/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Hmmm, Reisen thighs...

They're gunners. I wonder if a usual weapon would even work on the moon.

>>12176157
Dude, even grunts get taught a little martial art and CQC drill, and Reisen looks to be above grunts.

>>12176157
Guns (ballistic ones anyway) would have to be modified extensively to work in outer space, /k/ used to have long threads about it.

I always picture Reisen fights like Alice from Bloody Roar, which is indeed kickboxing and thigh scissor grapple.

Mix of Judo, Ba Ji Quan, Kickboxing and Sambo.

I don't know, it might be something that earth people couldn't understand

Moonbitches are supposed to superior to everyone, right? Wouldn't they use the superior martial art, Aikido, if so? That is of course why even Yukari is helpless before them.

>>12176405
That's the lunarian.

Reisen is just a servant rabbit.

>>12178648
Reisen is just a useless bunny, only good for her sex appeal.

>>12178655
That reminds me, just another day at Eientei.

Lunarian weapons are pretty damn magical and stuff, so they're very strong.

They can fire multiple shots, cause great explosions, and all that stuff.

They're drilled with bayonets, and probably know the Lunar fighting style as well, which is presumably Oriental in nature (So akkido, ju jitsu, etc. etc.)

>>12178679
Reisen does seem a lot more "western" than the other moon characters, must because of her uniform. Reisen II is like that too.

>>12178683
Yup! Her uniform is pretty good for that.

She's also very talented, even marked out at such by the Watatsukis. It's likely she's the best moon rabbit soldier there ever was. Too bad there's such a low bar for such a title.

>>12178686
I wonder if moon rabbit is naturally human-shaped (bunny girl) or they have a true form like earth rabbit youkai.

>>12178690
I think they're born that way, having 'evolved' from rabbits much like Lunarians 'evolved' from humans.

>>12178686
Too bad she's also a deserter.

The lunar rabbits are like the lunar equivalent to SDM fairies.

>>12178697
Not even, one rabbit beat three fairies at once in SSiB.

They're far more well trained, but the morale just isn't there.

Moon rabbits are also naturally attuned to offensive magic and they have their eyes. I imagine when they're bound together by great leadership (Such as the Watatsukis), they're an amazing fighting force.

We still don't know the nature of Reisen's desertion as well.

>>12178697
Yeah, she now has to live with that sin, Shiki scolded her pretty badly in PoFV.

>>12176148
Tell me more about Reisen's thighs

>>12178707
Rabbits have big back legs, so as you can imagine, Reisen's butt and thighs are pretty big.

>>12178697
Uh, Reisen participated in the SDM raid, I think she is way above unnamed grunt level.

>>12178655
I dunno man, she's equipped with some serious ballistic missiles.

>>12178709
Hmmm, yes. She must have large, child-birthing hips perfect for carrying out multiple births.

Makes sense, considering that rabbits always seemed to be appertained to breeding in abundance.

>>12178699
>their eyes
Does Reisen II have the same lunatic eyes?

I thought Udonge is unique in that.

>>12178728
Yet Tewi is teeny-tiny in comparison.

She's a war bunny, so those solid hips are just for looking good in her cute uniform!

>>12178729
All Lunar rabbits have the red eyes, but Reisen was noted for being far more developed and powerful when concerning her eyes.

If I remember right, one of the Watatsukis said she was exceptionally skilled in hiding her presence from the minds of others and all that.

>>12178730
I guess there's a good reason why Eirin old hag chose her as a disciple after all.

>>12178738
Precisely! She's a good rabbit.

>>12178742
With good potential to be super hax.

>>12176167
It's heat dissipation that is the real problem, right?

>>12178747
Being able to enforce your magic in places that you aren't even physically present is pretty damn OP.

Reisen is crafty with her eyes, which allows for her to definitely be pretty damn OP.

>>12178749
That and I believe the lack/difference of gravity means the bullet can travel far longer which is a good and bad thing.

>>12178730
Solid indeed.
I bet they are capable of carrying some pretty heavy loads though, so they're not just for show.

>>12176167
Mythbusters found that guns can still fire in complete vaccum.

>>12178755
Hence why she's a gun bunny!

>>12178753
So far she can guess a person's personality by seeing their wavelength, manipulate people's mind (ranging from making illusion to turning people insane), teleportation and eye laser.

I believe if Eirin is serious about teaching her more eye techniques she would be one of the reality-altering characters.

>>12178762
She can practically warp reality already, if you consider what the mind makes to be reality.

In one of the trio fairy mangas, she uses her eyes to make the bamboo forest utterly inescapable, even for Tewi who knows the bamboo forest like the back of her hand.

There's also what she did to Eientei in IN, making every single direction completely pointless and making the halls appear to stretch on for eons.

Her illusions also seem capable as acting as conduits for her magic.

>>12178758
See >>12178749. In outer space a gun would not be able to cool its barrel and other working parts nearly as quickly due to the lack of atmospheric transfer. Thus continuous fire from an unmodified weapon would be anywhere from dangerous to impossible.

>>12178765
Nah, if it's just in their mind then that's just very good illusion.

Reality altering would be something like Yukari's barrier which destroys physics and common sense or Sanae's "miracle".

>>12178773
If it completely alters their consciousness, then I don't see why it wouldn't be seen as altering their reality.

>>12178778
IMO it just alters their perception of reality by directly rewriting their brain rather than what is really there.

Still very fearsome power nonetheless.

Reisen can make you dumber by slowing down your wavelengths.

>>12178800
It actually just puts you to sleep or calm, if I recall correctly.

do moon rabbits know gun kata?

>>12178800
that's my fetish

>>12178801
Really? She can make you either insane or more carefree, the latter I assume means making you dumber/think slower.

>>12178809
I would say absent-minded, perhaps.

They probably learn Gymkata

Can Reisen and her Lunarian fighting style defeat Meiling in pure martial arts combat?

>>12179763
Considering Meiling's entire shtick is that she's good at close combat, it would be safe to say that she would be able to beat Reisen in that sort of match, otherwise Meiling wouldn't really stand out.

When it comes to magical ability and all that, Reisen would be more proficient.

>>12179763
Probably not since Meiling is all about that shit while Reisen's martial art is just mandatory military training.

>>12179763
Only ones who can probably best Meiling in her own game is the Oni trio.

>>12179765
Isn't Reisen's specialty, all said and done, shooting bullets though?

In lunatic mode she doesn't use illusion or anything but just shoots (magic) bullets, which makes she think she's a machine gunner than a magician.

>>12179792
It's a bit hard to determine her abilities from the game, but it's a bit easier to see how she works in the fighting games.

Her magic is non-elemental, so it probably manifests as something Reisen is used to dealing with, bullets and such.

>>12179797
Yeah, I get what you are saying, the game says spellcards but the abilities are closer to ESP/psychic powers.

>>12179805
That is true, I am not exactly sure to what extent Reisen is capable of using magic (As Lunarian magic doesn't seem to be elemental in any sense, more of an 'arcane' form of magic if that makes sense), but a lot of her unique abilities come from her eyes.

Perhaps her eyes are stronger than her magic, or the magical nature of her eyes is far more wieldy to the rabbit?

>>12176395
cute mausupiisu

>>12179807
Both Eirin and Kaguya used magic before, but Reisen just becomes a magic user when she comes to Gensokyo, I guess her eyes power and her experience being a soldier are more familiar to her.

>>12179815
Lunar rabbits are actually naturally attuned to offensive magic, they are born with a natural talent in that area of magic.

It was likely that she was tutored in how to use offensive magic on the Moon.

In contrast, Kaguya and Eirin's magic is also used for utility, not just offense.

>>12179818
It's true that she just get used to the magical danmaku battles in Gensokyo though, I wonder if she would use a firearm if she has a choice, Reisen hasn't gone serious in any games yet.

>>12179826
Reisen is said to be a bit kind-hearted, at least letting up in her spellcards (From one of the card descripitions, at least).

It's likely that she doesn't want to bring the horrors of war to such a friendly, innocent place. It could turn it completely upside-down.

That and she can learn more devestating magicks from Eirin too, being her disciple!

>>12179833
That reminds me, Eirin used a bow, and her disciple makes finger gun, so very...fitting, thematically.

>>12179839
Of course, though Eirin's bow is a simple of wisdom in Tibetan Buddhism.

It's pretty funny, seeing as Reisen has a gun! They're the projectile group.

Silly Metal Gear CQC but with more legwork and gun play.

>>12179913
Space CQC?

So Reisen can shoot guns, do martial art, but can she knife fight?

I assume she can since she has bayonet drill.

>>12179933
If she's special force then yeah she's probably trained in knife fight and improvised weapon combat.

>>12179938
>>12179933
Would she need too? She's got magic. Her fingers are guns.

>>12179965
Works in situation where magic does not apply, a soldier is all about being able to do her job in the worst situation possible.

>>12179971
Yeah, it's cool to pretend but Reisen deserted when shit hits the fan.

Still, I guess that's survival, even if she committed a sin.

Reisen seems like she's comfortable with knife combat.

Reisen is my favorite Touhou.

Is she yours as well?

>>12180334
We're talking about her combat capabilities.

Whether she's favorite or not doesn't matter.

>>12180341
Well that's just like, your opinion, dude.

>>12180341
What do you think is Reisen's favorite method of combat?

>>12180334
I liker her. Really. A lot. She's in my top 3.

>>12180359
Using her magic gun and illusion waves, like in fighting game.

I don't what kind of martial arts she learned, but in the game she does slapping and tackling in the game, as well as headbutt.
What kind of Lunarian martial arts is that?

>>12180365
She also has the meanest left hook ever.

>>12180365
Sound like american eggball.

>>12180365
Maybe she doesn't fight seriously in the fighting games because if she did she would be broken as fuck?

>>12181166
Slapping is nonsense shit but tackling and headbutt and throwing hooks are street fight techniques.

>>12176157
>>12176167
>>12178749
Regular firearms would function perfectly in the vacuum of space, but there would be a few issues that might arise in the long run.

1. Lubricants could become very viscous if left in the shade for extended periods of time. Extreme cold could slow down the cycling action speed, and cause malfunctions.

2. Lubricants could evaporate quickly in vacuums and leave the gun dry. This isn't a very big problem, though, as most firearms can cycle well without lubricants, albeit with more wear and tear as tens of thousands of rounds are fired. Degreasing a gun completely is actually how you'd get it to function in extreme cold, even on Earth.

3. Since there's no air, the firearm would get warm and stay warm for a long time. Things in space lose heat by radiation only, and that isn't the quickest way. However, it is hard to get a gun to malfunction from being shot until it's too hot and starts to fail; if you had an AR-15 or M4 and ten (10) magazines of thirty rounds, and fired them all in full-auto, even in space, it would not become too hot to break. The gas tube might get a little red, but it would be okay. Six to nine hundred rounds without pause would melt things, however.

Belt-fed firearms would either require three or four barrels to allow the first one to cool enough to be changed back versus the regular two, or need some form of cooling. Having a bunch of water tanks in space wouldn't be the best way to do this, so multiple barrels to quick-change would probably be the best way to go.

>>12181473
That's really limiting, so you can't fire an LMG in space without it melting off after 50 rounds?

>>12182000
A good 2 man team would have no trouble keeping a belt fed happy well into multiple thousands of rounds with a few spare barrels. This wouldn't change in space, they'd just be switching a bit more often, probably at the 300 round mark or so. Depends of the caliber, and how fast they have to shoot.

The shooter's job is fairly simple. Watch beaten zones, suppress, stay clear of friendlies. Sure, it gets a little hectic, but the support guy is key to the shooter doing his job.

The support guy has to keep his eyes and ears open for commands or forces trying to flank his position, he has to link a finishing belt so that there's no stop between the belt that's running out of ammo and the belt that's fresh (he has to link them while the gun is firing), and he has to do that while keeping the belt feeding properly.

Last and most importantly, he has to keep an eye on the barrel, and when it gets too hot, he has to coordinate with the shooter to swap it for a cool barrel.

A good MG team can keep a whole mountain of enemy combatants suppressed or dead for hours on end with enough ammo and two/three barrels. In space, they'd just need a few more barrels, as they'd take longer to cool.

>>12182028
Dude, from a thousand round change to a 300 round limit, they are gonna need a lot more barrels, and that's an MG team, I'm more talking of LMG dude in a fireteam who has to take care of the LMG by himself.

>>12182039
Some modern rifles and their LMG variants are designed with quick barrel swaps in mind. Granted, this is more to allow for swapping between long and short barrels depending on what the situation requires, but it could be applied to normal barrels too.

>>12182052
Still carrying a lot of barrels isn't really ideal, lotsa extra weight for an already weighty gun with lot of bullet, it's better to install some sort of cooling system to keep the barrel from melting every hundred rounds.

>>12182060
Somehow I doubt weight matters much in Zero G.

>>12182039
Again, depends of how fast they need to fire, but you're right, on an LMG with no support, it would get pretty interesting. MG teams change barrels more on how many rounds they put down per minute compared to how many total rounds they've expended. Even on Earth, in full retard shooting, they end up swapping fairly quickly. Sometimes they don't need to change for a long time if they're firing in short bursts with a bit of time between each burst; it doesn't take much to keep heads down.

At that point, it would make sense to spend the extra money for cobalt alloy barrels. Also, since you're in space or on the moon, weight isn't that big of an issue, so you could either have a heatsink on your barrel, or even a second LMG entirely. You are in space, after all.

>>12182052
Of course. Many LMGs and MGs can be swapped in a very short times, in the order of three to five second to switch barrels, and some take longer. Some require heat resistant mitts, others have handles. Again, it depends.

>>12182060
Correct, a cooling jacket might come back into vogue with space fights. They probably wouldn't use water, though. It would need to stay liquid in vacuum, unlike water that boils off at room temperature in space.

>>12182063
Still going to cumbersome though, weights just don't disappear altogether in Zero G.

>>12182071
That's what your support dude is for.

Maybe single man LMG wouldn't be feasible in space. It might be realistic just to have two dudes on one LMG or GPMG. One has the MG and ammo, the other has barrels and a carbine. They'd both have about as much weight as the other, and would practice their respective tasks.

>>12182076
Now that would be a change in modern fireteam doctrine, since LMG dude role is just as crucial as riflemen and DM, and while similar, MG team does not have the movement nor initiative as the LMG dude.

But oh well, let's see what the future have in store for us.

>>12182090
I think space in itself would change fireteam doctrine.

I mean it's space

Even astronauts that are in space right now probably wouldn't know how to direct fireteams in actual space combat. It would probably like being in a firefight underwater, except with less hearing, nigh-infinite weapon range, and unintuitive physics of movement and mass. All that alone would require intensive training in a completely different way than regular combat training.

What bugs about Reisen's desertion is that the moon war remains pretty darn inconsequential (since the earthlings lost, no more moon mission for now), and everything seems fine in Silent sinner in Blue.

Maybe the desertion has less to do with the american invasion but the moon authority?

>>12182099
There would be open space combat and boarding action I guess.

>>12182106
That would be pretty cool, like shifting between spehss tactics and regular close combat stuff.

Also, I think most spehss guns would be high velocity subcaliber stuff, because more speed would be better for extended space range, and holes don't need to be large to make your space suit shit itself.

>>12182103
Micheal Collins was asked to find bunny girl.
He found bunny girl.
He raped bunny girl.

>>12182122
Court evidences:

>Houston: Among the large headlines concerning Apollo this morning, there's one asking that you watch for a lovely girl with a big rabbit. An ancient legend says a beautiful Chinese girl called Chang-o has been living there for 4000 years. It seems she was banished to the Moon because she stole the pill of immortality from her husband. You might also look for her companion, a large Chinese rabbit, who is easy to spot since he is always standing on his hind feet in the shade of a cinnamon tree. The name of the rabbit is not reported.

>Michael Collins:[6] Okay. We'll keep a close eye out for the bunny girl.

But who can blame him? Reisen is too hard to resist.