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The hunt continues. Less shitposting edition.

FAQ: http://www.tcgapp.com/viewtopic.php?f=206&t=3169

/jp/ comrades/alliance/AW killer/sender
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvW2LsNqEuR8dEFpVGRGVm1CWE5JUE1KNmcwX3dNekE&usp=sharing#gid=0

Previous thread: >>12084110

>> No.12092402
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12092402

Archwitch: Destroyer
http://valkyriecrusade.wikia.com/wiki/Destroyer

Fantasy Archwitch: Matrix, Ragnarok
http://valkyriecrusade.wikia.com/wiki/Matrix
http://valkyriecrusade.wikia.com/wiki/Ragnarok

Progress point reward: Vending Machine
http://valkyriecrusade.wikia.com/wiki/Vending_Machine

Sacred Treasuer: Rocket Punch
http://valkyriecrusade.wikia.com/wiki/Rocket_Punch

Ranking reward: Last Army
http://valkyriecrusade.wikia.com/wiki/Last_Army

>> No.12092409

Should I even bother ranking for the UR this event or not? I feel like Last Army is really underwhelming.

>> No.12092436

>>12092409
Next event is going to be a UR Light crit all FAW, just you watch

>> No.12092458

>>12092436
Feel doubtful about that!

>> No.12092506

>>12092436
Nope.

Next event will have a box summon where the UR is a Light critter.

>> No.12092512

>>12092436
More like next one will be Passion or Cool UR 250% Buff.

>> No.12092569

>>12092512
Fenrir's already in the box summon, so I'd rule out a cool-type buffer.

>> No.12092586

Is spending 2000 jewels for a castle lv.10 really worth it for someone who can kill FAW regularly?

>> No.12092588

>>12092569
That's box summon, not UR ranking reward. The last one was dark type UR, this is light type so next should be passion or light. Just seem logical.

>> No.12092604

>>12092586
I'd personally just go for lvl 9 magic school, but that's just me. I find more value out of that.

>> No.12092606

>>12092604
Does this raise FAW encounters as well?

>> No.12092611

>>12092606
no

>> No.12092616

>>12092586
I'd do it for the extra elemental shrines. Being more consistent is always good.

>>12092606
http://valkyriecrusade.wikia.com/wiki/Buildings#Magic_School

>> No.12092626

>>12092616
Yes, and that entry has been the same since before FAWs were introduced. Thanks for the answer.

>> No.12092649

So guys here's the question:
I just got my second Ragnarok from a FAW drop.
I got my first one from an perfect Amalgamation.

Should I fuse them or just wait to make a new Ragnarok with perfect amalgamation?

>> No.12092653

>>12092649
You should wait, the event isn't even halfway over yet so you'll most likely get enough to make a perfect amalgamation.

>> No.12092673

>>12092649
I'd wait and likely medal off that extra dropped Rag.

>> No.12092741

I had at least 15 level 27 Slimes at the beginning of this event, and now I'm down to nothing amalgamating/evolving an HSR Ragnarok.

>> No.12092743

>>12092741
Be happy - 15 more free inventory slots.

>> No.12092764

The faq says i should fuse an enchanter and mechanic to get an android. How do i get them?

>> No.12092770

>>12092764
they're N cards so they can come easily enough from regular summons, you can also get Mechanics just about everywhere in the current event map. If you get to area 4 or so in the regular campaign map then I believe you will start seeing enchanters drop there.

Android is basically kind of a newbie's first R card, you can screw up levelling or evolving it all you want and not be boned because unlike other rare and higher cards, is is very easy to get more of them.

>> No.12092778

>>12092770

I got a snow witch as my first summon, and she only has 2000 or so troops left. I also got another snow witch from clearing some stage. Should I combine them to get an evolved witch?

>> No.12092783

>>12092778
I wouldn't recommend it as evolving requires both cards to be at max level and an arcana succession to be added in to maximize the stat gains, more importantly, it resets troop count to 100. Early on that can be a pretty big deal. On top of that the Snow Mage requires multiple evolutions to get to her full potential, some cards (like Android) only have one, so you don't need like 5 or 6 copies to produce a maxed out card/

>> No.12092785

>>12092778
If you are low on resources, don't. She will be reduced to 100 soldiers.

>> No.12092786

>>12092778
Evolving usually isn't worth it at the beginner's stage. Especially not if you don't have the resources to buy new troops (the evolved form starts at 100 units) and the cards to level her up again (the evolved form starts at level 1 again)

Oh, and Android's best use is for sacrificing her in Goddess Worship when you are in an alliance. The "beginner card" stuff is anciently outdated, because you can get much better R cards from regular summon now, or even SR cards.

>> No.12092791

>>12092786

What cards should I make then? I just started less than an hr ago.

>> No.12092792

>>12092786
Beginners get a whole bunch of R cards now. Starter, Angel, Assistant (code), 2xAW damage is barely 100 progress points.

>> No.12092797

>>12092791
1. Build up all resource buildings you can (farms, ether furnances, iron works)
2. Build up all storehouses you can.
3. Level up your castle as much as you can.
4. Repeat 1-2 for each castle level up.

In the first 24 hours, you have infinite vitality. In that time, I think it is a good idea to get as far in the campaign as possible (the place called "Chronicle").

After that, add as many people from the list as you can. Then do the event map, encounter witches, send them to your friends. That will give you all the R cards you need.

>> No.12092802

>>12092797

Is there a reason why I should add people to my friend's list? I found an arch witch thing. Can I invite someone to help kill it?

>> No.12092805

>>12092791
Yeah, if you started an hour ago you probably will get swamped with quests that can be completed left and right, giving you enough rewards to build up your castle and resource buildingss really fast. Heck, you'll probably get a few free premium summon tickets that you might as well use to summon some extra firepower for your team. Focus on completing all the quests you can, and try to upgrade your castle and resource buildings as much as possible. In the meantime you can use the infinite vitality to try to make it as far into the campaign as possible.

>> No.12092807

>>12092797

I have two snow witches. Should I give them both troops and do the campaine?

>> No.12092810

>>12092807
Stick to your starting R with soldiers and add some others with 1-100 soldiers to act as meatshields, you don't really need much more.

>> No.12092813

>>12092807
Nah, just truck on ahead with an unevovled Snow Mage until you get to the point where you hit a wall and run straight out of soldiers. Since Evolving resets soldier count to 100 you might as well get as much use out of those soldiers as you can.

Also keep in mind that "Upgrade" is not the same as "Evolution". Upgrade raises the level of a card by sacrificing cards (you should probably go into settings and disable the use of R or higher cards for Upgrading). Evolution combined two copies of the same card to make a stronger version.

>> No.12092823

>>12092802
1. Having comrades allows you to get more friendship points by a) greeting them each day and b) going to their kingdom and boosting their resource buildings. This way, you can easily get a number of friendship points for regular summon each day.
2. All good cards in this game come from arch witches. When you encounter one and get defeated by it, you can request reinforcements from your alliance/your comrades. They can kill the witch for you, and you get cards from it. That is why it is of utmost importance to have as many comrades as possible - one of them will always be online, and if you're lucky, dispatch your AW quickly - less wait for you.

>> No.12092827

>>12092823

I found a witch. Want to kill it for me? It's a destroyer with 3300 troops i think.

>> No.12092830

>>12092827
If you want you can go ahead and add me. Bring up the menu, click the arrow on the right and hit Comrades, then hit the Add tab and put '4osca' where it says to enter ID.

Afterwards you'll have to fight the Archwitch, if you fail to beat her you can hit the Reinforcements button to call up to five comrades you help you out.

>> No.12092832

>>12092827
Check the spreadsheet in the OP.
Look for some AW Killers, and add their ID.

That would be faster than asking if someone wants to kill her for you.

>> No.12092833

>>12092827
Low lvl AW are easy and you should be able to kill them even with weak starting team.

Remember that while FAW (stronger boss) requires no battle points to spend for the first try, AW do, so people might not want to kill them unless they have spare points.

>> No.12092834

>>12092832
>>12092827
And don't forget to add your own name/id to the list - personally I don't accept requests of persons that aren't in the list to avoid accidentally adding some undesirables.

>> No.12092838

>>12092833

Can I kill it? My snow witch has at most 3k atk/def/troops and the description of the destroyer has 6k atk/def and 3k troops.

>> No.12092840

>>12092838
You have to attack the AW first before sending request to comrades anyway.

>> No.12092842

>>12092838
Well, the neat thing about Archwitches and Fantasy Archwitches is that you do not lose any troops at all during their fights. You probably have a decent shot of taking her out, though as you encounter more of them they get stronger, so eventually you'll need to call others for help often, until you get a really strong team together.

>> No.12092844

>>12092842

Oh, i did manage to kill it. It attacked my fodder and ignored me.

>> No.12092848

>>12092844
Congrats. I sent over an Archwitch, despite the high level you should easily be able to kill it in one hit. Assisting works mostly much the same way as fighting your own AWs.

>> No.12092849

If you're new, the FAQ in the OP is a good place to start reading.

>> No.12092867

Have been playing for around two weeks. Should I medal the high vampires I got from regular summons?

>> No.12092872

>>12092848

Cool, thanks. I got like 5-10 levels from killing it.

>> No.12092874

>>12092867
If you don't have anything good as your main unit, it can be a pretty strong unit in itself, but it requires a lot to build around it.

>> No.12092878

So, I'm planning on spending some money on this depending on what responses I get. I want to do box summons, but what are the chances of getting something actually usable? I did one with free jewels and got an R card (much like most of my non-free summons). I'd really love to get Fenrir, but I feel like that's just... not within my reaches. So if I were to spend like $20, would I likely get something usable/decent?

>> No.12092879

>>12092878

$300.

>> No.12092883

>>12092879
Yes, I understand that's the number to get it for sure, but I'm not going to spend that much money.

>> No.12092886

>>12092878
>So if I were to spend like $20, would I likely get something usable/decent?
This is a game for gamblers. There's no way to tell beforehand. You could get all your UR/SR summons up front, you could get nothing but Ns. If you want guaranteed, or even high probability, chances at a target summon, be prepared to spend a lot of money. If it doesn't play out that way, great.

>> No.12092895

>>12092878
I'd say it depends on how well Fenrir will fit into your team and how much you are willing to spend.

>> No.12092897

>>12092895
I don't know how much I'm willing to spend, but I might just give it a random try.. just because something good might happen, right? But if I fail I'll probably just stay away from spending any more money on the game.

>> No.12092904

>>12092823
>2. Most good cards in this game come from arch witches, aside from a few exclusive cards that can only be obtained with jewels. It's possible to defeat AW and FAW without spending a dime though, so don't worry.
ftfy

>>12092883
Drop rate is around 1% for URs. Even if the box only has 10 cards left, it appears that that odds stay the same until the box is completly empty given how many players have to clean out the box to get her.

You'd probably be better off in investing in ygg trees and a magic school, something that has a guaranteed return.

>> No.12092907

>>12092897
Be cautious about spending money on the game. There are things with a more permanent impact on your gameplay that you can purchase than summons.

>> No.12092911

>>12092904
>You'd probably be better off in investing in ygg trees and a magic school, something that has a guaranteed return.
I already have 3 trees and a level 3 magic school right now from free jewels alone. That's why I'm not feeling too stingy about spending a LITTLE bit of money.
>>12092907
What do you suggest? This game IS pure RNG after all.

>> No.12092913

>>12092911
A 3rd workshop and a magic school level 6.

>> No.12092914

>>12092911
Maybe try step up summon till it gets too expensive.

>> No.12092915

>>12092913
I honestly don't see the need for the 3rd workshop anytime soon at all, and I'll probably level my magic school soon enough. But I won't have enough BP to get 1 more out of a sword lite until it hits level 7 most likely.
>>12092914
Is this a better chance than box summon?

>> No.12092917

>>12092915
A 3rd workshop basically increases your build speed by 50%, which will help you level up a lot faster, which will help you reach level 100 sooner so that you can have 18 bp sooner. All for only 500 jewels.

>>12092915
Step up summon has a 100% chance of an SR on the last step, while box summons has a 100% chance at a UR after you draw the final card. Which one is better comes down to if you are willing to spend $300 if you have bad luck or not.

>> No.12092918

>>12092915
Increasing chance for SR, lower jewel per card and a bunch of bonuses (maiden tickets/swords/boots/upgrade potion/premium ticket).

>> No.12092922

>>12092917
I'm already really close to level 100, so I feel that I'm better off not getting the workshop. But like I said, would you guys think it'd be a bad idea to just give a random try at a few box summons? At this rate I probably won't even spend money on the game, seems like too much of a hassle.

>> No.12092926

>>12092922
I would pass, it's the same money sink as regular premium summon, really. The only difference is that limited UR, they can go fuck themselves with guaranted 99th summon drop.

>> No.12092927

>>12092926
Yeah, you're right. Knowing my luck, I probably wouldn't get anything good until the very end. Well, I guess I'll continue being a free player.

>> No.12092929

>>12092922
There's no good way to answer this, the value of a dollar is going to vary from person to person depending upon their individual circumstances, disposable income, and personality.

Me? I hate the idea of spending money with a high chance of getting nothing, and that's what summons are, and you'll see rage threads of people complaining about not getting anything after spending a decent amount of money all the time. While I do believe in supporting the deveolpers of games I like (such as VC), I prefer to actually get something for my money, so I bought jewels for a magic school and workshops and have zero regrets. If I had spent that money on summons, there's a fairly high chance I would have gotten nothing for it and been pissed off.

>> No.12092930

>>12092929
Your logic is sound. I agree with it.

>> No.12093170

The PvP in this game is horrendous. I played a few PvP matches to complete the treasures but I'm not even sure I'm playing against the player themselves.

>> No.12093179

>>12093170
Go on "Edit Unit" and then on Defense Unit.
That's what you're playing against, it's not controlled by the player.

>> No.12093180

>>12093170
You aren't, it's just defense team on autopilot. Just get 5xR cards with the highest chance of proccing AoE and hunt 5 soldiers teams. It's the same chance of winning but at least you don't lose soldiers and maybe you have to spend 1 minute more refreshing the list of teams.
And considering you don't really lose anything when someone attacks you and you lose, I wonder if I should medal my defense team and just place Golden Girls/Slimes there.

>> No.12093247

>>12093179
>>12093180
That's even worse. Why don't they implement a PvP system anyway?

>> No.12093266

>>12093247
Because whoever goes first wins. It would be silly.

>> No.12093272

>>12093180
I always have a slime in my defense unit except on the first few days of an event when I haven't collected all artefacts yet. It's really annoying when some dumbass steals the artefact that you just collected three seconds ago.

In fact, experience shows that simply having an unit count of 40k+ will stop mostly every player from ever attacking you. They don't even have to be good cards.

>> No.12093310

I'm having problems increasing my friendship level with Miss Lunar New Year. I put her in my favorite, took her out for exploring and AW hunt and everything but the friendship level always stay at 1. Any ideas why?

>> No.12093327

>>12093310
She hates you. What's the problem?

>> No.12093335

>>12093327
Why would she hate me?

>> No.12093338

>>12093335
How would I know? Did you not feed her? Forgot to take her out once or twice a day? Maybe her room isn't to her liking?

>> No.12093340

>>12092911
>What do you suggest? This game IS pure RNG after all.
I didn't mean about the game, I meant about yourself. I got comfortable with the buy jewels button. Then, I started playing drunk. I remember at least 3 occasions where I was shitfaced and bought jewels until Google told me no. Sober since February, as a result.

>> No.12093343

>>12093340
>where I was shitfaced and bought jewels until Google told me no
Wow...

>> No.12093344

>>12093340

So how much did you spend during that drunk period?

>> No.12093365

>>12093344
I went through my Google Wallet history and tallied everything up. All things considered, just shy of $1000. I can kill FAWs at least!

>> No.12093376

>>12093365
>$1000
I don't think I have spent that much total on the software in my life.

>> No.12093392

>>12093272
What I like to do is to heavily trap whichever artifact that people is stealing.

>> No.12093406

>>12093272
I admire you. Personally, I would kill myself if my Loss/Win ratio was bad.

>> No.12093522

>>12093406
PvP in this game is so irrelevant I sometimes forget it even exists. Just win 4 duels every 2 weeks to get Metal Slime and that's all. I don't even try getting 2nd R.

>> No.12093571

What's the average for points daily in 450-500 range right now?

>> No.12093574

>>12093571
2.3 mio.

>> No.12093575

>>12093522
yeah, and most players don't even have fort built until they are done building almost everything else.

>> No.12093581

>>12093574
Good, I feel a bit safer with my 2.5+ then.

>> No.12093594

>>12093575
I built and upgraded it hoping it would open up other quests.

It didn't, biggest waste of time and resources.

>> No.12093599

>>12093594
At least it doesn't have 10 upgrades.

>> No.12093620

>>12093581
It'll get a bit crazier near the end of the event, especially if you're borderline. I've thought about going top 300 and I don't know if I can keep it up.
Last event 300 was around 53mil, and I expect this event to be higher since less people are distracted by Sabbath and Ragnarok gives a lot more points.

>> No.12093632

>>12093620
This event will probably be lower because much less people care about Last Army than Therapy.

Rank 100 only has 20.5mil so far.

>> No.12093638

>>12093620
On the other hand the UR isn't all that good so maybe some people will take a breather and stock some swords and boots instead.

>> No.12093672

>>12093632
>>12093638
Well I'm hoping that's the case, but 300 is still at ~3.4m daily.
And in the last event, doing 4m+ daily got me near top 100. Right now 100 daily is close to 5.4m.

>> No.12093683

Do the buildings in the amusement area do anything?

>> No.12093685

>>12093672
Maybe it will calm down after everyone get their perfect Ragnaroks and shit.

>> No.12093714

>>12093683
http://valkyriecrusade.wikia.com/wiki/Amusement_Park_Coin_Exchange

>> No.12093834

been playing for 4 days now and the highest cards I managed to get are a cyborg and a dragon princess. both seem like terrible cards but dp is at least easy to evolve
when will at least relatively good cards start to appear ? If the bridge is too far away should I work on improving my shitty SRs ? Frankly this standstill is boring my fast

>> No.12093839

>>12093834
You don't get good cards from regular summoning. Go hunt witches. Send them to your comrades. Wait for drops. Repeat ad nauseum.

>> No.12093855

>>12093834
You don't get good cards in 4 days. Many people spend months grinding for a viable team, much less an ideal team.

>> No.12093859

>>12093839
well my "comrades" in alliance are killing every single witch I send them. they are appearing around lvl70 now and I'm still getting nothing

>> No.12093863

>>12093859
Welcome to VC. We can talk again 1000 witches later, or in a few months time. You may had one or good card drop by then. Or maybe not, who knows?

>> No.12093867

>>12093859
Good luck getting anything even at 200lv. With ~100 AWs today I had 2 drops. Matrix was more generous.

>> No.12093874

>>12093863
allright I guess this is not my cup of tea then
I'll slow down my play and check it daily maybe
thanks for swift answers

>> No.12093910

It's really depressing when you want to re-send FAWs, but they don't spawn even after you use a sword. Sorry.

>> No.12093953

So, who else does not have a Fenrir yet? It seems everyone has one nowadays.

>> No.12093965

>>12093953
Don't need Fenrir, 2xHUR Juliet is enough 350% cool buff.

>> No.12093969

>>12093965
She's cuter too.

>> No.12093978

Anyone know what 300 is on after the update?

Daily and total if possible please!

>> No.12093992

Anyone know how many points rank 300 has?

>> No.12093999

Good lord, Matrix is the biggest AoE spammer I've seen so far.

>> No.12094032

F/AW's buff dispel is way too annoying.

>> No.12094087

>>12093999
I'm getting destroyed by its high proc rate. I had to waste 3 BP on the same Matrix because its AoE proc'd first-turn, 3 times in a fucking row.

>> No.12094102

>>12093978
Anyone?

>>12093999
>>12094087
Glad to know it isn't only me experiencing this. Over the past 2 days I've been aoe'd more often than I have throughout all the other events put together. And half the aoe have been on turns 1-3.

>> No.12094103

>>12093999
Nubee has to keep steadily ratcheting up the need for URs.

>> No.12094128

Still need an alliance when room becomes available. I am patient.

5b00r

My problem is I have 40 invites and I think none of them are /jp/

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>>12093978
>>12094102
Closest I can see.

>> No.12094212

>>12094186
Thanks, I'll assume 300 is ~16m right now.
Anyone who did this last event know if this is better/worse/same?

>> No.12094233

>>12094212
In terms of effort, it's about the same, though it's also a bit easier to gain points thanks to Ragnarok.

And if anyone's curious, rank 150 is currently 21.3 million points while rank 175 is 19.7 million points.

>> No.12094297

>>12093978
>>12093992
If you bothered to simply scroll up... The same question gets asked every thread and the answers always nearly identical.

>> No.12094508

Has anyone else played around with Therapy teams? Right now I'm running 2x UR Therapy, 2x HSR Lilim, 1x HSR Yuki Onna, and it absolutely wrecks Ragnarok. 2x250% with decently leveled dark shrines puts Yuki Onna's unlimited 30% proc at 999999 damage. It would probably be better to replace one of the Lilims with Elisabeth or Snow White, but I haven't gotten around to cleaning my presents yet.

>> No.12094514

>>12094508

Get out of here Rikka.

>> No.12094524

What is the best stage of Cybercity for grinding progress points?

>> No.12094533

>>12094524
Seriously, I'd like a definite answer too. One event I hear 5-2 is best, another suddenly it's all about 5-4, next event it's 5-2 again.

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12094537

Holy crap... I just realized having two Fenrir buffs stack multiplicatively. (All allies' cool element ATK 350% up / 20% chance @Lv10)

Would it be wise to evolve them into her HUR form, or just keep them separate and max both of them out?

>> No.12094538

>>12094508
You would probably do better with Elisabeth instead of the 2nd Lilim. Snow white would die in 2 hits and it would be a lost cause. Unlimited critters are really useful if they can survive a long time through fields.

>> No.12094540

>>12094537

How much did you spend?

>> No.12094544

>>12094533
As far as I'm concerned it's about the same, If you really care count the amount of steps to the boss and compare with the other events, that's probably what makes up the difference.

>>12094508
Thanks for the post, interesting strategy to try out. I've been too lazy to max anything lately, even when there were more obvious additions to my team than this.

>> No.12094546

>>12094537
It's best to keep Fenrir unevo'd until you have other cards that can buff 350% and/or survive 9k+ hits.

>>12094540
Does it matter?

>> No.12094548

>>12094546

Of course it matters.

>> No.12094559

>>12094548
Take your butthurt about cash players elsewhere, Delmesh.

>> No.12094563

Can people stop trying to identify anonymous posters please?

>> No.12094565

>>12094559
Wasn't me, but I could see how the other guy would want to gauge what the rates were. Thanks for being as helpful of a poster as ever.

>> No.12094566

>>12094563
Not until you stop samefagging and double posting, Delmesh.

>> No.12094570

>>12094566
No you should seriously stop. You're just being a faggot when you identify people, and just look like a retard when you're wrong about it. Saying this like "Delmesh" or "Rikka" or whatever the fuck doesn't contribute to this thread at all. So fucking stop.

>> No.12094578

>>12094566
This is so stupid, even if it is Delmesh that's shit posting you aren't helping anything with your own faggotry. It's like trying to hide a pile of human feces by covering it with dog poop.

Hell if Delmesh is such an attention whore, you are giving them exactly what they want: attention.

>> No.12094587 [DELETED] 

>>12094570
>>12094578
More butthurt and samefagging

>> No.12094592

>>12094537
God damn, is that her bush? Anyone have a high res version?

>> No.12094595

>>12094546
Aha, alright. Thanks a bunch for the advice!

>>12094565
I can understand trying to gauge the rates too, I looked up how others were doing before taking a go at it myself. AFAIK, it's literally as it sounds; 1/99 chance. Some people get it faster, some people don't. Whether one wants to try at all is their own choice (or mistake). Just make sure to stick to your decisions if you're simply trying your luck and rolling a couple times, or attempting to go all the way.

>> No.12094606

>>12094592
http://akkey.zombie.jp/AkkeyJin/
Here ya go. Had to get her since AkkeyJin draws all my favourite cards! There's a bunch of fanart of her on pixiv too.

P.S.
Yes.

>> No.12094616

How does healing work in this game? If I have a card that says it heals for 30%, is that 30% of max hp or 30% of hp lost in that battle?

>> No.12094622

>>12094616
Max hp is equivalent to what the card went into battle with. ie. if you have a card with 400/1000 soldiers, go into battle, it will temporarily be a 400/400 soldier card. And heals are based off their temporary max hp. So a 30% heal of that example card would be 120.

>> No.12094654

Is there a special requirement to get all of the war trophies from a map? I ran this make a dozen times and I still haven't gotten all of the trophies from it.

>> No.12094659 [DELETED] 

>>12094654
Each player is assigned 4 random trophies that they can get from the map. The remaining 2 can only be earned via dueling.

>> No.12094666

>>12094654
It's just RNG. And it's not really worth it anyway.

>> No.12094712

Where can I find an enchanter? I ran out of friendship points and didn't get one to make my android.

>> No.12094718

>>12094712
Any of the Area 4 (4-1, 4-2 etc) in the regular campaign has a chance to drop them while fighting in the area. Though you probably will be better off making a team of N cards with DMG to all skills and using it to duel with, unless you just want to experiment with how amalgating and evolution works, you can make tons of Androids but will ever only see exactly two Shamans, two Necromancers, etc. so it is helpful to have some knowledge so you don't screw up their evolutions.

>> No.12094799

Alright, I have enough cards to make 2 androids. Should I lvl them up a bit or should I amagalite them or whatever at lvl 1?

>> No.12094823

>>12094799
Uh the FAQ says you can amalgamate them at level 1, but when you evolve two androids, make sure they're both max level first and use a succession arcana.

>> No.12094826

>>12094799
It's optimal to max the Enchanter and Mechanic but quite honestly I wouldn't bother, the difference is not huge. You can go ahead and Amalgate them into Androids, but if you do decide to Evolve the two Androids together, make sure that they are both at Max Level (40) and that you use a Gold Arcana Succession to carry over more stats.

>> No.12094876

>>12094823

What happens if they aren't lvl 40? Getting them to lvl 40 will take a long time and I really could use a good card right now. I manage to get a slime through normal summoning. How do I use it?

>> No.12094881

>>12094876

Will my android gain more exp if I send them into battle solo instead of with fodder units?

>> No.12094888

>>12094876
When you evolve/amalgamate a card at its max level, the resulting card will gain 5% of the original card's stats. For things like ATK/DEF this is a worthless mechanic, since you can raise those stats as you desire with the corresponding arcana. Where this becomes useful is in soldier count, since that can't be raised by any item. On five-card evolutions, this is usually the difference of 2000 or more soldiers.

Using an arcana succession will get you an extra unconditional 5%, meaning with each evolution/amalgamation you can get an extra 10% stats on the resulting card.

>> No.12094890

>>12094881
No

>>12094876
5 to 15% of stats carry over when you evolve, and I think its 8% for amalgamation? Something like that. But at your level getting a lot of cards to level 30/40 is a very large investment and isn't worth the bother for a card that's as meh as android. A large part of the issue is that the FAQ at the top is outdated.

>> No.12094899

>>12094890

So I should get two lvl 1 androids and evolve them?

>> No.12094901

>>12094899
If you want, it's just preferred to max their levels first for more stats.

>> No.12094906

>>12094890
>A large part of the issue is that the FAQ at the top is outdated.
While I certainly agree that the FAQ is outdated, a large part of why it's outdated is all the critters being handed out at events now. Consequently, the current best way to establish your account--build kingdom specialized for encountering more AWs, fill out your friendlist with killers, join alliance of killers, and send AW/FAW as much as possible--is a metagame. Once the rewards change, new players will be in exactly the same shitty situation we were when we started. And while nubee has come up with a way to hand us critters without giving away OP cards, I'm not placing any confidence that this trend will continue for much longer.

>> No.12094927

10 Destroyers in a row, no FAW encounter. Now isn't that fun.

>> No.12094946

>>12092830

It seems that I can imput someone's invite code for a free card. Want me to use yours?

>> No.12095090
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12095090

Why can't this situation ever happen when I'm fighting an FAW?

>> No.12095093

>>12095090
Why am I never in that situation where I have an HSR Lilim and more than 0* Polaris with 3 HUR cards?

>> No.12095107

Is it better to have a bunch of attack buffers on a team or 1-2 buffers and a bunch of critters?

>> No.12095112

>>12095107
Most people go for teams that kill AW the fastest so the best one is probably 2 Critter, 3 Buff.

>> No.12095166

>>12095107
From the previous thread

3 200% buffers means 700k-800k damage per tap, or 900k-999k if you have elemental advantage per tap. Please note that if the tapper in question isn't at full health that number will go down. There is a damage softcap on physical attacks of 700k-800k unless you have witchhunt or elemental advantage. Activateable abilities are capped at 999,999 damage.

3rd 1* team buffer is generally better than a 3rd 1* critter. Think about it this way, if only 2 buffers proc, you are still dealing 200k to 300k damage per tap, while if only 2 critters proc, you are only getting 250k to 450k damage twice. This gets further compounded when comparing 3 critters proccing to 3 buffers proccing.

Furthermore, if you compare 1 200% buffer with 2 critters proccing, you are dealing 1200k to 2000k damage in 1 turn. On the other hand, if 2 200% buffers proc and 1 critter procs, you are dealing 1200k to 1300k damage in a single turn, and 200k to 300k damage per tap for every attack after that point, even if nothing else procs (assuming you don't get fielded or die).

>> No.12095180

>>12094946
sure, go ahead. Mostly for your own benefit since you'll get a copy too, haha. Apparantly it is an android only thing.

>> No.12095197

>>12095166
>Furthermore, if you compare 1 200% buffer with 2 critters proccing, you are dealing 1200k to 2000k damage in 1 turn.
How does this work? When I get a 200% buff, my OA crits for around 600-700k and my Ragnarok would crit for around 450-500k. And a normal tap from OA would do 70-80k totally a max of like 1280k in one turn. That doesn't get anywhere near close to 2000k damage in one turn. Unless we're talking about elemental advantages included?

>> No.12095199

>>12095197
>totally
total*

>> No.12095224

>>12095197
A player with low end passive bonuses is going to see crits in the 600k range, a player with high end passive bonuses is going to see crits up to 999,999 damage. With 2x max elemental buildings you'll be in the 950k to 999,999 range for a max attack UR/HUR critter with a single 200% buff.

>> No.12095238

>>12095224
That explains it. I haven't bothered with any of the elemental buildings yet. It looks like I should definitely get started on them.

>> No.12095315

What's the deal with all the 0bp/0dmg entries on the assists list? People who clicked to assist but the AW was already dead? Or just some weird glitch?

>> No.12095357
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12095357

Nice.

>> No.12095365

>>12095224
So should I build one elemental building at a time, or should I equalize both?

>> No.12095368

>>12095365

Whatever's cheaper.

>> No.12095390

>>12095368
Correction:

When they are priced the same to upgrade you go for the one that takes less time to build.

>> No.12095391

>>12095315
Generally it's people who lost their connection or the game crashed, though it can also be from bugs.

>>12095365
Mostly comes down to what you have the resources for, or are you talking about focusing on 1 element compared to 5? You'll want to max the elemental building(s) of whatever your main attackers are.

>> No.12095512

What does this confirm to receive bonus skill do?

>> No.12095517

>>12095512
If you activate it during a map battle, 100% chance to get a chance once the fight is over (n card or sacred treasure). Doesn't work on AW or anything good, so it's mostly just for getting sacred treasures and N cards for making androids and sages.

>> No.12095580

>>12095315
It's people still engaged to the AW.
Their damage and stuff shows up after they're done with it.

>> No.12095639

Does anybody want to be my FAW killer ? I missed at least 5 Matrixes in my 4 days of playtime ;_;
I promise I won't spam you with shitty AWs 6ofv6

>> No.12095651

>>12095639
Sent request. I will kill some AWs too if I have spare BP.

>> No.12095655

>>12095651
Added. Thanks.

>> No.12095669

I don't get how you guys can send to the shit poster who comes here everyday and actively tries to ruin this community, if you didn't know, it's Seish. I guess it doesn't matter, since he finally went ahead and dropped and his own name earlier anyway.

>> No.12095682

>>12095669
Doesn't matter that I mention his name rather, I'd think supporting someone who does nothing but instigate fights would not be helped. I don't know about you, but I'd rather be able to enjoy this place than get a few extra sends from infinite swords.

>> No.12095702

>>12095669
You haven't been making yourself look all that great either. Both of you need to learn to take it easy.

>> No.12095711

>>12095702
I suppose you're right. I just thought I'd say something as he name drops me over and over, and I've stopped mentioning him long ago, oh well I'm done. If he keeps coming here I'll probably just give my account up anyway, because it's really not worth playing without a community to have and read interesting discussions with.

>> No.12095727

>>12095711
>I'll probably just give my account up anyway
You've just invited more trolling. I hope you enjoy it, because he now has a tangible goal.

>> No.12095741

>>12095711
Who are you?

Well anyway, I wonder when I'll get a second team buffer or Lilim so that I can start killing FAWs..

>> No.12095743 [DELETED] 

>>12095727
I'm aware that means he wins, that's fine. The playing field in which we argue is uneven. Since he chooses to come nowhere but here to attack me and other users, he has the upper hand, as he has no regard as to what happens to this place. Any other medium won't do, as his only power is to ruin something one enjoys, that he doesn't. Deleting in 5 min, not like he hasn't seen it already anyway.

>> No.12095745

I am seriously having trouble choosing between 1 Ultimate Summon ticket and 10 slimes.
Amalgamating Ragnarok will consume tons of slimes when I get the last 2 Destroyers I need.

>> No.12095750

>>12095745
Ultimate ticket, definitely. I'd understand if you had trouble deciding between shoes/swords and the ticket, but you get so many slimes for friendship summons and AW drops that it's not worth it in the slightest.

>> No.12095752

>>12095745
Never go for slime exchanges. Just be patient. If you can wait for the next alliance battle, you can stock up on them easily.

>> No.12095757

Is "Vending Machine" worth using for a new player or am I better off exchanging them for medals ?

>> No.12095758

What use do you have for Slime anyway?I have like 6 or 7 of them in my collection. I just know you can fuse Metal Slime for Medal Girl.

>> No.12095759

>>12095750
I have 10 maxed Slimes stuffed into collection, 20 more in deck, and hell know how many in the present box. Soon I will start feeding one Slime into another.

>> No.12095762

>>12095757
A free R that you are sure to max into HR, with 2xAW damage and infinite 350% damage proc. And she is quite hot.

If you are new, use her.

>> No.12095767

>>12095762
Then is she also worth evolving with max level cards ? I doubt I can do that easily since I managed to max only one slime.

>> No.12095768

>>12095750
>>12095752
Alright, thank you. Ultimate Summon ticket, then. Once I get my daily login bonus that is.

>>12095758
They can be used to level other cards, reducing the amount of needed N cards and gold. Refer the FAQ.

>> No.12095776

>>12095767
Don't underestimate the power of a properly evolved card, even if the skill is crap. Trade some Rs you aren't using for medals, buy training arcana, level your slimes by feeding copious amounts of N cards, then slap a single lvl27+ slime and a single training arcana on the R you want to be max level.

>> No.12095785

>>12095767
Vending Machine is going to be a bit harder to recommend because you need five copies to get her to HR, and this event requires you to clear the last event stage to get the fifth copy. She's certainly good against archwitches, but depending on your ability to fight through the event map it may not be practical to get her.

Rocket Punch (from Duels) would be easier to raise since you only need one arcana succession and two lv.27 slimes to make a perfect stat Lv.1 HR Rocket Punch.

It might also be a good idea to list off what SR and R cards you have.

>> No.12095790

>>12095785
Oops, you'd also need to use Arcana blessings or trainings to level the R cards to 40.

>> No.12095810
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12095810

Will you be my friends? Anyone that can help me deal with FAWs and high level AWs would be appreciated ~
My code is 6oh4p

>> No.12095816

>>12095810
What's with your name and are you saying she's your wife or you're her wife?

>> No.12095820

>>12095816
She's my waifu of course!

>> No.12095824

>>12095820
well ok then!

>> No.12095826

>>12095820
Why didn't you use は?

>> No.12095831

>>12095826
Wouldn't using は mean that "ice" is my waifu?

>> No.12095915

I see people sending like 10 FAWs one after another while I barely get one every 4-5 AWs.

What the hell.

>> No.12095944

>>12095743
>gap
>>12095727
I'm aware that means he wins, that's fine. The playing field in which we argue is uneven. Since he chooses to come nowhere but here to attack me and other users, he has the upper hand, as he has no regard as to what happens to this place. Any other medium won't do, as his only power is to ruin something one enjoys, that he doesn't. Deleting in 5 min, not like he hasn't seen it already anyway.

Reposting so everyone can read.

>> No.12095948

>>12095915
It's all luck. And swords. You probably don't see the 100 AWs he/she does in between the FAW sends. Many people can kill AWs in 2-3 turns, so it happens fast.

That being said, the FAW chance seems to be 25% overall, so one per 5 witches is perfectly normal.

>> No.12095954

>>12095948
Pretty sure it's 20%, so even more perfectly normal per 5.
>>12095944
>Reposting so everyone can read.
Why try to stir shit up?

>> No.12095957

>>12095954
Sure 'bout that? I did the math on my victories screen, and over about 2000 witches, the FAW count was almost always perfectly aligned at 25%.

>> No.12095958

>>12095948
I am the one killing since they can't, just the fact they get FAW after like every 2nd AW is astonishing. Not that I'm complaining.

>> No.12095959

>>12095944
thank you for your great service to this thread

10/10 A+++++ poster would kill FAWs for

>> No.12095962

Anyone speak Chinese? I'm assuming that they have simply hacked the game and bot their way to victory these days, since they so heavily dominate the ranking.

>> No.12095966

>>12095957
Guess I'm not so sure anymore. Just thought I remembered reading that number somewhere.

>> No.12095967

>>12095962
The Chinese aren't doing much this event. Last event was fucking bullshit though with that rank 1 Chinese pulling 20m+ every single day.

>> No.12095973
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12095973

Uh oh, I think I made her pregnant

>> No.12095975

>>12095962
It should be extremely easy to hack this game. All the battles occur on client and not on the server. Your game just sends the result of the battle and by using the simplest packet crafting tool you can just send "I WON IN ONE TURN, 99999999 DAMAGE, LOTS OF POINTS" for every FAW battle you get. It's probably possible to hack points from amusement buildings as well for infinite premium summon tickets.

>> No.12095981

>>12095973
Too bad it wasn't Snow White.

>> No.12095983

>>12095975
I had this thought concerning battle evaluation as well. But while Japanese generally can't into code, they can't be that stupid, right? Surely the client sends the results of each turn and they do some validation on that (though it would still be easy to fake valid-looking results)

>> No.12095993

>>12095981
That's sick dude.

>> No.12095996

>>12095993
That's my dream... I love Snow White. I want her to have my children.

>> No.12095997

>>12095975
I'm not sure why you'd even want to play this game at that point.

>> No.12096022
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12096022

More fan art for you, Delmesh.
I call it "The Daily Life of Turdmesh."

>> No.12096025

>>12096022
Plz stop picking on Delmesh he's gonna quit. He's my favorite FAWK. He plays like 24/7 for me!

>> No.12096026

>>12095983
This is a game for mobile phones. Developers are not stupid to expect that every user lives in a country with 3g/4g or has free wifi everywhere. This game works even with my crappy EDGE internet. And sometimes (in places with really bad connection) I wait for 10-15 seconds to close a simple confirmation popup. And now imagine if each turn during the battle would take 10+ seconds.

>>12095997
Every game has cheaters. But if you don't see them, you don't care about them.

>> No.12096038

Do I just sell my useless rares for medals or level them first ?

>> No.12096042

>>12096038
Sell.

>> No.12096063

>>12095983
Nope, the game doesn't. Easiest way to check is to disconnect while you are in battle. Your battle continues as usual, until it is over then the client would attempt to contact the server, where you get the loading circle.

>> No.12096079

>>12096026
>>12096063
I'm not saying it should check back every turn, but to save the results of each turn and then transmit these results when the battle is over.

>> No.12096135

Why do we even have the "New /jp/ alliance" column in the spreadsheet? No one ever posts something sensible in there.

>> No.12096158
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12096158

Here is my team. With current setup I can 1bp AW with ~50% chance.

I just gathered 45k medals and I wonder what card should I max first? At the moment Nicole's dmg output seems stronger (and unlike Sophie's crit her proc is useful even before Asherah's buff), but I wonder if critter will be more useful in the future. Besides I have second Sophie (and probably I will be able to get Ragnarok as well) so I wonder if I should max her instead and then start constructing passion element buildings.

>> No.12096163

>>12096158
Sophie, no questions asked. You have that team buffer, after all, and you need burst damage.

>> No.12096172

>>12096163
I though that too at first. I'm hesitating because of the difference in dmg.
With Asherah's buff Sophie deals 15k dmg with tap and 220 with crit. DPS: 15k + 220k * 0.2 = 59k dmg/turn.
Nicole with both buffs deal 80k dmg/turn. It's 33% more than Sophie does.

>> No.12096174

>>12096158
Medals aren't something you have to worry about so much. Just keep poking FAW and you'll gather plenty.

As for your question, I'd max out Sophie. 1x 200% buff and she'll be critting for 500k. Plus, she has a high proc rate.

>> No.12096180

>>12096172
But then you add another critter - and suddenly the value of team buff goes up, while the value of self buff goes down. Then you add another critter, and suddenly the value of team buff goes up again, and the value of self buff goes down even more.

Besides, you are calculating that crit damage down to DPS - that doesn't do in VC. Speed is king. Speed will win your battle before you get AW fielded. Speed will win your battle before you get crit/sharded/embered.

>> No.12096183

>>12096158
I have 2 maxed att Sophie (19999+10599) and with one 200% buff they deal 900-970k crits/75-80k taps to Matrix (advantage) and 650-700k crits/55-60k taps to Ragnaros.

With second 200% buff crits deal max damage even low on health, tap damage to Matrix is around 260-270k, Ragnarok 180-200k.

I have Ragnarok but I don't really like her 5% lower chance to crit even if she has one more proc.

>> No.12096222

>>12096183
While Ragnarok has a 5% less chance to proc turn one, after Sophie procs twice she has a 0 percent chance to proc at all. That's very important against 4 million health AWs where you need 3 or 4 procs to win and even more important if we get FAW with 5+ million health.

>> No.12096229

>>12096222
Assuming the team will survive long enough to have her proc 3 times.

>> No.12096234

>>12096229
This. If you're worrying about not having enough procs to kill a FAW, you won't ever live long enough to make use of additional procs.

>> No.12096243

>>12096180
>>12096174
Another question: do I need to click on N card, select arcana and then click fuse button 200+ times to max this ugly as fuck Sophie? Or is there some way to feed all arcanas at the same time?

>> No.12096244
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12096244

I am the luckiest person ever

>> No.12096245

>>12096243
Yes. No.

Unfortunately.

>> No.12096247

>>12096244
If you were lucky you would get something better than Soul Eater.

>> No.12096254

>>12096243
Who are you calling 'ugly', nerd?

>> No.12096257

>>12096247
Soul Eater is pretty good I like her

>> No.12096261

>>12096254
I agree. Sophie is actually pretty nice, compared to say, Elizabeth. Or Ragnaros. Or even OA.

>> No.12096262

>>12096254
I bet he faps to Snow White. Freak.

>> No.12096269

>>12096261
>Ragnaros. Or even OA.
For a second there I thought you were talking about Ragnarok and Oracle Ascendant.
Because you can't be calling them ugly.

>> No.12096276

>>12096269
Everything turns to shit when you have to stare at it for seven million hours a day when fighting witches.

>> No.12096278

>>12096262
Say what you want, Snow White does have nice tits.

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12096281

>>12096276
And yet Metatron's ass is eternal.

>> No.12096293

Sophie's picture looks like a screenshot from the a generic and low-budget VN. Typical animu face, typical pose, typical school uniform, typical obento. It only lacks selection:
>EAT HER OBENTO
>DO NOT EAT HER OBENTO
And you obviously go for the second choice, because you don't want to see a sex scene with her even if it's just to unlock 100% of the in-game gallery.

>> No.12096302

>>12096293
Wow... just wow. Such rudeness.

>> No.12096305

>>12096293
Of course you don't want to eat her obento, it deals critical damage.
But I still like her.

>> No.12096306

>>12096244
I got her about two events ago, now she's chilling in my collection along with other pretty, but useless SRs. The best SR I've got recently is Flu, so now I'm thinking of putting together a delay team with her and Journalist. How viable is that, anyways? I've got the HSR Nicola, at least.

>> No.12096307

>>12096293
Speak for yourself, nerd.

>> No.12096313

>>12096306
If you want to spend ages on every AW, try it.

>> No.12096316

>>12096306
Isn't she arguably one of the better/more durable SRs when it comes to AWing? She's basically the same as a 20%/350%, which are meh, but with huge lifesteal to keep her alive. She's a touch low on soldier count but not by much, and given her lifesteal she would have pretty high effective HP I'd think.

Not dropping my HURs for her to try it out though.

>> No.12096321

>>12096316
Just use a team healer if you want durability.

>> No.12096332

wow, look how fast we are today!

>> No.12096334

>>12093685
Heh, you were right. It's already calmed down a bit after the weekend. Daily 100 is 4.8m, and I climbed 40 ranks doing 5.4m.
Hope people keep taking it easy.

>> No.12096374

>>12096313
I'm already reaching 100 turns on most AWs with my debuff team unless she Waves each one of my units. Surely it can't get any slower than that, since I'm actually buffing my units rather than debuffing the AW?

>> No.12096431

>>12096374
Oh god, how horrifying. I would be even more burned out if I had that setup.

>> No.12096440

>>12096431
I doubt it, please consider other players perspectives. If you are using that team, you're probably not getting sends 24/7. If that's what you're given, make lemonade do your best to get closer to acing, and you will be rewarded eventually through perseverance.

>> No.12096468

>>12096440
and as an addendum

>>12095727
This will only go to shed an undeniable light on the fact that he comes here everyday to start drama.
Please see >>12096022
>>12096025
>>12096262
and surely plenty more

Have you noticed an increased frequency of quality posts whenever this squad comes around?

>> No.12096507

>>12096468
Stay mad.

>> No.12096510

>>12096468
It's pretty creepy how obsessed they are with you.

>> No.12096515

>>12096313
>>12096334
A debuff team with a max attack 20%/350% damage card can let you kill an AW in 23 to 35 turns depending upon your passive bonuses. It can be even faster if you have elemental advantage.

The thing to consider though, is that a 20%/350% card has no place on an endgame team. A max attack Ragnarok on the other hand, with her 3 crits, can do well on both a debuff team or a blitz team. I'd suggest just going Ragnarok, debuffer x2, AoE healer x2 until you get better cards.

>> No.12096517

>>12096510
samefag detected

>> No.12096520

HOLY FUCK A SECOND LILIM.

Suddenly an awesome drop after the long streaks of crap!

>> No.12096527

>>12096510
Thanks for you're agreeance even through the constant sameposting. At this point, I don't see how anyone who enjoys these threads being on /jp/ could possibly work along with him by trading sends.

>>12096517
Whatever you say. Unless it's you, every time you accuse me of that, it's just one more anon that knows not to trust you.

>> No.12096530
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>>12096517
Whatever you say, creeper.

>> No.12096532

>>12096520
Congrats! I remember getting my second Lilim and the tears of joy I about cried.

>> No.12096537

>>12096530
Hmm, seems you were a bit late to imitate me once again. Further, the post rate suddenly sky rockets when they post.

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>>12096520
Lilim never.

>> No.12096539

Holy shi... getting bored of this...
-Wake up, use all BP
-Get back to sleep.
-Wake up again, use all BP, eat, rest.
-Use all BP again, rest.
-Use all BP again, open chests, nothing, back to sleep.

>> No.12096541

>>12096537
I'm just replying to the post that replied to me.

>> No.12096559

>>12096538
;_;
Just need to be patient I suppose, you'll get her eventually!
I got my first one at the end of the oracle event, and have been desperate to HSR so she wouldn't get 1-shot by FAWs.

>> No.12096564

>>12096527
Okay, Delmesh. I'm not going to even grace you with an actual reply here, but all I'm going to say is that I'm not Seish, and if you'd like to continue thinking that the one posting the glorious fanart is Seish too, go for it. But I can say for sure that it's not. Whether you believe me or not is up to your faggot ass.
In truth, I'm mostly a lurker, so you probably wouldn't guess who this even is.

>> No.12096571

I wish I had my own group of stalkers...

>> No.12096574

I wish that Delmesh and the people constantly bringing him up would all fuck off. It's not on-topic game discussion and literally no one fucking cares outside of your little group of autists. It doesn't matter if Delmesh is satan or if he's samefagging or if Seish or whatever is super satan or if he's samefagging, you're all obnoxious as hell.

>> No.12096581

>>12096574
Honestly, I wish Delmesh would just leave the community. All he does is stir up drama by being in it. The people bringing him up are just reacting to him. If he just left I'm sure everyone would calm the fuck down.

>> No.12096583

>>12096571
I wish someone would mention my name in these threads. Just once would makes me happy.

>> No.12096588
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12096588

10 Slimes are much better than 100 medals, aren't they?

>> No.12096590

>>12096588
You wouldn't.

>> No.12096595

>>12096564
I love the fan art as well, I only feel bad for the repercussions already addressed by the reposter here, >>12095944

>>12096468
If this doesn't prove Seish and friends only come here to start drama, I don't know what will. I think it's quite evident that they will continue to come here solely to do this, so if you want to align yourself with that, I guess I can't stop you.

>> No.12096608
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12096608

>>12096431
>>12096440
>>12096515
First screenshot is killing a FAW with a debuff deck without elemental advantage, second screenshot is killing a 4 million health FAW when the attacker has elemental advantage. I know it says "Challenge 2" on the second screenshot, but that's only because I ate a turn 1 ember, which kills any team other than a full HUR setup.

While I certainly wouldn't recommend a debuff deck, if you don't have the cards for a blitz deck a debuff deck can get the job done. Also, since there are plenty of players eager to kill any FAW you may come across, you can simply deal 51% of the damage to make sure you get ace then send the FAW off to your alliance and comrades. Takes around a minute and a half to get the FAW down to 49% health, or 2 and a half to kill.

>> No.12096656

>>12096608
Could have enter several battles and poke on other people's FAW by the time you finish 1 battle using debuff deck.

>> No.12096672

>>12096656
If you aren't capable of killing FAW, it's doubtful that you are getting that many FAW sent to you. It's only a minute and a half for 51% anyways.

>> No.12096702

>>12096672
Probably but I still think it's better to have a deck that do maximum damage, then send to killers while you do other things.

That or being attentive to your FAW battle. I think it would be tiresome as you enter more FAW battle.

>> No.12096787

!!! I got a fantasy AW. Anyone on right now to kill it? ID is 6ehqc, add me asap!

>> No.12096798

>>12096608
This seems like a huge time sink, which i guess is fine if you enjoy playing this game and have the time to do so. If i had more time on my hand i probably wouldn't mind running a debuff deck either but i'd rather spend that time doing other stuff.

On a side note, what's better for getting progress points and AW's? Doing the starter zones of the event or the last few zones which cost a lot more vitality but award more progress points?

>> No.12096809

>>12096798
I usually run 5-4 till I have 60-70 vitality left, then I run 1-2 over and over for AWs.

2-4 is a good middleground too.

>> No.12096841

>>12096787
12 minutes left on this matrix. No killers around? ;_;

>> No.12096878

>>12096841
Heh, got it last second. You might want to add more killers from the spreadsheet though since I'm not very reliable.

>> No.12096881

>>12096798
I'd rather spend a minute and a half clicking on an faw than spend it going in and out of the aw screen hoping someone sends to me, but ultimately it comes down to personal preference and how many senders or traders you are able to befriend.

>> No.12096901

There's no point in max leveling a card before evolving it if you're only going to use it for its passive ability right? Im thinking of combining my star readers and using that just for the 40% bonus xp

>> No.12096904

>>12096901
It depends on what you are using her for. If you are putting her on an AWK team to quickly max some of your slimes, having a bit of extra attack and defense on her can help a tiny amount in the fight.

>> No.12097131

>>12096608
>which kills any team other than a full HUR setup.
Minor addendum: it won't kill a maxed same-element HUR if done from full health. I've had my Oracle/Juliet team survive many an Ice Shards.

>> No.12097137

>>12097131
Actually, my reading comprehension is shit. Ignore that post, it only reinforces what you said.

>> No.12097154

What are your opinions on leveling magic school for the AW encounter rates? Worth it or not? So far I have mine at Lv3.

>> No.12097192

>>12097154
I have a max magic school, and it's rare for me to step forward and not encounter an AW.

>> No.12097203

>>12097192
Wow, that's pretty slick. I think I'll go ahead and get mine to Lv5 for now, and more after I start having BP issues again. Wanna be able to share more of them FAWs. Thanks!

>> No.12097297

>>12096608
How effective is this? I'm considering making my 3rd Attack Unit to be like this if it's a high chance of winning. My chances of winning against a FAW right now with a healer, maxed self buffer, maxed OA, maxed Rag, and 0* team buffer is really low. Is it required to have your 30%/350% attacker to be maxed for this?

>> No.12097329

Is it better to have a max stat card first or a max skill card (and what skill priorities), generally speaking?

>> No.12097334

>>12097329
Maxing skill can happen whenever because when you evolve, the higher skill level transfers (similar to friendship level). Maxing a stat should only be considered with a fully evolved card (unless UR) because if you evolved a maxed stat card, you'll lose a chunk of those stats. Maxing a skill only takes a little over 5k medals whereas maxing a stat can take around 40k.

>> No.12097339

>>12097329
Max skill is usually better, and cheaper at that, both in terms of medals and time investment. The first card I maxed was one with a 300% self buff (Cu Chuulain) and then a unlimited critter (Hervor) which both served well until the monsters that are Oracle Ascendant came up.

Of course, if you really want more damage, you'll just have to suck it up and 19k your best cards. If you have support cards like debuffers or healers, you probably want to max their skill level too, though maxing their stats will probably not be your higest priority.

>> No.12097364

>>12097297
Yes the 30%/350% has to be max attack, or you could use an infinite proc critter like Snow White or Scylla, also max attack.

After 3 or 4 debuffs, aw ember's damage is in the 5k range (depending upon your card defense and passives). At 6 debuffs, for me its 1800 damage to base defense hsrs or 1300 damage to max defense cards from ember. The FAW taps for 200-300 damage. It's a fairly reliable setup but its also slow.

>> No.12097371

>>12097364
Could you perhaps tell me the cards or what's required for this? I can't really tell some of the cards.

>> No.12097375

Did you guys see rank 1? Seish stole Ema's name so he could get more sends.

>> No.12097379

>>12097375
Nobody cares.

>> No.12097380

>>12097371
Penemue and Harariel are the some of the only SR ATK debuffers now obtainable and the odds of getting them are pretty low. You could sub in R versions like Halfelf, Delphinus, Oneiros but their survivability and proc rates are a lot worse.

I also see two SR healer cards and a 30% proc damage dealer in the middle

>> No.12097387

>>12097380
Ahh, I DO have a 0* Nyx... but that's about it for SR debuffers. Damn, this might not work out for me. Guess I'll just keep killing AWs in hopes for a better team. Btw, what do you suggest I take out next in my aforementioned team? I'm thinking it'll either be my healer or my self buffer.

>> No.12097388

>>12097375
So was that what happened? I was thinking it was a bug for quite awhile. Definitely wasn't Ema's kingdom/collection. If that's true, that's pretty low.

>> No.12097410

>>12097334
>>12097339
Makes sense, thanks for the tips. So if I were to max out a skill right now, should I prioritize Fenrirs, critters, or healers first?

I also don't really think I'll be getting anything on par with the Fenrirs for quite awhile, so would it be wise to drop another 12k to get both their procs to 20% for now? (I'm not evolving her anytime soon)

>> No.12097411

>>12097388
Well Seish was going zombie for like 2 days straight. He hasn't been on /jp/ or had the time to be on /jp/. Whatever you guys would like to assume is great, but he really doesn't give two shits about Delmesh. The above said posts is Delmesh being jealous of the 19mils daily and got extremely butthurt and wanted attention. Delmesh himself never made a 19mil daily and was given his rank 1 on a silver platter. That's why he went full emo and said he was going to give his account away. I don't know what's going on with him taking Ema's name, but he seems to be back to his normal name now. People can go full retard and say they don't care, but they still read the posts and feel the need to respond so it's a valid discussion.

>> No.12097418

>>12097411
lol all three of those posts were undoubtedly Seish paid goons

>> No.12097422

>>12097418
You really don't seem to get it. No one likes you.

>> No.12097426

>>12097422
In case you didn't notice, your post was the only one of the three to mention me.

>> No.12097428

>>12097426
I'm glad you have the intelligence to count to three. You should use that intelligence on something productive. Like a job maybe.

>> No.12097432

>>12097371
You need 2 or 3 debuffers, 1 or 2 healers, and a max attack infinite proc damage card to kill FAW with such a setup. HR debuffs are workable, but due to their lower proc chance it will hurt the reliability a lot.

>> No.12097473

>>12097387
I actually used 0* Nyx with a healer and she's actually not bad, her stats at 0* are still pretty decent. Not as amazing as having SR debuffers but she does take out a ton of damage very easily. She was a mainstay on my FAW teams until I got better cards, even with the threat of AW field.

>> No.12097516

>>12097410
You have a Fenrir? Shit. Max that ASAP. Max it in the order you put it in, I think that'd be great. And if you have two Fenrirs, then yes definitely get both skills maxed (unless you're planning to HUR for some reason).

>> No.12097577

>>12097516
O-okay. Thanks again for all your advice. Next thing I gotta do is figure out a cool element AWK team... ;w; All my healers are passion/light! :(

>> No.12097583

A complete and absolute newbie here looking forward to start playing Valk Crusade since I've just got a phone that's able to run it.

I'm wondering, is it possible to play this and get good stuff without wasting money on it?

What should I know about the game besides what's written in FAQ?

>> No.12097593

>>12097583
The best I can say is yes, it is playable without spending much/anything at all. It just takes dedication and time. If you play casually and got time you need to pass now and then, you'll probably be doing pretty well in a couple months. It starts out pretty slow (as stated in the FAQ), but events get updated pretty often, so you'll have many chances to start getting better cards as time goes by. Just find a good alliance and start adding some strong friends on the big ol' list. And have fun! ^^ Welcome to the gang.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvW2LsNqEuR8dEFpVGRGVm1CWE5JUE1KNmcwX3dNekE&usp=sharing#gid=0

>> No.12097596

>>12097577
Did you get any Oracle Ascendants from a few events back? If so, that'd be perfect for your team.
>>12097583
>>12097583
>I'm wondering, is it possible to play this and get good stuff without wasting money on it?
You can be a completely free player and still be great at this game. Most of it is RNG but also having good comrades/alliance aides the process of getting more chances at good cards as well. This game is very time consuming as you play through it, and requires perseverance.

>> No.12097600

>>12097583
Yeah, you can definitely get great stuff that can beat the toughest of enemies they throw at you. There are also leader boards, which for me, are given importance by the rewards they give out for getting high rankings. These rewards are exclusives, never to return again and the game can get pretty competitive, if you want those cards. This is where the expensive cards really come into play, and they are exclusively available to pay for them. Technically, they are not exclusive to pay players, but the drop rate is close to 1% or less, and earn yourself one shot at them, you will have to overcome some darn difficult obstacles such as, placing high in the rankings or completing an event map. Enjoy it, jump in, and move at your own pace.

>> No.12097603

>>12097583
Yes, nubee is very generous with giving out gems. We get 100 (1$) worth of gems every 7 days. 200 last week i believe.

Starting out, upgrade your resources as much as possible while and level up your castle whenever you get the chance. Your first priority should be a 3rd workshop; save your gems and do NOT use it for summonings at all. After you get a workshop, try to get a magic school and Yggdrasil tree. The final upgrade to the castle will require 2000 gems, but a lot of people opt not to do it, or wait until way later. Personally i think it's worth saving up for.

Progress through the campaign at your own speed, but try not to spend too much resources on refilling your soldiers; the majority of your resources should be going towards establishing and developing your town as far as possible.

Don't bother resetting or rerolling there's no point.

Later on, try to get the R cards from completing relic/treasure sets by getting the last few from Duals. Look for people with only 5 soldier to steal their relics from, they have tons so they won't even notice it missing.

Getting good stuff pretty much comes down to RNG from killing archwitches. Starting off, you're going to be relying on AWKillers to kill AWs for you. This is pretty much true until you get decent enough cards to kill them on your own.

>> No.12097609

>>12097603
>Don't bother resetting or rerolling there's no point.

Forgot to say, it's because later on you'll be swimming in R cards.

A good starter card to make is a SR android. Check the wikia to see how to properly make one, although you'll probably end up asking how anyways since the process is a bit confusing your first time. Just remember even if you mess up, because the cards you're evolving and amalgating are so common, it isn't the end of the world if you screw up somewhere. You're going to get dozens of the same copy cards later.

>> No.12097611

Thanks everyone.

Seems like I can enter anyones code for the referral bonus, anyone wants it? I guess I'll just give it to the first one posted.

Also what are some alliances that I could join?

>> No.12097633

>>12097611
Uh, i guess you could add mine although I'm pretty shitty; i can't really kill anything for you.

281g8

I think there's a /jp/ alliance or something so maybe someone can invite you to that?

>> No.12097664

>>12097603
>Don't bother resetting or rerolling there's no point.
You could keep rerolling until you get a UR, though that could be 100+ rerolls. Even more if you are unlucky or only want a good UR.

>>12097596
>This game is very time consuming as you play through it, and requires perseverance.
That depends on what you want out of the game. If you don't plan on competing and accept the fact that you'll never get every card in the game, you can just casually log in for an hour or two per day and get the occasional cute card.

>> No.12097667

>>12097633
That actually gave me a 4 star R monster so I guess that will help out. Thanks.

>> No.12097672

>>12097667
It's actually 0 stars with the potential of being a 4 star. Every time you evolve it with another Assistant Loid, you'll gain 1 star. So to get the full 4 stars, you'll need 5 copies of Assistant Loid. It'll then become a SR.

>> No.12097674

>>12097672
>It'll then become a HR.
ftfy

>> No.12097678

>>12097667
m-m-monster?!!

>> No.12097686

>>12097678
Eh, whatever you wanna call it. Card I guess.

Should I just add my information to the last line of the google docs?
Also is it fine to try and add friends from that list?

>> No.12097688

>>12097686
Want me to hold your hands?

>> No.12097692
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Wow, I can't believe I just pulled her. Now I have two different 0* team buffers. Out of these, what should I replace to put her in?

>HSR - 15%/70% heal 4 proc
>HSR - 15%/300% self buff (19999 atk)
>UR - 15%/ice crit 2 proc (29999 atk)
>HSR - 15%/fire crit 3 proc (19999 atk)
>SR 0* - 15%/200% team buff

>> No.12097693

>>12097688
But they're not cold or anything.

>> No.12097695

>>12097686
>Also is it fine to try and add friends from that list?
If they're not full, I don't see why not. You won't be able to add if they're full anyway.

>> No.12097699

>>12097686
Yeah, you can add your info to the list at the bottom. Add whoever is listed as a Killer so you can send them your AWs and you can collect the loot.

Also, forgot to mention if you just started you have a 24 hr period where you have unlimited vitality. If you can, take advantage of this and try to get as far as you can in the cybercity event or normal campaign. Not necessary to do but kinda nice to have that head start in the beginning.

>> No.12097746

>>12097692
I'd pull the healer especially since you already have maxed attack on three of your cards, they'll be pretty squishy but once they proc go for huge damage.

>> No.12097754

>>12097746
I'm testing it out right now. It's either taking out my healer or taking out my self buffer. So far it seemed like my procs weren't happening with my healer out, but with my healer back in it likes to proc some more. Still need more testing though. Open to opinions.

>> No.12097757

>>12097754
how about taking out the healer and self buffer, replace with ensemble and another crit card.

>> No.12097761

>>12097757
I could try that. I think the only other HSR crit I have is Elisabeth. I just feel like my healer is necessary because my team buffers are so squishy being 0*.

>> No.12097775

As a starter is it worth fusing two Aqua Knights or should level them to max level and then fuse them?

>> No.12097816

>>12097775
If you can get the resources to, it's best to max level them and then fuse them together with a succession arcana. If not, no big worries, there will always be more cards in the future.

>> No.12097817

>>12097775
Only if doing so won't cripple your team. Early game, you don't have many powerful cards, so what you level at the start is what you play with for a while. If you were to return two lvl40 cards back to lvl1 when you fuse them, would your team suffer? If you have nothing else to pick up the slack, evolve them now.

Either way, you won't have Aqua Knights for long.

>> No.12097823
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12097823

Whoever you are.


Thank you.

>> No.12097841

>>12097823
That's a good card to carry you through early game. AOEs are generally what you want for now. Hope you get a second one soon.

>> No.12097844

How do you get play times for game buildings besides upgrading them?

>> No.12097845

>>12097841
Can you explain why I would need "AOEs generally for now"?

Until now (always a lurker) I stopped playing the game at a casual rate and started sending AW/FAWs.

>> No.12097852

>>12097845
I believe the anon was suggesting AoE cards for your team to travel on the campaign map

>> No.12097853

>>12097845
I'm assuming you're a newer player or at least still doing campaign. AOEs are good to clear all campaign enemies usually with ease. They're not super useful if you're at the point of killing AWs yourself. Unless you max out a 30%/350% AOE card.

>> No.12097859

>>12097852
>>12097853

Oh.

Well I'm sorta... Um. Yeah I'm on 9-1.

>> No.12097864

>>12097859
Regardless, I had a 20%/350% card for a good chunk until I finally got better cards slowly.

>> No.12097967

Is there a real need to get Shaman/Medic as a starter or can I just get HR Rocket Punch and Aqua Knight?

>> No.12098018

Any active killers right now? Got about 20bp to send right now, but no killers it seems. Anybody want all my AWs for the next few hours should let add me.

6etb1

>> No.12098022

>>12097967

Rocket Punch and Aqua Knight are okay starters, but really just focus on getting something to HR/HSR if you can. Don't bother doing the campaign right now, just spam the even map until you've got a decent team of HRs or an SR/HSR. Once you get a single maxed attacker, even if it's not super good, you'll be 10000% more equipped to power throught he campaign. I recommend starting by spamming map 1-2 in the event map, and saving any mechanics you find. Those can be amalgamated into Androids, and you can either use them or send them to the goddess in your alliance for an SR healer that'll easily outclass any other healer easily available to ya.

>> No.12098028

>>12098022

How long do you have to do the goddess worship thing?

>> No.12098032

>>12098028

Well, your alliance has to sacrifice R cards to the goddess to get her to descend; when enough cards are given, you can claim the card. here's a little FAQ on it.

http://valkyriecrusade.wikia.com/wiki/Alliance

>> No.12098045

>>12098032
My alliance is currently on set #3, but i havn't been donating so i didn't get anything. Once i reach the minimal amount offered, will i still be able to get sets 1 and 2?

>> No.12098050

>>12098022
>Once you get a single maxed attacker, even if it's not super good, you'll be 10000% more equipped to power throught he campaign.
So I should just level two Rocket Punchers to max level and fuse them right?

>> No.12098052

>>12098050

Yup, don't forget to use the special Succession Arcana too. You'll need some medals to get that, but if you don't have it no need to stress. The important thing is to get them to max level before fusing, then level it to max again afterwards.

>> No.12098090

Is there any point in dueling for each set after you've got all 3 rewards in it?

>> No.12098091

So I messed up and evolved 3 Vending Machines without properly leveling them up first during my learning period. Should I bother with the fourth one I'm about to obtain or consider it a lost cause ? I have a self-buffer and another direct damage dealer SRs.

>> No.12098094

>>12098091

Don't sweat over it too much. Now that you've learned, you'll do better on the next event.

>> No.12098097

>>12098091
Evolving up to 2 stars without leveling doesn't make a large difference, since 5% of 5% of 5% (more or less) transfers to the final card. What's important is the transition to 3 and 4 stars.

>> No.12098102

>>12098091

yeah. It's not a huge issue, and vending machine will get replaced quickly anyway. go ahead and finish her off, though I honestly don't think she's worth it... unless you think she's lewd or something.

>> No.12098110

What does the
>New /jp/ alliance?
in the google docs stand for?

>> No.12098117

>>12098094
>>12098097
>>12098102
Yes she is really lewd. Well okay then I won't bother wasting slimes on her. I have only 3 maxed slimes anyway.

>> No.12098191

>>12097596
Unfortunately not. I had just started a few weeks after the event ended. Sadness. I hear many people aren't using her too, simply because they don't have enough URs to make up for losing the 5 SR team bonus.

>> No.12098207

>>12098191
I was only able to get one and I grinded the event the best I could. But just look out for some decent ice SR cards to go nicely with your two Fenrir's.

>> No.12098208

>>12098117
If you don't want to be wasteful with your resources, I'd suggest only getting your slimes to level 27. That's all they need to be when it comes to using them to max cards. The extra 3 levels are a waste of exp.

>> No.12098217

Being able to kill AWs but struggling with a pitiful 7 BP. I really feel stupid for having wasted jewels on refilling soldiers when I had just started about a month ago.

>> No.12098218

>>12098208
Ooh I didn't know that. Those last few levels take a whole lot of Ns finish too.
Do HNs give more xp than Ns to slimes? There was a bunch of them I was gathering for the achivement and I'm unsure of what to do with them.

>> No.12098225

>>12098218
I believe they give slightly more. If you're just using pure Ns to level slimes, 69 is the magic number (not including great successions) to go from a clean lvl 1 slime to lvl 27. I typically just fuse 70 anyway since I like to fuse 10 at a time regardless. So just fuse/sell your HNs, they're pretty much garbage as you can't even get medals out of them. Remember that each N card is worth 100 exp, so level your slimes accordingly.
>>12098217
Yeah, there are a lot of jewel baits. Good thing Nubee gives jewels out pretty frequently.

>> No.12098248 [DELETED] 

Welp, got my first Matrix summon and there's pretty much no one active in my comrades list.

>> No.12098256

>>12098248
That's why it's best to get comrades of multiple different timezones. I have at least one FAWK on at most times of the day I'm awake.

>> No.12098260
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Does this make up for the fact that I'm not getting enough Destroyers to make a HSR Ragnarok or is she useless because of that soldier count? I have a maxed Sophie and I intend to max Ragnarok when I get her.

>> No.12098261

>>12098191
SR force bonus is a measly 15% attack boost whereas a UR have a 50% boost in both attack and defense when maxed. Unless you lack the ability to max the UR, using it is almost always better

>> No.12098265

>>12098260
Scylla is better IMO until you get a team with multiple team buffers or a Lilim. Usually you'd only need a few procs, but if you run a debuffer with Scylla, you can probably kill most things.

>> No.12098276
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12098276

At long last, my first event AW.

>> No.12098299

>>12098276
Too bad she is pretty useless.

>> No.12098302

>>12098299
You have to start somewhere.

>> No.12098310
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>>12098265
Thank you.
I'm gonna run this team until I get some SR team buffers. The only ones I have right now are Sedna, Shaman and Brave, and they aren't that useful.

>> No.12098313

If I get two last army's
Is it better to have two separate
or have one, HUR?

>> No.12098328

>>12098313
Almost certainly separate unless you have an amazing light team already.
>>12098310
Yeah, team buffers that aren't 200% are pretty meh. If you could get one more SR debuffer, I'd replace your High Vampire or Sophie since 6 debuffs and a healer or two would make FAWs even die. Pretty much what this guy ran >>12096608. FAWs will still be too difficult until you get an HSR Scylla to max or something else.

>> No.12098338

>>12098328
Exactly what I intend to do.
I wouldn't replace Sophie since she's my main attacker (maxed) and I'm not maxing Scylla until I get another, but a second debuffer should be better than that High Vampire.

>> No.12098350

>>12098338
Ah, Sophie's maxed. Yeah High Vampire next replacement for sure.

>> No.12098447
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12098447

Did I not fuck this up? Two level 40s + Arcana Succession.

The stats still look subpar which is weird.

>> No.12098448

>>12098447
a) It's an R card.
b) It's not at maximum level yet.

>> No.12098472

>>12098447
>Two level 40s + Arcana Succession.
If you're sure you did this, then you're fine. You have to level it up again though cause what you're seeing is a level 1.

>> No.12098516

>>12098110
Back then /jp/ alliances doesn't have enough room for everyone so if there was enough interested someone would create a new one to put everyone in.

Now it doesn't really matter, people join whichever alliance they get invited.

>> No.12098533

>>12098516
Which most often sucks and is full of either inactive level 10 characters or Chinese 10k damage dealers.

>> No.12098610

Please stop fucking up the spreadsheet with some moronic sorting.

>> No.12098635
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It's gonna be another Titan, isn't it?

>> No.12098647

>>12098635
I bet it's going to be another Athena.

>> No.12098651

>>12098635
And what was that?

>> No.12098653

>>12098651
A miserable pile of 2000 medals.

>> No.12098667

>>12098635
At least Titan is cute.

>> No.12098676

>>12098653
At least it was actually a SR.

Question: which one increases the 75 cards hold limit, Card Limit or Deck Cost Limit?

>> No.12098680

Alright guys, got my 3rd Yggdrasil, level 3 Magic school, what's next?

>> No.12098685

>>12098676
Deck Cost increases your, well, deck cost, so it's the other one.

>> No.12098695

>>12098676
Card limit. You can buy the +5 10 times and you get a +15 increase from clearing 10-5 on the campaign map I think it was.

>> No.12098711

>>12098680
Save the medals for castle 10. Or, if that is too far ahead, invest in collection space and/or magic school 6.

>> No.12098716

>>12098695
Does the item appear in the present box after you buy it? I have bought one but my limit is still 75, maybe I should clean the box a bit till it appears.

>> No.12098718

>>12098635
What, I want free jewels too!

>> No.12098719

>>12098716
I think it is in "Items", special item tab.

>> No.12098724

>>12098719
It's empty. I will try selling all the cards till I see 5/4 date.

>> No.12098734

>>12098724
Click Menu > swipe to the right screen > Items > Special Items
You'll see all card limit related items there.

>> No.12098742

>>12098734
I feel like an idiot now, I thought it would be in the present box. Got it, thanks.

>> No.12098752

How do you gain progress points in the event map?

I'm at 3-2 right now and still on 0

>> No.12098756

>>12098752
Battles will give you progress points. If you've beaten bosses you should have at least a few thousand. Also, randomly advancing will give you some occasionally.

>> No.12098759

>>12098752
I'm guessing you just started the game? For the first 24 hours since you made your account, you have unlimited Vitality, meaning you also won't be able to earn any until the beginner's campaign event is over.

>> No.12098761

>>12098759
Oh that's the case.

>> No.12098767

>>12098032

My alliance is only about 1/3 of the way there. Should I help them out? I barely have any r cards since i only started out a few days ago.

>> No.12098770

>>12098752
Seems like new players can't gain any, my roommate wanted 100 for the R and couldn't get any either.
I think they block it for new players so you can't abuse infinite vitality to get progress rewards.

>> No.12098780

>>12098767
If you're not yet at the point where you have much Rs to spare, you can try farming for Enchanters and Mechanics to amalgamate into R Androids, and donate those. Later on when you hunt more FAWs you'll be getting Rs by the bunch.

>> No.12098785

>>12098780

I'm more worried that they won't get enough r cards donated and i'll waste the few cards i have. I'm close to the 500 jewels i'll need to get a badly needed workshop and don't want to spend any vit getting cards for android if i can.

>> No.12098793

>>12098785
Well, I wouldn't worry about donating for now in that case. Just focus on leveling up for now and soon enough you'll be able to donate daily. If anything, you can try asking your alliance how often it is they donate?

>> No.12098809

Is there a campaign map I can farm for Enchanters ? I have like 20 Mechanics from farming Cyber 1-2 ;_;

>> No.12098815

>>12098809
I think you can get them in 4-1 to 4-4 in the regular Chronicle maps.

>> No.12098849

What's the drop chance for SR's from normal level 200 AW's ?

>> No.12098881

>>12098849
I think it's 1~2% without ace?

>> No.12098910

>>12098881
I read 3% somewhere, but I don't have any confirmation. And apparently Aces double that chance?

>> No.12098912

AoE and field are insane this event, I feel like Matrix is totally making fun of me at this point.

>> No.12098915

>>12098910
3% would be way too much.

>> No.12098916

>>12098915
I don't know about that. It's all RNG anyway. Any low % could be the true value.

>> No.12098917

>>12098912
I agree. Matrix uses Ice Shard left and right compared to other FAW AoEs.

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>>12098910
It feels somewhere low one way or another, but high enough to obtain if you're dedicated enough to AW hunting. Got both of these today, you can see how far from one another.

>> No.12098930

>>12098921
I've seen AWs dropping their cards from 2 chests in a row, also >>12095357
And sometimes you don't get anything in 200 encounters.

>> No.12098935

>>12098921
This event especially has been nice to me about it. I've gotten over 12 Destroyers and plenty Matrices already.

>> No.12098950

>>12098935
Destroyer refused to give me a fourth card until earlier. 250 own kills and over 100 assists. Most of them are aced too.
Matrix, however, gave me 9 so far, from my modest sends and some send-backs from comrades.

>> No.12098957

>>12098950
To be fair, I have over 800 Destroyer victories (meaning only ones I ran into) right now. So yeah, I'm getting tons of SRs. Matrices however seemed to dislike me. Most people get more Matrices because those are sent more often than Destroyers of course.

>> No.12098963

>>12098957
I have 19 Destroyers with 646 kills, guess I'm extra lucky.

>> No.12098965

>>12098963
Destroyers are very generous. I was able to get quite a few other SRs from them as well!

>> No.12098973

>>12098957
Ah, that makes sense.
I have low Vit/BP so I can't encounter that many, but I'm satisfied with this.
>>12098963
Yes, you are. Tons of medals there.

>> No.12098983

>>12098973
You gotta get them somehow.

>> No.12098991

>>12098973
>I have low Vit/BP
Get that magic school lvl 3 and ygg trees with the free jewels!

>> No.12098994

>19 Destroyers with 646 kills
>4th card after 250 kills
>12 Destroyers for 800+ kills
I got 2 Destroyers after 283 kills.

I hate this game so fucking much.
So fucking much.
And all of you as well.

>> No.12099002

>>12098991
Yes, that's what I'm gonna do. I wasted most my jewels when I had no idea what I was doing as I only started 1 month ago. Gonna make a Magic School next week.
>>12098994
Previous event, I got 1 Nicola within 250 kills. And in Maid in Heaven, managed to send about 120 Elisabeths, 0 SRs.

>> No.12099003

>>12098994
I have 1 destroyer after 342 kills, you're lucky

>> No.12099009

>>12099002
>I got 1 Nicola within 250 kills
Shit, I didn't even care to hunt her and got 1 from assist.

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12099039

Oh. A fifth one just now.

>> No.12099160

>>12099039
Collecting rewards right now. Opened a box, got Destroyer, opened another, got Ns, next one had another Destroyer. Fastest one yet for me.

>> No.12099167

That feel when lvl56 and still can't kill witches that drop their cards
Also I got the vampire loli SR twice via friend points summon, is it luck or just meh?

There's a thing about the evolving mechanics that I don't get, do both need to be lvl 30 friendship?
Also do simes need that too or not?
Also I'm filled with radom R cards that are worthless, is there a jp guild with room?
I stopped playing often as I'm busy now but I'm still up for anything and log in at least once a day

>> No.12099179

>>12099167
I'm level 80 and still can't put a dent in AWs, totally reliant on killers. I spent the majority of the game just building my town and just recently started hunting AWs this event so i feel pretty far behind.

>There's a thing about the evolving mechanics that I don't get, do both need to be lvl 30 friendship?
No need to lvl 30 friendship cards, it will get reset anyways and the bonus doesn't transfer.
>Also do simes need that too or not?
Slimes only need to be at lvl 27, nothing more.
>Also I'm filled with radom R cards that are worthless
I would medal your R cards for now until you can reliably kill AWs yourself and get them at a much faster rate. The amount you contribute won't matter much, unless you're just trying to get the minimal contribution to unlock the card.

>> No.12099182

>>12099179
>it will get reset anyways
The higher friendship value and skill level from base cards transfers to the combined one.

>> No.12099206

>>12099179
K thanks
>>12099182
Oh shit so my cards are basically meh
Welp.

>> No.12099222

>>12099167
>Also I got the vampire loli SR twice via friend points summon, is it luck or just meh?
They added SR cards to friendship summons recently, but it's still somewhat rare. Some people get em frequently, others never see em.

>> No.12099260

I recently started about 3 days ago and my best/only card is a lvl 50 hr android. I think I can get enough points to get 5 vending machine girls. How should I use them to make the best card that I can make? I also have 3x snow witches that I can use, 2 slimes and about 8k friendship points.

>> No.12099265

>>12099260
>I think I can get enough points to get 5 vending machine girls.
You get 4 via points, and the 5th is from finishing the event map.

And as always if you want the bests stats possible, max level your cards before evolving, and when evolving, use an Arcana Succession each time you evolve. Don't worry TOO much about R cards as they become obsolete once you get SR cards that are actually endgame keepers.

>> No.12099273

>>12098090
Well, during slot events you can get slot rolls for duels, but aside from that no.

>>12098313
If you don't already have AoE buffers, keep her separate. If you do have AoE buffers, HUR her as the main advantage she has is a high soldier count.

>>12098881
>>12098910
>>12098915
It's 2.5% for an aced level 200 AW going by the numbers collected on the forums.

>> No.12099287

>>12099273
>It's 2.5% for an aced level 200 AW going by the numbers collected on the forums.
Interesting. I'm sure if we collected data for this event, the numbers would be much higher.

>> No.12099296

>>12099287
FAW having a higher drop chance than AW as they are a higher level.

>> No.12099299

>>12099260
I'd recommend evolving the first couple of stages of a 5-card evolution without arcana successions, slimes or levelling, simply because the amount of stats that carry over to the final 4 star card is tiny, like in the teens. Once you have a 2* Vending Machine, upgrade it and the two remaining Vending Machines to Lv.40, Evolve the 2* to 3* with arcana succession, raise the resulting 3* Vending Machine to Lv. 40 and then evolve once more with arcana succesion. In the end this will take four lv. 27 slimes, two arcana successions, and four arcana's blessings to get a Lv. 1 HR Vending Machine, which tops out at Lv. 50.

Ideally you'd use a method called 6-carding to get the best results from a 4 star card, but since you'll only ever get 5 copies of Vending Machine that is not possible.

>> No.12099443

>>12099296
I was referring to the regular level 200 AW.

>> No.12099460

>>12099443
No reason not to assume RNG is just in your favor this event, unless you've already collected many players drop logs.

>> No.12099543

I still have 2 hours left on my newbie vitality so I'm spamming event map, problem is, all of the killers in my friends list are asleep.

Anyone wanna help me out with the archwitches? Add 579qh

>> No.12099731

>>12099222

I've got 4 High Vampires and 4 Dragon Princesses, all from summons. Just recently got my 4th Princess a night ago.

I lol'd

>> No.12099781

Do you get a special building after clearing cybercity?

>> No.12099852

>>12099781
No. Haven't seen special buildings in a while.

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Here's me hoping you somehow still browse these threads and come back.

Come back!

>> No.12099922

>>12099543
The trick is going into the list and adding people yourself. If you wait for someone else to add you, you're in for a hell of a wait. In all the time I've been playing, I have received maybe five or six requests from here. The remaining comrades I all added myself.

The problem with the list is that it isn't easy to see who just started, and thus new players are often lost in the mass of existing ones.

>> No.12100134

>>12099922
Just go into the spreadsheet and sort IDs alphabetically.

>> No.12100286
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Yes.
YEEEEEEEES!

>> No.12100295
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I don't want to do this ;_;

Why does Nubee hate purple colour schemes so much? SR Rags is perfect already.

>> No.12100357

>>12100295
I actually like HSR Ragnarok. Maybe not that much more than her SR version, but I have nothing to complain about either.

>> No.12100387

Got a Ragnarok sitting in my sends with no one to kill it online, if you want to do it until it's gone in 10 minutes, add me: 66cw2 .

>> No.12100397

Back to 1 FAW every 10 killed AWs, I hate it. It feels like I'm just wasting BP.

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>>12100397
Well, at least I've got this.

>> No.12100448

Is there any reason to always finish off your own FAW?
I always do enough damage to ace them, flee and send to alliance, loyal senders and killers who send back.

>> No.12100512

>>12100448
There is no point in killing your own FAW unless you want your sharing senders to stop sending to you.

Sharing = more points and more drops.

>> No.12100513

>>12100448
More points for ranking, and that's it, I believe.

>> No.12100563

>>12100513
It's faster to finish and get to the next archwitch/vit move. The only reason why you wouldn't be backsending is if you have sends waiting that you know are going to be sniped by leechers who sit there refreshing the AW screen for 18 hours a day.

>> No.12100618

>>12100563
You mean rankers, right?

>> No.12100621

>>12100618
Nope. Not all rankers do that. Stop starting drama.
http://valkyriecrusade.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Fairingrey/Thoughts_5-6-14:_FAW_events_and_Ranking

>> No.12100624

>>12100618
As hard to believe as it is, most of the people in the top 100 are senders.

>> No.12100625

>>12100621
I'm not reading your blog post, here or elsewhere.

>> No.12100630

>>12100625
Look at Delmesh start drama again. What an emo faggot.

>> No.12100645

>>12100630
Post more Delmesh turd pictures, Seish. You're the only person autistic enough to actually draw new ones.

>> No.12100648

>>12100630
Fairingrey goes around calling people leechers yet Delmesh is the one starting drama?

>> No.12100664

>>12100648
Even better yet, he outright states about himself that he's one of the ``good guys''. That's pretty conceited.

>> No.12100682

>>12100645
LOL So Seish can apparently draw award winning art and pull 19mil daily. You're so fucking bright. Go take a shower

>> No.12100689

>>12100682
Shut up Delmesh, we all know its you drawing that artwork in a desperate cry for attention, trying to keep your name relevant.

>> No.12100690

>>12100682
What do you even mean, daily? He did it once.

>> No.12100693

>>12100690
My bad Ema did the second day.

>> No.12100696

>>12100689
I honestly have no response to this. You win my friend, you win.

>> No.12100708

>>12100624
This.
And often, they'll go around sending full HP FAW to people, which is pretty nice of them, and gets them lots of backsends. Heck, there's this one guy on my comrades list who spends 2BP per FAW to send out to 10 people.

I started sending out FAW at 50% HP this event, and I've been getting back so many sends. It's been pretty easy for me to maintain top 300 so far.

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>>12100690
A challenger appears.

**Lets all give a moment of silence for all the retard sperm lives that are going to be lost minutes after this image is viewed.

>> No.12100719

>>12100708
I have the same guy, he's awesome. I wish he'd be more clear about whether he's around or not though. Even when he's "100%off" he keeps sending and tapping my witches.

>> No.12100788

>>12100719
I'm marking myself as offline when I'm working, busy or just want to spend as little time possible on the game to let others know I won't be killing their AWs any time soon. I expect others do the same for similar reasons.

>> No.12100840

Would progressing through Chronicle/Event give me better chance of finding useful cards ? I'm just upgrading my kingdom and sending what AW/FAW I find from Cyber 1-2. This is quite unfun.

>> No.12100846

>>12100840
No.

>> No.12100921
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Is HSR Destroyer worth keeping ?

>> No.12100926

>>12100921
Very funny. The answer is "Yes, if you don't have an AoE card with higher proc chance" and "Yes if you don't have a 5/5 HSR AoE defense/attack team yet.

In all other cases, the answer is no.

>> No.12100933

>>12100719
I also have a habit of doing this. I usually won't sit around for a long time marked as off, but I'll usually throw it in when I've run out of BP and plan to get off shortly because I have a good amount of senders that rely on me to kill their FAWs or send it just to me to be nice. I'll also do it if I'm not sure how preoccupied I'm about to be. I just don't want to get ember'd and have an unfinished job without at least a fair warning first. So, if someone has off in their name and you have a different player you would like to help, go ahead.

Now I wonder what your opinion is of this ranking style, /jp/. I have at least half my comrades kept to, to say it straightly, "leechable" senders. They aren't /jp/s, I won't send FAWs to them and they kill their own AWs and they send me FAWs willingly. I don't spend a lot on the game, just about $40 usd, and as I've heard the player base described here before, "it's a jungle out there". My perspective is, if it helps me increase my own power and I can still afford to help my alliance, /jp/ comrades, and the handful of encountered players I couldn't help but end up loving, I may as well use this to help all the important people out even more.

In the end, I only drained them all and burned the bridges to get closer to... to you!

>> No.12100947

>>12100933
People who don't care about ranking, which is 3 million players minus 1000, just send to whoever is first in their list. So, if you happen to be there and happen to receive FAWs, why not take them? It's mostly a win-win deal.

>> No.12100975

>>12100933
>I won't send FAWs to them
I prioritise people who are trying to rank personally, and if there are some really good senders out there, I'll send back to them without question.
Not sending back anything at all is a bit mean. They won't rely on you to kill their FAW forever you know.

>> No.12100982

>>12100947
That's 3 million downloads. Rank 43,530 currently has 855 points, mostly just players who downloaded the game, played it for 2 hours, realized it was shit, and deleted it.

>> No.12100989

>>12100982
I just used that number for illustrative purposes. I'm still convinced that there are only 1000 or less people actually interested in ranking, since getting 1000 is so piss easy. I was 1000 three weeks after starting.

>> No.12101060

>>12100947
Glad you see it that way, whatever their reasoning, they are definitely happy to let witches be thrown to the wolves and quickly dealt with.

>>12100975
Yes, I also like trading with rankers. They have an advantage of absurd amounts of playtime.

As far as other senders stopping sending, it's often not until they've become FAW killers, as long as I've been active enough to cover all their FAW needs. Inevitably though, the time may come when the relationship is not as absolutely optimal as it could be, and it would be advantageous to manage and prune your comrades, if you wanted to play even more "callously".

I've really become much more relaxed on my non /jp/ senders anyway, though. Part of me just wants to be nice to the new comrades (although I truly know I don't have the resources for it in the long run), but it's also a lot of work if you wanted to optimize your list or a section of it. Keeping track of everyone's playtime, FAWs sent, AWs sent, how many killers does the FAW go to, do the killers kill the AW for me, and other variables. Once you have a high comrade limit, it's certainly tough to keep track of all of it accurately just in your mind.

>> No.12101108

>>12101060
When I was completely reliant on killers (before maid event), I absolutely loved whoever sent back to me, even if it had 10HP or I missed it. It meant a lot to me.

You don't have to go so far as to micromanage this stuff. You can just send back the odd FAW for them to poke. They want the better drops just as much as you do, and they'll appreciate it.

If I have the choice of sending to random killer (of which there are many) vs. some guy who fuels me for a few hundred thousand points a day, who would I likely send to?
Of course, I do send to everyone, even those guys who rarely send back to me, mainly because they've been on my comrade list for ages and killed stuff in the past for me. But I tend to send them less stuff and instead give more to rankers/senders who backsend.

>> No.12101152

It's funny how you guys brought up this topic, I just got into AW hunting this event and after sending a fuckton of AWs and the few FAWs i occasionally get, i've realized; why do killers help out AW senders at all? Can't they just do event world 1-2 for 2 vit, kill their own AW, and get the 2 chests instead of 1 plus all the points/damage to yourself? I mean, yes i know there's the social aspect of the game and all but if you're truly going for ranks and drops, isn't it more efficient on your bp and swords to get the AWs yourself?

After i thought about it, i became much more appreciative of AWKs i added, especially the ones that send back. Maybe they just sent it to me because i'm at the top of their last logged in list but it'd be nice to think that it's because i sorta helped out with the FAW i just sent. I still am totally reliant on them though since i haven't been able to get any cards to help me kill AWs on my own butI think what >>12101108 said is spot on.

Also, what's with all the drama around Delmesh? It's probably not my place as a lurker to bring this up, but he seems like a good guy. I just added him and so far he's been sending full hp FAWs constantly...

>> No.12101170

>>12101152
Hmm, thanks but it's probably not worth bringing it up. It's just a few outsiders that think they know how I play. I usually like to send my FAWs to weaker comrades first and then loose the second wave of excellent killers and snipers after I see someone is in it. I don't have that many /jp/s, and that's the reason I'm able to help them, my alliance, and rank at the same time. Quality over quantity, I guess if you think it's quality, ha.

>> No.12101195

>>12101152
My problem is that I rarely can send back FAWS as my BP are constantly 0 from killing some /jaypee/'s witch.

>> No.12101240

>>12101195
Well, I wouldn't worry about it much. You've already been sending to me. If at all, you're barely behind and not as much as I probably am with a /jp/ or two. I'm sure you'll do well to help everyone here you can, and as I said earlier, if I was going for strictly points and drops, I'd fill my list with less networked players.

>> No.12101330
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I need some fashion crusade advice, Yuki Onna's complete colour mismatch is really getting on my nerves. Which card would be a viable and aesthetically pleasing replacement for her?

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>>12101330
You certainly can't argue with Hiruko's looks. I still like Yuki and Diana isn't bad. Thanks for the fun team, I'm just too jealous of the Lilims.

>> No.12101381

>>12101359
I wish I had maxed my Hiruko, I would definitely use her if I did.

I like how 2x250% works so well for AoE girls though. Looking forward to the passion and cool ranking rewards so I can finally put the HUR AoE girls to good use.

>> No.12101400

>>12101381
You would still need both buffs proc to reach max damage, wouldn't you? With crit you just need one, what comes in handy if the other buffer gets killed early on.

>> No.12101407

>>12101381
After maxing both Therapys, Snow White, and Yukki all in the same day, I haven't maxed Hiruko either, shes just in for example.

I'm wondering, did you start your account early enough to get Tezcatlipoca? She might be too bright for the overall theme anyway, but I'd have no complaints.

>> No.12101414

Is making a 2 debuffer 2 healer and 1 attacker AW team a good investment of medals and slimes if i wanted to start trying to kill AWs myself?

>> No.12101419

>>12101414
If you have no other option. Critters/self buffers + buffers teams are still the best and will be for a long time.

>> No.12101421

>>12101407
Started playing during Tezcat's event, unfortunately. We'll probably never see a ranking reward like her again.

>> No.12101429

>>12101400
You do, but a single 250% would already put her at 700k+ damage a proc with high level element buildings and +10% element bonus I believe, which is pretty respectable for a tanky 20% unlimited proccer.

>> No.12101430

>>12101419
Yeah, maybe one day i'll get lucky and get some good critters or self buffers to drop. But in the meantime i want to try and kill AWs myself instead of having to completely rely on my comrades.

I actually have a 0* polaris and a non-amalgated Ragnarok but i can't survive long enough to kill the AW or the abilities just never proc and when they do, i get waved within the next few turns.

>> No.12101442

>>12101430
No. It's better to not kill AWs at all than use such team.
Your usual fight will take 40+ turns. You will get bored really quick. You will probably give up on killing them after 20-30 kills and will start sending them to comrades again.
Also you won't be able to become a real AW killer with such team. By the time you kill AW which was sent to you, it will be already sniped by 2-3 other players. You will be able to get ace only from your own AWs.

>I actually have a 0* polaris
What? Why would you want a debuff team if you have her? Get second Rag, max them, get your 2 healers and you will be able to 1bp AW with at least 80% chance.

>> No.12101444

>>12101429
Maxed Sophie/Ragnarok (~30k att with passives) with 200% buff deal 600-700k crit damage on non-advantage FAW. I doubt 350% AoE comes close to it with 250% buff. You would need 2.

>> No.12101453

>>12101442
Don't tell him to max anything when he can't kill AW yet and has no way to gather that many medals. At that point even maxing SR skills may be a challenge, and it takes priority over stats.

But yeah, there is no point in debuff team when he has Polaris and even Raggy.

>> No.12101454

>>12101444
I'm talking about UR AoE cards, not SR. UR AoE cards are 400% with 29999atk before passives. A single buff won't put them to cap of course, but an upgrade potion probably will.

>> No.12101460

>>12101454
Well, duh, if you have full UR/HUR team then you auto win anyway.

>> No.12101472

>>12101442
R-really? 80% 1bp sounds amazing, thanks for the advice. Should i evolve the rags into a HSR or keep them separate? I'm hoping to get an amalgated rag but for some reason Destroyer isn't dropping while i've gotten 3 Matrixes..

>>12101453
I actually have about 35k medals so hopefully that will be enough to max at least polaris and the 2 R healers. I've been pretty unlucky with drops from AW but ive gotten quite a few of those shitty SRs from normal summons.

>> No.12101482

>>12101472
Getting skill from level 1 to 10 on SR card requires around 5000 medals. 1k stat upgrade requires 3600 medals. It's not that easy, I have medaled over 60 SRs (2000 each) and countless Rs past week and my team is still only partially upgraded.

>> No.12101500

>>12101472
Definitely HSR her.
Actually you can try killing AW even now. Non-maxed Ragnarok should still do 200k+ dmg per crit with buff. So all you need is 4 crits. But since Rag has only 3 procs, you will need another damage dealing card.
At least you will see how close you're to actually killing AWs and what exactly your team lacks.

>> No.12101560

Is any one ranked 101~ 300 how many points do you need daily?

>> No.12101566

>>12101560
~150 or so is at ~3.9m daily to maintain.
Last I saw of 300, it was at ~3.4m daily.

Reminds me, does anyone know total points 300 is on? Anywhere close is fine too.

>> No.12101587

Matrix using AoE when she has 10k hp left, it's just hilarious.

>> No.12101589

>>12101566
360 is about 3 milion daily
but if you want to be in the high 300 like 314 you need about 3.5 or so

>> No.12101590
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>>12098994
Update.
Today I decided to spend few swords. I had 50 of them and I never used them before.
I still have only 2 Destroyers. No others SRs.

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>>12101590
Hahaha, the next fucking witch. This game is trolling me.

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>>12101590
>>12101600
Never give up.

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>>12101621
Wait, add 2.

>> No.12101690

>>12101600
For me it was the other way around
I was getting everything else except the destroyers I wanted, it's the desire sensor

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>>12100286
I'm back with a 2nd Matrix.

>>12098276

Awesome.

>> No.12102047

>>12102037
>>12102037
>>12102037

New thread.

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