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Please discuss the Touhou games and STGs at large here.

Scoring challenge: UFO Boss rush
Score as high as you can in the UFO Boss rush! All shot types and difficulties welcome. You can get the patch here:
https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,14341


Spell card challenge: IN Spell 147
Score as high as you can in the 147th spell of IN (Hourai Elixir on Lunatic).


Links:
Replay uploader for 6-13: http://replays.gensokyo.org/
Replay uploader for 14: http://threplays.appspot.com/replays
STG/Touhou stream aggregator: http://stgrillz.appspot.com/

Sorry there's no 14.3 support on the uploader yet, Royalflare supports ISC if you want to use that in the meantime

>> No.12329165

Any new records set lately?
What happened to maize?

>> No.12329194

>>12329165
He was too REAL for us.

>> No.12329194,1 [INTERNAL] 

this thread will die anyway within the next 5 hours because of the summer invasion

>> No.12329194,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>12329194,1
You mean because of lack of interest

>> No.12329194,3 [INTERNAL] 

Why were/are there like 4 Kancolle threads?

>> No.12329548
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Just a first solid try to get something out there. You guys can beat this, right?

>> No.12329608

Is there any promising STGs for C86?

>> No.12329641

>>12329608
http://stg.liarsoft.org/c/?p=C86List

>> No.12329641,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>12329194,2
that probably too, i mean i train for STGs every few days but there is pretty much nothing to discuss about it since achievements are flying in rarely

>> No.12332001

Which spell card is your favorite from each game?

>> No.12333135
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Boss rush thing.

>> No.12335056

>>12329641
Edelweiss wasting booth space with their Astebreed again.

>> No.12335802

I can't pass the boss 4 of Touhou 12 on normal difficulty...

>> No.12335812

>>12335802
Play on easy then, and then work on normal.

>> No.12335996
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>> No.12336344

Why are Futo's Non-Spells harder than her spellcards?

>> No.12337010

>>12336344
Wut? How are you doing them? They're extremely simple.

>> No.12338030

>>12337010
So are her spell cards. Although the first one is probably one of the most difficult attacks in TD.

>> No.12338057

I still want to see someone skirt-sniff Futo's third spell.

Make it happen, /jp/.

>> No.12338176
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>>12332001
Scarlet Meister, Resurrection Butterfly, Hourai Elixir, Divine Virtue of Wind God, Subterranean Rose, Legendary Flying Saucer.

>> No.12338187

>>12329165
>>12329194
>>12338057
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=34166

>> No.12338469

>>12335056
Seems the list outdated. Most links are ded, and some games are already released years ago, like that Zen-Ichi.

>> No.12342959

I'm playing Imperishable Night for the first time, what does the Human-Youkai meter actually DO?

>> No.12343020
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>>12342959
>en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Imperishable_Night/Gameplay

>> No.12343182

>>12343020
Ohayou Eirinchang, I'm playing Perfect Cherry Blossom for the first time, what do the pink items actually do?

>> No.12345005

First time using a keyboard for stg do you guys stick with the default layout or?

>> No.12345014

>>12345005
I do. Some people like using wasd, but I don't really see a reason to if your right hand is dominant.

>> No.12345041

I wish I could get any of my friends to play stg

>> No.12345077

>>12345041
I introduced a friend of mine to TH2 and he said that it was fun and he even almost 1cc'd it but he kinda lost interest and we stick to YGO nowadays.

>> No.12345152

>>12345014
Ah I see well I am left handed so I will go WASD. Not sure where to place the other buttons though.
Having previously using sticks I see that it's easier to perform a tap dodge with a keyboard albeit for now atleast maneuvering around with the keyboard feels rather awkward.

>> No.12345170

>>12345152
Do you normally use your left hand on an arcade stick/dpad?

As for being 'awkward', just play a bunch and get used to it.

>> No.12345179

>>12345170
>Do you normally use your left hand on an arcade stick/dpad?
Haha well of course don't most people? I remember seeing some kids way back in the day who crossed their hands and held the stick with their right hand though.

>> No.12345189

>>12345179
I actually like using my right hand with arcade sticks because of playing fighting games with keyboards.

I use my left with dpad obviously though.

>> No.12345206

>>12345189
You cross your hands or turn the stick upside down and reassign the inputs?

>> No.12345213

>>12345206
There is a such thing as arcade sticks with the stick on the right side you can buy, you know.

>> No.12345220

>>12345213
I didnt think you preferred sticks thought it was more of a loan some guys joystick at some tournament.

>> No.12345221

has anyone made experience with a gamepad? Like a Sega Saturn or a SNES gamepad for example

>> No.12345244

>>12345221
Plenty of good players use game-pads yes. It's all about comfort Id say.

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Is PoDD's AI as bullshit as PoFV's?

>> No.12346195

>>12346170
it's an AI that wants to see you dead in Yumemi's stage

>> No.12346249

>>12346170
I haven't played PoDD so I can't direct compare, but PoFV AI's go for hours on lunatic, longer if they are both Reimu, minutes if you play as Aya.

>> No.12346337
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>>12346170

The most bullshit.

>> No.12348407
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Woo

>> No.12348756

>>12348407
Congratulations.

Now go and get the ability to put "good at danmaku" on your resume.

>> No.12348760

Any STGs where you have to pay attention to shooting? Like limited ammo or really long shot delay?
Just seems kind of lame that there might as well not even be a fire button and shooting just be active 24/7 on every STG.

>> No.12348828

>>12348760
i don't think mashing the shooting button is a legit gameplay-element anymore in today's STG standards

>> No.12348879

>>12348756
Already have that, too. I think it was MoF 1cc on hard or lunatic, right ?

>> No.12348911

>>12348879
Huh? I thought it was GFW.

I don't remember at the moment.

>> No.12349068

>>12348760
Oldschool shooters have more focus on careful shooting due to limiting the amount of your shots that can be on screen at the same time. Try out Twin Cobra, it's a cool game.

>> No.12349255

>>12348760
Unfortunately that sounds most likely to be found in western stgs.

>> No.12349287

How many games can you no miss no bomb and on what difficulties?

>> No.12350192

>>12349287
0

>> No.12350368

>>12349287
25

>> No.12350561

I'm stuck on Impossible Spell Card, 2nd day stage 1. I can get through most of it but there's this part where there's just this wall of bullets and it's obvious that you're not supposed to be on that side of the screen but I don't know how to stay on the other side without dying/using items.

>> No.12350744

>>12350561

So I just did it since I hadn't played that stage in a bit.

Basically, you have to make it through that wall. It's the last part of the spell card if you've damaged her enough and the only challenging part -unless- you didn't do enough damage.

Just focus on damaging for the easy parts, circle clock-wise, dodge the first two walls with ease and squeeze through the third to finish her off.

I have a replay but I don't think I can upload it anymore yet? Anyway, I hope that helps.

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>>12350561

>> No.12352343

is there a pastebin where i can find downloads of all the games or get introduced to the series? I'm interested and have no idea where to start.

>> No.12352681

>>12352343
You could try google, you can easy find 1~13.
Well, im having problems to find preinstalled versions of TH14 and 14.3.

>> No.12353003

>>12352681
oh they're just in order? Cause I have a torrent for 1-14 and I just wanted to make sure this is all the games for sure.

>> No.12354266

>>12353003
You know, it could be useful if you listed the game the torrent haves or the torrent link.

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12354402

My PoFV won't start up anymore.
I just get this message.
I don't know what the fuck to do.

>> No.12354538

>>12354402
make sure window is selected
ctrl + c
dump into text editor of your choice
save as unicode text document

upload to some online text holder like pastebin
give us the link

OR

just dump into google translate

>> No.12354593

http://pastebin.com/3YxbXbky

>> No.12354597

Oops
>>12354593
>>12354538

>> No.12354638

>>12354597
>>12354593
> DirectSound has been successfully initialized
>Pad that can be used does not seem to exist, sorry
>It seemed DirectPlay as if it were successfully initialized
>error: data file does not exist
Mess around with your settings in custom, and make sure you still have all the right data files.

>> No.12354639

>>12348760
Twinkle Star Sprites.

>> No.12354707

so I just played PoFV and was wondering, do I actually have to mash shoot because if charges when i hold it? D:

>> No.12354773

>>12354707
Yes.

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>>12354638
Running the English patch again got it working but I lost all my scores and progress.
It's fucking weird though the game was working perfectly fine last night and the non-patched version was still working.

Oh well, time to unlock Eiki again I suppose.

>> No.12354818

>>12354773
thats annoying :s thanks for answering

>> No.12355097

>>12354818
Don't mash it, you only need to tap it at a moderate rate to shoot continuously. You shouldn't actually shoot continuously in most circumstances anyway.

>> No.12355154

>>12354266
sorry

http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=465048&showfiles=1

>> No.12355177

>>12355154
It is missing touhou 14.3

>> No.12355216

>>12355177
but that's it right? everything before that is there?

>> No.12355258

>>12355216
Looks like it, but HM probably will need an update patch.

>> No.12355316

>>12355258
why do you say that and where could I find one?

>> No.12355347

>>12329117
so i started with touhou 6,always on lunatic
so far i can get to cirino's second spell card before i lose
should i work on hard or something?
i really like lunatic but i need ways of improving

>> No.12355357

>>12355316
I think I used the same torrent a while ago.

http://www.tasofro.net/touhou135/
>>12355347
If you play on hard after Lunatic, it will feel easier, but you'll probably improve in the long run if you actually make it farther and need to deal with different bullet patterns or stages.

Alternatively, use continues to get stages into stage practice and use that.

Also, do you know about focusing (pressing shift) and bombing (x)? I would assume you already know, but better safe than sorry.

>> No.12355367

>>12355357
Yeah,i know
However,i never know when to use the bombs.
i don't wanna waste them.

i guess i'll use continues for practice

>> No.12355374

>>12355367
Bombing is your "I am uncomfortable" button. Use a bomb when you think you are going to get hit, or when you are about to get hit. You can also deathbomb by bombing right as you get hit, but that requires pretty good reflexes relative to a beginner.

>> No.12355382

>>12355357
thanks hun

>> No.12355386

>>12355374
i guess that is the best time.
thanks,i'll go train

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12356193

Dudes, what's a revenge bullet?

>> No.12356275

>>12356193
If that's another term for suicide bullet, then it's one the enemy shoots when you kill it. Otherwise, I have no idea.

>> No.12356308

Will I ever be good?

>> No.12356399

>>12356308
Maybe

>> No.12356520

>>12356193
>>12356275
"Suicide" bullet is a dumb term western STG players use. Revenge bullets are what sensible people would call them.

>> No.12356574

>>12355357
not that guy but how do I patch it with this link?

>> No.12356579

>>12356574
Scroll down to the embedded video of HM and click the download link beneath it.

>> No.12356990 [DELETED] 

TH06 won't work. What patch do I need for it

>> No.12359737

How do you capture Terrifying Hypnosis on Lunatic? The lasers throw me off when I try to dodge through the yellow bullets and even if I make it through I get hit by the line of large bullets or the lasers.

>> No.12360073

Could someone please watch a replay of mine and give me some advice?

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=34204

>> No.12360272

>>12359737
From memory I think if you go against the laser spin the big bullets won't hit you. Let lasers collect on you until the last moment.

>> No.12361495

>>12355347
Are you me? Same situation except I haven't managed to get pass stage 3 yet.

>> No.12362551

>>12360073
You need to practice the game more. There are no major bad places I feel like pointing out specially, just sit down and learn the game.

Some attacks (mostly nonspells) become easier when you unfocus to destroy the familiars that have relatively low health first.

Unless you're hugging the boss, try to always resort to Youmu's bomb as it deals more damage.

>> No.12364719

Seija's table flipping is still the nuisance as ever. Might actually try and see if I can get a full upside down clear on Normal for any game.

>> No.12364817

When will Zun make a game with larger, more varied enemies and intricate stage portions? Even something as simple as bosses using attacks during the stage as you give chase after the mid-stage encounter.

>> No.12364826

>>12364817
So, SA.

>> No.12364834

>>12364826
Not even close. Far too tame.

>> No.12364848

>>12364817
I don't know man. He's been making the same game since SoEW. Other than the bit of ground interaction the PC98 games have.

>> No.12364944

Holy SHIT.
Fuck Satori.

I've been grinding at stage four for the last two hours now I can't get past her last fucking spell. Still only on normal too. This is infuriating.

>> No.12364963

>>12364944
Switch shot types.

>> No.12365078

>>12364944
>grinding
There's your problem. Start from the beginning instead of continuing and your increased skills will leave you with enough lives and bombs to get past her. Repeat until you beat the game. Or, go full Gus and use savestates and memorize replays to win in half the time. But did you get any better at stgs?

>> No.12365916

Is there a consensus on what the hardest STG boss of them all is?

>> No.12365934

>>12364834
and it's still the best the stage has to offer...

>> No.12365940

>>12365916
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQZuidKexBQ
THE HARDEST lmbao

>> No.12366087
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I never knew cirno was a drug addict until i listened to cirno's perfect math class

http://p.pomf.se/4061

>> No.12366147

>>12365916
Perhaps Inbachi, currently. As far as I know even with the 360 port there isn't a method to handle it very well.

>> No.12366494

Are there any STGs with actual interesting patterns besides touhou ? Every other game just basically has the same kind of patterns as each other, and most don't even bother making varied bullet colours. I've still yet to find another game with patterns as good as touhou, even though I'd really like to.

>> No.12366558

>>12366494
Try Ketsui

>> No.12366626

>>12366494
Crimzon Clover has interesting patterns in my opinion.

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>>12365078
But if I do that I'm not being challenged with new and harder patterns, nor am I actually getting better at stage four, I'm simply granted more room to fail. Stage one and two are a joke anymore, three may take a life but that's it.

>>12364963
Not sure why that didn't occur to me.

Also update, just glad I unlocked it for practice mode now at least.

>> No.12366928

Touhou 14 is now on Playism Japan, meaning an english release is a possibility.
I don't know how to feel about that.

>> No.12366956

>>12366928
He's expressed that he's going to do it and has posted a screenshot of an engrish custom.exe previously. It's clearly coming, and the choice of playism only enforces that.

What likely won't happen is a translation of the dialogue and whatnot. ZUN already knows there are fan translation patches, he isn't the kind of person to leave his writing work to anyone else, yet he would know that his english is poor enough that he wouldn't be able to translate it well enough himself. If anything it'll be the bare minimum translation such as the game manual and customization. That's what's expected.

>> No.12366964

>>12366829
So you're going in with like, 7 lives and still failing early? If you got to her last spell with only three lives then you were already good enough to get past stage 4 normally.

>> No.12367091

>>12366964
I mean I could, but I don't see the point in replaying the stages I know I can easily clear if I'm gonna get smashed later on. It makes more sense to at least be consistently clearing stage five with continues so when I do attempt a 1cc run I'll actually have a chance to get to stage six with a reserve of lives.

>> No.12367344

>>12366829
>>12366956
>>12364944
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=34226

>> No.12367675

>>12367091
So you're one of those faggots.
http://pastebin.com/deNZ6S1q

>> No.12367764

>>12367675
>one must foster a contempt for reality and other virtual worlds.
Jesus is some of this delusional. I just want to beat SA before I decide if schmups are for me or not, not go on some abysmal life changing journey. Also pulling an entire mindset out of my idea of efficiency is a pretty sweeping generalization dude.

>> No.12367769

>>12367675
Every time I read this it gets sillier.

>> No.12367861

>>12329117
Such
Terrible
Game

>> No.12367945

>>12367861
Goes without saying for the shmup genre.

>> No.12368247

Newfriend here, with which game should I start?

>> No.12368289

>>12368247
EoSD and PCB.

>> No.12368294

>>12368289
Thank you.

>> No.12369018

>>12365940
You mean this?
http://youtu.be/8tz_fViahnA?t=34m39s

>> No.12371217

I must be a shmup hipster for refusing to play 2hu and only playing CAVE games.

>> No.12371237

>>12371217
You're just an idiot.

>> No.12371290

ITT your favourite CAVE character and why you hate Touhou.

My favourite CAVE character is Purple Ship Type-B and I hate Touhou for its shameless exploitation of the secondary fanbase.

>> No.12371515

>>12371290
>>>/v/

>> No.12371859

I'm not on /jp/ often, so I don't know if this is acceptable behavior, but would anyone mind looking at a replay of mine and critiquing it? I want to get better at the 2hus. http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=34244

>> No.12371980

Doe anyone know why my Extra stages keep randomly locking? It just happened with Subterranean Animism, I boot up the game, it freezes for about 2 seconds before the loading screen, then when it comes up the Extra stage is locked and everything in the music menu is hidden as if I hadn't even touched the game. However my scores are still there and I can play any stages I've beaten in stage practice, and replacing my scorefile with a recent backup doesn't fix it. This has happened with MoF and UFO as well.

>> No.12372009

>>12371980
Your game is probably corrupted.

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12372560

>tfw I finally figured out how to add custom artwork in Mame
>tfw SH3 emulation is actually decent with the correct settings

I'm going to clean it up a bit later but I'm happy 2/3rd of my screen isnt just black borders anymore.

>> No.12372596

What should I do in Divine Treasure "Brilliant Dragon Bullet" and Divine Treasure "Jeweled Branch of Hourai -Dreamlike Paradise-"? I'm playing on hard, if that matters.

>> No.12372609

>>12372560
Who are you quoting?

>> No.12372640

>>12372609
Come on, give him a break. He just got here.

/jp/ — Come for the 4chan meet up, stay for Touhou!

>> No.12372666

>>12372596
For Dragon Bullet, the beams fire in cascades made up of groups of three, with two groups crossing in the very middle. The cascades are the same every time, with the only difference being origin positions, so you just need to familiarize yourself with where the beams cross and you should be good.

Hourai Jewel is just streaming, you start on one side of the screen then slowly move to the other while avoiding the barrages of round bullets. When you're beginning to near the wall, look for an opening, and after the volley of bullets has fired quickly move to the wall in order to create an opening, then repeat the process in the other direction. It's tricky the first time you do it but easy after you get the hang of it, I could upload a replay of it if you have trouble.

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Got my Oculus Rift DK2 today, so I played through this on normal. It was fairly easy because of autobombing and shield feature, I had 3 lives left at the end of the game, the same amount you start with.

A fun little game. Have to try the other difficulties next.

>> No.12372745

>>12372596
For Dragon Bullet, stay at the bottom when the big colourful beam are falling, then go back up to avoid the slower balls, then go back down again before the next wave of beams.
For Hourai Jewel, make sure you have the sound effects turned on, because you can restream it right after the sound effects play when the bullets bounce of the wall to be aimed at you.

>> No.12372765

>>12372731
Have you tried the 3d EoSD fangame? When I played it, all I could think of was how much I wanted depth perception.

>> No.12372772

>>12372765
Not yet, I didn't know it existed. I literally unboxed these 3 hours ago and just tried a few things. The Suwako game and some demo where you can put your head in a girl's lap. Those were both downloadable at the Oculus main site.

Thanks for the tip-off.

>> No.12372782
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12372782

Just got my first hard 1CC, in IN. I was so excited that I fucked up all the last spells.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=34250
>>12372666
>>12372745
Thanks for the advice, I would still like the replays.

I am >>12360073
by the way.

>> No.12372878

>>12372782
Congratulations on your first Hard 1CC, here's the replays, they're from Lunatic in case you want to go for it.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=34252
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=34253

>> No.12373282

>>12372560
What exact settings are you using? I've gotten SH3 emulation to work decently enough for me, but I'm wondering if it can be better.

>> No.12376545

>>12364963
this. Join the ReimuC master race.

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EoSD shouldn't be limited to 3 continues, in my secondary opinion.

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Cute aircraft with an optical reflective shield based particle acceleration fields.

>> No.12377314

>>12372782
congrajamalations

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Damn, I try to get into playing some hard mode after a few normal and extra 1ccs. Picking UFO hard was a fucking mistake, I'm even having trouble with Ichirin. This is a nightmare.

>> No.12383849

>>12379767
switch to IN.

>> No.12384589

Is there a useful safespot for Benevolent Orleans Dolls ? Is it even static ?

>> No.12385167
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Mystic Square 1cc

>> No.12385492

>>12384589
>Is it even static?
It's randomly rotated.

>> No.12386925

Should I buy eXceed 2nd or 3rd?
Both is not an option.

>> No.12386931

>>12386925
2 is pretty much Ikaruga, I like 3 better a little

>> No.12386946

>>12386931
>I like 3 better a little
Any reasons why?

>> No.12387057
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More boss rush.

>> No.12387360

Anyone here ever played Mamorukun Curse? The fuck am I supposed to do to no miss the final boss. The first phase is harder than the second.

>>12348760
Hellsinker has like 4 different shots for each sub-type. If you're going for scoring you're going to have carefully use all 4 in different circumstances.

Mamorukun also has you abusing curse meter to chain as well as survival for screen clearing.

>> No.12390545

How do I capture 'charming siege from all sides'?

>> No.12390573

>>12390545
It's fairly hard. The difficulty largely depends on Ran's movement, which is random. Getting close to the bubble bullets is much better than getting near the bullet lines. The bubbles are more lenient and are predictable, unlike the lines that can quickly close in on you.

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I didn't expect this run; far cleaner execution than I had anticipated (although not without mistakes obviously). I'll be polishing up the route and work on further consistency as well as optimization on some of the bigger grazes.

>> No.12392362

So if I was interested in watching superplays where would I go about finding them? Touhou it's relatively easy but other games seems impossibly hard to find.

>> No.12393550

it feels so great to beat your first danmaku
i've gotten 6 endings on normal on pofv, i can see myself getting better each time, anons in here are playing the hardest games on lunatic though, kudos to you

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>>12391261
>easy

>> No.12393941

>>12393741
It's a good thing I'm 11 and therefore an elementary schooler, otherwise it would be embarrassing, indeed.

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>>12393941
>I'm 11

>> No.12393975

>>12393941
Watch out, mods might take you serious.

>> No.12393981

>>12393941
cute little girl that are 11 shouldn't be here. go make some love with your onii-chan.

>> No.12394099

>>12393981
i happen to be 13 and i have a 9 year old sister, what do i do /jp/?

>> No.12394141

>>12394099
heres what you do
play with you're little sister all day, then when it's her bedtime, make her some tea, tuck her in, read her a bedtime story, and then fuck her right in the pussy

>> No.12394972

I've been wanting to play more Touhou lately.

So I played DDC on lunatic. I got to stage 3 ONCE... (I played for like an hour? or more?)

But hey that's almost as good as I do in Ikaruga on normal.

>> No.12394978

>>12356520
>>12356193
Is there a dictionary for this stuff? I know the terms in Japanese (撃ち返し、チョン避け、自機狙い、奇数弾、偶数弾) and it really annoys me when I try to talk about them in English.

>> No.12395403

>>12394978
There's one here:
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=9665
Some terms are used more than others, should be mostly accurate despite not being edited in a while.

>> No.12401471

How easy/difficult is Kaguya in comparison to the other stage 6 bosses?

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>>12401471
Harder than most, but probably not the hardest.

>> No.12401512

>>12401471
One of the easiest, only 3 actually difficult spells and easy memotrash otherwise

>> No.12402409

>>12401471
With bombs? Just learn Hourai Jewel.
Without bombs? Just learn Hourai Jewel.

>> No.12405261

>>12401471
One of the hardest if not the hardest.

>> No.12405268

http://strawpoll.me/2402592

>> No.12405361

>>12405268
Everybody lurks and few post.

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>>12405268

>Kaguya's difficulty

What difficulty are we even talking about? When I voted I was thinking about how Kaguya was a cakewalk compared to other ST6 bosses on Lunatic.

>> No.12405386

>>12405368
It's also important to consider what standard. It hasn't been specified whether it's based on scoring, no miss, no bomb, regular clear, whatever.

>> No.12405721

>>12405368
She's not a cakewalk compared to other ST6 bosses on Lunatic. The fact that she has 14 boss attacks already makes her the longest fight.

She also isn't as controllable as some fights (Kanako, Utsuho). Her first five attacks are have fairly difficult danmaku compared to most other final bosses, and are highly reliant on RNG. In addition to that, you have to memorize multiple other attacks and approaches.

When scoring comes into question, she's one of the two final bosses with lengthy scoring milks, and you have to unfocus on the patterns you don't milk down and graze, some of which are the most random ones.

I myself consider her the second hardest, after Remilia, and before Byakuren.

>> No.12405850

>>12405721
Are you including her non-spells in that? How can you possibly think those are hard?

>> No.12405937

>>12405850
Since they are difficult to do consistently on full runs, when there is pressure behind you. The Japanese going for their 6 Billion runs fail or safety bomb some nonspells at times.

Also, since we're comparing them to the other boss's nonspells, I can only think of a single more difficult final boss nonspell, which is Byakuren's second. Touhou 14 not included, since I haven't played it enough to have formed a solid opinion on patterns.

Let's see you time out the first three Kaguya nonspells on the same run, then.

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>>12405937

Just tried doing this in practice mode. I died once on her 2nd and third non-spell. I captured her 1st and 4th. Her non-spells are incredibly easy. In a legit run they should easily be captured. This was just my 1st try too.

Would you like to see it?

Captcha: ithtter accomplished

>> No.12406469

>>12405937
Her first one isn't too hard when you know it's designed to trap you, her third one is quite random but usually not too difficult, and her fourth is really easy. Her second is probably the hardest. Her nonspells are still harder than most though (Remilia's second and third, Utsuho's first, Yuyuko's last...), but the difficulty with Kaguya mostly come from her spell cards, not her nonspells.

>> No.12406781

Can you NMNB Kaguya with all spells captured, /jp/?

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>>12406781
No.

>> No.12406824

>>12406124
I'd like to see you not die to them at all. I'm also a bit curious that which final boss non-spells do you consider more difficult than hers.

The fourth nonspell, though, is easy, I never said otherwise.

>> No.12406845

to me a stage 6 boss is only as difficult as his final spell, which you just can't bomb aside. Due to this I think that Kanako, Remilia and Kaguya are much more diffucult than Utsuho, Yuyuko and so on.

>> No.12406850

>>12406469
If you misdirect her second non-spell, then it becomes really easy. Her non-spells are only hard because they aren't just some simple streaming pattern. They're no more difficult than Miko's non-spells.

And Kaguya's spell cards aren't any worse than the spread of difficulty in most other stage 6 bosses. The problem is just that Hourai Jewel is such a non-factor that it's hard to compare bosses that have difficult final cards for most Lunatic players to her.

>> No.12406931

>>12406781
It would be harder to NMNB with no spells captured.

>> No.12406945

>>12406850
The second nonspell becomes easier if you misdirect it, but it's still fairly dense and random compared to what most other nonspells are.

Miko's nonspells are slower, more predictable, easier to read and have less variation than Kaguya's.

I don't see Hourai Jewel as a non-factor. It's in essence similar to LFS, as it's about manipulating the enemy pattern and memorizing a path that works. It becomes very difficult and straining when you want to graze and PoC it. Kaguya also has five more spells after it, including Rising World which is another random burst of fast and dense danmaku.

I don't know what are these so difficult cards for most Lunatic players. Are talking about people who work on no bomb runs or first clears, or those actively scoring on Lunatic? I can only think of Scarlet Gensokyo, and VoWG, but the latter is very manageable once you have practiced it. It's a good attack, though.

>> No.12406960

The three final bosses that World Record replays most commonly make mistakes on are Remilia, Kaguya and Yuyuko.

Just saying.

>> No.12407035

>>12406945
Miko's nonspells are really easy to fat finger, which is pretty much also the only way to screw up Kaguya's first few nons. Once you've played against Sakuya a few times, Kaguya's first non feels really easy by comparison.

Hourai Jewel's memorization is much easier than LFS though because you can use the coloring of the bullets to your advantage.

If you're only talking about scoring, then Kaguya is really hard. Probably one of the hardest. Not too difficult for survival though.

>> No.12407067

>>12406960
Aren't those also more contested then the others?

>> No.12407087

>>12407035
>Miko's nonspells are really easy to fat finger
I disagree. Could be just me, but I think it's the general verdict on them.

>Once you've played against Sakuya a few times, Kaguya's first non feels really easy by comparison.
Sakuya isn't a final boss.

>Hourai Jewel's memorization is much easier than LFS though because you can use the coloring of the bullets to your advantage.
I think the sound effects play a much larger role. I used to be a lot more consistent at LFS than I ever was with Hourai Jewel. Again, could be just me.

>> No.12407094

>>12407067
MoF is the most popular one.

Beyond that, there are a few good and active players for every game.

>> No.12407098

>>12407094
>MoF is the most popular one.
I honestly did not expect that.

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>>12407205
Base template, if you want to make other templates.

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Touhou is too hard

>> No.12407260
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Why don't you play a real shmup?

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>> No.12407272

>>12407260
Alright, show me that world record run.

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No huge differences between the different categories so I didn't fill them.
Also th13 never happened.

>> No.12407410

Two tries, first one being unfocused but I died twice to the second non trying that.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=34343
The second nonspell feels rather claustrophobic, but that might just be since it's been very long since I last played this stage without pressing X and C.

I think arguing whether Kaguya is a hard boss or not a hard boss is irrelevant, since we all agree on her being a shit boss.

>> No.12407423

>>12407410
>since we all agree on her being a shit boss.
I think Eirin is shittier.

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Kaguya is pretty annoying I guess.

>> No.12407442

>>12407430
sugoi score dude congrats

>> No.12407452

>>12407423
Yeah well, the door is that way.

>> No.12407456

>>12407227
The struggle

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>>12407410
>since we all agree on her being a shit boss
I don't agree with you.

>> No.12407501

>>12407452
Eirin pls

>> No.12407620

So the next thread challenge is going to be Kaguya No Miss attempts right

>> No.12407888

>>12407620
yes please

>> No.12407898

>>12407888
trips confirmed it

>> No.12408124

>>12407094
>>12407098
No, VoWG is the most popular. Kanako a shit otherwise.

>> No.12408369

>>12408124
http://score.royalflare.net/th10/levelchar10.html

>> No.12408509

>>12407430
Congratulations. A fantastic score, don't give up!

>> No.12408519

>>12407430
pretty annoying and that is where you stop!

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>>12407205
I chose difficulty for some scoring categories according to what I think how hard the last boss may be, since I obviously haven't played them all. So some things may be disagreeable here and there.

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>> No.12408947

>>12408935
upvoted :^)

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>>12407205
I did my best. I've never even played DDC on Normal or Hard so not a clue there.

>> No.12409157

>>12408369
what does this have anything to do with that discussion

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>>12406824

I NMNB timed-out her first 3 non-spells. This time it took me around 15 or so tries.

In this same run I no-focused "Imperishable Night's End Half Past 2" and "Imperishable Night's End Rising World".

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=34346

>Kaguya
>Difficult

>> No.12409944

>>12409239
>15 tries
Now just imagine doing the same thing with other bosses like Remilia. It would only take a couple of attempts.

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newb coming through.

my 1st clear of SA extra just now. i had been trying for 3 weeks, and today cleared it on the 1st attempt. the last 2 spells wrecked 5 lives and was bombing like crazy and missed a few bomb. 120 attempts, around.

>> No.12410145

>>12410006
That's a crazy amount of tries to clear it, but congrats anyway !

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1 Billion. It's a start, right ?

>> No.12410932

>>12409157
They asked for the most contested game. MoF is the game with most players. Read the posts you're replying to again.

>> No.12411010

>>12410006
Congrats!

>>12410855
Yes. Congratulations!

>> No.12411023

>>12410006
>>12410855
Congrats.

>> No.12412753

Does anyone have a list of the fairies that drop life and bomb spirits in Ten Desires? I always end up activating my meter at the wrong time and missing out on them.

>> No.12412782

>>12412753
It literally takes one playthrough or replay to find out.

>> No.12412795

>>12412782
I haven't played in a while and never payed attention the first time, so I guess I'll have to watch a replay or something then.

>> No.12413311

>>12410932
Uh, did they?
>The three final bosses that World Record replays most commonly make mistakes on are Remilia, Kaguya and Yuyuko.
>Aren't those [bosses] also more contested then the others?
>MoF [Kanako] is the most popular one.
Hence the "No, VoWG is the most popular. Kanako a shit otherwise."

This might be my mistake, but when did the discussion turn to popularity of scoring in the games in general, and not the difficulty of the bosses, which we've been talking about ever since someone mentioned Kaguya's difficulty?

>> No.12413330

>>12412753
http://pastebin.com/bgfBdM4Y

Here I wrote this a long time ago close to when the game first came out. Ended up being pretty useless (and there are several mistakes on it too), but maybe you'll get some use out of it.

>> No.12413546

>>12413311
Kanako is the most contested since MoF is the most contested. The other games are fairly equal in amount of players.

>> No.12413555

>>12413330
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=33962
Every spirit tranced. Due to mistakes and dumb play, I wasn't able to clear.

It's obviously just a silly shenanigans run and nothing good for someone who wants a normal run out of the game, but perhaps you're interested in it.

>> No.12413572

Are there any general tips to clearing TD? Also, while I am asking, when should I use trance, and what exactly does it do?

>> No.12413587

>>12413555
I hate to say it, but at this point I've played TD enough to have the location of every spirit etched into my soul, even though I haven't played it for almost a year now. I'm not sure I want to spend any more time on TD.

>>12413572
Just learn a trancing route and trance/bomb your way to victory. Trance makes you invincible for 10 seconds and doubles the amount of bomb/life pieces you get when you collect bomb/life spirits in trance mode. Also some scoring stuff that probably isn't relevant to you. To know when to trance, just look up someone's replay. And yes, it does break the game in two.

>> No.12413604
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>tfw my reaction time will never be good enough to beat any of the 2hu games
>tfw i will forever be a filthy gaijin secondary

i'm quoting my feelings

>> No.12413616

>>12413604
As a former secondary, I say you're better off that way. The games are nothing but suffering, the true meaning of hell, and every run I long for the days of innocence to return.

>> No.12413625

>>12413604
It's funny how you think touhou is all about reaction time when it's really only a thing for a few patterns that can be easily bombed through.

>> No.12413647

>>12413625
I've been trying to play EoSD and can't master any of these post stage 3 "patterns" for shit.

>> No.12413651

>>12413625
>bombing through easy patterns
>not grazing
Its like you hate points

>> No.12413691

>>12413647
The stage portions in EoSD stage 4-6 are practically all memo. The bosses have several difficult patterns, but you should have plenty of resources going in.

>>12413651
It's like you've never played ReimuA in SA or UFO at all.

>> No.12413715

>>12413691
ReimuA isn't the shot in UFO that bombspams patterns for graze.

>> No.12413736

>>12413715
He didn't necessarily say she was.

>> No.12413741

>>12413715
Eh I was unclear. Probably "never played UFO or ReimuA in SA" would be better. Kind of ruins the retort though.

>> No.12415307

I really want to get behind Icycalm's paywall, will you kickstart me, /jp/?

>> No.12416648

>>12415307

>get behind paywall

might as well bring down the whole sight lmao

>> No.12416799

>>12416648
please explain this joke to me I have been trying to figure it out for the past 30 minutes and I still do not understand it

your help is much appreciated, thank you

>> No.12416800

>>12416648
>>12416799
me too, pls explain

>> No.12416804

>>12416799
>>12416800

The paywall *is* culture.vg, if you cracked the paywall you'd have everything.

>> No.12416810 [DELETED] 

>>12416799
checked :^)

>> No.12416811 [DELETED] 

>>12416800
nice dubs

>> No.12416815

>>12416799
The joke is you just paid for worthless content.

>> No.12416820

>>12416815

It's the most worthwhile content on the entire internet pertaining to videogames. The worthless content is here on 4chan.

>> No.12416820,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>12416811
gonna have to re:check myself

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>>12416820
>It's the most worthwhile content on the entire internet pertaining to videogames.

>> No.12416842

>>12416804
>>12416815
thank you for the explanations

>> No.12416845

>>12416820
That's not Orgy of the Will.

>> No.12416849

>>12416845

That site isn't about videogame

>> No.12417445

>>12416820
-5/10

>> No.12417596
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blaze it

>> No.12418247

Why's the minions bullets in Primsriver and Youmu stage is so fucking ball crushing. It would always succeed in making me spend 1-4 bombs each stage.

>> No.12418275

>>12418247
Most are either static or aimed, so when you find a consistent route, you can get really good at it and almost never fail. if you're having trouble finding your own, try watching replays so that you can use someone else's.

>> No.12418284

>>12418275
I've been trying to 1cc PCB all day. Is it acceptable to max out the starting player lives or am I had to grit my teeth and play with the default lives on?

>> No.12418789

>>12418284
Default lives if you care about what other people think. It isn't really a 1cc otherwise.

>> No.12419487
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Died to Sanae and failed some spells. Stage portions were "what am I doing I don't remember this"

>> No.12423049

>>12419487
Congrats

>> No.12425118

So I'm playing Cherry Blossom for the first time after beating IN and for some reason when I shoot it puts me into focus fire.Focused movement is already bound to another button (does not make me shoot, just movement). I checked the config and there is no "Focus while firing " option like in MoF. This seems to be the case with 3 downloads I've tried of the game. Anyone know whats up?

>> No.12425137

>>12425118
>I checked the config
It's in the KeyConfig, yo.

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First PCB hard 1cc.

>> No.12430692

please do not fall off the catalog.

>> No.12430715
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Is a NMNB of a stage 6 still kinda impressive if it's on normal ?

>> No.12430734

>>12430715
only kinda
It's like doing a 1cc with increased starting lives

>> No.12430794

>>12430715
It all depends on the point of view. For some people, yes. For others, not.

>> No.12430839

>>12430715
It included all of Kaguya's Last Spells by the way.

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>>12430899

>> No.12431252
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>> No.12431668

>>12425118
stop downloading the game

>> No.12433736

>>12425118
download the game more times

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>>12415307
Does Alex post on /jp/?

>> No.12433934

>>12430899
Also a curve for the quality of the OST

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>>12433932
Nice font rendering.

>> No.12434019

>>12433934
china and cirno both have perfectly cromulent boss-fight music

>> No.12435015

>>12430839
Does it counterstop the spell bonus on the 4th?

>> No.12435227

>>12426985
congrats man

very proud of you

>> No.12435229

>>12419487
good score man

>> No.12435230

>>12417596
nice

epic

i like it

>> No.12435986

>>12435015
How does one counterstop a spell bonus ?

>> No.12436028

>>12435986
IN's spell bonuses cap at certain values. For survival spells and Last Words, the cap is the highest, at 99,999,990 points. You can hit that cap with the fourth last spell.

>> No.12436271

>>12436028
Oh, right. No, I hadn't ever tried doing that before, so I did just now and I've learnt the safespot and the timing to get out afterwards, but I still end up with around 88 000 000. Does shooting unfocused actually add to the spell bonus, since I've noticed it gives you time during her last spells ?

>> No.12436345

>>12436271
You can dodge it nonhorizontally for extra time. It's ridiculously difficult.

>> No.12436623

What do you guys do to cool down after playing a lot?

>> No.12436727

>>12436623
Drink water, wipe away any sweat, if I am hungry, eat something with carbs, stretch.

>> No.12436745

>>12436623
Masturbate to naked touhous.

>> No.12437344

>>12436623
play some kanc

>> No.12437636

>>12329117
EoSD was holocausting my ass for first few days.
PCB in comparision is quite easy.

>> No.12437649

>>12436745
>tfw Touhou made me stop fapping
Interesting for how long.

>> No.12440799

How do I deal with Remilia's non spells, and her second to last card?

>> No.12440826

>>12440799
The nonspells are all very simple, try them out a bit to figure the general pattern, or just watch a replay. Bomb the second to last card.

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>>12440799
For the first non, start in the middle (both vertically and horizontally), like that you'll never get trapped.
For her second, she starts with aimed shots, so start to the side, then move under her when she's finished. The second two volleys are in a fan shape, so just stay under her until she shoots straight down, avoid that, then go back there.
Her third is stupidly easy; dodge one knife and you've dodged them all (out of that wave).
For her last non, the first part is actual dodging, and the bubbles and flames are just streaming.
For Scarlet Meister, you want to start to her left or right, then as she shoots, dash to the other side, then quickly dodge the stray bullets before she fires the second wave. The just repeat that.

>> No.12441062

When I play really decent I get nervous and make extremely stupid mistakes which cost me the run most of the time. Ahhhhhhhh

>> No.12441169

>>12441062
That's most people at first. You'll get jaded from fucking up by doing that often, and when that happens, you'll start actually getting good.

>> No.12441256

We are on page 9.

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>> No.12442115

>>12441310
Nice work.

Now play PCB.

>> No.12442174

we are on page ten.

>> No.12443267

>>12442174
>>12441256
Thanks for the info, I appreciate it a lot

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>>12441256
>>12442174
>>12443267

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