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Holy shit just finish reading this, I read the translation but damn the whole thing is awesome and it clears up many things I didn't understand about the lunarian, the moon and even the youkai in Gensokyou.

Youmu is such a dork though and so sad there's no Reisen I's chapter.

>> No.12265759

Though, thinking about it, I guess the reason Raisen and Tewi didn't get a chapter is because they got the whole 4koma Inaba series.

>> No.12265760

Why are moonpeople such horrible people?
They gave birth to youkais just to piss us off

>> No.12265765

>>12265760
Straight reason, because the Earth is a prison, prisoners need to be punished.

Scientific reason, because it creates conflict to accelerate growth and it decreases the human population, and even humans are slowly exterminating youkai and the paranormal.

>> No.12265767

>>12265760
>>12265765
Correction, moonpeople did not youkai, rather it is the moonlight that creates youkai.

Moonlight creates scary shadow in the dark, humans just assume shape to them and make them become youkai.

The moonpeople were originally earthlings who just want to escape an impure planet full of life and death.

>> No.12265769

Is dis shit even given the thumbs up by Zun?

>> No.12265771

>>12265765
Fucking moonpeople, the root of all evil in Touhou and Okami.

Remove Lunar from premise

>> No.12265775

>>12265769
It's actually written by ZUN, full of science musing so yeah.

>> No.12265777

>>12265771
See>>12265767

>> No.12265780

It even explains the Udonge name, and it's not really the banana/plantain I was expecting.

>> No.12265829

The whole stealing sake to surprise Eirin and moonbitches is made to be a big deal, but in Inaba, the two sisters just appear on Earth and hang out with the EET crew without much trouble (even bringing moon peaches and, perhaps stealing a rabbit or two).

So much for Yukari starting shit, or that Inaba is making fun of the main series.

>> No.12265834

>>12265829
The whole thing was Yukari trying to one-up the moonbitches and Eirin for beating her some thousand years.

She was butthurt about that.

>> No.12265860

>>12265834
I'm wondering if it's worth it. It took Yukari's entire months of planning and nearly all Gensokyou's strongest (Reimu, Marisa, Remi, Yuyuko) to steal a bottle of really good sake I guess, while the moonbitches (and one pet moon rabbit) can just freely go around her Gensokyou like it's nothing (something Yukari cannot do on the moon), so it's kinda pointless.

>> No.12265939

>>12265860
Sake is irrelevant. What she did is successfully infiltrate the moon, with them knowing she did and not knowing how (unless, of course, they ask their rabbit underlings, which is something superiors never do). That's some serious tactical and psychological advantage right there.

>> No.12265987

>>12265735
I wish ZUN will make more book like this, this book and CoLA is my favorite Touhou books

>> No.12265989

My favorite chapter is about Mokou's past.

Poor Iwakasa.....

>> No.12266648

>>12265939
I think the moonbitches would breath a sigh of relief knowing that their breach of security is them losing a bottle of a sake (one that they happily shared with Reimu anyway) considering the rest of the rumors:
- rebellion backed by the moon sisters and Eirin
- moon rabbit cooperating with invaders
- a real Earthling invasion force

In the end, it's just Yogibear and Yuyuko stealing a bottle of sake while Reimu and the others get their shit kicked. Both sides suffer no casualties.

>> No.12266675

>>12266648
All of the manga seems to be about the Gensokyans trying to teach the lunarians new and fun ways of conflictsolving while the lunarians shit all over these teachings with their tryhard complex

>> No.12266678

>>12266675
Lunarians aren't tryhard, they are just overprotective. They even dislike senseless killing which is why they didn't kill everyone on that trip and was kind enough to teach Reimu the correct procedures to summon gods, even though this would increase Reimu's power.

The thing with Yogibear is that she knows the mooninites wouldn't bother invading Earth due to their superiority complex, but still she wants to fuck with the moon anyway because in the past she was beaten by them, if anything, it's just Yogibear being a child.

>> No.12266685

>>12266678
Lunar apologist please leave.
We must never forget their crimes.

>> No.12266690

>>12266685
But there is no crime, is there?

They just want to protect their homeland against a bunch of invaders.

>> No.12266696

>>12265860
It's like stealing Obama's pen right out of the Oval office. Sure, it's not important to him, but if you could prove that you did it would be cause for great concern in the White house

>> No.12266704

>>12266696
Didn't this kind of breach of security prank actually happen and the pranksters were usually given money to shut up and shit?

I mean, yeah, it proves that the prankster is talented, but he just wants to prove his skill rather than harm anyone.

>> No.12266715

In regards to Yukari losing in the previous war, that actually was intentional to teach the youkai "hey, overconfidence is a bad thing, you're not all-powerful." She's not butthurt about that. She just wanted to make the statement "Yes you beat us in the previous war. That doesn't mean we're not still a threat. This time it was your sake. Next time, who knows~?"

>> No.12266717

>>12266715
She was outsmarted by Eirin when she got to the moon for the first time, and her army was beaten by the watatsuki, Eirin's students. In the end, she surrendered.
Of course she's humiliated, she lost in both strength and wit on that one.

>> No.12266826

>>12266678
>They even dislike senseless killing

On the moon, because it spoils the pure soil.

>>12266715
>that actually was intentional

This piece of rumor comes straight from Gensokyo Chronicle, personally edited by none other but Yukari Yakumo.

>> No.12266914

>>12266826
>On the moon, because it spoils the pure soil.
They mostly stay on the moon anyway, so it's good thing for them and the rabbits.

>> No.12266925

>>12266914
Never mind, they killed the shit out of that crow Yukari sent, and they didn't comment about the killing spoiled the land, and Yorihime even seems to not want killing it even when it's clearly an enemy spy.

The moonbitches aren't really heartless monsters.

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>>12265735
>Youmu is such a dork
True.

>> No.12270392
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Who the fuck talks shit about my waifu?

>> No.12270439

>>12265765
So the Lunarians are Brits and the Earthlings are Strayans?

>> No.12270441

>>12265829
The Inaba comics were spinoffs and was not considered canon.

>> No.12270449

>>12270441
>opinion lol

>> No.12270450

>>12265860
Actually Yukari wasn't intended to loot the Sake. She ask Yuyuko to just loot stuff and she chooses a Sake because everything else will be too heavy for her to bring home. Then Yukari realized that looting the sake is a more sensible choice because there's no point for the Lunarians to came and take it back cause they already drank it.

>> No.12270452

>>12270450
What a fucking troll.

>> No.12270460

>>12270452
You know what's awesome. It shows that Yuyuko>Yukari. She is surprisingly smart you can't tell. Being dead has its point.

>> No.12270464
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>>12270460
Yeah, but she's a dick. Never says anything to Youmu.

Poor Youmu is just good at taking care of the garden and being used as a stress relief.

>> No.12270476
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12270476

sorry dude, i'm not twelve anymore - i don't read manga, and especially not dorky 2hu manga
over and out, moeblobs

>> No.12270479

>>12270476
>implying Monster is for 12 years old
Someone is insecure about his manhood here.

>> No.12270488

>>12270479
who are you quoting?

>> No.12270495

>>12270476
Because shitposting on imageboards is such a mature adult hobby, right, warosubro?

>> No.12270557

>>12270476

IT'S NOT A MANGA, IT'S A BOOK YOU RETARD.

>> No.12270575

>>12270476
It's a book man, book with lots of text and a few images

>> No.12270590

>>12270575
>>12270557
>>12270495
Don't bother with the secondary.

>> No.12271009

>>12270464
Her reasoning makes sense though.

Youmu does annoy people by asking too much questions (even if some of them are obvious).

I know this feeling because I'm like Youmu this way ;_;

>> No.12271015

>>12270450
Man, it's lucky Yogibear called on Yuyuko then, the whole trip would be a waste if Yuyuko didn't get the sake (the only thing that can be stole and not given back).

>> No.12271020

>>12271009
That's not really an excuse to spank Youmu's bare bottom.
Yuyuko is a child abuser.

>> No.12271027

>>12271020
Youmu got it good compared to other servants like Ran (getting called a computer/treated like a tool) or Udonge (punished and tested drugs on).

>> No.12271035
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>>12271027
>Youmu got it good
Think again.
She's constantly treated as a kid, so Yuyuko never tells her anything. Rinnosuke doesn't trust her to be reliable, Yukari probably doesn't even know her name, Ran considers her too young to be interesting, Chen doesn't give a damn about anything but her cats, Reisen spends her time basically taking care of Eientei while Eirin is maniacally laughing in her laboratory, Kaguya fighting with Mokou, and Tewi being an annoyance.

In most fanworks, she get picked on by Yuyuko, and she's even spanked quite harshly. She doesn't have any friends, and her only relative (we don't even know if it's a blood-relative) is her grandfather. And he disappeared a while ago.

Ran may be punished by Yukari, but she has Chen.
Udonge may be a traumatized soldier with PTSD being basically the slave keeping the Eientei in check, but she can communicates with the other rabbit and Eirin does explain her most stuff (as well as teaching her, since Udonge is referred as Eirin's pupils).

Youmu has nobody, her sword style is a mess that she tries to fill by herself, due to her nature, she ages very slowly, and due to her lack of social relations, she's mentally immature.


Being Youmu is suffering.

>> No.12271043

I'm fairly certain Youmu is the most spanked touhou.

>> No.12271066

>>12271043
That's because of that Pixiv guy. He has such a hateboner for Youmu.

>> No.12271109

Since when was Yogibear a nickname for Yukari?`

>> No.12271111

>>12271035

Through adversity the Youmu grows strong.

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>>12270590
People who read this nonsense are on the same level as secondaries who write 2hu-fanfictions.
Just play the games and post your score, kiddo - that's what touhou meant to be.

>> No.12271135

>>12271126
Fanfictions are okay.
As long as there's no OC.

>> No.12271139

>>12271111
Considering the emotional mess she currently is, I'd like to know what kind of strength she'll get from being abused by Yuyuko, abandoned by Youkai, scorned by Trollololosuke and ignored by practically everyone else.

>> No.12271145

>>12271126

Hey buddy, ZUN wrote it. It's canon. You are the secondary for not reading it.

>> No.12271148

>>12271111
I always thought that was stupid.
You won't get stronger if I break both your legs, so Youmu won't get stronger from being spanked.

>> No.12271186

>>12271109
Since forever faggot.

>> No.12271189

>>12271148
She's the softest, and being spanked develop her ass muscle.

>> No.12271190

>>12271043
Nah, that's Marisa.

>> No.12271194

>>12271035
I don't know, I don't think getting spanked is really comparable to being punished and tested drugs on by Eirin.

Never mind that Yuyuko actually cares for Youmu, Eirin would have no problem killing Udonge if Udonge crosses her.

>> No.12271196
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>>12271189
Youmu is so soft, not even Ran can resist her.

I wish I knew the context for that picture, but that guy doesn't usually write any.


>>12271194
>Eirin would have no problem killing Udonge if Udonge crosses her
Source?

>> No.12271198

>>12271190
No, it's Tater.

>> No.12271201

>>12271198
Haven't seen ANY picture of Hatate getting spanked, while there's a shitload of Marisa getting served by almost every Touhou.

>> No.12271206

>>12271196
This was when Eirin first proposed with Guya to meet Udonge:
>"Well, why did you decide to meet with Reisen, then?" She (Guya) asked presently.
>"Because I wanted to know what was happening on the moon. Moon rabbits have that special ability, after all."
>Of course, I did. In fact, that is the reason why I'm being so cautious now.
>"If she'd decided to turn against me, then a single rabbit wouldn't be too much for me to..."
>"How cold." (Guya)
So Eirin always had killing Udonge in mind.

>> No.12271207

>>12271201
Tater being spanked is a may may on the Jay.

>> No.12271210

>>12271206
Not sure about that.
It's only a possibility. Remember when she meets Reisen 2? She's not instantly trying to kill her, despite believing at first that she came to capture her.

>>12271207
And I'm talking about pictures.
Lern2english fagget.

>> No.12271214

>>12271210
If Reisen 2 crosses her (and thankfully she doesn't because she lost her memories and Reisen 2 is just a worker rabbit), Eirin would kill her too.

Eirin (and Reisen) have killed numerous assassins and lunar emissaries who come for Guya over the years.

>> No.12271223

>>12271214
Yes. "If". It's still a possibility. I personally doubt Eirin could hurt Reisen after all this time, especially since Reisen proved her loyalty (and lack of efficiency) during the False Moon crisis.

Yukari wouldn't have any problem with killing Ran if the vixen tried to backstab her in the ass with an umbrella.

Anyway, they bother still have social contacts. Youmu never meet anyone but dead people. That's why she has it worse.

>> No.12271227

>>12271207
I know, I'm the one making a game based on that.

>> No.12271232

>>12271223
But Youmu can leave the netherworld and hang around with other people though.

I mean she did her little investigation in SDM and Kourindou without telling Yuyuko after all, and Yuyuko didn't scold her or anything.

>> No.12271247

>>12271232
>Yuyuko didn't scold her or anything
Except for that snide "Ah, you finished clearing the snow in the manor?" remark.

But I'd like to see what would happen to Youmu if she were to forget her duty and frolic around.

>> No.12271251

>>12271247
She would be scolded of course.

Hanging around after work is fine but her job is still a gardener, can't forget that.

>> No.12271254

>>12271066
>hateboner
>hate

You obviously know nothing about love.

>>12271109
You have just witnessed forcing of an epic maymay. Ignore him.

>>12271210
>She's not instantly trying to kill her

She can kill her at any time. It's a privilege coming from being insanely overpowered.

>> No.12271262

>>12271254
>forcing
Fuck you nigga, search warosu for Yogibear and see how long that has been a nickname of Yukari.

>> No.12271272

>>12271251
Dunno, she seems pretty cheeky already.
(From Imperishable Night)
>Shut up.
>You're rotting to begin with, right?

>Oh no, Lady Yuyuko!
>It's completely dark when I close my eyes!

And frankly, the whole "she can leaves if she wants"... Let me quote SWR this time :
> Um, is it fine for me to leave for a while?
>Not really, no.


>>12271254
I fail to see how depicting Youmu getting her ass spanked by various touhou (including Iku for some reason) is love.
But then, I'm talking to a guy who ignored most of an already finished argument, so...

>> No.12271308

>>12271272
>And frankly, the whole "she can leaves if she wants"... Let me quote SWR this time :
> Um, is it fine for me to leave for a while?
>Not really, no.
That just means Yuyuko doesn't want Youmu to leave her though (because without her, Yuyuko IS lonely because she normally doesn't go anywhere either)
But when Youmu does go anyway, Yuyuko doesn't stop her.

She's much kinder than Yukari and Eirin.

>> No.12271323

>>12271223
>I personally doubt Eirin could hurt Reisen after all this time, especially since Reisen proved her loyalty (and lack of efficiency) during the False Moon crisis.

Supposedly Reisen is more of a suck-up than truly loyal. She has no problem with insulting people she thinks are beneath her.

>> No.12271343

>>12271323
True, she did have some pretty mean insults in Soku.
>Nuclear energy....
>Such a fearsome power, I'm glad that the user is a moron.
Against Okuu
>Well, you're an earth creature.
>That's why you lost.
Generic insult.

Still, she cares for her subordinates, being the earth rabbits, which is why she made a big deal about the whole rabbit stew thing.

>> No.12271364

>>12271343
...As expected from a student of Yorihime. Or to be frank, Yorihime is what happens if Reisen gets super strong, personality-wise. Thankfully, Yorihime is still a ditz and falls to Tei's trap, just like Reisen.

>> No.12271391

>>12271364
When does Yorihime ever insult someone who isn't Yukari? Also Reisen is a coward and Yorihime... isn't.

>> No.12271399

>>12271391
She sports the whole lunarian superiority and straightly speak her mind (though technically I think she taught Reisen that) all the times, example such as when she speaks with Reimu:
>"Without a slap on the wrist? You are mistaken. Living on Earth is the worst punishment you can receive."
>"Refrain from speaking with food in your mouth. Your Earthling manners are a disgrace here."

>Also Reisen is a coward and Yorihime... isn't.
Well, that's true. Reisen is coward and self-centered.

>> No.12271401

>>12271035
>Udonge may be a traumatized soldier with PTSD
The war was literally nothing. She wasn't traumatized and doesn't have PTSD. She was just tired of being the Lunarians' bitchrag and didn't want to stay.

>> No.12271410

>>12271401
That's Reisen 2, she was tired of her boring life of pounding mochi so she escapes.

Reisen 1 left before the battle begins, it's true she didn't participate but she did leave her comrades to die.
>Yorihime sighed, and smiled a bit. I let go of her shoulder when I noticed this. "I bet. A lot of the rabbits assigned to pounding mochi are a pretty dull lot that just love singing. They're probably not worth much on the battlefield."
>"The old Reisen had some talent... I wonder where she is now?"
>Reisen was exceptionally talented. She could hide easily and disturb the minds of others. However, she was also somewhat cowardly and self-centered. Obviously, these were potentially fatal traits for a soldier, but we couldn't correct them. As a result, she was uncooperative, and before the time for battle came, she abandoned her duties and fled to Earth.
>It was our job to search for Reisen and bring her back to the moon, but over forty years had passed since then, and there was no point in pursuing the matter further. We decided she'd probably been made into some human's stew, or had been tainted by the Earth's impurity and could no longer be admitted back into the lunar capital.

Also, a lot of rabbits did die, which is why in the 2nd lunar invasion, Yorihime personally goes out to combat to preserve the newbie rabbit guards.

>> No.12271427

Regarding the Lunar war, aside from the Neil Armstrong may may, this is what happened, according to Eirin:
>If it were an influence from the humans of the outside world, like in the last Lunar War, it wouldn't be a problem. Long ago, the humans had made it to the moon's surface and claimed it as their own by planting a flag. They were probably impressed by their own science and thought the moon really was theirs.
>But, if you know where to look, the moon's technological prowess was far beyond that of the Earth's. The humans had spoken of building a base on the moon, but in the end they ran back home before ever deciding on a place or even acquiring the means to do such a thing. It was a terrible defeat for the humans.
>The humans' lunar landings were reported as a great success in the outside world, but their failures were not. The humans kept losing after their first landing, so eventually they stopped returning to the moon. And we, who'd remained in contact with the moon, knew how every time they tried to establish a base, they'd failed.
>Humans rarely seem to learn. In fact, it's more likely they're moving backwards. Even if the humans decided to launch another expedition, it wouldn't create much of a stir in the lunar capital.
So basically, the first landing was a success, but later, NASA performed many covert ops to establish the moon base but got beaten, this is the Lunar war.

>> No.12271475

>>12271410
No, there was no actual war. Nobody died. There was zero actual conflict. The Lunarians get up in arms about there having been a war, but it never really happened.

>>12271427
This is the misunderstanding of the Lunarians as to what the humans' goal was in the first place. The missions that never landed on the moon were counted by the Lunarians as "unsuccessful attempts" to land on the moon when it was never the point. The whole thing is a joke.

>> No.12271478

>>12271475
Are you from NASA, anon?

>> No.12271506

>>12271475
Anyway,
>Nobody died
>Silent Sinner in Blue: Chapter 8. — "There aren't many rabbits left who took part in the last war."
>You bear a large sin.
>You abandoned your allies, letting them die,
>while you're the only one here living happily. (Shikieiki vs Reisen, Phantasmagoria of Flower view)
Well, that's wrong at least.

>> No.12271902

>>12271308
>She's much kinder than Yukari and Eirin.
Okay, but you're wrong dude.

>> No.12271908

>>12271902
How?
Yukari treats Ran like a tool.
As stated, Eirin would kill Reisen if Reisen ever crosses her.

Yuyuko actually cares for Youmu and is always there for her.

>> No.12271911

>>12271908
>As stated, Eirin would kill Reisen if Reisen ever crosses her
You decided that out of nowhere, and have NO justification for that fancanon.

>> No.12271915

>>12271908
I would elaborate Yukari's line of thinking, Yukari does explain this very logically, but I personally don't agree with her:
>Yukari: At any rate, I will explain once again for Ran's sake. It is not abuse; it is discipline. Ran is a shikigami, so if she does not do exactly as I say, she will be unable to perform at her optimal efficiency. Despite that, she ignored orders and fought with humans. So, I scolded her.
>Aya: ...Wouldn't she have been in danger if she didn't fight?
>Yukari: Not at all. She was only in danger because she fought. Do you not understand? Ran is not a fox, but a shikigami.
>Aya: That claim is what I do not understand. Exactly how are they different?
>Yukari: By following my will, Ran can obtain power equal to my level. Therefore, if she properly follows my orders, it would be impossible for her to lose. If she acts on her own, her power will be weakened to a degree that could not compare in the least. Fighting in that state would be nothing more than foolishness.
>Aya: What if she was sure she could win like that?
>Yukari: With a more reliable method for victory on hand, what need is there to choose a hazardous one? That would only end up with Ran in danger. That is why unless I am somewhat strict in my teaching, it would not be of any benefit to her.
>Aya: ...
>Yukari: In addition, Ran occasionally forgets that she is a shikigami, a servant. That is extremely dangerous. If she does not have a firm grasp on her position, she will easily diverge from the path I have laid out. It was likely because I was unable to supervise her while I was asleep, but at the very least, it now seems like she will not soon lose sight of who the master is.
>Aya: Isn't that only because she is scared of being abused?
>Yukari: No, there is a difference in power, and virtue, between us.
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Bohemian_Archive_in_Japanese_Red/Yukari
For a chaotic youkai, she sure is against free will of her followers.

>> No.12271918

>>12271911
Let's see this:>>12271206

Maybe she changed now, but it's stated plainly she would kill Reisen if she crosses her in their first meeting.

>> No.12271923

>>12271918
Of course, Reisen just arrived, and Eirin don't know if she can trust her.

Given how far she went during IN, she proved her loyalty, despite being a coward. In fact, she's so loyal that Eirin explained everything in SSiB to her.
Meanwhile, Yuyuko was pretending not to care and was leaving Youmoe in the darkness. Fucking Yuyuko, she's a bitch.

>> No.12271927

>>12271923
Yuyuko was only leaving her in the dark because:
1. She wanted Youmu to find out stuff by herself instead of asking.
2. Youmu is quite a dork so she fears Youmu would leak out the fact she's the trump card in Yukari's plan.

>> No.12271929

>>12271927
That's my point.
Eirin may plan to kill Reisen IF she crosses her, but at least she trust her enough to tell her everything.
Yuyuko is just like "lol google it you fucking retad meanwhile I'll just act mysterious and stuff just ta piss you off lolilol ;DDDD !!!1!!"

>> No.12271933

>>12271929
I dunno, man, for me it seem Yuyuko cares enough for Youmu so she wants this opportunity for Youmu to grow her own investigation skills.

Also, Youmu did leak out stuff regarding the rocket's fuel (which is what Yuyuko expects her to leak), imagine if Yuyuko tells her everything and she also leaks everything out, that would ruin the whole plan.

>> No.12271937

>>12271933
"To grow her own investigation skills"?!
Dude, we're talking about a famous clumsy girl who can't stand the snow.
Asking her to investigate on something is basically asking a toddler to cook without explaing it how to handle a knife or a gas cooker.

>> No.12271941

>>12271937
Ah, she did find out about the rocket's fuel through her investigation, without her, Remi wouldn't get to the moon at all.

You like Youmu but you look down on her, unlike Yuyuko.

>> No.12271944

>>12271941
That wasn't Youmu decision at all to leak the rocket fuel part, Yuyuko, who's a prime bitch, basically told her what to say. I don't know why you think she found that by herself.

>> No.12271949

>>12271944
It might not be Youmu's decision to leak out the fuel, but Yuyuko didn't tell her to find out about the fuel, Youmu finds that out by her own investigation.

Obviously, people wouldn't expect a dorky gardener like her to find out something so crucial and complicated such as fuel for a rocket, but she did, while Sakuya, the somewhat smart maid, can't. This means Yuyuko has high expectation for Youmu and doesn't look down on her.

>> No.12271953

>>12271949
>Youmu finds that out by her own investigation
Mmm... Better read it again, because that's not what I remember.

Also,
>Yuyuko has high expectation for Youmu and doesn't look down on her
So high that she tells her to ditch her job and put herself in danger? Eirin almost attacked Patchouli, it was impossible to predict whether she would attack Youmu or not.
BLU BLU HUEG BITCH Yuyuko just uses Youmu as an errand girl, on top of putting her in danger.

>> No.12271963

>>12271953
I consult Chapter 7 again, the part after Youmu bought the books from Kourindou:
>It was the same as usual. Lady Yuyuko always seems like she knows something, but in actuality, she is merely acting on whatever strikes her fancy. I wondered if anything serious would happen if we left things as they were.
>So I resolved my will and confessed about what I had been doing.
>I spoke of my investigation of the rocket and the surveillance of the vampire's house for the past two months.
>I spoke of how the rocket was incomplete as they were missing a method of propulsion.
>And I spoke of once they completed a cylindrical, three-stage rocket, they would be able to launch at any time.
>Lady Yuyuko listened to me with her eyes wide open. I continued my report, prepared for her wrath.
>I don't mind if she is upset. As long as I am able to bring everything down to my level of comprehension, that will be acceptable.
>But the words that came from her mouth were far beyond my wildest expectations.
>"...The vampire will not finish her rocket. If you give that message to the shrine maiden, everything will progress on its own."

So Youmu did find out about the rocket lacking a method of propulsion.

Still, yeah, I do agree that Yuyuko puts her in danger, but if you put your child forever in a glass cage, she will never grow.

>> No.12271972

>>12271963
There's a difference between showing the world to a kid, and throwing said kid in a crocodile pit. And while Gensokyo isn't the worst place in the world (there's Detroit), I don't think that leaving a toddler in it will result in something good.


Also,
>I continued my report, prepared for her wrath
Yuyuko canonically confirmed for having a short temper?

>> No.12271977

>>12271972
That's just Youmu's fear because this investigation was supposed to be secret.

And come on, Youmu is already strong, you think as if Youmu is forever a child.

>> No.12271979

The weirdest part of Youmu's chapter is the beginning:
>A mysterious force created oscillations in the seawater. Waves.
>Although water appears as if it surges towards the shore, in reality the flow of the water is unaffected by the direction of the wave.
>Sound is also a wave that is transmitted through air. Of course, sound can be carried against the wind as well. It can propagate regardless of the direction of airflow.
>Then, what are waves? What are they conveying without displacing matter?
>The more that I pondered about it, the more confused I became. It did not help the headache I had from dealing with people of many different wavelengths for the past half a year.
It's weird because this talk of wavelength instantly reminds me of Udonge rather than Youmu.

>> No.12271980

>>12271977
Remember the snow accident? Remember the fact that she barely speaks to anyone?
Remember she grows up slowlier than a normal human? She may be 20 or 30 or 40, but she's still a young girl.

>> No.12271982

>>12271980
Canonically, she hangs out with plenty of people recently, because of these incidents. See
>The more that I pondered about it, the more confused I became. It did not help the headache I had from dealing with people of many different wavelengths for the past half a year.

And yes, while she's still young, she's not a child anymore, it's the appropriate time for her to find out the world by herself. And Yuyuko expects no less from her gardener/sword instructor.

>> No.12271984

>>12271982
And yet she's still the most spanked touhou. And where there's smoke, there's fire, so I'm not the only guy thinking that Yuyuko is extremely phony. On top of being whimsical. And annoying. And "2mysterious4you".

>> No.12271985

>>12271984
Still, nice to see you recognize the nice side of Yuyuko at least.

I'm still in belief that she's the nicest of the hags. Very hard to gauge Kanako of course.

>> No.12271987

>>12271985
So it's considered nice to spank your gardener?
I think you misread my post, mate.

>> No.12271989

>>12271987
Compared to Yukari's canon abuse of Ran and Reisen's being punished and tested drugs on (semi-canon in Inaba), very yes.

>> No.12271993

>>12271989
In fact, Sakuya is the luckiest one.
>not getting spanked
>not experimented on
>not abused
>depending from the artist, get to spank Flandre once in a while
>SDM is relatively sane compared to Eientei

>> No.12271994

>>12271989
Never mind, it's canon in SWR:
>Takes a dose of the Eirin Brand enhancer. Attack and defense power increase with each dose. Something happens if you take too much, but nobody told Reisen about that.
Shit sucks for Reisen man.

>> No.12271995

>>12271994
That remembers me, when I first discovered Touhou, I had an unpleasant meeting with an Eirin fanboy. Constantly insulting me while repeating that Eirin was nice because she didn't care much for money.

Should have shown that to this French faggot.

>> No.12271997

>>12271995
Eirin has her nice side but as said, she used to be the head of the moon's military, well-versed in all kinds of knowledge, she's heartless if anyone dares to cross her.

>> No.12272000

>>12271994
What if it's something positive?

Reisen is a fucking soldier anyway, this is what she signs up for. And ultimately it's HER who drinks the drugs.

>> No.12272001

>>12271997
There's a difference between being pragmatic (which I believe Eirin is), and being a dick 'forgetting' to warn Reisen of the possible side-effects (which Eirin seems to canonically be).

>> No.12272002

>>12272000
Even if it's Reisen's choice, don't forget she doesn't know all the implications.
It's basically like saying "hey, you can be immortal", and as soon as you drink the stuff, Eirin adds "oh, by the way, you'll never have an erection ever again, and your body will still age until you wither and look like Master Yoda. Lol".

>> No.12272006

>>12272000
>>12272001
I think it's the pharmacist's responsibility to tell her client all the possible side effects of her drugs, especially when the user is her pupil, and she uses them in battles.

This is a dick move because Reisen only uses this in fights, and she doesn't even know it has side effects.

>> No.12272010

>>12272006
Through the idea of Reisen having a bad trip in the middle of a fight is hilarious.

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>>12272006
Unfortunately, I doubt Reisen can question Eirin anyway.

>> No.12272014

>>12272010
It's nothing important because Eirin can cure anything, the problem is Eirin purposely does shit like this.

>> No.12272019

>>12272014
But Inaba proved (partially, at least) that even if Eirin can cure anything, she doesn't.
Remember the small chapter about her 'punishing' Reisen in some gruesome way? Tewi mentions Reisen being unconscious two weeks. And you can bet Eirin wasn't the one feeding her.

>>12272013
I personally like that.

>> No.12272025

>>12271994
Reminds me of Hitler distributing meth to soldiers to boost their senses.

>> No.12272034
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It bothers me of these pictures' descriptions are never trnaslated. I'm sure there's a reason explaining why Reisen is getting punished.

>> No.12272040

>>12272025
This is more like morphine, and not meth right?

Wounded soldiers take morphine to stay awake all the times, it's not a bad drug, it's just medicine.

Eirin is not that crazy right?

>> No.12272041

>>12272040
I though morphine was a painkiller instead of being a stimulant.

>> No.12272050

>>12272040
Eirin is so insane she engages in chemical/biological warfare:
>Poison Smokescreen "Gas-Woven Orb"
>A drug that reacts with air and becomes gas. Since the gas is heavier than air, it sticks to the ground and sucks life out of opponents. Reisen herself has taken the antidote already.

>> No.12272052

>>12272041
Yeah, I think this is more like it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzedrine

>> No.12272054

>>12272050
More like Reisen pilfered Eirin's stack.

That explains >>12272034, Eirin was not amused about that.

>> No.12272067

>>12272054
she still doesn't get spanked as much as youmu does
and reisen is sexy anyway

>> No.12272073

>>12271506
This is not evidence that it actually happened. Reisen definitely "abandoned" her allies, but Eiki seeing Reisen's actions doesn't show anything. There isn't any evidence of anything that could have killed any soldier rabbits. It makes no sense to say that anyone had died when the "war" was obviously mistaken by everyone in the first place.

>> No.12272107

>>12272073
If Shikieiki considered it a large sin, you bet some awful shit happened.

Shiki doesn't joke around when she said Reisen would surely fall to hell if she doesn't start working to repent for her sin.

>> No.12272137

>>12272107
Here's the direct quote:
>Reflection alone is not enough,
>much less regret.
>Commiting a sin and fixing one isn't as >simple as that.
>Without judgement, a sin cannot be settled.
>But even from here, there's a way you can
>prevent your potential fate.
>For that sake, you'll be judged here!
>With your allies you left on the moon and >their resentment!

If it's just a stupid mistake, the moon rabbits, known airheads, wouldn't hate Reisen. And Shiki somehow knows of their hatred, that means these are the souls of dead rabbits telling her.

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>>12271994
Hey man, from the look of it, it's not a drug, it's just a vial of energy drink.

Just look at it, man.

>> No.12272149

>>12272140
It's an "elixir".
Weird name though, "Grand Patriot's Elixir".

>> No.12272185

>>12272107
>If Shikieiki considered it a large sin, you bet some awful shit happened.
Eiki says Mystia singing too much is a sin. Eiki says Yuuka's daily teasing is a sin. She says Aya sins by being too inquisitive. She says Cirno is full of sin because she's too strong for a fairy. She says Youmu sins by not staying in the Netherworld.

Yeah, no. Just like every other character, she just picks something about them that they should reflect on, regardless of who they are. She is well known to exaggerate threats of hell for everyone.

>> No.12272191

>>12272185
...uhm, but in Reisen's case, she considers her sin to be large to the point where reflection and regret aren't enough.

And no, she doesn't throw threat of hell to everyone. As in Sakuya's case, she thinks her soul would be fragile to even make it past the Sanzu river, or Cirno's fault isn't that she's too strong for a fairy, but that with her power, she causes too much trouble. And in Mystia's case, it's not just Eiki's word, Yuuka also comments on her ability coming from an unknown source, and it's dangerous because she can't control it.

>> No.12272197

>>12265767
So basically, youkais are incarnations of fear and other negative feelings, and gods incarnation of faith and positive feelings (or negative in the case of curse gods)

What is the difference between gods and youkais?

>> No.12272199

>>12272197
Read Symposium of Post-Mysticism to find out.

>> No.12272201

>>12272197
>secondary asking secondaries questions

>> No.12272223

>>12272197
One is slightly harder to eliminate than the other.

>> No.12272224

>>12272185
And anyway, regardless of whether you think these acts are sins are not, they are all truth.
Mystia does sing too much.
Yuuka does tease daily on her flower field.
Aya does stick her nose in everyone's business.
Cirno is indeed strong for a fairy.
Youmu does indeed stay active in the living world, much more than Yuyuko.

If the patterns keep ringing true, that means Reisen truly abandons her allies to die as well.

>> No.12272231

>>12272224
Everyone in Gensokyo is in one way or another a horrible, horrible person/being/entity/thing. More at 11

>> No.12272234

>>12272201
>>12272199
>Read Symposium of Post-Mysticism
That's what i did, my conclusion was that both are manifestations of feelings.

As explained by Reimu in Curiosities of Lotus Asia, every single thing have a god on it, and i ASSUME it comes from your feelings when making/using said item. Also, when a item is abandoned for 100 years, it's god is overwhelmed with regret and turns into youkai(or that's my interpretation).

In the end, it seems like both are just beings made from feelings that feed on feelings, both would disappear if all humans were to do so too

>> No.12272235

>>12272231
That's not the point.

The point of Shiki is that everyone makes mistakes, and they should know their mistakes and work to improve their karma.

But because she does this by lecturing straight in people's face (and the fact she sent them to hell), people do not take it kindly to her.

>> No.12272237
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>>12272235
Kasen is worse.

>> No.12272241

>>12272235
Case in point, even the god that should help you improve your life is a asshole.

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>>12272241
You talking shit about my god?

>> No.12272244

>>12272241
She's not an asshole.

She does not need to help you improve your karma, that's something she does in her free time.
Her job is deciding that you be sent to hell or heaven, how you do with your karma is none of her business.

Then again, in some cases, she engages the sinners in combat to help them realize their sins when words fail her.

>> No.12272247

>>12272241
Leniency would damn you. Be ever vigilant!

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>>12272244
So you're trying to say she should mind her own business instead of telling you to stop masturbating to loli spanking tentacle porn?

>> No.12272251

>>12272241
>>12272243
Is she really a god? Ain't she a different class of being? Much like ghosts, fairies and spirits? I mean, she does not come from the same place as gods, nor is bound by expectations like them

>> No.12272252

>>12272250
Your hobby is not a sin, but if you spend all times doing just your hobby, it would be a sin.

Shiki wants you to work, be productive.

>> No.12272254

>>12272243
Why? Yes. Yes i do. Especially when it's a asshole.

>> No.12272255

>>12272251
She's the Judge of the Dead.
She's theorically more powerful than anyone else in Gensokyo, except maybe Amaterasu, Susanoo and Tsukuyomi.

And even so, I'm not sure, I think Japanese gods can die. So she's theorically even more powerful than these gods.

>> No.12272257

>>12272252
Writing spanking touhou fanfiction is a work. Not a hobby.

>> No.12272261

>>12272257
If you make honest money doing it, she would be fine with it, I think.
Shiki's pretty capitalist
>It is often said that to make a profit is not
a good thing,
>but that is only what humans that lack virtue say out of envy.
>They think that not working is good, but that's not the case.
>Money works in such a way that
>earning and spending become good deeds in >themselves.

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>>12272261
>Shiki's pretty capitalist
Shiki confirmed for being a former american woman who moved to Japan, bringing the wonders of capitalism with her.

>> No.12272268

>>12272251
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento_in_Strict_Sense/Yama
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento_in_Strict_Sense/Eiki_Shiki,_Yamaxanadu

>> No.12272274

Shiki:
When you're ferrying the deceased, you receive a fee,
do you not? If you give priority to riders who possess a lot,
that is, riders with much virtue...
It won't take that much time to cross the river, then.
It's efficient, it's profitable...

Komachi:
Ah, no.
It's not as if I don't have the will to earn anything.

Shiki:
For a shinigami, to earn a profit is to kindly
receive those who have done good during their life.
In other words, for you, earning money is to do good.

Komachi:
Yes, I already understand.
But, the life stories of bad guys are also pretty interesting.

Hmm, I wonder if this fee is virtue-based or based on the actual number of wealth you amass in life. Either ways, going fast or slow, you are going to hell.

>> No.12272276

>>12272274
Depends how much of a faggot you were.
If nobody likes you, your corpse is dumped in a garden and used as manure.
If people like you, you get a beautiful grave and some offerings, and thus can cross.

>> No.12272279

>>12272276
Ah, so it is virtue-based after all.

>> No.12272280

>>12272255
Shinto gods certainly can, Kanako would disappear if she lost all of her followers and nobody remember her anymore, just like youkais do. I assume she could die if someone loped her head off too, but maybe she would just respawn like fairies, if she still have followers.

>>12272268
>Nearly all Yama are formerly old Jizou
>google links me to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ksitigarbha#Overview
>(...)usually depicted as a Buddhist monk in the Orient
Basically they are super Buddhists, probably like Hermits (Xian) are supper Taioists, who them got buffed by the 10 kings.
Basically she is a ultra human

>> No.12272284

>>12272279
It's still possible to cheat the system and ask for being buried with your money, or be a nice guy and have your tomb raided, so it's not 100% reliable.

>> No.12272285

>>12272266
And now the "Judge of the dead" is a hook nosed kike.

This just keep getting better and better

>> No.12272288
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>>12272280
Eiki Shiki was a jizou statue, she was a rock.

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>>12272285
You mean beside being a closet masochist believing in corporal punishment?
Yeah.

>> No.12272291

>>12272289
Aw shit nigger, that just doesn't make sense.

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>>12272288
>she was a rock
Just like this guy right?

>> No.12272298

>>12272291
She can't be sticking her nose in people's business and tell them how to live while being a masochist?
Why are you so based, check your privilege, Anon. Masochists are everywhere. Maybe you know one.

>> No.12272300

>>12265735
I got bored so much by like the 12th chapter or so I fell asleep.

>> No.12272301

>>12272296
No, as in she was a rock statue who gained enough faith and then got hired into the yama position.

>> No.12272303

>>12270460
>It shows that Yuyuko>Yukari.
...Because she brings a bottle of sake instead of bringing anything more significant?

>> No.12272309

>>12272303
If she brought anything aside from food/consummable item, she would be asked to given back said item and she would have no excuse.

>> No.12272312

>>12272301
A rock is a rock, nobody would pray for it, unless it represents something, in this case, you are praying to the thing the rock represents through the rock, but not to the rock.

The manga with the 3 fairies of light do talk about those rocks, but i can't recall what is said about it

>> No.12272317

>>12272312
Yeah, it's a rock statue made to look like a buddhist saint.

people pray to them for goodluck and direction and such

>> No.12272321

>>12272284
When people raid your tomb, your soul is already long gone man.

>> No.12272323

>>12272317
>made to look like a Buddhist saint
then they are praying to the Buddhist saint, not the rock, she was a Buddhist saint, not a rock
not any Buddhist saint, a Ksitigarbha, (past this point is conjucture) which is analogous to hermits which are super taioists.

In the end, she was a super buddhist(super human) who became a ultra human after the 10 kings gave her a buff

>> No.12272324

>>12272321
Unless your tomb was shitting on Feng Shui.
I have a movie where a guy resting in such a tomb raises from his grave as a jiang shi.

Basically, dn't piss off Futo, or you'll end up as a zombie ghost.

>> No.12272333

>>12272323
Well, there is only one Ksitigarbha, but there are a ton of jizou statues made to look like him, she was one of those statues.

>> No.12272335

>>12272324
That's your corpse, not your soul, though.

Unless your soul somehow beats up shinigami like Komachi, only your corpse would remain.

>> No.12272338

>>12272335
But Jiang shi are smart. If they really lacked a soul, they wouldn't be able to think.

>> No.12272339

>>12272333
shit, then she was really just a rock. If that is the case, then she is(was) analogous to a youkai/god, for which she came to existence thanks to people's feelings, after she got buffed by the 10 kings, she might have became something else, but she used to be a youkai/god thingy

>> No.12272343

>>12272338
Remember that your corpse still has your rotten brain, so it makes sense to remember something.

>> No.12272345

>>12272343
Sorry, I have trouble believing that.
Maybe I have a different definition of what a soul is, but I have trouble believing that a soul-less corpse would even be able to talk.

>> No.12272349

>>12272345
It might not be able to think, but due to the fact it has a lifetime experience of moving and talking, it might remember how to do it by muscle memory.

>> No.12272352

>>12272349
Moving, yeah. Talking...
Moving the lips and blowing air between the lips, yeah.

Understanding the meaning behind the words, however, requires something else than a rotting brain.

>> No.12272357

>>12272352
they can read, that is a fact.
they will do whatever is written on the price tag on their heads

>> No.12272367

>>12272268
>Moreover, whenever a living person's karma is so bad that it becomes certain that he will go to Hell, she will go directly to warn that person during her work break, and may even urge the person to better himself. (*2)
>2: Perhaps by exaggerating the punishment that the person will receive.
Then it's not an exaggeration, is it, if it's so bad already?

Either ways, this means she only exaggerates when you fuck up so badly.

>> No.12272374

>>12272367
I don't think it's possible to get them all in her work breaks.

That or the certain-go-to-hell list is very short, or she only goes for persons who she deem redeemable or living shortest to her.

>> No.12272377

>>12272374
The fact she goes at all is worth something.

She can just take a break in her work break, ya know?

>> No.12272384

>>12272377
Maybe going to lecture and beat up sinner is her way to take a break.

>> No.12272385

>>12272000
I though Reisen was a lesbian rangirl trying to set up Mokou and Kaguya together?

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>>12272384
She's not as bad as Kasen.For Shikieiki, it's a job.
For that hermit, it's a hobby.

>> No.12272393

>>12272390
Wait, I haven't read WaHH, what does Kasen do?

>> No.12272395

>>12272393
You mean besides preaching and bossing everyone around? Nothing.

>> No.12272406

>>12272385
Now that's fanon bullshit.

Not even Inaba Reisen does that.

>> No.12272434

>>12272406
Damn, I liked that Reisen.

>> No.12272448

Makes me laugh how all the retards are claiming Inaba isn't canon because Zun isn't credited as the one who wrote them.
Obvious they know he had to approve them before they were published, they're not stupid enough to believe they would ninja Zun.

>> No.12272458

>>12272448
But whether ZUN consider it canon or not is another matter.
He can approve its publication under his name, but it's still considered derivative, nonetheless.

>> No.12272464

>>12272458
>it's still considered derivative
Yes. By retards. Thanks for supporting my point.

>> No.12272465

>>12272458
Inaba references Bohemian Archive in Japanese Red plenty of times.

>> No.12272473

>>12272465
Don't bother arguing with him, secondaries are famous for ignoring what doesn't suit them.

>Akyuu says that Yuuka is extremely hostile and dangerous
>"WTF that bitch never goes out and is paranoid THIS IS NOT CANNON"

>Inaba says that Eirin's training is extremely brutal and that the Watatsukis are actually quite friendly
>"ZUN DIDN'T NOT WRITE IT SO IT IS NOT CANNON"

>ZUN says during an interview that Kisume has an eyelander and collects heads
>"zOMG HE DIDN'T SAID IT OFFICIALLY SO IT DOESN'T CUNT THIS IS NOT CATAPULT"

>> No.12272474

People don't like Inaba because they portrait so many things like the fanon like useless abused Reisen, bully and greedy Tei, sadistic Eirin and Hourai NEET

But even Cage portraits Kaguya as having nothing to do so she just takes care of the udonge bonsai, showing that even in a "serious" work, she's still a NEET

>> No.12272475

>>12272474
Isn't Kaguya supposely Eirin's pupil, like Reisen?

>> No.12272476

>>12272473
As i said: everyone is a horrible horrible being

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>>12272476
When I see people on the Internet, I wonder how we managed to survive long enough to discover fire.

>> No.12272478

>>12272475
Weird, I don't remember that.

I just know the reason she takes care of Guya is because she felt guilty for letting she drink the hourai elixir.

>> No.12272479

>>12272478
> because she felt guilty for letting her* drink the hourai elixir.
Typo.

>> No.12272487

>>12272478
Nevermind, I though it was on Kaguya's profile, but I can't find it, so I assume I read it in a doujin and incorporated it.

Also, you're wrong about Eirin : she doesn't feel guilty because Kaguya drank the elixir, she feels guilty because she was the one who made it and wasn't punished while Kaguya was ban& from the moon.

Also, she's apparently way stronger than Kaguya but never goes all out, to preserve Kaguya's ego.

>> No.12272489

>>12272473
>Watatsukis are actually quite friendly

I'm along the guy who say Inaba comics were non-canon. But this fact is true. In CoLR, she was friendly and hospitable towards Reimu who stays at the Lunar Capital for a few days.

>> No.12272490

>>12272477
We needed something to kill stuff better.

Someone looked at fire and said "I bet i can kill stuff with this"
Then he decided to find ways to make it's own because fuck waiting for a lightining strike on some tree

>> No.12272491

>>12272464
>>12272473
Easy dude, I didn't said Inaba isn't canon. I just joined the conversation.
Just saying that it's possible to approve something as derivative, so approvement generally doesn't measure the canonical of a story. i.e. Take-Moon/Carnival Phantasm. So people's confusion is justified.

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>>12272491
I wasn't saying that specifically for you.
I was, um, 'strawmanning'. Getting rid of the frustration that builds up each time I read one of these "X thing isn't canon because [reason] and it contradicts my frail headcanon and I hate thinking".
Because I saw people seriously saying that Akyuu's book isn't reliable, that ZUN lied during the interview to be edgy and grimderp, or that Inaba doesn't have anything to do with ZUN.
And that's really irritating to read excuses like that. Feels like playing with a kid, you pretend to shoot him, and he says "nu-hu, it didnt count because I has a forcefield". Same thing. Pathetic excuses.

Shit I'm mad again now.


>>12272489
Of course she's nice. Through a little patronizing.

>> No.12272512

>>12272487
>Also, she's apparently way stronger than Kaguya but never goes all out, to preserve Kaguya's ego
That's the sole reason she was allowed to be in a game

>> No.12272552

>>12272497
Maybe you should grow some skin and stop quoting nobody.

>> No.12272562

>>12266685
>We must never forget their crimes.
Meanwhile, let's forget that the USA bombed civilians towns during the WWII and still haven't apologized, while China is constantly reminding Japan of the massacre they did.

Double standard, much?

>> No.12272577

>>12272562
Let's not getting into the war crime Olympics here.

>> No.12272582

>>12272577
Mao Tze Tsong has the best score anyway.

>> No.12272593

>>12272577
Just saying that the USA bombed two civilians towns with nuclear bombs and got away, while Toyohime did nothing and still get flak because she threatened to level Gensokyo.

>> No.12272601

I wonder If Lunarians are really strong out of the moon,
because if I remeber correctly, mooncunt1 is weak against impurities and mooncunt2 only have that overpowered fan.

>> No.12272605

>>12272593
Fans are hypocrits? Wow, that's a discovery.

>> No.12272619

>>12272593
Really, people were just mad that the two sisters manage to beat their favorite characters.

If you look at it from a far, it's just two strong sisters and a bunch of coward rabbits versus a lot of people, so the war was unfair from a danmaku standpoint.

>> No.12272621

>>12272601
Yorihime beats Reisen 1 and Reisen 2 easily on Earth in Inaba.

>> No.12272624

>>12272619
I though the whole thing was precisely about the fact that the moonhoneys don't play by Gensokyo's rules.

>> No.12272627

>>12272601
The Moon itself is weak against impurities, as it is a completely pure environment.

I'm pretty sure that the moon honeys or any well-equipped rabbit would be able to topple modern battalions in short time.

>> No.12272628

>>12272624
Yorihime agreed to fight using danmaku to minimize loss, she handled the front while Totoyohime kept watch on the back to catch Yukari. The two of them must handle all possible invasions.

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>>12272473
>>12272497
>Akyuu says that Yuuka is extremely hostile and dangerous

Akyuu says youkai are extremely hostile and dangerous by definition.

>I saw people seriously saying that Akyuu's book isn't reliable

Akyuu says her book isn't reliable.

>>12272601
They aren't "weak against impurities", they'd just lose their functional immortal status upon constant exposition to them, just like any Earthling currently does. It doesn't affect their powers or combat proficiency.

>> No.12272635

>>12272633
>Akyuu says her book isn't reliable.
And here we go again.

>> No.12272640

>>12272619
Not unfair if you consider Yorihime the protagonist and the invaders the bosses.

>> No.12272647

>>12272593
The nukes were there to scare russians anyway.

And like it or not, the moonlight itself did give rise to youkai and scary things in the dark.

Anyway, it's wise to know about the past, but let's not point finger here.

>> No.12272659

So sad nobody scanlates these 4 doujins:
http://exhentai.org/g/692552/789f06061f/
http://exhentai.org/g/692748/1d15480b81/
http://exhentai.org/g/692749/2da61d669d/
http://exhentai.org/g/692753/19d560977c/

>> No.12272848

>>12272633
>Akyuu says her book isn't reliable

No. Her book is spot on. It's just that now in modern times where Youkai and Gensokyoian Humans has mutual understanding, She just glorifies Youkai's ferocity just to make sure Youkai are still relevant in their existence.

>> No.12272856

>>12272345
There's the Kon and the Haku, generally translated as Soul and Spirit. Basically the kon is your higher consciousness, while the haku is your life force and worldly desires.

A ghost is a raw kon. IIRC the evil spirits from Hell are raw haku. A jiangshi is a body+haku without a kon (but with a talisman on their face that emulates some of its functions). Youmu has most of her kon outside her body somehow.

>> No.12274346

>>12272856
So Youmu has some resistance to spanking or any other kind of physical punishment, compared to Ran?

Maybe the other anon is right and that Youmu really has it easy, then.

>> No.12274396

>>12274346
Spanking Youmu is a privilege because she's the softest.

>> No.12274397

>>12274396
plz spankfag
plz go

youmu is for love not spanking

>> No.12274401

>>12274397
at youmoe ass tho

damn

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>>12274401
Youmu ass is best ass

>> No.12274680

>>12274401
I want to love Youmu deep in the ass while she moans in pain.

>> No.12277798

>>12272647
So they murdered tons of people and scarred an entire civilization just to scare the russians?

Yankees really were dicks back in the day.

>> No.12278617

>>12277798
The russians would murder and rape more.

Just look at Berlin.

>> No.12278874

>>12278617
Typical defense.
>"You're a faggot for doing that!"
>"Yeah but XXXX did worse, look at him instead!"

>> No.12278894

>>12278874
typical modern leftist defense
>X did statistically more damage, and could have done more had we not taken proper measures and dealt with the collateral damage.
>"but you're wrong we could have defeated them with obama hope its true my women's lit professor told me and that is why everyone else is blameless too"

>> No.12278901

>>12278874
It's typical but it's true.

A land invasion would be much, much worse for either sides.

>> No.12279309

>>12278894
Bitch please
>Hiroshima and Nagasaki are bombed
>70k gooks die immediately
>70k more are suffering from radiation
>japanese doctor asks americans if they put gases in the bomb
>"XDDD noooo there was no gases"
>australian reporter starts talking about "nuclear fever"
>his articles are censored, americafat pretends the nuclear bomb is a "clean bomb"
>meanwhile americafat are writing down how the irradiated gooks are reacting to radiations
>while experimenting on "human products" with lead syringues

Not only they bombed CIVILIANS towns, but they also lied about the bomb being clen, resulting in many more casualties as people were dying from unknown causes.
And as if that wasn't enough, they also experimented on their own citizens.

>> No.12279311

>>12279309
It's war bro.

And to be honest, around 140K is low casualty compared to the shit that was going in Germany when the russian came.

>> No.12279315

>>12279311
And yet you people are saying that Toyohime is a war criminal for wanting to destroy Gensokyo.
The human population probably doesn't go over 100, maybe 200 humans.
The rest are youkai, and who gives a fuck about these leeches?

>> No.12279316

>>12279315
Hey man, it's just one dude.

>> No.12279317

>>12279316
Nah, it's canon there are many males living in the village.
They just only appears to be killed. They're like Star Trek's redhirts.

>> No.12279319

>>12279317
I'm saying there's only dude saying Toyo is a war criminal.

>> No.12279322

>>12279319
Ha okay.

Idiots are just louder. You hear one of them, you think there are seven of them.

>> No.12281093

>>12266925

Of course they are. They have incredible technology and power, and don't share it with the world below when they could do so much good.

They might not be willing to kill in their backyard, but they're fine with watching the corpses pile up next door.

>> No.12281155

>>12281093
Nobody ever share its tech.
If they had to decide, the US woulda never shared the tech to make nuclear bomb with Stalin.

>> No.12281174
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This is about as canon as the god power Reimu got after IN in SSiB

Moonarians are shits

Always will be shits

>> No.12281182

>>12281174
Source.

>> No.12281187

>>12281174
Are you still butthurt that the moonhones canonically beat your waifu without breaking a sweat?

>> No.12281263

>>12281174
she uses it at least in WaHH, checkmate

>> No.12281337

>>12281093
This is like sharing tech with prisoners.

Even in our world, we don't do that shit.

Letting the prisoners self moderate on Earth is already pretty laissez-faire.

>> No.12281654

>>12281174
>Why would she be able to channel spirits just because that's a miko's job
Dude, SSiB wasn't even the last time she did that. Read CoLA and WaHH. Or heck, since Sanae does it in every game, does that mean Sanae is non-canon?

>> No.12281656

>>12281174
>>12281654
Reimu's god powers have showed up more times in canon than Flandre has.

>> No.12281663

>>12281182
Spongebob

>> No.12281670

>>12281654
>Or heck, since Sanae does it in every game
To note, Sanae doesn't get to channel every native god. Sanae's powers are from Kanako and Suwako giving it to her; Reimu is more like "hey I'm borrowing you for a sec okay thanks".

>> No.12281849

>>12281093
Do you know that being unable to understand another person's point of view is a sine qua non condition to be a sociopath?

>> No.12282820

>>12281656
IN's special spellcards don't count.

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ITT : a secondary finally read the official works.

>> No.12287066
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>> No.12287133

>>12284316
>>12287066
I'm OP of this thread and I was the same anon this post criticized ;_;

>> No.12287136

>>12282820
she doesn't use her god powers in IN, what

>> No.12287307
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>>12287136
"Fantasy Nature"

>> No.12287375

>>12287307
Fantasy Nature isn't god powers, it's Reimu's innate powers at full blast. That's why it's called "Nature". This is explained multiple times.

>> No.12287403

>>12287375
>A secret technique that is extreme in many ways. With Reimu's ability to float, she floats from everything in reality and becomes invincible. If it wasn't just for play (with time limit), no one could beat her with any method.

>Notes: Rare, theatrical type
>Get-to-the-Choppa Level: ★★★★★★★
>Reimu becomes completely impossible to touch. She's in an opaque invisible man state.
>This seems like Reimu's ultimate mysteries, but it looks like she just closes her eyes; then, the danmaku aims itself and fires towards the enemy automatically.
>By the way, at the beginning this wasn't a spell card at all, but I changed this into play by giving it the name of a spell card. Otherwise, there's no chance to win.
>This truly is a spell card that can be used only by Reimu's innate power. Thus, I named this tensei (lit. "innate from birth") as well.

>> No.12287645

>>12287375
>implying Fantasy Nature isn't god mode

Let me remind you what the post said:
>Reimu's god powers
It's not talking about summoning, it's talk about god (OP) powers.

>> No.12287676

>>12287307
Fantasy Heaven actually

>> No.12287694

where I can get the translation of that, when I got on touhou I tried to look for it and didnt find one

also, what whit the mangas of Kosuzu and Kasen, they havent get something in months? or at least translated

>> No.12287701

something I love about symposium post mysticism is that destroy some of the fandom perception of some characters, like the one of Nitori, but also, basically, made canon some of them, like the on with kogasa

>> No.12287709

>>12287403
>Get-to-the-Choppa Level

Who wrote this? The wiki say "Thirty-Six-Strategy Level"

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>>12287709
Dunno, pasted it from the wiki. Check the history.

>> No.12287890

>>12287709
Poster of >>12287403 here. I didn't want to explain the joke, but "Thirty-Six Strategies" makes no sense without it, so I figured I'd have some fun and use a non-literal translation then see how long it took someone to notice.
>Wiki's translation note: 'The Thirty-Six Strategies means "all the strategies there are", and is usually referred to as part of the Chinese phrase "三十六計,走為上策" (Of the Thirty-Six Stratagems, fleeing is best) or Japanese "三十六計逃げるに如かず" (Of the Thirty-Six Strategies, nothing is better than escaping).'

The rest of GoM is already filled with jokes and memes, so I'm sure Marisa would approve.

>> No.12287909

>>12287645
Musou Tensei isn't just an IN thing though - it shows up in Soku and HM as well. Heck, it's a lot easier to see in those games.

>> No.12288178

>>12287909
>implying I play non-canon fighting game
Bitch, a REAL touhou fan (tm) only plays the danmaku.

>> No.12288806

>>12287676
No, actually. It was just translated as Heaven for years because 天 is in the name and nobody knew better. 天性 is like "innate", as in this is Reimu's innate power. Once GoM came out it confirmed that this was the intention and any sensible translation now uses Fantasy Nature.

>>12287645
Um, no?
>This is about as canon as the god power Reimu got after IN in SSiB
>Reimu's god powers have showed up more times in canon than Flandre has.
They were talking about channeling gods. The "IN's special spellcards don't count" guy was mistaken.

>> No.12288825

>>12288806
Speaking of which, why would you even call Reimu's more broken powers "god powers" when she actually has the ability to communicate with native gods? Why would you do something so pointlessly confusing.

>> No.12290000

>The sudden opening of the exhibition sent a shock throughout Gensokyo, and there were few whose interest it didn't capture.
>Most of the displays at the exhibition could be divided into three categories.
>The first is the classic category of amazing items, such as carriages that fly through the sky, garments that make the body light enough to float through the air, the rabbits' mortars, etc.
>These exhibits allow viewers to imagine the life of nobles in the Lunar Capital.
>The next group, the military category, provided a stark contrast to the classics category: a vulcan cannon light enough to wield with one hand, an ultra-small Planck bomb, a roving tank designed for lunar exploration, and other modern weapons.
>This gave viewers a glimpse at the incredibly advanced technology of the Lunar Capital.
>The final group, the academic category, consisted of document exhibits: the books of lunar history, divine medicine, mathematical philosophy, mad grimoires, etc.
>Even though the books were written on paper, they still used advanced technology: the pictures moved, solid forms would pop out of the pages, and unfamiliar words in the text would be explained in incredible detail if you simply touched them.
>Unfortunately, they were all written in the Lunarian language, and thus, completely incomprehensible.

Daily reminder that Inaba isn't joking aroiund and Eientei packs the most heat out of the factions, barring the tengu/kappu.

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Reading Perfect Memento of Strict Sense right now, people say Akyuu stays at home and imagines shit, but these images clearly show that she goes out to visit places and write them down, unless she somehow commissioned them to be drawn.

>> No.12290044

>>12290041
>of
Meant in.

>> No.12290062

>Still, the humans called the Children of Miare -- to make a long story short, we are not able to live for very long.
>I don't know whether this is because the reincarnation is imperfect or because we simply know too much, but I probably will not live until thirty.
>Furthermore, my preparations for the ritual of reincarnation must begin several years in advance of that.
>As a result, I likely will not have much of a chance to experience life as a normal human being.
>This is my one regret, especially as it is much easier to enjoy an easy-going, pleasant life in Gensokyo now than in the past.
>The ritual of reincarnation involves petitioning the Yama for permission during my lifetime; then, for over a hundred years during which my body for the next reincarnation is prepared, I work for the Yama in Hell.
;_;

Still, at least she got to work with Shiki.

>> No.12290076

>>12290041
She goes where regular humans go. She cannot travel where regular humans can't(Youkai Mountain, underground, etc.).

>> No.12290078

>>12290076
Ay, that's true and that's where some of the speculations start, but considering she walks to Muenzaka (which is the farthest point of Gensokyou), I think it's bollocks to say that she's a stay at home bookworm.

>> No.12290119

>>12290041
Moron will invent every excuse to explain that Akyuu is wrong and that their waivus love humans instead of killing them on sight.

>> No.12290138

All that discussion reminds me of a discussion I once witnessed, about a fanfiction. I'll make it short :
>protagonist arrives in Gensokyo
>meet yuuka
>insults yuuka because he's lol randum dumbass
>Yuuka goes "omg nobody talked to me like that before MAKE LOVE TO ME"
>mfw nobody else complains
>mfw trying to bring up PMiSS leads to "dude u cant trust aykuu shes a bitch lel"

>> No.12290139

>>12290119
In the same book:
>Still, it's quite obvious that Gensokyo has changed drastically over the past hundred years or so.
>The days where humans live in terror of youkai or desperately exterminate them have passed, and the world has become a place where youkai come to the human village to play and humans are invited into the houses of devils.
>This edition of the Gensokyo Chronicles is the first of these books to be written in the new Gensokyo.
>Nowadays, youkai almost never eat humans.
>As a result, I spent a lot of time worrying what to write about, and the usual warnings about youkai and descriptions of how to protect yourself from them followed as a result, but I spent some time arranging them a bit (*1) to try to provide a new youkai-centric viewpoint.
>I even tried picking out specific youkai and delving a bit into their personal lives, as I wanted to help create new relationships between humans and youkai.
>In addition, I received a great number of requests from youkai (*2), so what started out as a guide to help humans defend themselves from youkai became, before I knew it, a manual for youkai to help others learn about them.
>In fact, a number of the youkai threat levels have been inflated somewhat in this volume.
>This probably isn't cause for too much concern, as humans are almost never kidnapped and eaten by youkai in today's Gensokyo.

Youkai are okay mang

>> No.12290141

>>12290138
Who are you quoting, anon-san?

>> No.12290145

>>12290141
Google "Just an Average Joe". You'll see who I am quoting.

>>12290139
And yet, in the Horny Hermit books, Yukari admits that youkais still eat people, heavily suggesting the devoured humans are outsiders.
Gensokyo is a parasite leeching lives from the outside world.

>> No.12290147

>>12290145
I think Akyuu even touches on that.
>In the current state of affairs, Gensokyo could continue to exist unchanged for quite some time.
>Today's Gensokyo is heavily dependent on the outside world.
>This follows fairly obviously from the fact that the Great Barrier is a boundary of common sense, but it is certainly frightening to think that there are things that cannot be done with just powers existing in Gensokyo.

As long as there are suicidal people, youkai in Gensokyou wouldn't lack food.

>> No.12290148

>>12290147
>implying people who disappears are all suicidal
>implying implications
>implying yukari isn't a bitch
>implying curious human don't disappear too
>implying Yukari doesn't abduct human that she doesn't like
>implying that wallet thief that she met once in a russian subway was suicidal

>> No.12290157 [DELETED] 

>>12290148
Who are you quoting again, anon-san?

>> No.12290171

>>12290145
>And yet, in the Horny Hermit books, Yukari admits that youkais still eat people

Wrong.

All she actually said is that youkai eat, which is hardly a revelation. Everything more you might have heard is grimdarkfags being retarded as usual.

>> No.12290172

>>12290171
>someone else also thinks grimderpfags are annoying as fuck
I would hug you so bad I would break your ribs. No homo.

Joke aside, Yukari does talk about the meat used to feed the youkai, through, yeah, I should look for the original speech.

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