/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Wow he just can't catch a break

If hes having a heart murmur it doesn't necessarily mean hes in danger, but should check to make sure its nothing more serious. It can be corrected without too much complication.

Maybe he should stop jacking to so much cp

I thought he actually tweeted that in english at first. That would have been cute.

Poor guy, lolis are bad for your health

hiccup of the heart? why does he make it sound so kawaii

Is this god's punishment?

>>12333937
The less pedophiles in the world, the better.

>>12334149
maybe

>>12334149
I am sure that it is the cause of an angry deity and not because he is a lardass who never exercised.

Why is this guy so popular? Sameface, Samebody, Samepersonality.

>>12334222
Sameness is fine when it's all good to begin with.

>>12334222
First H artist /a/v/ learnt of.

>>12334222
Because of the epic child pornography references he puts in his work.

>>12334227
That's inuboshi dude

and aside from the fact that he's dead there's nothing wrong with rustle.

>>12334230
I hate this joke

I like rustle's drawings, but his sex poses are so shit that I can barely fap to his comics, even though I really like his drawings. I'd rather he just drew sexy lolis and leave the rest to the imagination.

>>12334232
This isn't that joke. He literally does it. His heart attack is likely due to the sirens he heard while he was enjoying child abuse material.

Is it worth making a twitter just to follow H manga artists?

>>12334243
There are a lot of artists in general who only upload some images to twitter.

>>12334239
Yeah, I know, I thought you meant the "tracing" joke.

>>12334264
Higashiyama show actually did trace but everyone is too busy spreading the epic rustle meme to care.

>>12334239

>>12334222
Fashionable lolis and full colour works. Also his bodies are really good.

>>12334317
Yeah. I just love how this guy accurately draws prepubescent children in sexual poses.

Great man.

>>12334321
Son, are you baiting?

>>12334329
Sorry dad.

>>12334306
why did I just google PTHC

>>12334281
Must be why it's so erotic!

>>12334347
It's okay. If anybody asks, you were looking for the wikipedia page on percutaneous transhepatic cholangiography

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pthc

>>12334347
cause you're a bloody idiot

>>12334355
>>12334356
are the Feds on their way for me

what if they find my sad panda add on

should I nuke my hard drive

I've never even purposely looked at real CP

>>12334405
Are you underage? No one gives a shit unless you upload the stuff.

>>12334413
but what if they're ready to ship me off to the gulag right now

>>12334423
I'm sure you lived a good life.

>>12334427
I didn't :(

>>12334436
Then you'll feel right at home

>>12333937
I love how everything a Japanese person says sounds so poetic after translation.

Rustle ain't bad, but Quzilax is where it's at.

I think what he means by hiccup of the heart is ``skip a beat''

>>12335082
maybe he's in love!

>>12335107
With a loli? Sick pedos don't fall in love, they lust.

>>12334281
It's not about tracing in general, but tracing child pornography. Which he does do, I proved this a long time ago.

>>12335117
Rustle knows the true meaning of love. He is obviously lamenting it because he knows society won't accept his love.

>>12335141
Yeah, loving timber is pretty strange.

>>12335117
>Sick pedos don't fall in love
Say that to my face, dude.

>>12335135
>I proved this a long time ago.
You must possess an extensive knowledge of child pornography :^)

>>12335168
Do you sexualize lolis? If so, you are sick and not my pedobro

It could be that he just had a heart palpitation. Everyone experiences those at some point.

>>12335210
>Sexualizing lolis is bad
Where do you think you are?

>>12335174
He's just one of the bullies that made Rustle cry.

>>12335210
I don't need to sexualize them, they sexualize themselves.

>>12335174
Are you saying you DON'T possess an extensive knowledge of child pornography? wattafug

>>12335135
Is it in the archive?

>>12335223
Runnin' 'round leaving scars. Collecting your jar of hearts. And tearing love apart

>>12335244
Don't believe everything you read on the interwebs.

>>12335252
That's exactly why I asked

>>12333937

Please don't die, Rustle.

>>12335429
Rustle is a filthy pedo anyway, who cares?

>>12335433
His pedo fans?

>>12335436
Pedos should be executed anyway. Nature is just working its magic.

>>12335433
Where I come from, fapping to drawings isn't illegal.

>>12335444
Doesn't matter, ti's still immoral and wrong to masturbate to children.

>>12335445
Says who?

>>12335449
America

>>12335454
But loli isn't illegal in many states.

>>12335456
It's still immoral. You're still a filthy pedo who likes to look at little girls with lust.
The fact you think little girls and bald vulva are sexy means you're sick.

>>12335454

>>12335459
But I'm not the same anon. It's just retarded to give the answer of "America", when that's not necessarily true in terms of loli.

>little girls and bald vulva are sexy
You are so lewd and descriptive. Stop posting.

>>12334405

I hope they find you and lock you up for being a neo/jp/er using an ad-on to get into the panda.

>>12335468
Anon, pls, he's very clearly joking.

>>12335468
America are the moral world police. They determine what is right and wrong in this world and if you don't abide by their morals you will be liberated repeatedly.

>You are so lewd and descriptive. Stop posting.
Sick pedo. Talking about puffy mounds and flat chests is lewd to you? I bet you like catching glimpses of cotton print panties when young girls are horsing around in skirts, don't you?

>>12335467
Stay right where you are, the Department of Homeland Security will be there shortly to /investigate/ you.

>>12335483
>Stay right where you are, the Department of Homeland Security will be there shortly to /investigate/ you.
I highly doubt they're gonna fly over the Atlantic Ocean for me.

>>12335483
>/investigate/

haha nice sideline /v/ro i love that meme (:

>>12335494
In that case the Ministry of Love is already on the case. Please go to the nearest telescreen.

>>12335501
Hello /a/. What meme are you talking about?

>>12335514
I think he's just some underage fag. I remember pairs of forward slashes being used for emphasis back in usenet days. Doesn't make that guy less of a faggot however.

>>12335591
Obvious same summerfag.

>>12335593
Yes, I'm the same as the "moral world police" guy, that's why I called him a faggot.

/jp/ has really gone downhill when people are using /a/ memes and arguing over what is clearly satire.

>>12335607
It's just one guy.

/jp/ has really gone down the hill when people are shitposting

Can we please start talking about prepubescent girls in sexual poses and wooden floors again?

>>12335622
But that's not all there is to Rustle.

>>12335444
You must be living in a shitty third world country then.

>>12336099

>>12335174
What are you blabbering about, Mr. Officer, sir?!

>>12335244
Yeah, but it's not going to do you any good.

>>12336395
You're not the one who was saying referencing clothing and subtle head nods to other people who share his interests is tracing, are you?

>people shit on Rustle
>nobody shits on Higashiyama whose stuff is clearly traced from CP

>>12336754
Please tell us more master of CP and green.

>>12336502
Huh? If you want to get technical you could argue that it was used as a reference, take that /ic/, I don't care.

>>12336798
Google it.

Are little girls really as lewd as Higashiyama and Rustle portray them?

Please respond.

>>12336964
Absolutely. 9/10 of the time its the loli that seduces the man.

I don't like rustle's art that much, I'd rather "read" henreader works every day. RIP.

>>12336973
This is a blue board.

>>12336950
I know he has traced for Prism, but from goggle all I find is 'there are suspicions that he traces child porn'.

>>12334306
>>12334347
I'll bite, since the thread is before Foolz went up: What does PTHC mean?

>>12337827
It's a term used by paedos to find CP. And to find paedos looking for CP. For your own good, do not type it in any search engine.

>>12337827
> the thread is before Foolz went up
Summer is here

>>12337827
erP-neet drah eroc. Please spare me NSA

>>12337846
I really should not feel riled up by that comment, but it is August.

>>12337836
>>12337851
Apparently youtube logs your IP but have there been people that have had visits from the police from searching that?

>>12337878
It is unknown to me, but better not tempt fate, eh?

Mind you, if they spent as much effort hunting down the child prostitution and slavery rings, more progress would have been done if they were so invested.

>>12337878
I have a creeping feeling you would not hear about it on /jp/. I know a guy on IRC who passingly mentioned that he was caught on some charges, and when he was prodded, all he said was "gag order" and logged out for the day. Also, I imagine many of these types get restrictions on their internet connection or an outright ban.

Think about it, would law enforcement want people to be able to tell others how they got caught, so that they could avoid it?

Is it true that one in ten Japanese men admit to have seen CP? Is it true that you could (or even still can buy) buy CP DVDs and guides to underage sex tourism in Cambodia in stores in Akiba?

>>12334405
Oh shit dude you're fucked. They are coming for you either way so you may as well throw away your computer but nuke it then dispose of it properly

>>12337851
I hope the codebreaking might of the largest federal agency in the world is stymied by your (literally) bassackwards encryption scheme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owa5KcQ9Mxc&index=45&list=LLv3-KIjRuj0WHef3Li5Eo7Q

sit the fuck down

>>12335082
YOU MEAN DOKI DOKI?

>>12336798
If you've never seen any, how can you tell if someone traced or not?
If you have, it's obvious.

>>12334306
Reminds me of that time early in /jp/ when someone was like "hey, google search this kanji word" and no one knew what it meant. It was something like iron furnace something.

Turned out to be　what ime turned loli into in kanji.

>>12337836
PRETEEN HARDCORE

there i said fuck the police

>>12336964
No. They're literally retarded and have snot all around their nose and shit.

>>12338926
3 year olds are not the same as 9 year olds.

>>12338222
I'm pretty sure that's a troll video.

>>12339270
It presents logical arguments and explains its position well. It even provides examples of tasteful and tasteless loli in anime/manga.
Please go back to /a/ if you think that's a troll video.

>>12338934
9 year-olds usually aren't lewd.

11 year-olds though...

>>12339404
His arguments are that loli is bad because it grosses him out. In the comments he even acts flippantly and just outright rejects and counterpoints on the basis of 'you guys are pedos so I don't need to bother refuting you :^)'

Also he IS an /a/bomination himself.

>>12339482
His arguments on loli are fine.
The comments are the usual "SAYING LOLI IS PEDO IS LIKE SAYING GTA IS MURDER" willingly ignoring the fact that murder is an action that REQUIRES a victim while pedophilia is an attraction to children.
Using /a/'s logic, fapping exclusively to 2D feet ero-doujinshi doesn't make you a footfag because they're 2D and therefore don't exist.

>>12339488
Yes, that dumb argument is destroyed by the simplest analogy. I can only imagine it comes from the widespread conflation of pedo with molester. Which is a baffling thing to believe if you're jacking off to drawings of children, but that's /a/-level "lolicons" for you.

>>12339488
I'm not sure about the comments in the video but
the argument against GTA is that it makes you more violent/psychopathic and encourages you to kill real people, this is the same as liking lil fictional girls, which make you lust for and molest real girls.

Both are not proven.

And yes, you can be hot for 2D feet but not 3D, real ones, a more realistic example is trap; 2D traps are fucking hot, 3D traps are pretty fucking disgusting.

>>12339514
>the argument against GTA is that it makes you more violent/psychopathic and encourages you to kill real people
Which is irrelevant because even if loli does or doesn't make you desire 3D children, the fact that loli are 2D children and that you're sexually attracted to that doesn't change.
It's a shitty argument made by people who can't think logically and can't admit the fact they are masturbating to depictions of children and instead create all sorts of delusions and false dellimas to try and separate themselves from pedos.
The best part of it all that they're the only ones who think that. Actual pedos probably assume most people who are "just lolicons" probably would like 3D if it were legal and normalfags think anyone who likes loli in the first place is a child molestor, so they're fooling NO ONE.

>And yes, you can be hot for 2D feet but not 3D, real ones
And liking either of those makes you a footfag.

>2D traps are fucking hot, 3D traps are pretty fucking disgusting.
That means you're into traps. Just because they're 2D doesn't mean you don't like traps.

>>12339513
The best part is once you start throwing logic at them and showing them how their arguments are contradicting or just plain stupid they start acting like /v/irgins and saying you're a newfag/crossboarder/redditor/gaiafag/retard/troll/etc.

Why would you discuss lolicon on youtube?

>>12339560
It's not illegal. There's tons videos where little girls are on monkey bars and stuff and you get a clear shot of their pantsu. They've been up for years too.

>>12339554
Yes, then I freely admit into 2D children, 2D foot and 2D traps.

Is liking sexual drawings a crime now?

>>12339404
>>12339488
I'm not talking about the "liking loli makes you a pedo" stuff, only teenage faggots from /a/ and "hip" anime communities like MAL think otherwise.

I'm talking about the thought crime, "perverted jap toons are gonna normalize child fucking in society" shit more towards the end. The Bebop + Shamploo line seemed a little too cliched to be genuine as well.
>>12339566
Man there's straight up nudie vids on the Tube.

>>12339568
You're making the assumption that pedophilia is inherently bad or illegal, which it isn't, especially if you only like 2D.

>>12339573
I'm simply asking because pedophilia isn't looked upon as in a good light, especially in the US.

I personally don't care what people think since I'm into Candy Doll as well.

>>12339554
Anyway, let's get back to the argument.
I kill people in GTA, they are polygon people, they are victims nonetheless, so am I a killer or that I like killing people, even if they are polygons?

>>12339585
>am I a killer
No one actually dies in GTA, no. I think you are under the impression that pedophile = kiddy diddler.

>>12339569
>I'm talking about the thought crime, "perverted jap toons are gonna normalize child fucking in society" shit more towards the end.
From an outsider perspective it's already normalized there. The fact CP possession wasn't banned until last month says a lot about Japan's views on pedophilia.
The "issue" is that everyone else doesn't think the same way they do about it. It's only an "issue" because of groups of people such as feminists or religious nuts who think their moral values are the right moral values.

The guy in the video obviously is relying on that fact, meaning his arguments are shit in that regard, but as far as his arguments against /a/'s "loli isn't pedo" bullshit goes, he's fine.

>>12339576
You're asking a silly rhetorical question. Of course it's not illegal. Morally wrong? Depends on your background, but if you're not hurting anyone why should anyone care?

>>12339585
People in GTA don't exist. Murder requires a victim. You could argue you're murdering them in game but that doesn't mean you're actually committing murder in the real world.
Pedophilia on the other hand is an attraction. It doesn't require action or a victim and most definitions include having fantasies about children as a prerequisite for being a pedo.
Loli is a depiction of children and lolicons get off to the cute, innocent features that come with that. Sure, there's loli with hips, tits, etc. but the main features that define loli are the childish aspects which are universal to lolicon material.
Please don't try to argue loli doesn't HAVE to be children either, the term lolicon is short for Lolita Complex; Lolita coming from the book of the same name about a pedophile who is in a relationship with his underaged step-daguther.
In Japanese it's a connotation of "girl loving pedophile".

>>12339597
What about the second part:
>so am I a killer or that I like killing people, even if they are polygons?
You can have homicidial tendency without killing anyone, which is like being a pedo.

>>12339603
As said, the argument with Jack Thompson wasn't about you committing crimes by killing people in GTA, it's about the games encouraging to have a homocidial tendency by encouraging you kill people in various ways. This is damaging in his theory because it makes you to act out and kill real people.

This can be interpreted as 2D lolis making you want to molest real girls.

The problem isn't the action, it's the games/lolis encouraging you to perform certain actions.

>>12339603
>You're asking a silly rhetorical question. Of course it's not illegal. Morally wrong? Depends on your background, but if you're not hurting anyone why should anyone care?
There are victimless crimes nowadays.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victimless_crime

Like carrying a rifle openly, you literally hurt no one, but you can still be fined/put in jail.

It's a lot easier to rationalize fucking children than murdering people, so people worry more about it.

>>12339635
If that is so, that is hypocrisy.

>>12339603
>but as far as his arguments against /a/'s "loli isn't pedo" bullshit goes, he's fine.
Right. To clarify, that wasn't what I was talking about when I called that a troll video.

>>12339638
I don't see how it is.

What I don't get is why such a large fuss is made over people who merely use or posess 3d/loli material. Shouldn't the real targets of the law enforcement be the actual producers and distributors of such content? I heard that since that's much more difficult in comparison to just catching idiots who type things into google without knowing, that they don't bother with the big fish. Also that bumping them off would make less work for them to legitimize themselves.

I think it's very disturbing that law enforcement willingfully allows kids to suffer in order to maintain their presence. Is police corruption really that bad in states and other countries? In Canada it is so-so, much better in small counties but in cities it is like usual.

>>12339650
Both are supposed to be illegal acts, but one is somehow more "looked" upon than the other, even when murder is clearly more popular in statistics.

>>12339653
>actual producers and distributors of such content
your municipal police force lacks both the ability and jurisdiction to prosecute mafia pedophile rings in backwater slavic shitholes

i don't know what you expect from your corner cops

>tfw Finnish
>our police doesn't give a shit about loli
>Americans will never touch us because we're on Uncle Putin's doorstep
>Russia will never touch us because the rest of the world would go into high alert
>be dead before China takes over the world
It's a good life.

Actual child fiddling is the high class crime.

The upper echelon all engage in it (look at some celebs getting caught with it in recent years), but they don't want the plebs to have that right. Also, producing CP gets more money from the plebs as well.

Gun running is the same sense in the fact it keeps the guns from the plebs.

>>12339656
uh, no

something like 2% of children are molested, but 2% of people are not murdered

also those 2% of people are usually being chronically molested, whereas most people who are murdered are only murdered once

>>12339666
Pretty bold claim, I would like to see the source and the researcher and the definition of molestation by the researcher.

>>12339620
No one is arguing that loli makes you like 3D, so I don't see what your point is.

>>12339634
That's great. I didn't say it wasn't illegal though, I said why should anyone care?
Using your example, why should anyone care that you're carrying a rifle openly?

>>12339664
>Also, producing CP gets more money from the plebs as well.
What makes you think anyone gets money from CP?
The only money anyone is making off children in relation to sex are things like Junior Idols and non-nude child models. There was like one studio in Ukraine that did nude pictures but they got raided.

>>12339661
Finnish masterrace

>>12339671
>No one is arguing that loli makes you like 3D, so I don't see what your point is.
One is arguing that liking 2D doesn't matter, because 2D is still children nonetheless.

The same argument can be used for killing people in GTA, you still kill people, even if they are polygons.

>Using your example, why should anyone care that you're carrying a rifle openly?
A lot of people do, just google various open carry laws in the world.

And you did say "Of course it's not illegal" in the previous post.

>>12339657
Can't bigger and stronger groups do something? Who can make a difference?

>>12339676
For some reason, people bought into that "child porn is a billion dollar industry" shit.

>>12339676
If anything is rare and illegal, one can make money off it.

The same for CP.

>>12339685
Child porn might be not, but child sex rings?

Could be.

>>12339681
>One is arguing that liking 2D doesn't matter, because 2D is still children nonetheless.
Yes. That is not even remotely similar to saying 2D makes you like 3D.

>The same argument can be used for killing people in GTA, you still kill people, even if they are polygons.
They're not people, they're representations of people. You can argue you're murdering them within their universe (which also doesn't exist) but in our real world you're not.

>A lot of people do, just google various open carry laws in the world.
Your reading comprehension is pretty bad. I asked why anyone should care, not if anyone cared.
People care, I get it, but WHY should they care? No one is being harmed.

>>12339686
That's great, but there's no evidence of widespread professional CP production. The vast majority of it is made by the pedos themselves and then uploaded for trading or sharing.

>>12339676
And those kids were really fucking poor. Their families got to eat thanks to posing nude for creepy pedos.

>>12339699
I'm not speaking for or against it, I'm just stating that it's one of the very few professional CP producers that have ever existed in the Internet connected world.

>>12339685
Are you kidding? It may not be a billion dollar industry but there's defintely tons of money they make. Did you hear about some French guy who got caught paying something like 20k to have a recording made? The guy he paid was said to do that for years and I'm pretty sure he's more than well off.

>>12339695
>They're not people, they're representations of people. You can argue you're murdering them within their universe (which also doesn't exist) but in our real world you're not.
So I'm not attracted to children, but representation of children, and only in their universe because they don't exist?
>People care, I get it, but WHY should they care? No one is being harmed.
I don't know either, ask lawmakers, ask people who are scared of seeing an open carry gun.

But no matter WHY, the fact is the law is there.

>>12339708
And here I quote
>Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children, generally age 11 years or younger. As a medical diagnosis, specific criteria for the disorder extends the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.[1][2][3][4] A person who is diagnosed with pedophilia must be at least 16 years of age, but adolescents who are 16 years of age or older must be at least five years older than the prepubescent child before the attraction can be diagnosed as pedophilia.[1][2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophillia
Seems like to be a pedo, you have to be attracted to actual children, not images, not representation, actual children.

But either ways, I'm comfortable with self-admitting that I am a pedo, nothing wrong with that.

>>12339670
source: violence against women - an EU-wide survey

definition of molestation - women were asked

Before the age of15, how often did an adult who was 18 years or over do the following to you, when you did not want them to?
• Expose their genitals to you.
• Make you pose naked in front of any person or in photographs, video or an internet webcam.
• Touch your genitals or breasts against your will.
• Make you touch their private parts – genitals or breasts.
• Force you to have sexual intercourse.

>>12339684
the national police forces of eastern european countries who are being paid off by the mafia

yeah i guess you're shit out of luck

>>12339718
>• Expose their genitals to you.
Never mind the rest, how the fuck is this molestation?

>>12339718
also the EU report said that the number was actually 12%

but that seemed a little high so i rounded it down

>>12339712
>Seems like to be a pedo, you have to be attracted to actual children, not images, not representation, actual children.
Exactly. I only like 2d bara, I guess that doesn't make me a homosex.

>>12339729
That is true, unless you believe you are killing people in GTA, even if they are just polygons.

>>12339724
it's actually listed under another category in the survey (which is shit, by the way, not in terms of statistical robustness but the assumptions it makes), so it's not really molestation, just sexual offenses against children

>>12339733
....how is this sexual offense at all?

Like if you are bathing the kid, and both of you are naked, she sees your dick and that means you just sexually offend her?

Another thing is that this report doesn't touch up on male kids, but that will probably raise the number.

>>12339718
i found the breakdown, it was a bit farther down:

8% - unwanted exposure
1% - child pornography
5% - had lady parts touched
3% - made to touch perpetrator's genitals
1% - rape

>>12339708
>So I'm not attracted to children, but representation of children, and only in their universe because they don't exist?
No, you're a real person and you have a very real attraction to (2D) lolis that have many traits in common with 3D children. You enjoy lolicon material which is made with the intention of showing child like traits such as innocence, cuteness, undeveloped bodies, etc.
The way human sexuality works isn't by whether something is real or not. Many people have fetishes that can't possibly exist in reality, such as GTS or being the meal in vore, that doesn't mean they don't have them though.

Killing characters in a video game isn't even remotely similar to killing an actual person. For one you realize they're not real, so that already takes away a huge part of what is means to murder, which is end another human's life. These characters can be designed to have the illusion of intelligence and emotion, trying to evoke empathy from you, but in the end they really don't. They can't think and they don't experience emotions like a real person does.
If for some reason you DO see these characters are real people and you DO enjoy killing them, then yes, you probably have murderous tendencies, but almost everyone can tell reality from fiction, no matter how immersed you are.

>But no matter WHY, the fact is the law is there.
Which doesn't mean anything. Being a pedophile isn't illegal, looking at children with lust also isn't illegal. Molesting them is, but that is an action, not a simple attraction.

>>12339744
That 8% is literally not abuse.

And the actual graphic part, CP and rape are 1% and 1% respectively.

This is lower than murder.

>>12339749
so there's nothing wrong with molesting a child or forcing her to give you a hand job

that's cool, i guess

>>12339732
Anon, being a pedo just means you like children. This is like "Even though I'm a male who likes adult big breasted women, I'm not heterosexual because it's only 2d".

>>12339754
It's touching.

There's no indication that it's a handjob.

>>12339712
>Seems like to be a pedo, you have to be attracted to actual children, not images, not representation, actual children.
And where does it say that?

>>12339758
sexual intercourse: "[By sexual intercourse we mean here oral sex, forced anal or vaginal penetration]"

if i made a girl jack me off until i came on her face that wouldn't qualify

>>12339747
>No, you're a real person and you have a very real attraction to (2D) lolis that have many traits in common with 3D children.
>For one you realize they're not real, so that already takes away a huge part of what is means to murder, which is end another human's life. These characters can be designed to have the illusion of intelligence and emotion, trying to evoke empathy from you, but in the end they really don't.
By your own wording, 2D children aren't really like 3D children at all, since they lack real intelligence and emotion, and they just look like them.
>The way human sexuality works isn't by whether something is real or not. Many people have fetishes that can't possibly exist in reality, such as GTS or being the meal in vore, that doesn't mean they don't have them though.
Pedophillia is not even a fetish, it's considered a "psychiatric disorder", basically a sickness.
>Which doesn't mean anything.
It means a crime where no one is hurt exists and is put into actual law.

It means that in the eyes of the laws, even if you hurt no one, you can still commit a crime.

>>12339756
I'm just quoting wikipedia here friend. And really, some 2D big breasted-kind do not exist IRL.
>>12339765
>Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children, generally age 11 years or younger. As a medical diagnosis, specific criteria for the disorder extends the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.[1][2][3][4]
It even gives off the age of said child clearly.

>>12339774
>By your own wording, 2D children aren't really like 3D children at all, since they lack real intelligence and emotion, and they just look like them.
Pedophilia doesn't require you to be attracted to a real child, it requires you to be attracted to children. To be a murderer you must actually kill someone who exists.
I don't know why I have to keep repeating this to you.

>Pedophillia is not even a fetish, it's considered a "psychiatric disorder", basically a sickness.
Homosexuality was also a "psychiatric disorder" until a few decades ago. The only difference between it being a "disorder" and sexual attraction are wording. In the end they're both the same thing regardless of whether it's an affliction or orientation.

>It means a crime where no one is hurt exists and is put into actual law.
Please quote me where I said such laws don't exist. If you're going to quote me saying "pedophilia isn't illegal" then show me laws that say it's illegal.

>>12339778
>Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children
It says pedos are attracted to children who haven't reached puberty. Nothing about real girls.

>generally age 11 years or younger
It's generalizing the ages at which children stop being prepubescent and start being pubescent. Nothing about real children yet.

>As a medical diagnosis, specific criteria for the disorder extends the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.
It's mentioning the medical definition (which differs from the psychological definition) goes beyond the start of puberty to the arbitrary age of 13.
Nothing in that definition even implies anything about real children at all.

>As a medical diagnosis, specific criteria for the disorder extends the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.[1][2][3][4]
huh, that line wasnt there the last time i checked that
like ten years ago
because im not a fucking noob shitbaby

>>12339799
>Pedophilia doesn't require you to be attracted to a real child, it requires you to be attracted to children. To be a murderer you must actually kill someone who exists.
>I don't know why I have to keep repeating this to you.
Because by your own wording, the 2D children I'm attracted do not exist, they are representation of children, NOT children, just like the polygons in GTA are not people. I can use this logic against you.
>Homosexuality was also a "psychiatric disorder" until a few decades ago. The only difference between it being a "disorder" and sexual attraction are wording. In the end they're both the same thing regardless of whether it's an affliction or orientation.
Well, the difference is that pedo, by now, is still regarded as a sickness, and that's all I'm going to say.
>Please quote me where I said such laws don't exist. If you're going to quote me saying "pedophilia isn't illegal" then show me laws that say it's illegal.
Hey man, I ask you, don't ask me something I don't know.
>It says pedos are attracted to children who haven't reached puberty. Nothing about real girls.
It specifices about the age of said girls, if you want to be pedantic, some 2D lolis are way off that age, are we supposed to not count them now? Or are we just judging thing based on "well, they look like children so they are children!" and ignore the age angle?

if all drawn loli was obliterated from this earth you'd totally be jacking it to junior idols (if you didn't kill yourself first)

who are you kidding

>>12339811
dude really this is babies first im not a pedo argument can it already didn't you say you were into child modelling you should be past this shit

>>12339819
I'm just have having fun arguing.

I already admit that I'm a pedo right there>>12339712

It's just that this guy's argument has holes.

>>12339821
It doesn't, you're just a moron.

>>12339821
>I already admit that I'm a pedo right there>>12339712 #

tips.fbi.gov

>>12339826
It actually does, by going the representation of children angle, and ignoring the age angle.

This is basically boiling down to "wow, you are attracted to something LOOK like children therefore you are a pedo", while pedophillia is about being attracted to children, like with actual age and shit.

>>12339811
>Because by your own wording, the 2D children I'm attracted do not exist, they are representation of children, NOT children, just like the polygons in GTA are not people. I can use this logic against you.
Dude, holy shit. You are fucking misunderstanding the usual argument people jump to.

You are still a pedo if you like 2D lolis.
You are a homosexual if you're a guy and like only 2D porn of homosexual men.
You are also a heterosexual if you're a guy like only 2D women, no matter how fucking hard you despise 3D women.

10/10 if troll

>>12339828
but I thought pedophillia isn't illegal ;_;

>>12339834
And I'm homocidal tendency when I like killing people in GTA. And a killer when I kill polygon people in Manhunt.

No, saying statements doesn't work without backing it up.

>I'm just have having fun arguing.
eh fair enough i'll leave you to it

>>12339816
w-we do that too

>>12339835
it's not

>>12339816
/jp/ was the only board that needed to have mods step in and say "No junior idols allowed"

>>12339834
I think you just need to understand 2D != 3D dude

3D deals with reality which is usually nothing like the idealised 2D

>>12339846
so why you are posting fbi?

Actual, this brings up a good argument?

Am I a homosexual if I fap to 2D traps?

>>12339872
i wouldn't say "homosexual," no. but at least a little bit queer, yeah

but anybody who's anybody is a little bit queer so

>>12339831
>ignoring the age angle.
>>12339831
>pedophillia is about being attracted to children, like with actual age and shit.
Being a pedophile just means you like children that look pre pubescent. 2D or not.

>>12339831
Well yes. In your mind, what is it? The protagonist is plowing his little sister's 10 year old pussy. Would it help you see if you think about stories and imagination together with drawings?

>>12339890
>Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children, generally age 11 years or younger.
It doesn't say loo, bruda.

>>12339896
>it doesn't say look*

>>12339896
>Pedophilia has a range of definitions, as found in psychiatry, psychology, the vernacular, and law enforcement.
Epic

>>12339891
In my mind, I'm already a pedo.

I'm just poking holes in your argument.

In your situation, if the lil sister happens to be retconned to be older and not blood related, then the protagonist isn't committing any crimes.

>>12339902
So basically, it's whatever anyone want it to be, pretty hard to argue for and/or against.

Anyway, pedo dude here.

Gotta sleep, cya later.

>>12339905
pretty much everyone pursuing imouto route would find that absolutely fucking retarded as a plot twist unless it was part of some stupid gag and even then it would still be dumb

what exactly are you trying to achieve with these bullshit scenarios

>>12339872
If you were homosexual you would just fap to dudes

It's still kindagay but not above 50%

>>12339872
Not sure if gay.

But definitely not straight.

>>12339905
You aren't poking anything.
>>12339910
Don't come back.

>>12339915
Well, I remember this one thead in /lgbt/ about some lesbian who had fantasies about men screwing her. But she said she was not attracted to them, just to being fucked by men. Does that count?

>>12339934
There's an anon on /ghost/ who says he isn't attracted to kids, he just wants to use their bodies to jack off.

>>12339811
>Because by your own wording, the 2D children I'm attracted do not exist, they are representation of children, NOT children, just like the polygons in GTA are not people. I can use this logic against you.
Are you the one fucking the children?
No? Then that logic doesn't apply.
Are you getting sexual gratification from a sexualized depiction of children?
Yes? What are people are are attracted to children?

>Well, the difference is that pedo, by now, is still regarded as a sickness, and that's all I'm going to say.
That's great. Like I said before though it doesn't change anything.

>It specifices about the age of said girls
No, it generalizes them. That's what "in general" means. Pedophilia is very specific in being an attraction to prepubescent children. The reason they give a generalized age range is because different people enter puberty are different ages.
I don't even see how listing an age can logically lead anyone to think they are only talking about real children.

>some 2D lolis are way off that age, are we supposed to not count them now?
Do they have traits the same traits that children do while looking like children? It's loli.

He's talking about hiccups of the heart in an emotional sense.

Very poetic way to put it.

>>12339680
What's with the chink newspaper?

look at what this thread turned into because of that one fucking video

>>12339936
He can get a loli dutch wife if that is the issue.

>>12340014
Hardly the same.

>>12340001
Lots of Japanese packages sometimes use their newspapers as packing paper.

>>12340016
But it's just the body, right? If he doesn't love them for their personalities or behavior, then why else?

https://wikileaks.org/wiki/An_insight_into_child_porn

>>12340052
I imagine even viewing that link would be a double whammy of watch-lists.

>>12340059
Use a VPN if you're worried about the Partyvan.

Rustle is dying?
How am I supposed to fap to lolis now?
Why does god hate pedos?

>>12335483
source of this gif?

>>12335459
>The fact you think little girls and bald vulva are sexy means you're sick.
>this faggot

>>12340059
I clicked on that link a few weeks ago and I haven't had any visits. Am I on a watch-list now. I'm starting to feel paranoid.

>>12340334
Everyone is on the watch list.

>>12340334
man why are people still worried about this stuff it's 2014
if these lists exist and/or were functional i wouldn't be here now

>>12340177
Search nicovideo for ふぉっくす紺子

>>12340334
American ISPs are now required by law to record and retain web activity of their customers for at least 6 months.

So if you're still not in prison in 6 months, then you're good to go.

>>12340395
Thank you how relieving some of my anxiety.

>>12340334
it's just curiosity. you may get put on a list, but even if you do, it's not like anybody will do anything about it in your case. there's no need to worry anon!

>>12340052
shoutouts for born in the worst place at the worst time

> Most live a deceptive double life, suffering from permanent fear for one's existence that their sexual orientation could be detected. If discovered, they could lose everything in an instant. They suffer more or less severe depression because they have hide it from the society to survive.
don't go to a psychiatrist and lie about your depressions and anxieties they'll just give you SSRIs or tricyclics or etc that won't help for shit i tried that shit for a long time and the only good thing you'll get out of it is benzos for anxiety (which are quite nice but please use responsibly)
on the depression front they basically can't do shit, i recommend looking at ketamine and analogues. mxe is a must try, 3-meo-pcp is interesting and more are always in the pipeline

for any of the above it's very easy to break into a habit of significant daily use of large quantities, which for any of the above will rapidly result in an unmanageable tolerance increase (meaning wallet pains and long term health complications). i recommend trying something like small 5-10mg MXE bumps a coupla times a day

>>12340334
The NSA likely has you on a watch list just for coming to 4chan.
However unless they have enough evidence to put you in jail for some crime you will not have any issues.
Looking at an article about child pornography that doesn't actually contain anything illegal won't get you in trouble.

>>12340508
Or just fap to junior idol videos on youtube and NND.

>>12340517
oh do this too release is necessary, but that's besides the point

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3RuwoL_Mt0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4B4vWyiZrI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y42_-4HlmZc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSWc9Q4l2ng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_seV-1ura8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBUskZCmUjE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uGaY_HqM78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G9BduyEfg4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTqm782Tnfo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZSPXHl088s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TSW9Qo5XEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIYk3V_SLWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6GRizsyg9M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYbRNuX_YNg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzUR7DpN6XE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBOhS88lpAs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuh-QmHLops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK3OkJQVkSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZtfAGjnePo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmvT9i5h28Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiLHGF8FJ1c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N652tBpW2Kg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjbqhEEc7B4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viW5sOK6n54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOqXAK4YpcA

>>12340542
where are the black loli you racist

>>12340542
What the fuck?
Are these even legal?

>>12340594
Yes, panty shots are illegal. Better melt your hard drive before the cops show up.

>>12340594
of courshe

>>12340542
Sick fuck.

>>12340508
K is pretty hard to get though!

>>12340627
>your tip has been submitted

>>12339934
That doesn't make any sense, she's clearly attracted to them but is too much of a feminist to admit it. Stop hanging out with that scum.

>>12340643
I-it's not like I like you or anything, baka! I just want to feel your big hot cock inside me, that's all!

>>12340627
JUSTICE

get that faggot

>>12340643

>>12340542
>>12340560
>>12340594
>>12340627
>>12340639
>>12340670
What did I miss?

>>12340685
Some guy posted underage girls doing handstands with a dress on. I think they were all of that because I only looked at the first one

>>12340685
youtube videos

>>12340685
Lurking until you figure out how to use the archive.

>>12340693
foolz is kill he can't find those post

>>12340685
Justice being served on a nasty degenerate

>>12340695
>foolz

>

>>12340695
wwwwwww

>>12340689
I'll never understand what's with internet pedos and their unexplainable necessity to show off.
>look at me I downloaded non nude sets hurr am I cool yet?
I'm quoting you're mom.

>>12340701
>show off
>by posting youtube videos
quoting your mom

>>12340705
Oh, didn't know it was youtube. Either way,
>watching borderline cp
>on a google owned service
Shame's on you. I'm quoting my dick in you're ear.

>>12340705
Showing you own ANY pedophilia content is showing off even if it's non nude

it's like saying

>see i'm a dirty pedophile and you can't do anything about it

or

>see I dl this too can I fit in yet?

>>12340717
Well if it was actually illegal it'd not even be viewable.

You can't find actual porn on youtube anymore.

>>12340717
>borderline CP

See >>12340606

>>12340721
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vjPBrBU-TM
are they gonna arrest all those 100 million people

>>12340729
Time to fap

>>12340721
>pedophilia content
Pic related is the 10 times worse than anything shown off in those videos. Chill the fuck out.

>>12340721
Probably because people like to be among people who are like minded.
Pedos want to be around other pedos, weeaboos around other weeaboos, fags around other fags, etc.

>>12340729
HAHA NIGGA YOU HAVE THAT SHIT SAVED? NIGGA WALK AWAY FROM YOUR SCREEN NIGGA HAHA GET READY FOR THAT VAN NIGGA HAHA

>>12340761
you'll be in the van next to me :^)

>>12340761
>>12340764
Future butt buddies

>>12340765
the top bunk is mine

What the fuck is wrong with this board?
A bunch of pedo shit got posted and you aren't phased at all?
Fucking seriously?

>>12340770
You gone have to rec for your bunk. Watch Louis Thorax's Mega Jail Miami I think it's something like that there are two parts but only the first is important

>>12339941
>Are you getting sexual gratification from a sexualized depiction of children?
Things that look like children.
>I don't even see how listing an age can logically lead anyone to think they are only talking about real children.
Because they specify the age group, even if it's "general", lolis have no specific age group because they are fictional beings.
>Do they have traits the same traits that children do while looking like children? It's loli.
So loli just look like children, therefore they are children? No, that does not work. For example, an airsoft pistol is not a pistol, despite looking like the real thing.

>>12340774
What's getting up in arms gonna do about it?

>>12340774
4chan has always had cp posted since it was made. You're also on the board that has junior idols and touhou loli doujins and what have you. I wouldn't be surprised if 99% of the people here have masturbated to loli 2D or 3D

I'm on that 1% nigga

>>12339913
To prove that you can have fuck a loli without pedophilia.

>>12340774
I remember the day when actual CP get posted and nobody fucking mind.

4chan gotten real fucking soft for several years.

>>12340774
what's wrong with this?

>>12340774
>Pedos? In MY 4chan?

It's more likely than you think.

>>12340774
I am fazed by the fact that illiterate anons such as yourself keep bumping this normie attracting thread.

>>12340788
Me in the middle

>>12340774
>>/jp/thread/S88707

Welcome to /jp/. Enjoy your stay.

>>12340784
...damn, I meant to prove that you can fuck a loli without pedophilia.

>>12340818
Please remove your post thanks

>>12340843
Censorship!

>>12340787
seriously lmao at the people getting paranoid here, it's not like they were tricked into browsing 2ch.ru or anything

>>12340853
This thread doesn't seem the usual Jay crew, more normies than usual.

>>12340868
Some mod made a thread about the hilarious awoo meme on /b/ twice.

>>12340853
There's nothing bad there so why would anyone need to be "tricked?" You are literally stupid

>>12340774
if that was "pedo shit" then you better just put all children in a hole and burn them now

>>12340903
Killing all children would end pedophilia, though. Just saying.

>>12340877
yeah, that'd because it doesn't exist anymore.

every time i ever saw a link to it on an english imageboard (while it existed) it was because it was completely flooded with massive shitloads of cp

>>12340906
This anon speaks the truth, we should also kill all men to finish the fags, and then the woman to destroy the dikes

>>12340906
So men then would have no choice then but to fuck some old dirty loose hole like yours right lard arse?

>>12340923
Blow up the earth to stop pollution. Kill all humans to end war and racism.

>>12340781
If we followed your faulty logic then fapping to 2D feet wouldn't make you a footfag. We've already been over this.

>>12340965
It makes you a 2D footfag, because 2D foot aren't 3D foot, just like an airsofter is not a gun owner despite liking and owning gun-like objects.

You can't say because something look like something, then it must be something, that is faulty logic.

>>12340972
So what does reading erotic loli literature make you?
A book pedo? Who exactly are you trying to fool here, /a/?

>>12340781

See >>12339902

Just stop.

>>12340974
It makes you a dude who read erotic loli literature.

Ton of people read lolita, are they all pedophiles?

>>12340975
No, see>>12339907

You stop.

>>12340979
>lolita
>erotic loli literature

I want to............................

have s** with an underager! (only 2D so the FBI doesn't kill me)

>>12340974
It makes them a 1D sexual of course.

>>12340974
Although a person could enjoy 2D exclusively or 3D exclusively, literature is not a matter of dimension and would allow people with exclusive interests to find common ground.

>>12340975
If a single, strict definition is not given then there can be no solution to the argument.

>>12340985
....it is literature involving erotic contents (in this case, sexual attraction) with a young girl, or step-daughter in this case.

>>12340993
It's a pretty good book anon, you should read it.

Alternatively, if you have read it, look up what erotic literature actually is.

>>12341003
I don't read it but I know what it is.

And I'm not the only one who have said it to be an erotic book:
>Lolita is frequently described as an "erotic novel", both by some critics but also in a standard reference work on literature Facts on File: Companion to the American Short Story.[2] The Great Soviet Encyclopedia called Lolita "an experiment in combining an erotic novel with an instructive novel of manners."[3] The same description of the novel is found in Desmond Morris's reference work The Book of Ages.[4] A survey of books for Women's Studies courses describes it as a "tongue-in-cheek erotic novel".[5] Books focused on the history of erotic literature such as Michael Perkins' The Secret Record: Modern Erotic Literature also so classify Lolita.[6]

Of course some people disagree, but the fact it has erotic contents is undeniable.

>>12340991
Serious question here, I though words and concepts don't have a dimension, why would Richard assign a dimension for words, which in the end are interpreted through a certain language.

If someone asks me for my ideal girl, then that girl is realized inside my mind, if I fall in love with said imaginary girl, would that love be 1D, 2D or 3D?

>>12341020
Following that logic, it would be 0D because it's imaginary.

If you write about her, she becomes 1D because she isn't simply in your mind, other people can read her know.

If you draw her, she becomes 2D.

If you model her, she becomes 3D.

>>12341020
I don't think dimensions can be applied here. It should be undefined.

>>12341020
Because the information is serial I guess. Like a line vs a plane. You could call sound 1D too although it is all arguable.

So to repeat, if you think because something looks like something/shares some similar traits, then it must be something, that's faulty logic.

A loli might look a child, might act like a child, but she might not be/is not a child, just like this shit might look like a PS3, might be called a PS3, but it's not a Sony Play Station 3.

Imitation exist, and they are not the same thing.

>>12341078
>if you think because something looks like something/shares some similar traits, then it must be something
That's not the argument. The argument is if you like looking at pictures of something that looks like a little kid, you like little kids.

>>12341135
Is the picture of an actual kid? A photograph? Then yes. If not, then that's just an assumption you make.

>>12341135
The same shit applies.

It just means I might like something that looks like a little kid, but if that thing is not a little kid, then I do not necessarily like little kids, just like how for example, I like the PS2, but not something that looks like a PS2 like one of those polystation 2.

>>12341078
Yeah, but 2D loli is an imitation of 3D loli. If you like ripoff Playstation 3, you would likely like the real thing. Same thing with ripoff 2D loli and the real thing.

>>12341156
>Is the picture of an actual kid? A photograph? Then yes
not necessarily. occasionally types of child modelling can arouse adults that are not pedophiles. the taboo factor and the mature aspects of the imagery and blah blah blah are appealing despite the person in question actually not being A Pedophile. it's true! uncommon, but with that in mind this argument is juvenile and hella played out

jerking it to an highly fictionalized 2d loli from time to time does not make you A Pedophile. but if you're primarily jerking it to lolis you really might wanna take a look in the mirror.
more importantly who gives a shit what 4chan thinks a lot of us admit that we are straight up pedos. like, whatever. that's why we're here

>>12341397
As said, an imitation is not the real thing.
>likely
Getting into the assumption realm, bro.

>>12341560
I'm not afraid of admitting my pedophillia (I fap to real shit).

The problem is you should have a better fucking argument when you argue that fapping to a 2D image is the same as fapping to a real child, now that IS juvenile, faulty logic.

>>12341686
It's not the same people but people who jack off near-exclusively to loli are still pedophiles.

If you jack off exclusively to H-manga you are still straight even though none of the characters you're jacking off to are real life females.

Post pictures.

>>12340673
Source? Can't find anything from just this crop.

I enjoy masturbating to videos of little girls.