/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Ar Tonelico For Lazy People Pack™:
http://www.mediafire.com/?5e2ttnrjtim3n4i

Contains torrents for the games along with the emulator installer and bios. Plugins are automatically included. Thanks to Anonymous for this.

Note: Newer emulator downloads than what is in the lazy pack can be found here: http://pcsx2.net/downloads.php
Note2: If you encounter sprite glitches, try a Version >= r5101 from http://pcsx2.net/svn.php

AT2 Raki bug patch - http://www.mediafire.com/?bp8ydy03ml7r5xa
You shouldn't need this if you're using a new version (0.9.7+) of PCSX2. Thanks to anonymous for uploading this!


Latest Technical Data Compilation Room Issue:
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Ar_Ciel_Technical_Data_Compilati
on_Room/Issue_14

Latest Toukousphere Translation can be found on the top of this page:
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Toukousphere
April Fools TKS:
http://www.mediafire.com/?avpff50jo843a52

AT Visual Book:
http://www.udonentertainment.com/blog/udon/ar-tonelico-visual-book-in-stores-now/
Atelier Official Chronicle:
http://www.udonentertainment.com/blog/udon/books/atelier/

AT2 Flash Cosmosphere:
http://ar-ciel.org/uploads/miz/tks/2avs/
Offline Version:
http://www.mediafire.com/?hpr7840pbe1wf7d

Lossless albums:
Ar tonelico Music Collection Torrent: http://www.bakabt.com/153236-ar-tonelico-music-collection.html
All tracks are encoded in FLAC format and include scans of covers and booklets. Torrent does not include AT3's Drama and Hymmnos Musical discs.

Alternative set of torrents:
AT3 - OST: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=112183
AT3 - Hymmnos albums: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=111040

CADENA ~Atelier Series Jazz Arrange Album Featuring Mami Horie Vol.1~
http://www.sonixgvn.net/2011/06/cadena-atelier-series-jazz-arrange.html

Istoria~Kalliope, Akiko Shikata's latest album:
http://www.mediafire.com/?683lw3wgor7aaou
http://www.mediafire.com/?avz1a3afvjo6xzf
http://www.mediafire.com/?c55pz0qs0wh0i3x

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Mediafire Folder of Ar tonelico / Atelier goodies:
http://www.mediafire.com/?rddbnsio6dayi

Contents:
- AT1-3 OST, Hymmnos Concerts
- AT1-2 Drama CDs, Hymmnos Musicals
- Utau Oka ~Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor~ (Album)
- AT3 Artbook
- Offline AT2 Flash Cosmospheres
- AT3 Yokkora fan disc
- original /jp/ stuff

RIP again, Gust.

>>12291088
>Atelier Shallie released
Damn, and I just finished up collecting all the PS3 Atelier games. I haven't even had the time to play them yet.

I started Shallie yesterday but got hit with the freeze bug 5 times in various situations. I'll hold off on playing more until the patch.

From what I played I liked though; especially the introduction. It's a bit long, but it establishes the Shallies as characters a lot better than E&L did with Escha and Logy.

>>12291180
i have totori and meruru and i was about to buy ayesha but the fact that there's no jap voices bothers me.

>>12291564
That's what made me go back and buy Totori instead, then I just figured "what the hell, might as well buy the rest of them" so I got Rorona and Meruru too.

And then last Saturday I thought I finally completed my collection with Escha & Logy, but it seems it won't be complete for long.

>>12291574
then you got ayesha or not?

>>12291729
Yeah, I have all the games that are on PS3 so far.

>>12291736
When you play it please give us your opinion.

>>12291771
I doubt I'd remember by the time I actually get there. The only somewhat recent game I actually finished was Ranko Tsukigime's Longest Day and that's just because it was literally a 30-minute game.

>>12291537
I haven't been hit by any freezing bugs during gameplay, but so far every time I'm finished playing, when I press the PS button and 'Quit Game', I get the 'beepbeepbeep' error and my PS3 shits out. When it comes back up it has to do data retrieval. Fortunately, so far it hasn't corrupted anything. When I play it tonight I'm just going to save and then eject the disk to see if that avoids it.

I'm enjoying it so far, and I'm really surprised that Gust wasn't lying this time when they said that your protagonist choice makes a big difference. After they said that in Escha & Logy I wasn't about to believe them here, but it does. Your parties don't even fully group up until halfway through the game.

The 'hardcore' difficulty doesn't fuck around, either. It's nice to have some difficulty besides just 4 or 5 fights near the end like in E&L

>Ayesha is the best selling Dusk game
>In the character popularity poll for the whole Dusk series, Ayesha is 2nd place, with Logy trailing behind at 3rd place. 1st place is Escha (Probably thanks to the anime)
>Escha gets relegated into being a sort of but not really relevant NPC. Ayesha and Logy get the treatment in pic related, only showing up for 4 seconds.
>Shallie is a bug ridden mess.
>Final boss of Shallie is Some weird bug thing. Not as impressive as Flameu or say, Yggdrasil
>Shallie is the worst selling Dusk game

You only have yourself to blame GUST.

>>12292165
If Dusk ends at Shallie, then it would really leave a bad taste on players. At least Meruru had some degree of closure for the Arland setting and Majority of it's characters.

With Shallie, well, alot of things are still left hanging.

>43,744 sales
Doesn't this make Shallie the worst selling Atelier since, like, Mana Khemia?

They shortened Wilbell's victory animation so that you can't see her pantsu for a literal split-second (like one frame) anymore like you could in the preview video.

They were black, by the way.

>>12292170
Someone said they'd do more Dusk if Shallie sold well.
Rip in peace Dusk.

>>12291088
>Shallie selling poorly and also causing PS3s to crash upon exiting the game normally.
TK pls go

Which reminds me, I still have to preorder Arnosurge. Since it has to "do well" so we get Ciel Offline.

Started playing AT3 yesterday. Heard mainly bad things about it and expected annoying, unplayable clusterfuck in terms of gameplay, but the battle system isn't THAT bad. I find it rather mediocre. But seriously, they went a bit too far with all these innuendos, stripping, fetishes and so on. Anyway, positively surprised so far, thanks to low expectations.

>>12292165
>1st place is Escha
Sasuga Japan, putting the lolsomoe semi-retard at the top.

It's a yearly series so it's not surprising to see more of a focus on throwing it out the door than content and bug fixing

Anyone has ooh lady soma.png? I lost the original.
>>12292165
Time for Iris 4 then.

After playing for a few hours last night, I saved and tried to just eject disk instead of manually exiting the game to see if that would avoid the Shallie glitch, but nope. Either way, it seems that if you've been playing Shallie for a while (some people say it has to do with if you've done a lot of alchemy or not), when you quit your PS3 will crash and have to do data recovery. What a pain, hope they patch this soon.

>>12293271
Patch comes out on the 26th.
https://shop.salburg.com/product/info/20140723/

Hope they fix Miruca's freeze bug too.

>>12293350
What's the Miruca freeze bug? I'm playing as Shallistera so she just joined my party now in chp.5

>>12293560
Miruca's Medical Shot skill can freeze the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aph-jpXAGCY

>>12293636
That sucks, it seems like one of her best skills too since it can keep healing and reviving people even if she dies. I'll have to avoid using it for now.

Shallie patch is up.

>>12294571
I get nothing. Check for Update tells me the latest version is installed.

>>12294594
Start Shallie and it should prompt you automatically.

>>12294609
Nothing. You sure you're not just talking about Patch 1.01? I think I had to patch Shallie way back on Monday when it arrived, I think we're waiting for a second patch here.

>Ciel nosurge Offline
Will that contain all the chapters? Ciel nosurge is complete already, right?

I'm quite excited for Ar nosurge. But they will need to do a Vita version for me to get it; I don't have a PS3.

>>12294632
I already got that one as well. Are you sure that was patch 1.01? 2ch lists the new bug patch as 1.01.

On the other hand no one there is talking about it and it's supposed to come out tomorrow and not today. Maybe I got the same one twice. If so my bad.

>>12294636
Yes it will contain all the chapters, no Ciel is not complete yet. Final chapter comes out in one week.

I'm sure Gust can keep surviving if they would just rerelease AT1 and AT2 for PSV. So many older games have been ported to the Vita, and I would love to buy those games if they would release it at a reasonable price, I don't understand why more companies won't do this.

>>12294693
I agree

http://social.gust.co.jp/pc/event/a16/finalvote
Looks like a lot of the votes for Escha were invalid and Ayesha is back on no.1 spot.

If any of you have MyGust accounts and don't care what character gets the new hidari illustration for their towel please vote for Ayesha and two of the characters that aren't Escha. I've been voting daily and I'd buy the fuck out of that Ayesha towel.

Also does anyone want the Eschalogy drama cd or Atelier arrange cd that came with the Shallie LE? The tracks on the arrange cd are all orgel arranges.

>>12295159
>Also does anyone want the Eschalogy drama cd or Atelier arrange cd that came with the Shallie LE? The tracks on the arrange cd are all orgel arranges.
Do you have to ask?

>>12292389
L-lewd.

>>12295919
Arrange disc: www.mediafire.com/?62zb37t9uj02vt7
Drama cd: http://www.mediafire.com/?2n295fiay0eqie1

The characters in the drama cd are Escha, Logy, Marion, Linca, Wilbell, Solle, Reyfer and Harry.
There's a free talk track that the booklet recommends leaving until after you finish Shallie, but it's probably just Rieshon being annoying for 17 minutes.

Patch 1.03 for Shallie is up

Going to go out of my way to use Miruca's healing ability a lot to see if I get any crashes

I finished Atelier Totori earlier today as my first game in the main Atelier series. (I played Atelier Annie before it, but never finished that one.) I liked it so much that I've already started a new game, but at some point I'll probably grow bored of replaying it and move on to another Atelier game.

Should I go for Atelier Rorona or Atelier Meruru next? How do they differ from Atelier Totori? Will I get annoyed by the lack of Totori improvements (if any) if I play Rorona after getting used to Totori?

>>12297549
Play New Rorona next, then finish up the Arland series with Meruru

>>12297553
Is New Rorona that much better than the original? I can probably get old Rorona for 30 euros while New Rorona will inevitably set me back 60 due to how new it is. (The PS3 I'm playing on isn't mine so modding is not an option.)

Is it just me or do Homura's specials fail too often to make him(?) worth using?

Seems to be literally around 50% failure rate, and they're not even that amazing when they do hit.

So far (Chapter 6) it seems like Wilbell is the best character against multiple enemies and Mircua is the best against single strong enemies.

>>12297566
Yes, New Rorona is absolutely worth the extra money. Old Rorona is so bad that a lot of people who started with it just dropped the series altogether and missed out on Totori/Meruru.

>>12297566
Personally I think old Rorona was fine at the time it came out, but all the PS3 Ateliers after it are just so much better. Playing old Rorona after Totori is straight out an awful idea.

Get new Rorona and then Meruru.

>>12297549
Since you started with Totori I'd say you ought to do Meruru next and then New Rorona last.

>that scene when you make one of Homu's weapons for the first time
Hnnnngh,

>>12297572
I haven't had any problems with his accuracy yet, but I remember he did keep missing a lot in one of the demo videos.
You're right about Wilbell and Miruca. The general consensus is that they're the best.

>>12298793
The one with Miruca getting her head pet? That was too adorable. Everything about Miruca is 2cute

Homura's first two specials fail an insane amount for me, I've stopped even bothering to use them. Luckily he has good support abilities and his support burst effect is good too.

>>12298194
Other people seem to be recommending the opposite order, any reason why I should play Meruru first?

>>12298979
Well you already started out of order, so going Totori -> Meruru -> New Rorona instead is a matter of going by improved mechanics. And you've already met the returning characters from Rorona anyway. And New Rorona also has Totori and Meruru show up in it.

It's just since you already skipped Rorona you may as well leave it for last now since it's the best gameplay wise.

How low will Katla lower the price for the automata? She wants 20k this time, I could raise it but I'm not sure if she'll lower it again. I don't want to miss out on it entirely.

>>12292165
So the palette swap Logy-san is true after all. Not buying this game, GUST.

>>12299325
He appears for less than 5 seconds, not worth making an updated model for. They should have gone for a back shot and obscured his face so people would get less mad.

It was only added to tease a possible fourth game but after it selling so badly they'll probably just abandon Dusk.

>>12299325
Ayesha got it worse.
>30 years old
>just a color swap of her 17 year old model
I can understand not wanting to make a whole new model just for one shot in the credits, but just use an illustration and pan across it or something.

Anyone else more than a little creeped out the first time you went to 時の止まりし遺構 and just saw that automata sitting there in the middle of nowhere, and your character not reacting to it/being able to interact with it at all?

Also, son of a bitch, I saved up 20k to buy the other automata from Katla, can't believe what they did to it right after.

>>12299718
Seriously. I was reluctant about approaching it since I thought it would be a boss, but it just doing nothing is even more unnerving. I'm only on chapter 5, is it relevant later?

>>12299767
Later, I think. I'm just at the beginning of Chapter 7, but there's a guy in town who collects automata

Katla gets one to sell - she tries for 50k first, then lowers to 20k eventually. I had to save up to buy her, I was so excited, thought it might live in my atelier and do stuff for me, but right after I worked up the 20k to buy her, they just fucking gave it to the automata collector guy for no reason at all

Maybe it makes more sense with Shallotte as main character.

>>12294693
Ar Tonelico presents the difficulty that Banpresto was involved, so you'd need Namco Bandai to cooperate.

Is there a collection of the in-game CGs up anywhere yet? I don't have a capture card.

>>12291867
What you can try doing instead is that once you finish playing and saved the game, just hit your power button OR select 'turn off system' in the PS menu. This way you don't go back to XMB and it's a safe shutdown... unless the game fucks that up too.
This is pretty bad, but hopefully the localization will fix this Considering the history of Gust games, we'll most likely get MORE bugs...

>>12301415
>Considering the history of Gust games, we'll most likely get MORE bugs...
Localisations aren't in NISA's hands anymore. They're safe.

>>12301541
I know, but this eerily smells of NISA quality bugs.
With >>12293350 at least we know this is fixed, so that's a point for Gust. Meanwhile, Witch and Hundred Knight players are still left without support.
Thanks, NISA.

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/07/27/ar-nsurge-plus-for-ps-vita-gets-new-lovely-screenshots/

Screens that are not on Gust's website yet.

>>12301797
Silly outfits like that would really ruin your first playthrough.

You'd miss out on the canon silly outfits they get in Phase 3, too.

Gust thread, I've always wanted to learn moon for games and have always had a spurt of about a week or so where I get a lot done and then just drop off. Does anyone have any advice?

>>12301984
Suggest giving up unless you plan on moving to Japan in the future, it's not worth it for games

I spent most of my early 20s learning moon and all I have to show for it is being able to play games few months earlier than other people, missed out on the prime of my life.

>>12301984
If you're learning Japanese just for a hobby like gaming, getting the basics down and then applying it to your interests right away is the best way to stay motivated. There's a lot you won't know, but with constant exposure it'll seep into your head over time. The important thing is to stay diligent about looking up anything you don't know.

Find a beginner Japanese learning book or site. Nail the essentials; hiragana, katakana, basic sentence structure and grammar.
Do some of the following that sound appealing to you:
-Get anki.
-Get rikaikun/chan. Start going to Japanese websites about things you're interesting in. Dengekionline and 4gamer are a start for games.
-Get twitter and follow some Japanese accounts.
-Try some VNs. Use a text hooker so you can look up what you don't know.
-Go to the daily Japanese threads on /a/

When you play a game make sure you're familiar with terms like the options in menus and keywords related to the story before you start. It makes a huge difference when starting out.

I wonder if Gust is okay. They really put a lot of love into Ar nosurge and Shallie - their graphics get better each game and the music is fantastic (and no doubt expensive), but in both cases we see <100k people buying them, and only ~50k at full price.

It sounds corny but I feel grateful to be part of that 100k that Gust keeps making games for. I'd be really sad if they closed up shop. It feels like they're really being squeezed right now, the lack of proper QA for Ar and Shallie is just one sign.

>>12302118
They should be fine now they are part of KT, they don't have unrealistic expectations like most publishers and actively support niche titles.

I wouldn't be surprised to see them drop Dusk and return to their roots though, they did the same when MK2 bombed and it revitalized the series.

>>12302113
Rather than relying on a text hooker, it'd be better to learn to recognise the radicals and how to look up kanji using them.
http://jisho.org/kanji/radicals/

>>12301374
Torrent for the whole game:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=580666

BLJM61192\PS3_GAME\USRDIR\Data\PS3\Ipu
Get somebody to convert uncompressed images in that directory from g1t format to something more common/usable.
Or use a hacked PS3 with a screenshot-capable CFW.

Also please keep this thread on topic, thanks.

Spoil me on Shallie. Did Ayesha have a showdown with the dude's or something? Did we learn about the mystery of what Keith was learning about in regards to the past? Do we see more terraforming stations or sentinels like Flameau? Or did they just completely drop that?

I fucking hate when games set up a cool world and story but don't go far enough with it.

Question about Totori. Can you avoid the Chim ending by simply never creating a fifth Chim?

Miruca brings out my inner chuuni

>>12302599
Yeah.

>>12302416
>Did Ayesha have a showdown with the dude's or something?
Her only apperance is in >>12292165

>Did we learn about the mystery of what Keith was learning about in regards to the past?
No.

>Do we see more terraforming stations or sentinels like Flameau?
No.

The final boss of Shallie is some weird giant bug fusion.. thing. Nowhere as impressive as Yggdrasil or at least as cute as Flameu

>I fucking hate when games set up a cool world and story but don't go far enough with it.
Ditto. Dusk is actually my favorite Atelier setting. They were on the right track with Ayesha, gotten a little sidetracked with Eschatology and went full retard with Shallie.

There is still alot of potential in the world of dusk, but Shallie isn't doing so well, and in turn, that hurts the chances for Dusk.

I wish the vocal OST was better for Shallie. 渇きの輪郭 or Rusty Sky aren't anywhere near as good as Sky of Twilight was.

The regular OST is way better than E&L's, though.

http://gematsu.com/2014/07/gust-merge-koei-tecmo-october-1

>>12303225
Wow, mega fucking lame. That's an even bigger letdown than Iris 3.

What the hell are Gust going to do now? I hope they don't fuck up with the next series. Dusk is one of my favorite settings in an RPG. It reminded me of Wild Arms and the Dark Tower novels.

>>12301374
So I got curious and had a closer look at those g1t files mentioned in >>12302306
They are actually DDS files which had their DDS header replaced with custom one. Original images are 1280x720 on a black 2048x1024x24bpp canvas (except single pic related, it has 4096x1024 canvas), so to get them back one should prepare "donor" DDS of matching format (using Paint.NET for example) and then replace 56-byte header of "recipient" g1t with donor DDS's 128-byte header. Restored DDS files can be converted to usable format with any decent image viewer (I used IrfanView to crop them back to 1280x720 and to convert them to PNG).

Atelier Shallie CG rip with gameplay tutorial images omitted, png+rr3%:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/x4s7vahx3f9co7x/ShallieCG4jp.rar
Password: /jp/

>>12305055
Well, that was quick.
>Gust Nagano Development Group
Sounds disgusting.

>>12305103
Forgot my pic

>>12305109
Why do Escha and Shallie have the exact same face? Why is Shallie and the girl to the left in green have their arm over their tummies? Are they sick?

>>12305084
Personally I'm hoping the next series is an extension of Dusk, like the Gramnad games were a part of the Salburg continuity, and Ar tonelico/no Surge.

It would make sense considering they've been vague about Shallie being the end of Dusk.

>>12305103
You're awesome anon. Thanks.

>>12305119
It's a look of lust

>>12305142
Frankly, it scares me.

Dusk games Plus when?

>>12305259
E&L+ is most likely the next project.

>>12305055
Hm, I don't know what to think of this. It's sort of already happened in everything but name since they switched over to KT's game engine in Escha & Logy anyway.

Could be great, could be business as usual, could be terrible. Some people think that the odd decisions made for Ciel nosurge and the rushed QA on Ar/Shallie were KT's fault.

>>12305055
>Gust to continue work on existing game series, new IP.
After such an awful year it's surprisingly they still in exist in name at all.

>>12305634
TK are at least reasonable with them and don't expect hugehuge numbers from niche RPG games

>>12305757
Ciel and Ar's failure may be directly KT's fault, though. Three extremely awful decisions were made:

1. Trying to make a 'social' vita life-sim game
2. Releasing its sequel on the PS3 when you need to have played Ciel for it to make any sense
3. Releasing it before Ciel is even finished

Those decisions are all so mind-bogglingly stupid, and we still don't know if they came from within the Gust team itself or were handed down from KT.

>>12305783
If we are concerning ourselves with the western releases I think that they pulled a pretty big boner in getting Actill to do the localization. There were so many typographical errors.

>>12305812
Not even the best localizers could save Ar from the awful reviews it's going to get.

People are going to complain that the story and characters didn't make any sense and weren't properly fleshed out, and probably half the people reviewing it won't even be aware that it's because it's a direct sequel to a game they didn't play.

It'll get points for the great music and that's it.

>>12305821
>It'll get points for the great music and that's it.
Please, when was the last time you heard reviewers even mention music?

>>12305783
I'm a huge pleb who doesn't have the hardware required to play the new games, but I'm up to date with at least the news, and I'd like to say that
>3. Releasing it before Ciel is even finished
I saw this as a good tie up between the two games.
People who got an interest in Ciel nosurge had already played more than enough of it to know if they were going to buy Ar nosurge. Releasing it just before Ciel's long run ends makes sense to me.

As for 2, well, yeah, you can't defend making the sequel for another platform in this context.
But I don't see a problem about 1. Sure it's not what they had been doing up until 2012, but it appealed to the same niche. Blame the direction department if you want (or even KT's dark hand shitting things up behind the scenes) but I don't think the concept of the raising sim itself is bad.

>>12305968
>Please, when was the last time you heard reviewers even mention music?
As for me, I don't know. Not that I often read those things.

>>12305103
Thanks anon

Anything bad happen if you don't buy the automata from Katla? I figured it'd be like Eschalogy where if you don't cave in she'll sell it really cheap, but if you don't buy it at 20k she sells it to someone else.

Anyone have the lyrics for 渇きの輪郭 ? My google-fu is failing me.

Gust's wild DLC ride will finally end tomorrow, last chapter of Ciel comes out.

Total mandatory DLC (meaning story DLC, not costumes): 5800 yen

People who bought the game on Day 1 will have ended up paying over 10k yen total for it.

>>12307762
Sounds about right for an "extended-over-time" game. Cheap, even.
Now I only need to know if the offline version will have everything from every DLC to satisfy my autism.
Then in ten years I'll have a Vita and I'll get the game, and finally be satisfied.

Two Totori questions:

1. For Melvia's ending, do you need to invite Ceci out a third time BEFORE defeating Evil Face, or can you also do it after defeating Evil Face?

2. Is there any way to get 'Pure Power' from World Spirits onto a bomb? The description for Pure Power says it deals 'extreme' non-elemental damage, but I haven't found any bomb ingredient that allows Pure Power to be put on it, and unless I'm missing something there's no bomb accepting (Mystery) as ingredient.

What is the best track on the Shallie ost and why is it 黄昏へ挑む者たち

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HKkYljdKaM

>>12310518
I think you meant 雲烟飛動.
Also, does anyone know who the composer was for track 2.02 (おぼえよ！)? VGMDB is missing that one.

>>12312294
Hayato Asano
http://www21.atwiki.jp/gamemusicbest100/m/pages/4338.html?guid=on

>>12309267
I'm not sure about the second question, but you can hold off on Ceci's third invite until after you defeat Evil Face

Well, Ciel is finally ending. I have to say, this final chapter would be pretty exciting if I didn't know exactly how it ends already thanks to Ar nosurge.

Anyone finished Shallie yet? Thoughts on it?

will the US release sell as good?

Final results of the dusk poll:
1. Ayesha (4864)
2. Escha (4563)
3. Logy (4106)
4. Shalisterra (3507)
5. Wilbell (3497)
6. Miruca (3472)　
7. Shalotte (3087)　
8. Odelia (2426)
9. Linca (2242)
10. Flameu (1782)

The top five get towels. First place's towel will have a new hidari illustration.

>>12316329
Linca clones not very popular, but at least she didn't get turned into a loli for her third game.

>>12316329
So close, Miruca.

The poll results are terrible as indicators of total character popularity, though, since you got a vote once in each game. Wilbell would easily be #1 overall if all the characters were in the same poll. Linca would be higher, too.

>>12317083
>since you got a vote once in each game
You could vote for three characters everyday, both in the first poll(three votes for each game, 9 in total)and this one.

If there was only one Wilbell she'd probably have overtaken Stera and Logy, but I doubt she'd reach Ayesha and Escha. Judging by how similar the votes for the other two Wilbells are(1454 and 1471)a lot of Wilbell fans voted for all three of her anyway.

I'm mostly happy with the top 5 but I wish Miruca had gotten a place instead of Stera. I'd love some Miruca merch.

>>12317170
Stera is so damn boring, at least so far (Chapter 8). Was hoping for more out of her, since I like her character design.

Finished Chapter 12 of Ciel nosurge, but it's not over yet. Next up is the last bit of content in the 'Terminate Pack' that leads directly into where Ar nosurge starts. To access that, I need to have Ion craft a six-part synthesis. I was hoping to be finished by this weekend, not so sure anymore. If Ion thinks I'm going to let her sleep until she's finished crafting, she's got another thing coming.

>>12320743
pls don't bully Ion

>>12321481
There is some guy pretending to be me by telling others that someone is pretending to be me being really rude to posters on /jp/ demanding they remove the background. I don't want people to get hurt because of this bully and he doesn't even appreciate the jobs they do! This is just a notice so I will not be blamed for his wrong doings. Thank you for reading have a good day.

>>12321484
I'm not entirely sure what did you do there but please let Ion sleep a little bit.

>>12321507
I'm not the person you're responding to. I got tired of ordering Ion to stay awake every 10 minutes so I let her go to bed, I'll make her get up and back to work after she's had 4 hours or so of sleep. No way I'm letting her sleep the full 9 hours when there's work to be done.

>>12321520
I wish I knew runes well enough to play it, is it worth getting Vita only for Ciel?

>>12321530
Only if you're going to play Ar afterward

I'm really kind of annoyed at KT/Gust for releasing Ar when they did - it would have been much better to play after finishing Ciel. So for people who can, the best thing to do is to play Ciel Offline (the no-DLC complete version coming out October) and then Ar on PS3 or Vita.

I would definitely buy a Vita in order to play both Ciel Offline and Ar Plus consecutively, but it sounds like JP version isn't an option so I'd wait

>>12321538
Roughly how long would you say it would take if one did an hour or so of studying a day to achieve a level of basic understanding for surge or ciel?

>>12321733
I honestly have no idea, sorry.

Ciel/Ar are intermediate level games - they're not Pokemon but they're not full of unusually complex dialogue either. I'd say if you can pass JLPT N3 you'd be somewhat okay, N2 for near-full understanding? Try testing your level at their sample tests there to see.

Shallistera: You can't stop me, Kortes! I'm going to the sea of dusk and I'm not coming back until I fluff lots of animals!

mofumofu

Oh man, the fight in Shallie against the king of water is pretty cool. Nice camera effects during the battle, and nice place for 渇きの輪郭 to play. You actually get a game over if you lose, too. I just barely lost, should have it next time if I properly stock up on group healing items.

>>12321538
If you've played it I think you could answer my question.
What do you think will happen with Ciel Offline in regards to DLC? Will the content available right now be automatically available for the new version?
It also just occurred to me while writing this post that the DLC staying exactly as it is right now is a possibility.
What do you think will happen? Because I don't want to miss content when I eventually play it.

>>12321733
Haven't played these two games, but going by what I suppose its dialogue to be like, maybe two years? Considering you have to learn the runes it could be more.

Thought people 'round here would like to know Shikata's going to be doing the music for some anime show.
http://crossange.com/

have a low budget with moving and college, do you guys think its fine to skip playing escha and logy for now and go to Shallie? ive watched the escha and logy anime. I'll wait for the English version though, dont have japanese play station.

>>12325126
You don't need a Japanese PlayStation to play Japanese games.

>>12325306
oh really? i thought it was all region locked

>>12325314
That's only Nintendo nowadays.

Was Ayesha in the Shallie game?
havent got to playing it yet and interested

>>12325471
see >>12292165

I don't know why Gust can't seem to get their games together as a whole lately. They can do great stories/worldbuilding, great gameplay, but seemingly not both at the same time anymore.

Shallie is a lot of fun to play, but the story and world building leaves a lot to be desired, as everyone has already mentioned.

Ciel/Ar nosurge have an amazing world/setting/story that barely anybody will properly experience because of their idiotic decisions regarding release schedule (releasing a PS3 RPG sequel to a Vita sim/VN game, releasing Ar before Ciel was even finished). English players are even more fucked since they can't play Ciel at all. Also, Ar nosurge becomes laughably easy after Phase 1 and all challenge goes out the door even on the hardest difficulty, it really needed more balance testing.

If they do rebalance Ar for Ar Plus, I'll probably buy it a second time to replay it with the knowledge I didn't have last time from Chapters 11 and 12 of Ciel. Still working my way through the Terminate Pack in Ciel and then this long ride should finally be over.

>>12325314
None of the Playstation consoles have ever been region locked.

>>12325623
>Also, Ar nosurge becomes laughably easy after Phase 1 and all challenge goes out the door even on the hardest difficulty, it really needed more balance testing.
Standard fare for Ar games, really.

>>12325644
Except for the PS1 and PS2, you mean.

How vital is Ciel for getting Ar? I really don't want to buy a Vita for it, I'm also not to find of the gameplay. I'm planning on getting a Vita eventually. But that will be many years down the line.

>>12325665
>>12325644
Even PS3 is still partially region-locked, lock applies to PS2 games (on PS2-compatible models) and DVD/BD discs. PSP is also region-locked for UMD-PG (mostly H-VNs) and UMD video in general.

>>12325665
>>12325644
Even PS3 is still partially region-locked, lock applies to PS2 games (on PS2-compatible models) and non-game DVD/BD discs.
PSP is also partially region-locked for UMD-PG (mostly H-VNs) and UMD video in general.

>>12326902
Don't worry, KT won't localise Ciel for years anyway. And if they don't, you cans start learning your runes now and be ready for it.

>>12326995
No thanks, not enough games for me to care about doing such. Also I'm not big into VNs, so unless I was wanting it from that angle it'd be pointless.

No disrespect, of course.

i wonder if GUST would be interested in porting Ciel Nosurge to PS VITA

>>12316329
Wow, Logy-san towel! I bet those 4000 are pure fujoshi votes. I don't mind, though. Can they make a dakimakura while they're at it?

>>12327147
I wasn't surprised at Logy considering Sterk was almost always top 3 in the Arland polls. He got a towel too.

Now what was surprising was Keith getting a good 2000 votes in the first round.

>>12326995
As long as Ar sells well enough we'll probably see it next year.

>>12325644
Is this nigger serious?

People are saying that Ion could take anywhere from one to four IRL days to remember the recipe I need in order to finish the last chapter (the 'Terminate Pack' that finishes Ciel's story that they just released)

Get your shit together Ion

>>12328978
She's slacking off

My search for the lyrics to 渇きの輪郭 has been so dry that googling '渇きの輪郭 歌詞' now shows this thread as one of the top matches

>>12329182
It usually takes a while. Miruiro no Hoshi is the only song I've found the lyrics of since it had already been released as a single.
Have you had a look around to see if any uploads of the vocal album have the booklet scans?

Downloading a game from the OP's Lazy People Pack™
Still an estimated 20 hours until download completion.
Is this a normal speed for the download?

>>12331007
Yes.

>>12331007
I guess it wasn't updated with "PS2 UnDUB Project 2.6" torrent then.
Use this one instead:
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:a835470ac84b9655546aad56a5d63d1b1568626b

It was uploaded to Nyaa as http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=562144 recently but nks' stuff was nuked apparently.

I just started Meruru, but it's lagging like hell (as in, very low framerate) while walking around in town, the fields or the workshop, and often during story sequences as well. Is it supposed to do this, or is something wrong with my PS3?

So how is that AT2 re-translation project coming along? Still set to release on the same day as HL3?

>>12331157
They're correcting grammars errors here and there, that's about it. It seems to work nonetheless.

How much will Ar No Surge cost? I didn't know it was so soon. Wow.

>>12335248
Retail sites should already have a price, it's £35 here which is pretty reasonable.

>>12335267
I am Canadian. Sorry.

>>12335344
$59.99 I'm guessing.
>Canadian
Add another $5.

>>12335461
>>12335344
VGP has it for $50

I want to play atelier shallie

>>12336265
Import it

>>12336265
Anna grew up?

Keith just joined my party in Shallie. Is it just me or he kind of surprisingly bad? Even after upgrading his skills through grow system, it seems like Miruca/Wilbell are still way better choices.

>>12337793
I thought he was pretty useful, I at least liked him because he could heal himself + heal/revive other party members, but I ended up kicking him out once I got DLC characters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM_WDvbDc_g
[shipping intensifies]

>>12339939
Oh god Escha's victory pose is adorable

My favorite finisher is still Miruca's, though. That peace sign at the end after she just threw a pile driver is just too classy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFm1B_X-LPo

>>12339982
My favorite is probably Solle's. It's just really fun to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQpkzW22HS0

>>12339939
And how, damn Gust can't they just make them an official couple already, they have the most OTP endings ever,.

>>12339982
Solle's is my favorite but Miruca's is a close second.

Homuhomu's 俺の刃は最強だ！is good too.

God damn, the Terminate Pack is almost as bad as Chapter 8 where the game becomes literally unplayable for at least 72 IRL hours.

After 4 days of Ion trying to remember something (you have to have four convos with her, and each must wait 24 hours before the next will pop up), she finally rememebered how to create the thing that will tie Ciel nosurge into the beginning of Ar.

But that thing requires like a ten-step synthesis, and then apparently more memory repairing, so I'm not sure if I'll even be able to have her finish it by the end of this weekend at this rate. Probably not.

Ciel Offline's timeskip feature would sure be nice at times like this.

How much time do you think passed during Shallie? It doesn't seem like a lot.

>>12345149
Shallie doesn't have a time limit at all? How does gathering/crafting work?

>>12345149
I'd say around 3 years like usual, but there's no way to know.

>>12345619
You pick stuff from fields and synthesize like before, it's just that nothing takes any time.
There's also a motivation gauge and task system that determines how well you do at gathering.

>>12340489
They got a better ending than Rorona and Sterk did at least.

I don't know why Gust are so persistent in teasing at least one couple in every Atelier and yet never letting them get anywhere.

>>12305103
Anon, are you able to extract the font from the fonts directory? Is it just an image file with all the letters?

At this point, if it ever gets localized, Ciel nosurge in the west will be those types of prequels where you know exactly what will happen at the end but the journey is what you're playing for. I guess that's better than playing it for a long time and then suddenly getting the last part spoiled like the Japanese audience.

>>12351371
Not enough Snoop. Never enough Snoop.

Gotta say, the story in Shallie is really fucking boring. I'm halfway through Chapter 8 and I just don't care.

When I was playing Ar nosurge, that game had some gameplay issues, but I was on the edge of my seat for most of the story so I marathoned it hard.

With Shallie I just don't care. Nothing interesting is happening. I know it's Atelier and all, but I was expecting something more exciting from the trailer. 'The End of Dusk', etc.

>>12352685
This wasn't going to be the end of the Dusk series, though, but since it sold so poorly it ultimately will be.

>>12291088
Did they synthesize an accessory that gives them the 'Bugs outta nowhere' effect NISA has or something?
This is pretty disheartening.

Mana Khemia 3 never...

>>12355182
>Mana Khemia 3 never...
Sadness

>>12355142
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWZToVHOIkM

>「黄昏の終わり」の到来

They sure hyped it up as being the exciting finish to the series.

>>12355142
I don't get that. Why a quadrilogy now? The two before, Arland and Iris were trilogies. That's so strange.

>>12355142
Maybe if they spend more time developing these games to flesh them out instead of crapping them out annually like Call of Duty they would sell better.

I'm thinking of starting on an Atelier game for PSP and I know there are a couple. Which would you guys recommend?

>>12355812
I've only played Judie and Violet on PSP.

Judie if you want something easier, Violet if you want something harder. Both of them have returning characters from Elie though if that bothers you.

>>12355195
Why 2 was so shitty compared to 1?

>>12355911
Really? I personally thought 2 took most of the first one's features and improved it. For me it was the perfect sequel in that it expanded and imptoved previously introduced gameplay mechanics while adding some new ones.

The combat felt much more challenging and rewarding to me.

>>12355906
Thanks, both look interesting.

>>12355911
So yea with regards to my earlier question, I'm also wondering about Mana Khemia.

>>12355971
I agree, I don't see how 1 would be better than 2. Unless it's about the characters, which is subjective.

>>12355997
Mana Khemia is a nice series. It's more combat focused than the others. It's very flashy and has a cool combat system. I'd recomend the console versions, though. The PSP versions lag like crazy

>>12356036
Well, that I'd have to concede on. I really didn't like how few MK1 characters returned. It would have been nice to get at least some cameos and shout-outs.

>>12352685
I like Shallie a lot. I enjoyed the plot and the characters and the gameplay is pretty fun.
I'm not saying I'm 100% satisfied with it but I still feel like it may be one of my favorite games in the series. There's so much it did wrong but there's also so much it did right.

Any suggestions on music for someone who likes a lot of the vocal tracks in Gust's games? Besides the music in the games itself of course, since I've already heard it.

>>12357228
Shikata Akiko's albums. Half of them are just music boxes though which is a bit disappointing.

>>12357260
Oh, I've already exhausted everything from Shikata Akiko and Haruka Shimotsuki, that was a given.

>>12357228
Just look at the artists for the songs you like and search for more stuff by them. I ended up really liking Rurutia.

>>12357228
I'm reaching a bit here, but you might try to look for their influences.
One set would be medieval latin music such as
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b3AV_UgZPQ

Why is she so useless? I bet she fucks all the beasts she "befriends".

>>12360323
She's basically for raw damage and def. I guess her time cards skills are good.

Better to replace her with Anna or Flay if you don't already have them.

>>12357228
Gust's games have a shitload of vocal tracks of different styles. You can't really recommend something going from that.
But you could get Mitose Noriko and KOKIA, and Ishibashi Yuuko's album.
Maybe Sound Horizon is related, I don't know.

>>12361576
Sound Horizon are a totally different style to anything Gust does.
Shoujo Byou might be more in line with them.

>>12357228
http://vgmdb.net/album/28672
http://vgmdb.net/album/30897
http://vgmdb.net/album/34521
These albums share a lot of similar themes with Ar Tonelico music. It also has Noriko Mitose and Rekka Katakiri singing some songs which is great.

>>12361882
Thanks. Any place I can purchase these that ship overseas, or sell digitally?

>>12362008
http://www.circle-wave.net/
There are links to their work along with itunes and Amazon digital downloads. As far as I know, there probably isn't any easy way to get physical versions considering it's an indie album and it's been out of stock on Toranoana for a while now.

>>12362112
That's fine, thanks. I don't actually care about CDs, I just always try my best to get my money to Gust and anyone who makes nice niche things like this whenever I can.

>>12341706
>almost as bad as Chapter 8 where the game becomes literally unplayable for at least 72 IRL hours.
>After 4 days of Ion trying to remember something (you have to have four convos with her, and each must wait 24 hours before the next will pop up)

What kind of sick fuck would think of a living hell such as this?

>>12362132
Sorry, I meant the end of Chapter 7. What happens is you're repairing her memories, and at the end of Chapter 7, Ion dies in the memories you unlock, which makes her have an existential crisis as she realizes that she might be dead, since she lives in a strangle little fairytale-like world that she doesn't know anything about. She won't interact with you at all - no talking to you except to ask you to leave her alone, no item synthesis or ingredient gathering. Once per 24 hours, if you poke her enough, you'll get the console that lets you touch Ion to pop up, and you have to pat her on the head to comfort her. No more than once every 24 hours, 3 times total, while the game is essentially completely unplayable.

That was truly awful

>>12362247

Well fuck. I don't mind when games include some meta elements but that's just stupid.

Sorry if I'm a little late but has it been confirmed if EU wont be getting a limited edition for Ar no Surge? NISA having one gave me hope but they no longer ship overseas and their EU shop is shit and terribly overpriced even if it was available there and TKE have yet to release anything regarding a special edition which is no surprise. Why do they not want my money? ;_;

>>12362319
KTE said based on the angry feedback about the price of the NISA Europe store they didn't think it was worth it until they can lower their prices.

Just managed to finally take down all the bonus bosses in Rorona Plus. Next step is another new game and getting the remaining endings, since I didn't manage to get Lionela and Tantris' final events in time.

Let's take a moment to appreciate the music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUjFC_jMr-A

Speaking of Gust artists, I've really fallen in love with Nasu Asaco's work thanks to the Dusk series. I hope they get her back for future games.

>>12363351

There's a significant difference between spending £60-70 for a limited edition of a game from the NISA Europe store and spending £40-50 on a limited edition copy straight from TKE provided to the many European retailers. The NISA LE is $64.99 which is less than £40 so I'd be fine with a £40-50 price range for any possible additional costs but I guess they don't want my money.

>>12364247
KT don't do Limited Editions even for their biggest games outside of Japan, that's why it was given to NISA.

Samurai Warriors PS4 is getting one as a trial, if it does well maybe they'll start doing them more often.

>>12355971
best girl

>>12363755
Congrats.
I haven't touched Atelier since Worse-than-Hitler-TK decided to fuck us over with no voices for Ayesha. I hear they included them in Escha & Logy though. Might give that a try. But at this point I could probably just try just playing it in Japanese.
Do the Plus games have many new songs? I really love the soundtracks of the Atelier games, and I don't want to miss out.

>>12364840
I don't think any of the Plus games have new tracks apart from New Rorona.

The PSP ports for the Gramnad games had some though.

>>12364840
Pretty sure it's just Rorona, unfortunately. But it came with a handful of new songs and a heap of redone versions of old songs. If you go grab the soundtrack from NT all the new stuff is on disc 3.

I haven't started on Dusk yet for the same reason. I'm holding out hope that they'll give us Ayesha Plus at some point and include dual-audio with it.

>>12364703
I really like Ulrika, Chloe and Puniyo are cute too. Frig Lili. Whim deserves a nicer master...

MK1 I liked Anna and Jess. I was so happy to get my hands on the premium figure of her.

Finished Shallie... Least satisfying ending to a game in a long time.

The end boss was just some guardian for the water control mechanism, who cares, it shows up and you kill it, whoopie. Oh you beat the game, here's a short "what everyone is planning to do next" segment with recolored Logy and Ayesha, P.S. nothing at all got solved and really nothing that important even happened this game, fuck you, find out in the sequel what happens unless we don't make one at all

Why do you hurt me like this, Gust?

>>12366145
Shallie now is kusoge.

I'll still be Buying Shallie anyway.

For completion's sake.

>>12366145
This sounds extremely unsatisfying so hopefully everything beforehand makes up for it.

>>12366226
Well, the battle system is the most polished so far. But really, someone earlier mentioned KT saying they need to fundamentally rethink the direction Atelier is going as a series right now. I think I agree with them.

Surge Concerto had great potential if not for the retarded business decisions - great world, interesting characters, thrilling plot. It's too bad they didn't get the execution down properly, but that was just the business end of things being dumb. It gives me hope they might pull if off right, next time.

If there will be a next time.

>>12350601
All that writing, wasted. Oh well, at least I don't have to write a converter myself because people over at Xentax forums have written it a year ago.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/9drozatdk9ybi5q/onepiece2jap.7z
This ripper will look for files in its own directory and all subdirectories, so if you are looking just for the font, extract that .7z directly to\BLJM61192\PS3_GAME\USRDIR\Data\PS3\Font directory so that it won't try to convert everything on your HDD.
I'm attaching main font here (note the alpha channel/transparency); you can get another font file (for digits) from said directory yourself.
By the way, the ripper will choke on Character directory so if you want to get additional stuff (like character sprites) from the game, move this dir someplace where the converter won't be able to find it.

>>12366605
By the way, there's a more user-friendly version of that tool available, get it from http://www.xnalara.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1001
This one isn't behind a paywall, unlike Xentax.

>>12305968
Drakengard 3 got praise for its music even though the game itself sucked.

>>12366216
I'll buy it just because after 5 fucking games they finally got rid of the goddamn time limit that i loathed with a burning passion.

I'm still at chapter 7 in Shallie because I haven't played the game since it came out. It just doesn't grab me at all and I'm honestly kind of tired of Atelier and maybe even GUST-games as a whole, considering Ar nosurge did nothing for me either (I didn't play Ciel, so...yeah).
They need to think long and hard about where to go from here, maybe make a fresh IP that doesn't contribute to the GUST-fatigue. It's just fucking sad because I love this company but I can't be arsed to look forward to their games anymore. I know Sen II and Persona 5 will be games I need to play, but after 2014 I can't say the same for the next Atelier.

>>12366787
No it didn't. One of the biggest complaints about Drakengard 3 was that the music was a huge step back with how boring and bland it was after Nier's amazing soundtrack.

>>12364325

Eh, they've done LEs before for Gust stuff that weren't severely overpriced when NISA was in charge. I'm sure it wouldn't be hard for them to put together an LE for Ar no Surge similar to what NISA have if they actually wanted to but alas it seems like they don't give a shit.

So I'm currently playing Ar no Surge.
Can someone tell me what the fuck is up with all the bullshit high cost dive point options for the Genometrics? In Ar tonelico, it was usually 2, MAYBE 3 options that cost an insane amount of dive points.
I'm still near the beginning of Ar no Surge, but so far I've had one of 3000, one of 7000, and now they want me to pay 10000 dive points for an option to choose.... wtf.
Also, how do I grind dive points effectively? In the Ar tonelico games, one would gain more dive points depending on max burst and damage, but nothing I seem to do during battle seems to influence the amount of dive points I get..

>>12367972
If an option has an insanely high cost, you're meant to come back to that layer of the cosmosphere later and choose it then. They're never the 'required' choice, they're just bonus options with funny/alternate paths and usually powerful crystals as rewards.

>>12368215
I wasn't aware you could revisit lower layers of the Genometrics. This was never possible in the Ar tonelico games. You finish up the level of cosmosphere, or whatever you didn't do is lost forever.

>>12368253
Not so in Ar - the genometrics levels can be revisited any time. It's not a linear progression either, since new levels often open up when Ion or Casty links with someone else to create a hybrid genometric world with both their thoughts/subconscious.

I hope you either played Ciel or at least read up on it first, because stuff won't make much sense otherwise.

>>12368271
Well fuck, no I didn't. I was in Japan a few weeks ago, and had a huge list of shit to buy, but I forgot all about Ciel no surge

>>12368332
Well, I highly suggest you stop playing Ar and either play Ciel if your moon is decent (wait for Ciel Offline to come out on 10/2 to not get ripped off), or at least read a summary.

Someone made an amazingly detailed summary of Ciel here, if you have the time to read it all it's as close to a Ciel playview as you can get:
http://www.unit03.net/view/Ciel_nosurge/Summary

And here's a shorter pastebin summary if you're not that patient (mine, I'm going to update it with Chapters 11/12/more info in a few days when I finally finish the Terminate Pack this weekend):
http://pastebin.com/egW4rhTK

I think you should wait for Ciel Offline though since it sounds like you know Japanese, you're really only hurting yourself by playing Ar first.

>>12368367
Well... That's a pretty damn good suggestion, if there's gonna be an offline version that includes all chapters, I might as well wait for that to show up and play that before I continue this, then. It's coming out in NA in what, 1-2 months? I'll be getting that too, but I wonder what they'll do for everyone who isn't aware of Ciel.
Either way, thanks, guess I'll put this game on hold until like... april.

So which Atelier game is the best one?

>>12369183
Atelier Judie.

>>12366805
The time limit gone is the one thing I don't like about Shallie's gameplay. The life task system is dull and makes the process of moving from one chapter to another feel really mechanical.

>>12369407
I loved how easy the time limit system from the original Rorona made the game. You could structure your gameplay around a simple schedule of requests, completing the ones that expire earliest one at a time, and easily trigger the character events and complete the monthly requirement in between.

The subsequent games made it much harder to plan ahead for character events, especially since many require you to be at a certain place at a certain time or you miss it.

>>12369407
I would not have minded the timelimit so much if there was a post story endless mode like every other halfdecent JRPG has these days where one can do whatever you want without having to worry about that shitty killjoy time limit. Would be even better if one could carry over the crafted stuff made post game in a new game.

>>12371291
>without having to worry about that shitty killjoy time limit
Kinda agree with this, i remember had nightmare when first time playing Totori because i need to schedule my action carefully to do both reaching galaxy level and finishing my ships. Turned out i had too much free time after that and getting bored of free time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qDhz1zyZ14

You'll now have this stuck in your head again for the rest of the day. You're welcome.

>>12375824
A R
T O N
E L I C O
ARTONELICO

>>12375824
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99zOfEA8C4Y

>>12375824
You weren't kidding.

>>12327147
fujoshi are cool.

Ciel Nosurge is finally over

You're welcome for love Ion in all of my...

>>12382060
Time for localization?

>>12382090
Maybe Ciel Offline, JP audio only is possible.

I can't see them investing the money needed to dub all the dialogue in the game for such low returns. And they can't just do a 10% dub either, it would stick out too much.

>>12382306

They'll probably base it on the sales of Ar, except nobody will buy Ar because they want to play Ciel first, which means they'll never translate Ciel, which means nobody will buy Ar, which means...

>>12382374
I have a feeling Ar won't sell that badly over here. A lot of the western fans are probably going to underestimate the amount of importance that playing Ciel first has, or will just be so desperate that they will buy it anyway.

>>12382500
>or will just be so desperate that they will buy it anyway.
It's unfortunate, but I see this as my only option. I'll buy Ar and I won't touch it for the better part of a year, in the hopes that they follow through on Ciel. If they don't, I'll be stuck with the summary, assuming my moon still isn't good enough by then.

>>12382540
Yeah, I intend to buy it at launch and give them 6 months to announce Ciel before playing it.

Is Mana Khemia worth playing on PSP, or is the port bad enough that it should be played on PS2 if I'm ever going to play it? Or should I not play the PSP version in the same way I should play Rorona Plus instead of original Rorona?

>>12384386
The port has atrocious loading times. That's all I know of the differences.

What happened to A Reyvateil's Melody?

>>12385479
They changed their default forum theme?
Nothing seems wrong to me at a first glance. Am I missing anything?

>>12385638
I mistyped the address and it looked like the site had 404d.

So what next for Gust?

They could make a fourth Dusk game or another Surge Concerto entry, but the sales for both Shallie/Ar were awful, so maybe not...

They are still sitting on Chronos Materia.

>>12386825
I can't imagine what's keeping that. It's not like it's a particularly high budget game.

>>12384386
I didn't feel like I had much of a problem playing on my PSP from a memory stick. But you might want to try emulating the PS2 version, even if your computer is shit it's a pretty undemanding game.

>>12386825

I think they need to re-evaluate what they've done with their recent games. Ar no Surge is heavily linked to a prequel game, which is not only a different genre but it's on a different (handheld) console AND it's filled with DLC so that's naturally going to put people off wanting to purchase it. Shallie on the other hand looked good but they decided to just go full retard with some of the stuff (the final boss, the severe tech issues etc.). I think in order for them to get their numbers up again they need to focus on a single platform, get rid of the DLC faggotry that Ciel no Surge had and actually play test/QC their product thoroughly before shipping it. They're more than capable and they have a good handful of unique IPs under their belt but that means nothing if they keep doing questionable decisions like those.

>>12386825
I'd really like to see a fourth Dusk game. It'd be a shame if they just ended it at Shallie, there's too much shit to tie up.

One month, three days

Has anyone here heard any news about Project Metafalica's development? The Ar tonelico 2 Relocalization Project was started a good few years ago and I'm struggling to find any recent updates. The blog they have up has july as their latest update just interested to see if anyone knows any more information?

>>12399131
It's not uncommon for them to go a long time without updating. But going by the comments on the latest post (from January, even) they've been making steady progress. They're doing the final testing phase now, and since the second one took about 4-5 months, we can probably expect the next update to be the patch release by the end of the year.
Aquagon's most recent post was on the 9th of this month, by the way.

>>12375824
I hate you. This has been stuck in my head for the past 3 days now.

Kanon's tits are out of this world

I've been replaying At1 in preparation of 2's relocalisation finally coming out.
I forgot how awful Lyner is compared to the other two protagonists.

Though I'd go through the Flash Cosmosphere extras.
It's nothing secret or anything, but I'll leave them here just in case somebody missed them..
http://ar-tonelico.jp/1avs/index.html
http://ar-tonelico.jp/2avs/index.html

>>12403511
I forgot how awesome Misha is compared to the other songbirds.

>>12403511
>>12403997
Definitely my favorite Reyvateil.

Has anyone beaten Shallie on the 'No Hope' difficulty? I think it was added in a recent patch - it's one step higher than the NG+ only difficulty.

I just started my Shallotte playthrough and I'm already getting close to having my ass kicked on it, can't imagine trying to fight the harder enemies (like the optional beast king fight) like this.

>>12405607
Yes. It was super easy for me, but then again it was my third run and I had an elixir that would go off whenever an alchemist hit 90% of their hp, and what I'd consider my best equipment(999 quality, can't remember exact properties, there's probably much better setups out there anyway).
It really just comes down to everything having too much hp.

Looks like Ciel nosurge offline will have all the DLC included, plus more extras.
http://social.gust.co.jp/pc/cielnosurge/offline/att01.html
If anybody has a Vita to spare for a poorfag...

>>12407972
I have no interest in Ciel Offline since I never cared a whole lot for the Ion waifu sim stuff and I've already finished Ciel (so all I'd be getting are costumes), but I'm tempted to get Ar Plus.

New costumes for everyone AND three brand new characters to chat with in misogi. They also mention 'gameplay tweaks' which I hope means making the game harder later on.

The only issue is that from the screenshots so far, the Vita version's graphics looks much, much worse than the PS3 version. I'm hoping some of these are just preliminary screens. OLED can work magic that can't be seen in screenshots, though, so who knows.

Warmly waiting to see what the bonuses are in the Agent Packs for Ciel Offline and Ar Plus, too.

I've been playing meruru for the first time, and now at the final year. Astrid told me to make potion of youth. For request like this, is the quality of the requested item important?

>>12409774
Nah. Feel free to make an E rank.

>>12407972
Any pictures of the stuff included with the Agent pack up yet?

>>12409992
Late respond but thanks. Somehow i got really busy, everyone making request but i got really limited time. Fucking Peter and his spa resort taking months to built.

>>12403511
And done. When I first played it about 7 or so years back, I liked Aurica the most and Misha the least. This time around it was the opposite.

Back to waiting now, I guess.

>>12408520
Whoa that is kind of terrible

Playing through AT2 right now, it is a lot of fun. Did not enjoy 1 so much but I'm glad I stuck with it!

I like how the combat is interactive, but I feel like it's just right the way it is. Getting good at guarding is fun and rewarding. Why did they change the engine in 3 to something like Tales series? Does the Ar Nosurge game go back to turn based like before?

At first I was interested in Luca and Cloche, but finding out that Mir is in the game I want to get her on my team so I can find out about Ayatane. He's one of my favorite AT1 chars.

>>12420350
Ar nosurge's battle system most closely resembles AT2's, with attack/guard phases and timed presses to defend things during the defend phase. Only difference is that there's just one singer and one vanguard instead of two of each.

And yes, third girl is best girl in AT2, it's not even close

>>12420601

Third girl is always the best.

Ar nosurge's battle system was garbage, interesting idea, beyond terrible execution. Depending on the difficulty it's borked from one extreme to the other and it basically does not work for boss battles. The system is made for fighting waves so when you have to fight one big enemy it just stops making sense and gets very unfun.

>>12421171
I hate when games have a combat mechanic that doesn't work so well in one aspect of battle. There are defense phases in rhe first Baten Kaitos game and they are only good for boss battles because regular enemies do irrelevant amounts of damage that you may as well tank, it also slows the game down to guard those attacks.

If you haven't got Plus Ateliers yet, now is a good time (unless your only PSN account belongs to US).

>>12425923
I was about to say "meanwhile in Australia" and post a cap of our stupid prices, but now I'm just irritated that all of these were $60 when I picked them up.

>>12425923
This is when i hate the single account thing on the Vita and account bound save games since i have Totori and Meruru on my EU account but switched to a US account account because SCEE is run by the biggest bunch of useless fuckwits on the planet and fucking over the EU with digital only and inflated prices is the cool thing to do these days for publishers.

>>12425923
>maintenance
Fuck.

Agent Packs for Ciel Offline and Ar Plus are disappointing. Nothing as neat as the music box from PS3 Ar, and the skin only works on the 2000-model Vitas.

Guess I'll just be buying the regular version Ar Plus

I have literally been listening to Ar nosurge's music (and Ciel's to a lesser extent) every day since I beat it back in April. Send help.

>>12420350
I finished all of AT1 a few months ago and almost done with 2nd play through of AT2.

I think AT2 has better cosmospheres and dialogue but the game itself is worse. So much constant backtracking and the battle system got really boring after a while.

>>12431964

Do you put the songs on repeat nonstop?

>>12420688

If you have pleb tastes then yeah sure.

>>12403983

any more?

>>12396587

2lewd

>>12432450
Every now and then I'll take my mp3 player off shuffle and just set it to repeat my favorite songs from the game, like Hidra Heteromycin or CIEL_N_PROTECTA

>>12432453
Please post your superior patrician tastes for AT 1-3.

>>12431964
I have been listening to AT OST and Hymmnos every day for two years and a half now.

Just a reminder for Vita owners: a VHBL-exploitable game is about to be announced on wololo forums & blog. Make sure to immediately buy, download and backup the game ASAP if you want to run homebrew (mostly old console/handheld emulators) on Vita and a good chance to play PS1+PSP ISOs in the future (aka eCFW), as long as you stay on the current firmware ver.3.18.