/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I'll repost my question in this thread:
Anyone have an updated sales chart?

>>12169536
check getchu

I'm just planning to read top shit from this month (Sakigake Generation, MajoKoi Nikki, Golden Marriage, Haruka Kanata when they fix their shit) although I'm rushing through Racial Merge right now. I also finished Love Sweets, it was mediocre.

>>12169536
This month's? Just check Getchu.
http://www.getchu.com/pc/salesranking201405.html?gc=gc

>>12169561
Good to see the saiminjutsu remake sold, I enjoyed it.

>>12169561
Anything working of checking on the top 10?

>>12169581
The first two. The nukige are up to your fetishes.

>>12169570

I'm also enjoying it.

>>12169606
I loved the first scene he appears with the first sex scene
>he's my grandfather
>I respect him so much
>his cock is strong and smelly
>he's such a great person

I need some new comedy/moege with good art to play. And by new I mean like anything after 2012.

>>12169561
>愛姉妹IV

Is anyone reading that atm? I'd like to read some opinions.

>>12169655
There's a couple people in this thread playing Sakigake Generation if that's up your alley.

>>12169686
It's not really, I don't like the art very much, the faces bother me for instance and the premise doesn't really interest.

>>12169606
>>12169660
It's hard to make progress in reading nukige since I fap to them and I'm holding it only for a few scenes, that way progress is always so slow that I can't catch up to new releases.

>>12169655

Clover Day's

Reposting for whoever is interested, considering that this got on the thread when it was about to reach its bump limit:

"The Abaddon Princess in the Corrupt World" (http://vndb.org/v13066)) is an Ero/Horror RPG game which has recently picked up to be translated. The game features both PC-98 style CGs and regular CGs. Warning: the game also features BL routes, which can be blocked in the options.

The only version around is 1.00 and several errors have been corrected, some parts have been slightly modified and some extra content has been added. There are no patches on the official site of the game, so the only way to get an updated game is by re-downloading it.

The game is around 300 MB and Japanese locale is needed to run it properly (Applocale won't do the trick).

It is a ZIP file divided with Hjsplit.

http://www40.zippyshare.com/v/6223893/file.html
http://www40.zippyshare.com/v/82897854/file.html
http://www40.zippyshare.com/v/67571081/file.html
http://www40.zippyshare.com/v/82755981/file.html

>>12169620

Can't wait until the tsundere gets raped into oblivion. Though she tries a bit too hard sometimes. Still irritating.

>>12169927
The tsundere is fun
>for today's show, unless you lose your virginity in 10 minutes, you will be single and unhappy forever
>I-it's not like I have a choice but fucking you
It's stuff like that why I like hypnosis in all its variants. That said, she gets a bestiality scene when you get into Murasaki's bad end route.

>>12169308
You just need to turn these statues in correct positions.
Use wiki, http://www60.atwiki.jp/ladea_memoria/pages/23.html

Could somebody else check if they can access EGS through http://japanwebproxy.com/, I want to know if the problem is just on my end or if they blocked that proxy

>>12170138
Seems to work for me, though it's pretty slow.

>>12170138
PROTIP: You don't need a proxy to access EGS.

>>12170200
Some people do. I used to be blocked until I switched my ISP earlier this year, now I'm not.

>>12170200

Well, I do.

>>12170200
I do, they blocked me a month or two ago. I have no idea how to set up a VPN and I'm not sure it's worth it if i only check EGS for Seiyuu stuff

>>12170213
You don't need a VPN, a simple proxy will do. Just try ones from here until you find one that works:
http://www.proxynova.com/proxy-server-list/country-jp/
I use FoxyProxy to set the proxy on a site-by-site basis so I don't have to deal with changing it unless the one I'm using goes offline.

I don't need it for EGS myself, but I do for certain brands' pages and such that block foreign IPs.

Two routes down, Ouka's innocent lewd reactions were gold and damn her last scene was hot, putting those character designs and costumes to good use for once, underboob sex, so good.

>>12170224
>You don't need a VPN, a simple proxy will do

I might pass on that, i have a bad feelings I'll forget it to turn it off and accidentally post on 4chan

>>12170353
Considering how annoying and slow they are, you tend to realize you have a proxy on. One time I forgot about it and reinstalled my browser because of the excruciatingly bad speed, but generally I remember.

>>12170353

Either the proxy gets banned or you won't even be able to post. Big deal.

Or you could all send your IP/range to hiro_in and he'll add you to the whitelist.
I ended up doing that and no problems.

>>12170353
Use foxyproxy or similar plugin for your browser. It allows to use proxies only for specific url patterns

>>12169882

Seems interesting, I'll check it out.
Thank you for the repost.

I've been listening to random tracks of Fortissimo on youtube, they're actually pretty cool. How are the games, though? Anyone here liked them? Or are they mostly pretty bad?

>>12170553
Chuuni-lite. Momiji is a great heroine but the others are lacking, some of the fights are great and some are just beamspam, and the last chapter or so before the final battle is excruciatingly bad.

But it's a pretty fun ride overall, I don't regret it. Protip, there's only one game, just loads and loads of enhanced versions with additional routes. Guess they thought in order to be Dies Irae good they need to remake it 15 times.

>>12170567
but Dies Irae was actually good in the end.

>>12170625
Well yeah that was my point. Fortissimo'd need a redo from the ground up.

Does Senshinkan have anything to do with Dies Irae and Kajiri Kamui Kagura? I haven't played DI and KKK, but Senshinkan's trial was relly good, can't wait for the main game...

>>12170678
Do you live in the past?

>>12170678
No, there's some comeo stuff in Senshinkan, but it doesn't affect story. Its stand-alone game.

>>12170689
Maybe he's waiting for the Vita version.

>>12169660
I'm like 6 hours in. Couldn't play too much due to stuff. It's kinda like Kisaku I think. The protagonist is pretty much scum of society, but he's kinda sympathetic to a degree.
To be honest not too many games actually depict a somewhat realistic dysfunctional modern Japanese household, so I'll take whatever I can get.

Just started playing himawari 2 days ago. I thought the text size is very small (only <2 MB), but how come the second episode is ridiculously long. It feels equally long like chusingura.

>>12170924
Around 2mb is like 25~35hours of reading...

Tsubame's 12 hour cunni scene in Clover Day's just made me laugh so hard I had to stop fapping. Well played, ALcot.

>>12171158
>12 hour cunni scene
Explain, please.

>>12171184

Starts off like a typical cunni scene, but then it fades to black and says '6 hours later' and comes back to her with the mindbreak eyes and MC-kun still going at it. Not actually a 12 hour long scene in real time.

>>12171213
I need to actually play that game. I was kind of reluctant because it looks like it's really long and because I have an irrational hatred for 関西弁, but that might just make it worth it.

>>12171376

It's great for what it is, I'd definitely recommend it based on my experience so far.

It is shaping up to be really long. I'm a pretty slow reader but I've already sunk at the very least 20 hours into it and I'm not even done with my first route yet. If the rest of the routes are as long as Tsubame's it's gonna be way over 50 hours. Right now I'm fine with that since I'm seriously looking forward to the imouto routes, but after those I worry that I might lose interest.

I also find Kansai-ben to be a huge pain in the ass, but it's pretty cute when Tsubame uses it when she gets fired up.

>>12170229
Ouka's a pretty lewd one, she's a bit of a closet pervert too. I think she's lewdest of the bunch and likes it real rough. I guess repression did its work

Just finished Koiken Otome Revive and wow, Shiho is an Elder God tier heroine and her new sprites are pretty nice. The girl should have been one of the main heroines instead of an FD sub and dat serious Chiyoda. The girl could've soloed every team in the VN. Also Akane's and Eve's stocks for me took a nosedive after that stunt they pulled with Hibiki because of "muh lineage". Now I know Hibiki consented with the fight, but around the last half it was clear it was one-sided, even Seiichi wanted to stop it but was restrained by Eve. It's because of their actions that her Kotona side reclassified mankind as a threat and ended with Hibiki disappearing. All that shit just because of fucking pride and yes, I mad.

>>12169655
daitoshokan fits the description.

>>12169882
Picked up by who?

>>12171397
I'll just give it a try and see how long I last.

>>12171564
why is your font like that?
well,clover day have a nice comedy so its should keep you from getting bored.
>>12171397
i barely understand what she is saying at first but get used too it later.at first i was dafuq is uchi,dafuq is akan~ etc.

>>12171588
I just like Epson's 行書体 fonts for some reason.

>>12171588
>dafuq is uchi
I don't think you should be reading any Japanese.

>>12171474
Kira from Memories of Fear (a group dedicated to the translation of Corpse Party games and other horror RPGs).

Site: http://kirashade.co.vu/

>>12171593
i never know that uchi can used like watashi/atashi.

>>12171598
That's why you shouldn't be reading any Japanese.

>>12169513


http://youtu.be/p1NGC3S5sEU

>>12171599
That's why he's reading dumb eroge.

Is he implying that her sweat might possibly smell good?

>>12171636
Why wouldn't it?

>>12171640
Why would it? Sweat can't possibly smell good.

>>12171641
Have you ever smelled the sweat of a fictional character?

>>12171642
Well, unless the said fictional character is supposed to specifically have a reason as to have good smelling sweat, I don't see why it would be so.

>>12171641
pheromones

>>12171645
Isn't having sweat that doesn't stink enough of a reason?

As a confession scene, this was particularly unique, but way to go Yuria.

I don't get what happened here. What did she do wrong? Is it some kind of nipponese manners thing?

Bishoujo Mangekyou -Norowareshi Densetsu no Shoujo-
http://vndb.org/v8038
I was hoping Mangagamer would pick this up considering it's nukige. But no. What's the best way to go about reading this then. Atlas?

>>12171748
Best way for you would be to kill yourself. Or learn about fucking >>>/vg/.

>>12171755
Keep your machine translation readers to yourself, faggot.

>>12171755
I mean, I've read like 20 visual novels. And this is a visual novel general thread. The fuck are you angry about

>>12171748
>>12171761
Simply learn Japanese. It's that easy.

>>12171745
You should probably post the conversation, because I don't think people would remember a random conversation from a game they've already finished.

>>12171762
No

>>12171765
Then you can't play it. Deal with it.

>>12171748
>What's the best way to go about reading this then.
Learn nip.

>>12171766
Nah, I'm just going moogy on twitter

>>12171774
going to ask*
It's been a long night

>>12171764
Oh, well, basically, Kakei refuses to join the student council, and nearing the end of that conversation, Suzuki brings Kakei and Takamine's meals.

Suzuki 「比内地鶏と鰆、おーまたせしましたーっ」

Takamine 「おっ、ナイスタイミング。いいね、鈴木さん、いいよ」

Suzuki 「よくわかりませんが、どもども」

Suzuki 「ところで、３名様に増えてます？」

Student Council President 「いえ、私は結構よ。もう食事は済ませたから」

Then as the student council president leaves;

Student Council President 「それとあなた」

Suzuki 「はい？」

Student Council President 「もう少しきちんとした接客態度を心がけるべきだと思うわ」

Anyone knows what that was about?

>>12171780
A waiter shouldn't interrupt the guest's conversations, and Mochizuki was also trying to convince Kakei, which made it even worse.

>>12171780
Student council president probably sees it as a case of KY.

>>12171783
What a dumb cunt. What is the waiter supposed to do with the food? Just wait until they're done chatting and let it get cold?

>>12171794
KY?

>>12171798
空気よめない

>>12171794
>What is the waiter supposed to do with the food? Just wait until they're done chatting and let it get cold?
She should speak as little as possible and just leave the food, which is what Kana did. Kaichou overreacted because Kakei used it to escape.

>>12171800
Oh ok

Is it worth getting into the Muv-Luv series?

I would go on to read everything available in Japanese. Is the setting interesting and fleshed enough?

>>12171877
The actual art assets are kind of dated, but if you like scifi/mecha stuff, it's probably worth reading. The pacing was a pretty big problem for me and kind of killed a lot of my original interest in it, but most people seem to like it. There's better stuff out there, but it's probably worth giving a try at least.

>>12171877
http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/game_comment_time.php?game=4286#all_comment

>>12171877
It's a series created almost solely to pander to nips with an inferiority complex. As long as you're okay with plot points like characters suddenly becoming better pilots by embracing their innate YAMATO DAMASHII, "deep" introspection about the meaning of being born master race nipponjin, and blatant anti-Americanism, you might find something to like to like. In the setting, I mean. I'm not American, by the way.

As far as the narrative itself goes, well that's just a whole other can of worms. Some parts are engaging and interesting, but mostly, you'll wish the characters would get on with their missions instead of standing around circuitously discussing their feelings. The sum of the text is about 20% action, 20% pseudo-science exposition and 60% muh feelings. The writing is also notably bad in that it telegraphs upcoming character deaths with all the classic death flags. I personally felt reading the Muv-Luv series ended up being a massive waste of time for minimal payoff, but your mileage may vary. The ending was also shit, effectively tossing out 50+ hours of character development in favor of hitting a big reset button.

Regardless, how Alternative managed to score so high on EGS and vndb is a mystery to me.

Is Japanese locale not enough for sakuoto?

>>12171933
Considering the engine, you probably need time/date format too.

>>12171928
Probably because people didn't have the same negative perspective as you did. For example, even though it was clear that there was nationalism involved in the plot, it never struck me as anti-americanism, nor it felt like it boosted up their skills. In fact, the way Takeru looked at them from an outsiders point of of view, it showed how silly they actually were, focusing in fighting against each other when the big enemy was outside. Also, you mentioned pseudo-science, but I thought it was pretty cool that Yoshimune put effort to make the science in muv luv to be more believable. As I'm in no position to talk about quantum physics, I'll refrain to call it pseudo-science, though. The "feelings" part, I agree that it screwed up many aspects of MLA, but it felt more like it dragged things, rather than ruining them. The action moments made up for it, mainly because you could see that there was effort invested into making the operations and missions more interesting by adding plenty of details on how they would work. The ending was pretty bad, yeah, but I don't think there was any other way out of it. How else would you deal with almost everyone dead?

>>12171877
Main series is probably worth reading if it's a genre you like.
Side stories and fan discs vary from shit to great.

>>12171943
>How else would you deal with almost everyone dead?
Honestly, cutting out the last part of the epilogue would have probably been a good starting point.

>>12171942
Yep, it was the location. Thanks.

>>12171943
>How else would you deal with almost everyone dead?
Just keep them dead, bullshit some retarded science so Takeru stays in that universe and the rest writes itself.

>>12171943
>it never struck me as anti-americanism
America was basically presented as being the mastermind behind every set-back in the plot, all to serve their greed and self-interests. I consider myself fairly anti-American, but that was just blatant, honestly.

>nor it felt like it boosted up their skills
I was talking about the series' setting. In Total Eclipse, an otherwise shitty Japanese-American pilot who rejects his Japanese heritage suddenly becomes Mecha Jesus when he comes to terms with it. Not to mention, that, come on, even Fagiri gets the war hero treatment despite being a total tool in the story. And that's handwaved away because he was allegedly "showing true Japanese spirit" or some shit.

>As I'm in no position to talk about quantum physics, I'll refrain to call it pseudo-science
Trust me, it was totally pseudo-science, if only a notch above using Schrodinger's Cat to misrepresent the Copenhagen interpretation. At least I will give them credit for that.

>How else would you deal with almost everyone dead?
Well, first I'd spoiler that. Basically any ending except that one would've been better. Hitting reset just threw out any gravity associated with those sacrifices; it essentially took away all meaning to the drama that played out during the last mission. I think having Takeru grimly live on in the Alternative timeline or even having him keep his memories in the new one would have been preferable. Besides, worse still is that Takeru actually reverts to his asshole younger self instead of at least keeping some of the maturity he gained during the course of the story.

>>12171980
>even Fagiri gets the war hero treatment
Hang on a second. He fucked up everything in Alternative by being a hyper-Imperialist twat. I don't remember anything about him getting a war hero treatment, everyone condemned him and his actions while Walken gets the war hero treatment. Hell, it's implied Walken's team's mechs were tampered with, and one of the Chronicles side stories has Walken facing off against Sagiri under different circumstances and wiping the floor with his ass.

If it was supposed to be anti-American, Walken would've been a shithead who got half his team killed. The whole point of that arc is that it's the people sitting back in their ivory towers giving orders that are the "bad guys" who get the frontline soldiers killed. America comes off poorly as a government, but the actual Americans we see are for the most part decent folk. Which is a pretty common portrayal of any country: the gov't are heartless assholes but the people are good people.

>worse still is that Takeru actually reverts to his asshole younger self
Why do people keep saying this? Alt Takeru is dead. You're told straight up Alt Takeru is made up of bits and pieces of all the Takerus Sumika managed to summon up (which yes that is a retarded plot point and the major one I have issues with) and when she dies, there's nothing holding him together. The Takeru you see in the epilogue is some other world's Takeru catching a few of the pieces of Alt Takeru that got scattered.

>>12172023
>everyone condemned him and his actions
Nope. Fagiri was celebrated as a patriot whose actions initiated the cabinet reform and restored power to the Shogunate. Even Takeru considered him a heroic figure and regularly included him when thinking about all the inspirational people he'd met so far.

Yeah, Walken was the one good American character, but you'll note that his squad is entirely comprised of refugees and it's explicitly stated that America is the kind of country that forces refugees to fight on the front lines while the citizens sit back where it's safe. I don't see how a single sympathetic character is somehow an argument against the anti-American tone of the story.

>Alt Takeru is dead.
You're straight up told that he's not. In fact, Kasumi even tells him she'll keep watching over him after he returns to the world in which he belongs. His interactions with Kasumi in the new timeline even suggest that he's not just any old Takeru, but THE Captain Multiverse himself.

why all the amerifatzens are such faggots, geez

>>12172072
>I don't see how a single sympathetic character is somehow an argument against the anti-American tone of the story.
Because for all we're told about how the Americans are all assholes the only American we actually meet is a good guy. It seemed pretty clear to me they were condemning the people making the policies, not the entire population. And I say this as a Canadian, and we know what they did there.

On top of that, the Japanese government is shown to do all kinds of idiotic things as well and constantly blocking the UN's efforts. Again, I thought it was a clear condemnation of bureaucracy and politicians miles away from the trenches making the decisions. Not the most original theme, but you almost can't find a single war story that doesn't touch on that.

>You're straight up told that he's not.
It's been a few years since I read Alt so it's quite possible my memories have warped since then, but I'm going to have to ask for some proof. Kasumi is the same, yeah, but his reaction on meeting her can be easily explained by the fragments of his memories and personality seeking out the other worlds' Takerus, something Yuuko already said happens thanks do causality conductor.

If you can back that up I'd be glad to step down, as I said it's been some years since I finished and I've never had a good memory to begin with; but I was pretty sure about this point.

>>12172113
Your definition of "anti-Americanism" seems to only encapsulate discrimination against individuals, whereas I subscribe to a broader interpretation that includes the American establishment itself. The plot never fails to present America as a self-centered nation solely looking out for number one, diametrically opposite to Japan, almost alone in shouldering the salvation of humanity. During Operation Ouka, the UN commits 100% of its orbital dive divisions, and America, 80%. Takeru then immediately notes that America does this solely because, with the UN troops gone, they can dominate low-orbital space with only 20% of their troops while still manipulating public opinion. As opposed to say, because this is mankind's last-ditch effort at survival. The American troops also aren't there to defend mankind, they're there to secure rare elements for American corporations to monopolize. This characterization of the US is ubiquitous in all Muv-Luv media. It's pretty cringe-worthy.

>the Japanese government is shown to do all kinds of idiotic things as well and constantly blocking the UN's efforts
I can't think of a single instance where this is the case, apart from the coup d'état arc. For the most part, the Imperial Army are shown to be willing bushido samurai who bravely spill their blood to defend mankind.

In all seriousness though, I can't think of any passages wherein the IJA acts in self-interest when it directly opposes humanity's interest.

>I'm going to have to ask for some proof
As with you, it's been years since I last touched Alternative. I might reinstall it this summer and skim through the last bit again.

Regardless, actually I'm Canadian too, and I don't particularly care all that much about the anti-American thing. Kind of an odd thing to say after having typed this much, yeah, but having a single nation so blatantly targeted was one of the things that bugged me about Muv-Luv.

I found a major spoiler in one of the sample screenshots of a certain VN's VNDB article. Is there a particular thread where I should report it?

>>12172189
Well, I'd be lying if I said I didn't notice any anti-American sentiment, but for whatever reason it didn't bother me so much. I won't even get into Total Eclipse because most of that is cringe-worthy and I'd prefer it didn't even exist, it's like some unholy mix of Starship Troopers and Top Gun that takes itself deadly seriously.

As for the philosophy stuff, I tend to think of patriotism as an unneeded Us vs. Them tool at best so it's very easy for me to separate people and country. I mean, America of 7 or 8 years ago had this global image of stuffing their fingers in every Middle-Eastern pie they could find for whatever self-interested reasons, but I'd talk to any number of people and they'd be strongly against the actions the country was doing. I can't think of a country as a united whole of one mind.

So, guess it's just perspective. If you want to leave off here that's fine by me, I don't really have much more to add nor any desire to argue. Nice to not have this devolve into an internet fight, though.

>>12172220
No, but you can tell me.

>>12172220
Edit, delete and explain why you deleted it.

>>12172224
>>12172225
I'd do it, but I have to leave until tomorrow, and the sooner the spoiler is removed, the less people will be spoiled.
http://vndb.org/v14014, second screenshot from the left (the one with the stabbing.
It's not immediately obvious, but it spoils the second most important question of the plot.

>>12172238
I'll delete it then, it breaks one of the guidelines anyway.

>>12172238
Editing guidelines say you can't put only CGs without text or user interface, you could remove all the screenshots if you wanted.

>>12172249
Hi leinne. Why did you choose to keep your votes hidden?

>>12172223
Alright, let's just end it here then.

I realize now why it bothered me though. Throughout the entire story, America is being set up as almost the primary antagonist of the story, whereas the BETA, seemingly lacking in intelligence, self-awareness, and any form of agency, are more akin to a force of nature than a true enemy. The problem is that this set-up is then never resolved through the plot, making this entire build-up appear vaguely pointless. Basically, it feels as if the whole anti-America subplot was created out of the author's spite, rather than for any actual story-relevant reasons.

>>12172256
I haven't updated the list for a year or two? and most of them would probably be changed anyway.
I mostly use vndb to add/remove stuff if I notice it, like port additions and stuff.

Finished Majo Koi Nikki.

It was good but I still like Hatsuyuki Sakura more.
The story was interesting but all the time jumping made it hard to follow. I know it was needed to set up the big twist but it ended up making the story feel really disconnected.
I have to say that I liked the characters in this more than the ones in Hatsuyuki though. Alice was especially cute. I didn't even care about her ero scenes, I just wanted to watch her being cute.

Also they should have made the existence of the 2nd ending more obvious. If I wasn't using a walkthrough I probably would have missed it.

>>12172258
Thanks for contributing.

>>12172258
I'm the same way, plus a lot of the votes were from when I was still an EOP and I'm not really sure they were fair votes, especially when it comes to stuff like Cross Channel. Really, I should just delete them all. Simple numeric scores without a review or anything to accompany them are stupid anyway.

>>12172257
I can agree with that, the west pulls that shit all the time with stuff like zombie movies, making sure they hammer in the real message of HUMANS ARE THE REAL MONSTERS, completely overshadowing the actual antagonists who are plenty antagonist enough on their own. Like the stakes are never high enough that they can't be upped by making humans turn on each other. But yeah.

>>12172274
I like my EGS list though, even if half of it is just for myself and see my moon progress, which has little point by now, but still.

>>12172268
How much did you like hatsuyuki? Because I found it ok and little else, the side routes killed my enthusiasm for it, a lot.
Does this at least address that problem?

>>12172274
Isn't there an option for you to add a small note by the side of the grade you give on vndb? Though I've only seen one user do that.

>>12172287
I disagree with him, while hatsusaku had a overall bigger twist and one good routes, as you said, it was such a letdown on side heroines. Regarding Majokoinikki I liked all the heroines and all of them had good routes, as far as the setting let them be, in my opinion.

Also I don't think the disconnected parts where a problem if you read in continuation, I've yet to finish it but I'm having no problems with the narration, it connects fluidly, at least in my mind.

>>12172274
Numeric scores are stupid even with a written review or something else accompanying them.

Everyone has a different point of reference to what each number means anyway.

What's the difference between the VN general on /jp/ and the VN general on /vg/?

>>12172302
Elite secret club vs gathering of proles.

>>12172302
We talk about VNs, they talk about Fate.

>>12172302
I tried writing a post specifying the differences but instead I'll just tell you that here you have discussion more focused on untranslated titles, and more detailed/longer posts, whereas there you have mostly translated titles discussion, people crying about how they don't can't read stuff yet, etc.

>>12172301
Well, this is why I always try to give round scores to VNs. I think it's kind of annoying when you have a bunch of shit like 9.9, 9.1, 9.3 just so people understand which one you liked more. Just give a 9.5 or a 9 already.

>>12172268
On a scale of, say, Strawberry Nauts to Kara no Shoujo, how depressing would you say the endings are, if you don't mind my asking?

No, I'm not that guy, and I don't need mega happy endings all the time. I only ask because Natsuyume Nagisa left kind of a bad taste in my mouth, and if Majo Koi Nikki is similar I'll pass on it.

>>12171652
I just hope the rest of her route isn't nearly as lewd as the beginning of it.
I'm not sure my dick can take it.

>>12172328
Quite lewd and very moe, then plot comes and shits itself quite badly compared to other routes, basically the last hour or two, which is a shame because she's great.
I guess it's better if you haven't read other routes yet, because it's pretty indodump-y and redundant otherwise.

That said, I like that all the routes address in some way or another, even if it's just a passing mention, the more general problems, especially the ones related to Ouka because it'd be kinda cruel not to.

>>12172287
I rated hatsuyuki at 8.5 and I'd probably rate majokoi just a little below it. It's hard to say if you'll like it or not without a little more information on why you didn't like the side routes. You can just try reading the trial if you're not sure if you want to read it or not.

>>12172294
It felt really disconnected to me not only because of the frequent time jumping but because of how the routes worked in this game. Most games normally do something where you start with the common route and then branch off into the side character routes but this went something like:
[alice story] -> [side char story] -> [alice story] -> [side char story] -> (repeat)

>>12172320
It's definitely not a completely happy end but it's not as depressing as Natsuyume Nagisa either. I usually avoid depressing games too but I was mostly okay with this. I do feel like I want to go play a happy mindless moege now though.

>>12171652
At first I didn't take a look what's behind the text box and wondered what the hell is this anon talking about. Then I started reading and noticed it while reading last characters.

Holy fuck, I'm so slow.

>>12172339
I've more or less been control skipping through any of the scenes where the real magic gets brought up because I just can't bring myself to care.
I don't play Clochette games for the terrible chuuni elements they shoe in afterall.

>>12172353
It's honestly decent in Anon/Ouka routes, because it makes them fun to read together with the battles and weren't too obtrusive since they focused more on honohime and stuff, but Yuria just goes on and on about the game and how it works after a certain point.

>>12172341
Sorry, but all the transitions were well executed in important parts of the history, and sincerely I don't get how you can get lost between them unless you aren't paying attention, neither what you expected in comparing this game with a normal route game, where it was clear, since the beginning, that Arisu was the reader of the history and the history were already in x loop.

>>12172341
>It's definitely not a completely happy end but it's not as depressing as Natsuyume Nagisa either. I usually avoid depressing games too but I was mostly okay with this. I do feel like I want to go play a happy mindless moege now though.
Thanks. I might add it to my backlog, then.

So far Majikoi = Natsuyume >>>> Hatsuyuki for me.

Honestly I thought Hatsuyuki was kind of weak.

>>12172362
I didn't get lost between them. Like I said, it just feels disconnected. You're reading the story of one girl and then it switches to a story for a different girl and then resumes the previous story and then etc, etc.
I would have preferred it if they did something like start with alice's story, and then all of the other character's stories back to back and then finally resume and end with alice's story.

>>12172376
I disagree with you, the way it was executed it was way better than a boring linear path split until the "true" route.

>>12172376
I thought it was nice because it left you wondering what was actually going on.

>>12172371
I liked Majikoi too, but I think you mean Majokoi.

>>12172357
Just started playing it. What do you think is the best route order plotwise?

Why the hell does this pose make my dick so damn hard? I'm not even into chubbies.
I'm also impressed by the MC not having attacked her in all those years.

>>12172598
>not having attacked her in all those years.
That's the normal thing to do between brothers and sisters.

>>12172600
Not in my Chinese powerpoints.

>>12172604
It's the norm in your chinese powerpoints, unless you want a used goods 'I didn't take her virginity in real time' imouto whore.

>>12172605
>imouto whore
Is this even possible? The sun shines, grass grows, birds fly, and imoutos are pure. That's a law of nature.

>>12172600
It's not like she would really be against it. She has always been saying that she would accept anything MC does to her...

>>12172611
Common story in nukige.

>>12172614
She says so, but she doesn't start going dokidoki till her route. Doesn't know about sex either.

>>12172621
She catches on pretty damn quickly.

>>12172622
That she does, but like all girls in eroge, some I swear suck and take dick before their first kiss, in moege.

>>12172624
They do research using ero journals and train on bananas to please the MC.

>>12172624
>I learned how from reading those magazines under your bed, Anon-onii-chan~
I don't remember leaving my step-by-step blowjob instruction manuals under there, those are in the closet.

>>12172624
Some in fact actually do suck and take dick before their first kiss.

>>12172631

>>12172633

She's a foreigner, that means she's a default eroge-slut.

>>12172631
At least in Noble Works I think it was they used the internet for that.

>>12172631
I always make sure to include a few blowjob tutorial DVDs.

>>12172637
Oh yeah, Sena had lots of fun with it, at least she rehearsed properly.

>>12172634
I was so disappointed when I realized I'd misread the kanji labels on his boxes. I thought at first glance they were エロ and 罪エロ.

>>12172647

Well, it's kind of hard to read. 非, I guess?

>>12172647

Oh, the yuri route in sakuoto isn't a patch but a standalone extra?

I almost wish that the 催眠術Re protagonist gets NTR'd, seeing how tremendously moronic he is.

>>12172664
It's hypnosis, going fullretard is fun.

Did anyone has read キサラギGOLD★STAR here? I just finished Majokoi (I have finished Nagisa & Hatsuyuki Sakura as well) and thought that I'd complete all of that guy's games, but this seems like pretty normal moege for me. Is there any hidden something in there or should i expect a normal moege after all?

>>12172672

Well, it's almost like in some cheap horror movie where you feel the strong urge to yell at the screen because you know the retarded actions they take will get them into serious trouble.

Ririko gives me heart problems, she's so goddamn moe at all times.
I'm special... because I was born as onii-chan's beloved imouto. So good, so, so good.

>>12172818
Clochette imoutos are too derelewd for my heart.

>>12172825
It's a fantastic balance of dere and lewd all imoutos should have, even the tsundere imoutos.

>>12172818

I really liked the accidental vagina flash. Though I had to ask myself it it really was that accidental considering how she has the hots for oniichan. Anyway, way better than the trite panty flash.

>>12172833
It was, the non-accidental comes later.

>>12172825
It might be a tad early to throw this opinion out considering I've only played their latest 3 games, but Clochette's cast of heroines just seems to get better with every new game they release

>>12172865
I haven't played Prism Recollection so I can't speak for that, but Sakigake is almost exactly Kamikaze except better. Atsumori is basically the wish-fulfillment bro character perfected.

>>12172865
>>12172874
I always wanted to play this game... But is too lewd for me.

>>12172865
I think the characters in generation are awesome, they play off each other really well and Atsumori is funny as fuck. I'm probably super biased since I've played a shitload of MMOs though.

>>12172883
Just cover your eyes dude

>>12172865
>>12172874
I thought Prism Recollection's cast ended up being wasted potential. The characters themselves didn't seem bad, but the game failed to make them grab my attention. By all rights, Aina should have tickled my fancy quite hard, but somehow I ended up not caring as much as I thought I would. The porn was still pretty good, though.

Sakigake Generation is a lot better in that regard. Natsume stands out as the weakest link, but the rest of the cast is very likable.

>>12172874
My main issue with Kamikaze was that i only found 3 out of the 5 heroines interesting and sadly only Misho had a good route. Misho alone made the game worth playing so i'm not going to complain about Kamikaze that much.

Pricolle was much better on the heroine front despite having 1 less heroine than the previous title. The issues with Pricolle were around it's plot and setting, all of the 4 routes tied together and made playing the new routes rather boring when you know how it's going to resolve regardless. They seemed to get side characters down pat in this release although, shame that some of those side character girls were better than the heroines themselves.

Sofar I'm still in the common route for Sakigen but i can already say from what I've seen that the cast of heroines are better than the previous 2 titles (excluding Aina, Hinano and Mishio but it's too early to say if that holds true to the end). The setting is also much more enjoyable than Espers and Super computers and Atsumori is just a better version (if not an ideal version) of Izumi and Kouhei. The side character girls are from what i have seen sofar have lowered in quality since Pricolle but if that is the cost for the improvements on the heroines so be it.

Side note: Ouka = Ririko > Yuria = Anon > Natsumi

>>12172926
I've done Ouka's route, now in Natsume's, and so far I agree completely with your ranking.

>>12172926
>Side note: Ouka = Ririko > Yuria = Anon > Natsumi

I can agree on that.

I feel like if you removed Natsume from Sakigake Generation that there'd be basically the removal of a handful of scenes and nothing else would be affected, she feels like she's just sort of there.

>>12172939
She is good at being the butt of the joke at least

Is the plot in Sakigen really so in the way that I'm going to want to use cruise control often? I think I have an easier time dropping something than skipping large sections of it, even though I don't like doing either.

>>12172943
Anon is better at that. Or even Ouka, if it comes to love.

>>12172926
Kotoha was really useless meat all around, and her route was a whole lot of angst for a whole lot of nothing. Misho made up for that, though I would've gladly traded Kotoha and Fuuka's routes for Patches and Mittens routes.

Wijen's just, well, fun. I'm getting exactly what I expected and the only parts making me roll my eyes or reach for the ctrl key are the magic infodumps.

>>12172939
>she feels like she's just sort of there
Same here. She doesn't even seem to have anything to do with the main plot, unless that changes in her route.

She also suffers from that "Heroine attached to side character I'd like to fuck" syndrome.

>>12172949
I think Yuria is the best at being the butt of the joke, with Anon taking second place. Ririko is just great at setting them both up to fail

>>12172952
>I would've gladly traded Kotoha and Fuuka's routes for Patches and Mittens routes.

Agreed. Well at least she was attractive useless meat which is less than i could say for Fuuka or Saori.

>>12172954
Ah, Aina had a bad case of that as well. Veronica not having a route was just a waste; at least Aina made up for it with her Character, Natsumi seems to be failing at that badly however

Whats a good vn to play during the summer months?

>>12172954
I feel that she'd be a good character in a different game, but all the other girls have strong personalities while she, as the other guy said, is just sort of there.

>>12172911
Prism had a great imouto, I think. She's a total pervert.

>>12173012
Ririko is a improved version of her

>>12173000
I'm not sure I even want to bother with her route, honestly. It's somehow the longest one in the game, and the only real plot thread for her in the common route is "my parents are opposed to video games" which sounds dreary as fuck.

>>12172865
mage a shit.

Meele dps best roles.

>>12173012
Clochette knows how to imouto

>>12173074
Her route has incredibly boring compared to Ouka's so far, I'm glad I'm patient or I would've dropped this. I just hope she doesn't have a long distance relationship end like the studious types usually do(which is why I prefer the retards in my porn games).

I don't even like short hair, fuck.

>>12173138
Being in the more annoying part of Natsuno Koori's range isn't doing her any favors either.

>>12172964
Hey I like Fuuka and Saori.

Seiyuu bias though.

>>12172072
Takeru is not an intelligent protagonist. He thinks a lot of things that are blatantly retarded throughout the entire story. I'm pretty sure somewhere in there it's pointed out how blatantly he was played in the entire situation and that his accomplishments were practically accidental.

Then again this happened when Aquila 1 was in his voting group. Think he may have had more votes than Haruka too, I don't remember but that's probably because it pissed me off.

>>12171980
>In Total Eclipse, an otherwise shitty Japanese-American pilot who rejects his Japanese heritage suddenly becomes Mecha Jesus when he comes to terms with it.
Yuuya is established as highly skilled at the start of the story, just a stubborn bastard that won't do his job properly.

Americans get off way better than Soviets and East Germans. The US might be looking out for themselves but the communists are actively backstabbing each other for power even as they lose all their land.

>>12173294
What I disliked the most about Takeru is how he had this huge inferiority complex and always looked down on himself when he was an actually skilled pilot. It's like even if everyone around him praised him, he looked at himself and kept saying "everyone is probably just being nice to me, I'm still shit".

>>12173103
That sprite brings me some good memories, only MMO I ever really got into. Atsumori is right though, tanks are the best.

>>12173300
Japanese people are supposed to act as humble as possible when being praised. It's a big part of their culture.

>>12173309
That's one of the parts of their culture that annoys me the most.

>>12173300
I think there's a disconnect there because he's supposed to be super amazing from all his experience and stuff but the characterization ends up being a continuation of the useless high school kid who oohs and aahs at real battle experienced soldiers.

>>12173294
Yes, but Takeru was pointed out to be a dumbass from the start of Extra. His character development from retarded dense harem protag to humanity's last hope is probably the best part of MLA, at least for me. I know everyone rags on him for "taking too long to 'get it'" or constantly falling back to his old, cowardly, paralyzed by indecision self, but fuck, that's how people work.

He doesn't have that ANIKI I UNDERSTAND NOW anime moment where his character does a complete 180 without ever falling back and people treat him like a useless failure. For all the unrealistic, pseudo-scientific shit that MLA pulled, Takeru's development was at least very realistic and down-to-earth.

>>12173294
The fact that Haruka was even in the poll at all was a huge slap in the face, especially considering KimiNozo is probably the best single title age has ever made.
Far better than anything they've released post-Alternative anyway, and miles better than this TE shit they keep vomiting out.

>>12173300
That's not how I interpret it at all. Did you read Muv-Luv Unlimited? People around him were praising him as naturally talented and a born prodigy. He felt guilty about having to mislead them like that, because in truth, he was originally a miserable failure who dragged everyone down. He just had two extra years of training to compensate for it.

Numerous times in the story, he gives advice to the other cadets, only to sardonically think to himself that it was advice the very same people originally gave him as they profusely thank him and praise him for his wisdom.

>>12173331
I'm thinking more of the parts where he does really cool shit with his STF, like when those betas showed up in the middle of training, or when he kills a fuckton of betas in that island invasion, yet he still thinks he's a random guy, when he's actually far superior than most of the soldiers around him. It annoyed me because he simply looked down on himself even though he clearly helped a lot people around him, even though he had previous experience.

>>12173317
Thing is, what experience? In Unlimited, he spends all his time in the rear, training for a battle that never comes. He openly admits that he has zero combat experience. In fact, the first time he ever sees a live BETA is in Alternative. Basically, there was nothing soldier-like about Unlimited Takeru other than his physique.

>>12173339
>like when those betas showed up in the middle of training
Yeah, he was freaking the fuck out, pissing his pants, ignoring orders and making the rest of his squad worry about him, potentially putting them all in danger. What he denies is people calling him some kind of hero holding off the BETA on his own without any weapons as if it were an insurmountably brave act of self-sacrifice, so I don't think it has anything to do with an inferiority complex. Maybe a bit of humility, but that's it.

>he kills a fuckton of betas in that island invasion
He doesn't seem to look down on himself for that. In fact, he clearly has ample confidence in his piloting skills when he suggests holding off the BETA on his own. He even says something to the effect of "I'm the only one in the squad skilled enough for the task".

>>12173320
It is, but they're sort of consistent about it. Only TE and TDA main girls are guaranteed.

Entire thing is a bit of a poop show, for February they ended up putting all the finalists in the winner's image because Sakon Yoroi winning was stupid, April ended up with all male finalists against any particular reason, and for May they crammed all the dudes in one group so only one could make it, making it ridiculously stacked.

>>12173340
Takeru does take part in the post G-bomb fighting according to the Unlimited endings let alone anything else he just doesn't remember it for various story reasons.

>>12173355
>Takeru does take part in the post G-bomb fighting according to the Unlimited endings let alone anything else he just doesn't remember it for various story reasons.
Yeah, I know. I just didn't want to get too pedantic about it. Regardless, for plot purposes, not remembering it is basically the same as having no experience.

>>12172952
>>12172964
B-but Fuuka was so cute.

Honestly, when I first saw her in screenshots, I thought she was the cutest thing I'd ever seen in a VN. I read Kamikaze Explorer solely for her. Maybe my taste is just weird, though.

>>12173377
Hi Saya. Nice to see you're keeping up the moon studies.

>>12173384
How the fuck? This isn't the /vg/ thread, is it?

>>12173384
>>12173388
Epic surprise boxes, fags. No surprise to hear you're from /vg/.

>>12173388
You aren't the only one who graduated.

>>12173398
How is Sakigake Generation compared to Kamikaze Explorer, anyway? The character designs seem closer to Kamikaze Explorer than Prism Recollection, but with the game being 7 GB, I'm not in any hurry to get it just because of that.

>>12171943
>The "feelings" part, I agree that it screwed up many aspects of MLA, but it felt more like it dragged things, rather than ruining them.
I'd say it ruined a lot. In one of the final scenes of the game, Takeru actually attempts to engage in a full-blown conversation with Meiya about his emotions as the latter is in her death throes screaming for him to kill her. It got so out of hand that I actually laughing at his insistence to try to talk things over, completely draining the scene of all gravitas.

>>12173420
More fun, better heroines, less painfully bad plot, better porn, better bro character. Even the music has some decent tracks instead of generic placeholder shit.

If you have any interest in video games, tits, or a cheap laugh or two, it's worth 7GB.

>>12173420
see >>12172926

>>12173420
I think it's around the same, maybe better. Your mileage may vary.

>>12173339
Sounds like a case of an impostor syndrome. Wiki says 40% of succesful people are affected, and 70% have those moments from time to time. Doesn't look too unusual for him to be like that to me.

It was almost physically painful to read the epilogue (?) where narrates how Takumi saw Arisu dementia

The infinity series (ever17 etc.) is now free from magino drive. Lasts a few more days:

http://visualnovelaer.fuwanovel.org/2014/05/japanese-infinity-series-ever17-etc-vns-free-download-from-magino-drive/

I finished sakigene (all the routes barring natsume which I didn't want to do). Overall I'd rank them
Anon=Ririko>Ouka>>Yuria
Anon had the best games related plot and was really cute and fun throughout her route and Ririko was best girl with best icha icha. Ouka was very good in these regards too, but not as good. Overall I greatly enjoyed these three routes.
Yuria was great too, best confession scene of the game hands down, but halfway through turned meh/bad fast and never recovered.
Anyway overall it was pretty great, loveable heroines, great bro character, good character interactions, really moe and good to great production values, some h-scenes were hot as fuck too.

Ririko stayed best throughout, that was great.

>>12172708
It's probably the weakest among the three games(Hatsuyuki,Nagisa) in terms of story, so you shouldn't expect too much from it. It's still a bit more enjoyable compared to your normal eroge, but except for the fun songs, there's really not much that stands out from it.

>>12172604
Go force your stupid meme somewhere else. I bet you'd be a big hit on /a/.

>>12174495
>replying to a more than half a day old post

>>12174495

Exactly how new are you?

Just finished WA2 coda fter putting it off for a few months, and holy shit what a ride that was.

First route I did was the adultery route, and it pretty much felt like a nukige with some drama. The drama was good however, and the orchestra scene at the end was done brilliantly.

Setsuna route was boring. It climaxed very early in the route, and the rest of it was just random SoL. I felt it lacked what makes WA2 good - the drama. Also, it is the ultimate fairy tale end where Haruki "sacrifices" himself to make everyone happy.

Kazusa route was kinda amazing throughout. Absolutely brutal, yet at times beautiful. Contrast here to Setsuna route where Haruki goes for what he truly desires. And I remember some earlier foreshadowing by Youko where she said that Haruki would have to throw aside everything if he really wants Kazusa, and that he did!
The situation with Setsuna and her family was bad enough, but what also hit pretty hard was Takeya. His bro stuck up for him throughout everything, and he was left in tears as Haruki turns his back on him. Also, this seems the one time (other than Mari end in CC where Haruki actually mans the fuck up and decides to do something about his life himself. Granted, it's really late and screwing everyone over could have been avoided if he did that a few years ago.
One thing that wasn;t very clear (or I missed) is what happened to Setsuna at the end after the accident. She seemed to be suffering from a concussion or something the last time she met Haruki. Plus, the ending song with everyone and the whole Setsuna-day makes me think so. Or it might just be that she's still emotionally scarred.

Also, what would you consider the true route? I'm thinking Kazusa given that it sticks true to the themes of the VN, but Setsuna's route had all those ending CG. I suppose the anime may clear it up.

>>12174559
look the name of the endings musics

Could anybody please give me a hint about this joke or what it is. What is an empty bag has to do with "Fight!"? Internet told me that 捨てて来い is something about Commando.

>>12174639

Is it really that hard? They use "fight" like 頑張って.

>>12174639
>捨てて来い is something about Commando.

On a second thought, maybe you should learn Japanese before reading games.

WITCH'S GARDEN BLOG EDITION WHATEVER

Man, Ririko's H-scenes could have been SO MUCH BETTER. I mean, here you have two partners that practice as extremely physically demanding task. They're in constant close contact with each other's bodies. They have to be flawlessly in tune with each other at all times. They're both sporty and supposedly well built.

It was the perfect chance for a buildup staring me right in the face. You have the slow build-up of the sexual tension during the practice scenes, every once in a while someone cops an accidental feel and they have to rein in their passion.

And then, when they finally get to fuck, it starts slow but then when they get into it they release everything that's been building up, they put all the muscles they've been building into it. They go at it like animals, building shaking stuff, and it'd be a release for the reader as well. I would have cum so many buckets. But no, instead we have this flat boring prototypical japanese-type 'gentle'(AKA rapey) sex with the submissive woman, completely disconnected from the rest of the story. God damn it, if you have to shove sex scenes into your story for reader expectation reasons at least try your best to make them hot.

>>12174652
More than half a year old pasta. You could have at least finished it.

>>12174582
I think Setsuna's ended with Toki no Mahou.
And Kazusa's I know was "Closing" with Powder Snow in the epilogue.
It can't be that obvious, can it?

>>12174651
How stupid of me, she's just saying to go and throw it away... right?
If not I guess I'll just go studying Japanese more

>>12174690
Yeah, something like that.
She passes him that bag and goes like "Do it, man!" And he thinks that if she has just wanted him to throw it away that would be kinda sad.

>>12174672

I wanted to withhold judgement on Memoria until reading up on the original, so I recently went through the novelisation of the first one (戦女神小説版).

As I already suspected, everything that was decent about the plot, all good lines et al were already there, while most of the inane, boring, tedious and otherwise unpleasant stuff was only added in the remake. There were admittedly a few interesting background tidbits fleshed out in Memoria, but in turn, some matters that were explained in the original were just taken for granted and hardly acknowledged in the remake.
Presumably out of gameplay considerations, the storyline was also altered in such a way that the "morale of the story" was wholly different in Memoria (i.e.: muh nakama, when IM1 was originally about one man acting largely by himself). Worst of all were the changed characterisations and thus changed character interactions. To name a few, Roca has been turned from an enigma of few words into Luna=Clear v2, as if v1 wasn't bad enough already; Sully lost practically all her relevance as a heroine, Lou is now the most generic tsundere imaginable and Celica, hardest hit of all, had his yasashii and donkan attributes raised by 100% to the point where he is just an insufferable goody two shoes. In general, Memoria tries to aim for a Tayuuta/Kamidori atmosphere and really wants to make you care for the obnoxious residents of that outback town, which doesn't really work since the original simply has its fair share of grim moments, which were either terribly executed or outright cut (unlike in IM1, you simply cannot refuse or stall certain requests, which makes the game much more linear and thereby removes certain darker moments).

Overall, it's truly disappointing how this remake ended up, and it is a shame that IM1 will now never be redone in a more deserving way. One can only hope IM2 won't be butchered next.

I wanted to withhold judgement on Memoria until reading up on the original, so I recently went through the novelisation of the first one (戦女神小説版).

As I already suspected, everything that was decent about the plot, all good lines et al were already there, while most of the inane, boring, tedious and otherwise unpleasant stuff was only added in the remake. There were admittedly a few interesting background tidbits fleshed out in Memoria, but in turn, some matters that were explained in the original were just taken for granted and hardly acknowledged in the remake.

Presumably out of gameplay considerations, the storyline was also altered in such a way that the "morale of the story" was wholly different in Memoria (i.e.: muh nakama, when IM1 was originally about one man acting largely by himself). Worst of all were the changed characterisations and thus changed character interactions. To name a few, Roca has been turned from an enigma of few words into Luna=Clear v2, as if v1 wasn't bad enough already; Sully lost practically all her relevance as a heroine, Lou is now the most generic tsundere imaginable and Celica, hardest hit of all, had his yasashii and donkan attributes raised by 100% to the point where he is just an insufferable goody two shoes.

In general, Memoria tries to aim for a Tayuuta/Kamidori atmosphere and really wants to make you care for the obnoxious residents of that outback town, which doesn't really work since the original simply has its fair share of grim moments, which were either terribly executed or outright cut (unlike in IM1, you simply cannot refuse or stall certain requests, which makes the game much more linear and thereby removes certain darker moments).

Overall, it's truly disappointing how this remake ended up, and it is a shame that IM1 will now never be redone in a more deserving way. One can only hope IM2 won't be butchered next.

>>12174787
I for one, hope they butcher it. This series doesn't deserve to live anymore

>>12174787
Do you think it's worthy to just play the original then?

is there any NTR in WA2?

>>12174927
There was in the anime, so I assume so.

>>12174927
No

>>12174927
If you are Setsuna, it's basically the whole novel.

>>12174936
ahh,zannen T.T
kinda looking for good fucked up ntr which isn't nukige.anyone can recommend me?
after playing kimi kano no koi i've been seeking for this type of vn,but apparently japs otaku don't like if their waifu cheat

>>12174942
Didn't doukyuusei 2 have NTR?

>>12174942
I only know the kiss x x00 series has heroines that will get pissed off and go fuck other men but that's only if you don't choose their routes so I don't think that's very helpful to you.

>>12174942
>zannen T.T
Fuck off to whatever shithole you came from.

>>12174948
i dislike old art.i know i am hard to please>>12174951
yeah,its a nukige.i prefer that the vn make me at least have an affection for the heroine ,not just as a sex object.so when the ntr happen i wil get the "feel".

>>12174981
why????

>>12174983
>so when the ntr happen i wil get the "feel".
You mean the feels, bro?

>>12175001
oh shut up

Who invited fhc's retarded child in here?

>>12174559
That true ending is quite obviously Kazusa's. WA2 as a whole would not make sense if it were Setsuna's since it pretty much goes against everything leading up to that point. Like you said, it fits from a thematic standpoint and what the 幸せの向こう側 is. It's the only route throughout WA2's entirety where Haruki is completely honest with himself and what he wants. It's also no coincidence that it's also the only route where we see his tachie. All those extra CGs in Setsuna's ending don't mean much in comparison. Her ending is full retard anyway, the characters lie throughout it and ignore persisting problems whereas Haruki and Kazusa are completely truthful to each other in Kazusa's route. Like 'closing' even says "あなたの心傷つけてでも/この気持ちに嘘はつけない". It took Haruki so long to be honest with himself because the sacrifice was just that great. It's no wonder everyone rejected him because choosing Kazusa meant going against Setsuna and a life of accepted happiness/normality.

In the ending with Setsuna singing she's coping very well. She was a wreck at the end of Kazusa's route but her sending a video to them is proof that she was able to get over her issues and move on with her life. She is no longer tied by the past, so Kazusa and Haruki shouldn't be either. At least, that's how I viewed it. Setsuna is unpredictable so who knows, really.

>>12175015
I'm pretty sure that the child wouldn't be his.

>>12175001
eh,are you correcting my grammar? well, pardon me if make some shitty grammar mistakes since i am not an english native and use google translate to post here.
well,i am expecting there is some ntr in wa2 since in wa1 anime there is scene when mc gf kiss her manager(?).

>>12175057
Expect what you like, you're the one who will be wasting 30 hours expecting NTR where it doesn't happen

>>12174846
Well, if this series continues its current path, then for all intents and purposes it is dead, to me at least. IMM did seem to sell a fair amount of copies though, unfortunately.

>>12174891
Yes, either the original game or the novelisation I mentioned. The original IM1 has some very iffy art, and while there are a load of good ideas in terms of mechanics, it does feel rather clunky overall. The novel has completely new art, either in stylised form or in the manner of IM2. Narration has been changed to third-person, and the H-scenes are voiced for whatever reason. Length is between 10 to 15 hours, probably the better choice for newcomers.

Memoria you can fully ignore, unless you're really desperate for more after you're finished with the rest. If you want to see that game's art at least, simply download a CG rip.

>>12175023
Just wanted to commend you for that witty remark, anon. Good one.

>>12175064
i tried to fap to the levia gang rape scene but really the male voices were just so ridiculous "rapey" over the top i ended up laughing instead

>>12175071
Even worse is the subplot with Alicia, where the rape is equally comedically voiced. How could anyone take any of the later following drama seriously when it springs out of such a hilarious scene?

>>12175062
thats why i asked first my dear sir.

>>12175085
They probably wanted to make it feel like a genuine rape but really not even a rapist would talk that comedic..

レッツ背徳！

>>12174787
> Sully
> Lou
Why the fuck are you using hongfire retarded machine translation names instead actual ones used in the game?

>>12175269
Literally using Yaya's catchphrase?

>>12175363
No, she doesn't

>>12175366
Good, that's reserved only for the best imouto.

>>12175377
>Implying

>>12175377
Best imoutos act like actual imoutos and don't lust after their onii-chans unless they are really fucked up.

>>12175387
But best imoutos are the ones that are really fucked up.

>>12172249
Thanks for that. I should get around to editing the tags on that page too, they're a complete mess.

>>12175387
Imouto love is the purest love.

>>12175387
>don't lust after their onii-chans

In what a sick world do you live.

twin imouto is the best.fucking alcot where is my threesome

Which route did the School Days anime follow?
I just made it to ep 5, is the VN as shit as the anime?
Most people say it's good but is it worth reading?

It just occured to me that I never really researched console VNs.

Yeah, I'll do an appropriate VNDB search, but perhaps you have some specific titles you liked and want to recommend?

Finished Natsume's route.
The route was painful to read at first, but got a lot better after she moved in to the Kaidou household, and even managed to be as interesting as Ouka's at the end(Ouka is still by far a better and cuter heroine).
What really made me feel weird was all the times the MC said or thought "that exactly the Natsunee I love" or something of the sort, because I couldn't sympathize with it at all.
At least now that the worst heroine is over with, it's all smooth sailing. I'm a little tired of the giant tits, so going in the other direction next.

>>12175454
A VN that's not an eroge is just a kusoge.

>>12175463
I was planning on skipping her route but that spoiler alone has enough merit to warrant a read

>>12175466
Always?

>>12175468
Seconded.

>>12175468
She just moves for a while, until her parent accept her gaming. That only happens at the end of the route though, and they're basically engaged by then, so it doesn't really matter.

>>12175463
That mom is hot

>>12175478
She's a gamer and widow too, waiting for the FD.

>>12175468
I couldn't care less about Natsume. Her VA tends to be awful too, except for a few good roles here and there.

>>12175443
First of all, the "VN" is totally animated, so there is no reading. The anime took bits and pieces from all the routes and merged them into one.

If you're going to play it and you already dislike School Days, you should probably follow a route guide. A lot of the middle-ground, not-happy or not-sad endings are rather dull and may not be worth your time, but I recommend you just watch the show and use the eroge for further entertainment if you enjoy it.

As far as the anime is concerned, it's a masterpiece from a storytelling and directing point of view, as it sets up incredibly well and has great pacing. Too bad it immerses people so much in the drama that they fail to realise they're hating on a plot that was actually trying to evoke such emotion.

It's a show you should love to hate.

>>12175573
Can't wait for Shiny Days!

>>12174501
This is an image board, not a chatroom, /vg/-kun. There's nothing wrong with responding to old posts.

>>12175574
Why would you wait for something that's been out for two years?

>>12175433

Anri and Anzu are lovely imoutos, I would let them sleep in my bed any day.

>>12175590
The translation, I mean...

>>12175593
Why do you need to wait for a translation?

>>12175596
So I can understand it, being a dirty non-moonspeaker and all.

Let's all point at him and laugh.

;_;

>>12175433
They should learn from Pulltop.

>>12175610
The common twin route is another one in clover days.

>>12175613
Oh there is a common twin route? I still haven't started it, so I assumed otherwise from the comment.

>>12175613

Are you referring to Hikaru and Hekiru? Because Anri/Anzu are both separate routes as far as I know.

>>12175622
That's why I said 'another one', Hikaru and Hekiru get eventually a threesome.

>>12175631

That is great news. I'm planning to save their route for last.

On a side note, this game is long as fuck.

>>12174559
>Also, what would you consider the true route?
Christmas cake route, obviously.

This route has started out great already. I was missing some of those classic accidents.

Speaking about threesomes and the games you mentioned, do they have the girls also kissing, feeling up and doing other lewd stuff to each other or is it the boring "get on top of each other and wait for protagonist to do everything, we only love the protagonist that way" type?

This is extremely important.

>>12175730
If you want some nice threesomes where everyone does everyone play Lovepotion 69.

>>12175735
>69
That better be an accurate title.

>>12175735
I'll be sure to check it out. Many thanks.

>>12175730
>"get on top of each other and wait for protagonist to do everything, we only love the protagonist that way" type
I hate that type, and I hate threesomes where the girls don't love each other (in a romantic way, not the generic friend/sister type). I'm not even a yurifag, in fact I don't really like plain girl/girl, but I need everyone to love everyone or else it feels like they're just settling for sharing the protag. Maybe I'd like harem if the girls actually loved each other.

>>12175730
Why were the twins the only decent characters in that game?

>>12175916
Have you read Harukuru? The common route is basically nothing but what you want.

>>12175735
I'm surprised they can even stand with those tiny legs.

>>12175938
It's not exactly a high budget game.

>>12175935
I'm reading that just now, and I wish there had been more group H scenes in it.

>>12175935
Yes, it was the only example that had the type of harem I like that I could think of from the ones I've played. It doesn't seem to be too common.

>>12175960
In the best way possible.

>>12175971
As I mentioned before, Lovepotion 69 is a perfect example. In fact, if you go for the blonde's route, the other 2 girls go full lesbian with each other.

>>12175974
>>12175976
Why is the writer such a westaboo? Don't get me wrong, it's great. But he's got a pretty raging hard-on for all things American.

Alright, you guys have convinced me. Downloading Lovepotion Sixtynine now.

Using other characters as your Devil/Angel mindset are we Ouka? This girl is adorable

>>12175987
Why is Natsume the angel?

>>12175989
Because she gives in so easily like the angel normally does in this type of joke

>>12175989
Ouka thinks she's pure, since she doesn't know how perverted Natsume gets if Kaidou ends up with her. As a matter of fact, so far all the girls have been incredibly perverted, and I see no reason for Anon or Ririko to be an exception(specially the later). I like this much more than the usual 恥ずかしい死んでしまいそう you see in other moege

>>12175993
Ririko's complete and utter lack of discretion is wonderful.

>>12175980
I see nothing wrong with this.

>>12175993
But Ririko is the purest.

Until her route starts, at least.

>>12176008
Not with that body she isn't.

I wonder if my life is still worth living.
Recommend me something, I guess.

>>12176019
I recommend >>>/vg/ or >>>/adv/.

>>12176019
Here's a recommendation.

>>12176021
>>12176023
y u so edgy

>>12176019
http://vndb.org/v1292

>>12176019

>>12176059
I enjoyed kangoku senkan ;_;

>>12176423
Is that the guy, who got hit by a truck and died?

anyone know what did i do wrong?can't get pass this error.

>>12176483
w-what

>>12176484
Yeah, you very likely need to set your PC's format and location to Japanese/Japan.

>>12176485
I think there was a tripfag on /v/ called KangokuSenkan. He posted with cropped faces from the VN. But then he disappeared and people started saying he got hit by a truck and died. It was few years ago.

Kinda surreal.

>>12176484
Set regional format to Japanese. Favorite games usually need that.

>>12176488
>>12176563
thanks,anon.its works

I'm playing Baldr Sky at the moment, and I'm getting real tired of having to read through entire scenes because of one fucking new line in it. Why can't the Japanese make decent engines for their porn games so that they are actually pleasant to read.

>>12177039
Nexas is one of the best VN engines there was at that time. Blame the people who made the VN for not utilizing their own engine properly.

>>12174559
I watched WA2 anime. Is there any point in playing the VN other than hscenes?
What I'm asking is, did the anime leave out any important or good parts?

>>12178098
Anime is only the introductory chapter.

>>12178098
From what I remember of IC, all the important plot points were covered.
However, IC is short. With CC they're likely to leave out quite a bit of stuff. And reading the VN is a completely different (and better) experience. So yeah, read it.

>>12178126
So, Coda is included in Closing Chapter, right?

>>12178185
Yeah, you get to it after Setsuna's Closing Chapter route.

>>12177039
Brace yourself for reminiscence. I've been going through it for literally days because I get tired after one hour or something.

Very interesting story.

Yuria route complete.
As people said, the route wasted too much time explaining stuff about the real world magic, when I just wanted more ichaicha. I feel it would be a good first route, but it just ended up repeating the same things I had seen in the previous routes.
As always, the heroine was incredibly perverted, which if by no way a bad thing. The confession scene was great, and all the H-scenes were hot, specially the last one(mainly because I like anal).
The ending was probably my favorite, being a cooler version of Natsume's.

With every route I finish, my desire to fuck Anon's sister gets bigger, which is pretty weird, considering I don't even like her archetype that much, and the design is almost equal to Anon's anyway.

>>12179017
JD is working his magic on her, Ayame will fall sooner or later, she's tsundere as fuck towards him.

I'm reading majokoi, really like it so far, especially the shoujo manga atmosphere it has from time to time, so cute. The storytelling is pretty original too and I dig it.

>>12179050
Post your reactions when you finish

About Sakigare, does the bro get a girl?

>>12179360
He doesn't need a girl when he has weights.

I'm somewhat new to this VN thing.
Is it normal that best girl routes are completely left out?

>>12179425

Yes.

>>12179425
You want what you can't have, which is why so often girls without routes are proclaimed the best.

>>12179425
Pretty much.

>>12179425
that's not kanako, and you can fuck her (and ageha together too) in the fd

>>12179438
dude that's you're cousin

gross

>>12179425
Half the time they're best girl because they don't get a route. The plot doesn't have to give them an awkwardly shoehorned drama-trauma combo or give her personality a complete 180 once she gets the MC dick.

God that last one makes me mad. That attitude she had all through the common route that attracted to her in the first place? Fuck that, she's now the exact opposite of that. Have fun~

>>12179446
But modern tsundere where she keeps flip-flopping is the worst archetype

>>12179438
But she's the only side character I didn't wish had a route.

>>12179446
>That attitude she had all through the common route that attracted to her in the first place? Fuck that, she's now the exact opposite of that. Have fun~
Stop that, you're making me mad.
I hate how every single girl regardless of personality has to turn into a blushing weak moeblob.

>>12179453
Nah, I mean stuff like the super genki girl ends up with ridiculously tragic backstory and spends most of the route moping about it, or rich arrogant ojou suddenly becomes a spineless moeblob, or strong independant gangster woman who don't need no man suddenly becomes a spineless moeblob, that sort of thing.

Reverse character development? Character regression? It's like the writers are fixated on the ideas that good characters need to have a hidden side to them, and also a character needs to be completely different at the end than they were at the start, and they just take those two things and carry them to the extreme.

>>12179461

Then play less moege.

>>12179455
I liked her more than the ane or childhood friend. On the other hand, Risa was better than her.

Is the NTR in 催眠術Re avoidable?

>>12179698
Yes. You can avoid it by not playing it.

>>12179698
I checked the CG set and most scenes were with the skinny nerd with the glasses so I doubt it.

>>12179698
Perfectly so, the main MC has the most sex scenes anyway.

Just started サキガケ, got over the first gameplay part

So far I liked it when they were playing the game, but it really annoys me when at the beginning of the novel all the heroines already, or almost, love the mc for no fucking reason and the mc just has to pick one without any effort, feels so cheap.

>>12179819
Ouka has a proper backstory with him, so do Ririko and Natsume, but every girl but Ouka don't come to actually like him till their routes.
It's the usual pay attention to the girl=enter her route=she falls for you.

>>12179827
Let me rewrite, it bothers me when they already see the main character as possible (and only) love interest in the common rather than a friend when they are just hanging out as friends. I like to see they conquering the heroines and they first realizing their love when there's actually a reason rather than he's a yasashi and he listen to my venting and don't say a thing kind of thing, when she already has good love points in the beginning is boring... I don't know, maybe that's just me.

>>12179844
Well of course.
The only other male characters in the game are a homo, a sex offender, and one of the character's father.

>>12179871
>are a homo, a sex offender,

Wait, do those get confirmed in the story?

>>12179871
That's not really the point, but whatever.

>>12179844
You should play dating sims then. I like when my heroines have their panties wet when I call their names.

>>12179844
All yasashii protagonists should be lined up and shot.

>>12179949
Looks like Rance is going to have a lot more raping to do, with all the lone heroines around.

>>12179956
lol rance da best

>>12179883
No.
There's explicitly a scene where whatever his name is inner monologue mentions how he's not really a homo, but they still make jokes about it after that though so...
And I've been skipping all the real magic scenes, so I don't know.

>>12179962

we need a serial killer protaganist

>>12180674
We really don't

New thread?

>>12180821
Make it

>>12180825

>>12180835