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Previous thread: >>11914682

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Please try to keep emoticons, greentext, screenshots, and dumb questions to a reasonable minimum.

>> No.11924656
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たてヲつ

>> No.11924665

>>11924648
You seem to be confusing name and subject.

>> No.11924666
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Behold, the decisive battle fleet. Surely, this will grant me victory at the upcoming Midway battle. I cannot imagine what can go wrong with such powerful battleships!

>> No.11924670

>>11924666
How did it feel to be rejected by Hiei?

>> No.11924671

>>11924666

How does marrying Hiei work?

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>>11924666
Nice fleet.

>> No.11924674

>>11924666
>I cannot imagine what can go wrong with such powerful battleships!
oy vey it's battleship row all over again

>> No.11924683

Free account
>>11924675
>>11924675

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>>11924648

>> No.11924698

>>11924683
>This image was never in our databases
How lucky, deleting it before its archived.
Guy should still change his API if he posted it though.

>> No.11924701

>>11924698
It is archived

>> No.11924707

>>11924698
he totally did

>> No.11924713

So, most likely Sendai will get a new remodel sprite with today's patch, just like it happened with Shiratsuyu class Destroyers, how does it make you feel? Yasen baka will never be as strong as Jintsuu and Nakachang, but most people will exp her to level 20 for the new sprite.

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Need buckets. RIP progress.

>> No.11924721

>>11924713
Sad. I like her the most of the three.

>> No.11924723

>>11924713
Didn't they say the new remodel sprite would go to someone who dreams of San Francisco? Which would make it someone from the Hiyou class.

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>>11924715
>not swimming in buckets

>> No.11924725

>>11924671
Her marriage line is "My heart belongs to Onee-sama" or something iirc... ;_;

>> No.11924734

>>11924725

Yes, I know, that's why I asked. A real shame, too, since she's so incredibly pretty after refit.

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>>11924724
I wish I was. There's probably a sortie I can farm them on that I should go to, expedition 2 is only giving me them very rarely.

>> No.11924739

>>11924725
Pretty much the same as Ooi line goes "Kitakami-san? Oh Admiral, yes i love you too." with her usual detached and cold tone.

>> No.11924740

>>11924724

I had about 1100 buckets once, then I used about 200-250 of them to level up Taihou so I could marry her before today's maintenance, thinking we'd get Midway and not 5.4.

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>>11924739
She questions why you chose her over KTKM and then gets a bit "yandere"

I was actually kinda suprized how well she accepted, I thought she would reject Teitoku.

>> No.11924752

tfw I get sent to boss of 1-1 when trying to sparkle shit. Why do you do this to me compass-chan

>> No.11924755

>>11924752
Because she hates you.

One day she will team up with error girl and kill you in your sleep.

>> No.11924760

>>11924739
Ooi 2: From the only two torpedo cruisers, are you alright with me? ...If you betray me, I'll send you to the bottom of the sea...

>> No.11924762

>>11924666
Enjoy never getting to the boss node.

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>>11924739

I didn't get that feeling from her when she said it at all, she even says 愛してます in a sweet tone. It also fits with her threatening to sink you (if I remember correctly) if you leave her after you marry her post-refit.

I'd marry her if circumstances were different.

>> No.11924772

>>11924739
Kitakami on the other hand has the single best marriage line among any ship.

"You like me? Good taste."

Yeah, this girl definitely deserves her harem.

>> No.11924774

Since we have 300 images now, do we really need to be anal about screenshots?

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>> No.11924777

>>11924776
Good taste.

>> No.11924782

>>11924774
No.

>> No.11924785

>>11924774
The thread will still last for days, so yes.

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This just downright cruel. It's like he wanted to show it off saying, "Look at me, everyone! I got a Taihou, and you don't!" Perhaps no exp for me this time.

>>11924752
Tell me when you're battling against 4 ships with T-disadvantage.

>> No.11924787

>>11924774
Just delete them after a couple of hours.

>> No.11924790 [DELETED] 

Your blog sucks dick m8.

>> No.11924796 [DELETED] 

>>11924786
Anonymous liked this post.

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>>11924786
Posted via Twitter™ for iPhone™

>> No.11924852

Do expeditions continue through maintenance?

>> No.11924858

>>11924852
No, they end abruptly when the maintenance stops.

>> No.11924861

>>11924852
And you will lose any ships you've sent out, I don't know who removed this from the Wikia

>> No.11924862

>>11924861
great bait mate

>> No.11924865

>>11924772
Iku's line is really romantic if you think about it.

>> No.11924884

>>11924670
Wait, does she outright reject you? Not even the slightest hint of affection for the Admiral?

>> No.11924889

>>11924865
what does she say?

>> No.11924890

>>11924884
>私の心は…お姉様にっ!
Forcing someone to marry you for political gain.
Disgusting.

>> No.11924894

>>11924889
She want to dive with you

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Damage report. 180 tries with Kaga Kai using 20/20/250/250 recipe, which reduced my 75k bauxite to 30k.

3x Reppu 3x T-14 3x T-32 2 xT-33

With this, I can start LSC in a short weeks.

>> No.11924902

Can someone tell me how much time left till maintenance,please?

>> No.11924904

>>11924900
Can you please stop shitting up the threads burgerclap? We're going to need image space for the patch tomorrow.

>> No.11924905

>>11924890
Well.
I can't force her into something she doesn't want. Guess I'll get her to 99 then watch her live a happy life with Kongou from the shadows.

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>>11924904
Try to have a relevant retort next time. You're not 12 anymore, aren't you?

>> No.11924909

>>11924905
>司令のご好意は有難いです…で、でも…私の心は…お姉様にっ! え? そういう話じゃないの!? あ…あぁ…そう? は、恥ずかしい~…!
The funny part of Hiei line is, they arent really talking about marriage(temp) system.

>> No.11924910

>>11924904
>whining about space on a board that has infinite space for new topics

yes, the greentext is deliberate
Gonna give you something to whine about

>> No.11924911

>>11924900
I doubt you'll need those radars. Reppu is nice addition, though.

>> No.11924912

>>11924900
Reported to DMM for scripting.

>> No.11924914

>>11924911
I will certainly need it on events and got tired of Isuzu's radar. Also, I have 7 Reppu at the moment, and it might come in handy.

>> No.11924928

>>11924909
Then what are they talking about?

>> No.11924940

>>11924902
1.5 hr

>> No.11924944
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Here's a question for you, /jp/:

I just acquired a Type-32 Surface-Search Radar and I'm wondering what I should do with it. Immediately I thought this should replace the old Type-22 on Kongou but after taking a closer look at the bonuses it provides, I saw that it had more to offer than the C6N Myrt. The question is, should I replace the Myrts on Taihou with the Type-32 radar?

On paper, it seems that this would be a good idea. Am I, perhaps, missing something regarding the gameplay mechanics of reconnaissance aircraft? Or does what I see on paper translate into practice?

>> No.11924946

>>11924928
Hiei: Sorry my heart belongs to Kongou nee-sama
Kuso Teitoku: No no, I am not talking about marriage(temp)
Hiei: Ooohhh, it is not that kind of talk. This embarassssingg~.......
Proceed to talk the ring, sign the paper and get the futon from 4-3.
You tell me anon.

>> No.11924947

>>11924944
C6Ns prevents T-cross disadvantage, radars don't.

>> No.11924949

>>11924889
>>11924894
She gives you a wet suit and asks you in the most cute voice to never let go of her hand. Then, zabooom!

>> No.11924966

>>11924946
Can't be that she mistook it for friend/family/sibling love talk?

Like, he had to clarify he was 100% seriously in love with her and wanted to marry her.

>> No.11924968

>>11924947

I see, I certainly don't want my T crossed. Now that I think about it, I don't recall having this happen since adding reconnaissance squadrons to my carriers.

Thank you very much, Anonymous. I must admit I am glad to have a legitimate reason to keep them equipped other than just the aesthetics.

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>> No.11924971

>>11924678
Uh oh.

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>>11924940
>>11924940
Did you lie to me?

If so, I hope your flagship NTR's you with another admiral.

>> No.11924994

>>11924990
Never trust a gook

>> No.11924992

>>11924984
It begins.

>>11924946
>Sorry, my heart belongs to Kongou nee-sama
>No, "marriage" is just the provisional name, it's not actually marriage.
>Ooohhh, it is not that kind of talk. Embarassing...

>> No.11924995

>>11924990
Maintenance started at the usual time. Your fault for forgetting.

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So what do guys usually do during maintenance?

>> No.11924997

Fuck, I should have been paying attention to this thread while playing; I completely forgot about maintenance despite thinking about it earlier today.

Ended up with no long expeditions sent out and my fleet in the middle of a sortie; at least I had no backlog of ships needing repairs.

>> No.11925001

>>11925000
As a sub spamming ranker I masturbate anxiously while waiting for the maintenance to end...

>> No.11925003

>>11925000
Remember what life was like before kancolle when I wasn't tethered to some shitty browser game every waking moment.

>> No.11925004

>>11924946
>>11924992
I'm very confused what other kind of "marriage" is there?

>> No.11925006

>>11925004
"Marriage" is supposedly (wink wink) a placeholder name, meaning the real name is supposedly (wink wink) something else..

>> No.11925011

>>11925000
Spamming anarchy and start9

>> No.11925012

>>11925006
Theres a ring involved though, and papers.

What else could it be unless those are placeholders as well?

>> No.11925014

>>11925012
class ring and diploma

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>>11925000
Fap, pixiv and dota

>> No.11925018

>>11925015
Disgusting, I would never lick her feet.
Maybe suzuya but never takao

>> No.11925020

How do you spam short expeditions all day with 3 fleets while keeping everyone with +50 morale without losing your sanity?

>> No.11925025

>>11925020
answer 1: it's more interesting than work
answer 2: scripts
answer 3: you don't

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>>11925018

>> No.11925029

>>11925020
The payout from short expeditions isn't even worth sparkling in the first place.

>> No.11925027

>>11925020
sparkling for 20 and 40 min expeditions isn't worth it, by the time you finally sparkle up you probably could have gotten half an expedition done.

Just sparkle up for the long expeditions you set for the night

>> No.11925036

>>11925020
By paying attention to the timer. You always should take them out before their moral gets below 50 and replace with ships with 85 moral. It's a time-consuming rotation, but it works for me.

>> No.11925040 [DELETED] 

Looks like they started a bit early today. It just hit 10.30 JST but I got error catted way earlier and lost half of my daily alloted PvP experience.

>> No.11925041

>>11925040
...it just hit 11:30 JST

>> No.11925042

>>11925040
It's 11:30 JST now, anon.

>> No.11925076

Did they post an end time for the maintenance?

>> No.11925089

>>11925076
They just did:
メンテナンス状況:中間報告です。 「艦これ」全サーバ群ともメンテナンス&アップデート作業中です。これまでのところ、作業は順調に進捗しています。全工程完了は【17:00】を予定しています。完了予定が止むを得ず遅れてしまう場合は、なるべく事前にお知らせするように努めます。

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>>11925027
>>11925029
You should have a fourth fleet ready to rotate in while you sparkle one of your other fleets. There are gains to be had. These numbers are using the minimum number of ships possible, but gains generally go up as you use more sparkled ships.

Assuming it takes about 1 minute per node, so 6 minutes per ship to sparkle to full, you'd be spending 18 minutes every 4 hours for ex3, 24 minutes every 6 hours for ex2, and 24 minutes every 8 hours for ex6. You'd probably want to resparkle your secondary fleet about once per day, as well.

If you had nothing better to do, it's easily doable. Wouldn't do it myself, though.

>> No.11925170

Is there a new event starting after maintenance? Never played during an event so I'm not sure if it will be noob-friendly

>> No.11925194

>>11925170
Yeah, they're not announcing it on twitter weeks beforehand like they usually do, but a big event is definitely going to be added this maintenance.

>> No.11925196

>>11924786
So what? He finally got his Taihou after maybe 50+ attempts and wants to show that he's happy to finally get her? I fail to see the problem.
Now if he left Yamato and Musashi level 1 in the first two slots, THAT would be being an asshole.

>> No.11925198

>>11924900
Swap your girls around a bit and fondle them

I got around 3 reppus, 3 t32 1 t14 in 80 tries

>> No.11925199

>>11925194
That sucks for me then, maybe I can do well in the next event after it.

>> No.11925203

>>11925170
No, the next event won't start today. If you are new you should not worry about it. You will be able to clear the beginner-friendly parts, which do not require resource hoarding. People who are worried about the next event are worried about its harder parts, which will probably require anywhere between 10k and 50k resources/map.

>> No.11925240

>>11924648
>screenshots
Image limit got boosted to 300.

We should remove this from next thread onwards.

>> No.11925249

>>11924751
>>11924760
Try marrying her pre-Kai 2 form.

>> No.11925257

>>11925240
That doesn't mean that people want to see a cap of every craft. If it's a meaningful screenshot there's no longer any reason to hold back but the image limit was never a big deal.

>> No.11925268

>>11925257
>the image limit was never a big deal.
It was during events. But there's usually decent reasons to post during events.

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>>11924858
>>11924861
>>11924940

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>>11925270
What's wrong? Not amused by the epic /jp/ trolling?

>> No.11925293

>>11925249
Oh, pre-refit girls have different lines for marriage? Speaking of which Is there a translated list of all girl's lines yet?

>> No.11925303

>>11925292
People who weren't amused would ignore it.

>> No.11925307

>>11925303
People who weren't amused would probably have corrected them really.

>> No.11925316

>>11925314
Unless they finish early, yes.

>> No.11925314

2 and a half hour remained right?
I suck at figuring out these shit, so confirm please.

>> No.11925318

>>11925307
>People who weren't amused would probably have corrected them really.
See >>>11923735
Realize where are you right now in the presence of elitist teitoku jerks.

>> No.11925320

>>11925293
As far as I know, only Ooi and Ise class do. Kitakami doesn't seem to have a different line for some reason, I'm going to check for her line too.

Lines here http://pastebin.com/su1ZHmtX and on wiki. Translated independently so there're some differences, might want someone to check for errors.

>> No.11925342

01▼最新海域【#5-4】実装!
南方海域の最終海域マップ【#5-4「東京急行」】が実装/公開されます。かなり手強い敵艦隊の待ち受ける海域ですが、艦隊編成及び参加艦艇の装備によって能動的に大きく航路(及び会敵兵力)を変えることが可能なステージとなっています。お楽しみに!
5-4. "Tokyo Express"

>> No.11925353

>>11925320
Oh, thanks. This list is great. Odd that Ise and Hyuuga do but not the Mogamis though.

>> No.11925362

>>11925353
I think Mogami did have a different line before and after remodeling in the original video with the unimplemented lines.

Also, they completely changed Kongou's confession line.

>> No.11925368

>>11925342
Yes.
I knew having a bunch of lvl90s of destroyer will come in handy

>> No.11925371

>>11925342
>参加艦艇の装備

I'm assuming the it'd be radars? Or whatever "new equipment" they said will be implementing today?

I just hope it doesn't turn out you'd need turbines on everyone to get the optimal route.

>> No.11925375

02▼軽巡洋艦娘のさらなる【改装】の実装!
二水戦の旗艦を務め、夜戦において探照灯を照射して鬼神のような奮戦を魅せた軽巡【神通】のさらなる改装(改造)が可能になります。また、夜戦で特徴的な効果を発揮する「艦これ」初の装備アイテムが同時に実装されます…こちらもお楽しみに!

Time to open your Jintsuu farming, admirals.

>> No.11925379

>>11925320
I suggested this before, but Ooshio's line is not actually a reference to "the moon is beautiful tonight"
Also, her name doesn't actually specify spring tide, its just that the big tides tend to happen in the spring

>>11925375
Nope, because I already have her above 60 because we've known about this forever. Worst case I need to get her up 4 more levels. Special night battle item sounds cool.

>> No.11925378

>>11925375
Guess she'd have some sort of special searchlight?

>> No.11925380

>>11925379
Calling it, it'll be this month's reward. Suck it, scrubs.

>> No.11925384

>>11925380
Please no
I slaved away for ranking and don't want some shitty item I can farm from a CL

>> No.11925386

>>11925380
Good thing I am in this month top500 after coming out of LSC

>> No.11925395

>>11925362
What lines were they originally?

>>11925379
Neat, any other errors?

>> No.11925396

03▼商船改装空母【飛鷹】の新グラフィック実装!
サンフランシスコ航路を夢見た艦娘「飛鷹」、その改装後の【飛鷹改】に新グラフィックが実装されます。ダメージバージョンのグラフィックも、描きおろし実装です!「飛鷹」オーナーの提督方は、ぜひお楽しみに!

Suddenly Hiyou.

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>>11925396
FUCK, I wanted it to be Hyahaa-san.

>> No.11925407

>>11925395
Before, Kongou's line was some stuff about power of love and ends with her saying TEITOKU, FALL IN LOVE. Now it's just sleepy cockteasing.

>> No.11925409

>>11925396
They hinted that a few days ago.

>> No.11925413

>>11925395
I'm not looking through them all, I just noticed that and one other when someone posted them in /a/. And the other was already fixed (マシ being read as マジ)

The moon pun is actually just saying she's lucky.

>> No.11925415

>>11925396
Hime-sama CVL becomes more feminine.
I like it.

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>>11925415
We'll have to see. Kuro Kuro painted her pretty on his twitter, but we all know how inconsistent his artwork is.

>> No.11925421

>>11925407
For base Kongou and both her Kai and Kai 2 forms? Well shit.

>>11925413
Lucky you chanced on that error then, I guess.

>> No.11925425

04▼2種類の【新装備】アイテムの実装
2種類の新装備【探照灯】及び【ドラム缶(輸送用)】が新たに実装されました。「ドラム缶(輸送用)」は【任務】及び【開発】などで入手することが可能です。

>> No.11925427

>>11925425
Interesting. My bets on the engine are that it reduces expedition expenditure.

>> No.11925431

>>11925427
Or boosts the resource gain.

>> No.11925435

>>11925431

>boosts the resource gain

But we already have those.

>> No.11925439

>>11925435
You can equip these to destroyers and submarines, I think. Maruyu has one in her sprite.

>> No.11925441

>>11925427
>>11925431
Either way, since 5-4 is based on Tokyo Express it seems like you'll be forced to stack them on your DDs.

>> No.11925442

>>11925435
But it isn't one for DDs, CLs, etc

>> No.11925445

【新装備アイテム「探照灯」について 1/2】
新装備【探照灯】を装備した艦娘は、夜戦突入時に耐久力が2以上残っている場合、特殊スキル【探照灯照射】を実施します。これにより、
・味方艦隊の全艦艇の夜戦命中率up
・味方艦隊の全艦艇の夜戦カットイン攻撃率up…
(続きます)

Accuracy & cut-in chance up. That's delicious.

>> No.11925448

>>11925445
>…
... but whoever's holding it is going to get blown the fuck away.

>> No.11925449

>>11925427
ドラム缶 is steel drum can, not turbine or engines.
As this new map is based on 鼠輸送, it should be used by DDs and other expedition classes.
Naganami has her own episode about it.

>> No.11925452

>>11925445
I'm angry that I spent a bunch of resources beating 5-3 this last month.

>> No.11925454

>>11925452
Shouldn't beating 5-3 have been easy as hell last month thanks to Iona?

>> No.11925457

>>11925445
Well it's nice to have a bit of diversity in loadouts again. Ever since November it's been double attack on everyone above level 50.
Finally, I can equip torpedoes again.

>> No.11925459

>>11925445
【「探照灯」について 2/2】
探照灯照射によって…
・味方艦隊の全艦艇の夜戦命中率up
・味方艦隊の全艦艇の夜戦カットイン攻撃率up
・敵艦隊の夜戦カットイン攻撃の抑制
そして、史実ほどではありませんが…
・探照灯照射艦への敵攻撃指向率up
・探照灯照射艦の被弾率up

>・敵艦隊の夜戦カットイン攻撃の抑制
Holy shit, that's rigged.

>> No.11925460

【「探照灯」について 2/2】
探照灯照射によって…
・味方艦隊の全艦艇の夜戦命中率up
・味方艦隊の全艦艇の夜戦カットイン攻撃率up
・敵艦隊の夜戦カットイン攻撃の抑制
そして、史実ほどではありませんが…
・探照灯照射艦への敵攻撃指向率up
・探照灯照射艦の被弾率up

REDUCES ENEMY CUT-IN RATE? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

>> No.11925462

>>11925454
I beat it less than a week ago. Beating it with Iona would have been hard because I didn't have Hachi and had just gotten Iona and Goya so they weren't remodeled.

>> No.11925463

>>11925448
そして、史実ほどではありませんが… ・探照灯照射艦への敵攻撃指向率up ・探照灯照射艦の被弾率up
haha oh wow

Well it does "reduce" the amount of enemy cut-ins so I guess it won't be THAT bad. Just has to be careful of the BBs gibbing your Jintsu.

>> No.11925464

5-3 will be new 5-2.

>> No.11925467

>>11925462
You can't remodel Iona. And I don't see what Hachi and Goya has to do with it.

>> No.11925471

>>11925467
>And I don't see what Hachi and Goya has to do with it.
You don't see what having 2 extra cut ins has to do with it?

>> No.11925474

>>11925445
Should have been the Fall E4 reward.

>> No.11925475

>>11925471
I think he means you should accompany her with a surface fleet.

>> No.11925476

If they allow subs to equip searchlights I'm gonna be laughing my ass off.

>> No.11925478

m, are you here? Can you get new equipment cards right now?

>> No.11925482

>>11925445
>夜戦突入時に耐久力が2以上残っている場合
So entering night battle with stamina at 2 or greater gives a chance for the searchlight's effect to proc? I don't know what stamina is here but of course it's going to have some downsides.

>>11925476
According to m it can't.
>new item types 探照灯/Searchlight for DD/CL/CAV/AV/BB?/CA and 簡易輸送部材/Supply for DD/CL/CAV/AV/LHA

>> No.11925484

>>11925471
Who sub-cheeses 5-3? Running it with Iona+normal fleet had me done with 5-3 in 2 hours. I never even stepped foot in 5-3 prior to that.

>> No.11925486

>>11925448
What if everyone in the fleet is holding a searchlight because they farmed their Jintsuus?

Actually, does the effect even stack?

>> No.11925489

【新装備アイテム「ドラム缶(輸送用)」について 1/2】
新装備【ドラム缶(輸送用)】は、これを装備可能な鼠輸送型の【遠征】及び【出撃】で効果を発揮します。同タイプの【遠征】は、練度の高い水雷戦隊が多くのドラム缶(輸送用)を積載することで成功します。また…
(続きます)

Alright, this is confusing. New expedition & sortie, but not sure about what that drum gives.

>> No.11925490

>>11925482
It's health. They're just saying it doesnt have any effect when you're dead.

>> No.11925491

>>11925482
I think they're saying it won't activate if the character equipped with it has less than 2 HP.

>> No.11925492

>>11925482
I'm pretty sure it just means the lights go out when the HP hits one.

>> No.11925493
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>>11925484
5-3 is easy.
Finished it in a day. Just buckets and continue.
Got I401 to lvl31 that way.

>> No.11925498

>>11925467
>You can't remodel Iona.
I meant Shioi.

>>11925484
I ended up doing the last three kills with subs. Anyway, I used Iona to beat 3-4,4-3,4-4, and 5-1 and then decided I'd rather farm for Shoukaku with my remaining resources. Turns out later that all of those are a piece of cake compared to 5-3, but oh well.

>> No.11925501 [DELETED] 

>>11925489

Maybe reduces the amount of fuel/ammo used in expeditions?

>> No.11925504

【「ドラム缶(輸送用)」について 2/2】
また、新装備【ドラム缶(輸送用)】は、#5-4などの鼠輸送タイプの【出撃】において、多くの参加艦艇に装備することで航路が変化します。また、補給地点に到達した際、積載したドラム缶量に応じて得られる補給が上昇することがあります。

So, that drum is obligatory for 5-4?

>> No.11925503

>>11925493
How was the boss arrival rate with 6 subs? I went with a surface fleet because I was with family at the time of event so my playtime was limited.

>> No.11925506

>>11925503

It's either 20-25% compass rule.

>> No.11925509
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11925509

Please let there be a good bauxite node at 5-4
Please let there be a good bauxite node at 5-4
Please let there be a good bauxite node at 5-4

>> No.11925511

【「ドラム缶(輸送用)」について 2/2】
また、新装備【ドラム缶(輸送用)】は、#5-4などの鼠輸送タイプの【出撃】において、多くの参加艦艇に装備することで航路が変化します。また、補給地点に到達した際、積載したドラム缶量に応じて得られる補給が上昇することがあります。

If you equip enough drum-equipped ships in 5-4, the route changes. Apparently you'll hit a supply node, with the amount of supplies gained corresponding to the number of drums you brought.

>> No.11925512

>>11925489
Sounds like stacking it affects your route on 5-4, and increases amount of resource gained on resource nodes.

>> No.11925515

>>11925489
It just says drums will take part in success conditions.

>> No.11925520

>>11925509
Sure, but before that you have to go through 2 maelstrom.

>> No.11925522
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11925522

Looks the same to me.

>> No.11925526

>>11925520
>2 maelstrom.
I couldn't care less.If it is like, 200baux for 30/40.

>> No.11925530
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11925530

>>11925522

>> No.11925531

>>11925530
HOLE SHIT.

>> No.11925532
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11925532

Eh.

>> No.11925536

>>11925530
Remodeled version then I suppose only.

>> No.11925537

>>11925530
Well shit.

Now I'm even more mad it wasn't Junyou.

>> No.11925539

>>11925531
>>11925530
I was so amazed I made a typo. Seriously, that's a huge improvement.

>> No.11925541

>>11925532
>>11925530

They're looking really cute. I can't wait.

>> No.11925543

>>11925530
Ok, if Kuro Kuro can draw like that, what the fuck happened with Maruyu and Akitsumaru?

>> No.11925544

05▼一部艦娘の燃費の更新
・「金剛」型戦艦(改二)…燃料及び弾薬消費率down(上方修正)
・「大井改二」「北上改二」…弾薬消費率up(下方修正)
・「阿賀野」型軽巡…弾薬消費率down(上方修正)
・「阿賀野」型軽巡(改二)…燃料及び弾薬消費率down(上方修正)

Kongou-Kai2 resource consumption down.
Ooi & Kitakami Kai2 ammo up.
Agano-class ammo down
Agano-class Kai2 (wait, we have Kai2?) resource down.

>> No.11925545

>>11925543
Maruyu is adorable. I'll rape you.

>> No.11925546

>>11925544
They probably made a typo there with the kai2.
Or maybe they are hinting at a kai2?
Noshiro kai2 where?

>> No.11925547

>>11925543
Probably old designs that they just got around to adding.

>> No.11925554

>>11925546
>>11925549
They deleted & revised the tweet, it's their Kai version.

>> No.11925549

>>11925544
>「阿賀野」型軽巡(改二)

Huh?
Maybe they meant Naka? She does have somewhat higher consumption costs.

>> No.11925552

>>11925544
Best news I've heard all week.

>> No.11925553 [DELETED] 

>>11925546
Probably hibiki kaini

>> No.11925558

>>11925544
>「金剛」型戦艦(改二)…燃料及び弾薬消費率down(上方修正)
Both Kongou & Hiei-Kai2

>> No.11925560

>>11925544
Looks like a typo for Agano Kai 2. They corrected it in the next tweet.

>> No.11925565
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11925565

RJ's getting additional voices (no time reports) today, right?

>> No.11925566
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11925566

New quest for the barrels

Scrap 3 equipments

That was fast and easy surprisingly

>> No.11925567

>>11925558
That's the best news from this update so far. I'd be angry if my only option for cheap midway BB was my level 50ish haruna.

>> No.11925570

>>11925566
Is it repeatable or one time only?

>> No.11925572

>>11925567

What, too poor to sortie BBs you like?

>> No.11925573

>>11925570
Obviously one time only.

>> No.11925574

>>11925570
if that was repeatable, everyone could get infinite barrels very very fast

>> No.11925577

>>11925566
Are the servers already up?

>> No.11925582
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11925582

>>11925570
It gives 3 at a time, so go figure

>> No.11925583

06▼新BGMの投入
新BGM『二水戦の航跡』を新海域#5-4の戦闘海域に…
さらに『次発装填、再突入!』を同#5-4のボス艦隊戦、及び既存の第2~第4海域のボス艦隊戦に投入します。新BGMもお楽しみに!
New BGM for 5-4, as well 2nd & 4th area boss.

>> No.11925585

Kitakami and Ooi ammo usage is 75 now
20 more than before. thats quite steep.

>> No.11925589

>>11925577
Change your PC's clock to JST +900

>> No.11925590

>>11925449
Whenever Naganami referenced the oil drums I thought she was talking about her breasts.

>> No.11925593

>>11925585
Depending on how kongou resource are now it may be pretty much the downfall of our CLTs

>> No.11925595
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11925595

>>11925532
Aw yeah, hopefully we get a revamped Junyou some time soon, too.

>> No.11925599

>>11925572
The BB I like is Yamato, so yes.

>> No.11925597

>>11925593
But ammo is a joke, you can get a ton of it by doing nothing.

>> No.11925601

>>11925585
I think its 65

>> No.11925602

>>11925593
I am swimming in ammo and Kongous cannot shoot preemp torps so that's bullshit

>> No.11925617

>【零式艦戦62型(爆戦)】及び前述の【ドラム缶(輸送用)】の二装備が、新たに【開発】で入手可能となります。これらを入手するには、開発時の【旗艦】の艦娘選択が重要です。

OHHHHHH

>> No.11925618
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11925618

One quest is scrapping 3 equips, what's the other one?

>> No.11925620

07▼艦娘追加ボイスの実装!
【神通改】には「補給」「放置」ボイスを、そして【神通改二】には録りおろしの追加戦闘ボイスなどを実装です。さらに、軽空母【龍譲改】に「補給」「放置」ボイス、駆逐艦【敷波改】に「補給」「放置」「ケッコンカッコカリ母港専用ボイス」を追加実装です!

Jintsuu-Kai/Kai2 as well RJ-Kai voice lines added.

08▼【開発】可能装備アイテムの更新
【零式艦戦62型(爆戦)】及び前述の【ドラム缶(輸送用)】の二装備が、新たに【開発】で入手可能となります。これらを入手するには、開発時の【旗艦】の艦娘選択が重要です。

That multirole from Taihou & drum is craftable.

>> No.11925621

>>11925620
What multirole from taihou?

>> No.11925622

>>11925593
WAH THE SKY IS FALLING

They were rebalanced. Whether or not by enough is questionable. They are still absurdly powerful, still overall very cost efficient, still extremely useful. They're just slightly less ridiculously overpowered than before.

>> No.11925623

>>11925618
It says right in your image.

>> No.11925627

>>11925585
there is always kiso

>> No.11925630

>>11925623
Because I can read moon, you insufferable prick.

>> No.11925631

>>11925621
Fighter-Bomber

>> No.11925632

>>11925567
No Kirishima?

>> No.11925633
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11925633

Kiso dodged the bullets(metaphorically)

>> No.11925634

>>11925633
Why did they increase KitaOoi costs but leave Kiso like that?
Is this the power of the pirate king?

>> No.11925640

>>11925631
What is that supposed to mean?

>> No.11925635
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11925635

>>11925633

>> No.11925637

I see new expeditions
21:
2 hours 20 minutes - 1 furniture box
22:
3 hours - no item

now to wait for our japanese overlords to figure out a working combination
37:
2 hours 45 minutes - 1 furniture box

>> No.11925641

>>11925634
kiso can't 1shot BB due to her low torp stats

>> No.11925645

>>11925618
Probably weekly.
I've scrapped 10 weapons still not cleared yet, maybe 15 or 20.

>> No.11925646

>>11925631
Oh I didnt know that existed.
Is that worth it or should I stick to old holo planes?

>> No.11925649

>>11925645
I really hope they don't make you scrap them all individually to get the quest done faster.

>> No.11925651

>>11925646
useless
2 of them in 2 slots is less efficient than 1 reppu and 1 suisei 12A in 1 slot each

>> No.11925653

対潜水艦戦における【ソナー】装備の機能が僅かですが強化されます。【爆雷】装備との併用における対潜効果が、命中率だけでなく威力にも増幅されるようになります。
Holy fuck
Troll subs may be beatable now.

>> No.11925656

>>11925649
I always get more than 3 pages of equipment to scrap. Every single day.

>> No.11925659
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11925659

Jintsuu kai 2

>> No.11925657

>>11925656
The problem isn't in getting enough equips, it's that I would rather be able to select an entire half page at once rather than click, scrap, click, scrap

>> No.11925660
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11925660

>>11925649
30 it seems.

>> No.11925661

>>11925653
No. Please no.
Now I have to farm the goddamn type 3 depth charges
fuck. fuuuuuck.

>> No.11925663
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11925663

5-4 Boss node
from wiki

>> No.11925667

>>11925659

I really want to hear her lines. How are they?

>> No.11925670

>>11925663
easy. can I farm hatsukaze and uzuki?

>> No.11925668

>>11925663
Piss easy map, done with 4 subs.

>> No.11925669

11▼新家具「雛祭り」飾りの実装
新家具「雛祭り」飾り関係の家具を2種類更新実装しました。
「長門・陸奥の雛人形」…家具コイン長者にお贈りします。※家具職人不要
「雛人形豪華四段飾り」…職人の技が光ります。※要家具職人

New furniture, NagaMutsu dolls?

>> No.11925675

>>11925663
Wow, this looks easier than 5-3 and something you could easily farm with a sub fleet.

I hope it drops rares so we can just farm that all day.

>> No.11925673

The one that makes you scrap a lot gives you a single drum can. So probably the other one is 1 time, and this one is weekly.

>> No.11925676

>>11925659
Dame dame equipment

>> No.11925681

As much as I love my boats, I have grown tired of playing. Things are feeling pretty repetitive even with events every now and then. Hum, what to do..

>> No.11925678
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11925678

>>11925669
Buying immediately.

>> No.11925680

>>11925668
I don't think you can cheese the new map, you might need the drums so that you don't run out of supplies mid sortie

>> No.11925682
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11925682

>>11925669
>>11925678

It's really cute.

>> No.11925683

>>11925681
Commit suicide. Nobody will care anyways.

>> No.11925684

Welp, I did the new quest and got nothing, rip.

>> No.11925687

>>11925669
There's another one in the same style with subs, Yamato, Musashi, Sendai class and Akagi/Kaga.

>> No.11925690
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>>11925669
>>11925678
>>11925687

It's really cute.

>> No.11925688

help? please? i go to kancolle and get lottery screen?

>> No.11925691

>>11925669
Yeah, they're hina dolls with Nagato as the emperor and Mutsu as the empress. 20k coins, no furniture fairy.

There's also a full set of hina dolls, this one takes a furniture fairy. Musashi and Yamato as emperor/empress, Sendai/Naka/Jintsu as the court ladies, the submarines as court musicians, Akagi/Kaga as ministers.

>> No.11925694

>>11925690
How do you hide your flagship?

>> No.11925698
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11925698

Unfortunately this doesn't give you ammo but right now Agano gets free refills.

>> No.11925695

>>11925691
But maruyu..

>> No.11925699

>>11925695
A SHIT. SHIIIIIT.

>> No.11925701

>>11925684
Yeah, same here. I scrapped 3 equips, got the steel, and then a blank square appeared. I checked my equipment inventory and I didn't get anything. I don't have the new weekly scrap either.

>> No.11925704

>>11925691
>Nagato as the emperor and Mutsu as the empress

This shipping. So it is official now?

>> No.11925707

Someone with Kongou in my PVP has a searchlight. It appears to do a little animation during night battles.

>> No.11925711
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11925711

Something seems to be off.

>> No.11925716

OHHHH CRAP, I DIDN'T BUY KONGOU TEA SET!!! I'VE FAILED AS A TEITOKU.

>> No.11925718

>>11925711
Holy

>> No.11925720

>>11925680
What? I've cleared it with 4 subs, I have no idea what you're talking about.

>> No.11925721

>>11925711
Nothing wrong with it, Kongou is just channeling her inner destroyer. You know how desperate old hags can get when it comes to imitating the young.

>> No.11925722

>>11925694
Go into furniture changing interface, hide interface

>> No.11925723

>>11925711
Nope, new fuel/ammo consumption is 100/130 for kongou-class kai nis

>> No.11925725

So if 5-4 is a preview of midway, does that mean we'll be able to do the whole thing with subs?

>> No.11925726

>>11925701

I cleared my cache and got them, although I don't have the second quest.

>> No.11925727
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11925727

>>11925711
After 2nd sortie on 1-1 first node. Why is the fuel/ammo consumption so random?

>> No.11925730

>>11925725
nothing official ever said 5-4 is preview of Midway

>> No.11925732

>>11925725
Yes. The Japanese undertook Tokyo Express missions in order to prepare for the occupation of Midway.

>> No.11925734

>>11925690
Goya is playing a torpedo flute.

Confirmed for lewdest submarine.

>> No.11925737

>>11925727
Because read the twitter.

>> No.11925740 [DELETED] 

>>11925737
Pretty sure the twitter doesn't explain why three bars ammo costs 2.66x as much as two bars ammo, you fucking whore.

>> No.11925741

>>11925690

Is Sendai just sitting down? That's really cute, since she's the only one who isn't kneeling.

>> No.11925742

>>11925737
My bad, the twitter feed broke for me so I did not notice it.

>> No.11925744

Level 60 for jintsuu huh

Argh, another trip to 4-3 again

>> No.11925747

>>11925740
The twitter mentioned that the consumptions will be corrected after your first sortie.

>> No.11925748

>>11925726
Thanks for the tip. Looks like we have the same exact problem because I'm still missing the weekly too.

>> No.11925754
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11925754

Oh my

>> No.11925756

So, any catch in 5-4? Is it the new 5-2?

>> No.11925759

>>11925754
I love butts. Based KuuroKuro

>> No.11925760

>>11925756
Got Mr. Handsome in boss node and RJ from the two runs I had so far with S rank from subs.

>> No.11925761

>>11925754
Is this some sort of CVL mating ritual? Is she presenting herself?

>> No.11925766
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11925766

>>11925690
Cute. This is how a nip room should look like.

>> No.11925768

>>11925756
It would make sense for 5-4 to drop Iku.

>> No.11925769

>>11925766
Where on earth did you get that futon furniture?

>> No.11925771

Seems like 5-4 could be amazing exp. 1500 for flagship.

>> No.11925772

Is it too much to ask for Uzuki to drop there?

>> No.11925773

>>11925769
You get it from a quest after you marry a ship.

>> No.11925774

Holy shit, Hiyou is really cute.
RIP Zuihou and RJ, you wont be missed.

>> No.11925779

>>11925774
Until RJ gets her own new sprite.

Kuro has mastered the secret art of ship girl drawing now.

>> No.11925782

>>11925634
Kiso is ironically still the worst CLT

>> No.11925784

Any news as to what level Hiyou needs to be to get Kai 2?

Also waiting on my server to come back up while I wish to work on KCV is suffering.

>> No.11925786

I hope I can finish up 5-3 soon. I was taking it easy because there was no rush, but with 5-4 upon us I spent 150 buckets for two boss kills in the last two days. Only one more to go but god knows how many more buckets that might take.

>> No.11925788

>>11925784
Hiyou is just new kai art, not kai 2

>> No.11925790

>>11925784
Hiyou doesn't have Kai 2. It's just a Kai sprite update
Jintsu needs level 60

>> No.11925791

>>11925784
no Hiyou Kai 2. only Kai graphic changes.
Jintsuu Kai Ni is 60.

>> No.11925792

>>11925788
>>11925790
>>11925791
Oh really? Fuck yea.

>> No.11925793

>>11925754
Can't wait for revamped RJ

>> No.11925794

What's the drum for? reduce fuel consumption?

>> No.11925796
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11925796

>>11925792
Looks like >>11914106 was right after all. Just that whoever drew that map is a terrible artist.

>> No.11925797

Anyone find a ship combo that sends you on a route besides the straight one?

>> No.11925800

Zuikaku
Kumano
Kinugasa

From what I saw in futaba.

>> No.11925802

>本日のアップデートで実装された新海域「南方海域」最深部ステージ、#5-4【東京急行】では敵ボス艦隊の旗艦撃破で漸減可能な敵海域ゲージが存在しますが…こちらは自然回復は致しません。また、艦隊編成等によってかなり難易度は変化します…焦らず攻略に取り組んで頂ければと思います。

Well..

>> No.11925806
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11925806

It was nice having you expedition 35!

>> No.11925808

>>11925806
You forgot the boats

>> No.11925820
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11925820

>70 firepower
>98 torpedo
Poor Agano class

>> No.11925823

So what does those barrels do

>> No.11925825

>>11925823
Nothing. Trash them.

>> No.11925826
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11925826

>>11925820

What's that, guy who said the Aganos and Tenryuus were prettier?

Yeah, that's right. Suck it.

>> No.11925832

>>11925826
But they really are. The art style is off from the whole game and pretty ugly.

>> No.11925833

>>11925826
But they are prettier.

>> No.11925834

>>11925820
Naka needs a buff too.

>>11925825
Wo pls.

>> No.11925836

>>11925826
But all the other CLs are still prettier.
Hiyou's upgrade was better and she didnt get a kai2.

>> No.11925837

>>11925826
Uh... that looks pretty shit, dude. I love her new art in general, but that is not particularly good damaged art.

It's ok though, Jintsuu, Aganos, and Tenryuus can all be wonderful girls.

>> No.11925839

>>11925832
>>11925833

I can't hear the words coming out of your mouths with all that sucking you're doing.

>> No.11925842

>>11925839
Oh man you told me good now, time to rethink life.

>> No.11925847

Anyone crafted the taihou planes and the barrels yet

>> No.11925848

>>11925837

>Uh... that looks pretty shit, dude.

You're not suggesting Konishi does better damaged art, are you?

>> No.11925849

>>11925826
I agree about Agano

But not for the Tenryuu classes. Best CL

>> No.11925851

>>11925849
Tenryuus have off-looking eyes.

>> No.11925853

>>11925842

>time to rethink life.
>/jp/

I'd say that's a given, Anonymous.

>> No.11925859

Huh, put a searchlight on my Poi and she didn't really get targeted more than usual. Guess the percentage increase isn't much.

>> No.11925857

>>11925820
The pink dress with petal-like features really don't mesh well with her headband.

>> No.11925860

Has anyone done 5-4 with barrel-equipped destroyers x3?

>> No.11925861
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11925861

>>11925847
I haven't had the barrels yet.

>> No.11925862

>>11925832
>>11925833
>>11925836
>>11925837
Looks like people still disagree with you.
Jintsuu's kai2 is a improvement over her old art but the other CLs are still better, only good thing about her is the new item.

>> No.11925863

Read on twitter that you can get barrels with all 10 with a light cruiser.

>> No.11925866

>>11925863
Are the barrels 1 use only?

>> No.11925869

Finished (weekly?) scrapping quest and got another barrel.

>> No.11925870

>>11925848
Better than that? Absolutely. Best in the game? Not so much, though I think it's alright. Why?

>> No.11925871
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11925871

5-4 is a mixture of day/night battle
First node CL/DD - Easy
Second node night battle against 2TA BB - Easy with sub
Third node = 4-2 middle pre boss node - Easy
Boss node - Easy S rank

What do? Subcheese? Is there even a reason why we should actually bring normal fleet?

>> No.11925876
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11925876

>>11925860
3 barrels sent me the north route

>> No.11925879

>>11925871
You can get fucked over at the boss node and the preboss node can spawn a hime but yeah, looks like the best thing to do here is to farm the hell out of it with subs.

>> No.11925880

>>11925870

I guess you don't see the huge problems he has with proportions when it comes to the damaged art or maybe, just maybe, this is all subjective.

>> No.11925883

>>11925862

Four people being wrong at once? That's silly talk.

>> No.11925885

>>11925880
To each their own. It's not TERRIBLE art, and I absolutely fucking love Jintsuu's new (non damaged) art in general, I'm just not a fan of the proportions or art style of Jintsuu's new damaged art is all. She's still a wonderful girl and I am leveling mine up towards kai2 after seeing how her kai2 looks/dem stats.

>> No.11925887

>>11925826
I don't like her uniform but she looks great.

>> No.11925889

>>11925876
I equipped 3 barrels and got sent south to sub node. Did you have any slow ships? I had slow BB in first slot.

If this is a way to guarantee sub node it could be better than 5-1 for training destroyers.

>> No.11925892

>>11925889
They were all fast.

>> No.11925893

>>11925885

Exactly, I should apologize for being so obnoxious about it. I'm just so happy with what they've done with her that I had to poke a little fun at the guy saying there was no reason to be hyped about her.

>> No.11925895

>>11925863
Yep, confirming that you get barrels with minimum crafting with Kitakami.

>> No.11925897

>>11925889
From wikiwiki so far
2carrier -> north
3barrel -> south
none of the above middle

>> No.11925898

Does anyone know if the scrap equipment quest counts per equipment or per mass scrap?

>> No.11925899

>>11925895
Unremodelled Kitakami?

>> No.11925902

>>11925899
No, torpedo cruiser.

Though I think it should work for all classes that can equip it...

>> No.11925900

>>11925898
# of scrap
Scrap them 1by1.

>> No.11925901

>>11925897
Ok.

Also, seems south isn't always sub node, which is annoying. I guess we still don't know if the enemy depends on your composition though.

I guess I'll try 3 barrel and 2 carrier simul next next.

>> No.11925904

>>11925893
Sok, I might've been a bit harsh too. I'm happy for you being so happy about her though, and that they did her up well, I've always liked Naka/Jintsuu, especially Naka, so seeing them both get fantastic art reworks and really good kai2s is a good feeling.

>> No.11925908

>>11925900
Thanks a lot, good thing I asked.

>> No.11925910

Confirmed drop so far
5th cardiv
Mogami class CA

>> No.11925912

>>11925902
Seems to be a weekly too

>> No.11925915

>>11925910
Apparently Agano-class too.

>> No.11925916

>>11925901
Yep, sent north. So it's probably just 2 carriers = north overrides the 3 barrels = south.

>> No.11925917

>>11925910
Boss node? Or regular?

More common Suzuya and Kumano then.

>> No.11925921

>>11925917
Boss node of course.
Tons of people reporting cranes and bears in futaba. I got suzuya there myself.

>> No.11925924

Good thing I had the foresight not to scrap all my Type 3 depth charges.

>> No.11925926

>>11925915
Guess I need to finally get through world 5 then. Got sidetracked farming 3-2.

>> No.11925931

>>11925910
I got Uzuki from the node.

>> No.11925932

>>11925924
How does it works? Passive bonus for equipping both? I just look at the stats it is still +8 for type3 depth charge.

Apparently pyon drops in 5-4.

>> No.11925933

This map seems like christmas event again with the free rare ships, weren't we supposed to get a taste of hell?

>> No.11925934

Someone from wiki just mentioned that boss node dropped Iku for him. No proofs yet.

>> No.11925935

>>11925931
Great news, the other maps she dropped ad were shit.

>> No.11925939

So it is easier to go north, south or middle?

>> No.11925937

>>11925933
Don't let those evil devs sway your readiness.

>> No.11925938

>>11925932
10▼対潜戦【ソナー】装備の機能強化 対潜水艦戦における【ソナー】装備の機能が僅かですが強化されます。【爆雷】装備との併用における対潜効果が、命中率だけでなく威力にも増幅されるようになります。

Increase in power and hit rate for using depth charges and sonars in tandem.

>> No.11925941
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11925941

Kongou Kai2 apparently has lower resource consumption than a married Haruna Kai. Also Yahagi somehow only used 1 fuel/2ammo in a pvp sortie which included night battle.

>> No.11925942

Two aircraft carriers seems to set you north, with a Princess and a Demon.

>> No.11925948

>>11925945
60, apparently.

>> No.11925943

>>11925939
North seems pretty easy. Middle has night battle, but you do it with subs. South is shit.

>> No.11925944

>>11925941
It seems that the consumption will be corrected after sortieing once.

>> No.11925945

What level does Jintsuu Kai 2? 48 like Naka?

>> No.11925949

>>11925931
Yup, still no Hatsukaze.
Why did I farm for that Yahagi slut???
Sigh...

>> No.11925952

>>11925948
I saw a lower leveled one in PVP, I think it was 53

>> No.11925957

>>11925952
Mine is 56 and I can't remodel her.

>> No.11925958

Well shit, now I have to clear 5-1 to 5-3. What are the best fleets best used for clearing them other than subs?

>> No.11925955

>>11925945
60, Naka was only 48 because AKB48/ship code and the idol stuff.

>> No.11925956

>>11925944
Oh..that does seem to be the case.

>> No.11925962

Anyone know what Jintsuu K2's ASW caps out at?

>> No.11925964

>>11925949
So who have married their Hatsukaze?

I have no willpower to grind one.

>> No.11925966

Any report on ex21, ex22 and ex37 yet? Can you see what the requirement is from checking the swf?

>> No.11925967

>>11925958
The same thing you'd use for 3-4 and 4-4.

I'm serious.

I've been using the same thing for every major battle barring 3-2.

>> No.11925968

>>11925962
Is it that hard for you idiots to read a few posts in the thread.

>> No.11925969

>>11925938
mfw the only one that can do this properly is only Melon-chan

>> No.11925970

A handful of battles and bucket spamming and the boss is already down to slightly less than half.

This new map isn't terribly exciting but the music is nice.

>> No.11925971

>>11925958
Seconding this. Reading the wiki, it looks to me like...

5-1: 2CA 2DD 1BB 1BB/CV
5-2: 2CV 1CVL 1BB 2BB/CV
5-3: 2DD 3CLT 1CA

Am I on the right track here?

>> No.11925973

>>11925971
5-2: 2BB/CV -> 2CLT
5-3: All subs, about 25% to boss node
If you bring 2DD+normal fleet you will retreat half the time anyway.

>> No.11925974

Wow, what idiot said that 5-4 can be sub cheesed? the first node has three gold CLs.

>> No.11925977

>>11925968
Ctrl-F for ASW only gives that post you quoted, retard.

>> No.11925979

>>11925974
The gold CL is in vertical formation when I did it.
So it is still easy. Is there a chance for them to spawn in ring?

>> No.11925980

>>11925979
Imuya took a nice 15 damage, going straight to red. And this is a level 110 Imuya.

>> No.11925981

>>11925970
Agreed. Nothing particularly gimmicky aside from that one night fight where you should just apply the usual night battle SOP.

Haruna, 3 CLT, Kongou K2 and Hiei K2 got me to boss node with the fastest route 4 out of 5 times. Was turned back twice due to heavy damage. That is all.

>> No.11925982

>>11925980
That's because Imuya is just that shitty.

>> No.11925983

How do you unlock the second new quest (the scrap 30 equips one)?

>> No.11925985

>>11925970
Anyone has ripped off the BGM?

>> No.11925984

>>11925977
I didn't tell you to ctrl F, I told you to read the thread.

>> No.11925986

>>11925980
Imuya is shit. See >>11925871
Barely a scratch to I401. Besides the first node, went through all the other nodes without any damage and perfect S the boss node.

>> No.11925988

>>11925985
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22973052

>> No.11925989

>Hiyou gets new artwork
>Junyou doesn't
B-but drunken sis deserves a bit of spiffing-up too

>> No.11925991

>>11925989
She'll get a second remodel eventually.

>> No.11925992

>>11925754
This guy is all about ass. Nagara too. Well, Isuzu is the exception.

>> No.11925994

>>11925983
By clearing your cache

>> No.11925995

Has anyone reached the boss node via north route using a fast fleet? I've tried five times and I've been sent to the same nodes for both branches every time.

>> No.11925998
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11925998

>>11925992
His Isuzu is all about boobs.

(inb4 pic related)

>> No.11925999

>>11925995
I will try it.
Do you have the enemy composition? Need to know what fillers to go with.
1BB 2CV + fillers

>> No.11926001

sub cheese route pre-boss node has a gold cl, a gold DD and an elite DD in ring formation

>> No.11926002

>>11925995
The other thing to try would be all CV/CVL

But no, I always brought one slow ship and got sent through whirlpool. Done for today though.

>>11925999
You want three reppuu carriers (or CVL) with reppuu if you're gonna get air sup

>> No.11926005

Boss node with subs
Nobody bothers to hit the gold CL who then proceeds to rape Hachi
Boss, 2 gold BB plus elite DD alive at night. I got three subs able to fight. All do a cut-in. I kill everything but the boss.
This is 4-2 levels of bullshit.

>> No.11926007

I hope someone manages to make it to the resource node soon.

>> No.11926008

>>11926005
People think 4-2 is hard?

>> No.11926009

>>11925999
The first node are a mix of DDs and CLs. First branch I get sent south path and it avoids a battle.

Second node is either 3 elite CV, 1 southern demon, or 1 demon and princess. The rest are CLs/DDs.

Then I get sent east at the branch which results in another battle avoided.

>> No.11926010

>>11926008
4-2 isn't hard, it's just fucking stupid
Hit the gold CL? piss easy
don't hit it? 90% chance you're going home / empty handed

>> No.11926011

>>11926008
It's hard if I have to expend even a single bucket to S-rank the boss.

>> No.11926013

My mind isn;t ready for 5-4 yet, i always click on the wrong maps (i.e. those for grinding)

Guess i'm too tired to do so. Time to rest and try the new map tomorrow

>> No.11926014

>>11926001
Yeah it is exactly the same composition with 4-2 pre boss node and yet people still subcheese it.

>> No.11926015

>>11925995
once out of 4 runs with 2 CV 1 CVL 1 BB and 2 CLT, all fast.

>> No.11926016

>>11926010
Then don't do it with subs?

>> No.11926017

>>11926009
There is no yasen bullshit like in the middle route right? Do I need barrels?
Guess I will try the bread and butter 1BB 3CVL 2CLT

>> No.11926019

>>11926016
It's even worse with not-subs
Gold BB hits you? 90% chance you're going home
And bucketing a Nagato is much more expensive than bucketing a sub

>> No.11926020

>>11926017
Nope. Just have to worry about air supremacy and that's it.

>> No.11926021

>>11926019
I never have to bucket on 4-2 except after boss node. My ships do accumulate scratch damage though.

>> No.11926023
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>>11925992
I like the way he thinks.

>> No.11926024

>>11926019
The gold BB is only on the boss node. Well, it usually crits somebody but it's still easy to beat it.

>> No.11926028

>>11926021
What's your composition for 4-2? I use 2 CVLs but if I replace one with a CA, I won't get air superiority on node H.

>> No.11926029

>>11926024
>>11926021
you cretin's realize that I'm talking about 5-4 and not 4-2, right?

>> No.11926032

>>11926028
1 BB
1 CA
2 DD
2 CLT
Fuck air superiority. I just shoot their planes out of the sky.

>>11926029
Then you suck at following the conversation

>> No.11926038

>>11925971
>>11925973

For 5-1, is it better to take 2 CVs instead of 2 BBs for air sup?

>> No.11926034

>>11926023
Chitose has the best damaged ver. in the entire game. Prove me wrong.

>> No.11926036

>>11926029
Then why did you reply to a post talking about 4-2 as though you were talking about the same subject?

>> No.11926039

>>11926034
Weird slut face

>> No.11926040

5-4 is full of rares.
Got Shoukaku, Kumano, Mutsu and Naganami already.

>> No.11926041

>>11926040
Subs?

>> No.11926042

>>11926041
I-19

>> No.11926046
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11926046

>>11925995
First try with fast fleet using 5-2 bread and butter composition. Easy enough and got a shoukaku from boss.

>> No.11926047

>>11926032
>CLT

That's unfortunate, I really hate wasted XP.

>> No.11926048

>>11926042
What?
I meant whether you used subs or not.

>> No.11926049

>>11926048
I thought you're asking which subs drops at new map.

>> No.11926050

>>11926047
I'm sure two more CA would work just as well.

>> No.11926051

Just reached the boss using north route and fast fleet. I guess I was just unlucky with my first five tries. The pre-boss node has another princess that comes with a weak red sub.

>> No.11926054

>>11926051
Probably just random 50/50.
I think all subs fleet is 100% boss. Better stick with middle route if you want to farm the map.
And you can only get the fuel node with barrel equipped DD

>> No.11926066

>>11926050
They have neither the punch to deal with armored foes or the capability to do ASW though.

>> No.11926072 [DELETED] 
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11926072

No shit, troll sub again. Better treasure the first 5easy clear.

>> No.11926075

>>11926072
4 clears, anon.

>> No.11926078

>>11926072
How's the boss node after you cleared it?

>> No.11926085
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11926085

>>11926075
>>11926078
My mistake, that is 5-3.
No trollsub at 5-4.

>> No.11926086

>>11926072
>>11926075
>>11926078
That looks suspiciously like 5-3 to me.

>>11926085
Nice.

>> No.11926087

5-4 boss actually drops iku.

>> No.11926088

>>11926085
thanks for the correction, I was about to sortie with 2 ASW loaded CLTs.

>> No.11926094

No APIcalypse in today's maintenance too. Pretty good.

>> No.11926097
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11926097

Any confirmation yet on M(fuel node)?

>C→Gのルートを通った場合M?
>B→Fのルートを通った場合はN?
Anyone test wikiwiki theory yet? You have to go south to get sent to M? True?

>> No.11926100

This looks like a goldmine if you get an S rank.

>> No.11926102

>>11925977
See >>11925820

>> No.11926106
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11926106

How? Boats?

>> No.11926114

>>11926100
But does it drop Hatsukaze?

>> No.11926115

>>11926114
Nope.
Not a single report of Hatsukaze as of now but tons of Uzuki. Back to 3-4.

>> No.11926118

>>11926097
I went B F route with 4 DD (3 of them equipped with drumsn) and 2CLT and ended up missing the fuel node all 4 times. (Last time, I swapped out the DD without drum for a slow BB and missed fuel node again).
Time to hit the sack.

>> No.11926119

>>11926106
even at x1.5 and plus 4 boats that doesn't add up
That's over 2x the reward

>> No.11926121

>>11926118
It's probably 4 drums since they gave you 3 for the quest.

>> No.11926123

>>11926106
read the patchnotes

>> No.11926129 [DELETED] 

>>11926123
patchnotes don't fucking explain sudden increases in expedition gains

>> No.11926131

>>11926123
Fuck off Wikifag.

>> No.11926136

Just woke up, does Zuikaku drop in 5-4?

Should I buy the new centerpiece furniture with one of my two fairies?

>> No.11926137

>>11926136
She does

>> No.11926142

>>11926136
>Should I buy the new centerpiece furniture with one of my two fairies?

It's your fucking furniture fairy, it's your choice.

>> No.11926148

>>11926131
the official tweets are patchnotes

>> No.11926150

>>11926123
Thanks.
Didnt know they increased the gain for both ex35 and 36.
Goodbye Ex2.

>> No.11926152

>>11926150
Isn't it expedition 25 and 36?

>> No.11926153
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11926153

I swear I put a hammer on her (the rest except flagship all had hammer equipped).
5-4 temptation sure is scary.

>> No.11926158

Where should the oil barrels be? I just finished the scrap 3 equipment quest, got the GET screen after the steel reward, but it was invisible and I cant find the barrels in the equipment replacement menu.

>> No.11926163

>>11926158
Refresh your motherfucking cache you colossal retard, and do it after every update for fuck's sake.

>> No.11926165

>>11926158

Please tell me you cleared your cache.

>> No.11926166

>>11926163
>>11926165

I did after not being able to find it. Still not there.

>> No.11926167

>>11926166
sucks for you!

>> No.11926168

>>11926166
What are you using to play?

>> No.11926169

>>11926168
First logged in with API, then used chrome with cleared cache after.

>> No.11926170

>>11926169
Well an update for anyone who cares, tried with mozzila which I usually avoid because for some reason I get an error when logging in on DMM with it, cleared cache and they appeared.

>> No.11926175

>>11926167
So you first call him a retard you thought he didn't do everything right, then when it turns out he did you say this to cover your ass?

>> No.11926176

>>11926175
Thanks for sticking up for me anon, but there's always going to be assholes on the internet.

>> No.11926183

>>11926175
>>11926176
I'm not the dude that called him a retard, why would you make that assumption?

>> No.11926184
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11926184

No Hatsukaze and Nagato but it is a good map for rare destroyers and cranes.

>> No.11926185

>>11926183
Why would you be so mean?

>> No.11926189

>>11926150
Welp, time for do the 80 hour and 48 hour one, or doing 80 hour alone enough to unlocks it?

>> No.11926190

>>11926185
I'm not being mean, it really does suck for him...

>> No.11926191

>>11926189
80hour

I believe the 48hour is just for stuka and furniture fairy.

>> No.11926192

http://akankore.doorblog.jp/archives/36626643.html

more info on 5-4 map

>> No.11926195
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11926195

Is he implying that drum cans give you more resources?

>> No.11926199

this sucks, 2 more win perhaps and I could clear 5-3 but compass wouldn't send me there anymore after 8 tries.

>> No.11926200

>>11926195
No, ex35/36 got buffed.

>> No.11926203

>>11926199
Man up and use normal fleet.

>> No.11926204

>>11926200
Nevermind, I am blind

>> No.11926206

>>11926203
I use 6DD, that should be normal right?

>> No.11926207
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11926207

10/30/10/30 for multirole
All-10 for drum

imgur soon after those nips update the expedition guide.

>> No.11926208

>>11926200
this is one of the new expeditions

>> No.11926210

>>11926207
Drums only drop from all 10?

>> No.11926211

>>11926195
I can't even tell which expedition that is
90exp at great success would be 45 normal but there is no expedition that gives 45 exp normal
The only expeditions that give 90 exp default don't give any fuel whatsoever so something is very amiss here
Based on res plus box

>> No.11926214

>>11926210
No.

>> No.11926215

>>11926210
Apparently 10/10/11/10 also works. Maybe sonar or depth charge recipe can make it.

>> No.11926216

>>11926208
Yes, I noticed. Was too tired. Does the drum actually gets consumed after the run? Reward seems too to be a little bit too high for a 2:20 exped.

>> No.11926217

>>11926211
It is ex21
The 2:20 one
Time to update your script scripters.

>> No.11926218

>>11926211
it's 21, the new one that mentions those drums

>> No.11926219

>>11926211
It is expedition 21, it's name is there.

I'm not sure what the requirements and gains are on it right now but 2 hour 20 minutes is the duration and it seems to give a bucketload of resources

The white japanese letters are the new barrels, I'm going to equip some of the barrels on my expedition teams to see if it increases gains

>> No.11926222
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11926222

New updates' guide, brought to you by yours truly Murasame.

>> No.11926223

>>11926219
I tried using the drums on exp3, had no effect

>> No.11926224

>>11926210
There's no precedent where increasing the materials cost excludes an item that could be crafted with a cheaper recipe.

>> No.11926225

>>11926208
>>11926217

How many bars of fuel/ammo does it consume? It seems to be similar to expedition 5 except 5 also gives a bit of steel and bauxite, which add up in the long run.

>> No.11926229

Gains for expe 21 are

45EXP、燃料×320、弾薬×270、家具箱(小)×0,1

It seems really good right now

>> No.11926230

5-4 north route update.
All fast speed will skip the maelstorm while mix speed fleet will get sent to the maelstorm.

>> No.11926231

>>11926229
no bauxite? damn.

>> No.11926232

>>11926230
And all slow fleet will?

>> No.11926235

>>11926229
5, 9, and 21. The best expedition spam.

>> No.11926236

>>11926225
A little bit less ammo and more fuel when compared to ex.5 bar steel and bauxite. ex.5 still wins in total resources gained over time, but only very slightly.

>> No.11926237

>>11926232
Nobody tested it yet unless you bring the slow CVL. All CV/L are fast except them.

>> No.11926238

>>11926235
Enjoy your no bauxite.

>> No.11926240

>>11926236
I'm talking about the consumption.

>> No.11926242

The main query with expe 21 right now is the fact that it has the new equipment in the description, but apparently the equipped cans had no effect on the final resource gain

Could the equipment be a prerequisite? That would pretty much be a first for expeditions.

>> No.11926243

>>11926237
Just as well Hiyou Kai got a new sprite. It's almost as if they want us to test 5-4 with the Hiyou class CVLs.

>> No.11926245

>>11926217
2:20
320 270
1:30
200 200 20 20

amplified hats
2:20
480 405
1:30
300 300 30 30

per hour that's:
205~ 173~
vs
100 100 10 10

thats a lot of fuel per hour
compared, expedition 9 has 525 over 4 hours, which is 131,5 per hour

Need the exact requirement for 21 though and how much resupply is

do we have data for the other new expeditions?

>> No.11926246
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11926246

Middle route is definitely easier than north route.

>> No.11926247

Scrap 30 equipments quest requires the weekly submarine quest to be finished.

>> No.11926248

>>11926245
god, I've been awake for too long
ex5 is 200 per hour, not 100

>> No.11926249

What're the fleet requirements for expedition 21 anyways? Can't find them with ctrl+f or on wiki

>> No.11926250

>>11926242
>Could the equipment be a prerequisite? That would pretty much be a first for expeditions.
Pretty much they're testing the water to have equipment, not ship, as requirement.
Time to get your Zeros for Midway.

>> No.11926251

>>11926250
You mean Taihou with reppus and ryuuseis

And 5cardiv

>> No.11926252

>>11926251
>Midway
>Taihou
>5cardiv
wat

>> No.11926253

>>11926245
Speculation is 1CL 4DD or 2CL 4DD or 3ship with barrel

>> No.11926254

>>11926252
That is the damn point

5cardiv missed it due to horrible timing

Taihou wasn't even completed yet and it flat out is IJN's most advanced CV during the entire period

>> No.11926255

>>11926247
So is it weekly? or after we clear the submarine weekly, the quest still there until we clear it?

>> No.11926260

>>11926255
It appears after you complete the weekly submarine quest, so I guess it should be a weekly.

>> No.11926262

>>11926254
Had the cranes made it to Midway, could they have changed the tide of the war?

>> No.11926263

Has anyone the updated gains from ex35 and 36?
gonna check the jp wiki but asking preemptively anyway

>> No.11926264

>>11926252
They lost it because of 1st/2nd cardiv incompetent.
History would be changed if they had Taihou and 5th cardiv. We are changing history not reenacting the sinking of akagi kaga and the dragon sisters.

>> No.11926266

>>11926263
ex36
Fuel 300 -> 420
Steel/Bauxite 150 -> 175

>> No.11926269

>>11926263
It is Ex25 通商破壊作戦 and Ex36 水上機基地建設. Wiki made a mistake on the update.

>> No.11926272

>>11926260
Another useless weekly. Thought I could get more dev kits but nope, just some useless new gimmicky equipment.

>> No.11926273

>>11926262
They would have massively outgunned the opposition at least

IJN positions were compromised due to logistic fuckups. More firepower would have helped out, with how tactically retarded the commanders were

>> No.11926277

>>11926264
We're not changing history either. We're fighting ghosts of the past.

>> No.11926278

I am doubting the sonar+depth charge bonus.
Just sent a bunch of CL and DD to 5-1.
Shimakaze with 2sonar has outgun all my other CL/DD that has sonar+depth for 2sortie in a row now. Both time with her killing the flagship.

>> No.11926281

>>11926262
Even if the IJN would have won at Midway, they still wouldn't have a chance to win the war.

>>11926278
do you have the stonger depth charges?

>> No.11926283

So how does searchlight affect night battle? Is it good, or just a placebo effect?

>> No.11926284

ex35 is practically worthless now
36 gives a lot of fuel, almost as much steel and baux and the 1 devkit every 7 hours is not that important
now I need 4 daihatsu
fuck

>> No.11926285

>>11926281
>they still wouldn't have a chance to win the war.
No one change would have let them win the war. But that plus a few other changes might have.

>>11926277
I like this interpretation.

>> No.11926286
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11926286

>>11926281
Yes using the type3 depth.
I dont see any significant difference between yuugumo and makigumo at all. Gotta wait for the nips to come up with a damage formula or maybe it is just the devs trolling.

>> No.11926291

>>11926284
You can probably only do Ex36 twice a day. You have to fit in something short in between while you can do 2xEx35 and 1xEx36 in day.

>> No.11926293

>>11926291
what are you talking about? The power of scripts is with me

>> No.11926294

>>11926286
It will make the test better if you used ships with similar ASW stats. Shimakaze and Jintsu don't need to be there.

>> No.11926295

>>11926294
He said that he was comparing the output of Yuugumo and Makigumo. The other two are probably there because he wants A ranks.

>> No.11926296

>>11926285
those few other changes would have to include some major changess like the rest of the axis not losing in europe, the US production going significantly down for some reason, and maybe still some other things.

>>11926293
scripts can even extend the number of hours a day has.

>> No.11926297

>>11926296
script simply run ex36 non-stop which is a higher profit than switching something in
Because, you see, the X hours you switch something else in, I will have ex36 running. These things work on a hourly rate after all

>> No.11926301

>>11926296
Japan would never win a war to the United States to the bitter end. They only needed to take and hold enough of Southeast Asia to supply their war machine. They could never make the United States bend their knees, but they had a chance of coming to a negotiated settlement that didn't involve Japan losing everything.

Even domestically, though, there needed to be a lot of changes in the way the Army and Navy General Staff were run because they crippled themselves in a lot of ways.

>> No.11926302

Just got a Uzuki from 5-4 Rank A sub cheese.

>> No.11926305

Ugh, I hit 250 crafts attempting hachi. Is my luck pure shit or is this meant to happen?

>> No.11926306

>>11926302
Nice, I want to get her soon too

>> No.11926308

>>11926295
Makes more sense than what he said initially: >>11926278

>> No.11926314
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11926314

No shit, you guys might be right on needing 4barrel to go to fuel node. 3barrels didnt push me to that node. The other possibility is NO CLT route only.
Middle route is definitely easier though, didnt even need to bring in heavyweight ships to beat it.

>> No.11926315

>>11926306
Sure you didn't get the average of a Hachi every 140 crafts, but you're not that unlucky, only 5/6 are doing better than you.

I'm the unluckiest 1/2000 and that's in LSC were losses are amplified. 800k+ resources and I'm yet to get a rare ship; now please contain your bitching.

>> No.11926317

>>11926297
by an hourly rate, ex36 isn't that great.

>> No.11926318

>>11926315
>>11926305
Was meant for this

>> No.11926320

>>11926315
wat.

>> No.11926322

>>11926296
Axis wouldn't have lost in Europe this badly had Hitler not obliterated Britain before turning on the USSR (and maybe get Japan to attack USSR too). He ended up having to fight on two fronts and overstretching his troops.

>>11926301
That's true, too.

>> No.11926325

>>11926297
If your scripts can handle sparkling and equipping seiran/boat then it is all good.
If you want to script for long expedition might as well just do ex2, ex3, ex5 and ex6.

>> No.11926327

>>11926317
add all the hours of the autism-duration expeditions you need for the same gain together and then look at the total resupply values and it's suddenly pretty great again

>> No.11926330

>>11926097
You need 4 drums to hit M, tested over 30 times, hits M every single time.

>> No.11926338
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11926338

Guy brought 4drums on melon-chan.
Seems like it is true.

>> No.11926346

So I'm thinking of getting 3 of each agano class kai-ing them and never sortieng them so they keep the 0 costs glitch.

Thoughts?

>> No.11926349

What's the non-cheesy composition for 5-3?

>> No.11926350

>>11926346
I did consider this for a while, but then I remembered I tried to craft yahagi 10 times with min and 20 devs and 30 times with 1 dev, the odds are too low to actually begin profiting from it within the year, not to mention it could be patched out of the blue.

>> No.11926351

Man, I really love searchlight and south route combo on 5-4.

>> No.11926352

>>11926346
Way to waste 9slots of your precious space to keep 9CL that you wont sortie.

>> No.11926355

>>11926351
is it detachable or permanently on jintsu?

>> No.11926358

>>11926352
I already have like 10 slots of DDs I wont sortie, not to mention melon, tenryuu,naka and tatsuta.

>> No.11926361

>>11926355
Devs mentioned on twitter that some ships besides CLs can use it.

>> No.11926362

>>11926349
6DD and pray rng you reach boss node, 14 tries I get to boss node 3 times so far.. 2 more win and I might be done, doing it right now

>> No.11926364

Only been playing for a couple days and I feel like dropping $30 on it just to have more repair slots. So pricey.

>> No.11926366

>>11926364
>repair slots.
Buy more ship space, you wont need repair docks when you are swimming in buckets.

>> No.11926368

>>11926338
2BB because sub node.
2CV/L for the north node
Melon for drums
Why CA?
Is she a requirement too?

>> No.11926374

>>11926368
2CV/L + all fast +4drums.
You will hit that node everytime. Mixed speed will send you to the maelstorm.

I still think the middle route is easier though.

>> No.11926376

>>11926364
If you're going to buy them, buy them now, very useful at the start

>> No.11926381

This map pretty much change ranking by its 100% boss route sub cheese

>> No.11926387

>>11926381
you have to get past 3 flag CL ( or 1 flag + 2 elite ) in the first node and then another flag CL pre-boss and two DD in ring formation
70% of the time you're gonna retreat due to heavy damage

>> No.11926390

>>11926387
Yeah it's pretty annoying.

>> No.11926399

sub run on 5-4:
Iku down to orange in first node
Goya takes 9 damage from a gold DD in the next node
pre-boss they killed all CL/DD in opening phase
Boss:
they kill the gold cl but both DD live. shioi goes to red with one hit. Imuya goes red the next hit. Iku red the third hit. Goya orange fourth hit.
D rank
Hachi and Goya do pointless cut-ins that don't do anything
4 buckets, complete fucking waste of time

>> No.11926398

>>11926374
Sorry for blogging

YES
Finally, fuckin month.I was on that fuckin 4-4 for a month.

>> No.11926403
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11926403

>>11926398
And I'm also retarded

>> No.11926405

>>11926403
Good work anon

>> No.11926411

>>11926398
Your blogging wouldn't be so cancerous if you could type like a proper human.

>> No.11926415

So uh is there a trick to not getting fucking wrecked on 5-3? All night battle was a cool gimmick and all at first, but the amount of enemy cutins is... unnerving, as is the damage they do. Can't really push on to other nodes with girls in red, and there doesn't really seem to be much I can do to stop it, outside of maybe getting that searchlight thing Jintsuu k2 apparently gives?

>> No.11926416

>>11926415
All subs.

>> No.11926424

Next run:
first node: Hachi takes 15 damage
second node: nothing in particular
pre-boss: T cross, gold CL is orange'd, still hits Iku for 11 damage, one of the surviving DD hits Hachi into red
retreat

that's 4 runs, 2 of which got to the boss, of which one ended in D rank

where is that colossal faggot that was bragging how easy this is to sub cheese?

>> No.11926426

These drum crafting really waste my devmat..

Which one is the weekly quest to scrap many, again?

>> No.11926428

5-4-F pretty much made 3-2-A obsolete. As far as I can see, it never spawn CA.

>> No.11926437

Where do you find ammo and fuel cost for each ship? The only place I see it is the max stats page on wiki and I'm guessing Kai's are different than normal ones

>> No.11926444

Run 5:
3 gold CLs first node, killed bottom 4 ships, both gold CL missed
second node: nothing could attack
pre-boss: killed gold CL and 1 DD, the other DD missed
Boss: gold CL and 1 DD died in opening. Iku orange first hit, Shioi takes 6 damage second hit
night battle: 4 subs target the sole surviving gold BB beside the boss, ALL FOUR MISS.
Goya hits the boss. for 32 damage.
A rank.
No boss kill.

I'm going to kill that faggot who was bragging earlier.

>> No.11926456

>>11926330
Nope.
What is going on here, I got sent SE instead of M.
Is it random with a small chance to M with total 4drums or 4ship with drum?

>> No.11926461
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11926461

Silly japs.

>> No.11926463

>>11926428
The main appeal of 3-2A is the guaranteed node

5-4F isn't.

>> No.11926467

>>11926456
To avoid night battle and subs I run the top route, where 4 drums take me to M 100%...

>> No.11926471

>>11926463
But it is with the correct composition

>> No.11926473

Curse that yellow battleship for critting my Kaga to red.

And it's one node before the boss too..

>> No.11926474

>>11926463
Just bring <2 carrier >1 CLT
Guarantee 5-4-F

>> No.11926476

This search light thing is actually pretty neat. I can feel my sponge getting attack more in night battle. This makes the bulge useful now.

>> No.11926477

>>11926474
That's the problem. My Kitakami and Ooi is already 99 and I don't feel like bringing them anymore.

>> No.11926483

>>11926476
is the bit more armor really that useful?

>> No.11926487

>>11926461
If not for the nips testing out the expedition fleet requirements and getting a shitload of failures along the way, we wouldn't know too.

So we should be praising them instead.

>> No.11926491
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11926491

>>11926467
Welp. Poor Yuubari is going to end up being the barrels carrier. Really cant bring DD along going the north route. One thing for sure, this map is easier to farm compare to 5-2.

>> No.11926497

I crafted and never get the 4th barrel..

Never thought RNG can troll me this bad

>> No.11926500

>>11926497
Dude, just scrap 15equipment to get the 4th.

>> No.11926502

Tried 2-1 a couple times and it seems like I should stop using CL/DDs? usually one hit and they're in red which means it's back to base for me.

>> No.11926505

>>11926500
How to unlock this quest?

>> No.11926508

>>11926505
By reading the thread.

>> No.11926510

>>11926491
The north route is too easy. I can see them buffing it soon, just they did for 5-2.

>> No.11926513

>>11926508
That's the problem. That weekly quest will not appear even though I cleared the 3 barrel quest.

>> No.11926514
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11926514

Ex37 might be superior to Ex2 because of the extra steel. It also make more sense to sparkle for a 3hours expedition.

>> No.11926515

>>11926514
The point of ex2 is buckets

>> No.11926517

>>11926510
No shit. I am going to farm the fuck out of it this week for Uzuki before the next maintenance. I think it is the only map where you can hit the boss node on the 3rd node.

>> No.11926522

>>11926513
Weekly sink 15 subs quest.

>> No.11926523

>>11926514
You mean Ex3 right?

>> No.11926527

Anyone got the latest LSC report? Would you be kind enough to upload it onto imgur and link to it? Thanks.

>> No.11926528

>>11926522
That's really troublesome. Not to mention you need to sink CVLs first before unlocking the SS quest.

>> No.11926535

>>11926528
and transport ships before unlocking the CV quest

>> No.11926547

>>11926491
You can even ignore the fast fleet requirement because fuel nodes don't do much, and you gain fuel back from the fuel node anyway.

>> No.11926555
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11926555

>>11926403
>>11926398
Fuckin RNG
I got another Shokaku

How much time till North route getting nerfed?

>> No.11926556

>>11926517
They just need to make line ahead one of the possible boss node compositions and it will get a lot harder.

>> No.11926559

>>11926555
Fuckin RNG, where the hell is my 4th barrel.

>> No.11926560

>>11926547
Nagato and Yamato class is kind of overkill. Haruna is good enough to be honest.
Might try bringing in 2CAV to share the barrel load so that my Yuubari can actually equipped guns. Good thing I leveled both Suzuya and Kumano. They can finally be useful!!

>> No.11926562

>>11926560
I'm referring to Kaga

>> No.11926563

>>11926559
Isn't doing all of the quests net you 4 barrels?

>> No.11926565

>>11926559
What RNG are you talking about? You can get a 4th barrel from a quest.

>> No.11926566

>>11926563
I can't unlock the 4th barrel quest for some reason.

>> No.11926571
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11926571

>>11926562
Kaga is fast. Even Yuubari is considered fast contrary to her doujinshi portrayal.
The only slowpoke is this qt here.

>> No.11926574

Now I'm scared for this month ranking. The last day rush will be huge.

>> No.11926578

>>11926566

read up dude, finish 15 sub quest

>> No.11926583

>>11926571
Oh... I've always thought Kaga and Akagi are slow.

>> No.11926584
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11926584

>>11926555
hystericallaughter.jpg

>> No.11926586

>>11926555
Never.
It is trap to make the veteran Teitoku waste bauxite going north.

>> No.11926609

>>11926528
>>11926535
Both are piss easy with 4 sub fleet.

>> No.11926613

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22975389

Update voices.

>> No.11926615
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11926615

>> No.11926618

5-4 drop rate is abnormally high. Don't see much blue/common at all. From my 5run.
Yayoi
Shoukaku
Yuubari
Hiei
Haruna

>> No.11926620

>>11926571
Yuubari's RL speed was 35.5 knots, which were actually faster than the "fast" Kongou class BBs by around 5 knots. Shimakaze did 40.9 knots, which isn't that much faster than Yuubari.

>> No.11926622

>>11926618
boss node or any?

>> No.11926623

>>11926586
In short, they'll wait till after Midway to buff the north route?

>> No.11926624

>>11926618
Out of my 2 runs I got 2 Junyou.

>> No.11926627

>>11926622
Boss S rank.
I got Kinugasa from 5-4-F though.
Going north with 4barrel is the way to go. Middle is just as easy but I cant get to M node even with 4barrels. Might have to wait for nips to find the right composition for middle route.

>> No.11926633

>>11926618
I got 3 Hyahahs in a row...

>> No.11926634

>>11926618
Definitely, in 13 S ranks I got Agano, Makigumo, Yuubari, Yayoi, Goya, Kumano, Zuikaku and Uzuki. Was only aiming for pyon here.

>> No.11926638

>>11926627
Middle route always go to the CV node, you have to go south route to go to the fuel node

>> No.11926639

>>11926615
What's this do?

>> No.11926640

1 more and I'm done of 5-3, 20min repair time left.

>> No.11926643

>>11926640
I envy you. Still two two successful 5-3 runs left to go, SOMEONE always gets cutin'd to red within the first two nodes. Usually one of the useless DD-chans. Evasion is a lie.

>> No.11926644

>>11926638
Is the wiki right about this?
It said less than 1carrier/clt and you will go C.
True? Do you need 3barrels to get sent there?

>> No.11926653

I dont get Expedition 22.
Fleet exercise
3hours
10ammo
But only 45exp?? Did the dev forgot an extra 0 for the experience?

>> No.11926655

>>11926643
What's your DDs' levels?

>> No.11926656
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>>11926643
I use 6DD sparkled double attack setup and each has sonar/depth charge..

>> No.11926657

>>11926653
You expect expeditions to give a lot of experience? Expedition 9 only gives 60 EXP for 4 hours.

>> No.11926662

>>11926508
You should have been able to tell by his terrible attempt at English that he's wiki scum.

>> No.11926665

>>11926657
No. That expedition is a pure experience expedition. I think it has something to do with the flagship LVL. From the comment section, some people report 2.4k exp gain and some report 1.2k exp gain. No idea why wikiwiki said it only gives 45exp.

>> No.11926667

>>11926655
70s. 4CA 2DD fleet, so far it's served me well on 5-3... when girls aren't getting consistently oneshot. Yuudachi especially seems to love eating everything to the face. Might just slap a damecon on her.

>>11926656
What formation for boss? I found the sub pretty hard to kill even on line abreast, and that rapes offensive so it's hard to kill much of anything during day battle, and that just makes night battle a crapshoot on whether or not anyone will even target transport flagshit.

>> No.11926669

>>11926634
Who's pyon? I assume uzuki?

>> No.11926676

>>11926669
Yes, she says it all the time

>> No.11926682

>>11926656
Why not cut-in?

>>11926665
>pure experience expedition
Well shit.

>>11926667
Unfortunately, dodge doesn't actually help much against cut-ins.

>What formation for boss?
Not him but I assume ring formation.

>> No.11926689

>>11926665
Because some of these expeditions give you more exps than displayed numbers.
I think wikiwiki decided to keep these exps as they are, in case dev will correct them.

http://kancolle.doorblog.jp/archives/33813134.html

>> No.11926690

>>11926667
yukikaze actually has 2 sonar but she's not the one sinking the stupid sub.
I hope none of them messed up on this last one.

double line on the first 2 node and line abreast during boss battle.

>>11926682
I tried that torp setup too but none of these 6 want to do it at all.

>> No.11926696

>>11926669
It's rabbit-speak.

>> No.11926698

Can 21 be done with 1 CL 5 DD?

>> No.11926699

>>11926690
Wait, what? Not even Yukikaze and Shigure?

Did you try doing it with Ushio and Kasumi instead of Akatsuki and Shimakaze?

>> No.11926703

>>11926699
Missed the first part, echelon is better for night battles.

>> No.11926714

>>11926699
8/8 on my first 17 tries the cut-in doesn't occur even once, at least the double attack deals 100 damage the least at night.

and by removing those two compass sends me to E instead of W

>> No.11926717

So about the searchlight, how effective is the extra cut-in rate with it?
Or is it like turbine where the effect is almost placebo.

>> No.11926723

I wish the dev will implement "skip to battle result/next phase" one day. So much wasted time watching battle over and over again

>> No.11926724 [DELETED] 

>>11926723
Why are you even here? fuck off wikiscum.

>> No.11926725

8 hour craft timer. I finally did it. Finally the both sisters are together. Thanks for being with me the whole time my dear blog followers!

>> No.11926726

>>11926723
Why even waste time playing the game? Just wait until others post pictures of the new ships.

>> No.11926729 [SPOILER] 
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The final formation for 5-4 is too sub friendly, there's nothing there that can attack a sub.

And now I finally have all the ships in the game. Again.

>> No.11926731

>>11926510
Do the devs try playtesting new features first before they reopen the servers after maintenance?

>> No.11926737
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>>11926571

>Kaga is fast.

This has always bothered me. I don't understand why she is listed as fast in the game if she's only 1 knot faster than the Yamatos and lags behind all other fleet carriers by around 4 knots or more.

>> No.11926741

>>11926737
Gameplay reasons?

>> No.11926742

>>11926731
I doubt the devs even play the game, otherwise they'd fix all the useless and outclassed shit like turbines, AA guns and the idiotic balancing by trading stats for floatplane slots.

>> No.11926755

>>11926741

Or the cutoff point is 28 knots, conveniently. That lets the Shouhous be classified as high-speed so I'll just shut up about it now.

>> No.11926757

anyone got that chart of like kancolle in a school enviroment, the one where KTKM is bully boss and musashi is not a bully'>?

>> No.11926763
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>>11926757

>> No.11926765

So I just realized Kinugasa got a kai ni. Also that I'm sitting on Kinugasa and had no idea it was a rare drop. How hard is she to get? I think I got multiple copies while submarine crafting

>> No.11926772

>>11926763
Vice principal should be the quest girl. Error girl, lottery girl and maintenance girl can be the board of directors.

>> No.11926782

>>11926772
what of the compass girls?

>> No.11926788

>>11926782
Traffic police?

>> No.11926794

>>11926782
Bureaucrats. Or the PTA.

>> No.11926795

>>11926782
Hall monitor.

>> No.11926801

>>11926725
Wow. It's like I fucked lady luck today or something. First a Yamato craft, then not even 10 minutes later a Yayoi drop from 5-4.

>> No.11926802

>>11926795
I like this. And hate it at the same time.

>> No.11926811

>>11926801

>Yayoi

Let me know when that's remarkable.

>> No.11926816

>>11926811
Hey, I did the 4 3/3/3/3 daily crafts every single day since she's been out and I've also done a fuckton of 4-4 without managing to get either Yayoi or Uzuki, it's remarkable for sure!

>> No.11926826

>>11926811
Heh, I got her within 8 tries. My 6th I think? I was spamming all 30s so I was doing 4 at a time.

>> No.11926831

>>11926491
Do you need a CL to hit the fuel node? 6 runs so far with a similar fleet and I couldn't hit the fuel node a single time.

>> No.11926833

>>11926831
Read the damn thread, there's another requirement.

>> No.11926834

>>11926831
you need 4 drums equipped. Yuubari is good.

>> No.11926836

>>11926833
I've read the damn thread you fucking retard. I have a CAV with 4 drums equipped and it's not doing shit.

>> No.11926839

Do you guys think something like a flight deck armor of sorts could be added as equipment? It could let normal carriers launch planes at orange.

Not sure if such an item should let Taihou launch planes at red though. Or if 2 of the same item on the same CV(L) should let a standard carrier do the same.

>> No.11926842

>>11926836
Is your whole fleet fast?

>> No.11926845

>>11926842
Yeah it is, 1 fast BB, 2 CVL, 2 CLT, 1 CAV.

>> No.11926846

>>11926839
If it couldnt be equipped in the small slot then it would be worthless.

>> No.11926847

>>11926839
Don't think so. Armored flight decks are incorporated into the design of the ships themselves. It's not something you can just take off and put somewhere else like cannons.

>> No.11926851

>>11926845
The CVLs are not Hiyou or Jun'you right?

Also, best if you post your fleet.

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Why does Uzuki have two damaged sprites? shimapan

>> No.11926865

Type-A or Quad O2 for subs?

>> No.11926867

>>11926855
Ask your regular general, if it's not up make one.

>> No.11926868

>>11926865
Type A for unremodelled, Quad O2 for remodelled.

>> No.11926872

>>11926855
Because either the artist or the devs felt like adding a separate damaged sprite for Uzuki Kai?

>> No.11926876
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>>11926851

>> No.11926878
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http://www.moonphase.jp/miyabi/yurikan.html

Ships loving ships.

>> No.11926885

Anyone else having trouble with the quest menu using KCV? I cleared the cache and cookies from IE but its still just a black screen for me

>> No.11926886

>>11926878
As it should be. Requited love between a man and a ship is wrong and creepy.

>> No.11926888

>>11926878
Dammit, Fujieda. I'll need both dicks for this.

>> No.11926892

>>11926891
Wo pls.

>> No.11926891

>>11926876

Those tits are holding you back, obviously.

>> No.11926894

>>11926765
Got one exactly as I was reading your post.

>> No.11926899

>>11926876
Try switching Kumano with Yuubari or something.

I think a DD could also do, just that someone else will have to hold the 4th drum in that case.

>> No.11926905

>>11926765
>Kinugasa
>rare drop
What? I've got no fewer than 3-4 of her in my last 100 or so 250/30/200/30 crafts. To me she's no different from any other CA available from this recipe.

>> No.11926910

>>11926855
because he probably wanted to make better damage sprites for both Yayoi and Uzuki but couldn't finish them in time, so instead made the original one based on the undamaged sprite to go faster.

>> No.11926912

>>11926905
rare as in not many nodes drop here

>> No.11926915

>>11926868
Thanks. Is there a reason behind this? I know the Type-A adds +2 more. Sorry if this seems like a dumb question.

>> No.11926921

>>11926912
Right, I was blind.

She's not that common, but I wouldn't call her rare either, she drops from a reasonable number of nodes.

>> No.11926923

>>11926915
Remodeled sub has two slots so she can do a cut-in with Quad torps, Type-A's can't do cut-ins

>> No.11926925

>>11926876
If you want to use 4 barrels method, you have to replace CVLs with CVs and go to north route.
Or, set 3 ships with barrels and go to south route.

Center route doesn't let you to go fuel node.

>> No.11926926

>>11926876
No idea.
I ran it with 1BB 2CV Yuubari as my mainstay.
I still hit the fuel node as long as I have 4drums when I put in either 2CLT or 2CAV as my fillers for the last 2slot.
It is either the CV or CL.

>> No.11926934

>>11926923
Ohh I see, thank you very much.

>> No.11926935

>>11926915
A sub can only cut-in if she has 2+ torps. Unremodelled has 1 slot so even if you equip torps she can't cut-in with only 1 torp, so better to give her type A then. Remodelled has 2 slots so it's possible for her to cut-in with 2 torps. Since type As don't count as torps giving her a type A will prevent her from being able to cut-in.

Maruyu is a special case, she has 0 slots unremodelled and 1 slot remodelled so just give her a type A and move on.

>> No.11926938

>>11926886
I take it that a requited love between a woman (female TTK) and a ship is just as wrong and creepy too?

>> No.11926939

Finally clear 5-3, now I hope I could get Yuubari from 5-4.

>> No.11926940

>>11926935
It makes sense now, I didn't know Type-A's can't do cut-ins. Thank you.

>> No.11926943

>>11926938
Wrong, but not creepy. Kind of cute, actually, in that double forbidden love sort of way. But still wrong.

>> No.11926957

>>11926939
>5-4
No luck from all 30 (has Yayoi too) or 250/30/200/30?

>>11926943
So something that crosses the line twice over isn't creepy? Hmm.

>> No.11926958

That new Nagato and Mutsu furniture is adorable, too bad you can't see shit with either of these two as flagship. They should allow players to reposition the secretary on the hq screen.

>> No.11926966

>>11926957
I have few yayoi but none of melon..

>> No.11926969

>>11926966
Craft for more subs then, you can never have enough, and you can get Yuubari from there too.

>> No.11926976

Why is 5-2 so shitty? 3 subs at node B crits my CV and CA to red on a fucking echelon formation.

>> No.11926977

It would be funny if the new event will be balanced around the strategy of equipping a searchlight with repair a goddess.

>> No.11926979

>>11926976
For that node echelon formation is usually bad news.

>> No.11926981

>>11926976
At least you didn't have to farm 5-2 for rankings.

>> No.11926991

>>11926976
Go line ahead or go home.

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>>11926991
>sub node
>line ahead

>> No.11926994

>>11926979
>>11926981
Is it completely normal to be forced to retreat due to taking heavy damage from node G 2/3 times? The one time that I actually got to the boss node both my CV and CVL missed all 6 of their attacks and the boss had 9hp left after taking two double attacks from BBs.

>> No.11927001

>>11926994
Your ships need to get good, I never have trouble getting to the 5-2 boss.

I go vertical for all except for horizontal on the sub node.

>> No.11927018

>>11927001
Just as I started whining I cleared the boss node twice without having to bucket once. Guess I need to do it more.

>> No.11927025

>>11927018
Whining confirmed for increasing success rates.

Which reminds me, the anon who wanted to make a rant post never did.

>> No.11927148

Jus cleared 5-3, so any tips for 5-4? Should I only bring fast ships?

I tried going with subs, but my Imuya and Goya got crit to red, so I had to go back.

>> No.11927149

>>11927025
Good.

>> No.11927162

>>11927148
Try this >>11926491

>> No.11927205

If my highest ship is 11~ and I want to level a new one, what should I do? Carry it through the last stage I fully cleared as a flagship?

>> No.11927221

>>11926763
Why is Akatsuki treasurer and Mutsu a cheerleader??

>> No.11927225
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Is there any reason why this guy didn't Kai2?

>> No.11927229

>>11927225
Maybe he likes her the way she is douche.

>> No.11927230

So, is there a recommended 5-4 fleet now or just do it with subs?

>> No.11927232

>>11927230
Do it with subs
or
you can read the thread.

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>>11927230
There is only one correct way to do it.

>> No.11927249

Out of 6 runs in 5-3 5 sent me to the southwest node and 1 to the boss and then my ships decide not to attack the flagship a single time during both day and night, fuck this bullshit map.

>> No.11927251

>>11927236
What's the story behind Aoba and flashlights?

>> No.11927252

>>11927249
You weren't here at fall event, were you?

>> No.11927253

>>11927252
Fall event was nowhere near this much bullshit, I had 15-20 runs in a row without a single boss fight the other day in that map too.

>> No.11927259

>>11927253
>Fall event was nowhere near this much bullshit


what

>> No.11927262

>>11927249
git gud

>> No.11927264

>>11927259
Much easier to reach bosses and it wasn't that hard with BBs equipped with sanshikis, not a crappy 5-10% just to reach the boss.

>> No.11927269

>>11927249
>>11927253
>>11927264
Do you have 2 DDs in your fleet, or are you just subcheesing the map?

>> No.11927270

>>11927253
>>11927249
Use 2DD.

>> No.11927272

>>11927269
>>11927270
Tried both many times, but bringing DDs makes it even harder on me to reach the boss with no one red so I decided to keep trying with subs.

>> No.11927287

Finally done with 5-3. Fuck everything. I want those 8 hours of my life and 200 buckets back.

Is the support expedition supposed to be a joke? A complete and irredeemable waste of resources and an expedition fleet? I gave up on using it halfway through.

One things that's been bugging me. The notes for 5-3 on the English wiki mention that subs are more vulnerable at night, but is this actually true? I find that not to be case from personal experience. If anything it seems like they're harder to hit but still take the same damage.

>> No.11927304
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I so very much wish a Sendai K2 is on the horizon, more than Haruna/Kirishima K2.

>> No.11927308

>>11927287
Guy who wrote it was probably some autist who spent a tonne of resources on some crazy fleet and doesn't want to acknowledge it can be done with subs, in my experience subs are extremely hard to hit at night and take reduced damage on top of it.

>> No.11927316

>>11927287
>>11927308
It's true that for day battles transitioning into night battles, subs are ridiculously hard to hit; I can't even remember the last time I damaged a sub at night. However, battles starting at night seem to follow a different rule. Maybe it applies to subs too.

But then you shouldn't be experiencing such a problem in the first place, anyway. Night battle-only nodes should be echelon, echelon, echelon, regardless of enemy fleet lineup. At least until the boss node.

>> No.11927318

>>11927304
It would be sad if she was the only Sendai not get one.

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>>11927304
I didn't think Sendai had a dere side.

>> No.11927347

>>11927249
>>11927253

What the fuck are you using? I cleared with 3 DD, 2 CL and 1 CA.

>> No.11927358

>>11927347
Subs because I keep getting one hit to red before boss with similar fleets.

>> No.11927391

Does yuubari's fuel/ammo consumption increase with kai?

>> No.11927402

>>11927391
Naturally.

>> No.11927408

>>11927402
Damnit, was hoping for the best, finally got my first one since I started playing in November, guess I wont remodel and keep her for expeditions.

>> No.11927416

>>11927408
She's a bloody light cruiser, heightened expenditures are negligible.

>> No.11927425

>>11927391
Yes. But her remodelled form is the best ASW because 4 sonars kills just about any sub.

I plan to keep at least 3 Yuubaris: one remodelled, two for expeditions.

>> No.11927427

>>11927408

>Not using Yuubari for sorties

What the fuck is wrong with you? Also the incrase isn't that big.

Also, what is in the blue node in maps like 5-3? Subs?

>> No.11927437

>>11927427
dud

>> No.11927445

>>11927427
Compared to most other CLs it is (although she's still no fatty Agano) and she loses her distinction as the lowest fuel cost CL after remodel.

I finally got a second one to stick in expeditions after remodeling my first, she's the best choice for #5 especially since I don't bother sparkling except long overnight expeditions, so her ammo cost never comes into play.

>> No.11927483

>>11927229
Is it just how Ash never evolved his Pikachu?

>> No.11927500

So what fleet should I use if I want to clear 5-4 with a normal fleet instead of subs?

What fleet are you guys using?

>> No.11927503

>>11927500
Read the fucking thread god damn.

>> No.11927530

What type of subs are in the sub node in 5-4?

>> No.11927533

>>11927530
Sexy subs.

>> No.11927541

How do you get the compass to send you to the resource node in 5-4? And is it worth it?

>> No.11927542

>>11927533
As sexy as Iku?

>> No.11927543
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Shioi wants to be normal but the other subs won't let her.

>> No.11927546

>>11927541

4 Drums, I dunno if it's worth it, but the K node has an armored carrier princess and a sub, but it was easy.

>> No.11927548

http://akankorebiyori.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-60.html

Now please go and stay go.

>> No.11927550

>>11927548
The map was just released and people will want to talk about it and discuss it.
Contain your autism and deal with it

>> No.11927552

>>11927543
Normal like what?
As white as the other subs?

>> No.11927554

>>11927548

I might try that, I just went with 1 BB, 2 CV and 3 CLT and took the route node, it was quite easy and got Uzuki.

>> No.11927556

30 times 10/10/11/10 with Yuubari, 2 drums only. Oh well.

>> No.11927564

>>11927554
What planes did you use on your CVs?

>> No.11927583

>>11927564

1 Green (Reppu), the rest blues (2 Ryuusei Kai, 1 Ryuusei), 1 Green (Reppu) 3 red (3 Suisei 12A).

>> No.11927588

>>11927583
Oh thats exactly what im using, except 3 Ryuusei kai instead of one normal ryuusei.

I guess I'll give it a try

>> No.11927605

>>11927583
>>11927554
Did you use a fast BB?
Because I took the top route that had three battle nodes and a fuel maelstrom.

Ended up horrible with all ships damaged and a C rank

>> No.11927606

>>11927605
You need to use a fast fleet to avoid the maelstrom.

>> No.11927615

>>11927606
Thats a shame, I wanted Nagato to finally see some action.
I guess that wont be happening.

>> No.11927621

The north route node with several gold Wo is a fucking pain
someone always goes red

>> No.11927631

Those pvp battles where no damage is done during shelling phase are so fucking boring, why did they have to patch refreshing?

>> No.11927633

>>11927621
I use 2xCV equipped with 3 Reppu, 1 Saiun, 2 Ryusei Kai and 2 Suisei whatever. The Wo never did more than scratch damage.

>> No.11927635

>>11927606
Replaced Nagato for Haruna and I avoided the maelstrom but I ended on a dead end.

It really surprised me that the dead end was a "Just my imagination" node and the sortie ended. The map feels like ten times easier than the previous ones.

>>11927633
Same here, they always dropped to red/orange before even firing a plane.

>> No.11927637

>>11927621
I do 4 Reppu slots and always go with ring formation.

>> No.11927639

>>11927633
I have 4 Reppu, Kaga and Shoukaku, four largest slots
It does absolutely nothing
gold Wo still hits my CLTs for 30 damage

>> No.11927640

>>11927635
>dead end was a "Just my imagination" node and the sortie ended
They know people will F5 out of it anyway. This actually makes more sense

>> No.11927644

The "just my imagination" node is spooky.

>> No.11927649

>>11927640
That's what I was thinking when I saw that. As it is there's no reason to ever F5 on the map unless you wanted to bring a fleet full of CVs and F5 for north route instead of center.

>> No.11927651

>>11927644
They're quietly following you back to base. Every time you hit the node there's one more Abyss monster lurking in the shadows, waiting to strike.

>> No.11927652

>>11927639
Im using this >>11927588 and the Wos always go to orange/red after the CV/CLT phase.

The only ones that give me a hard time are the armored carrier demons, that node always spawns one or two and they can attack even when at red so its a pain in the ass.

>> No.11927656
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What the fuck should I do? I can't bring myself to scrap/use them as food.

>> No.11927657

>>11927656
Level them all

>> No.11927660

>>11927656
sink them

>> No.11927662

>>11927656
Give me one please.

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>>11927656

Run 2-3 24/7.

>> No.11927666

Holy fuck, I'm not sure I've ever been trolled so hard by a practice battle before. Opponent had a fleet with Imuya, a CL, and 4 CVL, most of them low level. Both my DDs get critted to red by the opening airstrike so they can't hurt his Imuya, my BB and CAs can barely kill shit in either day or night combat, end up with C rank.

Of course then I'll go and throw a fleet of CAs and DDs at a Musashi/Yamato/CVs fleet and S rank it.

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Why do the green planes hate me.

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>>11927656

Run 2-3 24/7.

>> No.11927673

>>11927667

I hate you and I don't even know you.

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11927678

>>11927667
The blue/red planes hate me, I need more Ryuusei kai and more 12A planes.

>> No.11927688 [DELETED] 

Failed.
Really need to equip them with drums eh?

>> No.11927691

>>11926246
Night battle node.
4 total fights.
How is that easier?

>> No.11927694

>>11927691
Not that guy but north route always sends me to the blue dead end.

Out of 4 runs with a fast fleet, I got to the boss node a total of zero times but with a sub fleet you can always get there.

Going to try it without CVs and see what happens

>> No.11927695
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11927695

Failed.
Really need to equip them with drums eh?

>> No.11927703

>>11927691
Middle route would actually be easier if I can actually send them M node.
5-4-F is a joke. Night battle node is ezmode. The few time I went there BB cut in for scratch damage. I think the devs forgot to equip them with guns.

>> No.11927711

>>11927691
Because the only hard node is the night node and it isn't even that hard. This map is significantly easier than 5-3.

>> No.11927713

>>11927695
I think you need 5 DDs as well. Not 100% sure though.

>> No.11927716

>>11927713
wikiwki said 4
I just checked it again and they said you need at least 3ship with drums. Guess I wont be doing this expedition until I finish farming 5-4.

>> No.11927718
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Tried going the south node to see if it was really easier and saw this.
Fuck this shit, im going back to the north route.
I don't want to see this ever again.

>> No.11927720

>>11927713
Only 4 DDs, I just did it with 4 DDs (3 with drums) + 1 CL, no 6th ship.

>> No.11927725

What formation should I use for 5-3? I tried ring for a while, but it leaves me at mercy of RNG, since fleet's attack is down.

>> No.11927727

>>11927725
5 subs, line ahead always

>> No.11927729

>>11927716
Apparently you can get great success from that expeditions randomly even without sparkles, might have something to do with the drums.

>> No.11927737

I fucking hate it when I forget that a node has subs, I hit it ten times for scratch in line ahead.

>> No.11927738

>>11927725
It kind of depends on what fleet you're using. If you're bringing CAs and BBs and only using DDs for compass then just line ahead and ignore the sub. If you're using subs then obviously line ahead for torpedo damage. I used 6 DDs (then Yuubari + 5 DD for last kill) in ring formation to kill the sub and win in night battle.

>> No.11927754

>>11927729
Really need to start crafting for drums.
Does 10 30 10 10 gives drum? I need more depth charges.

>> No.11927778
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11927778

Kitakami doesn't give a fuck.

>> No.11927786

>>11927778
Which one is your truwaifu?

>> No.11927788
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>>11927786
Probably the one in his flagship slot

>> No.11927826

>>11927788
This is kinda cute.

>> No.11927845

50 all 10 crafts
No drums...

>> No.11927906

>>11927845
>10 crafts

>> No.11927921

>>11927906
"50 crafts with 10 of each res"

>> No.11927938

>>11927921
Oh, I see. My bad.

>> No.11927946

>>11927921
Why do you need more than 4 drums?

>> No.11927951

>>11927946
to run 5-4 and the expedition that needs them at the same time.

>> No.11927953

>>11927946
Expedtion 21 and Expedition 37 and 5-4

>> No.11927967

Damm I really love 5-4.
115fuel node guarantee.
420 base exp.
Guarantee boss node.
No need to bring lvl99 CLTs.

Ranking rush is going to be intense this month.

>> No.11927969

>>11927967
I really hate 5-4

If I run it with subs then I always have to retreat at the preboss node and if I run it with a real fleet then it always sends me to the dead end node every single time.

>> No.11927972

>>11927969
>dead end node
serves you right

>> No.11927975

>>11927969
>dead end node
Lrn2read and git gud.
I guess even a luck based game can be difficult if it is being played by a retard.

>> No.11927976

>>11927972
>>11927975
Im not seeing the problem, is there a compass requirement that I missed?

Everyone seems to be using 1 BB, 2 CV and 3 CLT or subs.

>> No.11927984

>>11927976
There is a reason why all the smart people are running suzuya, kumano and yuubari.
I wonder why.

>> No.11927988

>>11927967
But can you level slow ships there?

>> No.11927991

>>11927988
Why not?
The 2hime at the pre boss node hit for scratch damage. Use ring formation if you are scared of the air phase.

>> No.11927997

>>11927967
>guarantee guarantee
That is if the pre-boss node doesn't fuck someone to red with the air strike which happens half the time. Even with four Reppu plus AA guns and ring formation

>> No.11928008

>>11927984
Wow that really works, I feel stupid for missing it.
Thank you

>> No.11928010

>>11927984
And there is a reason smarter people aren't running CAVs

>> No.11928012

>>11928010
>>11927984
This thread would be a lot better if you people just shared your discoveries instead of acting like this

>> No.11928017

>>11928010
Why all the hate?
They are cute plus this is the only map where they are useful. Better than just being a decorative comfort ship.

>> No.11928018

>>11928012
It's already shared. The thread would be a lot better if we don't have to read the same shit multiple times.

>> No.11928019
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11928019

Furutaka-Kai2 with searchlight when? Or rather, her stock equipment should be searchlight.

>> No.11928029

Can 3-3 and 3-4 be sub cheesed?

>> No.11928031

>>11928029
No.

>> No.11928033

>>11928029
3-3, no
3-4 yes but very difficult
as hard as 5-4, maybe a little bit easier

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>>11928031
>>11928033
Thank you.

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11928041

The RNG gods have blessed such a young and kuso ttk like me.

>> No.11928046

>>11928041
Looks like the shitty part is accurate, why would you go for Yamato at your level?

You wasted a lot of resources that could be used for something else and doing sorties with her will murder your resources.

>> No.11928047

>>11928041
Have fun with your resrouces

>> No.11928049
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>>11928041
Good job.
Dont listen to those poorfags.

>> No.11928052

I wonder if the depth charge + sonar thing only really makes a big difference against high armor targets? Yahagi just one-shotted a gold Yo-class on double line.

>> No.11928053

>>11928049
>>11928041
Yeah welcome to the Yamato club, only the very best Teitokus reside here.

>> No.11928055

>>11928052
Green T?

>> No.11928056

>>11928041
I actually felt like taking a break from kc and thought it would be a waste to let my resources sit just above the regen level, so I thought what the heck, I'll throw it into LSC.

Mysterious ways indeed.

>> No.11928058

>>11928055
No, parallel engagement.

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>>11928019
Hopefully we get more CA kai ni soon.

>> No.11928062

>>11928041
You should do a Taihou recipe quick.
You are probably having good RNG seed now.

>> No.11928067
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11928067

I hate those yellow flagship CLs in 3-1 and 3-2. Always hits my sub for 6-8 damage. Is it a guaranteed hit or something? It never seems to miss.

>> No.11928068

>>11928049
But you're talking to a poorfag. Beyond a certain point you can be as inefficient as you want and you'll never notice a difference. Level 30s with under 10k resources is as far from that point as you can get. At that time I didn't even have four fleets.

>> No.11928078

>>11928067
They have better ASW capabilities than their regular counterparts and as far as I can remember, they have ASW equipment as well.

>> No.11928081

>>11928078
Damn. I guess I just have to hope that part of my grinding party can kill it before it attacks. At least enough for me to hoard some more buckets.

>> No.11928085

>>11928081
Sometimes they miss if yours subs have high enough levels but sometimes they can bring a sub down to 1 hp with just one hit.

>> No.11928087

>>11928085
Maybe I'll have better luck after she remodels. Well, statistically I will, I suppose.

>> No.11928091

>>11928087
If I were you though, I'd leave them unremodeled if you're taking them to grind with your party. They can still be hit and if they do, their repair times skyrocket. My remodeled Goya when hit to yellow damage already takes nearly an hour to repair. Except for Imuya though. She still has a somewhat fast repair times even when remodeled

>> No.11928093

>>11928091
Oh, I see. Thank you, I'll keep that in mind.

>> No.11928097

>>11928091
My lvl 70-ish Maruyu, remodelled, takes about 25mins to repair from 1hp. She's my 3-2 punching bag.

>> No.11928102

>>11928097
I still don't have one because I'm trying to avoid doing LSC for me to hoard resources. Maybe I'll try a minimum recipe if I get my resources high enough.

>> No.11928106

>>11928081
Just farm 3-3 for a day and get a bunch of low lvl imuya to rotate.

>> No.11928122

When are the ranks going to reset?

Thinking of aiming for top 500 after the ranks reset but its my first time doing something like this.

>> No.11928125

>>11928078
Flagship CLs have depth charge + sonar, flagship DDs have depth charge

>> No.11928126

>>11928122
in 11 hours 10 minutes

>> No.11928129

>>11928126
Thank you

>> No.11928131

Sup TTKs, I come with a minor new version of KCV, v2.1 r295.

https://github.com/Zharay/KanColleViewer/releases/tag/v2.1.0r295
-- Oh hey GitHub now allows for binary attachments...

Basically it standardizes the translation files and how it makes use of them. It also will save any untranslated items like say the new drums to the respective translation file, thus making a translation super easy (I can be lazy now!?). The translations are also dependent on the program's language. So if its in Chinese, it will switch to Chinese text (there is none now, but can be done later). You can even turn off the translations altogether.

So yea not that big a deal. Basically trying to get it setup so that it'd be added to the original version of KCV at some point in the future.

Side note - Your settings will reset with this version. Redo your settings on start up as need be.

>> No.11928135

>>11928131
The screenshot function is broken for me on the last release, is that fixed in this one?

And if its a problem on my side, how do I fix it?

>> No.11928144

>>11928135
Probably something on your end as it works for me on this version. Granted I hardly use the feature much myself.

Could be that you are saving the image to a folder that requires rights. It could also be you are still using the OAPI link or something other than DMM's usual address (the usual API link is fine I believe). Or it could also be that your version of IE is too old.

>> No.11928146

>>11928144
IE11, no rights required, using API link.
The error I get is "Screenshot save failed. Generic error on GDI+"

Using r281 here

>> No.11928173

>>11928146
Then make sure the folder you are saving to exists. Try a different format too and see what happens.

If nothing works then it may be an actual minor bug with systems that work too fast/slow.

>> No.11928177

>>11928173
Its fixed now, thank you.
Something changed my settings and it was pointing to a folder that didn't exist for some weird reason.

>> No.11928178
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11928178

Got her under 10run.
Why cant Hatsukaze be as easy as her?

>> No.11928308

Do Kumano and Suzuya work for the carrier requirement on 5-4? Or are people really taking them over CLTs?

>> No.11928319

>>11928308
People take them to carry the drums. Yuubari is an alternative to this.

>> No.11928326

>>11928319
hm, suzuya is sturdier than yuubari

>> No.11928329

Oh shit, Taihou plane drops from 20/60/10/100? This is gonna make getting all the other actually useful holos much harder, what a bitch.

>> No.11928336

>>11928326

But equally cute with an even more equal and lovely voice.

>> No.11928338

Have we confirmed what Searchlight does?

>> No.11928339

>>11928308
CLTs are overkill for 5-4 plus their ammo cost is 50% more than CAV after the nerf.

>> No.11928344

>>11928336
Which is why my Yuubari has 10 levels on Suzuya but for 5-4 I need maximum efficiency

>> No.11928346

>>11928339
>overkill
Is that why my fleet of Kongou, Kaga, Shoukaku, Kitakami, Kiso and Yuubari failed to S rank the boss several times?

>> No.11928349

>>11928346

It's because you didn't love them enough.

It's time for a shopping spree and quality time with your ships.

Remember to cheer them on when they sortie too.

>> No.11928352

>>11928349
Or!, that anon is full of shit

>> No.11928359
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>>11928346
>failed to S rank the boss several times
Not enough love.
Did 10+ runs for Uzuki, all S rank. I only did the first few runs with CLT+Yuubari. Once I found out you can put drums on CAV, I swapped them out.

>> No.11928365

Seriously, is these drum used for anything aside from route? Seems like that's the only purpose according to this thread.

>> No.11928371

>>11928365
Expeditions, read the thread again.

>> No.11928372

>>11928365
More drums more fuel
4x = 115
8x = 230??

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHPHoqE7cxA

>> No.11928384

>>11928372
3x=100
4x=115
5x=130

8x=175

>> No.11928387

A cash shop item that lets you re-roll the compass once per node. 5 for 250 yen. How many would you buy?

>> No.11928394

>>11928387
0. Why would I need one?

>> No.11928395

>>11928387
None, because it's too game-breaking to exist.

>> No.11928397

>>11928387
I'd rather just reload the map.

>> No.11928400

>>11928394
>>11928395
>>11928397
such jewing

>> No.11928403

>>11928387
Why would you pay 250yen when you can F5 for free?

>> No.11928412
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>>11926855
Eh? How do I get this damaged sprites?
Do I need to get her to red or something?

>> No.11928413

>>11928412
Uzuki kai

>> No.11928415

>>11928403
You clearly did not participate in the fall event
Pre-boss done, prime condition to take down the boss, compass trolls you. One extra chance.

>> No.11928418

>>11928372
Are we talking nodes, expeditions or everything?

>> No.11928421

>>11928415

You may never know when all those 100 rerolls will just be south.

>> No.11928419

>>11928415
And then you reroll and it sends you south again

>> No.11928439

Can Yuubari with 4xType 3 SONARs kill the troll sub in 5-3 with line ahead? I'm now on the formation selection screen for the last kill, failed to sink the boss once with line aboob.

>> No.11928442

Is there any difference between the two different screens when you get a drop from a sortie? They are both the same, I think, except that the other has a smaller line of text under.

>> No.11928445

>>11928442
The longer one reminds you to add the ship to your fleet. It's for beginners.

>>11928415
That one extra chance is probably not worth spending money over, in the same way that resources aren't.

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What an outrange?

>> No.11928449
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>>11928415
The fall event isnt even that difficult. It was only hard because we did it with limited resources and underleveled fleet. I know I did since I was still new lowbie back then. If I had 100k and lvl90+ fleet, I would probably laugh my way through it in day.

>> No.11928461

>>11928449
I know people lie about how levels don't matter but they really don't at night; I don't care what the devs say. Resources were critical only because RNG dominated the event, and if you wanted to farm you needed even more. But the thing that really made the event hell was the lack of information. Just knowing from the start that orange wouldn't sink you could have saved everyone a lot of trouble. With all this time to grind levels and resources and figure out the inner workings it's hard to imagine how difficult Midway will be. Either they introduce all kinds of new mechanics or for some people it'll be disappointingly easy. And most might hit a wall that luck can't beat.

>> No.11928471

I still felt piss poor with my 150k resources.

Fuck this I need to reach 300k for the whole month of March.

>> No.11928472

So putting drums on expedition ships is the same as sparkling them or you only get Daiseikou without sparkling on the new expeditions?

>> No.11928476

>>11928472
> is the same as sparkling them
this would be great, no more fucking 1-1.

>> No.11928477

>>11928461
>orange wouldn't sink you
We told you. Some just chose to not believe them.
>Oh no, I must retreat from night battle because some of my girls at at red heavily damaged
That was the difference between the people that cleared it and the people that don't. Of course there were some unlucky people that couldnt craft any sanshiki to save their life.

>> No.11928496

How do you set up your planes for 5-4?

>> No.11928503

>>11928496
3 Reppu on highest slot, red on lowest, others Ryuukai.
It's enough for the weaker air superiority.

>> No.11928512

>>11928503
Thanks.

>> No.11928513

>>11928496
All blue.

>> No.11928516

>>11928513
Wo pls

>> No.11928517

>>11928503
Just... Just how many reppuu do I need to get air superiority anyway? What value am I aiming for? Seems like a crazy number considering you said 3 reppuu on top slot

>> No.11928521

>>11928517
Doesn't matter. Just wing it.

>> No.11928526

>>11928496
enemy highest is 106 I think
you need 3x of that to get total air domination. bring 3cv if you want to save bauxite

>> No.11928533

Well shit, I got Agano on my third win. Pretty much no reason to do 5-4 now. And I was expecting a hard map...

>> No.11928534

>>11928533
You got all ships that drop there?

>> No.11928538

>>11928534
No Yayoi, but given that I have nothing to craft for besides 30/30/30/30 dailies and LSC, I'll get her eventually.

>> No.11928539

who do you guys bring to carry the 4 drums besides yuubari? I don't have her yet.

>> No.11928541

>>11928539
CAV's

>> No.11928543
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>>11928526
>>11928496
>bring 3cv if you want to save bauxite
Well, I was going to ask about my fleet whether that I'm being wasteful or not.
3Reppu on highest slots

>>11928541
My Suzuya is 35, so it would be redundant to change her with my Yuubari, right?

>> No.11928546

>>11928543
where do you level CA? 3-2-A or there's better place?

>> No.11928548

>>11928546
>where do you level CA?
You don't.

>3-2-A or there's better place?
Just follow your heart.

>> No.11928558

>>11927304
Maybe alternate art

>> No.11928567

Anyone else having problems accessing DMM/Kancolle?

>> No.11928571

>>11928567
that stupid white screen? clear everything up and try again.

>> No.11928577

>>11928571
My Kancolle kept giving me error upon login, so I tried going to dmm website to refresh and get a new api, but I can't even access the site.

>> No.11928583

>>11928577
To add to this, tracert and ping request both timing out.

>> No.11928585

>>11928577
are we having the same error? mine was a complete white screen after I press login to DMM.. cleared my cookies and I finally could login normally again.

>> No.11928591

>>11928585
No, I'm getting webpage not available

>> No.11928594
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>>11928543
Just checked it again. You actually need 348 if you get the formation with 2oni. So 8total reppu on the highest slot to be safe.

>> No.11928623

>>11928548
He just asked a simple question you fucking tool.

>>11928546
CAs are a little awkward in that they don't get MVP as easily as BB/CV/CVL, and they can't attack subs so most of the various world 4 ASW cheesing stuff doesn't work for them like it does for DD/CL. Probably about the best you can realistically do is just repeat as many maps as possible with the mas fast as possible; 4-1 is like 3-2-a with about 1/6 chance of an enemy CA in return for two nodes per sortie (read: less fatigue), while 5-4-F is like 3-2-A but with requirements to get there (iirc 2+ CLT and <2 CV, might be wrong on the exact numbers) in return for something like 80 more base xp (400 vs the 320? of 3-2-A.

If you're cool with swapping out ships after every run or two to manage fatigue, then grinding 5-4-F is probably about the fastest way you can level 1-2CAs. If not, 4-1 is probably the best blend of cost effective and fatigue friendly you can do.

I'd love to be wrong and it turns out someone has a flawless idea that makes it super easy to level CAs, but outside of a slightly more efficient map I haven't seen much to that effect so far.

>> No.11928626

I can't believe I've been wasting resources grinding 5-2 for rank. 5-3 is sooo much easier and doesn't burn nearly as much resources.

I never did 5-3, because I thought it was just a waste of time.

But I'm getting consistent A ranks with 3 CLT and 3 DD. Maybe it's because they buffed sonars. Really wish I had attempted 5-3 earlier.

>> No.11928632

>>11928626
People grind 5-2 for rank? I thought it was only for Mikuma, at least that's what I used to do, farming her for her cannons.

>> No.11928636

>>11928623
Thanks, 5-4 is easy but it cost much bucket.
I'll have 4-1 a try first.

been playing all this while and I only have 1 lvl50 maya and the rest of CA are below lvl20

>> No.11928644

>>11928636
No, if you do what I suggested and only do 5-4-F, you run into a composition very similar to 3-2-A where it's only CLs and DDs. Almost all flagships, yes, but still only CL/DD, and at base 400 xp a pop, it's literally just a slightly harder, significantly more lucrative 3-2-A.

If you do 4-1, just do the first two nodes; if you go top route you do the first node and then the sub node, if you go SW-SW you do the same (normal+sub node), if you go SW-NW you get a shitton of fuel and then if you go W it's another sub node. The very bottom node and the far left third node are both Ta-heavy nodes, I'd honestly reset if you get sent to the far bottom node but you can always just retreat from sortie after the W-W sub node.

>> No.11928653

>>11928644
right, sorry I mistaken that as 5-3. as long I didn't bring any CV and drums I'll always get to 5-4-F

any recommendation for that node? CA(flag) 5DD double line?

>> No.11928659

>>11928653
Well you certainly want a sub to tank that stuff, that's the whole point of farming DD/CL nodes - they can only hit the sub, sub is cheap+fast to repair... yeah. I'll be completely honest with you I haven't tested the fleet composition shit thoroughly and I don't know all of the conditions but as far as I know, as long as you don't bring more than 1 CV and as long as you bring 2CLT, you will always go directly to 5-4-F.

Personally I bring 1BB 2CLT 1SS and 2CA since I've been leveling all of my Takao class girls lately and the BB ensures second shelling phase which in turn removes any worry of postbattle torpedo strike adding scratch damage to non-sub-chans, but you can always play with what you bring along based on what you want to level exactly.

>> No.11928663

>>11928653
Oh, and Line Ahead or bust. Flagshit enemies tend to have retarded amounts of armor, best to be sure that your girls have no trouble killing them.

>> No.11928664

>>11928653
6 SS.

>> No.11928667

>>11928546
I mainly level mine in PVP, they are good enough for night battles there.

>> No.11928670

>>11928664
Please read before responding. He wants to level a CA (in this case, using 5-4-F), not asking about how to clear the map in general.

>> No.11928672

>>11928659
>>11928663
Thanks, now I wish I have kumano but that can be later.

>>11928664
thanks mate, but its about leveling CA.
I've already cleared 5-4

>> No.11928680

>>11928672
The only map where CA will always get MVP is 5-3. Putting them in the flagship spot for 5-4 farm will also ensure them to get MVP once you trigger night battle on the boss node.

>> No.11928687
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The hell?

>> No.11928689

>>11928687
There's probably a Jintsuu Kai2 there, but you still haven't cleared your cache.

>> No.11928690

>>11928672
Oh, just a side note, I have no idea what the fuck whatever troll anon earlier in the thread was talking about in terms of requiring CLTs to hit 5-4-F, did some testing and checked wikiwiki and it looks like the A/B/C branching rules are basically 2+ carriers=A, 4(?) drums and carrier = C, everything else is B. So you can drop the CLTs and put in whatever non-CV/CVL ships you want; DDs would work great if you're jewing resources, I just put in Takao/Atago so I can continue leveling them, whatever.

Apologies for the false info re: needing CLTs, I was a retard for assuming that anon was correct without trying non-CLT comps for myself.

>> No.11928691

>>11928689
I did clear my cache yesterday though, maybe I'll try to do it again later

>> No.11928693

>>11928690
>空母と雷巡が1隻以下
雷巡 = CLT
What are you talking about?
I guess this part isnt bolded yet so there is no confirmation yet.

>> No.11928700

>>11928693
wikiwiki doesn't seem to have anything about CLTs unless I'm missing something (which is possible), and in my tests, 0CLT still went to B just fine so it's pretty clear you don't need 2CLT to go to B.

>> No.11928703

>>11928689
>>11928691
Cleared cache again, still empty fleet.

>> No.11928706
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>>11928690
yeah, this was posted last night.

leveling 2CA at a time, at least this gives more exp, Thanks

>> No.11928712

>>11928706
Anything good about the bottom route?
Never been there myself.

>> No.11928714

>>11928706
Too bad about the fuel maelstrom for slow ships, I'd like to train my Yamato-class on an easy map like this.

>> No.11928715

>>11928712
have not tried there yet, I choose the middle route its much easier for me personally.

>> No.11928716

>>11928712
http://akankore.doorblog.jp/archives/36626643.html

>> No.11928717

>>11928714
Just wait for the nips to discover L->M

>> No.11928721

>>11928714
if you consider training Yamato-class on normal maps you don't really like your resources anyway.

>> No.11928720

5-3, echelon or double line for the first two nodes?

>> No.11928724

>>11928720
what fleet composition ?

>> No.11928726

>>11928721
What is the problem? Flagship position rarely get hit anyway. PVP is just to slow. I bring Musashi everyday to PVP since fall and she still hasnt hit lvl99 yet.

>> No.11928735

>>11928726
it's the resuply costs.

>> No.11928743

>>11928721
Pretty much this >>11928726. There's no other way to get levels and PvP takes forever. Yamato-class has a tendency to MVP anyway, making it 1k+ XP per node.

>> No.11928745

Do people bring CLTs to 5-2? They seem really squishy.

>> No.11928749

>>11928745
why not?

>> No.11928748

>>11928745
Not enough love

>> No.11928750

I can get yuubari from 5-4 right?

>> No.11928751

>>11928749
Because they always get critted and make me frustrated.

>> No.11928752

>>11928750
Yes

>> No.11928757
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11928757

Conquered 4-4 within 6 tries. Now I'm in a dilemma of getting stuck at 3-2 with these poorly leveled DDs for priority reasons. I was originally planning to beat it with lvl 60-90ish elite ones, but 5-4 rarity farm has forced me to drop the idea. Taking the plunge right now might not be able to pass BB node, and most of them are used in expeditions.

>>11928750
She's not even that rare.

>> No.11928758

>>11928724
4DD1CL1CA.

>> No.11928759

>>11928751
Bring 3BBs then.
I see lowbie sortie with 3-4BB all the time.

>> No.11928761

>>11928751
Unless your going to bring more BBs your options are kind of limited. The BB at G doesn't really care about your non BB/CV ship's armor. May as well let KTKM or Ooi try to one shot it. Mine dodge it pretty often anyway and if not they're cheap to repair.

>> No.11928765

Yellow CVs after 5-4 run really annoy me, since they take forever to repair yet a bit wasted to be bucketed on.

Any suggestions, /jp/?

>> No.11928768

>>11928765
Just bucket them.

>> No.11928780

>>11928757
she might be not to some but I've been looking for her since november.

>> No.11928781

>>11928757
I beat 3-2 with a fleet of lv 20 DDs. Not sure why you're not just spamming buckets on them. They cost almost nothing to repair and refuel.

>> No.11928782

>>11928780
spam ALL30

>> No.11928784 [DELETED] 

>>11928782
Do you prefer to bring a CAV or Yuubari for drum carrying duty for 5-4?

>> No.11928785

Do you prefer to bring a CAV or Yuubari for drum carrying duty for 5-4?

>> No.11928786

>>11928782
Waste of devkits

>> No.11928787

>>11928785
Yuubari.

>> No.11928788

>>11928782
That's only worth it if you don't have Yayoi yet. 250/30/200/30 is better, you can never have enough subs.

>> No.11928791

>>11928785
I bring all 3.
More drums more fuel.

>> No.11928792

>>11928788
I have 2 pages of subs and 10 free slots which is used for modernization

>> No.11928794

>>11928787
aren't cavs made of sterner stuff than cardboard-armor yuubari

>> No.11928795

>>11928780
She appeared to me with all 30s occasionally, and I got her in 4-2 as well, so there shouldn't be a problem getting her.
>>11928781
I'm conserving my buckets for world 5 runs. Also, I'm surprised that you passed it with that low level fleets.

>> No.11928798

>>11928792
how do you level subs to their kai?
from 40 to 50 seems like forever when the repair time starts taking 30min more which is a waste for bucket

>> No.11928802

>>11928792
Scratch that, do 250/30/200/30 for Hachi. Aim for at least 4 of her.

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>>11928795
People still think level matter?
Oh silly tripfag. I am pretty sure there are people who did it with lvl1 fleet too.

>> No.11928809

>>11928802
which I already did, it saddens me for not having yuubari.

>> No.11928811
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>>11928781
>3-2
>buckets

>> No.11928812

>>11928788
250/30/200/30's poll has more ships so chances of getting a melon might very well be lower

>> No.11928814

>>11928359
The fleet order kinda.. amuse me.

>> No.11928815

>>11928809
>4 Hachis
Holy fuck.

Endgame aim for 6 of each sub, at least 2 of which are remodelled.

>>11928812
>more ships
I don't think so, most if not all of the DDs available from all 30 don't appear in 250/30/200/30 at all.

>> No.11928818

Kumano really loves me.

5-4 , 3 runs: n/a, Kumano, Kumano.

>> No.11928824

>>11928818
I wonder if they'll nerf the droprate of rares

>> No.11928825

Stuck at world 3 or 4 club is still open
A-Anyone?

>> No.11928827

>>11928824
don't jinx it

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>>11928825

>> No.11928831

>>11928825
I decided to clear them today, cleared 3-4 in one go using Yamato-class for fun and the boss dropped Hatsukaze. I wish that luck had been used in LSC instead, 2 months and still no Taihou in sight.

>> No.11928833
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>>11928825
git gud?
No excuse to be stucked there when the game is ez mode with all the information and strategy out.

>> No.11928837

>>11928825
I haven't cleared 3-2 since a month after unlocking it because I just feel so unmotivated to push forward and there's always a new ship to grid to kai and subsequently scrap. All this glowing praise of 5-4 is compelling me to move forward, though.

>> No.11928838

>>11928825
I'll clear 4-4 when I'll feel like wasting a bit of resources on it (aka after finishing with LSC).

>> No.11928844

>>11928825
I graduated it last week, and I'm already halfway through 5-3. Either suck it up and clear them or don't complain about being left behind.

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>>11928825
This is actually me, but that's just because I decided to grind all Kai2 (except Jintsuu) while doing World 2 dailies. I've been preparing my DD assault fleet in the background though and just need to modernize Makigumo to do 3-2.

>> No.11928852

>>11928818
I think she's a common drop, found 2 in 7 runs.

>> No.11928860

>>11928852
And a Kirishima on 4th run.

Nothing to see here, everyone. Just a random little girl with bad luck.

>> No.11928876

>>11927667
By the way, I crafted a type-62 plane earlier today.
I didn't know those could be crafted, I thought they were Taihou's special toys.

>> No.11928883

>>11928876
Craftable as of yesterdays maint.

>> No.11928885

>>11928876
They can as of latest update.

>> No.11928894

>>11928757
Your fleet's fine. You don't really need to max out AA either for 3-2. Just max torp, firepower and armor. This means you're already good to go.

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>>11928830
>>11928833
I know, just didn't feel the need to actively clear it, but after I heard all good drop from 5-4 I want to taste it
>>11928837
I only tried to clear 3-2 under 10 tries and still failed, maybe I need to try do it more. I'm sure this fleet could clear it fine, if not because RNG

>> No.11928909

>>11928876
But it's still inferior to Stuka and 12

>> No.11928917

>>11928726
I only use Musashi in PVP (flagship position) that she can get MVP (no sub fleet) and she hit 99 last week. This also includes some amount of time that I level Yamato to 80 using the same method.

>> No.11928918

>>11928909
as a DB it's the weakest, as a fighter it's the second weakest.
Only thing it does well is doing 2 things at the same time.

>> No.11928929

Does the ranking "Reset" right at Midnight or does it actually keep going until the actual reset at 3 AM?

>> No.11928931
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11928931

That was quick.

>> No.11928933

>>11928931
Saw it coming though.

>> No.11928934

What the fuck, we didn't need Pyon for the last composition quest?

>> No.11928935

>>11928934
That's what I noticed after I trained Pyon to level 20

>> No.11928939

>>11928935
Well, apparently she gives an air radar at least.
Fuck, if I knew, I would have cleared that quest ages ago.

>> No.11928940

I have a question regarding 5-3.

Is it even possible to end up at node E with a fleet that doesn't have 3+ BBs or a CV?

Pic related is my final clearing run (got an A in day battle; the gold sub and the hime were untouched but I fucked up and lost my screenshot), I've gone here 10+ times and not a single run sent me to E. (I used a sub fleet; yes, I didn't get the sub node in that run.)

>> No.11928941

>>11928940
I once went to E with 5 subs, but only once. Don't ask me how that happened.

>> No.11928946

>>11928934
Pyon wasn't originally part of DesDiv 30, she only got assigned after Kikuzuki sank and their division was disbanded.

>> No.11928942

Approaching last day of the month. With 5-4 as new 5-2, how's your ranking race?
>>11928929
I think the score recording stops at 0000 hours for the month.

>> No.11928945
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11928945

I have a question regarding 5-3.

Is it even possible to end up at node E with a fleet that doesn't have 3+ BBs or a CV?

Pic related is my final clearing run (got an A in day battle; the gold sub and the hime were untouched but I fucked up and lost my screenshot), I've gone here 10+ times and not a single run sent me to E. (I used a sub fleet; yes, I didn't get the sub node in that run.)

>> No.11928947

>>11928940
Fuck, I can't delete this post? Password incorrect?

>> No.11928948

>>11928941
I was sent there at least 3 times when I did mine all day with subs.

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>>11928941
>>11928948
Damn, I must have gotten really lucky then. In my last 2 runs I used a sub fleet. Both runs got me to the boss node, I didn't get diverted (the diversion in pic above was from Arpeggio event where I tried 5-3 with an all sub fleet without success, but then I only tried once).

I gave up using a normal fleet after the first 3 runs, because all my subsequent runs ended in disaster and I was out of steel. I'm starting to suspect all the RNG here is time-based too because the first 2 runs of pic related were before 9 am (JST), and I only cleared it once for the next 8 or so hours before I gave up and just subcheesed.

Setup: Yuubari 4 type 3 sonars, fast BBs 2x 46cm, 1 sanshiki, 1 radar, Maya 1x 20.3 (the 7 firepower one), 2x 15.5 yellows, 1 sanshiki (couldn't be bothered to change the equips for my BBs and CAs), Yukikaze and Shigure 3x O2 quad torps.

>> No.11928968

>>11928965
It's safe to assume that all RNGs in games are time-based because it's the most common method by far.
Though again, measuring that time won't be done in minutes, hours or other big units.

>> No.11928970

>>11928965
Should have finished it with Iona along with fast fleet.

Put away Yuubari & stop caring about that troll sub, with that 4 ASW setup she won't do shit in night battle. Put something more useful like CA or CLT.

>> No.11928971

>>11928968
I think the compass routes are either minute- or hour-based, but even if it's minute-based, it lasts for quite a while before it changes again.

>> No.11928972

What do you newbies think about 5-3?
Now imagine the same thing but with the boss having 500HP. No subcheese available back then. The boss also have huge armor and can only be dealt big damage by sanshiki equipped ships.

>> No.11928977

>>11928968
in my farming, I logged compass rolls
over 3 weeks, I had extremely similar results on the same days
Mondays were average, tuesdays had horrid results, wednesday was average, thursday had horrid results, friday was spectacularly awesome, saturday was the best, sunday was okay but a down trend.

This repeated itself without fail over this entire month. same map, same fleets

I've only done roughly 120 to 140 runs per day for this but it does add up to roughly 3200+ runs a month which is an okay sample size in my opinion

>> No.11928979

>>11928972
I rather do E-4 than 5-3 because I power through those maps with CAs

>> No.11928982

>>11928968
He isn't talking about seeds, if that's what you're thinking.

He's saying that the probability of a successful run is dependent on time.

>> No.11928984

>>11928970
I didn't even have my fast BBs up to scratch back then, and I certainly didn't have 46cm cannons.

>>11928972
I'd have prepared my steel for events at least, I started today with like 3k+ steel tops, and would've continued with a normal fleet had I not run out of steel. I have enough sanshikis from 46cm recipes to go around, and having DDs with high luck helps to kill the hime too.

>> No.11928985

>>11928971
>>11928977
RNG are functions were even small changes in the seed will lead to big changes in the result.

While it is possbile to ruin a RNG, you'd have to go out of your way to produce one that gives "better" results based on minutes or days.


>>11928982
which basically depends on the seeds due to lack of user-interaction in this game.

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>>11928984
I didn't even use BBs, just CAs, 2 DDs for compass offering, and Iona.

It's still subcheese-able though, so if you spam enough, it'll be cleared eventually

>> No.11928992

>>11928989
I didn't have enough CAs to go around at the time either.

>> No.11928993

>>11928905
Okay, got 4-4 last kill even though failed to sink the sub.
With 3-2's last attempt somehow could gotten past the BB node with only scratch damage, only to be redirected to item node.

>> No.11928998

>>11928992
At least you need 4 of each classes to be comfortable with incoming maps with unknown compass requirement.

If you still haven't trained any CA, then good, now train Tone-class to anticipate Midway. They'll surely be needed.

>> No.11929004

>>11928970
>>11928984
>>11928989
>>11928992
Scratch that, my main problem was my resources. I completely burnt through my fuel after clearing that event. I managed to regain enough resources and use the fogs to clear up to 5-2 but that was it.

Now I remember why I only tried 5-3 once. No resources to try again.

>>11928998
I know. Actually after the event I ended up on focusing on training my CAs, most of them are Kai'd and remodelled now. Though I don't know why the fuck neither of the Tone class is one of them (Myoukou and Haguro being the other 2 non-Kai'd CAs).

>> No.11929006

Since 5-4 gave us flag transports, I am certain Midway will give us Flag CVLs and possibly a new kind of enemy CV

>> No.11929007

>>11928998
>Tone-class
Please no.
I refuse to use them until they get update art.

>> No.11929009

>>11929006
Flag CLT with opening torp

>> No.11929011

>>11929007
This.

>> No.11929012

>>11929006
Flag CVLs which can attack subs and at night, too. And >>11929009.

Midway is going to be fun.

>> No.11929017

>>11928985
No, what he's trying to say is that the probability distribution of success/failure varies with time. For example, perhaps at midday 20% of the output space of the PRNG function implies a success, while at night it's only 5%. There is no reason for this to depend on the seed since a proper PRNG uniformly distributes it's output. There are no "hot" or "cold" seeds.

>> No.11929021

>>11929012
>Flag CVLs which can attack subs and at night, too.
Is 5-2 boss actually CVL boss? She can launch planes but is lured by sub bait.

>> No.11929030

>>11929021
Himes are a different matter altogether.

>> No.11929035

I'm bad at navigating dmm.com so can someone tell me where they post the top 500 ranking when it comes out? Do they post it at all? I'd like to know what rank I finish at

>> No.11929040

>>11928942
My current point 515
500th - 486points

I am actually quite worried. Anyone know how many point each 5-4 run give? Might have to spam at least 10runs tomorrow just to be safe.

>> No.11929039

>>11929035
Read the wiki.
You will automatically got it if you're in top 500, and you could see your rank in your report/admiral page

>> No.11929047

>>11929017
that would fall into "they'd have to go out of their way to ruin the RNG"

>> No.11929049

>>11929035
It's on the game page itself. Check information tab below Kancolle game screen.
They don't list all 500 ppl tho.

>> No.11929050

>>11929039
you just went maximum fucking retard
First off, you cannot see your final rank. Ranking updates at 3 PM and then rolls over into the next month at 0:00. The 3 AM rank update is for the next month. All points gotten between 3 PM and 0:00 you cannot see.
Secondly, I am not talking about rewards. I want to know my precise ranking.

>>11929049
thanks, I'll give it a look. How many people do they list? top 10? top 20?

>> No.11929051

>>11929040
You have 30 minutes before the ranking resets, I advise doing it now...

>> No.11929056

>>11929051
Ranking resets one day early this month? Or are there only 27 days this February?

>> No.11929057

>>11929051
you sure about that?

>> No.11929060

>>11929056
wow, I just reached maximum facepalm
this year february has 28 days

>> No.11929061

Three ships with barrels for 21 right?

>> No.11929062

>>11929051
Wo please.
What world are you living in where february has 27days.

>> No.11929063

>>11929060
It's either 28 or 29, where did you get 27 from?

>> No.11929064

>>11929060
>>11929062
>>11929063
Obviously I'm asking whether ranking resets one day early for this February.

>> No.11929067

>>11929047
Yes, and that's what everyone was talking about except for you. Like I said, it had nothing to do with seeds. If I didn't know better, I'd think you were trying to show off your limited knowledge of PRNGs to impress people on an anonymous imageboard.

>> No.11929068

>>11929063
The desperate need to be finally fucking done with this month

>> No.11929070

>>11929064
Why don't you read the wiki, or if you don't believe us, watch their twitter for updates? This is a no-brainer.

>> No.11929076

>>11929070
I can't find anything on the English wiki that says rankings for this month reset early, I don't know where to find the info on the Japanese wiki, and searching their Twitter yielded nothing too.

>> No.11929077

Alright guys, I'm doing 5-2 and 5-3 tonight, need to farm Zuikaku at 5-4 before it's patched.

5-2 standard setup is 2 CVL 1 Cv 2 CLT 1 BB?

5-3 I should spam 6 DD?

>> No.11929082

>>11929077
>before it's patched
what makes you idiots think this isn't intentional?

>> No.11929083

>>11929077
Subs for 5-3, but I guess 6 DDs work too.

>> No.11929086

>>11929082
Maybe they decide they overdid it a little. No, you're right, obviously new features are playtested extensively before deployment.

>> No.11929087

>>11929082
Because idiot, they nerfed 5-2, and 5-2 was a hell of a lot less beneficial pre nerf than what 5-4 currently is.

>> No.11929088

>>11929067
I don't want to believe anyone would write code that interpetes the results of a RNG based on the current time of day.
Even people who write simle flash games shouldn't do that.

>> No.11929089

>>11929087
[citation needed]
I play since November and never heard of this before

>> No.11929091
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>>11929082
It is supposedly a 9stars map.
As it is, it is even easier than 2-4.

By did you guys test out barrel usage in expedition yet? It saved you 1bar of ammo as far as I know.
But did anyone confirmed that equipping a barrel is equivalent to sparkle?

>> No.11929092

>>11929089
>November
I laughed, go fucking google it, I'm not going to bother spoonerism some new kid who tosses Ad hominems around when he doesn't have a fucking clue.

>> No.11929093

>>11929092
>spoonerism

Fucking phone, meant to type spoonfeed.

>> No.11929095

>>11929092
> <generic spoonfed comeback>
All your credibility just went down the drain

>> No.11929096

>>11929091
I tried with ex6, equipping four DD's with a barrel each + 2 DD's with sparkles but I didn't get great success.

>> No.11929097

>>11929091
I think it only applies to the new expeditions.

>> No.11929099

>>11929096
What about ammo usage? Did it reduce its usage for ex6?

>> No.11929100

>>11929092
I've been playing since August and this is the first time I've heard about 5-2 being nerfed as well.

Not like it mattered to me.

>> No.11929103

Whoever made Kancolle's bgm ought to make more, this game needs different bgm for different worlds.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22978489

>> No.11929108

>>11929100
Did you already clear 5-1 when 5-2 first came out?

>> No.11929120

>>11929099
I think it saved a bar of fuel, I'd need to try it again to be sure

>> No.11929125
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>>11929120
Guess I have something new to craft.

>> No.11929136

Can someone grab the new BGM using IDM or whatever?

>> No.11929142

>>11929100
There used to be no BBs in the boss node. Mikuma were add to the droplist there on the same update. It took them around somewhere between 2 to 4 weeks for them to patch it.

>> No.11929182

>>11929136
5-4 Normal
puu sh 7cqdl.mp3
5-4 Boss
puu sh 7cqgb.mp3
Also, in case someone asks, that marriage(temp) BGM
puu sh 7cqiB.mp3

Spam detection a shit

>> No.11929187

is there a confirmed fleet requirement for expition 21?

>> No.11929190

>>11929187
1 CL, 4 DD, 3 drum.

>> No.11929195

>>11929190
thanks, what about flagship level?

>> No.11929197

>>11929195
15.

>> No.11929198

For 5-3 using 4DD 1CL 1 CA, is it better to use echelon or double line?

>> No.11929199

>>11929142
ITT: Veterans get to be spoonfed.

>> No.11929202

>>11929198
Echelon for night battles. Double line or ring for boss battle depending on your ASW. Usually ring though.

>> No.11929204

>>11929142
Hopefully the do the same for 5-4 and add a flagship sub or 2. Ru-chan can stay.

>> No.11929205

>>11929096
Yeah.
I think the barrel=sparkle only works for ex21 and ex37. My expedition fleet just came back with great success (4barrel equipped ship + 2sparkle filler).

>> No.11929213

>>11928946
> after Kikuzuki sank
;_;
I always liked her

Two questions, how do you craft barrels?
As in with what have you succeeded, whether there is any specific ship or a different recipe than all10.

And for 3-2 which one was more effective, line abreast or double line?

>> No.11929214

>>11929204
Nah. The boss node is strong enough. They just need to redraw the map where you go from K->M.
It is only easy because you get to skip K node.

>> No.11929215

>>11929214
Not gonna happen

>> No.11929219
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>>11929213
Up to you.

Line abreast is for those who prefer dodge, but it reduces def. Double line is for those who prefer def (it doesn't reduce dodge as far as I know). Line ahead like me if you want to be a boss, I'm >>11928811.

I'm not sure of echelon's effects in day battle, but I do know ring formation is shit here.

Here's something that might help you.

>> No.11929220

Any good advice for clearing 3-4? I tried using subs but the first node at NE and E are using abreast fuck you w/ golden CLs.

Should I go for 2 CLT, 2 CV and 2 BB?

>> No.11929221

>>11929220
Most strategies that work for 2-4 also work for 3-4. I think RNG just hates you.

5 subs, maybe?

>> No.11929224

>>11929214
Well considering you need to allot 4 slots for barrels to skip it I think that would stay. Honestly I feel the map is pretty balanced, they just need to tweak the enemy comps.

>> No.11929231

>>11929224
Boss node now has a 50% chance to be line ahead would fix this.

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>>11929220
Try this, I used it today and cleared it in 1 try. You can use Taihou if you've already graduated from the LSC club.

>> No.11929239

So which expedition did you guys give up in order to run ex.21? You still need to run ex.2 for buckets, ex.3 for steel and ex.21 is almost identical to ex.5.

>> No.11929241

>>11929233
Thanks, but I only have a level 74 Mutsu, 83 Hiei Kai Ni and 80 Kongou Kai Ni, my main CVs are still 60+ should I use my level 99 torpedo monsters instead or?

>> No.11929245

>>11929239
I've stopped doing 2 and 3 a long time ago, I'm betting 5-6-21 is the new hotness right now.

>> No.11929246

>>11929241
Just do 5 subs for 3-4, should have done it when Iona was here.

>> No.11929247

>>11929220
You only need to beat it once. Just keep sortieing. The whole map is random with no compass rule. Even a monkey can beat it given enough time.
If you want to save time, stick repair hammer on all your ships. Reset if you get sent to the east node instead of boss.

>> No.11929248

>>11929239
I do ex37 for steel since it is great success without sparkling,
it will be 5-21-37 once I get enough drums, I never sparkle.

>> No.11929250

What are the rewards/requirements for 21 and 37?
Cant find these in the english wiki.

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RJ-chan

why are you so bad at being a carrier

>> No.11929255

>>11929250
http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%B1%F3%C0%AC

>> No.11929256

>>11929239
Ex5
Ex21
Ex35
I guess when I am playing or running low on buckets I will do Ex2. Since I started doing Ex35, my steel and bauxite has skyrocketed. My bauxite is almost 2.5x more than my fuel now.

>> No.11929257

>>11929253
flatshits being shit

>> No.11929264

>>11929248
>I do ex37 for steel since it is great success without sparkling,
How does this work? Is this even possible?

>> No.11929271

>>11929264
It just works, try the new expeditions.

>> No.11929279

>>11929264
You need to craft 12drums.
Ironically this make have 4 of each sub almost useless for expedition now.

>> No.11929283

>>11929271
>>11929279
Another question, do you need to do the 80 hour expedition to be able to send expedition 37?

>> No.11929284

do we have better drum recipe now? besides the 10/10/11/10

>> No.11929286

>>11929284
Need bigger sample size >>11929125

>> No.11929294

So currently for 21, 3 drums on the DDs will guarantee a daisekou?

wikwiki seems to mention that you don't really need sparkling for that

Anyone tried pushing 4 drums onto expe 5 and see if it guarantees a daiseikou too?

>> No.11929296

>>11929294
What im interested is in a great success for bauxite expeditions without sparkling, that would be incredibly helpful for midway hoarding.

>> No.11929302

>>11929294
nothing guarantees a great success

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>>11929220

This is what I used.

>> No.11929342

>>11929256
But you need daihatsu to make 35 actually competitive?

>> No.11929404

Am I the only one that thinks radars (specially air radars) will be important for Midway?

>> No.11929406

Is using support expedition with carriers worth it?

>> No.11929408

We really need to update the expedition wiki page, that's so damn outdated.

>>11929404
What difference does it make what you think? You should always have a radar on every ship that isn't a CV/L or CLT.

>> No.11929415

>>11929051
>>11929060
>>11929062
>>11929063
>>11929070
Why do we have so many Wos here?

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>>11929415
You called?

>> No.11929423

>>11928931
what's the use of those drums?

>> No.11929428

>>11928945
I got sent there a single time with subs in 100+ runs.

>> No.11929430

>>11929241
4 BB 2 CLT works fine. Expensive as hell though.

>> No.11929432

>>11929428
So it should be safe to assume it's as likely to occur as being sent away from the boss node even if you use 2 DDs?

>> No.11929433

>>11929408

Sorry, I forgot to add "radars on CV".

>> No.11929471

>>11929433
That would make things rather difficult. I only have two Type-14 and two Type-33, with no Type-32.

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4-4 boss weekly with Yamato, fun times.

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I'm afraid I've hit the limit of my patience with 5.3, /jp/. I was expecting the searchlight to change my results but I have nothing to show for it. Most of my latest attempts were made with this fleet:

Level 98 Kongou: 18-inch x 1, 16-inch x 2, and Type-32 surface-search radar
Level 83 Hiei: 16-inch x 3 and searchlight
Level 95 Kitakami: Type-A midget submarines, 5-tube Long Lance launcher, 4-tube Long Lance launcher
Level 94 Oh'i: Same as her sister
Level 98 Yuudachi: 12.7cm Model B x 1, 10cm x2
Level 94 Shigure: 10cm x 3

All of them in their second refit forms, echelon formation until the boss, line ahead for the boss.

I've made it to the boss a handful of times but not once was the actual boss targeted. I've switched the torpedo cruisers for heavy cruisers to try to address this because the submarine made them useless at night but the results are the same. I've also tried running the destroyers with ASW loadouts but the enemy destroyers at the end of their line almost always send me packing.

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong here. I can't try with submarines because, although they are all refit and have their upgrades maxed out, I only have 3.

Maruyu doesn't count.

>> No.11929490

I made an account 3 days ago and I've been trying to log in every day, but it shows 満員 for every server. Is it really crowded all the time (even at 4 am in nipland) or did I fuck up?

>> No.11929491

>>11929484
you don't need 2 BB, go with 2 DD 2 CL 2 SS, i cleared 5-3 with ppoi, beaver, kuma, naka, imuya and goya.

>> No.11929494

>>11929490

You have to wait for the lottery.

>> No.11929499

>>11929490
fucking read the wiki, you've to enter the lottery for a spot.

>> No.11929502

>>11929484
tried double attacks instead of cut-ins?

>> No.11929505

>>11929491

No, no, no. No way am I taking slow ships with me if I have surface ships. I am terrified of enemy submarines at night.

>> No.11929507

>>11929494
>>11929499
Fuck, my bad. I heard about a lottery but I thought it was optional. Can't believe all the shit you have to go through just to play a free game.

>> No.11929513

>>11929507

It's call a popularity boom, limited servers, and exclusivity.

>> No.11929517

>>11929507
If you think a lottery just to play the game is bad, you're better off not trying to play at all.

>> No.11929518

>>11929513
I think it's called trashy service.

>> No.11929522

>>11929484

I cleared it rotating between 3 fleets, these were:

Fleet 1

Lv 58 Shimakaze Kai
Lv 56 Yukikaze Kai (Cut-in)
Lv 71 Верный (ASW specialist)
Lv 69 Yuubari Kai (ASW specialist)
Lv 59 Abukuma Kai
Lv 41 Takao Kai

Fleet 2
Lv 38 Suzuya Kai
Lv 70 Isuzu Kai 2 (ASW specialist)
Lv 48 Naka Kai 2
Lv 42 Michishio Kai
Lv 40 Kasumi Kai
Lv 37 Naganami Kai (ASW specialist)

Fleet 3
Lv 38 Noshiro Kai
Lv79 Kiso Kai 2
Lv 37 Asashio Kai
Lv 31 Makigumo Kai (ASW specialist)
Lv 37 Akebono Kai
Lv 53 Kumano Kai

Almost everyone with had a sonar and double atk set up. I cleared it in about 10~15 runs.

>> No.11929523

>>11929502

With the heavy cruisers, yes. I had Kinugasa and Choukai equipped with 20.3cm Mark 3 guns and 2 yellow 15.5cm guns along with Type-14 air-search radars.

>> No.11929524

>>11929517
Why?

>> No.11929528

>>11929524
the whole game is lottery.

>> No.11929531

>>11929524
The entire game is one big lottery.

>> No.11929533

>>11929522

Forgot to add, echelon/double line in all the pre-boss node and line abreast on the boss node, I didn't get S-rank that often, but it did the work.

>> No.11929534

>>11929528
>>11929531
Well that's a shame. Thanks for the heads up.

>> No.11929537

>>11929523
try double attacks on all ships

>> No.11929541 [DELETED] 

>>11929522

I see. It certainly would be easier on the resources to run fleets like these. Armor and big bodies won't protect you from enemy cut-ins, of course, but I am still very much intimidated by the boss' escorts.

So my problem isn't the formations I'm running?

>> No.11929543

>>11929533

Oh, I see. Line abreast is the last one, correct? The one with the ASW bonus.

>> No.11929546

>>11929543
This helped me before, I hope it does to you too
>http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21975093

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>>11929484
I'm also doing trying to clear 5-3 at the moment with this setup. I was thinking about leveling Jintsu for searchlight, but looking at your post made me rethink otherwise.

>>11929522
Now, looking at this post made me realize I could've remodeled my Hibiki 2 levels ago. And here I thought it was lvl75.

I still don't quite understand echelon formation though. I might need to change up my equipments for double attack too.

>> No.11929555

>>11929543

I saw you had a cut-in set up on Poi, don't do that, she doesn't have the enough luck for that, replace a 10cm for a sonar, for Shigure I always go with 10cm, torpedos and radar/sonar.

In fact, just use a cut-in set up for Shigure, double atk on everyone else, including Kitakami. For the torpedo monsters just put the mini-sub and 2 15.5cm (you can replace one of them for a 10cm)

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>>11929484
You just have to believe and keep trying.
Until last night, i thought 5-3 was a joke and nobody had actually cleared it before.
It was impossible to defeat the transport flagship for the last time until Kinugasa killed it at last.
When i had no buckets left, i changed a few things, switched Yuubari for Kitakami and went there one more time.
I threw around 280 buckets if my calculations dont fail.
This was my fleet. Used CA's, DD's and Kitakami.

>> No.11929578

>>11929568
I just started attempting it today, 7 attempts and I just hit the boss node now, and got an A rank with 5 subs, flagship died in first attack. Why not just use subs? And on that note why the hell is farming this first node and getting 860 exp instantly not a thing? This seems insane if you don't care about winrate on your profile, could have a level 99 sub fleet in a day or less.

>> No.11929584

>>11928934
I recall people jumped to conclusions right after maintenance and assumed the quest was for the 4 drawn by the same artist without even reading the names.

I was conveniently already leveling Mochizuki for marriage so all I had to do was get Yayoi kai'd and feed some ships to Mutsuki and Kisaragi.

>>11929484
I cleared it the first 4 times easily with Mochizuki, Poi, Hibiki (not Bep yet), Inazuma, Shigure, Beaver; double attack + sonar on the first 4 and cut-in + sonar on the last two, used ring formation on boss. Last kill I had to replace Mochizuki with Yuubari for double attack + 2 sonar and stuck damecon on the others in place of sonar since they were only doing chip damage to the sub anyway.

It probably would have been even easier if I had used echelon pre-boss, I was using line ahead instead and kept getting hit to red after an early streak of luck that got me a quick 3 boss kills.

>> No.11929587

>>11929578
It is a "a thing", whenever someone asks about the fastest way to level a sub someone says 5-3. Probably most useful for Maruyu since that's the only way she's going to get MVP.

>> No.11929589

>>11929547

Echelon is a night battle formation, or so they say, it worked for me.

Also, you need more sonars, your DD/CL must kill the sub during the day battle. Just remodel Hibiki and stuff her with ASW.

>>11929543
>>11929555

Yes, I felt my fleets were kinda frail to go against a hime during a day battle, also there was a troll sub, so I wanted to kill it as fast as possible to have a chance to kill the flagship on the night battle.

>> No.11929601

>>11928585
I'm getting this white screen while logging in through KCV. I can log in fine on internet explorer though. I accidentally clicked on the yellow pop up at the log in screen and it's been happening ever since. I tried clearing my cache and cookies but it still happens.

I can get around it just by clicking the back button, but it would be nice to fix if anyone had any suggestions.

>> No.11929603

What the hell, I thought the requirements for 2-1 were 3 DD with barrles and a CL? Why did I just fail? Flagship is level 70 too.

>> No.11929604
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I never really noticed a profound different between formations for the night battle nodes. It's not like they stop the enemy from getting cut-ins, which is what really ruins your day. Regular attacks almost always miss and doubles do scratch damage. Cut-ins take you to orange, and eating too many along the way leaves you in a bad spot for the boss.

Then once you get to the boss you just have to hope someone plays the hero and says fuck your ring formation.

>> No.11929606

>>11929603
21*

>> No.11929608

>>11929601
Try hitting back when the white screen appears. I have to do that every time.

>> No.11929609

>>11929603
Wiki says 4 DD.

>> No.11929611

>>11929603
I hope you mean #21 and not 2-1, and in that case you need 4 DDs (only 3 need barrels though). Read the wiki more carefully next time.

>> No.11929612

>>11929609
I did CL + 4 DDs and failed so dunno

>> No.11929615

>>11929611
I can't into moon so I can't read wikiwki and kanncollewiki/expeditions hasn't been updated since like November.

>> No.11929617

>>11929612
Did you equip the barrels on each DD/CL?

>> No.11929619

>>11929615
Then you better start learning.

>> No.11929623

>>11929617
3 on Naka and the other on a DD (was I supposed to do it another way?)

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>>11929604
Or you could have sortie ships that ignores the sub who also have a higher chance of not getting wrecked in the previous nodes. Different strokes for different folks, I guess,

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>>11929502
>>11929522
>>11929533
>>11929537
>>11929546
>>11929555
>>11929555
>>11929568
>>11929584

Thank you all very much for your time and consideration. You've all been of much assistance.

I'd thank you all personally but this is as corny as I think most are comfortable with.

Thanks again, guys. I really picked up a lot of helpful things.

>> No.11929634

>>11929623
yeah, give only one to each ship. It needed 3 ships with barrels for success.

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>>11929584
>I was conveniently already leveling Mochizuki for marriage so all I had to do was get Yayoi kai'd and feed some ships to Mutsuki and Kisaragi.

And she was the only one in this DesDiv that I have somehow haven't modernized fully. After it is done, I will sortie to 3-2 with 30+Mutsuki's.
My wild cards are Yuudachi and Shigure, they are correct right?If there is a better choice I would like to hear.

>5-3
Huh, that was a fun map with 3Fog ships.
My steel stock never recovered

>> No.11929639

>>11929634
Oh, dammit. Thank you for the info.

>> No.11929641

>>11929625
I found CAs and BBs to be far more susceptible to getting blasted straight to red. Whenever my DDs ate a cut-in they almost always wound up with orange damage, whereas heavier ships ended up with single digit HP.

>> No.11929647

>>11929641
Nov event solidify certain ideas, it's hard to toss away the notion of using big ships. Anyway, congratulations on clearing the map.

>> No.11929659

>>11929641
Supposedly high level DD's can't get one shot to red.

>> No.11929668

>>11929659

Define "high level", please.

>> No.11929672

Do 46cm recipes drop sanshiki?

>> No.11929675

>>11929668
I wish I knew myself, I only saw someone say that in an earlier thread. My level 40 Shimakaze still could get one shot red so it's higher than that.

>> No.11929685

>>11929659
There certainly seems to be something about DDs that mitigates extreme damage. Just going by the numbers (firepower, armor) here's absolutely no reason why a Ta cut-in should drop a DD to half health instead of 1 HP, but that what happens.

>> No.11929689

>>11929672
only those who fulfill the minimum requirements for sanshiki

>> No.11929702

>>11929689
I'll go with 10/250/250/250 then.

>> No.11929707

>>11929637
I'd probably rate their usefulness on 3-2 as Poi > Beaver > Seal > PTSD > Bep, but it shouldn't really matter much. You don't need Shigure's AA at all though so she's less useful than Beaver in every way on 3-2.

If you don't mind wasting damecon you can also stick them on Mutsukis and advance at red (if either of the good DDs are red then beating the boss will likely be too hard). I had 16 at that point and never consumed one before so I didn't mind burning one on Kisaragi when I cleared it.

>> No.11929713

So when are the rankings going to reset? Tomorrow?

Some anon said they were going to reset today but the old rankings are still there.

>> No.11929716

>>11929685
Well, there's definitely a mechanic for dealing with damage that should sink a ship that's not allowed to be sunk. Lots of times it seems like one-shotting gets turned into ~50% current HP damage, while damage just short of one-shotting ends up leaving your ship at single-digit HP (which arguably makes having more armor/HP a bad thing when you know you're going to get critted anyway). It's especially noticeable in PvP where they keep halving a ship's remaining HP over and over.

>> No.11929725

>>11929707
>>11929707
Yeah, I should probably swap out Shigure.
I put her initially with the thought higher levels but ZKMS and Yukikaze would fit better.

>wasting damecon
No.
Events might need them.

>> No.11929729

Did they nerf double attacks? I've been getting a lot more scratch damage double attacks.

>> No.11929782

I just realized I haven't gotten a single Chiyoda drop ever since the update, despite normally swimming in them; so as a result I can't clear expedition 36 to get to 37; all I have is a lvl 4 Chitose. I wasn't even thinking about it until now and yet the desire sensor is still at work.

>> No.11929786

>>11929782

Should have saved those AVs for your Daihatsu.

>> No.11929790

>>11929786
I hope we can get Daihatsu outside of LSC at Midway

>> No.11929807

Why is 5-4 so fucking hard? I've made it to the boss node every time but it's always D rank, everyone needs a bucket. This shit is harder than 5-3.

>> No.11929811

>>11929807
Post your fleet

>> No.11929814

>>11929807

What are you using?

I've only done 2 runs, both I made it to the boss and cleared with a S rank, I haven't done any more runs because I'm too busy poking Pyon.

>> No.11929832

>>11929786
I didn't even get my first ZUNship until a few days ago; I've been doing Yamato attempts (with 3k bauxite) more for Akitsumaru than for Yamato.

>> No.11929845

>>11929807
Post your fleet. I'm pretty curious how you can do so poorly on the boss node because this map is a lot easier than 5-3.

>> No.11929850

>>11929807
>Why is 5-4 so fucking hard?
How did you get to 5-4 if you're having trouble with it?

This shit is easier than fall E3 or the whole arpeggio event.

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>>11929845
>>11929814
>>11929811
>>11929850
Managed to get my first victory right now. Here's the fleet. All green planes are Reppu, all red 12A, Kongou has 2x 46cm.

>> No.11929951

>>11929902
I will never understand why you guys have so many green planes. I run with around 50 planes total and get all my torpedo/bombing raids in just fine.

Almost never even take scratch damage from enemy air raids either. No sanshiki and a few 10cm on destroyers or cruisers is all I have for AA aside from flagship position bonus.

And since your fleet setup will take you to north where there are no night battles, do you even need to set up KitaOoi with 15.5s?

>> No.11929969

>>11929951
Enjoy losing all your bauxite replacing planes due to lack of even air superiority (on this map supremacy is essentially impossible anyway though).

>no night battles
How about finishing off boss node? Or just killing stuff during shelling phase? What would you use instead, more torpedoes to go over soft cap and likely just overkill the target anyway?

>> No.11929985

>>11929969
Not that guy, but I find the bauxite saved isn't even that much. If you're exchanging planes to green to "save bauxite" and there's no real defensive bonus to having air superiority, (considering you never take damage from enemy air raids int he first place) you may as well just swap those same planes to 15.5 to "save bauxite" and deal a bit more damage.

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>>11929484
>I can't try with submarines because, although they are all refit and have their upgrades maxed out, I only have 3.
You only need 1.

>> No.11929991

>>11929986
Did you give her turbines?

>> No.11929993

>>11929533
>line abreast
Not ring?

>> No.11929994

>>11929991
No, turbines are placebo. They don't really help at all.

>> No.11929995

>>11929986
I tried to do that but stopped because it was raping my W/L ratio.
5-4 is better for subs anyway and you can S-rank the boss if you get to it.

>> No.11929997

>>11929713
That wasn't just some anon, that was fucking Wo.

>> No.11930000

>>11929995
I tried with a normal fleet and it was raping my W/L ratio just as badly. 3 subs should be enough to do the job, I think, though really I'd recommend 4.

>> No.11930001

>>11929993

Never tried it.

>> No.11930002

>>11929702
10/251/250/30 is enough

>> No.11930005 [DELETED] 

>>11929707
>>11929725
What?

Shigure cuts in quite frequently, when I used a normal fleet in 5-3 she got MVP as much as Yukikaze did.

For day it's Poi > Seal > Beaver > PTSD > Bep.
For night it's Beaver > PTSD > Poi > Seal > Bep.

>> No.11930017

>>11929637
Replace Shigure with Shimakaze, she can tank better than Yukikaze.

>> No.11930021

>>11929991
>turbines
For what?

>> No.11930023

>>11930005
In no universe is Seal better than Bep in day or night battle

>> No.11930024

>>11930005
But I never said she didn't, I just said that Beaver is better everywhere except AA (which is useless on 3-2). And day combat is the most important on 3-2 so I'd say Poi is the best there (she might even kill a CA if you go line ahead).

>> No.11930028

>>11930023
>>11930024
Failed to follow the convo, see >>11930017 now.

Bep can kill subs but that's it, the seal is superior in almost any other department.

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>>11930023
Seal is the DD with the highest survivability.
I know most people think HP isnt important but that extra HP is the difference between her going red/orange. Especially noticeable in the fall event.

Ok 2great success in a row.
I guess it is pretty much confirmed that as long as you have drum, there is no need to sparkle.

>> No.11930156

>>11930113
So 1 drum each for all 6 = no 1-1 run needed?

>> No.11930164

>>11930156
Correct but I dont have 6drums to test it out though. I only 4.

>> No.11930184

>>11930164
That's too easy.

>> No.11930231

>>11930113
So would drums work as the sparkle effect on every other expedition?

>> No.11930237

>>11930113
The initial three drums aren't enough though, I need to get to crafting some.

>> No.11930244

Has anyone in /jp/ been successful in crafting drums so far?
Done around 55 all10 crafts and nothing so far.

>> No.11930296

>>11930244
I've gotten two from 10/10/11/10 with CL flag.

Couldn't say how many attempts I've made. I don't keep track at all. Maybe around 30-50.

>> No.11930305

>>11930244
3 from roughly 100 of assorted 10/10/11/10 and 10/10/30/10 tries. All of them came from the former, though

>> No.11930309

>来月3月には、いよいよ海外艦が実装開始予定です
YES

>> No.11930317

>>11930309
Is it the Regia Marina's time to shine?

>> No.11930319

>>11930309
They finally did it. Who's it gonna be!?

>> No.11930320

>>11930309
Don't German ships have male names?

>> No.11930321

>>11930309
Time to bring back LSC hell?
They'll probably add Musashi and the foriegn ship into the pool

>> No.11930322

>>11930309
Kriegmarine bitte

>> No.11930323

>>11930319
>>11930317
>>11930320
>>11930321
>海外艦最初の1隻の入手は「遠征」関係がキーとなる予定です。
Dunno

>> No.11930325

>>11930321
Google translate says something about expeditions so maybe it has something to do with that?

I hope its like that instead of having to deal with LSC.
LSC is the worst thing in the game and should be removed

>> No.11930330

I'm laughing my ass off that I escaped 3-2 with Murakumo in red. Preparing myself to get fucked by compass in 3-4.
>>11930309
Enterprise confirmed.

>> No.11930331

>>11930309
Oh boy. I hope Enterprise will be a Midway reward.
>>11930323
So what is it gonna be? Send a 2BB 2CLT 2CV fleet to an X expedition for a low chance of getting an enemy ship?

>> No.11930334

>>11930325
Makes sense
>Milkskuh uboat

>> No.11930335

>>11930323
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_submarine_U-234

The most suitable candidate.

>> No.11930336

>>11930330
You've been playing for how long and you barely finished 3-2 now?

>> No.11930338

>>11930323
Run the sub expedition 10 more times for the new ship

>> No.11930340

>>11930336
Too much grinding. Also sparkling six ships while sparkling some ships on expedition wasted a lot of time.

>> No.11930342

4CA 2DD worked fine for me for 5-3, finished it within 40 bukkits and probably about 10 total runs - more time was wasted waiting for them to regen to 49 morale than on the map itself since I was too lazy to sparkle on 1-1 between runs. Echelon on the way to boss (though honestly it didn't do much, I tried a number of formations several times each and all of them gave roughly similar damage outputs/fail rates on first node so I'm not sure I believe formation REALLY matters in these night battles), Line Ahead on boss - with 4CA the sub doesn't really matter and I didn't give a shit about S-ranking the boss, just killing the flagship, which you have a pretty good chance of if any of your CA-chans actually TARGET the fucking thing. Expect to night battle on most boss runs, day battle is mostly just clearing out the non-hime/transport enemies, ta-class kind of a crapshoot, so night battle is where you'll likely kill transport.

It probably doesn't actually MATTER which ships you use so long as they're kaid and modernized and equipped for double attack, but I just did all four of the Takao class, most of them around level 50-60 save for god-empress Atago in the 80s, and shigure/yuudachi kai2.

>> No.11930363

>>11929807
>5-4 so fucking hard
>hard
Read the wiki. 5-4 is easier than 2-4 to be honest.

>> No.11930392

So drums are craftable? What recipe?

>> No.11930396

>>11930392
Read the thread.

>> No.11930401

>>11930396
I have. 10/10/11/10 is unsuccessful.

What is a better recipe?

>> No.11930404

>>11930401
Suicide.

>> No.11930409

>>11930401
I am now the proud owner of 7 drums thanks to that recipe. Craft harder.

>> No.11930411

>>11930409
What is your flagship? I was using Yuubari. Did about 50 crafts of that recipe.

>> No.11930412

>>11930320
So what? Does Japan care? They can just as easily make cute girls from them too.

>> No.11930416

>>11930412
traps! fuck yeah!

>> No.11930419

>>11930412
I'm sure they'd feel weird to call a cute girl Prince Henry.

>> No.11930421

>>11930411
I've been using Naka-chang. Probably get drums at a rate of around 5%.

>> No.11930423

>>11930419
>traps
No.

>>11930419
You kidding? This is Japan we're talking about, you know.

>> No.11930424

>>11930416
Reverse traps.

>> No.11930427

>>11930409
Have you tried sending a fleet to exp21 with 6 girls equipped with one? Does it grant a 100% rate of daiseikou?

>> No.11930432

>>11930419
At least it not King George V

>> No.11930454

>>11930427
No, I haven't tried it with 6 drums yet.

And of course right after I post about how well the 10/10/11/10 recipe has been treating me I go on an 0-50 and counting stretch. I'm sorry, RNG.

>> No.11930474

Do people know if they stop checking ranks at 12am or 3am in Japan?

>> No.11930482

>>11930474
Though it was 11PM last month, usually around 9PM JST.

>> No.11930488

>>11930482
How do you check exactly when they decide to reset?

>> No.11930548

>>11930488
11hours left
Keep up the 5-4 rank farm.

>> No.11930557

>>11930548
How do you fleet 5-4? Just 4-5 SS?

>> No.11930560

>>11930557
people who try sub farming 5-4 are clinically retarded

>> No.11930574

3-4 done with only one sortie. What might be the best fleet for 5-2? 1xBB 2xCLT or 2xBB 1xCLT? Should I use double attack or torps for damage?

>> No.11930575

>>11930557
All DDs!!

>> No.11930581

>>11930575
Why not 3CLT 3DD?

>> No.11930584

>>11930574

Trial and error are you best friends.

>> No.11930587

>>11930574
3CLT is fine.

>> No.11930592

>>11930574
Read the wiki.

>> No.11930594
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11930594

Confirmed that 1 drum each for all ships equals great success, or at least increases the chance of it. I'm relieved that I won't need to spam 1-1 as much as before.

>> No.11930599

>>11930594
do 100~ samples to see how high the percent is

>> No.11930603
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>>11930557
yuubari + 5

>> No.11930606

>>11930594
Is that exp21?

>> No.11930610

>>11930594
What about putting 1 drum on all ships and sending them on a bauxite expedition like 6, 11 or the 3X one?

Will that give great success?

>> No.11930611
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11930611

I'm starting to like Melon-chan more and more.

>> No.11930614

drum crafting is getting annoying. There should be a mass craft button.

>> No.11930627

>>11930594
For the new expedition or for any of them?

>> No.11930628
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11930628

>>11930611
Drum cut in is strong afterall

>> No.11930634

150 drum crafts with CL give me 0 drums
Switched to a DD got 3 in 20 crafts. Now I feel like a retarded

>> No.11930638

>>11930628
what, is that real? seriously?

>> No.11930644

>>11930628
Please tell me that isnt a photoshop.

>> No.11930647

>>11930628

As expected of YASEN.

>> No.11930649

>>11930634
10/10/11/10?

>> No.11930656

A question to those who did the fall event: Did anyone put 3 torps and 1 sanshiki on Aoba? What happened?

>> No.11930668

Can someone teach me the secrets of 5-4? I'm getting rekt.

>> No.11930671

>>11930668
all subs

>> No.11930678

>>11930671
I thought using drums was important. I keep getting rekt at the N node.

>> No.11930681

>>11930668
Aren't there plenty of resources to help you already? They're even referenced in this thread.

>> No.11930690

>>11930681
I just thought that there would be something more cheap than bring CVs. 5SS seem to be okay, but doesn't always S rank. I'm wondering what the middle ground is.

>> No.11930691

>>11930671
Wo pls

>> No.11930694

Is it impossible to setup logbook to work with kcv if I'm using IE11?

>> No.11930697

>>11930690
Going cheap to finish a difficult level always costs you more in the long run. Suck it up and open your wallet for akagi, you jew.

>> No.11930704

>>11930697
So 3CLT 2CV Yuubari(4drums) is the cheapest I can go?

>> No.11930706
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>>11930678
Why are you even going to the N node, just go North. This my fleet, 10 sorties 10 boss S rank and only Kaga went to orange and only once.

>> No.11930710

>>11930706
Does Suzuya just have 4 Drums?

>> No.11930711

>>11930706
what plane you bring?

>> No.11930715
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11930715

Now that they fixed CAV with 5-4.
What can they do now to fix CA?

>> No.11930716

>>11930711
You need a decent chunk of Greens for H.

>> No.11930721

>>11930710
Yes. My other CAVs/Yuubari are too low leveled though I guess I could've have used CLs.

>>11930711
Was experimenting with the planes so didn't really have a static combination. Last few sorties I went with 2 greens (highest and lowest slot) and 1 blue 1 red on the remaining slots.

>> No.11930722

>>11930704
CLT got nerf with ammo. They are no longer cheap.
Go with 3DD. There is no BB that can hurt you until the boss node.

>> No.11930723

>>11930721
>green on lowest slot
Wait, what?

>> No.11930724

>>11930722
Only thing they increased is ammo usage and ammo was super easy to get, now its even easier with the new expeditions and barrels

>> No.11930729

>>11930716>>11930721

I have only 2 reppu and 2 shiden kai, still crafting.

>> No.11930730

>>11930729
You can probably still get like 200 air superiority.

>> No.11930735

>>11930723
Highest and lowest, though I think I changed the lowest to red, can't really remember what the last combinations I used were.

>> No.11930736

Went through node A and B in 5-3 unscathed, only to go to NE.. twice

>> No.11930737

>>11930730
yeah, bring those 4 grants me 205 air superiority. is that good enough? I have yet to wait for suzuya kai

>> No.11930740

>>11930736
I've never gone to NE, isn't there some compass rule that skips that? 3CLT3DD / 6DD, seems to be easy, especially since they buffed Sonars.

>> No.11930747

>>11930740
D to E/F/I is random if you don't have 3BBs, it's 100% to E if you have 3BB

>> No.11930748

>>11930737
You don't have Mogami?

>> No.11930754

>>11930748
at level 5, why?
I have all ships except yuubari, uzuki, hatsuharu and the LSC craft.

>> No.11930755

>>11930747
Uh, it's not just random, you rarely get to E if you don't have 3 BBs or a CV, it's as likely to occur as if you get diverted away from the boss node when you're at the pre-boss node and your fleet has 2+ DDs.

>> No.11930757

>>11930755
Doesn't make sense since I'm going with 4DD1CL1CA then.

>> No.11930759

>>11930754
hatsukaze, not hatsuharu

>> No.11930760

>>11930754
She's easy to get to level 10 (her remodel level), from there she counts as a CAV and can equip drums.

>> No.11930766

>>11930760
darn... well 2 more level til suzuya kai, better focus on that.

also, do I need 4drums or just 3 drums to run there?

>> No.11930774

>>11930766
It'll be faster to level Mogami from 5 to 10 than Suzuya from 33 to 35 methinks.

You need 4+ drums.

>> No.11930778

>>11930757
Doesn't make sense for? You keep getting to E even with that setup?

>> No.11930784

Good god
Three Shoukaku, two Zuihou, Five Yayoi, Three Kumano, Four Mutsu, One Beaver, Seven Hiei, Two Agano

Is it too much to ask for the turkey?
Give me the goddamn Turkey, game.

>> No.11930790
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11930790

>>11930784
No turkey club.

>> No.11930791

>>11930784
>Three Kumano
All I want is a Kumano and I got two Zuikaku, want to trade?

I wish we could

>> No.11930792

>>11930791
I'll give you three Kumano for one Zuikaku
I'll throw two Mutsu, a Zuihou, two Goya and a Beaver in for good measure.

>> No.11930793

>>11930784
>>11930791
No Uzuki?

You might end up getting 4 Uzukis or something before you get the ship you want.

>> No.11930799

>>11930766
>>11930774
Oh and if you have Yuubari Kai (25+), that works too.

>> No.11930801
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11930801

>>11930793
Zuihou, uzuki, yayoi x 3 and Zuikaku x2
Graduated from the no zuikaku club yesterday and now im the proud owner of a full set of cranes and all the CVs except for taihou.

Just look at that beautiful holo background
Now all I need is Kumano and maybe Agano but im not too interested in her.

>> No.11930805

Alright, my ranking just updated, I'm 379. Would it be safe to leave the house and see my friends tonight, without falling into 501+?

>> No.11930807

>>11930799
I don't have yuubari yet.. melon keep hiding from me

>> No.11930808

>>11930805
You cant be top 500 if you have a life anon, it wont work.

>> No.11930809
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>>11930784
Sound like your normal 5-4 drop.
Today 5-4 drop for my transport daily.

>> No.11930810

>>11930790
What about the no Shoukaku club?

>> No.11930813

>>11930807
Ouch.

Well then just get your Mogami to level 10 or something.

>> No.11930820

>>11930813
lvl10 can survive there?

>> No.11930821
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11930821

>>11930801
>Agano but im not too interested in her.
Bad taste
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22667234

>> No.11930822

>>11930820
As long as you fully mod her, why not?

>> No.11930823

>>11930820
Just get her to 5stars.
Level doesnt mean anything.

>> No.11930824

Sanaechan development is damn slow. It's still working, but <UNKNOWN> expedition title bothers me a lot.

>> No.11930827

>>11930821
I like agano and I tried to get her in her event but im not going to keep running 5-4 for her unless I decide to do it for rank.

Im probably going to get like 5 of her before Kumano anyway, I have been trying for her since my newbie days and she absolutely refuses to drop or be crafted.
My ship collection is almost complete and I still dont have her, maybe we're just not meant to be.

>> No.11930839
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11930839

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=41895304
sasuga bombergrape

>> No.11930840

>>11930827
Good luck anon.

You'll either get her on your next 5-4, or you'll get five Uzukis, four Yayois, three Yukikazes, five Yuubaris, four Suzuyas, four Shoukakus, three Zuikakus, six Zuihous, six Ikus, seven Goyas and seven Mutsus as well as those 5 Aganos before you get her.

>> No.11930841
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>>11930810
I don't know that club.

>> No.11930842

So who else is in the "Have all ships in the game" club?

>> No.11930844

>>11930840
Im almost convinced that I'll get Taihou before Kumano, she just hates me that much.

>> No.11930847

>>11930840
knowing that I could get yuubari there makes me wanted to rush over.

>> No.11930848

>>11930842
I wish, only need Taihou now.

>> No.11930849

>>11930844
Tell us how many Taihous you get before you get Kumano. I'd say maybe 3?

>> No.11930850

>>11930842
Sadly I am still missing Hatsukaze. Fuck you Yahagi.
I have no idea why the devs make Hatsukaze so rare.

>> No.11930868

Boy, I'm glad I got Kumano from the Yamato event, although she sat at lvl 1 for a long time after that until CAVs actually started having some use. I think I got Suzuya from normal BB builds back before LSC when I was trying to get Nagato.

>>11930821
Why are the Aganos so fat?

I have Noshiro sitting at lvl 12 and Agano at 1; when Isuzu, Naka, and Jintsuu Kai 2 all cost less to feed I don't even see any point in using them. Hell, Kiso Kai 2 also costs less fuel and not much more ammo.

>> No.11930869
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>>11930668
5-4 wasn't particularly challenging. I just went with the noobcake 3BB + 3 CLT setup.

Map shows for all 5+ rounds I didn't even deviate from my path.

>> No.11930874

I just need confirmation, does orange fatigue sink your ship? not orange damage.

>> No.11930881

>>11930874
Anon, ships with any level of morale can sink with red health.

>> No.11930882

>>11930874
You shouldn't even be fighting when your ships are fatigued, they'd just eat a bunch of damage and you'd retreat anyway. This is a non-question.

>> No.11930886
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>>11930874
The only thing that can save your ship from sinking is damecon. You actually think orange damage is safe?

>> No.11930892

>>11930886
You know you're ruining the threads and making people ask the same questions over and over and over when you do this annoying wo thing right?

>> No.11930898

>>11930881
>>11930882
Its for those extra subs, using them as damage magnet so I want to know how far can I push them fatigue.. of course at full health.

I have 3 sunken submarine so far.

>> No.11930900

>>11930898
>I have 3 sunken submarine so far.
Kuso teitoku, you don't deserve Iku at all.

>> No.11930901

>>11930868
Because they got almost 20% more displacement than the aging Tenryuu,Kuma and Nagara class,more range and got more space for recon planes which is why they got space for 6 floatplanes. Supposed to have better weapons but suffered from budget cuts.
Wait for Oyodo which will probably eat as much as a CA.

>> No.11930903

just got my fifth Mutsu.
This is reaching Christmas E-2 levels of trolling where I needed 250+ runs to get Nagato

>> No.11930906

>>11930903
To run 5-4? What exactly are you aiming for?

>> No.11930907

>>11930903
Were you seriously expecting Nagato to be handed to you on a silver platter or something?

>> No.11930909

>>11930906
I want Turkey and Uzuki
I'm up to, probably, 30+ runs and haven't seen either but countless damn duplicates

>> No.11930917
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>>11930901
>>11930868
Agano class need a 4th slot buff.
They eat more than naka-chan but have mediocre stats in comparison. Only good for their sex appeal.

>> No.11930921
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>>11930907

>> No.11930923

>>11930917
What's with Yuubari & her 4th slot? I know she was one of experimental ship, but for what purpose?

>> No.11930925

>>11930903
It took me 11 Mutsus before I got my Nagato.

>> No.11930926

>>11930917
I'd say that would be the right move because they were designed with data from Yuubari and supposed to have 8 6.1inch guns

>> No.11930927

>>11930907
silver platter? no
In less than 250 runs? yes

>> No.11930929
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>>11930925
Why wouldn't you just stop when you got the superior BB?

>> No.11930930

>>11930925
Nagato doesn't drop in 5-4, Mutsu didn't drop in E-2.
Unless you farmed on 3-3 or so, you're just bullshitting and 3-3 isn't relevant right now.

>> No.11930931

>>11930923
Yuubari Kai 2, 5th slot.

>>11930929
He probably wants a high luck BB I guess.

>> No.11930932

>>11930923
Experimental ship. Designed to only carry weapons while foregoing speed and armor.
She is basically a proto CA class. Furutaka was designed based on her data.

>> No.11930935

>>11930931
But luck changes nothing but cut-ins which you don't equip BBs for anyway.

>> No.11930937

>>11930930
Because I'm not the guy who was farming in E2 and crafted for them instead you dumb fuck.

>> No.11930938

>>11930935
Every single Nagato I fight in pvp has 3 main guns. Every single time I need to go to night battle those 3 guns give me a cut-in. Annoying as hell but I usually don't need to worry.

>> No.11930943
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11930943

Nope, didn't work in other expeditions. So only the newest ones, I guess.

>> No.11930944

>>11930931
Meant to quote
>>11930917
>>11930926

>> No.11930945
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>>11930929
>>11930925
Should have went big and go for the best BB.
I sortie her since level 60 to try get her damage sprite. She is still going strong at lvl70. At this rate I might not get her sprite until I actually send her on a kamikaze mission.

>> No.11930964

>>11930938
3 Main guns is a waste because you're going to go over the soft cap for firepower, double attack with radar + Type 91 is more effective. Luck really means nothing for CV(L) and BBs. Cut-ins aren't reliable until around 50 luck, though 30/20 luck ships might be good with cut-in set up if a ship in your fleet has a searchlight on them, but double attack on BBs is always the way to go.

>> No.11930979

>>11930964
>a searchlight
If you have multiple searchlights do the effects stack?

>> No.11930987

Is there a better drum recipe thats not 10/10/11/10?

Did that for around 40 tries with DD flagship, result was a lot of penguins and like 5 shitty items.

>> No.11930988

>>11930964
Cut-in setup is actually fine for BBs in night battles because the cap at night is 300.

>> No.11930990

>>11930964
Cut-in is more consistent against hime and flagship TA class. Everything else double attack is sufficient I guess.
Arent you guys pissed off at 4-4 everytime you see a freaking scratch damage double attack?

>> No.11931002

>>11930990
I use Yamato-class so no.

>> No.11931004
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>>11930964
Actually 3 or 4 main guns is really helpful in some maps like 4-4.
You can kill 2 heavy armored enemies in day fight firmly, even in bad situation like 反航戦, defensive formations or 4th node boss.
There was a trend to have 4x 46cm BB for 4-4.
http://kancole.doorblog.jp/archives/36860095.html

My 4-4 fleet had one Kongou class with 4x46, another Kongou class with double attack.

>> No.11931006

>>11930778
Yep

>> No.11931008

somebody save me, 5-3 is being extremely mean to me.

tried 3 CLT, 3 DD fleet, got fucked up. (at none other then the first node)
tried 6 DD, can make it to the boss relatively often but can't kill the sub and when I went line abreast 5/6 of my DDs were hit to red. REALLY.
tried throwing subs at it, but 3 subs is not enough and flagship CL screwed me at the 2nd node.

Read here that somebody recommended Echelon formation, tried that and my ships don't have any firepower, its like they're throwing rocks. ktkm ooi kiso, all attacked a flagship CA and only did chip damage. And it cut in and crit them right back to 1

I just don't know what to do anymore. Is Jintsu kai ni really really needed to be able to clear this? Part of me thinks the spotlight won't do anything significant.

>> No.11931009

>>11931008
5-3 is a hard map, be prepared to spend a lot of resources and buckets there and pray to the RNG goddess.

>> No.11931016

>>11931008
Try 1 Kongou-class, 3CLT, 2DD, both DDs with at least Sonar + ASW. And go into the boss node with either double line or ahead. If you're lucky your CLTs will just opening salvos kill. My DDs were enough to wreck the sub because of sonar buffs.

>> No.11931017

>>11931008
I gave up on doing the futon quest for awhile. I don't like having to deal with 5-3.

>> No.11931018

After five Mutsus and three Naganamis, I got Uzuku
now I only need the Turkey

>> No.11931019

>>11931017
It's 4-3, not 5-3.

>> No.11931021

>>11931008
Keep hitting your head against the wall until the wall breaks. 5-3 is RNG bullshit at its finest. Pray that you make it to the boss in decent shape, and then pray that you shoot at the transport. Beyond having your ships appropriately geared for cut-ins and double attacks, all you can really do is bucket and repeat and keep hoping for that natural 20.

>> No.11931023

>>11931017
Oh, whoops. I read 5-3 as 4-3 for some reason, and put 5-3 in myself.

>> No.11931024

Two A ranks in a row because both carriers decided to miss every single attack
seriously, how the fuck do 80+ carriers miss every single attack

>> No.11931025

>>11931008
I'm working on 5-3 right now with 2x Kongou class 2x CA 2x DD, and I don't have an ASW set-up.
First try: Almost had no damage, CA cut-in was weak.
Second try: Had to retreat because Yukikaze got red.
Third try: Three ships in orange in the boss node, but Maya saved the day to kill the transport ship.

>> No.11931031

>>11931006
Strange, wikiwiki also supports the rarely get to E part, and I personally never got to E before. Maybe it's just RNG for you?

On a side note, they're questioning the "1 carrier will definitely bring you to E" part. Heh.

>>11931008
Don't bother with CLTs' torps, their torps will be useless here. The only use they have for here will be ASW duty. And maybe double attack for night battle but that's it.

Echelon is a defensive formation designed to help you dodge attacks at night, but then they can't do much against cut-ins. Maybe they reduce the chance of enemy cut-ins or something?

Try ring formation if you use 6 DDs, let flagship be Bep and have her hold 3 ASW equips. That should be enough to sink the sub. If you want you can try cut-in on all your other DDs; if that's the case use Yuudachi, Ushio, Kasumi in addition to Shigure and Yukikaze (who should always have cut-in setup). If you want to stick to double attack use Yuudachi, Shimakaze and... one filler I guess.

Or you can follow what I did and use this fleet: >>11928965
Though it only works from around 7-9 am JST, on Thursdays I guess, because things were going really smooth sailing then. In fact, second run was no damage run up till the boss node.

>> No.11931032

>>11931025

the flagship CAs actually cutting in and doing chip damage is extremely rare.

I fear them more then i fear RU or Ta class cut in because they always do jack shit.

>> No.11931033

fucking 5-4 is bleeding me dry
and my carriers are being colossal whores by not hitting anything, two boss battles in a row
The final boss version sometimes near impossible to S rank because everyone decides to do scratch damage to everything

>> No.11931035

>>11931025
It took me about 10-12 tries today with 3CLT and 3DD, CLTs are Lv120+, DDs are Lv80+. I could mostly get to the boss node, but sometimes I killed the SS too late because of T-crossed, or just going into night battle and whiffing.

Had to bring a Kongou (-DD) on the last try for the Final Boss kill, because it a got a bit harder.

>> No.11931038

>>11931025
Just use 4 CA if you're ignoring the sub.

>> No.11931039

>>11931008
I found that Double Line worked much better than Echelon, so you could try that. Line abreast on the boss and then pray one of your ships will hit the transport boss in night battle.

>> No.11931040

I've probably S-ranked 5-4 about 20 times, I've only been getting Kongou-classes.

I got a Yuubari from an A-rank though.

>> No.11931044
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so people like this exist, HQ lvl 5 with resources over 50k++ & 50k DMM points, have all LSC ships but only 2 fleets

>> No.11931046

>>11931044

What is even the point?

>> No.11931049

>>11930892
You know there is a glitch that drops orange ships to red between nodes?

>> No.11931050

>>11931046
To post epic screenshots like that on the internet. Probably a rich guy with no other goals in life.

>> No.11931053

>>11931044
Probably an Arab prince or a Yakuza/Zaibatsu owner's NEET son.

>> No.11931054

>>11931044
Dev account to con people into buying 4docks.

>> No.11931055

>>11931044
How do they even unlock LSC with only 2 fleets?

>> No.11931065

>>11931031

so far double attack setup has been pointless for me. Always chip damage, ALWAYS. i moved most of my DDs to cutin setup because at least shit gets done.

I would use my beaver but I got her really really late(during my rush to craft hachi, I got her) and she's only level 15. she just kept on getting pushed down the priority ladder.

I've tried multiple CAs before, but once again double attack setup is just not working, I'm really angry at just how often double attack setup is only doing 2's or 5's instead of outright destroying it like it does in just about every other night battle i've done. (see : every night battle not in 5-3)

Currently got Shigure, Poi, shimakaze, murasame, shiratsuyu +1 filler DD

its the best i can do with my current fleet availability, this is also the fleet that has reached the boss node the most.

>> No.11931071

>>11931065
Use the first formation if you dont want to see scratch damage.
.

>> No.11931075
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>>11931044
And this is his future.

>> No.11931086
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I want to feel bad for Chikuma but I can't.

>> No.11931087
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>>11931086

Poor Kinugasa, no love.

>> No.11931089

>>11931049
Not exactly an issue until we have Fog lasers back in the game.

>>11931071
Personally I just used line ahead with 6 DDs and double attack on everything under 50 luck. Afterwards I kept seeing people saying echelon echelon echelon and was wondering if I might have wasted a bunch of buckets, but this anon's results make me think I made the right choice (at the very least, I rarely ever lost a battle so I was getting more xp and less fatigue). I experimented with echelon back in E-2 where I used a sub to draw most enemy fire but even then it didn't seem like it helped me dodge more and I just went back to double line.

>> No.11931093

Haven't hear anything about that searchlight until now. Does it really help to diminish enemy cut-ins?

>> No.11931095

>>11931086
Why is Kinugasa so low

>> No.11931097

>>11931086
Myoukou should be a lot higher.

>> No.11931109

>>11931097
Unless you start drawing more of her and post it on pixiv, she won't be going anywhere higher.

>> No.11931110

>>11931086
>Hagure not dead last

>> No.11931111

>>11931086
Despite the Atago totals, it's felt like her relative popularity has gone way down in recent months (unlike the early days where it was all Shimakaze and Atago). Nor do I recall seeing very much Haguro recently.

Choukai's unpopularity continues to make me sad though. Also funny that she has the highest ratio of porn outside the top 4.

I want to see some destroyer results, although you can get some skewed numbers there. I recall seeing an old chart that had Mutsuki as the second-most popular Mutsuki-class, which made no sense at all until I realized that it was picking up her name in the tag "Mutsuki-class", when the actual images were only of the more popular Yadokari ones.

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>>11931109
Considering her popularity in futaba, her low pixiv ranking is regrettable.

>> No.11931127

>>11931114

I want those Sendai dolls.

>> No.11931128

>>11931114
Her destroyed sprite kind of says everything you need to know. You can't change perfection. It would be down right blasphemous to even try to.

>> No.11931131

3 no-sparkle full-drum in expedition 21, one of them is only normal success. Guess the great success rate isn't that reliable. Still no more detail from japs?

>> No.11931134

>>11931131
Did you try running it with drums on all slots?

>> No.11931141

>>11931134
No, but in futaba there's one full-drum fleet in expedition 21, and still normal success was the one he got.

>> No.11931146

>>11931131
Yeah, I tried it two times with 4 ships with drums plus 2 sparkle DDs and only got normal success.
Maybe drums give lower chance for great success than sparkled ships

>> No.11931158
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11931158

Scamco pls.

>> No.11931169

>>11931158
Kisaragi
Hibiki
Kitakami Reika
Shizuka Mogami

Looks like they're willing to do anything for money.

>> No.11931170

>>11931158
So what you got when won?

>> No.11931171

>>11930715
Are those japs eating their cute shipdaughters?

>> No.11931175

>>11930482
Can someone confirm that it's 9PM JST?

>> No.11931179

What the fuck am I supposed to do with 6 Yuubari, I don't have the strength to throw away a gold background

>> No.11931197

>>11931179
You dont scrap carriers, kongous and nagatos?

>> No.11931232

Should I be farming for bauxite on 2-2 or 4-3.

>> No.11931234

>>11931087
I like Kinugasa. She's my second highest CA, to Tone. She is qt as fuck, will always have a special place in my fleet (Namely, when I'm too broke to bring out a BB but need someone who can hit)

>> No.11931239

>>11931158
im@s has got to stick its grubby fingers into everything.

>> No.11931246

>>11928993
Finally cleared 3-2, you guys didn't lie when said that the boss node was easy to S rank. Only gotten Mogami though.

For 3-3 and 3-4 is 4BB and 2 CV really the best way to brute force it and hoping to get to boss node, like others mention in this thread?

>> No.11931248

>>11931246
yes

>> No.11931251

>>11931246
no

>> No.11931252

>>11931246
maybe

>> No.11931253

>>11930488
There's a group of people who record their exp of each sortie around these (supposed) last check time .
As the ranking point you get from last check to 0AM will remain as a part of starting points next month. They can guess when the last check was happen.
(TotalEXP/50000) + points you get since last check = starting points.

>>11931175
As they do these jobs sequentially, there's some lags depend on your server.
On my 4th server, it usually finish like 21:00-22:00 JST.
I dunno how long it delays on those newer servers.
They had to start it on 11PM last month because of emergency maintenance.

>> No.11931254

>>11931246
3-3 you should just do 3CLT, 1CA/DD/BB, 1CVL, 1CV.

>> No.11931255

>>11931197
I usually use them for modernization a week after I got them. I can't even bring myself to get rid of LSC scraps most of the time.

Still no Nagato, though.

>> No.11931256

>>11931179
3 for expeditions. 2 for rotating. 1 for modernisation.

>> No.11931258
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So how's the rankings on your server?
500th on Rabaul has 605 points.
Will we see 3k points with the easy 5-4 next time? Or maybe 4k?

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Fucking finally. I was about to give up and just try again tomorrow, but I persisted a little longer. Handful of retreats because cut-ins raped my ass, and I had to put damecon on them even though it's useless. It actually kinda worked, and Haruna was the only one who got into orange. Now I know the pain of getting Hachi in E-4 despite I got her in 15 tries. 5-4, here I come.

>> No.11931261

>>11931258
1st on Tawi Tawi has 2222 whereas 500th has 522. What a lax server,

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>> No.11931264

>>11931258
3k is most probable, but 4k is quite unlikely. The problem is cutoff for 500th, it could be as high as 1k.

>> No.11931265

>>11931258
Brunei is 574 for top 500 but that's now closer to 600 I would bet
top 100 is 878
top 20 is 1241
top 3 is 1974

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>>11931262
泊地棲鬼 needs more love.

>> No.11931272

>>11931260
Damecons have always warded off crits.

>> No.11931273

>>11931258
I'm in Hitokkapu.
Top 3 cut-off - 2096
Top 500 cut-off - 438

>> No.11931275

>>11931272
Maybe that's true, but I'll use it from now on. I think I'm going to buy Repair Goddess instead.

>> No.11931284

>>11931261
I have 539. Just did 5 5-4runs.
Should we enough right? If I go out and do normalfag activities now I should be able to maintain my rank right?

>> No.11931289

>>11931273
what a ridiculously low top 500 cut-off

>> No.11931292

>>11931284
I wouldn't know, I'm somewhere at 491 to 500 and I'm doing 10 5-4 runs. 6 runs of 5-4 catapulted me 60 places ahead yesterday though, so I can't really tell.

Well it shouldn't be as bad as the top 100 positions, I had to do 10 runs of 5-2 and 10 runs of 4-2 everyday for the last week of January.

>> No.11931293

>>11931284
I dropped 8 ranks in top 100 after doing 20~ runs

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>> No.11931446

>>11931443
That R-18 rate on Chiyoda..

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>>11931254
Thanks you, end up using 1 CLT, 1 CA, 2CV and 2 BB though, fortunately my fleet go straight to the boss node.

For 3-4 I used 4BB 2CV, fortunately again only need a couple of tries and got Uzuki at boss node

>> No.11931460

How in the world is it possible for two lone ships to T-cross each other?

>> No.11931463

>>11931460
Perpendicular engagement?

>> No.11931465

>>11931460
One ship's side faces the other ship's front or back.

>> No.11931476

>>11931460
why wouldn't it be possible?

>> No.11931479

Is 4-4 difficult? Did you guys use 2DDs and 1CA in your 4-4 clearing comp?

>> No.11931486

>>11931479
Easy to clear. S ranking is difficult because of trollsub.

>> No.11931487

>>11931479
Of course not, why trust the wiki? Clearly those people who uses the wiki as reference must be liars too, right?

>> No.11931488

>>11931479
I used fogs like Shiba admiral.

>> No.11931494

>>11931487
Wo pls.

>> No.11931507

Famitsu's live program on nicovideo has just finished.
Their editor guy (always leaks some info) suggests us to finish all long SS expeditions before foreign ship update.
He also implies that devs are preparing something which we can easily expect as their 1 year anniversary (23th April).

So, Midway will be golden week event?

>> No.11931510

>>11931507
I really hope they don't add a week long expedition.

>> No.11931514

>>11931507
1 year anniversary is probably a re-release of all previous events

>> No.11931511

>>11931507
Good thing I'm done with long expeditions.

>> No.11931516

>>11931511
Same. At least she won't be in LSC hell.

>> No.11931518

>>11931507
Fuck, and here I was hoping I could completely ignore the long expeditions now they gave us another exped 5 with nigh-permanent sparkles

>> No.11931520

>>11931514
that would be complete chaos and despair

>> No.11931523

>>11931507
So two months? still got some time to craft Taihou, good.

>> No.11931530

>>11931507
May/June is what some people guessed from the beginning

>> No.11931538

>>11931494
Retard pls.

>> No.11931559

>>11931538
Why is Wo trying to call others retards, now? As if spreading misinformation wasn't enough?

First they try to convince us either rankings reset early or February has 27 days this year for some odd reason, and now this?

>> No.11931562

>>11931507
Kind of related to this post, I can't read moon so could you guys help me out as our English wiki has a terrible expeditions page?

While getting junkers I skipped exp 26, as it didn't unlock anything.
On the final page, I haven't done any expeditions, after 33 are there long expeditions?Does expedition 26 unlock 30-32?

>> No.11931569

>>11928931
Poor melon-chan

>> No.11931576

>>11931562
the info you seek is on the english wiki, go read it.

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>>11931562

>> No.11931583

>>11931576
Oh, it seems someone updated the rewards chart today, cool.

However my last question isn't answered , do you happen to know the answer to it?

>>11931581
Sorry, I can tell you went through the trouble of going to that page and snipping the chart for me but I don't have any idea what that means.

>> No.11931593

>>11931581
There's expedition numbers m8. Right side is the condition, left is which expeditions get unlocked.

>> No.11931596

>>11931593
meant to quote >>11931583

>> No.11931601

>>11931596
Thanks a bunch, that's very helpful.

Going to send a fleet to 26 today then, probably going to be important I guess.

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>> No.11931630

>>11931614
Why is Tenryuu so popular?

>> No.11931642

>>11931630
Tenryuu class are often the first CLs that TTKs get, so they're easy to get attached to. That, and Tenryuu has a nice design, both personality and appearance-wise.

>> No.11931665

>>11931614
Kuma the purest.

>> No.11931678

>>11931443
Akagi's R-18 is super low because half of her fanart are food jokes

>> No.11931689

>>11931630
They're the most popular amongst secondaries.

>> No.11931731

>>11931630
She is a ship that everyone get. Most accessible since everyone will get her on the first day. Secondaries might not have the stomach of playing a super RNG raging game past the first week.

I can see why the devs actually give rare ships to newbies, it is so they actually keep playing.

>> No.11931737

>>11931443
I wonder if Hiyou's popularity will increase with her updated art and all. She's really lovely now, and I think I'm in love.

>> No.11931753

>>11931642
>>11931689
>>11931731
I see. I like Tatsuta more. She's my 2nd CL (1st one is Kuma), and I have been using them for expedition ever since. Tenryuu came a few days later but I've never used her.

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>ドラム缶装備3隻(C経由ルート)でM固定?(要検証)
>Bから来るとほぼNに向かう様子
Did anyone verify the claim that you can go from L->M if you take the bottom route with 3drums?
Might be able to do the map without using carriers.

>> No.11931810

>>11931789
i didn't try it but it looks pretty annoying with two night battles and a node that can spawn subs half the time.

>> No.11931872

Just heard the Mochizuki's MVP line for the first time.
My poor sides

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>>11931630
because reasons

>> No.11932167

Is there a drum crafting chart by the japs already? I need to know which recipe is the one with best odds to spam.

>> No.11932170

>>11931559
Don't get mad at other people just because you're too retarded to check the wiki.

>> No.11932178

>>11932167
what's wrong with 10 all?

>> No.11932180

>>11932170
I already did, and boy was it agonising, checking a wiki made, edited and updated by Wos, for retards.

>> No.11932184

>>11932178
I don't know, has there been enough reports of success with it?

>> No.11932192

>>11932184
you can get it with it, unless you believe in miracle recipes adding more resources will only increase the pool of possible items you could get

>> No.11932202

>>11932192
I guess I will give it a try later.

>> No.11932221

>>11932202
be prepared for many penguins

>> No.11932236

>>11932221
Penguins are better than any other failed result with 10all.

>> No.11932380

Well, my first 10all try was a drum already.

>> No.11932399

>>11932380
Aaand it took me another 4 tries to get another, well that was easy.

>> No.11932400

>>11932380
Flagship?

>> No.11932402

>>11932400
Level 76 Verniy, HQ level 100, no sparkles.

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