/jp/ - Otaku Culture

ten to one says you don't give a shit about either touhou or kancolle

>KanColle
Monster girls are the new hotness, pops.

Just because sometging is newer doesnt always mean it better or people will just abandon what theyve put their faith and effort in for so long

>>12337718
Can we place a bet on whether the mod will delete the fifth one of these threads up?

2hu had a good run but it's time to let it go

I don't like the genre kancolle belongs to and therefore I won't play it.

>>12337747
Honestly in the realm of these games it's got to be one of the lesser offensive ones when it comes to transactions. They are very optional, the real cost is in time.

>>12337747
Hella is Finnish for oven just so you know.

Don't even dare make me post over 10 version of that word right now.

>>12337758
I have the theory that DLC and micro transactions will be the real reason for the next video games collapse.

>>12337789
There's already a divide between people who play games for the gameplay and people who play games to kill fifteen minutes here and there.

In the West the first type has strongly resisted p2w because people hate that.

>not playing kancolle from beta
>still playing it in 2014

I'll play Kancolle when I do not have to use a Japanese VPN.

>>12337789
In the age of smartphone onslaught it is already winning.
This is the future. The illusion of choice where you dont have to pay anything to play game will hook people in.
They just need 1% of their playerbase to spend to support everyone.

Fuck off and take your shitty military glorification propaganda to /v/ or /k/, I heard they love weeb shit

>>12337715
Why does she wear the thong?

>>12337884
Why don't you?

>>12337885
A fat nerd wearing a thong isn't particularly attractive or comfortable.

Why do people like Shimakaze when Amatsukaze is way cuter?

>>12339997
It's the thong

Does her thong smell like shit, motor oil, or a combination of both?

I will never take interest in kancolle.

I am of Chinese descent and my family suffered greatly in WW2.

"Kancolle" does nothing but encourage militarism and revisionism amongst Japan's youth, especially susceptible elementary schoolboys.

>>12340032
give me your yuan gweilo

>>12340032
Funnily enough, 2/3 of the kancolle players are Chinese

I don't really give two shits about boats.
I never got into any of the "girls who are actually x!" media.

Why boats?

Jets are far cooler.

>>12337715
Is that why Touhou has 500 more circles at the next Comiket than Kancolle?

>>12340049
Not enough named jets.

>>12340049
I have the feeling that it really wouldn't matter at all as long as it contains cute girls and subliminal nationalism.

>>12337718
Fuck, you got me.

>>12340082
Disregard that, I suck cocks.

>>12340032
A chinese complaining about revisionism and nationalism is beyond hilarious.

>>12337808
I don't play Kancolle (the last browser game I played was BattleSpace, and I stopped because Marvelous closed and the European server sucks), so I want to know what does it mean "win" in this game.

If it is a game with ranking, generally means anyone can get a good rank without wasting money.
For example, Valkyrie Crusade's ranking (the Subdue Archwitch one, not the Alliance Duel) is pretty F2W. You just need a lot of senders and time. Money doesn't really help you (maybe in getting good UR cards, but they aren't needed).

If this game doesn't have a ranking, then it means you can beat the story (and probably special events) without spending money, but there must be some catch.
Maybe it is like Candy Crash Saga, that it is mostly a luck game in later stages if you don't spend money.
Or maybe it needs careful planning like saving resources for an event and, if you waste a lot without thinking, the only way is getting them with money.

I just hope it isn't like Puzzle & Dragons. People tell you to restart the app until you get a good monster.
That kills the interest in the game before you actually play it.

>>12340124
Kantai Collection = aim is to collect all ships (and maybe waifu one of them and level her to 150). Think of it as something like Pokémon in that regard.

The game has a monthly ranking where the top 500 in every server get something, but most people don't usually bother with it I think.

>Or maybe it needs careful planning like saving resources for an event and, if you waste a lot without thinking, the only way is getting them with money.
Pretty much this. Most people don't bother with ranking for this reason. They want to stockpile for the next event due to paranoia. Whether the paranoia is well-founded or not is another story, of course. It wasn't for Spring event but more likely than not it will for this event.

Kancolle characters are too slutty, with bunch of metals attached to them. (first impression)

This is just Japan and their warship fetish. Whats the attraction?

>>12340144
Do people think Shimakaze is the only character?

>>12340147
No, there's Kongou, Akagi, Kaga, Atago as well. Most people who know Shimakaze also know Kongou at least.

But both of them are outdated as fuck. Why aren't you playing superior modern Western games?

i hate this old and busted meme
toho good
cankolle who cares, looks pretty dumb to me

>>12337715
Yeah you're right! so I'll play puzzle & dragons, since it's more popular than touhou, and it's new!

- STG with cute girls and catchy music created by a single man who made the otaku dream true and put some thoughts around his characters and plot
- commercialized browser game for casuals from a company which jumped on the "strike witches"-train with anthropomorphized ships in skimpy, slutty dresses; basically no gameplay at all except you collect stuff to... collect more stuff
q.e.d.

Touhou is not outdated. Touhou will NEVER be outdated. All this trolling about Kancolle being "more recent" or "more popular" than Touhou is really getting on my last damn nerve. Because Touhou is nowhere close to being outdated, and it's just trolls like the OP here who are virally marketing Kancolle in an attempt to convince people that Kancolle is the new Touhou when we couldn't be further from the truth. This is a cheap attempt to collapse and commodify the Touhou fandom, to steal a piece of our pie so that Kancolle can profit.

Be strong, my brouhous. This too, will pass. They're just trolling. We will always have our veritable stream of Touhou, and it will be quality.

Which Kancolle would you fuck?

that feel when the new M1 GP would be about Kancollel

Kancolle a shit.
Kancolle fans a shit.
This thread a shit.
All Hail Touhou.

I'm not playing anything with thongs in it. they look stupid.

>>12349754
>Brohous

Get out of /jp/

>>12349754
>brouhous
The correct term is toubros

>>12349781
no

>>12349754
>>12349776
You do know Kancollefags don't bother with trying to make Kancolle bigger than Touhou by trolling and such, right?

>>12349759
Oh

>>12349794
Naw. It houbros

>>12349811
I blame the waroshits.

>>12349840
The pale-skinned Kancolles are the sexiest!

>>12340043
Citation needed.

>>12349931
Not him, and I don't think 2/3 of Kancolle players are Chinese either, but Kancolle is very popular in China, enough to have its own Kancolle exclusive event in Shanghai at least.

>>12349754
Are you going to "subtly" bump this thread every day with a dumb post like that?

>>12340032
>implying elementary schoolboys have anything to do with Kancolle

>>12340032
How do you feel knowing that mainland China has one of the biggest Kancolle fanbases outside of Japan?

>>12345488
Oh shit PAD, Mah nigga

Oh look, it seems Kadokawa paid viral marketing shills are moving to /jp/ after completing their objective in 2ch.

>>12349974
>>12354932
Not him but that doesn't mean anything other than confirming that the young generation doesn't give a shit about history because they weren't directly affected by Japanese raping Chinese every day. Besides weeaboos tend to not give a shit about anything and consume media no matter what their implications are like the mindless sheep most of them are. This is obvious, I don't know why I have to explain it to you.

>>12357845
You're around one year too late for that.

>>12357858
Were you answering someone's question, or just running your mouth off at random?

>>12357868
>Were you answering someone's question, or just running your mouth off at random?
Did you read the thread, you autist? I'm implying that >>12354932's retort is fucktarded because it doesn't prove >>12340032 wrong in any way, and it's due to a completely different phenomenon, which basically explains the popularity of Kancolle, a shitty nationalistic, militaristic, chauvinistic "game" (actually a marketing stunt), outside of Japan.

>>12357879
He didn't set out to prove anyone wrong. He just asked a question. Conversely, you didn't prove him wrong in any way.

>>12357879
Wow you're sure overthinking this.

Hard to tell which is the fad, but kancolle is already draining away into touhou. It was a new generation's thing, but that generation is being pulled into the old.

ZUN is already pushing ahead.

>>12357879
have you ever considered that it wasn't created for all those stupid reasons you list, but simply because "men like girls in skimpy outfits, and are more likely to spend lots of money on that than women would on men in skimpy outfits, since they're still repressed about it by the "mah purity" virgin losers. let's give that to them and they will keep giving us money. add some generic gameplay so it's not just a bunch of pictures on a booru. use the "setting generator" to quickly get the flavor of the month setting. nobody cares what's it about anyway, it's all just girls in skimpy outfits after all. that's a recipe for success, my goys."

>>12357894
He's probably Chinese.

>>12357887
No, but he had to come with the "Well it seems the rest of the Chinese don't give a shit about what you think!" damage control reply.

>>12357894
What part of it? If you're talking about the nature of Kancolle, other posters like >>12337818 or >>12340032 or many others in other threads have easily spotted this; it's not hard to see unless you don't want to and it has to do with a strong reactionary movement within today's Japanese otaku and disillusioned youth. If you browse 2ch you can also easily spot this.

By the way the Japanese government is currently doing reforms to re-militarize Japan with the excuse of "self-defense".

http://togetter.com/li/701200

There have been many protests against it in the last months (Tokyo's Bulldoze Fascism Movement among others). One guy even lit himself on fire in Shinjuku.

Say whatever you want. But I'm not making this shit up, I'm not trying to shit on any of you and I'm not the only one who sees this; Kancolle seems fucking fishy, I don't agree with the current direction of Japan and I don't agree with anything that supports it, intentionally or accidentally. Even a fucking Japanese anime (Outbreak Company) admits that Japanese media is actively used as cultural control; this might be mindless fun for us but in Japan it's not.

>>12357887
No, but he had to come with the "Well it seems the rest of the Chinese don't give a shit about what you think!" damage control reply.

>>12357894
What part of it? If you're talking about the nature of Kancolle, other posters like >>12337818 or >>12340032 or many others in other threads have easily spotted this; it's not hard to see unless you don't want to and it has to do with a strong reactionary movement within today's Japanese otaku and disillusioned youth. If you browse 2ch you can also easily spot this.

By the way the Japanese government is currently doing reforms to re-militarize Japan with the excuse of "self-defense".

http://www.okinawatimes.co.jp/article.php?id=74890

There have been many protests against it in the last months (Tokyo's Bulldoze Fascism Movement among others). One guy even lit himself on fire in Shinjuku.

Say whatever you want. But I'm not making this shit up, I'm not trying to shit on any of you and I'm not the only one who sees this; Kancolle seems fucking fishy, I don't agree with the current direction of Japan and I don't agree with anything that supports it, intentionally or accidentally. Even a fucking Japanese anime (Outbreak Company) admits that Japanese media is actively used as cultural control; this might be mindless fun for us but in Japan it's not.

>>12357953
if you think usa will just sit by and let them return to what they were during world war 2, you're paranoid. japan is a glorified american colony for a reason.

nobody wants another repeat of the nazi thing, so they will be controlled until all old bitter people die and are replaced by young people who have no connection to the old ways or post war sentiments other than "oh, i saw this in my animu. that was a funny cartoon, but it was all fiction".

>>12357953
quite ironic that it's China that is kinda forcing Japan to rethink its peaceful policy.

>>12357979
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the US is quite attentive to this. Even so, I'm not upset at Kancolle nor at these reforms specifically, but afraid of an eventual return to the old Japanese chauvinism. Kancolle just came out at that moment and it just buttfrustrated me to no end.

>>12357994
Are they? Well, it wouldn't surprise me. I'm not defending China either. How are they "forcing" them?

>>12357953
>reactionary
>>12358004
>chauvinism
Stop doing that.

>>12357904
Is he? Is there a new game coming out I haven't heard of?

>>12358006
Why? Do you get personally offended by those terms, even though they're were used properly and in context to accurately describe Japan?

>>12358004
China has been bullying everyone and thinking the whole sea is theirs. No one actually like China. Not even Taiwan or Hong Kong. Read up on those territorial dosputes around SEA.

>>12358004
Well, China has been going on about those "historical territory claims" and acting like they have the rights to do whatever they want just because they were "bullied" in the past and that they need "compensation".
This pretty much pisses everybody off including Japan. That's why Japan is starting to re-militarize themselves. Because the US has been too busy dealing with Ukraine and Russia that Japan feels vulnerable against the ambitious China. Mind you that one of the major reasons why Japan has been sticking to its peaceful policy is US's promise to provide security to Japan.

>>12358019
So you're admitting that Japan is getting ready to go on a war with China.

>>12358039
More like getting ready to defend themselves against China. I don't think it's in Japan's core interest to start war with anybody. But Japan sure needs some defensive capability and they seem to think that they currently don't have enough.

Don't forget North Korea. Japan sure doesn't like having a close neighbour who keeps waving his "dick" in front of her.

Oh, and NK is backed by China, who, incidentally, hate Japan as well.

>>12357953
Just because somebody is being made fun of doesn't mean it's "damage control." Sometimes people are just being made fun of. Who knew.

If you're so mad about it just go read Alice no Takarabako's work about the Kancolles being whored out to American servicemen and enjoy the rape.

>>12358054
If you really think Asia-Pacific geopolitics today looks like both Koreas, China, and all the ASEANS stacked up against Japan, you're deluded.

>>12358047
>More like getting ready to defend themselves against China.
Same thing. When you're shooting missiles at other people it doesn't matter who started it.

>But Japan sure needs some defensive capability and they seem to think that they currently don't have enough.
Certainly they're more vulnerable than many other developed countries, I agree. It's just that people don't know how far this could go.

>>12358054
Yes, but NK doesn't have that much military power, they're very poor. And if China dared to attack a vulnerable nation like Japan I'd expect other countries to intervene immediately.

And, in fact, it would be more likely for China to attack a militarized Japan than the current one.

>>12358068
so what does it look like then? I'm pretty sure japs have at least SOME prejudice against korea, even outside 2ch.

>>12358019
>not even Taiwan or Hong Kong
You say that as if it's something surprising. The whole reason Taiwan fucking exists is because the old ROC supporters didn't like the PRC that shit up their country and they were gonna hang them all so they all left for Taiwan. Hong Kong tolerates China because they have to, they have a business relationship, even though China will eventually fuck them over whether they like it or not.

>>12358068
>If you really think Asia-Pacific geopolitics today looks like both Koreas, China, and all the ASEANS stacked up against Japan, you're deluded.
No, more like it's China and North Korea going against everyone else, but the threat from China alone is enough for everyone in the vicinity (including Japan) to stay on their toes.

>>12358068
China hates Japan, it's way too obvious. Anti-Japan sentiment still exists in South Korea but not as severe and widespread. North Korea has been kidnapping Japanese citizens since way ago.
ASEANs actually like Japan, especially the Philippines, I think.

>>12358076
China's job is not to invade the Japanese mainland and inflict the Rape of Tokyo, it's to quietly but obstinately expand its maritime claims over those of its neighbors, the most annoyed currently being Japan and Vietnam.

>>12358087
North Korea is not China's attack dog or valued comrade. North Korea is an extremely unreliable ally of geopolitical convenience that is a continual pain in the ass for Beijing.

>>12358077
People are more worried about China than Japan because China is actually attempting to expand its claims (territorial waters). The details are more complicated.

>>12358068
>Just because somebody is being made fun of doesn't mean it's "damage control." Sometimes people are just being made fun of. Who knew.
You sure like euphemisms. What the original poster said was right and making fun of that post only attempts to disregard it as unimportant, attacking it without arguments. Or damage control, since I assumed the responses were from Kancolle fans.

Plot twist: Putin will come and save Japan from whatever threat she's been facing while Obama turns out to be a Chinese spy all along.

>>12358100
>North Korea is an extremely unreliable ally of geopolitical convenience that is a continual pain in the ass for Beijing.
Actually, North Korea seems to be a pain in the ass for everyone.

>>12358102
You sure are a buttfrustrated Chinese nationalist. The response was more along the lines of "nobody gives a shit" than anything else, which is a response heard a dozen times a day in /jp/ without anybody making a huge screaming deal about it.

>>12358110
>Chinese nationalist.
How the hell did you even come to assume I'm Chinese, and even a nationalist, from my posts? Holy shit, dude.

>>12358119
Because nobody else could possibly give as much of a shit about defending an asspained Chinese national, except possibly a Korean.

>>12358100
>North Korea is not China's attack dog or valued comrade. North Korea is an extremely unreliable ally of geopolitical convenience that is a continual pain in the ass for Beijing.
I know that, but on paper they're still allies, which means China isn't going against them, at least. And they're certainly not improving the tension in the area there.

>>12358076
Japan has more than enough defensive capability in the form of the United States, and China knows that so they'll never actually invade anywhere, but they will quietly expand wherever they can without any military interaction and they will just keep doing that because they know they can.

>>12358107
Does Russia currently have friendly relationships with Japan?

I don't know about Kancolle, but there is nothing wrong with Japan's re-militarization.

It's a good thing considering that will keep China in check.

>>12358128
>Ukraine
>Iraq
>implying that the US can actually defend anyone.

>>12358139
The US fleet in the pacific can, not to mention the military bases in South Korea and Okinawa.

>>12358126
Tension in the area will exist as long as North Korea does, it's not going anywhere.

>>12358128
Some Japanese aspire to not be dependent on America's greatness one day.

>>12358133
No, Japan is an ally of the United States, and not a fan of Russian land grabs, seeing as how Japan and Russia actually have their own territorial disputes.

>>12358145
>Some Japanese aspire to not be dependent on America's greatness one day.
And this is a bad thing?

A country with a good military that can stand on its toe is not a bad thing.

The whole of SEA is against China.
China is actually hated by all their surrounding neighbors. There were even a huge riot over at Vietnam against chink companies recently.

>>12358133
They don't hate each other. Plus, both dislike China.

>>12358145
>Some Japanese aspire to not be dependent on America's greatness one day.

But Japan has been dependent on the greatness of every major power regardless of the era. Is it so bad being the beloved friend across the sea?

This whole durr Kancolle = militarism and nationalism is silly as fuck considering the amount of chinese playing it.

>>12358122
I don't give a shit if he's Chinese or not, I came here to agree with him and expose an argument about my stance about Kancolle, which I did in the rest of my posts. You're the only one here who's so worried about the original post thing.

And judging by the way you care so much about countries (Korean generalization? Step it up, weeb; you aren't any more Japanese by acting like a netouyo) you sound like the nationalist here. Your filthy nature is showing.

>>12358147
Yeah I'm pretty sure the whole world loves how the US spends most of the world's money on military. They're an independent, strong country alright!

>>12358153
Japan has been for most of her history a secluded country. Most world powers don't even know her on the map until 15th centuries or something.

>>12358139
>implying the US had any intention of defending either
>implying Ukraine and Iraq are even in the same category as Japan
Japan is a world economic power (regardless of their current economic standstill) and they have had a positive relationship with the US and the rest of the first world since the end of WW2, they aren't some shithole that happens to be next to Russia or a giant oil well for burgers to exploit.

>>12358158
>Yeah I'm pretty sure the whole world loves how the US spends most of the world's money on military. They're an independent, strong country alright!
EU and the whole free world rely on the US's military to protect them.

US basically keep the order going on.

>>12358156
They're clearly all brainwashed except for the dedicated China warrior in this thread.

>>12358166
Yeah, like they helped Haiti and Chile, right?

>>12358156
How do those two things even correlate? I'm pretty sure Japanese watch American movies where Japanese are portrayed as retarded gooks, that doesn't make the movie any less racist.

>>12358147
I wasn't making a value judgment.

>>12358156
Kantai Collection represents a small part of the normalization of history with respect to both China and Japan.

>>12358158
So, you just came to lash out at random people and run your mouth off. Gotcha. Your post was just fine until you got to the "I don't know why I have to explain it to you" part which just made you sound like a petty retard, seeing as how nobody asked you to explain anything to anyone.

>>12358166
>EU and the whole free world rely on the US's military to protect them.

...From what? A handful of grubby terrorists living in the desert?

>>12358158
I'm fine with you hating Kancolle, but your hatred for Kancolle is just a mask for your disapproving of Japan's re-militarization, even when that shit is legit self-defense, China is expanding, Japan (and all other far east countries) need to militarize themselves to counter the threat the chinese pose.

>>12358166
And EU will have a cold winter this year thanks to the US.

>>12358177
>How do those two things even correlate? I'm pretty sure Japanese watch American movies where Japanese are portrayed as retarded gooks, that doesn't make the movie any less racist.
If the japanese watch and enjoy these "racist" movies, then maybe the movies aren't racist in the first place.

We're slowly taking into victimless crimes where nobody even is offended.

Japan don't have nuke and I'm fine with their increase in military activities as long as they stay away from that shit.

>>12358180
From China to Russia.

>>12358190
Every countries need nukes.

When you have nukes, no one fuck with you, see North Korea.

>>12358177
May I direct you to Ronin and Last Samurai.
The white man in the movie is even more Japanese than Japanese themselves.
The samurai code is carried by a white man.

Surely this is an insult to the jap?

>>12358178
>Kantai Collection represents a small part of the normalization of history with respect to both China and Japan.
Both countries hate the fuck out of the each other, the only difference is that nowadays chinese enjoy jap pop culture more than their own pop culture.

What makes Kancolle so special in this regard?

>>12358180
Dealing with somalian pirates is kind of a cooperative effort between the US and Russia.
Usually getting caught by Russians ends up with all of the pirates getting stuck on lifeboats that "go missing." Which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

>>12358183
It's either cold winter or the lack of 90% of logistics and personnel for NATO.

>>12358196

thanks for the laugh, anon

>>12358187
>If the japanese watch and enjoy these "racist" movies, then maybe the movies aren't racist in the first place.
What? There's a clear definition for "racist", it it applies then it does, it has nothing to do if they enjoy it or not. Besides, there are many militaristic Chinese and many Chinese who love Japan, of course they would enjoy it. Does this somehow make the game not militaristic and not nationalistic? No.

>>12358181
>your hatred for Kancolle is just a mask for your disapproving of Japan's re-militarization
I disapprove militarization in general, and Kancolle is just one more Japanese work that glorifies it, so naturally and by association I don't like it. Is it that illogical?

>>12358210
If the EU and Russia got along, there wouldn't be a need for NATO's existence in the first place.

>>12358202
It represents the fact that despite the fact that the PRC has taught its citizens have been taught to hate the Japanese, a lot of people do not buy into that shit. It also represents a softening of Japanese historical perspective, which ordinarily crystallizes between "Japan did nothing wrong" and "Japan did everything wrong."

>>12358217
What is your take on Strike Witches and Girls und Panzer?
They also hired fumikane to draw cute girls to enlist military personnel.

>>12358220
If the EU and Russia got along, 507 million people would be speaking Russian.

>>12358217
>I disapprove militarization in general, and Kancolle is just one more Japanese work that glorifies it, so naturally and by association I don't like it. Is it that illogical?
It is illogical to disapprove militarization when there is a legit cause behind it.

And never mind Kancolle just makes a bunch of humanoid battleships, and some aren't even japanese, that shit isn't nationalistic anymore.

>>12358217
What's illogical is that you expect all of us to be as offended about it as you are.

>>12358222
Or it means shit happens and modern chinese don't give a damn about these war atrocities or whatever and just enjoy the pop culture.

>>12358211
There's nothing to laugh about.

US/the world doesn't fuck with a country that has nukes.

>>12358196
North Korea might be better off if somebody fucked with them.

>>12358240
This.
Just look at EU. Russia just invaded ukraine and down a civilian aircraft with no repercussions.

>>12358196
>>12358240
>North Korea

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M

>>12358217
>What? There's a clear definition for "racist", it it applies then it does, it has nothing to do if they enjoy it or not. Besides, there are many militaristic Chinese and many Chinese who love Japan, of course they would enjoy it. Does this somehow make the game not militaristic and not nationalistic? No.
I don't care what the "clear definition" of racism is, but if said "racism" hurts/offends nobody, then that shit doesn't matter at all.

Never mind that Kancolle has stopped being nationalistic since it covers foreign ships now.

Regarding the whole militaristic thing, yeah, I guess, because the game is about humanoid battleships and all.

>>12358187
Political correctness is killing everything and movements on both sides of the fence have been getting extremely radical as of late.

As far as current weeb media with blatant nationalist themes go I'm surprised Attack on Titan hasn't been mentioned yet.

>>12358248
Ukraine is not a part of EU.

Still, if Ukraine has nukes, that shit wouldn't happen.

>>12358256
Kancolle is nominally /jp/-related and Attack on Titan isn't.

Also, the connection with AoT is very tenuous, whereas at this very moment a million Japanese players, and thousands of Western and Asian collaborators, are conspiring to rewrite history at Midway so that the Americans lose, while simultaneously invading Alaska and sinking the USS Hornet during the Doolittle raid.

>>12358248
Mind you that the MH 17 incident is still not concluded yet. We have no evidence to be 100% sure that Russia is responsible. It may have been Kiev all along.

>>12358223
I was about to mention them, but I think they're more subtle and less nationalistic, if at all, so I don't really care. I even enjoyed GuP.

>>12358255
>but if said "racism" hurts/offends nobody, then that shit doesn't matter at all
In my opinion progressive and gradual passive acceptance of militarization hurts people themselves in the long run.

>>12358267
Yeah, I rewrite history when I play Heart of Iron too and conquer the world as the Third Reich too, surely, this means something.

This shit is getting ridiculous, it's literally just a browser game about humanoid battleships.

>>12358267
What? I don't play kancolle, what are you on about? I thought the girls fought against aliens like the strike witches did.

>>12358273
>In my opinion progressive and gradual passive acceptance of militarization hurts people themselves in the long run.
There's nothing wrong with militarization in self defense, everyone do that.

This is just as bad as calling the american bad because they militarized themselves in WW2 and the Cold war.

>>12358280
That is correct

>>12358280
This is the depiction of USS Yorktown in Kancolle.

>>12358276
If you're cheering Hitler every step of the way, decorating your room with Nazi flags, and generally engaging in the glorification of the Wehrmacht, it might be time for a reevaluation.

>>12358280
Stages involve the reenactment of WWII battles with aliens standing in for the Americans. The current event involves the player carrying out a detailed recreation of Operations AL and MI (Aleutians and Midway) which, of course, the player is expected to win.

>>12358288
>This is just as bad as calling the american bad because they militarized themselves in WW2 and the Cold war.
This very much depends on where you're looking at it from. Remember the winner always gets the chance to rewrite history, and write themselves off as the victims. It's up to you to investigate it further.

>>12358276
This. The gameplay is actually boring too. I don't get why people are so butthurt about this.
It makes no sense to even compare Kancolle to Touhou in the first place.
Let's look at it this way: Gangnam Style have over 1 billion views on Youtube. Does that affect my appreciation for Perfume? Obviously no.

>>12358273

Regarding the "racism" thing, it's people like you who are trying to make it into a problem, "hurr durr look at how this is racist and how racism is bad", when nobody is even hurt/offended by it.

>>12358297
tojo did nothing wrong

>>12358294
>If you're cheering Hitler every step of the way, decorating your room with Nazi flags, and generally engaging in the glorification of the Wehrmacht, it might be time for a reevaluation.
Reevaluation of what?

I did enjoy the wehrmacht, their weapons and various generals, and I even like Hitler's speeches, what's the big deal?

>>12358300
If you genuinely believe racism offends or hurts no one then you really live in a fucking dream world. But again this is out of scope.

>>12358299
>I don't get why people are so butthurt about this.
Because it's popular as fuck.

>>12358294
>Stages involve the reenactment of WWII battles with aliens standing in for the Americans. The current event involves the player carrying out a detailed recreation of Operations AL and MI (Aleutians and Midway) which, of course, the player is expected to win.
Oh wow. I hope you're not shitting us.

>>12358301
People also conveniently forget that the Yasukuni Shrine also enshrines victims of Japan in WWII and Japanese patriots from other eras. There's so much butthurt involving Yasukuni it looks ridiculous.

>>12358267
I know AoT isn't /jp/ related at all but the themes make up a decent chunk of it. It's about a civilization isolated from the outside world within big walls... ugly foreigners invade... a group of teens with stronk samurai spirit must defend the city... Also, Mikasa is the only half-Japanese left in existence whose oversized box cutter blades have been folded over a thousand times etc.

Also, potato girl is best girl, etc.

>rewrite history
I think you are looking into it a little bit too closely here dude.

>>12358312
Well, then you are pretty much a Nazi, and should consider going to Eastern Ukraine to simultaneously lay waste to slavic barbarians on the field of battle, while becoming a hero to Europe.

>>12358315
Does Touhou also have militaristic/nationalistic undertones? This is important, I'm now an anti-nationalistic otaku

>>12358294
>Stages involve the reenactment of WWII battles with aliens standing in for the Americans. The current event involves the player carrying out a detailed recreation of Operations AL and MI (Aleutians and Midway) which, of course, the player is expected to win.
Literally just games.

We rewrite history every time we play strategy video games involving two or more real life factions, what's the big deal?

>>12358322
Touhou is not nationalistic but it is highly religious based.
It is basically shinto vs buddhism vs taoism.

>>12358322
nah, it's just little girls having tea parties after nuking the shit out of each oher.

>>12358324
The difference I see is that those games don't have a defined tendency.
This one instead intentionally and willingly panders at delusional right-wing Japanese otaku.

>>12358314
>If you genuinely believe racism offends or hurts no one then you really live in a fucking dream world. But again this is out of scope.
I genuine believe that, but we're speaking about supposedly "racism" that hurts/offends nobody, such as those "racist" films about japs that even the japs enjoy, you are literally trying to make them a problem when even the japs have no problem with them.

>>12358314
I am invading the Aleutians as we speak. My fleet is ill-composed, so I'm having a little trouble, but I should be able to move onto Midway within a few days.

>>12358319
Uh, no, Attack on Titan is about how said isolated civilization is completely shit to the core. Read the manga.

>>12358322
No, Touhou Project is explicitly internationalist. Rinnosuke and Shikieiki both deliver lectures about how people and cultures which isolate themselves become close-minded and small-hearted.

>>12358334
There are games where you can't play the nazi or don't have nazi campaigns because the nazis are bad or anything, so some do have defined tendency (and this is bad because I like playing as both).

But the games ultimately remain as games, who gives a damn if they rewrite histories, some of its are even the point.

>>12358337
>Uh, no, Attack on Titan is about how said isolated civilization is completely shit to the core. Read the manga.
Ironic how you say that, considering Isayama said on his twitter once that Korea wouldn't be where it is now if Japan didn't colonize 'em beforehand.

>>12358340
The issue is that it's becoming a heavier and more prominent theme in the arts a culture is producing.

It could just be a "phase" in which you wait for them to "grow out of" or it could end up seriously damaging the country and resulting in more pointless suffering.

>>12358347
How is that an issue?

It's literally games.

This is like GTA is bad because it encourages people into becoming gangsters and drug dealers.

>>12358335
It's easy if you've never been victim of racism. But if you're in /jp/ I'm sure you've been victim of subtle discrimination (either by getting insulted, or isolated, or made fun at) for your hobbies, or general social ineptitude, which has been (for some people here) enough to turn them into shut-ins and depressed people. Still, it's something you can change if you try enough.

Now imagine the same thing, but worse. And for something that you didn't even had the choice of, and will have to endure for the rest of your life until your die. Are you really sure it doesn't hurt anybody?

>>12358180
i wouldn't call islam just a handful of terrorists.

there's many more of them, and sooner or later they will try to resume their crusade against the rest of the world.

ignoring and trivializing them won't make them go away, it'll just make you wake up with a knife on your neck one day.

>>12358344
Okay, now connect this to Attack on Titan. Pixis as Hirobumi barely counts, Hirobumi in Japanese history is first and foremost the drafter of the Meiji Constitution and founding father of the Meiji state. Korea sees him entirely in his role as Resident-General of Korea, but in Japan people consider that as one of his tertiary capacities.

You could argue that Attack on Titan tacitly rehabilities the gekokujou of the militarists which hijacked the civilian government, but that would be a stretch.

>>12358356
Nobody forced you to play Kancolle, or be offended by it.

>>12358356
Dude, you're on 4chan. Go back to tumblr.

>>12358354
It's only wrong to be militarized when japan does it, china can get away with it no prob.

>>12358365
>Nobody forced you to play Kancolle, or be offended by it.
What? He said that he genuinely believes racism hurts no one. I was talking about racism in general.

>>12358369
That's not an excuse. I'm alright with racist jokes and I fuck around with them, it just always surprises me to see people, in serious conversations like this, who seem to be genuinely okay with discrimination, when in fact most people in 4chan have been victims of it.

>>12358340
There is an explicit theme of at least overcoming history, if not rewriting it.

Converted passenger liner and first-class lady Hiyou missed out on the Aleutians campaign, and only her younger sister Junyou was able to go. So she's happy about being able to go on the Aleutians campaign. Akagi has this whole thing about making up for her massive, pride-induced unpreparedness and failure at Midway. They gave her custom lines for it. "This time, we won't lose."

Man, I wish murrica was depicted more often as a super alien or burning rape engine ships. I'd sign up for that.

>>12358381
Most people on 4chan are very conservative in the sense that they think that if you're offended by something, it's your fault.

>>12358314
>Stages involve the reenactment of WWII battles with aliens standing in for the Americans.
i dunno, i find the abyss less aliens, more "over-demonized" westerners. they're all either white or black.

which means, we are the abyss. we are the wo, we are the airfield princess, seashore princess, the re etc.

so, we're hot.

>>12358381
>>12358385
He's basically supporting censorship. Let's not show any nerds getting bullied or rejected in pop media because that could potentially offend nerds. It's a double standard, no one is discriminating against chinks, in fact they are pretty racist against other asians themselves.

>>12358385
Stop using the word "offended" when I'm talking about "discrimination" here, they're very different things. It's your fault if you're offended by something someone said; but it's not your fault if you, for example, get isolated or have statistically less probability of getting a job for something you didn't do or choose.

>>12358392
How the fuck is kancolle stealing ur jerbs?
Again, the chinese enjoy playing kancolle too for fuck sake.

>>12358390
Can you please take your low IQ elsewhere? Fucking schizophrenic, try to understand what you're reading.

>>12358361
...and there's people like you who goes around spreading unnecessary fear and hate.

>>12358395
Naw, I'm good here.

>>12358393
I'm not talking about Kancolle anymore you retard, I replied to a post about something else.

>>12358392
Well, maybe you should stop talking about things that have no relation whatsoever to the OP, since this thread is about Kancolle, and not how it's hard for black people to find jobs in the United States, since that's a topic four times removed from everything.

But we can also make it about how you're an angry liberal who is angry that not everybody is as liberal as he is.

>>12358408
This was a troll thread from the start, why are you upset that's somehow off-topic now?

>liberal
Well, it seems you aren't capable of thinking for yourself and forming your own opinions of other people. There's nothing else to argue with you.

>>12358413
Because you specifically drove the thread there with your politically correct whining. First, we were talking about Kancolle. Then you injected racism into the debate. Then we discussed whether stereotypes don't offend anybody are harmful. You injected specific discriminatory harm and your generic whining about 4chan into the debate. And now we're at the point where your initial rant about how you needed to educate ignorant 4channers about the dangers of Kancolle just looks fucking dumb. Which it was.

Just because the OP was not stellar does not mean we are not posting in an on-topic thread. It's okay for OPs to be negative. Lots of boards have them all the time without people crying over it.

>>12358413
Are you not a liberal? Are you a conservative? Some sort of radical leftist? A reactionary or a fascist?

>>12358413
>Well, it seems you aren't capable of thinking for yourself and forming your own opinions of other people. There's nothing else to argue with you.
Look at all this ``tolerance" in action.

>>12358413
That's is the reason why I lashed at you for using the words "reactionary" and "chauvinistic" earlier on, those are very obviously liberal insults.

>>12358424
That's exactly what I mean. Instead of trying to refute any argument you only resort to call people "liberal" and worry about the words they use instead. You're not trying at all, so you're wasting my and your time here. And I didn't even use those words as insults. Funny how you're talking about getting offended about things.

>>12358421
tolerance and "you hurt muh feelings!" are two things.

here you're obviously butthurt because he fucking told you, but that doesn't make anyone intolerant.

it just makes you a whiny baby who can't stand being called an idiot and cries wolf when there's none.

>>12358433
People like you need to take it easy on the jay

>>12358433
Your first post in this thread was totally out of fucking left field. When pressed to explain why the poster you were so righteously flaming was in fact wrong, you dragged the conversation more and more and more off-topic, until it was unrecognizable.

>a shitty nationalistic, militaristic, chauvinistic "game" (actually a marketing stunt), outside of Japan.
There sure aren't any implied insults here.

>>12358433
I'm not the same guy you were replying to, also yeah those actually are insults, man. You're offending me with your racism, please stop.

>>12358447
There is one person who started "crying" about things in this thread, and he started ranting about how Kancolle, and Japan, and 4chan were all shit because they didn't join our offended Chinese friend in condemning Kancolle.

>>12358452
They just expressed their opinion and other people joined, no one is crying here but you.

>>12358447
I'm not even the dude you're replying to and I think you're just trying to find things that aren't even there at this point.

There is no reason to get upset.

>>12358456
*you replied to

>>12358449
"shitty" is the only insult there. Chauvinism means nationalistic narcissism, and it's almost a synonym of patriotism.

>>12358452
It ended up being a short but interesting and healthy discussion about Asian politics, I fail to see why you're even angry about this.

>>12358455
>expressed their opinion
What he actually did is continually reframe the debate until it reached the point where he attempted to paint his "pro-racism" opponents as being okay with lynching black people. Which is both retarded tactics and thread-derailing.

At least when the thread was about the Imperial Japanese Navy it was nominally related to Kancolle.

>other people joined
In calling him a retard, yeah.

>>12358464
>What he actually did is continually reframe the debate until it reached the point where he attempted to paint his "pro-racism" opponents as being okay with lynching black people. Which is both retarded tactics and thread-derailing.
No, you're reading too much into it. Besides why are you assuming it was one person? You sound extremely paranoid and autistic, not everyone thinks like you.

>>12358356
Yes, I'm sure.

Because I got over it. You can get over it too.

>>12358464
>he attempted to paint his "pro-racism" opponents as being okay with lynching black people
Someone sounds offended here. Poor victim.

I don't even know who is who in this thread anymore lol

>>12358473
You're the last people who should be accusing people of "reading into things." This whole thing got off the ground because you flipped a shit at someone who mentioned that Kancolle was popular in China with a completely unrelated post, and then dragged the thread super fucking off-topic while justifying yourself.

>Besides why are you assuming it was one person?
Gee, I wonder.

>>12358383
As said, rewriting history is not an issue, it's a fucking video games.

And when they word it that way, that sounds like they are overcoming a challenge.

That is a nice spirit to have, no?

>>12358482
Well, to tell you the truth, I am a weak person who gets offended by incredible stupidity. Please forgive me. It's a real personal failing.

>>12358489
Oh wow, what a clever retort.

>>12358492
I'm offended already.

buttfrustrated kimchifags getting BTFO

>>12358472
Do their claps create ultrasonic soundwaves?

>>12358489
No, you just get offended at things and people you disagree with, who you define with the very descriptive and mature word "stupid".

>>12358337
>No, Touhou Project is explicitly internationalist. Rinnosuke and Shikieiki both deliver lectures about how people and cultures which isolate themselves become close-minded and small-hearted.
Actually.

Those people that Shikieki (and Komachi) mean when they say that are unproductive NEETs who lose grips on reality.

Shikieiki is perfectly fine with people not getting along, she even encourages youkai like Yuuka to attack people, and for Miko like Reimu to exterminate youkai, because that's the right thing to do.

Not to mention the nature of Gensokyo itself is isolationist, with all the foreigners getting beaten up by the local inhabitants (the Hakurei miko) by force.

If China is a foreign force attempting to mess up Gensokyou/Japan, then Japan representative/military (Reimu) would go beat China up, and words are useless against her.

In this way, it can be said that Touhou encourages self-defense with force.

>>12358507
Only when those people are backpedaling faggots. Here, try responding to this:

This whole thing got off the ground because you flipped a shit at someone who mentioned that Kancolle was popular in China with a completely unrelated post, and then dragged the thread super fucking off-topic while justifying yourself.

>>12358484
He's the last person needs to do that because he thinks Kancolle is making japanese playing i into imperial nazi or some shit.

>>12358462
If it's a healthy discussion regarding Asian politics, you wouldn't be against Japan's militarization, you would be against China's, which serves as the legit cause for Japan's (and other nearby countries).

By making this a Japan problem, you are ignoring the context and missing the actual problem with Asia right now.

>>12358510
At the end of the day, both Yuuka and Reimu are doing their attacking and exterminating with danmaku. Bloody fighting has been replaced with ritualized courtship displays. Not very militaristic there.

But actually, the lecture I was thinking of in particular was Shikieiki's criticism of Medicine Melancholy's and her suzuran field.

>If China is a foreign force attempting to mess up Gensokyou/Japan, then Japan representative/military (Reimu) would go beat China up, and words are useless against her.
More like Japan challenges China to ping-pong, and then afterwards they sit down to have tea together.

>>12358527
You can say nobody is hurt in Kancolle too because it's magic reenactment or some shit.

But the reality is that battles still happen, and there are victors and losers, such as real battles.

Never mind that Medicine too is a NEET, because she's forgotten, she projects her hatred on every humans.

>>12358534
Kancolle is... weird. It's not even clear whether you're murdering real girls, exterminating mindless aliens, or exorcising ghosts.

>there are victors and losers, such as real battles.
There are winners and losers in sports, too. The fact that everybody does their fighting through the Spell Card Rules - invented so nobody would get hurt - is a testament to the triumph of the rule of law.

>>12358525
>you wouldn't be against Japan's militarization, you would be against China's
I'm against both, though. I said I don't defend China. But I don't see why I have to support Japan.

>By making this a Japan problem, you are ignoring the context and missing the actual problem with Asia right now.
You're right, but from what I've read about the conflict I have no reason to support any of the countries involved in it. In such a tense situation, any country taking the first step could be dangerous.

>>12358542
>I'm against both, though. I said I don't defend China. But I don't see why I have to support Japan.
Because Japan is actually standing up against an aggressor, you don't side with bully, you side with the nerd who stands up to bullying.
>You're right, but from what I've read about the conflict I have no reason to support any of the countries involved in it. In such a tense situation, any country taking the first step could be dangerous.
It would be more dangerous if Japan, and SEA countries don't do jackshit when China is overstepping their bounds, the first step is already taken, by China.

>>12358542
Because if China wants it, and Japan doesn't fight back, China gets it. Doing nothing means China wins.

>>12358534
Don't lump a ranking officer of the Doll Liberation Front with the likes of your common NEET.

>>12358511
>try responding to this
*crickets*

>>12358541
As long as battles happen, and as long as there are ideas of "right battles to be fought", there can be argued that a work is pro-force.

>The fact that everybody does their fighting through the Spell Card Rules - invented so nobody would get hurt - is a testament to the triumph of the rule of law.
People do get hurt in spell card rule, but never mind that, the second reason why spellcard rule is made, aside from not hurting your own side, is to strenghen yourself in case a strong youkai from the outside world attack, that building up is pretty militarism.

>>12358525
>>12358546
Can't this be decided in the hague court or something?

>>12358562
Seems like for a dude who seems to be keen on the affects of "racism" and social justice, you are not very keen on reality itself.

>>12358561
>deciding victors solely based on strength is unacceptable
>there is nothing superior to elegance and thought
It's pretty damn clean. Conflict resolution is ritualized. Sure, there still is conflict, but so what? The laws of war were drafted in line with liberal thinking and yet people still have wars. The only way to not have any conflict ever is for nobody to have any ambition and youkai aren't going to put up with that kind of garbage.

Actually I'd say it's an elegant, particularly Japanese solution to the problem.

>>12358562
Both sides have to agree to render the matter to the Hague for its decisions to be binding.

>>12358582
The idea is that that conflict, and even if non-lethal resolution happens, it still means no world peace for anyone, it just means everyone get to be as brutal as they can as long as it abides to spellcard rule.

It promotes militarism and self-defense (got a problem with that dude, build up your power and your friend's power, and beat him the fuck up) at the same time.

But it's ultimately doesn't mean jackshit if the opponent does not agree to spellcard rule.

>>12358592
Gensokyo isn't a Machiavellian place where everybody studies the letter of the law and figures out how to be as brutal as possible without breaking it. I mean, come on. Look at the Second Lunar War, that was resolved with the only casualty on both sides being one jar of sake. Danmaku is more like sports than real combat. People challenge each other to that shit for shits and giggles.

And in SoPM you just have people casually talking out their geopolitics (before the law arrives and closes the party). It doesn't have the atmosphere of a Yoshinoya where a fight could break out at any time.

>But it's ultimately doesn't mean jackshit if the opponent does not agree to spellcard rule.
Sure, but the entirety of Touhou Project is built around spell card rules, so I don't see what your complaint is.

>>12358600
Because 2hu does acknowledge no spellcard rule battles, and ZUN just tries to avoid it as much as it can because it strays away from the game.

Imagine if Yorihime didn't agree to the spellcard rule and she fought to kill instead, thing would be messy.

And no, I don't complain 2hu, 2hu attributes some of the values I share (pro-spiritual, pro-self defense, pro-mil), it's just that the guy was saying Gensokyou is internationalist, which it's not, even Gensokyou itself is broken into various factions, the only thing they agree on is spellcard rule.

>And in SoPM you just have people casually talking out their geopolitics (before the law arrives and closes the party). It doesn't have the atmosphere of a Yoshinoya where a fight could break out at any time.
Because these guys were beaten by the law before, they recognize that. Miko is ambitious but she also knows her mindset isn't popular (human dominance over youkai) right now even with humans.

>>12358290
now we know what happened to shinki.

she got fed up with 2hu and its oppressive anti-female freedom culture and moved over to kantai collection where she could be free to dress as slutty as she wanted.

>>12358643
>the only thing they agree on is spellcard rule.
And not hurting the human zoo, I forgot.

Humans wandering far from the zoo is fair game tho.

>>12358592
>But it's ultimately doesn't mean jackshit if the opponent does not agree to spellcard rule.
Funnily enough, we've never seen anyone step out of bounds. The fights are arbitrarily settled in spellcard duels.

You think spellcard fights are too combat oriented and deciding victors based on strength is unacceptable, ok think of spell card fights as 'melee oriented sports', like sumo wrestling and boxing. At the end of the day neither party ends up with significant casualties and they can still continue being friends without any ill will

>>12358643
>pro-mil
Maybe this is a stretch considering the closest thing to a mil 2hu has is the lunar defense force and these rabbits are a joke, Reisen aside

The military leaders such as Yorihime and Toyohime are portrayed decently though, even they make about exterminating people, but Yorihime and Toyohime only care about defending the moon from impurity, rather than attacking the source of impurity (the Earth), so they are not really anti-war libs, but they aren't heartless monsters either.

i wonder if the series will end with an atomic bomb princess having infinite stats, forcing auto surrender from every player.

>>12358680
There is nothing funny about it because ZUN purposely made it that way.

But as said Akyuu stated the 2nd reason for spellcard rule is to fight against each other and become stronger as a result, which means ZUN still acknowledges outside threats that might not abide to spellcard rule.

I don't think it will happen in the games, but it would be nice for a future plot point.

>>12358686
>even when they make threats about exterminating people

>>12358703
>ZUN still acknowledges outside threats that might not abide to spellcard rule
The Yorihime says hi. She was of the mighty Lunarian descent and had no obligation to compile with Reimu and co. with their spellcard rules, yet she still chose to go along with it

>>12358716
I mentioned Yorihime.

Yorihime followed spellcard rule because she wants to preserve the newbie rabbit guards who would die in a straight battle.

>>12358782
That could be averted given her combat prowess, Yorihime single-handedly owned Reimu and co with half the effort. What's more she was in her home ground where she could easily deploy elite soldiers instead of rabbits should it come to that

>>12337715
gr8 b8 m8

>>12358793
There's no "elite soldier".

Those rabbits are the elite emissaries she were training.

People deny the moon war but evidently a lot of older, experienced rabbits (the Reisen I generation or older) are dead and the new batch are just in training. And Yorihime wanted to be sure, considering no matter how strong she is, Reimu and co still outnumber her and can target the rabbits instead.

>>12358480
The fact that you still browse /jp/ clearly shows that you haven't.

Would anyone be able to tell me when the next lottery is?

I can't make heads or tails of the twitter, the most I can tell is something is happening on Wednesday

>>12359353
Why bother? Kancolle is a game that gets you hyped easily but there's only so much you can do with both the gameplay and content.
I had been playing Kancolle since last year and have already stopped for a month. Both the events and new girls can't keep me playing. Basically, I unfollow the game and whatever new content Kadokawa release will soon become obscure to me.
It's from my experience, I won't stop you from trying it out, just a little review.
For your question, you can figure the time out quite easily, just look for things like this: [20:00]. The time is JST which is +9.

>>12363031
So I suppose Touhou is still "fresh" to you?

I dont know if this is placebo or not.
I managed to survive notKaga node twice in a row with line ahead

>>12337715
yeah, kancolle does feel a it old by now

2hu is for wimps and closet faggots
real man play Kancolle

>>12363223
real men play call of duty. if a game has more than 2 token sluts/damsels in distress, it's for girls/gay.

>>12363126
It's not either and I was not talking about Touhou either.
My point is that Kancolle doesn't offer much in both gameplay and content. It probably wouldn't last longer than 2 or 3 years either.
If you want comparison with Touhou, well, I still find the characters interesting and continue to enjoy the games. The manga updates is good as well in my opinion. I was never into more than 10 ship girls and actually only feel emotionally attached to Kirishima. The new ship girls, I don't care. I actually stopped caring about new ship girls since Musashi.
Actually, the thing that I enjoy the most out of Kancolle is that official 4-koma which features Fubuki as main protag.

>>12363233
Anything after World at War is shit