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11972209 No.11972209 [Reply] [Original]

>show autistic cousin Umineko
>she thinks Battler was the autistic one and notices nothing odd about Maria

fucking autists, man.

>> No.11972218

you confuse autism with mentally retardation
cool xbox sprites, dude

>> No.11972243

>>11972218
Is it just me, or is Maria's sprite somewhat tall for someone nine years old?

>> No.11972256

>>11972243
Just assume she wears EXTREME high heels (I'm talking >30cm). Notice how her waist, on the picture, is higher than Battler's, despite her upper body being half the size of his.

>> No.11972286

>>11972256
Has anyone a comparision with a sprite of young Ange? Normally she should be even shorter.

>> No.11972323

>>11972256
Maria can float. With magic.

>> No.11972326

>she thinks Battler was the autistic one

I would call an insane amnesiac writer who most likely was involved in murdering several family members autistic. Congrats to your cousin that he solved Umineko within seconds.

>> No.11972325 [DELETED] 

Who are you quoting?

>> No.11972332

>>11972326
*she.

>> No.11972424

>showing an autist umineko
It's like you want your cousin to kill all your family.

>> No.11972431

>>11972424
I might have life insurance on them.

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>>11972323
she can change her height with magic.

>> No.11972442

>>11972243
Don't bother with that.

>> No.11972466
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11972466

What would it be like to gently hold Rosa in your arms while telling her everything is going to be alright?

>> No.11972488

>>11972243
Autists are usually bigger and grow faster than normal human beings.

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>>11972466
About 99% less fun than to rip off her clothes, then rape her while slowly strangling her to death.

>> No.11972517

>>11972511

b-but... I want to be nice to her...

>> No.11972521

>>11972511
I can still see a nipple, 2lewd

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>>11972511

>> No.11972597

>>11972517
Nice stuttering, f/a/ggot.

>> No.11972666 [DELETED] 

>>11972209
Yeah, but who are you quoting?

>> No.11972667

>>11972243

The purpose of the sprites is to show the characters, not to be an accurate representation of her height. Think of it this way; the bottom of the picture cuts off right about at Maria's knees, whereas it cuts off at Battler's thighs. Maria would have to stand on a small stool to be literally that tall as compared to Battler

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>>11972667
speaking of that...

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>>11972866

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>>11972866

>> No.11973394

>>11972209
To be honest, there aren't many characters in Umineko who are totally "normal".

Hideyoshi is likely the only one who doesn't show odd behaviours from time to time or has some dark secrets / strange habits.

>> No.11973419

>>11973394
>Hideyoshi is likely the only one who doesn't show odd behaviours from time to time or has some dark secrets / strange habits.
Please, it's painfully obvious he enjoys BDSM and scat as a sub with Eva.

>> No.11973602

>>11972488
Autists are truly the master race.

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thick

>> No.11974815

>>11974814
oops, left part of the captcha in the wrong field...

>> No.11974827 [DELETED] 

>>11972466
;_;

Rosa had a hard life, the youngest and most beautiful Ushiromiya unmarried(?)

FUCK YOU R07 what a fucking waste ;_;

why is Rosa kill every fucking episode stop bullying her!

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>>11973201
those things are funny.

>> No.11975079

>>11975054
i don't get it, doesn't the artist know what a VN is
you put a background in the window which illustrates the ambiente, fitting music and background sounds and then you add parts of the character sprites in the front for their facial expressions together with the text.

>> No.11975091

>>11975079

I'm sure he does, Anon, but it's funny

>> No.11975099

>>11974827
Rosa was a bitch and a slut.

>> No.11975102

>>11975091
Fuck off with your spoilers.

>> No.11975116

>>11975102
Are you having fun trying to change something that people always did on 4chan?

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>>11975079
Ever heard words like "joke" or "parody"?

>> No.11975129

>>11975119
what is it trying to parody

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>>11975129

>> No.11975285
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>>11975099

Bitch okay but slut?

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>>11975099

>You will NEVER marry Rosa, ease her irritation and stress leading to her being a good mother to Maria again, eventually give Maria a little sister or brother, and live as a big happy family together

Why endure this pointless existence

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>>11975319
There is too less happy family life in Umineko.

>> No.11975510 [DELETED] 

>>11975319
Who are you quoting?

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Are your minds ready to be blown? Okay.

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>>11975568
I thought that was supposed to be a given. Like, isn't it assumed that you know about Dante's Divine Comedy before reading Umineko? At least that was my assumption with it; kinda ruined the ending a little, but that's OK.

>> No.11975585

>>11975568
What, didn't you read the divine comedy even before umineko? What are you, some kind of uncultured swine?

>> No.11975586

>>11975580
Well, I hadn't read it. I'm only 18 though.

>> No.11975590

>>11975580
>kinda ruined the ending
Um, please remember me how the divine comedy ends, I read it long ago.

>> No.11975591

>>11975585
What, is there some online guide that says "read the Divine Comedy before Umeinko"?

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>>11975580
Oh, and before I forget: Virgilia to Dante's original Virgil, also mentioned in that passage as passing off Dante to Beatrice. In addition, Beatrice is the name of the woman the the real life Dante loved but could not have, thus making an idealized and perfect version of her to lead him into glory and salvation.

In this manner, and by following this logic, the basic theme of the Battler/Beatrice Character Arc is essentially a retelling of Dante's Divine Comedy.

>>11975585
I actually did read it before, way back in Sophomore year of high-school.

>>11975590
Dante finally comes face-to-face with God (the Golden Truth), but cannot handle the all-mighty Wonder that He exuded (which is where the story diverts, as Battler could handle wielding the Golden Truth IE becoming akin to God). Realizing his humanity, and the fact that his 'Beatrice' is merely an illusion however grand and perfect, Dante returns to the mortal world an enlightened and changed man (much like how Battler returns changed, but for the worse).

>> No.11975611

>>11975600
>Battler returns changed, but for the worse.
how?

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>>11975611
Depressed, Amnesiac, and wheelchair-bound.

>> No.11975631

>>11975624
Thematically, I mean. Why does comprehending the Golden Truth ruin Battler? In your own words, what is the Golden Truth, anyway?

>> No.11975638

>>11975631
I'm not him, but the golden truth is just that: the truth. It applies to all games, and is the truth of Rokkenjima Prime.

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>>11975568
..but satan is never seen with wings or frozen in Umineko...

>> No.11975714

I want to fuck Maria.

>> No.11975725
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>>11975714
We all do.
Too bad all doujinshi about her are shit

>> No.11975750

>>11975725
There are, what, like 4 umineko doujins in the entire planet?

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>>11975750

I just want more good aunt doujins. Is that so fucking much to ask for

>> No.11975799

>>11972424
>>11972326
Autists are statistically far less likely to have violent thoughts and kill people.

This is, of course, assuming we're talking about actual autism, not "watches anime and listens to Slipknot" autism.

>> No.11975803

>>11975725
Girls blushing is the cutest thing ever, because when guys blush it's just their cheeks usually, but with girls it's a full body thing.

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>>11975774
The only aunt doujinshi I remember is the one where Battler is forced to fuck Natsuhi.

>> No.11975924

>>11975834
>tfw no 9 year old autistic occultist qtgf

>> No.11975956

>>11975799
No one here really understands the disorder. Even if they're lectured several times about it, they'll ever listen.

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>>11974814

>> No.11977599 [DELETED] 

>>11975413
>implying that con artist faggot Rudolph and psychopath fucking Kyrie deserved happiness

feel sorry for Battler and Angie having such shit parent though if they got adopted by Eva that would've been BEST END

I guess Kraus is an okay dad...Natsuhi is a bit of a bitch though can't be trusted with children that aren't hers

>> No.11977607 [DELETED] 

>>11975568
Virgilia doesn't lead Battler through hell

;_;

she is BEST WITCH (fuck off lambda fags) but had such a small presence in Umineko

>> No.11977639 [DELETED] 

Why would you ever show anyone a game that you play by yourself?

>> No.11977642 [DELETED] 

>>11977599
>>11975924
Who are you quoting?

>> No.11977643

>>11975586
I read the Divine Comedy long before being 18.

Kids these days.

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I want to lick every inch of Maria's body.

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>>11977599
Natsuhi would never throw Battler (impossible anyway) or Ange from a cliff, they are Ushiromiya family, that alone would be enough.

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>>11977563
There are many Umineko parodies featuring Rosa, it seems.

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>>11977718

>Aunt Eva

Most woefully underutilized aunt

Evatrice doesn't count

>> No.11977745

>>11975285
Single moms are huge sluts. This is an undeniable fact.

>> No.11977767

>>11977648
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0SH4SIEVXc

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>>11977767
Shit sucks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z31_TPk-0xY

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Why is Maria such a cutie?

>> No.11977856

>>11977643
Did you understand it beyond the superficial? I've avoided reading beloved classics - Shakespeare, for instance - because I recognize that at my young age I wouldn't comprehend it.

>> No.11978291

>>11977639
To discuss it.

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>>11975714
If you feel aroused while looking at a cute girl like Maria, you probably have a mental illness. Sorry.

>> No.11978432

>>11978361
Don't worry, I don't mind.

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>> No.11980313

>>11978361

>found: 0

PLEASE, ANON

PLEASE

>> No.11980365

>>11978361
Why is it wrong for a man to be aroused by a cute loli with feminine curves and a lewd personality?

>> No.11980498

>>11980313
The filename tells you exactly how to source it.

>> No.11980578

>>11980498

Gee a one page preview on Pixiv. Thanks, Anon.

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>>11980578

>> No.11980974

>>11980313
source is いえでなこ6

>> No.11981085

>>11978361
That little mini-crown is the cutest thing. I want to pluck it from her head, then make her earn it back. :)

>> No.11981092

Maria is incredibly annoying.

>> No.11981099

>>11981092
Incredibly annoyingly cute. That's why I want to embrace her and fuck her. Tenderly.

>> No.11981480

>>11980974

Right, but where do you *download* it?

I mean, thanks for *trying* I guess, but it's not exactly hard to find the name on pixiv. I just can't find a place to actually download it. I can't find a full version on pixiv or exhentai, and google just directs me to places to purchase or, or older いえでなこ books. 3 is the only one I can find a download for.

>> No.11981524

>>11981480
I was running into this as well until I gave up. Too much effort for masturbating.

>> No.11982189

>>11981480
You can't *download* it because it has never been scanned, dumbass. Now why don't you buy it and scan it for your /jp/ homies?

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>> No.11983399

>>11981480
*try* to *download* these NUTS!

>> No.11989211

In ep5, Bern says: George, Jessica, Maria, Rosa, and Genji really are dead.. But I thought everyone was just trolling Erika?

>> No.11989218

>go on the /jp/
>some shitty guy posting ps3
sprites
UGH

>> No.11989226

>>11989211
She says that after it's been explicitly stated that it's already past midnight, meaning all the bombs have already gone off so of course they're all dead. GOD! You stupid motherfucker.

>> No.11989229

>>11989226
Right, right. Thank you.

>> No.11989232

>>11989211
No, EP6 is where they attempt to troll Erika. EP5 is very bloody and cruel. Everyone thinks they are trolling Natsuhi, but they are actually being bribed by Battler, who is being tricked by Yasu into making a "fake" murder to frame on Natsuhi until she confesses.

Or that's my take on it at least. I found the blurring between ten levels of meta and the game board to be frustrating.

>> No.11989260

>>11989232
I know, right? I don't really think Battler was working with Yasu, though, as he/Bern stopped Erika from opening the closet and revealing Natsuhi.

>> No.11989280

Rosa and George did it with magic.

>> No.11989284

>>11989260
Natsuhi wasn't supposed to be caught, she was supposed to be tormented by "the child from 19 years ago" until she admitted that she pushed a baby and an old woman off a cliff.

>> No.11989289

>>11989284
Right, I see. It's been so long since I've finished Umineko and I didn't get most of it anyway...

>> No.11989302

>>11989284
Did Nast~uhi also push Satoko's parents off the cliff? Maybe Krauss was a big investor in the Hinamizawa dam project and the Houjous kept asking for money he didn't have and had to go....

>> No.11989316

>>11989302
As much as I like the idea of Higurashi's dam victory contributing to Umineko's tragedy, I still say no, that did not happen.

>> No.11989914 [DELETED] 

>>11989218
Who are you quoting?

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>> No.11993732

>The only master keys are the ones that each servant holds, one per person

This guy is saying this red truth denies ShKanon as it implies shannon and kanon are two different people. Help?

>> No.11993771

>>11993732
That statement alone doesn't imply that Shannon and Kanon are two different people, thouhg.

>> No.11993780

>>11993771
That's what I said, but he said "one per person, five keys, five persons".

>> No.11993786 [DELETED] 

>>11978361
I have kissed a young girl like this and I can tell you it is disgusting.

>> No.11993795

>>11993780
You can say that persons is a word that actually means personalities in that context.

>> No.11993801

How long will it take for the new Higurashi arc and WTC5 to get translated? I bet 18 months.

>> No.11993805

>>11993801
Hopefully I will be able to read Japanese by then

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>> No.11993833

>kanon's corpse disappears every game! shannon commits suicide in most of the games!
>red herrings
>what about episode seven? the dialogue with wills shows that...
>episode 7 is a big red herring, all of it is lies to divert you from the truth

holy shit are all rosatrice fags this delusional?

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Erika bestgirl

>> No.11994150

Is this series even worth reading? It seems like the series just goes on and on

>> No.11994192

>>11994150
It's already ended, m8.

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>>11993833
Just goes to show how much of a mind screw the show is, even when the show hands you the answers you call bullshit.

Believe it would be impossible for Rosa to commit the crimes in the 2nd episode, but she was quite obviously an accomplice. Took me three read throughs to realize she was in the chapel with the six sacrifices for the first twilight.

I can't stop rereading/watching dat 2nd episode ending. Must have read it about 20 times now. I had completely no problem with the anime up until it screwed that up.

Oh, and for making me think shannon was actually dead in the 1st game. I decided to watch the anime instead of reread 1-4 again so I could find the answers, since obviously the anime would have everything needed to solve it right? Fuck no.

>> No.11994414

>>11975079
He's probably just showing how awful the PS3 graphics for Umineko are. The original PC version doesn't have problems like this because the backgrounds aren't fucking terrible.

>> No.11994438

>>11993809
where is that from?

And why is george talking about Shannon? There is no Shannon there... just the aunts.

>> No.11994440

>>11977856
That's even worse.
The right way would be you read it at young age, then eons after that you read it again, only to discover how much you missed out when you were young, and got woefully nostalgic at the same time.

That being said, there's no excuse for being uncultured, anon.

>> No.11994684

>>11993809
a parody? and even translated? Is there more of that?

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>>11994414

>the [original] backgrounds aren't fucking terrible.

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Anyone have an idea of when the next When They Cry will be?

All I have heard is someone say 'probably summer 2014'.

Too bad with how cold it is winter is never going to end.

>> No.11995705

>>11995521
Probably summer Comiket. Isn't that where he released everything else?

>> No.11995716

>>11995521
Summer 2014 is for the new Higurashi arc. WTC5 is after that, I think.

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>> No.11996534

>>11995716

Do we really need a new Higurashi arc? Is anyone calling for this?

Other than seeing what happens to the characters 10 years from the end of the last arc, I don't know that I want more Higurashi.

Other than seeing the characters happy or just living their lives, I don't really have the desire to see anything else.

They fought hard and earned their happy ending. Is there a reason to show us more?

WTC5 however is going to be exciting. R07's writing has gotten a lot better and we now know that he isn't necessarily going to give us the happiest ending possible...

>> No.11996537

Did the Umineko plot ever reach a conclusion?

>> No.11996591

>>11996537
why would anyone care it stopped being interesting after part 5

>> No.11996594

>>11996591
Thats my point, it sort of peaked with Erika and then it went downhill with Lion.

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>>11996594
Episode 7 wasn't that interesting, mostly because it was for answers. It got better the further you got into it though.

I always thought it was interesting how Will was basically the intelligent readers as a character.

The tea party for episode 7 made up for the drag in my opinion.

And then 8 was good, slow start, but it showed Musou Rosa again and that is all Umineko needs to do to make me happy. Plus the scenario with Bernkastel and and the riddles were interesting.

>> No.11996948

>>11996534
The new arc is final proof of antifantasy and primarily deals with Rika and Nevada-tan's adventures in an insane asylum.

Rumor has it a new character is introduced: perhaps someone to replace her pet rock Hanyuu.

>> No.11996963

>>11996948
>implying rika wasn't the pet rock

>> No.11996978

>>11996963
Too avant garde for my taste. I'll stick with classical antifantasy.

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>>11996537

Yeah, with EP8.

>> No.11997405

>>11996963
Please don't misuse the quoting function.

>> No.11997619

>>11996978
I'll only accept this if she shares a room with Miyoko and bullies the other patients with her.

>> No.11998042 [DELETED] 

Does /jp/ want to see cute little Heidi naked?

http://www.pideo.net/video/nicovideo/f13f4bc6309d181c/

I wonder how Japan manages to get away with this. It's amazing.

>> No.11998045 [DELETED] 

>>11998042
>naked
>being this autistic

>> No.11998071

>>11972209
Jesus christ, what's wrong with their hands?

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>>11993833
>kanon's corpse disappears every game! shannon commits suicide in most of the games
Except it doesn't. Kanon's corpse only vanished in ep 2 and 4 Shannon only commits suicide at ep2 which is confirmed by Battler.
The bigger red herring is Lambda's mention that when one dies, the other vanishes, which is an almost sure confirmation that they are one and the same.
Ep 1, Shannon ''dies'' yet Kanon stays alive but later dies (fakes being dead but whatever).
Ep 2, Kanon ''dies'' yet Shannon stays alive and later dies.
Ep 3, both of them die at the start.
Ep 4, both die at the same time
Ep 5, neither of them die.

Nowhere is it possible to notice that when one dies, the other one immediately vanishes, like Lambda suggest.
There is no way to interpret it other than a red herring or as a literal fashion that never actually happens anyone in any of the games.

Also, after all the murders are completed, Beatrice revives.
If Shannon dies, like she does in ep 2, she cannot meet Battler dressed as Beatrice.

Ep 3 also makes no sense considering that Maria plainly states that if anyone finds the gold, the game automatically ends, no matter if Yasu knows about it or not. Beatrice herself says that risk is needed for magic to happen. If there is no risk, there is no magic. So if someone finds the gold and the murders continue, it defeats the purpose of a risk. Not to mention Beatrice wants to get caught which is why she taunts people to find the gold. Yasu would have noticed Eva and Rosa leaving the family housing if everyone was camped there. It's stupid to suggest that Yasu was not keeping an eye on the only building where everyone was at and didn't notice two adults leaving one after another.

And if it was Eva that killed everyone, it brings forward the web of red truth by Eva on who killed Nanjo is Yasu stops killing.
Not to mention the first twilight of ep 3 being impossible for Shannon to get into the Chapel and lock the door from the inside using the chapel key.

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>>11996534
>Do we really need a new Higurashi arc? Is anyone calling for this?
The Higurashi arc will focus on Hanyuu's clan apparently.

Rika mentions in Higurashi that Hanyuu's clan came to Hinamizawa a long time ago which drove the villagers paranoid. Hanyuu changed the way she looked but only kept the horns. So it's likely that she didn't look human at all. Rika also says that no one knows how they got there, be it by ship, traveling through dimensions or some other unknown way. So there may be some truth to the alien conspiracy by Takano but it might just be a coincidence.

I wouldn't be surprised if we get mention that Hanyuu's clan came from the M37 cluster in the next Higurashi arc and one of the locations in the next WtC takes place in the M37 cluster with characters mentioning that old gods or aliens lived here or something. And that they are cursing the place.

Not to mention possibly seeing the gang again would be great.

>> No.11999007

>>11998333
The bigger question raised by that screencap is this: how did Maria know what Battler was thinking with enough accuracy to give a correct answer to a question posed by his inner monologue? But it's obvious, isn't it? This is all explained in my Mariatrice audiobook. Battler is furniture/an imaginary friend, originally made by Ange and taken from her when she got expelled.

>> No.11999051

>>11998349
Weren't there already a few NDS arcs about Hanyuu and her backstory? Is this going to be original or just a port?

>> No.11999089

>>11998349
Wasn't there a bonus arc in the PSP port (...???) where Hanyuu was a jedi alien or some shit? Most of the bonus arcs present in the ports aren't canon (as in not written by Ryukishi himself) by the way.

If Hanyuu really did come from outer space then I guess she's an ancient alien then.

>> No.11999121

>>11999007
I always assumed whenever shit like that happen that the people in the story were discussing thing and you just didn't see every word mostly.

Or unreliable narrator.

>> No.11999556

>>11998333
The "game will be over" because Battler will remember her and she won't need to kill anybody. Maria is mistaken, and Yasu didn't account for someone finding it and keeping it a secret. Maria is not the ultimate source of game mechanics.

EP1 - Shannon's corpse is never directly seen. It is disputable whether this means it vanishes, but it cannot be confirmed to exist. Two corpses, one for Shannon and one for Kanon, are NOT confirmed to exist.

EP2: Kanon kills Jessica, and then is never seen again (from the detective, objective viewpoint). Two corpses, one for Shannon and one for Kanon, are NOT confirmed to exist.

Ep 3: Shannon fakes being dead (this is debatably confirmed when she opens her eyes for George) and then rushes to the Chapel. She can have Genji or someone lock it for her. Furthermore, Will says that "the end and beginning of a snake overlap", meaning that Kanon and Shannon are the same. Two corpses, one for Shannon and one for Kanon, are NOT confirmed to exist.

Ep4: Who the fuck knows what happened in Ep4. However, Kanon "fell down the well" and his corpse is never confirmed to exist. Two corpses, one for Shannon and one for Kanon, are NOT confirmed to exist.

Ep5: No deaths, except maybe Krauss.

Ep6: Shannon disappearing from George's room is a big hint that she was never in there at all.

Do you really think it's a coincidence or red herring that in every game their corpses are never seen together, or proven to exist at the same time? With methods so contrived as a gate covering Kanon's corpse and Beatrice "disappearifying" his corpse?

>> No.11999672

>>11999556
>Maria is not the ultimate source of game mechanics.
Expect it's wrong since Beatrice says in red a few moments after that ''it's true, I keep my promises, if there's one thing you can trust about me, it's this''. She keeps her promise not to kill anyone if the gold is found.
Again, there needs to be risk for magic. Beatrice herself says so. It's a gamble. She wants to kill people but it stops if people find the gold. That's the game and she told Maria.Meta Beatrice encomposes all Beatrice, including Yasu, it's truthful.
I'd get the cap where she says it in red but I'm on a different computer

Also, talking to other people about the gold is irrelevant.
What purpose is there in having the family tell each other that they found the gold? It's completely stupid except to forward the explanation for why Yasu continued the murders. Because she didn't know, she can continue to kill.
After the servants were found dead, the family bunkered down in the family guest house. A small guest house. Not the mansion.
After Eva figures it out, Rosa follows her and both find the gold and then go back to the hose..What purpose does Eva and Rosa have to keep the secret to themselves if Shannon is not even in the damn house to monitor them?
Are you saying that there is more chances of Shannon somehow getting into the small family guest house, hiding and waiting until someone says that they found the gold, but impossible to notice from the outside two adults walking towards the chapel?
Shannon has nothing to do after the first twilight and everyone is in a single location. She just has to wait for a chance to kill someone and the entire fucking family that is either in the same room or in the cousin room watching TV.
How in the world did Shannon miss two adults leaving the guest house? Was she busy in the mansion? Why wasn't she keeping an eye on them? What a load of
convenience. How hard is it to keep an eye on an entire house, either from the inside or the outside?

>> No.11999689

>>11994390
I should have never watched the anime, it really hurt my understanding of Umineko, damn that crap.
The voices are the only good, but they didnt make cd dramas like with Higurashi.

>> No.11999694

>>11999556
>Do you really think it's a coincidence or red herring that in every game their corpses are never seen together, or proven to exist at the same time?
I'd wager it's a red herring but not a coincidence. I'd go so far to say that it's impossible to actually see or have both of them in the same room at all. The game itself doesn't allow it.
Shannon and Kanon not appearing in the same room is very like to be rule Z.
Similar to the three XYZ rules in Higurashi, Umineko has the same rules as the culprit is given a wish by Lambda. Hints of the rules are detailed by Bernkastel's in her diary in the TIPS.

In ep 7, when Will sees Shannon and asks if she can bring Kanon here with Shannon so they can solve the mystery together. Shannon acts all creepy and says that ''a higher power is telling her to say that it's impossible''. It's like telling your opponent that he would go in checkmate the next move. It's either the author/Featherine or the game itself refusing the possibility of the two of them coming together.
If Shannon and Kanon are one and the same, wouldn't it be a checkmate for Shannon since she would Yasu, not Will's checkmate? Either way, the point I'm making is that Shannon and Kanon absolutely cannot be placed in a room together or the universe itself might shut down. Breaking one of the rules is something that cannot be done, it is needed to have the Umineko gameboard stable.
The presence of Kanon and Shannon being one body or different is a catbox by rule Z.
For example, what if Kanon did come out and got together with Shannon in front of Will? It would break the catbox as it would have been open.
Or if we find out that they are both a single person? Whether the answer goes one side or another, we cannot have both of them together other than in front of servants or in a meta scene. Forcing the issue makes the game crash, like it almost did for Will, or it simply doesn't happen.

>> No.11999716

>>11999556
>Shannon fakes being dead (this is debatably confirmed when she opens her eyes for George) and then rushes to the Chapel. She can have Genji or someone lock it for her. Furthermore, Will says that "the end and beginning of a snake overlap", meaning that Kanon and Shannon are the same. Two corpses, one for Shannon and one for Kanon, are NOT confirmed to exist.

Genji cannot lock the door for Shannon.
Let's illustrate the scene of the first Twilight in ep3.
The family breaks into the family parlor and finds Shannon. They find the key and go in the loop which ends with the Chapel and find Kanon. The Chapel is found to be locked. Genji could not have happened since he's dead, Shannon needed to do this on her own. The family went together from room to room so no one can help her lock the door.

Not only that but only the key to the Chapel can lock the door of the Chapel. It says so in red.
Not to mention the red that says that there aren't any autolock. Irrelevant but it just means that you need to lock the door with a key from the outside.

So Shannon had to go from the Parlor, into the Chapel and somehow lock the door of the Chapel with the Chapel key. How is that possible? Not to mention the Chapel key is found in the Boiling room which is also locked. No one else has a key other than Shannon and the family kept the keys on them when they went from room to room.
Shannon had to lock the door of the Chapel from the inside using the Chapel key and somehow have the Chapel key placed into the Boiler room.

We know that the Chapel was locked since it fits within the other rooms that Beatrice dubbed ''Beatrice's closed room definition''. It would not be like the other rooms if it was not locked.
And the answer to how it happened was confirmed by Ryukishi to be what Battler said since he made such an overcomplicated puzzle and laughed at giving the solution for all the trouble the culprit did to move the bodies. Someone placed the key onto Kanon and faked the loop.

>> No.11999874

Static Accomplices: Kumasawa, Nanjo, Genji, Maria (sort of).

Ep 1 Accomplices: Eva and Hideyoshi. After being blackmailed into concealing Yasu's existence they meet with Yasu and are killed by Yasu.

Ep 2 Accomplices: Rosa and Gohda. Used to conceal Yasu's identity, Shannon commits suicide after murder to create the final closed room. Genji, Battler, Rosa, and Maria are all killed by the explosion.

>>11999716
Ep 3 Accomplices: Kyrie and Rudolf. They assist in the creation of the closed room loop in Ep3, (the first hint that they are the accomplices is that Kyrie conspicuously notices the faint smell of the burning corpse before anyone else, when it's barely noticeable) leading the group from the first room all the way up to the top and then all the way to the chapel as ordered. The solution to all problems involving the chapel lock is that the door is never actually locked, the people who open it always pretend it is locked, that's why the wording in the red truth is always "when the door is locked". It's never said in red that the thing is actually locked, which is a stupid trick, but I fell for it and immediately assumed it was locked. The closed room definition does not include actually being locked (that has to be stated separately as is the case in episode 2).

After Eva finds the gold she conspires with Hideyoshi. She kills Rosa and Maria while Hideyoshi provides an alibi for her. Rudolf and Kyrie kill Hideyoshi, Eva kills them, George is also either killed by them or is killed by Yasu. Yasu realizes that the gold has been found along with the card. She then leaves the numbers (the pin for the card) inscribed on the wall. Eva uses the numbers post-escape which is how she gets the fortune.

>> No.11999916

>>11999874
EP3 accomplices are Krauss and Natsuhi. Krauss was the one to suggest breaking a window, when usually he and Natsuhi would throw a fit and threaten to tell Kinzo they were breaking their shit. Kyrie suspects Eva so maneuvers to get Hideyoshi alone to interrogate him, Eva shows up and kills them, and they are dead. Since N&K were the accomplices, Yasu lured them out and killed them. Nanjo locks the door behind them. George sees Yasu, in fantasy this becomes Beato flying him out the window to find Shannon. Nanji again locks the door. When Battler ask about he he says "well shit I guess it was magic", which Battler blows off instantly. Yasu kills George and Nanjo, then does the same resurrection act for Jessica and hides her far away from Eva.

>> No.11999972

>>11999916

Hmm, yeah, your explanation is better. Plus it makes more sense for them to be the accomplices since they would be best at setting up their own house.

>> No.12000203

>>11999916
Why does Eva kill Hideyoshi?

>> No.12000257

>>12000203
My fault for being unclear, but I'll go with it.

Maybe Eva killed Hideyoshi on accident. That is why she was so panicky with very little anger when she ran back to get Nanjo. It also explains why her sanity went away and she confessed to being the culprit.

Or maybe they got in a fight about her wasting Rudolf and Kyrie when they were all peacefully getting food. She does have bad luck with having her gun "accidentally" go off in someone's face or otherwise murdering them while mad.

Or maybe she was responsible because she started the gunfight when she showed up.

Or maybe it was a mercy killing. Kyrie was breaking his teeth off with a pair of pliers while Rudolf stripped skin off his body and cauterized it with the cigarette that Kyrie had in her pocket. (Battler assumed the wounds came from being tortured by the Americandies during his smuggling days and didn't mention it).

Or maybe Beatrice did it with magic.

>> No.12000425

>>11995716
Thought Ryukishi was done with the Higurashi series. Nigga really milking that series hard.

I can't wait for WTC5 tho given it's supposed to be like a space opera.

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>tfw you will never be able to eat Maria

>> No.12000468

>>12000450
As long as I can eat her armpit cheese I'm good.

>> No.12000514

>>12000450
Even if I could eat an aged Maria I would have no interest.

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>>11999874
>They assist in the creation of the closed room loop in Ep3, (the first hint that they are the accomplices is that Kyrie conspicuously notices the faint smell of the burning corpse before anyone else, when it's barely noticeable)
I call bullshit since the body does smell to a certain, being able to tell something smell weird is not a legitimate call for suspicion. But whatever.

>the room was simply not locked
Again, all 6 rooms which contain the chain loop are considered a Beatrice closed room.
This includes the Chapel.
It absolutely includes all the doors being locked.

I have no idea why you're saying that the Chapel was not closed when Beatrice herself says that all 6 rooms were closed.
If the door was not locked, then it would not be considered a closed room by Beatrice's definition.
Again, all 6 doors are locked. There is no exception.
To assume it was not locked, like with ep 2, is poor sport by simply reusing the same trick.

>After Eva finds the gold she conspires with Hideyoshi. She kills Rosa and Maria while Hideyoshi provides an alibi for her. Rudolf and Kyrie kill Hideyoshi, Eva kills them, George is also either killed by them or is killed by Yasu. Yasu realizes that the gold has been found along with the card. She then leaves the numbers (the pin for the card) inscribed on the wall. Eva uses the numbers post-escape which is how she gets the fortune.

Cute but it runs into the problem on how Nanjo was killed at the end, if we agree that Yasu stopped her murders we the gold was found.
Considering how you explained the murders without using Yasu, I follow that you agree that Yasu stopped killing.

But after Krauss and Natsuhi are found dead, Battler is with Eva the entire time.
It becomes impossible for Eva to kill Nanjo. We fall into the web of red again and it becomes impossible to pin Eva at the end.
Eva is not the main culprit as it is another hand at work and it isn't Yasu as she, following the laws of her own game, stopped killing.

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>>11999672
>>11998333
>I'd get the cap where she says it in red but I'm on a different computer
Ah, there we go, I knew I had it somewhere.

>>11999916
>Krauss was the one to suggest breaking a window, when usually he and Natsuhi would throw a fit and threaten to tell Kinzo they were breaking their shit.
I'm pretty sure it was Rudolf who suggests to break a window and does it.
Not to mention they see all the weird circles of blood everywhere and don't have keys to open them. With all the servants mysteriously disappearing and crap, it's quite understandable for the family to resort to at least break the windoe. I don't see what is suspicious about suggesting the idea of breaking a window when weird shit is happening.
Hell, Ryukishi even states in the interview that the location of the Parlor was deliberate.
Kurasawa and Godha (or was it Genji?) being on the second floor of the mansion. Kinzo being in the Boiler room. There is really no where else to get into other than break the Parlor. It's purposefully placed to be the single possible entry point since it's on a ground level and with windows.

I mean, if you woke up, found all your servants mysteriously vanished and found weird bloody circles on random doors around your house, would you just remain calm and not try to understand what happened?

>yasu luring them out and killed them all one by one
Funny story.
It's like Yasu doesn't give a damn about people solving the epitaph or anything.

>>12000728
the body smells to a certain extent*

>> No.12000760,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>12000468
Speaking of "cheese", I've discovered through research that lolis very often have smegma around their clits, and sometimes on the clit under the hood. Supposedly it's sometimes difficult to get off and it's required that a q-tip be used to help remove it.

Can you imagine rubbing a loli's clit with a q-tip? I bet the skin that was covered by the smegma is incredibly sensitive. It probably feels amazing.

>> No.12000770

>>12000760
>non-ironically playing with PS3 sprites

>> No.12000777

>>12000770
That's tumblr for you.

>> No.12000779

>>12000770
I read it with the original and then reread it with the PS3 sprites along with the voice patch when it came out. So I took caps of anything I found important while on my reread.
My arguments still stands as the text is still the same.

>> No.12000779,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>12000760,1
vaginas are lewd
lolis are lewd too
loli vaginas are incredibly lewd god damn

>> No.12001589

>>12000770
Fuck off.

>> No.12002052

Erika seems pretty autistic.

>> No.12002056

How can I fuck Maria?

>> No.12002058

>>12002056
Combine sucking items with magic and you're golden.

>> No.12002062

>>12002056
You need to piss on fire for magical breeding power.

>> No.12002095

>>12002056
You need to catch a magical Gohda chef

>> No.12002276

>>12002056
Rosa usually sells her daughter off to strange men for about $2000/night.

>> No.12002290

>>12002056
Give her candy and tell her you can preform magic.

>> No.12002295

>>12002058
>>12002062
>>12002095
>>12002276
>>12002290
Thanks guys, I'm gonna try all of that.
I hope one of you is right, because I really want to fuck that little sweet ass.

>> No.12002303

>>12002295
You can always get Beatrice to promise you that you can fuck Maria.
She never breaks her promises and she seems to have special connections with Maria. Possibly sexual connections?

>> No.12002303,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>12002295
I've written some naughty shit about her, but I can't post it because I'm permabanned for posting that perfectly legal Heidi commercial. This is bullshit.

>> No.12002485

>>11972209
What color crayon does Maria's pussy smell.

>> No.12002487

>>12002485
Charcoal gray crayon.

>> No.12002489

>>12002487
The correct answer is yellow like piss.

>> No.12002730

>>12002295
Please do not perform anal sex on Maria. Leave the impure things for Rika.

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>>12002730
>Leave the impure things for Rika.
Not a good idea.

Plus Maria likely lost her purity to open a gate to hell with one of her rituals or something.
Or Kinzo merged with her in some fashion.

>> No.12002751

Erika/Maria OTP

>> No.12002764

>>12002738
I play anti-fantasy and deny all of that!

Or at least reduce it to Kinzo molesting her. He doesn't care about meaningful consent, but he strikes me as a vagina guy, which damages purity very little compared to anal.

On the other hand, Rika obviously wants a cock in her ass so bad it physically causes her pain.

>> No.12002828

>>11972424
>>11972209
>>11972326
>>11989218
>>11993833
>>11996963
>>12000770
>>12000450
Who you greenin, brah?

>> No.12003058

>>12002751
Erika has someone to abuse, and Maria will have someone to fool herself into thinking loves her! And they can fight all the time with red and blue over fantasy and anti-fantasy then about mystery and anti-mystery. The innocent loli who creates demons, an evil girl who controls angels, a match made in both heaven and hell! Much greater than blue and red flames, no greater greater has darkened the face of the multiverse since Bern and Lambda first met.

Not really. Either Maria would be dead in ten minutes or Bern would throw Erika back into oblivion. You're an idiot if you think this would ever work.

>> No.12004449

Why didn't Krauss just buy a helicopter?

>> No.12004916

>>12004449
I always wondered this.

They had a private jet I think right? And he built the guesthouse so a helipad wouldn't be too hard. Though you would need a pilot on staff maybe.

Oh yeah, wouldn't have mattered. Hurricane. But still he should have had one.

>> No.12007635

So who would have won the fight between Bern and Lambda.

>> No.12007839

>>12007635
Lambda is way more powerful
>the witch of miracles
>"even though i'm the witch of miracles, miracles can never happen there's no such thing"
she straight up admits her "power" is bullshit
Lambda is the witch of certainty if she says she can beat Bern guess fucking what? it will CERTAINLY happen

>> No.12007910

>>12007839
I want to agree with this, just because she <hip>, <pop>, and <cute> while Bern is a terrible monster who profains the image of Rika, but I think it's more complicated.

Look through the story and Bern did not accomplish a single one of her goals (beaten by Battler nonetheless; a fact that will always shame her), and the only time she ever came close was when she had Auau~'s help. Lambda managed to both help Beato succeed and kill her, despite those being contradictory goals. Ange remarks that Lambda was on a whole different level than Bern and Beato. Also, Lambda's game board was very challenging, while Bern thought Battler was close with the small bombs theory. I mention the logic skills because the fight was made up of throwing universes at each other, and we can only assume that they are fighting over the details in this.

But on the other hand, the longer the game goes on, Bern's chance of winning only goes up. Until then she just has to get a stalemate at the least. Another thing Bern has in her advantage is autism. She has no problem doing exhaustive searches of the sea of fragments to find worlds just to enact petty revenge. Lambda doesn't do this even once. Bern retrieves Battler's body, finds Ange, finds Erika, finds the path to the gold, finds Lion out of a millions of worlds.... The only time Lambda leaves is to go raid Featherine's library. She isn't cut out for that kind of tedium. She lost to an 11yo who played the waiting game without even knowing it until she gave up. Lambda is far out of her league here.

>> No.12007912

continued >>12007910
Honestly, it seems like all of that should be reversed though. Fate should carry out plans that require mindnumbingly long times and huge amounts of work for tiny payoffs while luck should perform tiny actions that have large results. And yet, Bern is the one who plans a kidnapping, then to turn Ange, then ... and Lambda is the one who ensures Beato has a shot by throwing a popcorn at Dlanor. But then again, every other story I've ever read had luck as the good guy and fate as the bad, so any change of those roles would seem off to me.

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>>12007912
It goes both ways, I guess.

It is also Lion's fate to die in the parlor(?) with a bullet in their head. Even the Witch of Miracles does not see a happy ending for them, and yet they manage one with Will somehow anyway.

In this instance Fate is cruel and Miracles happen.

I do like Bern's definition of a miracle though. A miracle is something that can't happen, and then happens anyway.

Also just started watching Higurashi and I can't fucking believe she is Rika.

>> No.12008779

>>12008665
She's not Rika. She is the amalgation of all the bad ends Rika has gone through.

>> No.12008991

>>12007910
>Bern is a terrible monster who profains the image of Rika, but I think it's more complicated.
Without love, it cannot be seen

>> No.12009188

>>12007839
>>12007910
>>12007912
Battler is better at forcing miracles than Bern. That makes Bern a loooooooooseeeer that needs to be puuuuuunisheeed and diiiiiiieeeeeee!

>> No.12010112

>>12008991
But I do love Bern! I love her in the same way one might love a family member who turned into a junkie after a tragedy. She could be beautiful, but she cannot stop herself from being ugly. I want to understand her hurt and make her know that I do, but I never could truly do that, and anyway, she wouldn't accept it. Why, Bernkastel, why have you taken this destructive path of cruelty? You have in you the capacity to love and beautiful dreams, this is obvious from your origin. What will it take to make you realize that? Tormenting doesn't make you happy; it only relieves your boredom. You might as well be dead completely, because that's what you are inside, Bern, dead. A broken shell of what you once were. No matter how much power you accumulate or how much you wreck shit will ever fill the hole in your heart.

>> No.12010126

>>11975956
*condition/way of thought

>> No.12010129

>>11973602
yesh!

>> No.12010134

>>11975116
the post is delete, so yes he is having fun

>> No.12010138

>>11975139
answer him faggot

>> No.12010802

>>12010126
>Mental disorder: A behavioral or psychological pattern associated with distress or disability that occurs in an individual and is not a part of normal development or culture.

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Oh, don't mind me guys. I'm just standing around in the middle of the tragedy.
Please ignore the fact that I'm the only human presented in the whole story with the means to get into Rokkenjima. Yeah, I have been working like all of my life in this place, I knew about the secret mansion and probably about Beatrice II too. I definitely never found the military base entrance and the gold, even if my only job is to drive this damn boat. Yep, I'm pretty innocent.

I would also be glad if you could forget about EP8's trick end. Yeah, that scene in which Ange kills an innocent boat driver (yours truly) just after reading the truth from her Auntie's book. Notice how this murder was completely unnecessary and it even leaves her with no sure way to go back. You know what would be pretty funny? Ange actually managing to fulfill her revenge and then killing herself, but R07 would never do something like that, right?

Remember, you didn't see my sprites until EP4 or so. I'm pretty sure Knox 1st completely denies me as the culprit, even if we were already shown a similar wordplay with Van Dine 11th. Anyway, a pleasure to meet you guys, I gotta polish a few gold bars before selling them at the black market.

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>>12011593
>Kuwabatatrice
Is this seriously a thing?

>> No.12011717

>>11972243
Otherwise her head would be around Battler's waist.

heh.

>> No.12011763

>>12011593
Doesn't really explain Ange gunning down Juuza, too.

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>> No.12011788

>>12011650
Charon did it with magic.

>>12011763
He talked too much.

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>>12011788
Not too much, just the wrong things..

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Never gets old. http://youtu.be/INE5I82zdW0

>> No.12014394

Wait a sec. I made it to the tenth twilight, but there was no Beatrice?
Everyone died and Battler didn't make it to the "Golden Land"?
Was I just trolled? Do I have to play the second episode?

>> No.12014599

>>12014394
ruseman pls

>> No.12014663

>>12014599
I played both of the Tea Parties, I get it all now, nevermind.
Though I started the second one and I hope it picks up soon.

>> No.12014686

>>12014663
>I hope

>> No.12014738

>>12014663
You might as well stop now. It only gets progressively worse from here on in. EP3 had a pretty strong finale, but it's all downhill after that.

>> No.12014742

>>12014738
Sheeit son
>>12014686
Well, I'm not exactly interested in George and Shannon, the two least interesting characters.

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>1:42 AM - [x]: speak to me when you can accept that you are wrong to think you are right

Rosatrice, not even one.

>> No.12015014

>>12014394
Here's something to keep in mind while reading: Always trust Bern. Very important. If I were you, I'd write ATB on the back of my hand in paint marker, so you never forget.

>> No.12015018

>>12015014
She's kinda boring to me. Beato is funner, though I can't say I disagree with Battler's point of view on everything.

>> No.12015524

> not liking the awesome finale of the first episode with bring the fate


go suck a bed pls

>> No.12015563

>>12014742
>Well, I'm not exactly interested in the two culprits, the two least interesting characters.
>>12015018
>The true heroine of the game's kinda boring to me.
nigga r u 4 real

>> No.12015743

>>12014738
There is it again.

That stupid opinion.

>>12014742
Don't pay attention to him, you are in for a wild ride until the very end. It has its weak points, like every other long piece of fiction, but overall it's very good.

>> No.12015758

>>12015563
She's a cruel witch dude, Battler is right. Why does she want to prove herself to him so much?

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>>12015743
>but m-muh opinion

>> No.12015952

>>12015883
Learn to take screencaps.

Also
>78, 75, 80, 80, 75, 74, 78, 55
How's that a downhill? Just the last episode wasn't well received, probably because people was expecting to get spoonfeeded answers for everything, even though the episode itself was really good.

On top of that, who the fuck cares about japs' opinions, even if it were representative enough and not just an internet minority? Fuck them to hell.

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>>12015952
is being retard suffering?

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>>12015996
Oh, you are going tough, uh little boy?

Then hear this: when you make statistics of any kind, you take out the max and the min values from the set, which are rare values and only serve to contaminate the sample.

The correct chart should be like this, no need to thank me.

Also, epic troll screencap m8, now go back to parroting everything people says on the internets.

>> No.12016713

>>12016698
>when you make statistics of any kind, you take out the max and the min values from the set
That's not how outliers work.

lrn2standarddeviation

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>>12016698
get a load of this sperg

>> No.12016764

>>12015952
Butthurt faggot detected.

By EP8, Ryukishi had wrote himself into a corner and said "Fuck it all!" in the end. Some things were obvious from the get-go, like crippled hobo Battler ending or some other character was writing the story (while simultaneously breaking the fourth wall), but a lot of authors in fiction tend to forget to that execution is a very important aspect of writing. Ryukishi's delivery was horrible and rushed.

There's a reason why Umineko is considered the Code Geass of VNs. The core arcs have some sort direction but it all goes down the shitter past EP5--or arguably EP4 with the introduction of Ange. Umineko is also very entry-level tier.

inb4
>goat, pls leave

>> No.12016775

>>12016764
*some sort of direction

>> No.12016784

>>12015743
>>12015952
>>12016698
That was a bit meta, but thanks for making my point for me: only retards like Umineko beyond EP3.

>> No.12016785

>show autistic cousin /jp/
>she thinks janitor was the autistic one and notices nothing odd about the shitposters

fucking autists, man.

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>>12016764
Awesome opinions man.

>> No.12016886

>>12015743
>fiction
Could you be any more of a stupid goat?

>> No.12016915

>>12016764
>There's a reason why Umineko is considered the Code Geass of VNs. The core arcs have some sort direction but it all goes down the shitter past EP5--or arguably EP4 with the introduction of Ange. Umineko is also very entry-level tier.

That's a poor comparison, considering both of them do have an obvious underlying direction despite the craziness and in particular Umineko does infodump explanations for almost everything that you would want to know (other than spelling out the definitive version of what happened in the real world, but they told us the details, excessively even).

>> No.12016925

>>12016915

Some people are still butthurt about not being spoonfed the solution in exquisite detail when the narrative literally beats you over the head with the fact it's not important to know this.

>> No.12016926

>>12016764

>hating Ange

>> No.12016935

>>12016925
Breaking news, people are like spoiled kids, specially regarding free entertainment media.

>> No.12016961

>>12016786

Nigga I can't even read this chart.

>> No.12016974

>>12016935
If you haven't bought WTC1-4 yet then you are a parasite who hates Rika and Maria and believe in evil things like anti-fantasy Higurashi and Rosatrice.

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>>12016961
You can't just read it, you must DESIRE it.

>> No.12016990

>>12016974
I'm not buying media that I have to patch to hell and back to be able to use.

We'll talk about buying when they import the game into my country with PS3 sprites, translation and voices by default.

>> No.12017003

>>12016990
>PS3 sprites, translation and voices by default.
You are despicable human trash who belongs on tumblr. Please die and never read anything again.

>> No.12017008

Which seacat gives the best footjob?

>> No.12017020

>>12017003
Shut your mouth, autist.

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>>12016990
>PS3 sprites

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>>12017082
Getting voice acting with the original sprites is too difficult.

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>>12017090

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>>12017175
Is it wrong that she makes me masochistic?

>> No.12018457

>>12017563
>she
Your waifu has (had) a penis,
faggot.

>> No.12018487

>>12018457
My waifu is Beato, not Yasu.

>> No.12018496

>>12000760
>Kurasawa and Godha
Can we get some posts from someone who didn't first read all of Umineko yesterday and then watch all the Rosatrice videos.

>I'm pretty sure it was Rudolf who suggests to break a window and does it.
It's Rudolf/Krauss depending on anime/VN, I can't remember which is which. What does this mean? That it doesn't matter who it was.

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>>12017563
beato's pet ending was the best ending

>> No.12021388

>>12018487
You can't have one without the other. Battler cannot have Beato without also taking Yasu, hence the endless games to make him figure it out.

If you think you can, then you have ignored her heart.

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>>12018514
I beg to differ.

>> No.12021652

Post more fanarts !

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>>12021652

>> No.12021878

>>12021551
What the fuck is wrong with that Battler? Did Beato turn him into a a giant stretch of skin and hair? Are we seeing Battler being flattened into a rub on a transparent floor? Who is shouting ゴゴ?

>> No.12021882

>>12017563
No, any girl with the slightest bit of assertive traits makes me a masochistic sub too.

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>> No.12022723

What if Battler came back and started flirting and hitting on Kanon? Would Beatrice present herself as Viator to him followed by a bunch of fag BDSM?

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>> No.12023838

anyone believing in rosatrice?

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>>12023838
Rosatrice is the best witch

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Those thighs, Jesus fuck

>> No.12023925

>>12023838
I really hope no one believes in that crap unironically.

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>>12023838
We all know it's time-travelling-Angetrice.

>> No.12023976

Has /jp/ gotten slower than before? I just came back and damn, almost one month on this thread.

>> No.12024004 [DELETED] 

>>12023976

It is slower, for a number of reasons, in general it is slower because the janny is a faget and deletes legit /jp/ content, which people have gotten tired of and left.

It is also more particularly slower on weekends, because /jp/ is filled with normies and crossies now that are out partying on weekends.

>> No.12024162

What are the top 5 remix albums for Umineko?

>> No.12024189

>>12024004
>legit /jp/ content

>> No.12024360

>>12024004
Read: all the random shit people kept spamming /jp/ with is actually deleted now.

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>>12024360

Yes, exactly, and because of this and /jp/ being more slow and dead than it ever was, people go to other boards as well, thus creating more crossies.

Also, you do realize don't you that /jp/ was created for all the "random" content that was flooding /a/ right? This is the purpose of this board.

>> No.12024393

>>12024376
2/3s the purpose of /jp/ has returned to /a/ or gone to /vg/.

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For anyone who hasn't read Umineko, just read it and decide for yourself if it is good or not. I don't understand all these people trying to convince everyone else that the show gets shittier/is shit. I really don't.

Go to any VN community and ask them for recommendations and Umineko will be right near the top more often than not, and it is there for a reason. And yeah the 8th episode got shit ratings (actually 55/100 is still above average), but not because it was bad. Some people just hated the answers when they finally got them.

Personally I kind of wish I had read the entire thing a bit slower, I finished it a few months ago and had nothing to stop me from blowing through it all at once except for the extremely long time it takes to read it all. By the start of episode 7 I had two theories on who Beatrice was and still had not figured out that both were right. Dat unreliable narrator man. If I had a month between each episode I know I could have solved it by episode 5 at the very latest. I did solve the epitaph in episode 5 though, despite not knowing how to read japanese.

Also I would say it is worth downloading it at least for the music alone. I have a playlist with many of my favorite tracks from Umineko and I have a lot of favorites. Aci-L, Dream End Discharger, Mirage Coordinator, Mortal Stampede, Rahu Goldenslaughterer, Red Dread, Rougoku, System0, Golden Nocturne, Final Answer, Liberated Liberator, LixAxil, Executioner, a few with japanese names I can't read, and of course the greatest one ever, World End Dominator.

My friend wanted to get into visual novels and looked for a place to start, this chart was apparently on the reddit for VNs. Before I saw this thread I would have suggested he check out /jp/ instead but you all have convinced me otherwise.

>> No.12024531

>>12024511
Too bad half the fun of reading was discussing it online an sharing theories (notice there is a link in the game for the japs to go discuss). The only places still doing that are /jp/, Tumblr, and maybe animesuki. You can either deal with a few trolls or go hang out with the feminists or the role players.

>> No.12024652

>>12023976
A few months ago I saw a JAV thread that was almost a year old.

>> No.12024711

>>12007635
>>12007839
>>12007910

Well in the very first Witches Tea Party we learn that Bern had already defeated Lambda (presumably in Higurashi) but they both state that it was only because Lambda got bored and more or less let her win.

The comparability between Miracles and Certainty boils down to an extended staring contest. Lambda has Certainty on her side ONLY when she sees it through to the very end, but she risks succumbing to boredom and it could take any length of time short of infinity.

Bern's miracles keep her from losing the game in the short term, but eventually she would run out and have to concede. Even so that could take an extremely long time.
Bern can use Lambda slipping up or becoming bored as a chance to get the right miracle (like she did in Higurashi) and end the game.

Beato has advantage over Bern because unlike her, her power is Endless and Infinite and simply is like a regrowing hedge-maze as Bern tries to cut it down.

>> No.12024751

>>12024511

The Umineko VN is awesome, it just takes a few hours of mindless repetitive reading to get to the good parts.

>> No.12025176

>>12024711
Beato has no power over Bern whatsoever and the endless magic is fake. Also, she gave up after only 4 games. Hardly endless.

>> No.12025514

>>12025176
Yeah, that was pretty amusing. "This game will go on endlessly! Thousands of years! Actually, uh, a few days is enough."

>> No.12025523

Have all the episodes been PS3ified yet?

>> No.12025553

>>12025523
Yes. Not all of them are Widescreen though.

>> No.12025621

>>12024511
Episode 7 already gave all the answers. Episode 8 was R07 taking a wank on his fanbase and was utter shit.

>> No.12025630

>>12024711
>Bern's miracles keep her from losing the game in the short term, but eventually she would run out and have to concede.
You clearly didn't read Higurashi. It's the other way around: Bern's miracles are born only from her tenacity and adamant refusal to give up in the face of great adversity. For instance, she claims she had to go through 2,578,917 different fragments in order to find the single one with Lion. Her power is only effective in the long run, when she can draw things out indefinitely.

>> No.12025631

>>12025621
Believe it or not I knew a guy who violently defended Rosatrice. When I asked why Beato was involved in Shannon/Kanon's love duel, he said it was because "Rosa wanted to fit in and possibly marry Battler, whom she loves". No lie.

>> No.12025728

>>12025631
Yeah, his name is KnownNoMore. We all know him. (Actually, I'm pretty sure he had a more coherent explaination that that).

>violently defended Rosatrice.
Really? Did he kill your family until you agreed with him? Did he murder you repeatedly until you capitulated?

>> No.12025823

>>12025728
>Really? Did he kill your family until you agreed with him? Did he murder you repeatedly until you capitulated?

Yes. He is that dedicated to it.

>> No.12026977

>>12025728
No, it's not Know No More. It's a friend of a friend that just finished Umineko a few days ago. And yeah, he killed me endlessly.

>> No.12028066 [DELETED] 

>>11998333
>If Shannon dies, like she does in ep 2, she cannot meet Battler dressed as Beatrice.

And he doesn't. That scene at the end of 2 was fantasy.

>Ep 3 also makes no sense considering that Maria plainly states that if anyone finds the gold, the game automatically ends, no matter if Yasu knows about it or not.

Uhhh how can Yasu end the game if she doesn't know about it.

>> No.12028073 [DELETED] 

>>11999716
>So Shannon had to go from the Parlor, into the Chapel and somehow lock the door of the Chapel with the Chapel key How is that possible?

Doors can be locked from the inside.

>> No.12028077

>>12025631
>"Rosa wanted to fit in and possibly marry Battler, whom she loves". No lie.

Wow.

>> No.12028079

Use the spoiler tag, faggots.

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Alright, just finished episode two and the tea party
Honestly, I don't think there is any other character who has made me feel so enraged, vexed and irritated.
Battler better serve this bitch her own head on a stick.

>> No.12028092

>>12028091
Hahahahaha the trolling has yet to begin.

>> No.12028102

>>12028091
You're likely to change your tune by the time you finish EP3.

>> No.12028104

>>12028091
There's a lot more things you're going to get to feel, but it's important that you understand love. Without love, it (my ass) can't be seen.

>> No.12028110

>>12028102
There is nothing. She's worse than Rossiu. No, she's worse than fucking Nina. How could you possibly redeem that?

>> No.12028128

>>11972209
Talks about anime and calls other people autists...Yeah I think someone drinks too much mountain dew.

>> No.12028136

>>12028128
This is the worst piece of bait I have seen in years.

You should be ashamed.

I can't tell if you called it anime on purpose or not either.

>> No.12028139

>>12028136
I do not come here often. Either was its pretty beta. I mean its a fucking cartoon character.

>> No.12028433

>>12028079
There is way too much to spoiler. Besides, 99% of /jp/sies that were ever going to read it already have.

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>> No.12029090

>>12028128
4/5 autists agree mtn dew is gross

>> No.12029845

I'm learning Japanese and when I realized that 金, "gold", was pronounced "kin" (sometimes) I was incredibly surprised. "Kinzo!", I thought, completely awestruck with Ryukishi's mastery of Japanese.

And then, I realized, his name is literally 金蔵.

>> No.12029857

>>12029845
Every name in Umineko is very punny and I like it.

>> No.12029862

>>12029857
What's Battler's pun? I guess Beatrice hasn't a pun as she's a Dante's Paradiso thing.

>> No.12029920

>>12029862
戦人 = Senjin = Fighting person

I see what Ryukishi did there.

>> No.12029976

>>12029920
That's not a pun.

Neither is Kinzo being 金蔵.

>> No.12030363

>>12029920
His name is pronounced "Batora" though. I don't think Rikakun/chan will help here.

>> No.12030452

>>12029920
That's so called DQN name. Sign of low life hipster parents sacrificing their child's well being for their own amusement. Pain in the ass for teachers forced to remember all this shit.

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Would fuck hard

>> No.12030488

>>12030475
Please don't.

>> No.12031026

>>12030475
Are you sure you can handle it?
Kihihihihi~

>> No.12031786

>>12030475
Why is her chest so big? She's flat as a board and trapped at age 9 forever. Damn it Ryu, learn how to fucking draw little girls properly or don't even try.

>> No.12031983

>>12031786
>Ryu

>> No.12032692

>>12030475
I bet Kinzo would have loved getting up inside that.

>> No.12035110

>>12032692
lolicon plz go

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