/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Who's your favorite Kongo? Mine is Kongo

>>12312393
>Oct 8
Ya blew it m8.

>Spanish and Dutch history lessons are also welcome.
I was around the last thread, but seriously? Putting this in OP?

>>12312410
OP has failed us.
Hopefully the thread surpasses his failure.

>>12312398
Please Anon, don't start another romanization shitpost fest.

Haruna>Kongou>Kirishima>Hiei

>>12312410
>>12312416
Sorry about that. Diarrhea and sleeping at four does things to you, anon.

>>12312393
Correction: Midway is on August 8.

>>12312426
There's another thread already although they fucked up too and linked to the /a/ thread somehow.

Which of these should I be posting in?

>>12312452
This one has Haruna so it's better

>>12312418
Only if you don't.

Kongoo > ∀

>>12312452
Just wait and see which one picks up more discussion or which one the mods leave unpruned.

>>12312456
Anyone knows that Fujikawa is better than Konishi.

>>12312452
I prefer the other OP image, but wrong thread was linked to, so this one it is.

>>12312426
What's the origin of this face. I think I've seen it before elsewhere.

>>12312479
http://youtu.be/IDAHKedBt3s

>>12312486
Thanks. I knew I saw it somewhere before.

This guy.

>>12312504
Love is this admiral's strategy.

did pvp reset 6 minutes ago?

>>12312520
Yeah, 1500 JST as always. Why?

>>12312520

It resets twice a day at 03:00 and 15:00 JST.

Don't forget to prepare your CAVs for Midway.

http://exhentai.org/g/724098/9ed62d17a5/
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/b1w8m08w0nhh6/Non-H

>>12312504
The strongest expedition fleet.

>>12312584
Change the Akatsukis to Yukikaze, Shigure, Yuudachi and Ayanami (all Kai 2 except Yukikaze) and then come back.

CLs might need a change too.

>>12312592

>>12312594
I kinda missed the old system.

>>12312594
What joke is there to even talk of?

It's weird when you see an admiral who marries the same ships as you.

>>12312625
>gif
Was there really a need?

>>12312572
Thank you.

>>12312629
Not really, most of image is flat colours so I saved it as a gif impulsively. I will save it as a PNG next time.

>>12312625
It's weird when you see other people have married two of the most popular ships?

If I wanted to drop money on a second ring I'd have Kongou + Kaga too.

>>12312646
Exactly two of them (or at least it's presented here) and showing them off in the PvP at the same time. I don't meet enough of them.

Why do we have 2 threads?

>>12312771
Freedom of speech.

What's the recipe for green and red shells?

>>12312784
300/300/300/300

>>12312774
We should make a third thread where all the lost sheep can gather together.

>>12312791
Two is enough.
In fact, two is too much, but I'll let the mods decide which one to keep.

>>12312795
>let the mods decide
absolutely disgusting

>>12312795
I prefer this thread because my goddess is in the op

>>12312784
The recipe is W / I / K / I

期間限定海域【AL作戦 / MI作戦】が作戦発動される予定です。作戦期間は約20日間の予定です。各提督の健闘を祈りま

>>12312986
Please no regen.

You can put Flagship Re with 5 BB hime in every node. Just no regen.

>>12312999
I want regen back, we have 20 days to suffer through it.

>>12313001
Except the reason regen is stupid is because you have to suffer all of it over a 12 - 24 hour period instead of the entire event duration.

>>12313003
It wasn't that bad, you deplete the boss bar except for the last bit, sleep 8 hours and only another sink would have regenerated by then, that was like a 15% or so of the total bar.

>>12313003
The event duration is long to give you time to prepare your attempts and recover if you mess up. All three events with regenerating health have been about this same length and I can only assume it's for that reason. Plus it's easier to set aside a day to marathon the event when you have an entire month instead of two weeks. But I'd prefer it if they just made maps take tons of kills to clear and used the length that way.

>>12313003
Exactly

Why put all fully modernized BBs in your fleet?

Fuck you

After over 80 times doing expedition 21 with four girls sparkled and getting 80 great successes I conclude that the rate is 100% or very close to it.

>>12313075

>>12313085
Yeah, I had seen that but wanted to try this thing by futaba to see if it was correct. After re-checking my manual log I counted 84 out of 84 great successes.

>>12313091
Since 3 sparkles are close to 100% already, there is no way 4 sparkles wouldn't.
Still, there probably will always be a small chance to not get great success, so 3 sparkles might already hit that cap.

>>12313094
I doubt there is a cap to it, every sparkled girl adds a 16.5% of great success, if you multiply it by 3 that makes a 49.5%, by 4 a 66% and the base added by the drums seems to be between 40% and 50% so it would only make sense for it to give great success always. I have gotten normal success from expedition 5 before with 6 girls sparkled because there's a 1% of it happening as well (6x16.5=99).

>>12313099
That also seems quite possible.

Rabaulians are cool guys.

>>12313109
They are also huge autists with those point totals, holy shit. One wonders if it's possible to use scripts to grind 5-4.

>>12313114
Rabaul server is more hardcore in terms of admiral point race. But I remember there's one admiral that reached 10k. Not Rabaul, but newer server, is it Hitokappu?

>>12313114
>>12313118
Palau has that one crazy guy too, just took this.

>>12313123
Look at how many doujin he could've bought

What if Akagi and Kaga get remodels that cost blueprints?

>>12313123
How the fuck

>>12313165
14 blueprints here. Bring it on.

>>12313165
6 medals here. I can complete 2-5 and 1-5 within a day so it's not bad.

>>12313165
Won't happen before the event now, would it?

>>12313201
No, on the day of the event like Tone class.

>>12313215
But that as hinted at before the event, wasn't it?

>>12313181
You might want to recount

>>12313221
Not sure it was.

>>12313224
I'm not sure either.

Well, I wouldn't mind First-Car div Kai-2s for the event, even if I'd need an event blueprint for both of them.

>>12313118
Hitokappu here, we're still casuals.

>>12313263

Well.

As expected of a 5 month old server.

>>12313331

My server (deer house) have a 7k plus ttk, other is normal just like yours.

New month, new idiots who do 5-5 before the event.

>>12313340
鹿屋 a new.

>>12313417
>idiots
Enjoy your no 1st car div kai2.

>>12313440
Sure

>>12313417
Hitting resource cap soon, I need to waste those resources before the event.

>>12313417
If you're at/close to the cap from stockpiling forever why not?

You can get most of the resources back in a week anyway.

What's the max resources you guys get in a week on NEET modo?

What if you can't go full NEET? What's a decent average yield per week?

>>12313417
Why bother, when it's likely that we'll get new botes after the event dropping from those stages?

>>12313460

>>12313464
Do more Tokyo Express

Is this Haruna?

>>12313479
Just think of how many times those sailors got off inside of her.

>>12313487
In fact, think about all the seamen that had entered into our ship daughters.

>>12313479
Good thing those Japs abandoned retarded right-to-left writing

>>12313498
Why they still read manga panels right to left? Is so stupid.

>>12313499
Go read corean shit then.

>>12313522
Does chinese manga read right to left?

>>12313587
I don't think so. It's also not called manga.

Right-to-left writing

>>12313592
What do the chinks call it?
chinga?

>>12313642
It's called google.

>>12313650

Isn't "google" copyrighted?

>>12313650
you might want to google and find out how to take that stick out of your ass.

>>12313674
No need to talk about unrelated shit for 500 hundred posts like in the last thread.

>>12313684
I used to have that mindset too. 10 months ago, there's literally nothing fresh to discuss right now, what do you expect?

>>12313684
Then post something related.
God, I hate posts like these.

On Midway note, what's the feel on regen health for Midway? Happening or not given it's a 20 day event?

>>12313674
Nah, that should be common knowledge here.

>>12313699
>Then post something related.
>God, I hate posts like these
Fuck you. I was just saying that it's better to post nothing at all than to talk about God knows what.
And it's happening.

>>12313699
could be either, really.

Do you guys ever feel bad for Maruyu and bring her along for sub slaving even though she's near useless?

I just feel bad excluding her from normal sub activities like she isn't really a sub or something.

>>12313874
I let her run 2-3 with the others when she's not on an expedition.

>>12313874
Absolutely not and she was my first sub too.

>>12313874
She's usually the flagship. She's pretty close in level too.

>>12313874
Yes. I'm also trying to get her to 99 so we can get married.

>>12313874
I have no choice, she's one of my three subs.

I really want to scrap her sometimes.

Do anyone feel the effect of weapon overloading?
It looks like another placebo to me.

>>12313874
I always assign Maruyu to 2-3 subslaving, either to form 4 ships fleet or to act as decoy.

>>12313874
No, I take her along and she is pretty useful to me actually.
Using her I complete the daily repair quest in a matter of minutes.

How long until map reset?

>>12313940
How long until you give up and ask Google?

>>12313940
Just refresh your game/get a new api link if you are using it. It's like 80 minutes after reset already.

I have some questions about support fleets since I've never used them, specially the support shelling. I was reading the wiki but I still don't quite understand the formula.

In the example, they're using Kaga with 4 Suisei 12A, and given the formula:

55 + (1.5 * artillery) + ((1.5 * torpedo) * slots) + ((2.0 * divebomb) * slots )

It would be something like this:

55 + (1.5 * 49) + ((1.5 * 0) * 4) + ((2.0 * 10) * 4)

So Kaga's firepower should be 208.

But then, it wouldn't be better if you put 2x 15.5cm, 1 Suisei 12A and 1 Ryuusei? Or the formula only takes the base stats, making it useless to equip any torpedo bombers on CV/CVLs?

>>12313947
>80 minutes after reset
It's 0223 JST right now, Anon. Are you sure your own clock is set right?

>>12313874
>I just feel bad excluding her from normal sub activities like she isn't really a sub or something.
I share your sentiments. I don't even like her voice but leaving her out of sub slaving is like leaving out the fun from that awkward kid in the playground

>>12313947
Looks like I missed another month then, woops.

>>12313954
Oops, looks like the time zone stuff screwed me again.

>>12313952

Oh shit, disregard this, I suck cocks and got the formula wrong.

So previously, the "best" choices for marriage in terms of benefits gained were the Hotels, Taihou, or Nagato. In light of the mechanics changes in recent patches, would you still say this is the case?

>>12313970
It's okay Anon. We all make mistakes.

>>12313973

The best choice still is marrying the ships you love.

>>12313973
Marry Maruyu. She increases your luck.

>>12313973
>strategic marriage
Just marry the ships you love.

>>12313973
>Taihou, or Nagato
Since when?
And what happened to love?

>>12313952
Support fleets have still the soft cap, everything above 150 get square rooted, so there is no much points go over that.

>>12313977
>>12313979
>>12313982
Love doesn't win wars.

>>12313986
Yes it does

Does ranking points for July stop at midnight or 3 am August 1st?

>>12313986
Love of country? Love of family?

>>12313986

I wish I had those screencaps of some TTK clearing spring E5 with his level 150 Kasumi.

>>12313977
>>12313979
>>12313982
>mai waifu XD

I'm disappointed in you, /jp/. You guys sound like the retarded fucks from /a/ or the wiki right now. I'm asking this not because this Japanese internet browser game is super difficult, hardcore, and competitive, but because I figured you all had the capacity to consider the best possible options in a detached and rational way.

>>12313995
You're expecting rational thinking from /jp/?
You might as well kindly fuck off.

>>12313995

Well, you could go back to /a/ then.

>>12313995
For what reason are you playing this neither super difficult, hardcore, or competitive dice-rolling game if not for the girls? And what reason to play for the girls if not to find some you love?

You seem to imply your viewpoint isn't popular in /a/ either, so feel free to find a corner of /v/ or /vg/ that suits you.

>>12313995
It's a browser game about cute girls. You marry the girls that you think are the cutest. The stat boosts aren't all that earth shattering.

>>12313995
>Having feelings = retarded
>Not making things clear from the start and whining about it later.
I'm all for rational thought when the time calls for it, but calling people out when you're so fucking vague and nonsensical is just priceless.

>>12314008
But he was pretty clear though.

>>12313995
And you sound like a disgusting /v/ tard. Like those who uses the ugliest class in a MMO just because they are suppose to be the strongest instead of something you like.

>>12314014
A rational person wouldn't make sweeping generalisations about an anonymous image board.

>>12314004
>For what reason are you playing this neither super difficult, hardcore, or competitive dice-rolling game if not for the girls?

I like naval history, and the Pacific War in particular interests me. The fact that this game is free and that I can play it while doing other things helps too. Also--and I'm probably alone in feeling this way--it would not bother me in the slightest if the ships were represented as actual ships rather than Japanese cartoon women.

>>12314020
But you couldn't fap to them if they were just actual ships.

To be the devil's advocate, married ships in PvP tend to be more durable. They evade more and seem to take more chip damage. Granted, they are not nigh invincible but they can hold on their own so if anything, a more 'rational' person should be marrying his DD just for the added survivability.

>>12314025
You've never been on /m/

>>12314014
I meant earlier. >>12313973

And why pose this question again? Who the fuck cares about why and who you marry? It's been answered time and time again: strategic or love-it's all the same; just fucking go with what you think is best and shut up when other people do otherwise.

>>12314025
He's a history otaku, anon. His sexual desire has ascended above any mere mortal's understanding.

>>12313995

Unless you can't buy more rings for some reason, you're pretty much bound to marry the ships you use the most since they're "useful" and they'll hit 99 eventually.

Grinding those "useful" ships to 99 brings no real benefit since the stat boost is really tiny and if you're grinding expensive ships like the hotels to 99, then you're probably retarded, since that tiny 15% resupply reduction will payoff in a very long time.

So yeah, you marry the ships you like because you either love them or find them pretty useful.

>>12314020

If you really like naval history there are a few games that you would probably enjoy more.

>>12314031
The most difficult event in the history of the game is fast approaching, and the quests for new equipment specifically require you to have done the marriage quest. If anything, now, more than ever, is when people who haven't already married a ship should be carefully considering which choice brings the most tangible benefits.

>>12314039
I've played Battlestations Pacific and I'm following the progress of World of Warships despite the fact that it's going to be ahistorical Russian bias: the video game. Is there anything else you would recommend?

>>12313973
>the "best" choices for marriage
>Taihou
Why would you marry a carrier, let alone putting her in higher order than Nagato?

>>12314027
>DD
It's better to marry a submarine, since the increased HP and evasion stats will have more significant impact on their survivability rather than on DD.

Does the beginning rankings of this month equal the ending rankings of the previous?

>>12314055
DD are probably more used for compass requirement and are more exposed to powerful enemies like Wo, Ta, Hime, etc.

>>12314050
>ahistorical Russian bias: the video game.
I still don't get why people say this. The first two nations are going to be the United States and Japan, Russia's going to be a secondary afterthought. Russia hasn't fought in a real surface naval engagement with anyone, but with the exception of less than twenty warships this was the case for all of the USN, RN, IJN, MN, Kriegsmarine or RM. Until we actually find out something about the Russian ships crying wolf over Russian Bias is undue.

>>12314055
But when I married Maruyu she's still shit.

>>12314063
At least in World of Tanks, the Russian bias falls off hard past tier six. I don't expect Warships to suffer from the same issue as Tanks.

>>12314046
I see your point now, though you could've been less abrasive and haughty about it.

Anyway, back to your question. Like >>12314055 said, SS is a good choice simply because of their vulnerability. I'd choose a DD over them though because >>12314061 .

However, the LOS requirements in event maps may force you to choose a BB/CA(V) to lift their LOS cap too. As with love, it your choice depends on your gut instinct and preferences.

>>12314064
Maruyu was always shit.

>>12314055
I wasn't listing those choices sequentially. I'm well aware that Nagato is a better choice, just because she ends up with as much HP as the hotels with a higher maximum luck and extremely low resupply costs.

That said, Taihou is worth consideration because marrying her has the potential to make her the most survivable carrier. A married Taihou will have the highest armor, second highest HP, and (potentially) 69+ evasion at level 150. That, combined with her ability to launch planes at orange, makes her a reasonable attractive option depending on your priorities.

>>12314064
>>12314072
She maybe shit but she's adorable shit.

>>12314063
Here's main example #1: Sovetsky Soyuz.

Their design is completely ahistorical, the original was planned with 9 16-inch guns set in 3 turrets with 2 fore and 1 aft.

Masochistic-type spotted

>>12314079
Can't argue with that.

>Their design is completely ahistorical, the original was planned with 9 16-inch guns set in 3 turrets with 2 fore and 1 aft.
Wargaming always pushes blueprints to their maximum suggested proposals, so do we know there were no proposals for a four-turreted ship? The historical Panzer IV never mounted a Panther Schmalturm, but there is a version of it in WoT because the proposal existed.

>>12314081
>Their design is completely ahistorical, the original was planned with 9 16-inch guns set in 3 turrets with 2 fore and 1 aft.
Wargaming always pushes blueprints to their maximum suggested proposals, so do we know there were no proposals for a four-turreted ship? The historical Panzer IV never mounted a Panther Schmalturm, but there is a version of it in WoT because the proposal existed. Until Wargaming explains it's too early to tell whether it's "ahistorical" within Wargaming's usual boundaries.

>>12314089
You shut your whore mouth.

>>12314064
Your fault for expecting a transport submarine to be not shit after you marry her.

>>12314050
>Battlestations Pacific
Have you played it with japanese VO in the IJN campaign?

>>12314081
I was just about to post this myself. The World of Warships implementation of the Soyuz has no basis in reality; it's just the Russian developers not wanting their own nation to be the weakest in the game (which it was, the USSR was as full retard with its ships as Japan was with its tanks).

The other problem (that the Soyuz is part of) is that the World of Warships developers did not learn from World of Tanks and are once again including experimental or blueprint-only ships that never even saw actual combat. How are you supposed to create an authentic experience with something like the Amagi-class when there's zero data on how it actually matched up against its contemporaries?

And no, Kaga doesn't count.

>>12314081
Now I don't want to suffer through Warships.

>>12314113
>>12314081
Uhh, do we know this is the Sovetsky Soyuz? According to
>http://wiredstar.com/WoWsWiki/New-Mexico-Class-USN-Battleship-BB.ashx?NoRedirect=1#Visuals_3
It's the New Mexico class.

>>12314103
Because the designs were complete and construction had even begun on the four ships of the class. Pictured here is Soyuz clearly showing mounts for only 3 turrets, it would have taken a complete redesign of the entire ship to incorporate a fourth turret as pictured in the World of Warships design above, and at that point it would be a completely different class (a Super Sovetsky Soyuz, if you will).

I just realized kiso's wife-line is reused from equipment/docking

Goddammit kadokawa

>>12314126
speaking of which, most new lines for ships voiced by Ayane Sakura have a very crappy recording quality.
What's even weirdier is that none of them have hourlies, even kiso and the sendai sisters despite they have their kai ni

>>12314126

A lot of ships are like this, I wish the devs would add new lines.

Is it worth keeping a second fleet of subs, considering how rare they are and more subslaving?

>>12314113
>I was just about to post this myself. The World of Warships implementation of the Soyuz has no basis in reality;
The ship designs were finalized and they were being built, what do you mean no basis in reality?

>The other problem (that the Soyuz is part of) is that the World of Warships developers did not learn from World of Tanks and are once again including experimental or blueprint-only ships that never even saw actual combat.
That's the great thing about World of Tanks. If you really want only ships that were mass-produced and that actually fought in surface engagements, War Thunder is probably your thing.

>How are you supposed to create an authentic experience with something like the Amagi-class when there's zero data on how it actually matched up against its contemporaries?
How are you supposed to do that with almost any ship? The vast majority of the ships mass-produced during World War II took part in surface combat.

>>12314132
It's quite apparent with Kiso k2's lines. How expensive is she nowadays anyway

>>12314134
Any other notable popular ones?

>>12314145
DIDN'T take part in surface combat

>>12314124
It seems like that picture isn't even the Sovetsky Soyuz, so this argument is kind of moot then.

>>12314113
What do you mean by the developers did not learn? They did learn that they can be quite succesful with it, so why change it?
They never intended to make a simulation, if you are looking for one you're looking in the wrong place.

That being said, the game itself is still bad due to the horrible game balance.

>>12314126
Kitakami's wife line is reused from her kai. I was pretty disappointed.

>>12314138
In general, subs are the only ships it's worth having multiples of.

With multiples, you can send the extras out on expeditions, use them for sparkling other ships, use them as tanks for level grinding, or subslave with them.

>>12314160
I see. Thanks for the advice. I've been using them as remodel fodder like a retard all this while...

>>12314103
This is like adding 120mm auto-cannon on Maus because germans propose to use it while ignoring the fact that auto-cannon just doesn't fit on tank. This is way beyond pants on head anon.

>>12314148

Yuudachi for example.

>>12314168
They make awful remodel fodder, except Maruyu of course. Now you know better.

Also, don't remodel your extras, except Maruyu of course. It just makes them take longer to repair.

>>12314182
>Wargaming added a proposal that could reasonably fit into the tank it was envisioned for
>B-but that's like adding a laser cannon on it!
No, it isn't like that at all. The schmalturm proposal was feasible in that it COULD fit in the turret ring, the issue was that it was a waste of money and the Panzer IV's suspension was overloaded anyway. The "ahistorical" versions of tanks in WoT are viable but sometimes flawed.

But again, the post i'm replying to is pointless anyway, because that anon stuck a picture of the New Mexico, called it the Soyuz Sovetsky and then was surprised it wasn't the Soyuz Sovetsky

>>12314194
Is there a Nevada?

>>12314192
>except Maruyu of course
Lel. Thanks for the laughs and the extra advice!

>>12314187
And she still doesn't have hourly notification lines despite of being one of the more popular ship out there.

>>12314202
doesn't seem like it, the renders I got from here.
>http://worldofwarships.com/media/?cat=4
I guess we'll see when the game goes into open beta

http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/917/917699/

It finally happened.

2hu is dead. Kancolle domination is unstoppable.

>>12314212
I hope there's a /jp/ beta group like there was with WoT.

>>12314229
PZMOE's pretty dead these days on WoT. I logged in yesterday and there were like three people on.

>>12314103
>Wargaming always goes full Soviet jerkfest

Here, corrected that for you.

>>12314221
Holy shit, when was the last time 2hu got surpassed again? 7 years?

I'm fearful for the longevity of kancolle though. There's only so many japanese ships you can use. Eventually they'll have to go for foreign ships like american and british ones

>>12314233
Six people on right now.

>>12314240
I don't think nips had a problem with German ships.

>>12314221
Holy fucking shit.

>>12314240
I can't wait for ships that are museum piece
>>12314243
Out of what? 91 people? That's still pretty dead. s now get added so I can take a picture of their picture/fig on that ship.

>>12314238
>Wargaming always goes full Soviet jerkfest
m8 are you just parroting what other people tell you. Soviet Bias is present only on Tier 6 heavies and tier 8-9 TDs.

>>12314221
I can't believe im@s has taken such a beating.

>>12314240
There's still a good number of IJN vessels, add German and Italian ones and they have enough girls for quite some time.

Then we'll get to the rest of the world but it'll take a while.

>>12314256
Love Live is the new im@s.

>>12314221
Touhou has declined.

>>12314233
I haven't been on for a couple weeks because I'm busy with other shit but a bunch of us were doing weekly tournaments.

>>12314262
Almost. They're growing fast, but they haven't dethroned 765pro yet.

One thing I think Love Live does better is exporting their product. Why Namco hasn't tried to milk foreigners more with more im@s products is beyond me.

>>12314221
That's astounding. I thought Kantai Collection had peaked last time and and was already halfway in the grave, and yet it's somehow grown while Touhou has diminished.

>>12314273
I kinda thought the same. I think from here it all depends on how well the anime does as an indication of where the franchise goes.

KanColle really has to break out into more multimedia avenues if its to have any real longevity. Would probably help if they lifted that ban on fan games as well.

>>12314271
really? Didn't Love Live cumberstomp Imas with the BD sales?
IIRC, Cinderella girls still fare well, so does million lives, but love Live mobage is getting bigger as we speak

>>12314299
The School Idol Festival cards are exactly why the BD sales were absurd. That game is a money making machine.

>>12314299
It did, but v1 came with an event ticket that inflated sales by like 60k.

(Also disc sales aren't everything, really.)

>>12314299
Again, Love Live definitely has the faster growth, but im@s is like a fucking institution in japan. Their mainstay games make a fucking fortune, although I don't think they're attracting as many new people these days as they used to.

The CG anime might change that though. Im@s needs to push more shit out though if they want to gain back some momentum.

>>12314266
I still can't believe Basugay made top 3 again.
Never underestimate the power of fujoshi, I guess.

>>12314330
Comiket is actually heavily biased toward "fujoshi" franchises, Kancolle and Touhou are on top only because they're just /too huge/.

(Hell, fucking Love Live is still lower than T&B...)

>>12314309
I agree. I think disc sales are good indicators of popularity for franchises limited to LN, manga, and/or anime, but not for the more broadly sweeping franchises that include lots of different forms of multimedia.

>>12314266
It's a little sad that Touhou is dying, but I guess this is the circle of life.

>>12314367
Maybe ZUN will add ship girls to his games just to keep it going.

>>12314374
I don't think ZUN even cares.

>>12314359
Maybe it's because I don't really follow franchises with cute boys, but it always surprises me how big the fujoshi presence in japan is to begin with.

>>12314383
They're not more numerous than in the US or whatever, you just don't notice them.

>>12314383
It's not that there are a lot of them, it's that they have far more disposable income than the NEETs who like cute girls.

>>12314393
I wonder why Kadokawa hasn't tried to tap into this market a bit more?

It wouldn't be that hard to do a KanColle type game with hunky bishonen. They could ramp up the pay content with clothes, accessories and shit and I bet it would do fantastic.

>>12314411
ManColle.
I can see it now.

>>12314411
Fairly sure somebody is working on some sort of Kancolle clone with dudes, don't "worry".

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24132392

That‘s a really fast one.

>>12314428
Never thought to keep multiple Yamato class ships. Looks like Fusou and Yamashiro have to go.

r8 my room

I'm black irl

>>12314438
nigger/10

>>12314438
I probably don't need to tell you, but that seems kind of racist.

>>12314454
Niggas love them some 10 u

>>12314411
>I wonder why Kadokawa hasn't tried to tap into this market a bit more?

Because they're already filthy rich off them.

>>12314359
I don't understand fujoshi, or perhaps I just do not understand their anime stereotype versions.

They seem to be the opposite of guys who only like lesbians, even though that seems to be a very minor population. Or is it some sort of self insert into a guy and imaging having a penis and do amazing stuff? If so, then wouldn't fujoshi be big on dickgirl content as well? (On men I assume).

Not to mention the entire A x Y stuff that seems completely irrelevant for us non-fujoshi that just thinks great sex is all that matters and roles are unimportant.

>>12314438
No Musashi secretary: 3/10.

>>12314485
>They seem to be the opposite of guys who only like lesbians

That's mostly correct.

The difference is that while yurifags are a small percentage of male fans, pretty much every female otaku nowadays eats up fujoshi stuff.

(It won't last, of course, but for now it's a thing. Maybe one day we'll see a yurifag period, who knows.)

>>12314485
For fujoshi, it's not about self-inserting, it's about being witness to a forbidden type of love. It's about seeing men, who are usually ugly, boring, and not very cute in both a vulnerable and powerful state.

It's the idea that gets fujoshi excited, not the actual visuals so much.

>>12314485
Women hate other women and fujoshi are just an extreme version of that where they want to watch men engage in sexuality but for there to not be a woman involved because they would feel insecure.

Some men are the same but there of less of them, hence why there are so few male yurifags on the level of fujoshi.

I hope we get Nagara kai ni.

>>12314506
Can't be Nachi's turn before?

Is anyone working on the medals?

>>12314529
Working on?

>>12314530
He meant clearing the EOs obviously.

>>12314533
Oh.
Not yet but I will soon since I won't have time during the event.

>>12314529
Soon. I'm trying to get my bucket count up a bit more before next week.

I was sitting on 600, but I got bored, cleared 5-3 finally and now I'm trying to get back to at least 650 before I work on anything else.

>>12314529
2-5 and 1-5 are easy enough so yeah.
Plus I still don't have whale.

>>12312784
Green = 10/90/60/30.
Red = 10/30/90/10.
Both = 10/90/90/30.

>>12313019
I thought last year's spring and summer events lasted only 2 weeks each? No?

>>12313498
>right to left writing
>retarded
Westerner pls.

>>12313587
>>12313592
>>12313642
It's called manhua. Not sure if it's right to left but I think it is.

>>12313923
She's better left unremodelled.

>>12314108
Not the same anon, but I have replayed the campaign for Japan (with and without Nip VO) 3x more than US one. Love the game to death especially with the right mods.

Shame I can't get any of the DLC's.

Speaking of which, where is Shinano (talking about Kantai now)?
And what about the version of Yamato with 20 inch main guns?

>>12314590
>inch
Fuck off, abyss.

>>12314590
> version of Yamato with 20 inch main guns?
It's not a fucking version. It's completely different design. The only similar things A-150 might have had in common with Yamato class would be superstructure. Just because retards called it "Super Yamato" doesn't mean it is modified Yamato class.

I don't see people calling montana design super iowa for fuck's sake, because that's fucking retarded.

>>12314050
> Is there anything else you would recommend?
Any of the Gary Grigsby's games will leave you with more then you'll ever want.

>>12314605
People call it "Super Yamato" because it does not have a proper name, unlike Montana.
Would still be retarded to make this the Yamato Kai 2.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24085716

Semi-related but what are some good pacific theater flying games? I'd ask for boat games but I'm pretty sure there aren't any.

>>12314494
>>12314485
Yurifags aren't a small percentage. They just overlap heavily with straightfags, so it's more efficient marketing to get both. With fujoshi stuff, going far enough to attract fujoshi is likely to turn off non-fujoshi. Things with yuri often aim to drop hints while maintaining plausible deniability, so they pander to other audiences at the same time.

Since the fujoshi community revolves around stuff aimed purely at it, you get a lot more people becoming part of the community as opposed to claiming "I like this stuff, but I'm not one of them."

With games like Kancolle that means there's no point in worrying about fujoshi unless you put yourself in their ghetto, and if you did that you'd make the kinds of games that are already popular there instead of a game that guys might like. An all-girls game like Kancolle hits the military otaku and obessive powergamers, who are mostly male.

>>12314621
Well, if you want full realism then IL-2. It's simply the best flysim ever made by a huge margin, and I doubt something will be able to get close to it in near future.

What's the point of ring formation if you can't do any damage to the enemy carriers once you've shot down all their planes?

Done with 2-5 monthly, took me 4 retreats.

>>12314638
Just to survive and get to the next node.

>>12314638
It's super fancy.

>>12314605
>Super Yamato
I never said that, but I see that I triggered your autism so I will avoid bringing it up again.

Speaking about *-Yamatos, I'd really love if the devs added B-65 somtime in the future. It was pretty much mini-Yamato through and through, and more fast BBs are always good.

>>12314240
>I'm fearful for the longevity of kancolle though. There's only so many japanese ships you can use. Eventually they'll have to go for foreign ships like american and british ones
What the fuck are you talking about. The creator already expressed his intention to add them sometime in the future. Anyone who thinks they won't eventually be added is retarded.

>>12314283
>Would probably help if they lifted that ban on fan games as well.
Maybe only after the Vita game comes out so the fangames won't overshadow the Vita game.

>>12314374
>>12314377
He said something about those 2 going well together or something, if I recall correctly.

>>12314638
The damage done by ring is not THAT bad.

>>12314679
> Anyone who thinks they won't eventually be added is retarded.
He's kinda right though. There is only so much ships that served in Kriegsmarine, Regia Marina and Vichy France navy, this will not sustain kancolle for long.

Finally I have 4 subs.

>>12314685
There are tons of British and American ships, especially American ships. Which the Japanese being Japanese will eat up anyway. And which will definitely be able to sustain the game for quite a while.

In any case, once they run out of WWII ships, they can move on to post-WWII ships or even WWI ships. Nothing's stopping the devs from adding whatever they want.

>>12314695
Fuck Allies.

>>12314695
> There are tons of British and American ships
Stop being retarded. It's obvious that those three are the only foreign navies that will be added, and that's in a best case scenario. I really doubt Vichy navy, as much as I love Richelieu.

>>12314703
You know, saying "it's obvious" doesn't actually waive the need to actually back up your statement.

>>12314703
You're the retarded one. As I said before, the creator did include British/American ships as among the ships he intends to add.

>>12314694
Why did she appear to me when I saw your post?

>>12314685
They'll last for a year or two at worst, then they'll either pull a SW and add Allies ships or dunno, "anime originals"?

>>12314714
They could always try to push the "story" along and add original girls.

The day they add allied shits, they lose all support from the government.

>>12314713
一緒にイク

>>12314720
Because of course the government pays for moe card games.

>>12314720
And why in god's name would Kadokawa need the government? It's the JSDF that's leeching onto the support of Kancolle to promote themselves, not the other way around.

Honestly, given current US-Japanese military cooperation it might garner more support from the govenrment.

>>12314720
> they lose all support from the government.
Abe is a little shit who betrayed Koizumi, government will keep supporting the game(if it supports it in the first place).

>>12314725
Promotion of nationalism.
How gullible are you?

>>12314737
And what sources, pray tell, have you found that say the Japanese government has put any subsidies into Kancolle (short of copyright fees so the JSDF can use the girls)?

>>12314720
I can't wait for american nationalists to shit on kancolle because they sexualized their sacred ships, really every one how think 11s would risk adding american ships to the game is deluded.

>>12314744
nah they are too busy being mad because muh pearl harbour

>>12314737
KanColle hardly promotes nationalism. At most, it appeals to military otaku for its warship glorification, but it doesn't go so far as to push any sort of pro-nationalist sort of agenda.

Ironically, the most pro-nationalist thing to ever come out of Japan is Metal Wolf Chaos.

>>12314743
Are you an idiot? Do you think they release that kind of stuff to public?
Do you think USA releases any stuff about their support for terrorists to public?

>>12314736
Abe is even more right wing that Koizumi, you know.

>>12314744
Because Kadokawa has such a massive American playerbase, and Japan has given so many fucks about other countries' complaints about cultural usage, right?

>>12314751
>A-american ships w-won't appear, b-because the Japanese government will totally withdraw all the secret funding that they've poured into kadokawa that only I know about!
Keep your tinfoil hat on, buddy, and take it to /pol/.

>>12314748
I hate this so much when watching documentaries on the Pacific Theater. "And the Japanese killed people the sick twisted fucks" then it's like "We just killed Japs, Remember Pearrrllll USA USA USA"

That aside anyone got any good documentaries on the war, preferable from the Japanese point of view? I find them nice to watch in the background.

>>12314751
You forgot your tinfoil hat, onii-chan.

>>12314756
Who are you quoting?

>>12314743
The manga that had full page promotions for modern JSDF ships, you retard.

>>12314761
see >>12314751

>>12314764
I don't see the sentence you quoted in that post.

>>12314748
Hawai'i wasn't even a state at the time and was under an illegal annexation. I don't understand why people care so much.

>>12314762
>The manga that had full page promotions for modern JSDF ships, you retard.
Because the Mangaka and Japanese military Otaku know nothing about the current ships of the JMSDF that happen to have the exact same name, right? And there totally isn't any artwork on pixiv making those connections, with or without the support of the government, right?

>>12314768
You may need to learn the meaning of implication.

>>12314761
Dwayne pls go and stay go.

Another exciting round of Guess the Developers' Intentions, where we're always wrong about everything. Thrilling.

>>12314769
Pure war propaganda.

Even burgers need some sort of moral excuse for nuclear strikes on civilian targets.

>>12314769
Because America was clearly a completely neutral party before WW2 and in no way supported anyone. God damn sneaky Japs.

USN USN USN
FUCK JAPS

>>12314772
No, this is more like an amateur /pol/ party.
Why can't we just discuss cute little girls without all the political implications?

>>12314759
>>12314774
The difference is that Japan killed people before formally declaring war against a party that had hitherto refrained from any military action against them.

>nuclear strikes on civilian targets.
I'm guessing you missed the part where one city was the headquarters of an army and the other was a major military dockyard

>>12314778
I read that as "a little poi party".

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22390373

>>12314778
> Why can't we just discuss cute little girls without all the political implications?
That's easy. There's been way to many people with inflated ego and patrioshit sense lately. I wonder where all fish-eyed friends went.

>>12314744
I don't know about Wo but abyss CLTs aren't American ships.

>>12314786
Indeed, all those nationalists thinking Japan will follow their own aversion to allied ships. Patrioshits for a country they don't even belong to.

>>12314781

>I read that as "a little poi party".

How would be a poi party?

>>12314779
> The difference is that Japan killed people before formally declaring war against a party that had hitherto refrained from any military action against them.
And because of this it's fine to mutilate prisoners and war dead en masse, rape not even japanese women everywhere you go, cook people alive and all other shit that's on par or even worse then that hailed "rape" of nanking, yes?

>>12314794
There would be a lot of poi poi, if you catch my drift.

>>12314779
Which is why it's ok to kill 200 000 civilians, right?
Holy shit, the propaganda still runs deep.
Experts on genocide at the time said that bombing of Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Dresden were all terrible war crimes.

>>12314794
Lovely.

>>12314794
Delicious. Oh wait, wrong poi. Delicious still fits.

>>12314782
No spanking room for spring, pls no spanking room for midway

Kadokawa pls no

>>12314789
Your inflated ego shows.

>>12314796
>that's on par or even worse then that hailed "rape" of nanking, yes?
It's not even close to on par to the scale or morbidity, of the "rape" of nanking, or the march on Bataan, or wholesale use of forced labor and sexual slavery.

>>12314800
>Which is why it's ok to kill 200 000 civilians, right?
Yes, It's still legal under international law, even now.
>Luis Moreno-Ocampo was the Chief Prosecutor at the International Criminal Court who investigated allegations of war crimes during the 2003 invasion of Iraq. He published an open letter containing his findings; in a section titled "Allegations concerning War Crimes", he elucidates this use of proportionality:
>Under international humanitarian law and the Rome Statute, the death of civilians during an armed conflict, no matter how grave and regrettable, does not in itself constitute a war crime. International humanitarian law and the Rome Statute permit belligerents to carry out proportionate attacks against military objectives,[7] even when it is known that some civilian deaths or injuries will occur. A crime occurs if there is an intentional attack directed against civilians (principle of distinction) (Article 8(2)(b)(i)) or an attack is launched on a military objective in the knowledge that the incidental civilian injuries would be clearly excessive in relation to the anticipated military advantage (principle of proportionality) (Article 8(2)(b)(iv)).
Ending the whole pacific theatre and bringing about the surrender of the nation of Japan and its significant land assets falls into the category of a worthwhile military advantage.

>>12314811
You puff yourself up, purport to speak for a whole nation and its government and then go on to claim the other party's ego is inflated? That's what we call hypocrisy.

>>12314720
All the better for KanColle since that means that they have disproved all accusations of nationalism in that case.

Reminder that losing support from the government here is a good thing for KanColle.

I'm not sure how this /pol/ shit started, but you guys need to take it elsewhere. Your discussion has far surpassed the bounds of KanColle related.

Back to kancolle.

Oh boy, here we go again.

>>12314679
>What the fuck are you talking about. The creator already expressed his intention to add them sometime in the future. Anyone who thinks they won't eventually be added is retarded.
You mean the interview from like a year ago when they had no idea what would happen?

>>12314818
It started when someone said the devs will never add British/American ships.

>>12314826
Best waifu of the 5 starters.

>>12314826
Did you start a new account or is this an old screenshot?

RIlette > RUlette

>>12314831
That cunt just hit my Haguro to red...

>>12314829
Wow, what a lying piece of shit you are.
Look >>12314240

>>12314828
And what does that change? Nothing. They'll still add it anyway.

>>12314835
No, not that one. Usually the banter stops there and doesn't go into /pol/ territory, but this time it went a lot further.

>>12314266

FUCKING HELLA THANK GOD. Now, with less secondaries will he finally get his act together and do a GOOD game. He hasn't released one since Fairy Wars. Even Tasogare Frontier fucked up the figghter.

>>12314266
Are these the number of registered circles writing for each franchise?

>>12314830
Old.

>>12314840
So it started when you say it started.
And they'll add it because you say they'll add it.
Sure thing.

>>12314813
> It's not even close to on par to the scale or morbidity
But yes it is. Especially in the first years of the war, US soldiers were notorious for completely inhuman disregard for all pacific natives. Raping, pillaging, torturing thousands of people daily, very own people you oh so claimed to protect.
> sexual slavery.
It's somewhat funny that amerifats completely forgot how they had sex slaves themselves while blaming Japan for all mortal sins.

I wonder how related this poor folly's lack of information to how pretty much all of Goebbel's stuff took refuge in USA, got PhDs and started to work in government subsidies the very same year war ended.

>>12314846
I see. I'm glad I got rape kaze when I had the chance.

Do you think she'll reappear for Midway?

>>12314374

I giggled.

>>12314849
It's a case of "The winners write history"

>>12314841
I really REALLY hope so...

>>12314438

Needs more sparkles and huge gold medallions.

>>12314834
>cunt

ye sure m8.

I do bring Kirishima instead of another clt for boss-killing, just saying. Don't want to get wrecked by red-t.

>>12314835
The only thing I got outta this thread is that I'll be calling "political-thinkers" pois now. Chuuni and vicious looking tiny destroyer.

>>12314860
I believe the Africans refer to that as "bling".

>>12314849
>But yes it is. Especially in the first years of the war, US soldiers were notorious for completely inhuman disregard for all pacific natives. Raping, pillaging, torturing thousands of people daily, very own people you oh so claimed to protect.
[citation needed]
If you need me to provide citations for Bataan, for Nanking, for the use of comfort women, I'll be glad to provide them.
>It's somewhat funny that amerifats completely forgot how they had sex slaves themselves while blaming Japan for all mortal sins.
>[citation needed]
>Michael S. Molasky, Japanese literature, language and jazz researcher, states in his study of Japanese post-war novels and other pulp literature, that while rape and other violent crime was widespread in naval ports like Yokosuka and Yokohama during the first few weeks of occupation, according to Japanese police reports, the number of incidents declined shortly after and were not common on mainland Japan throughout the rest of occupation.
>Up until this point, the narrative's events are plausible. American soldiers stationed abroad did (and still do) commit abduction, rape, and even murder, although such incidents were not widespread in mainland Japan during the occupation. Japanese police records and journalistic studies indicate that most violent crimes committed by GIs occurred in naval ports such as Yokosuka during the first few weeks after the Americans arrived in 1945, and that the number declined sharply thereafter. The above passage from Chastity also points to issues which are central to a serious consideration of prostitution in postwar Japan: for example, the collaboration between police and medical authorities in enforcing a regime or discipline against women working outside the domestic sphere, the economic exploitation of female labor through regulated prostitution, and the patriarchal valorization of chastity to an extent that rape victims are left few alternatives but prostitution or suicide.."[6]:121[14]:16

>>12314863
Only africans are black? DAS RACIS

>>12314863
I thought that was Jamaicans?

>>12314865
>>12314866
They're just exported Africans.

>>12314679
>The creator already expressed his intention to add them sometime in the future.

Source?

>>12314848
It started being /pol/ when people started arguing from a /pol/ point of view i.e. they won't bring in British/American ships because of nationalism and such. On the other hand, saying that they'll eventually have to bring in those ships because they're running out of Japanese ships, is not /pol/.

>And they'll add it because you say they'll add it.
It's because they said they'll add it. Give them another year or two. (And screencap this.)

I hope they'll add Maruyuu in E6 drop pool yet again.

>>12314874
They don't "have to" do anything.

>>12314880
I just want Taigei as a scaled drop.

>>12314262
Love Live won't survive the time like IM@S did. Love Live won't survive much without anime while IM@S can.

kancolle registration at c86 has doubled that of c85. Who's ready!?

>>12314884
She's easy to get, why would you want to farm her? You want pom-poms that much?

>>12314891
I want another copy and 2-5 keeps being a dick.

>>12314896
Sucks to be you.

I want three Taigeis so I can have each of those wonderful damaged sprites in my office at any time.

1 more week. How ready are you?

>>12314917
I'm shaking.

>>12314917
Will I be daijoubu?

>>12314926
How about you start thinking for yourself?

>>12314926
Not enough buckets.

>>12314917
I feel fine.

>>12314917
10 reppu(kai), all CVs are 80+, chito/chiyo/hiyo/junyo are 60+, 700 buckets, 150k+-5k of everything.
I am prepared.

>>12314939
You have 10 repp kai?

>>12314917
Unryuu class better be worth it.

>>12314944
9 reppu and 1 kai. Are you mentally deficient?

>>12314917
Sort of ready

>>12314950
I would written that as 10 reppu / 1 reppu kai, rather than your confusing 10 reppu (kai) bullshit.

How are we supposed to know that means you have exactly 1 reppu kai out of your 10 total reppu type planes?

>>12314961
What happened to your baux?

>>12314969
> exactly 1 reppu kai
Because there is no way to get more then one, maybe?

>>12314969
Enlighten me on how you'd come to obtain more than one Reppu kai.

>>12314979
My dad works for Kadokawa.

>>12314973
Emergency Soryuu and RJ leveling.

>>12314991
They k2 now at least?

>>12314991
Souryuu?

>>12314917
I'm okay. I've been dabbling in the forbidden arts of LSC recently. I think it's rude that Big 7 and Bismarck have the same timer. It keeps getting my hopes up.

>>12315007
No, I'm rather bitter.

>>12315007
You mean 蒼龍?

>>12315013
さうりゆう

>>12314917
Pretty sure I'm fine. In fact, I think I could do LSC more often than I am currently... Also I haven't touched a single bauxite expedition, aside from nightly 36, since the spring event ended, and its gone up over 100k.

>>12315013
Yes, 苍龙

The chongs are here again.

>>12315013
Fuck off, we don't need your shitposting again.

>>12314917
I'm not sure if I'm going to finish the event because lack of free time but I feel that I'm okay with this.

How many tries did it take you to finish Soryuu quest in 4-3?

>>12315092
Souryuu?

>>12315092
About 9.
And why do you want to know? It's RNG.

How mad are you guys going to be when Shitnano end up being like Sakawa?
All these resources could have been used to get superior girl like Bismarck and Yamato.

>>12315100
But I already have Bismarck and Yamato.

>>12315099
Because I'm about to.

>>12315083
Kind of feels like the hype for this event died down, and that those people who used to hype it back in spring have left.

>>12315108
About to what? Kill yourself?

>>12315114
You first.

>>12315108
Knowing how many times it took others won't help you.

>>12315112
You can only hype something so much. Midway was supposed to happen in February because Arpeggio was a mini-event and it was so unthinkable that there could be such a long lapse between proper events. Seven months and one not-Midway event later it's finally happening. I think everyone's burned out half a year of fake hype and there's no room left for real hype.

>>12315100
Light Cruisers are the least useful ship class in the game. Carriers are the second best. By virtue of that alone, Shinano is not going to be bad.

When you take into account that Shinano might also have the highest armor, hp, and plane count among all carriers, I don't know how anyone can unironically compare her to Sakawa. Hell, even if her carrier form inexplicably ends up sucking, another hotel is never a bad thing.

>>12315112

We only know that Midway is next week, and at least 1 Unryuu class is confirmed, if the devs gave us a little more info about the event, like new mechanics or something between the lines "I hope you have a shitton of resources" then people would be talking a lot more about it.

>>12315112
>>12315145

Like this fucking tweet:

一週間後の【8/8(金曜日)】、「艦これ」は全サーバ群共通メンテナンス＆アップデートの実施を予定しています。本メンテナンスに伴うアップデートにより、今夏実施の夏イベ：期間限定海域【AL作戦 / MI作戦】が作戦発動される予定です。新艦娘も多数就役予定です…お楽しみに！

It basically says "Midway will happen in one week!"

We have been hyping this shit for a while now, unless they give us a little more about the event itself, the hype will pretty much be dead until a few days before the event.

>>12315151
When they first announced about 八月上旬, the reaction was pretty much 'so it finally came, huh?'. The exact date announcement was quite expected, since lately they do maintenance on Friday.

>>12315167

Even a teaser of all the girls that will be on the event would be nice, even a tiny piece of the feet or a hand would be enough to keep the hype alieve.

>>12315182
But we already have one for Shinano

>>12315186

Let's not go there, some people hate that design with passion, some people like it.

But in the end, it's not even confirmed if that'll be the final design.

>>12315145
>十分な補給物資の準備が重要です。
>新艦娘も多数就役予定です
A stockpile is essential and a great number of ships are about to be added. They're being vague as hell, which I don't mind since I disliked how much we knew about the spring event in advance, but people are burnt out on speculation.

>>12315234
Prolly cv buffs, maybe night-based cv mechanics.

Shinden reward from earlier maps, since they revised the library info.

Shinano trophy.

I don't mind compass screws, or regen anymore. Just not both at the same fucking time again because that is bull-fucking shit.

>>12314926
Quite new here, how do you guys farm so much? Or just buying? I just don't want to think i'm missing some important point.

>>12315271
Eventually you run out of things that you need to do and resources pile up as time goes by.

>>12315271
You run expeditions every hour for months.
You should never have to buy resources unless you've got god-tier awful luck like pokehamu.

>>12315194
>But in the end, it's not even confirmed if that'll be the final design.
That's a given.

Although people do have legitimate reason for believing that it's a design for Shinano.
It does have some kind of historical precedents.

To quote >>12244945 :
>People were saying the same thing about I-401 when the Arpeggio EP1 end card aired. Everyone was saying that there would be no way that Shibafu would be behind the design, and that most logically I-401 would match with other submarine designs by Shobon. Guess how that turned out.

How about a screen shot of your oldest ships?
My Samidare sunk ;-;

So it's pretty much confirmed that best main gun setup is either 46+41 or 2x41?