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12390746 No.12390746 [Reply] [Original]

Why can't boys use watashi? It's cuter than boku and ore. I want to use watashi but not seem like a sissy faggot queer-boy when I do it, it's not fair.

>> No.12390751

Watashi-sama is the only opinion.

>> No.12390752 [DELETED] 

Watashi is more syllables than the others

>> No.12390757

Pretty sure you can do that as a foreigner.

>> No.12390762

>>12390746
If you want to sound cute, chances are you're a sissy faggot queer-boy.

>> No.12390763

Doesn't boku make you look gay. That seems right up your alley.

>> No.12390767 [DELETED] 

>>12390757

I wonder how gaijin would get treated if they walked around acting like second-class citizens all the time. Bowing unnecessarily to everyone, speaking always in a lower voice than the other person, using feminine words, avoiding direct eye contact, etc.

>> No.12390775 [DELETED] 

>>12390767

Also, wearing a burqa.

>> No.12390777

>>12390767
Sounds moe.

>> No.12390781

The guy in Tatami Galaxy used watashi

>> No.12390784

>>12390781
Yeh, he's kind of gay.

>> No.12390787

>>12390767
Is that something you want to do?

>> No.12390788

>>12390784
What's gay about wanting a rose coloured life?

>> No.12390810

>>12390788
Roses mean gay in Japanese.

>> No.12390863

You could just become a sissy faggot queer-boy

>> No.12390872

>>12390863
>become
Heh

>> No.12391206

Wait, don't all adults use watashi?

>> No.12391214

>>12390810

[citation needed]

>> No.12391223

I like watashi more too. It's just that my dad was overly masculine and I absolutely hated that so I swore to be a gentle being and not repeat his mistakes.

>> No.12391228

>>12391214

>> No.12391247

>>12391228
atashi

>> No.12391256

>>12390777
Sounds like a loser.

The only real requirement for moe is to be a cute girl, preferable 2D. Anything can be cute then.

>> No.12391287

>>12390767
Why would they speak in a lower voice?

>> No.12391306

Change Starts With YOU.
Stop Rape Culture NOW!

>> No.12391342
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12391342

Only real badass uses watashi.

>> No.12391483

Everyone uses watashi. What the fuck.

>>12390767
>Bowing unnecessarily to everyone
Everyone bows to everyone in the proper setting
>avoiding direct eye contact
That has nothing to do with anything

>> No.12391493

Yeah no, I use atai.

>> No.12391500

>>12391483
Thank you anon-kun! I almost fell into despair thinking that no one knows that simple, basic fact.

>> No.12391521

i want to be a cute ojou-sama and use watakushi

>> No.12391562

Only risk is it's closer to atashi which actually is effeminate
You're stupid

>> No.12391609

>>12390746
Use 'washi'. Problem solved.

>> No.12391730

>>12391247
Look at this baka gaijin who cant wide text

>> No.12391754

>>12391730
I c a n w i d e t e x t . Y o u j u s t n e e d t o p u t o n e s p a c e b e f o r e e a c h c h a r a c t e r . S o e a s y .

>> No.12391772

I use 某, you only #yolo once

>> No.12392072

>>12391772
>#yolo
>>/g/
>>/e/
>>/t/
>>/out/

>> No.12392144 [DELETED] 

>>12392072

U FRUSTRATED U FRUSTRATED BRO U SO MAD WHY ARE YOU SO MAAAAD I CAN POST ANYTHING I WANT THAT IS HOW IT SAYS IN THE RULES I DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR FAGGOTRY RULES Y SO MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD

>> No.12392183

I thought watashi was normal
Although people say I talk like a little gitl...

>> No.12392205

>>12391754
herf

>> No.12392227

>>12392183
That's because you call all your friends oniichan.

>> No.12392257

Despite supposedly being even more polite and humble than watashi, I think watakushi sounds surprisingly respectable.

>> No.12392268

I use わっち.

>> No.12392283
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12392283

>>12391223
Me too dude but I turned out gay.

>> No.12392309

I use 俺 and I only speak 関西弁
めっちゃ楽しいやんけ

>> No.12393756

>>12392309
You will never be Onosaka.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-SfjI-2ERg&t=13m26s

>> No.12394131

>>12391483
>Everyone bows to everyone in the proper setting
Not all the time, I'm the alpha.

>> No.12394218

>>12392183
多分、萌え幼女アニメで話す方習いましたから

>> No.12395810

You are not an anime character, if you actually spend any amount of time conversing in Japanese you'll infa 100% use more than one personal pronoun depending on who/where/when you're talking to.

>> No.12395835

Did you mean
>Why can't boys use atashi?

>> No.12395848

>>12395810
That's true too. It varies depending on the formality of the situation but also on who you are talking to.

>> No.12395921

>>12391483
>Everyone uses watashi. What the fuck.
But not in my Japanese animes!

>> No.12395929

I use it at work... IMO boku sounds gay and I'm too young to throw ore around.

>> No.12396034

>>12392144
>implying I'm mad

>> No.12396585

>>12395929
I think 私 sounds more neutral and 僕 sounds more humble. It just depends on if you've trained your japanese spirit from child enough to want to go around referring to yourself as "servant" in the interest of being modest.

>> No.12396590

If I start using atashi will I get big burly men to rape me?

>> No.12396613

>>12396590
I heard some yakuza bosses and really tough guys use atashi because who the fuck is going to say anything to them? If you're a big guy who looks like he could break someone's legs for making fun of him I say go for it.

>> No.12396623

>>12396585
>>12395929
Also 私 is less strokes so I use it in handwriting because I'm lazy, but using an IME I usually write 僕.

>> No.12396692

>>12396613
But, but I won't be tied up in a basement, forced to wear a dress, and service men until the day I die?

;_;

>> No.12396702

My Japanese teacher in elementary school taught me to say watashi.

>> No.12396707

posting in an unbelievably shit thread

>> No.12396749

>>12396613
>I heard some yakuza bosses and really tough guys use atashi because who the fuck is going to say anything to them?
practically any westener. Japs are like 5' tall, the yakuza is a joke.

>> No.12396756

>>12390746

You're thinking of watakshi, the use of which would *definitely* make you a sissy faggot. Watashi is gender-neutral.

>> No.12396761

>>12396756
I went on /int/ once and Japs told me their women don't use watakushi anymore.

>> No.12396771

>>12396761

All the more reason that watakushi would draw attention to OP's behavior.

>> No.12396909

>>12396756
>>12396761
Nobody uses watakushi except if you want to sound really polite (possibly when representing a company and working with a customer).

>> No.12397068

>>12396909
Does anybody in actual Japan uses "desu wa" like ojou-sama in anime?

>> No.12397094

>>12396761
I play porn games and I can attest that's wrong, I'm sure your Japanese friends didn't meet many blond ojou-samas with drills that ご機嫌麗しゅう'd the fuck out of them in the morning

>> No.12397317

>gender specific personal pronouns
>not one universal set of personal pronouns
Japanese, not even once.

>> No.12397395

>>12397068
Do anime nerd girls count?

>> No.12397398

>>12397317
Who are you quoting?

>> No.12397412

>>12397398
He's quoting his hypocrisy, considering english is a gigantic clusterfuck of inconsistencies.

>> No.12397471

>>12397317
learning them is like .01% the effort it takes to learn the easiest of languages

>> No.12397472

tfw a girl asks you, "なんで「俺」を使わないの?"

>> No.12397492

>>12397472
>not using 我輩

>> No.12397521

>>12397412
English might be as pure as a cribhouse whore, but can't I expect Japanese to be a prim and proper language that is free of ludicrous rules and steaming piles of borrowed words?

>> No.12397537

>>12397521
Pronouns are the easiest part of Japanese. Even weebs with the lowest imaginable level manage to catch them all.

>> No.12397600

>>12397472
あたしは本物の女だから( ´∀`)

>> No.12397621

>>12397521
japanese would be way harder if it didn't borrow from other cultures, like holy shit do you want to learn antiquated units of time and measurement or would you rather use all the same measurements they use in england

>> No.12397631

I say watashi but it sometimes comes out as atashi if I don't speak strongly/loudly enough, which is most of the time.

>> No.12397637

>>12397631
Do you suck dicks?

>> No.12397651

>>12397621
>or would you rather use all the same measurements they use in england
Like what, stones and long tons and shit?

>> No.12397704

>>12397651
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_units_of_measurement

>> No.12398987

Boku is plenty cute, especially since ore is basically becoming the generic male pronoun for young guys.

>> No.12400853

>>12398987
Boku is literally gayer than atashi.

>> No.12400999

You can use Watashi, but only if you have a feminine dick.

>> No.12401008

I'm pretty sure Watashi is a gender neutral word, pretty political correct.

>> No.12401022

>>12401008
Is boku gender neutral too? I hear it a lot in Jap songs.

>> No.12401025

>>12401022
No, but it doesn't mean it's exclusive to guys, it's more masculine, but it works better in a lot of songs rather than watashi.

>> No.12401067

>>12401025
So in what situations do girls use boku? I have only hear it being used by tomboys in anime.

>> No.12401079

>>12401067
Pretty much only then, or when they want to feel slightly bigger than they are, or when they just don't bother using watashi since it is more of a hassle to say.

This is all in my slight experience from reading, watching shows, a little bit of actual conversation, and a bit of reading on japanese language culture.

>> No.12401291

If you're an ore-tier man but use boku, you come out like a really cool guy.

>> No.12402728

So what about anata and all that other shit for "you"? Which do guys say? Which do girls say?

>> No.12402748

>>12402728
Anata is fine to say, but you need to realize that women call their lover anata also.

>> No.12402788

you can pretty much drop any way of saying 'I'. I barely ever say it and don't hear it often either.

only teenage boys say 'ore'.

>> No.12402864

Why don't they just speak English?

>> No.12402893

>>12402728
The person's name, with the applicable honorific depending on the situation and your relationship to them.

Using any second person pronoun is rude in a lot of contexts.

>> No.12402903

>>12402788
>you can pretty much drop any way of saying 'I'. I barely ever say it and don't hear it often either.

Yeah. Saying "I" every sentence is stereotypical gaijin behavior. In Japanese you drop the subject as much as possible, object too.

>> No.12402905

It's either Boku (loser, nice guy)

or

Ore (Alpha)

better yet Waga (god)

>> No.12402917

>>12402864
This is what happens when they try
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhetXL7KmZA

>> No.12402986

>>12402788
Thanks for the advice, I'll randomly switch around between uchi, washi and konata when I do need to use it then

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12403327

Why is everyone in this thread using romaji? It's a clusterfuck and difficult to read.

>> No.12403378

>>12403327
romaji is super fucking easy to read if you grew up reading burger-runes instead of china-runes, all it requires is a minimal degree of listening comprehension

it's even easier than reading pure kana because of the spacing

>> No.12403390

>>12403378
Nah, romaji is a buttfuck. It's easier to read kana. I'd imagine it's easier for the japs to read romaji. Among other things, they won't read it with American pronunciation and wonder what the fuck it's trying to say.

>> No.12403398

>>12403390
is english not your first language? i can't ever imagine processing a foreign alphabet faster than my own just by sheer virtue of that i've spent twenty thousand hours using the english alphabet and probably not even five hundred on kana

>> No.12403399

you can use watashi if you want, it's not only to women, watashi is also used for formal language. so, if you talk everything formally, there's nothing weird in using watashi.

>> No.12403448

>>12403398
>is english not your first language?
I'm a 'murrikan by birth and race

>i can't ever imagine processing a foreign alphabet faster than my own just by sheer virtue of that i've spent twenty thousand hours using the english alphabet and probably not even five hundred on kana
>not even five hundred on kana

There's your problem. learn Jap, abandon romaji. Also I hope you really meant two hundred thousand hours, or you don't know English either. Romaji is a crutch that cripples you instead of helping you get better.

>> No.12403461

>>12403448
i didn't spend twenty hours a day reading books for thirty years, so no, i didn't mean 200,000 hours

>There's your problem. learn Jap, abandon romaji.
mendokusai kara yada

incidentally it was actually only today that i learned that mendou is pretty much written face-fall, i'd never seen it written out the long way before

>> No.12403482

>>12390746
I wanna put down ''w'' and use atashi. I'm so famine...

>> No.12403483

>>12403482
reminder that fat hairy men (and emaciated skeletons) acting cute is just kimochi warui

>> No.12403486

>Being culturally defeated

It's really cool and all to like Japan, it's even fine if you curse yourself for not Japanese. But don't ever pretend to be Japanese when you're not.

>> No.12403494

>>12403486
拙者の大和魂を疑うな

>> No.12403496

>>12403398
>>12403461
>i can't ever imagine processing a foreign alphabet faster than my own just by sheer virtue of that i've spent twenty thousand hours using the english alphabet
Personally, I think that's what makes it harder to read romaji.

I'm so used to reading English that I can't read long strings of romaji properly because my mind tries to read it as English words and I have to constantly stop myself and backtrack or I'll fuck up the pronunciation completely or not even recognize the word at all.

>mendokusai kara yada
Like with what you wrote here. Seeing から written as kara just felt odd and I didn't even draw the connection at first. My mind has a whole different set of memories associated with から that were formed during the time that I've spent studying Japanese and those memories don't get triggered when I see it written in romaji. Same with written Japanese in general, if it's in romaji then I either mispronounce it or I don't recognize any of it unless I close my eyes and say it aloud in my mind and try to rely on my listening comprehension to recall what it means.

>> No.12403497

http://www.tofugu.com/2012/06/21/how-romaji-can-ruin-your-day/

>> No.12403520

>>12403461
>i didn't spend twenty hours a day reading books for thirty years,
What are you, underage or something? I could probably have cleared 20k hours in 5 years of 4chan, let alone all my years of reading stuff at school and in the world and internet in general, and there's still games after that.

>> No.12403828

>>12403496
>Like with what you wrote here. Seeing から written as kara just felt odd and I didn't even draw the connection at first. My mind has a whole different set of memories associated with から that were formed during the time that I've spent studying Japanese and those memories don't get triggered when I see it written in romaji. Same with written Japanese in general, if it's in romaji then I either mispronounce it or I don't recognize any of it unless I close my eyes and say it aloud in my mind and try to rely on my listening comprehension to recall what it means.

You realize this makes you autistic faggot inferioir to all of us who don't have to whine like a little babies and can read both without a problem, right?

>> No.12403920

>>12403327
Really, I'll go with the obvious answer: switching keyboards back and forth takes a whole 4 keys to press.

But honestly, hating on romaji for readings with less than 5 characters is absolutely retarded, even if you wanna be elitist

>> No.12404516

>>12391214
Bara is rose in Japanese, just like yuri is lily in Japanese. Figure the rest out yourself.

>>12391754
top kek

>>12396756
>sissy faggot
That's atashi, not watakushi.

>>12403399
This.

>>12403482
>famine
Starving?

>> No.12404527

>>12404516
But nor bara nor yuri literally mean homosexual, they are just symbolic names.

>> No.12404532

>>12403920
It takes only two. I pity your keyboard configs.

>> No.12404594

I used watashi one time while talking to my girlfriend's mom and she laughed.

I guess men shouldn't use it ;(

>> No.12404618

I like to use Ore only because it's quicker. If I ever have to talk with an important person, I'll use watashi/watakushi.
I wish I were a bit older so I could use Wasshi and walk around molesting women

>> No.12404690

>>12404532
You should, I don't have any. What's your hotkey and how does it not interfere with anything else?

>> No.12405006

>>12403327
Romaji is perfectly fine to read when it's just a single word, stop trying to show off. Now if someone's trying to write whole sentences in it yes it's a fucking pain. But typing out a kana word in the middle of an English sentence is tryhard and takes more time than it's worth.

>> No.12405050

>>12405006
Different poster, but I do find romaji a bit distracting for things like 'ore', which is obviously a word in both languages.

Typing a word in Japanese is only slightly more effort than, say, using a capital letter. 'Effort' is just as much a bullshit argument as the one you're responding to.

>> No.12405056

>>12405006
>takes more time than it's worth.
I just press alt-shift to switch to かな and press it again to switch back to English. It takes maybe two extra seconds.

>> No.12405068

>>12405056
This is /jp/ we are talking about
Expect that every instance that laziness can be enacted, it will happen

>> No.12405072

>>12405050
sentences written in multiple languages look retarded

nobody writes "hamburgerを食べたい" in the japanese even if it's infinitely easier to read hamburger than ハンバーガー

>> No.12405083

>>12405072
ハンバーガー is a Japanese word though, of course it would be stupid to write it in Latin letters in the middle of a sentence. When you're discussing one language in another language it's hard to avoid having mixed-language sentences though. Having the Japanese part of a multi-language sentence written in the Japanese script makes it immediately obvious that it's a Japanese word and that we're discussing the Japanese personal pronoun "俺” and not metal refining.

>> No.12405086

>>12405072
>>12405083
Also I'm not the guy you were replying to.

>> No.12405091 [DELETED] 

>>12405083
>ハンバーガー is a Japanese word though
only because they made it that way

we could make atashi an english word and then it would be totally normal for me to say "atashi am going to the mall" except that would be etarded

at some point in time the first person to not-translate hamburger into the japanese decided it should be ハンバーガー and not hamburger

>makes it immediately obvious that it's a Japanese word and that we're discussing the Japanese personal pronoun "俺” and not metal refining.
well the next time we have a meeting of the japanese-american metallurgical society they'll thank you for it but around it's pretty clear

>> No.12405095

>>12405083
>ハンバーガー is a Japanese word though
only because they made it that way, we could make atashi an english word and then it would be totally normal for me to say "atashi am going to the mall" except that would be retarded

at some point in time the first person to not-translate hamburger into the japanese decided it should be ハンバーガー and not hamburger

>makes it immediately obvious that it's a Japanese word and that we're discussing the Japanese personal pronoun "俺” and not metal refining.
well the next time we have a meeting of the japanese-american metallurgical society they'll thank you for it but around here it's pretty clear

>> No.12405097

>>12405091
>we could make atashi an english word and then it would be totally normal for me to say "atashi am going to the mall"

That's how loanwords work. "Hamburger" is not originally an English word either.

>> No.12405113

real men use watakushi

>> No.12405117

>>12405095
>>12405097
The problem with using hamburger over ハンバーガー is not that it's a loanword. It's that the characters in hamburger are not part of the Japanese script.

We have no problems writing words formed by Latin characters even if they're in a different language (eg. adieu). It's when the words are written with a different set of characters, that's when we take issue.

>>12405113
Yeah, when they're self-deprecating, like Touma.

>> No.12405125

>>12405072
その例は使いものにならないw
もしそうなら「日本語」の話題には、全体の日本語で話してもいいじゃないかね

>> No.12405150

>ハンバーガー is hamburger
>ハンバーグ is hamburger meat

epic, Japan

simply epic

>> No.12405171

>>12405150
no

hamburger = hamburger meat
hambaguu = hamburger meat made by ur wife

>> No.12405188

>>12405117
>It's when the words are written with a different set of characters, that's when we take issue.

And what exactly is the issue? If we were discussing Greek or Russian instead of Japanese I'd expect to see words from those languages and being discussed in the context of their use in those languages written in the Greek or Cyrillic alphabet.

>> No.12405193 [DELETED] 

>>12405188
Or, since I think I phrased that badly:
If we were speaking in Japanese and specifically talking about the word "hamburger" as an English semantic object and its meaning and proper usage, I'd write it as "hamburger". If we were just talking about any old hamburger from McRonalds I'd write ハンバーガー.

>> No.12405196

>>12405188
Or, since I think I phrased that badly:
If we were speaking in Japanese and specifically talking about the word "hamburger" as an English semantic object and its meaning and proper usage, I'd write it as "hamburger". If we were just talking about any old hamburger from McRonalds I'd write ハンバーガー. Because this makes it clear that we're talking about the English word "hamburger" and not the Japanese word "ハンバーガー.".

>> No.12405206

>>12405196
Fair point.

However, regarding the pronouns in this case, the Japanese have different ways of writing them too. I've seen watashi written as 私 and わたし before. For boku I've seen 僕 and ボク; for atashi I've seen both あたし and アタシ.

It could also be romaji being a safe bet as to how to write it, not that it's an absolute thing either (Hepburn, kunrei-shiki, etc).

>> No.12405210

>>12405050
>'Effort' is just as much a bullshit argument as the one you're responding to.
Never mentioned effort. I said it takes more time than it's worth, since it's not worth anything except to show off you beginner Nihongo skills.

>> No.12405215

>>12405150
Who are you quoting?

Also,
>epic, Japan
>simply epic

Stop.

>> No.12405219

>>12405215
I didn't think it would take this long for autism to show up.

>> No.12405221

>>12405206
僕 and ボク both have the same meaning and pronunciation. In short they're the same word, and whether to write it as 僕 or ボク is more of a stylistic choice than a semantic one.

Unrelated: My captcha was just a picture of a pine branch with no words or anything. The fuck, moot?

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>>12390746
Isn't watashi neutral? I thought girls use atashi? I would only refer to myself as ore-sama constantly though.

>> No.12405264

>>12405215
No one cares.

>> No.12405284

>>12405221
>僕 and ボク both have the same meaning and pronunciation. In short they're the same word, and whether to write it as 僕 or ボク is more of a stylistic choice than a semantic one.

To be fair there are plenty of times when it is more appropriate to use one or the other.

>Unrelated: My captcha was just a picture of a pine branch with no words or anything. The fuck, moot?

Me too. Though it's google to blame, not moot.

>> No.12405286

>>12405221
>>12405284
Is there a number you have to fill in?

>> No.12405292

>>12405215
Cool autism!

>> No.12405693

I always use 俺様.

>> No.12405806

Why do Japs have so many ways of saying "I"? What's the purpose?

>> No.12405814

>>12405806
Why does english need to change the verb form depending on the pronoun? What's the purpose?

>> No.12405816

>>12405814
English is just a shitty language filled with irregularities and confusing pronunciation. I expect more from Japs though.

>> No.12406448

>>12402893
I suppose there aren't many Japanese books written in second person, then?

>> No.12406809

>>12405113
Real men use 朕.

>> No.12407589

>>12406809
Funnily enough, if not for Qin Shihuang, I think there'd be a lot more people using 朕.

>> No.12407616 [DELETED] 

>>12406809
Why the hell are dictionaries calling it "we"? Isn't that stupid English royal shit? Doesn't it mean "I"?

>> No.12407643

>>12407616
The original meaning was indeed "I". It's just that English dictionaries treat it as an equivalent of pluralis maiestatis, and so decided to call it "we" instead.

>> No.12411720

>>12406448
There aren't a lot of English books like that either. The only thing I can think of is instruction manuals or something.

>> No.12411779

>>12390746
Maybe if you actually talk to real Japanese instead of netizens and weabs, you'll find out that watashi is acceptable.

You're not anime.

>> No.12411825

>>12406448
They mostly just talk to you without saying "you" because it's possible to do so in Japanese.

So if you're reading some instructions it would be something like "please do XXX," "(you) will receive XXX when," or "mustn't do XXX" where again it is implied that it is the user/reader who "mustn't do."

>> No.12411871

So this topic is genuine proffesional discussion about japanese first-person pronouns, trolling or clash beetwen fans of animesh speak and real life? Becouse I am learning japanese since last year at my university and I do not know if i should start constulting /jp/. It would be great if I could :(

>> No.12411912

>>12411825
>>12402903
Japan sure loves those "hilarious" misunderstandings brought about by being a bunch of vague fucks.

>> No.12411967

>>12411779
You can be anything as long as you believe.

>> No.12412039

>>12405229
> I would only refer to myself as ore-sama constantly though.

Sure,

Only in your basement

>> No.12412078

If smartphone is "スマートフォン", why do they use "スマホ" instead of "スマフォ"?

>> No.12412082

Why is radio ラジオ and not ラヂオ?

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>>12391754
>ITT faggots can’t into alphanumeric roman characters as a result of having Japanese locale installed

関係のないなピクチャー

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>>12412082

>> No.12412095

>>12412082

That's not even a transliteration. Ra di o is ラデぃオ, not Ra dzi o.

Secondly, Radio is rajio because it's one of the many instances of "It's more commonly said for some reason along the lines of being easier to say" or some shit.

>> No.12412312

>>12412078
Due to hs and fs being indistinguishable, ホ can be both "ho" and "fo", thus スマートホン" is valid.

>> No.12412342

>>12405056
Huh for me that switches to French (Canadafag problems) how do I go about replacing French with Japanese? My Japanese is better than my French anyways...

>> No.12412347

>>12412078

"Sumaho" sounds like an R34 alter-ego of Suwako.

I'm gonna go bleach my brain now.

>> No.12412454

>>12412347
sounds more like an abbreviation of super-mahou when you write it that way.

>> No.12412666

>>12401067
Girls use boku when they want to be tomboyish or when they're very young, which is why it can make you look like a sissy.

>> No.12412671

>>12412666
What if a girl uses ore? Will she look like a bulldyke?

>> No.12412716

>>12412671
They don't. Girls also rarely say 僕 except in anime or sometimes in songs where it fits the rhythm better.

>> No.12413102

>>12392072

yolo is jayp culture
misuse of the quoting feature is not

>> No.12413516

>>12411720
>>12411825
Gamebooks, for one.

If it's an instruction manual where they don't even use "you", I don't really think it counts as being written in second person.

>> No.12415265

I am a girl and I say Boku.

>> No.12415287

Because they can?

>> No.12415294

>>12405806
Most languages have same thing excluding English.

>> No.12415466

So wtf is up with 私のこと and similar?

>> No.12415480
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>>12415265

Hey, I'm a girl too!

>> No.12415521

>>12415294
I suggest going with the first 5 non-English-Japanese speaking countries that have the highest amount of traffic on 4chan and illustrating your point with at least 5 different ways to say "I" and a nice number of ways to pronounce some of them.

>> No.12415529

>>12415294
None of the romance languages have that, and they constitute a ridiculously huge number of speakers in the world.

>> No.12415578

>>12390746
>typical weeb who doesn't know Japanese

Please stop trying to talk about languages you can't speak.

>> No.12415705

>>12415466
it's something you develop a certain feeling for.

>> No.12415829

>>12415466
It's self explanatory



こと

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>>12415265
I am a girl and I say Watakushi.

>> No.12416012

>>12415993
Are you an ojou-sama?

>> No.12416386

>>12415993
>Watakushi
Do you live in the feudal era or something? You do know you just probably look like a retard

>> No.12416411

I think boku is cute!

>> No.12416422

>>12416411
I think boku on girls and shotas is cute. Boku in grown-up men is gay.

>> No.12416434

Do Japanese people have a problem with calling those who work under them -san? It's so strange to me to see the managers call their female workers -kun.

>> No.12416437
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>>12416411
I t-think you're cute!

>> No.12417580

Is this the Japanese thread? If so, help me, nerds. Should I learn vocabulary before studying kanji or learn vocabulary from kanji? And also, are there better sites than kanjidamage? Everyone recommends kanjidamage but everything there is confusing as fuck.

Thanks and pls help.

>> No.12417635

>>12417580
I have decent-level nihongo and I didn't use any site or study program. I just started trying to read stuff using the "rikaichan" browser extension and a dictionary. It's tough going at first, but it gets easier. and you learn all aspects except pronunciation, and stroke order simultaneously.

>> No.12417654

>>12413516
I'm guessing they use anata, since that's the common way of referring to an anonymous "you" in written material, when it's necessary.

>If it's an instruction manual where they don't even use "you", I don't really think it counts as being written in second person.
It would count. It's about the perspective being written from, not about words used.

>>12417580
Study vocabulary and kanji as a single entity.

>> No.12417656

kono oresama

>> No.12417675

>>12417654
>I'm guessing they use anata, since that's the common way of referring to an anonymous "you" in written material, when it's necessary.
I see. I wonder if any examples exist.

>It would count. It's about the perspective being written from, not about words used.
Pretty sure it counts as obviative or fourth person instead.

>> No.12417704

not enough pics of sissy faggot queer-boypussies in this thread

>> No.12417811

>>12417704
No halfway decent femboys on /jp/, just fat neckbeards acting like little anime girls on the internet.

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>>12417675

>> No.12418898

>>12417816
I must know what this book is.

>> No.12418925

>>12406448
I found a shitty eroge written in 2nd person, it's weird as fuck to read.

>> No.12418935

>>12418925
Wow. Where?

>> No.12418944
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>>12390767
>He deletes post that he doesn't like because every time he sees one he has an asthma attack.

Ore wa Forufuri Modu.

>> No.12419261

>>12418925
Aren't lots of eroge written like that if you're a faceless male type? Or did you mean non-vn?

Come to think of it, wouldn't any game that said things like "you fought bears and gained 3 strength" or "you took it easy today" be second person too? What do those kinds of games say in JapanesE?

>> No.12419284

>>12419261
Aren't most of them in first person?

>Come to think of it, wouldn't any game that said things like "you fought bears and gained 3 strength" or "you took it easy today" be second person too? What do those kinds of games say in JapanesE?
Yes, but Japanese drops the "you" where possible, so I don't think it'd count as second person, but rather fourth person instead.

>> No.12419321

Is this Disinformation: The Thread?

>> No.12419330

>>12415265
I'm a girl and I use oresama

>> No.12419418

>>12419261
Yeah it wasn't a text-focused game, more of an RPG with h-scenes from the looks of it, I just read the opening once when I was bored.

>>12418935
http://vndb.org/v12854

hey looks like someone even translated it

>> No.12419467

>>12419321
Only a fool takes anything posted on this site as fact.

>> No.12419933

>>12419467
Are you implying that everything posted on 4chan is a lie? Does that include your post too?

>> No.12420304

You just got out of /b/ kid?

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