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>>11897085
yes

I haven't played in months
is it still getting updates?
I mean Elonaplus

>>11898742
There was an update fairly recently, 1.33 or so.

>>11897085
Depends on what you find fun.
Do you like Roguelikes?
Do you like grinding?
Do you REALLY like grinding?
No really, you're gonna be doing a lot of the same shit over and over, and probably dieing a lot.

And then eventually you become a godfucker.

>>11904414
Nailed it.

>>11897085
I just started playing two or three weeks ago and I had a hard time since this is my first Roguelike. It's hard to get the ball rolling and you need to enjoy those gritty games. A tip: Don't think you get through the game with a melee-only based character. It was fun to oneshot the first enemies with a warhammer as a golem warrior, but then those assholes started to get way faster than me and started to shot from a distance while I threw my stupid rocks at them. In hindsight I could try running such a class again now that I have some experience. Anyway. Shit's hard. The game finds various ways to fuck you over with no lube.

If you don't know what you are doing you are doomed to a short life of hideous mutations and not being able to find the right key.

>>11910572
Door key, not keyboard key. I could never figure out how to finish the main dungeon.

>>11910575
Didn't the journal tell you what to do? What door couldn't you open?

>>11904414
The grind isnt so bad, it's just not a game you can complete quickly. I've been on and off on one character for a year or so now, and I have a lot of fun just taking my magical harem on adventures. the only dull part i've found so far is maxing out certain gods (luluwy, Mani), I cant wait to go back to my delicious kumiromi.

I wish you could have more custom portraits though, without resorting to overwriting the main ones.

>>11910514
Yeah, melee is really viable early on, but once you hit higher level enemies, or god forbid bells or quicklings, you need to be decently skilled with throwing or keep poisons on you at all times. certain melee pets rock the house though!

>>11898742
it's at 1.34 now.
Artifact fusion seems to be in,according to the log, which is super cool. Pets can use rods too with 100% success, including rods of wish. Wishing for a skill via a pet now gives the pet that skill, for easy training I assume. A few starting classes have more starting abilities, and some other stuff.

1.34 version of the monster girl sprite pack.


Rename to character.bmp and put it in your graphic folder!

4chan thinks this post is spam,testing if it's the link

>Have blessed rods of domination and monster heart
>magic device skill at 41
>still can't dominate level 50s
Ugh, people say the heart basically boosts it to +20 but I fail every time. Oh well, lets me train up my exile, murder knight, and black cat, even if it'll be hell trying to constantly make them up to par.

I really don't want to use bells to cheese the main quest to get the monster ball shop, always makes me feel super weak.

>>11914092
Yep, it's the link. Mediafire wont let me upload anymore, it's too big for 4chan, so here take this.
puu.sh / 74Jaa

>>11911716
I went and got the three stones from the three dungeons, but the door on level 17 still wouldn't open.

>>11914100
You have to talk to the librarian who gave you the quest in the first place again. Gives you a nice unique ring too.

>>11914092
puu.sh/74K16

there, that should work.

anyway to make the font bigger? i just started playing but the small font hurt my eyes

By the way, a lot of people don't seem to know this, but you can press tab to talk to other people playing! It's just really easy to miss what people say, due to the way the chat updates. But that's what elochat is for

>>11914104

You are a saint.

>>11914095
I'm trying not to do any of the "catch stronger monster" stuff, instead I just keep leveling my pets as I go. Sure, it takes a lot longer, but it's a lot more relaxing and they all feel a lot more important to me.

They trail me by 20 levels at this point, but I have a really large herb and gem farm, so I can keep giving them herbed +9 foods and the combination gem things.

i've got 200+ hours and I have barely started the main quest, I just have a lot of fun sandboxing around with my "family" of pets.

It always cheers me up when i'm feeling super lonely, too, because of the things i've taught them to say~

Why would you make a thread like this OP?

>>11914109
anyone?

>>11918143
It's in the config.txt under (font). You can pick a custom one, and I think you can change the size too, although I haven't needed to, so I cant tell you how well it works.

>>11918104
When do they say the learned lines? At random?

>>11918468
yep, there's a limit, too it seems.

elona is too complicated, i need someone to teach me

>>11920920
Press "?" in game. Make some characters; try out different play styles. Git gud ya squig.

>>11920920
the main thing you want to do is earn platinums. After that, go nuts. You can seriously do anything in this game, with little planning.

Dont worry about ruining your first two characters, as you probably will, Just throw yourself in and get a feel for it, then once you know what you're doing and what does what, then make a "serious" character with all the stuff you've learned

Just remember to use fire/iceproof blankets on your good toys...

i had issizzle's staff go missing from one of my pets, but when I tried to get a new one via little sisters/scientist, it turned into another random staff as if I still had issizzle's staff. I think it originally broke from either fire/acid, but wouldnt that mean it wouldnt count as me having it anymore? I'm really confused about this.

>>11921023
Artifacts can't be destroyed.

>>11921051
then where the fuck did it go?

What's your take on savescumming? I only savescum when I read change material scrolls. I absolutely refuse to accept that I get chrome or steel five times in a row and no hint of what I actually want.

>>11914095
One of the newer things in Elona+ is that you can duplicate a talk.txt text file in your user folder, then set the modified text file to your pet or yourself to change the default responses for stuff.

Also, keep in mind that drinking potions trains your magic device skill in Plus, as well as the fact that you can craft rods then set them to a hotkey and blow through them pretty quickly. I ended up going to Literacy equipment and spellbooks bought from the guild in newer versions of Plus, since you could use the spell more often. Probably forgetting something important since it's been a year or so since I last played it.

>>11923676
Mostly matters if you want to try to claim it's a Rogue-like. You can play the thing as a normal RPG if you want, but it does lose most of it's challenge, which might kill some of the enjoyment. Plus has pretty much been built around savescumming though, so normal Elona is probably better for Rogue-like lovers.

YEEEEAAAAHHHHH!

>>11923676
*farts in ur face*

>>11923716
>Plus has pretty much been built around savescumming though, so normal Elona is probably better for Rogue-like lovers.
Is that so? I gotta try Elona then...

>>11924202
I had forgotten that newer versions of Elona Plus added a couple of other modes, No Future and Inferno. The game detects exits and saves that are made other than through using the Exit command normally, and gives a major penalty if it's detected. You get a multiplier to your "score" for this, but I don't really know if anyone keeps track of those.

There's a list of stuff on the wiki about the modes and their penalties here: http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Balance

Personally, I have a lot of fun with Elona, but there are probably much better games for those who like Rogue-like cruelty. It's probably more interesting because of how strange it can get sometimes, pic related. Captcha: The entetie

>>11914092
>>11914104
Is there some page where you can find the latest MG sprite? I want to know where I need to lurk now that ver. 1.35R2 is out.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:12114

>>11930960

>>11914104
here.

I just update it manually by merging the two pictures, so if there were any new sprites made (which I dont think there were by the original artist of the monster girl sprites), I dont have them. Although, there are very few left untouched by that sprite sheet anyways.

>>11931104
although, I normally only update every 2-3 versions, so I just post them here as I do them.

>>11926904
I really don't think Elona is well suited for being a regular roguelike and that's what it makes it so much fun. The cruelty I know from Nethack combined with the normal RPG feeling from DQ and whatnot.

>>11931104
Is the original artist still active? I want to evolve my dragon to it's final form but the sprite is still from the vanilla game.

>>11931508
I dont think so. At least, I cant find anything about it.
I could give it a shot of continuing where the artist left off, one day.

>>11933138
Balls. Anyway, thanks for the info.

>>11933570
you're talking about the fire dragon's evolution, right?

>>11934387
Right.

>>11934387
>>11937221
I gave it a go of making a custom sprite, but is there any way to give the sprite to a specific character, or summon specific monsters? the closest i've summoned is the figure of it. I want to make sure I didn't miss any transparent parts.

>>11940480
Oh, I'm just dumb, I figured it out.
Shapechange will be slot 18, here's the updated character.bmp for it. If anyone else has any requests for more monster girls, I'll try my best to stick to the original artist's style and work on some.

puu.sh/7hEOG

>>11940480
>>11940524
DUDE. Can I suck your dick? No homo.

My little girl died ;-;

>>11931508
These sprites are from a pixiv tittymonster artist. The other ones posted are probably a lot closer to what you're looking for, but this is another option. I don't think the monster girls sheet you're referencing had mostly sprites from one artist, though. The guy maintaining the sheet modified the bobblehead sheet, from what I remember. There are tons of good options for those. I even ended up doing an overlay once.

>>11940524
You can post up sprites as png files without any color loss if you don't want to use an image service. You can also copy the sprite to your user/graphic folder, next to the custom portrait files, and name it pic18.bmp there to make it work the same way. It's usually better to avoid copying directly on to the sheet if you don't have hundreds of alternative sprites, since every new release would have to be modified again. The individual sprites can also have a different transparency color, from what I remember. and doesn't crash the game if the file format isn't exactly right.

Nice work on the spriting, though.

>>11940925
She will probably die a lot more.

>>11940736
Just glad to be of service!
>>11941237
I'm using an image service because the spritesheet is too big for 4chan. I'm the one maintaining the monster girl sprite sheet as it is, so I'm gonna try adding more sprites to it to keep with the theme as I dig around.
I found a whole bunch somewhere too, so I'm going to be replacing some of the vanilla sprites that are left with what I can find that matches the others, and drawing in the rest to match, probably. I didn't know about the alternate bg/other folder. I've never had my spritesheet edit crash me though.

It could use a good updating though, with all the new stuff that got added in e+. I'll probably leave some of the bosses alone, since they have crazy nice sprites, but the other stuff I could change around easy peasy.

With that though, how do you guys feel about cameo sprites? I know that the current one replaces the bartender with triella from gsg, for example. Would you guys be alright with some touhou/anime/otaku media replacements for some of the sprites? Or should I stick to original only? (ie, Okuu for crow, suigintou for black angel, stuff like that)

>>11942853
I had a good chuckle as I saw Recette instead of Moyer the Crooked in Noyel and Nyaruko instead of Nyarlathotep on the sprite sheet. I'm fine with it as long as it doesn't become too obtrusive.

Is there a way to play and beat this game with a full warrior/monk build? I wanna go around punching things but last time I tried the game got unplayeable after lvl 20.

>>11942853
Personally, I'm a fan of sprites that are well made, so I tend to like those more whether they're cameo or not. I guess it would depend on how well they fit the character they're replacing, and if it would end up looking strange or out of place if there were a bunch of them or something.

>>11943027
It'd probably depend on what kind of abilities have been added since the time you last played. Getting a tonfa and the violence ether mutation would probably help a lot, although the former doesn't function the same as a shield anymore so it's more dangerous. Going fist only from the start would probably be tougher than going to it later, since you won't have access to the AP shop until you beat Zeome and get to South Tyris.

>>11942980
>>11943042
Alrighty. I'll try to not throw in a lot, but I might replace a few here and there with suitable ones.

Would anyone know what a "golg coin" might refer to in the art log? It generated in Cyber Dome (first visit)

>>11945060
The only coins I can think of similar is the kaneituuhou (an old coin). Maybe it's a new item?
There's also a Stone Coin (an old big coin) .
Other than that, just platinum and gold that I can think of. It's probably a typo of gold coin or old coin one, but try to see if you can find what it is in the cyber dome?

>>11945060
From what I remember, you get reports like that in a couple of newly generated maps after starting a new game. Miral and Garok's workshop does it, too. It just seems to be referring to small medals, although it obviously only happens in a couple of places.

How important is magic resist for the player? I found an item with ##### Magic Res on it, but I'm not sure how many enemies use magic.

>>11948466
earlygame, probably not too important. Middle and late? You need it.

>>11948482
One of the earlier versions had a change that resistance to a damage type increased your spell damage (for that type), would you happen to know if that only applies to innate or total resistance?

>>11948523
I dont know. You might be able to test it with some wizardmode shenanigants, But i'd assume it'd be total. I know that's why faeries make such good casters, at least.


in other news, they finally added in a way to check your current favor!
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Nine_god_sign
Has anyone found one?

I have a question about pet evolution!
If you evolve a pet to a form that has a bit flag (for example, yerles infantry -> Latest Outfit Machine Soldier (gains float bit), if you evolve the second form to the third (Yerles Cyber Soldier), Do they keep the bit flag gained from evolving? or is it only that form that keeps it?

>>11948861
They keep it.

>>11948823
you can get them in puppy dungeon, unique sprite and I think it sparkles

Does dying because I didn't have enough mana to create a door after a wizard taught me how to do that in my dreams count as a fun thing?
Because I enjoyed that.

>>11943070
There're some pretty blocky butterflies flying around.

>>11951799
I'm not really sure how I missed that, but I'll fix it next version I release. I've got a bunch more sprites added on, and a handful to finish.

is 1.35r2 a full update or just a "beta" release?

The last time I played this was years ago. I used cheat engine as I couldn't take the difficulty.

I should give it another go.

>>11952443
It's really not too terribly difficult once you get off the ground.

>>11952311
>>11951799


Anyhoo, fixed the butterflies, added some (around 20?) new sprites (pic related, plus some others from the uploader that I either used or edited to fit certain characters)

For Elona v 1.35r2 (might work with 1.34?)

puu.sh/7o1If

>>11910514
Melee is kind hard, yes, but they get some really cool shit. And they were faster than you because you were a golem, they get a speed penalty.

>>11952739
Why does the axolotl look so incredibly goofy?

I am taking a break from playing now. Last time it was still version 1.28. I'm waiting for some updates.

Who's the best pet and why is it the younger catsister?

It is fun. I liked it.

>>11954341
Golden Knight.

>tanks damage for you
>can hold a lot of loot
>the qtest
>the purest

>>11953719
because she's feeling feisty. And axolotls are goofy, I guess.

>>11954341
>30 Life
Yeah, no. She is fast, but she is weak like every other sister type acquired through the books. There are better options.

>>11955996
She's cute, that's what matters. My old catsister destroyed everything and so did my younger sister too. Here are her stats. In the end what truly matters is their stats and equipment.

>>11910514
Once you can pick up the Shadow Step special action, It's a lot easier to go with melee if you want to use it most of the time. You'll still need something for range to use on super fast enemies that move away from you every turn, but most of those are lower health and you can manage with throwing stuff if you wanted to. If you really want to spam it, you'll need Kumiromi for his Elona+ stamina regen ability, or a stamina draining wep for your primary weapon.

>>11954341
Unfortunately, the pets that are cute or interesting for other reasons tend to die too often to actually be used. My favorites have always been pets that are good as mounts. Pascal and Lityou are amazing, and nyarlathoteps make excellent, hard to kill mounts. Favorite actual fighting pet is probably the kali, with it's 4 arms with high dual-wield, and the fact they cause attackers to bleed. They can also use 4 of your favorite weps that you can't use yourself, potentially negating the weight penalty for heavy stuff if you arm them correctly, Can't remember if they even need a shield to counteract that since their dual-wield is so high.

>>11956003
>In the end what truly matters is their stats and equipment.
Well yeah, that was my point. You could've spend the time in even stronger pets and let them kick more ass. The cat sister doesn't even have any special abilities. But as you said she's cute. It's a roleplaying game after all.

>>11956017
Well, you don't give them good enough equipment, look up especially my catsister, she has a potential to do around ~600 average damages everytime she attacks and I boosted a bit her HP along with the fact she has a equipments that keep her from getting killed too easily.
>>11956030
The others pets wouldn't be much stronger though since all I had to do was fuse her with monsters that had great stats while trying to avoid giving her parts that'd make her lose speed. The only thing she doesn't compared to others pets would be she doesn't have any special skill beside the fact she says "onii-chan" all the time, just like the younger sister does (shame they still haven't put back that into the game yet).

>>11956003
How did you get them to both stay seven? Potions?

>>11956033
I've loaded up some of the diary girls, and spent tons of time with evolved versions. They just aren't going to get near the strength of the others. Pets that start at early levels can't keep up by endgame, although they are fine probably until you start hitting the mid part of the second continent.

Besides, kali are plenty cute.

>>11956048
There's a npc that lower your NPC age by 1 year in Elona+, I lowered both their age to 5 so they'd stay loli for at least 7 years without having to bother coming back there.

>>11956055
Any reason why this sprite is not in the monster girls character sheet for the Asura NPCs? Looks way better. Also, is it possible to get a god servant a second time? I gave Exile a second pair of legs by mistake.

>>11956055
Evolve them more, mine did very fine in the second continent. If they're not strong enough, lower their level, fuse again, etc. Do it until they are on-par with the newer pets, it's not that hard.

>>11956095
I'll toss it on. I already replaced the minotaur girl, so a little bit of updating to cuter sprites all around wont hurt either. I think i've already released enough "versions" for this thread though, so next edition of elona+ that comes out you'll see it.

I should mention that an explanation of how to do the quest that opens up the artifact fusion stuff is up at http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:12114 . I don't know if it's up in another place, but it doesn't have an english name yet so there's no point in an actual page. Don't ask me how to do the fusion though, I know nothing other than you need a gain attribute scroll.

>>11956095
The Elona uploader, which that came from, and Pixiv are busy with new stuff all the time. I'm personally obsessive with sprites of all kinds, so I can pick up stuff like that a lot, but it's tough for people that actually maintain sheets to keep track of everything. Plus there are a billion versions of stuff like younger sisters. There's probably even more from some exceptional sprite artists, like the guy who makes amazing portraits at "scrap for Elona" at http://scrapiuna.blogspot.jp/ . If anyone wants to use any of those, keep in mind that the previews are .jpg compressed, which messes up the pixels for use ingame. You have to click on the image and hope it downloads a .bmp from his hosting site, or download one of his archive packs which has the uncompressed stuff. Probably has something to do with blogspot not accepting bmps, although you'd think non-compressed .pngs would be allowed.

I don't remember if sprites of male characters were welcome, but here's a fem-Lomias, also from the uploader.

>>11956350
Ran out of room by talking too much on the last post there. Yes, you can get another exile, at least in Plus, and from what I remember you don't even have to dump your current one. If you're worried that you're above your god pet limit and have an abandoned ranch from the deed quest, you can dump your current exile there if you want. It probably works with the dojo too, but I did all my experimentation with the abandoned ranch.

You just have to change gods, then change back to Itzpalt again. Once you get the 1500 favor reward, you can get a new Exile. By the way, since the gender is random and if you don't mind some savescumming, you can get the opposite gender of what you have, since they have a different evolution if you like those.

Has anyone else gotten the detective event?

>>11956789
I can't even figure out what he's for

>>11956797
Doesn't it have something to do with the werewolves? There's a werewolf detective, too.

>>11956350
Speaking of minotaurs, I thought this pair was kind of neat. Maybe someone would want to use one of them for a pet or something. There aren't many "unique" minotaur female sprites.

>>11956757
>You just have to change gods, then change back to Itzpalt again.
Perfect, since I'm currently working my way through all gods for the goodies. It just takes forever to find a rod of wishing for the 4th reward.

>Bunch of versions ago
>Get about 125 hours in
>Save gets corrupted
>Last backup was like 30 hours ago and I got sweet shit since
>Try to fix it, get other people to help, even the elosnack or whoever it was dude told me it was fucked
Did they fix your save randomly shitting the bit?

>>11957022
Are you using Windows 7? You need to make backups of your save if you're using it.

>>11957036
No thanks I guess. Once was bad enough.

>>11957036
Is it recent? I last played the game 1-2 years ago and didn't notice glitches on w7.

>>11956986
I know what you mean, since I was working through summoning all the gods to one map in the last game to pick up the rewards. I was using a dungeon in one game to keep them far away from each other, but I think I might have summoned them at the maid house in my most recent game. They can occasionally get into fights with each other if they're generated with the right items. That would not be good.

Apparently, one of the more recent patches allows the 300s chests to randomly carry one of those, so hopefully they'll at least be as common as before they removed them from Wizard's Harvest.

>>11957022
You know, I seem to remember that someone made a save scumming program for normal Elona a while ago. The advantage to that thing is that it automatically backed up your saves, so you could go back after auto-saves. You might want to run a search for something like that, since manually backing up your save is hard to remember, as well as pretty boring.

>>11957068
It was in the /rlg/ elona pasta last I saw it

>>11957065
Were you playing Elona or Elona+?

>>11962448
Lanterns on walls? Seriously?

I like this game. What's the difference between Elona and Elona Plus and which one should I be playing?

>>11964545
Elona+ has more content and is still updated regularly.

>>11964555

Oh, so it's the same base material just expanded upon? I just didn't want to start with Elona Plus and miss out on Elona.

>>11964563
Yes. It's not like a sequel or anything.

Is there a way to deposit items into my salary chest?

>>11964843
No. You can only retrieve from salary.

>>11964890

What a shame. I like to be organized.

>>11964843
nope. It's one way only. You can just drop things on the floor, or if it's food, put it in your freezer.

>Beauty Love Goritov goes wild with joy, "weapon!!" A bundle of weapons appears.
It's always amusing how people fuck up their wishes.

If only ZUN!bar was here...

>>11966452
I've seen people wishing for cure corruption potions and the like. Talk about a waste of a wish...

>>11967006
Isn't it the best way to get them after you spend all your tiny medals on blackjack?

>>11967019

It's a waste. You only get so many wishes/year before you start getting the "A stroke of luck has passed you by" message.

Casino chips are easy as hell to come by, you can stock up on cure corruption potions easy peasy. Hell, the 10 in the beginning is enough to get you at least 5, if you don't suck too badly at blackjack and do it on a lucky day.
If you're going through them that quickly, a much better wish would be for a vindale cloak. You can also get them every time you marry a pet, which is rather quick and doesn't waste your wish that can be used for rare and nice equipment.
Once you hit mid game, you're drowning in them if you have a wizard shopkeeper in your house that you've bothered to invest in as well.

But it's still probably easiest to just go do a few loops of the puppy cave for engagement items, then throwing them at whatever meat pet you're breeding (horses, putits, rabbits, whatever on your farm) then marrying them for the guarenteed cure corruption potion.

So no, it's definitely NOT the best way to get them. I'd rather have a happy bed, a vindale cloak, auroura ring, boots of travel, etc over a measly cure corruption potion.

barring that, use your wishes for skillluck or skillspeed or potential or evolution or something. Way more valuable.

I keep a stack of like 20 in my house, and I've got about 90 casino chips left, and I haven't even finished the main quest of north tyris yet. Hell, I'll go run them to pael every now and then to top out my karma. Or trade them for shit in stacks of 3-6. Wasting a wish on something that common is a really bad idea.

Where do I find beds? Also scrolls of return.

This game is a lot of fun but I'm having trouble finding basic things that the wiki doesn't tell you how to find.

>>11967049
beds can be found from the merchants at the embassy every now and then.
Scrolls of return, you get them for clearing dungeons, from magic shops, or you can make them very very easily with the jeweler skill.

>>11967057
you can also pickpocket beds off the ground from cities, or just sleep in towns for a while.

>>11967029
I don't think I ever made it to mid-game, I always end up with a full set of broken, cursed items and more mutations than I can deal with. Wishing for potions of cure corruption is just a way of extending the game before the inevitable restart.

HELP I'M CURSED

>>11967233
What exactly are the problems?
>>11967282
Scrolls of uncurse. You can find them in dungeons and magic goods vendors sell them. If you play Elona+ you can just go to a healer, pay 2500 and get uncursed. Every major city has them.

>>11967292
Getting hit with fire and acid makes my gear useless everything will have -6 to -10. Then it's usually just a matter of trading goods in attempt to get replacement gear only to fall prey to etherwind storms eventually since that's what happens when you move on the main map.

>>11967292

I have 4 platinum and 1430gp but she says I don't have enough money. It's troublesome because I can't move without teleporting randomly.

>>11967317
All you have to do is get a little more money. Teleportitis can't be that bad.

>>11967303
Try to find fire/acidproof liquids and dip your top equipment into it. Magic goods vendor have them if you invest in them or go dungeon crawling. As for the etherwind.
>Etherwind can only occur during days of very certain time periods - during the first ten days of any month that is a multiple of 3 (3, 6, 9, 12)
>If you are outside in Etherwind, you will move faster, allowing you to get to the nearest shelter as quickly as possible.
If it's time stay close to a town. I usually do some quick hunting/party/challenge quests or fish, perform and preach in town so I can run at sanic speed to the innkeeper when the shitstorm has started.

>>11967317
Capitalism, ho.

If it's too frustrating, you could always use cheat engine.

>>11967233
Start identifying armor before you put it on. Pick up the sense quality skill and train it a bit, or a spell/scroll/rod of indentify. You can also idenfity things in towns.
Scrolls of uncurse, or keep 2500 gold on hand to uncurse things. Alternatively, pick up the feat that makes it harder to curse you.

Acidproof/Fireproof potions are cheap at a magic vendor. Stop walking around during etherwind months (up to the first 15 days out of a month divisible by 3) , pick up a vindale cloak. You can read books in your house through the etherwind, so you dont have to worry. You can also talk to an innkeeper and they'll take you to a shelter.

You're not playing smart, so of course you're going to have problems.
try doing easy quests in town, like low difficulty hunting quests. A single one will give you enough gold to uncurse everything.

>>11967365
>Start identifying armor before you put it on
I'm having more problems with monsters cursing my gear than getting gear that was cursed to begin with.

>>11967375
Then get the feat that protects you from curses.

Apparently you can drop cursed items that are bound to you by dieing if you're lucky.

Neato.

>>11967412
If dying is the only way you can get rid of them, you've got bigger problems than the items themselves.

Is there a pastebin with links, info, translation status, etc? I'm looking to be spoonfed.

>>11967897
https://www.google.com/search?q=Elona%2B

>>11967897
http://pastebin.com/bAsNMaBk

>>11967897
it's a bit outdated though.

How the hell do I fight hungry demons?

There's one blocking me on F2 of Lesmias just sitting at the stairs insta killing me every time I go down. Can't even start the main quest.

>>11968043
Get your accuracy up by training the associated weapon skill, use an accurate pet like a little girl, or use magic. You could also try spamming touch of sleep if you have enough stamina and no other option.

>>11967303
Get wings or equipment that floats you ASAP for you and all of your pets. Except those that already float, like bells.

Why does the battle3 in the sound folder sound different from the one that plays during hunting quests? I really want to be able to listen to it, but it doesn't sound right and none of the other files are the one I'm looking for either.

>>11969671
the midis pitch shift ingame, for more variation. That's why I much prefer having mp3s instead.

>>11969812

It's weird because it seems like that's the only song that doesn't sound right.

no

>>11970447
awww, why not?

I got the strangest problems bros, I equipped a shotgun, loaded it with bullets, but when i press "f" it keeps telling me that I need to have a firing weapon equipped.

what the fuck

>>11971890
is your shotgun in the ranged slot?

>>11971892
>>11971892
ohhhhh. i thought you equip it in the main hand slot. that's enlightening, i thought only rocks would be put there. thanks for helping a nooblet out anon.

Once I identify a scroll, are all future scrolls of that type known, like the way it works with rods?

It seems a bit silly to even bother picking up scrolls if it's going to cost me 300 gold just to use it.

>>11973543
How difficult would it be to find out for yourself?

I'm trying to get to Lost Irva, but this captain isn't giving me the option for it. I went back to Palmia and talked to the scholar twice yet nothing happens when I talk to the captain.

How do I find out my pet's allowable weight before they get burdened? Or will it just not allow me to burden them with too much stuff?

What does this little symbol mean? It only appears on some traits on some items.

I'm sorry about turning the thread into "help a noob"

>>11973825
They tell you when it's too much.
>>11973859
As far as I know it is for an unimplemented artifact fusion system. So if you see some rare/useful enchantment with this symbol keep the item.

>>11973767
Go to the place where you fought the ether generator. There should be a ship there.

I remember this game. It had nice music, oddly sentimental, so that dungeon diving with my pet little girl felt almost like having friends... It was never balanced or really fleshed out in the areas that needed it, but I loved it for its wackiness and its potential.

It was the last game I loved for its potential, before realizing that loving things for their potential is a good path to heartbreak.

...In retrospect, can't really recommend.

>>11973960
When did you play it? And for how long?

>>11973880
>>11973859
I thought it meant that attribute was assigned due to your luck.

Just before the original developer quit, for like a year, then a bit later when some Japanese people had been expanding it for a while and renamed it Elona+. Don't have much hope for it now; apparently while there's more catsisters and shit now, the anonymous Japanese continuers never did anything about balancing favored sacrifices or making magic less of a godawful grind.

>>11974027
Just before the original developer quit, for like a year, then a bit later when some Japanese people had been expanding it for a while and renamed it Elona+. Don't have much hope for it now; apparently while there's more catsisters and shit now, the anonymous Japanese continuers never did anything about balancing favored sacrifices or making magic less of a godawful grind.

mother fucking mofo liches

>>11974062
>never did anything about balancing favored sacrifices or making magic less of a godawful grind
What sacrifices do you think are hard to get? The only one I can think of were the staves for Itzpalt in vanilla Elona and they changed that to rods.
As for the magic; don't you think this whole game is a grind? Magic users are pretty fucked in the beginning I give you that. I remember how I used up all my combat spells, had to hide behind my only pet, shoot/throw with some shitty paper weapon, while I cleaned the Puppy Cave over and over again in hope of finding some goddamn spellbooks of Magic Arrow. But as soon as you can enter the Mages' Guild it's all over. See this bitch with the blue coat? She is your new god. The only thing you have to grind at this point are the spells themselves and the potential of these can only rise when you sleep. So it's just a matter of time and the payoff is glorious when you stick with mage. Need to go home? Cast Return. Reveal the current dungeon layout? Cast Magic Map. Want to identify an artifact? Cast Identify. Carry too much food? Cast 4-Dimensional Pocket in which food stays fresh forever. Got ambushed buy some Highwayman? Cast Teleport till you hit the border of the map and simply leave. Too much enemies are storming towards you? Create walls out of thin air. Some high-level asshole is standing in your way? Blind/paralyze/confuse/poison him, cut this fuckers DV and PV in half and lower his resistances against anything with your combat spells. Want to fuck shit up? Cast Meteor. Want do dominate something? Cast motherfucking dominate.
You can obviously do most of this without being a mage. You just need to carry a shitload of scrolls and rods, but some of them are very rare and the mage can do all this without carrying anything, having a much higher (spell)stock and having to pay less. Also, nothing can dodge spells. You can only fail casting or the enemy has a resistance against some types of magic.

Where can I find the most recently updated version that also comes with a english translation?

>>11975016
the game is already in english you retard, are you completely incapable of using google?

>>11975019
1.35 doesn't seem to be,and that's the version offered for download on most sites.

>>11975019
Did you wake up with a stick up your ass?

>>11975021
It's in english. It's always had both english and japanese mode. Just get 1.35r2 from the dropbox. I'm playing it right now and it's very clearly in english. Did you even try to play it? It gives you an option the first time you run it if you want it in english or japanese.

As a warrior, I'm having trouble on these bosses. Is teleport scrolling around and throwing pots and using my gun a good strategy to take them down?

>>11975896
Yes, but if you're doing that, why play a warrior?

I'm a noob, my pet just drank from a fountain and got a wish, what do I wish for? I'm a level 6 mage.

>>11974062
Training magic was made much easier since Elona+ 1.27 or so, due to changes with spellbooks and spell stock and potential. There is also a new mode that makes experience gain twenty times faster.

>>11975896
Getting 30 Stealth fast so you get Shadow Step is important for warriors.

>>11976156
"seven league boots" or "happy bed". "miromi" for your second wish.

>>11976176
I don't think the secret experience is really necessary so early on. There's plenty of other useful stuff worth looking at, like speed rings, aurora rings, and so on. It's worth picking up later, but at this point, feats aren't hard to come by.

>>11976184
I personally think it's the opposite. Aurora rings are almost pointless to me, speed rings might come with a low bonus and there's Riding. But any feat at the start is good and stays forever, and you need to spend almost every wish on miromi if you want to keep up with maximum allowed feats due to levelling up, unless you get plenty of wishes.

>>11976192
How many of the feats are actually important though?

The only ones that I consider essential are Hypnosis, Natural leader, Dimensional Move and Exorcist. The rest are good, but you can usually get the same benefits by other means.

>>11976239
You can't easily with the two that increase Life and Mana, and those take several levels to fully upgrade. Even those that just increase resistances or skills are decent to good and last forever.
Many feats are high-priority, like those you said, so I think spending a wish to get all of them earlier is worth it.

>>11976264
Stuff like life, though, takes 5 points to max out. That's a lot of wishes, and while the increase is going stay with you though the game, it'll be less and less important the further you go.

If you just want some early-game stat increases and resistances, just wish for potions of evolution and use those.

>>11976294
Preferably you upgrade Life and Mana with both miromi and by levelling up. And the increase is by percentage, it's never going to become irrelevant.
Getting mutations is easier than getting feats, so I think wishing for feats is better on the long run.

>>11976176
Wishing for skills that you don't have is pretty useful, since having to save up 50 plat for each one once it caps takes a pretty long time, and you usually want them as soon as possible so you can start building skill levels over time.

Are guns better than bows? I'd rather use a bow to be honest. Also someone told me that hand grenades fuck everything up, I haven't been able to find any. Is it true?

>>11976617
Hand grenades do a 3x3 aoe explosion, so you might hit a pet

>>11976617
Hand grenades are good early on, until everything can resist the extra sound damage from the explosions. People used to suggest them for wizards.

Guns are probably better overall, but you can still do plenty of damage with a bow. You won't hit the damage of a shotgun, but there aren't any huge drawbacks. It's easier to grab a unique bow early in the game as well, not having to rely on chance. Seems easier to find living bows than guns too, but that's probably just randomness.

Either way, pick up a tonfa from Miral's shop as early as possible if you're doing a lot of shooting. The damage bonus from them applies to your ranged weapons, too.

>>11976617
The few grenades i've found were completely underwhelming.

Machine Guns are overpowered as fuck for the first half of the game. 10d2 damage means an extremely high average, instead of something like 2d16. Mine is currently 10d5+1

You may not do as much damage potentially as the shotgun, but you'll always have very consistent damage output and never get those really shit rolls of like 3 damage. Another thing is the effective range of weapons.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Ranged_Weapons

MG does 100% damage from 2-3 tiles away, and 90% at 4 tiles and lowers from there on.
Longbow does 100% at only 3 tiles away, 90% at 2, and 50% at 1 tile away.
Shotguns do 100% at point blank, 60% at 2 tiles, and a pitiful 30% at 3 tiles away. It simply can't hit anything further than that.

>>11976671

Wow, I can't imagine ever using a bow in that case. Machine gun seems the most well rounded, and shotgun seems like you might as well be melee.

>>11976689
Again this is early game.
Guns rely on Perception, where bows use Dexterity. Whichever you find easiest to train or want to train.

Later on it wont matter so much as you have more and more damage bonuses stacked on you, the variability between say 10d2 and 2d10 isn't as obvious when you have +50 damage going for it.

Once I find a good enough laser pistol i'll be switching to that, 100% damage from 1-7 tiles on a base 2d10 gun. So nice.
Even if I were to consistently hit 96 on the upper end of my 10d5 MG, that damage penalty from moving outside of the 2-3 range will shoot me back down to the mid-range of my current laser pistol.
Flexibility over specialization is how I roll.

New to elona, my salary box isn't working. Is there any reason for this? Google brings me nothing.

>>11977227
What do you mean "not working"?
At the end of the month you'll get a notice about things being deposited in your salary box.

>>11977230
Nevermind, tried o on the ground while standing on it.
Still getting used to the game, lots of fun.
Lost almost all of my charisma to dying though.

>>11977247
Glad you're enjoying it.
(b)ash some trees that look like they have fruit on them. Great for charisma, especially if you can cook.
By the way, learn cooking ASAP.

>>11977253
Yeah dungeon crawling with no food was pretty lame so I got cooking first.

I haven't tried Elona+, do you still need to grind the delivery quests to get money to get equipment to run the dungeons?

>>11977423
For starting plat it helps.
Abusing the cargo trade system got toned down heavily since the traders actually run out of money now instead of having infinite gold.

>>11977253
I prefer weight lifting myself.

>>11914092
>>11914104
Oh Goody.

>>11977253
>>11977256
I tend to learn cooking only when I've found a barbecue set and rerolled it to zylon or dawn/spirit cloth. Any other cooking tools tend to be either too heavy to carry or give too little of a bonus to cooking. And since cooking only levels from the third quality level onwards and you get less stat increases for charred meat, hard bread and such, it's pretty unpractical unless you follow Jure or want to sink a ton of platinum or skill points in cooking.

Instead I'd get anatomy right off to increase the drop rate of corpses. As long as you keep some backup bread, eating unidentified corpses tends to work fine, you'll vomit from cursed corpses now and then but unless you get terribly unlucky you shouldn't starve or get anorexia. And when you do get around to learning cooking, you'll always have plenty of corpses to level on.

>>11977746
Why not use cooking utensils in town? you can use them even if you don't own them, your chance of making a good dish is high and you can sell what you made as well.

>>11977759
If you're in a town, there's plenty of food at the baker and general vendors, so you can eat anything that rots then save the bread for dungeon crawling. And cooked food doesn't sell for enough to make it worth the effort.

I suppose it's a matter of personal preference, I find myself prioritizing more essential dungeon crawling skills like lockpicking to open doors and chests, the material gathering related skills, sense quality and so on. Between that and getting a full kit of combat and/or magic skills, and some other quality of life skills like investing and negotiation, cooking tends to sit unlearned until I have a good reason to, which is either finding a barbecue kit or simply having learned almost all the skills in the game.

>>11976671
I think 3d10 is better than 10d3
sure, the damage is solid and minimum and avarage damage is higher but on the down side- the avarage is solid, meaning restraining. the chances to get max damage on a 3d10 are much higher than on on 10d3, on which they might as well be nonexitent.
Don't attributes such as 'luck' affect your damage output? you will need much more luck to be maxing on a 10d3. that is why I'm taking my chances on fewer dices with higher veriaty.

My Juere Infantry will only equip some things that I give him. Why is that?

>>11977794
the towns is marely to raise cooking skills till you can get edible food simply with a portable cooking utensils

tough, unless starting with it i also prioritzie other skills to cooking. mainly weight lifting. that and cooking can do for long dungeon runs.

>>11977812
You can also cook with firebolts (rods are pretty common and the spell isn't too hard to learn and use even if you're not a dedicated mage) as a band-aid solution to save platinum for higher priority skills. Lately I've also found myself getting detection and jeweler first, so I can gather materials for and make inferior material scrolls. Getting maintains stat gear to raw and eating it is pretty handy for amplifying your stat gains. And with elona+ giving a bunch of items guaranteed bonuses (speed for shoes, str for clubs), gear is starting to be a viable food source.

>>11977804
Luck doesn't affect damage rolls.

>>11977808
Some allies don't have slots for some equipment. Take a look at the image. My ally is missing the boot, arm and one hand slot. You have to use the gene engineer machine and a pet you are willing to sacrifice, which can donate the right body part.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Gene_Engineer#Body_parts

>>11977995
That's one possibility, but since his pet is a Juere Infantry, it should have all standard slots and be able to equip anything.

Maybe the problem is it already has something equipped in the slot in question and considers it more valuable than the new piece of gear, in which case you have to remove the old item from its inventory first.

>>11977995

Yea, for some reason I thought Juere Infantry was a shooter type.

>>11978007
I just ran down to Derphy and confirmed it myself. You're right. The wiki even says so further down the line.
>>11978008
The Juere Infantry does shoot sometimes. You just need to take his old ranged weapon away like the other anon said. Don't forget to give him/her ammunition.

>>11978018

That's really weird. I gave him a pistol and some bullets and he just kicked things. Then I gave him a sword and he actually started using it. He didn't want to equip the sword that he came with for some reason though.

>>11978032

Nevermind, a stone is a ranged weapon which I never bothered to take away from him.

Is there any reason that an innkeeper would be in any location other than his inn? The Etherwind started right as I walked into Lumiest but there are just two no-text NPCs in there, nobody to take me to the shelter. I did get the "assassinated by the unseen hand" message when I walked into town but I thought that could only happen to randoms and there is no loot in the inn like I would expect.

It's going to be a long walk back to Palmia to save-scum for cure corruption at the casino, I guess.

>>11978094
>there are just two no-text NPCs
Really? Usually there's only one guard and the innkeeper. Did you check the little room in the inn?

>>11978094
The unseen hand event can happen to anyone. I've had it kill <Whom dwell in the vanity> before.

>>11978124
Did he drop his sword?

>>11978140
Yes, it'll always drop, no matter how he dies.

>>11978148
Lucky duck.

What's the easiest way of getting bows for Lulwy?

>>11978184
Going through dungeons and investing in weapon merchants. You can also make the most of every bow by using them on unclaimed or other gods' altars. Doing challenge quests in Palmia works, since you get an unclaimed altar every time.

>>11978104
>>11978124
Ha, I found it, his stuff was jumbled up on something else. Will he ever respawn?

>>11978241
Yes, but it'll take a while

>>11978241
Yes, towns reset every few days, so you can dig the walls, steal the things on the floor, kill npcs and everything will be back to normal after a while. One of the recent elona+ patches made it so summoned monsters also despawn after some time, which renders towns relatively catastrophe-proof. Infesting everyone with aliens might still be a bad plan.

After the alias roll but before the race reroll there is 'profie roll'. am I the only one who get an error if I proceed after rerolling at least once? (ver 1.35r2)

>>11978396
Cursed equipment, I'd imagine.

One of the guards in Palmia is bleeding everywhere. Occasionally I see the message "something bites <guard's name>". What is going on there?

>>11978396
God, there was once this adventurer who wore some cursed equipment with the "It sucks your blood" attribute and bleed fucking everywhere out of my view range. I was fishing in Palmia in front of the castle for Ehekatl and when I wanted to deliver the first batch of fish there was blood fucking everywhere. I panicked because I thought I had an alien infestation, but then I saw this asshole with a little trail of blood behind him and immediately gave him a blessed scroll of uncurse.

>>11978271
I never understood the profile roll. It is always "secret" regardless if I roll or not.

Is there anyone who plays this game like an actual roguelike?

>>11978492
No, there are plenty of better ones I would play if that was what I wanted.

Where is the best place to find a gem cutter? I have a ton of supplies, I can't can't find the tool.

I need to give it another play tonight. It's pretty fun if incredibly weird and obtuse. I prefer Adom (which is what Elona is loosely based on) more but Elona has such a bizarre charm to it that I always get the itch. I just wish magic wasn't so terrible (at least it was really mediocre and tedious last I played).

>>11978530

I see them all the time on the ground in dungeons and sometimes in shops.

>>11977794
i'm selling muskmelon grand parfaits for ludicrious sums of money. I'd say it's pretty profitable. I can buy potions of potential or whatever from my wizard, then immediately get my gold back with just a parfait or two.

>>11977804
luck has 0 effect on combat, only on droprates and the like.

>>11978542
ADoM was my first roguelike. I love it a lot, lots of shenanigans. But elona has drawn my attention for a lot longer just for the humor of just about every situation. It also makes me feel cozy and relaxed, since I can go adventuring with my harem and forget about lots of bad stuff happening. I think adom is a cleaner game in terms of mechanics and all that, but once you've cleared it a few times, there's not really the fuckaround potential elona has.

>>11978584
I like Elona for probably the opposite reasons you listed. I like it because it feels so strange and half finished. I'm not sure how to describe it, but it's just so different then the normal stock of roguelikes I play. It certainly oozes personality. Nothing like flooding the capital with aliens.

Although, you're right about fucking around. I've never done any of the main quest. I just grind money and try and get my dude into a death machine.

>>11978410
>A adventurer keeps coming to my house
>she's wearing a set of non-cursed bloodsucking clothing
>Every time, the carpet is drenched in blood she's shitting out

Well anyway, anyone keeping their old pets? I still have the Exile (who's keeping quite well, since she has all of the +casting equipment, and more than enough AP to get a ton of speed and Crystal Spear) and the Defender (lay on hands is sweet, and she does fine taking hits and occasionally using Healing Rain via Holy Lance).

Nice how herb food and other additions help keep outdated pets strong, even if it's not really enough unless you really like them.

>>11978826
I'm still dicking around in North Tyris although I could solo that guy down there in Lesimas. I just let the god pets chill in my house and take the usual rascals with me, like Murder Knight, Pascal and some other high level or exceptional strong ones with me, but I try to train the other ones too, when I'm not too busy collecting platinum coins or dungeon crawling for rods of wish.

>>11978826
I keep all my pets! I've been feeding them lots of herbed food lately.

What benefit is there to spawning a new character from a gene? The wiki mentions inheriting inventory, obviously, as well as "some bonuses." Does it produce a better character or is it just a way to start over without having to give up all your hard-earned loot?

>>11978912
You can use soul spindles to transfer pets. You can also use it to transfer things like little sister corpses that would have consequences for your character if obtained normally. You also get a short cutscene from the Secret experience of Lomias.

I'm not aware of any stat increases or anything like that though.

>>11978924
Too bad soul spindle absolutely cripples pets so it's mostly for RP purposes. Although considering you can inherit monster balls with xeren units or a kali, it's pretty moot.

>>11978040
Keep in mind that because they decided to let you equip ranged weps in your melee slot and vice versa, that your pets sometimes equip things in a different slot than they're supposed to since you can't equip them directly. This includes them moving things from where they might have been before you give them a new item. It may have improved some in recent versions, but you might want to check exactly when the Hand and Shoot slots light up.

Not sure if this was your problem here, but the priority for that stuff is still a little screwed up.

Was wondering if anyone had any sprites for a particular monster type they might be looking for. Not everyone has the free time I do to dig through the uploader and Pixiv, so I have a pretty big collection right now. It'd be nice if it did someone some good.

>>11978826
You can usually trade them some stuff you don't need for the items with cursed attributes, then just trash the crap you get from them. I was thinking that higher quality material jewelry and armor works well for that, so having a stack around can help. It's something else to do if you want to try to trade them a lot of engagement stuff after hiring them to get their relationship up. You can't keep giving the engagement stuff, since their inventory will fill up, so you have to trade them something so they automatically dump other equipment to make space.

Getting near to soul mate can get you gifts and tokens from them when they show up, which are nice for getting relationships higher for NPCs that you can't use engagement stuff with. You also get a chance to get the best stuff from New Years gifts when they show up, which includes the amazing Five Horned Helmet.

>>11978492
Yes, but they probably shouldn't. There's good fun to be had, but the draw of Elona is the craziness.

>>11978848
It's nice to get to South Tyris as fast as you can, since you can use the AP shop once you do.

I started a character and relaxed and went on adventures until level 10 when I decided to go and try to get to floor 16 of Lesmias to continue the main quest. Dropped down some stairs at about floor 6 and got 1 shot by some red knight. I feel like I'll have to reach level 50 before I can even attempt the main quest. The difficulty is refreshing though.

>>11979366
Honestly, until you complete the three side dungeons, you can't get much of anything by continuing down Lesimas anyway. Once you get to the second spy, you'd have to do it anyway.

As far as exploring stuff goes, if you run into something you think is going to toast you up close, try zapping them with a teleport rod. that can end up helping you buy time in places that you don't want to have to kill every enemy to get past. Getting high enough level to have a decent meat-wall pet to soak up damage for you in situations where you're uncertain can help, too. If you can pick up a cyclops or minotaur early, that can help a lot at enemies around their level.

I'm kind of drawing a blank about what E+ pets might help, but having some decent backup helps tremendously. You could probably pick up some nicer armor to prevent the sudden deaths too, but for all I know you already have some decent stuff.

>>11978584
>>11977933
Really? I guess I'll just have to count on my RL luck than. which is quite good.

>>11978415
I guess it part of the game that needs to be translated.the game is playable, but we are missing out a lot

Is there a way to play a faerie claymore? i mean technically it's possible, but faeries can't equip 2h weapons last time i checked...

>>11979215
I just looked over the monster girls sheet the other anon is maintaining. Got anything nice for Cyclops/Titan, Yerles latest outfit soldier, Yerles self-propelled gun, Yerles conbat plane, Xeren electric tank, Xeren satelite unit?

>>11979935
I kind of drew a blank on this one. I'm pretty sure I have more monster girl giants somewhere, but didn't come up with much except for the silly one there. The others are kind of tough since no one has drawn stuff specifically for them, and even finding stuff that might fit is a little tough for planes and tanks. I threw some anime/game crap on there, but I'm not convinced it'd fit anything. It's kind of too bad, since people have done some pretty nice stuff with only 48x48 pixels to work with, but there's nothing to use them for. There are also a ton of generic cyborg girls, but since I'm not totally sure what you're looking for, I can't throw them all up. I threw a tank on there too in case you weren't asking specifically for monster girls.

There was a guy who did those cat eared cyborg chicks, but I couldn't find his pixiv to see if there was other stuff I forgot about.

Speaking of robot girls, there was this Sora no Otoshimono sheet that I never found the source for, and didn't want to spend the time cutting out the sprites from. It's a png, so it shoudln't have nasty artifacts in the sprites preventing it from being used, so someone might find some interest in it. There's another one with...uh...the masou shoujo and vampire ninja manga/anime that I forget the title of. Same deal, artist did a decent job.

>>11979617
They can. It's weapons (or any other equipment) that weigh more than 1s they can't equip. Which, unfortunately, takes away the biggest bonus from 2H weapons.

>>11979617
I thought they could wield anything as long as it was under 1s in weight. Get some inferior material scrolls and hope for a Paper Claymore.

>>11980015
wouldn't it be nice if 2h worked difrently for fairies? like, fairies can equip weapons up to 5s if they are using both hands or something, and the waight trashold for the bonus is reduced

>>11980016
>paper claymore
hard to obtain in the early game, hardly usefull in the letter, but i guess this is my only option

My ally got pregnant from drinking from a well. As soon as I finish taking care of it, he goes and falls into the same one and dies. Is there a way to make it so they still eat garbage off the ground in dungeons but don't use those death traps?

>>11980318
Give them equipment with the "it floats you" attribute, like wings, feathers or other enchanted stuff. That way they can't fall into wells and it also helps in dungeons since they just float over traps and acid. They still get aliens from wells though if they also don't wear equipment which protects them from aliens.
Simple solution: drink out of the well till it has dried up. If you want it to refill you have to destroy it and wait for it to respawn.

>>11980095
You could always use a lightsabre, or some other sort of light weapon. 2h is based on weight, not the type of weapon being used. There's not much point though - you won't be getting as good a bonus.

>>11980318
you can teach your pet to not pick things up and not drink things with a whip.

I keep getting the urge to delete my character and start over, even when idea I've got in mind is very close to the character I'm playing already. Is there any way to deal with this? I can never get very far because of this.

>>11980830

That happens to me too on almost every game I play. You can be anything and everything in this game given enough time and grinding though, so there's really no point in restarting.

>>11980830
Think about all the nice toys you could bequeath your next character.

>>11980830
Do you want to try new concepts or are you doing the same concept over and over?

if you want to try new concepts, simply think what is the one you want the most and stick to it

if you try the same concept again and again, than i guess its the starting out that is the most fun for you in this game. force yourself a few more hours of gameplay to give that char some vintage, than, if you still have that urge- follow it. play this game for wwhat makes it fun for you.

What is /jp/'s favorite race in terms of pure power-gaming?

I'm fairly new and it feels like I'm reaching a point in the game where I'll be doing a lot more grinding to move forward, so I'm considering throwing away my character (largely a practice character that wound up successful) and starting over from a gene. Elea looks good simply because of the Ether resistance, something that has dogged me with my current character (partly due to a lack of calendar awareness, something I'm getting better at). The reduced overcast penalty doesn't seem like it could be incredibly useful but on the other hand if ZAngband and variants had such a skill it would have saved my life countless times.

Do enough enemies start using magical attack types in the late-game to make the fairy's bonuses worth it? Then again, the fairy penalty looks like it would be a nuisance at worst, with my current character I blast everything with magic or let my pets kill it before we ever come to blows.

Thoughts/opinions?

>>11980966
>power gaming
I only speak for myself and i haven't played a while, but mutants can be pretty powerful as they grow in levels due to sprouting new equipment slots every 3 levels. granted, i exit without saving (like with ctrl alt del) if i get an addition i don't want, but still.

enemies do use magic, and some creatures mirth in blasting you and your pets with elemental breaths. I can even remember a dungeon where unless you had high fire res simply moving around would end you in the grave

tough the most important is to remember this is an rpg- a role playing game. i think trying to look at the mechanis is bad for the fun, but i also think it your job as the player to decide what is ffun and what isn't

>>11980966
Ether is pretty easy to deal with once you do enough dungeons, since you can just go play blackjack for a ton of cure corruption potions if you're patient.

As far as stuff that you can't get or emulate with other characters, the added bonus point for yerles characters is nice at later levels, since it really adds up. Increasing potential is horribly expensive once you have a lot of high level skills, and the bonus point helps you with that a bit.

Golems also end up pretty useful, since their dim resistance is REALLY nice later on in crowds of people using stuff like insult. It doesn't prevent dim caused by some effects like insanity, but it's an advantage that you can't duplicate with equipment. Golem starting speed is pretty terrible though, and you can't spend AP to get more until you beat the first continent.

Another interesting way to play is with a mutant. 6 armed mutants are really neat, and not as fragile as you might think since you can equip shields for more dangerous stuff. You can actually add a couple of hand slots with a normal char now with the scientist in the 2nd continent, so this isn't as unique anymore.

>>11980966
The two that are probably the "best" at it are:

Mutant: Multi-Wield monster. Only one who gains multiple slots without using the Doctor in the second continent. And then if you're nuts and have a good monster ball to carry you through, you could even get 27 slots if you rush through and get to the Doc before level 3. You might get unlucky unless you savescum but eh.

Fairy has a rough start, what with being only able to use light equipment. But with persistence they can dodge quite a lot of things while having tons of resistances (mine has superb###+ in all but nether and poison). Course, I still get creamed by a goddamn Four Head God, but then again, my party who's far better than me tends not to survive long against it, resistances or not.

I wouldn't really recommend fairy. The resistances are great, and yes, they will come in handy a lot, but the equipment restrictions aren't fun at all.

Elea feats are 40% ether resistance (I believe), and half damage from overcasting. Both of them are somewhat useful, but they aren't too significant - there are other ways to get ether resistance, watching the calendar will save you from a lot of it, and cure corruption potions aren't difficult to obtain. Same goes for the overcast resistance - it's useful, but you should be trying to avoid negative MP anyway.

As for the theoretical best race, Fairies can be great once you grind out enough scrolls of flying, Golems have their dim immunity, and mutants have the extra limbs. All of them aside from snail are good though, don't feel that you have to use one of those three. I usually go with Elea.

Is there a reliable way to get potion of cure mutation?

I've been going in and out of the puppy cave for a while now hoping one will spawn, but there has to be an actual way to get them right?

>>11981037
Magic shops.

It'll be helpful to invest a bit.

>>11981037
Not really. Dungeon crawling or invest in a magic goods vendor. Try out a dungeon with a higher DL.

>>11981037
If you're really desperate, you can savescum before you view a magic shop list. If it's been long enough, or if it's the first time you've talked to them, the list resets each time. If you're trying to play "fairly", you'd have to go around visiting various towns to try to pick one up.

Do scrolls of flying work on all items, including artifact and "precious" items?

>>11981188
Yeah, that's how I got the Sniper Rifle of Death on my fairy gunner, among other slightly heavy artefacts.

When I first started, I ignored the karma system, and found out about the consequences the hard way.
Every guard in every village attacked me on site, barely ever giving me enough time to run.

I know this is a long shot, but is there a way to toggle displacement of interactable NPCs so I'm not being blockaded in every 3 steps I take?

>>11981506
You mean when you're trying to exit out a room, and they're just there standing? Use a rod of teleportation/Teleport Other Spell.


Or just dig through the fucking wall next to them, that always works (and it trains your mining skill!).

>>11981522

Well that's part of it, but mainly I mean just in general how I'll try to walk somewhere and they'll move in front of me and initiate conversation. I picked Dimensional Move as my first feat and I don't know how I would get by without it. Don't need those lame teleport rods.

What does training machine do?

Why the fuck does MP required for a spell go up with use?! This is the shittiest magic system, even if you grind forever it apparently still fucks you that way.

>>11981835
Mana cost scaling with spell effectiveness is a common, if unfortunate, means of keeping magic-users from being even more overpowered in the late-game.

I really wish it didn't though, I hardly feel stronger when my spell damage goes up 10% but I can only cast it 90% as many times.

>>11981835
>>11981859
That is why you're also supposed to train magic capacity.

And stockpile mana scrolls.

Ah, the memories.

I last played back in Elona+ 1.24, having stopped playing once I made it to Lost Irva and concluded the entire continent was "GRIND GRIND GRIND OR DIE".

I went spellcasting as my primary way of killing things, eventually settling on the spellcaster god for his amazing mp recovery ability.

North Tyris most people have went through, so nothing much to say there.

South Tyris didn't require much grinding from me to beat, and I actually didn't really feel that big of a jump in difficulty at first; both Metal Vesta and the spellcaster went down pretty easily via the tried and true tactic of "spam spells, don't be in melee".

Took me quite a while to beat Anubis though, mostly because he was the first enemy I had faced with that fucking rush move that meant that my usual plan of "don't be in melee range" didn't work because he could at a moment's notice hit me anyways and be right next to me. Didn't help that his weapon gave him heavy magic resistance, meaning my usual plan of "spam magic dart" was very ineffectual.

Eventually I managed to bring him down anyways via pets and grinding my magic dart like crazy, and from there it was smooth sailing until the Orphe/Chaos Unicorn fight. Ended up winning only by dragging just Orphe down (somehow without having the Unicorn come down too), using magic dart and blink until he went down, and then dealing with the Unicorn on it's own.

Rest of South Tyris went fine after that, only the end boss posed much trouble at that point and even he eventually went down once my asura pet procced a time stop followed up with a decapitation when he was probably about to use his bullshit massive heal AGAIN.

Continued next post...

>>11981894
>magic capacity
Only prolongs the inevitable. Better to go for the Diablo approach and try to get your regen up high, which I guess you do by spending plat on meditation (it looks like the regen mechanics might be a mystery as there's nothing on the wiki about them).

>>11981905
Anyways, I eventually offed all the South Tyris Chaos Fort bosses, and without being higher than maybe Level 60.

Hilariously, Siva was the easiest of the three; I remember back in original Elona offing the Cat Queen with thorn spam, and after grabbing a lot of items with thorns, grinding up my speed, and bringing a ridiculous amount of healing/defenses, Siva ended up offing himself on me.

The Dead Emperor wasn't much more difficult; stacked lots of resists, teleported away if he hexed me, and basically ground him down with Crystal Spear until he died.

Yerleswood was a nightmare, mostly because there's no way in hell to survive a hit from the Pile Driver without 50 billion years of grinding. I had to catch way too many Bells of Termination, outfit them all, and get a LOT of Resurrection charges to deal with him.

But he eventually went down, and with that done I moved on to Lost Irva.

I quit shortly afterwards because all the gods there were 50 times more bullshit than anything in South Tyris and were DESIGNED to make it so you had to grind like no tomorrow just to stand a chance in hell. MAYBE I could have handled the spellcaster (because lol spellcaster enemies), but even that would be brutal and I wouldn't even get any of their unique artifacts anyways.

Oh, and the straw that broke the camel's back was nerfing the black market, because having a good way to get rid of money AND get good equipment was apparently not allowed.

Anyways, what's changed from 1.24 to whatever the current version is?

>>11981926
>playing to win
Don't you enjoy raising a harem of cute pets and riding a jet fighter while searching for gear?

>>11981798
Str potential.

>>11981937
Yes, which is why I'm going to get back into this game.

Anyone have a changelog for the recent versions? The wiki only has it up to 1.26

What does the little yellow bar beneath your HP meter mean? It fills up as you take damage but that's all I've noticed.

Also, regarding the supposed "pet cooks you breakfast" thing, I've never had it happen (I woke up at the right time), do I have to sleep in my house or something?

>>11981835
It does suck, but once you get further on in the game you can do stuff like use mana rods and scrolls, and you can end up with high enough MP that most of the time you won't run out if you're just using offensive magic. Probably a bigger problem is that NPCs get resistance based on their level, going up about 1 step every 25 levels, which hits superb around...101? Can't remember off the top of my head. 100+ enemies get slight magic resistance as well, although that does cap pretty low. It's a hard life as a caster.

Once you get the Staff of Insanity from the Tomb boss, that will help out greatly. You can also build a really good intelligent wep that hits a higher magic multiplier than any artifact if you save scum to get the attribute stacked up. Takes forever, though.

>>11981926
You aren't really supposed to kill all the gods, though.

>>11981942
We lost the few people that did an actual translated changelog a while ago. A couple of those actually came from the Roguelike thread in /vg/. You'd probably have to check the Talk sections on the wiki for some stuff, but there's nothing complete out there. Eventually we'll probably get another google translated version of the newest logs up, but deciphering those always leaves errors.

>>11981979
Special bar. Link is here, although it the link itself is kind of a mess.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Special_action_%28Elona%2B%29#Special_actions_invoked_by_weapon_skill

The page hasn't been maintained for a while, though.

For the breakfast, the only requirement should be when you wake up and your pet's relationship level.

>>11981989
>>11981979

>>11981989
I was thinking the pet has to have the cooking skill too, don't they?

Is it even possible to play this game on a laptop keyboard? I get stuck trying to eat food in the tutorial.

>>11982057
i think that by holding 'alt' you can more easily press 2 directional buttons at once.

also, i don't know how your compuer works, but on my laptop keyboard there is 'numlock' button that turns some of the letters to numbers.

>>11982057
Most of the actions can be done by pressing a key, or a shift+key. You don't have to use the z key action wheel thing. The only problem with using a laptop would be movement, which makes it tough to move diagonally without a numpad. Check your F1 menu for the keys that do different actions.

>>11981988
Yeah, I forgot about how bullshit EVERYTHING there is.

So I remember there's a main quest for Lost Irva, and I'm currently stuck on Floor 7 because holy shit it's a complete clusterfuck.

Whoever thought enemies needed to scale up like the Void only even more deserves to die in a fire. Enemy resistance has scaled so horribly high that even Meteor does jack shit, and enemy HP is so high that even my horribly horribly overgrinded Magic dart (28d94 damage BEFORE the Scythe of Void's damage boost is factored in), is only barely knocking small fractions off of their life totals.

How am I supposed to handle the 7th floor? My HP still isn't very good (1446) and I don't know if my speed is enough anymore (463), and everything there hits like a truck and keeps healing each other and throwing stuff at me that hits hard and it's a complete clusterfuck.

Oh, and I see that they nerfed Resurrection.

>>11982137
Has change creature been nerfed yet?

If not simply change creature every enemy that is potentially threatening into something not so threatening.

Unless this dungeon is so monstrous that even rats are terribly deadly. Don't really have too much experience with Lost Irva myself.

>>11982164
Change creature?

Never heard of it, and the Cradle of Chaos scales everything up to at least level 140.

So yes, the RATS are terribly deadly.

Jumped ship from the 7th floor, and apparently now I've unlocked a shortcut from Lost Irva to North Tyris directly.

What quests are doable at the moment?

>>11982172
It's a rod. There's no true spell variant.

Uh, what's a jewel core of Nefia?

>>11982137
>>11982172

If you beat Aikage on the 7th floor, that's about as far as you can go in the main quest that's been implemented so far. Last time I checked the formula for enemies in the Cradle was something like level 140 + 1 level per floor after the first. So you're doing really well if you got that far.

The only quests so far are the volcano one that you get in Ulm-Leson, and the one that unlocks artifact "fusion" in Rust Plaza. I haven't seen a good explanation about how it works though, so completing the quest is pretty pointless. Completion involves getting Thalia to Fellow relationship, talking to Irma, talking to the elder, then Irma, then leaving town and going back in, and going back to the world map 6 squares above the Rust Plaza location.

>>11982164
Using change creature on exploding enemies and other super strong normals is very underrated. Of course, some other stuff would make enemies explode too, but CC rods are the most reliable way. It's just hard to remember to use them.

>>11982275
That's one of the things that you need for the artifact fusion thing, although I'm not sure if it's fusion anymore. You give that and a scroll of gain attribute to irma at her workshop, and you can put some random crap on an artifact. Seems to depend on what's on the core when you examine it. No idea if it has a limit or if you can do it to unique stuff.

>>11982282
After trying it in wizmode, I guess it does work on uniques, since I was able to add a pickpocket one to the Asteroid Belt. Seems like you can only do it once to each item, though.

>>11982282
Volcano quest?

>>11982291
Oh, never mind, found it.

I had to turn tail and run (yet again) because it was once again scaled incredibly fucking high.

How the fuck am I supposed to kill things with magic now? I have a level 178 magic dart and it still does basically jack shit at this point while everything can kill me in maybe 4-5 hits at the most.

>>11982296
Well, if you're using the Scythe, you can actually upgrade your magic damage a bit by switching to the Vital Flayer. The magic multiplier is about 1.45 times for the Scythe, as opposed to 2.2 times for the Flayer. I think the highest you can get is something around 2.4x by stacking "enhances spells" boosts on a living wep, but that takes forever.

Other than that, I don't think people usually make it that far before they give up on magic. I can't think of what else might help at that point.

>>11897085
Artificial fun.

>>11979992
>Aigis and Olympia
>generic

>>11982315
I thought magic was supposed to be horribly overpowered though. I mean the magic dart does 1316 damage on average before factoring in the 45% bonus from the Scythe of Void, although that's mostly because it's grinded to hell and back.

I thought about using the Vital Flayer, but the fact that it kills most of my stats is giving me second thoughts.

Part of it might just be that Lost Irva has absolutely no balance in it whatsoever and goes out of it's way to make trying to win without grinding 50 billion years impossible, but I'm worried I'm doing something wrong.

>>11982321
The implication was that there were OTHER generic girls, not that those were generic. It was late when I wrote that, so maybe it didn't end up being very clear. Upper right is an original as far as I know, but the two you mentioned and the one in the middle are all from games. I don't remember what the middle one is from. Not sure if the lower right is from something, but the design kind of seems like it.

Generic would be better if I could find stuff that met the request.

>>11982326
Dunno, I haven't seen anyone else make it that far just on magic before. That's pretty good damage, although other stuff might end up doing more when you factor in extra attacks. If you made it that far, I don't think you're doing anything wrong though.

But yeah, I think most of the problem is that there wasn't any thought put into actual balance, since the creator is long gone and most of what remains is just fan work tacking on extra stuff to the original game.

>>11982336
Wait, you mean having attacks rip maybe a very small sliver of HP from the target is normal in Lost Irva?

How the fuck are you supposed to kill anything there period?

>>11982354
It depends on where you are in Lost Irva, since the stuff in the Cradle gets that level boost if they're under 140 + the floor level usually. Otherwise, I think the other main difference is that everything can use a special bar regardless of their initial level there, whereas in the other 2 continents they have to be over...50? The chaos stuff on that boss floor might be even higher level though, since I forgot to check when I was there.

Anyway, we're over the bump limit now, so the thread is probably not gonna last that long now. Hopefully a few more people saw it and will give Elona a try.

>>11982372
Oh.

Anyways, managed to off the boss on that floor via digging out an alcove to make it so only one enemy could reach me at a time, and then slowly grinding them down with magic.

How much does the Ontogiri boost magic anyways?

I was thinking there was a way to do a custom map icon for your home now, since the map bmp file has spaces like on the char sheet. Anyone know how to use that? I don't remember seeing anyone mention it before.

>>11982406
The japanese wiki doesn't give an exact number. The one way I know of to check exactly would be to use elosnack, but can't do it at the moment. An imprecise way would be to use a buff spell that lists your unbuffed duration like holy shield, and see how how many turns it adds when buffed with the item equipped..

>>11982417
The US wiki says it boosts it by 300. so probably something like a 1.3 boost or something?

>>11982417
yep. it's an option on your sign. 0 puts it back to default, 1-whatever sets it to that slot.

>>11982372
Can you upload your sprite collection somewhere? You have some really nice stuff.

What the fuck? A malicious hand just stole 10k gold from me.

>>11983014
Truly, a malicious hand.

>>11982464
>>11982495
Thanks much.

>>11982747
As long as you don't mind Mega, yeah. There might be simpler hosting options still, but my favorite ones have ended up a lot rougher to use in the last few years, and I haven't tried to find a new one. Keep in mind there's a lot of crap that no one but me might be interested in there.

https://mega.co.nz/#!m4pG0RoI!fNXX0W2Pvc4j9zMdtlr69x6mEVVxOG_MKdmBNs88AKw

So, this just happened.

>>11983436
Is there a portrait sheet that's updated for the later ones? It looks like they're all pre-Elona+.

>>11983496
A lot of the japanese complete portrait sheets are still set up for use with normal Elona or with other mods that don't modify the face.bmp so much. Some of those sheets are from before Elona Plus, too. I haven't actually run into any sheets that are specifically from Plus, probably because the old Elona portraits were so crappy looking (since they were just imported and badly resized from RPGmaker) that pretty much any change would be better. If I knew somewhere that had some alternates from E+, I probably would pick them up.

One of the mods that has no english translation increases the portrait size for NPCs to the same as player portraits, which looks pretty nice. It's too bad that Plus didn't pick that up too.

I got a wish! What do I do with it!?

>>11983793
>>11976176

Seven league boots, you will not regret it.

So, I was on the ancient castle, and having some trouble with Wynan - I could barely hurt him, while he had killed my golden knight and was hitting me hard. I noticed there was a fountain in the room, and decided out of desperation to drink from it, in the hope that I'd somehow get a wish and be able to summon a god.

>>11983808
You got two in a row, impressive. Shame the first one passed you by.

Is there a way to boost stamina recovery aside from worshiping Kumiromi? Training performer is kind of a pain since it takes 20 stamina per try. On the note of gods, which one is the best end game? I'm enjoying Jure's healing spell but I doubt it will be useful at all later on.

>>11983808
One advantage to summoning a god there is that if you decide you want to get enough favor for that god's 3rd gift, the god will still be there once you do so. If you return to that location before praying for the god wep, you can pick up the special mostly useless artifact that they can give you without having to spend a wish especially to do so.

>>11983886
There's nothing that'd improve regen. I was resorting to stamina drain weps when using other gods besides Kumiromi so I could spam moves like shadow step. You can't pick up enough soda from the event vendors to help much either.

One of the many problems that the Plus developers didn't think about was that including a lot of stamina using skills makes it important to include more ways to get stamina back. Because of this, Kumiromi is still amazingly useful late-game. The guy above who made it to Act 3 as a caster used Itzpalt for his magic regen stamina ability, so that might be an option for someone who does more magic than physical stuff.

Well, I haven't played since 1.27, so I'm deciding to make a new character. I'm looking forward to all the neat new things they've added since then.

>>11983993
Does Regeneration improve stamina regen? I think it does, but only if you're waiting instead of resting.

Don't get many chances to ask, but since I keep forgetting I had might as well try it here: is there a crash bug with the number key shortcuts in Windows 8? I tried a clean install and was still getting crashes. Different compatability modes didn't help either.

>>11984007
Don't get your hopes up too much, since it doesn't seem like too many game changing things have been added since then. The 3rd continent is progressing a bit, but slowly.
>>11984285
You know, I was thinking that it might do that now. I was thinking it was originally on the japanese wiki, and I remember using it a lot when I was doing a 6 armed mutant to try to regen extra stamina. I don't remember it working fast enough to be worth having up all the time, so I had completely forgotten about it.

>>11984309
What I do to recover stamina is Drain Blood from my pet bell. It's like an infinite stamina battery.

Do pickaxes actually increase your success in mining? I seem to be doing fine with my hands right now.

>>11985379
The wiki says they're just furniture. My limited experience in mining would agree with that assessment.

>>11982315
What monster is this supposed to be?

When equipment belonging to me or my pets is damaged by acid, is there any recourse (some way to repair)? Or do I just throw the damaged piece away and find a new one.

>>11985679
Theres a fusion pot recipe that removes negative levels. Needs lemons. Alternatively you can throw money at it for upgrades to get it back up.

What are the max levels in this game as far as shopkeepers, skills levels, and character level go? The wiki says nothing.

>>11985702
None that i'm aware of, maybe its 999.

The dungeon cleaner in Vernis just got taken out in the random assassination event, dropping his card.

I saw that somebody wanted a mana crystal for their birthday, so I bought one from a shopkeeper, then went to the board to teleport to the questee. Turns out it was the shopkeeper I'd just bought it from.

Never change, Elona.

>>11985702
Skill level is 2000, shopkeeper I think just crashes if you decide to level them ridiculously high, and character level I think might be infinite or has the 2000 cap, not sure.

>>11985560
It's just Ultima from Final Fantasy Tactics. Although I guess it could replace the final boss in the second continent?

what the fuck?

>>11985880
I assume one of them got drunk and started a fight?

>>11985880
>Actual scene of King assassination

Weird that the cutscenes in the JP version were all cut, it was rather interesting to see what was going on while you were off doing explorer stuff.

Keep forgetting to ask if anyone knows the source of this artwork. It's an excellent replacement for the ingame backgrounds.

>>11985560
Yeah, as was mentioned before, it's not supposed to be a replacement for anything from the actual game. There are a huge amount of really well drawn sprites with characters from different games and anime specifically done for Elona.

>>11985702
There IS a point where shopkeepers are supposed to stop adding new inventory, and there was some part on the wiki for it. It's hard to say how accurate it was, but raising levels to 100 should pretty much get all you can get from shops. People experimenting with black markets have found that they can keep adding more pages of stuff, so while the stuff might not get better, there would be a lot more of it than other shops.

>>11985902
Yeah, this is actually a big problem if you summon gods in one place. If one gets drunk and kills another, the map can end up ruined.

>>11985911
There have been some attempts to contact the Plus developers to give them translation assistance. The guys that tried it never came back with a reply, though. A couple of anons have done summaries of the Plus cutscenes before, but I don't think they were saved anywhere.

For those that haven't seen it, the story synopsis of the first game was posted here:

http://elona.squares.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5025

The cutscene text (from Elona beta 1.17) WAS dumped here:

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Cut_scene

How do I gain weight back (not that it matters)? I have vomited/lost weight so many times I must look like a ghost.

Pic is the Elona gods as the Seven Heroes last boss from Romancing SaGa 2.

>>11986263
I was thinking that eating blessed food randomly will cause weight gain, but it's pretty rare. They put in stuff that will let you mess with everything but weight, including age. My characters usually end up vomiting a lot, too.

>>11986263
Simply eat a lot while not vomiting. That's it.

>>11985963
How do I use that as a background?

>>11986263
>>11986287
You can increase your weight permanently by zapping yourself with a cursed rod of Slow.

Does "it enhances your metabolism" mean I eat more often, less often, or something else (like boosts healing or something)?

Is there any way, besides throwing up, to cause your character to eat faster? I'm looking for Haven and Hearth style food-grinding techniques.

>>11986436
It increases your Healing skill.

You can also get hit by a Hungry Demon's special attack to increase hunger.

>>11986419
The ones I was talking about were the random ones that show up on the paper background during character creation. Maybe some other stuff, but can't remember at the moment. The ones these were made for were the g1.bmp-g8.bmp files in the Graphic folder.

The problem with using interface mods is that every time a new version is released, you have to check the file modified dates, then the file contents itself to see what was modified before you overwrite it. Even if you don't mind it, you spoil yourself by having to see whatever new graphical stuff was put in every update.

Why is Noyel the best town?

a. That snowy footstep crunch
b. Quiet, subdued atmosphere
c. The winter festival
d. Awesome church
e. Far away from the huddled masses of humanity

Did I miss any?

>>11986436
Binge eating is actually pretty bad for your character. They can develop Anorexia, which causes them to throw up any solid foods after eating regardless of what it is, causing them to starve to death afterwards. The only way to "cure" that would be to drink milk until it goes away.

You could just travel overworld with a bunch of food, and eat as the days pass by.

>>11986740
Piano soundtrack, fire giant mayhem, free snow, pickpocketing dead trees, respawning kids on the playground.

>>11986758
It's also worth mentioning that that the stat gains from food are increased the hungrier you are when you eat it, so eating a load of food in one go isn't as efficient as eating the bare minimum.

Though if you are eating the bare minimum, you might start starving in the middle of a fight or something, so watch out for that.

I've never been to Noyel before. You guys are making me want to make a visit.

>>11987695
Its not that long of a walk.
Bring some food anyway, and a bit of cargo from whatever town you're in. Guaranteed profits.

What's up with this whole
>are you a werewolf?
thing? I can ask just about any citizen and sometimes I have the option to say they're a werewolf and they'll be executed and I gain 5 fame.

Is there any point to not just execute them? Are they even werewolves? Does it even matter?

>>11988328
Having a werewolf in town means that citizens will get killed every so often in town "by an unseen hand". It doesn't really affect you, but it can get annoying for quests if the person you're supposed to talk to is suddenly assassinated.

If you talk to each citizen individually, you'll find out who the werewolf is, indicated by their title that appears after their name.

There are two ways to kill the werewolf: one is personally killing it yourself, which is tough if you're not well equipped to fight a level 30 monster, or executing it via the townsfolk, where it'll be killed on the spot.

>>11988339
But sometimes "xxxxx the Werewolf male" doesn't give the "this man is a werewolf" option when you confront him. Is that intentional, or is there some requirement I have to meet before I'm allowed to call him out.

>>11986810
Noyel was nice in normal Elona since you could use it to ruin your karma, then just buy it back by giving cure corruption potions to Pael. They sort of "finished" that quest in Plus, so it won't let you give potions continuously anymore.

The Holy Well is there too, but it refilled so slow that it never seemed worth it. There's also a chance that it gives you nothing.

>>11988384
I'm sort of confused by the werewolf thing myself, but when I was spawning some werewolf detectives to look at stats, the first one I was able to confront, but the ones afterwards didn't give the accusation option. So maybe there's some sort of time limit between accusations?

In order to craft change material scrolls, I'll need "Generator" materials. I haven't found a single one of these yet, and I'm wondering, which material spot will give me the best chance of finding them. Is there a particular level of dungeon I should be looking in?

>>11989963
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Materials

Push up your material gathering skills like detection, mining, etc and you should get rarer materials. Deeper dungeon level = better materials, harder to harvest

Has the Elona plus pastebin been getting updates?

If so can someone link it?

Can someone reupload the lastest version of the monstergirl sprites? The latest link didn't seem to work.

>>11990288
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>>11952739


It works fine.

So there's this thing http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Astral_Light_Pen

In this page it says the Astral Light Pen can be used to copy unique boss monsters and such but one of the requirements is that you reach soulmate status. How do you even do that with hostile enemies? I'm under the impression chucking love potions at them doesn't work because they're already hostile or something.

>>11990528
Chucking love potions does work. It's really slow after a point though.

Also there's a graveyard in Lost Irva where all the bosses you've killed are neutral NPCs so you can do it there with gifts and crap instead.