/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>1200799
You don't have a cousin, enjoy your ronery.

>Imperial

Stop right there!

>redeeming thread

>>1200823
What? She enjoyed the tickling more than I did, I'm sure.

>>1200799
You sick dirty bastard.

define play. I play with my kid sister all the time, but not in the pseudo-sexual way you seem to be inferring. We play around in my wood shop out back and build things. I teach her how to cook stuff. She's learning how to shoot targets with a rifle. We play with her toy trucks and go to the park.

If you are doing bad things to little girls you should feel ashamed of yourself. You should cherish what time they look up to you as decent person and not ruin it. You have the ability to make these be wonderful years for both people, so don't be a pervert about it.

At first I was like, aw this is sweet.

Then I read
>and I started playing with the elastic band on her panties. That time she stopped me
And I serioused the fuck up

as I am disgusted by this, I can't help but be curious.
so, she was aware you were kind of arassing her?
I can't see the situation were you would be touching her panties and she telling you off that lightly, shouldn't she be freaked out?

You're sick. Get help.
*zing!*

>>1200831
>>teach her how to cook
so you're teaching her to be a good waifu?

also, truck.

>>1200831
She likes twucks.

>>1200831
That sounds so incredible. And then I remember that I will never get the chance to experience anything like that before I inevitably kill myself.

At first I was like

:)

Then I was like

(,,#ﾟДﾟ):∴;'･,;`:ｺﾞﾙｧ!!

You sick fuck

>>1200845

>>1200829
Nah, all she did was brush my hand off her panties and pull her pants up. She didn't mind the touching, as long as it wasn't her panties.

>>1200831
I do all the things normal people do with kids, but since I'm a pedophile, I enjoy that it's with a little girl. I get more out of tickling a little girl than a normal person would, but I'm still just tickling. It wasn't like I was trying to shove my hand down her panties and feel her up, or anything, just I was tickling her, and brushed the band of the panties a bit, and she noticed that they were visible. She never liked letting anyone see her underwear, even her own family.

Have fun with kids and treat them with kindness.

It's rewarding. Almost as if you were a parent.

I don't see how this thread is touhou related

next time if you rewrite your fake life-story into a short fanfic about Ran molesting Chen's chubby tummy I won't sage you

>>1200862
>parent

;__;

>>1200823
>>1200828
>>1200829
>>1200831
>>1200845
>>1200853
Jesus christ, what's with all the moralfags today? We're all pedophiles here.

>>1200847
She wanted to learn to cook, so I teach her how to cook. Its maybe the closest thing she does to a feminine activity.

>>1200848
Yes, yes she does. I never figured it out, but she likes to play with all of my old toys from when I was a kid ages ago. She likes to play with trucks and transformers and shit like that.

>>1200869
It's not about being a pedophile or not. I just don't support in any way threads with "hey guys I touched a little girl hehe it was hot lol". Seriously.

>>1200877
It's not about touching them sexually. It's about finding satisfaction in touching them in mundane ways that allows a pedophile to stay a pedophile and not be a child rapist.

>>1200869
Speak for yourself. Not all of us are.

I don't think you have pedophile tendencies.
Enjoy your little girl. Alone.

>>1200869


I AGREE 10th FOLD

GODDAMN MORAL FAG'S

And I quit reading at >>she stopped me

because I know there would be NO FUCKING MOAR

>>1200880
/jp/ - Just Pedophiles

hi OP what's your IP address? I just want to tell my friends in the .gov about the special love you have going on so they'll be inspired!
*zing!*

>>1200890
I giggled

>>1200887
Hi. I am your father.

>>1200881
Oh but what if I wish to be the little girl.

The only little girl.

>>1200882
Tell that to the guy that got convicted of child molestation for sucking on a boy's toes.

TOO MANY MORALFAGS FAGGING UP MA THREADS.

>>1200903
Such a toe hoe.

My niece and I play around all the time. She even occasionally asks for piggy back rides, but only if there's no one else around since she's ten, and is too old for that kinda stuff. She has no problem wrestling around with me in front of the family though, and since we've been doing it for five years, they just see it as normal.

I've got her into NES and Atari games, as well as old monster movies. Thus, she has an appreciation for "old" stuff, and hopefully won't lose it and become a hipster cunt when she's a teen.

>>1200869
I'm a pedophile, but that doesn't mean that molesting little girls is cool

>>1200906

>>1200914
Who said anything about molesting?

I love little girls and am a bit pedo, but certainly wouldn't do something perverted to them. Sheesh, part of being a lover of little girls means I want to have fun with them and perhaps even be a role model to them. Enjoy your relationship with the girl, OP, and don't do anything bad to her.

>>1200897
As did I.

And what the hell is wrong with all you bastards? What's wrong with getting satisfaction from candidly playing in a consensual non-adult fashion with a minor? And so what if you stuck your penis in her mouth while she was asleep.

It's all the same thing. We're all human beings here. It's all good. Now if you'll excuse me, I have an interview with Chris Hanson.

>>1200920
>>I could grope her lovely DFC
>>I started playing with her panties

ಠ_ಠ

>>1200926
Yeah, if I did anything that would make them scared or upset, I would feel terrible

>>1200936
>>And so what if you stuck your penis in her mouth while she was asleep.
Well, that's just going a bit to far. You have to be good to her, so that down the line, as a consenting adult of the age of twenty will ASK for that cock to be in her mouth.

>and I started playing with the elastic band on her panties. That time she stopped me, though.

Just when it was getting good.. =/

I find kids adorable, and I appreciate that.

You went one step too far. You just had to cross the line, didn't you, Anonymous

>redeeming thread

I like loli as much as the next 4chan'er but seriously WTF are you doing screwing around with little girls IRL? It's only a matter of time till you run into Chris Hanson...

>>1200933
As far as I could tell, I was tickling her. The fact that I got any pleasure out of it had no effect on the tickling. The panties thing really wasn't as big of a deal as I made it out to be. She just has a thing about not letting people see her panties at all. I've been in situations where little girls have exposed more, and it would actually be completely pedo to sit there and stare at them, but it was normal because the girl just didn't care that she was showing off her panties. As I said, I brushed up against the band of her panties a couple times.

>>1200926
I don't do things that would ever be straight out sexual. The fact that I enjoy just looking at the skin on her arms and face doesn't mean that I should stop looking at her altogether. I think the relationship we have is normal, just I take extra delight in some things.

>>1200956
What line?

>>1200958
THE line, duh.

I TOTALLY FUCKED MY 5 YEAR OLD SISTER AN-HURRRRRRRRRRRR

>>1200799
~Making my list~
~checking it twice~
~gun'na shoot a pedo tonight~

>>1200976

I use to make little girls kiss each other when I was about 12.

Good times......

>>1200983
oh u, /jp/.

>>1200799

How is this jp related?

>>1200831

Trucks?

>>1200890

Oh hey, that's inventive.

>>1200909

Now see, that's cool. I see this as normal behavior...

Later childhood age
Some generally-accepted prescriptions (American) are that during this period children should learn:

The general stages of sexual development in young humans of each sex and the general timing of normal development (including emotional changes).
That sex is pleasurable.
Knowledge about aspects of sex in society, including prostitution, rape, and exploitive relationships.
How to protect oneself against pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections.

Protip: your cousin know exactly what you're upto, she appreciates your attention but doesn't want your pedo pOnOs inside her

>>1200992
Ha. A girl dared me to kiss her when I was 8, so I did.

That's when she screamed so loudly that I thought I had set off the fire alarm.

Oops. Well, that's some experience for you.
1) Women don't like surprise kisses - Check.

>>1201006
>Protip: your cousin know exactly what you're upto
Not necessarily true. Kids are great at discerning truth and lies, but that would only tell her that I like her a lot. Which, as far as cousins go, is completely normal.

>>1201006
Kids don't know how to recognize sexual advances as being sexual. It's likely she just thought he was tickling her and didn't care about the fact that she was shy about the panties.

>>1201003
She plays with my old toys even if we hide them and give her girly toys to play with. She will search for the trucks, transformers, army men, and what not. It really annoys my mom to no end that her daughter acts like a boy almost all the time. It doesn't help matters when I do things like give her a small tool set or teach her to climb trees.

>>1201043
You're raising a perfect reverse trap. I love you.

This is a little digression, but I find it rather hypocritical that people usually turn a blind eye to disgusting atrocities against children if it is in the name of religion...

Take for example the traditional practice of the Jewish Mohel. As a Mohel you are expected to perform circumcision by cutting around the prepuce and then taking the baby boy's penis into your mouth to suck off the foreskin.
There's also the example of young Muslim girls in Africa having their clitoris cut off with a sharp stone and then having their vaginal opening woven shut with strong twine.
Lastly, let's not forget the sexual abuse and torture the Vatican knowingly turned a blind eye toward for centuries.

The actions of pedophiles pale in comparison to the actions or rituals of organized religion..

As you might have guessed, I'm very much an atheist.

Also, go ahead and be a pedo for all I care, I'm not going to stop you. Being a pedophile in and of itself is not a crime, but hurting children for whatever reason is. Think before you act, for your own future and theirs.

Aren't like 90something% of all raeps done by family members?
I mean, we joke about a lot of shit, but actually doing anything that could hurt people is SRS BZNS

>>1201055
An atheist has no moral authority to give a shit

>>1201072
>>1201055
No. NO. SHUT UP.

>>1201055

Gaia.

Return to it.

>>1201055
These are some of the reasons I turned Agnostic a long time ago.

>>1201048
She certainly acts the part. Doesn't really look it even in boys clothing. If she cut her hair and hid her face. Yes, she would be a perfect reverse trap till her body changes.

>>1201062
I'm not sure on that 90% but it is a large majority of them are. Most (almost all?) of them go unreported, or are untriable due to the way the laws work. Very sad subject.

>>1201072
LOL ATHEISTS CAN'T HAVE MORALS NO SIR. BELIEF IN A GOD THAT WILL BEAT THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF YOU IN THE AFTERLIFE IS THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE WOULD DO GOOD THINGS.

>>1201113
God damnit, this just makes me want to make that explanatory .gif of my own mindset even more.

Religious discussion thread?

>>1201119
Kitaro thread?

>>1201104
>>Most (almost all?) of them go unreported
Funny you should mention that, as I once walked in on my older siblings having sex a few years back. In their case, it was unreported because they didn't want to be broken up.

And thanks to massively bribing me, it stayed a secret.

>>1201137
No, just religion is fine.

>>1201119
I'm amazed that there are religious people on 4chan

If there is a hell (Hel, Hades, Yomi, Naraka, etc, pick one), I'm pretty sure you'll go there just for knowing that a place like 4chan existed

>>1201072

It's well established that morals do NOT come from religion.

>>1201078

Never been there and I'm not about to start.

>>1201104

Nothing wrong with being an Agnostic. Technically we're all agnostic to some degree. Even though I say "atheist" I cannot disprove God no more than I can disprove Zeus or the Celestial Tea-pot, so technically I am agnostic about all of the above.

>>1201113

It's a rather scary logical fallacy when you think about it. Turned around it basically means that if there were no god, that people would run around doing terrible things to each other. I think we all know that's BS.

>>1201141

"In a study of 796 undergraduates, 15% of females and 10% of males reported some form of sexual experience involving a sibling"

>>1201141

Your siblings were having sex with each other?

>>1201146
I have been content with my trip to hell for a long time. I just stopped caring.

>>1201161
I believe that's what the grammar and vocabulary used in his sentence would indicate, yes. Do you have difficulty understanding simple grammatical constructions like so?

>>1201165
Should probably just quit religion then, you'll be happier that way

RELIGION THREADS ARE NOT FOR ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT RELIGION YOU... YOU...

>>1201055
I don't think anyone is "turning a blind eye" to fucking female genital mutilation
It's even prohibited by law in many of the butt-fuck-nowhere African countries where it happens, but that doesn't mean it stops

>I once walked in on my older siblings having sex

If I had an older sister and older brother and they were having sex with out inviting me, i'll be fucking... ronery

>>1201161
Yeah. After the initial shock, it proved to be less embarrassing than walking in on my parents.

Seriously, guys?

Seriously?

>>1201178
religion might be one of the most interesting studies of how people work. Its not so much quitting it, as I just stopped caring about heaven and hell and what not. It just doesn't fucking matter to me, and as such doesn't effect me. I just study it as one would study sociology.

>walking in on my parents.
That would be mentally scarring.

I figured this image would be relevant to the thread.

Might as well post this again.

The only experience I ever had was non-incestuous and it was my older sister. It was quite a while back and my sister didn't expect me to always be up so late and her room was right next to mine. Now, she had a boyfriend and I could hear them having sex almost every fucking night, so I got annoyed of it. One night I decided something had to be done about it so I knocked on my sisters door in the middle of the night and told them to keep it the fuck down. She avoided me for weeks.

>>1201210
It doesn't matter, do you see yourself as a religion person or not? It doesn't matter if you only 'study' religion if you reckon you're a religious person then you are one. Me on the other hand I can go to church all day and all I'll be doing would be to perv on the nuns.

Btw, Jesus have good taste in uniform fetish no?

>>1201219
I want to fap to the next chapter of that manga. Fuck yes, Gorgeous Takarada writes such fappable stories.

>>1201234
Not religious here, and there are no good looking nuns to perv on. Though I do like a good looking nun. The uniforms in the church are fairly nice, but then I'm a perv for most uniforms (doubly so for old styled ones)

>>1201234
>perv on the nuns.
Fuck that, it's all about the alter girls.

>>1201141

heh, I found out my younger brother was gay first hand. When I was 13, I woke up in the middle of the night only to look down and see my little brother sucking me off.

Needless to say that was an awkward moment. Apparently he had done it several times before while I was asleep.

Of course being the age that I was, I didn't need the reputation to go with what was happening so I just told him to go back to bed and never spoke of it to anyone.

>>1201262
I prefer my woman a little...older.

>>1201262
>alter
Altar, excuse me.

>>1201263
Hey, free blowjob. I've had fantasies about curious young girls doing that to me.

>>1201266
You homosexual.

>>1201274
Yeah, it was. I let it go on for a while. A mouth is a mouth after all. Would have been much better if he was my sister and not my brother... although since he's a trap, I suppose he is more or less.

>>1201284
sage of jealousy ;_;

>>1201223

Oh shit that's hilarious.

>>1201268
What are altar girls?

Excuse me for being a godless heretic

What do lolis like these days? I don't know what to buy my sister for her birthday. I know she likes to watch the disney channel, but that's about it. When I'm talking to her it's usually about her school or happenings in the house.

>>1201292
the female form of altar boys.

They light candles and help the priest/pastar/minister/whatever hold service/mass in the various Christian denominations.

>>1201293
Get her a harry potter vibrator.

>>1201292
I guess you never played RO either, eh?

>>1201294

Reminds me of that vibrating broom that they had to take off the market.

>>1201297
I sort of look like Jesus, you think they'll hug me?

>>1201293
My sister likes trucks and toy soldiers, but that won't get you very far with most girls. It really differs from girl to girl and age to age. Even the generic stuff is pretty much age related. If she likes the Disney Channel you could likely just get her a plushy of one of her favorite characters or something.

>>1201299
So why do priest rape the boys when there are lolis around?

>>1201305
Most likely they'll do more than that. They are future nuns, most likely, which means it's like they are dating you since nuns are married to the lord and jc is supposed to be one of god's "faces"

>>1201318
because that would be a sin.

>>1201305
Who knows, I have little girls hugging me all day. Its kinda annoying because I can't hug them back with out putting my job on the line.

>>1201318
Because they're all faggots?

>>1201293
I noticed that my cousin would put on my sunglasses every once in awhile when I would drive her home from school. So I bought her a giftcard to the store where I got the sunglasses. As far as I can tell, she's never used it, but when I gave it to her, she was really happy and told me she wanted to use it.

Could have been lying, but it's about the the giving, not the gift.

>>1201318
There are church laws preventing them from being with females. And since homosexuality is defined as man laying with man... a boy's not quite a man. So they tap that shit.

>>1201153
But if there's no consequences for our actions, no afterlife, nothing, why should you care if we blow up the Earth right now? Nothing matters. Atheists can't say what's moral since anything that we do is good.

>>1201318
Really strict Catholics didn't accept girls into the altar "helpers" category until only recently. So, there used to only be boys to... have their fun with.

>>1200831
>She's learning how to shoot targets with a rifle.

Awesome. Have you introduced her to anything bigger than a .22 yet?

>>1201293
You could do what I did for my sister one year, and build her a nixie clock.

>why should you care if we blow up the Earth right now

Because we do, people are born with compassion (to different degrees), it's part of being human.

I find it much more offensive for you to suggest that humans are all heartless and can only made to do the right thing by some laws handed down by invisibal man in the sky

>>1201345
What did she do for you in return?

>>1201354
I didn't say you had no morals, I said you had no moral AUTHORITY. You can't tell anyone what people can and can't do if you're atheist since anything a man does is good.

>>1201344
Yes, for some reason she likes to use my SMLE even though she has troubles loading it. I think she just likes it because it makes a lot more noise but I'm not sure, I never asked.

>>1201337
Since you're obviously just playing devil's advocate, you didn't think that through very well.

You have to realize that when you short someone, there's a revenge in store. Whether or not the revenge goes through the society that we have set up or is personal, it's going to come around. The only way to avoid this revenge is to kill, either the slighted party, or kill yourself. Once you kill someone, though, there's going to be someone that was close to them that will now want revenge.

It basically ends up a very long, cascading chain that results in having to kill yourself. I'd prefer to enjoy myself within the confines of morality, hence I can live longer and still enjoy myself. Who knows, maybe when I get older and death is closer, I'll just go Final Half Year on some lolis or something. But I'm too young yet for that.

>>As far as I can tell, she's never used it, but when I gave it to her, she was really happy and told me she wanted to use it.

Well at least she was appreciative, which means she cared about your feelings. A lot of people nowadays are spoiled brats if they don't get exactly what they want. Just check some bitching threads in /v/

>>1201364
That's what laws are for jackass.

>>1201358
She's managed not to break the damned thing, for which I'm grateful. I had the parts sitting around for a while and decided it would make a great gift, and went ahead with building it. I didn't think at the time what would happen if she managed to break it.

>You can't tell anyone what people can and can't do if you're atheist since anything a man does is good

Yeah we can, if the majority says it's good then it's good, if they say it's bad and you do it, then we put you in an electric chair

Shitsux at times, but better than
"Do you believe in my god?"
"No"
*burnt at the stake*

>>1201337

Would you throw a fit if I said altruism is an evolved trait?
It is quite clear that altruistic behavior plays a very important role in the lives of many animals (Elephants, the lesser Great Apes, etc) and as the Fifth Great Ape, we're no exception. Without our in-bred sense of altruism, we'd most certainly die off very quickly.

>>1201374
If you look at most major religions they do a good job of portraying what we should and shouldn't do along these lines, and most of the times have the same does and don'ts. Its not so much religion as society setting up the basic rules by which it must have to survive as a whole. The basics are the same in each and every civilization's religions and laws.

>>1201381
You can also take a Utilitarian approach. Whatever causes the most happiness to the most people and the least unhappiness to the least people is the best choice.

>>1201405
And despite that, "thou shalt not fuck a loli" is a more recent thing.

>"thou shalt not fuck a loli" is a more recent thing

It is in the view of /jp/ that that rule is heretic and unnature and best be purged with holy fire

>>1201405
If there's a society that believes in revenge killing against women for any reason than you support that society? If a society believes that fucking kids is ok than you support that society? If a society believes that blood feuds are acceptable against minority groups than you support that society?

If you do (AND ALL OF THOSE SOCIETIES EXIST) than what gives you the right to say >>1201055

Nothing gives you that right, if it's acceptable by those societies than by your own argument they must be acceptable.

Atheism has no moral authority, it fails in creating morality for society.

I don't see how what OP wrote was perverted?

Fuck off moralfags.

>>1201433
Cos you now, there is only one accepted god and its holy law is the only correct one right?

>>1201452
>Cos
>now

Fuck. Off.

DERP RELIGION IS /jp/-RELATED AYUK AYUK

>>1201433
your examples are ones where they have created reasons to justify to themselves what they have done, and this is not to be supported. This goes against what I said. Also, I'm not the other anon (>>1201055). I was giving the ultimate purpose of religion in society. It gives people hope and purpose and a guideline for how they SHOULD be living. Religion serves little other purpose, and if it decays then you see the problems that we have in the world (not counting the fanatics, but thats always a problem in any culture).

My younger sister used to initiate sessions by humping my leg when she sat in my lap. Then I put my hand on her crotch and she moved my hand so it would rub her; so I kept doing it.

>>1201433
Morals are not a matter or religion, morals is, as some put it, what you would not allow yourself to do even if there were no consequences.
No need to believe in some invisible sky man to have some principles.

>>1201470
We have girls in the school where I work that hump things and masterbate in class. Its annoying and the teachers don't do anything about it.

>>1201483
religion at a young age will instill and reinforce these, but its not needed, no. However, it does do a lot of people a world of good, even if they don't actually believe in it. Sometimes, its just to use it as a way of thinking instead.

>>1201486
Where is that?

>>1201433

Did you even read No.1201387?
I think it's up to you to demonstrate how Atheism fails to allow for the creation of morality for society. Morality is for the most part innate in everyone.
As I have stated before, I am Agnostic bordering on Atheism. I live my life as though no supernatural forces exist. I believe as truth only what can be demonstrated to be true. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Rather than looking to a God for my morals and guidance, I place my trust in logic, reason, and science.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCiLVCEqnRg

>>1201502
An elementary school. Then tend to start doing it about 4th or 5th grade.

>>1201502
An elementary school. They tend to start doing it about 4th or 5th grade.

>>1201501
It may make people act well but keep in mind that morals is what you wouldn't do even without fear of retribution, acting well out of fear for god does not qualify as morals in the classical sense.
Then again, who cares why you act the way you act, as long as you do.
Morals are a personal matter and as such, should not be discussed, unless you're trying to instil some basic values into children.
All the rest is moralisating, the worst thing you could do.

>>1201502
Australia.

Alright, I didn't read this whole thread but I got as far as the moralfag vs pedo debate started.

Now, let's be honest here. I'm a fucking pedophile. but whats with you faggots acting like no one should be angry that you like little girls. I like little girls but I'm not jaded and think it's completely alright or that no one should get mad if I go around tickling their daughters. People have a right to hate pedophiles just like I have the right to fantasize about little girls. I would be pissed if I had a daughter and some pedo went and touched her (but I'd touch someone elses daughter). Basically my point is, the moralfags really do have a right to be angry. Stop acting like we are all high and mighty because we are lolicons. We are right in liking Lolis and they are right for HATING us for liking lolis.

>>1201532
Read the thread more, subject is : Does Atheism succeed in instilling morals or is a god necessary ?

OP enjoyed this way too much. I've got some pretty wacky fetishes myself so I wont judge, I'm just going to pretend I never read this thread. sage because it doesnt seem like this is a subject we should be discussing openly on the board. thats what IRC is for kids.

>>1201532
And this is one of the reasons I'm teaching my sister to defend herself. Its not my right to intrude on how people think, but it is my right to protect me and my own. If people want to think dirty thoughts they can think dirty thoughts, but acting them out is very not cool.

Hey fuckos, you ever think maybe you shouldn't be posting this out in the open? LOL FBI?

Ultimately morals are subjective and most people without the guidance of invisible sky men can only choose which ethical system to subscribe to based on aesthetics. Thus I've chosen for myself a sort of virtue ethics, where I take so-called "moral" action not for the sake of others, but for the betterment of the self and the fulfillment of an aesthetic.

>>1201542
What the fuck? I feel like this is obvious. I didn't think in my wildest of dreams there would be christians that come to this board. If a (belief in) god was how we got morals than why are their priests that touch little boys? I don't think anyone could ever argue that they got the job just so they could touch little boys way down the road.

>>1201546
>thats what IRC is for kids.
Great idea, let's attach names to the people claiming to be pedophiles.

>>1201542

A firm grounding in any set of pro-societal morals can do the trick, be it the 10 commandments or Mr. Rodgers. But I tend to favor the former. When you actually follow them, the commandments lead to peaceful existences.

>>1201551
Nobility is what comes to mind reading this.

>>1201549
Retard. The FBI can't prosecute based on what you said on 4chan. They can't even get a warrant to search anything. Basically, there's nothing the FBI can do with most anything anyone says here. The "don't mess with football" was because it started getting posted everywhere.

>>1201433

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94f2h-5TvbM&feature=related

There's another one for you smart guy.

>>1201558
>the commandments lead to peaceful existences.
The crusades were definitely, and absolutely, peaceful.

>>1201542
Can't you instill morals without bring in religion? instead of saying to your child, God doesn't want you to be bad, can't you just say, I don't want you to be bad?
Does it really take an omnipresent being to enforce good morals? Can't I just beat them into the damn kids?

>>1201568
Can you train animals to not do "bad" things? The answer is yes.

>>1201546
All stories are fictions. Just keep telling yourself that.

That means we can get away with confessing everything, and nobody would ever believe it.

>>1201567
Read his post. He's saying if they are actually followed.

>>1201567

They broke the fundamental tenant of not killing others. The crusades were conducted in the name of christiandom, but were an affront to it.

You should also keep in mind the "11th commandment," that which Christ gave to his followers in the new testament. To love thy neighbors as you would yourself. Hatred has no place in Christianity, only in the hearts of some of it's misguided followers.

>>1201452
You're halfway correct. There is only 1 God (or religion if you happen to accept that the correct true religion is polytheistic) and only 1. Out of the 2,000 or 4,000 or 10,000 religions in the world only 1 can be correct. It is our duty to find that religion within our lifetimes so that we can live by God's moral code. If we believe that there is no God than we cannot expect people to find any religion and follow God's true moral code now can we? We must then accept that whatever a man feels to be right is right.

It all comes down to the fact that atheism, try as it might, cannot provide a moral compass to the people.

>>1201516
Easy, all morality today is based on religion, or are you trying to argue that atheists at any time in history, have declared what is moral for society to act upon?

I'm not talking the individuals, individual atheists are among the nicest people I know, but I cannot believe that an atheist society can ever create a moral code for society to live by. Society is dependent on religion to do so.

Anyway, have a delicious religious Kooh

>>1201549

A moralfag who watched too much Chris Hanson and is oblivious to how the internet really works?

Please

Without the glue of catholic doctrine, the Bible is too contradictory and scatterbrained to provide a coherent system of morals. Most modern Christians are merely nihilists who can't see the abyss, doing things merely because their parents or society or w/e told them to.

>>1201568
>>Does it really take an omnipresent being to enforce good morals? Can't I just tickle them into the damn kids?

Fixed for /jp/.

>>1201568
Technically, you should say neither, your morals is what you do for yourself, not for god nor for your father.
You'll be teaching the kid some principles, but his choice to believe in these will be his morals.
Acting out of fear of being beaten is not having morals.
Refusing to steal something because it belongs to someone else, not from fear of getting caught, is an example of morals.

>>1201575
But no single religious person in existence follows them, so yeah!

Religion was useful to get people in line when our legal system was completely ad-hoc. Religion as a set of morals is pretty much obsolete nowadays.

>>1201532

It's not really a moralfag vs pedo debate because I think most reasonable people in this thread would allow you to keep these thoughts to yourself.


>>1201553

Well done. I agree 100%.

>>1201591
I happen to be /jp/'s resident mormon so I believe that the bible was correct only when it was written but people without authority changed it. Which is why we need the book of mormon to fix it's errors.

Basically, Christianity was once correct but lost it.

>>1201594

A strong moral foundation will result in a person who follows the laws of the land, not the other way around. Christianity is one way to develop such a character. But it is not the only way.

I have sinned, true, but I learn from my mistakes and have repented for my transgressions. I am a better person having learned such lessons.

I believe religion is necessary not because it is in any way true or is beneficial to the growth of individuals, but because it's what keeps people who wouldn't know any better from acting like retarded apes. Letting nuanced philosophical debate escape the elite is just asking for the complete destruction of society.

I have another question. Why does /jp/ keep having these discussions?

>>1201609
Laws, basic ones, at least, are here to replace morals.
It's not because killing is illegal that you shouldn't kill.
It's because people had no morals we had to explicit such principles and enforce them.

>>1201618
Same goes for everything, imagine if people knew what the economic crisis in america really is.

>>1201603

I believe the New Revised Standard Version to be more trustworthy, having originated in the holy land, rather than the new world. And transcribed from golden plates. Read from a hat.

>>1201624
because they attact attention by looking like D'awww story threads and then turn into these fuckfests.

>>1201624
Because porn is boring, arguing is fun for both parties.

>>1201632
Since the bible has been rewritten a thousand times, I don't believe there exists any document which transcribes exactly the meaning of the evangiles.

>>1201621

It is all well and good to tell a man he will be punished if he kills another. He will then just kill in secret. Unless he is taught the sanctity of life and respect for his fellow man, he will have no qualms about taking a life if he believes it suits him and he will not be punished.

I stand by my earlier statement.

/jp/ - Complex discussions of world religions and socio-philosophy/general.

>>1201632
Sure but mormon's believe those gold plates read from a hat was done under the direction of God himself.

I don't mind if you don't accept it, most people don't, just that you make it sound like jibberish when to a mormon it's not.

>>1201632
Biblefags arguing about different version of their holy text always remind me of us arguing about which fansub/scanslation version is better.

BAWWWWW, your version is a rewrite where as mine is a scanslation etc

>>1201532
Some thread reading would do you a lot of good.

>>1201603

So, about that polygamy thing... lol

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

>>1201647
I don't contradict you at all, I just cared to explicit that a moral man does not follow the laws, he follows his morals, which happen to coincide with the law.

How did this discussion turn from lolis to religion?

Reading a religion argument is like watching two ducks chase each other in circles. A lot of feathers fly and in the end, no one gets anywhere.

While this heated debate is going on I would like to know what do you all think of the so called "religious" inner city minorities whom wear their cross and go to church on sundays yet blatantly break every one of their founding churches rules and beliefs? Namely I am talking about the nigger/spic teens who flaunt their religion yet rob, fight, steal, and kill.

>>1201661

Ah, now I see what you were getting into. My apologies. I agree completely.

So this has been a fairly vapid and trite thread.

>>1201662
It's not a religion argument, we're not talking at all about the validity of religion.

>>1201670
Same thing as the alcoholics in Saudi Arabia.

Finally someone made a thread like this.

Yes, I do have a story: My family and me went to vacation on Arizona and we were staying in an unfamiliar family's house(well, I didn't know who they were, first time I was going to meet them). They had a 11 year old girl, my unknown cousin. She was hyper and was the cutest thing. We talked, but I didn't really want to hang out with her.

The one thing I do remember is when we went to the local swimming pool at their apartments, she was in this two piece swim suit and she played we me and followed me all the time in the pool.

Anyone want pics? I has pics

>>1201680

Feel free.

>>1201680

Fuck off Chris. And no I will not sit in your fucking stupid chair.

>>1201680
Holy shit this thread just got good again!

>>1201603
You don't think Mormon doctrine isn't contradictory and scatterbrained too? The prophets have all contradicted each other, despite their divine status. Mormons have taken back so many different elements of their beliefs, from the polygamy to the belief that Negroes are the descendants of Cain and the curse put on them was large, flat noses and dark skin. Though I do give credit to Mormons for being more united and uniform in their ideas than most sects of Christianity.

>>1201688

oops...u spoke too soon.

>>1201695

That tends to happen in concentrated populations.

>>1201696
>u

Fuck. Off.

Since we're kinda on the subject of little sisters, I remember a few years back on Martin Luther King day, my sister and I were in Walmart. I was looking for a cell phone so we could keep in contact with our truck driver father. The guy at the cell phone area, who was being a prick, happened to be black. So finally, my sister just says "What are you doing here anyway? Shouldn't you have nigger day off?"

>>1201707
She ended up in hospital?

>>1201707
Your sister is nice.

>>1201695

All religions think their views are the unalterable "truth."

Religious or otherwise, this should be seen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80nhqGfN6t8

Also ... yeah, so about these creepy loli stories that weren't even jp related.

I'm a fucking pedophile I do admit, but I would never violate a child for my own sexual pleasures.

It's even harder these days, all little girls I see are always wearing shit like mini skirts and pantyhose and knee high socks and spandex... The list goes on.

I want to ask one of the parents why they let their little angel dress like a hoe.

>>1201705

What a strange thing to get upset about. Are you some kind of freak that can't stand the letter 'u' or something?

>>1201732
Because religion is a lot more on topic amirite?

>>1201745

Well put sir.

>>1201745
*applause*

That was beautiful, anon.

>>1201732
Loli and incest are to Japan what Apple pie and baseball are to America.

>>1201756

Well, using "u" for "you" is pretty much admitting that you're retarded or lazy in a retarded way. Only Prince is allowed to use "u".

>>1201769

Well, yeah. That summed up the whole thread right there.

>>1201774

I know that. I was more or less saying that I wished to get the thread back to the lolis. It was a mistake for me to get into the whole religion thing. I didn't realize it would add pages and pages to the thread.

aaw....the thread is dead isn't it?

You can't let it end this way /jp/!

>>1201787
In that case.

>>1201805
Someone must have more stories!

ANYONE?

>>1201810
Only older sister stories. Said sister is also a MILF, so that's an entirely different thread.

>>1201834
I'm still somewhat interested.

Sweet dreams, pedophile thread.

20:17-00:01 R.I.P.

>>1201680
i want pix

>>1201907
>pix

Fuck. Off.

Shouldn't you be getting ready for school, kid?

>>1201933
im home schooled

>>1201942
Reported.

>>1201959

who said I had to be under 18 to be home schooled?

>>1201972
Go back to /a/ or neo-/b/, faggot.

>>1201975
not until i see the pix

>>1201842
Well, since I'm a loser who doesn't really get any girls, I often get asked to babysit her son. He's alright, not a brat or anything, the only reason I'm there is she just doesn't want him there by himself for safety reasons.

When she get's back, it's usually late, but she likes to hang out with me for a while. She always changes into her nightgown, and we play cards or something, or just talk. Her night clothes are usually fairly low cut, so I always get a decent view of her cleavage, and sometimes more since she has no bra on. I could never be certain if she does this to me on purpose or not, as I never wanted to dare piss her off. When I leave, she smacks me on the ass, but she's been doing that since we were kids.