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English Wiki: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Kancolle_Wiki
Recent Updates: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Recent_Updates

Please read (before asking newbie questions)
FAQ: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_FAQ
Tutorial: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_How_to_Play
Guides: http://imgur.com/a/7HZO7/all

Japanese Wikis:
http://www56.atwiki.jp/kancolle/
http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/

Others:
Air Superiority Calculator: https://googledrive.com/host/0B97S3y_L0wtXbW1TaDh5WG9XTjA/index2.html
Detailed Battle Mechanics: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C0%EF%C6%AE%A4%CB%A4%C4%A4%A4%A4%C6
Voice Clips, Room Deco Pv, Game Sprites: http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev/
Kancolle Viewer: https://github.com/Grabacr07/KanColleViewer
Kancolle Viewer (Translated): https://github.com/Zharay/KanColleViewer
Sanaechan Logbook: https://github.com/Zharay/logbook

Please try to keep emoticons, greentext, Re, Wo, Hime and dumb questions to a reasonable minimum.

>> No.12110246
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~stares~

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>>12110246
Back to the bath with you

>> No.12110250,1 [INTERNAL] 

*takes a shit in your shitty general thread*

whew! that was a stinky one!

>> No.12110250,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>12110250,1
*general remains unaffected*

shitposter was defeated.

>> No.12110254
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Delicious Darwin x Hime

>> No.12110257

Why are we getting raided by Abyss scum?

>> No.12110259

>>12110254
you call those women with those useless piece of meat delicious? you have a bad taste anon

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I did it, guys.

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>>12110260

>> No.12110276

>>12110257
Its called shit taste and its a incurable condition that affects many admirals here in this thread.

I have no idea how someone can be attracted to monsters like that.

>> No.12110293
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Guys, how about Wo? Is she forgotten?

>> No.12110296

Anyone try this successfully?
http://pastebin.com/wF2V748S

>> No.12110298

>>12110293
Why is Wo still not playable?

>> No.12110302

Fuck I want to play but god damn I'm too stupid to do all the shit to actually join.
Is it worth it?

>> No.12110305

>>12110293
Compared to Hime, Henderson and Darwin, Wo is a bit bland and too vanilla

>> No.12110307

>>12110302
Yes. But if you can't be bothered to jump through some simple hoops to play, this may not be your kind of game.

>> No.12110311

>>12110307
Fair enough. I don't know Jap anyways I usually just trial and error my way through it.

>> No.12110329

So Midway-tan will be a flat or another useless undead cowtits again?

>> No.12110335

>>12110329
Hopefully she won't be a disgusting flatshit piece of garbage

>> No.12110346

>>12110311
The game is impossible if you don't know Jap. Don't bother.

>> No.12110347

>>12110329
Probably even flatter, even more Lolified than Wake-tan.

>> No.12110348

>>12110296
What is it supposed to do?

>> No.12110350

>>12110347
She's gonna be a dignified lady like BB Hime

>> No.12110351

>>12110348
Bypass DMM's region check. Let's you play straight from the browser without a VPN or API link.

>> No.12110354

>>12110329
I'm betting she will have drill hair + useless meat with haughty attitude.

>> No.12110356

So many disgusting pedophiles in this thread

>> No.12110367

>>12110356
Where do you think you are?

>> No.12110372

>>12110367
In the continuation of a thread where we didn't have so many pedophiles.

>> No.12110374

So how do I use Log Book with flash player?

>> No.12110375

>>12110372
Darwin is busty as hell and it's all people have been posting in the thread so far.

>> No.12110380
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>>12110375
Time to post more of her because she's an actual woman, not some prepubescent failure.

>> No.12110381

>>12110296
Ain't that just the cookie method, just with another (not javascript) way to generate the cookie?

>> No.12110386

>>12110380
i don't know man, that's basically saying all you see is the piece of meat and nothing else, such low standard.

>> No.12110387

>>12110381
I guess. I don't really understand how or if it works, so I was asking if others knew.

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>>12110380
You're not the boss of me

>> No.12110389

>>12110329
Wasn't the actual airstrip on Midway tiny? I can't imagine her being cowtits.

>> No.12110390

>>12110296
It works, but if I am idle for a long time it just "kicks" me out and I have to F5. This doesn't happen with the API link.

>> No.12110391

>>12110390
How long is a "long time"?

>> No.12110394

>>12110391
No idea really, I just stand from my desk, go to do something. Maybe 1 hour?

>> No.12110406

>>12110394
Damn, that sucks. I might still give it a try, but that doesn't sound encouraging.

>> No.12110409

>>12110406
Yeah, its a safer method tho. But really, if you are at home there's not big risk in getting your account stolen by using API.

>> No.12110419

>>12110409
What a wonderful way to obtain a new API without using a VPN.

>> No.12110426

>>12110390
Well, that just happens with the cookie method, where the dialog box will appear. You should have been able to ignore it though.

>> No.12110431

>>12110426
I just pressed whatever because I don't know moonrunes...

>> No.12110437

>>12110426
What's the dialog box?

>> No.12110441

>>12110437
Error. HEY YOU SHOULD RELOAD THE PAGE
OK | cancel.

>> No.12110449

>>12110390
You can also use it to get your API instead of using a VPN.

>> No.12110451

>>12110449
Yeah that seems to be the best use you can give it right now.

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>>12110356
You don't want to be lolidommed by the island demon? Really now?

You don't want to look up at her condescending smile as she rubs your penis with her smooth, delicate, corpse-cold feet, covered by a flimsy later of fabric that only serves to enhance the sensation? You wouldn't want her to sit on you and bury your face in between her creamy thighs, the heavenly aroma of her XX-year old pussy inches away from your nose? Your deepest wish isn't for her to bind and gag you and mount you in front of the entire abyssal fleet, her loli vagina tightening around you as she runs a pale, dainty hand across your cheek and gently whispers to your ear that you're her property and will never return to see your ship girls again?

What is wrong with you? I want to be broken by her, and I can't see why any other red-blooded man wouldn't.

>> No.12110474

>>12110457
If she and her sister/friend/lover didn't cockblock me from Sakawa, then sure.

But all Abyss should be exterminated in the end.

>> No.12110490

>>12110474
But that's what made me fall for her.

I'm not ordinarily into loli, when I first saw her, I was none too impressed by a scrawny little kid playing at being an event boss. After a twenty hour onslaught that ended in complete failure, I was in love.

Then the dreams started.

>> No.12110503

Is this game like a grinder version of Puzzle Pirates?

I saw it when it first came out but with the increased sexuilzation I'm not so sure

>> No.12110506

I WANT TO IMPREGNATE WAKE-TAN!

>> No.12110522

>>12110503
What part of this game is sexualized? The girls get their clothes blown off, sure, but it is usually mild, if you discount Yubari's nipple-that-on-second-thought-might-also-have-been-a-bruise.

Besides, half the girls are undead deep sea abominations, having sex with them may cause their eyes or fingers to fall out and they probably have moray eels nesting in their vaginas.

>> No.12110523

>>12110457
I don't. I guess something is wrong with me in that I think all shinkaisei are filthy apparitions, dredges of negative emotion that disgustingly attempt to imitate the one true fascism of the human race. They are twisted filth and you are twisted filth for falling for them. I keep the same policy for my own shipdaughters, in that I disown them if they ever turn Abyss. It keeps them alive and unsunk out of fear.

but what in the actual fuck dude, don't get into that abyss shit, only asshole contrarians and darkness-obsessed Alliedfags do that

>> No.12110546

>>12110503
Lol yea

>> No.12110559

>>12110523
Abyss isn't for contrarians, it's for masochists.

Besides, don't you want to dive down through black abysses to the cyclopean and many-columned Y’ha-nthlei, and forever dwell amidst wonder and glory alongside your island demon wife in that lair of the Deep Ones?

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It's been a while since I see this kind of drops. Maybe I should stop sub-slaving.

>> No.12110568

>>12110559
No.
Just, no.
Also, Lovecraft is shit.

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>>12110374
Set it up with IE instead of firefox/chrome.

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This game really knows how to make you mad.

>> No.12110599

>>12110565
I made a promise. If I clear E5 in 10 runs I'll never do dailies with subs ever again.
Guess what, I cleared it in 8 runs. I'm really fucking afraid to field my subs now, dailies or weeklies or not.

>> No.12110601

>>12110597
Nah, it's just RNG throwing spaghetti at you

>>12110599
You actually reach and clear Wake-tan on every sortie? How many virgins do you sacrifice to get that kind of luck?

>> No.12110605

>>12110601
I haven't fielded subs even once since I cleared it since I'm fucking scared. That kind of luck.

>> No.12110612

>>12110605
It's not like the first node of 2-3 can hit your subs to red. Nope, even green T an Shioi won't get hit to red. It's ok, just keep going!

>> No.12110615

>>12110612
That's not the point. That kind of luck to reach and clear the boss node at every sortie is sustained by his promise not to sub slave.

>> No.12110616

>>12110568
>Lovecraft is shit
Them's fighting words, son. Lovecraft is fine. He pushed the "unspeakable, indescribable horror" thing too far sometimes, but his heart was in the right place, and nobody does worldbuilding quite like him.

Abyss is also fine. Despite being the designated villains, they're clearly as appealing as the player-side ships. Let people decide for themselves whether they want to put their dicks in wholesome ship girls or decaying abyssal horrors.

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>>12110605
Better keep your promise unless you want the wrath of RNG god.

>> No.12110618

>>12110612
That's going to backfire on me horribly, I just know it. The least thing I want to do is lady luck abandoning me forever.

>> No.12110624

>>12110599
If I knew sooner, maybe I will do the same promise.
Maybe I could clear it under 15 tries!

>> No.12110630

>>12110618
Stop believing in superstitions, they are not real.

>> No.12110633

>>12110630
next you'll say UC BGM doesn't work wonders!

>> No.12110672

>>12110616
Lovecraft is fine until people start wanting to desperately fuck the god-eating abominations, then it just gets stupid.

>> No.12110684

>>12110672
I'm glad they get forks thrown at them.

>> No.12110688

>>12110672
I don't know, some of the Lovecraftian horrors are probably alright with fucking. Deep ones actively interbreed with humans, Yithians are probably interested in sex, Elder Things probably wouldn't mind, ghouls neither, Y'golonac is all about sex.

That movie Dagon even had an octopus imouto end, despite also featuring things like gratuitous human sacrifice and people being skinned alive.

>> No.12110693

>>12110633
Not that guy.
But i just tried it and fuck this UC BGM.
Still stuck on No Taihou Club,

>> No.12110696

>>12110390
>>12110426
I made the guide and the dialog box shouldn't appear if all the cookies are added.
Maybe try adding them again after logging in, or executing them line-by-line?

>> No.12110708

So what is everyone going to do during the down time.

I have every ships except Tanikaze so I cant farm for her. My resources hardly even budge, I probably have more now compare to the start of the spring event.

Is Kancolle finished?

>> No.12110710

>>12110693
You didn't time it well.

>> No.12110716

Is Saya consider an Abyss? Because I like Eldritch Abominations such as Southern War Demon.

>> No.12110717

>>12110693
You fool, UC BGM only works for maps.

In order to get it to work for crafting, you need to play it backwards.

>> No.12110718

>>12110708
level every shipgirl to 99 and max out their stats

>> No.12110719

>>12110708
Grinding and stockpiling. Boring really, I wish next event doesn't take months to arrive. They could throw more extra operations at us.

>> No.12110722

They should bring back the Ironbottom Sound tier difficult like in E-4 and E-5.

It will be a good wall against those fucking casuals.

>> No.12110727

>>12110722
Stop talking about things you know nothing about.

>> No.12110729

>>12110708
- Diversify fleet
- Bring backups, main DD/CL and Yamato to level 70+
- Clear maps
- Farm for missing ships.
- Cautiously try LSC.

>> No.12110731

>>12110722
Fall event actually took slightly less resources compared to this one, if you ignore Yahagi farming.

If you were lucky enough to have a good E4 run (which was something like 15k/10k/15k/x) instead of spending 50k at it, the rest of the event was fairly mild, especially since you would usually field a total of 4 DDs, CAs and CLTs instead of going in with a full BB/CV fleet.

>> No.12110733
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I know it's not really hard to get her, but I'm happy nonetheless as I have no Nagato-class or Yamato-class. Got her while doing 5-2 just now.

>> No.12110738

>>12110710
This >>12110717
Thank you Anon

>> No.12110741

>>12110684
I liked that show. Kuuko a best.

>>12110708
I need to figure out who I'm going to marry.

>> No.12110742

>>12110733
>I know it's not really hard to get her
I got her after 4 months of playing when I farmed one of the christmas event map for 2 days just to get her while I had 4 Nagato and Musashi,
treat her well.

>> No.12110754

>>12110742
>4 Nagatos

Did you get all of them from the Xmas event maps? ...Wish I had been playing back then.

>> No.12110760

>>12110754
No, I get her everywhere.

>> No.12110772

>>12110708
Waiting for Haruna Kai 2

>> No.12110777

>>12110708
I will get the cards I'm missing (DD zweis) and grind quite a lot.

>> No.12110779

>>12110708
Craft equipment and don't stop until even non-boss support has 46cm.

>> No.12110789

>>12110708
I want to be done with LSC before they add Musashi (sadly that's unlikely to happen), in the meantime I'm grinding my CAs and carriers in the dailies. I still have a couple drop ships missing, but they can wait till the next event.

>> No.12110800

Is it just me, or did they change the fatigue recovery rate from 3/3min to 1/1?

>> No.12110842

>>12110779
what recipe and flagship do you use for 46cm?

>> No.12110845

>>12110842
10/300/250/10
10/251/250/10
10/251/250/30 (+sanshiki)

>> No.12110853

>>12110845
I mean which one do you specifically use, I keep getting penguins.

>> No.12110854

>>12110853
I use all of them. 46cm are rare anyway, so you shouldn't be surprised.

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Apparently this was being sold in Reitaisai

>> No.12110880

>>12110298
I know it's not gonna happen, but an "abyss route" or just being able to recruit (balanced) versions of the various bosses would be fuckin great.

>> No.12110881
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>>12110874
Kancolle is invading Touhou territory? Can't wait for 2nd Otakudom War at C86.

>> No.12110887

>>12110881
All those muh 2hu butthurts.

>> No.12110893

>>12110881
I don't think Kancolle will win long war of attrition, but it will have a few victories right now. Quite fitting for a game about Combined Fleet.

>> No.12110896

>>12110880
Fuck this, just put in Allied shipgirls already.

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>>12110881
Mark my words, it will be the stuff of legends. Japan will be reduced to a lifeless wasteland in the aftermath, populated only by rowing bands of gangsters who wouldn't even blink before slaying their fellow man to get a rare figurine.

In this post-apocalyptic world, three distinguished clans will battle for supremacy in a modern iteration of the Three Kingdoms period, with the winner founding an empire to last for a thousand years.

>>12110880
The Vita game should have an abyss route or at least a map where you and a small band of abyss ships must unite against a greater threat, with you being given temporary control over the abyss ships. That, or Kadokawa implements day 1 DLC abyss ships and gets rich at long last.

>> No.12110901

>>12110896
Never going to happen.

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Come meet me in 5-5 TTKs!

Don't bring subs

>> No.12110904

>>12110901
I'm sure if they American ships are cute enough, the Japs will accept them.

>> No.12110908

>>12110901
Nips love enterprise

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>>12110901
Why not? And WWI ships too. I want to have intercrural sex with Dreadnought-chan already.

>> No.12110924

>>12110898
I just want my Woifu.

>> No.12110927

>>12110898
That picture fits too well.

>> No.12110930

>>12110902
I have to get Taihou before, sorry.

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>>12110908
>>12110904

Correct.

>> No.12110943

>>12110898
Is the right Im@s character?

>> No.12110984

>>12110932
Wait, there was ANOTHER nippon online/mobage that features personifications of military equipment as cute girls?

>> No.12110986

>>12110898
Before, I was in the red faction but then I swore my allegiance to the blue ones.

>> No.12110990

Murasame just survived 17 sparkle runs without getting hit even once. I started resupplying her to see how far will this go. I think it's finally time to get her Kai art, you rarely find DD this lucky.

>> No.12110995

>>12110986
Cow Cow will have your head for that, you know.

>> No.12110997

>>12110990
She was just throwaway DD and not the ship I was sparkling, by the way.
Just in case someone is mentally handicapped.

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Ooyodo when?

>> No.12111004
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12111004

Well then, back to the hell.

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>>12110984
Yes, MC Axis browser game. More like a Japanese version of Travian.

And yes, it's older than Kancolle.

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The guy must really hate her hourlies.

>> No.12111014

>>12111004
No whining is allowed before reaching 50 tries.

>> No.12111016

New BGM soon.

>> No.12111017

>>12110990
>Murasame just survived 17 sparkle runs without getting hit even once.
What's her level?

>> No.12111018

>>12111004
Do you people have 4 docks?

I've gotten my hotel in 10, taihou in 5

>> No.12111021

>>12111017
Started with 1, ended with 4. She was a throwaway DD with red fatigue all the time.

>> No.12111022

>>12111018
Get out dev.

>> No.12111023

>>12111018
Obviously. 48 attempts to get Taihou, 21 so far on hotel. All with 4 docks.

>> No.12111026
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12111026

new information from jp wiki

>> No.12111027

>>12111026
Link to the page.

>> No.12111028

>>12111026
I also noticed that 2 mains + radar can result in cut-in, without AP ammo.

>> No.12111029

>>12111026
It says you're an idiot, read the wikia combat page

>> No.12111030

>>12111014
64 Taihou attempts here, can I whine now?

>> No.12111033

>>12111028
What? All of my Kongous and Nagatos have that setup and I never see a single cut-in from them

>> No.12111034

>>12111030
Sure. Now enjoy your mythical 'luck after whining in /jp/'

>> No.12111035 [DELETED] 

Haha! Would you look at that, first time I stick my nose into /jp/ for kancole general in three weeks and it'd the top thread on page 1.

Is /jp/ still shitting itself wanting you all to move to /vg/?

>> No.12111037

>>12111035
Re pls go.

>> No.12111043

How does one level a hotel to 60?

>> No.12111045

>>12111043
Pvp.

>> No.12111050

I have 19 Type 3 Sonars now. Should I stop?
>>12111043
PvP + Flagship + MVP

>> No.12111066

>>12111050
No, try getting 24.

>> No.12111082

>>12111035
No, it was just one moron. He got banned.

Kancolle is unquestionably /jp/ property, as much as toku is /m/ property and elf rape threads are /tg/ property. There's no way it's going away.

>> No.12111125

>>12111026
Yeah there's no point to 15.5's anymore, fuck

>> No.12111131

>>12111125
for the CLs that can't equip seaplanes of course and for leveling akashi

>> No.12111135

>>12111125
I forgot about this, but can 15.5 target planes?

>> No.12111151

>>12111135
Needing an AA gun to target planes is autism spawned on the wikia

>> No.12111152 [DELETED] 

Has anyone here cleared 5-3 since the update that gave all of the cruisers double attack? I was wondering if the strategy listed on the wiki for that map was still viable in light of that.

>> No.12111156

>>12111152
There was a stream of someone clearing it with 2BB 2CA 2DD earlier today, didn't seem too much different.

Or you can just use subs.

>> No.12111159

>>12111152
I did it, but it was really bucket heavy.

>> No.12111162

>>12111152
All DDs seem less liable, but I don't see a difference if you go with CA/BB fleet with damecon which is how it's done when the map first came out.

>> No.12111164

>>12111152
4SS2DD, 0 resource consumption

>> No.12111166 [DELETED] 

>>12111156
Trying it with 3 subs now. I don't have I-19 or I-401 though, sadly.

>> No.12111174 [DELETED] 

>>12111164
Since I have 3 subs, should I go with 3 subs and 3 DDs?

>> No.12111176

>>12111152
I can't clearing 5-3 even before the update, so I doubt I could clearing it now.

>>12111164
And what if the DD are damaged, you're going back to HQ right?

>> No.12111178

>>12111174
Sure, as long as you have 2 DDs remaining before you reach boss it's a free entry.

>>12111176
Use throwaway DDs.

>> No.12111187
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>>12111152
I did it just 2 hours ago.
I used the support fleet for the last kill and a boiler on everyone (except Yuubari).
The rest is the usual double attack setup for CA and cut-in for DD.

>> No.12111195

>>12111178
Wo please.

>> No.12111210

>>12111187
Interesting. Did you give Yuubari all ASW gear, or did you give her 2 yellows, a sonar, and a depth charge?

>> No.12111211

>>12111195
That's Re. Wo is ally of righteousness.

>> No.12111214

>>12111210
Double attack + sonar + depth charge.
She's the only one that can double attack AND kill the sub in one hit.
Yuubari is the queen on 5-3.

>> No.12111225

>>12111214
Depth charge is placebo.

>> No.12111233

>>12111214
Indeed. One more question for you--what formation did you go with on the pre-boss nodes? Echelon?

>> No.12111236

>>12111187
What about day double attacks?

>> No.12111243

>>12111225
You just have to believe.
>>12111233
Echelon
>>12111236
They did little damage or just missed. I blame the boilers.
I started the boss fight with everyone in perfect conditions.

>> No.12111281

>>12110696
I am using the option that is given by KCV, don't know if it runs the command for all cookies at once or does as you say. But I guess that doing the same process on IE should carry on KCV as well.

>> No.12111285

>>12111281
Or, better yet, you can simply do the same thing in KCV. You can play in IE all you want after that without upgrading cookies manually.

>> No.12111286

Holy shit my luck with holo plane distribution is just awful. I have something like 13 Reppu but just three 12A and four RK. I just went about month without seeing a single holo and when I finally get some this past week it's Reppu, Shiden-Kai2, normal Ryuusei, hybrid. It's got to be several months now since I last managed to build a 12A or RK.

>>12110902
I'm probably going to wind up attempting 5-5 finally for lack of anything better to do.

>>12110898
>Kantai Collection is landlocked

>> No.12111310

>>12111286
that's the great chinese lake

>> No.12111325 [DELETED] 

So how does Akashi exactly works?

After remodeling her I went to sleep and put her as my flagship + another 5 ships with scratch damage and when I woke up only 4 got healed.

So Akashi without cranes would only heal 1 ship (the one on 2nd position) and each crane is like another repair deck?

>> No.12111326

>>12111325
Read the fucking wiki.

>> No.12111330

>>12111326

How embarrassing. Last time I checked that wasn't there.

>> No.12111335

When doing the quest 'Craft a Ship' does it complete when it's done making the ship or when you start?

>> No.12111339

>>12111335
Start

>> No.12111340

>>12111335
When you start.

>> No.12111370

>>12111286
What recipe are you using? i need more Reppu but in the last few days i got 2 Ruuusei and 2 RK

>> No.12111379

I don't remember the last time I got Suisei 12A, help.

>> No.12111413

>>12111370
I've been doing 20/60/10/100 lately, I was doing 20/30/10/40 just for 12A for a while but I had so much surplus bauxite after the event anyway.

Part of the problem is that I spent some time before the event doing 20/30/251/250 for radars, but apparently you can't get bombers from radar recipe regardless of ammo, only fighters and floatplanes. I got two or three Reppu along with five T14 and one T32 radar. But it's still been months before that since I got a 12A or RK, hell, I had three RK back in October, that's just 1 in 6 months since.

>> No.12111418

>>12111379
I know what you're going through anon, and I know it's a serious problem. Please don't wait anymore and go see a memory specialist.

>> No.12111419

>>12111413

I got most of my 12A with 20/60/10/100, most of them with Souryuu as my flagship.

>> No.12111451
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12111451

Why so lewd

>> No.12111471

3 hours left to a new week and I've forgotten the standard 5-2 weekly loadout. What was it, 3BBs, 2CVs, 1 CVL?

>> No.12111477

>>12111471
Yes, 2CV 1CVL.

>> No.12111479

>>12111477
The rest are BBs right? I just remembered that B node is a sub node.

>> No.12111481

>>12111479
You can choose whichever you like.

>> No.12111482

>>12111481
Of course, but there is an optimal loadout.

>> No.12111484

>>12111481
5CV1CVL is the way to go

>> No.12111485

>>12111482
at least 1BB, 2BB/CLT/CAV of your choice. It really doesn't matter.

>> No.12111486

>>12111482
Since you have to S rank it then yes BB is the way to go. But it's resource inefficient.
>>12111484
Wo please go. No more than 2CV 1CVL.

>> No.12111593
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12111593

Two married level 120+ Kongous and level 97 Fusou sisters who made it to the end of E-5 and back. What warm people.

1. Let's do our best from now on, too.
2. The blast furnace loved by everyone.
3. [I can't really tell what this one says.]
4. Fusou-class sisters E-5 clear!

>> No.12111598

>>12110696
Okay I tested being idle for a couple of hours and it works like a charm. Maybe you should update the guide. Also, for KCV doing it on IE is more than enough. What I did was after logging in, entered the 3 cookies one by one on the IE console.

>> No.12111613

>>12111593
This warms my heart. It must be nice to share a server with such pleasant admirals.

>> No.12111647

>>12111310
This post got me thinking: Why isn't China a lake? Why is China a country? Who gets to decide whether something becomes a lake, or a country?

In fact, why do countries even exist? Was the concept of a country invented by one person, or was there some sort of cultural convergence all around the world?

>> No.12111648

>>12111593
No Taihou club?

>> No.12111660

Do you think they will give carriers kai2?

>> No.12111666

>>12111660
Fat chance, except maybe class change for Kaga.

>> No.12111676

>>12111666
What about BBV?

>> No.12111677

>>12111660
All ships will eventually get Kai2.

>> No.12111679

>>12111677
That's just wishful thinking.

>> No.12111682

>>12111679
They have to keep the game alive somehow.

>> No.12111685

>>12111682
They have a ton of ships to add and there is always the chance to add more foreign ones too, then kai2 can come for some of the new ones as well. They have fuel and fuel to burn, but I don't see a day where all of them have kai2.

>> No.12111702

>>12111660
I sure fucking hope so, if they want carriers to act like the powerhouses they're actually supposed to be instead of green plane slaves.

>> No.12111712

>>12111685
They are not going to add all the no-name destroyers one by one, they will probably add them by class.
Also, it's not like they have to get an all new art just for it, just a few changes and some stats upgrades would be enough.

>> No.12111722

>>12111712
I would rather have less kai2s and them being good like Bob's than having more and the lazy kai zwei shit happening again.

>> No.12111813

>>12111722
This. Ooi sprite downgrade is outrageous.

>> No.12111822

>>12111702
Kai Ni is not going to save them unless they suddenly get CA-level naked firepower. The only ways to fix this green planes idiocy are to overhaul the air combat mechanics or nerf all the abyss fighters.

>> No.12111833

>>12111722
I'm with this guy. I don't mind less kai2, and I don't mind the blueprint cost, but I expect some nice graphic update. Bismark zwei is just pathetic for example. Bob, on the other hand did a great job. I wouldn't mind Tone hourlies though.

>> No.12111839

>>12111722
Amen to this.

>> No.12111862
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12111862

Let's do our best this week as well!

>> No.12111925

>>12111862
The only quests I've finished all week were the 3 times expedition, 30 times expedition and the equipment construction.
Do you hate me?

>> No.12111958

5-5 attempts again: 3BB 3SS anon here with 22 tries this month here
#23
first node, ring form, only Mutsu took some scratch damage
second node, ring form, perfect S since support took out 3 ships and torps another one
third node, eRe air strike misses, Mutsu eats the torpedo for 38 damage, Re closing torp hits Mutsu AGAIN and she goes red

from my own experiments, double line is actually useful despite the lower offensive power because it increases shelling hit chance and support expeditions rely on your formation choice for damage and hit.

>> No.12111962

>>12111958
Line ahead is better. You don't want the closing torp to happen.

>> No.12111963

>>12111925
There's no excuse for not destroying abyss scum.

>> No.12111970

>>12111962
I just experienced that. Re hit Yamato for 50 damage in first node. And a gold DD crit Shioi for 16 damage. I didn't even see the purpose of continuing from there so I retreated.

>> No.12111991

And that concludes todays tries (I don't have time for me with 3SS because I need them for my dailies)

#23: Retreat at eRe
#24: Retreat first node
#25: Retreat first node (Mutsu orange, Hachi orange, Shioi red)

3k fuel, 2k steel, 2,5k ammo and something like 8 buckets

>> No.12111994

>>12111991
3BB3SS best composition man, no compass trolling!

>> No.12111995

>>12111994
25 runs with 3SS, 23 retreats, 2 failures to kill the boss
Yeah, 'best' composition indeed.

>> No.12112009

>>12111413
"Complain on /jp/" magic works yet again; first equipment daily I get a 12A with 20/60/10/90

>> No.12112010

With a 92% retreat rate, I think I am ready to give up on the 3SS strat. I'm slowly but gradually running lower and lower on res (40k fuel, 25k ammo, 43k steel, 96k bauxite, compared to when I finished the event with 88k fuel, 101k ammo, 77k steel.) so I can't really sustain this. At this rate, I need more than 100 runs to clear it, if that is even enough.

>> No.12112013

Y'all scrubs don't know how to play, the best composition for 5-5 is clearly 3SS2CV1CVL.

The best of both worlds!

>> No.12112015

>>12112010
B-but no compass trolling!

>> No.12112017
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>>12111994
Just take advantage of the recon double attack, it's so broken right now.

>> No.12112023

>>12112009
Why would you use that recipe?

>> No.12112025

>>12112015
So how exactly does compass trolling matter if I can't get past the pre-boss node? Out of 25 runs, I only made it to the boss twice with 3SS and failed to kill it twice.

>> No.12112031

>>12112023
Waste 30 ammo and aim for Reppu/12A is my best guess

>> No.12112033
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>>12112017
Leave me, I'm bored.

>>12112025
Like this.

>> No.12112043

>>12112017
Why AP shell?

>> No.12112047

>>12112033
We're talking about 3SS=no compass trolling
Please take your trolling elsewhere.

>> No.12112057

>>12112023
I fucking swear wikiwiki used to have reports of RK with 90 bauxite, but now that I look back at it I only see 100 as minimum while 90 gets normal Ryuusei.

>> No.12112066

>>12112047
Point is 3SS is shit, man I even bothered to use an exclamation mark and you still don't get my point.

>> No.12112073

>>12112033
I didn't realize Amatsukaze's dress was transparent until now. What a slut.

>> No.12112078

>>12112073
I didn't notice it myself, holy shit.

>> No.12112080

>>12112066
I am too buttblastingly butthurt about getting raped by Re's giant tailcock to understand any sarcasm or implications, anon.

I hope I can get enough res together to clear 5-5 this month

>> No.12112087

>>12112073
But the law of the world is that purest girls have the lewdest outfits. Just look at Shimakaze, she dresses like a semen demon but is just a slightly dense kid.

Amatsukaze is innocent, don't peg her as a slut.

>> No.12112088

>>12112080
Just go east route like a man

>> No.12112089

>>12112088
After getting raped by Re so much I don't think I can still call myself a man.
I'm just Re's personal whore now.

>> No.12112115

>>12112089
Don't worry, even if you can't be a bride anymore, Re will take you.

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>>12112089
Here, have this. my Nagato just one-shotted her at 200HP.

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>>12112130
First try without support fleet, 3BB2CV1CVL master race

>> No.12112144

>>12112115
Re doesn't want me, she just has her way with me and then discards me like trash.
I suppose I'm a Kuso TTK now.

>>12112130
My Bismarck is only 65 so I don't think she's 5-5 able

>>12112137
I am so jealous.

>> No.12112149

>>12112144
Bismarck is actually a worse choice than Kongous at 5-5 because of much lower AA though. I just like to use her.

>> No.12112153

>>12112149
But the AA doesn't matter if you have carriers with AA, doesn't it?

>> No.12112164

>>12112153
They still get to shoot at planes even if they have fighter support.

>> No.12112165

>>12112153
If you can trade BB's AA for a free plane slot, it does.

>> No.12112168

>>12112165
What?

>> No.12112170

>>12112164
>>12112165
Guess that confirms me as a kuso TTK then
I didn't know that ship AA still mattered. So should I go 46 46 Sanshiki recon for air superiority route instead of using AP?

>> No.12112172

>>12112170
Why AP?

>> No.12112177

>>12112170
Air superiority and shooting down planes are 2 different things.

>> No.12112181

>>12112153
Only matters if the ship is targetted by the enemy blue plane. Equipment AA helps the whole fleet though.

>> No.12112183

>>12112172
I thought that if I had air superiority, having extra AA on non-carriers won't matter so AP ammo was the logical choice for the 1.5x damage cut-in, which almost always hits.

But if sanshiki still matters to shoot down the planes that survive the carrier plane fight phase, I'll use that instead.

>> No.12112205

>>12112183
Type 14 is better anyway.

Apparently radar boosts scouted attacks' damage.

>> No.12112217

>>12112205
So, double red + radar + recon on all BBs now? I only have one Type 14 radar and two Type 32 and a few Type 33.

>> No.12112219

>>12112183
Let me put it this way. You get air supremacy, you kill a certain amount of blue planes, reducing the incoming damage by a certain amount. After that, you shoot down more planes depending on your ship's AA stats and your fleet bonus, further reducing more damage.

>>12112205
Radar only increases day cut-in damage. Radar makes your cut-in deal 1.2x and only works when you have one main and one secondary equipped, while AP ammo makes your cut-in deal 1.5x while letting you equip 2 reds.

>> No.12112220

>>12112217
Just saying if you need +AA T14 is better than sanshiki. If you don't, I guess the extra ~10% chance of scouted attack from 2 reds + AP is worth it over the extra AA.

>> No.12112234

>>12112219
Whether you get hurt bad by pre-emptive bombing is pretty much a crapshoot anyway because of the shitty AA mechanics. Either your AA procs or it doesn't. Even if it does, the bulk of the AA is the ship's natural AA plus formation, fleet-wide AA adds a pitiful amount. And it does absolutely nothing for the shelling phase unless you've managed to wipe out all their bombers.

>> No.12112239

>>12112220
>>12112219
I have 410~ air superiority value on carriers and 110, 110, 114 without sanshikis and radars on my BBs (Naga, Mutsu, Yama)
That's their natural AA + 2x 46cm and a recon.
The actual point values of the radar and sanshiki seems irrelevant. From my 5-2 and 5-4 days I really felt no difference between using a radar or not.

The big question here is, AP or Sanshiki? AP lets me do 1.5x FP cut-ins that almost always hit and Sanshiki will, if recon triggers, always double attack.

They need to fix the AA mechanics for Midway, really.

>> No.12112248

>>12112239
Sanshiki and T14 are more or less the same. T14 gives up a little effective AA for +5 accuracy and a smidge of LOS, so it's marginally more useful.

Honestly, I think a big problem with the combat in this game is how equipment is handled. It would be better if we just had hardpoint-esque equipment slots rather than 1-4 slots to put whatever franken-loadout is needed.

>> No.12112252

>>12112239
AP/radar on your slow BBs depending if you want a pure double attack or a cut-in mixed in, radar on Fast BBs.

>> No.12112254

>>12112248
>It would be better if we just had hardpoint-esque equipment slots rather than 1-4 slots to put whatever franken-loadout is needed.
You want to have even less choice?

>> No.12112266

>>12112254
No, I'm thinking of more along the lines of 2-8 hardpoints. Perhaps the ASW side of things might get a little bland but it'd make the choice of guns more interesting.

>> No.12112374

>>12112266
Implement weight limitations too.

A single 46cm turret weighs as much as all the main batteries of a Kongo-class combined, and if you equipped four on them on one, a third of the weight of the ship would be cannons.

>> No.12112408

When I change one ship in a fleet with Akashi, does the counter reset for all ships?

>> No.12112422

>>12112374
Not sure if that's the route to take. This game is already very liberal on realism anyway. I was thinking more along the lines of having multiple slots for different equipment. Something like 3 cannon slots, 2 machine gun slots, 1 hangar, 1 radar and one auxiliary equipment for a fast BB. And make machine guns defend against carrier shelling.

>> No.12112431

>>12112408
It's based on the entire fleet, if you change anything it'll keep resetting.

>> No.12112460

5th fleet for support expeditions only please

>> No.12112470

>>12112460
5th fleet period.

>> No.12112502

Is getting to the boss node on 2-4 really this fucking hard?
I keep getting sent to A-B or A-K and even then I end up on node N or P. I've been trying for 3 days already, this is fucking bullshit.

>> No.12112509

>>12112502
>3 days
Try complaining again two weeks from now.

>> No.12112510

>>12112502
That's usual RNG, nothing out of ordinary. Get used to it or stop playing.

>> No.12112538

>>12112460
2 new fleet slots are opened, and you have to use [document paper] to unlock it. One can be obtained during Midway, but it's also available at cash shop for 10k yen.

>> No.12112579

What's the best 'fuck you' PvP fleet that still allows your opponent to get good XP if he manages to win?

I've decided on the hotels plus Taihou, Kaga and Zuikaku each loaded with 3 green planes and a red plane. What should the last ship be? I was thinking of Yuubari but subs could get lucky and score a hit on her paper-thin ass.

>> No.12112582

>>12112579
Akashi as flagship, don't care about the rest. I just want to put her face on enemy's PVP page.

>> No.12112584

>>12112579
CLT with midget submarine, depth charge, sonar.

You're still a faggot for doing this.

>> No.12112594

>>12112579
There is basically no "fuck you" fleet, if they put SS in the No1 and No6 slot, your fleet will show up as line abreast, and the 4 remaining BBs can usually raping whatever you have while your ships deal scratch damage to them.

>> No.12112600

>>12112594
That's true. Perhaps I should replace one of the CVs with a Nagato-class and hope the cut-in punches through their BBs' armor.

>> No.12112604

>>12112594
But doing that is such a waste of exp, I'd rather eat a lost.

>> No.12112612

>>12112594
If I put a sub as my flagship, wouldn't my fleet be in echelon?

>> No.12112615

best setup IMO red red + ap + seaplane, get 1.5 cut-in OR 1.2 double attack, more chances to not do a single hit

>> No.12112618

>>12112615
Double attack setup has slightly higher expected damage.

>> No.12112619

>>12112579
Hotel, Sushi, Taihou, Kaga, Shioi, Kitakami Kai 2 with depth charge + sonar + type A

>> No.12112638

>>12112612
It will. Putting a CLT in a SS fleet as flagship will make it hard to counter because the line ahead CLT and SS fleet have a decent chance to damage their ASW ships. I'm not sure how much that will help though, because my red damaged CL can still crush player's sub.

>> No.12112643

>>12112619
Yeah, I figured out as much. But if flagship sub overrides their forcing me into line ahead, Shioi as flag would be better to prevent cheesing. Hotels with artillery spotting should be able to damage most targets even with echelon. Also since I'm going echelon, I might as well put my highest-level CL instead of a CLT.

>>12112638
SS PvP fleets are, like you said, easy mode.

>> No.12112645

>>12112618
yea but that's a 50% chance as opposed to a 30%~ for cut-in + 30%~ for double attack so if cut-in doesn't trigger you still get a chance for double attack

>> No.12112654
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I do 5-4 with this fleet.North Drum route.
I'll keep at it until all of them are 90.

Resource wise, I LSC everytime I get together 5k ammo.

Yay/Nay?

>> No.12112663

>>12112579
When I put I-401, Yamato, Musashi, Kiso (depth charge, sonar, minisub), Kaga (4x Reppu) and Goya I usually wake up to see a few challengers lose.

>> No.12112674

is it me or are there alot of errorcats today

>> No.12112809

You guys are assholes.

>> No.12112850
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Holy fuck, its raining sonars.

>> No.12112891

Finally got to the 5-5 boss, I get a red T in disguise, everyone misses, cut-ins miss, everyone attacks re for scratch damage and nobody targets the boss at any point whatsoever.

I fucking hate people who don't have to deal with literal bullshit battle RNG

>> No.12112908

And then I get past Elite Re node with literally everyone in green and eat the dead-end
I swear to god, RNG is just something they give you a range of seeds and some accounts just have non-exception bad ones

>> No.12112926

And eRe ends another run.
I've never actually seen the double line pre-boss with carrier route, not once in something like 20 runs.

>> No.12112932

>>12112908

That's precisely the point when I had to abandon clearing it, struggling to pass elite Re without ships in critical doesn't guarantee that the compass would direct you to the boss. Hence 5-5 is a waste of time unless they'd fix this bullshit. Also what's your composition?

>> No.12112939

Do the nodes affect drops or is rank the only one that does?
For example, does the boss node have a higher chance of dropping a BB compared to the first node?

>> No.12112941

>>12112932
Nagato, Mutsu, Yamato, Taihou, Kaga, Chitose, 98, 98, 97, 80, 92, 90

BBs are 46cm, 46cm, AP, Recon
Carriers are Reppu 3x, RK, Kaga has a RepKai in her big slot.

Route support is 2 DD 2 BB 2 CV
Boss support is 2 DD 4 CV with half attack planes, half green (reppu/shiden)
Lots of radars on everyone in support (Two T22 on each DD,One T33 on CVs and BBs, the difference is very noticeable, gonna add more radars)

So far, 12 runs, 1 boss visit
Retreat at first node: 1
Retreat at second node: 0
Retreat at Elite Re: 6
(Breakdown of above)
Retreat due to CV in red at elite Re: 5
Retreat at eRe due to eRe bombing, torpedoing the same ship: 2
Retreat at eRe due to eRe shelling the same ship twice / shelling who was torpedo'd: 4

Dead-ends: 5
Boss visit: 1
Boss kill: 0
Boss hit at all: 0

>>12112939
Nodes have different drop pools

>> No.12112948

>>12112939
Yes, all nodes have a different ship pools, so you couldn't expect to get BB from node that doesn't drop them, even if you score perfect S.

And ranking does affect too, you could get better drops from a better rank (it's also RNG in the end).

>> No.12112950

>>12112941
Where's your Musashi?

>> No.12112954

>>12112950
Being held captive by asshole devs that don't add her to LSC.
Not that it would help much considering my CVs get torpedo'd to red or shot to red.

>> No.12112993

Upcoming drama CD titles:

>> No.12112997

>>12112993
Keyboard shortcuts, man.

Side Kongou
「vol.1 比叡、カレーを作る」
Hiei makes Curry. Will presumably feature 8 characters all voiced by one VA. I'm sure you know which one.

Sea Mine Squadron
「vol.2 暁の夢」
Akatsuki's dream

>> No.12113013

Are you guys using carriers for PvP, now that day battle recon requires air superiority?

>> No.12113016

>>12113013
Yeah, it's a good way to level them without wasting bauxite.

>> No.12113067

>>12112941
>Boss support is 2 DD 4 CV with half attack planes, half green (reppu/shiden)
What the fuck, support fighters are irrelevant for the air superiority.

>> No.12113072

>>12113067
I saw this in a nip video and it seemed to pretty much kill any attack power and accuracy the Wo in that node have

>> No.12113077

>>12113072
Shit.

Is that real /jp/?

But no, fuck that, support comes after air battle.

>> No.12113084

>>12112997
>Akatsuki's dream

Does she awaken from it and find herself to be a monstrous insect?

>> No.12113101

>>12113077
Air support comes before air battle

>> No.12113115
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12113115

How much testing has been done on whether two of the same ship can perform differently? Will a crafted Akagi be the same kind of unnatural crit magnet as the quest one?

>> No.12113127

>>12113115
I swear, if every ship, had like a randomised luck stat or something similiar to IVs from pokemon. I would be so frustrated, but luckily, it isn't like that.

>> No.12113133

>>12113127
"Oh yeah got Yamato, finally after sixty attem- Oh fuck this shit, she has zero IVs in attack and defense."

>> No.12113135

>>12113127
>>12113133
Just imagine if they had shiny kanmusus.

>> No.12113138

>>12113135
Would those always count as sparkled for expeditions?

>> No.12113139

>>12113138
Nope, they give a resource gain bonus of 5% each up to a max of 20% in the fleet (they stack).

>> No.12113152

>>12113138
>>12113139
Or they could be only has different pose or different coloring.

Will you farm for them?

>> No.12113153

>>12113139
Worst rarity bonus ever. Should at least have a direct combat advantage so the game can become more autism-to-win.

>> No.12113157

>>12113152
I sure as hell wouldn't, if I got lucky getting one I would keep her though.

>>12113153
Then they would also theoretically evade and hit slightly more often, that way people could still say they are placebo bonuses.

>> No.12113158

>>12113135
Kanmusu becomes a 'shiny' when you marry them then

>> No.12113167

>>12113152
Of course I will, waddaya think? My autism will never let me have empty cards in kantaidex.

>> No.12113173

>>12113167
Even Bismarck zwei?

>> No.12113176

>>12113173
Poor Bismarck, her second remodel is literally only good for those AA guns.

>> No.12113179

>>12113176
You can get those from the DD if you really want them.

>> No.12113181

>>12113179
Yeah, but Bismarck gets her zwei at 50 and they are an extra from Z1's and Z3's. Now if only these guns had any special characteristic or advantage other than a single point of this and that here and there.

>> No.12113184

>>12113181
I'd rather level 2 DD to 70 than 1 BB to 50 + paying 4 medals

>> No.12113186

>>12113184
Me too, I'm just saying that's the only remarkable "good" thing about her second remodel.

>> No.12113187

>>12113181
>>12113184
>>12113186
I'm just going to hold out hope that the devs buff her stats to compete better sometime down the road.

>> No.12113188
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>>12113173
Sure. If every ship got such a wonderful and delicious belly after zwei+blueprint I'd start leveling my ships ASAP.

>> No.12113189

>>12113187
We hoped that zwei would do exactly that, but instead it made her worse considering the high increase in consumtion.

>> No.12113196

>>12113189
Well, to look at a glass half full, you're paying the fuel and ammo for Hotel-class HP and Kongou-class speed. If only those mattered more.

>> No.12113200

>>12113196
But Kai already does that, no need for zwei.

>> No.12113209

>>12113200
Point taken, but I still do wonder how the devs justify doing things like buffing CA firepower just a few points. How much of a difference did that really make, and how high would be reasonable enough for the Aryan Princess?

>> No.12113211

>>12113209
Those CA didn't suddenly turn into gluttons.
The next to non existant stat increase is already an insult to the need of a blueprint here. Combined with the consumption, it's just terrible.

>> No.12113214

>>12113211
She was shit to begin with, at least the zwei is a visual upgrade

>> No.12113215

>>12113214
That's a pretty expensive belly button.

>> No.12113216

>>12113211
>The next to non existant stat increase
Must have something to do with the level requirement for her Kai Zwei.
Kongous need level 75, while she only needs level 50.

>> No.12113217

>>12113215
Poking her belly button feels so good though.

>> No.12113223

>>12113216
Ise-class at level 10 doesn't get less than the Fusou at level 20.
Maya is still the CA with best AA while having a lower remodel level.
Hibiki has the highest remodel level but isn't the strongest DD.
And Bismarck even needs a blueprint, and you can currently only get 1 in 2 months.

>> No.12113224

>>12113215
In b4 Haruna belly button blueprint

>> No.12113227

>>12113223
Maya's edge is really small now, and I personally prefer to use Tone/Chikuma kai2.

>> No.12113228

>>12113224
Would gladly pay a blueprint to prevent monkey-ear syndrome

>> No.12113231

>>12113227
Yes, but she's still better off compared to other CA.
Tone-class got buffed with their blueprint-remodels, as you'd expect it from a remodel requiring blueprints.

>> No.12113236

>>12113231
You seem to be forgetting the massive sprite upgrade

>> No.12113241

>>12113236
For Tone-class? Has probably more to do with the artist than the blueprint-requirment.
For Bismarck? Well, like I said before, it's a pretty expensive belly button.

>> No.12113262

You'll probably hate me for this but let's ask nonethelesss.

I'm on 3-2. I want to get 5 specific destroyers for that map: Yuudachi, Yukikaze, Hibiki, Shigure and Shimakaze.

And the only one I'm missing is Shimakaze. I've lost count of how many times I've tried to craft her. I've even got 4 Yukikazes and 3 extra subs in the process. I've also tried to get her as a drop.

All this on the last 3 days.

Is there no other way to get her?

>> No.12113264

>>12113262
RNG at work. Jut suck it up and use someone else, you're wasting your time.

>> No.12113266

>>12113262
Try grind at 2-4-A, apparently it drops her, but I can't confirm this.

Also you could substitute Shimakaze for other DD, you know.

>> No.12113271

>>12113266
2-4-A drops her allright. I got, like, 3 or 4 there while leveling BBs there after being bitch slapped by Flagship Ru repeatedly.

>> No.12113281

>>12113262
The more you want, the less your chance will be

>> No.12113284

>>12113262
F node is pure luck. Super DDs will not help you that much. Just use whatever highest level DDs you have and pray for the best.

>> No.12113290

>>12113262
Go get your shit DD at 2-4-A it's easy

>> No.12113291

>>12113262
I wanted to do the same thing but I missed Yukikaze. I finally gave up on it and got my beaver at 5-4, it's not worth it to wait.

>> No.12113297

>>12113284
>>12113266
>>12113264

Call me autist but I want the best destroyers and I refuse to settle for less. The only exception is Sazanami since it was my first ship and I want to give her the love she deserves.

>> No.12113298

>>12113297
But best destroyers are Mutsukies.

>> No.12113299

>>12113297
I did 3-2 with Mutsuki-class and Sazanami, it's cheaper way to do it just like 5-3

>> No.12113301

>>12113297
It's not about autism, Let's say you get Shimakaze right now. What are you going to do, grind the rest of the destroyers to kai ni in 3-2-1? Are you seriously planning to spend a week non-stop on the same map just to clear a map that isn't even worth it in the grand scheme of things?

>> No.12113305

>>12113297
You know you need to do that map again with 4 Mutsukis as a quest?

>> No.12113307

Or you can just use throwaway DDs. Take 3 supers and fill the rest with girls whose sacrifice will not affect you. Easiest way to do a lot of maps actually.

>> No.12113309
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>>12113307
>you can just use throwaway DDs

>> No.12113310

>>12113307
That's just terrible

>> No.12113311

>>12113309
Yes, Akebono, you was the first throwaway DD I purposefully sank right after I heard your introduction line.

>> No.12113313

>>12113311
She was right.

>> No.12113315

>>12113311
You just proved she was right

>> No.12113316

>>12113301

Welp, I was planning to grind then unti kai at least.

>>12113305
Welp, I've got the queest to assemble then already but I need one more.

>> No.12113317

>>12113307
You are a cruel admiral, not caring about all your ship daughters.

>> No.12113319

>>12113309

talking about Akebono. I've got this bug since some weeks in which her sprite never loads. Cleared my cache and all that stuff.

>> No.12113320

>>12113319
Renew API and clear it again.

>> No.12113321

>>12113319
Cache her sprite, stop deleting it.

>> No.12113322

>>12113317
I'm not cruel. I just use efficient methods. You can quickly amass huge amount of common DDs via 1-1 Chito/Chiyo A slaughter practically for free. Using them as modernization fodder is not as efficient as using them for sacrificial throwaways for things that actually matter, that's all.

>> No.12113345

>>12113322
Please tell me more about how to use then as sacrifices.

>> No.12113522
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12113522

Guys, which node in world 2 drop Kaga? Playing for 2 weeks and craft doesn't work for me. Want her so bad

>> No.12113526

>>12113522
All boss nodes.

>> No.12113528

>>12113522
wiki

>> No.12113541

>>12113526
>>12113528
I see, thanks. Didn't know that wiki have drop list.

>> No.12113545

>>12113541
Don't underestimate the wiki.

>> No.12113581

>>12113541
The wiki knows it all. It had day battle double attack mechanics a day after they were implemented, it pushed the Iona recipes long before they were popular, it lists the exact length and thickness of Goya's penis.

>> No.12113716

Did they change something within the game recently? This week's reset, I keep getting errorcat whenever I try to play without VPN.
Using the VPN to login and load the game is fine but whenever I turn it off and move a few screens in the game, errorcat shows up.

I tried playing with API only and the same thing happens.

Using normal browser + VPN to play, usually I would turn off VPN when the game loads and everything would still play fine, but after this week's reset, I get this problem, any ideas?

>> No.12113723

>>12113541
The drop list and the stat comparisons are about all the english wiki is good for. But you can't trust it during events.

>> No.12113728

>>12113723
Just keep away from the comments and take all the guides-like information as personal opinions from some contributor instead of facts and you should be fine.

>> No.12113730

>>12113723
>drop list
No. just checking wikiwiki's list is the best choice.

>> No.12113755

>>12113541
>>12113723
Drop list may contain troll entries, though. According to English wiki, Hachi dropped on E-4-A, while wikiwiki clearly stated: boss node only. I recommend wikiwiki.

>> No.12113759

Is there a new chart for LSC? the chart from wiki is so outdated now.

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>>12113759

>> No.12113785

>>12113716
no one else having this problem? I tried clearing cache and using different browsers, all the same thing. Game was working fine before this week's reset.

>> No.12113786

>>12113764
thanks anon!

>> No.12113792

>>12113785
No idea. Try the cookie method

>> No.12113872

>>12113792
plz teach me how senpai!!

>> No.12113877

>>12113872
Stop shitposting.

>> No.12113969

God damn, the longer I have Sakawa, the more she grows on me. I just can't get bored of her lines. She's just way too cute.

>> No.12114075

>>12113969
And to think there are people who could have gotten her, but didn't because "not worth it for shitty CL".

>> No.12114079

>>12114075
What equipment does she give on remodel again?

>> No.12114099

>>12114079
Who needs equipment when you have Sakawa? I can craft my things myself, I don't need to farm ship girls for them.

>> No.12114148

>>12114079
Your point is? Do you scrap all ships after you get their remodel equipment?

>> No.12114168

>>12114148
It just means that she is a shitty CL who was not worth the trouble of doing E-5 for.
Look at Amatsukaze and Akashi, that's what I call useful.

>> No.12114180

>>12114168
No, it means your priorities are fucked. I don't give a fuck about remodel equipment when I can have such amount of cuteness that is second only to Taihou.

>> No.12114185

>>12114180
>such amount of cuteness that is second only to Taihou.
Sorry, I forgot some people loved flat things.

>> No.12114186

>>12114168
>Amatsukaze
She has barely better stats than Kagerou class. She is nowhere close to the level of the 5 special DD.
The saving grace is the sonar 3, and even so you should already have plenty of them.

>Akashi
Are you THAT jew with buckets or something? Unless she can repair midsortie, she doesn't give any major usefulness in there.

I like both of them as well, but don't start claiming they are "more useful" than Sakawa. They arguably aren't.

>> No.12114190

>>12114186
>The saving grace is the sonar 3
Are you forgetting her special boiler on purpose?
>Are you THAT jew with buckets or something?
Yes I am that jew with buckets.

>> No.12114197

>>12114190
>boiler
Right, giving barely 3 more than a normal boiler, which is at best 1.5 evasion.
To begin with: do you really use boiler?

>> No.12114200

>>12114186
One man's trash is another man's treasure.
Akashi is useful if you know how to use her properly.

>> No.12114201

>>12114197
Yes I do. I'm not 100% sure they are useful but I still do.

>> No.12114205

>>12114186
Amatsukaze has outstanding armor and decent overall stats and Akashi is the only of her class while Sakawa is just another Agano-class.
Sorry, but Sakawa is less useful simply because she can be replaced by Yahagi, who has slightly better stats.

If you're going for cuteness, usefulness doesn't matter anyway.

Though you're right that the other Anon judging ships by remodel-equipment is retarded.

>> No.12114206

>>12114200
You mean the one that actually uses more resources to repair when compared to using docks?

>> No.12114209

>>12114206
She doesn't use more resources unless you interrupt the repair.

>> No.12114214

>>12114205
>judging ships by remodel-equipment is retarded.
How so? If you had to choose between levelling to remodel level a Hiei or a Kirishima which one would you choose?

>> No.12114218

>>12114214
Hiei because I don't like miccheck's kai2 art.

>> No.12114220

>>12114214
Kirishima, much sexier.

>> No.12114221

>>12114218
Right, enjoy getting raped in night battle then.

>> No.12114223

>>12114221
Enjoy leveling ships you don't really like just for stats and gear.
And I already have searchlight

>> No.12114224

>>12114221
I have two searchlights and never used one. I also beat E5 in the past event first days.

>> No.12114229

>>12114221
Searchlights don't do much anyway. Besides, you don't have to choose which ship to remodel.

Equipment just matters if you want to farm ships for that equipment, otherwise it's a nice bonus at best.

>> No.12114231

>>12114223
I should have just said: If you had to choose between levelling an ugly ship which gives sanshiki when remodelling and an ugly ship which gives searchlight granted that you don't have these two.

>> No.12114234

>>12114231
Handsome is not ugly. Konishi seriously ruined Kirishima's kai2 though.

>> No.12114236

>>12114234
>Handsome is not ugly.
I never said she was ugly I just wanted to give an example.

>> No.12114239

>>12114231
If you just want a searchlight, you go for Jintsuu.
If you just want a Sanshiki, you craft one.

It's funny that you ignore the stat-difference between those 2 and just go for the equipment.

>> No.12114246

By that stupid logic, I shouldn't even bother grinding and remodeling Mu-chan and Nagamon because they only provide 41cm, no shell or gimmicky equipement.

Retardation much?

Dear god, people can also grind ships for their stats, or for their voices/arts. If equipment was everything, we wouldn't even bother with CA and CL to begin with.

>> No.12114247

>>12114239
That's because the whole point of this discussion was to prove that Sakawa was not a ship worth the effort of doing E-5 except of course if you've nearly finished the game and have nothing to spend your resources on.
She is good for nothing, not even giving good equipment.

>> No.12114250

>>12114234
Konishi seriously ruined Hiei's feathered hair.

>>12114246
You are using the logic in a completely different situation.

>> No.12114251

Is 2-2 and the expeditions the only way to got bauxite? I keep running out.
Expedition is to slow and I have to keep repairing my subs when farming 2-2.

>> No.12114256

>>12114251
Deal with it.

>> No.12114257

>>12114251
4-3 if you have unlocked it already.

>> No.12114259

>>12114256
That's what I'm doing. I'm farming a bunch of subs to use so I don't have to wait for the repair.

>>12114257
I don't. Guess I'll farm more subs then.

>> No.12114261

>>12114251

Exp 6, don't go use retarded set ups on your CVs.

That should be enough.

>> No.12114262

>>12114261
And sparkled exp15 during sleeping hours.

>> No.12114266

>>12114262
15 takes too long

>> No.12114275

>>12114266
Don't you sleep at least 9 hours a day?

>> No.12114279

>>12114275
15 takes 12 hours and no.

>> No.12114283

>>12114279
Yes, just send it a bit earlier so it matches your waking up time or working/studying hours.

>> No.12114285

>>12114261
But I do a lot of 3-2 farming.

>> No.12114292

>>12114283
What if I sleep 4 hours, don't work nor study?

>> No.12114297

>>12114292
give me your address so i can move in with you

>> No.12114298

>>12114285
Costs like 10 or 15 bauxite

>> No.12114299

>>12114292
So sad...
Do exp 11 then.

>> No.12114300

What's the level of your Yamato-class?

>> No.12114303

>>12114297
I'm paranoid, I wouldn't even tell you in which country I live.

>>12114299
I have been doing that for a month actually, I'm not the first guy who is lacking bauxite though.

>> No.12114307

>>12114300
99

>> No.12114308

>>12114300
78

>> No.12114309

>>12114300
None

>> No.12114310

>>12114300
62.

>> No.12114314

>>12114300
Yamato: 97
Musashi: 98

>> No.12114408

>>12114300
31.
I just got Yamato 2 days ago,

>> No.12114409

>>12114300
88/78

>> No.12114416

How often do you guys LSC?

>> No.12114419

>>12114416
I completed LSC recently

>> No.12114421

>>12114416
How many dev mats do you get from exp 35 and Quest per day?

>> No.12114426

>>12114416
At least 4times per week, but mostly 6-8 per week.

>> No.12114431

>>12114416
Every day recently, I just passed over 1kk resources sinked - 350k of which are for Akitsumaru, who I still don't have. LSCuffering.jpg

>> No.12114434

>>12114416
Doing it as much possible with the timers running to control myself a bit. Trying to get Yahagi from minimum.

>> No.12114437

>>12114416
Used to do it once a day, now moving to the bi-daily routine cause I'm running out of devmats.

>> No.12114449

>>12114437
Are you using the placebo recipes with 20 devmats?

>> No.12114451

>>12114449
Yes. I also only craft at midnight in JST time.

>> No.12114453

>>12114451
Do you also do a voodoo dance?

>> No.12114455

>>12114453
No, but I'm contemplating offering curry as a sacrifice.

>> No.12114457

>>12114449
When did everything become placebo.

>> No.12114460

>>12114455
Who are you going for? I would bet an arm that Taihou doesn't like spicy curry by the way.

>> No.12114465

>>12114460
You guessed right.
>Taihou doesn't like spicy curry
At least I'm not offering her chili.

>> No.12114471

>>12114460
Flatchested girls can like spicy food. Just remember Angel Beats' Tenshi, who loved mapo tofu.

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>>12114465

>> No.12114486

>>12114481
pls no bully

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>>12114486

>> No.12114496

Where you guys go read Kancolle translated doujins besides sad panda?

>> No.12114512

>>12114496
Batoto and Danbooru.

>> No.12114727
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Tanikaze is for _____

>> No.12114731

>>12114416
Once a day, alternating between 1 and 20 dev mats.

>> No.12114798

>>12114416
Whenever I feel like it. It's superstitious but whimsical build is better than going in for a purpose.

>> No.12114834

What's the fastest way to level a DD to 65?

Grinding is so painful in this game, I seriously don't see why they require tons of xp to grind levels.
Wish they made the game a true TCG without shitty leveling of cards/ships.

>> No.12114840

>>12114834
PvP flagship. 5-1/4-1/4-3/5-2 sub hunt. CA is probably the hardest to grind.

>> No.12114845

>>12114840
>CA is probably the hardest to grind
Not after the recon update, they're not.

>> No.12114846

>>12114834
>a true TCG
So what, even more luck based with a healthy dose of pay to win? With the distance between major updates it's easy to pace yourself leveling a fleet in PvP and the typical grind spots.

>> No.12114847

>>12114834

With love of course.

>> No.12114851

>>12114840
>>12114845
Would be nice if the lowered the xp per levels, it's just a big waste of time clicking through menus to "extend" the game that everyone just uses goddam macros to play. What the heck were they thinking with the xp requirements.

>> No.12114855

>>12114851
It's the lesser of two evils or would you have preferred korean MMO style of grinding? Besides unless you're grinding for marriage, level 65 is still manageable by PvP alone. Just be patient.

>> No.12114856

>>12114846
Clicking through menus a thousand times over isn't fun or hard at all, it's just tedious. I don't believe you actually enjoy the "game" aspect of kancolle do you?

They could've made a game with actual gameplay mechanics instead of 99% of the gameplay being clicking through menus.

>> No.12114858

>>12114855
But most korean style games are action games, so even if you're grinding at least you're playing a game as opposed to menu clicking.

PVP is way too slow, you only get 10 fights a day and that also depends on your opponent not having a low level 1-2nd ship.

I hope one of the spin-off games is a good TCG

>> No.12114864

>>12114858
>PVP is way too slow
You're just being impatient. How have you not realised that kancolle is all about patience and taking it easy?

>> No.12114867

I was bored
Some people here might also play LLSIF so I made something interesting

http://pastebin.com/s06a3Mmj

All ships and their Kai / Kai 2 by rarity.
Yahagi and Kitakami are the only ships that jump 2 ranks (Yahagi from 4 to 6, Kitakami from 3 to 5) and Mutsu, Nagato, Taihou and Bismarck are the only ships that do not change ranks at all

>> No.12114871

>>12114864
I wish it was all about strategic play on demand instead.

Taking it easy still takes the amount of repetition to reach your required remodel level, and that's just no fun no matter how easy you take it.

>> No.12114873

>>12114864
I grinded Yamato into the 60s entirely with PvP in a fairly short time, but the last update seriously ruined PvP. Akashi fleets and and choice of wasting loads of bauxite or getting wrecked by double attacks whenever the opponent has carriers. I was fighting nearly every opponent I ever got back then, now I'm usually only fighting a few each day because most aren't even worth bothering with.

>> No.12114875

>>12114873
You need to get better at PVP
I level my Yamato as flag and always have 2 dead-weights and still S rank every fleet, even if it's 3BB3CV or something silly like that.
And I basically never use CVs PVP unless there are no enemy CV/Ls

Literally git gud

>> No.12114877

>>12114867
What about DDs' Kai Nis?

>> No.12114881

>>12114875
I think the problem is the Recon update gives a lot more edge to the enemy's fleet making PvP harder.

>> No.12114884

>>12114881
And? I am S ranking all PVP matches every day
I only skipped out some troll fleets during the events like a level 1 sakawa and a level 1 tanikaze with four 80+ ships

>>12114877
Oh, right I forgot about those
Bep, Poi, Guntank all jump 2 level from Kai to Kai 2
So does Tone-class from Kai to Kai 2

>> No.12114892

I do PVP with subs.

>> No.12114894

>>12114884
How do you mitigate the double attacks during day time then? 3 CLTs? Full subs?

>> No.12114895

>>12114892
Gotta get that sweet, sweet EXP:resource ratio with the least expensive class in the game amiright

>> No.12114900

>>12114895
Optimization at its finest.

>> No.12114901

>>12114894
I just tank them with Yamato + 2/3BB + 2/3 deadweights (most of the deadweights are asw ships)
Not all BBs have double attack setup, then it also doesn't always trigger
Some PVPs I have to go into night battle or reset a few times to S rank it

>> No.12114904

>>12114901
Ah, I see. I have forgotten about resetting PvP.

>> No.12114905

>>12114901
>reset
ok discussion's over

>> No.12114908

>>12114905
Such jelly

>> No.12114910
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Fucking finally.

I don't want to do this every month. I hope the lower maps get extra missions soon.

>> No.12114913

>>12114905
Nothing wrong with reset if the most bullshit situations happen. But resetting a match if one loses a match fair and square is a bit dubious. Then again, that's my personal preference.

>> No.12114916

>>12114913
>bullshit happens
I fucking hate it when an easy match shows up but all of my ships miss and take crits to the face.

>> No.12114923

>>12114916
Or your expedition fleet getting a red T-cross on a fleet full of level ones.

>> No.12114932

>>12114908
>>12114913
what's the point in boasting about gitting gud in pvp if you're just going to reset everytime you get anything less than an S or win.

>> No.12114934
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12114934

Hey!

>> No.12114936

>>12114932
PVP is nothing more than an easy EXP platform.
Every loss adds to your profile as well. As you said, there is no point in boasting about PVP, because it's incredibly stupid to eat a loss.

>> No.12114938

>>12114932
It depends, if I'm going against a full fleet and get less than stellar result, I'm going to admit my loss and go about my business. However, if my expedition fleet get less than a S rank, I would be resetting.

>> No.12114939

>>12114923

Not to be spoonfed or anything, but how do I cheat PvP anyway when T-red happens?

>> No.12114958

>>12114939
Using saiun before PVP, to prevent red T
Or using API link + Flash to easy reset.

>> No.12114965

>>12114939
Just abuse the fact you're not playing through DMM and give the developers one more reason to bring back API refresh.

>> No.12114969
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>>12114934
Good afternoon, Kongou.

Would you like a cup of tea?

>> No.12114972

>>12114965
Why did they undo the API refresh anyway?
When it was first introduced I was like "finally, I can quit this game" but then a day later my buddy told me the API refresh was rid of.

>> No.12114974

>>12114972
The API refresh puts too much load on their server.

>> No.12114977

>>12114969
I really like how artists are depicting all sorts of admirals from a dog to a robot.

>> No.12114981

>>12114910
what formation did you use on all nodes?

>> No.12114982

>>12114977
More like they're mostly self-inserts. I recall that suetake loved shiba dogs and that's why he draws himself as a shiba admiral.

>> No.12114992

>>12114982
Someone needs to relieve niwatazumi of her sexual frustration then. It's clear from her drawins of herself getting nearly raped by her ships.

>> No.12114997

>>12114982
For self-inserts they could be a whole lot worse. I'm glad the anime made the decision to not show the admiral because it'd kill a lot of that creativity. Like after the Idolm@ster anime aired most fanart began using producers that were just a generic long dark haired guy in glasses.

>> No.12115009

Which one is better, expedition 5 + 21 or 37 + 38? All sparkles, of course.

>> No.12115010

>>12114884
All the tier zeros jump two ranks on Kai besides the AV sisters, but I don't think anybody is going to marvel at a jump from zero to two.

>>12114851
I never used a macro or spammed the first node of anything. In just eight short months I've gotten Yamashiro just one level short of marriage! (Though I wasn't planning on marrying her.)

Also, I never do my quests, except repair, three expedition, the first few combat quests, and sometimes construction.

>> No.12115014

>>12115009
I run 5+38. Since ammo is not a problem for me.

>> No.12115024

Probably late to the party but oh god, my dick. Atago's ぱんぱかぱーん!was a bit disappointing though and nothing could match Takao's voice.

>> No.12115037

Newbie question here. How can an admiral with level around the 70s can have a kanmusu of over 100
I know in my playstyle I level several different girls instead of focusing on very few, but still I've seen some images on wiki of admirals with a level almost half of their married kanmusu. I'm asking because the worst thing besides rng in the game is leveling your admiral hq for me, and it goes terribly fast.

>> No.12115041

>>12115037
PvP, tight focus (focus on that few girls), good grind spot and little sub-slaving are the few things I can think of. Of course, the type of ship matters as well, it's way much easier to level up CV, BB and CLT than CA, DD or CL.

>> No.12115046
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>>12114981
Not him, but line ahead on every node.

>> No.12115053

>>12115037
Don't go to any boss node unless it's required for clearing or daily quest.
Don't do subslaving at 2-2 or 2-3.
PVP is a must.

>> No.12115057
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12115057

>>12115046
This hurt.. but thanks I finally reached boss node.
should I bring Nagato?

>> No.12115147

>>12115057
The only real difference is slightly more AA on Nagato, and I doubt you'll notice it doing anything.

>> No.12115164

How do you beat someone with a 5-5 fleet?

>> No.12115170

>>12115164
its not that hard.

>> No.12115171

>>12115164
Maruyu

>> No.12115175

>>12115164
Just go with the casual 2BB 2CV 2CLT and pray that RNG goddess will be by your side.

>> No.12115184

>>12115164
F5 until you win

>> No.12115185

http://pastebin.com/GFn8kNQ0

I was incredibly bored
So I gave every ship a unique ability they gain at level 99, making level 99 actually useful without marriage.

>> No.12115190

the moment when you got through at the 5-5 boss then you get red t-cross.......

>> No.12115194

>>12115185
>Taihou - Voids damage to all flat-chested ships (Number of flatchested ships in fleet) times
You probably alreay know this, but you really need to go entertain yourself somehow. Get another job if you already have one or something.

>> No.12115195

>>12115190
I got T-green, they hit-crit all ship but the flag wo..
sunk all enemy ships except wo and that troll subs.

time for ragebate.

>> No.12115197

>>12115194
I don't understand why you specifically quoted Taihou's ability to say that
It's not like there are that many flatchested ships you want in a strong fleet and with a second shelling phase, air strike and preemptive torpedo you're still looking at a few attacks

>> No.12115198

>>12115197
Because that one just stuck out there the most. You know, like how a flat chest doesn't. I'll leave.

>> No.12115200

>>12115198
Have you not read Takao and Atago's?
Or Ooi's?

>> No.12115201

>>12115200
I read it all, but Taihou's... I just don't know what to say.

>> No.12115205

>>12115201
Too much poking fun at her flatness? Too powerful? Also, about Ryuujous, well...

>> No.12115218
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12115218

Tried that Gundam Unicorn song this time. Apparently works in day battles as well as night battles.

>> No.12115251 [DELETED] 

Anyone knows of a good LSC jinx? I've been LSCing since last december and I've never gotten any of the "grand prizes".
The only characters in the album I'm currently missing is Taihou, Yamato, and Bismarck.

Well, and Chikuma K2, but I'm working on that.

>> No.12115296

>>12115218
I wonder if nips have a LSC voodoo BGM

>> No.12115297

>>12115296
Try that Gundam UC song.

>> No.12115298

>>12115297
play it backwards.

>> No.12115300

>>12114867
>Rarity 5 (Ultra Rare, Vibrant Holo)
>Amatsukaze Kai 2
what

>> No.12115302

>>12115300
Typos.
They happen.
Do not judge.

>> No.12115305 [DELETED] 
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12115305

"You copy the url for the game window"
What does that mean exactly? Just the URL that's in my browser? That seems to be a lot different from what is show in the image so I'm wondering what to do.

>> No.12115309
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12115309

>>12115305
It means API link

>> No.12115312
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12115312

Someone should build a fusou-class tower stacking game.

>> No.12115313

>>12115312
I admit I laughed much harder than I should have.

>> No.12115314

>>12114867
Wait aren't there 3 shades of blue?
Also don't Shigure and Yuudachi jump two ranks too.

>> No.12115317

>>12115314
There are lots of slight discolorations on 0 rarity cards and I didn't see the point to make a dozen 0.x rarity ranks

>> No.12115319

>>12115317
>There are lots of slight discolorations on 0 rarity cards
No, there's only 3.
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Ship

>> No.12115324

>>12115319
Meh, pointless to re-do the list. It wouldn't change the rare and above grades (only the number) and pointlessly split grade 0 into super common and very common

>> No.12115337

Do you think we will ever see a new non-boss enemy carrier class?

>> No.12115341

>>12115337
Well, there's still CVB to add, unless you count Re as one, but it probably won't appear until Shinano is introduced.

>> No.12115344

>>12115341
USS Midway was a bit too late for ww2

>> No.12115345

>>12115341
Oh, sorry if I worded it poorly but I just meant a new carrier.Llike BB's have Ru and Ta but we always have Wo for carriers.

>> No.12115389

>>12115337
>>12115344
>>12115345
There's still the Royal Navy's armored carriers though.

>> No.12115392

>>12115389
CVB = carrier large, not armored carrier

>> No.12115411

>>12115185
>RJ
You really like that picture, don't you?

>> No.12115421
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12115421

>>12115411
Can you really blame me? That RJ makes all other carriers look lame.

>> No.12115435

>>12115185
>Akitsumaru
If that happened I could see everyone leveling three of them to 100.

>> No.12115470

>>12115421
Was cache editing banable?

>> No.12115472

>>12115470
Yes, if they catch you.

>> No.12115478
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>>12115472
Well, I can't find shipgirl images in cache anyway.

>> No.12115510
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12115510

Is there any point in keeping spare lv1 carriers if you don't intend on letting any of your originals sink?

>> No.12115512

>>12115510
No.

>> No.12115515

>>12115510
If I buy all slots then I will keep all duplicate of rare ship, but because I only have 100 slots, no I don't see any point keeping them.

>> No.12115516

>>12115510
There is no point in keeping any spares since ships only sink when you do something very, very wrong. Only spares worth keeping are those you actually use.

>> No.12115517

>>12115478
You won't get unbanned if you edit only images. You need to extract them from the .swf files. You also need to create a local cache copy and make it read-only to prevent it from getting rewritten.

>> No.12115519

>>12115512
>>12115515
>>12115516
Ok, looks like my Kongous are going to be fully modernized then.

>> No.12115522

Now I found them. I only need to find RJ one from 127 .swfs. When's the next lottery?

>> No.12115523
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12115523

>>12115517
You was a little too late, I already found them by myself.

>> No.12115529

>>12115517
banned*

>> No.12115534

>>12115529
I hope you're speaking truth. I'm going to create a new account to test waters for few days just in case.

>> No.12115545
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12115545

Bingo!

>> No.12115565
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12115565

>>12115545
Wait, so what you are doing now is telling me this may actually be a real thing, now photoshopped or what. Some sneaky guy may already did it months ago.

>> No.12115571

>>12115565
Of course. Making sprite is hardest thing. I suck at photoshop so it's going to take a lot of time to cut half-decent sprites for RJ from that pic.

>> No.12115628

>>12115515
I have 170 slots but I don't keep duplicates anyways, only ones I have are Zuikaku and Zuihou for their different skin after remodel.
2 ships left to complete the kancolledex and up to 6x of each sub don't leave you with much spare room anyways

>> No.12115634
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12115634

>>12115545
Here's a pic of best RJ.

>> No.12115675

>>12115571
People just take pixiv arts.

>> No.12115700

What's the most cost efficient fleet for farming 3-2? Right now I have 2CV, 1BB, 1SS and 1CLT + flagship I want to level. Should I replace the CV for CLV? And do I even need the CLT or can I add in another SS?

>> No.12115701

>>12115700
Whatever ships you want to level. 1 SS + 1 BB + 1 CV and any 3 ships, put the ships you want to level the most on the top slot

>> No.12115715

>>12115701
I tried that but I can't seem to kill them before the shelling phase which hurts my sub and have to wait 30+ minutes to finish repairing.
But I guess that makes sense since I don't have to make multiple runs for multiple ships.

>> No.12115723

>>12115700
Ship you want to level + 5xCV/CVL loaded with ryuusei/reyuusei kai.
Or ship you want to level + 4xCV/CVL + 1BB. Swap out BB when they're fatigued.
CV opening attack can kill everything in 3-2-A even with 0 morale (the only exception is that annoying gold CL).
CLT opening torpedo sucks at 0 morale.

>> No.12115724

>>12115700
Definitely replace your CV with CVL, armed them with blues and Saiun. If possible, remove the BB and replace them with reliable CA. If you don't have them, 1 BB will be good enough. I don't bring SS to 3-2 as it's too risky.

>> No.12115739

>>12115724
What's risky about bringing an SS? It makes sure everyone else is safe there.

>> No.12115744

>>12115739
If I remember correctly, some composition has DD/CL that carries depth charge and sonar. I rather have some scratch damages than to see a sub getting to orange.

>> No.12115752

>>12115744
That's the job of a SS-tank. Because it can be repaired fast at next to no cost.

>> No.12115753

>>12115752
My subs are all remodeled so while it's true that they cost next to nothing to repair, the time to wait can be pretty long.

>> No.12115758

>>12115753
Just do some min LSC and get a few Maruyus.

>> No.12115759

>>12115723
How much bauxite would that eat up per run?

>> No.12115761

>>12115759
10-15, I think.

>> No.12115765

>>12115700
Resource wise, 4xSS 1xCVL with all blue.
Time wise 3xCVL 1xBB 1xMaruyu because you can go on with orange/red fatigue with changing only BB on fresh on.

>> No.12115799

>You got Naka-chan.
Yeah!
>You got Naka-chan.
Yes!
>You got Naka-chan.
oh
>You got Naka-chan.
eh
>You got Naka-chan.
plz stop

endless naka-chan :(

>> No.12115802

>>12115799
welcome to Kancolle

>> No.12115804

>>12115799
I still remember when I wanted Naka to unlock my third fleet.
Now I hate the sight of her.

>> No.12115824

>>12115804
>>12115799
When you do enough LSC there will be something you hate more than Naka.
fucking RJ and Junyou.

>> No.12115827

>>12115799
Ahh "Naka-chan dayo". I quite like her intro. It's annoying when you're expecting something good to drop tho. The only ship I sunk, at 1-5 after leveling to 40 and discovering mid sortie the enemy boost.

>> No.12115829

>>12115824
You men kuso and her sister

>> No.12115832

>>12115829
You mean Kongou

>> No.12115833

>>12115829
Depend on which LSC you want to try that day.
For Taihou it's RJ and Junyou.
For Bismarck/Hotel it's Kuso sisters and Kongou sisters.

>> No.12115837

>>12115057
>>12114981
Line ahead, then Ring, then Line Abreast, the Line Ahead again for the boss. Works incredibly well for me, reached the boss with no problems 3 out of 4 times.

>> No.12115845

>>12115833
I've done over 60 Taiho LSC and I have yet to get a single RJ from it.

(Loads of Soryu and Hiyo-class though)

>> No.12115854

>>12115057
Wow, either you have terrible luck or you neglected to bring a support fleet.

I spared no expense with support fleets for 5-5. See those two destroyers there? They're usually dead before the shelling phase begins.

>> No.12115864

Hi guys.
kancolle is gooood game!
I like it!

well, i'll go to 2-4.
see ya.

P.S.: do you know where shimakaze is?
2-4 is everything naka-chan

>> No.12115874
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12115874

I think I need some sleep.

>> No.12115909

>>12115874
Replace it with error-chan

>> No.12115972

What was the so called miracle non lsc recipe for crane sisters?

>> No.12116012

>>12115972
330/430/530/430

>> No.12116038

>>12116012
Thanks.

>> No.12116043

>>12116012
That seems so cheap after all these months of LSC. Where has my perspective gone?

>> No.12116067

>>12114901
I went to bed right after posting, and before I got told to "git gud", so this is way late, but
>Yamato + 2/3BB
There's the problem, I don't want to run PvP with a fleet full of BBs, mine are already plenty leveled. Before recon update I would send out fleets of mostly CA/CAV (and Yamato when I was grinding her) and maybe some DD/CL depending on how tough the enemy fleet is, and win in night combat. Now a fleet of CA with opponent air superiority just gets hit to red by BB double attacks before I can even get to night combat. If the opponent has no carriers then I can get superiority just with CAV floatplanes and do fine but if they have carriers it's just awful.

If my goal was simply to win at PvP I could just send subs at BB/CV fleets but that's fucking pointless if I'm not getting xp on the ships that need it.

>> No.12116076

>>12116012
Well that was a fast and unproductive way to blow through 40K steel and a lot of the other resources, Should I just go to 5-2 for zuikaku?Never had luck getting her at 5-4.

>> No.12116099

>>12116076
>Should I just go to 5-2 for Zuikaku?
Yes, I got two those there last week.

>> No.12116336

So I finally gave 5-5 a try for the first time, anticipating rape by Re. Instead, two of my first three runs I make it past Re, only for compass to send me to the deadend. I miss Wake and Hime already.

Meanwhile on the PvP front, it's sure fun to get someone's 3-2 fleet filled with blue planes so your normal CAs get air supremacy just with their 1-star floatplanes. I haven't gotten anywhere near enough of those fleets lately.

>> No.12116352

>>12116336
>normal CAs get air supremacy just with their 1-star floatplanes.
Is this possible?

>> No.12116357

>>12116352
Yes.

>> No.12116359

>>12116357
How? I thought only Zuiun participated in aerial fight.

>> No.12116361

>>12116357
>>12116359
You even get air supremacy without any planes if the opponents fighter power is 0.

>> No.12116377

>>12116361
I once got air supremacy but didn't do any double attacks with 6 shelling attacks. Maybe I was really unlucky, but I don't know.

>> No.12116384

>>12116377
Getting AS isn't the only requirement to do double attacks.

>> No.12116391

>>12116384
2x46cm + Sanshiki + Yamato plane.

>> No.12116392

>>12116391
Oh, and 23gou instead of 46cm on Wagahai.

>> No.12116396

>>12116391
RNG as usual then.

>> No.12116489

>>12116377
That is very rare. I don't know how exactly it works, but I'm guessing that you need to shoot down all of their bombers/attackers to get the air supermacy without fighters.

>> No.12116685

Any has the miracle recipe for 46cms?
I remember someone saying a recipe for planes which was something like:

>fuel is always 20
>ammo is dictated by whether you want blue planes
>30 for non blue
>60 to include blue
>steel 10
>bauxite depends on type
>catch all 110
>eliminate saiun 100
>eliminate ryuusei kai / ryuusei 90 ( also needs 60 ammo )
>eliminate all but suisei 12A 40 but high penguin rate


Just wondering if there was something like that for guns

>> No.12116706

今週はメンテナンス実施の予定はありません。次回「艦これ」全サーバ群共通メンテナンス&アップデートは、来週【5/23(金)】に実施予定です。同メンテナンスに伴うアップデートでは、【新改装艦娘(※改装設計図不要)】及び【艦娘追加ボイス】などの実装を予定しています。

Another blueprint remodel.

>> No.12116717

>>12116706
Oh fuck. Time to clear 5-5, I guess.

>> No.12116722

>>12116706
Haguro?

>> No.12116731

>>12116706
It say no need for blueprint.

>> No.12116738

>>12116731
Shit, that's true. I'm tired and did just a quick google translation. I'm guessing Haruna kai ni then.

>> No.12116790

>>12116685
Talking about recipes, what do you go for when doing LSC? Do you go with the recipes with a lot of reports(more than 1000) even if they have a somewhat low success rate of whatever you're trying to get(like 10-15%).
Or do you try some of the recipes with few reports that have very good success rate(25-40%).
I'm trying to maybe go for Taihou, Bismarck or Yamato.

Chart
>>12113764
>>12113764

>> No.12116798

>>12116790
When looking at the chart you have to remember that people are more likely to report successful attempts than unsuccessful ones. 10% for 4/2/5/5.2 might be 5% in reality.

>> No.12116817

>>12116790
Put your trust on Iona.

>> No.12116827

>>12116798
Yes, that's why I'm taking with a grain of salt the 260 reports of 41% of getting Taihou with 3.5/.3.5/6/6/1 and the 115 of 35% getting Bismarck with 4/6/7/2/20.
Even the 114 reports of 6/5/7/2/20 for Yamato with almost 29%.
You just can't win can't you. Just praying for RNG-sama's grace.

>> No.12116851

>>12116706
Is it finally time for Haruna's to shine?

>> No.12116857

Should I remodel my Chikuma?
4medal left, and Tone is remodelled.

>> No.12116862

>>12116857
Until we get more Extra maps blueprint remodels will be uncommon, so go ahead.

>> No.12116866

>>12116862
ですよね~

>> No.12116876

>>12116851
Nah it's going to be yasen.
DMM wants to prolong the suffering of Haruna lovers.

>> No.12116907

>>12116706
Sendai at last.

>> No.12116940

How often do subs drop in 1-5?

>> No.12116981

>>12116706
If it's Haruna, then the timing is perfect and she'll be my birthday present.
Please, DMM, do it

>> No.12117005
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12117005

Akashit stronk.

>> No.12117007

>>12117005
Holy fuck.

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12117011

>>12116851
Soon, my brethren.

>> No.12117015

Hopefully, Konishi wouldn't screw up Haruna's new design and make her look decent.

>>12117005
So Akashi is secretly a BB?

>> No.12117026

Haruna can get all the Kai 2 she wants, she'll still be a slut.

>> No.12117051

>>12117026
People can call her a slut all they want, she'll still be daijoubu.

>> No.12117054
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12117054

Kikuzuki double-attacks Ri-chan for 2 + 2 damage
He-class attacks Shiranui for 1 damage
Kagerou double-attacks He-class for 2 + 1 damage
Shiranui double-attacks Ri-chan for 1 + 1 damage
Ni-class whiffs Kagerou

(Don't ask what I was doing.)

>> No.12117055

Can I get married again without using DMM points if the first ship I married sink?

>> No.12117057

>>12117055
Yes.

>> No.12117061

>>12117054
What are you doing with such a fleet.

>> No.12117083

>>12117061
I asked just one thing of you. One thing!

Basically what happened is that I use 5-2 non-boss route to grind experience (four nodes, high EXP), but 2 CV and 4 DD is an exceptionally awful composition to bring because it means you just get shit on by torpedoes at the end of day. If I had brought 2 CV 2 CA 2 DD or 1 CV 1 BB 4 DD I probably would have made it out okay.

>> No.12117168
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>> No.12117183

What is the effective way to reduce bauxite consumption while still using CVs? Put more fighters? Put better fighters? Put more AA guns?

>> No.12117190

>>12117183
Put more 46cms.

>> No.12117191

>>12117183
More + better fighters. but then they won't do much damage in the opening phase.

>> No.12117276

I know I read this in the wiki before but now I can't find it, but what affects the order the ships attack in? I think it was the order of the ships and range but I'm not sure.

Also what's the difference between view range and range?

>> No.12117278

>>12117276
Weapon range in the first round, ship order in the second round.

"View range" is a dumb and confusing name for what should be called LoS, ships have it instead of weapons.

>> No.12117327

>>12117278
View range isn't any dumber or more confusing than LoS

>> No.12117335

>>12117005
Wait, that's supposed to be good?

>> No.12117339

>>12117055
You sunk your shipfu? Scuttle yourself, you don't deserve to be called TTK

>> No.12117425

I-I just got banned...

All I did was use KCV with API, no scripts or cheats.

>> No.12117429

>>12117425
Halsey won't take the bait with that.

>> No.12117433

>>12117425
screenshot?

>> No.12117438

>>12117425
how do you tell when you're banned?

>> No.12117442

>>12117438
By having the fucking "This ID has been suspended" white-screen you idiot

>> No.12117443

>>12117425
Good job cheating scum.
Told to you stop F5ing during PVP.

>> No.12117446

>>12117442
How the heck would I know? I've never been banned before or have seen a ban notice.

>> No.12117447

>>12117425
Pics or Re

>> No.12117448

>>12117446
By not being new.

>> No.12117450
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>>12117429
>>12117433
>>12117438
>>12117442
>>12117443
>>12117447

KCV 2.60 beta on Win 8.1, logged in with API link. Japanese version from Github, no livestream.

No botting, no cheats, no refresh tricks, never connected on mobile.

See pic, Australian time.

>> No.12117452
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12117452

April ranking reward:
聯合艦隊基幹艦隊(1~3位)
●[新型水偵] 瑞雲12型(六三四空)
●[対潜艦攻] 天山(九三一空)
●[新型電探] 21号対空電探改
●[新型電探] 22号対水上電探改四
--------------------------------------------------------------
主力艦隊第一群(4~20位)
●[新型水偵] 瑞雲12型(六三四空)
●[対潜艦攻] 天山(九三一空)
●[新型電探] 22号対水上電探改四
--------------------------------------------------------------
主力艦隊第ニ群(21~100位)
●[対潜艦攻] 天山(九三一空)
●[新型水偵] 瑞雲12型
●[新型電探] 22号対水上電探改四
--------------------------------------------------------------
主力艦隊第三群(101~500位)
●[対潜艦攻] 九七式艦攻(九三一空)
●[新型電探] 22号対水上電探改四

>> No.12117454

>>12117450
were you using the cookie thing?

>> No.12117456

>>12117454
What cookie thing?

>> No.12117458

>>12117456
I think KCV edit your cookies to trick DMM's site. Not sure if it's enabled by default.

>> No.12117459

>>12117446
Could you be anymore new?

>> No.12117460

>>12117452
Please translate.Thats a lot of Kanji.

>> No.12117461

>>12117458
Oh that one. No, I just used my API without cookie or proxy.

>> No.12117463

>>12117450
>See pic, Australian time.
Your local authorities ban your account for treachery during last event.

>> No.12117464
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12117464

Is image loading on /jp/ shit slow for you guys as well?

>> No.12117468

>>12117461
Used public VPN to get new api?

>> No.12117469

>>12117464
No, it's just you.

>> No.12117470

>>12117452
>●[新型電探] 21号対空電探改
>●[新型電探] 22号対水上電探改四
Stats?

>> No.12117471

>>12117452
That's shit

>> No.12117473

>>12117463
Funny to say, I was the one that posted the joke about bombing Darwin-chan.

>>12117468
Haven't changed my API in a long time, but yeah I used public VPN after I got banned to check.

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>>12117460
>瑞雲12型
Zuiun Model 12
>瑞雲12型(六三四空)
Zuiun Model 12 (634 Air Group)
>天山(九三一空)
Tenzan (931 Air Group)
These are old reward, check the wiki.
>>12117470

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>>12117481

>> No.12117485

>>12117473
>Haven't changed my API in a long time
How long was that, you should at least refresh it every month.

>> No.12117487

Every time this ban topic comes up, I consider renewing my private vpn subscription. 10 bucks a month is not a high price for your daughter's safety.

>> No.12117489

>>12117448
>>12117459
Yes I started just before the april event

>> No.12117490

>>12117481
>>12117484
Why those fairies are very cute.

>> No.12117491

>>12113322
It makes me hard for a reason.

>> No.12117492

>>12117485
2 or 3 months? Is this a ban risk?

I'm going to try email DMM in 24 hours, if my account isn't unbanned by then.

>> No.12117494

>>12117492
I wish I could speak nip to email DMM.

>> No.12117495

>>12117450
Did you spend any money on the account? Did they ban you for using a foreign card or something?

>> No.12117496

>>12117492
Extra Operations reset every month, and you need a new API link to reset them.
If you haven't refresh your API link for a very long time, it may flag your ID as being suspicious.

>> No.12117497

>>12117494
I'll post up what I write if I end up doing it.

>>12117495
Nope.

>> No.12117498

>>12117495
Why would they ban paying customers?

>> No.12117500

>>12117485
My thoughts exactly. Because with an API link, you are basically entering the game once and never logged out.
Perhaps they saw this through either an automatic or manual check and saw that you're playing the game and yet never changed your login credentials, ever.

>> No.12117502

>>12117498
So they can get more money when they get back in the game.
Duh.

>> No.12117505

>>12117498
because nips are xenophobic, for all you know they could be starting a crackdown on banning all foreigners

>> No.12117506

>>12117484
>>12117481
Thanks, so better radars for DD?

>> No.12117507

>>12117500
Well, time to refresh my API link then.

>> No.12117508

>>12117505
>because nips are xenophobic
As someone who has been living there for over 5 years despite being a howaito piggu and almost 2m tall, I can tell you this is bullshit. At least it's not widespread.

>> No.12117511

>>12117505
Nips aren't really racist by Western standards (unless you're autistic and offended by everything) but anyway any company like foreign money way more than hat it might hate foreign people.

>> No.12117514

>>12117508
It's quite known however that nips like to deal with foreign problems by using the JPONRY excuse, they could care less if they had customers from overseas, heck their anime and gaming industry barely acknowledges their foreign customers and are even surprised when they find out foreigners buy their goods.

>> No.12117519

>>12117514
That's one thing, but actively going out of their way to ban paying costumers who did not do anything apart from being a foreigner is highly unlikely

>> No.12117523

>>12117519
Yes but the possibility still exists. It just takes one unhappy nip on a bad day who has the means to just arbitrarily end your fun and there will be no one else who would really bother to stick up for you.

>> No.12117533

>>12117506
DD can only use Type21. But they're certainly better than the common ones.

>> No.12117534

Speaking of radars, is there a point to using surface radars? I always find that an anti air radar instead of a surface radar would be better use of an equipment slot.

>> No.12117537

>>12117534
accuracy

>> No.12117543

I think I'm doing something wrong.
I use 30-35 bauxite when farming 3-2 when I should be using 10-20. Is it because I'm still using the 1 star blue planes and not the higher tier ones?

>> No.12117545

>>12117543
Use red planes. They are cheaper to make and requires less bauxite to repair.

Blue planes are the most expensive ones.

>> No.12117547

>>12117545
Do red planes attack before the shelling round?

>> No.12117551

Just checked that God-forbid forum, apparently there are some ban reports today. I guess they did sudden inspection today?

Also, is sanaechan safe?

>> No.12117557

>>12117551
What forum? That himeutashit?

>> No.12117558

>>12117557
Yes.

>> No.12117561

>>12117551
scripter here with logbook+KCV, not banned

>> No.12117563

>>12117561
API or cookie?

>> No.12117564

>>12117551
Playing fine so far. logbook + api

>> No.12117567

>>12117551
I just skimmed through it and the 2 main factors are, apparently
- KCT and live streaming data
- Refreshing in PVP (and maybe in sortie as well)

>> No.12117569

>>12117563
cookie

>> No.12117573

>>12117567
I hear it's a few days only and not permanent. Though I'm not sure.

>> No.12117583

>>12117534
32's on BB's

You don't want your BB's to miss

>> No.12117585

Oh boy, they are banning again.

>> No.12117586

Oh, I get it. The point of 5-5 isn't killing the boss. It's getting to the boss.
Too bad I can't even do that.

>> No.12117588

>>12117567
What the fuck is KCT?
Hacking tool?

>> No.12117594

>>12117585
Th-They won't ban people who spent money, right?

>> No.12117597

>>12117588
Kind of Kancolle viewer, brought to you by same guys who are involved in Commie translation.

>> No.12117600

>>12117594
Of course they would. People would go back in the game, spend more money to get to where they were in a shorter time than the banned account.

>> No.12117602

>>12117600
I guess I'll stop F5ing when someone gets red.

>> No.12117603

>>12117597
>trusting commie
My fucking sides. Good riddance, they deserved to be banned.

>> No.12117604

Fucking Commie and their followers, eat shit.

>> No.12117606

>>12117492
Have you used this KancolleTool?

>> No.12117612
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12117612

I went through that thread go get a sense of the situation, but holy shit. I feel like I lost half of my braincells because of posts like this gem. I can't even comprehend it.

>> No.12117621

Any nips on 2ch got banned?

>> No.12117623

>>12117621
KCB users.

>> No.12117625

>>12117621
http://blog.livedoor.jp/kancolle_bot/archives/1002933160.html

>> No.12117629

>>12117612
That post is not hard to comprehend though.

>> No.12117633

>>12117612
You think that's bad? Try this:
http://kancolle.himeuta.net/forums/showthread.php?203-Amatsukaze-s-artist-revealed-to-be-Fatalpulse-!

>> No.12117639

What's the cookie method?

>> No.12117642

>>12117639
The method that uses a cookie

>> No.12117643

>>12117639
this? http://pastebin.com/wF2V748S

>> No.12117644

>>12117639
It's when you shove a cookie up your ass.
When you set your browser locally or something so it tricks the servers that you're in a nip IP.

>> No.12117650

Posts in that forum suggest refreshing the api-links pretty often. I haven't done any researches about how the authentication, refreshing and reauthentication of such links work but don't you achieve the same "old" api-link status if you log in once in a legit way (from japan, through DMM) and just leave the window open?

>> No.12117655

>>12117650
>don't you achieve the same "old" api-link status if you log in once in a legit way (from japan, through DMM) and just leave the window open?
Yes. But would you really leave the game open for 2+ months?

>> No.12117656

>>12117650
During APIcalypse back on February, they added some timer that will invalidate your API link. I'm sure they made the code for that timer inactive when the APIcalypse ended, but don't know if they put it back active now.

>> No.12117660

This is awesome, those wikiatards are getting banned.

Based devs.

>> No.12117661

>>12117656
Most likely not as that just invalidated the authentication of api-links after a set time and refreshed the whole process. That's why it put such a strain on their servers that they had to go back on it.

>> No.12117662

>>12117660
Disgusting.

>> No.12117663

>>12117661
Was it something like 'Are you active? If yes, please continue you game, if no, sorry, your API is expired'?

>> No.12117666

>>12117650
API+Flash/KCV fine here.
I refreshed like 2weeks ago for the medal, didnt touch it since. Most probably got banned for using commie tool.
Based devs killing retards.

>> No.12117670

>>12117663
As far as I remember (again, I was too lazy to dig into it), after a set of time, the api-link expired but if you had a working connection to DMM (in Japan or via VPN) the link got reauthenticated. If no such connection was available, you got error-ko. I have no idea if the link itself was actually changed or not during this process.

>> No.12117674

>>12117670
The process is something like that, but I don't think the API link was changed. To get new API link, you have to reload the game page (or OSAPI page, I forgot), which was not the case.

>> No.12117676

What happens if you use the cookie method but use the API link at the same time?

>> No.12117677

>>12117663
More like they asked you to refresh every 30mins. That's mean new API every 30mins, API expires after 30mins, re-login every 30mins. And that put huge loads on their login server.

>> No.12117678

>>12117676
Then you're a retard and you should be banned

>> No.12117689

Even though I think we're pretty much safe, what would you guys do if you got banned? Start everything over? Leave Kancolle altogether?

>> No.12117690

More from the forum:
I suppose I'm post here of my findings. aaaaa so lazy.
Ok, so I've been scouring 3 forums for the past 2 hours or so: one from mainland China and two from Taiwan.

90% of the banned folks on the "China forum" admitted using scripts. The remaining 10% said he/she bought his account.
One forum in Taiwan had no such report. The other one only had one report, the author denies any usage of third-party software or scripts, but he/she did admit playing Kancolle on iPad.

>> No.12117691

>>12117689
I started two weeks ago so I would probably just find a new game. Probably get back to it in a month or so again if I get bored.

>> No.12117693

>>12117690
It's just DMM bringing down the hammer of justice. Nothing to worry about.

>> No.12117694

>>12117689
I am in too deep. More than half a year of effort down the drain.
Probably leave for good unless you can find me an account with every ships in game except for Tanikaze.

>> No.12117695

>>12117689
I'd leave. Got all the girls, no regrets.

>> No.12117696

>>12117689
Move on with my life, I don't think I want to try this RNG simulation, starting from scratch, again and again.

>> No.12117697

>>12117689
Stop being so defeatist. No one is getting banned here.

>> No.12117699

>>12117689
November ttk here. I don't know if I could start over again. Maybe not. I have put lots of time and effort into this game.

>> No.12117701

>>12117693
Fine it it's just scripters, account buyers and KCT users.

>> No.12117702

>>12117697
It's just a theoretical question because I'm interested. As for myself, I'm not sure, I have sink way too much time into the game to start over, but also too much to just leave.

>> No.12117703

>>12117689
Start over of course, I'd milk that beginner's luck or all it's worth.

>> No.12117704

How do they even know who bought/sold accounts? Using IP isn't a really good choice...

>> No.12117705

>>12117704
They spy on people with satellites.

>> No.12117706

Oh, so this direct loading feature in KCT does send requests to the server, to instantly refresh data that's usually refreshed when you visit the home port? I can see that being grounds for a delicious ban.

>> No.12117707
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Yes, yes...fear us
-DMM

>> No.12117708

So, are you playing right now or waiting to see what happens next?

>> No.12117711
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>>12117707
I fuckin love this

>> No.12117712

This is all Re's fault!

>> No.12117713

>>12117708
Playing like normal.

>> No.12117714

What's the point of banning scripters when playing the game as 'good' as possible is in no way different from scripting?

>> No.12117716

>>12117708
Playing like normal.
Trying to find a better way of farming 3-2.

>> No.12117718

>throw 1; < don't be evil' >{"http:\/\/203.104.209.7\/index.html?1400073665023":{"rc":200,"body":"<HTML>\r\n<BODY>\r\nKADOKAWA\r\n<\/BODY>\r\n<\/HTML>\r\n","headers":{"Server":"Apache","Connection":"close","Content-Type":"text\/html"}}

My fucking sides

>> No.12117720

>>12117714
Because it kills the whole point of expeditions and putting in effort by players?

If your definition of playing is just sorties while not having to give a shit about resources because you have a script that gets you everything you need, then you might as well just take down expeditions and give every player 50 resources and buckets every minute.

>> No.12117723

>>12117718
Being evil is a bannable offence

>> No.12117728

>>12117714
>limited slots of players can join
>new account got accepted
>instead of a person playing, a robot does it for him
>another person's account got rejected for a robot

also
>using a bot to refill resources
>not buying resources from the item shop

>> No.12117737

>>12117720
But I don't want to put in effort, I just want to click the girls, have them say fun lines and maybe sortie them once every while. But to I can't even get all the girls I like, everything is a massive pain in the fucking ass.

>>12117728
>another person's account got rejected for a robot
What? The entire point of scripting is not having to worry about annoying things like expeditions and grinding your brain out, but actually being able to play around with the girls. How am I a 'robot' for having fun?

>> No.12117740

>>12117720
What if you had to just assign a fleet to an expedition and it passively generates resources in a given unit of time depending on ship types and cost?

>> No.12117743

>being able to play around with the girls. How am I a 'robot' for having fun?
Is poking your secretary this fun?

>> No.12117747

>>12117743
Meant to quote >>12117737

>> No.12117749

>>12117737
>just want to click the girls, have them say fun lines and maybe sortie them once every while.
You can do exactly that.

>>12117737
>everything is a massive pain in the fucking ass.
Such is life, such is games. You're probably one of those people who use guides for a game you play because finding things out yourself is a pain.

>> No.12117756

>>12117743
You decide
http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev/kcplayer.php?c=116v4&fp=1

>> No.12117759

>>12117756
Of all the ships you could have chosen you had to choose one of the ones I hate the most.

>> No.12117760

>>12117759
Shit taste spotted.

>> No.12117763

>>12117749
>You can do exactly that.
Yeah, just like all the people that can poke Musashi after not having participated in the November event, or everyone having to do 60 or 70 LSC crafts to get Taihou or forcing your way into 3-4 again and again to get Hatsukaze. Same goes for the new girls, you have to work for all of them.

>> No.12117766

>>12117763
You are one self-entitled babby. How old are you?

Though I guess this IS /jp/.

>> No.12117770

>>12117766
>Though I guess this IS /jp/.
Anon please he obviously isn't from /jp/.

>> No.12117771

>>12117763
God forbid you have to put in some effort.

>> No.12117779

>>12117771
There is no point in putting in effort, so why not skip that and just go straight to the fun? Also, what's wrong with putting in effort into something to help you - like writing a script.
The same concept, putting effort into something to help you, is used in the game too - getting higher levels. Do you think getting higher levels is a bad thing? No, it's the entire point. It helps you get to what you want, faster and easier.
So it shouldn't matter if you do it one way or another, as long as you get to the goal, no?

>> No.12117783

So how many people got banned?

>> No.12117784

>>12117779
>There is no point in putting in effort, so why not skip that and just go straight to the fun?
I don't know about you, but I have much more fun when I earn something. Also, that's not how things work, unless you're being babied by others. You have to work for your shit, else sooner or later, you'll get your face slapped.

>> No.12117786

>>12117783
About 25% of english playerbase

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>>12117786
Here, you forgot your Wo sticker.

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>>12117779
>There is no point in putting in effort
The new generation is dead.

>> No.12117796

>>12117784
So basically, your point is that I'm wrong.
Thanks for making me realize I'm wasting my time.

>> No.12117805 [DELETED] 

>>12117796
No. My point is that your ways are not how things works in life. If you wish to go down that road, and script, so be it. But at least don't post shit like "why should I do something the way it should be done when it's tiring" in a way that paints people who play according to the rules as some sort of idiots. Also
>So it shouldn't matter if you do it one way or another, as long as you get to the goal, no?
I want a car. I should just steal yours because it gets me to the goal of owning a car. That would work, right?

>> No.12117808

>implying scripters are being banned
The people currently being banned are the one stupid enough to use a program made by the commie devs.

>> No.12117809

>>12117805
But anyway, let's not pull this thread in that direction.

>> No.12117812

>>12117808
KCV was made by commie?

>> No.12117817

>>12117812
Nope, it's something called Kancolle tool or what

>> No.12117818

>>12117812

Read the thread, he's talking about KCT.

>> No.12117827

>>12117817
>>12117818
Oh.
People were getting banned using KCV also so I just assumed he was talking about KCV, not KCT.

>> No.12117829

Didn't the devs state they didn't mind people using these programs?

>> No.12117832

>>12117827
>People were getting banned using KCV
I'm pretty sure that's not true. Just like logbook, KCV is not detectable. For people who get banned with KCV, something else must be in the background.

>> No.12117839

>>12117829
They said that it's technically against the rules but they don't care since they're focusing on people that actually cheat.

>> No.12117843

>>12117839
What constitutes cheating?

>> No.12117845

>>12117843
Probably breaking the rules

>> No.12117847

>>12117843
Scripting, macros, etc.

>> No.12117850

>>12117839
Banned here. Used KanColle Tool once during event. Used KanColle Viewer once too, but it was slower than browser so I stoped. Also I used logbook for the past few days.
Played from browser using the softEther VPN, refreshing few times per day, used nothing more.
If the ban is permanent I guess it was fun, played for about a month, got pretty good kanmusus, no regrets.

>> No.12117854

>>12117850
There are 2 red flags here. One being KCT, the other being constantly being connected to softether, which can flag you as a multi-account user if someone else is using the same connection.

>> No.12117858

Why the fuck do I keep missing with these fucking planes? They miss all the fucking time and it's fucking pissing me off.
Fuck.

>> No.12117859

>>12117854
What's an alternative to using softether?

>> No.12117860

>>12117859
Buying a VPN.

>> No.12117862

>>12117859
Learn to bake a cookie turbonoob.

>> No.12117869
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12117869

Here are the results from a few days before. Link was posted both on /jp/ and /a/

>> No.12117878

>>12117869
What's the difference between the cookie method and the API method?

>> No.12117880

>>12117878
One uses cookie, the other uses api

>> No.12117884

>>12117880
Oh, now I understand.

>> No.12117889

>>12117878
You can still update your api link over time using cookie method, I think.

>> No.12117892

>Pyaaaa! Sakawa ga number one?!
My fucking heart

>> No.12117895

>>12117892
Her idle line is also cute. And her hourlies. And her random pyas

>> No.12117897

>>12117895
I wish her sprite was as cute as her voice.

>> No.12117912

They could have avoided the banhammer by buying something from premium shop.

>> No.12117921

>>12117912
go for it if you think some bucks can save your ass

>> No.12118204
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12118204

RIP teitokus.

>> No.12118208
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>>12118204

>> No.12118224

>>12118208
Fuck.

>> No.12118227

So how do you fix the bug of some ships not showing up?

I get voice only for some ships while only a small amount of ships show up.

>> No.12118238

>>12118227
Wait till it loads.

>> No.12118239

>>12118227
It's not a bug, it's a feature.

>> No.12118241

>>12118227
Keep clearing your cache and refresh PvP battles.

>> No.12118242

>>12118238
The problem is that it doesnt load

>> No.12118246

>>12118227
Run through the gallery and let the cache load.

>> No.12118253

PVP sure is fun with enemy BBs and CAVs cutting in every attack.

>> No.12118258

>>12118242
I found that they only show up when you visit the page again after letting it load. If this doesn't happen to you, clear your cache.

>> No.12118265

>>12118258
This worked for me but its annoying to have to have to leave and enter again for it to load.

I hope they fix this bug soon, the old way of getting ships was better and shit actually loaded with the exception of some NODATA Oois here and there.

>> No.12118292

>>12118208
shit...when I gone, my shipdaughters will be lonely. Especially for my newly joined Bismarck.

>> No.12118298

I'm following that thread for shit and giggles. Why the fuck do some people roll 3-4 accounts?

>> No.12118301

>>12118208
>>12118208
Haha, this is amazing. And that's coming from a "sunk" TTK.

>>12118292
I was planing to go after Bismarck, I was saving for a long time. Not sure if it was best to get banned before I actually got a chance to get her.

>> No.12118304

>>12118298
I wanted to make some once to see how early in the game I'd get Yamato.

>> No.12118312

So do we have any casualties here that have not used this KCT crap or something else that got infected by commi aids, or anything ban-worthy?

>> No.12118328

>>12118312
Flash Projector + API fetched via cookie method (previously free VPN) - safe;
Never used scripts, bots, logbook, KCV or KCT.

Just don't be a retard and you're safe. Throwing some money on repair docks/ship slots/rings might help too.

>> No.12118331

>>12118328
I'm a bit unsure how to interpret that. You got banned with that configuration or you think that's safe?
Also, logbook and KCV should be safe. Many of the nips use them as well.

>> No.12118332

>>12118328
KCV is safe, KCT is not
Learn the difference, it could save your ships

>> No.12118336

>>12118328
KCV + cookie should be safe as well.
The only thing I'm worried about is that I also play from the office which connects to the internet through a US proxy, meanwhile from home, I'm in Europe.

>> No.12118337

>>12118331
I use this setup and I didn't get banned.
>>12118332
I'm well aware that KCV and logbook aren't prohibited.
>Never used scripts, bots, logbook, KCV or KCT.
and
>Just don't be a retard and you're safe
were unrelated.

>> No.12118339

Welp, cookie secret is out.

>> No.12118343

>>12118337
>I use this setup and I didn't get banned.
Just so you know, no one here really got banned, only casualties are some Chinese and Taiwanese scripters

>> No.12118344

Wait, I noticed something.
Using KCV with API, the critical warning coloring is removed as soon as I dock the red ship.
If I play with cookies, it's only removed after I visit the home port.

>> No.12118348

>>12118337
KCV is against the rules. As is any viewing programs.

>> No.12118349

If KCV was prohibited, im sure the author would just take it down and ask people to stop using it because thats what the staff people want.

Messaging the head guys of these tools sounds like a lot better idea than just banning everyone that uses it anyway.
Especially when the owner/founder/whatever guy that works on KCV is also japanese.

>> No.12118350

>>12118343
That's what I noticed too, but answered just for >>12118331

>> No.12118353

>>12118348
As is playing outside of dmm website and Japan, so?

>> No.12118354

>>12118328
I use your setup, but with Sanaechan as well.

I do use the KCT Viewer from time to time (just the viewer, not the additional tools). As far as I know, the KCT Viewer on its own doesn't do anything that warrants a ban, as it's more or less the same as just using the standalone Flash Player.

>> No.12118356

>>12118343
There's also the people using Kancolle Tool from that forum thing with the signatures bigger than the posts and the cancer emotes.

>> No.12118360

>>12118354
If it updates real-time then you can get banned.

>> No.12118361

>>12118354
>Using KCT ever
Why not just use superior KCV made by your japanese overlords?

>> No.12118365

>>12118360
So where is Zharay to clear this up and talk about KCV and this ban scare thing?

>> No.12118367

>>12118356
>that forum thing with the signatures bigger than the posts and the cancer emotes

Sounds like accurate description of most forums.

Anyway, these guys who got banned deserved it. They were either cheating or acting like complete idiots (or both). Nothing to be worried about, but Wo propaganda is working well.

>> No.12118370

>>12118361
I would, except my main computer runs OS X.

>> No.12118372

>>12118370
So does mine and I run KCV with parallels.

>> No.12118373

>>12118370
Use logbook/sanaechan then

>> No.12118379

>>12118360
From what I know, the KCT Viewer on its own doesn't do "real-time" updates or whatever.

The additional Tools program is what does the ban-able stuff, specifically the data-streaming that's been mentioned elsewhere.

>> No.12118381
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Reminder that any viewer program is against the rules and can get you banned.

>Q: Are add-ons that show expedition & docking times in another window conflicting with the rules?
>A: Strictly speaking, they do conflict with the rules, but what we at the Kancolle staff team see more as problems are not these other windows and self-made browsers, but "Macro operations" and "Cheat conducts". Currently we are working to confirm these (the latter, real problems), and as soon as we've confirmed them, we will cope with them relatively harsh.

>> No.12118388

>>12118381
Zharay and grabacr should just get in touch with Kancolle devs and settle the "Is KCV allowed?" thing so we dont have to discuss if its safe every time a ban scare happens.

>> No.12118389

>>12118381
Reminder that a great deal of nips also use these tools, so the staff would most likely provide a warning before a sweeping ban.

>> No.12118391

>>12118381
E>E translation:
>Technically viewers are against rules but we don't really give a fuck, bots are the real problem and you'll get rekt for using one.

>> No.12118392

been using kct and kcv with api only for months and i haven't been banned yet.

i was always under the impression they were more worried about scripters than people running third party shit.

>> No.12118394

Fuck, this shitty scare infested me a bit so I switched from API to cookie for the time being.

>> No.12118396

>>12118394
Same here
I needed to refresh my API anyway to do 1-5

>> No.12118399

>>12118373
I use Sanaechan, but in terms of browsers (the thing I actually play KanColle in), I can't seem to get the stand alone Flash Player to run smoothly, hence why I use KCT Viewer (again, just the viewer).

KCT Viewer seems to be nothing more than a renamed Flash Player, but it doesn't have the same sluggishness for some reason.

>> No.12118402

>>12118394
Same.

>> No.12118407

>>12118372
>KCV with parallels
I'll do this for longer play sessions, but for more casual play, I like not having to run parallels just to play a simple browser game.

>> No.12118408

Kancolle vita when?
I would definitely play this a lot more often if I could have it on my vita running all the time while I do other shit on my toaster.

>> No.12118413

>>12118408
Play it on your browser.

>> No.12118414

>>12118391
So they can detect bots. That makes sense since it's data and shit.
Can they detect scripts? That's more like behavioral analytics and shit.

>> No.12118415

>>12118413
Meant phone*

>> No.12118417

>>12118413
Having a game up like a MMO + Kancolle up is awful on a old toaster and you have to keep alt tabbing all the time, its too much effort.

Vita kancolle would be portable, would look amazing on the OLED screen and you could do whatever and still have kancolle up on your vita.
Even go play console games or go outside and still be able to play it.

>> No.12118418

>>12118414
Where is the difference between bot and script?

>> No.12118425

>>12118417
>go outside and still be able to play it
I think you're under a grave misunderstanding regarding the core KanColle demographic.

>> No.12118431

>>12118425
You still have to go outside your room sometimes.

Like the bathroom, the store to pick up food, family meetings or a fast food place if you want to have something different.

>> No.12118439

>>12118418
I think bots make api calls to do game actions. Stuff like resupplying your ships, sending them out, etc. In other words, they don't interact with the regular interface of the game, the one you see when you play, and instead just send data back and forth to control the game.

On the other hand, scripts use some sort of simulated mouse clicks to control the game interface. To DMM's servers, it shouldn't appear any different than a human being just clicking on stuff, unless that clicking behavior is particularly suspicious.

>> No.12118453

>>12118439
You can make a bot that simulates mouse clicks if you want.

>> No.12118464

>>12118418

Bots alter in-game data while scripts perform certain tasks in an automated way, I think. The difference is probably blurry as fuck, like between programs and scripts in general. Maybe someone competent could answer your question.

>> No.12118473
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Looks like I wasted the whole day learning flash, how it interacts with browser cache and other retarded shit.
Sorry, RJ, I'm not going to continue with this. I don't want to kill myself over fucking flash browser game.

>> No.12118474

All this talk of bans.
I'm scared. Don't want to lose my cute little ships.

>> No.12118476

>>12118474
Dont use KCT then

>> No.12118477

>>12118473
Fucking with the game just to get your RJ waifu to stop being ugly is probably the worst possible idea right now for multiple reasons.

>> No.12118479

>>12118464
Defining for a bot is that it automates a task, using scripts is just a possible way to do it.

Scripts would be the easiest way to make a Kancolle-bot I assume.

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>>12118473
Tits on RJ?
Why do you even RJ?

>> No.12118486

>>12118477
I should've read the thread sooner instead of diving head-on in the flash documentation shithole. Wasting good 13 hours on something I'll never use again feels so fucking retarded.

>> No.12118492

>>12118485
Because cute is justice.

>> No.12118516

Remember when people were laughing after the devs announced in twitter that they have improved their security method and would punish people who continue to script/hack/bot afterward?
Look like those weren't empty threats after all.

>> No.12118518

>>12118485
It kind of bothers me. RJ doesn't have a complex about being flat, nor does she particularly desire big tits.

Can't she be a well-adjusted woman who just happens to be flat? Does it all have to be about the size of her rack? I like her hairstyle and her accent more than her tits, or the lack thereof.

>> No.12118522

>>12118516
None of the scriptfags got banned anyway, right?

>> No.12118533

>>12118522
I think a bunch of Chinese and Taiwanese cheaters got banned.

But that's not really all that unexpected, is it?

>> No.12118536

>have to wait 9+ hours to repair ships now
So what do you guys do in the meantime? Browser 4chan? Read a book? Go outside?

>> No.12118537

>>12118536
Bucket them

>> No.12118540

>>12117850
You can email them and say you were playing over a VPN, which technically isn't against any rules that anybody wrote.

>> No.12118541

>>12118536
If you don't have more than a thousand buckets then you shouldn't be posting here. Try the forums.

>> No.12118542
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12118542

Way too early to judge, but I don't think 1.3*(min amount of drums) is right in nip recipe for 100% great success. Looks like drums give a flat % for great success.

>> No.12118543

>>12118536
Don't be a miser with your buckets. It only takes 30 minutes to run exp 2 vs 9+ hours.

But as for multi-tasking while playing KanColle, I read VNs.

>> No.12118545

>>12118541
if you're an elitist retard you... well, you fit perfectly into /jp/, so never mind

>>12118543
i only play twice a day anymore

>> No.12118547

>>12118543
Saving them up for the next event that comes up.

>> No.12118550
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12118550

I'm scared. Not getting the banned message but error musu after clicking game start. Tried VPN, API, cookie. What does this mean?

>> No.12118551

>>12118545
>Told to use buckets
>Reply with elitist retard shit

No anon, you are the retard
Allow me to remind you that you need to be over 18 years of age to post in 4chan

>> No.12118556

>>12118550
You're banned. Get a new API.

>> No.12118558

>>12118551
Not him but you said:
>you shouldn't be posting here. Try the forums.
Which indeed makes you an elitist.

>> No.12118560

>>12118542
The nip thing say 4 sparkles ships.

>> No.12118561

>>12118551
sorry but your fabricated quotes aren't impressing anyone; what you actually said was:

>If you don't have more than a thousand buckets then you shouldn't be posting here. Try the forums.
please do not rewrite history to make yourself look better

>> No.12118563

>>12118558
>you said
But that was a different poster
I agree though, he might fit better in the forums if he's a retard that forgot buckets exist.

>> No.12118566

>>12118560
I know. Sparkling 4 ships is way too bothersome, I can barely stomach sparkling 2. ~85% for great success is good enough for me.

>> No.12118568

I wonder what suddenly changed to make all these bans happen? Did DMM just get serious overnight or something? Is it just a weird coincidence that it's all happening now?

>> No.12118571

>>12118568
They said they improved their security and would punish rulebreakers.
They're doing what they promised

>> No.12118572

>>12118568
They wanted to stop me from fixing RJ, those bastards.

>> No.12118573
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>>12118556
I tried that a few times already. Keep getting the connection error musu. Oh well. If I'm not banned this will resolve itself eventually. I hope.

>> No.12118576
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>>12118572
She's here to stay.

>> No.12118580

>>12118568
Is this the first time you play an MMO or something online?

Remember how they said they forgive everyone who's done bad up till now during the Event update (where they changed revamp the UIs). I'm sure that's when they implemented something new. The collected data on the cheaters from that time. Probably they minutely changed how some packets are with some junk that won't break anything but they can detect if something's wrong. They just waited till this update to enforce the bans

>> No.12118582

>>12118573
Clear cache? Get a new VPN?

>> No.12118588

Got error then I cleared cache and changed API and stuck on floating ship for ages. What to do? Work with VPN just fine.

>> No.12118592

>>12118588
Wait for it to load.

>> No.12118598

>>12118588
banned

>> No.12118601

>>12118588
Clear cache

>> No.12118605

By the way, any and all further technical support questions about KanColle can be answered right now: You're banned.

>> No.12118609

>>12118605
Am I baned?

>> No.12118614
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12118614

>>12118609
No, this is Bane. But if you had to ask, you're banned.

>> No.12118616

According to one guy on the forums, there's some sort of "checking ping" every 10 minutes with an unknown purpose. It works If you play the game from browser and doesn't with projector. What's the deal with KCV? Does anyone know? I would assume it should work since KCV basically loads the page then just redirects the traffic with through the fiddler, but maybe someone knows better.

>> No.12118621

How do you say in japanese "please don't ban me japanese masters, I will pay you lots of money"?

>> No.12118622

>>12118592
>>12118598
>>12118601
Already cleaned and loading ended with connection error picture.
>>12118605
Seems so. Looks like I picked the wrong time to ask.

>> No.12118623

>>12118616
You're banned.

>> No.12118627

>>12118622
I switched from API to cookie earlier.
Was stuck at the black floating ship screen but I clicked clear cache and set the cookie again and that did the trick.

>> No.12118629

>>12118623
epic maymay m8

>> No.12118630

>>12118621
"私はスーパーホモチーター、私をばんにしてください"

>> No.12118633

>>12118630
I chuckled.

>> No.12118635
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>>12118630
Sounds good.

>> No.12118637

>>12118630
Perfect, I'll make sure to set this as my message

>> No.12118638

>>12118621
広島が足りないですね

>> No.12118644
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>>12118630
I wish however writes this the best of luck.

>> No.12118648

>>12118630
>スーパーホモ
Accurate.

>> No.12118650

>>12118630
Ehehehe.

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