/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Anyone wants something colored/edited?

Don't be shy.

Please help me stop playing with snes games, they don't make me draw
I'm a shitty artist so nothing is lost, though

>>11940791
pour mtn dew into you're snes

>>11940800
I'm emulatin dude
nobody owns a real snes in flesh and blood today

>>11940787
Edit my brain directories so I can be a better artist

>>11940813

Don't be so lazy! Practice more!

>>11940816
Okay, I'll give Denam another ninja level and I'm done with games for today

Maybe if I practice long enough I can make something good!

Anyone else feel that having new music you really like is a huge factor in getting yourself to draw? It happened to me twice, where I started drawing way more after putting together a new playlist of songs. It also felt like exercising every day made it much easier for me to deal with the stressful part of drawing things that were difficult for me.

>>11940827

Yeah, new music is a huge boost for my inspiration.

>>11940824
Yomo
samurai
alg: 70
front: 3 slice
back: 1 iainuki

Myounes
phantom
alg: 40
front:2 softrend
back: 2 nightmare

what's the Youmu element anyway? earth, water, air or soft?

>>11940829
if only it were easy to find music I liked. Music affects my mood so much that if I listen to the wrong type of music it might diminish my mood instead of improve it.

>>11940842

Just look for a regularly updated channel for the style of music you like on youtube.

>>11940827

For me at the moment I actually tend to listen a small set of music on repeat. Maybe it's a trance state that helps me.

>>11940827
Some songs inspired me so much I build entire stories based on what feelings they give me. Music is the best inspiration you can get, but I think you need to be in a somewhat comforting area for it to properly take effect on you.

>>11940861
>somewhat comforting area for it to properly take effect on you.

Depends I guess, I can put on headphones in the train and start doodling if I have a comfortable seating.

I couldn't even hold onto the pen for more than 5 minutes today when trying to draw a face. The moment I run into something hard I want to put it down then fap out of boredom and stress.

>>11940996
Start small! Draw a simple smiley face. Draw another smiley face! But this time make it slightly more realistic. And keep going until you've drawn the photo realistic face that you wanted. Or something. I don't know.

>>11940791
>Please help me stop playing with snes games, they don't make me draw
Play mario paint. Even if you don't draw anything, you can upload a nice song instead.

>>11940787
Here, if you want you can color this one, drew it not long ago, I should draw more, stopped for a long while and I got rusty...

I like Kate a a lot

>>11941056
>Sexualizing overlords
that's fucked up dude

I added charge attacks today
Also tested it on Wine in Linux, it runs the same as on Windows (for me anyways).

>>11941120
A meido action game? I'll play that!

>>11941134
Sorry to disappoint you anon, it's not the /jp/ meido but an oc donut steel.

>>11941055
Ok

Any other???

>>11941250
would rather watch you color something so I could learn to color my own stuff that quick.

>>11941255
I-I don't know how to stream, but it was fast because the lineart was well made.

I can still take some edit/color requests from the next couple of hours everyone.

Another sketch. I'm starting to feel more comfortable with drawing hair.
She looks a little mentally handicapped, though.

>>11941280
she looks cute, like the girl from recover the restarts

>>11941250
Holy smokes, that so damn awesome, totally love it! let me see if I have something else for ya...

>>11941250
Ok, here, try this one, a bit lewd, hope you don't mind~
I love bloomers.... and puffy vulvas too!

>>11941138
Any meido is fine as long as she is a meido, so no worries there, Anon-kun.

Here, I drew Marisa for you guys.

>>11941361
Something here is off...
Ah of course, she is missing her "M".

>>11941361
Why does she have a random leaf on her hat?
Seems kinda weird, even for her.

>>11941361
I really like this, good job.

>>11941332
Good to know! There's going to be 2 meidos you can play as and other meido NPCs

>>11941361
I like this style

>>11941361
Seems somehow cuter than normal.

>>11941134
There already is a game like that.

Janitor, meido, same thing.

>>11941479
Fuck off.

>>11941479
>Janitor
>Maid
>Same thing
But they're not, anon.

>>11941120
That's some sweet action.

>>11941056
You are not worthy enough to draw her. Stop it.

>>11941548
/jp/ uses both synonymously.

>>11941056
My god, dat ass.

>>11942271
he draws a nice vulva though.

>>11942679
No he doesn't.

And she said she doesn't like it.

Does anyone else here feel like if they give themselves too many drawings to work on at once, that they overwhelm themselves because they can't think of which one to make progress on?

>>11942770
I feel that everything is overwhelming me. Be it the number of WIPs or lack of thereof.

>>11942770
I feel a little overwhelmed with the number of projects I've got up and I don't know how to prioritize and motivate myself. I don't draw, it's just other creative ventures, but I imagine it's a similar thing.

it really sucks.

>>11941056
That vulva looks like a scrotum. It's too saggy.

>>11941056

Why so artists these days have to make everything so shiny, it's like the girls are made from plastic and rubber

>>11941056
Is that big breasted Kate to the left? How could you? Why would you?

>>11942851
>>11942867
It's like I am really on /ic/.

>>11942919

>>11942956
Where are her eyebrows?

>>11942989
Fish don't have eyebrows.

>>11942998
W-what about hair...you mean those aren't hair?! too scary
>>11942938
1. a picture about someone butthurt and people angry around him
2. a picture about someone that farted in a small, closed room without windows
which one it is?

>>11943036
Hundreds of tiny soft scales.

Challenge yourself, /jp/

Draw something that isn't a person or landscape/background. Those lolis would be much more cute riding bikes or something!

>>11943202
drawing one decent looking character is hard enough

>>11943223

Just draw fro ma reference, not every picture has to be done absolutely from scratch.

>>11943486
its hard even with references. I can draw decent characters, but I've always been slow and lately, not focusing as well as I was a couple months back.

Added a magic attack

>>11941676
Thanks

would you turn down a 2D for having an artificial limb?

>>11943735
Not before KS, but the trauma of that has left me uncertain.

>>11943649
>>11941391
>>11941120

is this going to be a 2-d fighter or a side scroller game?

will the two different characters be different as in different sprites, or just a recolor?

Also, it looks awesome.

>>11943838
Thanks!
It's going to be a brawler with some side scrolling, you go through different rooms in a mansion.
Here's the mockup I did recently, they're different characters, the other maid has her own set of moves.
Also I'm changing the her hair color.

>>11943862
....co-op?

>>11943862
Holy shit that looks pretty good.

>>11943862
Who's the best girl out of the two.

>>11943890
Whichever one you like, I can't decide

>>11943888
Single player, I can't into netcode and have no one to playtest locally with

>>11943889
Thanks anon

Here's the old portrait sketches I did

>>11943909
one player keyboard, other player controller, wasd for p1, ijkl for p2 if keyboard only.
button mapping can fix the rest!
or you'd just need to steal the mbcaster source code and then adapt it some...

>>11943890
knife girl high damage, longer combos, but very lacking in range.
broom girl lots of range, more pushback on hits, and more delayed attacks and longer recover time between attacks.
balance isn't rocket science.

>>11943924
Designing and balancing a co-op game sounds tough, especially if I'm testing by myself most of the time
For this game I'll be sticking to single player

i can't draw, but i can sorta music. i'd like to learn more mmd though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCBifSez0GY

>>11943909

>>11944000
Damn, those drums sound horrible!

Pretty cool tone, though. The ending is pretty lame, but that's about it, really.

>Anything OC is welcomed;
>including programming.
What? Since when?

>>11944004
My first fan art!
Thanks a lot anon, it's really cute

>>11944059
Since always, art is just more popular

>>11944004
>>11944112
Meidos!
Meidos everywhere!
Dis guna b gud~

>>11944123
Can't wait.

>>11944112
You best post a link here when it's done, anon. Because I will play the fuck out of a meido brawler made by a /jp/sie, especially since what you have so far looks great.

>>11944152
I will anon, but that's going to be a while so I'll be posting a demo before it's done

Does someone have a link to that old Touhou game name generator? Or tell me the logic behind making a name that would fit a Touhou game? I think this question is releveant to this thread. I'm sorry if it's not.

>>11944301
Pretty sure it was just "noun of adjective noun" with sufficiently flowery terms.

>>11943649
Now there's some collisions
And they move

Trying to make a character; any suggestions?

>>11944395
are you going to add more than 1 frame to the attack animation

>>11944563
that's yuyuko

>>11944566
>that's yuyuko
It's my original character.

>>11944563
She looks like a kemono

>>11944760
Color scheme would make her look different- any ideas?

>>11944566
(Do not steal)

practice makes perfect they said.

>>11944865
By the nine divines.

>>11944566
Yeah, there's no animations right now, just getting the basic stuff working

How do I draw finalized lines? Please help.

>>11944865

It depends how you practice. You'll have to get a rasp for anatomy first of all, I found it best to use references and work with them first, then later modify them a bit, then a bit more, and of course anatomy study itself helps alot.

>>11944865
Practice with forms and drawing from photos/life, it'll help.
>>11945051
Try to make long single strokes instead of short repeated ones.

I want to draw a 2hu again. Suggestions?

>>11945241
Draw a 2hu

>>11945241
koakuma filing her nails

>>11945241
I'd suggest you draw a 2hu.

>>11945241
Can you draw a 2hu? Thanks in advance!

>>11945245
>>11945251
>>11945252
>>11945256

Thanks. You guys enlightened me.

If I want to draw something, I should just draw it instead of asking trivial questions.

Also this is what I get from drawing after drinking too much coffee.

>>11945421
Hands could be larger, but it looks pretty good.

How do I straight lines?

>>11945443
Press shift to focus

>>11944112
Lets support Anon-kun's Meido game with Meido fanart!

Sorry this is just a raw sketch, I'm kinda in a rush right now~

>>11945443
If you're using SAI, S-1 through S-7 will help you draw straight lines or really long curves.

>>11945507
That is, for the stabilizer setting.

>>11945443
Draw with your whole arm and shoulder and forget that you have fingers.

I couldn't draw smooth lines most of my life. Then last year I filled the canvas in sai (of course without that stabilizer tool) like crazy with circles and lines for like a week or two, and after that it went much better than before.

Did a Kagerou a couple days ago. I need to try and art more.

>>11941320

You need to work o nthe face symmetry, right half doesn't line up wit hthe left at all.

Kageru is a bat!

>>11945522
Nono, Kageru is dog Anon!

>>11945562

I can actually make out a nose and lips, nice. Not bad

I've got a friend. He says "I need to practice more." or "I need to put more time into drawing, been so busy nowadays." and only draws the same original girl with the same expression in the same postures every time, showing it proudly around for compliments, followed by the excuses I mentioned earlier. Don't be that guy, guys. Thanks.

>>11945581

Well

Does it look better than your stuff?

>>11945581
What's his tumblr?

>>11945581
okay, I'll do my best

Here's a quick sketch guys, spent only like 20 mins on it. I need to practice more. I need to put more time into drawing, been so busy nowadays.

Inspired by that adorable kyackers pic a few threads back.
This silly thing was so much fun to do.

>>11945581
I don't like talking about drawing with people around me. Talking about that with people who don't share at least a somewhat similiar hobby is always so wierd.

>>11944828
Is this a meme?

>>11945777
That thing took 20 minutes?

>>11945100
>>11945153

Any immediate recommended changes for anatomy? I have some plans to adjust the legs and arms a bit. Legs aren't as important because a dress will cover them though. I'll also add a hat.

>>11946070
Anatomy isn't your main concern. People seem to think that in order to draw people you must first know anatomy like it's the most important thing but it actually isn't. In fact, proper anatomy isn't used most of the time especially in stylized drawings.

If you want real advice start with gesture and perspective.

>>11945241
Perhaps try drawing marisa in a pose like pic related

I'll suck your cock, dude

>>11945507
What if I'm using Photoshop?

>>11946161
Then switch to SAI, dingus.

>>11946193
But I normally draw in 1200dpi, and it seems that SAI can't handle that. Plus, I'm already familiar with Photoshop's tools and interface and I don't like change.

>>11946136
I'll let you suck my cock without drawing that picture.

>>11945494
Thanks anon!

Okay /jp/ I'm drawing Jill from drill dozer in Ooyari Ashito's style.

If you see anything wrong with it so far please raise your hand.

Okay /jp/ I'm drawing Jill from drill dozer in Ooyari Ashito's style.

If you see anything wrong with it so far please raise your hand or shout at me. Don't hold back.

>>11946461
*raises hand and shouts at you*

>>11946300
No problemo~
I'll take my time on the next one, so I'll try to make her look better~

By the way, do they have names?

>>11946461
You should draw her right hand, I'm sure she'd appreciate it

>>11946136
No colors, because I'm being a lazy person.

>I'll suck your cock, dude
That's gay.

>>11946646
>>11945421
Your faces are really cute.

>>11946461
holy shit that ear

>>11946161
Take the hard way, you'll thank yourself later on

>>11946096

>not needing anatomy

Don't listen to this guy if you want to improve. You need some basic knowledge on how joints, proportions and muscle groups work.

>b-b-b-but it's stylized!

It's still supposed to be a human and even stylized humans work by the same rules as normal ones. He isn't going to draw something out there like Powerpuff girls or something.

>>11946161
there should be a stabilizer in your brush settings, even GIMP can do this, so I have no doubt a similar feature is in photoshop.

>>11943202

I drew this because I love Homeworld and can't wait for the new game. Although I always draw ships but I was inspired to try and give this one a lot of detail. The filename certainly explains the color scheme.

>>11942956
I wish I could draw nice, simple, cute faces like that. Good job.

>>11941056
Good butt and nice shoulder areas too. I have trouble with linking the deltoids to the chest especially around the back like that.

>>11947248

I tried to give it more contrast because it was too flat. I still forget about checking values from time to time, how embarrassing.

>>11947074
Did I say he didn't need anatomy and should completely ignore it? No I didn't, so don't overinterpret my words, dicknose. He just shouldn't start with thinking about how to correct anatomy when his drawing lacks in more basic concepts such as gesture and perspective. Since you ignored that part of my post you probably have no idea what they are.

As I've seen it usually people who've been drawing anime poorly their whole life who start wanting to improve always turn to anatomy first because they believe anatomical details would improve their static, lifeless drawings. Then they usually end up with even more static and lumpy chickenscratch because they have no idea how shit works. On another note there aren't any legitimate figure drawing books out there that start with anatomy first. If you actually cracked one open you'll see that they usually start with gesture and building forms in 3d space and how they interact with each other which also takes perspective into account. Only after you're comfortable with doing that could you start studying anatomy in confidence as the next step to improve your figure drawing.

Can't believe some idiot actually misinterpreted my post to mean to ignore anatomy completely, wow. Just impressively ignorant.

>>11947074
Constructing things is extremely hard if you can't conceptualize 3D space in your head, and practicing basic forms like cubes and spheres in perspective is the best way to really get this concept in your head (aside from doing still lives).

If you can't imagine a joint in 3D space, it's pointless drawing them since you're just copying down lines.

>>11945782
That's adorable, anon!

Anyone else here feel like they draw better when taking stimulants? Not just focusing better, but actually drawing better.

>>11947473
Yep
That shouldn't really be a surprise though.

>>11947473
I imagine drawing on ambien would be great. you'd probably end up with scribble, but it'd be a helluva time in the process. grab a big sheet to work with, chuck on boards of canada and I'm sure you could create new worlds as you sketch.

can anyone confirm this before I go tell my doctor that I'm having trouble sleeping?

>>11947476
Well, it actually sometimes it feels like energy drinks just make me too anxious, especially if I still can't draw something to match my standards or figure out how to do something. The anxiety leads me to give up real quickly and want to do something else.

>>11945782
kyackers is cute and so is your sketch!

>>11946161
There's Lazy Nezumi.
>>11947295
I like this, it looks nice and clean. The black detail at the end of the wing doesn't seem to match the other side well though.

http://bryanlewissaunders.org/drugs/
this is what taking drugs does to your art

Anyone know of any guides for drawing different types of eyes? Or can give advice for how to draw them? I almost always have trouble telling if they are looking at me or not in my sketches, even when I move the iris around to what I think is the right place depending on the angle of the face.

>>11946161
Photoshop is not bad, but is not the best.

>>11947472
check your Pixiv please!

>>11947571
What the actual fuck.

>>11947559

Thanks. I plan to do more.

>>11947472
>>11947483
Thanks!

Implementing a text box.
Will add portraits with it next.

I drew a dorky swordsman.

>>11947822
Really liking this, anon.

>>11946646
Thanks dude, I'll spam it in the anki threads

>>11946551
>By the way, do they have names?
forgot to reply, no I haven't named them yet, it might take a while for that

>>11948108
thanks anon

I give up, drawing is too much work. You just can't take it easy. Guess it's back to making requests for me.

>>11947600
>19

>>11949360
Noooo don't give up

>>11941056
I like your drawing a lot.
Hope I'll get to your level one day.

>>11949403

Whats wrong with 72DPI if you're doing purely digital work?

>>11949450
If you're drawing in anything less than 1200dpi, then you're not doing it right.

>>11949458

DPI plays little role in digital only works.

>>11949450
The ppi count doesn't matter when you do digital only. Pixelsize is physicaly determined by your screen and the size of the image by the amount of pixels.
ppi are for calculating the dpi when you print.
That's why you could also use a giant image with low ppi for printing a small image with high dpi.
>>11949458
You're either a really bad troll or don't know anything about ppi and dpi.

>>11949463
In Photoshop, you can enlarge the image dimensions by increasing the ppi value.

I guess this is one of the main things that causes clueless people to:
1) ...confuse dpi (dots per inch) with ppi (pixels per inch).
2) ...think that ppi itself determines the actual size of the digital image. That is not true, but the automatic resampling is normally checked on in Photoshop which adjusts the image dimensions proportionally.

>>11949463
>>11949480
anons help, I actually want to print some of my finished illustrations and I've been scaling it to 300dpi. Am I fucked? this works with photographs.

>>11949485

you should work as the same size you intend to print.

>>11949416
You can't tell me what to do.

>>11949523
she has no eyes - this is lilly, isn't it?

>>11949485
300dpi can be sufficient, depending on what you intend to use it for.

>>11949485
You should always have a unedited base picture and make adjusted files based on what the printing staff wants for best results. They should be able to help you better since they should know what they can print and what not and what workflow they use.

Based on their target audience however, they may suck ass.

>>11949523
Mio a best.

>>11947332

I'll start taking more time practicing perspective by drawing basic shapes. Maybe when I'm more comfortable with that I'll start trying to draw an arm or a hand from different angles or buildings if that proves to be a little too difficult. Also thanks to everyone for the advice.

Great arts, guys!

Do you take requests as well?

We over /g/ are developing a Skype replacement called Tox and I thought about getting a cute loli mascot for us.

The ideas of Tox are:

- Security
- Distributed/decentralized
- Beautiful

Perhaps the cute girl could bear a shield or a lock in he vagina?

I don't know, I'm no artist.

But of one thing I'm sure, every project should have a cute mascot.

Thank you and keep up the good work. I wish I could draw even close to this.

>>11949827
Sounds good. Do you have an email or something we can contact you with?

is tox like a freedoms version of skype?
chibi loli tox-tan sans the burden of clothes.

>>11949853
>>11949859
Don't waste your time, they wasted more time shitposting and designing than making the real program

>>11949853

stal@tox.im

Here's our website: http://tox.im/

And Github repository: https://github.com/irungentoo/ProjectTox-Core

Don't listen to >>11949864 we have already implemented text messaging, Audio/Video is done in the Core, coming to the Clients soon and groupchats are already done as well.

>>11949859

Yes, it's a free as in freedom (GPLv3+) Skype replacement plus more features than Skype itself.

>>11949866
>>11949872
GNU/Vaporware pls go

>>11949864
i give it 3 months max before the neckbeards get tired of it and leave it to die.

nobody else would want to use it anyway, since they have skype.

>>11949874
Skype messes up my audio system. I'd be interested in that...

>>11949874
It died 3 months ago anon.
They ended up having drama about some of the devs and other stuff related to the site, but no actual progress.
Only a fool would put hope in a /g/ project

>>11949873

We have many working clients for different platforms already: http://wiki.tox.im/Client

Give me one minute and I will post a screenshot current screenshot of the Multiplatform Client (Windows, Linux, OS X).

>>11949874

We have been going for 257 days straight, committing code every single day ( https://github.com/irungentoo )

Text messaging, groupchats, file transferring, Audio/Video is already implemented in the Core and all that, except A/V, is already available in the clients as well.

We are participating of Google Summer of Code, whilst projects such as Pidgin and NetBSD were denied. Dozens of students have contacted us showing interest.

This isn't, surprisingly, vaporware.

>>11949877
wouldn't you need the other person/people to also use that? that's already a big hurdle.

i somehow doubt it'll be able to interface with skype and its accounts/connections, especially since skype would lose money if it allowed a free program to bypass its pay per use services.

The interface is easy to use and one of the main goals of Tox.

Here's one of the many clients. What you see is a basic groupchat.

On 1-on-1 conversations you can already transfer files, that will soon come to groupchats as well.

And Audio/Video was already implemented in the Core and should be coming in a couple weeks to the Clients. The CLI client for UNIX-like systems will have Audio in the next few days, if you want a sneak peak.

>>11949437
Please don't praise the wrong people.

Is there a list of /jp/ drawfags? There is this one artist I couldn't find and he's not even on the /a/ drawthreads. It's the person who names his pics "bitch" or something along the lines...

>>11949893
That's Sleepy/bitch-tan.

http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=816068

>>11949893
man, i read too much into that tox shit and now I don't know if this post is serious.

Trying to convey depth. I constantly have the conflict of needing a city's services whilst wanting to be as far away from the population as possible. Hopefully a compromise like this is possible one day. I suppose it already does but I'd like Internet that isn't trash.

>>11949898
Thank you! I've been looking for this for ever! I just messaged him, do you think he accepts requests?

>>11949899
What do you mean? I know there is s /jp/ OC wiki or something but no one ever updates that.

>>11949958
Maybe someone should create a pastebin with drawfag contacts, although it may lead to jaypee drama

>>11949970
>jaypee drama
There has not been any instances of that since magister's shitstorm. I doubt anything of that sort will arise from this.

>>11949955
It lacks contrast right now, it'd help seperate the foreground/midground/background.
It has a very relaxing feel, the clouds are pretty cute looking (if clouds can be considered cute?).

>>11940835
oh fuck ogre battle

>>11950004

I have a bad habit of lacking contrast and trend towards overexposure. Hopefully more B&W paintings will help.

>>11950004
not him, but the lack of contrast gives it that very relaxing feel (though not exclusively - it contributes to it).

>>11947822
will you have cornelia as a boss? she was my favorite ;_;

>>11950030
It takes away the depth, which is what anon was aiming for. If the contrast between close and far is rased it will increase the depth.

>>11950034
Dude already said it's OC and not jp inspired

>>11947822
I added horizontal text wrapping, still have to split it up when it's more than 3 lines.

I'll try to only post when I make more significant changes, I don't want to spam these threads since they're pretty slow

>>11950034
Sorry anon, they're oc maids

>>11949980
Actually a couple threads ago we had a discrete quantity of faggotry and shit, so maybe its not really the case of a compile with drawfags contacts. they're all on pixiv anyway, apart the lovely cute ladies guy, so its not that hard to find them if you really want to contact
>>11950020
Anon's ALG goes down by two points!

>>11950092
But the artists I'm interested in are so damn shy and don't post their ID's which I find stupidly annoying but also adorably cute.

>>11950090
>Tox

>>11950092
>lovely cute ladies guy
Bitch-tan?

>>11950109
I just find it stupidly annoying.

I'll stop posting half ass work now. I'll be sure to only post what I finish.

>>11949749
Remember that if you can still count the number of times you've studied you haven't drawn enough so don't be disappointed if you don't see improvement after x number of days/weeks.

>>11950261
>half ass work
Nice, that's a full ass work!

>>11950340

A friend told me that if I do a little everyday in 4 years I won't regret it.

>>11950463

but if you do a lot in 18 months you won't regret it.

>>11950467
except he can burn out and put it away for months.

when you can't draw well yet, it's easy to get discouraged and burn out on drawing if you try to force it.

>>11950471
>burnout

A term coined by losers for losers. Don't give up, burnout isn't real. It's only an excuse.

>>11950481
listen to him, and at the end you'll be so sick of drawing you'll never want to do it again.

it's like liking something, and then finding a job that requires you to do it. at first you'll think "awesome, i get to do what i love and make money!", but later you'll be so sick of it you won't even want to do it for pleasure, since doing it for business will kill your will to do it at all.

>>11950488
That makes sense, no wonder professional artists always eventually hate what they do (not).

You either love it or you don't. Usually the reason that gets most people into drawing is the high off the easy praise and attention they get from their shitty anime drawings. Others get into drawing not for the fame and fortune like the former but because they genuinely enjoy it. So if you're the type looking for quick n easy praise and attention you won't get any while studying and doing hard work with no "attention reward" for a long time will burn you out.

So there's a solution if you're the former, either slog your way through the improvement phase and don't give up no matter how much your mind thinks the work to reward ratio is disproportionate compared to what you got before or stop drawing and look for another avenue to satisfy your neediness.

>>11950516
i did slog through it. it took me years to get to something that's more less passable, but i had a goal.

i needed 2d porn, and back then internet had nothing.

>>11950481
Burnout isn't real the same way that losers aren't real. It's just not true.

>>11950516
Can't the needy types just make a shitty comic and get legions of fans to lick their balls?

>>11950578
Maybe they aren't funny and can't make a catchy comic.

>>11950591
very little people (1) are good at making interesting webcomics.

I need help

What should I do to make lines like this? I don't think SAI is the best choice for linework

I tried photoshop some times but I couldn't do anything good, any hints?

>>11950716
Clipping group and a steady hand are your friends.

>>11950716
Do long, confident nice strokes by moving your entire arm instead of wrists

Sai is great for linework, so is PS, don't blame the tools

>>11950805
>moving your entire arm
I never understood how to do this. I always have to put it in an awkward as hell position, my lines come out worse, and I look like a retard doing it.

>>11950716
sai is fine for linework. stop blaming the tools for your shitty ability. practice and your lines will be better. fuck off

>>11950820
The point is to avoid moving your wrist at all rather than to wave your arm about like a tard.

>>11950820
Lock your wrist, start making big lines
It's really hard at first if you never did, but you have to get used to it, it's another skill you need for drawing

draft of Satori and Koishi in alternative clothing

>>11950952
looks nice!
are you the one who did the alice drawing last time?

>>11947571
Some of them basically look like my childhood on prescribed antipsychotics

Thanks big pharma!

>>11950481
Burnout depends almost entirely on the person. Some are prone to it and need to take measured steps. Others can go like the energizer bunny.

Ultimately, work needs to be done at a steady pace, I agree. But don't overdo it to thepoint where you dread having to work every single day just to meet irrational self-imposed deadlines or whatever

>>11946461
Progress.

Please don't hold back.

>>11951342

It might be easier on the eyes if you color the lineart. Especially subtle areas like the cheek lines and the hair lines.

>>11951349
That's a good idea. I should probably start trying to color this like him now.

>>11951342

>>11950261

I was too lazy to actually do lineart but I guess in a way it allows me to try other methods.

>>11951507
elemix-chan is giving me a massive boner - what a cute ass! thanks for sharing.

>>11951514

I had a few other images in a similar theme but posting them means I can't sage so I don't like to do it.

>>11951528
>but posting them means I can't sage
Bro what

>>11951550

I have to link NSFW stuff through the email field because 4chan hate viral marketers.

>>11951450
I want to make it look more like this without straying too far from Ashito's style..

>>11951450
Thank you, this is really helpful. I need to stick with Ashito's long torsos, skinny arms thing though and I'm starting to hate that I have to.. I'll put more construction into this though.

>>11951528
As long as you're contributing it's fine in my opinion. Unimportant post like this warant a sage, not thread contributions.

Alternatively, post when the thread is on frontpage, that way you don't do much harm.

>>11951550
A sage is a person of great wisdom. We all strive to become one, one day.

https://soundcloud.com/neurodive/coffee-3am

>>11951930
you charge 2 EUR for a single track that's available on soundcloud for free? man, are you even a /jp/sie?

>>11949360

It's a nice start, and you got the face symmetry down. You'll have to work on cleaner lines now.

Here's something I haven't touched in ages, still unfinished

>>11951973
I like the Leiji Matsumoto style

could one of you translate this neat bit of info about depth of field from one of my favorite artists ?

>>11952245

I don't know much but it seems form the images alone he is trying to explain depth and how it can distort the size an object is hence the example of her head being smaller as it's furthest. It also explains how these objects would overlap and you shouldn't have the body pull off to the right if they're just bending over, they're bending forward into the vanishing point.

email is NSFW and pretty gay

>>11950829
>>11950831
Thanks, I see how it works now. I can draw straight lines real easily. Hopefully I find a use for it in a program other than SAI since I won't have a stabilizer in them.

>>11950090
It's mostly done for now.
I can make it show up when you interact with objects.
I need to add things like yes/no options later on though.

>>11947600
>brush
>for final lines

PEN TOOL MOTHER FUCKER!
LEARN IT
IT WILL SAVE YOUR BACON.
MAKE LIFE EASIER
AND LOOK MUCH BETTER, WITH MORE PERFECT CURVES AND LINES.

>>11953203
But pen tool is boring, doesn't teach you better pen control, and doesn't look as good as even decent manual linework.

>>11953203
>PERFECT CURVES AND LINES.
That's a big problem, it looks too perfect.You lose the imperfections that give it life.
You just can't get the same feeling as linework drawn by hand.

>>11953216
It's not even an issue of perfection. It simply will look way too mechanical and artificial. No variation in lineweight is especially bad. There are so many cases where you'll need to create lines which need to have a lower line weight at the end of the stroke.

>>11951592
Disregard this, I suck cocks.

>>11953231
>mechanical and artificial.
Yeah that's more of what I mean, didn't know how to word it

>>11953231
If you use the pen tool simply as a replacement for the pencil tool, you are using it very wrong.

The pen tool should be used to define the outline for the lines.
Each actual line is represented as a filled-in polygon, with the curves from the line tool to give the line the desired shape, and with that there is more room for customization than any bloated brush addon.

If you vectorize a simple uncolored drawing in illustrator and then zoom in on one of the lines, that's what I'm talking about.

Seriously though, the pen tool is godly, and you really ought to use it correctly and to it's full potential.

Hey /jp/

I have lots of free time on my hands at work so i thought i might learn to draw. Are there and /jp/-approved books that teach how to draw cute girls?

>>11953302
>>>/ic/

>>11953303
He wants to draw cute girls. They'll just tell him stupid shit about anatomy.

>>11953302
Loomis will teach you to draw cute girls

>>11953305
He can post around in the stylization thread then.

>>11953305
you need anatomy to draw cute girls

>>11953303
>tfw I bought that shit book at the end and it made me worse than before and it took me forever to get decent at drawing again by copying actual manga artists

Fuck katy coope.
I was drawing dead bugs with precision, that garbage set me back like a whole year.

>>11952245
I never contribute to these threads because I'm still not that great of a programmer and I've never known where to start with drawing except the Loomis advice I see everywhere (but haven't really sat down and practiced it myself yet)... but if nobody helps you out I'll take a while off tomorrow and actually write out that chicken scratch into something legible and a translation. Too bad I checked this thread right before bedtime and I need to rise early only tomorrow out of all these days of doing nothing.

>>11953303

Thanks. Those girls aren't very cute but it's still much better than anything i could do!

>>11953189
That's pretty hilarious dood.

>>11953308
Holy shit dude my sides

>>11951973
that's awesome, /m/ would love it

>>11953277
Care to give an example?

I don't know..

more piano

https://soundcloud.com/elemile/lethe

>>11941250
Nice render.

>>11941280
Hair looks good.

>>11941056
Very good.

>>11954057
if you don't mind sharing your secrets - what gear do you use?

>>11954057
Is Erômenos as gay as I think it is? I don't want to click on it in case it's actually 2 minutes and 56 seconds of Youki fingering Rinnosuke.

>>11954057
Boring...

>>11954694
http://www.sex.com/picture/2747843-the-post-appeared-first-on-touhou-project-hentai/

>>11950716
The only viable answer >>11950822
Getting a new tablet or switching to a different program won't grant you drawing skills. How do I draw hands? How can I color better? By having the patience to practice.

>>11949437
It is really questionable that you will become any good if you only use artists as reference who are only beginners themselves and make tremendous anatomical errors all the time.

Look up some artists who have drawn for a few years, and you will develop an eye to distinguish good art from bad art.

>>11953277
>>11953974
I think he's talking about using it like this, but I'm not sure?

>>11954505
KORG Microkey with M1 Le

>>11954523
>Erômenos
so classic
much culture

>>11954057
sounds like nothing

http://blog-imgs-65-origin.fc2.com/l/i/x/lixaxil/alice-e2.png

Alice about to lick the d

(OCs, not 2hu)

>>11953392
>>11953401
thanks dudes

I did NPC basics today

>>11956693
how cancerous

>>11956693
I think you are aware that memes can make your game more popular among western teenagers, but is that really what you want?

Before this, the game looked acceptable to me. Now it is just annoying.
If you integrate something like this permanently, I will not even think about trying it out.

>>11956747
>>11956860
Chill dudettes, he was probably just being ironic.

>>11956860
Me too. I don't want stupid memes in games anymore.

>>11951973
I think it's worth finishing

>>11952406
Is there anywhere you store your landscapes online?

>>11951507
I much prefer that to plain black line art (unless it is done manually and expressively, like Sadamoto's).

>>11951507
I much prefer that to plain black line art (unless it is done traditionally and expressively, like Sadamoto's).

>>11941120
Here, have an incomplete rush job. I'm very interested to see your progress on this game. Best of luck. In the meantime I'm gonna redo this so it's more presentable.

>>11956860
>>11956877
lol, you behave like customers. he's just having fun and has no obligation with any of you.

>>11957197
Feedback is an important part of developing any game. The only thing you're capable of is asspatting because you're afraid he might quit on his project. We don't give a shit and we tell it how it is so get off your high horse, fag.

>>11954057
Anyway you still haven't drawn a 2hu
what a mean artists.

>>11957314
I used to really like Reimu and the Scarlet sisters, but I still can't think of anything interesting I could do about them. There's a lot of unearthly beautiful and sophisticated Touhou art around and I don't want to just half-ass anything: it has to be special, in some way. I once wanted to do something homaging the danmaku visual concept, but I'm nowhere near technically to do it any justice; same happens with Miku, for example: I thought about drawing her as Hoffman's Olympia, Mucha style, but I still don't think I can pull it on. If someone else ever does it, it'd be nice.

>>11957365
>it has to be special
I think I'm starting to understand now...
no dude, not everything have to be special. when is the last time you drawn somethig just for a quick chuckle? the stiffness of your lines and figures is a product of your personality, I guess.

>>11950952
It's coming up pretty good.

>>11957365
You could always draw cute 2hus taking it easy. ZUN would die of shame and turn in his grave if he knew how complicated you're making this.

>>11956860
>>11957230
it's barely alpha footage and you're crying that the dev is having too much fun with a demonstrative script.

never change /jp/.

>>11952864

You can make nice lines with the GIMP calligraphy tool.

>>11957413
"The dev is doing something inane that could potentially damage the final result by keeping it in if we don't tell him that it's a bad idea"
"Let's not tell him, he'll figure it out all by himself"
Never change, anon.

>>11957413
Most devs leave things that they did for fun during development as easter eggs.

>>11957385
>>11957400
Some people are just passionate about what they do.

>>11957485
Do you really think that this was his final version of it and not "tech demo v0.001"?
Or am I giving the developer too much credit?

Tell him he forgot the background too!

>>11957489
I don't see much of a problem with easter eggs, especially in doujin/indie game development. I don't expect much from them, maybe a bit of fun, a laugh, a boner at most.

I suppose it comes down to whether or not you find these references funny. I find them silly for sure, but I appreciate silliness in an otherwise pretty damn boring life.

Maybe your life is more exciting or something or you don't dig that style of humour, I dunno.

>>11957485
Do you really think that this was his final version of it and not "tech demo v0.001"?
Or am I giving the developer too much credit?

Tell him he forgot the background too!

>>11957489
I don't see much of a problem with easter eggs, especially in doujin/indie game development. I don't expect much from them, maybe a bit of fun, a laugh, a boner at most.

I suppose it comes down to whether or not you find these references funny. I find them silly for sure, but I appreciate silliness in an otherwise pretty damn boring life.

Maybe your life is more exciting or something or you don't dig that style of humour, I dunno.
I guess it doesn't matter all too much at that point.

>>11957541
>this is beta, nothing can ever be wrong with a beta
>especially the stark contrast between content that exists and content that doesn't

>>11957584
*farts in ur face*

I drew Reimu for you guys.

What do you think?

>>11957584
>all devs are stupid.

just take it easy dude!

>>11956905

I store safe art here:
afridge.tumblr.com/

Otherwise no. I don't even like that site all that much. The only other place is dropbox but I only send those links to people I know.

>>11957606
oh you're the dude doing the pixel art as well.

She's cute bro:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/4d4457d836ddbd3362f4e319d10b4af2/tumblr_mzmmdomv3S1siqnweo7_1280.png

>>11957591
The lack of expression is killing me.

>>11957705
I-I'm sorry. Are you alright?

>>11957624

I posted that one here a while back.

>>11957511
Passionate is kinda the reverse of him, I think, as doing something just for the sake of it

>>11957624
Wow, that spacesuit girl is fucking adorable.

>>11957736
GJ, still enjoy the landscapes more. Its just refreshing in a way.

>>11956747
>>11956860
Sorry anons
It's actually not going to be in the game at all, I was using posts from a thread to test out the dialog

>>11957911

I always worry because of how empty they are. It must be a reflection on my mind in a way. I will try to make them better.

>>11957914
It strikes me as sad that they didn't even notice something as obvious as this.

>>11957966
The emptiness is sort of appealing. I think a lot of artists try way too at busying up the backgrounds. Its nice for those loaded interior type images but simplicity and soft colors (like this >>11952406 ) just feels good with natural scenery.

That said, I wouldn't mind seeing sharper lines.

Whenever I try to watch artists streaming their work on niconico, half of them only draws those ship-creatures and the other half is terrible at drawing.

This is not a good way to learn from others.

How do I get myself to practice more? Whenever I'm drawing something just for the sake of practice, and not working on a project, I lose focus much faster. I started exercising and doing cardio every day just so I could deal with the stress better, so that's helping a little indirectly. Anyone else notice what helps them focus better on drawing?

NPC's will be checkpoints to save and heal. There's no items so if you die you restart from the last save point.

Just to confirm, I won't be putting any memes or such in the game, I'd only do that for fun during development, sorry for derailing the thread

>>11957112
It's great, thanks a lot anon!

>>11957729
Maybe he thought it was really funny.

>>11958292
I haven't entirely figured out what to do myself but here are a few things that help me at least sometimes.

Setting goals that are achievable for you but keep you on your toes (draw x amount of something for y timeframe).

Just imagine that it's for something also helps sometimes. Like, that scenery will be in a VN althrough you know it never will.

Another thing is to practice what bothers you while doing something. Say you want to draw cute girl drinking tea and you notice you have no clue how to draw sitting girls. Pause your initial plan and study some sitting girls. That practice becomes easier since it's for something in reach instead of that vague "I want to become a better artist" goal.

And something I've noticed is that when I start the day lazy I accomplish nothing while when I do some tasks early that productivity carries over to other stuff as well.

I hope something of this is of help to someone.

>>11957755
So it's more 'passionate' to make an effortless doodle to have a laugh than of giving your all over something you treat as precious? I don't get it.

>>11957755
So it's more 'passionate' to make an effortless doodle to have a laugh than giving your all over something you treat as precious? I don't get it.

>>11953974
>>11954766

more like the hard black outline that varies considerably in shape and thickness in this picture.

one pen tooled line for the outside of the thick black line, one for the inside, and then the edges meet up so it makes the solid object.

>>11958298

Do you have any backgrounds or maps done? or are ya still working on sprites?

Just want to take a look~

>>11958602
>Do you have any backgrounds or maps done? or are ya still working on sprites?
Neither actually, all the graphics right now are placeholders,
I'll post a sketch of the map once I finish it if you'd like.

>>11958611
Anything is fine, just wanted to take a look.

>>11958614
I'll be sure to post when I have something then

>>11953373
thank you sir.

That feeling when Inoue Kiyoshirou has no info out about his process, not even sketches.

I swear he is such a secretive artist. I just want to know more about his artwork. ;_;

>>11958068

I'm not sure what is meant by sharper lines.

>>11958697
What brush do you use anon?
I like the texture it creates on those rocks

>>11958697
I guess i'm just spoiled by newer digital media. Some of the strokes in that image are really broad and messy which works for the backgrounds but in the foreground its a little jarring. Does have a nice traditional paintbrush sort of look though.

Amusingly I was thinking about suggesting a visible celestial body in a daytime sky.

>>11958710

I use a combination of subtle texture brushes, the normal circle brush, and smudging them with a textured brush so it feels like I am somewhat working with actual paint.

There's a series of brushes you can get called something like "Blur's brush pack". I mostly use the oil brushes.

>>11958715
I'll try to be more careful to foreground detail in future.

>>11958732
I wish he would bully me.

>>11958732
His hands look like he's missing a couple fingers.

>>11958298
>I won't be putting any memes or such in the game
Wow d00d, that is HELLA un-epic.

>>11958292
Get yourself a mentor.

>>11958329
I'm not the guy you responded to but your post gave me a little more motivation and some of those advices seem to work for me. Thanks.

>>11958921
I have one. It's not really that big of a motivator as people think it might be.

>>11959400
it is if it's a cute girl you befriended!
I really liked my high school piano mentor.

>>11959400
Mentors who are shitty at mentoring and just mind their own business won't affect you much. You need someone who is active and engaging in your drawing activities.

>>11959421
Like who?

>>11959512
You're mother in bed

>>11958732
Please never stop drawing

can the next thread please put the number of the thread in the picture?

i like seeing them and I miss them. ;_;

>>11959625
this is so badly worded, i hope you guys know what the fuck I'm on about.

>>11959627
Your post only became confusing after you said it was confusing.

I accidentally pressed escape while making this post...

I wanted to try a space station of sorts but I wouldn't know what it would look like so I opted for another moon.

>>11960125
Nice foreground colors, that giant hill on the back should tend more towards blue however

Why do you guys draw? Do you all have plans to be freelancing artists who do commissions for money? Maybe bigger dreams?

>>11960342
I draw because I like to draw, that's it. It's nice to be able to put your ideas on paper too. To draw only for money would be ridiculous, there's much better ways to get money.

>>11960342
I want to draw cute girls.
I also get ideas that I feel like seeing come to life by drawing.
Mostly the first point.

I want to NTR ;_;

>>11960433
Me on the left.

>>11960125
You could try something like the stations in EVE Online, or a simpler one like the moonbase from Borderlands 2.

Or just the International Space Station or something.

>>11957112
Does one of them have a penis?

>>11960342
I want to be able to make a simple and cute comic series like someone who used to post here often.

>>11960666
Dan Kim?

>>11958602
I wanted to sketch one of the rooms today, my mind drifted so the small lamp I had turned into this

>>11960703
But good.

>>11960749
A little too blurry but, otherwise, not bad at all! Colors are nice and I like that you're going for dreamy landscapes (in that sense, even the incidental crooking gives the entire thing a little more character). If you exploit that well (say, like in Yume Nikki) and together with your otaku/Imageboard culture references, it can turn into a very interesting doujin game.

>>11960793
>it can turn into a very interesting doujin game
btw, where is the loli kidnapping guy? I haven't seen anything from him lately.

>>11960798
Me neither. Last time I saw him he was working on the loli mindbreaking mechanics.

>>11960804
Cute egg okuu dude. How do people come up with such cute ideas?

>>11960798
I heard he got jobs so he's not working on it anymore
Either that or he's in jail for trying to collect data of vagina sizes

>>11960861

Ah that's a real shame.