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>>12087509
>Labyrinth of Touhou
Was the last one ever translated?

>>12087521
The first one has a full translation, and the second one is almost completely translated.

>>12087521
Kind of, the translation project over at Shrine Maiden seems to have stopped or some such. There hasn't been much development word on it for a while now. There is however a patch out that translates most of the essential things like spell, item, menu, and enemy names for the most point making for a much better experience. Coupled with pretty good documentation over at the Touhou Wiki site makes for a good experience.

This seems like a good place to post this unrelated question:

I'm interested in learning more about "hacking" games to extract scripts and text for translation purposes. I'm mostly looking for games that aren't currently translated that people think would be nice to have translated. I can work on the "hacking" part and maybe do some translations or two.
Are there any games in particular /jp/ would like to see worked on? I admit I can't guarantee a finished product, but I'd be happy to share what work I've done if I ever get bored of it.

>>12087643
Nightmare of Rebellion

What ever happened to that WC3 clone?

There are so many untranslated good doujin games out there that aren't very text heavy, so why translating such boring shit like GoS?
Is it only because it jumped on the ZUN-popularity-train by putting some 2hu sprites in it? Where is the love for proper games?

Youyou Kengeki Musou. This is what got me into the Ys series.

Is it just me or is GoS grindy as hell ? You get to some bosses like Cirno/Momiji that just decide to one-shot half your party on the first turn and it's kinda of ridiculous. Maybe you're supposed to have a specific party or something, but for that to work it'd involve even more grinding to get everyone to the same level.

>>12088398
levels do very little and you are not required to use party setups.

Satori Battle Network will never get released, right? ;_;

>>12088398
>Cirno/Momiji
whoa, those are supposed to be breather bosses. I don't know, use Reimu barriers or something.

>>12088216
Did the Chinese develop a new super weapon or are us filthy gaijins still stuck in that early version?
Not that it matters much anymore I guess, since the expansion is coming out either this Reitaisai or this Comiket.

What's the name of the game in OP's image?

>>12088666
Labyrinth of Touhou 2

>>12087643
Well, if you've never done it before, start with simple stuff first.
Marisa and Alice (old platformer) is relatively simple, even though it has a patch.
The original Gensokyo Tower Defense is also fairly simple.

>>12088689
Thanks.

Has anyone tried out Tank Rinnosuke in LoT2? His High Boosts, solid stats (except for mostly slightly below average affinities), and First Aid make him essentially a higher investment, higher return version of Meiling as far as I can tell. Not only that, but all of his other skills are pretty good support skills, particularly that Effective Formation Change skill which looks absolutely amazing for rapid nuke switching.

Only problem I see with it is that Rinnosuke probably won't really become a good tank until later into the game where Skill Points are plentiful enough to utilize said High Boosts. Kind of like how Byakuren doesn't actually get good until she's can purchase 4 or so Sutra skills. Once they get going though I imagine they are stupidly good.


I thought about looking at Momiji again as well, but I guess her Tengu Eye skill is still broken as per the Touhou Wiki site. Remilia looks like she's even better than she was in the first game due to a much cheaper cost on Curse of Vlad Tepes and skill arrangement, the only problem here is that she joins later into the game than I would have liked.

>>12087509
Tasofro's new game reminds me a lot of that Nitori shmup that came out at C85.

>>12087643
Maybe you could try the Nitori shmup. It has an appreciable amount of dialogue and events as well as a shit load of weapons, accessories, and crafting materials.
(C85) (同人ソフト) [オタク日和] やまの河童工房

>>12089959
Oh damn! That's Mikoma Sanagi's Nitori.

Taking a look at the files, I'm going to assume that everything is an embedded resource in the exe (and maybe the DLLs). You should be able to google for a resource viewer/extractor to view them... although I honestly have no idea how to change them in any way. I'd help out if I could, but that's honestly the extent of my knowledge here. Sorry.

>>12088398
Cirno/Momiji one-shotting you is their thing. You can be level 99 and it will still kill you. Figure out a way to deal with it.

>>12088465
Levels learn you spells and are still important otherwise.

>>12088216

Nah. Nightmare of Rebellion was easy to play/beat without a translation. I would be more interested in games that absolutely require a translation.

>>12090273
I want to understand the dialogue, smartiespants

Enjoyable game but the random Martin Luther speech in the BGM makes me cringe.

Also, is there an updated version?

>>12091875
1.0.5.1

>>12091883
What does it add? Can I update it without losing the save data?

>>12088470
I was going to post the same thing.
It has been like over a year, so, I think not.

>>12091883
Where? I don't see anything on their site.

>>12091875
This song is a fast song, isn't it? It moves right along, like you do. When you're feeling peppy.

The MLK speech is weird, but it is at least a very good speech. Some of the other stuff is just bizarre.

>>12092170
Good thing that you can turn it off.

Honestly, the rest of BGM are good.

>MFW i'm the only one who played FnG series.

Anybody else?

>>12092190
It'd be easier if it weren't for the DRM. That said, I'm still working my way through Chronicle

Someone needs to get working on a Translation for Gensou Shoujo Taisen. So far only E is translated, and im told the second one, P, is nothing but improvements.

I want MORE, /jp/. I need MORE.

>450 cost
Aw shit

>>12092329
Yeah, costs quickly get ridiculous.

The problem is that there's only a few units that are actually useful, and they're mostly the 1 cost/level ones. Cirno, Letty, and Wriggle are all great. Then you have Alice and Mystia, both of which are insanely OP.

Sanae Challenge Fusion

For a programming exercise, I wrote an unpacker to extract the art. So to make a translation patch would require writing a packer and having actual translations for it.

>>12092353
>I wrote an unpacker to extract the art
But did you find the dialogue?

Because that's not in the dxa files.

(If someone actually does translate it, I have a repacker already)

>>12092353
Though if there's a game I really want to make a translation patch for, it's Touhou Rhythm Carnival: Scarlet, even though there's not much to translate for it. If people would be down for it, I'd look into what it would take to edit it.

>>12092358
The dialogue is hardcoded into the executable, so it wouldn't be easy to edit.

I wish someone translated Maid Made Maze.

pls

>>12092362
Ah, so you did find it, at least.

It is editable, you just need to modify the assembly to allow for strings larger than the original buffer length.

>>12092364
Yes, someone should. I dumped the images on /jp/ when it first came out. There's only like 6 or so to translate.

>>12092369
I didn't say it wasn't possible, just that it wouldn't be easy to do. Modifying the length of the executable is dangerous as far as I know, since you break jump locations. Writing the unpacker was my first time dealing with raw assembly, so I'm not an expert on it.

And I'm not sure if I would do a translation patch for that game either. It was more an exercise for myself since it was a simple game. I would much rather do Rhythm Carnival! Scarlet.

>>12092369
care to upload them?, I'm willing to pay to someone for translating them.

>>12092381
Alright, I mostly just mentioned it since you said you did it as a programming exercise. I've looked at a lot of games, and it's actually very common to have dialogue in the executable. Labyrinth of Touhou (both of them) is another example that does this. So it's actually really important to have a tool that can handle that crap.

>Modifying the length of the executable is dangerous as far as I know, since you break jump locations.
Jumps are relative. So as long as you aren't adding new data to the middle of the exe or anything, it's fine. What you do is find a PE editor and tack on a new section to the end, e.g. an extra 500kb. That gives you plenty of room for new strings, none of which will ever be referenced by existing code because it's brand new.

That's what I did for ThLaby, so yes, this approach works.

>>12092386
http://www.mediafire.com/?yl0n4zkoo095hbz
From >>11316736. There might be some translations already in thread, but I can't be assed to figure anything out.

>>12092393
Ah, I hadn't thought about adding new data at the end. But how would you make the code refer to the new, translated strings? Or would you overwrite the old string?

>So it's actually really important to have a tool that can handle that crap.
What tool do you use?

>>12092413
Wrote it myself. Uses the Distorm python interface to disassemble the exe.
http://code.google.com/p/distorm/wiki/Python

>But how would you make the code refer to the new, translated strings? Or would you overwrite the old string?
You can overwrite the old string if it's short enough. But that's the trivial case. If the string doesn't fit in the original buffer, you just change the assembly.

So if you have something like

MOV DWORD PTR DS:[EAX*4+ECX+4],OFFSET THLabyrinth2_out.00CA9D04 ; ASCII "Natural"

You'd change it to something like

MOV DWORD PTR DS:[EAX*4+ECX+4],OFFSET THLabyrinth2_out.013432F4

Where 013432F4 is an address in the new section. And you add the string there, and have all the room you need. Then the next string you add goes after the end of that, etc.

>>12087643
I think the latest Lion Heart Game hasn't had a translation yet. Even a small thing like showing the weather text would be nice.

Lots a dialogue from tenshi and bosses and npcs I think anyway.

>>12092289
ircc they're waiting for the final patch for P to come out.

IE when the 3rd game is released.

If you're a SRW fan you should be able to play the games in moon anyhow.

Super Route a shit, Real Route all the way.

>>12092439
Ah, so editing the hard coded text isn't as bad as I thought it'd be, just tedious more than anything. Thank you very much anon.

>>12092442
I'm actually not that big on SRW, GST E was my first expieriance with it. Sure was fun, though, so I'm willing to give it a go again.

But, why do they have to wait for I to patch P? I'm not sure if that makes any sense...but, then, what do I know.

>>12087643
Do you know anything about modifying/viewing touhou game stage files?

>>12092536
ircc from the poosh thread

They don't want their patch to break when/if they update it before working on it.

stupid I know but still.

>>12088398
I never had to grind in GoS. You're doing something horribly wrong.

>>12088398
They were a block for me too, but I thought it was just cause I was terrible.

Still waiting on that third Gensou Shoujo Taisen game

>>12092596
You and me both, brother.

>>12092603

At least the existence of the demo helps a bit.

Also, too bad the translation team of the first game never got to doing the second one.

>>12092614
The anon from before said they needed to get the patch that comes out with the 3rd game before they could actually translate things. Dunno if that holds credence, but hey, hope springs eternal and all that.

Does anyone have the high quality Touhou Mother OST?

Somebody mention Super Marisa World/Land/etc. yet?

Who else Touhoumon in here?
I've been playing 1.8 on and off for a while now, just got through the 4th gym. I thought I'd pick up something at the Fighting dojo, and the Master promptly steamrolled my party.

Fuck everything takes forever to evolve.

>>12092329
This seems like a Widenyo clone... does it do anything differently from the original, just with TH characters?

>>12097366
It is a widenyo clone. I've never played Widenyo, but I believe it does not anything like the spell card attacks.
Every character has 2 attacks; a normal attack and a spell card attack. They have different power stats and range; typically with the spell attack being both more powerful and longer range. However the spell card attack drains 20% (I think) of the unit's max life, and with the ever present wind, you can't use them freely.

Beyond that I think it's the same. There's serious balance issues and a smaller cast, but it's reasonably entertaining. A decent enough time waster.

There's a partial translation patch somewhere on shrinemaiden as well.

>>12097366
Does Widenyo demand you to protect someone on your side to not lose the game?

Other than that, yeah it's a clone.

>>12102918
Basically, although it's a moving castle instead of Yukari~n.

Just going off wiki summaries; haven't played it.