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You can either do something fun and creative like art and music, but it's very doubtful you'll make any money from it.
Or you can do something boring and soul sucking like playing the stock markets, purely for jew gold

>>12215035

You aren't going to make any money the first few >>years<< you pick up any skill. You can try searching any of the creative boards for ideas but whatever you choose you have to commit to it like a heart beating and not waste any time. In other words have a strong work ethic and enjoy the learning process.

>>12215035
Fundamentally you need to learn an actually useful skill and stop being NEET. Technically there are things you could do without leaving the house like SEO, but the only way you're really going to get anything out of that is through blackhat techniques that are questionable or outright illegal, and again when you add up the hours of effort spent developing those skills and practising them you would probably have been better off working minimum wage flipping burgers or something.

Programming is an obvious possibility. You do need some limited ability to talk to people and work in teams, but you'll find that at any decent company people mostly just focus on their work and don't talk to each other because i)programming demands that sort of focus and ii)all good programmers are at least slightly autistic / obsessive. It's likely you'll be able to work remotely from home at least now and then.

>>12215035
>>12215141
Also if you look into this I'd suggest Python as your first language. It's not that hard to get started with, has a huge community with code samples everywhere and is an actually useful and quite powerful language. C# and C++ later, make sure you learn C++11 / 13 though which improved the language a lot.

You could always be a cam whore, or sell your body while you're playing games or just lurkin'. Post pics afterwards.

>>12215150
Python is a terrible idea as a first language. It encourages too many bad habits and will make it too hard to transition to a real language with strong typing and sane syntax.

Learn C#, Java, or C++ first. Python makes it too easy to dust your mistakes under the rug. It's a beginners' language, but does quite poorly at it.

>>12215035
You could turn to crime.

>>12215169
I'd say it has to be something that can be run in a procedural / interpreted fashion, so there's less hassle to get to the "hello world" stage and you get somewhat friendly error messages. My first serious foray into programming was with Perl but Perl 6 = being released at the same time as S&W S3 and it can't be denied that Python has a huge community and examples all over stackoverflow etc.

Beyond being "something interpreted" it doesn't actually matter though. Being a good programmer is about developing general skills, sure you'll probably have to specialise into a couple of languages later but by that point you should be able to pick up the fundamentals of any language in a couple of weeks (inb4 aspies pointing out the existence of counterexamples like Malbolge etc.)

>>12215169

Not OP, but do you know how I could start learning C++? Any books, websites or anything you would recommend to begin with?

Depends. Did you learn the language? You can try translating stuff for money.
You can try poker. Some discipline and risk managment is all you need. this however is time consuming and very repetitive/boring.
Web design is also an option.
You can try being admin/moderator/newsmaker in a forum or mmo. But their payments is abysmall.

If you are after solid/stable income then just stop being a neet.

>>12215207
Not him but I want an income other than youth allowance but no one will employ me.

You can try prostitution

Don't listen to anyone else and learn Lisp first! It's the official language of anime girls.

>>12215202
The "classic" texts you see mentioned all the time are still good but I do wish Meyers would stop being a lazy faggot and update his books properly rather than just releasing a supplementary "lol btw here's the new language features that completely change how you should code" PDF.

Scott Meyers:
- Effective C++ Third Edition
- More Effective C++

Herb Sutter:
- Exceptional C++

Cline, Lonow, Girou:
- C++ FAQs (whatever the latest edition is)

If you need to do high concurrency stuff then
Anthony Williams
- C++ Concurrency in Action - Practical Multithreading


I've got Josuttis' "The C++ Standard Library" doorstop too, technically it's good but honestly I basically never read it, you can mostly just look that shit up online, so it's questionable if it's worth the considerable asking price.

>>12215212
Worth learning *later* if only to expand your horizons, Haskell has been having a bit of a renaissance of late as well and being used to actually do useful things instead of academic bullshit.

/prog/ please, when was the last time you finished one of your projects and made money off of it?

>Become fit and attractive.
>Sell your body to rich old hags and faggot.
>Don't spend it so you actually build a fortune.
>Spend the rest of your life living off your allowance while cuddling with daki.

>>12215223

>with your asshole stretched wide enough to fit a whole 2 liter Pepsi bottle

>>12215223
have fun with aids faggot
who the fuck u quting?

>>12215218
That would be the ~4K new and changed LOC project I effectively did completely on my own for Deutsche Bank.
(I don't normally come to /jp/ as you might have guessed.)

>>12215223
Could you though? Could you really sleep with your waifu when you know all the things that you have done?

>>12215231
that's not sanae

>>12215236
She wouldn't care because she knew you had to do it! She'd still love Anon!

>>12215245
No she would not, even if she did I could no longer look her in the eyes.

>>12215229
>Not wanting to be able to put 2 pepsi bottle into you.

>>12215230
>What is a condom?

>>12215236
She'll know that you did it because you loved her so you could spend the rest of your life with her cuddling without having to leave for 9h to work.

>>12215244
From Ika Musume, not 2hu.
Recommended viewing if you haven't seen it yet.

>>12215252
>what is a condom

Knowing fags they will tell you to do it RAW just one time (knowing you're an anal virgin) and convince you with double the cash.

there's so much i want to do but the hardest thing is motivation

how do I get motivation

>>12215259
this post is now officially squidified

>>12215264
You drink a lot of coffee or do a lot of cocaine. Either one will work.

>>12215264
Improve your diet, walk around more, but fundamentally you have to just do it. It gets easier once you achieve things, especially hard things, because your brain rewards you for it with dopamine etc and the neural pathways are reinforced.

>>12215268
The programmers == caffeine addicts thing is largely true, and occasionally I'll augment that with piracetam and modafinil, but you have to be very careful about using *anything* as a crutch. Adderall, Ritalin etc are considerably worse in this regard though. I imagine cocaine might make you code pretty quickly but also badly due to the ego inflation and scattered state of mind.

>>12215264
I could post one of those cheesy inspirational motivational youtube videos that will give you a temporary high before you lose motivation again...
or
Drink lots of coffee like >>12215268 said.

>>12215280
What food is best for tricking my brain into releasing chemicals that will motivate me?

>>12215281
Does anything with caffeine work?
I don't like coffee much

>>12215283
You need to eat an overall healthy balanced diet, there's no shortcuts I'm afraid. Chances are high that like most people you eat way, WAY too many carbs and should mostly be eating complete proteins + veggies + healthy fats instead. 99% of supplements are a scam but ones actually worth taking as a man are cod liver oil and zinc.

If you insist on pharmaceuticals *as well*, try piracetam and/or choline and DMAE, but they won't do much good if your diet is otherwise awful and you consequently have the testosterone count of a 70 year old.

>>12215289
I don't really eat anything all day, except the lunch my dad makes for me and then later in the day some sandwiches.

>>12215285
You could have like 23 5-hour energies!

>>12215261
Well if you're stupid enough to do this you deserve to die.

>>12215292
Go to /fit/, no really. I know they're all gay steroid-using bodybuilders but there's a lot of surprisingly good advice there too. You're very probably "skinnyfat" which I can say from personal experience makes you feel horribly tired all the time, depressed, and looking like you've just been liberated from Auschwitz-Birkenau.

>>12215298
Please don't use /jp/ to bully others.

/jp/ is bully-free.

>>12215312
S-sorry I didn't want to be a meanie.

>>12215302
How do I make the skinnyfat pain from doing anything stop?

>>12215230
>aids
>2014

People stopped getting aids in the 80's anon.
I know a lot of sloots, but I don't know anyone who has aids, hell, I don't even know anyone who knows anyone that has aids.

>>12215333

It's all fun and games until you lie on your death bed stuffing pills.

>>12215333
go have sex in washington dc and you'll die shortly thereafter

>>12215333
That's because AIDS doesn't really exist. Just another government scare.

>>12215342
What is that, nigga land?
Guess that would make sense, aids is a nigger illness.

No one in my entire family line has ever had aids, and it's been going for century's, but we are white.

>>12215325
Stop being skinnyfat. In practice that means eating right, lifting heavy things (by your standards,) then lifting heavier things once you get stronger (there's a fairly rapid increase in the first month or so if you keep it up known as "noob gains" which is nice.) Again, this is something that /fit/ can help you more with than this board. I don't say that it will be easy, but I do say that it will work.

It doesn't help that official government nutritional advice is still pretty bad, the grain-heavy food pyramid is largely a result of 70's agricultural lobbying. For example the only acceptable breakfast foods for a man are eggs, bacon, or maybe porridge oats with some berries if you're bulking. That's JUST eggs and bacon, not with a shitload of bread and sugary sauce.

Thank you /jp/, I will finally stop procrastinating and finish working on my project.

>>12215348
Is there a training that allows me to maintain my girlish figure?
I dont wanna be buff

>>12215353
Can I see your ass?

>>12215348
Any alternatives to lifting? Lifting weights is exactly what I don't want to do. Is swimming or biking or yoga ok?

>>12215348
I would do all these things if I could but I live with my crazy 60 year old mother who is a hoarder. She only buys fast food. the kitchen looks like something out of dark souls, full of rotting leftovers, cockroaches, flies, etc.
I'm waiting for her to die before I start my life

>>12215353
Ugh I bet your that attention whore from earlier

do trap porn

>>12215353
Yes, putting on serious mass is hard and doesn't just happen. Also girls can deadlift twice their bodyweight and still look pretty feminine. In fact every self-respecting trap absolutely needs to do deadlifts and squats to get dat ass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuWBsH5SVVo

>>12215355
Cycling is the best of those, do that if you enjoy it I guess. Really though everyone should lift, I know it seems intimidating but it starts with "buy a couple of adjustable dumbbells for like $30 and work out in your NEET lair." To get even some of the benefits to VO max and LBM from just cardio takes *a lot* more work and shit like Tabitha intervals that will make you want to die.

>>12215348
>>12215355
Is it possible to get into fencing without coming across as a neckbearded manchild?

>>12215347

y obama invited his african family members to live in dc.

>>12215348
> the only acceptable breakfast foods for a man are eggs, bacon

Eating chicken abortions and pig's fat doesn't make you a man. /fit/ is /shit/ if you want to live past 22. Enjoy your roids and heart failure.

drive

>>12215367
Just remembered this image, is it accurate?
I don't really trust anyone but /jp/

>>12215379
I wish I had a cute older gf that would drive me around places

How do I become a programmer without a college degree???

>>12215379
REAL HUMAN BEAN

>>12215375
Fun fact, there's zero connection between dietary cholesterol and blood cholesterol - although there is to saturated fat, so yes obviously you can take it to ridiculous extremes, and there's an unfortunate contingent of internet nerds that do that with bacon in particular.
>Hmm, if bacon is manly then surely eating enough to feed 6 people whilst doing no exercise whatsoever will basically make me a lumberjack

I've repeatedly said a *balanced* diet, but men especially really do need healthy fats and dietary cholesterol, the latter being an important precursor to testosterone.

>>12215382
About equal parts truth and bullshit. Basically if you want to resemble an ATTRACTIVE girl and not a hungry skeleton, more and heavier weight training is needed even for this goal. People are irrationally terrified of "bulking up" and just wanting to "tone" but there's no such thing, attractive curves = some muscle development and core strength is needed.

(Moreover the goal is dubious at best, a lot of trannies are unhappy and kill themselves, and part of that is that men need testosterone to feel good / have confidence / be able to socialize etc.)

>>12215386
The market's probably tougher in the US but self-study actually does count for something in this field, since the only programmers that are ever any good are the ones that spent their free time doing it for fun. Build things you can show employers, contribute to open source projects, do CodeAcademy challenges and so on. Some piece of paper would be helpful down the line but if you can find a cool employer an actual degree may not be needed, what they really want is practical experience.

>>12215395
Allright, I'll try to deadlift and squat for starters, not sure if I could really eat bacon and eggs everyday.

Thank you very much anon

>>12215403
I've worked on a few personal projects in the past, and I've spent some time over the last few years learning and familiarizing myself with as much CS and programming concepts as possible.
I have no internships or actual work experience though, how should I go about getting that?
I'm trying to work my way through college, but if something doesn't work out, I want to be able to find work and make a living.

>>12215382
It's accurate apart from the semen part, but you should be drinking lots of semen anyway, and of course it doesn't help if it's just your own

>>12215411
You need semen anon? I never run out, but you'd have to work for it.

>>12215333
There has never been so many people infected with HIV in the world as there are today. There are over 50,000 new HIV cases a year in the US. It's not that big of a problem though, because 2/3rd's of those are gays and niggers. HIV is literally a gay nigger disease. Watch out for those southeast asian hookers carrying the extra lethal CXCR4 strain though.

>>12215395
At the end of the day, leafy green vegetables like spinach have more protein that bacon does. Plus, meat is murder.

>men especially really do need healthy fats and dietary cholesterol, the latter being an important precursor to testosterone.

This has been widely debunked for the last decade. Not sure what it is that you have to gain by repeating it?

>>12215035
Get a job.

>>12215406
Good job, do it for your waifu. And don't be put off by the "DOMS" soreness the day afterwards, it quickly diminishes as you go on (it's worse at first because you're completely untrained, but this is also why you initially make fairly rapid gains.)

>>12215408
You could try getting in sideways through a poorly paid summer job type position depending on the company maybe, but I'm not a good person to ask since I've been working in the field for many years plus I'm a britbong. You could try asking /sci/ or https://dis.4chan.org/prog/ ... theoretically /g/, but it's one of the shittiest boards these days and mostly about consumer electronics fanboyism so I wouldn't hold out much hope for that one.

>>12215423
I'll keep my eyes open for any of those summer opportunities, thanks
moot killed /prog/ a while back

you guys should seriously stop bumping this shit thread

>>12215418
You seem to be be getting mad about something I didn't really say. Complete proteins, healthy fats and veggies = healthy diet, meat certainly HELPS with that especially on cost grounds but isn't actually necessary. Pic related, scooby1961, a /fit/ celebrity until some faggot doxed him, he's an aging vegetarian bodybuilder that still runs ironmans etc.

Strict vegan is really pushing it, though ... whey protein helps immensely if you're a vegetarian.

>>12215418
>meat is murder

check out this dweeb.

>>12215431
Meat actually murders people. Well the production of meat, and indirectly.
When you're burning rainforest to make way for cattle ranches, then burning more rainforest as the cattle ranches turn into dust, and then feeding the cattle with agricultural resources that could have gone to people- you're doing damage to people.

>>12215426
Is it making you depressed because it's making me depressed, too.

>>12215360

I know your feelings. My mom is a 60 year old hoarder too who puts creepy dolls on all the chairs in the house and doesn't ever shut up.

She lets me stay in my room rent-free atleast, even if she bothers me with crazy stuff every now and then. Maybe mentally I would be better off if she were gone, but for now I'm not too suicidal living with her.

>>12215431
/jp/ is a Buddhist board.