/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>12192872
Are we doing multiple threads now?

>>12192881
No, ignore the other one.

>>12192884
There really is no reason to.

>>12192889
Nah, last OP thread missed out on a ton of shit.

>>12192893
It's just the subject and a shitty pic.

>>12192896
And a link to the last thread.

>>12192893
>ton of shit
You mean non suitable pic for your taste, title, and wo, re faggorty?

>>12192900
Oh, that's true.

>>12192901
Lazy to describe it, but pretty much.

Anyone in the admiral rank?
How much rank point do one need to get that rank at the moment?

condense your shitcolle threads please

>>12192911
We will once someone deletes the other thread.

>>12192911
condense your shit-posting into your shitty little brain

>>12192910
Depends on the server.
Baidu usually has a chart showing each month's ranking and admiral points requirements.

>>12192910
Clear all EOs, guarantied Admiral till the rest of the month.

>>12192911
Sorry dad!
now please fuck off

Bad idea to attempt Taihou when I only have 13k Bauxite?

>>12192974
What do you want her for?

>>12192974
Midway is coming

>>12192984
I don't think I'll get much done in that considering I only have a handful of ships above 50

>>12192911
2hu is shit and its dead.

>>12192986
You could still get lucky. But if you don't have the resources then it's game over already.

>>12192986
How's your TTK level? you might stand a chance if there's scaling.

>>12192990
61

>>12192986
If there's no timers, you're fine.

If there are timers, cry and give up.

>>12192991
It'll be easier than for 80+ admirals

>>12192986
Do ship levels even matter? If you can't get your ships to Kai Ni, get them to Kai then fully modernize them.

Then try crafting some of the necessary equipment(Just enough for one fleet) then rotate the equipment like a pleb every time a ship needs to be repaired. Also, get all the necessary ships and junk, getting all the ships you need to Kai Ni will probably be impossible in a one month period.

If you stockpile resources and keep your ttk level under 80, it might be easy.

At least, this is what the previous Kancolle threads recommended all the <80 ttks.

>>12193030
Most of my guns are shit and I don't have any ammo yet. I've been doing 20/20/10/90 for Reppu for a while now. Time to switch it up?

anyone have a suggest for hiryuu kai ni quest , my 7x poi and shigure always get crit at preboss by BB and CA flag , what planes you put on CVs and CVL

>>12193039
I don't know what equipment do you have, but if I were you, I'd try to get at least 3 Sanshiki, just in case we get another boss weak to this ammo. In this case Sanshiki might be even more important than 46cm.

>>12193046
F5 if you hit south.

>>12193039
change ammo to 30 - higher chance

>>12193039
Yeah, get some ammo. Some of the maps might require certain equipments so try to get one of everything.

>>12193039
Who knows, do it until you have enough of whatever you need.

>>12193049
It's not like you have no chance of advancing at this node.

>>12193046
>what planes you put on CVs and CVL
1CV and CVL with Ryuseis[kai] the other CV with Suisei12A. And enough greens for air superiority.

The fact that the new torps don't trigger a cut-in is a bug, right?

>>12193068
>bug
Sorry, man.

>>12193068
No.

>>12193068
I don't understand why you'd do that. The only value torpedoes have is their cut-in ability.

Have you given your whale your tough love today?

I wonder why torpedo attacks are so shit in this game. They should be way stronger than the peashooters they are now, even more so considering that the japs had some of the best torps in the war.

>>12193090
They're not weak.

>>12193090
>why torpedo attacks are so shit

what are CLTs

>>12193093
The only ships that can use torps effectively are torpedo cruisers and subs.

>>12193094
Yeah, and they need massive torp stat to be even good. The final torp volleys suck balls because of the ammo modifier. Equipping a torp should give a massive boost to torp effectiveness like ASW equipment does.

>>12193099
This is a game, if it's as broken as real life nobody would play it.

>>12193100
What does that even mean? I'm saying the post-shelling torpedo sucks and it does, it almost always misses or does scratch damage against even a flag Ri. Bumping their power would do some good for cruisers and destroyers.

>>12193087

God damn it Asanagi.

>>12193107
>against even a flag Ri
That's normal. It's the same for the carrier's bombing.
And you would not like Abyss to crit you easily whenever you fail to sink/put in orange all of them.

>>12193107
>the post-shelling torpedo sucks and it does, it almost always misses or does scratch damage against even a flag Ri.
Do you even use subs?
That's not true at all.

>>12193112
Nope, carrier bombing can kill off a flag Ri sometimes. And that is with one slot, even a mass of torps from 5 ships can fail to do even critical damage. It's retarded.

Why the hell would I not want it? The vast majority of the time the enemy trash mobs are dead or heavily damaged by the end of the shelling.

>>12193115
>Why the hell would I not want it?
Because one day they will add maps where you won't be able to use BB and their second shelling phase (2-5 is the first step in this direction).

How many ships were sunk during ww2 by a ship torpedo attack?

>>12193113
I use a sub bait on 5-4 all the time. I know perfectly well what a sub is or is not capable of killing in one shot. Subslaving on 2-3 is a piss poor metric of the power of post-shelling torps.

>>12193121
A lot. But that's besides the point. If the game allowed realistic mechanics, nobody would field battleships.

>>12193120
Yeah, that's baseless speculation. Come back when you actually have a clear trend.

>>12193122
It works on 4-2 too.

>>12193107
I can see where you're coming from. Flags in general have a disproportionately high HP stat to go with their armor, so you're practically forced to go for overkill to take them on smoothly. Cruiser, destroyer, and pre-shelling bomber torps just can't seem to hack it.

>>12193112
>That's normal.
Normal is not necessarily fun, there are ways the game can be balanced better.
>whenever you fail to sink/put in orange all of them.
And abyss clearly don't have the same stat paradigm as kanmusu do, so I'm not sure where you're going with that reverse example.

>>12193125
>A lot

source? discount the Mikawa fleet exploits since we are talking here about the final torpedo phase during the day.

>>12193132
Real combat doesn't have phases like the game.

>>12193132
Did you miss when that anon said that was beside the point?

>>12193134

Yeah, but there is a very clear distinction bettwen day and night tactis.

>>12193135

The point is that very few ships were sunk during the day by a ship's torpedo attack. And the game reflects that.

>>12193128
>I'm not sure where you're going with that reverse example.
If they boost it for us it's going to be the same for them. See artillery spotting.

>>12193125
>realistic mechanics
Seriously, this is just a crappy browser game. Further back, this is a game. Noone cares about real-life tactics.

>>12193139
Probably still more than from the guns of BB, why isn't that reflected in the game?

>>12193125
I'm not arguing for reality, genius. I'm arguing for balanced gameplay mechanics based on reality.

Post-shelling torps can only be fired after the entire round of shelling is over. This means that they are useless for killing foes before they can damage you, which is an extremely important consideration. They also cannot be fired if the ship has received medium damage.

Even a significant boost for post-shelling torps is not going to dent the competitiveness of BBs because with artillery spotting they are incredibly overpowered and that is saying nothing about their survivability.

>>12193136
>>12193139
And you missed that anon's point. No one gives a fuck about how many ships were sunk during the day, non-CLT torps need to get stronger.

>>12193140
Logical fallacy. Just because the devs gave every ship spotting doesn't mean they can't buff torps for just kanmusu.

>>12193121
See >>12193125

>>12193107
>it almost always misses or does scratch damage against even a flag Ri
Isn't this the same for DD/CL attacks during shelling?

Japanese Naval and merchant shipping losses during WWII by all causes.

http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/Japan/IJN/JANAC-Losses/JANAC-Losses-6.html

Know who killed your shipfus.

>>12193158
So many -maru.

>>12193158
>>12193159
Ships named "England Maru" and "Brazil Maru", lol.

It'd be fun if we had transport ships to escort while keeping them undamaged.

>>12193163
Dear god, no

>>12193163
It'd be fun if they enemy ships outnumbered ours 2 to 1.

>>12193163

It would be possible if the japanese would have done something like the britissh did for their protected convoys.

But instead of doing that they let the merchant ships sail alone which made the task of the submarines so much easy. Those numbers above>>12193158
are the consequence of that stuid decision + the whole idea of using destroyers to supply the Solomons.

>>12193121
See >>12193142 and >>12193145

>>12193154
Not in the early nodes of any stage, since that's before ammo modifier starts to really hurt smaller ships. Yuudachi and CLs can do some actual damage. They still need more buffs though, and a higher torp stat is just the right thing to differentiate them from BBs or CVs.

>>12193170
>They still need

Why do they need it?

Jesus fucking christ. Is there some kind of experience calculator for Kancolle where you can see the EXP needed to level from 1-75 and such?

Then I googled "Kantai Experience calculator" and it told me that Sanae's logbook has one. Thank you, based google. Thanks for reading,my blog.

Also, the OP should put the uses of Sanae's logbook, so people might actually download it.

>>12193182

KCV has an experience calculator.

>>12193185
Guess I'll download Kancolle Viewer instead. I just never needed it.

>>12193197
logbook is better

>>12193201
It's Sanae's
Sanae a shit

>>12193226
Stay shit.
I'm using it since yesterday and I love it.

inb4 nintendrones and sonnyggers level discussio about this.

>>12193177
because underused classes are wasted pixels clogging up your cache u nigger

Show some respect for playstyles you don't have, come on.

>>12193259
>underused classes
Which are?

>>12193182
Why do you need something like that?

CL buffs when?

>>12193259

Play style? If you want play style that catters to your tastes play a real SRPG or RPG. This game is too simple to make a believable strategy in which CLs and DDs are a viable option against BBs and CVs.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love some real missions that would make DDs and CLs as fun to play with as BBs and CVs. I'm actually praying for the Vita game to be a complete revvamp of Kancolle that would make it a lasting RPG/SRPG franchise.

Just imagine:

- Shinkansen girls take the oceans in 1935 and the center of the invasion comes from the Atlantic and the Pacific.

- Story mode for the US, Japanese and European navies with collaborative missions.

- Grid map with territory control like Risk. When you attack or get attacked a unique map for eeach tyle autogenerates and you enter turn-based tactical mode like any other SRPG.

- Unlockable content like Extra missions and bosses + Shinkaisen campaign.

- Fully voiced.

- MP maps and online matches.

- tl;dr: something like Total War or Rise of Nations but fullly turn based

I'd pay all of my moneis for this even if I had to import it or were download only. Please Kadokawa, make it happen!

>>12193281
Whatever

>>12193281
But can you marry your ships in an extremely long and elaborate ritual complete with a 30-minute cut scene with a futon ending?

>>12193275
Wishful thinking - next week, along with Sendai K2. More likely option - the event after Midway, CL related with suitable route requirements.
Most likely - never.

Question to those that run 37 and 38 together.
What the hell do you do with all that steel?

>>12193300
People spend resources in this game?

I thought the whole point was to build up to 300k and then brag about it.

>>12193300
Build a throne out of it and smelt it when Musashi is announced.

>>12193300
Make 46cm.

>>12193300
It's like you don't do LSC.

>>12193300
1500/1500/7000/1000/1 crafts every other day. Most decent recipes involving steel cost ammo too, and that's my lowest resource right now. So I just dump it. Sometimes I get Maruyu.

>>12193300
How do I get thoose drums? I swear reppus are more common than them.

>>12193317
10/10/10/10 with DD.

>>12193317
All 10 with DD flag for dailies

If I get one more Yamashit out of 2-5, I swear I'll scrap my leveled one as well.

>>12193322
Who's Yamashit?

>>12193324
A kuso.

>>12193324
Musashi, obviously.

>>12193330
You don't deserve her.

>>12193322

Oh fucking wow. This game is seriously fucking with me.
Went to 2-3 to finish my 5 boss daily.
Guess what.
Sorry for blogshit

>>12193319
>>12193321
So far 50 penguins, I guess it's normal.

>>12193354
Post the scrapping process

>>12193355
Pretty much.

>>12193354
make a webm

>>12193354
Subscribed

Fucked it up, I was slow with the screenshot. And forgot to take off the 46s.

>>12193354
Serves you right.

>>12193365
>forgot to take off the 46s

Top blog content.

>>12193365
This is worth a subscription

>>12193365
Told you you didn't deserve her.

>>12193365
Reblogged

>>12193365
RNGods will consider your offering.

>>12193365

Let me share your pain, I've lost my poor Decchi just 2 minutes ago fatigue grinding on 3-2.

Fuck my life ;_;

There is a 4 koma about Fubuki say something in Russian to Verniy but she didn't understand or something. I didn't see it myself. Does it really exist?

>>12193378
Kuso. Why didn't you let her resign when she asked you before the sortie?

>>12193378
>fatigue grinding
A what?

>>12193378
Why do you have a sub while fatigue grinding?

>>12193382

I know, I'm preparing all the coffee I can make to do non stop 1-5 and find her again.

>>12193382
He told her that it would be her last sortie.

>>12193384
Brain problems

>>12193383
Not that guy, but this.
I'm rarely using a sub though

>>12193387
And it was Kuso

>>12193387
That fucking death flag.

>>12193381

>>12193394
>>12193387

Stop making me feel even sadder than I'm am ;_;

I just lost my Imuya from doing slave runs, it hurts.

>>12193400
>>12193378
>>12193365
Some people just aren't fit to be admirals
Please just scuttle yourself

>>12193395
Thanks!

I really really hope they would change Hibiki's voice actor to Uesaka Sumire in the future if possible.

>>12193412
>change Hibiki's voice actor to Uesaka Sumire in the future if possible
That's criminal.

>>12193412
>I really really hope they would change Hibiki's voice actor to Uesaka Sumire in the future if possible.
Off to gulag

>>12193400
>>12193403

Seriously, how to lost your ship even from slaving? The ship will only sink if you force her to go one more round when severely damaged.

>>12193432

a fatal distraction.

>>12193432
Slaving is a boring job, mate. Sometimes you just zone out.

That's why I don't do it anymore.

>>12193316
Try radar recipes.

>>12193281
> something like Total War or Rise of Nations but fullly turn based
If you want naval sim just play War in the Pacific(admiral's edition), you can change ship images to shipgirl images quite easily(they are stored as .jpgs in guts of the game) and it will satisfy even the most autistic urges.
Few things feel as good as winning Solomons and Leyte Gulf as IJN. Very few.

>>12193464
Is it on Steam?

Also as an aside I totally missed out on the Rise of Nations preorder discount and I'm a bit miffed that I'll have to wait til summer sale to maybe get it.

>>12193468
> Is it on Steam?
I don't know, I've never used Steam. Make sure you read the manual carefully if you're going to play it, it has dorf fortress tier interface.

>http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=15814
wow, they really wanna milk every cent out of that franchise as soon as possible
how bad will it gonna be?

Ooo, this is really nice https://twitter.com/tyapaou_/status/477416307814432770

>>12193480
It's going to save anime and Japan's ailing economy at the same time.

The moment this is released, Japan and the U.S will join hands and be free of all their debt, revolutions will sweep across the world in the name of democracy and freedom, 3 billion men will be simultaneously jack off into the ocean in honor of the Chinese cartoon that brought world peace.

It'll be the greatest thing since sliced bread and onaholes.

>>12193480
Thoose tags made me laugh

>>12193482
>short hair
No thanks.

>>12193490
>hating on short hair.

>>12193488
I can already see hundreds of weebs on boats furiously masturbaiting above where Yamato wreck lies.

Possibilities are endless!

>>12193492
Yes, I don't like short hair. So?

>>12193488
will it gonna be a pinnacle of animation and entertainment like the adaptations of other great non-adventure games like Escha and Blade&Soul?

>>12193495
Absolutely nothing. You can have your own opinions.

>>12193492
Who is the best destroyer, and why is it Yuudachi? She looks even cuter with short hair.

>>12193480
>game explodes in popularity
>anime adaptation decided

why are you surprised? at least they hired an actual staff..

>>12193504
flappy bird anime when?

>>12193494
> above where Yamato wreck lies.
They will rise her from the grave and rebuild her anew.

>>12193504
I wonder how much they paid for the director

>>12193507
as soon as kadokawa or scamplex buy it

>>12193508
Glueing parts with semen

I finally got through the RNG of 4-3 and beat the boss B-rank.
Do you use 15.5 secondary in the third slot on CA and Kongou class?

>>12193515
Read the wiki

>>12193515
Not anymore. 2 red guns are much better.

>>12193511
Experienced anime staff can actually be relatively expensive, albeit there's a possibility they paid more for Hanada than for Kusakawa (you know, more experience and all).

>>12193508
It'll be an anime miracle type of thing. Like where the power of love and the essence of life combine to anthropomorpize long sunken ships.

Then all they need is an enemy,which is pretty fucking easy. The Chinese are building up a fleet, and they're basically the generic villains of the world right now. Bullying other Asian countries with their massive numbers and looking like clones of each other. Also, they could try to get their islands back from Russia or something.

>>12193518
So 2red/radar/seaplane on BB and CA?

>>12193522
You're incredibly short-minded.
>>12193524
Yeah.

>>12193524
2 red + seaplane + something else. Can be turbine, another seaplane, radar, AP ammo, sanshiki. Except for 15.5 yellows, they're useless now, except on night battle heavy nodes.

Damn, I already have 4 of you, where is your sister? WHERE IS MY DECCHI?!

>>12193547
The subs currently in the game aren't sisters.

>>12193547
>Sister
Decchi is not.

>>12193528
Are the 15.2 red guns worth using?

>>12193549
I wouldn't want a son with a sub flagship either.

>>12193554
Nope.

>>12193554
Not at all. I don't even know why them made them holo

>>12193554
Yep.

>>12193568
>holo
Since when?

>>12193575

>>12193582
Sorry, I don't have any idea what this means.

>>12193354
>>12193365
And it's not even the bossnode

>>12193554
I personally think the gain of accuracy is noticeable at some point, and using 20.3cm on CL isn't a good idea, as stated by the devs

>>12193575
they always have been holo when Agano and Noshiro were introduced back in fall.

>>12193585
The katakana for their rarity says ホロ which means holo.

>>12193588
15.5 reds are still better.

>>12193590
>The katakana for their rarity says ホロ which means holo.
Thanks.
But it's weird, because the card isn't.

>>12193588
>and using 20.3cm on CL isn't a good idea, as stated by the devs
Why nerf an already weak ship type? Then again, considering that they nerfed the wrong part of 5-4, I shouldn't be surprised.

>>12193588
>and using 20.3cm on CL isn't a good idea, as stated by the devs
I remember they said that, but has anyone done extensive testing about this?

Why can you skip the last minute or so in nearly everything else except for ship construction?

>>12193623

a bug

>>12193623
To underscore that fact that you are here forever.

So I'm running 2-2 with 6 DDs to knock out the transport daily, and at the same time reading all the arguing about the shittiness of post-shelling torpedo attacks earlier in the thread, and what happens? I end up with Kagerou getting critted to red by a normal Chi at first node.

>>12193594
Seems like an oversight then, with that image that should be classified a rare レア

Not that it really means anything, especially with stuff that isn't built.

>>12193674
My CA(V)s kept getting critted to red by enemy ships in 2-5's first node on the northern path, which was why I stopped going north in the first place.

>>12193685
>>12193674
I tried Northern path for two straight days, and my conclusion is that it's just easy to get critted to red. I won't do ADHL path again. BEHL is far better in my opinion.

>>12193685
Oh, and did I forget to mention it was always because of the torps? Yeah, always the damn torps.

>>12193710
The torps hurt like a bitch. Mogami tends to eat the torp and then there goes another bucket...

>>12193685
>>12193710
Fortunately I didn't suffer that while running it to clear the Myoukou quest, but that was only 4 runs worth.

South first node can still be shitty though using 2CA 2DD 2CVL, especially if my torpedo bombers whiff a bunch. Gold CL and red CA crits in shelling phase, plus at least one time I got torpedoed by a surviving gold CL. At least the gold CVL fleet only has the one ship with any chance of critting you.

Anyone from Tawi Tawi getting unstable connections? Both my PC and Kancolle Tablet keep getting error-ko after the Game Start screen without fail. Both are using the Cookie Region trick on Zharay's KCV 2.6.0 rev 461.

p.s. Where did Zharay go? Did he fall off the face of the earth?

>>12193727

afaik he rushed the spring event, sunk his Kitakami, got depressed and has never been hear of ever since.

>>12193727

Brunei here, I've been dc'ing pretty often for a while now, maybe it's on my side since there are times my internet goes off for a few moments, it's not as often as my dc's on kancolle, though.

>>12193736
>Sunk his Kitakami
That's not really a crushing loss...

>>12193741
what if his KTKM is level 98 and he was thinking of marrying her after the event, but she was sunk by an enemy fleet before he can, and now he fell into depression because he just lost his lover.
who the heck knows.

>>12193741
Just how kuso can you be?

>>12193588
>>12193594
>>12193598
Do any of you have links to the dev stating that 20.3cm is bad for CL?

>>12193741
That's a pretty kuso attitude, but you do have a point. Ever since that event and the addition of daytime double attack (and recon requirements), my CLTs have barely even been touched, CAs and CAVs have taken their place. I tried using KTKM on 2-5 north route when I was doing the Myoukou quest, but ended up failing the recon check and went with another CA instead.

You've got to be kidding me. You are even rarer! WHERE IS MY DECCHI? ;_;

>>12193785

You'll be swimming in subs, just do your stuff and they'll come.

>>12193785
Goya's as rare as Iku, actually.

>>12193789
Oh, you.

>>12193789

But I want to revive my Decchi ;_;

>>12193791

>But I want to revive my Decchi ;_;

Oh, I see you're a kuso, then I hope you never get her.

>>12193794

I seriousl hope you'll never have to look back and regret your cruelty.

>>12193801
Just like you are?

>>12193804

I didn't want her to be sunk ;_;

I can't believe I got her before Urakaze.

>>12193807
Serves you right for using slaving her at 3-2.

>>12193819

;_;

>>12193818
I got Ypakaze but still no Moby Dick.

So whats the most efficient way of whaling?

I noticed that getting to the boss node in 5-2 is a lot easier but the ammo cost is insane.

And on the other side, 2-5 uses a lot less resources but getting to the boss node is horrible because of the BB node/Night battle node.

Cant believe those CAs are actually equipped for double attack.

>>12193830
git gud.

>>12193830
I'm using 2DD 2CAV 1CLT and 1CVL. Only two nodes before boss battle, second node causes mid-level retreats because of the Ru-class, but it's still better than spending a lot of resources while using BBs and going through 3 nodes before boss.

>>12193830
Got mine from 5-2. The ammo cost is insane but I was leveling my Hiryuu so I guess it's okay.

>>12193834
>git gud
with the RNG? I'd sleep with the RNG if that helps.

>>12193853

I laughed more than what I should

>>12193853
You don't want to fuck with lady luck

>>12193860
Good one.

>>12193853
>>12193860
She's still too young to do that.
Doesn't have fat at the right places, yet.

>>12193830
I'm using 2 DD 2 CA(V) 2 CVL in 2-5, works fine so far except for the crits my DDs (and CVLs; CA(V)s don't seem to get crit to red as frequently for some reason) take half the time or so.

If you can consistently S-rank 5-2 boss, then by all means go there, but 2-5 has worked for me so far.

>>12193588
>>12193595
>>12193598
>>12193761

Devs never said equipping 20.3cm is - bad - for CLs. What they said is CLs cannot utilize 20.3cm to its full potential compared to CAs that can. What that means is CAs will receive bonus when using 20.3cm while CLs don't, not CLs receiving a penalty.

The bonus mentioned above is CAs with 20.3cm will get an 8~10% accuracy boost in night battle. CLs don't get that and will use them just like any other guns without any negative effect. This has already been tested and proven by Japanese players on wikiwiki.

Again, CLs do NOT get penalized for using 20.3cm.

>>12193904
>
The bonus mentioned above is CAs with 20.3cm will get an 8~10% accuracy boost in night battle. CLs don't get that and will use them just like any other guns without any negative effect. This has already been tested and proven by Japanese players on wikiwiki.

any link that actually shows that statement?

>>12193904
Most interesting.

Will CLs get any accuracy bonus from equipping red (or yellow) 15.2s or 15.5s? That's not listed on the gun itself, that is.

>>12193928
Don't use yellow 15.2cms. Settle for nothing less that 15.5cm.

>>12193944
I'm asking whether CLs get any accuracy bonus from any of these equipment, the fact that yellow 15.2s suck notwithstanding.

Every time I do an expedition that needs barrels 21, 37, 28 whenever I leave it for an extra hour or so after it finishes it always comes back as 'Great Success'. The fleet isn't sparkled and has the minimum amount of barrels. Has anyone noticed this? It happened 20/20 times already but maybe it's just RNG being RNG.

>>12193904
>The bonus mentioned above is CAs with 20.3cm will get an 8~10% accuracy boost in night battle.

Need a citation for this so hard. Also needs additional testing with no.3s and no.2s.

>>12193904
Full potential doesn't mean "gain bonus". That's a far fetched interpretation you have there.

unless you can provide solid evidence such as source, you aren't any more believable than the guy claiming 12.2 are better.

I was under the impression that there were posts talking about making it so CL's would not want to use 20.3's, but that such plans have not been implemented. I would keep the holo CL guns in inventory, but I don't see any reason to use them over 20.3's at the moment.

>>12193997
As far as I can remember and from what I understood, they plan to implement it sometime. For now though I find 20.3cm more effective than the regular CL caliber guns as the 20.3s deal more damage especially in double shelling.

ALL YOU KUSO TTKS

THE SHIPS YOU'VE ACCIDENTALLY SUNK

NAME THEM

>>12194058
Kaga, Akagi, Taihou.

>>12194058

>>12194058
Kuma when I was just starting and had no idea what I was doing

>>12194058
Same as >>12194081 except it's Kasumi.

>>12194058
Kitakami Kai-1 and Yuubari in the same battle, Kirishima. Have been accident-free since November after staring in August.

Shimakaze intentionally, as well as a few sacrificial DDs.

>>12194065
>Taihou
u wot m8

>>12194058
Shimakaze twice, Yukikaze once, Hibiki once, Bep twice, Shigure once. Good thing they all had damecon! Otherwise nope, no ships sunk.

>>12194058

>>12194065
What? You've got to be fucking with me. How do you sink not one, but THREE carriers? And two that are relatively rare at that.

>>12194111
Akari pls.

>>12194058
Iku... When she was still event-only

>>12194058
Wo.

>>12194058
Inazuma, during those times when some even thought the first few maps were sink-free. Then, Arpeggio Takao because I misclicked.

>>12194164
>sinking fog ships
>not doing pic related on misclicking

>>12194167
The admiralty properly mailed the core back home, so it's fine.

>>12194058
Houshou
I'm the shittiest TTK and will never manage to remove this title.

>>12194167
>greentexting
Anyway I have to admit I assumed it's too late to F5 when advancing till I found out it's okay so long as one haven't picked a formation. Only thing I regret about her sinking was the Type 14 she took down with her. Oh well.

>>12194168
You don't have to follow the anime this religiously, you know.

>>12194173
>Only thing I regret about her sinking was the Type 14 she took down with her.
Now that is kuso.

>>12194058
A lvl 4 goya and some cannon fodder DDs why doing 1-1 sparkle run.

>>12194175
I got the core back so it's okay.
And I like HARUNA more and that's where I really took great care when using her

>>12194173
I remember you.

>>12194192
Good lord, that was my fleet. Did you just dig it up in the archives or somebody did save that?

>>12194196
I dug it up. I actually remembered you losing the radar more than Takao.

One day I'll make it all the way to the end, but not today.

>>12194210
It's because you're using useless destroyers.

>>12194206
Ah yeah that, using reasons like she's not permanent unlike the Type 14. Oh well, it did hit me hard that I lost her, but losing the Type 14 hit me harder since they're so damn rare.

>>12194217
Wow, I couldn't have figured that out myself. You have opened my eyes to a whole new way of playing Kancolle.

>>12194179
My HARUNA was like lvl 80 when the event finished. I really loved her. Meanwhile, my Daijoubu is level 99 waiting for her Kai2 and to be married.

>>12193904
>Devs never said equipping 20.3cm is - bad - for CLs. What they said is CLs cannot utilize 20.3cm to its full potential compared to CAs that can. What that means is CAs will receive bonus when using 20.3cm while CLs don't, not CLs receiving a penalty.
Wait, they implemented it already? I thought they were still on the drawing board for it.

>>12193921
>>12193958
>>12193979

It was mentioned in Febri vol.20's interview section. Here's a summary of things that were mentioned in it:
http://akankore.doorblog.jp/archives/34779935.html

Among those things, Tanaka (producer) said:
田中「軽巡に20は(主砲の)本来の力が発揮できない」


General discussion regarding "CA + 20.3cm"'s effect can be found right under the 20.3cm page's comment section on wikiwiki. If you google the keywords a whole bunch of results will pop up as well.

Now, take these with a grain of salt if you must, but I'm just gonna point towards the more detailed comments and reports.

For CAs + 20.3cm testing report, you can refer to the chart in this entry:
http://kancollekai.blog.jp/archives/2634251.html

CAs have a clear increase in accuracy whenever equipped with 20.3cm (single red + yellow or dual red) when compared to equipping only 15.5cm yellow according to the log.

Next is the CLs:

>>12193928
>>12193952

Comments regarding whether CL receives a "penalty" for using 20.3cm:
http://kancole.doorblog.jp/archives/36985051.html

The general consensus is that there isn't a clear conclusion on whether 20.3cm or 15.5cm is better for CL:
"検証の結果実際は重巡に２０砲でメリット、軽巡に20砲はデメリットが確認されなかったはず "

Not directly related to dev's CL/20.3cm comment, but someone had coincidentally conducted a test on CLs using 20.3cm vs 15.5cm red. Refer to entry no.85 in this thread:
http://www.wikidayo.info/contents.php?ita=gameswf&id=1387811717_1.html

The link to his log is already broken, but based on his comment it doesn't seem like there's any major advantage of using either gun over the other. Slight damage vs slight accuracy/evasion(?)

I haven't seen any extensive testing reports on 20.3cm vs 15.5cm yellow though. I'd imagine 15.5cm yellow would out perform a normal 20.3cm anyway base on stats alone.

No comments regarding Mikuma cannon or Haguro cannon.

>>12194058
Musashi.

I KNOW. STOP IT.

>>12194249
oh boy.
I hope you committed sudoku afterwards

>>12194249
I have no words anon. Please tell me she sinks in an event map during the final hour before the event ends not some EO map where you could take it easy and retreat on red.

>>12194058
yubari, takao, kaga and some dd's i don't remember.

>>12194257
E5. Because internet.

>>12194249
>Musashi
So why are you still playing? I would have quit ages ago.

>>12194273
It's okay. I picked myself up already after a few days of not playing.

I still remember the guy who almost lost his Musashi (or did he lose her?) because someone hacked into his account. People really are cunts.

I cannot sink any ships because I already quit. Fear my flawless service record.

>>12194363
Abrar; his Musashi was spared only because she was low level and the hacker overlooked it.

>>12194381
Wait, Abrar's account got hacked again?

>>12194381
Then what has he to be worried about? You get Akagi back nowadays pretty easily through the magic of LSC and so forth...

>>12194381
Wait, it was Abrar again? It wasn't related to API links.

>>12194381
That's not Abrar.

>>12194384
>>12194385
>>12194389
>>12194390
Ugh, wrong guy.

>>12194393
I think it was some guy who uses a Korean VPN to play the game. Or was it the guy who plays it in a cybercafe.

Just crafted a 10th Reppu. Maybe I'll be ready for Midway now?

>>12194421
One more.

Wait, I didn't realise it until now, but when did they fix that weird delay that the torpedoes' damage animation had from Spring event?

>>12194421
Strange, I crafted my 10th Reppu less than 20 minutes ago.

>>12194421
Try 12. Should be enough.

>>12194435
Must be more proof of the time-based RNG.

>>12194058
a kiso before her Kai Ni was announced, I can't look at my current one in the eyes...

>>12194443
11 is enough if you have a Reppu Kai.

>>12194058

A Goya just yesterday. I've already bured 25 buckets and 2,5k fuel searching for her in 1-5

Please, come back, I'm lonely ;_;

HA! FINALLY!

I can now stockpile for Midway.

>>12194511
How many times did it take, anon? And where did you get her?

>>12194511
2-5?

>>12194511
No star over her eyes?

>>12194515
>>12194517

Fucking 2-5 once a day to save baux

4 BB 2 CV

I plan to get another one.

>>12194530
I used to roll with that kind of setup. Switched over to 2xCA 2xDD 1xCLT 1xCVL since it got too rich for my blood...

>>12194522
Not him, but the star ruins the image for me.

>>12194540
Wow get the fuck out.

>>12194554
You like the stars, I don't. What's wrong with that?

Do you think they'll give us a new game mechanic for the upcoming event, like they did last time introducing day time cut-ins and double attacks?
If so what could it be?
As of now one of the most useless items are AA guns, maybe force us to use them somehow.

Whoever said slow BBs are good because they can equip AP ammo and so can do special attacks more often in the day deserves to be shot.

Not only do they do double attacks less frequently without the AP ammo, every single time they cut-in all they do is scratch damage. All the fucking time.

I'm considering scrapping all my AP ammo now.

>>12194570
All the AA guns in the game were historically total shit except maybe possibly that nice German one. If we ever get captured 40mm or copied 40mms those might be worth using, but not before that.

>>12194570
Each event introduces some form of gimmick. Fall was night battle -> day battle, Spring is artillery spotting. Not sure about Midway though, could be anything. If there's any pattern to it, all these gimmicks puts some neglected aspects of the game into the limelight so AA guns have a potential.

>>12194573

I don't know what are you doing, but you're doing it terribly wrong, I use double 46cm, AP and recon on my slow BBs and on fast BB I replace the AP for a 15.5cm, it's rare when they do a cut-in or double attack and don't kill whatever they hit.

>>12194573

Your BB just suck at giving damage

scrap them instead

>>12194578
maybe long range carrier vs carrier battle. Your surface ships (BB's, CA's etc) will just gonna protect your carrier from planes. No surface engagement, shelling or torpedo phase.

>>12194579
>fast BB
>15.5cm
What the hell are you doing? Equip a sanshiki or radar or another recon plane or something. Anything that's actually useful on a BB. Even another red gun is better.

I'm using the exact same setup you're using on my slow BBs and all they do is scratch when they cut-in. And it's not just my BBs; every single ship of mine either does scratch (often) or little over normal damage whenever they cut-in. And they do scratch at least half the time. If I'm lucky.

>>12194583
Nope, they do just fine with double attacks.

>>12194590

Right now I'm just grinding exp so I don't really need the sanshiki, the radar won't give a mixed set-up so a 15.5cm, it works great for me.

>>12194593
If a mixed set-up works for you, then well, good for you, because it has never worked for me.

why the fuck do i play this game

>>12194598
You don't really play it... rather, the RNG plays you.

>>12194598
Because you hate yourself.

>>12194599
just like a secret M.

How the fuck do you even farm 2-5 without spending a million buckets?

Have you started leveling your Ayanami and Sendai yet?

Ranking rewards are out
Top 500 got
Zuiun mk12/type 22 radar kai

>>12194618

15 and 75, I think I'll take it easy on Ayanami until I see her new art/stats, I'll level my Haguro an Chikuma in the mean time.

>>12194620
Also I ranked 101, hurray for exams

>>12194618
My Sendai has been level 72 for a while, Ayanami is joining PVP practice these days and is 27 right now.

>>12194620
>type 22 radar kai
My goodness. 46cm kai when?

>>12194659
Yamato class Kai 2. Needs blueprint.

>>12194668
>>12194659
>Yamato Kai 2
Wouldn't you get 51cm instead?

>>12194618

I'm still working on Tone and Chikuma lately, and I don't have room to spare in PvPs. She can wait for a bit as I have all the EliteDDs ready for all-purpose sub hunting.

>>12194668
I need my Nagato-class Kai2 fix first.

>>12194673
I feel like you right now. Been working on Tone, Haguro and Hiryuu.

>>12194670
That's what A-150, Kii-class are for. LSC only, you need 1 blueprint to have a chance at creating them, 5% to get one.
Yamato's design shares very few similarities with A-150. B-65 on the other hand is simply a downscaled Yamato.

>>12194676

Yeah I'm leveling Hiryuu too to at least 90. Now that you mentioned it, I have to get those ugly Myouko-class too.

>>12194618
Ayanami is still unremodelled (level 17), Sendai is level 38, Haguro is level 39, Tone and Chikuma are level 61 and level 57 respectively, Ryuujou is level 58. And Hiryuu? Level 22.

I'm lagging behind. ;_;

>>12194620
Isn't this the same as last month? Wow.

>>12194618
Wont even bother leveling them. I have no use for them anyway, the only reason for leveling them will be for the entry in the library and the card.

Already have all slots filled except for CVLs and have to level Chiyoda and Chitose for CVL stuff so no time either.

>>12194683
They've been churning out a lot k2's to keep us occupied. Well I'll take it over more ships in LSC hell.

I just realized that I've never seen a married Shimakaze.

>>12194697
I plan to marry mine, almost to level 60 now

>>12194697
Blade married his.

>>12194697
I married my Shimakaze.

Are your carriers ready for Midway?

>>12194711
Not really. I don't have high lvl CVs. Kaga is Lvl73, Akagi at 61, Hiryuu 52, Soryuu 48, Chiyoda 74, Chitose 69, Taihou 63. CarDiv5 in their 40s.

>>12194711
Sort of save for Soryuu.

>>12194719
I would run my CVs more for sure and switchover to exp6. I've been running exp2 since whaling sucks out all of my buckets...

>>12194711
All of them are, except maybe Souryuu, she's sitting at level 65.

>>12194711
Taihou : 120
Ikkousen : 96/95
Nikkousen : 70/77
Gokkousen : 80:85
RJ : 75
ChitoChiyo : 85/50

Planes are Ready too, enough for supports and main - save for 12A, only got 5.

Are CLTs critmagnets for everyone or is that just me? If they're being attacked by flagship Wo or battleships that they'll be crit to red. This goes both for Kitakami(88) and Ooi(97).

>>12194711

I wish Shoukaku will drop in Midway ;_;

>>12194711
Taihou Lv 115, Kaga Lv 94, Zuikaku Lv 88, Akagi Lv75, Shoukaku Lv 74, Hiryuu Lv 31 and Soryuu Lv 2.

Zuihoe is my only light carrier and she's level 83. Am I going to be okay?

>>12194711
Kaga lv 62, Taihou lv 70, Akagi lv 55. My carriers are prepared to get raped at Midway.

>>12194711
Kind of fucked as I neglect Soryuu and other CVLs. Otherwise, I've no problems regarding planes.

>>12194746
Did you equip them with 10cms? They also have high evasion to make up for their paper-thin armor and HP.

>>12194711
Meh.

>>12194755
shouldn't you stick yellow 15.5cms on them?

>>12194755
20cm(Nr.3), 10cm and midget submarine.

>>12194759

Shooting down Wo's planes should be your priority, and you don't need extra firepower for devastating opening torp.

>>12194756
We're kind of similar.

>>12194763
That reminds me. Does the yellow 15.5 do that animation of downing enemy planes?

>>12194719

>>12194711
need to level up the Crane Sisters and the CVLs.

So its not really worth to grind ~100 top ranking looking at this rewards when Midway is coming in around a 1.5 month. Maybe its better to stop and just take ~500 place?

Everyone posting their carrier fleet has got me thinking, where are the cranefags?
They were quite vocal in discussion regarding Kaga vs CarDiv 5 (which now continued with Taihou).

Do they already disappeared from Kancolle or just moved to another bandwagon?

This happened in red T. ALL that damage to my fleet happened in closing salvo. This is to the guy who wants further torp buffs.

>>12194786
I'm a cranefag, but I my Kaga/Akagi are higher levelled simply because I got them earlier on.

>>12194787
Torp buffs would make Re-chan even stronger, it's a good change.

>>12194711
Am I fucked?

>>12194786
I'm a cranefag even though I got them leveled evenly, except for the dragons which were neglected before.

>>12194058
If repair team sinks count, Kako twice (Fall E4, E5) and Kisaragi once (Fall E4).

They're both sitting comfortably at level 95 now.

>>12194800
forgot.

I try to level them equally.

Do the searchlight anti cut-in effects stack?

Taihou: 92
ChitoChiyo: 77/78

>>12194711
No Taihou club reporting in. Leveling Chiyo.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm23586243

Can someone explain this leveling method? Chosen-ship-to-level as flagship and the rest are light carrier?

Since when Yubari drops at 4-2 boss?

>>12194826
Abuse the new system, it allows CA/CAV/BB to net the mvp every single time.

>>12194839
>Every single time
Because it triggers 100% of the time right

>>12194711
Of course

>>12194826
Yamato doesn't get fatigue and can keep getting the MVP, while the CVLs don't care about fatigue, as far as the opening is concerned.

I'm working on leveling Taihou at the moment after getting her two weeks ago.

>>12194844
Yamato class is strong enough to get MVP without triggering it, but that's how it's supposed to work. Go complain to the maker of the vid.

>>12194826
Looks like standard 3-2 grinding, but with CVLs doing jack shit and subs tanking all damage?

>>12194838
Since always

>>12194856
>jack shit
At least they cleared out some enemies in the opening phase.

>>12194863
Significantly less so compared to the all blue planes method.

>>12194826
Just listen to the commentary.

>>12194826

I can't wait for the next event to try the Gundam method

>>12194826
I wonder if you can use this for CV leveling.

>>12194826
That's a pretty brutal CVL fleet

Anyone getting good results with 3 CLT 2CV 1 CVL on 5-2? I'm not sure if I'm just unlucky or that fleet is just not good there

>>12194711
I'm not ready. Still no Taihou no Shoukaku

>>12194711
Actually, how good/bad is this?

>>12194931
>3CLT
So how many time those 3 decided it's a good idea to just torp the DD at the bottom slot and ignore the BBs?
At least bring 1 BB or something.

So urakaze drops on 2-4, 2-5 and 4-2 boss nodes?

>>12194711
I hate CVLs.

>>12194936
Pretty good, although CVL is a bit lacking.

>>12194945
Is it really that hard to look up?

>>12194994
I checked on wikiwiki, and was surprised, that's why I asked

>>12194996
Because asking on /jp/ is a surefire way of getting reliable information

>>12195001
Looking for more sources is bad in what way? Come the fuck on.

>>12195009
/jp/ isn't google.

>>12195026
googledrones pls go away.

>>12195029
shitposter pls go.

>>12195029
>>12195030
Both of you.

whale butt.

>>12194891
The Unicorn BGM thing?

>>12195038
Go to sleep, Kaga.
You already refused to do night battle with me. ;_;

>>12195043
Ok.

>>12194826
Why are the CVLs equipped with yellow guns?

Under what conditions does your secretary say the hourly notification lines? I've had the hour tick over on the main screen many times and haven't heard anything at all.

>>12195046
So that they attack earlier (than DD).

>>12195047
you sure you got them enabled?

>>12195050
That could be it, I'm fairly certain I haven't turned anything off though. Here's what my options menu looks like, if it helps.