired from MangaGamer for being so incompetent he couldn't translate a nukige passably, right?

>> No.12520989

>>12520974
Well, that depends entirely on how he compares to YukkuriS in those regards. I need to know that this man jives with my own flow. We'll see.

>> No.12520996

>>12520988
YukkuriS was fired solely because of certain people with a little too much sway in the industry. Not for his actual work.

>> No.12521007

>>12520996

Ah, yes, ImoPara was indeed an under appreciated masterwork of translation. Nothing wrong with it at all...

>> No.12521023

>>12521007
...Right, there wasn't anything wrong with it.

>> No.12521035

>>12521023

I take it you too have a habit of having thin pubic hairs?

>> No.12521046

>>12521035
Judging a translation of Japanese without knowing the context, that sure is a wise move.

>> No.12521053

>>12520989
I looked into Level 1 Translator's work, and that reminded me that time is also a factor. So it also depends on which one is open first and which one can accomplish things faster. Looks like it'll be a while before I find out the answer to that one.

>> No.12521375

>>12520974
No complaints doesn't mean people actually read his shit.

>> No.12521381

Did YukkuriS really get shitcanned for his quality? I thought it was just because he was a lazy fucker who couldn't keep mangagamer's deadlines. I mean, I know don moogster shit on him, but he translated a bunch of (short) shit for mangagamer before and they didn't seem to care.

>> No.12521383

>>12520895
YukkuriS is co-founder of Sekai project, there's little reason for him to turn his back on them... Also, seeing how the rest of WEE is already being done by Sekai after their kickstarter, the whole statement makes little sense.

>> No.12521401

>>12521383

Are you that guy who thinks yukkuris is shini?

>> No.12521410

>>12521381

He really did.

>> No.12521431

>>12521401
Not guy, but it's already known that they are the same person.

>> No.12521437

>>12521431

You say that every thread but there's never any proof. There's also a pretty good chunk of shit that goes against it like, for example, kouryuu's rapport with shini which would be a bit odd if shini was a guy he fired, claims from the tlwiki mobsters that shini is an old hendane guy, and the fact that shini's twitter is older than the yukkuris drama in the first place.

>> No.12521471

>>12521410
No, he didn't. Stop posting shit that's not true just because you're dumb enough to believe it.

>> No.12521480

>>12521437
Batman is Tranten, right?

>> No.12521492

>>12521480
That one we know is true. His twitter profile even states as such (Batmanと名乗る翻訳者.), and he has been giving status updates on Paca Plus.

>> No.12521530

>>12521492
Looked at his twitter, he's probably going to be at AWA. He retweeted herkz's tlwiki log. Smells like a troll

>> No.12521556

>>12521480
I still want to see his translations. Everyone is saying he's shit but I haven't seen any examples. We at least have proof for Moogy and YukkuriS being shit.

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B-but contractual drm!

Wonder how doddler pulled that off

>> No.12522720

>>12521471

Don't you have work to do Yukkuri?

>> No.12522734

>>12521776
cant wait to read cartagra, is is a bit less.... guro and waifu killing though then kara... that would be nice. kara got me having nightmares. but holy shit did it have milfs and the best one had a amazing voice. kara 2 has milfs everywhere too but whats cartagra like?

>> No.12522739

>>12520766
I hope that's not an actual screenshot of the TL, cause it's embarrassing.

>> No.12522745

>>12522734
I think I read somewhere that some stuff is even worse than KnS bad ends.

>> No.12522751

>>12522745
But KnS has no good ends, where as you can actually get a satisfactory ending in Cartagra.

>> No.12522771

Dovacpls
https://twitter.com/dobacco/status/515271187224469505

>> No.12522785 [DELETED] 

>>12522745
Holy shit then will i be getting sick? I swear the only time i ever got actually throw up sick in a vn was kara no shojo and when my waifu marimo got her head bitten off in muvluv... I put up with kara because the milf where amazing and didn't actually die and the story was good, I never actually got around too doing every end or even the true end i think.. I played most of it though, im too sacred that i will get sick again re-reading it or fully completing it. Did kara no shojo 2 have any milf ends or a nicer ending to it all? does it finish the story?

>> No.12522803

>>12522771
Wow. That's... an interesting thing for a CEO to be saying on Twitter.

>> No.12522807

>>12522771
DELETE THIS

>> No.12522827

>>12522771
Someone link this to Tumblr SJWs while I go make popcorn.

>> No.12522939

>>12522771
>>12522803
>>12522807

To be fair, he's being sarcastic about how he perceives /jp/ to perceive him.

Still, it's pretty dangerously possible for someone not involved in the scene to mistake that.

>> No.12523017

Wow. I was coming here to say damn, Pyrite Heart looked pretty good but then I noticed it was Sekai Project so I'm gonna have to pirate it. And then I find out it was actually free in the first place? Fuck this guy. I love that VNs are so easy to pirate.

>> No.12523026

>>12522734
Also fuck this guy while I'm here, I wish dovac and milf autist would have an epic battle where both of them strike the fatal blow simultaneously.

>> No.12523093

Guys, this whole time I've been joking about moogy being my waifu, etc, but I actually had a dream about him last night. I don't know what's happening to my life

>> No.12523104

>>12520169
More like he found a real job

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Silly dovac, everyone knows games journalism is a scam.

>> No.12523175

>>12520964
SCREENSHOT!!!

>> No.12523205

>>12523174
LOL, that retard thinks we will do his PR job for him for free?

>> No.12523214

>>12523174

It's funny that he thinks he's some martyr that /jp/ collectively attempts to destroy when all that's happening is /jp/ constantly going "hey guys look at this retarded shit dovac said", and then a circlejerk of "yep, that's retarded" "I hope he chokes to death" "dovac is going to end up poor and a hobo and here's four paragraphs why". As if /jp/ had any effect on anything.

>> No.12523218

>>12523214

I think the world would be in serious trouble if /jp/ had an appreciable effect on anything.

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>>12522771
Looks like he came to his senses and deleted it. Here it is for those who missed it.

>> No.12523405

>>12523174
Oh look, he's typing properly now that he wants to be all serious. I fucking hate people who switch the way they type based on the situation. Just type well all the time, you complete ass.

>> No.12523415

>>12523104
That's an excuse people who get fired for incompetence tend to make, yes.

>> No.12523698

>>12522827
Haha, I bet your popcorn is all cold now. Owned.

>> No.12523798

>>12523252
Pyrite Heart is from the same faggots that made Sakura Spirit. Indeed, it used to be a free VN.

>> No.12523810

>>12523698
Joke's on you. I ate the popcorn anyway!

>> No.12523912

>>12513805
I saw the picture used for the other thread, the one with Yuka and Gore. So, I ctrl+f the threads and find this.

I'm just happy to see my favorite game being translated. It's great. It really deserves a translation.

>> No.12523931

>>12523912
Too bad it's literally a machine translation.
http://cryingtranslation.wordpress.com/about/

>> No.12523937

>>12523931
What the fuck. Why would anyone do that.

I guess it's true then. It will never be translated. I was really excited there for a moment.

>> No.12524188

>>12523931
>>12523937
Thing is, Google Translate is the only reasonable way to translate how Gore speaks. If there's any game where it fits, it's this one.

>> No.12524225

>>12523798
Huh. If they're capable of something like that too, faggot isn't a good word to describe them. If anything, that's increased my respect for them. Selling something that used to be free, not so much, but that's gotta be dovac's fault.

>> No.12524388

>>12524225
The PH game came first so actually the quality is decreasing. The art is the same since the artist is the same. It's only the art that attracts people towards those VNs anyway.

>> No.12524699

>>12524388
Really? Didn't recognize it as his style. Guess it's like the Hirai effect.

>> No.12524790

>>12524699
I don't think the artist and the writer are the same.

>> No.12525061

>>12524790
The artist is what I meant.

>> No.12525081

seems like mangagamer is gonna release Cartagra...cross platform (PC,Mac,linux)

>> No.12525172 [DELETED] 

>>12524225
>something that used to be free
>SP: This version was "polished up with editing and making it Steam ready", this includes adding Steam cards once approved.
In summary: they removed the free version, removed the voices, put it on Steam and charged 5€/$ for the "polished edition". What a bunch of thieves.

>> No.12525188

>something that used to be free
>SP: This version was "polished up with editing and making it Steam ready", this includes adding Steam cards once approved.
In summary: they removed the free version, put it on Steam and charged 5€/$ for the "polished edition". What a bunch of thieves.

>> No.12525203

>>12525188

I'm guessing "polished up with editing" is SP-speak for "ran spell check real quick" if anything.

>> No.12525400

I'm still in disbelief that Sekai Project actually went so far as to cause a free VN to no longer be free. Doesn't matter if it's just 5 dollars, it's the principle of the thing. Not that I wasn't convinced before, but that company seriously deserves all the shit it gets. I am really looking forward to seeing them fail.

>> No.12525410

>>12525081
Hoping they can get an all ages version on Steam.

>> No.12525412

>>12525400
> looking forward to seeing them fail
Unfortunately their model is fail-proof since they don't invest own money in anything and mostly release cost-free stuff.

>> No.12525431

Cartagra preorders are up.
http://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?product_code=116
If someone going to preorder it, please post your order numbers for SCIENCE.

>> No.12525437

>>12525431
Got order number 1, looking good so far.

>> No.12525909

Azayaka na sekinin houki da be.

That's what it sounded like. What is the translation of this?

>> No.12526128

>>12525909
>Azayaka na sekinin houki da be.

Something like "This is seriously irresponsible"

>> No.12526135

>>12526128
Same Anon.
It's "Azayakana sekinin hokida be" by the way

>> No.12526950

>>12525400
To be fair lots of indie devs do the same thing with their games. Because of the combined booms of indie games and steam you see every piece of shit that would've been a free flash webgame years ago being put up on steam for $5-10.

>> No.12527679

>>12526128
>>12526135
I see. A good way to describe what's going on lately, indeed.

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