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Happy Rumia Day, /jp/!

>> No.11949073

y-you too...

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>>11949065
Please show your support and appreciation for this precious little girl.

>> No.11949076

i want to use rumia as a fucktoy and cum inside of her

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it's heartening to see that I'm not the only one looking forward to celebrating Rumia's big day !

>> No.11949081

>>11949076
Please do not sexualize little Rumia.

>> No.11949083

Oh wow, I've been so busy I didn't even notice a month passed. I'll get to work right away.

>> No.11949086

http://www.pixiv.com/tag/Every%207th%20Of%20Each%20Month%20is%20Rumia%27s%20Day

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>>11949083
>I'll get to work right away.
On what?

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>>11949081
it can't be helped she is too sexual

>> No.11949095

>>11949091
Writing. I've been meaning to pump something out for a while. And not in the way >>11949092
is trying to.

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>>11949092

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Shrine guy again
Finding the frame for my pocket icon was easy enough
I place her on my nightstand so that I get to wake up and see my little Rumia first thing in the morning !

But cutting a hole into a book that is just large enough for it to fit in snugly is another thing altogether
I'm one-quarter through the book
Figure I'll probably be done next month...ish?
Until that time I need to be careful with her, she travels with me a lot

>>11949095
I have to remind myself to write every day
Even if it is garbage, I still gave my mind a workout and have the added benefit of knowing what didn't work
Try a journal !

>> No.11949118

>>11949092
Please don't post Rumia's warm, moist crotch region.

>> No.11949143

>>11949118
Do you think a person would be surprised at how warm and slippery her crotch actually is? I bet some people wouldn't believe how slimy the inside of her slit felt.

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>>11949115
This will also probably be the last update I will post in the Rumia thread
It's already straying into attention-whoring territory, which is distracting me from this thread's cute and innocent purpose !

Thank you for your interest fellow Rumia worshippers
May we continue to find solace and shelter in the shade

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>>11949143
Any more of that talk and we're fightin'

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>>11949143
Your intestine feels warm and slimy too

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>>11949161
For some reason, I don't mind mild guro if it's Rumia who's doing the disemboweling
Little girls need nutritious meals.

>> No.11949177

I want to put my finger in Rumia's vagina just once just to see how it feels.

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How would you convince Rumia not to eat you?

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>>11949183
I wouldn't mind
If I'm lucky, she'll let Yuyuko do the job so I won't have to talk to shittyeiki

>> No.11949190

>>11949185
then i put my penis in

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Rumia is hopping on the bandwagon!

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I love my daughter, oh so much.

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>>11949986
Can I marry your daughter?

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Happy Rumia Day! Please take good care of yours!

>> No.11950014

Rumia is scary!
Keep your daughter away from me, dude!

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>>11950005
Be prepared to pay a steep dowry.

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>>11950014
But she needs to eat...
and how could you say no to this face ?

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>>11950021
Anything for little Rumia!

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>>11950033
Getting groceries for my daughter has never been easier !

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Did you all vote for Rumia?

>> No.11950071

>>11950027
"Be your temple" they say.

Well, this temple got guardians who are mighty serious about their job.

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>>11950056
I sure did

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>>11950056
I did !
Onward to number one by 2035 !

>>11950071
Your warrior monks are no match for my cute and hungry Nobunaga

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>>11950074
No, Rumia
Don't touch that filthy thing !

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>>11950036
Hey, don't let her eat too much!

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>>11950082
No such thing

>> No.11950216

>>11949095
Please let us know if you write anything you're happy with.

>> No.11950218

If for any god-forsaken reason i ever end up having to fight for my dear life against her i'll go all out with every last bit of strenght there's to carve from my body.

If i lose, then i'd have gone full Nerone on my body,contracted and now-coriaceous muscles bitterened by the lactic acid, every bit of glucose or body fat burned up, the blood so deprived of oxygen that the surface of Mars would be more hospitable atmosphere-wise, so that when she finally feast on my corpse she get less than what she expended taking it.

If i win then i'll bring down on her all the fury and repressed rage accumulated in all my years of life, mine, yours, his, his dog, and all the humans it (sic.) killed too so that when i'm done she'll swear off human meat for the rest of it's life for the fear to receiving another beating even half as bad as the one i administered.

You want to live along with humans? Fine by me. You harm them? That's will be one hell of a paddling.

>> No.11950264

>>11950218
Just kill her if you can, we don't even know if she can eat anything else.

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>>11950218
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento_in_Strict_Sense/Rumia
>Since a human's power can't compare to a youkai's in the first place, it would be impossible to put up a fight within darkness that renders even torchlight useless.
Try fighting what you can't see and cannot overpower.
It's possible that Rumia has fought thousands of scrubs like you over the centuries, and knows how to quickly dispatch you, like a farmer dispatching a chicken with a simple twist of the neck.

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>>11950367
It's also possible that the whole "attacking humans is a youkai's job" is an entire put-on, and that Rumia only needs to scare people from time to time in order to perpetuate her own existence in the minds of the human villagers.

She might even receive pre-processed human fillets from Yukari as an honourarium in return for her acting role as a high-visibility youkai.

Who knows? Anything can be conjured up by the mind when no light is shed on the issue.

>> No.11952402

What would be the best way to serve and give witness to Rumia?

Serve yourself as meat?
Start a sect and hope that your faith will help her become a god?
Buy her cute clothes and shoes?


Please let me know what would be the best way to further my worship.

>> No.11952414

>>11952402
You should form a cult that worships Rumia. And make sure that the cult gives human sacrifices to her.

>> No.11952441

>>11952414
Securing and burning sacrifices violates a lot of fire codes and zoning ordinances, apparently.

Also, it isn't even confirmed that Rumia eats humans anyway...

>> No.11952457

>>11952402
>Serve yourself as meat?
But then she'd have to go through the trouble of digesting you. Best to just put your sausage directly into her large intestine.

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>>11952402
Let Rumia manifest through you and kill/eat people.

>> No.11952824

>>11952629
Rumia's been making the effort as of late to switch to ethically-slaughtered free-range humans, so I want to respect her wishes.

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>>11952824
Rumia swears off eating living humans and offers you free canned human that she cooked herself. The humans were grown by kappa engineers and rendered brain-dead before birth.

Do you accept?

http://exhentai.org/g/643562/2969e2bd83/

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>>11952872
Actually, that's a very interesting question.

Would eating a brain-dead human be ethically better or worse than killing and eating a more conscious animal?

In what sense is eating humans worse than eating other animals in general? Where do we draw the line between humans and non-humans anyway? Would the brain-dead human in your example be considered a human, an individual?

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>>11952629
In due time, anon.

>>11954273
Notwithstanding concerns of disease and toxicity (which I understand causes people who engage in cannibalism to slowly go insane from ingesting toxins in the human body) it is indeed a tricky question. Biologically it is a human being, however in this case there is no hope of the body attaining consciousness. This sets it apart from cases where there is a hope of recovery or attainment of consciousness.

In these cases, the brain has been rendered into slurry. Therefore, the mind cannot hope to process thoughts or sensory information; it seems to me that this mental non-existence precludes it from personhood. It cannot feel pain or anything else, something that even the dumbest of animals can recognize and take action to avoid.

I imagine that actually supporting living human carcasses would require a lot of time and resources though, and would eventually switch to simply growing sheets of human tissue in labs, rendering the above question moot.

...why do so many Rumia treads veer off into discussions of cannibalism?

>> No.11954891

>>11954273
Are we taking human or youkai point of view?

Those are completely different problems. A youkai would likely not concern herself with most ethical (and health) problems of humans eating other humans. Especially if the "don't harm another sapient/sentient being" objection is removed from the equation.

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>>11954891
Remember, apart from the feral yokai that are at the level of animals, Reimu has observed that the yokai of Gensokyo are far removed from the classical definition we understand them by. I believe that she refers to them as "odd people with yokai traits," or something along those lines.

Even still, there are additional questions to be asked, now that this aspect has been raised. The humans that get imported into Gensokyo aren't exactly valued members of society. You have petty criminals who won't be missed and the suicidal who seek death. Perhaps the yokai wash their hands of any ethical problems by reasoning that they are doing these individuals a service (in the case of the suicidal) or doing humanity a service (in the case of the criminals). Death isn't being delivered to anyone not seeking or deserving of it, after all.

They don't have to concern themselves with issues of disease, however.

>> No.11954946

>>11954889
the toxins are a myth, btw. Eating anything that isn't brain is fine, but eating brain give you Kuru or other prion related issues- which is a bit like mad cow disease.

>> No.11954963

>>11954891
I'm not quite sure to what extent are we even able to take a non-human point of view when it comes to morality. The only true moral agents we know of, at least so far, are us humans and we don't really know of any distinctly "non-human" moral codes either. It is possible that morality in itself is something exclusive to us humans.

I suppose the answer to that question would depend on our understanding of moral truth.

If we are moral relativists, then the question becomes kind of meaningless since there doesn't exist any universal true morality. A youkai's "morals" would be just as correct or false than anyone else's. It becomes a matter of perspective or merely taste.

If, on the other hand, we are moral absolutists, then different understandings of morality would only be as correct as they reflect the universal moral truth. In that case we have the possibility of finding a true answer to whether or not eating humans is right or wrong (assuming we classify youkai as proper moral agents). If murder of humans is really wrong, then it wouldn't matter who's doing it, as long as they can be held as moral beings.

>> No.11954974

>>11954919
Humans aren't exactly concerned with well-being of things they eat, even if they're aware of their intelligence. And we shouldn't expect youkai to be ethically superior.

Whatever feelings they have for humans are feelings we have for pets, rather than universal feelings towards human race. Petting the cute little miko while taking a bite of human canned meat is exactly what I'd expect them to do, by exact analogy with human behavior.

But it's not like what you're saying is wrong. Rather, it sounds exactly like arguments hunters justifying their hobby like to make.

>> No.11954981

>>11954974
>sounds exactly like arguments hunters justifying their hobby like to make
"...so I'd expect a human-hunting youkai would make them too" is what I wanted to add to finish the reasoning, but didn't for some reason.

>> No.11954984

>>11950367

I'd be totally fine, but then again I'm a 37 year old grand wizard.

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>>11954974
Well yeah, that's what I was getting at. The yokai have constraints unique to Gensokyo (i.e. they can't eat human villagers as a sustainable source of food) but they have a certain paternal relationship with humans as well. Eating "worthless" humans is the best compromise they can come up with.

Kind of like how hipsters buy free-range, cruelty-free chicken at Whole Foods so that they can continue to have delicious asian fusion cuisine without worrying about supporting evil agribusinesses.

To tell you the truth, I kind of admire Yukari's system for its practicality...little Rumia is a growing girl, and need nutrition after all !

>>11954963
I think ZUN explicitly states that yokai don't operate according to any recognizable code of ethics or morals.

Oh well, that all goes out the window once hunger is knocking at the door

>>11954946
Ah, okay. It's been years since I did my undergrad biology.

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>>11954946
Isn't the brain incredibly unhealthy to eat even without prions? It's my knowledge that brain is loaded with cholesterol.

Only healthy eats for growing yokai girls!

>> No.11955101

>>11954963
>The only true moral agents we know of, at least so far, are us humans and we don't really know of any distinctly "non-human" moral codes either. It is possible that morality in itself is something exclusive to us humans.
Uh, no? Other animals work on different levels of morality as well, but as social animals with highly-developed brain it's just much more pronounced with us.

>If we are moral relativists, then the question becomes kind of meaningless since there doesn't exist any universal true morality.
No it doesn't. Just because there is no sort of all-encompassing "law" that arbitrates what is moral and what isn't doesn't mean there are no aspects of morality whatsoever. That's total garbage.

>> No.11955199

>>11955101
>Other animals work on different levels of morality as well
Please show me an example of real moral behaviour in animals.
Animals don't possess a moral understanding, they don't do things because they're "right" or punish others for doing things that are "wrong". Their motivations are based on survival, not moral rightness.
And yes, some people argue that human morality has similar basis, but in that case we ought to change the definition of morality altogether. If that is true, morally right acts wouldn't be what' is "right", but rather what helps our species survive. Traditional concept of morality would cease to exist.

>Just because there is no sort of all-encompassing "law" that arbitrates what is moral and what isn't doesn't mean there are no aspects of morality whatsoever.
I never said that. I said that if moral relativism is a correct view, concepts such as right and wrong lose their meaning. If there exists no "all-encompassing law" as you put it, right and wrong become nothing but opinions. There would still exist some "aspects of morality" since everyone would act according to their own personal moral code, but it wouldn't correspond to anything real and true, thus becoming nothing but a mere opinion.

>> No.11955518

Can we get back to discussing how we would descend into cannibalism in order to bring ourselves closer to Rumia?

>> No.11955527

>>11955518
not yet, sorry

>>11955199
>Please show me an example of real moral behaviour in animals.
Your use of the word "real" suggests that you intend to move the goalposts as long as any examples are given, until you can restrict morality to things that are only human, or write the behaviour off as... oh there it is, "survival, -not- moral righteousness". See below, I guess.
>some people argue that human morality has similar basis
Yes, I wholly argue that human morality is only different from any other animal's (underdeveloped) "morality" by virtue of humans being very social and having highly-developed brains, as I said.
>If that is true, morally right acts wouldn't be what' is "right", but rather what helps our species survive.
Sort of. You don't need to jump straight from "we do moral things because it's absolutely right" to "only because it helps our survival" and draw a line between them. If how and what we determine is "right" is founded from what helps a species survive, then it's still "right" regardless.

If we go back to youkai for a second, youkai will cease to exist when they have no influence over humans, or no purpose. It could be viewed as morality righteous to help youkai survive by getting them to achieve some purpose, like in Kogasa's case, scaring humans. This would help her in no strictly human way, yet because it would help her survival, it would be "right". Does being based on survival devalue that righteousness? No.

>> No.11955533

>>11955527
>>11955199
>I said that if moral relativism is a correct view, concepts such as right and wrong lose their meaning.
>right and wrong become nothing but opinions
No. This is a common argument coming almost entirely from people who already subscribe to moral absolutism and it's incredibly frustrating. It's just a tactic used to devalue morality under such a system so that you can point at it, say it's terrible and conclude that moral absolutism is superior (and is therefore correct? wut?). It ignores the entire bloody point.

"Everyone acting according to their own personal moral code" would be correct, but this isn't arbitrary, nor is it random. You can have people who might think murdering others is moral for whatever reason, but not only can have systems in place to suppress this behaviour, there is the capacity to reason that murdering is bad by some objective standard. "Not corresponding to anything real and true" is incorrect.

You can only say that concepts of right and wrong lose their meaning if you're already coming from the world where right and wrong are absolute, that absoluteness is the -only- reason they were right and wrong, and that you would be getting rid of said absoluteness. If moral relativism is correct and always was correct, then there is zero difference; they don't "lose" their meaning, they have the exact same meaning as always. You are operating from a biased standpoint.

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>>11955533
>You can have people who might think murdering others is moral for whatever reason, but not only can have systems in place to suppress this behaviour
But the thing is, what right would you have to force your own moral viewpoints on others? I mean that as a genuine question. If everyone's moral views are equal in the sense that there exists no objective standard for their correctness, why and with what authority would you force others to adhere to your own standards? How exactly would everyone's moral viewpoints be more than just ordinary opinions?

>there is the capacity to reason that murdering is bad by some objective standard.
I'm somewhat confused by your last statement here. You said that we'd need some kind of an objective standard to judge actions as good or bad, but if there exists some kind of an objective standard by which the morality of an action can be measured, isn't that moral absolutism?

>You are operating from a biased standpoint.
Actually, you are right about that. The way I presented myself did presuppose a position in the matter. I may have used unnecessarily demeaning rhetoric as well and I apologize for that. That was entirely my own fault.

>they don't "lose" their meaning, they have the exact same meaning as always.
I think you are right about that.
Assuming you've always seen and defined morality from a relativistic viewpoint, the terms wouldn't lose anything. But from a objectivist perspective, the whole concept of morality would cease to exist, since there couldn't be any objective moral standard. It would become a lie.

How about we draw this to a close? Even though it's fun, we're getting ridiculously off-topic here.

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>>11955834
I second that notion!

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>>11955834
This guy draws such a cute Rumia.

>> No.11955906

i wanna fuck rumia

HARD

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>>11955906
Don't be so lewd, anon-kun.

>> No.11955957

/jp/ - Young Hegelians

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Ahhh, it's not even the 10th yet here until two hours have passed...

I am a great fan of little Rumia and read up lots on her and even roleplayed as her for several years now, which greatly helped build my own image of this pure, innocent girl who I see being driven a lot by her feral instincts.

I know that sources say that she does seem to possess at least a little bit of intellect, yet I like to think of her as a klutz, maybe even one youkai who is not very old compared to others to begin with, and hence lacks maturity and experience which just adds up to her child-like appearance. However, she is still a youkai on the inside, and when it comes to securing her food of choice, her insticts help a great deal to accomplish those goals.

I also like to think of Rumia as one of the few known youkai who still managed to stay true to her own roots, even though the introduction of the spellcard rules forces her to not harm anyone who uses them themself. Her stubbornness and pride of being one of the few remaining old-fashioned youkai out there likely tends to get her into miko trouble, but she won't let herself get discouraged by her environment changing so much, and just keeps eating what little humans she can catch without spellcard rule infringements, i. e. humans that randomly end up from the outside for whatever trivial reason.

... I may be rambling by this point, so I'll cut my bubble short for now. It's just a thing I really adore about characters who have so little background to them on which you can (hopefully reasonably) build your own interpretations.

Does /jp/ have an idialized picture of Rumia, or does everyone think their own part about Rumia?

Having been to a few of these threads before but not always having had enough time to read and post before... I am happy to see just how much some of you anons appreciate Rumia.

With that said, Happy Rumia Day!

Wanted to post a tribute to the Belliest, but it may be too lewd

>> No.11955993

The guy who consistently refers to her as "little Rumia" gives me the creeps.

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>>11955901
Cute and pedoerotic

>> No.11956041

>>11955834
Not him, but objective does not equal absolute.

An objective standard is one where if two people both accept it, they cannot reach different conclusions about morality of the same act given the same information about it. Or stronger yet, if both adhere to it, they cannot act differently given the same choice. Whether such standard is correct is a different matter entirely.

Just wanted to point this out. Please feel free to not reply and keep posting Rumia.

>> No.11956148

>>11955965
Thanks for taking the time to punch out your own thoughts. I'll be sure to add my own soon.

>> No.11956206

>>11955965
>and even roleplayed as her
You disgust me.

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>>11956206
What's so bad about it?

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>>11956002
Oh, very.

>> No.11956348

>>11956332
You're a filthy pervert that seeks to wear the skin of an innocent little girl. You're a modern day Ed Gein, as it were.

>> No.11956357

>>11956348
He lives somewhere in the time zone that covers Eastern Europe.

Please understand that enjoyment of cute female things through imitation is normal behaviour amongst slavs, turks, and arabs, and that he does not want the little girl to rub the lotion on its skin.

God help us if he's finnish, though.

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If Rumia becomes my daughter what do I do if I become aroused by her during our fun activities?

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>>11956357

Is this really a cultural thing or are you being sarcastic, anon?

If it's the former, that's the first time I had heard of it.

> the little girl to rub the lotion on its skin.

Oh man, that sounds too lewd for this thread. Please let's get back to posting more cute Rumia.

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>> No.11956594

How durable is Rumia's body? If I shot her with a bullet, could she die if it hit an artery or major organ?

>> No.11956604

>>11956594
Conventional weapons don't work on youkai. Even if you were to behead them with a kitchen knife, unless its some kind of artifact or family heirloom it'll be about as fatal as a papercut.

>> No.11956606

>>11955834
>But the thing is, what right would you have to force your own moral viewpoints on others? I mean that as a genuine question. If everyone's moral views are equal in the sense that there exists no objective standard for their correctness, why and with what authority would you force others to adhere to your own standards?

If there is no morality that is binding on everyone, then there is no prohibition against imposing my morality on others except if my own morality prohibits it.

>> No.11956611

>>11956604
>Conventional weapons don't work on youkai.

But Momotarou was able to defeat an ogre by repeatedly stabbing it with a needle.

>> No.11956634

>>11956594
>>11956604
>>11956611
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento_in_Strict_Sense/Youkai
>There are definitely exceptions, but many fall towards this trend.
>*Youkai have stronger bodies than humans, so even if they're split into five parts, they heal right away.
>*Youkai are more easily affected by belief than humans, and as a result spiritual damage can cause fatal wounds.

>In extermination, one does not use weapons that cause physical damage. Weapons with an "origin" are more preferable.
>Youkai are weak to spiritual attacks such as names or traditions.

>> No.11956677

>>11956611
It must have counted as a spiritual weapon.

>> No.11956710

>>11956611
Okay, they work in that sense. They just don't cause any persisting damage.

>> No.11956819

>>11956677
It described exactly what a "spiritual" attack is right in that post and you ignored it.

>> No.11957007

>>11956634
So if a human had enough will to survive (eg. A loved one back home or a cause to fight for) then he (or her) could muster enough "belief energy" into his (or her) own strikes and actually harm the youkai?

>> No.11957021

>>11956634
>even if they're split into five parts, they heal right away

Imagine keeping a cute youkai captive and doing horrible things to her body, only for her to heal so you can do them again.

>> No.11957025

>>11957021
What would prevent her from just eating you?

>> No.11957027

>>11957025

chains and ofuda seals

>> No.11957037

>>11957007
More like if he believed his hands were magically enchanted, they'd be magically enchanted.

>> No.11957046

>>11957027
If someone were holding Rumia in bondage, is there anyone who would eventually come rescue her?

>> No.11957047

>>11957027
You mean the seal and chains that aren't tying her down anymore after you cut her into pieces?

>> No.11957336

>>11957047
You could uback harpoons so that even when they are cut the pieces are still chained down.
Also, since they heal back one could harvest meat from her forever and eat it, would be a nice ironic punishment.

Thinking of it, weren't some robots that powered themselves by "eating" snails and insects developed?
If one could make them run on meat...

Guys? I think I've discovered perpetual motion!

>> No.11957658 [DELETED] 

>>11957047
*farts in ur face*

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>>11957046
Me, of course.

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>>11955965
It’s really hard to come to any sort of extensive conclusion regarding what kind of personality Rumia has, how she lives her life, and so forth, without employing a lot of conjecture or assumptions that have no basis in canon. It doesn’t help that ZUN created her largely as a throwaway joke that was intended to help distinguish the Windows series of games from their PC-98 successors; it is made quite clear in EoSD and beyond that she is weak for a yokai and poses little threat to the main characters. This therefore makes her ominous-sounding powers (manipulation of darkness) sound ridiculous. ZUN has found little use for her in any other role, as she has been relegated to the status of a background character since The Grimoire of Marisa was published in 2009.

It is probably for the best that I list what little we can conclusively say about her. To start off with the obvious, Rumia is a yokai with relatively weak powers, for a yokai anyway. They most likely hinder her in effectively attacking humans, and it is apparent that they only exist to protect her from light, which is rather ruinous to her health. She has no broader aims or goals, and she spends her days and nights wandering about Gensokyo, randomly attacking people she runs into. Rumia has the simplistic mentality and reasoning of a child, although she is able to read Aya’s article about her. Her ribbon-amulet, despite sounding as equally ominous as her powers, is never further addressed in canon.

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>>11957825
As with many topics, there are few facts regarding Rumia’s existence that have little wiggle room for debate. Making any broader claims inevitably requires speculation based on possible clues we can find in the canon. I detest the current practice of using broad conjectures and assumptions to completely change a character into something that is more palatable to fan tastes. In this case, however, I must realize that dots can be safely connected, as long as the connection are liberally supported with evidence. I will attempt to do this tonight. Until then, please feel free to comment and point out anything that I might have missed or gotten wrong. I’ll try and give citations later on.

>> No.11957832

>>11957825
Speaking of canon, fan artists always make it too big.

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>>11957832
I've given up on insisting on a strict adherence to the Rumia's dress. Even if they get the size right, they wind up omitting the white fringes or turning it into a bowtie. Or they'll replace her cravat with a necktie. Or they'll get her shoes wrong. And so on, and so forth.

Small potatoes I guess. I've only seen one instance where a radical modification of her wardrobe was an improvement, however.

>> No.11957886

>>11957882
That isn't helped by the fact that canon depictions of Rumia vary themselves on the details.

>> No.11958060

>>11957882
It's not like a person can't have a varied wardrobe, without much variation. I've got a wide variety of grey sweaters and black pants, so any depiction of me wearing both would be 'accurate'.

>> No.11958184

>>11958060
You're probably right, I shouldn't be so anal over this kind of thing.

>> No.11958657

>>11957007
>>11957037
No. "Spiritual attacks" are not attacks in the usual sense. "Spiritual" in this sense are things like traditions, adhering to your word, your convictions and rationale, your pride, the sense of self, your mentalities, that sort of stuff. Youkai are in essence these alone, as they are really "just" made up explanations for things. If you can attack or contradict what makes a youkai what it is, then its existence is threatened, so it's natural that attacking these things causes "damage" to a youkai.

Like if you had a youkai that thought it was really good at hide-and-seek. Beating it in hide-and-seek constitutes a "spiritual" attack. The contrast against humans is that humans are seen as physically weak but spiritually resolute, while youkai are physically strong but spiritually vulnerable.

>> No.11958701

This Rumia day sucked.

>> No.11959043

>>11957743
What if the person holding her captive offered to share her with you?

>> No.11959133

>>11958657
So, you kill youkais like you kill pits? With sheer dwarven stubbornness and a roll to disbelieve?

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>>11957829
Like most 2hus, it is virtually impossible to place her physical age: she could be two years old at the time of EoSD, or she could be as old as humans have been afraid of the dark. The closest we can come to determining her physical existence is by dating her appearance in Gensokyo. A Bunbunmaru article published on September 18, 2001 states that sightings of Rumia by Gensokyoians had been cropping up since the summer of 2001.

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>>11960102
The facet of her personality that most people focus on, by contrast, is Rumia’s consumption of humans. I can’t say that her taste for human flesh is a put-on without going into baseless speculation, but I can lay out her attitude towards her role as a yokai. It’s also worth looking at Akyuu’s article of her, and how it contrasts with other parts of PMiSS.

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>>11960111
Rumia isn’t really enthusiastic about anything in particular, and this includes her job as a yokai, which is to attack humans. Note her conversation with Aya:

>Aya: So your lifestyle has no sense of purpose? It feels like there are more youkai who don't feel like learning or working lately. It's quite depressing.
>Rumia: Attacking humans is a youkai's job.
>Aya: But are you exerting any effort in attacking humans?
>Rumia: Lately, humans won't let me attack them. This other time, I got beaten up instead.
>Aya: It's because of that that you don't maintain your dignity as a youkai. At the very least, you should be blending into the darkness at night and waiting along the roads.
>Rumia: Ugh, that's too much effort.

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>>11960115
Ultimately, he does recognize an innate duty, as a yokai, to attack humans – much in the same way that a duck inexplicably feels the need to fly south for the winter. Whether it’s a duty that must be fulfilled regardless of her taste for it, or an animal instinct that sprouts from the subconscious, it’s clear either way that her heart isn’t that into it. Rumia openly states that she doesn’t need her powers during the night, however this doesn’t cause her to shift into predator mode: she continues to wander Gensokyo, only attacking those whom she randomly runs into. Put simply, filling her belly with human meat wouldn't be a high priority for Rumia, if she bothered to have priorities at all. This follows a similar trend that Akyuu notes in her ending monologue in PMiSS. Relative to yokai-human relations as they existed during her previous incarnations, Akyuu notes that things have never been better for both groups. Yokai are content to live off of other foodstuffs and farm humans for existence-sustaining belief, and instances of humans being eaten by yokai are rare. Many of the yokai danger levels are inflated as a result, Akyuu admits.

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>>11960122
(Correction: the first line should read "Ultimately, she does...)

It is highly doubtful that Rumia no longer intends on actively swearing off human flesh. However, her current portrayal in the fandom overemphasizes her role as an attacker and consumer of humans, a Ted Bundy in little girl form and (usually) free of sexual deviancies. The evidence listed above appears to suggest that this is a gross and unfair distortion of the facts, and that she is much less of a threat to humanity than Yukari or the SDM in terms of sheer body count. It would be disingenuous to completely airbrush her existence as a yokai from portrayals of her in future fan content, however I feel that the evidence displayed above suggests that this aspect shouldn’t be allowed to define her completely. Rather than seeing her as a man-eating yokai in cute loli form, I feel that viewing Rumia as a cute magical girl with lingering yokai tendencies would be more accurate, constructive, and fair towards her canon existence.

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>>11959043
Get out

>> No.11960504

>>11960143
cool essay dude i enjoyed it

>> No.11960692

I really did enjoy it though

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Thanks for the love, guys!

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>>11957027
Good man!

>> No.11962321

>>11949072
>precious girl
She is a disgusting man eating youkai, I wonder what the shrine maiden is waiting for

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