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dem sweater tits

>>12070369
>>Darwin a qt and Buttblasted by E-5 edition


Please don't bring your /vg/ memes here.

>>12070375
WHat's wrong with memes?

>>12070369
11/10 taste in pictures, OP. She looks so soft and huggable.

that neck tho

>>12070382
But if you hugged her, your face would get pressed against her breasts...

>>12070398
look at her shoulders
the 'neck' what you think of as the neck is actually reaching from her chin to her breasts.
Last I checked boobs don't art right below the neck.

>>12070404
you're right
i never noticed
even in game i thought she had a ridiculous neck but that explains it

>>12070400
And what a tragedy that would be.

Is this the first loli Abyss ship? She's voiced by Yui Ogura as well.

I'm out of ship slots but don't want to spend money

>>12070442
Why? Don't you care about your girls?

>>12070442
Scrap some.

>>12070442
Kanmusu don't like stingy teitokus

>>12070445
enough to not want to scrap any (except extras) but not enough to spend love money

I think Akashi just repaired 2 damage on my 41/45 Isuzu after 20min went by.

The preemptive torpedo strike on the first node of E-3 is annoying. Am I making a mistake on using double line on that node?

>>12070481
nope. rng just hates you

Is there any prerequisite for going south in E1? I'm nearly done and haven't hit the nodes yet.

I'm debating if I should even do E-5. It'll cost a lot of resources just to get Sakawa, when I could be using them for LSC.

>>12070511

Dont send more than 2CV

>>12070511
I went south 2/2 times that I tried doing 1 BB.

>>12070519
It is a waste of resource. Do what's the best for you.

So how do you make kcv's startup page your api link again? I was using the same api link for about 2 months until I forgot to copy it before overwriting all the files in my kcv folder, I checked the archive but replacing the & with & doesn't do anything.

>>12070527
&

>>12070532
Thanks!

>>12070519
Or they may add in E-6 before the event ended, just like Yahagi back then.

Don't LSC first, just wait until it's already over.

What do you think of both event's bgm? Which one did you prefer?
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22173776
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21682141
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgzK-LlgalM

Guess this would be the norm from now on.

>>12070555
The normal one reminds me of Final Fantasy 12 with a traditional japanese mix.

That didn't take long enough. 3-4 can kiss my ass.

>>12070570
e1 or e2?

>>12070573
E-1, in just two attempts.

>>12070570
>>12070573
>>12070575

Is this a rare shipgirl?

I got it in E-2 and I'm just ''meh , okay''

>>12070601
Not during events, she isn't.

>>12070570
>>12070575
I wish Nagato drops easily like that. ;_;

Got a Hamakaze on E-2 instead of Tanikaze.

But I'm still grateful to RNG.

Reminder that you only need air parity to prevent enemy from double attacking

So apparently BB equipped with AP ammo and recon plane can use both cut-in and double attack in day battle. The chance is random. And if you take out AP ammo they will only use double attack.

>>12070627
This has already been discussed two threads before.

>>12070628
My bad, I didn't read through all of them.

I'm only HQ level 35. Will I be able to do anything in the event?

>>12070634
You can probably clear up to E-2. There's still 9 days, take it easy.

>>12070609
I believe you can get her in 3-3 and E-3 easily anyway.
>>12070634
Depends, what ships do you have?

>>12070657
you believe wrong
that's Hatsukaze, 3-4 boss only drop

>>12070657
I don't really know what's the best fleet setup but I could beat the E-1 boss with this. I have rare destroyers and subs, etc. but until recently was leveling everything equally, which turned out to be a bad idea

>>12070670

I'm lvl60TKK with a similar fleet , but with a CV loaded with fighters to get at least air parity.

Almost done with E-2.

Huge drain of fuel though.

>>12070670
Jesus christ that is one expensive fleet to run for E-1.

>>12070682

BBs are the only ship with enough hp,attack and armor for us low level admirals.

>>12070682
>>12070674
it's fine, I had nearly maxed out resources prior to starting the event

cant wait for the next victim girls at C86

I'm really confused, I thought all I need to get to boss node for E-1 is CAV with recon plane and any ships that increases LOS to 400+

I tried sortieing 10 times already and I never got to boss node, what's up with this?

>>12070703
your flagship needs to have a recon plane

>>12070703
Needs more LOS stat from equipment
>>12070710
Cleared it with Kaga as flagship, she didn't carry Saiun yet still 6 out of 6 boss node.

>>12070718
>>12070703
oops i meant seaplane, either the common or the yamato one.

I just got Noshiro out of E-4's boss node.

>>12070710
No you don't need that. 100% boss rate on E-1 to E-3 with a DD flag.

>>12070710
>>12070726
Oh... So my problem is not putting seaplane on my flagship buy my CAV (which is in different position), no wonder I'm having problem

>>12070731

Maybe you need at least 1 CV.

That wasn't so bad once I started using echelon at the night node.

>>12070745
I used 2 CV already during those 10 runs.

This time I'll use BBV-2CLT-BB-2CV, with 2 recon airplanes for the BBV flagship

>>12070746
Setup?

>>12070692
More like victim boys

>>12070754
Akagi had Ryuusei, Shiden kai2, Reppu kai, Tenzan equipped and still got superiority all the way.

>>12070758
Sounds manageable. I guess no searchlight?

>>12070747
Nope, still getting kicked to non-boss node. I guess getting to boss node still requires luck even if you have the proper equipment?

How many kills is E5? Is it more than 6, or does two near-kills add up to less than one full kill?

>>12070777
Put more Type 0 and surface radar.

>>12070770
None at all. I used Echelon a total of 5 times, 4 of them got me through. The one time it failed was from an orange ship getting scratched into red.

From the 5 times I tried it, nothing, including the cut ins, did more than 20 damage.

>>12070747
try 3 seaplanes

>>12070779
8 full kills.

>>12070758

I run 1 CV and 5 BBs. burned my entire max stockpile of 15k fuel in a few hours.

Still need 1 more kill on boss.

Dammit

>>12070794
Thanks

And for support expeditions, you only need to sparkle the flagship right? I've been dumb and have been sparkling everyone so far, although most of them came pre-sparkled from lots of pvp and no sorties.

>>12070812
I wonder if support is even worth it at all. They missed everything on my final run and somehow for this fight all my girls have a tendency to shoot at the boss.

>>12070815
Mine have always killed at least one fortress, and 2/4 times they killed both of them.

>>12070819
This said, it might only be worth it when you need the final kill. I'm just doing it because it seems like this won't take nearly as many resources as I initially though.

>>12070815
Support is kinda random. Sometimes they do a pretty good job, sometime it's just meh.

What if they add a rare drop to E-5 after wednesday?

Finally sinked her. Ironically, this was the one run that I forgot to send my support fleet out.

So what are the chances of Haruna's Kai 2 requiring a blueprint? I'm thinking of saving my medals and foregoing Bismarck's upgrade until I see how she turns out.

>>12070828
It's fine, I'm only doing E-5 for the accomplishment. The only ships I want now are available from LSC or E-1

>>12070828
Farm for her. What are you expecting?

>>12070830
Very likely.

>>12070830
I expect no less from expensive slut like her.

>>12070843
But haruna is the cheapest

>>12070845
a cheap whore, yeah

>>12070840
Now I'm just imagining having to choose between lackluster Zwei stats or being let down again by Konishi's amateurism.

>>12070850
Haruna is a pure angel, do it for her.

>>12070830
Would be weird if the last Kongou needs an item, unlike the others. I'd still keep the blueprint since Bismarck zwei is disappointing.

>>12070853
I would actually like to see a roughed-up angel, delicious late-war trauma.

>>12070815
Support is only 100/300
In a grand scheme of thing, it is fucking nothing and it greatly increases your chance of blasting the boss.

That was an interesting run.

Everything went as wrong as possible, and then Mutsu one shot the boss first thing in night battle.

>>12070850
Just let me tell you guys that konishi has been fucking up after he finished Yahagi.
Haruna will also be niggerfied like musashi because of the camouflage.

>>12070853
>>12070848
>>12070843

Haruna and whore sisters

>>12070885
That retarded look on her face is more awful than the ears.

>>12070885
>tan
Konishi usually changes clothes to signify the camouflage (Zuihou, Yahagi), but if this really happens one hentai artist is gonna have a field day.

>>12070891
This. She's even worse than Yura.

So seeing the rewards at the end of E-5 fuckery are dismal. You will guys still clear it?

>>12070930
uh oh.

>>12070930
saw people tweeting about this earlier
what a gigantic fucking kuso ttk

>>12070930
Such kuso TTK

>>12070914

I want to stop trying but my pride and the 50k I already spent won't let me.

>>12070914
I'm nearly back at res cap so I probably will

>>12070891
She's a retard so the retard look fits her.

>>12070930
クソ提督.

>>12070930
Losing Bismarck for Sakawa, my fucking sides.

>>12070930
Why would you purposefully do this?

Finally sunk the E-4 boss again. It only took me 14 tries.
Now I only need 2 more kills...

>>12070961
>yasen
>subs
Sub killing virgin?

>>12070930
This is a reminder to never, NEVER get desperate and advance on red.

>>12070962
nah, tried to go in so maybe I could decrease those fucking 7hp, it was the same at the end of daytime

>>12070961
Sendai isn't pleased.

I barely made any progress in on E-5 8 times in a row. I don't know what happened, I was doing so well and all of a sudden, lady luck slaps me right in the face. Fuck this.

>>12070979
Are you going with your main fleet sparkled all the time?

How are you enjoying E-5 /jp/?

>>12070983
you still think sparkling matters? enjoy your placebo and wasted fuel

>>12070984
Second node crit my flagship during red T.

>>12070986
you think sparkling doesn't matter? enjoy your ignorance and wasted steel

>>12070984
I want her so bad, so so bad.

>>12070983
Yes, also full sparkle support fleet. I'm getting tired of 1-1 runs, takes up a lot more time than the actual runs.

>>12070984
Just started trying and it's pretty bad.

>>12070984
Gave up after four attempts. If they add something next week then I'll try again.

>>12070994
implying you're not wasting tons of steel in e-5 either way and sparkling makes no difference with that

Where is Kancolle Bingo for this event?

>>12070984
Pic related still applies after 4 more runs.

Motherfucking AI is concentrating fire on my moderately damaged ship again.

Motherfuckers.

>>12071009
If we could only do the same to them...

>>12071002
yeah and evasion and accuracy is just placebo and levels doesn't matter

>>12071013
those are actual stats that are proven to be combat related
where is your proof morale isn't just an expedition stat?

Wow the only rare drop I've ever get since E-1 up to E-4 is a fucking Maruyu.

Fuck this shit.

>>12071017
you sure hit alot of stuff in orange/red fatigue

Is it just me, or is every single freaking node parallel engage? So annoying.

>>12071018
meant to quote >>12071015

>>12071018
so low vlaue affects it. where is the proof for high value?

Echelon or Line aboob for pre boss NB E-2??

>>12071025
Read the wiki.

Honestly, I think sparkles only has a noticeable affect when your entire fleet is in that condition. I remember getting wrecked over and over again by the RE whore in 5-5 but when I switched to a full sparkling fleet, I got to the boss 4/5 times and beat the map. It could've been a coincidence though.

>>12070992
>>12070979
>>12070997
>>12071005
>>12071009
Well, think of it that way: At least you aren't having it as badly as this.

I may eventually have to swallow my pride and go to town with Musashi, Nagato and Mutsu, but I believe in my fleet. They'll pull this off, one way or another.

It's all the more infuriating because they did kill the boss three times, once in the penultimate run. But now it's BB princess season for five boss attempts in a row.

>>12071023
Many people have reported that sparkling their fleet have shown better results for them though.

This event made me hate Ashigara and Chikuma even more.

>>12071040
this even made me hate the compass fairies even more

>>12070972
I did 1 damage to a sub at night once.

>>12071017
At least you got a Maruyu, asshole.

>>12071036
At least you're making it to the boss occasionally. I've sortied to E-5 about 15 times now, using support fleets about half the time, and still haven't made it to the boss node even once.

Probably just going to give up and LSC or craft for the rest of the event, since the game at least took pity on me and gave me Tanikaze in the one E-4 run I decided to do for kicks.

Think on the bright side, E-5 boss bar doesn't regenerate and you still have 9 more days to go.

Happy hunting.

>>12071054
When it is going to end?

>>12071059
7th of May I presume.

>>12071054
All that torture for an ugly boy and measly medals? No thanks.

>>12071054
What if I never sink her when I need it?

>>12071063
You don't do it for the rewards, you do it to defeat the scum abyss fleet and prove to your shipfu that you aren't a kuso teitoku

How many % do you think will finish E5?

>>12071063
You'll eat your words when Haruna comes begging for her remodel.

>>12071067
Much more than the last time, that's for sure.

>>12071067
40% I guess. Most people are just biding their time waiting for winning strategies.

>>12071073
Too bad the best winning strategy is Yamato/Musashi, Taihou/Kaga, and 2 other battleships.

>>12071078
That's definitely the easiest way to go about doing it but in my case it was simply line abreast and sparkling.

>>12071073
More like waiting to see if the devs pull a Yahagi. 40% is also a ridiculous number. You overestimate how many people even want to try it.

newbie here.
just unlocked those support expeditions recently.

are they worth it?

I've tried torpedo and carrier support. 99% of the time they miss and for the 1% that hit , they do negligible damage.

>>12071085
They're only worthwhile in E5

>>12071085
That's normal.

>>12070984
Looking good for me, 5 more to go. This night I will gonna kill airfield-chan again then rest and repeat it tomorrow. Just take it easy and don't rush things, it will make you take bad decisions.

>>12071040
This event actually made appreciate kancolle.
After I beat it, I took a break and started playing puzzle and dragon. The amount of money you need to play that game is fucking huge. While we can freely craft for shit and giggles in kancolle, you need to fucking pay 5stone to craft a card. 1stone = $1.
I can see why kancolle is actually blowing the fuck out of other mobage.

>>12071105

I play PAD (Japan server) too.

Do not agree though.

I've got at least 40-50 free stones just from the last 4 months. And there's another 10 from the recent event.

They're giving us free stuff nonstop.

Unless you're after those limited edition (not really limited cuz they almost recycle those events) , thats more than enough stones without paying a single cent.

Aaand I'm done, that was fun. Used around 30-35k each resource but only 4k baux. When the devs said we'd be using a lot of baux in this event, did they mean it as a joke?
Trophy ship's shit, at least Amatsukaze's cute.

I assume bismarck is popular with the nips

Blonde german ship with an aggressive personality must be a hit with those japanese men

>>12071119
Meanwhile most of admirals here went at least 40 times to clear this map.
Just how comes it only took you 20 times?
And what do you mean by automatic sparkle? AHK script?

Yes finally. Cleared E-2 :))))

>>12071128
Full sparkle fleet for all runs. I'm using the bot being developed on 2ch.

>>12071119
>When the devs said we'd be using a lot of baux in this event, did they mean it as a joke?
I though they were talking about Midway event.

>>12071133
Elaborate

>>12071134
Was it? I thought was for the spring event but don't really remember.

>>12071135
Search ヵゝんT=ﾚヽ⊇яё＜Ｕょん on logsoku. The only thing I ever use it for is sparkles though, resources are all legit just so you know. Well, not like it matters to me if no one believes me, I stopped taking the game too seriously long ago.

So after this, how soon Midway will be?

>>12071148
Interesting, I hope it doesn't troll you by changing your display message

>>12071116
PAD actively discourage NEET and constant grinding.
You have no stamina unless you pay.
Progression is slow.
If you have a bad roll at the start you are basically screwed.
Drop rate is horrendous for anything above 3stars.

Kancolle reward NEET and constant playing. You can easily progress through to the end game in a month time if you put in the time.

I do like the friend system in PAD though. They should implement it, imagine having a 7th ship Yamato in your fleet.

So now I'm looking at E-3.

Can I have a general idea of how much more difficult would it be compared to E-2??

>>12071159
E3 is much easier than E-2.

>>12071159
1. Sortie 4BB2CV
2. S Rank boss
3. Repeat x6

>>12071159
E5->E2->E3->E4->E1
After you beat E2, the following 2maps are gimme.
E5 is optional since nobody actually like Sakawa.

>>12071159
E3 is a joke, double-line all the way till boss and line ahead there

>>12071162
>>12071164

Sounds great. Thanks

>>12071165
If they changed amatsukaze to be E5 end a lot of nips would be raging on the boards

And kadokawa DMM would be rolling in the dirty NEET money

>>12071171
Based devs, they value your happiness more than money.

>>12071171
I think DMM devs themselves know that Sakawa is shit. They didnt even bother changing their twitter avatar to slowly leak Sakawa design. Some kind of event trophy hahaha.

I think Konishi is finished after so many blunders. Haruna is his last chance to redeem himself.

>>12071036
I've done more in 2 runs with sparkled Yamatos

>Go south after the blue node on E-3
>Preboss node is YASEN

OH GOD

Fuso brought her down to 4HP.

Then, Kirishima missed her. Twice.

I have tasted true despair. I can now supply three more runs. Wish me luck.

>>12071194
That's nowhere near despair.

>>12071132
>:))))

Fuck off.

Anyone doing/successfully done E-3 without 4 BB setup? I only have two that's decently leveled. Thinking about going:
BB BB CA CLT CV CV

>>12071236
3BB 3CV

>>12071236
Yeah but it's unreliable

>>12071204
After 100k steel and fuel, it sure is.

I had everything necessary, 46cms, support fleet, sparkles, the works. I guess I can now rightfully claim to be as unlucky as my flagship.

But these are the girls who saw me through 2-4 and Fall E4, I won't abandon them. I'll recover my losses and try next week.

Anyone have a problem, when go to crafting page, the game instantly freeze? Or when crafting ship?

>>12071236
I did it with 2 BB 2 CAV 2 CV.

>>12071236
Cleared E-3 with that setup. But there are a few times I have to retreat due to the CLT (KTKM) got hit to red before boss node, and sometime they cant deal enough damage to sink the boss.

>>12071236
I finished it with BBV CAV BB CLT 2CV easily.

>>12071236
I brought a DD along as my flag replacing a BB, everything ignored her for some reason. Only time I had to back out was when she got to red, though I had another ship in red so I'd back off anyway.

>>12071242
This wouldn't happen if you had the hotel in your fleet.

>>12071236
2bb2clt2cv actually worked beter for me than 4bb2cv, and it's cheaper to boot. Line Abreast on first node and even without any ASW equips the CLTs will usually disable one or both subs, lowering the torpedo bullshit on first node, and line ahead = fantastic opening damage and great night battle damage for boss.

I'm from Hitokappu-wan server, and I'm now getting errorcat everytime I click game start.
Playing from browser using VPN, cleared cache.
Am I banned?

>>12071241
I'm sure it'll be more difficult but I'm wondering how much harder it could be compared to E-2. I could bite the bullet if it came down to being just as annoying.

>>12071239
>>12071246
>>12071244
>>12071251
Awesome, good to know it'll be doable, albeit maybe not as easy. Thanks guys.

>>12071242
In my book it isn't despair when the boss doesn't regenerate. Regardless, that's some Rank E luck you have over there, I wish I could do something for you.

>>12071250
I have Musashi, Nagato and Mutsu benched, but it'll take more than that to make me give up. I trust my core team to handle this with flair once I recoup my losses and come back for round two.

They'll show that island bitch her place, I'm sure of it.

>>12071194
Imagine it's 5-6 months ago. After a very long night of being glued in front of your computer with no sleep, you finally get the gauge all the way down on the most hellish map in history. You miraculously survived 3 night battles, won against the compass, and reached the airport hime. And just when you thought your luck couldn't get any better, your trusty fleet knocks out everything except the hime with 212 and a single TA in orange. Your first Kongou sinks the TA right away, and second one crits for 73. The rest of phase one is just scratch damage but your fleet's damaged so it can't be helped. Hime has 106 hp at start of second phase, and your lovely Kongou flag crits again for 81. The next 4 ships keep doing scratch damage until it reaches your second Kongou that you left in the last slot to deal the finishing blow. Hime has 9 hp left, it was clear you had this in the bag. You think to yourself, "finally, the nightmare is over."
>7

Now that is true despair.

>>12071236
>>12071236
>4BB
Why would you do that
1BB 1CA 1CAV 1CL 2CV here

>>12071265
Or basically, this.

>>12071242
>using kuso class.
Dont say we didnt warn you.

>>12071265
Enemy boss abyss ship has resolve skill. They have armor boost when they are critically damaged. You basically can only sink them during night or if you super crit them during day battle when they still have 50% health.

>>12071270
Is it nostalgia time?

>>12071265
I know what you mean, I went through that too. In return for an exceptionally easy E4, I had to deal with the BB princess without both CLTs in tow (I didn't have Ooi, and only managed to get her earlier this event, over seven months into the game), and got her to single digits half a dozen times before dropping her. But I guess that's what makes Kancolle 'fun', getting trashed and returning to ask for more.

But yes, you're right, at least now we don't have to worry about gauge recovery and uncertainties regarding ship sinking mechanics. I'll be ready next week.

>>12071270
>>12071277

What about killing her on the last sortie you managed to fuel and kill her to find out theres a little bit remaining of the bar?

>>12071281
Now this is true despair.

>>12071265
I know what you mean, I went through that too. In return for an exceptionally easy E4, I had to deal with the BB princess without both CLTs in tow (I didn't have Ooi, and only managed to get her earlier this event, over seven months into the game), and got her to single digits half a dozen times before dropping her. But I guess that's what makes Kancolle 'fun', getting trashed and returning to ask for more.

But yes, you're right, at least now we don't have to worry about gauge recovery and uncertainties regarding ship sinking mechanics. I'll be ready next week.

>>12071281
Goodness, you're that admiral? I take it back, there isn't a single doubt that you're the unluckiest among us.

>>12071277
Why not? The Fall event was more fun than this one, I think, since there were a lot more war stories. Now that everyone (except me, it seems) can steamroll over the event, trauma stories aren't as common as they were before.

I hope they add an expedition cancel button, god this is such a fucking pain

>>12071287
This event just started like 3 days ago, I'm sure we will see more despair stories next weekend, not everyone gives up on E-5.

>>12071277
I got my Musashi literally thirty minutes before the end of the event, repairing my girls with buckets from random dailies because I had no more left...

I'm still not sure if I prefer the gauge recovery or Spring E-5's retarded cost, but at least the former had a worthwhile reward, I'm not really motivated to farm 50k fuel for a CL that's not even cute.

>>12071287
>The Fall event was more fun than this one, I think, since there were a lot more war stories. Now that everyone (except me, it seems) can steamroll over the event
Most people doing fall event are under leveled, under equipped and didnt stockpile 300k worth of resources. Of course it is going to be more fun, more challenging and more stressful. Game mechanic was not totally known that time and we have to rush against time. HP regen makes a huge difference.
I think 75% of the time was spent trying to get the last kill while continuously staring at the computer screen..

>>12071300
Fall event definitely costs more. For me it was 30 or so runs to clear it and 87 runs while failing to get Yahagi.

>>12071287
This event is fun because I can do whatever I want, with whoever I want, and whenever I want. I'm in control, not some stupid fucking regenerating health bar.

My only gripe is that E-4 ended up being a gimmick instead of a more challenging mini E-5. The rewards in general are also lackluster. None of the ships are really combat worthy and outside of the Reppu Kai the equipment is just shit.

Another repair goddess is nice but I'm going to wait forever for a situation where I'll actually need them. They're like Master Balls.

>>12071313
Longest 20 hours of my life.

>>12071314
>>12071300
This.
This event can be farmed with cheap ships while leveling your zwei ships and new DD.

>>12071287
My luck is just weird

For my massive luck with crafting and drops I get horrible horrible sorties.

Nagato was literally my first battleship back in October 2 days after I started.

>>12071314
E1~4 are definitely cheaper now that but Spring E-5 can have a six-digit bill for fuel and steel which is more than what some people spent on all of Fall.

Also I just sparkled all of my E5 fleet to 100, I really hope this'll help because fuck the Hime at the second node.

>>12071327
I shat out 30k on fall E-4, 20k on E-5 and 90k on E-7.

>>12071327
Can you sparkle to 100 now or you're talking about PVP?

>>12071333
PVP.

>>12071333
you can't sparkle to 100
people are just dumb and don't grasp the new fatigue mechanic

>>12071339
>new fatigue mechanic
Is it 'fatigue now regenerates during sortie'?

>>12071339
what is pvp, onii-chan?

>>12071339
it is actually possible if you sparkle them to 85, and get a S rank with 15 PVP battle without sortie for that whole fleet.

Learn fatigue mechanic

>>12071339
Be so kind and share the new mechanic, because we only had assumptions so far.

>>12071348
and when I say 15, that's assuming you are unable to MVP all your ships. If you can, 6 pvp battle is enough.

>>12071324
RNG balances out in the end.
It statistic, it is called regression toward the mean.

>>12071348
I think you can sparkle to 99 with the new mechanic. From what I seen in KCV, the -15penalty is applied together with what you gain and not separately like previously.

>>12071339
Yeah right.

>>12071363
What is ovo

>>12071363
>>12071351
>>12071348
>>12071346
>sparkling with PVP
hurr hurr derp derp
Please, we're talking about reliable and always available methods here, not refresh heavy, quantity limited nonsense

>>12071368
>pretending we are talking about reliable method
>stating you can't 100
butthurt idiot

>>12071370
Misinterpreting faggot

>>12071368
>Can you sparkle to 100 now or you're talking about PVP?
>>you can't sparkle to 100
>>>Please, we're talking about reliable and always available methods here, not refresh heavy, quantity limited nonsense
What...

I want Abyss to stop bullying Akagi, it's not my fault LSC denied me Taihou.

>>12071382
I know how you feel, anon.

I remember something from twitter that all floatplanes (so bombers as well) will enable double attack but now I can't find anything about it. Did I just dream about it? If no, is it in the game already?

Why isn't this on /vg/?

>>12071393
Official Twitter.

>>12071393
Read the wiki.

>>12071393
Yes.

>>12071395
because /vg/ is a mess, and this thread goes past the bump limit in a matter of hours, /jp/ is better suited for this kind of stuff

>>12071393
Double attack happens only when you get air superiority, carriers or ships with bombers are required, equipping recon planes only does nothing

That was...interesting.

>>12071404
>because /vg/ is a mess, and this thread goes past the bump limit in a matter of hours, /jp/ is better suited for this kind of stuff
How exactly is /vg/ a mess? Pretty much everyone just keeps to their own generals, it's no different from here. I can kind of understand the bump limit, but just making a new thread every 900 posts or so seems a lot nicer than having to wait for the thread to fall all the way off a very slow board, and all the lag that comes from a 1500 post thread.

I don't see how /jp/ is better suited to this kind of stuff, it's a popular topic that's really outgrown a small board. Maybe it could come back to /jp/ in a few years if the popularity isn't enough to sustain a thread on /vg/, but we have more than enough posters to ever worry about the thread falling off /vg/.

>>12071426
>lag
What lag?

>>12071432
My browser likes to freeze up when I'm scrolling through the thread by the time we get to page 10.

It's a common issue due to moot's shoddy coding.

>>12071426
>lag
buy a new computer faggot, even my phone can handle a 1600 reply thread.

>>12071395
>>12071426
Why aren't touhou, cinderella girls, VNs and other 10 games with generals on /vg/? Just because there are boards dedicated to games specifically does not mean games should only go there. /jp/ isn't specific enough for that.
>1500 post thread.
In /vg/ the bump limit is 1k. Go figure.
> it's a popular topic that's really outgrown a small board
Nevermind, it's your first month here. Move along.

Hi guys, what is your recommended browser in Tablet to play Kancolle? Was it Google Chrome or is there a flash projector for it? Thanks.

>>12071444
People recommend ふらぴったん, but I haven't tried it.

I swear ta-chan targets my low evasion melon every damn time just because she wants me to spend bucket after bucket

What if E5 is a test by devs to see how many are willing to clear a hard map for a measly reward? What if after seeing the number of participants they give out Unryuu-class as the Midway's final reward and put Shinano and Ibuki in LSC instead?

>>12071451
Just replace melon with Isuzu.

>>12071444
this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.lilylight.dandelion
you've to download flash plugin from adobe website, and this app redirects you to DMM website so you've to run a VPN on your tablet before starting the game, but other than that it works perfectly, and has some nice extra features.

There are posts on 2ch about using line abreast on E-2. Has anyone tried it?

>>12071462
As far as I remember it forces you into line ahead if you choose it. I might be wrong though.

>>12071462
Echelon is working wonders for night battle.

>>12071463
I mean E-5, sorry

>>12071451
???

Got her to red only once

>>12071465
In that case it makes no fucking difference. You either get wrecked by sub's torpedoes, or by everyone except her.
>>12071451
Use boilers, they're useful now.

>>12071461
Thank you admiral. May RNG bless you with good drops in this event.

Gotta love when this happnes

First time I tried using trash support. Jesus, this is just a waste of resources, and they were even sparkled.

>>12071441
None of those other topics would survive on /vg/, though. 2hu would last a thread or two, Cinderella girls wouldn't manage a single thread, the rest of the card games wouldn't either. /jp/ has threads for untranslated VNs and nukiges, while /vg/ already has a translated VN thread.

Kancolle has more than enough posters to last on /vg/ for years.

Fuck, I tried being creative and based on the calculator, I replaced one type62 with a 12A. Failed to achieve superiority, costed me the boss. That, plus everyone focused the other hime at night.

>>12071494
calculator gives you the exact number you need for air superiority on that node, nothing else.
Remember that pre boss nodes won't sit doing nothing: they will shoot some plane down.

Always plan something like 5-15 FP margin.

Is it possible to S rank E-5 boss node?

>>12071503
Yeah, I used a margin of 10. Apparently it was not enough

>>12071504
Yeah, I did on my first attempt

>>12071507
I use a margin of 40

>>12071504
Yes
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm23396885

>>12071507
This is what I use
I go 3CV because the north route is a lot better than the south route. So much that I'm willing to sacrifice some night battle firepower at least until the final run

Should I finish E-5 this week? Or should I wait for the upcoming update.

>>12071518
what upcoming update? If you're hoping for new rewards, that was google TL people being stupid. Not going to happen ever.

>>12071490
>None of those other topics would survive on /vg/
I thought we were talking about a suitable community for game generals, not thread length dickwaving contest. PMMM flash game threads are so underpopulated they often die before bump limit, and yet there's always someone to create a new one. If you're going to rid the board of one game, you need to do the same to all of them, else you're as hypocritical as a /v/irgin.
>Kancolle has more than enough posters to last on /vg/ for years.
Again, wrong. These threads are so active right now only because of the event, usually they're slow enough to survive a week after hitting bump limit.

>>12071504
Yeah. Enjoy your Yahagi and crauts.

You were supposed to be decent wagahai, why the new lewd skirt

>>12071517
>the north route is a lot better than the south route
Is it? You have the same trollsub, a second sub, and one less BB. But you get 2 flagship wo.

>>12071395
Because from the very beginning /a/ and /jp/ were full of elitist jackoffs who wouldn't be caught dead using a shit board like /jp/ (despite the fact that /a/ and /jp/ are also shit.)

>>12071543
>is it
Do you even E-5

>>12071539
Oh fuck, his next Japan has Ushio. What a faggot.

>>12071546
Yes, but I never took the north route. And you can't dodge node E, which has the best chance to fuck one of your ships.

>>12071395
Because from the very beginning /a/ and /jp/ were full of elitist jackoffs who wouldn't be caught dead using a shit board like /vg/ (despite the fact that /a/ and /jp/ are also shit.)

All these Maruyu drops, man.

Luck doesn't reset on marriage, does it?

>>12071549
Go to /v/ then.

>>12071517
>the north route is a lot better
You still have to be fucked by the hime at the second node which is the real problem

>>12071551
Why the fuck would I?

>>12071517
Seriously? Damn, I might try it if I get desperate.

Don't give up, even peasants can do E5.

>>12071555
Probably he has full page of married ships and high luck.

>>12071555
>lv110 gensui
>peasant

>>12071555
Too bad I'm just an unlucky peasants.

>>12071543
double line torpedo hit chance: medium
ring form torpedo hit chance: very low

double line shelling hit chance: high
ring form shelling hit chance: medium

double line attack power: 80%
ring form attack power: 70%

Flag Wo are hearmless because if you go north route you're fucking loaded with reppus. the single TA loses 10% attack power compared to south, which is just enough to result almost always in scratch damage. she hits less often, too.
the subs are mostly harmless because a very low hit chance is indeed, very low. even if they crit, they have 10% less attack power and they crit in double line more often.

In every possible way is the north pre-boss node safer

bringing 3 CVs allows you to do >>12071517 which just might allow your CVs to deal some scratch damage to the boss or at least deal some damage to the RU or kill the fortresses if your boss support fucks up.

However, and this is a big however, for the final run, to finally sink her, I do recommend 4BB 2CV and gamble on south because you will need that extra firepower at night.

If you can reliably sink her with 3CVs however, you won't need that
I am using shoukaku in my loadout because she's my second highest CV at 74 (Kaga is 90, Taihou is 63)

>>12071555
He's fucking spending his resources ranking up, that's not a goddamn peasant dammit

Is it safe to use line abreast at E-3 at the submarine node?
Sometimes the subs crit my ships.

>>12071560
Listed like that, I sounds easier indeed. I might give it a try.

>>12071560
Biggest problem is that carriers need to target and down the BB's hard. I find that most of the time even 90-120+ CV's miss the BB's and it's frustrating

You also can't do anything about GOHOMMU princess

>>12071560
that's an interesting way to go, but is a 15 margin actually enough to get superiority every time at the boss?

>>12071566
Yeah. If you have air superiority you can deal decent damage, too.

>>12071571
Look at his settings. It's 65 actually

>>12071566
3 CV 3 BB double-line all the way to boss, then line ahead.

I even brought a 30 kongou to level in E-3. The map is a breeze, seriously.

>>12071573
oh i didn't notice the 50, never mind then

>>12071571
that's a 15 margin /after/ accounting for 50 extra fighter power for losing planes.
I have never lost /that/ many fighters before the boss, so it should be fine. worst case, replace more suisei with type 62 or outright replace a suisei with a reppu

>>12071568
These problems exist with 4BB2CV too and even worse, Kaga won't be able to do anything and Taihou has less attack power so even if she does hit anything it will most likely not do much. Also, no setup can do anything about Retreat-a-go Hime.


One thing I haven't tested is the line abreast tactic that Japan is reporting quite a bit. I've seen people here talk about it too and show some convincing screenshots. CVs evasion isn't complete garbage so this might actually help against the Retreat-a-go Hime in the second Node.
If anyone could test this out and report back that would be much appreciated.

>>12071575
~355 is enough to get air superiority if you go north

>>12071572
>>12071574
I'm using 4 fast BB and 2CV, and still sometimes got crit at preboss node with Wo or the sub node.

And for the boss, I'm having difficulty because my BB only doing 20-30 damage to the BB. and sometimes until night battle my ships couldn't finish the boss because they targeted the BB.

Is this quite normal? Because that penalty whatsoever?

>>12071580
Abreast would require very high level ships for maxed or near-max evasion

Fuck me for never, ever levelling my BB's and always doing 3CLT cheap-efficient clearcomps

>>12071580
I will try line abreast with 4BB2CV tomorrow and report back but I doubt it's a good idea.

>>12071523
>If you're going to rid the board of one game, you need to do the same to all of them
Not sure what the guy you were replying to was saying, but that's the plan. Maybe not necessarily move them to /vg/ like this thread, but at least stop that general-epidemic.
>Again, wrong. These threads are so active right now only because of the event, usually they're slow enough to survive a week after hitting bump limit.
Yep, that's utter bullshit. Do you even once in your life even browsed /jp/ outside of this thread?
And please don't call other people new, it's really obvious who the newfriends are and who aren't.

>>12071580
The problem with abreast is your CV gains placebo evasion, but your BBs suffer armor penalty. I rather retreat because of a CV rather than a Yamato.

>>12071584
I run this with 82, 98, 97, 90, 63, 74 so that's not a whole lot of evasion that is missing

Thinking about this, what if formations apply simply a modifier to the evasion value? I can see Line Ahead having as low as 0.6 evasion and line abreast having 1.0

that would actually make a lot of sense

>>12071591
>that's the plan
> it's really obvious who the newfriends are and who aren't
Says the warosu shitposter.

>>12071590
That is what people were saying. They doubted it's a good idea but reported back good results when they tried. Screenshots were posted so I'm inclined to say it's not complete nonsense.

>>12071592
If you get hit you're likely going straight to orange or red in most cases, which means the evasion might actually be an equally viable choice

>>12071583
Do you have sanshiki? Even my 30+ kongou was doing 120x2 to sweatertits at night

>>12071604
>They doubted it's a good idea but reported back good results when they tried
Just like sparkling.

I won't get air superiority giving both Akagi and Kaga a type62 in the last slot, won't I?

>>12071611
There were plenty of bad reports for sparkling as well but so far I've not seen negative reports for the line abreast strategy

>>12071560
I just wanted to report that I S-ranked first 2 nodes, but my Kongou got shot to red by the sub.

>>12071580
>>12071584
>>12071594
Here's my log, attempt 27 and onwards were the times where I ran Aboob for the 2nd and 3rd nodes. It's either I'm extremely lucky or Aboob did wonders.

Ran it with Nagato (95), Musashi (89), Yamato (84), Mutsu (115), Kaga (99) and Taihou (99). For some reason the ship on the 2nd slot kept getting wrecked so I let Musashi tank that position.

>>12071591
I really shouldn't only edit parts of my post. Sorry.

>>12071599
I'm not a warosu shitposter.

>>12071615
north or south route?
How did the Hime in node 2 behave? Actual crit or just high damage roll?

>>12071616
>the ship on the 2nd slot kept getting wrecked
Goddamn, I have the same problem.
>>12071622
North. She did medium damage, but I was also sparkled, so that might've affected things.

>>12071606
Yes, they did doing around that damage to the Hime at night like that, the problem is other ship that's still alive and my BB target them and not the Hime.
Like those 2 BB or other ship if they're lucky.

>>12071626
Well I admit that I have shitty equipment, only one 46cm and the rest is stacked 41cm.

RNG is such an amazing thing. For me E2 was much easier than E3. None of the nodes except pre-boss could make a dent on me, and only about half the time did the night node screw me over.

E3 on the other hand could troll me on sub node, troll me on second node, and troll me on pre-boss. You'd never know when they decided they should get a lucky hit. Usually it was if you see a green T, you have to abort the sortie due to enemy crits. Sure on good sorties this map was easy, but you never knew when your sortie would be ruined by RNG.

>>12071638
My experience was somewhat similar, unfortunately.

>>12071638
Green T is so much more soul crushing on E5.

Threadly whine about green T fix. It's a joke that we have to deliberately avoid it to not get fucked.

>>12071638
I've cleared E-1 to E-4 all within 10 sorties each map, then I proceeded to blow 60k steel on E-5.

>>12071645
It was always like that, just to a lesser extent.

>>12071645
I remember during my run on E-3, preboss node. Had a green T-cross and the flagship Wo managed to land a critical hit on one of my CVs even with air superiority, bringing her to red. I really hope they fix it.

>>12071651
I know, but modernization was the same, it was here since the beginning and it just got fixed. I hope next is T-cross

>>12071645
I don't really read about green T, I just know that you will likely doing more damage to the enemy, how's now? What did they fix?

>>12071660
go to bed.

>>12071660
For all I know, green T means you can do some big damage to the boss, but it also means the enemy can return the favor. You can also see the real life effect of it on wikipedia and compare the effects in-game and in real life.

>>12071616
With support fleet?

>>12071654
E3 preboss with green T and I tried double line, the enemy BB still crit to red from full health on one of my BBs.

I'd almost like to claim green T doesn't give increased damage, it just ignores all defense values.

>>12071673
On mine though, I wiped out all ships but the flagship wo which for some reason they kept missing or their daytime double attacks are dealing scratch damage. Then 1st air attack from Wo brought a 30-ish damage to my CV, second air attack then finally lolcritted my CV for good. It was on line ahead by the way.

>>12071673
That could be very probable, since diamond already means their BB's are hitting for lowered damage

Along with double-line it should normally cause only scratch, even to CV's in all my runs there

>>12071664
Only one more try to E-3.
>>12071666
I think I read it also like that. But never really noticed it.
>>12071679
Just now this happened to me, but it was BB to deal damage to Kaga and forcing me to retreat, even though their attack only deal scratch damage

E-4 without damecon, line ahead/ring/aboob?

>>12071698
>without damecon
Don't

>>12071700
Already cleared the event, just looking to farm for 3bear

>>12071698
aboob/ring/aboob, but you'll need a lot of luck.

>>12071698
fuck it, critted to red first node three times in a row

>>12071727
Also for some reason, first node doesn't use up any ammo

>>12071698
it's okay if you have your whole team sparkling.
i can make it to boss with ring

Cut-ins are auto-hits, right?

>>12071698
>>12071700
>>12071737
What? I'm doing it for Tanikaze + zwei and it's really easy with turbines, no damecons, no sparkles, no support.

With right setup, are you guaranteed to land on boss mode in E-1? I used BBV-2CLT-3CV with 3 seaplane on my BBV, but I still can't get to the boss node.

LoS is 375

>>12071755
If they miss they do scratch damage

Seeing those retards at wikia sinking their ships out of desperation and resources whining, pleases me.

>>12071793
Just found this on my newsfeed
Someone actually kept tabs on them.

>>12071793
Why? It's not the ships fault if their commander is terrible.

>>12071793
It's unbelievable that people are sinking their ships over this event. Resources, sure, but now we know exactly which conditions a ship may sink under, and it's not like you'll handle the boss node with one of your ships in the red, except when you're at E4.

>>12071809
compilation of ships sunk by wikitards?

>>12071817
It says from some KC FB group. I dunno, I never tried to get in one. I prefer to discuss shipgirls with a few of my close acquaintances.
But yeah I had no idea how are they sinking these given there isn't even a damn regenerating hp gauge to begin with

>>12071809
> sinking Taiho
I wish I could hate that retard to death.

>>12071815
If I recall correctly, someone said that they advance in red because they believed that the abyss ships won't target their red ships because it has increased evasion.

Nevertheless they are truly retarded.

>>12071809
Oh boy, I can't wait for Midway to see dipshits like these.

http://kancolle.himeuta.net/forums/showthread.php?308-Ship-Graveyard

top lel

>>12070527
Open config file and replace the link with your api link.

>>12071809
I sank a moon class DD while sparkling during the event. Can't even remember who it was.

>>12071842

>>12071835
How is that even possible to be this mentally disabled?
>>12071842
> Can't even remember who it was.
What was here hair colour? Mutsukies are the best, I'll never forgive you.

>>12071835
Why do people even let their ships sink? Its easily preventable.

>>12071835
No fucking way...

>>12071835
>1. Murakumo(starter) - It was only my 2nd day as a teitoku so I had no idea she would sink next node when orange.

They're still retarded all right

>>12071835
I probably let most of the DDs available sank in 1-1 for sparkling runs (even gumos).
There are also a bunch of CAs, CVs, BBs, throwaways that I used to run 2-2 and 4-1.
The only sunken ship that I did intend to keep was Tama on my first day as a Teitoku.

Does it affect your opening air combat if one of your CVs is damaged? I know it does affect shelling damage, but I'm not sure if I should proceed to next node when Taihou takes orange damage and I need superiority.

Don't bash them too hard.

Man, E-4 first node is so good for sub dailies, only 74 fuel spent to complete it plus you get loads of exp.

>>12071871
I still got air superiority with both CVs in orange at e-3 and I didn't have that much of an error margin so I can safely say opening air strike is not affected

>>12071871
I think I had superiority even with both Kaga and Taihou in orange at E-5 boss.

>>12071861
>I had no idea she would sink next node when orange.
That's impossible

Into the trash she goes, I don't need DDs with mental problems. Not to mention that I already have 48 DDs, any more and I will have to hate my money.

Sakawa smells and has brain problems.

Wow. The unlucky fleet beat E-5
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm23415736

Freaking E2 pre-boss node keep sending me back, do I need to sparkle the fleet?

>>12071894
No, it's a waste of time. Accept that RNG fucks you just keep forcing it.

>>12071890
I don't care about her ears, but her eyes makes her look retarded.

>>12071871
No. Only number of planes matter. Note that amount of planes lost even with superiority is at RNG's mercy, I once got parity instead of superiority at E3 boss node despite having 23 more then then needed. Every other sortie went smoothly with superiority at boss node.

>>12071897
Alright.. still got lots of resources to burn.

>>12071894
Grit you teeth and continue trying, you'll get lucky sooner or later. Try Double Line instead of Echelon, extra armor might help you soak more cut-ins.

>>12071910
Double Line eh..I'll try that, Echelon almost got Ise killed with 2 cut-ins.

First 3CV run.
I'll keep trying, the preboss node is much better indeed.

>>12071922
did you use line aboob?
did you get air superiority?

>>12071923
From node to node
LA DL DL LA

And of course I got superiority with 3CV.

>>12071891
And they say levels don't matter.

That fucking fleet dogpiled that gothic slut.

>>12071918
Kongos were getting hit by CA cut in for ~60 in echelon, ~40 in double line for me. Somewhat more manageable.

>>12071756
How often are you getting double attacked by the BB?

>>12071925
okay, going to look for someone that is running with line aboob and 3CV just to see if there is any truth to the success

>>12071891
Oh boy, Shigure critting 50 into the BB princess is priceless.
Also, all those dodges. Lucky fag.

>>12071891
What in the hell are with those levels

>>12071936
he's using line ahead you turd

Just why

So /jp/ admirals, what if they bring back the horrors of regenerating health gauge at Midway? Do you think that, it will be the greatest wall or bracket for scrubs?

>>12071939
Which is exactly why I then said I am going to look for someone who uses line aboob because that was previously discussed but not widely tested yet.

You Turd.

>>12071933
Yes, it's scratch damage mostly.

>>12071947
Sure, see if your double attack and support fleet does anything.

>>12071952
I'm not using normal node support fleet because I'm not running weak ships
I obviously go Line ahead on boss

>>12071944
Regenerating isn't the problem, night battle to wear you down, dead end node, escape mechanism combined with regeneration is the hardest part.

>>12071948
10 runs without any success, either the air raid shits on me or the BB targets the same target twice. Wo Kai always misses during shelling phase though.

>>12071941
RIP

>>12071941
Isn't that shopped

>>12071560
Thanks anon 3CV 3 BB worked better for me, I could actually pass the preboss node most of the time.
I'm glad it's over. I don't even want to look at my bill.

I fucking hate green T more than anything else in this game

>>12072005
did you go LA DL DL LA? Because every time I go DL on the BB Hime I get my ass handed to me.

Am I the only one to get cat bombarded.

>>12072082
Yes. I'd pray she misses or hits a ship just to orange.