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the giant fish

i would be a representative democracy with different parties like the animalhu party, buddhism party, faries and so on

If Gensokyo had a ruler it would have to be a princess of noble blood.

Reimu would rule by force, but be too lazy to actually do any governing.

>>12136389
>Who runs the place or who is the closest thing to it?

Yukari, with Reimu as a close second

>>12136406
This, kinda

whoever'd rule would rule in name only while yukari pulls all the strings from the shadows

>>12136406
>>12136409
I would have thought yukari too, but she gets her ass handed to her all the time in canon.

>>12136409
So Yukari is a jew? Good to know.

I'll make sure to have a can of Zyklon B at hand if things with it start to get awry

>>12136413
Not really, even Reimu can't read her true schemes. She even has spies all over the village to control the situation.

I always kinda thought Yukari was the unspoken/ unofficial ruler. Wasn't Gensokyo hidden behind a border she made?

>your reaction when she actually made the border to create a closed off space to be closer to her human food supply without drawing major attention

>>12136431
>>your reaction when she actually made the border to create a closed off space to be closer to her human food supply without drawing major attention

Great work Sherlock! Surely something no common man would have realized!

>>12136413
That's because she doesn't have any official power, she just gets stuff done by manipulating events in secret.

>>12136431
She didn't make it by herself, but it's heavily implied that it was her idea.

>>12136409
>>12136439

>A leader is best
>When people barely know he exists
>Of a good leader, who talks little,
>When his work is done, his aim fulfilled,
>They will say, “We did this ourselves.”
― Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

What, you thought Yukari had Taoist symbols on her clothes just because they looked cool?

>>12136445
>Yukari are actually behind every major event in history cause she's bored.

>>12136431
>I always kinda thought Yukari was the unspoken/ unofficial ruler.

Me too

>>12136431
Nono, the human village isn't a food supply, it's a spiritual supply.
The main thing youkai need to live is people that believe in them, not food. So Yukari created this place to captivate some humans and keep them ignorant since in the actual world people began to stop believing in youkai etc.
The food supply is still the outside world via uknown deaths, suicides for no reason etc. (ZUN explains it somewhere).

The human village is like a protected zoo (iirc Kanako compared it to that) where people give spiritual supply to youkai, Gods and stuff.

>>12136389
>If gensokyo had a ruler who would it be?

Gensokyo is a rather chaotic pseudo country from a modern fairy tale, so probably someone like that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3XZJ4znl00

What will Hitler do if he's actually gapped into Gensokyo?

>>12136445
>>12136448
>>12136450

I agree that yukari seems to be the shadow ruler of gensokyo but her status is heavily diminished by zun allowing her to get beaten so often.

>>12136462
He'll probably stay dead?

>>12136462
Yukari has spies all over the human village for stuff like this, she controls it from the shadows to avoid the village to get a political leader. He would be killed before it does anything, if he ever enters, since he's really famous and needed from the outside world and you need to be forgotten to have a chance in the first place.

>>12136463
Danmaku rules.
She never goes full potential.
The only time we saw her actually angry was in the Tenshi incident where she butslapped Tenshi in one second.
The only real problem are the moonshits since they have technology and shits.

>>12136458
>The main thing youkai need to live is people that believe in them, not food.

Wait, if they don't need food...
What if the whole "spirited away to be eaten" thing is just fearmongering?

>>12136467
>>12136468
Damn, the fuhrer will never commence the shoah of the youkais.

>>12136472
Yes.
Why would anybody believe in them if people didn't have to fear for their lives?

>>12136463
Yukari is hardly beaten often. The few scuffles in the fighting games and the phantasm stage of PCB do not indicate that she is weak, as she has no reason to go all out and defeat her opponents. Danmaku restrictions also apply here.

As for the moonbitches, regardless of whether or not Yukari could fight against them, all she needed to do to "win" the second lunar-Gensokyo War was to distract the moonbitch. The first war was lost intentionally for the purpose of Yukari gaining political power.

>>12136471
I can't tell if zun is a genius or not with all this 'she only lost because she wasn't really trying' tomfoolery.

>>12136389
Gensokyo is anarchy, except with Yukari making sure stuff doesn't go too wrong.

>>12136472
They both need spiritual power and some of them also food.
Attacking the human village is tabù since they're the only spiritual source avaible while the actual food is taken by Yukari from the outside world.
But since human village needs fear too youkai need to be dickish and scary to them too even if they can't kill them.

>>12136426
Hell, she have spies on the outside world even, and although it does not appear on the games, she have more than ran as a shikigami, at least two (rip in pieces) crows.

Yukari is, as she created Gensokyo.

Youkai and Gensokyo never originally existed in reality. Maribel Hearn, having the ability to see "boundaries" was able to see the boundaries between fantasy and reality. Having an interest in Japanese folktales, as did Lafcadio Hearn, she brought a fantasy land into being and populated it with mystical creatures for her own desires. This is why everytime a new magical creature is brought into Gensokyo from the "outside world" it is done so by Yukari. She also edits Akyuu's writings so that things in Gensokyo will seem as she sees fit.

How Maribel did this is probably related to the fact that her powers seem to be growing in the stand-alone music CDs. This would somehow be in combination with Renko's vast knowledge of physics, as Yukari is a master mathematician and probably utilizes her math skills to use her gap powers in the first place. They also live in the future, so future magics.

>>12136563
Epic headcanon bro

>>12136568
Thanks dude

>>12136490
In conclusion, she has no pride. Got it.

>>12136573
She has intelligence instead of pride. It's a fair trade.

>>12136584
I'd rather follow someone possessing both instead of some cowardly loser dog.

>>12136591
Of course you'd prefer some perfect mary sue character over one with flaws.

>>12136591
Pride is a concept for stupid people though, an emotion based on what other people might think about you.

>>12136389
If gensokyo had a ruler reimu would go kill her and then marisa would steal all her stuff.
Plot of touhou 15 confirmed,

>>12136596
Ooooh, so perfect, much mary sue

>>12136604
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

>>12136426
Yukari is a Jew!

>>12136846
Jewkari kikekumo

>>12136471
I don't think it's the technology. The moonbitches win with sheer hax. Imagine having the power of 8 million gods at your disposal.

>>12136598
Spoken like a true beta.

>>12136882
Stay on prague, please.

>>12136886
Have you *seen* some of their technology they've got? Lunarians vs. youkai would be like The Salvation War if all the modern soldiers were also psychic.

>>12136591
>cowardly loser dog

It takes a keen mind to know when you are way over your head and should fall back and come up with a clever plan.

In short if your opponent can be defeated with a clever ruse, why not go for it?

Defeat the moon sisters? I thought Yukari had her ass handed to her in SSiB.

They ended up countering by stealing some alcohol (which I guess is good enough considering it's Gensokyo), but I'd consider that a weak counter.

>>12137048
Remember who was the one who did the stealing.

A death inducing vengeful ghost (and half-ghost retainer) were wandering the moonbitches' own castle for an entire month completely undetected. If the moonwhores' weakness was filth, then what better than the undead to bring it?

>>12137048
Yukari was never trying to defeat the moonsisters, because she knew she'd be screwed if they fought seriously. Her plan was always to distract them so that Yuyuko could sneak in and steal something, then wave it in Eirin's face to freak her out.

>>12137073
Except that the whole reason they could go undetected was because Netherworldians have no "filth".

If you brought, say, Yoshika onto the moon then she'd be tracking mud everywhere, but she's the opposite of a ghost.

>>12137081
But you don't need to bring a (still moving) corpse. You only need to MAKE corpses to bring filth. Thus why Yuyuko is so freaking dangerous, at least for the moonwhores.

Last I heard, they are not immune to death like Fujiwara no Mokou or Kaguya herself.

>>12137084
But would Yuyuko's powers even work on the moon? They don't work in the Netherworld, and the Lunar Capital is pretty much an artificial afterlife realm.

All places in this dimension or any other belong to the United States of America.

>>12137093
>They don't work in the Netherworld
Never heard of that. However, being in the Netherworld kills you, if I remember correctly, the place rips your soul out. The only reason the PC survives is because they have been gathering spring all along.

The only ones I see being immune to Yuyuko's ability are saints, celestials and gods.

>>12137113
>However, being in the Netherworld kills you, if I remember correctly, the place rips your soul out. The only reason the PC survives is because they have been gathering spring all along.

But TD stage 1 takes place in the Netherworld, so you probably remember wrong.

>>12136389
the light bulb is either on, or off.

>>12137123
Ah, true. I was remembering the last stage of PCB and epilogue. Prolonged exposure? A ward of sorts?

>>12137113
Remember that everyone in Gensokyo abides to the nonlethal resolution of conflicts. The only person Yuyuko actively tried to kill with her powers was, if I recall correctly, Mokou in the Extra stage of IN.

>>12137144
'sup?

>>12137165
Newfangled gray morality areas. Eternal hell or bust.

>>12137144
i have a dimmer switch for my lights

If gensokyo had a ruler which would it be? Would it be imperial or metric?

i'm pretty sure controlling fate beats some hag jumping through borders

great Japanese rulers

>>12137109
America, don't bully the world plox (´・ω・｀)

>>12137204
I want a touhou with the power to measure dicks!

>>12137192
>Implying Remilia isn't just a chuuni who keeps saying "I meant to do that".

>>12137113
>The only ones I see being immune to Yuyuko's ability are saints, celestials and gods.
Lunarians *are* celestials and gods though.

>>12137264
Weren't Lunarians just humans who swapped living places?

We all know yumemi controls all from her flying muguffer that runs on pure science.

>>12137303
Their higher-ups are certainly gods, e.g. Eirin. The highest god Tsukuyomi resides there as well.

Maybe the Eternally Graceful Most Refined Princess Houraisan is a god as well, who knows. Her beauty is certainly divine.

>>12137688
That doesn't stop them from possibly having been humans in the past.

>>12136389
I bet it's a Hitchhiker's Guide type of thing. Someone like Remi or Yukari might nominally have power, but the true ruler is is a dude who lives in a shack with no real involvement, though he has the most power (AKA Reimu).

>>12137688
Kaguya was mortal previous to her taking the Hourai Elixir. Thus she was not divine. If the moonharlots are like Kaguya, neither of them are immortal. Or divine.

They can, however, becomes conduits for actual divinities. I mean, why would a god ask another god for help? Doesn't that make them impotent? Then why call them gods?

>>12137264
>Lunarians *are* celestials and gods though.
Source it. Like said previously, celestials are immortals, and the lunarians are not. If they were, they wouldn't be training troops for defense. True celestials just hang around doing fuck all.

>>12137779
>I mean, why would a god ask another god for help? Doesn't that make them impotent? Then why call them gods?
I don't know, why would Kanako ask (trick) the (embodiment of) Yatagarasu for help? Can't she generate her own nuclear power? No? Then why call her a god?

>>12137693
>>12137779
Eirin is Omoikane who is most certainly a god, was born a god, and will be a god for the foreseeable time.

Being a god in Touhou doesn't automatically grant you immortality, especially with Buddhism and Samsara being a real thing. Hence the lack of true immortality shouldn't be seen as a sign of the lunarians' non-goodhood-ness... thingy. In fact, the presence of Tsukuyomi who is most certainly a god, was born a god, and will be a god for the foreseeable time would suggest there must be other gods living on the moon.

Celestials aren't truly immortal as well, they just know the secret to beating death gods. If they lose they'd still die.

>>12137084
>Last I heard, they are not immune to death like Fujiwara no Mokou or Kaguya herself.

In Cage of Lunatic Runagate, they mention that they are kind-of immortal. They can live long and not die. But if they went into a fatal accident, they can die.

So yeah, They die when are killed.

>>12137835
When i mean 'they', i mean the Lunarians btw.

What would be the fatal accident? Choking on peaches?

>>12137875
Guzzling too much cum. Though how much is too much for a society of sluts and whores is uncertain.

>>12137897
This sounds most likely.

>>12137875
Perhaps something related to the wars they seem to be having.

>>12137798
She didn't though. Didn't he convince Okuu to eat Lord Yatagarasu so his power becomes more easily available and easier for her to control without dealing with him personally?
Although it's not like the gods don't help each other, even the high ones. Eirin was Tsukuyomi's advisor for a long time, after all.

Gensokyo is an anarchist society, with different communities observing their own rules!