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Just finished playing Saikoroshi-hen. Yes, the translation was a bit rubbish, but still serviceable, and the story was excellent. It feels like an important transitioning story between Higurashi and Umineko.

>still no upload

Did they add in new tracks for the old arcs, too? Because the crappy MIDI ones for the question arcs made the game feel really held back. It's also bad with the Kai arcs, which only have a handful of songs used in each one, especially Meakashi.

>>12461028
>It's also bad with the Kai arcs
In my opinion only Solitude in Meakashi was annoying. The rest was good.
Based Dai.

>>12460874

Don't really play VN's, but I have heard many good things about Higurashi. Is the anime or the manga up to snuff?

>>12461118
Don't even thi,k about the Anime.

On the other hand, the manga is pretty good, if not almost as good as the VN, if not better for some parts (the 4th arc was more enjoyable and well done in manga to me, the fact that Ryukishi supervise them helps a lot I guess).

Are all this piracy faggots too lazy or what? >.<

>>12461028
I haven't gone through the whole thing, but in the music folder for the 2nd disc, there's a version of Fascism. And I could swear it sounds like the levels have been altered to lessen the "clipping" problem. It sounds like the treble has been lowered and bass upped. Though, that could just be my imagination.

>>12461056

>Solitude

That song would normally be great if it hadn't been literally the only track used after Shion killed Rika. I was ready to mute the computer by that point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z0wyugIHW8

>>12460884
I don't like Sai because that's where the antifantasy theories for Higurashi come from. Rika deserves her happy ending.

>>12461146

Saikoroshi is really just a side chapter for Rika

Any "it was all a dream/purgatory/coma/dead all along" theory should be immediately discarded unless there's EXTREMELY HEAVY implications that it is. It's also why Umineko's ending got so much hatred.

>>12461122

Thanks! Don't really have time for VN's (though I'd like to), but reading is the easiest way to access stories.

I'll abandon this thread before anything more is said.

>>12460874
can i still buy a copy of this?

Not really higgy but I dont see a general thread to ask about this and google is useless.

Are the bgm tracks in higanbana supposed to have this weird static/clipping noise? At first they play fine, but if the scene goes on for too long I start getting weird audio artifacts, I'm not really sure if it's intentional or not. It's especially apparent with the piano tracks.

>>12461325
It's available on Amazon.jp, so should be findable.

The audio problems in Higanbana come from bad pirated versions, happened to me. I found a version from a different source and tried it out and it worked.

>>12461525
ahh, alright. I was using the doujinstyle ddl but I'll grab a different version.

>>12461522
thanks i'll see what I can do, hobby link and ami ami are sold out and i'm not buying from play asia.

>>12461664
It doesn't seems to be on Play Asia anyway, checked before.

Any information on the new lolies?

>>12461688
Not really besides the fact the little girl may be a bitch in the end, she was laughing along with Takanazi.

>>12461727
That bitch better not destroy Rika's happiness or I swear to fucking god I'll fly to japan and bitch slap Ryukishi.

That fucking girl deserved her happy end, stop fucking tormenting her. Fate was defeated, let her be happy.

>>12461872
But then he couldn't milk what little is left of the franchise. Anyway, is there any chance for future anime adaptions or is that all dead in the water. I'd really like another anime like outbreak except done right.

>>12461727
Just because she has Higanbana facial expressions doesn't mean she's evil.

>>12462529
The problem is the person along her. It just can't be a gag moment if she even wears he SS suit.

>>12462546

Takano is simply a very fun person to be around. She'll be sure to make you crack a smile!

>>12462696
Maybe, but why would Tokyo be collaborating with a little girl?

Also, that image might not be trustworthy. I'm sure we've all been trolled by fake screencaps before. The small dimensions and low quality bother me.

>>12462356
Unlikely.
Ryukishi wrote a part 2 of Outbreak.
This was likely for DEEN to make another anime.

I'd prefer having any offhand manga side story animated.
Imagine having a bunch of OVA about wacky manga side story shenanigans but animated.
I'd personally love to see Chie going on a date or K1 randomly turning alpha and swooning every single girl without any effort.

>>12462529
Name a single one, except Higanbana, but evil she was an evil fuck, who has that ''I'm going to fucking rape you until you fucking love it'' face that isn't evil or on the evil side.

If that loli was innocent, she wouldn't make that face.

>>12462962
True, I can't think of any in Higanbana. Still, there is Maria and her creepy\autism portrait. Also, Lambda had scary faces but wasn't totally evil in end. Dlanor was terrifying and was an agent of heaven. Virgilia was mostly good despite when she opened her eyes.

Also, maybe she is taunting Takano, or the narrator has gone H5, or she is about to go into god mode like Hanyuu, or she is like Rena and just completely flips the fuck out some times.

>>12463036
Maria is innocent except when she's creepy. She's still evil since she's related to Beatrice and gets lessons from her.
And she doesn't have that open mouth HARRR IMMA RAPE YOU. That's the sign of a true villian.

Lambda is an evil bitch, she just likes to be generous at time. Unlike Bernkastel who has to fuck around people just to even have a reason to exist, Lambda just creates elaborte bullshit and laughs at people suffering on a grand scale. Bernkastel just loves destroying things immediately because she doesn't know when things will immediately vanish.

As for Rena, she just has that USODA face which is more angry than a rape face.

It's either a constipated face or a ''hahaha I tricked you'' face or a ''HAHAHA I'M GOING TO FUCKING FUCK YOU IN THE EYESOCKET MOTHERFUCKER''.

Okonogi has it, Erika has it, Beatrice has it, Bernkastel and Lambda have it, Virgillia has it, Kyrie has it (though only in ep 7 because she never showed any signs of being evil anywhere else), that sister of Kyrie has it, Dlanor has it (though it can be argued that she's not evil, she's still on the evil side when with Erika and never does it again when not on Erika's side), Takano has it. Nearly everyone bad in Higanbana has it, though they're excluded since a decent number are good ghost (?).

The more I list, the more of those rape faces reapear.
I dunno, the more I think about it, the more it just seems like two faggots who love evil chuckling that they've won something and laughing they asses off.

>>12461559
You can buy a legal download of it from MangaGamer: http://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?product_code=98

>>12462962
>Name a single one, except Higanbana, but evil she was an evil fuck, who has that ''I'm going to fucking rape you until you fucking love it'' face that isn't evil or on the evil side.

What about Sakaki?

Also, I know Kyou and possibly Renoir had a face like that.

>>12462962
>Chie going on a date or K1 randomly turning alpha and swooning every single girl without any effort.
that sounds terrible and I am angry at you for wanting that.

>>12463036
>Dlanor was terrifying
Not really. She's just a kid after all.

>>12462962

I wish Natsumi's arcs would get animated. The Furude and Sonozaki families get explored to hell and back, but the poor Kimiyoshi family has gotten nothing.

>>12461146
Antifantasy like Hanyuu being a hivemind of the microbes?

>>12463366

I don't see why the mystery and the paranormal can't co-exist within Higurashi. No supernatural powers show up unless it's Hanyuu talking to Rika or the time loops in general. It's a small, self-contained element that rarely interacts with the story and characters in each world.

>>12463247
>that sounds terrible and I am angry at you for wanting that.
Uh, it already happened. Like, already drawn and everything.
Lemme see if I can find it.

>>12463167
She has more of a ''shut the fuck up you fuckers'' rather than a rape face.

Again, this is mostly excluding Higanbana since some characters, namely Higanbana herself, are evil fucks but are still decent.

Like that 13 step guy.
He still tortures faggots for all eternity but he still has standards so he's not fully evil.

I don't remember Kyou doing that.
And wasn't Renoir Higanbana, so it's not really ''him''.

>>12463372
Except for the fuckin' third footstep which has everyone freaked out and fuels their murderous paranoia.

>>12463388

Well shit, I can't believe I forgot about that.

Still, Higurashi is easily a story where supernatural and reality co-exist. People who try to do a full-on Umineko analysis of it are idiots.

>>12463390
It's going to be even more insane.

If my theory is right, we're going to see a merging of the meta and the physical world using Hanyuu's race as a lesion between the two.

Hanyuu's race evolved to the point where they are immortal, can do magic (it's said in a legend the first time Oiishi tells K1 about the Onifafugi that wizards healed the sick) and can go into the meta.
However, they aren't able to fully manipulate events and full Kakera themselves, only travel between them or add certain elements at best.

Lambda and Bernkastel can travel through Kakera and can manipulate entire events without any trouble.

So you can image that Hanyuu is a bridge between the physical and meta.
Rika -- Hanyuu -- Featherine/Bernkastel

Not only that but considering the events of the next WtC are going to take place in space, I'd wager that Hanyuu's clan is so advanced scientifically that they can do ''magic'' and reached the meta via artificial terms rather than however the fuck Rika's memories formed into Bernkastel.

Also to note that a lot of Furude storage items have a lot of weird supernatural items like that talisman that made Rena love whomever held the other piece (forced collective breeding by enducing love?) or that other talisman that made K1 into a charming person.

Among other supernatural items I can't remember.

Don't forget.

''any sufficient advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic''.
Hanyuu is beyond that point. We just don't know how.

Some people has got Hou on Animesuki, but don't want to upload it on the net because muh dat's illegal, damn.

There releasing Season 1&2 on Blu-Ray at the end of this year, I can't wait. They put up 2 ad's for it on youtube a few days ago.

>>12463429
Not a World Trade Center 5, you idiot.

It's probably Space Guns Years again.

>>12464418

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaWNKB_ZDBA

I honestly hope they fix the QUALITY for it. On one hand, Higurashi is one of their biggest cash cows, but on the other, it's still DEEN.

Also, here's the box art. 1/2.

>>12464572

And here's 2/2 along with the 15 second version of the BD trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md_vqjG2Qio

>>12464572
>>12464573
>36.500 yen
Fuck.

>>12464568
Duuuude, do you even know how big space even is? How much he can work on in this scope?

Just image the implications here.
Mystery IN SPACE. Detective stories in fucking space.
With military and conspiracy shenanigans and all that he loves to add in his When They Cry.
With Ryukishi going all out on whatever he thinks will be the future of the human race based on his collection of his research concerning history. And you know how historically accurate he tries to be.

Not to mention that he seemed to have done cultural research on how culture evolves over time in Rose Guns Days. In an interview after Ryukishi finished Umineko, he said that he was tired of the whole WtC and wanted to take a break.
He said he didn't know what animal to take and laughed at that.
He also said that if he were ever to do another WtC, it would be something across timeline, generations and location. A curse that spans over a limited area since readers and fans noticed that his stories took place in confined area.

And coupled with the fact that Ryukishi really has only done minor work over the years.
As well as Dai and co not really doing much after Umineko.
Higanbana had a decent amount of music, not as high or great as Umineko, and Rose Gun Days has its good share but a good portion is recycled left over music from Umineko.
And speaking of music, can you image sci-fi techno themed music? It's perfect, just like Umineko was Halloween themed.

So you got his music crew not doing much work for 3-4 years. What do you think they've been doing all that time?
And Ryukishi, doing small projects, could have been working on the side for his next WtC project while also working on Rose Gun Days and Higanbana. Not to mention that he had artists do most of the drawing work in RGD. All this saving up.

And even more, Higurashi Hou is basically just 3 side stories with all of Higurashi bundled into one.
Basically Ryukishi skipping this year. Maybe to work on his next big thing?

>>12464594
>sci-fi techno themed music?
This was the first thing I thought of when I heard about WTC in space and I was like "Oh boy here we go." We really didn't get much music and there are so many possible music ways in space. I'm really looking forward to the music.

>>12464568
>>12464594
Not only that but Ryukishi is likely going to give more detail on Hanyuu and her clan.

We know from Rika that Hanyuu and her clan ''came to Hinamizawa'' by some weird means which even Rika couldn't explain (likely the sea of kakera or dimensions or whatever).
The clan came to Earth to escape something and just wanted a home when the villagers got paranoid and shit happened with Hanyuu.

That 2hu character and Hanyuu are likely pissed at each other because of this event.
We're going to hear small info about where they came from which will likely be the M37 cluster.
This will be where the three space colonies are established. Also, if you check wikipedia, you'll notice three ideal place to build an outpost in that sector.

Basically, imagine Higurashi with Oyashiro-sama but with ''an ancient race'' being the leftover remnants at that place being what is keeping an eye on the outpost.
And with the two opposing factions being similar to Tokyo.

In an interview, Ryukishi said that he was never going to do something like Umineko again.
People thought that meant that he would never do another WtC but that's wrong. Umineko was all about meta. I think his next work is going to be all about ''mesa''
Check this for more details www.gwiztraining.com/Whats%20the%20opposite%20of%20meta.pdf
This fits perfectly well with how sci-fi goes into more details.

Ryukishi loves to add interesting concepts like he did concerning Empicism in Umineko.

Also

PS2 -> Higurashi
PS3 -> Umineko
PS4 -> Space WtC

It is inevitable. Everything points towards a new WtC.

>>12464599
Not only techno, you can also have the ''in space no one can hear you scream'' of complete silence or machinery running in the background.
What I'm more interested is his background photoshop.
We don't have space stations, so what pictures is he going to take? Is he finally going to go CG?

>>12464619
Also this image makes me giggle if he actually adds that somewhere.

Also, the Sonozaki have land on the moon.
They actually own propriety on the damn moon.
If they actually survive, they'll have a major foothold in the space age boom.
Not to mention they are know for being great at landownership and real estate.

Can't wait to see Sonozaki inc in space managed by a old style Japanese custom.
And who knows, maybe they'll actually be the bad guys in the whole thing.

>>12464594
>Maybe to work on his next big thing?
Maybe he's being a lazy faggot.

>>12464642
Doubt it.
Ryukishi love to peach about being dedicated in your work, working hard, endlessly studying and being diligent.

You know, him saying he connects the most with K1, saying that's how he wants to be the most. I personally see it as Ryukishi working himself to the bone and just going ''ahhhh I just wanna have fun like a kid'' just like Keiichi does.

Not only that but he thinks that ''if you want to teach someone, you have to make sure you know three times more than they do'' mentality from Higurashi seems to be his general outline before doing stories and dumming it down for everyone.

Not only that but he only has half a year to write this shit and he says he has to plan/write nearly a year in advance before writing anything. People making eroge/VNs are always on a tight schedule. I'm sure everything's been planned out.

>>12464648
loves to preach* about...

I still somewhat wonder if the story related to K1 going to cram school is what happened to Ryukishi.

>>12464648

>R07 wants to be like Keiichi the most

That's actually kinda cute.

>>12464665
He said in an interview that the characters he most relates to is Keiichi and Beatrice.
But then the guy doing the interview starting asking questions about which Beatrice and he just shut up about it.

It really makes perfect sense.
He just wants to have fun, giggle around like a child, but he's also extremely cruel.
Especially considering all this tragedy he imagines and tortures his characters to no end.
It's pretty cute and fun. Whenever there's a happy fun time schoolboy antics, I always try to picture Keiichi writing the story while laughing.

I've just pick up watanagashi manga and there's one thing I don't understand yet, why Shion asked Keiichi if he entered the shrine "disguised" as Mion just to call him at night to ask him if Mion asked him about it. I'm going nuts

>>12464706
What are you talking about?

>It was Mion pretending to be Shion pretending to be Mion pretending to be Shion
WHAT A TWIST!

>>12464670

>R07 also relates to Beato

I seriously wonder if he's gay sometimes. Or at least bisexual.

>>12464726
Dunno but his whole ''I understand how women think'' and him endlessly bragging how he figured out how to write women, as well asFeatherine being his author avatar is a bit fucked up overall. He knows how to think like a woman, at least.

And yet, he fully understands fetishes as a male.
I don't know how he does it.

The girls in his work feel and sound like women and the guys feel like men and there's a clear subtle separation between both sexes.
And yet he's a complete and utter feminist.

Rose Gun Days is basically him going insane on feminism.
As, I'm talking about the accurate definition of feminism, namely the equality between men and woman, not repressing guys type of feminism.

>>12464738

>endlessly bragging how he figured out how to write women

Link?

>>12460874
Why was the anime done so badly? They removed about 20-30% of what was in the VN and displayed the rest quite poorly.

>>12464771
Because DEEN.

>"MY" Higurashi

IT KEEPS HAPPENING

>>12464801
I'm the one who wrote twice to that ''TheBiggestHigurashi'' faggot and goes all WAAAHHH I'M A VICTIM, THIS REQUIRES CENSORSHIP!!! And then he says ''fuck that, if you want to talk to me, stop being anon, and I do after creating an account and he goes into more melodrama.

Like, holy fucking shit.
And he has the balls to ask ''well why don't we have a discussion about why Ryukishi even put Satoko into his work and is wrong since it adds nothing''.

EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT IT SHOCKS THE FUCKING AUDIENCE BY SHOWING SATOKO NAKED.
I swear to fucking god Tumblr is impossibly unreasonable.
How the fuck can you say you love something DEDICATE YOUR ENTIRE BLOG TOWARDS SOMETHING and then fucking boycott it?
It boggles my fucking mind.

>>12464774
The thing I dislike the most is the making of Rika and Satoko into moe characters, also the weird facial expressions and poor animation.

>>12464817
But they are moe characters.
They've always been moe.

>>12464817

The facial expressions are one of the few good things with the anime.

>>12464812

So, they hate R07 too?

>>12464801

>we would rather have a ryukishi07 approved group

Do they think mangagamer just stole the game or something? THEY WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN THE RIGHTS TO THE GAME IF HE DIDN'T APPROVE OF THEM.

>>12464831
Yeah.

They're all up on how there's many plot holes and shit and how Ryukishi is a shit writer.
They're fully bipolar to a stupid degree.

>>12464840
Yeah like many people on 4chan are any different when it comes to that opinion

>>12464842

True, but 4chan isn't an echo chamber like tumblr. You'll get called a faggot at worst if you have an unpopular opinion here, over there, they'll try to doxx you and drive you off the site.

>>12464631
No, Krauss owns land on the moon. Those Sonozakis own nothing.

>>12464822
Not really, they were more cute, not full force moe.

>>12464827
I thought they were too..how you say, overdramatic. Like the face Mion does when she's about to kill K1 in Ep 8 was laughable at best.

>>12464901
Um no, all that nipah shit is indisputably moe territory.

>>12464925
Although it's moe in nature her character isn't, she and Satoko could defend themselves and were displayed as resilient characters. In the anime however they seemed like they were kawaii uguu dolls #246257.

>>12464882
Ushiromiya vs. Sonozaki in space when?

>>12464995
Both are completely dead, and there is no possible way that any of them went to Heaven, so never. Unless Hell has a space program, that is.

>>12465087

The Sonozaki family is still perfectly fine.

>>12464712
IIRC just after Shion kidnaps Mion and kills her grandmother, the first time she goes to school as "Mion". She asks Keiichi if he got into oyashiro-sama shrine and if he saw takano, tomitake and shion.
Why does she did that? Just to make Keiichi thinks her sister was the culprit?

>>12465244
Generally more stragglers than the Kimiyoshi, but usually it's only their head families and the Furude that are fucked to hell, with the Furude clan stuck in a bad state unless Rika starts popping out brats like nowhere.

>>12465281
She tells you why in Meakashi. Take a peek if you don't care but you should.
It's a small part of her plan to lure out the executioner of the curse. Keiichi is the bait, but she can't have him slip out of her fingers because he fucks around so he has to be on alert. Really, reread Meakashi.
>>12465087
Mion is pure. And Shion only fucks up in certain instances.

>>12465351
Shion is the pure one. Mion turns into a psychotic bitch when Satoshi gets locked up.

>>12465087
Ushiromiya still exists as a corporation tho. Just not as a family

>>12465375
They do?

>>12465379
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Okonogi takes over it. Little is known after that but I'm pretty sure it didn't disappear since Ange still gets some pocket money from it.

>>12465351
I truly need to reread Meakashi.
>Mion is pure. And Shion only fucks up in certain instances.
She is pure. btw you have more Mion?

>>12465087
The Sonozaki family range in the thousands, around a thousand or two in number iirc, so they're pretty big. And if they increase their power, they'll be everywhere.

>>12464882
Both the Sonozaki and Krauss were ''scammed'' into buying land on the moon.
They both have land, however, Krauss' family is kinda dead and the fortune, left to Ange, was given to donation. All that remains is the Sonozaki who have land on the moon.


>>12465281
OOOOOHH, that.

She's pretty straightforward about it.
She wanted to make sure he was telling the truth.

Seriously, that's just it.
It's a red herring.

>>12465332
Give it a few generations, the Furude familly will be reborn.

>>12465375
Not really, Eva gives her entire fortune to Ange.
Ange gives it away after she goes into hiding and gives up her name.

>>12464573
>>36.500 yen
Fuck it, with this amount of money I could buy the limited editons of Matsuri and of the 4 Kizuna games, Kakera Asobi, Pachinko Slot, Daybreak and Daybreak MEGA editon in limited too, Jan, Matsuri's databook and some artbooks, and maybe some mangas volumes too.

How can someone be stupid enough to buy this shit ?

>>12465408
She gives her fortune to Okonogi right? Or am I remembering incorrectly

>>12465414
Yeah, in the magic ending.

Or she goes full Erika and rekt Amakuza in the trick one.

>>12465409
>>12464572
>>12464573
>conversion is ~400 bucks
Jesus fuck
I hope someone uploads it so I can take better screenshots of Rika.

The original anime is pretty shitty looking up until Rei.

>>12465414
I don't think she does.
If she did, the family wouldn't be hunting her down. I'd have to check but I don't have Umineko installed.

>>12464572
>>12464573
Stupid question, how much money did DEEN make out of Higurashi?
I know it must be decent since they keep making anime of it.

>>12465421
>>12465417
Yeah, she gives it to Okonogi in the magic ending and goes into hiding. Which means that Okonogi gets to be CEO or whatever of the Ushiromiya corp.

Now in the trick ending she just doesn't care so I'm not sure what would happen to Ushiromiya corp. Probably taken by the Sumadera.

>>12465436
I see.

So Okonogi vs the Sonozaki family.

Hmmm, dunno what to think about this.

>>12465465
In a bonus of the volume 1 of EP4 in manga, Okonogi proposed Ange to go in vacations at Hinamizawa.

>>12465465
Well, Okonogi should be dead by the time WTC5 happens. But Ushiromiya corp could still theoretically be there, assuming that R07 wanted to include it.

>>12465469
So that means that Rika surviving is part of the True End.
And we can assume that Ange giving her fortune to Okonogi is also the True End for Umineko.

Okonogi wouldn't be able to invite Ange to Hinamizawa if the whole place is quarantined.
Unless he has enough money to go there and not be disturbed because no one is there? But that's stupid.

>>12465477
I'm sure he does.
He wouldn't have included the Sonozaki owning a part of the moon if he didn't.

It would be hilarious if Okonogi gets to be a cyborg or some bullshit and survives up to the events of WtC 5.

It's like he's in *every* WtC just for the kicks of it.

>>12465482
Well, let's add that at the same time Okonogi was also disguised as Battler when making this proposition, Ange then killed him for joking about that.

>>12465486
or better, he's gonna be the Bishop of WTC and make a ton of cyborgs who looks like him.

>>12464594
>He also said that if he were ever to do another WtC, it would be something across timeline, generations and location. A curse that spans over a limited area since readers and fans noticed that his stories took place in confined area.

I was quite pessimistic about the chances of it being the next WTC, but...shit, you're right. He did say that and it matches up perfectly with the blurb for it:

>And now a story from the future. Three worlds will create a spiral. Beyond it...is who~o...

>The first world is a world far in the future. The "Earth Eastern Alliance" advances into space. Leaving the solar system, they widened their territory through the galaxy.

>Now, in space, were you able to see the small fireworks? Those small fireworks were the total sum of both camps' 200 quadrillion UA $ space fleets being annihilated in both civilizations' first battle in space.

>Both fleets, having taken too much damage in the battle, have evaded further combat. The war became that which was thought to be a relic of the pre-space age: a land war in the bog of each colonized planet.

>>12465729

Is he planning on doing a Leiji Matsumoto-like space opera story this time? Because that would be awesome.

>>12464801
the loopiest part about the 1st post is where he mentions "online download sites where you can pay your money directly to 07th Expansion without giving MangaGamer a dime." I'm assuming he's talking about HobiBox or something. And come on, like MangaGamer supports pedophilia but a Japanese eroge company like HobiBox DOESN'T?

>>12464801
Anyway, there is a crazy difference between real pedophilly and anime lolis. The style itself is way more sexy/arousing than a realistic drawing. I don't have any problem with loli hentai, but on the other hand pedopornography is just disgusting. It should be time for those guys to understand this fact.

>>12465776
>>12465826
Please, kill yourself.

>>12466203
Why should he?

>>12466203

Hi, tumblr. How was your day?

Still going around saying that fanservice of fictional characters is on the same level as real child pornography? I'm sure all the victims of pedophilia and child rape would love to hear you say that a drawing does the same level of damage as what happened to them.

>>12466203
Rude.

>>12465401
When was it stated that the Sononazi's bought moon land?

Takano is the true Endless Witch and Golden Witch. Her insane rambling stories got leaked by the police and the everyone got hooked on them. She also used the $100M she got from Konataizumi to make Hinamizawa a catbox.

This means that Takano is not only the best girl and best Higurashi, but the best Umineko and True Main Character of all of When They Cry.

>>12466393
Beginning of ep 5.
When Krauss is telling Natsuhi about the scam after he proposes to keep the death of Kinzo silent.

I don't have Umineko installed so have a page of the manga.

Anyone here like CP?

>>12466414
That would be funny since if you take the whole WTC as one story it wouldn't break the Knox rules of the clues being presented.

I have a question about this attached chart.

I forget where I found it.

Running the title 沢越本家・桂家 though google translate gave me "SawaEtsu Bonga-Katsuraie" so I'm not sure what it means.

Based on the faces I can recognize though...

It appears to be drawing connections between Higurashi, Nanoha StrikerS, School Days and I think Hayate no Gotoku.

Is anyone able to read Japanese and interpret what this chart is saying about the connection? Are characters related? Do they share voice actors?

Is it bad that I prefer to see each WtC as it's own self-contained story? I don't want Rika's struggles being just stories written by R07's self-insert that actually mean nothing in the end.

>>12466702
I read somewhere that Takano's black dress design is a reference to a detective VN.
It's implied that the mother of Takano was the heroine of said VN.

No clue of the name though.
Hopefully it'll help somehow.
It's the only connection I know

>>12466414
Did the detective (Oiishi) ever see Takano and Tomitake together? No, he just fucked off and gambled all the time and stayed up Oryo's ass.

Being the true leader of Institute, it would be a smart move if she could also be the auditor. Tokyo didn't notice a large mobilization of force and the continued manufacture of biological weapons for a whole year, so they are obviously pretty easily fooled. Okonogi killed the real Takano as Tomitake and had to use the barrel disguise to make Miyo herself die.

The real tragedy is that Miyoko died without ever being understood.

>>12466702
It's a sex chart.

>>12466749
>Takano's black dress design is a reference to a detective VN
>the mother of Takano was the heroine of said VN

Since Miyo Takano's birth name prior to adoption by the professor was actually Miyoko Tanashi, do you think that means her detective mother also has the surname Tanashi?

Or at least, perhaps a male romantic interest in said VN?

Apparently her parents died in a train accident, maybe this detective VN involved trains?

>>12466773
>do you think that means her detective mother also has the surname Tanashi
I think so. Though take my word with a grain of salt since this is something I've heard of years ago.

I remember someone on /jp/ posting an image of a VN where the character wore the identical black suit Takano wears.
I also tried looking at the archives but couldn't find anything.
Not sure if it has anything to do with trains to be honest, only the mother and Takano's black suit are the only relations I know of related outside of Higurashi.

>>12466769
If you want to go full Umineko, Akasaka wrote Higurashi.

>>12466785
K1's mom: http://whentheycry.wikia.com/wiki/Maebara_Aiko is apparently a fan of detective novels...

Since Higurashi was 07th Expansion's first game in 2002, I wonder if perhaps one of the people who worked for the company made this detective mom in work with a previous company?

>>12466799
The mom just loved reading detective novels, I don't remember it having to do with anything.
It's mostly a relation of how much Ryukishi himself loves to read Detective Novels using K1's mother as a mouthpiece.

Also, that detective VN related to Takano is pretty old iirc. Either in the 80s or 90s. Can't remember. I know it exist but meh.

>>12466749

If anything, Takano in her black dress makes her look like Maetel from Galaxy Express 999.

>>12466807
>that detective VN related to Takano is pretty old iirc. Either in the 80s or 90s

Any of these jump out?

http://vndb.org/r?q=;fil=date_before-20000101;o=a;s=released

>>12466818

fuck that, here's a shorter list:

http://vndb.org/g323?fil=tagspoil-1.tag_inc-323;m=1;o=a;s=rel

so long as it's in the VNDB and tagged with 'detective work' it should be on this page I think

>>12466818
If I remember correctly, it might be this one.
The image seems familiar.

vndb.org/v4511

Though this is just by memory and I have never read this before so I have no idea.

>>12466834
Wow, this is either a coincidence or I'm drinking too much.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Portopia_Serial_Murder_Case#Setting_and_characters

>The detective in charge of the case is an unnamed, unseen, and silent protagonist who essentially embodies the player. He works with an assistant named Yasuhiko Mano (間野康彦?), nicknamed Yasu (ヤス?), who is the one who actually speaks and executes most of the player's commands
>nicknamed Yasu
>Yasu

>>12466862
I made character entries if people have more info to add: http://vndb.org/v4511/chars

The only character I could identify by image was Yasu but he appears to just wear a business suit.

>>12466862
Ryu talks about that in an interview. If I recall correctly, Beatrice's birthday was it's release date.

Edit: Actually. it was the Famicom release date.
http://umineko.wikia.com/wiki/Answer_to_the_Golden_Witch
>R: [blah blah blah]I wanted to give it a culprit that cannot be copypasted. In that sense, I think YASU is a groundbreaking invention.

>K: Now you’re talking about The Portopia Serial Murder Case (Pôtopia renzoku satsujin jiken), right?!

>R: Of course. You can definitely deceive some people, because “The culprit is Yasu” has become such a stereotype. It’s a bold move that can only be done once.

>K: The day Yasu became a witch, the 29th of November, was also the release date of the Famicom version of Portopia. Did you really match it up with Battler’s birthday, the 15th of July, which is the original release date of the Famicom console?

>>12466920
This 'Yasu' stuff is spoiling Portopia and Umineko before I can play them. I must drown this in liquor.

This doesn't seem related to the black uniform though.

>>12466773
紗代(Sayo) can be read as Sa Shiro. Possibly a corruption of San Shi, or 34.?

Also as Sha Shiro. That Sha would be represented in Japanese as しゃ, or Shi Ya. Shi Ya Shiro. Maybe a connection to O-Yashiro-sama as well?

Spooky.

>>12466952
Don't worry. Portopia is boring shit, and you're not going to understand Umineko without discussing it with others anyway, and while Higurashi threads sometimes use spoilers, Umineko never, ever do.

It is against the rules to spoil anything more important than sexual fantasies about Maria in Umineko threads.

So get used to it.

>>12466966
Kuso post.

Could someone give me a link to that tumblr discussion, I can't find it through google.

I'm planning to make a fangame and are in the process of gathering the assets and will soon write the script. You will have the option to end up with one of the characters based on certain events during the game, im unsure about some of them but so far it's Mion, Rena, Shion and Satoko, Nii nii, so it's not what your thinking).

Unsure, but would you guys want a Rika option.

>>12467581
> nii nii

So you're making a yaoi Satoshi route ?

>>12465776
I guess that person is talking about sites like Getchu, Gyutto or Melonbooks:
http://dl.getchu.com/index.php?action=cirDetail&cirid=628
http://gyutto.com/search/dojin_circle_detail.php?id=490
http://www.melonbooks.com/index.php?main_page=maker_info&makers_id=MK0000002107

Some of your money still goes to Hobibox though, who are actually one of the main shareholders of MangaGamer, and the company responsible behind-the-scenes for the Steam release of Higurashi, AND the owners of Caramel-Box who created the new sprites.
No matter where you buy 07th Expansion's sound novels from (unless you buy second-hand, of course), your money essentially still goes to the same people anyway.

>>12466799
Funnily enough, Aiko and Ichirou are the names of Ryukishi07's parents. I wonder if Ryukishi07's mother is also a fan of mystery stories...

>>12467834
I'm more interested in the dad if that's true.

>>12468006
All I know from the dad is from an interview on youtube where the dad helped Ryukishi with the research though this mostly happened in Rena's arc iirc.
The interview was conducted before the 7th arc was out so I can't really know to what extent Ryukishi was influenced by them.
I do know that Ryukishi asked his dad to do research on how much it would take to blow up a school with gasoline and he even mentions this in the footnote page of the manga.

>>12468048
>hey dad could you please tel me how much gasoline I need to blow up a school?
>sure thing son!

>>12468048
Also something I found hilarious is that he actually does what he preaches.
You know ''don't hold everything by yourself, seek help from others, ask your friends'' and he asks his parents for help,

I dunno, that always makes me giggle.

>>12467400
>http://vndb.org/v4511/chars

It'd be here, but it's also kind of buried in just fanart posts:
Vote in primary after work

>>12469215
The more I think about it, the more I don't think it's the right one.
It might be that VN I've seen a long time ago which was related to Yasu and its connection to Umineko rather than that Vn which is connected to Takano.

Also
Hue hue
One detective VN connected to Takano who is the villain.
One detective VN connected to Yasu who is also the villain.

Okay, but has Hou been uploaded?

>>12469337
Yes, everyone is off playing it right now. It's up on nyaa.

Fucking Meakashihen So is there any possibility Shion and Mion had actually changed personas and no one find out? Or was just Shion's madness.
I should've read the manga a long time ago

>>12470201
oh, never mind, I just found out

>>12469337
Add this magnet link to your torrent client:
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>>12471088
Thanks. I hope this isn't like that Higanbana troll copy.

>>12471123
Haha, I dont think its a troll... But no problem

>>12471088
>[DVDISO][130704] ひぐらしのなく頃に 拡...
Hey fuck you pal.

>>12471453
>Higurashi Outbreak
Hahaha.
You have to wait a month or so before leaks.

>>12471457
Why a month?

>>12471457
>leaks
It's already been released.

>>12471611
Sure, and my parents work at 07th Expansion.

>>12471636
Then they'd be able to tell you that.

>>12471453
I'd love to understand moonrunes I almost bite

>>12471789
Enough already, someone just fucking upload the game already. Anyway, I ripped the PC sound novels graphics, the first, Kai and Rei. Would anyone want them. Its the original sprites and everything else.

>>12472027
Mind uploading them?

>Some of the Kizuna sprites are up on the Higurashi wiki

Oh, that's neat. I really can't wait for that patch to come out. Same with the Steam release.

The Steam release is not going to have voices, right?

>>12472561
No voices.

>>12472561

No, but someone might make a patch for them eventually.

>>12472581
Do you think so? Only Onikakushi has a voice patch so far.

I just read the scene with Irie eating lunch with Takano in Matsuribayashi-hen.

It's weird. I always felt sorry for her hellish childhood, but I never actually cared about her as a character. Her whole talk with Irie, sharing her past with him, reminiscing about the flags on kid's meals, it all made her feel more human, in a way.

I think I actually like her now.

>>12472549
May have uploaded them some weeks ago, but I'm still updating the sprites for the next release of the question arcs tough, Rena's casual sprite is a bit improved for exemple.
You may also have seen I've ended up setting two slots for Takano, one for Matsuri and the other for Kizuna, could continue that later, by uploading the adapted vanilla ps2 sprites to make both available.
http://whentheycry.wikia.com/wiki/Takano_Miyo

Did Takano do WTC? Sounds like something she would mastermind.

Mangagamer posted another sprite of the Steam version, Rena in casual clothes with the omochikaeri expression this time.
I'll make a sprite comparison later as usual.

Also, sadly they confirmed they won't make any CGs.

>>12460874
What are the new arcs?
And also, what's the motivation behind that release? We already know who the culprit is and what's happening, so why should I readdit?

>>12473226
It's an encore version because Ryukishi didn't have any other project to make for this year. And Higurashi ain't about just finding the culprit then goodbye, the kakera stuff has got a great potentiel for other arcs. And the one in Hou is about Hanyu and her past, tough it has also been done in Kizuna IV.
Otherwise, tried to modify Satoko's ps2 towel to make her blue like the original, how does that looks ?

>>12473233
Looks okay, but could use some smoothing at the bottom left.

So basically, it's a fandisk?

>>12473237
It's a bundle release with every arcs in one disc.

>>12473249
Including the PS2 arcs? I heard they're good.

>>12473233
Are you giving her a naked portrait too? I ask for no particular reason.

>>12473251
no, they doesn't, just the arcs officially made by 07th expansion themselves, tough Ryukishi did supervised the ps2 and ds arcs.

>>12473265
Nope. That was just a color change test, making a naked version would be near impossible, and it wouldn't fit with her CG in the last chapter anyway, no point at all.

>>12473205
Ehhhhhh, uh, it looks like shit.
Her head is too big, the body ratio doesn't work and her legs are too tall.
And her chest overall is tiny as fuck.

The more I see the more I don't like.
I'm still going to buy but this is terrible.

>>12473339
>And her chest overall is tiny as fuck.
I hate to break to you, but little girls usually don't have breast.

>>12473369
> Rena
> little girl

What the hell are you even saying.
>>12472549

>>12473369
I'm not talking about breast here, her chest itself is small as fuck. I don't care about breast, except if were talking about Mion's breast which are important to the plot.
Or maybe her hips are huge as fuck which makes her chest look small as fuck?

Also, her hat looks like it was just randomly slapped on the top of her head.
Not like she has a hat but like it's barely even on her head. It almost looks like a sock.

In other sprites, it looks like an actual hat since it covers most of her head.
I dunno, it just seems like Rena is forcefully forced to wear that hat.

Sorry to bother everyone with an off topic post, but can someone please translate this for me?

>>12473380
>seems like Rena is forcefully forced
Forcelly forced? The fuck you're affirming, friend? Frankly, I have faith you can fake being fine.

Her hat really is too little, tried to adapt it myself (the size is the same as the sprite used ingame in 480p, based on a screenshot of the game)

>>12473396
I haven't slept yet.

>>12473399
There we go.
Holy fucking god does this look a hundred times better.
Now it actually looks like a hat.

>>12473405
Not sleeping is a sure sentence to a slaughter once the spend sand is sent.

>>12473406
I have no idea what you're talking about.
I think what I was trying to say is that it looks like she was told to put on a hat rather than wear a hat.
Or something.

>>12473411
Her hat a rat? Rather, don't you remark that her rooster is rather radical, rather than rooting for a rapscallion?

>>12473426
Stop blowing my mind.

alright, finished making the casual suit Rena comparison.

>>12473719
Far left and far right are the cutest. I like how flowy Rena's dress is in the original.

Rip 1
(https://mega.co.nz/#!HNowyKhb!nPxMmUJJ771QrgO4ODOjKX7y5QJvbzwbeQADOMKdwW0))
Rip Kai
(https://mega.co.nz/#!WVhQVbzT!-BUsbS5JuENuhE3nJF64OLthaxkBNhkKqOPiMMnvtd4))
Rip Rei
(https://mega.co.nz/#!qBAhxIDT!lItHKi3P7VqkwnF_f8AxqwZdSDx7SnHqQZicAeHs1F8))

That's the links for the graphic rips from the games, enjoy.

>>12473783
Thanks, I really appreciate it.

>>12473719
Original >= DS version > Steam Version = PS2 version

Also, the bigger the hat, the cutter the girl is.
Now that I can see the Steam version of Rena in the game, it doesn't look *that* bad.
It's overdone but doesn't look that bad. It looks like shes dying of moe rather than going Arrghhhh sooo cute.
Even the PS2 and DS version do it better.

>>12473205
Rena's exposed thighs

>>12473872
The Steam version looks like something out of Lucky Star.

>>12473719
why does the Steam hat looks like a used condom ?

>>12473899
They really made it too small compared to her head.

>>12473719
Funny fact, even, if it's still the same perspective, the nose is higher for the omochiakeri expression because of the size of the mouth.

>>12473205
>>12473399
>>12473719

Since it's gonna bother some people 'till the day they die, do you think you can also edit her collar to be more like it's normal one? Would it be easy enough to do that with her sprite sheet when the game comes out?

>>12473205
>>12473399
>>12473719

Since it's gonna bother some people 'till the day they die, do you think you can also edit her collar to be more like it's normal one? Would it be easy enough to do that with her sprite sheet when the game comes out?

>>12474155
That sounds retarded. No. I have better things to do with my time.

>>12474176

A simple "no" would have been fine. There's no need to be an ass about it.

>>12474176
I've already got fake messages under my name before, but this one is quite something, I don't get it.

>>12474155
I could quickly try that to see how it would looks. I guess we'll see later about including those two modifications for every sprites of casual Rena.

>>12460874
Can someone explained how to install Higurashi Rei? I got the image mounted but it won't let me do anything from there.

>>12474205

Well, at least you know you've made it when people start pretending to be you.

Also, thanks for considering my suggestion. Rena's Steam sprites have been the best so far, so it really sucks to see her casual outfit ruined by lazy floating hats and a dark blue neck.

>>12474262
how does that looks ? Could have been slightly better if I had the transparent sprite of her school sprite tough, whatevs.

>>12474262
>Rena's Steam sprites have been the best so far
Really?

I would say Satoko's Steam version are even better than all versions, even the original.
Rena just looks too moe.

Also, I just realized.
Rena cut her neck pretty deep and in nearly all places.
Her having a collar that goes most of her neck makes sense.
Though it still makes no sense to me since she doesn't wear one at school.

Same for her wrist. I always thought Rena always wore a band to cover her suicide marks but she only wears them in her casual clothing.
Wouldn't it be more visible if she didn't wear them? Really makes no sense to me.

>>12474304
I agree, also think Satoko's is the best for now. Rena is ok but looks too young/moe, then Rika and Mion are garbage.

Like you said so yourself, her neck is fine in her other clothes, so that makes no sense to hide it.

>>12474303

Here you go, if you ever need it.

>>12474317

Mion is weird. She looks fine in the black and white line art, but the colors suddenly make her look wonky as hell. It's mostly the face, I think.

>>12472773
Welcome to The Point Of The Novel.epub

>>12473384
Silent
A Russian soldier who doesn't hold leaf of language.

>>12474343

I know that, it's just that I haven't been able to read the VNs up until recently, and I first got into Higurashi way back when the anime was airing. So I've spent all this time thinking of Takano as this not-really-an-actual-character thing.

>>12474317
>Rena is ok but looks too young/moe, then Rika and Mion are garbage.
Pretty much.

>Like you said so yourself, her neck is fine in her other clothes, so that makes no sense to hide it.

The anime and manga make it even more clear when she takes a bath and you can see her marks.
So why the fuck doesn't she wear them at school? Why not wear them all the time?

>>12474360
I thought the anime did a decent job with her character. It's been years so I don't really remember.

The point of her character is to pity her shit life but then realize her whole reasoning is flawed and fucking stupid, due to her stupid grandfather pushing an idea to the extreme, so you can actually not give a fuck about her.
I mean, she did kill the cast, no point pitying assholes, no matter how bad they had it.

>>12474360
Yes, I understand.
Only in the last episode you actually find out everything was one big tragedy, not just a "Must defeat the evil mastermind because she's evil" thing.
I'm so glad Tomitake stayed at her side after the end. I want to hug her and tell her it's going to be all right.

>>12474393
He's such a beta.

>girlfriend had plan, and actually did kill you in an alternate world, to kill you for stupid reasons
>forgive her and keep being at her side because I'm too beta to find anyone else

And you know he's a shit since he has the same no real personality or presence like George from Umineko.

>>12474334
> transparent
Having a white background ain't being transparent, what's more I did used this image as a ref' for the neck.

>>12474398
Locomotive plz

>>12474398
Wow, I rarely see people be as much of a faggot as you.
Are you the autist who kept screaming Rosatrice a while back?

>>12474427
>Locomotive
Funny that his spotlight is best ARRGHHHH I'M SO AWWEEESSSOOOOME and gets caught in a single try.

>>12474452
Also funny, Tomitake is the most popular character according to the recent Higurashi poll at the Higurashi con who's name I can't remember. Rika being the second and Rena the third iirc.

>>12474398
>what is love?

>>12474427

>Transparent

Whoops, I somehow forgot that part. I can't read today.

>>12474466

Isn't Tomitake's popularity thanks to his status as a meme? In that case, the actual most popular characters are still Rika and Rena.

>>12474491
Baby no hurt me.
Something that desperate people seek which has no value until you are blinded by it. Which may or not be beautiful since it is a subjective viewpoint to only a person who has love.

It's also the reason why Takano fell in love with him.
Love has no real reason but it really does, it's just complicated.
She loved Tomitake, who is unfunny, has no personality, somewhat fat, unimposing and boring, because she was too dedicated in her work and never had any trace of womanhood or any direct connection.

So having a bit of bullshit fun taking pictures with a guy was enough to ''fall in love'' with him.
Also look at teenage girls who experience first love. That's what happened with Takano.
Both parties are shit in their quest for love.

However, it does not mean they do no love each other. No one can deny they might actually truly love each other.
I'm just cynical about it.

That's what I love about Ryukishi.
He can go on and on about how beautiful love really is. Yet he can cast a real doubtful eye on love itself without painting love as being pure or stupid, which is exactly how love really is.

This particular poem is how I think Ryukishi sees love.
Love is an illusion, a misunderstanding.
Mutual love is a mutual misunderstanding of being mutually loved.
And engagement is a vow to not wake up for your whole life from that misunderstanding.
-Ronove

Testing the Steam Rena sprite with my patch, in sunset mode.

>>12474534
textless if some are interested.

>>12474520
>Isn't Tomitake's popularity thanks to his status as a meme?
Possibly.
But I'm still impressed he's still popular over the years.

>>12474534
Looks pretty good to be honest.
With the hat actually being the correct size, she doesn't look completely stupid. And the CG is works well.

>>12474536
Also, did you add a filter that made Rena slightly orange-y?
Or is it just my mind playing tricks?

>>12474554
> in sunset mode
> in sunset mode
> in sunset mode

>>12474560
I honestly don't know what that is so I'm going to assume the answer is yes.

>>12474565
it means exactly that, sunset mode with the color being adapted for it.

>>12474570
Either way, it really looks good.

test with Satoko's towel sprite too.

>>12474522
>Yet he can cast a real doubtful eye on love itself
>he
You're not R07.

>>12474581
Hmmmm, it's lewder now.

>>12474534
>>12474536
>>12474581

They look really great with the PS2 backgrounds.

Testing Akane's kizuna sprite. Only have her angry expression ref' for now.

>>12474583
Doesn't mean I can't interpret how he thinks.
He's always on the side of love, I'll say that much.
But it's funny because look at that poem.
>Love is an illusion
meaning there is no such thing as love.
>love is a misunderstanding
People fall in love for their own reasons because of how they see other people and interpret them, yet you can never know what the other side thinks.
>mutal love is a mutal misunderstanding of being murally love
Means both side don't understand the other side and hope the other side loves them
>an engagement is a vow to not wake up from that misunderstanding
meaning you will stay together not because of your love but because of your commitment.

No matter how you see it, it's cynical as fuck.

And he doesn't go all ''love is great, it's perfect bla bla bla'' yet Featherine always goes how she loves love stories. I'm sure Ryukishi loves them too. He's just a tad bit skeptical about it. But it doesn't mean he doesn't believe in it.
You can selfishly establish exactly why a person fell in love if you're cynical about it in all of Ryukishi's story.

Anyways, it still makes Tomitake a beta and Takano a shit who both fell in love for shit reasons.
But again, without love it cannot be seen and I don't give half an ass about love.

>>12475604
I question your reading comprehension abilities. There's no skepticism at all in the passage you quoted.

>>12475613
I question your own reading comprehension in the implication that love = an illusion = doesn't exist.

>>12475640
I apologize. It was actually your inadequate vocabulary that I should have pointed out.

illusion: noun. a thing that is or is likely to be wrongly perceived or interpreted by the senses.

>>12475660
What are you trying to get at? Are you perhaps mentally challenged?
>a false idea or belief.
I'm quoting the dictionary, nerd.

>>12475660
Okay then?
Love is a illusion, a thing that is likely wrongly perceived by opposite parties who consider themselves in love and that their love is passionate with meaning.

Therefore the concept of love, mutual love does not exist as it is commonly refereed by society.

In Ryukishi's interpretation, people in love and love itself are misguided and hiding from the real truth. An illusion. Hiding that all there is might only be based desires and our find seeking a greater truth.
Or better, misinterpreted for what it really is, lonely people seeking the comfort of others. Not some grand finding yourself in others and feeling better because the other person loves you for who you truly are.

I seriously don't see what you're misunderstanding.
That's skeptical and cynical.

If you believe in love, love can cure all problems etc.
If you're skeptical of love, you might think it exist but a true idea of love might not actually be possible since it's just an impossible concept and measure.
And I'm cynical as fuck, saying love itself is just bullshit but people do believe in it and do have legitimate reasons to consider themselves in love. And Ryukishi doesn't dismiss this view.

What do you interpret?

>>12473783
What's with the shadow copies next to the normal sprites?

>>12475712
>Therefore the concept of love, mutual love does not exist as it is commonly refereed by society.
>In Ryukishi's interpretation, people in love and love itself are misguided and hiding from the real truth.
No. Ryukishi never goes as far as to say that love doesn't exist or that it hides an uglier truth. He simply stops at saying that love is a misunderstanding. You're merely projecting your own skepticism and cynicism into the poem and interpreting it as Ryukishi's.
As >>12474583 said:
>You're not R07.

In fact, I'd even venture to say that the last line of the poem suggests a viewpoint which is in total opposition to your own. "An engagement is a vow to not wake up from that misunderstanding" implies that those who are in love are not only NOT misguided, but that, even while being conscious of their mutual misunderstanding, choose to see it through to the end.

>>12475694
Quote this, sperglord
>false != non-existent

>>12475797
If the common understanding of love is a misunderstanding, then its actual mean of what constitutes will never be achieved because it is an illusion, something that isn't there, like a mirage.

>Ryukishi never goes as far as to say that love doesn't exist or that it hides an uglier truth.
Yes and Jessica loves Kanon, not because it would make her feel accepted by society and by what is the standard at her age.
And George loves Shannon, not because he knows he's a beta fag whom no woman can even like him because he's boring, despite his mother hooking him up none stop, and has to lower himself to a fucking servant because he can't be with anyone.
And Natsuhi and Krauss love each other, not because Kinzo forced it upon Krauss to marry her to laugh at Natsuhi's family.
And Eva actually loves Hideyoshi, not because Eva was fucked into being a housewife and immediately got married with whomever her father accepted so she can bare a son and have said son be in charge.
And Kyrie loving Rudolf for his charms and him loving her despite continually fucking another woman behind his wife whom he actually loved.
However, all their love is true. I will never fucking deny that love doesn't exist. Just because their love is selfish to a degree doesn't mean they don't have love or don't understand it.

Again, I'm not saying love doesn't exist, only the concept itself is misunderstood because of more basic desires, hence it being an illusion. If love was real in its actual meaning, there would not be a misunderstanding nor would it be wrongly perceived.

>>12475797
>"An engagement is a vow to not wake up from that misunderstanding" implies that those who are in love are not only NOT misguided, but that, even while being conscious of their mutual misunderstanding, choose to see it through to the end.
That would imply that people are conscious of their misunderstanding. I highly doubt humans understand their own flaws unless other people point them out. The term ''fool in love'' would suggest otherwise, that people don't know why they are in love, only that they are. People in love just seek to make their love real and not a misunderstanding last by the use of marriage.

It's still not love, it's just crystallized idealism.

>>12475850
The point is that love is false, which means "true" love itself doesn't exist. How hard is it to understand such a simple concept?

>>12475914
And Takano would not fall in love with Tomitake who is boring, has no talent, has nothing interesting but gave her the time of day.
And Tomitake loves Takano because he's a boring faggot with no love life and the only woman nearby was lonely as fuck because she had spent her entire life studying for her father.

Even deeper? I can do the fucking same for Lucia in Rewrite.
Lucia loves Kotaru because he's the only guy who she can be with because he won't die if she touches him.

Every single situation of love can be understood and comprehended by basic selfish desires.
Hence, an illusion.

There is no true love, only people who deluded themselves into thinking they are in love and not knowing WHY they are in love. Or perhaps ignoring it through cognitive dissonance.

>>12475914
>>12475921
>>12475943
You're projecting so hard it hurts. Please learn to divorce your personal interpretations from what is actually written, instead of substituting them for Ryukishi's intended meaning.

>>12475957
The author is dead. Ryukishi's intended meanings are irrelevant. We can interpret his story in any way that we like.

>>12475957
Uh huh, sure it is.

>My interpretation > your interpretation
Again, I'm not saying that love doesn't exist or that they aren't in love.

>>12475965
>My interpretation > your interpretation
I think you're missing the point here. I'm not even arguing about my interpretation right now. You're basing your arguments on your personal interpretations by treating them as fact instead of basing them on the actual text of the story. Furthermore, you're going even further than that by claiming to possess intimate knowledge about the author's mindset when that is patently ridiculous.
Reminder:
>You're not R07.

>>12475965
>My headcanon > what's actually written
Fixed that for you.

>>12475985
I never said I am either.
Is this seriously because of the way I presented my point of view and you have too much autism that you think that I'm saying ''THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO SEE THE TEXT, FUCK YOUR OWN INTERPRETATIONS''?

I'm basing the fact that Ryukishi loves love stories yet each of his characters that are in love actually fell in love for selfish reasons and not the actual pure ''I love you because I fell in love with you for who you are'' reasons that is commonly inferred as true love.

You are arguing about your interpretation over mine because you're assuming what you interpreted is how Ryukishi interpreted the concept of love.

Here's a better fucking question, how do you interpret the character?
Rather than run off about meta and bullshit, how do you interpret Tanako loving Tomitake? Or Tomitake loving Takano?

I'd love to hear *your* interpretation of the text you read.

>>12475999
Headcanon =/= interpretation.
Learn the word because you spout it.

Headcanon is Ange going to Hinamizawa because Okonogi suggest it and actually went there one time because of that conversation.

>>12476007
>You are arguing about your interpretation over mine because you're assuming what you interpreted is how Ryukishi interpreted the concept of love.
Realize that I only actually discussed my own interpretation in the second paragraph of this post: >>12475797

Everything else has been trying to get you to step out of your little echo chamber so there could actually be some common bases on which to hold a discussion.

By the way, here you are doing it again:
>each of his characters that are in love actually fell in love for selfish reasons

This claim isn't actually supported by the narrative itself, only by your (rather twisted I might add) interpretation of it.

Finally, I don't really care about Tomitake or Takano. Their little love story is truly insignificant to the tale and insignificant to me. I'm only posting here because I thought it incredibly pretentious of you to start expounding on Ryukishi's views without actually knowing anything about them.

>>12476056
>This claim isn't actually supported by the narrative itself, only by your (rather twisted I might add) interpretation of it.
I just fucking explained it. I literally just laid out all the character Ryukishi wrote that are in love, how they fell in love and how none of them are purely in love for lovely reasons. Hence being an illusion which all relates back to fucking Tomitake and Takano loving each other as was the original spark discussion about love. All this going back to saying ''Tomitake loved Takano'' and me saying pffttt sure he does, he just loves her because he's a beta and has no one else.

Hell, Takano and Tomitake having literally no chemistry or anything that is near love, and yet people giving me shit that they are is love supports it this.

All you're telling me is to stop projecting.
If you have no opinion on it or don't care except to tell me to shut up for having different views than you on the same material, you can kindly fuck off somewhere else rather than being the moral teacher.
I seriously want to know your view on the material and all I'm getting out of you is that I should shut up because I'm projecting, not maybe because it might be a message Ryukishi put in the text and you didn't get, nooo, it's obviously *my* projecting.

>step out of your echo chamber
>I thought it incredibly pretentious of you to start expounding on Ryukishi's views without actually knowing anything about them.
>stop having opinions and thinking your opinions are what the author felt because you're wrrrrooooooong

I don't even know why the fuck I'm arguing with you, you're not refuting anything I said.

Fuck I wish the chinks would stop teasing and just upload the game already.

>>12476105
I just want to know spoilers, like who the hell is that loli and why is she with Takano?
And why does that 2hu character and Hanyuu hate each other.

>>12476109
Well who doesn't hate Hanyuu.

>>12476088
>I just fucking explained it. I literally just laid out all the character Ryukishi wrote that are in love, how they fell in love and how none of them are purely in love for lovely reasons.
surely you're not referring to this tripe?
>Yes and Jessica loves Kanon, not because it would make her feel accepted by society and by what is the standard at her age.
>And George loves Shannon, not because he knows he's a beta fag whom no woman can even like him because he's boring, despite his mother hooking him up none stop, and has to lower himself to a fucking servant because he can't be with anyone.
>And Natsuhi and Krauss love each other, not because Kinzo forced it upon Krauss to marry her to laugh at Natsuhi's family.
>And Eva actually loves Hideyoshi, not because Eva was fucked into being a housewife and immediately got married with whomever her father accepted so she can bare a son and have said son be in charge.

lol nigger, that is what we in common parlance call "headcanon"

you'd have to be schizophrenic to be unable to distinguish between what exists solely in your head and what is written down on paper. maybe you've been sitting in that echo chamber for too long

>>12476112
Good point.
Though I'm sure Hanyuu has stupid reasons for being a shit this time around.

I just hope that whatever reason brought them together won't make things more shit for Rika.

>>12476122
''lol headcanon'' is such a truly good empty rebuttal of bullshit.
Anyways, it's clear you have nothing to say on the matter other than ridicule by pointing fingers.

>>12476112
I like Hanyuu

>>12476128
Umm you realize that if you wanted to prove me wrong, all you'd have to do is provide a quote or screenshot of anything you've said above actually being in the game's narrative?

Except you can't, because it's only in your head. Checkmate.

>>12476146
No, it's because ''reading between the lines'' is something too much for you to understand and you think that it means headcanon which isn't even the proper use of the word.

You're retarded on such a level it boggles my mind that I seriously think you're trolling.
You are literally asking me to provide a cap from a text that says something akin to ''Jessica or whatever doesn't really love bla bla bla'' which dismisses anything I might have ''interpreted'', see that word again, in the ext because it isn't stated point blank in the text.
Nowhere in what I've stated is headcanon except you saying it is.

You're the sort of faggot that would go in Umineko threads and say ''YOU CAN ONLY BELIEVE THE RED TRUTH GUYS, FUCK EVERYTHING ELSE, STOP THINKING''.

As for proof, I'm not even going to bother.
Takano talking that she doesn't know why she's even with Tomitake is enough blunt.

Seriously, I'm saying ''the text is also mentionning X and Y'' and you're going all HUUURRRR IT'S NOT TRUE, THE TEXT ONLY SAYS TRUTH AND NOTHING CAN BE INFERED BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE HEADCANON.

I'm asking you for a counter point of what you think love is about in the text and you're telling me to read it again rather than give your opinion.
Your opinion is literally that you have no opinion.

>>12476171
>As for proof, I'm not even going to bother.
There are more graceful ways to admit defeat than writing an entire wall of agonized wailing, but I accept that you've conceded defeat.

If you want my opinion, it's that love exists in spite - or maybe even because - we choose carry on in a relationship despite realizing that we are deluded. By my interpretation, that is what Ryukishi is conveying in that poem. Of course, I already said as much several posts ago.

>>12476191
And how does your interpretation reject anything I've mentioned?

You're a fucking hypocrite who just wants people to stop interpreting people work in their opinions.
Stop being an autist about things like this and these shitty arguments wouldn't happen.

I talked about his entire body of work and you talked about a single line of poem. And makes you parade that you've won.
Oh but because ''it's the correct way of interpreting that line, because it matches how you think of it'' that makes my opinion and interpretation headcanon.

>>12473779
Thanks!

>>12476204
Um. I still think you're missing my point here. We're starting to run around in circles so this will be my last attempt at explaining my position.

>You're a fucking hypocrite who just wants people to stop interpreting people work in their opinions.
I only want people (actually, not people, just you in particular) to stop passing off interpretation as fact, especially if you're trying to use said interpretation as the basis for another argument.

>Stop being an autist about things like this and these shitty arguments wouldn't happen.
Someone here has been dropping not-so-subtle hints of autism, I agree. But it isn't me.

>Oh but because ''it's the correct way of interpreting that line, because it matches how you think of it'' that makes my opinion and interpretation headcanon.
I don't even care about what people think of my interpretation, I only shared because you kept asking for it. I just don't want faggots like you forcefeeding me your own and pretending you've got unparalleled insight into the mind of the author.

>>12476237
Then if you don't want to talk about Higurashi or anything, you can leave.

No one gives a fuck about you wanting to change how people explain their opinions.
You don't care about your interpretation because you don't have any.

I don't have a fucking insight into the mind of the author, I just see it as it is.

If you don't want to be ''forcefeed'' you don't even have to join these threads, since threads are made to exchange opinions so I have no fucking clue why you even come here other than to correct people, me, to change how they talk and exchange opinions.

Especially when the opinion itself I'm saying isn't wrong except of you bitching that I don't know what Ryukishi is thinking because I'm not Ryukishi.
What pointless tautology.

>>12476136
You are a bad person. Hanyuu tortures little girls for fun, then makes them think that it is their fault and tells them that if they want it to stop they should figure out how to stop it themselves. Oyashiro-sama is a cruel god, don't let her shyness and flat chest and lewd overalls deceive you.

>>12476505
She also has great judgement.

>>12476505
http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1031690?pool_id=4507

>>12476088
I don't get why everyone is jumping this guy, he does have a point. Take a look at Shion and Satoshi, she is in love with him but a very fake love at that. Based on him being a knight and shining armor by "saving" her and due to the fact he's probably the first boy she's even talked to. Shion became fascinated by him but for all the wrong reasons one would consider real love, all the characters are like this. Who the hell liked Satoshi for his personality, he's the only boy around them of the same age.

Anyway, whoever you are. I'd bet you'd make an awesome Evangelion character analysis because its the exact same thing. Characters together through reasons which evolves into a false sense of love. One would call both interpretation but it is present at the surface level.

>>12476146
>>12476204
I didn't find anything nothing wrong with what he said, and he even gave examples to prove his point. What you're doing stating your opinion without backing it up with facts from the material, so why should anyone care about what you're trying to convey? There is nothing wrong with having different interpretations but at least try to form an argument instead of parroting opinions.

>>12477227
Really now? You don't need correct reasons to fall in love with someone. Sentiments are not based on logic.

>>12477324

Pretty much, yeah.

>>12477324

Pretty much, yeah.

>>12477227

>I'd bet you'd make an awesome Evangelion character analysis

If anything, do Utena.

>>12476617
>there will never be a useable eye-bag tag.

>>12477227
>he does have a point
Haven't read the later posts because I don't care, but no, he doesn't have a point.
You seem to think they're parallel stances: You can think it's pure/real/whatever love (or R07 saying how love is wonderful) or you can think it's silly love (or R07 being critical or whatever of love).
But they're not parallel but vertical. You're adding things to the novel that are not there.
The novel only has, for example, Shion being in love with Satoshi. There's no criticism, no deeper meaning to anything. It's just a girl falling in love with a boy as a plot device. Any "opinion" you say you have or the author has is pulled out of nothing. There's no criticism about Tomitake's relation with Takano. It's just a man being in love with a woman for the sake of the plot. R07 never thought or wrote anything deeper than that.

Here, have a story: "Boy meets girl."
Did I just create some deep criticism of gender or relationships? No, it's just one goddamn sentence.

>>12476171
>STOP THINKING
Ahahahaha, you ARE the Rosatrice autist! I knew it!

>>12477896
Oh, so because you don't see any deeper meaning than the storytelling, you call it a day.

>R07 never thought or wrote anything deeper than that.
Yeah, look who's talking about saying he can think what Ryukishi thought.
>I read it like this, in this plain text and there's only text
This is the equivalent of someone saying themes and metaphors don't exist, there exist only the text the author wrote.

Just because there is no direct criticism does not mean a point cannot be sent across with the narrative.

>>12477324
Honestly. What does this nameless anon think the requirements for love are? Gotta search through all of Earth for your whole life and choose the one that you connect to the most?

Wouldn't all of this love talk be better suited to an Umineko thread? Let's talk about something else.

For example, what do you guys think makes Satoko "break" when Teppei returns? They talk about how there's only a short amount of time before it's too late to save her, but what exactly is it that makes her irreparable?

And we never really get a clear implication of WHAT exactly happens to her. And being raped or molested isn't all that likely, because of pic related.

Has anyone here played the PS2 arc where K1, Rena, and Shion all kill Teppei? Because I know Satoko flips her shit and kills Shion before offing herself. Maybe that arc would explain some things.

>>12478025
It's a bit more complex than that.
To me, love is not so much as a person you connect the most with, you can connect very much with your best friend but it doesn't mean you'll love him/her in a romantic way, but how much you are completed by the other person as much as you help the person whom you love.

There are no requirements for knowing what is love or what a person constitutes love considering it's a very subjective interpretation . There are many views on love as there are people who are in love.
If a person loves and is loved, then it is love. There is no one that can criticizes that their love is real.

People can find a deep meaning in love, people can find a shallow reason to fall in love.
There are no requirements for being in love, only that the persons feel in love.
What is important, in my opinion, is what sort of bond is formed.

Even more important is that there is no true single perfect love.
A person who is less qualified but still fills your required needs to be in love can still be loved and that's perfectly fine. And if that love were to die over time, a new love can bloom with another person. Love is both eternal and it is not, it is a fickle thing.

Again, anyone can be in love.
Every single character Ryukishi has written that has been in a romantic relationship has been in love. But each and every single one of them has a different personal reason for being in love which they themselves either don't realize or chose to ignore.
And that reasoning, by itself, can be criticized.
But their love, however, can never be for love is pure.

>>12478048
>Has anyone here played the PS2 arc where K1, Rena, and Shion all kill Teppei? Because I know Satoko flips her shit and kills Shion before offing herself.
Jesus, does that really happen?

I heard that Ryukishi supervised that arc but didn't write it.

Concerning Satoko, it's clear she wasn't raped but she was likely going to be raped.
Personally, he could have ''groomed'' her and only wait a year or less but meh.

She likely just got beaten to death and made her do ''weird things''.

>>12476505
I hate how in Sai Hanyuu tries to blame Rika for not living as a human when that was Hanyuu's fault for not wanting to be lonely and let Rika go. Even worse is that Rika was gullible enough to buy it.

>>12478219

I think that was because Hanyuu matured during Minagoroshi and Matsuribayashi. She even says it was a mistake to put Rika through all that and that they should have cherished the time they already had together.

Hanyuu is a badass, so cold and hard and cool.
She's a god
She's cute as fuck, holy shit.
She's been married and had a child in her natural life, yet has a tiny cute loli body.
She's an outsider who had to opportunity to join the club with their fun activities and such. I wish I could do that.
And she's responsible for such a great, entertaining story.
Thanks, Hanyuu.

>>12478048
Teppei was an incestfag?

>>12478056
Well, that's not all for this ps2 arc. Mion wonders what could the three be hiding, so she disguise herself as Mion. Then her, Rena and Kei discover the corpses of Satoko and Shion in her house. Rena and Kei thinks Mion is the one who did it, so they kill her. Then Rena kills Kei, after setting Satoko's house on fire with everyone's corpse in it.
She then proceed to murder Rika at the schrine, because she thinks that would free them of Oyashiro sama's curse.
She then escape, remember about the good days with her friend, then Kumagai appear, the Yamainu seems to try to kill her, then she learn about the destruction of the village.
Wasn't called the "darkest" arc of Higurashi for nothing.

>>12478262
Hainiryûn > Hanyu

Also, finished setting the movie menu with the two first Kizuna openings, set the full 2 musics in the music menu too.

>>12478049
>Every single character Ryukishi has written that has been in a romantic relationship has been in love. But each and every single one of them has a different personal reason for being in love which they themselves either don't realize or chose to ignore.
Except R07 himself denied this. The love between his characters is always pure. Then again, as expected of the Rosatrice autist.

>>12478303
>Except R07 himself denied this.
Where? I've read a lot of Ryukishi interview but I don't recall him talking about love in all his work.

And what do you mean by ''pure''?
That they have no ill intent or faking love?
Because if it's that, then I agree, their love is pure. Again, because it seems you don't understand, their love is true.

>>12478336
Pure as in they didn't fall in love for any reasons other than falling in love. R07 also said that skeptics who see selfish ulterior motives in his love stories are not reading properly.

Google it.

>>12478356
>Pure as in they didn't fall in love for any reasons other than falling in love. R07 also said that skeptics who see selfish ulterior motives in his love stories are not reading properly.
I'll base myself off of you since I honestly can't find it.

Either way, none of his character sought love for selfish ulterior movies, I agree.
They sought love for the sake of love.

Doesn't mean their unconscious decision for wanting love or to being in love isn't to be skeptical.

>>12478269

>Rena burns down Satoko's house

Best arsonist ever. I bet if you read that before Tsumihoroboshi, it would end up making the finale much more intense.

>>12478303
>>12478336
>>12478356
>>12478373

You guys are talking about that ? You're getting annoying now, this conversation is fucking endless.

>>12478381
*are still talking about that

>>12478373
See, that's where you're way off the mark. In R07's world, there are no "unconscious decision for wanting love or to being in love".

R07 has a Twitter account. You can ask him his thoughts directly. But he's always described himself and his writing as optimistic, so he'll definitely reject your view.

>>12476136
>>12478262
She's a god that's lived for thousands of years, yet she still speaks and acts like she got hit with the retard stick. Am I supposed to believe this is the same Hanyuu that sacrificed herself to atone for her clan's sins? Why does she fucking scream "auauauau" like an autistic little shit when something doesn't go her way? Hell, Rika can't even eat spicy food or take a few shots in peace without Hanyuu's screeching and protesting. This is stuff you would expect from Maria, and look past because she's just a little girl. It takes a super retard like Hanyuu to barely match up to the cognitive ability of a 9-year-old kid despite having thousands of years of experience and wisdom.
Well done, Hanyuu. Well done.

>>12478292
I thought you said you weren't really involved in that project, but then show this?

>>12478269
Holy Christ.
Why did Rena killed K1?
What the fuck? holy shit.

>>12478381
Agreed, I'll stop talking about that.

>>12478379
I wonder where did Rena learn about all this arson.

>>12478292
Do you want a backpat for every small thing you add? You don't need to attention whore in this thread.

>>12478403
>Holy Christ.
>Why did Rena killed K1?
>What the fuck? holy shit.
Why are you so shocked? Clearly, from that description, she was very delusional and untrusting. Even killing Rika because she thought it would fix everything. Why would Keiichi be excluded?

>>12478397
She's pretending.
It's her way of living up the mood.

If she endlessly talked in her God Mode, shit would get old and bad pretty fast.
Weirdly enough, when she does talk that way, she does sound like she's over a thousand years old.

>>12478423
Rena always trusted Keiichi, so her killing him is rather shocking to me.
Rena always had good intentions and always sought to save her friends, never murder. She only saw murder as a means to an end, not randomly enjoying it.

So yeah, her going all cultist on everyone is a bit shocking because I've never actually read the details of the plot in the PS2 arcs.

>>12478428
That's litterally what happens in Tsumihoroboshi tough.

>>12478397
She's faking tough, her real personality is nowhere near like that, besides the fact she set herself on the same mental age as a person as young as Rika should be.

>>12478426
>she's pretending to be retarded
is hanyuu a /jp/?????

>>12478426
>>12478442
So she's just pretending to be retarded?

>>12478428

You can find the scene where she kills K1. She says that everything is all his fault, she thinks he's planning to kill her, and that she'll do anything it takes to get her happiness. She thinks her murders were done out of self defense, just like K1 did in Onikakushi.

>>12478408
Sorry for being productive and not shitposting like you do.

Btw, talking about Hanyu, besides the Kizuna eye update, modified her miko colors to fit the ones of the original.

>>12478445
>>12478448
Is Rika pretending to be retarded when she says "Nipah"?
Is Rena pretending to be retarded when she fawns over cute things?
She's just letting a more fun side out to get along with everyone. It's be weird if she was mumbling pretentious witch stuff in the corner while they were all playing cards.

>>12478448
Maybe there are some clear answers about that in her arc from Kizuna, but that seems to be pretty much the only way, just look at how she talk when she's serious, that's an even bigger change than Rika's.
Also, her serious mode fit her adult version in many ways.

>>12478450
>>12478442
Goddamn it Rena.

>>12478445
>>12478448
>hangs around 2hu characters
>speaks like a 2hu character
>pretends to be retarded
>gets endlessly picked on while pretending to be retarded
Pretty much.

>>12478459
Fuck those guys, you're doing great work, keep us updated on anything you're doing.
It's showing that you're doing good and that things are progressing.

>>12478467
If she really wanted to get along with everyone, she would've done something to help Rika and the group instead of letting them get killed brutally almost every kakera.

>>12478477
Wouldn't stop just because of one anon being butthurt for no reason anyway.
Also, I did tried to follow some chapters of Hanyu's arc even without understanding it (partial voicing helps tough for some scenes), and interesting fact, she goes full crazy laugh at the end of the arc, that was quite surprising. And her adult voice is great.

>>12478469
She's a terribly written plot device, and I highly doubt anything in Kizuna could fix that. Those extra arcs weren't even written by R07.

>>12478459
>>12478502
/jp/ is not your update blog.

>>12478505
> Those extra arcs weren't even written by R07

I wouldn't be so sure about that, he at least supervised them. Why does I think that ? Simple.

The Anime, manga and ds games all have exclusives contents who are strangely the same even for two of them even while being done by different persons. The first one is Natsumi's arc, Ryukishi was said to have wrote the script for the manga, and the same arc is in Kizuna with some modifications. We also have Akasaka's daughter being present in the epilogue of Himatsubushi for the manga AND Kizuna, with both versions having the same scenes. Let's not forget about the Anime's exclusive arc with Satoko, the ending is exactly the same as one of the ps2's arcs, except that Satoko is replaced by Mion.

Ryukishi most likely worked a lot on those different version, it's quite sure Hanyu's Kizuna arc is canon. Some people may say that it doesn't fully fit with what Rika said about her past in Matsuribayashi (in this one, the conversation between Hanyu and Ouka seemed quite peaceful and at night in front of the Shrine, while it was quite a huge mess in the Kizuna arc), but it seems like even Rika doesn't know what exactly happened, and the last TIP clearly says that there are different versions of the story in the hidden documents of the Furude (who are the only ones knowing about those).

>>12478540
>the higurashi thread is not for higurashi projects

>>12478565
It's blatant attention whoring, like translators who post every 10 lines they finish. It's fucking nothing, come back when you make significant progress instead of hyping everyone up and failing to deliver.

>>12478589
You obviously don't know what you're talking about if you think that's "fucking nothing", besides the fact I don't post a big part of the work I do (full scripting and partial voicing for exemple), oh well. I just posted a screenshot of the last menu I ended up adding for the final version, seems pretty obvious to post a screenshot of that, it's not like I'm posting ones of every 10 minutes of the game after I'm finished adapting them.

Also, sorry to tell you that but most of the patch is already available as the 2.5 version, and now I'm correcting or adding the last stuff for the final update, like the partial voicing, updating a lot the Kizuna sprites I've been working on, correcting again some scene, a theme bg for the main menu with the kizuna openings replacing the Matsuri one, and obviously the need to now make a movie menu, since there are more than one opening available.

Adding the fact I almost don't get any feedback anyway, even on the french side, just post in case some people might be interested.

>>12478467
>Is Rika pretending to be retarded when she says "Nipah"?
Actually, it's the opposite.

Rika is ridiculously depressed.
Rika never laughs, not even once.

So whenever she's saying ''nipah'', that's when she's suppose to be laughing or show extreme happiness.
But Rika can't actually do it because she's dead inside.
It's rather depressing.

As for Rena, she's actually pretending to be retarded because she would rather pretend to be retarded than change her surroundings which can cause her happy times to end.
She only becomes serious when she absolutely needs to.

I'm still unclear whether or not Rena loves cute things, because she likely purposefully does that she's a girl and girls like cute things (?), but her mother fucking her and her father caused her to destroy everything related to her mother and hating anything cute.
I really just think she's pretending to hoard all these cute things to seem eccentric and interesting.
And the fact that she can activate her adorable mode to fight off Chie is a bit suspicious.

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Honestly, I'm hoping Hou will shed some light on this and make a single canon of the events.
I also suspect that the reason Hanyuu's hated friend dislikes her is because of that drama.

Something along the lines that the 2hu girl was on earth for a long time, Hanyuu and her clan came on Earth to seek refuge and stayed in Hinamizawa.
The 2hu and Hanyuu argued on what to do, Hanyuu exposed herself and tragedy happened. And the two hate each other because of whatever the fuck happened there.