/jp/ - Otaku Culture

saegrimr cemented this, and aoc is a passive retard who won't reverse it

who cares? the board has been dead for years

Futaba manages fine with generals. Are you implying /jp/ has a bad community that can't handle it?

>>12196866
lol aoc isn't even a janitor now
are you drunk dude

>>12196871
Generals are a concept that comes from /a/, /v/ and /co/ and were brought to /jp/ by crossboarders. They must be purged. moot agreed, don't bother him.

>>12196872

No, he's a mod

>>12196866
How could a janitor reverse it anyway? It's not like they can delete the generals and hope that people understand that means that things need to be more decentralized from now on. It would be interpreted as "kancolle/idols/whatever is not welcome now"

Best fix would be for more people to make threads about the same topic outside the generals and phase them out slowly, like in /a/ around 2011(?) when they basically got rid of most long running chained threads for some time.

>>12196890
>"kancolle/idols/whatever is not welcome now"
That wouldn't be a bad thing.

I wonder where Nullshite fits into all of this?

>>12196890

/jp/ (and all of the boards) have been getting shaped by their janitors'/mods' desires since it has existed. Please don't pretend to be ignorant when you did this yourself, deleting topics you disliked and babysitting ones you didn't, regardless of the board's wishes.

>>12196894
Because we need more 2hu /c/ imagedump threads instead, right?

So make a thread about something else, you gigantic fucking tool. Every week somebody runs into the VN General thread, whines up a storm about how each VN could have its own thread, and then doesn't make any threads for individual VNs.

>That wouldn't be a bad thing.
final destination no mods 2hu only

>>12196890

>It's not like they can delete the generals

>>12196871
>are you implying /jp/ has a bad community
/jp/ is a fucking horrid community.

>>12196895
>/jp/ (and all of the boards) have been getting shaped by their janitors'/mods' desires since it has existed.
I mean you can really see the influence of SA on moot and a lot of other people. Just overbearing people who only can get a rise out of runing someone's good time.

>>12196894
Making an already slow board slower wouldn't benefit anyone.

>>12196895
Personal interests don't really affect decisions, but it's easy for things to look that way since there's no way to communicate and explain that even if you hate a thread it deserves a place and the same protection that every other topic gets from derailment shitposting.

>>12196902
>not like they can delete the generals [and have them interpret the intention behind it]
People freaked the fuck out and for good reason when NEET threads started being deleted. No public post, no communication, no explanation whatsoever. Did they want us to make NEET threads decentralized or get rid of them entirely?
That's my point, unless it's moot showing up himself any policy change is open to misinterpretation and therefore avoided.

>>12196884
No, he isn't, moot completely ignores AoC and he never trusted him, ever
AoC lost his only chance of possibly becoming a mod when he quit the first time

>>12196902

The story behind this is really just disgusting if you followed it

Basically the janitor, who we now know to be Saegrimr, /a/ offboarder, kigurumi retard, EOP and all-around massive joke, decided that he didn't like NEET threads and started deleting them for 'bringing in crossboarders' (when Kancolle generals existed at this time)

That was the entirety of it. The mods didn't even know he was doing it until they were told, and they just said 'oh well' and let him keep doing it despite there being no justification in the rules and despite the entire board being vehemently against it

>>12196909
Some people's good times ruin other people's good times.

>>12196915

When are you going to delete this entire thread and ban everyone within for the mod sass rule you probably asked them to add?

>>12196923
You retard, thread bans have been a thing for a ridiculously long time.

>>12196926

Are you dumb? This has nothing to do with my post.

>>12196918
> decided that he didn't like NEET threads and started deleting them for 'bringing in crossboarders' (when Kancolle generals existed at this time)
They'd been retarded shitposter magnets for three years straight.

>despite the entire board being vehemently against it
Yeah, no. Those threads were shit. Get a fucking blog, you shitter.

>>12196929
Yes, I misread what you've said.

>>12196923
Global rule 8 has always been a thing, it's not like it's a new "move along civilian, protests in the free speech zone only" measure. Shit, with /q/ gone it's closer to "please send a letter to your congressman and/or representative who will read it and promptly ignore it. Please disperse!"

I guess any moment now.

>>12196920
I guess? I dunno it's hard to not just call the problem over moderation when you get random ban evasion bans.

I don't think that picture of Kanata eating a burger really spoiled anyone's day.

Because everything else gets deleted. The staff dictates content now, not the users.

>>12196920

Yeah, NEET threads and loli were really 'ruining the time' of normie shitheads from places like Reddit.

When are you going to put your capcode on? This reminds me of that janitor in /q/ who constantly posted without a capcode in support of janitors for like 75% of /q/'s existence, then got outed as a janitor later.

>>12196939
>Yeah, NEET threads and loli were really 'ruining the time' of normie shitheads from places like Reddit.
You blogging about your breakfast and the girl down the street you'd to fuck is ruining the time of everybody who doesn't want to put up with your stupid blogging shit.

/jp/ is not your blog. Fuck. Off.

>>12196934

>Global rule 8 has always been a thing

No, it literally has not. Are your mental illnesses keeping you from remembering that the mod sass rule was recently added? Like some months ago?

Also great job admitting that you're a moderator, not that we didn't already know.

>>12196934
I feel like /q/ only got nuked because it was too easy to go on there and call the "This is like my house" metaphor bullshit. It's been bullshit since dial-up BBS days and it's bullshit now.

>>12196937
/jp/ had been shit for years and year and years before they started handing out ban evasion bans like candy.

>>12196934

https://www.4chan.org/feedback

>>12196943

All you have to do if you don't want to see NEET threads is hide them. This is not /v/ or /a/ or wherever you come from, where front page space is precious. There are threads on page five right now, not even page ten, which are days old and have no replies.

NEET threads were banned because of the trend of militant normyism the mods are pushing to make the site more friendly for retards who'll buy Passes. You can even see people getting banned for 'flaming' others now.

>>12196951

It goes right into a shredder. Just like emailing moot, nothing will ever come of your 'feedback' and you'll never be replied to.

>>12196945
>8. Complaining about 4chan (its policies, moderation, etc.) on the imageboards can result in post deletion and banishment. The administration will address your questions, comments, complaints, and concerns via the Feedback page.

>12. Impersonating the 4chan administrator, moderators, or janitors is strictly forbidden.

Don't see what you're saying. It's been that way since 2010 at the very least.

>>12196951
5 answers in like 6 months. Not the best venue. Not that /q/ was any better anyway...

>>12196954
>All you have to do if you don't want to see NEET threads is hide them.
The same is true for Kancolle threads and convention threads and suck-my-dick threads and homosexual roleplaying threads and whatever the fuck else you can think of.

>NEET threads were banned because
they were total fucking shit.

>>12196950
Yeah but it's not like suddenly Frank Castle's family got killed and he became the Punisher, he was doing the same shit in Vietnam. In the same way Mods have always been shit.

>>12196960

>It's been that way since 2010 at the very least.

No, it literally has not. Rule 8 was implemented in late 2013 or early 2014.

>>12196964
Mods do retarded shit all the time but they're not the reason /jp/ went to shit. Which happened way, way the fuck before mid-2013 when NEET threads finally got the axe.

/jp/ would be 900% better if all the people who were pushed away to spin offs were let back in to mingle.

>>12196973
/jp/ would be 900% better if the people who spend every day whining about the mods fucked off to /ota/ or Trevor's shitty board.

If any of you actually think /jp/ was still good in 2011, you should seriously commit suicide as soon as possible

>>12196963

>The same is true for Kancolle threads and convention threads and suck-my-dick threads and homosexual roleplaying threads and whatever the fuck else you can think of.

It's true for all board-related threads. Kancolle is a video game, it's played by Japanese normals - not otaku - and belongs on /vg/. The rest you listed are all obviously not board related.

NEET threads are board-related, and were posted in and beloved by tons of people. It doesn't matter if you or Normie McNormieson, moot's moderator underling and buddy from SomethingAwful thinks they're bad, as long as lots of people were enjoying them - there was no detriment to leaving them up whatsoever, because as I said, this is not like /a/ or wherever you come from where threads are taking up precious slots on the front page. They were banned for the reason I said, which is that they're incompatible with the site's new normal-friendly flavor designed to sell the most Passes.

>>12196975
How would that be better? You love it, man.

>>12196975
So everyone on /jp/?

Daily dose threads are instantly deleted and hellbans are passed out, yet off topic threads about normies wanting to speak Japanese/ go to japan/ kanji advice are left on the front page for hours and hours.

The worst part is that the /jp/ natives actually spoon feed these morons, so no matter how much we sage, tell them to leave or insist that /jp/ is not the right board, they will keep coming back.

>>12196965
>>/jp/thread/S5734340#p5734441

This is the earliest mention by name of it since there's no archived changes to the ruleset. I think you're wrong, but if you can prove your point with some evidence I would change my mind.
But I think I still remember the rules as they were back then.

>>12196979
>it's played by Japanese normals
So are Touhou. And Elona. And those shitty mobile games. And "popular" visual novels like anything 07th Expansion.

>NEET threads are board-related
No. They're shit.

>as long as lots of people were enjoying them
Lots of people enjoyed Saten anon's homosexual roleplaying threads but they were still shit.

>>12196979
Careful your bias is showing.

pls leave /jp/ alone

it's the only board left

>>12196994

I don't really care about 'proving' anything to you. You're totally irrelevant - why would I expand energy trying to make my facts compatible with your diseased mind?

>>12196970
Honestly I'm a fraud and wasn't here for a lot of that, but I still feel like given some room to breathe this board could get better.

>>12196890
That would be nice, too bad they'd just be deleted and the user banned for ban evasion.

>>12197003
That's what everybody thought until 2011, when they got all the breathing space they wanted, and it was fucking shit. Multiple blogshit threads every single fucking day.

>>12196915
>Personal interests don't really affect decisions

HAHAHAHAHAHA yeah fucking right, get the fuck out of here dude.

>>12196997

Careful, your retardation is showing.

>>12196996

You're right about card games, Type/Moon and mobile games, but no, Touhou and Elona are played by legitimate otaku, even if normals also play them. The other things need to go though.

>No. They're shit.

I don't care if you think they're good or bad. Lots of people thought they were good - enough that they were alive constantly. Regardless of anyone's opinion of them they are board-related and this is objective, nondebatable fact.

>Lots of people enjoyed Saten anon's homosexual roleplaying threads but they were still shi

Those weren't board-related. Understand that things are not board related or board unrelated just because you like or dislike them.

Seems like the group-think habits that used to make /jp/ self regulating have really fallen out of use, especially sage.

>>12196915
>Personal interests don't really affect decisions,

"I just threw up ban evasion bans for anyone I felt like and they went through" - Saegrimr, former janitor, #catlooklikejanny, Rizon IRC, 2014

>>12197017
>Touhou and Elona are played by legitimate otaku, even if normals also play them. The other things need to go though.
And not a single "legitimate otaku" plays Kancolle?

>I don't care if you think they're good or bad. Lots of people thought they were good - enough that they were alive constantly.
See also: Saten anon's homosexual roleplaying threads and Tokiko's birthday party threads, which were all "constantly alive" and also constantly shit.

>Those weren't board-related. Understand that things are not board related or board unrelated just because you like or dislike them.
NEET threads are not and were not board related until a complete retard of a mod put them into the rules.

>>12197018
/jp/'s hivemind was purged after it was too filled with retards to salvage.

>>12197018

Sage was made invisible on another one of moot's retarded "the board will be this way regardless of how the users want it to be" conniptions

>>12197025

>And not a single "legitimate otaku" plays Kancolle?

I'm not interested in a dumb semantic argument with you. Kancolle is not an otaku culture-related thing, but argue this with someone else. What I'm arguing is that NEET threads are.

>NEET threads are not and were not board related

Yes they are. NEETs are related to otaku culture, anyone arguing otherwise is a normie arguing for the sake of their argument rather than for logic.

>>12197017
Why the fuck do you think that NEET threads are board related?

I find it really disrespectful that moot disallowed sage globally. Why not at least add an exception for /jp/? Does he think every board would be better off without sage, even though a few boards knew how to use it? Why does moot take decisions without taking in account that some of them might not be positive for all boards?

>>12197029
I know. I was right here, saying how stupid it was.

Apparently his reasoning was based around the common misconception that sage is a downvote, and that that misconception was so pervasive that he made it invisible. I don't think he realized that people were being ironic when they called sage a downvote, and that no one actually thought that's what it did.

The biggest problem besides forcing users out of here (post rate is so low now. . .) is that ''more efficient'' moderator tools have made threads disappear faster. Half the fun of /jp/ since day one has been having random weird threads that would be deleted after a long time. That's where we were always most creative. Now it's "I like Kancolle" "Yeah... me too" "This idol is nice" "How do I x?" "You do x by y". Dead board, bearing in mind all of these topics can be answered and discussed that way on other boards without a problem.

You don't come on /jp/ for that kind of exchange. Well, maybe now.

>>12197039

He does not give a shit about the board and never has. Stop feeling betrayed every time he does some self-interested, dumb thing, because that's who he is and it's never been different.

>>12197040
They are explicitly allowed in the most recent moderation post, which was almost two years ago.

>>12196897
Because Kancolle and 3DPD image dumps are so much better, right?

>>12197036
>I'm not interested in a dumb semantic argument with you.
Then get the fuck out of the thread.

>Yes they are. NEETs are related to otaku culture
You're really appealing to the board name moot picked without thinking twice? What about anime? Is anime "not related to otaku culture"?

>>12197039
He could have at least added a web 2.0 'no bump' button next to []Spoiler? like /prog/. Then new users would take notice of it.

>>12197048

The problem isn't the moderator tools. That's like blaming a shooting on the gun instead of the shooter. The staff are supposed to be arbitrators who do things in the direct interests of the board's users, NOT their own, and that's the opposite of what they have done and are doing.

do people still post flanfly and tenshi eating a corndog?

>>12197054
Yes. They at least don't make a separate thread for every fucking person or character.

>>12197061
The mods have finally, three and a half years too late, gotten off their lazy fucking asses and tried to kick the retarded attention whores out of /jp/.

Better late than never.

I really think metathreads like these are harmful to the overall security of /jp/. The more we complain, the bigger argument there is to just delete /jp/ and be done with it....

>>12197061
Exactly this, instead of just letting the board's community flourish as in the past - for both the board and the site itself - they step in and force some arbitrary set of personal interests.

>>12197063

Saegrimr started banning them so no

>>12197066

The board has less than half the posts-per-day it had in 2010 and is a tenth the quality. I don't care what your tiny dumb opinion of the board is.

>>12197070
I wish, that way I could leave this place.

>>12197070
If /jp/ was going to be deleted because of metathreads it would have been deleted in 2010.

>>12197074

People don't post fanfly?

>>12197070
/jp/ isn't going to be deleted. moot learned the mistake of deleting boards back when he deleted /r9k/ and /new/ and /jp/ is far more autistic than they are. That's why he's so hesitant to add new boards, because once they're added, they can't be deleted.

>>12197061
They are working off the same rules they always have but doing it much faster. It's because of a more efficient report queue and their detection scripts that they've "taken control of shitposting". Anyone should be able to see that how much faster things were deleted since the tools were updated.

If the staff's job is supposed to be to make the board more fun for everyone who uses it, rather than exclusively for themselves, why do they not make a poll on upcoming changes so the board's users can decide what they want?

>>12197089
They just want to keep it their personal playground.

>>12197074
>The board has less than half the posts-per-day it had in 2010 and is a tenth the quality.
Yeah, because the retards who came afterwards drove out most of the users by turning it into something approximating 4chan's shittiest board, and now that the retards have been kicked out there's nobody left.

>I don't care what your tiny dumb opinion of the board is.
Literally nobody gives a shit about your opinions except maybe to point out how retarded they are.

>>12197071
The threads (not NEET threads) but random xD threads/"shitposts" were always deleted. It was just much more slowly before.

>>12197089
>poll
Bad idea.

>>12197086

It really is amazing how much better the board was when janitor-mutes and template bans didn't exist, and people could thus evade effortlessly and post whatever they wanted

If the board was that much better with effectively no rules, imagine how good it could've been with good rules. A real shame.

>>12197089
woah a poll on changes!? Thank you based mods.

>>12197089
Because people stuff the shit out of those polls, and also moot doesn't give a shit about /jp/.

>>12197098

Put your capcode on and tell us why.

>>12197104

It's #2.

>>12197004
Maybe if ban evaders weren't the ones making threads we could avoid a lot of grief. Ban evasion bans are permanent and I don't see any reason to think there are false positives. I'd like to hear from people that got global 9'd while being in the clear but when it's always the same group of people then it's hard to feel any sympathy for them.

>>12197014
What do you want me to say, that's how we did it back then. Only way personal interest had any influence was when you catched a post right away since you were already in a thread instead of checking front page or reports. Faster response rate.

>>12197023
Now that's interesting, I'd like to see a source if possible. Mostly because it'd be dumbest shit ever, global 9 is tracked closely by mods and it'd fall apart of an audit. Just the appeal alone would fire up a number of alarms. If you wanted to abuse power, that'd be the worst way possible is my point.

>>12197048
The playground argument works until the fun of a small group of people starts to interfere with the community at large. More than half of the deleted threads are injokes from a handful of people trying to be relevant.

>>12197071
The board has never flourished. Even from the start it has been a race to define what is acceptable and what should be shunned and saged. Left to the community topics haven't increased, they shrunk and all moderation does is follow what we wanted. We lost too much with /vg/ if you ask me.

>>12197109
>Put your capcode
Oh, it's just an idiot. Carry on.

>>12197093
People keep saying this but if you go to an archive in 2008, 2009, 2010, etc there are a ton of "shitpost"s. Pick your favorite era, it will be full of "shitposts" and "retards". Tripping is practically banned now since one false step results in them being banned on site. It feels empty.

It's nice having something to hate otherwise things get boring.

>>12197111
I was falsely banned for ban evasion but I successfully appealed it through email. They turned off mods@4chan.org shortly afterwards, though.

>>12197111
>We lost too much with /vg/ if you ask me.
All the shit that was "acceptable in both boards" left /jp/ because /jp/ was so incredibly shit that people would rather put up with the clueless fucking morons in /vg/ than the autistic shitposters in /jp/.

>>12197111

AoC, please stop spamming awful arguments. No one gives a shit about you. Go get your attention elsewhere instead of continuing to lower the quality of the board, as you've done since you started posting here.

Fucking laughed hard at 'there's no ban evasion false positives' when the past janitor explicitly said he handed out ban evasion requests like candy, just to anyone whose post he disliked, and that they went through.

>>12196951
Fucking hilarious the way moot always forgets about his little ideas like this after a few weeks.

>>12197111
>>/jp/thread/S12142392

>>12197121
I like fun shitposts but at some point they became all-consuming thread destroyers. I'd rather have not enough shitposting than too much.

>[00:17] <07@Saegrimr> I literally just threw them [ban evasion bans] out randomly at any posts and/or memes I didn't like.

>>12197138
Every single person who ever posted Josh or janny look like cat was a ban evader.

>>12197142

Yep, 100% of them unilaterally. It's physically impossible for you to post anything like that unless you're a ban evader actually, a window pops up and says 'please ban evade then you can post this.'

>>12197111
>The playground argument works until the fun of a small group of people starts to interfere with the community at large. More than half of the deleted threads are injokes from a handful of people trying to be relevant.
/jp/ has always been like that. Now it's the same but instead of these jokers it's OPs for general threads. Just because they remain anonymous doesn't make it any less the same thing. Pretty much every general thread is a circle jerk with a more serious tone.

"Serious discussion only", ughh. Who wants to do that on an imageboard?

>>12197145
>Yep, 100% of them unilaterally.
I'm glad we were able to come to an agreement.

I seriously wish /jp/ would just be deleted and we could go back to touhou and tea hijacks on /a/. There's no fixing this board.

>>12197111
>Ban evasion bans are permanent
Not anymore. Now they are 9 days.

>>12197137
When do they do that?

>>12197142
I posted capital Ds one time and got banned even though I hadn't been banned before that. Saegrimr was overzealous.

>>12197155
Oops, I meant 90 days.

>>12197146
>Pretty much every general thread is a circle jerk with a more serious tone.
Nobody forces you to discuss shit in a general thread (unless that thread is for boats or idols, in which case you are stuck in your ghetto). If you want to make a fun thread for a VN that you liked then fucking make it.

>>12197156
>When do they do that?
When a bunch of autists decide that a thread is "bad for /jp/" and has to be shitposted into oblivion.

I want Evangelion threads and light novel threads

>>12197166
These were not good threads though. They were funny, I guess, but everyone knew that they were shit, and that they really weren't good for the board as a whole.

>>12197089
Trying to get a concensus out of /jp/ is too difficult. In the end we're too many people with different interests, some of them overlapping.
Plus already dealing with ban evaders it means that they would have too much of a voice by just going through the IPs they already do normally.

>>12197135
>>12197127
<Saegrimr> Ban evasion is still against the rules, it doesn't matter what you post.
<Turtletron> so is ban evasion just something to select when you can't think of anything else
<Saegrimr> If you're ban evading, I don't see what else i'd need to select

I just don't see it. I think you're just imagining something to make it fit your view that moderation is corrupt and biased.

>>12197146
Don't get me started on how generals are the death of communities, but it's pretty much the best defense mechanism people can find from constant abuse. So it's pretty much the natural consequence from the high defenses we still keep for some goddamn reason.
I hate this.

>>12197155
>>12197161
>Ban evasion will result in permanent bans—no exceptions.
The 90 days time is to avoid clutter I guess, since ban evaders will evade ban evasion bans every time anyway. If you're dumb enough to have a pattern and leave evidence that you're evading then it's hard to avoid having a target on you at all times.

>>12197166
This is why we can't have nice things

>>12197170

Light novel threads weren't bad.

>>12197166
Who could have guessed that the one posting half this nonsense was the Asuka spammer? Really surprising.

>>12197175
I didn't read light novels, I just responded to your image.

LNs are cool, but no one has really more than a passing interest in them, so they always die quick.

>>12197175
They were pretty dead, though, since 90% of the people who wanted to talk about LNs were already doing it in /a/.

>>12197162
>shitposted into oblivion.
It's always been really easy to ignore autists if you want to keep typing things in a thread. It was sorta a good thing, kept the community strong. You had to be clever and persistent.

>Nobody forces you to discuss shit in a general thread
You're missing the point - he said that people were circle jerking and that was bad. I'm just showing you that there is still circle jerking and there always will be since that's de facto what happens on an imageboard. We aren't here researching things. "Serious discussion" doesn't have a place since everyone here is a retard who doesn't know what they're talking about circlejerking with other retards who don't know what they're talking about. It's the direction of circlejerking that can be shaped, and mods/janitors whatever have shaped it into the current general threads culture.

>>12197174
>I just don't see it. I think you're just imagining something to make it fit your view that moderation is corrupt and biased.

<07akarin_friend> okay how do you justify ban requesting anonymous posters for evasion if you cant see their IP?
<07@Saegrimr> Its pretty obvious
<07akarin_friend> explain how in your mind its pretty obvious
<07Turtletron> I'd like to hear this one
<07@Saegrimr> I literally just threw them out randomly at any josh posts and/or memes I didn't like.

>>12197176

I've only posted about ~15% of this nonsense. There's no way I could post fast enough to have posted half.

>>12197174

I love how this retard avatars to draw attention to his IMPORTANT POSTS and how you should pay attention to them.

>>12197184
>It's always been really easy to ignore autists if you want to keep typing things in a thread
That's only true if you have a small group of posters who are working really hard to try and keep the thread on-topic and alive. Like, say, in a general thread.

>everyone here is a retard who doesn't know what they're talking
It's true, but if anything it's less true in general threads because the people autistic to post in a thread about Elona or fucking whatever for nine months straight end up knowing quite a bit about it.

I wish people who spam at least used prettier pictures. The spam will keep being deleted but I'd rather see some cute 2D girl rather than an ugly nigger.

>>12197195
pretty typical internet attention whore grasping onto his epic le oldefag e-cred hoping people won't bother to notice how dumb the shit he says is

>>12197198

A lot of the spam has been nice images. Kuroko spam was a nice picture.

>>12197188
See: >>12197142

>>12197195
God forbid somebody post images on an imageboard.

>>12197190
This thread has 130 replies in it, so if you've made 70 posts that's over half.

>>12197111
The only reason you think the board never flourished is because your board related PTSD.

>>12197204

I haven't made 70 posts, that's 70 (you) strings in this thread so 70 replies to posts of mine.

>>12197203
As pictures, I liked Kuroko spam more than most other spam but the person behind it was a real fucking piece of work.

AoC, can you confirm or deny that VNTS is a mod/jan

>>12196918
Why the fuck would I want to read the blogging of wannabenormals?
NEET threads were always fucking pathetic and no /jp/ truNEET would want to be seen anywhere near them

>>12197205
all /jp/ posters have PTSD of some form or another

>>12197213

Basically 90% of NEET threads was peaceful and happy discussion about what they had to eat or what they played that day, and other miscellaneous zen shit. There was a minimum of 'wannabe normal' posters and they were always shoved out.

>>12197204

This. STAP POASTING PICTARS ON THE CHANS.

>>12197213
I browsed NEET threads for the lifehacks and NEETips

>>12197203
Well, until 2012 the spam pictures at least were on-topic, mostly. The current spam is just plain embarrassing.

>>12197197
It's really wasn't ever hard to keep threads alive if you wanted to. This board has always been slow so it took a long time for threads to drop off backpages. Not many were shitposted to oblivion anyway and those that have been were usually "shitposts" themselves. (ie look up some of the kopipe spammed out stuff.)

People here do know a surprising amount about various things but that doesn't change the fact that they are circlejerking most of the time. The idol threads, in example, are all circlejerks even if the average poster in there can tell you all the little details about his favorite girl. It's just back and forth spam of pictures and occasional news posts by the same small group of people. That's ok but humor isn't allowed because it's been shaped that way.

>>12197223

Leave, dude.

>>12197221
>about what they had to eat or what they played that day, and other miscellaneous zen shit.
Fuck I miss those threads.

I miss when we used to talk about becoming girls on /jp/. Now you just get told to go to /lgbt/.

>>12197225

Niggy is extremely funny in a surreal sort of way.

>>12197204
>See: >>12197142
What should I see?
I'll quote it again for you:
>I literally just threw them out randomly at any josh posts and/or memes I didn't like.
>randomly
>memes I didn't like.
And what you said is not true anyways.

Winter 2011-2012 was the best time of my life. I had moved back in with my parents and they took care of everything. I sat in my warm room with snow outside the window listening to frnds4vr radio and posting on /jp/. Learning the board culture and discovering all these awesome Japanese things I'd never heard of made me feel like a kid again. But it's all gone now.

>>12197232
Sometimes I go to 2012 threads just to fap to the posts.
>>12197233
If you want to attention whore by spamming, might as well pick an iconic character. See japanese bird.
>>12197236
Good god, you know the board went to complete shit when someone feels nostalgia from 2011~2012.

>>12197227

lolk

>>12197236

Comfy /jp/...

>>12197188
Huh, guess that's what I get for just skimming through it.
I'm going to ignore the obvious argument that the whole thing could be doctored and focus instead on the possible logic behind it. Since janitors can't see IP without a mod's assistance, they're left with pattern recognition and assuming that a similar filename/style of post would be the same person. So a "let the mod sort them" ban request could work by leaving the actual check off to the mod and using the ban request as both a post disruptor for 30m and a flag to the mod to check a suspect post.
Of course the whole thing falls apart if the mod just approves without checking and what I mentioned before about global 9 being too much hassle since it gets audited later and it's easy to find evidence that there was no ban evasion.

Anyway, seeing how it was ban evaders asking this anyway, the whole log sounds to me less "why did you banned so many people unfairly" and more "how could you know I was ban evading, you got us too many times". Hard to say.

>>12197195
I just don't like all-text threads. I'm just grabbing from misc folder randomly.
One would think being the only tripfag in the thread is enough to attract attention anyway, why add avatar to it if you can already be tracked?

>>12197205
It's more from remembering meta threads before. It's never how we should allow more things, but how a certain topic is responsible for all the evils of the board and needs to be expelled. I admit that 2011 seems worse to me than it might have been though.

>>12197212
Not that I know of.

>>12197242

Nobody wants to listen to more of your baseless pro-staff garbage. You'd defend them no matter what they did, because they're the only friends you've ever had.

>>12197232
>>12197238
/gayp/ will never return

>>12197242
You really are the worst kind of symp. Yeah I guess some retard loser janitor on 4chan actually is NUMB3RS with IP Addresses super imposed behind his head as he autistically waves his hands in the air and bans all the ban evaders with perfect mathematical accuracy based on the Fibonacci sequence of the shit stains in their underwear.

Josh was innocent
Just posting his image in a thread was enough to Drive people and jannies over the edge, even to this day.
>"whenever josh was posted in my threads it made me angry"
>"I don't know man I was just like who is this? what is going on?"
-gooey1; bystander

>>12197260
>>"whenever josh was posted in my threads it made me angry"
>>"I don't know man I was just like who is this? what is going on?"
That autism is delicious. "I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND IT MAKES ME ANGRY"

>>12197260
Josh is a fucking piece of shit, and so are almost all memes created after 2010. You idi/o/ts get the crown, though, you somehow managed to be more pathetic than the whole steam group crowd, because at least they liked topics related ot the board.

>>12197266
See what I mean

>>12197259

>as he autistically waves his hands in the air and bans all the ban evaders with perfect mathematical accuracy based on the Fibonacci sequence of the shit stains in their underwear.

Janitor might be like Harry Seldon, where he's a super psychologist silently driving /jp/ towards a happy future even though it hurts now!

Right?

>>12197266
This, my god that one guy and his shitty Josh meme is seriously not funny. Things like that are really representative at how shit 4chan is now.

Why did this happen...? Why can't things be good again...?

>>12197279
I'd rather have anyone than these mentally retarded car faggots. Even moetron, even fukune, even zunbar, even liberty kun, even kuroko spammer, even currybutt, even arc, even gigs, even white ren, even athens, even literally any shitty tripfag or spammer than the current crowd. I'd rather see those idiots spamming dubs all over the board than niggy and some sandnigger being posted 24/7 in the front page.

>>12197291

/jp/ has to be killed so it can start all again

>>12197264
Listen here, you big bitch.

You think you're so tough because you dumped your life's savings into a cheap, low-quality land barge that's dedicated to going as fast as possible in a straight line, and allegedly put your shrimp dick into an attention-starved whore whose brain had some chemicals mix around in her head telling herself that she'll feel better about herself if she fucks one more lowlife faggot most likely because of some daddy issues. I remember when I lost my virginity too you cock-gobbling muppet.

You think you're a man because you shot some blanks into a cum dumpster. A real man has respect for people. You're a punk who needs praise from others and to turn heads on the street to feel good. And then come onto an image board, try to use seniority as a status symbol, and talk down to people whom you've never met. What kind of pathetic, spineless, insecure, scumsucking cockroach are you?

If I catch you on the street, I'll break your fucking nose.

10/10 all my mad, props to you.

>>12197295

>even zunbar
>even moetron

Slow down, now.

>>12197279
It's not the Josh or the Drive or whatever that's funny, it's the reaction to something really harmless. Like, if they weren't deleted all the time because it's too off-topic or circlejerk, it would just be known as that one guy who posts that weird kids face every so often in various and talks about Driving. That might even have been good if it had been that since different approaches to topics brings about creativity.

Instead we had this overzealous janitor viewed it as threatening so he added it to a script and it became a kind of game along with a lot of other posts. The context was really funny.

>>12197244
Staff hated me and still does. I'm just tired of the meta discussion being dominated by one side only. I think you're just afraid I'm right, things are simpler when you're just an innocent fighting with spam. It's justified in your head, rather than realizing that you're just annoying everyone else.

>>12197259
I know it's a stretch, but entirely possible. What Saegrimr says is more about using faulty pattern recognition rather than just ban requesting every topic he disliked. Mostly because I know how things are easily misinterpreted by looking from just one side.

>>12197299
Hey, at least zunbar managed to make on-topic posts once in a while. The new crowd is literally composed of crossboarding autists who were kicked out from their secret club or something. And this is coming from someone who's against excessive janitoring.

>>12197247
I don't like the sexual side of it

I just want to be a cute girl and I don't know where my comrades from /jp/ have gone.

I don't know how everyone else can be happy just looking like male dorks

>>12197302
> it would just be known as that one guy who posts that weird kids face every so often

That's exactly what I think of it.

>>12197295
Even ISM?

>>12197308
> It's justified in your head, rather than realizing that you're just annoying everyone else.

Dude wow, this is what literally everyone thinks of you. What is even going on here, are you trying to be the most ironic shitposter of all time?

I never thought I'd say this, but I miss Tokiko. I'd rather have him and his retarded shitposter gang over the new kancancer/mobile game/generalshit population. At least it was something that intented to be original and creative.

>>12197330
Fuck off, 2kike.

>>12197330
I said this once, and then he actually came back for a guest appearance, and I remembered why I hated the shit out of him.

>>12197335
>>12197330
Holy shit owned.

>>12197330

I'd rather have the shitpost clique than the new 'I love memes and touhou and cool anime card games' crowd as well

>>12197330
Sorry to tell you, but Jewnes was just as bad as Josh. Just happens that Tokiko was a piece of shit who knew how to annoy the board. The "trevor"/warosu gang is just composed by mindless idiots.

>>12197308
You're damn right it's a stretch! How is it any better if this retard thinks he can determine who is Ban Evading based on the content of posts? At best you've made him a slightly less stinky piece of shit.

>>12197350
Trevor's subhuman group isn't the same as warosu.

>>12197330
> At least it was something that intented to be original and creative.

They never were creatuve or anything remotely postive.
They were unfunny little shitters and I hope they all die horrible deaths.

I'm actually making them responsible for /jp/ reaching this state.

If it was for them and the whole year of pigspam 12 hours every day sometime in 2012 we wouldn't have gotten new moderation and I'm sure many old members left because of this.

Anyone who makes these kind of uncreative, unfunny attentionwhore shitposts should go and kill himself

>>12197320
ISM was great

>>12197345
/jp/ has always loved memes and Touhou, though.

Well, a mod went online. Time for this TRAITOROUS METATHREAD to get threadbanned.

>>12197377
See you beyond the veil.

>>12197377
I hope mine isn't for something too embarrassing since I have new room mates don't know if any of them browse here yet.