/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Decent Kanae figure never.

>>12079959
It'll probably be a lot like Denkigai Matsuri, i.e. a smaller-scale Comiket but for licensed goods. Innocent Grey is making awesome stuff for it again, though, so I envy you for being there.

Post more photos of your haul if you have one.

>>12081245
>many Japs don't like Mizuki very much

Didn't know, Thanks.

>like Dies Irae to Paradise Lost.

I wouldn't mind one at all!

Continuing on AXL's Racial Merge - for me dialogue reads better than average, the pace is fair to kept events moving along. Do like support characters kept on being an involved part of process rather than tossed out half way. Haven't complete it so don't have a wholesome impression of it.

Also starting ninetail's Amatsukaze (天ツ風), hoping for some nice ninja actions (LOL card battles) and something a little different?

What's your fav eroge /jp/?

>>12081276
>Amatsukaze
Enjoy a long ass game
Though that will give you more ninja action that you'd want and more, it's probably the eroge with the most action.

It's an awesome game

Finished the main route of Rance 9.
It was pretty good, I like how it was basically a direct sequel of Rance 4, had to wait 20 years to see all the foreshadowing in Rance 4 finally focused on.
Though damn it's a testorenone heavy game, lots of male characters and unlike most of the time they aren't turned into a joke most of the time but actually get some good development.
The new heroines are great too, Rance himself kind of took a backstep and in the end it's mostly a Patton game but Patton is cool so that's okay.

Well now to finish the remaining routes and start either Ikusa Megami or Baldr Sky Zero 2

Finished Zero 2.

It was excellent, but strangely, it's not making me feel much of a withdrawal. Might be the late kind, I don't know.
Anyway, behind the writing that's hard to digest at times and the pacing that's often too slow or too fast and not very Baldr-like, it has a mighty good plot that doesn't leave many questions unanswered and satisfying developments that are more than enough to make one keep on reading, though some of them might require some suspension of disbelief.
What really captured my positive attention was how Marelle's route handled the important content of the previous routes, especially compared to how Sora's route did it. It seems like such a small thing, but I really liked how Ed wasn't the only one that actually did stuff to find out what's what, unlike Final Kou. While Ed and Marelle were out trying to figure out what they are and what Rasayana wants with them, Kou and Rain were gathering info about nanomachines and Church 22, Kei and Sakura made a plot against Le Partelle, Fran and Shizel went after WALRUS and the state government, Rena researched Neunzehn and Scavenger, etc. Nothing boringly convenient like what Kou had, just straightforward independent information gathering and exchange.
The gameplay improved since Zero 1, but it's still not something to write home about. It's satisfying with the right setup, but I'd rather play the Dives instead.

Finally, I'll just state that I'll never look at Neunzehn the same way again.

>>12081320
Eustia.

>>12081180
>The other difference was that I did not have Alicia open up the store at all with my first try.
Seriously? Her shop is so convenient, you can actually use Shully and Roka that way since you can buy the materials for their bullets there.
Also strengthening stuff and demons.

Did anyone find other mascot characters?
Tip says next one should be in mirror dungeon, but I cannot find book or character there.

>>12081368
You don't really need any of it on NG+ tho, since you already has best equipment and its already tempered.

My favorite eroge is School Days.
Kotonohasama is very cute！！

I've just started reading Hello, Lady and as I've heard it has a fixed route progression, I wanted to confirm what kind it is. Do you have to finish one heroine's route to unlock the next one for each heroine, or is it just Saku that is locked, or does it mean that you have to read bad or normal endings to unlock true ones, or is it something else?
I don't want to check walkthroughs in order not to spoil too much.

>>12081404
Tamao and Sorako unlock Eru and unlocks Saku.

>>12081320
Kamidori or sengoku rance.

Playing through Clannad at the moment. Translation is trash, and it's so boring at times I'm having trouble pushing through. SoL really isn't for me, I guess. If someone's not getting brutally murdered or taking it up the ass I find it kind of hard to keep my attention.

>>12081405
Thanks

>>12081415
There are so many things wrong with your post that I don't even know where to start.

>>12081419
>where to start
Don't. Report and ignore.

>>12081320
Sharnoth. I love all the other Steampunk games equally though.

>>12081320
Muv-luv alternative is my favorite.

>>12081320
Akatsuki no Goei's sequel (Tsumibukaki Shuumatsuron)

>>12081421
Yea I already epically trolled the thread yesterday, you can't do better then me.

>>12081320

IM0

>>12081320
Dies Irae, I love it.

>>12081613
How many Japanese did you need to play it?

>>12081622
Quite a bit, it's not as difficult as say, Muramasa but still a bit of a challenge to read through though it's damn rewarding. Here's some easier titles for when you become used to nihongo (ignore the elitist wording over each set of games).

>>12081633
I always heard DI is way harder than muramasa which used old kanji but otherwise it's readable

>>12081644
I imagine that it's really apples to oranges, for me Masada's prose was a bit easier than Muramasa's usage of old kanji (then again t may be because I enjoyed reading Dies Irae a bit more than Muramasa so lookups weren't as much of a chore to go through) , then again I've experienced odd chuuni prose before from reading F/SN (though it's really shit compared to Masada's stuff).

>>12081644
There's not really any such thing as an objective measure of difficulty. It depends entirely on what vocab and grammar you happen to have already been exposed to. If spend all your time reading high-level economics textbooks, you'll probably struggle reading a relatively "easy" fantasy novel just because the style and vocabulary is completely different. Extreme example, but you get my point.

>>12081613
It really pains me too that there's barely any merch for this besides those dakis. I'd love a Rusalka figure or plush or something.

So what was wrong with the clannad translation, didn't anyone here read it raw to tell the difference? Or is this just another case of lol elitism?

>>12081811
Well think about it this way, when an unprofessional translator takes a work and translates it you lose the prose and nuance of the text, same for professionals (though I've yet to see a pro VN company do any quality work). It's fine if you don't mind reading dry text that probably reads terribly (I'm counting for most cases). For example, MM's translation of F/SN is God-awful because their poor work paints Shirou as a sexist with the comment about "Ayako should be molested to remember her feminity" as an instance. VN's are just 100x more enjoyable to read when you know nihongo, also you can tell the real worth of a VN by how it's originally written rather than a bastardization done by a fellow neckbeard.

>>12081828
Wouldn't you lose that prose and nuance if you're unskilled at Japanese as well?

>>12081828
>MM's translation of F/SN is God-awful because their poor work paints Shirou as a sexist with the comment about "Ayako should be molested to remember her feminity"
What was the actual line? Haven't read FSN.

>>12081834
Why are you unskilled at Japanese?

>>12081845
why do you ask questions you already know the answer to

>>12081834
Well sure, but that's why you study and practice until you reach proficiency. There a lot of eroges that are rather simple to read anyway so you work your way up. If you make the time for it you're well rewarded by now being able to enjoy untranslated works and having the novelty of being able to now go to the nipp district of your city and barter for chickens.
How most translations go is that the text is machine translated and the translator makes sense of the resulting babble, which of course can be very divorced from an original line's intention or tone. For simpler titles it can pass but for the more difficult (and more rewarding titles) it just doesn't cut it.

>>12081845
>>12081845
I'm talking generally, I mean if you are unskilled at Japanese wouldn't that go over your head anyway? I don't mean "you" as in you or me.

>>12081839
The line pretty much translates to "Ayako shouldn't be out alone late at night, she is a girl after all", as you can see the intention behind that line is completely different from "Ayako should get molested and remember her femininity" (pretty much what Takajun for some reason translated it to).

>>12081856
After reading around 8 novels I was already good enough to notice a ton of mistakes in the Rewrite translation, and that's only from the voiced parts. You don't need to be good at all to benefit from reading something in it's original language.

>>12081849
Not the guy you're responding do but are you the guy that challenged Onso to the Japanese challenge? Did you win?

>>12081868
Sorry, I'm not that guy.

>>12081858
That's fucked up.

>>12081885
What makes it worse is that a fanbase rose off that terrible translation and for some reason think Takajun did a good job on it

>>12081633
I've honestly never seen Ayakashi recommended on here before. Anyone else feel like weighing in on it?

>>12081915
I've never played it myself, but I've seen it recommended in this thread from time to time.

>>12081269
I was just looking at the twitter hashtag for a bit and had their stream in the background, wasn't there.

They managed to run people from quite a few companies through the stream which was slightly interesting but not super exciting on that end, was definitely really for people who could go and buy stuff compared to the big marketing push of something like WonFes. Not that most of the exhibitors have the money for something like that anyways.

>>12081856
If you're unskilled in Japanese why would you be reading VNs in Japanese in the first place?

>>12082093
I like how you guys keep attacking me for posing a simple question.

Anyway I don't know, maybe for practice? Look at the people in threads like these, the vn general and the h-game general.

>>12082100
Attacking you? Don't you think you're over exaggerating a bit?

>>12082100
>I like how you guys keep attacking me for posing a simple question.
What.

>>12082105

>>12081845
Implied i was asking the question because I was unskilled in Japanese when I never even brought up my skill.

Anyway my question is still unanswered what exactly made the clannad translation so bad, I haven't read it raw or translated but someone brought it up yesterday in another thread and I thought someone here would know the specifics.

>>12082147
I wasn't questioning you, I was questioning your assumption that the person playing is unskilled. You would obviously start with easier to read titles before going to the ones that require a better understanding of the language to comprehend.
Trying to read Dies Irae as your first untranslated novel is just retarded.

>>12082157
Well the point he brought up seemed to be in general, when reading a translated work you'll miss the prose and my point was to some point unless you're a Japanese master you're bound to miss it too sometimes. Unless if you hit N2 level or something it's impossible.

>>12082171
You're still missing a fuckton less. It's almost like the difference between reading a novel with your eyes closed and open.

>>12082173
Not to defend translations but does that really apply to every translation ever done?

>>12082175
Even movie and book translations, that are translated by people with actual writing skill still miss some stuff, what makes you think VNs wouldn't?

>>12082175
There are a some that are decent (including maybe a couple that are actually better than the original in my opinion), but for the most part, they're practically unreadable.

>>12081269
I was there, posted some photos of what I got in the last thread. I took a few pictures of the waiting lines and booths too. Might get to posting them when I get home from work

>>12082182
>some are decent but they're practically unreadable
What.

>>12082171
You don't really have to be a nihongo expert to get things out of untranslated works that you wouldn't from translated ones. I'm not even talking about bad translations or complicated prose, there's just things that don't get conveyed in english, in bad cases your whole impression of a character can be ruined etc.
I'm not elitist about translations and I've translated things myself but reading something untranslated and reading the same thing translated is such a different experience even with a translation that has as little errors as possible.

>>12082180
So is that the reason people shit on the clannad translation?

>>12082190
I think people shit on it for actual errors/mistranslations. I haven't seen a comparison of lines and I didn't bother rereading it in english so I could be wrong though.

>>12082188
Learn to english. The 'they' was obviously referring to the whole pool of translations, while the first clause was only referring to a small subset.

>>12082190
It was done at bakabt, parts of after story are unedited and you can see how terrible the translation really is.

>>12082171
Even simple things like different pronouns, ways of speaking, etc are lost in translation. You don't exactly have to be a Japanese master to pick up that stuff. A translation is always going to be inferior to the original even if there are no errors, but most VN translations come with errors as well.

Finally finished BSZ 2.
Have to say that Marels route was damn great experience and now I feel very satisfied. All the buildup for it payed off, although it still lacked the impact like the Jihad moment of Dive2, well the reveal came pretty close though. Still my second favorite route in the Baldr series after Soras route. Started also somewhat liking the system in Zero but still isn't quite as fun as Dives system. Also liked how they handled Kou on Marel route too and his relationship with Ed he had, still can never look it the sameway after you learn the truth about Ed. Everything ending in huge drinking party also felt somewhat so fitting for the Zero series.

And now I'm off to play Ikusa Megami Memoria.

Are there any VNs about inflation? Dobson and shown me the light.

>>12082220
お嬢様がご機嫌ナナメ had quite a bit of inflation and deflation.

>>12082173
I'll have you know my braille is pretty damn good.

>>12081390
Go through the broken mirror and teleport to another dungeon. Beat the boss and go back to town to read the book. After that you can random encounter Black Eushully in the mine.

I'm now on Elven forest in chapter 4.
Anyone can help me how to pass this crystals?

>>12082310
You have to set all the 3 crystals into the same certain color, I think it was yellow or orange but I can't remember which it was

>>12082310
Turn all the other 3 crystals to yellow.

>>12082310
What do you need to do to start the forest? Missed it completely, got a couple of conversations related to it and that's about it.

By the way, what do you need to do to activate this block in chapter 9?

>>12082312
>>12082313
It worked. Many thanks.

Going through Monster Girl Quest again

I had only gotten to part 2 before every time I would fight a boss the game would crash. So with the newest patch, it should work and might as well start over

I thought I heard that there was a female protag mod for MGQ which turned Luka into a female? Or did someone just make up pictures?

>>12082318
To start the Elven forest scene, i think we just need to reach chapter 4 and then make the Goddess bard drop into 200 or below.
It'll trigger dream propercy of Elven village being attacked.

About chapter 9, sorry i haven't reaching that chapter yet.

>>12082318
Nevermind, already worked.

I wish I could get into all this fantasy stuff you guys read/play but somehow everything which doesn't have a setting which at least is based on the real world really puts me off. I dunno why.

>>12082325
>and then make the Goddess bard drop into 200 or below.
I missed it for one chapter, damn. I guess that's why little miss siscon didn't stay with the party, not that I ever used her because she was way underleveled.

>>12082330
If you had already got Lue, then it's likely she left because you didn't save her sister.

>>12082335
I did though, she was fine and dandy after killing the monster, then she went
>this is why I don't trust humans let me be a raging bitch about this despite you saving my sister

>>12082327
The IM world is based on the real one.

>>12082340
If you saved her sister, she won't rage about anything. Celica just tells her to stay behind and she will rejoin the party later. You got an H scene where her sister was mind broken right?

This took forever. I seriously hope there's no more of this 'Magic only' bullshit.

>>12082350
>You got an H scene where her sister was mind broken right?
>Mind broken

Looks delicious.

Not enough VN's about Racing. I thought a good chunk of otaku are into cars too?

>>12082379
I want VNs about bikes.

>>12082379
>>12082427
Niche subjects are one of the charming points of VN's. I've yet to see a VN about horse racing a la derby, but there might be a couple out there.

>>12082379
I wish, but the only ones I've seen are really shitty nukige.

>>12082379

Where do I get the eushully/extra character in ng+ in IMM?

>>12082444
Haven't played that one. I wonder how it handled race car culture.

>>12082452
You get Eushully-chan in the very beginning and then you have to search books for her. The first one is behind that mirror so once you finish it go back to it.

Can someone explain to me what 肉びら is I saw in in the sentence 劣った爪が肉びらに食い込み

>>12082358
It's funny how much easier Flauros is compared to these bosses.

>>12082458
Oh, thanks. I just got her, dunno why she didn't appeared in my other play... which mirror are you talking about?

>>12082489
The one you go inside into

One thing Rance has over IM is that each game doesn't have a crapload of bullshit add-ons, revisions, DLC what have you. Does Eushully actually find this a viable business method?

>>12082491
Oh, that one, thanks.

>>12082492
>Does Eushully actually find this a viable business method?
Obviously yes or else they wouldn't be doing it.

>>12082495
Okay. Better question does Eushully think consumers find this enjoyable?

>>12082499
Yes.

Do I have to have finished Baldr Sky in order to start Baldr Sky Zero?

>>12082379
Most motor racing fiction is kind of garbage in general. Usually it's better experienced through video games and the real thing on TV.

I mean generally the advantage you get with a VN is a combination of both visuals and long format text that wouldn't fit into a broadcast window or a comic but it's difficult to pull off a sufficient visual and a race broadcast is already anywhere from one to twenty four hours of heavy exposition because you don't exactly play by play driving down a road the entire time.

I think Cyber Formula is neat because it's a science fiction series full of all sorts of cool, well designed things you don't get to see on real cars but that entire way of thinking doesn't really exist in motorsport anymore.

So most of what you're going to get is carslut themed nukige >>12082439

>>12082513
Do you mean you dropped Baldr Sky or never played it? If you never played it I'd suggest playing it first. If it wasn't your thing you could always try Zero but there's a high chance you won't like it either.

>>12082519
>I think Cyber Formula is neat because it's a science fiction series full of all sorts of cool, well designed things you don't get to see on real cars but that entire way of thinking doesn't really exist in motorsport anymore.

I am now reminded of Cannon Ball from everyone's favorite Liar-Soft. Wouldn't be surprised if that's what you were referring to.

>>12082454
It's almost a literal knock off of the first segment of Initial D except with girls.

>>12082093
Well, there's an important thing to remember. For example, I think most people in this thread are able to understand Sakurai's prose, but I'm not sure how many would be able to decently translate it to english. It wouldn't be as bad as Ixrec's, I'm pretty sure of it, but I imagine most of the poetic style would be lost.

>>12082560
> It wouldn't be as bad as Ixrec's
You're overestimating my writing way too much. Those kids that make naruto fanfiction can write a better prose than me.

It's not even always easy to take a perfectly normal Japanese sentence and turn it into an English sentence without making it sound awkward as fuck, as in accurate in meaning, but "nobody would ever say that, ever."

>>12082560
Didn't Ixrec write fanfics or something like that?

It's probably better then most VNs I played this month.

>>12082572
Even I wouldn't put VN's on the level below fanfiction. That's way too harsh.

>>12082576
Did you see the pieces of shit that came out this month? Pretty pathetic for the industry if you ask me.

>>12082578
No, unless they're all crappy throwaway nukige I stand by my reason that it wouldn't reach to that level.

>>12082580
I want to see you defend the shit that came out this month, come on get on with it.

>>12082526
I read most of it, but it's been so long since I played it I have no recollection of what was going on and I don't feel like restarting.

>>12082569

I'd say it's the same for everyone. Translating needs experience and talent.

>>12082580
I'd think most writers in the industry were and/or are fan fiction writers. If you're confident enough for doujin publishing and games one would hope you're better than what's expected from online fanfiction but it's hardly a guarantee.

>>12082499
Do you really question whether getting new content for game is good thing?
Personally I enjoy playing Eushully appends. Quite sad there were none for MK.

>>12082607
When that "new content" equates to acquiring them through limited print run magazines, clearly there's something wrong here. I don't mind expansions at all, in fact I'm all for them but the way they're doing it just boggles the mind. What Eushully should've done is bundle appends of their respective games into a fandisc. That way, the chances of missing one or the other diminishes.

>>12082614
I don't think anyone here buys them, so from my point of view its just free bonus.
Also, they release everything as digital download versions after a while, and I got GnK2 full version (with 2.0 append) on DLSite for example. It has good ranking there and seems like people who missed game at release do buy it after re-release and appends help this stuff sell.

Can anyone tell me what's going on? I've been playing VNs for years. This doesn't, and has never happened with anything before. The Japanese language pack is installed + non-unicode language is set properly. Every other title is working fine.

Tried reinstalling and everything. It's 大図書館の羊飼い.

>>12082718
Even 大図書館の羊飼い～放課後しっぽデイズ～ is displaying text fine, but 大図書館の羊飼い isn't? What the fuck? Did a monkey code this?

>>12082718

>>12082718

Try setting the time format to Japanese. Some people need it.

>>12082728
*some games

>>12082728
>>12082727
It already is. August needs to bankrupt. See:
>>12082724

How do I go to the elf area in IMM? I just got a dream with that tall dude from the beginning attacking them but I don't know how to get to there.

>>12082735
That picture only shows the non-unicode language, is the time format also in Japanese? Because the original didn't work before I did that.

>>12082736
Read this >>12082325

>>12082736
Just do events in town, and Kaura, I think, will tell you location.

>>12082739
Yes the time format is in Japanese.

>>12082220
Every scene in 精液大量注入 series ends with inflation.

>>12082751
>Kaura
Kaola
Carla
Cowra

>>12081633
>(ignore the elitist wording over each set of games)
I called it. It took, what, two weeks for people to start posting that chart seriously and without any self awareness of how terrible posting it makes them?

Should I hand it over to her?

>>12082902
Forgot pic

>>12082902
If you don't want her to enjo kousai then yeah.

This.

>>12082909
The roman letters are burning my eyes, help.

>>12082801
>>12082739
>>12082735
It was an issue with mactype making the text appear all as squares.

It went through my mind, but I didn't assume it because the fandisc on the exact same fucking engine works flawlessly.

>>12082220
Ura Kyoushi.

>>12082896
How does it make people look terrible?

>>12082913
You are currently browsing trough english speaking image board dude. Even more - you just typed dosen of roman letters youself.

Im reading Ayakashibito and playing Tenbin no La DEA ~Ikusa Megami MEMORIA~. Both great titles so far.

I love Meti expressions.

>>12083031
今まで出てきた天使の中で一番可愛いのはメティ だ

>>12082972
I don't want to respark the shitstorm (yes this means I shouldn't have said anything to begin with but the I Told You So moment was too much to resist) so look it up on the archive.

>>12083031
Meti and Vare were my favorite characters that debut in this game

>>12081915
It's good and has high production values, didn't like the unavoidable NTR though.

>>12083031
Haven't played this, but I'm assuming people here don't like center girl huh.

>>12081915
Ayakashi fight scenes and OST are both fantastic. It is the VN that best emulates the anime feel imo.

>>12083070
wrong

>>12083031
Shuri looks kinda fat.

>>12083070
No, Shuri is main heroine, and quite adorable one.

>>12083070
She's okay if you mute her voice.

>>12083167
Aoyama Yukari?

Any idea what these two are? I've done pretty much everything I can think of and done so much hagure majin searching that already I'm sick of it.

>>12083198
Left one is in tower you can reach from 7th floor teleport.

I've got Ablies CG event where Celica saves him, but he didn't join party and his character is still not cleared in skills list. I've thought he will recover later, but I'm at last location already and nothing happened.
Does anyone know when and how exactly he is cleared?

>>12083261
In the last dungeon just before you reach the second part of the area

>>12083198
The right one is Rizaira. You need Lue in your party for the event in the last chapter.

>>12083248
Thanks. I hate myself for completely missing this. This might have been interesting if I wasn't ridiculously overpowered at this point.

>>12083287
I think that was actually a bug there. Because I had Irun profile without ever facing her and didn't have Rizaia profile even though I had had her for a very long time. I unlocked Rizaia profile after I got Irun so now I have 100% character information.

Now I'm just missing 4 h-scenes and probably some CG. I never got Alicia, innkeeper 1st, Rakuche rape and some else. Either Roka or Kachua. Anyone got the CGs in this picture? Also apparently missed the third CG from the event where you let your megami gauge go 0 (third CG in the list). Anyone managed to get that one?

>>12083248
How do you get in the tower? I've tried on my first playthough and couldn't get through and now I'm in chapter 5 or 6 (just saved lev and rifin) and still can't get past it.

>>12083261
What are the conditions for being able to save him?

>>12083344
First you kill 3 demons in separate dungeons (well, you must kill them to progress story anyway, except one with Lilim — make sure you kill him yourself), then just go there. To open boss door, you have to kill her guards in room above, you get there via teleports around feather.

>>12083363
Its still unclear. To be 100% safe:
1. Save everyone. You should not get any rape scenes at all.
2. Do all red faction quests, get 21+ red before getting Abiles.
3. Finish Alice shop events
4. Save elf sister.
5. Pick all memories in Abiles dungeon
6. Destroy Abiles magical stone before fight.

>>12083370
>you have to kill her guards in room above, you get there via teleports around feather.
Fucking great demons, they were harder than the actual boss.

I just finished Planetarian.

Not feeling so great.

>>12083330
Those ones are all Kachua's CGs.

How bad of an idea is it to read Rance 9 without reading much of the previous parts of it? I could never motivate myself to go all the way back to those decade old games and run through it so I could enjoy the series. Rance doesn't seem particularly plot heavy, though it's just an impression.

>>12083381
I enjoyed it and I only read Sengoku Rance and Rance Quest. They seem to explain most of the stuff you need to know to enjoy it. Though you would probably enjoy it more if you read the previous games.

What are the characters you can get on NG+ aside eushully and Ablies?

Also where do I get the items to fight the second time the lighting hagure

>>12081349
If you still keep your savedata, could you upload it somewhere? It'd be nice to start with the weapons properly upgraded.

http://pastebin.com/gf6DzNmc

Some of my findings of events and whatnot in IMM so far. Currently on my third playthrough, going to see how the factions influence different endings.

>>12083330
Kachua's CGs come from an event at the mines where she services her army.
Rinsha's first probably needs her events and Yorma's events.

Is Demonion worth a try? Can't remember if somebody discussed the first one here and now a sequel popped out.

>>12083424
First one was great for nukige. Second got much less interesting protag as Ive heard, but I'm still clearing NG+ memoria, so didn't play it myself yet.

>>12083384
>>12083381
If you can read moon then seriously play VI. It's the best game in the series.

>>12083370
I've actually just got there. Does it matter what you ask of her?

>>12083477
ask for her power

this damn puzzle drives me crazy

>>12083525
I gave up on it. It's damn impossible since you can't grab them from upwards or they get stuck if they're in a corner.

>>12083531
ok just did it

>>12083538
How?

Did anyone find blue key?
I've got only green and gold and its third playthrough already, killed most of majins and eushullies.

>>12083547
It's in 東館B5F

>>12083542

>>12083553

>>12083555

>>12083557
this should enough to see how I did it
btw. where did you get the gold key, I know that this key is in カドラ廃坑B7F but I haven't seen it

>>12083548
Are you sure? There's gold key in that dungeon, and I'm sure I've cleaned all boxes there.

>>12083561
according to a few posts here and there it should be
I also cleared all boxes there

>>12083561
One key is in オリヴドの宮B6F
Another is in 東館B5F
The last one is a drop from the hagure majin ムールムール (Extra dungeon)

>>12083565
how do i get there?

>>12083568
It's supposed to open on the second playthrough. I haven't gotten there yet

>>12083569
Ah, okay. It's because I'm on my 2nd play too and can't enter in that bottom right portal that always claims they are too strong for me

>>12083565
>>12083568
that's probably the dungeon where you have to assemble all mascots and unlock the closed part in the last dungeon *can't remember the name of the castle but there was a closed door and you get the key on the 2nd playthrough*

>>12083553
>>12083555
>>12083557
>>12083559
Thanks, it worked.

>>12083568
It's in the last dungeon.

>>12083590
How do you access that part of the floor? I'm currently in that dungeon.

>>12083617
Get all the books for Eushully-chan. You can see the hints on the locations of the books in the shop (? mark).

is Milles Knight of anal Tyranny any good?

>>12083627
NG+ only then? Shame, Valefor was interested in the treasure.

>>12083638
yes ng+ only

>>12083638
Yeah it's for NG+. Valefar is interested because the EX dungeon is all about what really happened to her.

does someone the conditions for roka ending

>>12083645
Did the demons rape her or something?

>>12083661
There's only one ending AFAIK.

>>12083775
are you sure? ^^

>>12083775
There are four.

>>12083796
mind to tell us how you got Kachua's ending?

>>12083817
+ roka

>>12083779
How do you get this one?

>>12081901
>and for some reason
Obviously the reason is that they have nothing to compare it to.

>>12081849
>How most translations go is that the text is machine translated and the translator makes sense of the resulting babble, which of course can be very divorced from an original line's intention or tone.
Got any source for that? Because honestly, I don't think anyone would spend so much time and effort on something like that rather than, you know, translating text by themselves.

>>12083860
>Got any source for that?
No one does because that's bullshit. Machine translators are not even close to what he thinks they are.

>>12083817
>>12083819
Kachua I think I just did all the quests for Rudoon's side. Roka's, the gray houses had the highest number and I saw all the gang bang/rape events.

Which ending is canon? Was Sarin even there in old version?

>>12083895
canon is the scene where saria and syuri are going back via boat
the other 3 endings are the if-routes which were added into the game

>>12083891
ty I'll try it after I finished Abeloos Ending
btw. any idea how to get the normal h-scenes with levia *not the rape ones*

>>12083936
you get normally after the rape parts where you "clean" her just doing the events, dunno if there's still that scene if refin holds his ground

>>12083936
What >>12083943 said. Revia won't get raped if Lefin holds his ground and you won't get any H scene with her afterwards.

Are there sequel hooks in Memoria.
Like, is Celica's shadow ever brought up?

>>12083943
>>12083951
has the rape scene any influence on Kachua or Roka's ending?

>>12083953
The only hook that I noticed in the entire game was that Rewinia is split in two factions.

Maybe you can count other information like the other maids, miko and astrea giving power to him or whatever, but they're minor in my opinion

Eushully have just announced second append for Memoria. It seems that it will add full voice acting for Celica.

>>12083996
I was planning on starting Memoria soon but if that's true I will just wait for that and play Baldr Sky Zero 2 instead

>>12083996
Oh damn I fucking love voiced protagonists.

Finished Baldr Force.
The gameplay took some time to get used to(specially the movement, I hope it's different in Sky), but after that it was surprisingly fun. I found the best weapons for my preferred playstyle really early on, so I ended up only unlocking about half of them though. I also wish it had a very hard option, because other than some bosses it was a little easy.
I really enjoyed the way they presented the routes, with the first 2 exploring the revenge issue, then going down the rabbit hole with the next 2 and the mind controlling chip, with the final 2 being about the brain project and leviathan.
Overall it managed to be really entertaining, overcoming the issue of being a really old game with crappy production values.

>>12083996
Source?

I liked the demo. Music was great. Ryukishi07 didn't draw most of it so the people didn't look like potatoes. Story was nothing spectacular (past timeline was more interesting than the present one) but I thought it was fun. Some mini games here and there to ease up the monotony. Overall, it was enjoyable.

>>12083953
It apparently shows up in IM2 so if they ever remake that which I think is possible since they called this their "first remake".

>>12084081
it's also possible that the other remake is genrin or some other of their "older" games

>>12084094
I'd like a remake of genrin1+2 in the same game where the choices during the run of the first affect the second.

Damn, Kanasuke manages to be the best even outside her story.

>>12084094
>>12084097
I think it would make more sense since they turned IM1 into episode 5 that they then turn IM2 into episode 6 rather than going back and remaking 2 and 3 but we'll see.

>>12084097
GnK2 is great game, this new writer should stay fucking away from it.

Not like I didn't like Memoria, but story and writing overall is much weaker compared to Zero or GnK2.

>>12084148
I liked how light-hearted it was most of the time, IM1 didn't have much plot and it shows, but it was a fun read the whole way.

I miss fishing so much though, so so much, though that's gameplay.

is there anyone else who is reading レーシャル・マージ ? its seriously great as a moege, i didnt think it'd be this good.its not at Daitoshokan or Clover Days level but definitely worth of trying as "moege". Eruru (slave girl) and Meruru (Blind girl) are my favorite ones, though other heroines also pretty charming too.

what's the best place to grind levels? I'm currently 9x and wondering how much do I need to do the harder bosses such as eushully books and maru maru

Right now i'm doing narcissu 1+2

;-;

>>12084808
My average was 9x when I killed the last boss of the Ex dungeon. I used all the level up items on Celica though so I had him 12x. Leveling seems so slow I never really bothered with it beyond trying to face all the hagure majin.

>>12084853
Oh, okay then. I'm trying to beat the hagure majins, but it's being such a pain finding them, just spammed a hundred battles without one encounter

>>12084866
How many did you face so far?

I only ever managed to face 4 battle only majin, Rizaira, Baldiel (the lightning angel) twice and Maru Maru (once, didn't fight). I did tons of searching after those and never got any others. Majin category shows 3 missing for me.

>>12084886
I got the the weaker lvl 115, then Rizaira, Baldiel and found maru maru once in my first playthough when I was 40something

>>12084886
7 normal hagure encounters last one is lvl 165 +
murmur, lizaira, baldiel(x2) and mascots (execpt 1)

We might start having to send the Ikusa Megami kiddies to /vg/ soon if this keeps up.

I'm really hoping for IM2, this time they gave us a good mage

>>12084916
Agreed.

>>12084917
I still haven't started memoria, but Nabelius was always pretty good.

Am I supposed to take Stein's Gate seriously? So far, it just seems really stupid in how it whips between silly and serious every three lines

>>12084945
Steins;Gate is as real and serious as it gets. http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/diet-mother-can-lead-alterations-her-child%E2%80%99s-dna

I just finished Phenomeno, it was fucking great. The art and music were both awesome, and the story was pretty creepy.

What horror VNs do you guys like? Iknow of the obvious Saya no Uta, Higurashi, and others, but there's gotta be other good obscure stuff out there, no?

>>12084808
You can grind dragon in volcano map — let him attack you before his cave and he will keep attacking you every 3 seconds if you stand on right spot. He nets 1.6k exp for each character for full party if you equip x2 marwin rings, or 6.6k for single member.
Another good place is 150-lev dungeon which can be accessed from portal room, 1-2k exp per char.

Still didn't do MurMur, seems like this fucker appears only once as hagure majin. Do you really need to beat all eushully books to get him? He doesn't have "only second playthrough" hint unlike eushullys, which means he should be accessible from first play.

>>12084866
Keep in mind hagure majins here appear only in B1-B16 mine maps. Also, resetting Goddes gauge to 400 helped increasing rates for me, I've finished off last 3 majins in like hour grinding on B11.

>>12084945
Are you actually reading the English translation?
I'm the one who wants to ask if I'm supposed to take you seriously.

Currently i'm trying to save Elf sister.
Anyone can tell me where is 東館B6F dungeon?
The path on 7BF blocked by Princess Latina, should I kill her first?

>>12085146
Memoria is quite linear. It will tell you when and how to get into Abiless' dungeon, just keep doing story events.

Sayonara wo Oshiete, Subahibi (parts of it, anyway), Gore Screaming Show, Innocent Grey stuff, Chunsoft stuff. I don't play horror games all that often, so maybe other people can give you some more obscure examples. I know there are a lot of doujin ones but I can't comment on those.

>>12085161
Meant to quote >>12085103

>>12085151
Alright, thanks.

>>12084866
Got all of them. Just let Lue learn the skill to increase the hagure encounter rate and put her in your party. Stand at a healing point and let the game run itself. Took about half an hour. I did it on B3F (NG+).

>>12085171
Oh fuck, I feel like retard for not noticing this skill of Ru.

>>12085171
How did you do MurMur? He doesn't come as hagure majin no matter what after first encounter with him.

>>12085195
You get to fight him again in the EX dungeon.

>>12085171
run by itself?

>>12085161
Is there any word on the progress of the Subahibi patch? I check their page today and it seems to be coming decently but I don't know how recently they updated.

>>12085250
Go away EOP

>IMM

So is this the true end where he saves him or not?

>>12085250
>>12073883

>>12085263
Why the fuck did I forget that was there? It appears I need to go to sleep.

>>12085245
A cheap trick people used for grinding in Verita. Get an auto key presser like スズメ蜂 and off you go.

I was about to open Alisia shop.
What kind of items do I need to open the shops? Where I can get it?

>>12085340
Read fucking quest description, everything is stated there.

Uh, the pre order scenarios for the PS3 and vita versions of kono sora are different, please tell me they are going to recompile the game with these so I don't have to pre order the same game twice.

WHERE
IS
KOIKEN
SAINEN

Does Baldr Sky Zero have a bunch of bugs or something? Every time I load a game I get messed up backgrounds for a bit.

>>12084018
Lately I have been interested in Force but I am bit afraid it will ruin my Baldr mood because I have already done Sky. Anyway Sky is great besides gameplay being utterly crap sometimes.

>>12085454
Thats what you get when playing games in wrong order.

>>12085454
>Anyway Sky is great besides gameplay being utterly crap sometimes
The gameplay is great

>>12085476
Get what?

Where do I find this this third guy, in the same place as Maru Maru in the Ex dung? I've been fighting for about a hour and nothing.

>>12085503
Stop looking. The last two both are in the Ex dungeon.

>>12085515
Thanks.

>Princess Latina
>Hagure majin Ratinneru
>Old goddess Latinu
Have any two of them ever appeared in the same time in the same place? I have a theory that they are the same character.

What is easier to read between typical nukige and typical moege?

Holy shit, those mobs in the ex dungeon are fucking op.

>>12085734
I'm not sure what a typical nukige would be as they can vary quite a bit. Moege are probably a better bet, as they are generally not plot heavy/filled with narrative descriptive text.

>>12085734
Nukige by Norn are pretty plot simple for a typical nukige. Where some of Lilith's nukige can be quite plot heavy.

What the hell, Shuka forces tear through my army like it's nothing. Suddenly the game expects me to have high-level units even though you barely get invaded in the first two chapters (which means no opportunity to level them up). I'd like to throw money at the problem but I never have any so I guess that's that.

>>12085970
Demonion is game you have to replay several times to finish. It should let you take some of units into NG+, so you gradually build up your forces.

>>12085970
>(which means no opportunity to level them up)
You can't do mock battles like in the trial?

>>12085977
If I remember correctly for the first game you could actually finish in one playthrough but you basically have to cheat because you need to invade every turn and train the heroines.

>>12085854

Thanks and this is the new akb stuff? I see they retreat back to safety.

This is just so fucking grim to read.

>>12085983
Mock battles are not very useful for training up many units, they are mostly there to get treasure you missed on your first run through the dungeon. And I don't think newgame+ is an option right now.

>>12086143
Are those body parts for sale?

>>12086233
Yep, both from her little brother and herself, she even offers sexual services where you can take off the camera so she can't see what you are doing, as she's mostly blind.

>>12086239
Oh.

>>12086244
It's not a big problem, she has a brain illness and is dying soon anyway.

Currently playing Grisaia No Kajitsu after hearing news of the upcoming anime. Been playing for 6 hours straight and i'm not getting any choices. But the humour is good and i'm loving the characters (especially Michiru and Yumiko) so i am gonna keep playing tomorrow.

>>12086248
Oh, that's better. I guess I'll play Sky before Memoria in that case.

>>12086248
And yet her brain is still for up for sale.

>>12086257
The illness doesn't affect the taste, so it doesn't matter.

>>12086257
That's her brother's.

>>12086257
The illness actually makes the brain more valuable.

>>12086143
which game is it

>>12086654
BSZ2.

恋剣乙女 ～再燃（リヴァイブ）～ デュオロジ is finally out. thank god

>>12086249
Same here, I was wondering where the hell are the choices.

What is it with peasants and choices?

>>12086877
They want to feel like they're playing a game or doing something interactive rather than reading a novel.
Because novels are boring.

>>12086869
>>>12086249
No choices for you.

Might be a better idea to go away and watch more epic anime.

>>12086877
They probably have ADHD or something, since they can't do something as easy as learning Japanese.

>>12086869
You get to choose which girl you fuck. Isn't that enough?

>>12086934
Yes. Plenty enough, but I was just wondering what happened to choices.

>>12086940
Poof.

>>12086892
This, though for me I like the best of both worlds.

>>12086963

Then you're into the wrong medium.

>>12084310
im playing it and having fun so far, im still at common route though. Eruru is my favorite.

>>12087023
What the actual fuck? Choices (or some form of interactivity) have been a major part of eroge since the beginning. Granted they seem to be receiving less emphasis in recent eroge, but that doesn't mean someone is "into the wrong medium" or an EOP for liking choices.

>>12087424
its just an excuse for chasing EOPs away. You can complain as much as you want with non-translated games about choices as much as you want.

>>12087424
its just an excuse for chasing EOPs away. You can complain as much as you want with non-translated games about choices.

>>12087424
On the note of choices in recent games, Alia's Carnival actually pleased me with how the choices weren't straight "Please choose which one of the X heroines you want to rub your penis to." and had like actual flags for the later choices appearing or not.

>>12087424
I'd like choices more if common routes were different. After the first route, starting the second is fucing boring because too much skipping, instead, I'd like if common routes diverged more between heroines so I could remember what the heroines are like in the first place.

>>12087424
i'd also like choices if they appeared at important events,but instead of it they are just making like " i guess i will sleep early > x route,i guess i will read a little book before i sleep > y route" seriously what the fuck. i cant really accept that a 15 min book reading which doesnt have any role at story changes the entire fate of mc's. Even the choosing heroine icon thing is better than this. They should think a little harder about the route split points.

>>12087496
Little things can and do change your life. For example, if a certain teacher in high school hadn't talked about a certain career patch in class, my whole life would be completely different.

>>12087496
The worst part is when the difference between those is just a phone call 10 minutes later which the MC should have been able to hear even in the first option. Fucking lazy piece of shit.

>>12087510
While this is true, i cant really understand how a 15 min book reading changes the mc's feeling. i mean if he sleeps early he is in love with X, and if he doesnt sleep early he is in love with Y? seriously? i guess that was a pretty deep book.

>>12087424
Unless a game has a plethora of bad endings or is a mystery or something, there is really no need for them to have a bunch of choices. All you're doing is determining which route you're going on. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with a game having a lot of choices, but saying it doesn't have very many as though it is some kind of negative is just silly.

>>12087424
>What the actual fuck?

If he doesn't like novels, VNs are pretty much the wrong medium of choice for him. I don't even know why this should be a matter of discussion.

>>12085421
Yes. It's buggy as fuck. Apparently Zero 2 fixes them, though.

>>12085476
>wrong order
I played sky first and I'm playing through Zero now. S-Should I have played Force first?

>>12087745
Sky is pretty much unrelated to Force. Though it will be harder to play Force after Sky because it's an older game

Really advanced eroge have furigana for kana.

>>12087793
The fuck is with wrong with that text box?

>>12087816

I think it's the crack.

http://www.getchu.com/pc/salesranking201404.html
lol at Cutie Bullet still selling

縦書き in VNs is pretentious.

They need to stop.

>>12087926
I suppose you find children's manga pretentious as well?

>>12087926
Your "left-to-right writing" insults Jews, you need to stop.

>>12087023
No. I'm in the correct medium. Contain your autism.

IMSC☆M will be all ages. That was pretty much expected though.

Why aren't there more strategy VNs where you have to conquer the world?

There's only a handful of them that I know of.

>>12087983
Probably requires hiring programmers/game designers that have more skill than simply getting text/cg/etc to display.

>>12087983
Because there are too many high school VNs

>>12087983
http://vndb.org/g41 ifeel like youre understating how many there are

were you talking about translated ones????

>IMM ending

Did Eushully already stated which events will count as cannon in the possible sequel(remake) (i.e Albirisu forgiveness, val, etc)?

>>12088012
I don't think Turn Based Strategy necessarily means conquering the world, friend.

>>12088017
Probably same as original (normal Shuri+Saria end), plus its only ending that has full epilogue for all characters.

>>12088022
lol what a fucking dweeb

also just from glancing like 7 of those have that very specific criteria you little asinine bitch

>>12088012
He was turning a question into a statement so that autistic people would be compelled to correct him and thus spoonfeed him the answers that he wanted.

>>12088025
Yeah, but didn't they added Val and Albirisu things I mentioned specific for Memoria? I know the other endings won't happen but those they added seems like the obvious choice

>>12088034
Umm, if you save Abiles, you get his own ending, which is not same as ending with epilogue.
As for Val, usually EX stuff is not canon, and its quite obvious they exceeded usual powerlevels there.

I want to befriend those cute dancer girls but this motherfucker suddenly appeared to stop me. There is a special trick to defeat him or I need to load a previous save and max out my current level cap?

test

>>12088164
That fucker was quite tough.
Stock up on restoration potions, esp that blood drop potion which revives party member, unlock revive spells for shuri, grind a bit and you will manage to get him.
Also, put Shuri behind Kaura, usually they attack front row first.

>>12088164
Have your tank in the front and others in back row. Use defend when the boss is about to hit you. Use Celica's skill that cancels enemy attacks if needed. See if you have any offensive or defensive items. Levels don't make as much difference as you'd think and grinding levels takes a long, long time. You really don't want to grind there until your megami gauge goes to 0 because you'll stop gaining exp and items.

Expected mink's tradition of nukige for potential hilarious gangbang party, instead got a string of sadistic short rape-before-killing that you can't even fap about! Well, I guess it is a little different to their usual to celebrate their 10 year anniversary. Would be a much better release if they made it full length like normal VN as they already set it up as if it were.

>>12088257
Which side is S there? Protag or heroines?

>>12088264
The postman is the rapist.

>>12088257
I'm still waiting for the torrent.

>>12088284
Isn't it out already in nyaa?

>>12088287
yeah I don't know what that guy is on it's been out for a day

>>12088284
Waiting for something that's already out? For at least a day.

i dont even get why anyone would put up with this german bitch in majikoi but w/e. i just know now that the dere part of this obnoxious shit will feel forced and i will hate having to play through her route to unlock other ones.

>>12088293
And then next your are going to tell us that you are playing it in English.

>>12088297
There is literally nothing wrong with playing visual novels in English.

>>12088299
I hope your statement doesn't open a can of worms like it normally does.

>>12088297
Well, in a sense, playing it in Japanese is worse, since you can't just come up with excuses like "there's not much translated vns".

>>12088299
I agree. It's not like all eroge are works of art that need to be preserved in their original language.

>>12088297
what am I alone in this. like im actually honestly annoyed by this character. also no whats even the point of playing a uncompleted translation

>>12088321
> ITH
> Japanese filename w/out japanese locale
> mspaint for screenshots
This is how plebs stink.

>>12088293
>>12088321
If you want to talk about Majikoi and have a "decent" discussion about it go make a thread on /a/

>>12088328
>mspaint for screenshots
What's wrong with that?

>>12088321
This has to be bait.
I don't mind people using ITH or TA, since it's none of my business, but you don't have to go to the lengths of showing them here on purpose.

How are you guys even capable of falling for such obvious trolling? Just report and ignore.
People like you are as much of a problem as the trolls themselves.

>>12088321
Why do people use text hookers? They're holding you back. It's not acceptable at any level. You've got to learn to read with your eyes on the actual text and not a pop-up box with English definitions on the side of your screen.

>>12088339
There's plenty of proper software that captures only game screen on hotkey and automatically saves it to file in proper format, most of it support automatic upload on filesharing services as well.

>>12088345
Why would anyone assume that someone is using anything else more than mecab/jparser?

Like atlas/google translate is pretty worthless. I mean if we were on hongfire sure, but here?

>>12088351
Try rereading his post again, seems like your English comprehension is quite low.

>>12088351
B-b-but it's not reading Japanese if you're looking at furigana and dictionary definitions!

>>12088353
That's true.

>>12088352
It's the same text though? I don't understand, please explain.

>>12088358
>> not a pop-up box with English definitions on the side of your screen
Means "mecab/jparser". How did you infer "atlas/google translate" from it is total mystery.

>>12088366
You have to roll over them to get the definitions though. Is the correct way to read using japanese dictionary/kanji web sites every time you can't figure something out?

>>12088351
>Why would anyone assume that someone is using anything else more than mecab/jparser?

I don't believe that either are acceptable. The problem with them is that they're not really learning tools, their usage is more like a way to avoid actual learning but still get the reward of reading the material you wanted to read. Learning involves some element of strain, your memory needs to look at something and dig deep to try to recall a connection to it. These tools take that away because it takes away the strain aspect of learning, you just hover the cursor over the text and it instantly pops up and bypasses the recall process.

It'll allow you to fumble your way through some VNs by splicing words, but most of the information slips out of your head as soon as you processed it. The process of manually looking up a word forces you to look at it quite a bit, so your mind has plenty of time to form a solid connection to this word. Most importantly though, the mind has no real reason to focus on the actual Japanese word when the English definitions will pop up instantaneously, so your mind basically throws the actual Japanese into the back of your mind and focuses all of its attention on the English definition. The end result of all this is that you can read VNs in a way that's essentially splicing together a series of English definitions that are modified by either guesses that based on context or by whatever miscellaneous grammar you recognize.

Basically, it becomes a Pidgin language. You're not reading Japanese, but not you're not really reading English either, it's a simplified, makeshift mix of the two that allows you to read VNs but has very little long-term benefit for any other purpose.

>>12088375
Why are you assuming someone would instantly scroll over every time instead of just using it to check something they don't know?

That seems strange to me when its faster to just use it when you need to. And unless you're using some japanese to japanese dictionary like alc.co the definitions you'd receive by looking up a word in a japanese to english dictionary either online or a hard copy would be the same since the online version is based off that wwwdjic or w/e and they got their content from scanning in dictionary entries.

Are you trolling because it seems very slow and useless to spend the extra time looking something up when you can just use a text hooker to get the information much faster I mean there is no special process going on as you flip through pages in a dictionary. You can achieve the same long term effect by spending the same amount of time thinking of the word you just found the definition for by going over it in your head from a hard copy versus jparser.

I'm sorry I'm new to these threads, but with advice like this it sounds like you're trying to steer new learners away from the language by subjecting them to drudgery. Maybe what I should have expected from /jp/.

>>12088375
>The process of manually looking up a word forces you to look at it quite a bit, so your mind has plenty of time to form a solid connection to this word.
Not everyone is as stupid as you, you know.

>>12088375
While I agree on most points you made, its not completely useless for learning. I found its much easier to learn word both in terms of its real meaning [which you cannot infer simply from looking into dictionary, you need to know how its actually used to understand it] and ability to recall it. So if you combine JParser + anki and keep adding new words into anki, you will be fine.

>>12088384
Not the guy you quoted, but he's right. People tend to scroll over any words they don't know, instead of writing vocab down and studying it later. Unless you have photographic memory it's really not the best way to learn.

>>12088391
I simply memorize the kanji and call it a day as I see it, takes about 10 seconds and I don't tend to forget them.

>>12088384

I'm sorry, I should have clarified in my post. I'm referring to using a Japanese-Japanese Dictionary. I don't believe that anything past the most simple words should be learned by using definitions that are outside of the language that you're attempting to learn. The whole process just makes it harder for yourself in the long-term because you will never be able to fully understand a Japanese word if every Japanese word that you know is bound to English definitions and can't be understood without using the English words that you have glued to that Japanese word through rote memorization.

Of course some degree of Japanese-English is necessary, but I believe that this is only appropriate in the context of looking up the simple words that are used to describe the more complex word that you are looking up in the first place.

This is more time consuming, but the rewards are far greater. For example, maybe you went to look up one word, but in the process of reading its definition you've now looked up several other words that were simple but new to you and you've acquired 8 additional words to add to your review deck. So it's 9 words for the price of one, all while learning to understand the word from the perspective of how the Japanese understand that word, rather than by stamping an English definition on it that will come with all of the associated and in this case troublesome English connotations that all words have. Learning vocabulary like that is a juggling act where you constantly bounce between two different languages and it severely limits true comprehension of what you're reading.

Is it that hard to comprehend that different people study shit differently? Some people have to grind down the dictionaries, while the others can just look up the meaning once and remember it through mnemonics. As long as the language stops being an incomprehensible mess, who cares? Reading moege is not a competition.

>>12088420
It's not about comprehending. It's about looking cool in an anonymous image board.
Like
>I only use Japanese-Japanese dictionaries! I'm so cool!

>>12088420
Some people have a hard time imagining something can be done in a different way than they themselves accomplished it.

But he sort of has a point and that's coming from someone who learned through JParser, enough to play most eroge without any outside help nowadays.

Of course I learned a lot that way but I'd imagine using a Jap-Jap dictionary would be an even faster and more reliable way to learn after you got the basic understanding of the language down, especially if you're planning on reading the few, more difficult to understand titles.

Can Mecab/Jparser use a Japanese-Japanese dictionary?

>>12088476
If there's something that's in the same format as edict2 that's used for JParser, it should technically be possible. But whether one exists, I don't know.

>>12088476

Sure, just switch to a J <-> J dictionary file in mecab/jparser format.

>>12088480
>>12088478
Tried googling but I can't find one.

This was a really cute way to end the appends, they really put out one every single month.

>>12088321
Is that SharpE? It's been ages since I used it and it seems it still has the problem I left it for -- no support for Unicode. Well, it's done in Delphi and now I know better than to trust something in Delphi...

>>12088646
I'm going through this series blindly, not targetting any heroine in specific the first time to see how it leads me, LxC1 at the moment, and so far even the heroines I thought I wouldn't care much about are really heartwarming.

>>12088467
The biggest issue about using J->E dictionaries is that EDICT loves giving you several meanings for a single word, which sometimes has less than 5 definitions in japanese. You get a much better idea of a word in japanese by splitting it up to an explanation using simpler vocabulary. But honestly I'd like for that angry anon to pop up at times like this. Who cares what method you're using as long as you're understanding what the fuck is going on? It's not really pertinent to VN discussion.

>>12088646
Is March the last one? Can't wait to see Wakoto end.
Playing the append every month makes me feel as if I really have a girlfriend, so I suppose they achieve their objective.

What are the appends for LxC2? Is it just extra ero-scenes?

>>12088933
>It's not really pertinent to VN discussion.
And yet we've had the same exact discussions about it over and over and over again. It's like a horrible tradition of this thread at this point.

>>12088966
They just released the second batch of appends for the later half of the year together with the april one.

>>12088967
SoL scenes and the occasional fuck, not in all of them. Only ones in which all the heroines get fucked are february and birthday specials, otherwise it varies, but you get a solid two fucks a month.

>>12088987
Alright, that's plenty of fucks for me then. Thanks.

I love these kind of choices. Coming from an average moege to this really makes me notice how good Daitoshokan is, I'm excited for August's next work.

>>12089068
You mean pointless choices that have no effect on the actual plot? Pretty sure most eroge are guilty of having these.

>>12089074
I mean using the interface to make a joke.

>>12089081
Hate this retard girl

>>12089093
At least she was entertaining. Mitcher is worst retard girl.

>>12089093
Retard girls are the funniest.