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There you are thread. Don't go missing on me like that.

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>>11932530
ヲ

I'm starting to lose faith, I spent 16 hours yesterday and the day before doing 5 sub 5-3 attempts, got to the boss node twice in 32 hours.

Today I spent 10 hours so far trying with a normal fleet, made it to the boss node 4 times, killed flagship twice, haven't made it back to the boss node again in 4 hours or so.

>>11932602
Post the fleet your using and maybe we can help.

>>11932604

>>11932602

Check this from the last thread >>11929484

>>11932614
Take out sonar, put damekon on everyone.
Just keep advancing. Don't waste your time retreating. Just ignore the sub and kill the transport boss with your monkeys.

>>11932530
666 minutes in paint.

>>11932622
Well that was a fucking disaster, no one even attacked the fucking flagship yet again.

This motherfucker right here. It consumed 34 dev kits just to get 4 drums, which felt like creating 3 star planes. Fuck you, devs.

>>11932639

Don't waste damekons on 5-3.

>>11932640
that's a pretty good rate for 4 drums, stop complaining.

>>11932640
What recipe/flagship?

>>11932645
>>11932622
Good job, Wo.

>>11932647
All 10 with Phoenix as my flag.

>>11932640
Shut the fuck up retard, there were people in the last thread who had spent 90 dev kits and got 0 drums, although it wouldn't surprise me if you were just pretending to be unsatisfied for replies.

I definitely don't see any point in using anything other than all-10 for drums; I just burned some time spamming all-10 while browsing pixiv and came up with 6 drums to about 10 non-drum equipment (of course most of them coming while I was trying to get the 6th drum). Even if adding resources slightly increases the chance of drums it's not worth the time spent clicking and the wasted devmats due to more garbage results. I did try 10/10/10/20 for a little while hoping to get drums and type-3 sonars but after only getting a bunch of 1-star planes and type-93 sonars I gave up on that.

>>11932645
Pray and tell where you are going to use it?

>>11932640
Same here, it took me 35 dev kits to craft 4 drums.
I was expecting to get a lot more but I'll have to wait til I get more dev kits.

>>11932651
I'm sorry, but I only care about my dev kits, not theirs. I bet they have more than 500 or something to burn.

>>11932654

Events maybe? But that's your choice, last thread there was some other anon with a similar fleet trying to get through 5-3 and he recieved lots of advices.

>>11932662
Then suck it up and just keep trying.
2DD+4 is the only strategy that you need. What you decide to fill your fleet with depend on how much you are willing to pay for the repair fee when they eat a cut-in.

Wait a minute here.
I didnt do any sortie at all after midnight. After the rank reset I am at 440 with 57points.
Did I messed up? What were the cutoff time for February ranking.

Did they change something with getting great success on expedition 21 using 4 drums+2 sparkle ships? My last 3 runs haven't given me great success. Am I just getting really unlucky?

>>11932662

I'm that anon, still haven't managed to do it once.

I'm using kongou/Haruna and they always get crit to red, always. Unless kongou kai ni gets some kind of reduction to cut in damage I am not spending the 2k+ resources to remodel her.

Though so far in my 5-3 attempts, if the first node doesn't get me, second node fucking does.

If i can manage to get past that, its smooth sailing to the boss, but I've only ever made it three times and all three times I couldn't kill the sub and do any damage at all. (I've tried around 30 + times now)

I really want to get past this so i can do 5-4 but this is extremely demoralizing, I've seen my resources drop from 35K + to 23k and my buckets go from 250 to 190.

I'm considering just to stop trying and put everything on hold just so i can recover. The impending fear of Midway on the horizon is also a contributing factor.

>>11932699
Maybe you need more drums?

I get the feeling that whenever I use more than one Torpedo Cruiser, they end up doing a huddle-up where they determine that they will all target the same enemy on torpedo phase.

>>11932714
>>11932639
If you're going to ignore the troll sub I would replace Kiso with another CA.

I used a 2CA 2BB 2DD fleet and got 3 kills in 5 boss nodes. Double line seemed to work best for me on the way and line ahead at the boss.

I only had 3 subs but had pretty decent luck getting to the boss node with them, but they were pretty shitty a killing the flagship, 2 out of 8 tries. I would just run them when your other ships are fatigued if you don't want to go just subs.

In the end it cost me like 50+ buckets and tons of fuel and steel, but the drops from 5-4 have been pretty nice to me, so it was worth it,

>>11932739
to counter that, you have to use more torpedo cruisers

>>11932714
I spent around 30k resources and 150 buckets with normal fleet (4 CAs + 2 DDs), so keep going.

>>11932714

The only advice I can give you is to try completely different fleets. Even if you use the same type of ships, try a different order.

From the last thread, I used:

F1: DD/DD/DD/CL/CL/CA
F2: CA/CL/CL/DD/DD/DD
F3: CL/CLT/DD/DD/DD/CA

I know this sounds crazy, but hey, it worked for me in a few maps, including in this one, so try changing your fleet order.

Also, use double attack set-ups in everything except on Yukikaze/Shigure, put a sonar (type-3 preferably) on your DD/CLs, make one of them a "ASW specialist" and stuff her with ASW.

For CA I used a 20.3cm main gun, a 15.5 secondary gun, radar and sanshiki, on CL I used a 20.3cm main gun and a 10cm High angle guns plus a sonar (except on Yuubari and Isuzu, they had a sonar and a depth charge).

Originally, I thought only my main fleet would make it to the boss, the other 2 were just for leveling there, replacing the damaged destroyers and repair them without using buckets, but those fleets worked out fine so I just kept using them.

If you're going to ignore completely the troll sub, then just bring BB and CA and pray.

What's a good setup for 4-3?

>>11932675
I'm confused about this as well. Was the rank update from 3pm on February 28 in Japan the final rankings?

>>11932812
No, the points you start with are your rank exp at the final update for the month/50k... (so the more often you rank, the easier it becomes)

>>11932820
So basically as long as you are top500 at the start it means you ended up inside the top500 at the previous month?

>>11932826
No, it's your total exp/50k at the start of the month

>>11932789
>make one of them a "ASW specialist" and stuff her with ASW.
Running it with 6 DDs, one sonar on each DD (only two of them type-3) was enough for me to kill the flagship Ka in ring formation. For the Yo I had to go heavier on ASW but I didn't want to sacrifice double attack so I used Yuubari with double attack + 2 type-3 sonar as flagship.

My issue with going all ASW on a ship is I didn't want to lose double attack on my flagship since the first attack in night battle is so important, but if you put the ASW ship anywhere else then you risk having her get critted before she kills the sub and then you're toast.

It does provide insurance against red T bullshit, but I was willing to just concede that as a loss rather than risk eating extra cut-ins every run due to lack of double attack on one ship.

>>11932835
So if you were on the edge of top 500, you won't know if you made it until monthly rewards come out unless I somehow missed a rank update between the 3pm one and 3am one.

>>11932843
That's why you don't sit on the edge of the top 500, most of the rankers spam 5-2 on the final day

>>11932798
2CA preferably Maya+1
2CV 125+ air superiority
2BB

If you want to S rank change the BBs for CL/DD with decent ASW equipment and use circle formation at boss.

>>11932847
It's not like I wanted to sit on the edge. I was just an inefficient idiot for the first half of the month.

>>11932843
Well I was catching up after I got out of LSC.
Besides 5-4 just came out of nowhere and I just dont feel safe when I am at 4xx

>>11932789

mind telling me which CAs and CLs you used?

and your third DD (poi?)

Has Kancolle's 15 minutes of fame timed out already? This thread is awfully lacking unless we're all waiting for gaijin ships to be implemented.

>>11932880
Everybody who is a top player has already beaten 5-4 to death and everybody who isn't is de facto banned from blogging.

/a/ still has a ton of random shit going on in its threads anyway.

>>11932880
But is is the thread with the highest traffic in /jp/.
Is Touhou finished using your same logic?

>>11932887
Touhou is finished too.

>>11932887
I think you all lied to me about being neets

>>11932880
I don't think it's going to die off that quickly, dailies and PvP battles are enough to keep most people entertained between updates and events.

6 drums aren't 100% great success for exp21, just got a normal success from that with 1CL and 5DDs equipped with a drum each.

>>11932868

CA: Takao, Suzuya, Kumano.

I didn't use Shigure/Poi for this map.

>>11932849
I've got all of those remodeled. Only thing is I don't have good fighters, just a Shinden Kai 2, 3x Type 52 and some Type 21.

>>11932933

I forgot to add the CLs, Yuubari, Abukuma, Isuzu Kai 2, Noshiro, Naka Kai 2, and Kiso Kai 2.

Good fleet set-up for 4-4? Not that anon who asked for 4-3 by the way.

>>11932743
Finally did it, tomboy really pulled her weight even though she's only level 27 with maxed modernisation stats, I'm close to tears right now, some odd 40 hours of this grueling cesspit and it's finally over.

>>11933019
Good job. Surprised that your fleet is in really good health though.

>>11933027
Me too, we even took the eastern route before the boss so we got the extra node, first time I made it this far with my girls in such great shape, I love them so much.

>>11932936
As long as you have enough to reach the 125ish+ marker you should be fine.

>>11932916
The report says even 20 drums doesn't guarantee great success.

>>11933000
2DD any will work
1CA just use your highest level or maya
+
2CV(L)
1BB
or
2CLT
1BB
or
3BB


For the last 25% put some ASW on your DDs/CLTs and use circle (or double line) at the boss.

>>11933000
For the weekly, I use 1BB 2CV 1CA 2DD. I ignore the troll sub and just go line ahead and go for A rank.
The hardest part for me is getting past G without one of my DD's being hit to red, and actually getting sent to the boss node.

>>11933000

DD/BB/CA/DD/CV/CV

In that order.

Also, for the CVs I used 1 green the rest reds, and for the other one 1 green the rest blues.

Hey /jp/ am I overdoing it a bit much on my reppu for 5-4? My current air superiority is 316, just finished my first attempt and I noticed there's not many enemy carriers.

>>11933049
Do you guys think if having 3sparkle ships will push the success rate to 100%?

>>11933091
Two reppus is enough.
I use shoukaku with Reppu and 12A on other slots, Kaga with reppu and ryuusei kai on the other slots and the carriers never do any damage.

>>11933091
The oni has fucking tons of green plane. 316 isnt actually enough for total air superiority.

>>11933091
S ranked 5-4 with a level 1 carrier using these planes >>11933097

Don't worry about air superiority or stuff like that, just throw 4 drums on your fleet and the whole map becomes super easy.

Why do kancolle devs hate slow ships? I want to use my beloved BBVs but that means eating a maelstrom. When are we going to get a map that punishes fast ships?

>>11933185
Kadokawa probably forgot they existed.

>>11933185
Your love for them isn't enough if you let a Maelstrom stop you.

>>11933185
I think you can use your BBVs, just dont take any carriers and you'll take the middle route.

>>11933185
Suck it up and do the middle route like real men instead of being a pussy.

>>11933000

>>11933346

Anyone have the latest LSC report? I'm feeling lucky!

>>11933350
Thanks Iona!

>>11933350

I want Iona to come back. ;_;

>>11933071
Just stick some AA machine guns on the DDs and go double line at G.

Is the World 4 weekly worth doing?

>>11933409
It's 700 baux + 800 more baux as well as 5 dev kits if you do the 4-4 boss and 5-2 boss quests after it. It's worth it if you need the baux and want to get some experience on the ships/subs you do it with.

>>11933409
Not unless you want to farm 4-2

17th Server: Kanoya, Kagoshima. So they keep using Japanese location from now on.

How do I Reppu? Or even Shiden? My inability to craft green holo planes while I have more 12A and RyuuKai than I can even use is beginning to upset me. Please give me your placebos and miracle recipes.

>>11933453
10/20/60/100(110 if you want yellow). I get an ok amount of greesn and blues but no 12A's so far.

>>11933453
20/20/10/90 gave me 4 reppus and 8 shiden kais through this year.
I dont remember how many attempts i did.

>>11933453
Taihou + miracle recipe.
Lets trade I dont have enough s12a to do carrier spam grind.

>>11933409
4-2 gives you free steel

>>11933458
Same recipe but it's the opposite for me, I already have 5 12A and still no Ryuusei Kai.

>>11933471
Welp, RNG gonna RNG.

ammo are supposed to be the fastest to recover, what expedition gives best?
I have about 12k ammo left while the others stay at 30k

>>11933461
I got four 12A in the span of about 10 crafts today. Fuck everything.

>>11933425
Different anon, what fleet to use for 4-2 if I don't have a sub fleet?

>>11933491
spam ex2

>>11933491
Please, there's a wiki.

>>11933503
thanks, other than that?

I spam ex2 for bucket, my satsuki only missed 1 by 5 run.

>>11933498
3DD+3CLT

>>11933508
Just run 2/3/5 or 2/5/21

>>11933031
Heh, I got that on my second clear. Even got an S rank from there, my only S rank in 5-3 boss node during my clearing runs.

>>11933513
>2/3/5
You mean 2/4/5 right?

>>11933543
4 has real shitty gains other than the buckets which you will get enough from 2 anyway, it's better to do 3 which gives you almost triple the total resource gain compared to 4 with just a little less ammo.

>>11933513
thanks, I'll just do subs run while waiting

So did you buy the new furniture?

>>11933666

But of course. The winking Naka is really cute.

I've got Yayoi in my second run, hoping to get Suzuya or Turkey at least. And while 5-4 is pretty easy so far, I hate the fact that I can only have Air Superiority with 6 Reppu against the Oni node.

>>11933681
My turnouts: Eight Yayoi, Six Naganami, Five Mutsu, Three Shoukaku, One Yuugumo, One Akigumo, Two Agano, Three Kumano, Two Zuihou, Two Goya, Five Ryujou, One Beaver

So far: 0 Iku - 0 Turkey - 0 Makigumo - 0 Suzuya

What offends me the most is the RJ flatshit carrier from S rank
Also, five Mutsu? Seriously now? Six holos and not one of them is the Turkey? God dammit.

>>11933681
>>11933698
I'm laughing at whoever it was that spent so many runs trying to get Yayoi from 2-2 now.

>>11933702
That's me. Aka >>11933698

I also did that to cheaply get world 2 wins, 24 boss visits and so forth. Also a good source of BBs. I once got 28 BBs out of 50 runs, with the rest being CA, CVL or CV. I had a long to modernize.

>>11933681
>>11933698
I had two Zuikakus, two uzukis, three yayois, one agano, one kumano, two zuihou, one yuubari and a lot of RJ/other common ships that I didn't count.

I think I'll be stopping here though, I got what I wanted.
I finally have the Kumano I've always wanted and tried for months to get. Agano came out after while trying to get one last run to level up so that was a nice bonus and a great way to end the day.

>>11933698
I saw it on Nico when some Japanese player got a Turkey with 5 subs. At least you'll get benefits in ranking and whatnot. So how many buckets do you use per run?

I used to retreat often because Beaver always eats a crit in the first node, but I think I'm gonna stop doing that.

>>11933706
Oh right, forgot about Iku and Makigumo x2

>>11933708
I average 1~2 per run, ships there don't deal a lot of damage but I still have to bucket here and there.

3 Kumano, 1 Zuikaku, 1 Uzuki, 2 Yayoi, 2 Mutsu, 2 Naganami, 2 Makigumo, 2 Goya, 3 Zuihou, 3 Agano, 1 Iku and countless crap like RJ.

Kept the DD for Sonar farming, scrapped the rest.

>>11933721
>sonar farming
Why does anyone need to do this?

I just got my 10th type 3 sonar doing 10/50/11/51. I have around the same number of type 93 sonars. Maybe slightly more.

>>11933708
I didn't count how many runs I did tbh. I went through 120 or 150 buckets since the map came out but I did bucket like even at yellow damage for my carriers since they'd go orange from scratch damage mid-sortie otherwise

Also, I don't believe 5 subs is reliable enough for 5-4
The first node can drop 1-3 subs to orange easily, then you have to get lucky and not have the gold DD at the night battle node kick you to yellow or even orange and then you have to deal with the pre-boss node. Just no. No. Absolutely not.

>>11933730
Because not everyone wants to waste their devkits like that. Also, if I do sub hunting daily anyway and need to bring DD for subs pvp, I might as well level those DD

That said, I've Kai'd like 20 Makigumos at this point and have two more. And six Naganamis from 5-4. Gonna take me a month to get rid of this.

>>11933731
The first and second nodes are easy with 5 subs but the pre-boss node is the worst thing ever if you're running all subs.
Can be easy if you're lucky and all your subs hit their targets because the hime normally deals scratch damage but the other enemies there can ruin your run.

>>11933736
With depth charges becoming more useful you might as well do it anyway.

I started off doing 10/10/10/20 but am switching recipes because of sonars and depth charges. And drums. 10/30/10/31 gives me too many type 90+s so I use 10/30/10/51 or 10/30/11/51 instead. (I'll drop the latter recipe since it seems you can get drums with all 10.)

>>11933730
Must be nice to be so lucky, I have at least 15 type-93 sonars versus 3 type-3. And one of them came from Makigumo and one from the Yamato event, I've only built one ever.

I can't get any type-14 or 32 radars either, all I get are 13 and 21

>>11933740
Easy? Three gold CL, one of them being the flag, is easy?
What.

>>11933730
I need something to keep me playing, that's all.

>>11933752

May as well start up a quint torpedo farm while you're at it.

>>11933755
Believe it or not, they never hit my subs and I can always get past that node without damage except for times when im really unlucky.

Did the runs with 5 subs.

>>11933755
I already did.

>>11933758
Meant to quote
>>11933754

>>11933741
I have not seen any proof of the bonus the devs claim
Type 3 sonar + type 3 depth charge ( or 2 sonars + 1 depth charge or 2 depth charges + 1 sonar ) are so far all inferior to 3 sonars. Hits less, too.

Probably on the same magnitude as "More empty construction slots improve your chances to get rare ships"

>>11933750
You use DD flagship, right?

>>11933752
>>11933759
Poi gun farm, Kinugasa/Mikuma farm, 15.5 yellows farm, Isuzu farm, helping us to test if shelling support is better support expedition than aerial or torpedo expedition...

>>11933763
If that's the case just do 10/10/10/20 for sonars and drums. I got most of my first 9 type 3s from that anyway.

>>11933768
Poi gun farm, you mean make few of red eyes Poi?

>>11933768

>Poi gun farm

Why didn't I think of this.

>>11933768
I didn't ask for suggestions, but okay.

>>11933768
Where do you get all that exp and where do you get the patience to do this?

>>11933772
>Poi gun

What?

>>11933754
Not him, but they are at least in line ahead, unlike preboss node which is essentially the same as 4-2 preboss node (with the key difference being you're more likely to have orange subs that do less damage and might fail to kill the CL even if you target it)

>>11933768
Either DD or CL, mainly DD lately just because Mochizuki is my secretary most of the time. I just do 10/10/10/20 because I've never seen enough of a return from spending extra resources on equipment (especially with increased non-penguin results wasting extra devmats).

As for depth charges, I'm already set on those anyway having built a bunch back before sonars got buffed (and I don't think type-3 was even buildable yet). Oh the days when killing a single boss sub required deliberate preparation of ASW ships and depth charge construction.

>>11933785
Line Ahead can still oneshot you straight down to orange. Another hit, even by a gold DD in double line, and you're red. run over.

>>11933785
Yeah, DDs are better for crafting sonars/depth charges with because CLs are more likely to give more junk.

>>11933768
Does this actually give drums? Because I tried like 60 times and have yet gotten one.

Wait, did they announce TWO new servers?

Who's that poor girl you make carry the barrels?

>>11933810
Suzuya carries all four of my barrels
And she still occasionally does crazy stunts like critting a gold Wo for 50 damage or hammering the flag transport for 150 damage at night

>>11933810

My Suzuya is strong enough to carry all 4 of them while pulling our damage and strong crits.

As expected of my shipfu.

>>11933811
>And she still occasionally does crazy stunts like critting a gold Wo for 50 damage or hammering the flag transport for 150 damage at night
This is exactly why I use suzuya instead of Yuubari.

She actually does damage and sometimes crits or kills ships, something Yuubari can do.

I put Yuubari in for a few runs to level her but I'll make kumano carry them if I do 5-4 again to level her now that I got her.

>>11933811
my Poi one shot a Ta flagship class in night battle with nothing but ASW equipment, she did a 197 crit.

must of been a pretty large rock she threw.

>>11933814
If Poi ever gets a Kai 3, she'll have a Solomon laser that comes straight out of her eyes. Like Superman's heat vision. Just more moe.

>>11933815
More like summon the Millennium Castle Brunestud

>>11933815
You don't mean the Graviton cannon, right?

>>11933817
I do not get that reference.

>>11933818
Gravity Cannons are blue. Poi's Poi laser would be red. And only target one ship. But hit for like five times the damage.

>>11933819
Poi looks pretty similar to Arc from TMverse, color her clothes purple and bam there is our vampire princess.

Hmm.
3times in a row Ex21 I didnt get great success with 6barrel. I think I am going to do 6barrel+2sparkle.

>>11933831
I do 5Drum+2sparkle and all have Great Success so far.

Never before have CAV been this useful

So two new servers named after the night flight specialists 芙蓉部隊 elite squad bases.
As they once told in the Febri interview, night combat capable Suisei is coming?

A chart.

>>11933878
Thanks, based m anon.

>>11933878
Thanks

>>11933878
Ugh, I really want to do that 42.2% taihou craft but the low entry amount makes me afraid

>>11933885
RNG favors the bold. Go for it

>>11933866
It'd be quest reward like that Stuka or Shinano's stock.

do you sparkle before doing 5-4?

>>11933900
No

>>11933900
for what purpose.

>>11933885
It's 40.3%, but yes, go for it anyway.

>>11933885
Enjoy your CVL/Maruyu.

>>11933909
Has anyone managed to get their Maruyu to sparkle?

>>11933916
Well shit.

Guess we'll never be able to hear her MVP lines?

>>11933915
It's only possible in PVP.

>>11933915
go 1-1?

>>11933917
1-1

When will superior gaijin warships appear?

I want to sink the pathetic HMAS Sydney with my armed merchantman Kormoran

>>11933919
>>11933920
Wait, you mean the DDs and CLs there won't crit Maruyu to red?

If gaijin ships ever appear will the KMS Scharnhorst be a trap?
It was one of the few ships refered to as a he.

>>11933922
you're playing the wrong game then

>>11933930
all ships are female

>>11933922
oi u wot m8, havin a giggle?
I'll get me roo to sock yer face in

>>11933923
She should be able to sink 1-1-1-chan after remodel if you equip her with quadruple or quintuple torpedoes.

>>11933923
Retreat on the first node

>>11933930
Anon pls, you think the devs will care?

>>11933934
>>11933935
You can't get sparkles if you retreat on the first node, you forgot? Even if you get perfect S you still end up with -1 to your morale overall.

>>11933938
the topic was hearing her MVP line, sparkling is a different matter

>>11933937
Who knows sooner or later we will fall into the experimental warships kinda like WoT did after a while.

>>11933938
MVP line can still be heard.

>>11933941
>>11933943
Fair enough, but the original topic was indeed sparkles: >>11933915

>>11933944
see
>>11933916

then came
>>11933917

>>11933915

>>11933946
Awesome.

>>11933942

WOT did experimentals right from the start.

>>11933961
Based Iku

>>11933959
>24%
Musashi is so sexual.

Appreciate Wo.

>>11933959
Guess pic related didn't help the Ise class much, both R-18 wise and non-R18 wise.
Though Yamashiro and Hyuuga were separated by 1.

>>11933961
>Iku
No surprises there. Except that Iku has too little fanart as compared to other top ships of their types.

>>11933961
>26% R-18
As expected of the sluttiest SS.

>>11933968
>any submarine
>slutty
>>>/a/

>>11933966
>Wo 3350
>others 2062
Holy shit.

Subs really don't get enough love.

>>11933967
The subs in general have a lack of fanart, it's also sad to see Maruyu getting more than Hachi.

>>11933971
But she is, the statistics and her actions are there to prove it.

>>11933974
Pedophiles draw stuff, too

>>11933975
Statistics of fanart, meaning I could draw you sucking dicks and it would make you a 100% slut?

>>11933975
Your delusions do not count for anything, anon

>>11933980
>>11933983
Her fanart is based on how she behaves in-game. It's not that hard to figure that out.

>>11933987
You have severe retardation, I'm sorry.

>>11933987
If you're serious you should seek medical help, you're hallucinating

>>11933991
>>11933993
It's not my fault if you can't figure that out.

every time firefox crashes it empties my cache. How the hell do I prevent that? Is the cache stored somewhere locally so I can make a backup and just put it back whenever this happens?

>>11933019
40 hours? Holy crap. You should of just used CLTs and gotten some Sonars, took me like 10-15 tries.

>>11934012
why does you firefox crash often enough for you to care about that?

>>11934012
dont use firefox?

>>11934024
fuck if I know why. But even if it crashes just once every 2 weeks that's way too often.

>>11934027
Not an option.

>>11934029
Why so stubborn? Autism?

>>11934031
Please.
Take your trollbait somewhere else, will you?
I have my reasons, all of them being convenience and too much effort.

>>11934034
Well then take your tech support question with you and leave. We only give either troll answers, or direct people to the wiki.

I'm so glad 5-4 was made, my CVs were all sub 50, and now they are hitting 70. Hopefully I can get them to 90 before Midway.

>>11934029
firefox should not crash that often. But go ask at Mozilla or somewhere on how to fix that, this has nothing to do with the game.

>>11934029
Switch to Pale Moon, it's Firefox, except better (if you're on windows).

Someone suggested that one should run 4-2 for the weekly if subs aren't an option, but I find it too harsh on the buckets when you have to use 2-3 of them per run. Are there any other alternatives other than running main fleet?

>>11934059
with 3DD 3CLT*

An all sub fleet is laughably easy if you bring a support expedition. Saves on steel and bauxite, too.

Pic related is the boss drop of my first such attempt. Got perfect S rank for all nodes except night battle node.

>>11934063
What kind of support fleet did you use?

>>11934063
Well shit, fucked up my screenshot again.

But at least I call dibs on this screenshot.

>>11934064
Poi, Beaver, 4 Kongous, the usual. All sparkled; Poi through 1-1, Beaver through 5-3 aftermath, Kongous through PvP. Yes, I train my Kongous in PvP. Poi was holding her unique 12.7 and 2 10cms, Beaver was holding 3 10 cms, the Kongous were holding 2 46cms and 2 41cms each.

>>11934048
Not him, but I just swapped to it from aurora to see what it was like, seems neat but 4chan x isnt working properly on it since it's not on firefox 26 or higher.

>>11934085
>4chan x isnt working properly on it since it's not on firefox 26 or higher.
I'm stuck with 4chan's default extension, fuck Firefox v26+, I fucking hate that change to the find bar. It also removed the address bar and search bar having different search engines which I abuse a lot.

I really want to level my suzuya, she's my favourite CA but her sprite degrades in quality even more than Kongou's kai2, why do I even live?

>>11934107
What search engine even exists that is better than google? Unless you're talking about using search engines like startpage and DDG so you can search for PTHC, as for me I don't need that and really really love 4chan X, I'll keep check of pale moon, maybe one pay it'll update.

I like how this guy draws KTKM and Chitose.

did they change the requirement for 2-2?
been switching between 2CV and 2CVL fleet but compass wont let me go to boss node.

>>11934118
Not too sure what map you meant, 4-2 has no compass rules, 3-2 you need 6 DDs and 5-2 (dont know you you typed 2 instead of 5) is 2CV 1 CVL

>>11934121
>4-2 has no compass rules
Wrong, if you have 2+ DDs you will never get the maelstrom.

2-2 is the map where it's said you have a 70% chance of getting to the boss node if you bring either 1+ or 2+ CV(L)s (apparently AVs and SSVs count but Taihou doesn't), and 30% otherwise.

>>11934118
Seems like it. My subs are on exp30, so I've been trying to clear it for a while, but I only got there once after 10+ tries.

>>11934121
He's talking about 2-2 which is a fast alternative to 2-3 if you want to finish the daily quickly.

>>11934118
Shit RNG happened.
I got send to the non sub node in 5-1 6times in a row earlier.

>>11934121
No confirmation, but it seems having a CV/CVL in your fleet has a better chance of going to boss node (E - E or NE - SE - E).

>>11934132
I always do 2-2 with 3CV3CLT anyway. The bauxite node basically covers the plane cost and I don't even need to repair most of the time.

>>11934118
I was 3 out 3 at 2-2 earlier using Hiyou and Zuihou.
Too laze to do sub run nowadays. With ex21, I can play every other 2hours now.

>>11934125
Welp, scratch that, AVs and SSVs don't seem to count anymore. Taihou still doesn't seem to count though.

5-4 turns out to be more taxing to my resource than 5-2. You can run a lot of them, so I end up using more resource. Other people also run a lot of them, so it force you to run more as well.

>>11934071
It costs you more to sortie your subs and support fleet than to take the north route, and you get xp on useful ships

>>11934144
Thats... Pretty insightful, to say the least.

>>11934149
I'm the anon who got more fuel than all other resources put together, and ammo is easy to farm.

But you're right, I should try 4 CAs instead of 4 BBs.

>>11934153
If you insist on wasting xp on your subs then take 2DD 2CVL (w 4 12As) each for support

5-4 is a ploy for you guys to toss in all your resources for ships that are nothing more than trophies

When Midway comes your rare CA/CLs will not save you

>>11934166
I don't give a shit. my bauxite is pretty high anyway.

>>11934166
Why are you playing this game?

>>11934166
I'm more worried on my ammo than my baux right now.. from 35k to 10k thanks to 5-4

>>11934125 >>11934131
RNG is a bitch, I did like 25 run now but only get there once.. been having terrible time to reach world 2 boss since the last maintenance.

>>11934166
Same could be said for LSC, and for event maps.

>>11934166
>When and event to get trophy ships comes your trophy ships won't save you
FTFY.

>>11934162
Is aerial support good?

>>11934189
No, but that counts as shelling support

>>11934179
Lets see who will have the last laugh when my yamatos and taihou breeze the event map while your monkeys and 1st cardiv are getting buttblasted to red by a super wo.

>>11934210
>Yamatos
So you can put more than one Yamato in one fleet?

Don't cheat, Onii-chan.

So, I never farmed 5-2 before, but I just finished my 20th 5-4. Still no Zuikaku drop, which map do you guys reckon has a higher chance to drop her?

>>11934166
I run it for Turkey
When exactly did Turkey become a trophy ship and cease to be a useful CV?
Oh wait, she hasn't. You're just a gigantic shitbag.

>>11934210
k.

>>11934214
he's talking about Yamato-class, obviously.

>>11934215
I'm sure the drop rate is nerfed on the second day

>>11934215
20 is low tier
I'm at double that, no Turkey
I'll probably need 100 runs to get her

>>11934214
Musashi is parked under Yamato class aniki.

>>11934166
I can understand not farming 3-4 for Hatsukaze but 5-4 is so easy and only used up 2xx/3xx each run. You can easily get all the ships that you want under 5k resources.

>>11934215
I got every possible drop there multiple times before Zuikaku came to me. I don't know what the rarest is supposed to be but I found 3 Uzukis and every holo background gave me a heart attack. Took me maybe a hundred runs and way too many buckets; I really didn't want to count. But 5-4 is more reliable than 5-2 so just keep at it. Eventually you'll get her, even if it takes you till level 103.

>>11934215
5-4 is a ton easier than 5-2 so I'd stick with that unless you want Mikuma too. I got Zuikaku twice in 5-4, but I needed Shoukaku and we all know how RNG is..

>>11934223
R-18 35%
Oh boy

The thread seems to be slowed down a little after update

>>11934236
There's a chance that the devs will quietly nerf the drop pool, so you shouldn't be wasting your time either.

>>11934236
Of course, what do you expect?

>>11934221
Turkey seems to be pretty rare.

>>11934237
That's paranoia on a whole new level

>>11934241
It already happened before. Better be safe than sorry.

>>11934242
They added Mikuma to the pool and changed the node composition of the map.
Or what other 'nerf' are we talking about here?

Fucking finally finished the 5 boss daily. Managed to get the 50 transport weekly (which I started today) to 80% before I cleared the damn quest.

>>11934210
PVP has really warped how good you think your ships are.

>>11934240
And just when I was about to give up for tonight.
I should complain to /jp/ about my horrendous luck more often.

>>11934247
good for you, I'm still 1 of 5 and its been over 12hrs.

>>11934255
>I should complain to /jp/ about my horrendous luck more often
I keep hearing this, will Taihou appear if I complain?

>>11934258
You should try.

>>11934251
I brought Yamato through 3-3 and 3-4 to get her damaged sprites. The difference in firepower is huge. Red T? No worry. Medium damaged? Nope no problem still can 1shot BB. She is also tough as fuck, took me ages to get her pads to come off.

>>11934255
>>11934258
My luck sure sucks, if only somehow... someway... I'd get my own turkey.

>>11934258
Dunno but it might be worth a shot (4/2/5/5.2 isn't really working for me)

My RNG on 4-3 is really screwed up after I take the post-marriage quest.

Wrong nodes, random red, A rank...

>>11934269
This is really strange! Really!
All the people I know and all anons here did that quest on the very fist try!
Me too, really! Your RNG is so mean!

>>11934223
>Shimakaze 1st
As expected.

I must've missed the ranking for destroyers because I can't find it.

>>11934223
RAIDEN SANDWICH

How does :

Taihou (Reppu, 12A, Ryuusei kai, 15.5cm)
Akagi (Ryuusei kai, 12A, Reppu, 15.5cm)
Kumano (4 drums)
Haruna (Married, 46cm, 46cm, Type14R, Sanshiki)
Kaga (Ryuusei kai, Type 62 fighter bomber, Reppu, Ryuusei kai)
Ooi (15.5cm, 10cm mod version, minisub)

sounds for 5-4 ?

>>11934411
You need 2 BB more than 2 CV

>>11934411
How about you test it out yourself?

>>11934415
yeah I'll do that and won't report how good or bad it is so we can all continue filling those threads
with god knows what as long as it's not game related info !

>>11934428
Do you want us to hold your hand while you click the sortie button as well?

>>11934428
Good job assuming we prefer non-game related topics. What are we without your quality posts!

>>11934414
I mean 3 cv

>>11934149
At least it's a good ammo sink for those with too much ammo to burn.

>>11934454
Hopefully another sub.

So what kind of foreign shipgirl do you think we're going to get, /jp/?

>>11934454
Some German/Italian sub, maybe?

>>11934455
>>11934456
I hope it isn't a sub just so we can get someone in an actual uniform. We can get bikini sub girls later.

>>11934454
I want Richelieu.

>>11934454
It is going to be a german ship isnt it.
Didnt they tweet something about guten tag or something.

>>11934462
Guten Tag just means Good Day
It's not a ship name or anything that can be related to one

>>11934462
Oh yes they did.

Allied ships when?

>>11934468
Yes, an italian or american ship is somehow related to guten tag. Way to miss the point.

>>11934474
The italians had ships?
More to the point, they can actually control a ship?
And american ships are the enemy, you might as well hope we'll get an official touhou crossover event

>>11934468
It's German implies it'll be a German ship.

>>11934473
Next year?

>>11934483
>And american ships are the enemy

Nice fanfic.

>>11934483
They had, not sure how they did perform but if we got thing like Maru-yu I doubt that matters much.

>>11934483
>And american ships are the enemy
I think the story goes that kancolle takes place in an alternate universe where WW2 did not happened. The whole world was suddenly attacked by abyss ships and they called up the spirit of WW2 ships to fight back against the aliens.

>>11934454
Considering the leaks last night, "rather unexpected ship unlike U-boat or BB", I'd say it will be German Panzerschiff.
Graf Spee by Fumikane anyone?

>>11934483
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regia_Marina#World_War_II_2

Axis ships, Allies ships, whatever. I just wish at least one of them is drawn by Ume-sensei and voiced by Hocchan.

>>11934498
Why. I wanted a U-boat to complete the 6 sub wolfpack. Maybe 2 so I can sit out the gas guzzler.

>>11934429
That is lewd.

>>11934498
CA with 28cm guns? not bad.

>>11934484
They greet followers in a foreign language every now and again, it's not limited to new ship announcement.

>>11934557
That must be a German for a reason.

Now who are the Axis, again?

>>11934557
The tweet went something like "In the spring you'll be hearing guten tag from new ships one after another". It wasn't just one of their greetings. And then back in the fall event they added the Ju 87 and surprised us with Hachi. It's all but outright confirmed at this point that we're getting Germans.

>>11934557
This one was pretty straight forward:
>Guten Morgen ! 来春にはそんな挨拶の海外艦も続々登場予定です！

Why does my carriers miss a lot?
They all have holo planes too.

>>11934594
They don't like you.

>>11934595
But I like them.
I even feed them lots of bauxite and give them nice and stronk fairies.
They are 1st CarDiv and Taihou by the way.

>>11934598
Probably because you were retarded and put your fairy at your largest slot then?

>>11934600
Largest slots are always occupied by my entirety of Reppu stock.
I mean three of them.Fuck crafting

>>11934598
why are you losing many planes?

So what's the deal with Mutsuki's consuming 6 bars of ammo for exp 21 while other ships use 7.

>>11934636
They want us to use Mutsukis for the expedition.

>>11934605
>>11934600
>>11934595
So let me show you the cost of a 5-4 run.
It is plane slots per se.
Kaga 59
-3
-10
-8
-1
Akagi 61
-2
-5
-3
-3
Taihou 50
-4
-9
-6
0

Hey /jp/ I'm having problems with KanColleViewer and i was hoping you could help me.
whenever I try to enter a battle with the Viewer it just won't load the battle. when I VS it shows my ships and the enemy ships, switches to the picture of that blue sky and then nothing happens. same with sorties. has anyone had this problem before? i've tried to troubleshoot by updating both IE and the flash for it and it stays the same, but i can play fine while in browser. i'm on w7 with .net 4.5 btw

>>11934411
Just completed it after some time because I didn't want to use buckets on the shorter repair time.

5 runs, 5 boss, 5 S rank.
I got there in almost full health two times, one yellow two times, and one orange one time.

Notable drops were Shoukaku, Zuihou, Uzuki.

>>11934414
>>11934439
How do you achieve supremacy going north with 2 CV?

>>11934720
Just roll with air superiority.

Modernized my DD fleet for 3-2 and sparkled them. For my boss run do I want to run line abreast on every single pre-boss node and line ahead on boss or is there some other strategy?

>>11934732
there are no subs to kill, why would you go for line abreast?

>>11934732
Up to you, actually. I used line ahead like a boss and cleared it in one go. Use line abreast if you want dodge (it reduces defence though); use double line if you believe in defence (BBs still have a chance of critting you to red though), use line ahead if you're not scared like yours truly was. And still is.

Echelon I'm not sure. Just don't use ring formation and you'll be fine.

>>11934743
>>11934746
Thanks for the tips.

Also why do people spend so much runs trying to get Yayoi when you can just craft her.

>>11934784
Thanks, /jp/, cleared on first try.

>>11934784
What...? Uzuki is the one that people want. You can't craft Uzuki.

>>11934801
there was at least one person that farmed 2-2 for Yayoi

Not bad from small boxes.

>>11934784
because fuck crafting and I still haven't crafted her from dailies.

>>11934784
Because they're retards.

>>11934833
Same. I've had the same fate for a while now, and been doing all 30 for dailies the past month. Nothing at all.

>>11934784
I envy you.

>>11934833
>>11934850
I feel bad getting her within 8 tries. Was spamming 4 at a time, got her in my 6th attempt.

I didn't get to craft Uzuki before the devs fixed that error, but at least I got Sazanami, the last common DD I was missing, and now I got Uzuki as a 5-4 drop.

Well, so much for my 100% success rate on 5-4, just had Kumano get critted straight to red by a Wo thanks to fucking green T.

I swear people claiming they can run 4-4 with 3 CLT or 5-4 with all blue/red planes and never get hurt by carriers are just Woposters trying to get us to feed our ships to them.

I actually have fun hunting for ships. LSC made me hate crafting with a passion.

>>11934866
Midway needs to hurry up so we can start farming for taihou instead of having to deal with LSC

>>11934846
Because it's totally not retarded to waste devmats on all-30 builds right? I was already using my dailies back then on Hachi attempts, and was running 2-2 for world 2 daily and eventually got Yayoi there.

Of course I recall we went through this exact same argument a couple weeks ago.

>>11934873
So, Yayoi doesn't drop from 2-3?

>>11934861
I've never had any problems with Yuubari as my flagship so far. The thing is two fucking Oni with red T annoyed the fucked out of me.

On another related story, here's my haul after more than 10 runs. I just want to have what I fucking want, isn't that much too ask?

>>11934870
I doubt Taihou will be a drop in Midway.
If we're lucky, we get Maruyu or Zunship

>>11934873
30all is the standard recipe you'll use for dailies if you have nothing else to craft, which will happen often enough anyway.

>>11934875
No.

>>11934878
>The thing is two fucking Oni with red T annoyed the fucked out of me.
>with red T
There's an easy way to prevent that you know

>>11934879
All ships become drops or craftable sooner or later.
Midway might be their anniversary event and anniversary events are usually huge things so Taihou might be a S rank drop on the last boss node there.

>>11934881
Well, duh. I use 6 Reppu, and having a Saiun won't help me either.

>>11934883
No way.

>>11934883
but she already is craftable

>>11934878
But the onis never do any damage and red T makes them miss all the time.

Whats the problem?

>>11934887
You missed the first part.
The point is that ships that are craft only will become drops later and drop only ships will become craftable later, no exceptions.

>>11934883
Right, but nothing has really happened since Taihou was added to the game. They aren't just going to bump ships down in rarity because they're old; someone has to take their place. Musashi will take Yamato's and she'll likely become a rare drop. And Shinano will probably take Taihou's and do the same. Just like Hachi became craftable because Shioi is the new limited sub. And if we get a german sub Shioi will probably become craftable as well. There has to be something that not every player can get their hands on easily.

>>11934892
we still have a bunch of uncraftable DDs

>>11934895
They're all easy to get except Hatsukaze though.

>>11934895
And they will become craftable later when a new one takes their place or just added to LSC.

>think about getting into Kacolle
>check wiki for waifus
>fine one I like
>event only

I'm fucked, aren't I?

Yay! More useless stuff, just what I needed the most.
>>11934888
I'm an S-rank fanatic, but you have a point there.

>>11934902
>Kacolle
Which waifu is it?

>>11934902
Who is she?

>>11934902
Shioi or Musashi?

By the time you get to a high admiral level they'll probably be obtainable. Of course, getting Musashi won't be very fun.

>>11934903
5-4, I suppose?

>>11934903
>Useless stuff
But pyon is great and you can level her for radars.

>>11934902
you're not reading the current discussion, do you?

>>11934911
Why would you level a ship for a shitty 2 star radar?

>>11934894
>And Shinano will probably take Taihou's and do the same
This is what I think its going to happen.

Shinano or some other carrier will take Taihou's place as the new trophy and incredibly hard to get ship and she'll get added as a rare drop to the last node, like Yahagi rare so everyone has to race and spend a shit ton of resources to get her.

>>11934908
Musashi

>>11934919
Have fun with LSC

I seriously doubt they will remove Taihou or hotel from LSC. They'll just cut the chance and add the new ship to the same pool.

>>11934925
But no one said they will be removed from LSC? Where did you see that?

>>11934929
he probably understood "take (their) place" too literaly.

>>11934903
Pyon is the only reason I'm even running 5-4, I'm pretty sure I already have everything else that drops there.

>>11934888
If only they actually missed; the obnoxious thing about red T at any preboss node is they still do chip damage, and because you can't kill them easily they get more attacks in.

So exp 21 made exp 9 absolutely redundant, unless for some reason you need fuel in such extreme quantity that you're running 5, 9 and 21?

>>11934944
Fuck, I got her twice in a row. If only trade system would be implemented here..
>>11934946
More like Ex 13 became obsolete. I'm running 21, 5, and 2 for buckets.

>>11934953
>If only trade system would be implemented here..
That would kill the game though

>>11934953
>If only trade system would be implemented here..

Do you know how retarded that would be?

>>11934955
The Devs can exploit it via real money anyway.

>>11934958
Are you retarded?
Oh wait, im sorry for asking the obvious.

Not going well with my hachis. But I guess they'll be dropping in next event and I'll get 4 of them.

>>11934964
Keep trying anon, took me a week of dailies to get her.

>>11934960
The concept is retarded in the first place, but think about both parties need to have special item in order to make a trade, for say, 2000 Yen, DMM makes extra money.

>>11934969
Why do people still think DMM have anything to do with the devs ?

>>11934969
Them charging money to trade ships would make this into the worst kind of P2W and kill the whole point of the game in one shot.

>>11934973
this
Even if kancolle's popularity isn't completely due to F2P, it has become part of the game, and changing it to P2P or even worse, P2W would make less money rather than more.

Does Agano class drop from 5-4? I've seen people post about it before, but wikiwiki says nothing.

>>11935035
I've only seen the fatty.

>>11935035
Wikiwiki says that yes, she does, but not her sisters.

>>11935035
Only Agano

>>11935048
>>11935050
>>11935053
Good enough.

What I'm liking about 5-4 is how I don't feel like I have to bring all the CLTs I can. Running it with 2 CAV, 1 BB, 1 CLT (Kiso because of her superior AA stat), 2 CV; this is actually the first time I've even used Suzuya outside of practice battle.

Although I'm tempted to replace Hiei with a 2nd CLT, I'm not sure she's hit a single target today that isn't a CVL or elite DD; she even just double whiffed at a Ru in night combat.

Jesus christ, what the actual fuck. I burnt through 40 devkits to 10 left trying to get drums. Then i crafted one drum after another, 4 in a row. I guess that wasnt a total waste then.

Wait, is 5-4 really this fucking easy?

Why the fuck does my double attack keep failing in practice battles? Not just single digit attacks, which happens way too often as it is, but double attack not even happening at all. Just got D rank against some shitty fleet when my opening attack failed then his first two ships took out my next two before they could fire.

>>11935380
Haven't you noticed that like 75% of attacks miss in practice battles?
The game isn't optimisied for PvP, it's 100% bullshit.

Anyone here had Akigumo drop from a normal node in 5-2?

About 10 runs on 2-3. All first rolls went East. What the hell's up with this RNG?

After losing track of how many 250/30/200/30 daily spams and 5-4 runs to try to get a sub that isn't umi no SNIPAH and Maruyu, I finally get Hachi. Then I got another one while finishing my daily crafts. I have so many mixed feelings about this.

>>11935433
>>11935452
Cursed dicerolls.

>>11934899
Except Hatsukaze, remember there is always exceptions.

>>11935452
Essentially, you'd want 4 of each SS anyway.

Having 2sparkle ships in ex21 is not guarantee great success. Feels like it is only around 75%.
Going to try with 3sparkle.

Are there any good recipes for Akitsumaru that aren't simply Taihou recipes? This bauxite investment is just killing me.

I'm following the wikiwiki recommended recipe for her, but according to >>11933878 it has pretty bad results.

Poor Mikazuki

>>11934652
Still better than my 2x Kumano, 2x Kongou class, 1 none.

>>11935861
I'm happy to see my waifu is now the 2nd-most popular Mutsuki, I didn't realize Nagatsuki had fallen so far back though, she and Mochizuki were about tied the last time I saw a chart.

>Ushio's R-18 rate
Holy shit, she and Hatsuharu both have speedslut beat. Meanwhile Shirayuki and Miyuki are the purest.

Also surprised that every Asashio has double-digit R-18%, Kasumi I expected but not ones like Ooshio. And Fumizuki is apparently the sluttiest Mutsuki with more than Kisaragi.

Once again the data is skewed though, Mutsuki is obviously not the 3rd-most-drawn Mutsuki-class. The search ends up picking up all results of 睦月型 as well. I don't think this really happens so much with other destroyer classes though. (e.g. people would probably tag Inazuma and Ikazuchi images as Raiden rather than Akatsuki-class)

>>11935861
Well, at least my favorite's in the top 10

>>11935955
Ushio is just too lewd for this world, everyone wants to squeeze her fuel tanks.

>>11934967
3 weeks and still Hachi-less

>>11935977
Its still better than doing E4 for her!

>>11935982
But I did

and fail miserably

今月中旬以降のメンテナンスに伴うアップデートでは、「艦これ」初となる海外艦の実装が予定されています。これには、
・伊号潜水艦の入手
・同潜水艦による潜水艦隊の編成
・潜水艦隊による長期派遣遠征
を達成しておくと入手へのアプローチが可能となります。
ぜひ、お楽しみに！

So, Shioi will be craftable? And damn, stop adding more sub expedition.

>>11936046
It's for yous spare subs, anon.

Rather than having you scrapping them

I have mixed feelings over 5-4 now that I finished cheesing 5-3.

>>11936062
Is the subs expedition worth it?