/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>12118028
Nice dude. Are you viper

what yo take on this W-boys? this guy jus dissed the Chan

>>12118028,2
he let himself get too absorbed
>i come here for pictures of anime girls
>i hate everything
>blabla
>wading through shitposts
guys an idiot overall im not listening to more of this shit he's coming here for content and "serious discussion", he is the gener

lets add him to the hitlist after we get rid of the jannies and mods

people who post their thoughts in video format should be executed

>>12117810
This video is an opinion, because it basically says that browsing 4chan brings the following points:
1. information that you could get more efficiently from other means.
2. time waste.
3. information that isn't generally of use outside of doing that activity (browsing 4chan and learning memes and useless facts in this case).
4. social needs, but without the advantage of creating long-term friends.

+ possibly 5. raw pleasure.
And that if you don't get point 5, then you should leave 4chan. This is a perfectly accceptable opinion.
Now, the video says that if you don't get 5. you should leave, because the other points are "bad" in themselves.

The thing is, the very concept of hobby consists in getting 5., but you can't actually do it without getting point 2 and 3 at the same time. This is valable for every hobby, and as such, it's not a problem.

However, anyone who only browses 4chan for points 1 and/or 4 should genuinely leave. By how that guy is describing the concept of addictivity, it is obvious that he got pleasure (5.) when he was browsing 4chan.

He just chose to get rid of the hobby of browsing 4chan for another hobby, nothing more, nothing less. It's an opinion.

Have you guys seen this fuckin' retard's Touhou video? It's fucking cringe-inducing.

He's a total gaylord and was a /b/ and /v/ level 4channer, and thinks he somehow understands every user on 4chan ever because of it.

If anything it's an amusing view of someone's own hypocrisy and utter ignorance to it.

why would you even watch these videos in the first place

Wow, I'm actually really glad I watched this. I personally do not use 4chan, and have only been about five times in my life. However, I feel this was not a video purely on 4chan.
I'm graduating high school this year, and so I need to get my shit together. I'm thankful I was able to find this video and have it basically kick me in the ass and say "Get out there and do what you need to do."

>>12118028,9
the irony is killing me

i am slain

>>12118028,9

g8 b8 m8 I r8 an 8 but dnt h8

>>12118028,5
owned into the f*ckin stratosphere

This guy is too normalfag for anything he says to apply to me. I'm not the type that can just walk outside and have good things happen. The whole thing is a 20 minute long video that can be summed up in just be urself.

he needs to up his meta

>>12117978
who goes to 4chan thinking "oh boy im gonna stare at anime babes today"

He's right.

>>12118028,15
Everyone?

>>12118028,17
as your main motivation for coming here?

>>12118028,15
milk is a 3d anime babe and I stare at her every day

>>12118028,8
You have to watch it to know it's shit.

>>12118028,18
There really is no real motivation other than to talk to someone.

>There are a few things that I even look back on with nostalgia, like... Japan Time on /v/

That was an awful, awful period and when /v/ went from bad to unsalvageable though. The only way you'd ever think content that consistent of completely spamming the front page with whoever was announced as a character in your party fighting game was good is if you're a massive nintendork.

Seriously. It was fucking atrocious.

>>12118028,20
i was able to tell it was shit without even watching it

well, i guess not everybody can be an esper like me

>>12118028,21
thats what im getting at

the main reason to come here is for the community and talking to others/discussion

>>12118028,21
Or for news/information. Basically as an addendum to >>12118028,6
points 1 and 4 are the motivations, and points 3 and 5 are taken in the process and induce people to stay.

Also, even as a quasi-normie I'm uncomfortable with him laying into people for wanting to be around others who feel similarly lonely.

If he dislikes that, he can easily ensconce himself with talk about relationships and sex amongst colleagues, buddies in real life and so on. This is about the only place people have to commiserate each other for being permavirgs - that's why it comes out in such abundance - precisely because of complete alienation in any real life setting, give them a fucking break you disgusting normie congoer nerd.

>>12118028,22
Athens, (or person who is using his trip) what is your occupation?

>>12118028,26
>>>/wiz/

>>12118028,27
web design/basic front end development.

>>12118028,26
>give them a fucking break
/jp/ is not your blog, even if you are miserable and unemployed

doubly so if you are happy and employed

>>12118028,30

Weren't this basically what NEET threads were? Didn't we have NEET threads more or less from the inception of /jp/ as a board?

>>12118028,22
remember when you used to troll half-life fans

>>12118028,28
/wiz/ is the polar opposite, it's the sorts of people who make a massive deal over being virgins and wallow in self-pity. I don't want that here, but I think there should still be overt hostility to signs of normalshit.

>>12118028,32
I'm surprised you remember, that was so long ago.

>>12118028,31
yes, but you were supposed to feel ashamed about participating in them

>>12118028,33
You're thinking of /v9k/.

Isn't wizardchan the place where you get banned for even saying you wouldn't mind hugging a girl even though all the mods have gfs or get laid

>>12118028,37
Yeah, dude. Make sure to stay away from that shithole.

Is there a 4chan clone where nothing gets deleted except spam and CP?

>>12118028,37
The communities that imageboard culture creates just keep reaching new lows.

I wonder what's even left... maybe some literal floor-shitting level stuff?

>>12118028,39
/ota/
/moe/

>>12118028,39
There are many but they all have users in the single digits.

The main reason people bother with 4chan is because you can actually have more than 5 new posts a week on a board of your choosing.

But if those clones got to be as big as 4chan they would probably change for the worse as well.

>>12118028,41

I got banned on /ota/ and didn't post CP or spam

This topic can't be discussed without overlapping into projection, as in taking your personal experience and feelings about it and implying it's true for all or most of the users of 4chan or 4chan itself, but I think it's mostly okay to do that here.

I think his comments about efficiency to obtain media or news are irrelevant. This is not the reason the large majority of people are coming to 4chan and has nothing to do with it. I think it's irrelevant and shouldn't have even been brought up.

I think the claims about self-esteem, self-hate, feelings of futility, and wanting to subsume yourself in a larger group as being precursors to browsing 4chan are unfounded. I don't think there's any correlation between that and people using 4chan. This part was either pure projection (I doubt it, he doesn't sound like that type), or just a dumb idea he had to add to the video. When you actually look at the core people on 4chan it's mostly just young males being normal young males in the situation given.

I think his claims about not creating relationships are irrelevant. Anonymity is a preference, and a capability that allows discussion not possible otherwise. I'm not going to delve deep into this.

I think he's right about addiction. For years the majority of my time spent throughout most of my days was on 4chan, and that's something I really don't like thinking about or admitting. I actually had to force myself in weird ways to indulge in actual hobbies like watching anime or listening to music, just so I won't immediately go back and check 4chan for replies to my posts. I would call it an addiction because I haven't been able to stop even though I want to.

I think he's right about 4chan influencing you. Personally overall I think it was for the better in my case. A bit of elitism being shown to you can go a long way, and can be beneficial if you have the ability to independently think for yourself and judge this elitism whether it be right or wrong. One thing something like 4chan can do is take someone who is naive about the world, and expose them to an extreme amount of thoughts/opinions/information from thousands of people who are typically a bit smarter than average, not to say there isn't plenty of dumbasses. Depending on how you take it in, you can actually come out a better person, you could come out more bitter at everything, become more of an annoying idiot, or just a plain jackass who follows others blindly. Whatever the case I think there's a very small plateau where any improvement possible cuts off, and there's nothing else of value you can take back from it. You're not going to get anything of serious value back, the plateau cuts off where at most you can be more "aware" (for lack of better term) than the average person.

I think he's right about hostility. Anonymity produces people saying what they think. This is a good thing on one hand, and a bad thing when there's nothing but anger-fueled arguments. I argue far too much on 4chan and get stressed over it.

I've been trying to completely cut off 4chan and browse nothing but other imageboards. Most any issue you can have with 4chan disappears if you browse other boards.

>>12118028,44
Imagine spending time writing all that when you're just saying the most obvious shit in the world.

>>12118028,44
>I've been trying to completely cut off 4chan
everyone is cheering you all the way

>>12118028,45
Why are you on waruso replying to me?

Is it because of some deep sub-conscious need to fuck you're mom? Gay electra complex?

We can get deep into psychology if you want.

I've been on imageboards since I was 10. Am I beyond saving?

>>12118028,48
Holy fuck. Are we all pretty much kids that were reared by the internet? I started posting on messageboards at age 9.

>>12118028,44
Fuck off, Tokike.

>>12118028,47
steamed as heck lmao

I am gay.

>>12118028,49
>>12118028,47
What imageboards do you go to instead of 4chan?

Check out my blog, guys.

http://4x13.net/blog/

>>12118028,47
I'll get deep into your ass, kiddo.

>>12118028,54
answer my fucking question robert

>>12118028,44
>I think he's right about addiction. For years the majority of my time spent throughout most of my days was on 4chan, and that's something I really don't like thinking about or admitting. I actually had to force myself in weird ways to indulge in actual hobbies like watching anime or listening to music, just so I won't immediately go back and check 4chan for replies to my posts. I would call it an addiction because I haven't been able to stop even though I want to.

Yes, this is by far the worst aspect.

You need to really motivate yourself to even entertain yourself if you develop an addiction to 4chan. It's really damaging to your ability to delay gratification.

>>12118028,53
/ota/, tohno-chan, bun, 4chon, and what-ch.

Obviously /ghost/.

>>12118028,52
>>12118028,54
>>12118028,55
Nice.
Epic.
I like it.

>>12118028,44
I was gonna write a long post like this but realized it was a waste of time. There's a line between the people who end up like the guy in this video and people who benefit. It can't seem to be crossed and it's where all the problems with the site come from. That guy thinks all there is to life is consumption, the more the better.

Kigmod is like him. Bitter and angry about his wasted time. Wants to talk about it and complain to everyone else under guise of spreading knowledge.

>>12118028,58
but those boards are f*cking slow as fuck

>>12118028,57
Also, somebody else pointed out how "you age but the userbase of 4chan doesn't", as in, there's a turnover of established people who just go on to live normal lives or whatever.

I think it's this that leads to a lot of the less overt and conscious alienation from 4chan as you get older. I remember when I was 5 or 6 years younger I felt like I had a lot more in tune with the average user, and this followed through in things like making e-friends from various online games we'd play together, getting to know various people and so on (a lot of whom I stay in contact with to this day).

These days, I have no such inclination to get to know anyone from 4chan.

>>12118028,60
I think that's the point.

>>12118028,61
I've been following the old userbase around for so long now. It seems like this is the end.

So where do we go from here?

>>12118028,63
Likewise, beyond the occasional post and topic (I'll periodically browse a couple of /vg/ generals), I'm more or less done with the place. In defense of the jay and the w, it's about the only place where a significant slice of the userbase are in their mid 20s.

You can't bump your own thread on /v/ anymore. Does that affect all boards or just /v/? It's a step closer to Reddit, next up will be up/down arrows so the only way to bump a thread will be with enough post karma or some shit

>>12118028,65
You're here forever.

>>12118028,66
What's the point in implementing that on a board as fast as /v/?

where will you be when image/textboards are officially dead

>>12118028,66
http://archive.4plebs.org/o/thread/10138388/#10146054

>>12118028,66
if literally zero people want to bump your thread it was probably shit

>>12118028,70
what is this thread even about

>>12118028,70
I forgot about that. Looks like moot decided to bail his pathetic mod nerds out again and the whole site has to suffer. Saving face takes priority over posting experience - bumping your own thread is now so against the rules it's impossible

>>12118028,70
http://img.4plebs.org/boards/o/image/1395/81/1395811849716.jpg

>>12118028,74
So true.

>>12118028,41
/ota/ is only homosexuals that isn't good

>>12118028,66
What in the actual fuck, I know moot has been on a crusade to take away as much power from the community as possible but that is seriously fucked up.

>>12118028,66
Am I the only one who doesn't think this is completely retarded?

Surely you could find a single other poster interested in bumping your thread.

>>12118028,74
Shitposters are normalfags? Gross. I guess I'll have to become a rulefag.

>>12118028,71
That's not really the case on super fast boards

>>12118028,77
It's okay, he's doing it to stop the SHITPOSTERS from RUINING the site.
God I love moot, he's so awesome. He's intelligent, handsome, witty and all around perfect.
I screencap every one of his posts because his words are pretty much the words of god.
Yesterday I told my friend about him on the bus trip to school and he said it sounded like I was gay for him.
Can you believe that? Like showing proper respect for the one true god of the interwebz makes me gay...

>>12118028,74
- No double posting
- No bumping

How long until we get required usernames and signatures?

>>12118028,81
GOD YES, this is so true. /v/bro-fist

>>12118028,82
all of these are geared at stopping samefag attention whores; required usernames and signatures don't exactly help there

what we're actually looking at is that moot finally figure out that you can't actually get rid of people you don't like by banning them so instead he changes the system to make it harder

>>12118028,78
There are boards that will kick your thread back to page 2 in less than a minute. I've made a single bump in my threads before and it went on to become a 300+ post'r

>>12118028,82
You already have a username but only staff can see it.

>>12118028,85
/v/ is a lot faster than /jp/ but it also has like a thousand people who can bump your thread for you.

I don't really give a shit since I've never started a thread in /v/ anyway.

Why does W suddenly won't shut the fuck up about /v/

>>12118028,87
>>/jp/thread/S12104706

>>12118028,88
Didn't they have this wannabe warosu thing going on in foolz? Why don;t they post there?

lol does he make hour long videos every time he buys groceries too??? ?

who the fuck cares

i seriously think 4chan ruined his life somehow

there's no other reason someone would make a 17 minute warning about it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXiNzJ1O_J4


wooooooooooahhh is this is really epic! they got epic faces that reminds me of that DEAL WITH IT meme!!!! im gonna show this to all my friends!!!!!!!!!

4chan is really mean
i used to be mean
trying not to be mean anymore
so i come here only once every 20 days

anyone wanna raid 4chan??????

Let's raid this fucker W

17 minutes? I ain't watching that shit.

OP girl is my favorite anime coffee girl though.

>>12118028,96
She's definitely the homu of the group

I think he made a lot of drama as if 4chan is the worst possible community for you, especially if you are a teen and/or easily influenced.

Teens with low self-esteem and who are socially awkward will always find a social community for themselves where they will feel like they are not alone. Are you aware of Tumblr's social justice warriors? The whole SJW movements is basically that - socially impaired people (mostly teens) with low self esteem participating in a community where they feel accepted. They also hate and criticize everything while glorifying things that don't exist in real life and are practically wasting their time completely.
That guy who made "Why I left 4chan" video says how, when he visits tumblr, he can completely filter all that bullcrap and enjoy his anime pictures while on 4chan he has to go through tons of shitposts that "pull him in into arguments" and in the end he doesn't get what he wants - pictures of cute anime girls. That's bullshit because if he wants what he claims he wants, he can simply go to /c/ or similar, which are basically image dump boards of exactly what he is looking for.
Kids today are introduced to internet when they are still too young. When they discover various internet communities, they are most likely impressed with some because they haven't developed critical thinking to know what's good for them. Basically what I am trying to say it's not just 4chan, there is also Reddit, Tumblr, various forums etc. which also can have a bad influence on the kid. And it's practically unavoidable, unless your parents forbid you any kind of interaction with a computer.

Also on the other side of the coin, normals, socially adept kids have their problem with social sites too. I have a 12 year old cousin who is on facebook 24/7. He non-stop posts his "selfies", checks what other have commented, have "who gets more likes" contests, "who is more popular", basically battling for attention. His whole school does it and modern parents simply don't care. Seems like a child play but this whole "who is prettier" thing going on facebook continues into teenage age. What's going to happen is that he is going to grow into a very insecure person, like most of these kids, seeking validation through facebook likes on his selfies.
So yeah, it's not just quitting 4chan, if you want to become a person that is content with their lives, you have to become independent and know what is good for you. That was always hard and in this day and age, it has become even more harder.

>>12118028,92
This is almost as epic as that BASED thugdoka cosplay.

Congoer pride, my trunormie brothers.

>>12118028,70
http://archive.4plebs.org/o/thread/10138388/#10147650

This right here. This post gave them the idea.

>>12118028,87
Why does non English speaking subhumans post on /ghost/ with terrible grammar? Don't third world degenerates have their own chans to talk like apes in? :S

feel when he completely right and I waste my life
also he should do radio

>>12118028,101
Honestly I'd rather take T's BRs than kids from /v/ with a GameFAG account and a youtube one to unironically fellate their favorite e-celebrity

That suigintou thread in his vid looks like something you'd see on fucking reddit. Fuck nerd bullshit humor

>>12118028,90
*shoots you in the stomach*

lol why are you making such a big deal it's just a little piece of metal

*smokes crack pipe*

why you making such a big deal it's just coca leaf extract rocks

*anally rapes you*

wuts the big deal bruh its just a little sex

>>12118028,105
*shits all over you*

Shut the fuck up

>>12118028,105
>>12118028,106
both of you, stop *throws a bomb like from those cartoons at you two*

Why does he have to use one of my favorite Suigintou images?

>>12118028,103
If you don't have a Gamefaqs account registered in the early 2000s then you don't know shit about the internet.

>>12117772

i've been coming here since the site first opened and i was 12 years old back then.

>tfw you grew up on 4chan and don't know any other way to socialize

basado

>>12118028,110
same, except i was 14 when i started posting here since 2005