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Take responsibility, even if it isn't mine.

>>11912864
"I assure you I cannot possibly be the father... but if you want me to father your child, it can be arranged."

>>11912912
Smooth talker, aren't you?

>>11912912
and then you pull out a bowl of eggs?

B-but we're both girls!

Aya has a family?

>>11912950

>>11912864
B-but i'm a virgin!

>>11912864
Question, am I actually her child's father?

>>11913082
No, Rinnosuke is.

>>11912864

>>11913082
Depends.

>>11912950
>>11913006
i don't get it...

>>11914078
She's a bird.
Birds lay eggs.

what do /b/ros

>>11912864
Impossible. Vampires are undead, and she's below the age of puberty.

>>11914073
what do you mead "depends"?

>>11914162
I thought it was this meme

>>11914078
From a Doujin where Utsuho eats eggs and believes in the superstition about eating a certain amount of eggs curses the consumer or something.

>>11915505
ppl on /v/ r so funny!

>>11915505
>meme
>>>/out/

>>11915423
>implying vampires are sterile
>or implying vampire can't grow old by not drinking blood for a while
Re-read Dracula. It's explained he grow younger when he drinks blood.

I find Rinnosuke and pop an everlovin' cap in his ass.

Real talk.

>>11915590
It's only natural to provide constant blood so she'll stay a child forever.

I think I would cry because I really love my favorite touhou and it would really hurt if she got pregnant with another persons child

>>11915606
Oh no, oh no, oh no,
Yo yo yo
Oh no you didn't
Sucka tried to play me
But you never paid me
Never
Oh no you didn't
Payback is a' comin
You will be' runnin forever

Oh no you didn't
Until i get my vengeance
I'll never end this mayhem
Oh no you didn't
I'm a shopkeeper
You ain't got a prayer
You owe me
Oh no you didnt(5x)
Didnt you oh no
You didn't pay me what you owe me
So now its over for you
First you tried to trap me
Then bust a cap in my ass
Oh no you didnt
Such humilation will bring
Annihilation at last
Oh no you didn't
It will be delicious when I
Get vicious tomorrow
Oh no you didn't
There are no second chances
You will do the dance of sorrow
Oh no you didnt(5x)
Didnt you oh no
You didnt pay me wat you owe me
So now it's over for you
Better watch your back boy keep runnin'
This ain't a game I'll never stop comin'
I got my arsenal, I put out the call
and when I'm finished yo
you will be a ragdoll
fool tried to dis me
now you're gonna wish you were dead
oh no you didn't
after I deliver
your blood will be a river of red
oh no you didn't
better be aware when
no ones there to defend you
oh no you didn't
so many ways to kill
it's gonna be a thrill to end you
oh no you didnt(5x)
didn't you oh no
you didnt pay me what you owe me
so now its over for yoooooooouuuuuuuuu
oh no, oh no, oh no
oh no you didn't !

>>11915629
I love that game!

>>11915647
Never played it. But I like the song.

>>11912864
Who are you quoting?

>>11916821
>XDDD funny meme

>>11916859
Hahaha I can't STOP laughing mannn!!!!!!!!! XD XD XD DONT H8 ME CUZ IM FREE!

Tell 'em to prove it. Just 'cause I'm the new guy doesn't mean they get to blame me for everything.

>>11913006

If you kill yourself in Gensokyo where does the portal go?

>>11916883

Balamb Garden.

>>11912864
show them my V-card what else?

That's impossible for me, OP.
I'm a magician.

;_;

I would cry from happiness ;_;

I shall do everything I can to make their lives happy.

>>11912864
We're getting married whether her family wants it or not and I'm making sure that I'm a father of every child she's having from now on.
It's not like she my favourite touhou for no reason, you know.
As for the current situation, abort unless it's too late or she's against the idea.

>>11917767
You have to realize that this means your favorite touhou has taken the dick of at least one another man. I'd refuse and instead kill her lover, have her abort the child and then suicide.

>>11918130
>I'd refuse and instead kill her lover, have her abort the child and then suicide.
You are a bad person.

>>11912864
What if my favorite touhou has no family?

>>11918457
Then her friends.

>>11918480
Whelp, I guess its time to live in a Shinto Shrine.

>>11918492
>dat former hakurei miko
;_;

>>11918493
Why the fuck did she never train Reimu? Reimu was practically thrown into the wolves when she was forced to start resolving incidents.

>>11918495
Reimu ran away, that's why her training isn't complete.

>>11918500
Ran away? From what, the nonexistent other border shrine in gensukyo? And I don't think she had any training at all.

>>11918501
The Hakurei Shrine is where she works, that doesn't mean she's forced to live here. That's just more convenient for her.

>>11918503
If she had lived in the human village beforehand and ran away, wouldn't she stay away from the village/

>>11918505
And that's why she lives in her shrine.
Kinda like Marisa who ran away from home and lives in the Forest, and yet still visites the village once in a while.

>>11918506
That headcanon actually makes some good sense.

Looking okuu smile in op picture makes me cry ;_;
i know it's not my children but i would suport her and then make child with her.
I wish i can find my way to Gensokyou

>>11918506
But Marisa was raped

Question biology followed by blaming Meiling.

>>11918510
And it also allows me to think that the Former Hakurei Miko was nice, but extremely brutal while raising Reimu.
And I like that kind of woman, all scarred, but still able to love, just unsure how to show that love.


>>11918522
Fanfiction.

>>11918510
Spanked Reimu is best Reimu.

And I prefer that to the "her mother got killed so she's orphan" headcanon.

>>11918539
That would explain Reimu's problems with opening her heart, and why she has such an interesting view on treating everyone the same.
>>11918547
Little Reimu fan, eh?

>>11918549
Actually, yeah, that would make more sense.
If her mother treated her roughly, that would explain that.

But it would also mean that all Hakurei are more or less retarded when it's about love. I don't want to talk about autism, but between a mother that doesn't know how to show her love to her daughter and said daughter who doesn't love anyone, it's going to be troublesome to make a heir to the bloodline.
But I think Reimu would make a good mother. She would probably never raise her hand against her own child.

>>11918549
Not really of the serie, but rather in a general way.
It always annoys me a bit to see a young Reimu with Yukari, because I like to think Yukari acts like an imaginary friend to the Hakurei miko, watching from afar, playing a bit and getting to know the miko, but not getting too emotionally involved.

>>11918560
Reimu would treat her child the same as everyone else, be unable to properly train the child, said child would be in contact with the most dangerous beings in Gensukyo, Reimu wouldn't keep dangerous Youkai away from the shrine and the child would be in danger of being influence/kidnapped by about a dozen dangerous individuals, and said child would be held to the standard of a person who can fly away from reality and is only matched by a legendary border youkai, Lunarians with technology several tiers above modern spec, and the Dragon God.

Poor child.

>>11918572
No.
Giving birth is too important on a physical and psychical way to have Reimu just saying "meh, it looks ugly and it's loud".

People tend to forget this, but abortion isn't something easy. So, keeping the child until the end and keeping it is bound to affect the woman.

>>11918572
(Same guy)
Also, I like the idea of Reimu being an overprotective mother. It suits my personal headcanon too much.

>>11918578
Even if she treated the child the best she had ever treated anyone, that would still be below normal, and all the other problems would still exist.

Remember, Reimu's special ability is flying, which manifests itself in flying away from reality and keeping her heart seperate from reality.

>>11918584
You mean the guy I was replying to? You aren't me.

>>11918589
What I meant is that I posted both >>11918578 and >>11918584

And I think you're bullshitting me with >>11918586.

>>11918592
Look it up, Reimu's special ability is literally "ability to float". Like Yukari's border manipulation, its quite a bit more powerful than stated.

>>11918596
Yes, she can fly. However, the part about if being a "manifests itself in flying away from reality and keeping her heart seperate from reality" is either your personal headcanon (which contradicts mine, and is therefore wrong because I'm always right), either total bull feces.

>>11918599
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Reimu_Hakurei

The "keeping heart seperate from reality" is more me being showy with words and headcanony, but the flying away from reality is true.

>>11912864
I'm a girl, so I don't know how I could be a father?

Maybe Yuyuko's family is confused?

>>11918604
>I'm a girl, so I don't know how I could be a father?
>implying that ever stopped anyone of creating families
Check your privileges, 120 social justice fighters died of anger when reading your post.

>>11918605
And just because she can flies, she can't take care of a child, even if she tries hard?
I doubt that, for many reasons :
-if that description is correct, that flying away from reality only applies when she's really working,
-there's still the husband (you) to take care of the kids and protect it from trouble. Granted, you can't do much against youkai, but it's a start,
-I really doubt you forget a child, even if you're high as fuck (pun intended).

Reimu as a overprotective mother is my headcanon.

>>11918627
I feel like we are having two different arguments at the same time.

But yeah, Reimu would probably at least have some personality shift from pregnancy.

>>11918639
She would already need a personality shift before.
You don't let someone you don't love fuck you.

But I'm not going to write an entire fanfic called "You enter in Gensokyo and fall in love with Reimu".
But I would like to.

>>11918642
I dunno, doesn't Gensukyo have more traditional views on stuff because of when and where it was made? Also, Yukari would probably try and make sure the Hakurei line would continue and maybe start fucking things up with her powers if necessary.

>>11918652
Thinking about it like that, it would make sense to Yukari to marry Reimu to an outside. To avoid any risk of inbreeding.
Dunno, it depends if you think of the Hakurei as moron, or as smart.

Either they go "pure blood must stay in the family, diluting it will be troublesome", or they go "we need new blood to avoid risk".

Keep in mind that most villagers are themselves descendants of youkai hunters.

Shit, I dunno. Yukari is probably smarter and would try to avoid the inbreeding problem, but I doubt Reimu would let her butt in her sex business.
Depends from your headcanon.


FUCK, even when I try to clear things up, I only create more possible interpretations of the same thing.
That's why Touhou is annoying and awesome.

>>11918668
Now I wonder how Yukari would go about trying to be matchmaker to optimize the Hakurei line for being good Youkai hunters. And she would do that, considering how she treats Ran.

>>11918674
>considering how she treats Ran
And I though the Hakurei Miko's treatment of Reimu was already brutal enough. I'm shivering in anticipat- I MEAN FEAR.


I guess Yukari would try to go for a promising outsider who's skilled at hunting youkai. That way, he would bring new blood, while being competent enough to protect the shrine is Reimu falls. Not to mention that a competent youkai-hunter would attract Reimu's attention. And he would also be easy to manipulate. Just say "that's how we do in Gensokyo".

>>11918694
How do we know what would attract Reimu's attention? Is her Canon personality fleshed out enough for that?

But yeah, Yukari would probably pick someone who has good blood & skills, but is easy to manipulate. Then again, she manipulates practically everything in Gensukyo. She is what Kanako wishes she could be.

>>11918703
>Then again, she manipulates practically everything in Gensukyo
No, that's fanon.
Kinda like Yukari constantly butting in Reimu's business. That's also fanon.

And Reimu's personality is apparently quite easy-going (if the books are reliable, of course), but the games give me the feeling she doesn't like thinking.

I wonder who the Mother was

Did I stick my dick in a bucket?

>>11918707
>Yukari deals with problems by manipulating others to act to resolve things for her. She seems to rarely act directly except in particularly egregious situations.
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Yukari_Yakumo

Also, she does quite a bit of manipulation when she shows up in the Manga.

>>11918716
That doesn't really explain why you never see her or even feel her influence until her dramatic apparition in PCB.
Incidentally, that little fact is also why it always bothers me to see a young Reimu with an older Yukari.

>>11918707
Yes, Yukari manipulates everything in Gensokyo. Did you miss, like, her every appearance ever?

A mysterious corpse appears? Yukari shows up, checks her records to see it's not someone missing from the human village, then covers the whole thing up.
Reimu and Marisa find some strange tower in the forest? Yukari immediately shows up to check. Oh, and she's been eavesdropping on Reimu all this time.
Zashiki-warashi leave their homes? It's Yukari sending them to the outside world. Oh, and they've been spying for her all this time.
etc, etc.

>>11918761
Only post-PCB. Like I said in >>11918722.

Still doesn't affect my headcanon at all, Yukari mind public business, but wouldn't interfere in Reimu's love affairs.

>>11918766
ZUN put everything pre-EoSD on a permanent "if it contradicts later writing, it's retconned" status, though.

>>11918785
Yeah, and? EoSD still happened before PCB and does not bear Yukari's meddling mark at all.

>>11918761
>Yukari manipulates everything in Gensokyo
Yeah.
2 new gods come to Gensokyo? Yukari is nowhere to be seen.
Flying ships in the sky? Yeah, whatever, Yukari is probably just busy with more important stuff.
Divine spirits everywhere? Where the fuck is Yukari, did she die or something?
An even when youkai were starting rebellion Yukari didn't do a thing.

Yukari is overrated.

>>11918787
It features a certain powerful vampire that Yukari first pacified, which fights by the spellcard rules that Yukari invented to let it blow off steam by starting incidents.

Yes, that's from later writing, but it still concerns EoSD.

>>11918804
>vampire that Yukari first pacified
Headcanon
>spellcard rules that Yukari invented
Headcanon
>to let it blow off steam by starting incidents.
Headcanon

>>11918804
Yeah.
Except that it's Reimu who created the spellcard rules. And the "Yukari pacified her", I... I don't even need to comment it, since you admit it was written later.

Or even worse than that, it means that DESPITE Yukari pacifying Remi, she still unleashed that fog, and Yukari was still nowhere to be seen.

>>11918500
Is the hakurei miko really kicks ass, that shit must hurt.

>>11918810
>>11918812
Guys, please, read Perfect Memento before posting.

>>11918798
Apparently those events were not of her concern, yes. And I don't see why would they, except the last one perhaps.

>>11918830
>Apparently those events were not of her concern, yes.
There you go. If these events are "not of her concern", I highly doubt Reimu's sexual life is her concern as well.

>>11918840
You aren't arguing with the same person who was talking about Yukari messing with the Hakurei line.

>>11918844
Then I won't waste my time talking with you since it's amplifying the risk of me forgetting what my point was when the argument started.

My headcanon stands untouched. You have failed.

>>11918851
That wasn't the point, I wasn't trying to change someone else's headcanon. Sorry I derailed the thread, but it was a pretty good discussion.

>>11918830
I read PMiSS. And now I ask you to qoute it to support your arguments. I can even give you the links. You just need to ctrl+f "yukari" and post it here.

Vampire incident:
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento_in_Strict_Sense/Reimu_Hakurei
I don't see any mention of Yukari.

Spell card rules:
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento_in_Strict_Sense/Draft_of_Spell_Card_Rules
Ctrl+F Yukari gives zero result again.

Spell card rules and incidents?
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento_in_Strict_Sense/Reimu_Hakurei
I don't see anything about "youkai start incidents to blow off steam". And actually there were only two incidents so far that can be considered as "youkai blowing off steam" - EoSD's and DDC's ones.

>>11918844
This is true, however...

>>11918840
It might if Gensokyo's existence depends on it. And depending on Hakurei bloodline's importance, it actually could.

>>11918857
Good, I get to keep my brutal but loving former hakurei miko.
Is there a name for that? It's not a yandere, not a cooldere, not a tsundere. More like a brutaldere.

>>11918865
I honestly don't think the Hakurei miko have only one child. I don't see Reimu having a brother or a sister, but a cousin, however...

>>11918858
I lol'd so hard,

>>11918858
>I don't see any mention of Yukari.

So who do you propose is the youkai sage mentioned therein?

>Ctrl+F Yukari gives zero result again.

So who do you propose gave Reimu the draft? It's the same person as above, too (unless they simply use the same paper vendor).

>I don't see anything about "youkai start incidents to blow off steam".

Did you Ctrl+F for the exact phrase or something?

>>11918882
>So who do you propose gave Reimu the draft?
The kannushi of course.

>>11918887
...can't argue with that.

>>11918889
Of course. Before deciding of my headcanon, I actually do the research and make theories. Theories are fun.

But creating a headcanon justifying every picture depicting Reimu being spanked by her mother is awesome. And feels good, too.

>>11918882
>So who do you propose is the youkai sage mentioned therein?
There's nothing about "sage" there as well. PMiSS mentions "powerful youkai" and it's not even clear from translation if it's singular or plural.
But actually I think it was Letty Whiterock and Wriggle.

>So who do you propose gave Reimu the draft?
No one. Some youkai just gave her a pice of paper because Reimu didn't have one. How about that?

>Did you Ctrl+F for the exact phrase or something?
Can you quote at least something then? No? I can:
>As it would be dangerous for any youkai to defeat the Hakurei shrine maiden, many youkai felt that their existences had become meaningless. And so the spell card rules were introduced.
It clearly says that Spell Card rules were created to protect Hakurei shrine maiden. Youkai now can duel her without fear to accidentally kill her.

>>11918901
I'm not intending to stop you, but a spanking of a Touhou by another Touhou should never require justification.

>>11918912
What you seem to have missed is how:

>a settlement was reached through a contract that placed a number of prohibitions on the vampire's activities.
(note that this is a mistranslation and the original does not specifically mention a vampire, just that various things were banned, period)
>Some of the more willful youkai found these terms distasteful and entered into discussions with the Hakurei shrine maiden.
>The shrine maiden, who was also tiring of an uneventful lifestyle, agreed to the youkai point of view that some battles were necessary.
>The result of this were the spell card rules

>>11918931
How does it prove your point? Battles =/= incidents. It just repeats what I've already said before: Youkai now can duel her [shrine maiden] without fear to accidentally kill her.
I doubt those agreements allowed usage of chemical weapon that could wipe out all the human population of Gensokyo.

But I'm glad that you agreed with facts that Yukari didn't pacify Remilia and she didn't create Spell Card rules.

>>11918951
>Battles =/= incidents.

If you're looking for a mention of incidents, it's in the rules themselves.

>It just repeats what I've already said before

No, it doesn't, and more importantly what you said in no way negates what I said.

>But I'm glad that you agreed with

I just skipped the parts where you were clearly joking.

>>11918976
>If you're looking for a mention of incidents, it's in the rules themselves.
Please quote it then. I ask you about that for 4 posts in a row. For a quote that proves your arguments.

>No, it doesn't, and more importantly what you said in no way negates what I said.
Yes, it does, unless you're are retarded and can understand the meaning of a simplest sentence. How hard is to make a connection between two paragraphs?
>As it would be dangerous for any youkai to defeat the Hakurei shrine maiden, many youkai felt that their existences had become meaningless. And so the spell card rules were introduced.
>Some of the more willful youkai found these terms distasteful and entered into discussions with the Hakurei shrine maiden. The shrine maiden, who was also tiring of an uneventful lifestyle, agreed to the youkai point of view that some battles were necessary. The result of this were the spell card rules
Also, did Yuyuko start incident to "blow steam off"?
Did Eirin start incident to "blow steam off"?
Did Kanako start incident to "blow steam off"?
Did Byuakuren start incident to "blow steam off"?
Did Miko start incident to "blow steam off"?

>I just skipped the parts where you were clearly joking.
Jesus fuck, You're indeed retarded. I clearly said that there is no mentions about Yukari. It's just your speculation. Your _headcanon_. And you failed to prove me wrong using any official material.

>>11918915
It does not, yeah.

However, just like doujins are better when there's an actual backstory instead of just rape by faceless goons, I enjoy thinking of a possible justification.

>>11919011
Not who you're answering to, but...
>Also, did Yuyuko start incident to "blow steam off"?
Unleash a dangerous youkai cherry tree. Granted, she wasn't aware it was dangerous, but it coulda turned bad.
>Did Eirin start incident to "blow steam off"?
Protect Gensokyo from the moon. Nothing much here, it was mostly to protect her own ass.
>Did Kanako start incident to "blow steam off"?
A small revolt against an outsider bossing people around.
>Did Byuakuren start incident to "blow steam off"?
To be honest, that one wasn't started by Byakuren but rather by Ichirin/Shou/Murasa.
>Did Miko start incident to "blow steam off"?
Resurrection. The whole incident thing was also accidentally.

So yeah, most of these were accidentally and went out of proportion, but they're not just to blow steam off, they're mostly side-effects of something else and don't concern Gensokyo at first.


HOWEVER, SA is literrally about blowing Steam off. Granted, it's more sinister once you get to the bottom of this (har har har).

>>11919011
I'm not even sure what you want quoted now, or why you can't find it in a text that has like ten sentences. I'm also not sure what room for misunderstanding the idea of battles being necessary leave. I don't even know what all those people you mention have to do with Remilia and the establishment of the spellcard rules. They weren't even in Gensokyo at the time (and those that were kept themselves hidden and away from its politics).

>It's just your speculation.

If you want to play the "not explicitly stated" card, be aware I have Ockham on my side, and the guy means business, just look at the razor in his hand.

Can we go back to discussion how Reimu got spanked by her mother? I think I prefer that discussion, people were more polite.

>>11919057
>I'm not even sure what you want quoted now
In the last post I asked you to quote "mention of incidents, it's in the rules themselves".
Here are the rules:
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento_in_Strict_Sense/Draft_of_Spell_Card_Rules
I don't see anything about incidents. So you clearly was saying about some other article. I'm asking to quote it.

>If you want to play the "not explicitly stated" card, be aware I have Ockham on my side
So you again agree that it was your speculation and headcanon. It's OK.

>>11919068
>how Reimu got spanked by her mother?
With a hand

>>11919068
Thats because talking about why a character may or may not be emotionally broken and have a hard time raising & training a child isn't as big a topic as the binding contract that control's Yukari's toybox Gensukyo.

>>11919081
B-but I like the Hakurei Miko...

>>11919089
So do I, but I don't want go digging through Zun's interviews to get more clarification on an argument about something that will never show up in Touhou's canon.

>>11919093
That's okay. I'll just post poorly made fanfic on /d/ to explain why Reimu got spanked.

>>11919032
I understand completely where you're coming from, more details are always welcome. However, even if those details are absent, "she's been a bad girl" is still a sufficient and self-evidently true explanation. Such is the charm of Touhou.

>>11919098
Unfortunately, I'm a romantic.
I cannot enjoy a porn doujin if there's no tender love scenes before or afterward to show the girl as being affectionate.

Does that affect me? Yes. I can't fap to 80% of doujins.

>>11919101
Can't you just fool yourself into think that there is going to be a scene after until you already came?

>>11919105
I can, of course. But it's different. It's like the difference between self-play and fucking a girl for real. Your imagination always loses in the comparaison, because you always know, deep inside you, that there's no backstory, or that it's not consensual.

>>11919074
I see, someone on the wiki decided to turn 異変 to "disaster" just for this one article, because fuck consistency. Still, it's no excuse for you, unless you literally Ctrl+F instead of reading with comprehension

I don't think we define headcanon the same way. But I guess that's just a reason to not use words that don't have a proper definition in the first place.

>>11919101
>show the girl as being affectionate

You may be in luck, the artist of that Reimu picture is fond of drawing entire storylines around his spanking scenes.

>>11919130
Except for that Reimu one. It's a one-short.
But I like how it follows SK-II's "brutal Hakurei goes soft once the anger is over". Just too bad there's no afterward.

>>11919133
What I mean is, don't lose hope yet. Youmu's and Sakuya's started as single pictures, he may be planning to expand on Reimu too.

>>11919139
Wait, what were we talking about previously?

Also, I wouldn't mind being married to the Former Hakurei Maiden.

>>11919142
Scroll up.

>>11919145
Okay. Back to the original topic, I think the Former Hakurei Maiden is a nice person.
And she's mah waifu too.

What if my favorite character is Rinnosuke?

>>11919153
But he's not.

>>11919154
Option 3 :
Reimu deserted and decided to live by herself.

>>11919149
Option 1:
Former Maiden was killed somehow/Dissapeared/Left for some ambiguous reason and was unable to train Reimu.
Option 2:
Former Maiden Didn't bother to train Reimu.

>>11919158
Option 4: Yukari is an asshole

>>11919153
Then Marisa and Reimu bash your door open and tell you there's a bachelor who needs a woman to take care of him, and you're forced to marry him.
He promises to not touch you unless you agree to it, so no rape.

>>11919159
What does Yukari have to do with that?

>>11919163
Read over the argument about whether or not Yukari is manipulating everything again.

>>11919112
You didn't quote it again. 5th post in a row. OK, I'll do it instead of you.
>youkai can easily cause incidents
>humans can easily resolve incidents
So how does this support argument that "youkai let it blow off steam by starting incidents"?
It just says that incidents existed before spellcard rules and they will happen in future too. They are like wars in real world. Wars do not happen only because some person wants to have fun, but they easily can go out of control. So that's why people created UN, Geneva conventions and other shit. The same way spellcard rules were created in Gensokyo. Reimu's article explain this in detail.
And as I said before majority of incidents so far happened due to reasons that has nothing to do with "youkai just got bored".

>>11919167
For what I saw, the argument was not conclusive, so I won't bother. And even if I joined, the fact that I'm going to leave for one hour will make me irrelevant to the argument, so why would I join?

>>11919159
http://strawpoll.me/1201971/

GLORY TO THE BORDER YOUKAI

>>11919168
Youkai wanted to fight, but couldn't because of the vampire contract. Then the spellcard rules were invented and they could, within said rules. It doesn't matter what happened before or after that. It's a simple sequence of events. So which part of it is hard for you to understand?

>>11919188
>/v/ crossboarders

>>11919212
Hey, if we had the soku threads on /jp/ the posting rate would skyrocket.

>>11919206
>Youkai wanted to fight, but couldn't because of the vampire contract. Then the spellcard rules were invented and they could, within said rules.
Oh, I completely agree with that. That's what PMiSS is saying. But what about "blowing steam off"? Maybe youkai just didn't want to be punished for starting incidents. For example Eirin started incident not because she was bored, but "to protect her ass" (as stated by >>11919052). And I don't think she would agree to be executed (even if she's immortal) for that.
I just made few speculations here, but I'm not saying it's canon. And by Ockham razor you like so much this theory actually looks more believable for me. Your point involves heavy speculations as well, but for some reason you assume it's canon. It's not.

>>11919241
Well, headcanon is literally canon.
It may contradict canon sources, but...

>>11919241
Or maybe they just couldn't no matter what.

>A devil's contract is absolute, thus one can never betray it.

As much as my friend Ockham is against a force this strong being completely unexplained, this does sound like a bind much stronger than a simple agreement to comply.

And there's a difference between filling in the blanks and making stuff up. Would you say Kasen being an oni is not canon, too? That's also just speculation at this point. (And just to be clear - the extent of Yukari's involvement is the only thing I'm assuming here that's not explicitly stated. Everything else I'm taking straight from the books.)

>>11919188
>batman

>>11919278

>>11919264
It's literally not. Semantically, canon is what people agree on. In the case of fiction, people usually agree that what the author wrote is true. When they make up things themselves and then believe them as a group, you have "fan canon", aka fanon, that's a valid use of the term too. "Headcanon" however, as in things a single person believes, is just a silly misnomer.

>>11919273
>A devil's contract is absolute, thus one can never betray it.
Why didn't you post the whole paragrpah?
>They went on a rampage when they first appeared in Gensokyo, lost against powerful youkai, and settled down after agreeing to a contract (*2).
>The details of this contract are that the youkai will offer them humans from which to feed (*3); in return, the vampires will not attack humans living in Gensokyo.
The sentence you quoted has absolutely nothing to do with spell card rules. Ha. Ha. Ha.

Sorry, but good night. You failed to prove anything.

>>11919349
>powerful youkai
That's not just Yukari.
It may be someone else.

>>11919283
The Batman doesn't do that.
The Joker does. Except it's limited to Chaotic.

>>11919612
I think they were talking about how he acts different in each edition/reboot, but whatever.

>>11919616
They do that?
Shit, these faggot can't make up their mind about anything.
>the joker is dead!
>but no, he's not dead!
>oh wait, he's dead again, for real this time!
>JUUUUUUST KIDDING LOL
>oh look, he's dead forever now.
>that doesn't count because it was Earth-3, the real Joker is on Earth -1

>>11919349
Is the context too complex for you to follow from post to post, or from one PMiSS article to another?

Once again: A contract went into effect that prevented youkai from performing certain actions. IT REMAINS IN EFFECT. The only thing that changed since then is the introduction of spellcard rules, which allow youkai to fight in mock duels.

From which follows that what prevents youkai from fighting outside of spellcard rules are not the rules, it's the contract. Spellcard rules are just a loophole in it.

>>11919645
Explains SWR, and UNL, and DDC.

>inb4 "u dont say unl u faggot"

>>11919771
http://unl.mizuumi.net/

>>11919843
I knew it.

>>11919843
How unoriginal.

>>11920256
2+2 = 4
>How unoriginal.

Don't cross the street on a red light!
>How unoriginal.

I don't usually walk outside naked during the blizzard.
>How unoriginal.

>>11920322
>being restricted by filthy pleb common sense
How unoriginal.
Do you even Malkavian?

>>11920496
If Malkav's wisdom does that to a vampire, imagine what it would do it a feeble human.

>>11920508
>implying I would personally mind
Makav's wisdom makes one able to know the future, while being unable to warn anyone about it.
If you already don't give a fuck about others, it's just like knowing how the story will end.

>>11912864
But Kogasa doesn't have friend or any family.

>>11920588
What do you mean? She now has (at least) three cute tsukumogami imoutos.

>>11920600
>implying Kogasa > Raiko
>implying ZUN isn't turning Kogasa into a running joke

>>11920867
I wish he turned her into a running joke, maybe then she'd get as much exposure as Cirno.

Can you imagine Kogasa in HM expansion pack? Or even in her own game? The winning condition would be to sneak behind the opponents during their spellcards and scaring them. It'd be the best game ever.

>>11920964
>Can you imagine Kogasa in HM expansion pack?
Very easily.

>>11919645
>Is the context too complex for you to follow from post to post, or from one PMiSS article to another?
Vampire article mentions DEVIL'S contract signed by a DEVIL and which DEVIL cannot betray. In case you're stupid, devil = vampire = Remilia (and Flan). Why would not other youkai be able to betray DEVIL'S contract if they didn't sign it or were not present in Gensokyo at that time?

>Once again: A contract went into effect that prevented youkai from performing certain actions.
You're saying that youkai are allowed to start incidents if they fight using spell card rules (statement 1). But your original argument was that spell card rules were "invented to let it blow off steam by starting incidents" (statement 2). These statements are completely different. I never denied the first one, but I ask for a proof of the second one.

>>11921356
Danmaku is a lie anyway.
Think about that, if you are a average joe that either by "merit" (aka, nobody will notice your disappearance) or by accident (Gensokyo isn't exactly renowed as far as border security goes, to the point you might unwittingly cross the border from the other side of the panet) then you best hope you meet either a human (and not even all of them) or the rare youkai that is friendly or at least neutral to humans.

You meet anything else? You dead, no danmaku battle, no spellcards, no duel, no rules, no nothing, NO! FUCKING! NOTHING! They'll kill you there where you stand and get away with it!
All that "Spellcard rules" horseshit isn't meant to save humans, if any is to save youkais from being Exterminated (and by "Exterminated" i mean the real fucking deal that deserve a capital "E") from those who had got enough of their shit, be them a shrine maiden, a human, or heavens's forbid, a youkai that doesn't need or feel the craving for feasting on human flesh/soul/life force/whatever.

That's what all of it is, a lie!

>>11921356
So wait, if one text includes a certain adjective and the other doesn't, you feel free to conclude they're talking about different things? I have no patience left for you, allow my friend Ockham to take over.

If you agree that youkai wanted to fight, but disagree that they wanted to blow steam off, then you're free to treat "blowing steam off" as a literal statement all you want, but again, I'm out.

>>11921453
No, I'm really wondering how for example Byakuren would be affected by a contract signed by Remilia. Why can't Hijiri disobey it?

>but disagree that they wanted to blow steam off
And when did I say that I disagree with that? Some youkai may want to "blow steam off". But I disagree that "spell card rules were invented to let it blow off steam by starting incidents". Spell card rules are like Geneva conventions of Gensokyo. You can't say that Geneva conventions were signed to let countries start wars. That's incorrect.

>I'm out.
Today another retarded "primary" got annihilated and left the thread.

>>11921506
>Why can't Hijiri disobey it?
She can't? I don't know. Why can't Remilia?

>Geneva Conventions
Well, good thing that spellcard rules aren't Geneva Conventions and were signed to let youkai start wars. It's your metaphors versus ZUN's words, I wonder who wins.

>If I post crap long enough, people get tired of talking to me and I can claim victory!
That's just sad.

>>11921451
*farts in ur face*

>>11921634
>She can't?
Yes, it's your words:
>Or maybe they [youkai] just couldn't no matter what.

>Why can't Remilia?
She signed devil's contract. ZUN's words:
>A devil's contract is absolute, thus one can never betray it.

>It's your metaphor
It was not metaphor. I was pointing out your fallacy. From "A -> B", "B is true" you can't conclude "A is true". That's basics of logic.

>versus ZUN's words
Here are ZUN's words that say why Spell Crad rules were invented:
>As it would be dangerous for any youkai to defeat the Hakurei shrine maiden, many youkai felt that their existences had become meaningless. And so the spell card rules were introduced.
>That deciding victors solely based on strength is unacceptable.

>That's just sad.
Didn't you say you're out? I guess you're too butthurt about it so you will reply no matter what.

>>11921704
>maybe
My words.

>She signed devil's contract.
Thank you, Cpt. Obvious. Now explain what force prevents her from breaking it.

>It was not metaphor
So you just mentioned Geneva Convention for no reason whatsoever. Gotcha.

>From "A -> B", "B is true" you can't conclude "A is true"
Good thing I conclude that A is true from "A is true", then.

>Here are ZUN's words
You've posted it already. I replied to it already. Read the reply again, this time with some comprehension.

>NO U
You're an awful person, I have the time, I'm not giving you the satisfaction.

>>11921792
>maybe
Oh, so you post random shit for no fucking reason? Maybe you're an idiot.

>Now explain what force prevents her from breaking it.
The power of devil's contract:
>A devil's contract is ABSOLUTE, thus ONE CAN NEVER BETRAY it.

>So you just mentioned Geneva Convention for no reason whatsoever. Gotcha.
You can't connect two sentences? It was example pointing out your fallacy.

>I replied to it already. Read the reply again,
OK. I'm reading it now (>>11919057):
>I'm not even sure
>I'm also not sure
>I don't even know
Such a great answer...
________________________________

Again, these were ZUN's words about the reason of spell card rule creation. Where exactly did you get "they were created to allow youkai to blow steam off by starting incidents?". I think PMiSS clearly says that rules were created to protect shrine maiden and weak humans.

>>11921792
Also, you already gave me satisfaction by failing to prove that:
1) "Yukari pacifying Reimu" is not your headcanon
2) "Yukari inventing Spell Card rules" is not your headcanon

>>11921823
>you post random shit for no fucking reason?
No, I propose an explanation to something that wasn't adequately explained otherwise. This would normally lead to an interesting discussion - unfortunately, I was talking to a fucking idiot.

>The power of devil's contract
So it's some magical infallible force of nature that compels everyone to act it out? Looks like you have an explanation to everything on your hands.

>I'm reading it now
Wrong, you should go back all the way to >>11918931.

>(>>11919057)
By that point, I was merely wondering why you're babbling, repeating yourself and ignoring everything thrown your way.

[X] GENUFLECT

>>11921878

>some battles were necessary. The result of this were the spell card rules
>As it would be dangerous for any youkai to defeat the Hakurei shrine maiden, many youkai felt that their existences had become meaningless. And so the spell card rules were introduced.
>it became possible for youkai to safely defeat the shrine maiden without worrying about the consequences.
They all have the same meaning: Spell Card rules were created to allow youkai fight shrine maiden without fear to kill her.
It doesn't say anything about starting incidents. It's not stated anywhere that that starting incidents was banned after events of Vampire Incident (you can't even ban it).

>>11921920
>Spell Card rules were created to allow youkai fight
Indeed, and you should have stopped right there. This concerns all battles, not just battles with a miko.

>It doesn't say anything about starting incidents.
The motherfucking spellcard rules say about starting incidents.

>It's not stated anywhere that that starting incidents was banned
Fighting, however, was. Hypothetical incidents without fighting aren't particularly relevant here. It's not much fun starting something up just to have it end right at the moment miko comes over and tells you to stop.

>>11922082
>Spell Card rules were created to allow youkai fight
>Indeed
Fight =/= start incidents. Spell Card rules allowed youkai to have a fair duel with miko at any time even without any incident ongoing. This (protection of shrine maiden) was the main reason Spell Card rules were created. They were not invented because youkai wanted to start incidents, since not all incidents involves fighting with miko. And they were not created to allow youkai to fight in general, because youkai could always fight each other if they wanted.

>The motherfucking spellcard rules say about starting incidents.
It says
>That youkai can easily cause disasters.
The meaning of this sentence is not "these rules allow youkai to start incidents". It's "it may happen that youkai sometimes start incidents". And since sometimes incident can happen Gensokyo needed rules that would protect shrine maiden (and humans, and Gensokyo itself).

>Hypothetical incidents without fighting aren't particularly relevant here
Kanako basically started SA incident but she didn't fight with Reimu/Marisa.

>>11922227
>Spell Card rules allowed youkai to have a fair duel with miko at any time even without any incident ongoing.
They have no reason to fight with the shrine maiden unless they're doing something shifty and the shrine maiden goes to beat them up. Because the shrine maiden's existence is central to Gensokyo and the youkai know that, without the Spell Card Rules all they can do is give up. Incidents are the only relevant context here.

>The meaning of this sentence is not "these rules allow youkai to start incidents".
Uhh, yes it is. Youkai need to exert some sort of influence on people in order to remain relevant. Without doing so, their existence is threatened. Half the point of the rules is to let youkai stir shit up. You seem to think that the rules are to protect the shrine maiden, where it's actually the opposite. The goal is to protect the youkai.

>Kanako basically started SA incident but she didn't fight with Reimu/Marisa.
Has nothing to do with this. Kanako planning various things isn't dangerous enough to go get her to stop. If it was, Reimu would go tell her off, and Kanako wouldn't be able to do anything about it because you can't endanger the shrine maiden. The fighting of humans, in particular the shrine maiden, is what was "banned".

>>11922227
>Fight =/= start incidents.

Actually...
>Those as powerful as vampires are usually forbidden to directly assault humans.
>So, they aren't so dangerous even if you happen to meet one.
>Instead, they cause many disasters that affect the whole of Gensokyo.
We don't know the details, but at least Remilia in particular is limited in who she can fight. Her best option is starting an incident and waiting for the pros to come after her.

>(protection of shrine maiden) was the main reason Spell Card rules were created
>youkai could always fight each other if they wanted.

So how do you explain the preamble to the spellcard rules speaking about facilitating "duels between youkai" and not "duels with the shrine maiden"? Is it lying?

>It's "it may happen that youkai sometimes start incidents".

It's actually "Youkai should be able to easily start incidents". (It's in the section titled "理念", a quite specific term that I'd personally translate as "founding principles" in this context.)

>Gensokyo needed rules that would protect shrine maiden

It didn't. Youkai aren't suicidal and wouldn't oppose the miko even before the rules. It was all about allowing them to fight at all.

>Kanako basically started SA incident

And the SA incident is indeed not relevant to Remilia or the creation of the spellcard rules.

>>11922386
>They have no reason to fight with the shrine maiden unless they're doing something shifty
Hahaha. Seriously? Have you played at least single touhou game? Youkai attack Reimu all the fucking time. Did Wriggle start any incident?Why did she attack miko hen? What was her reason? Or maybe Mystia started incident? No? 90% of all game encounters are attacks from youkai who didn't start anything.

>>11922996
Wait, am I talking with two different people here?

>but at least Remilia in particular is limited in who she can fight
It was stated that she was not allowed to attack humans. Nothing about starting incidents. She probably could start red mist shit even without spell card rules, but she wouldn't be allowed to fight Reimu in the end. I.e. spell Card rules are all about fights not incidents.

>Her best option is starting an incident
Or she could go to Hakurei shrine and challenge Reimu. Spell card rules allowed it.

>So how do you explain the preamble to the spellcard rules speaking about facilitating "duels between youkai" and not "duels with the shrine maiden"?
Maybe if you read my post you would see that i was saying not ONLY about miko: "that would protect shrine maiden (and humans, and Gensokyo itself)." It's explained in the first paragraph of Spell Card rules.

Anyway. Protection of humans, all youkai and everything in Gensokyo IS NOT THE SAME AS "letting them blow off steam by starting incidents".

Post length limit lol.

>>11924084
>Youkai attack Reimu all the fucking time.
She's the one attacking them most of the time, though.

>Nothing about starting incidents.
Sure, except for the part where instead of attacking humans, she's starting incidents.

>spell Card rules are all about fights not incidents.
Sure, except for the part where they specifically talk about incidents.

>Or she could go to Hakurei shrine and challenge Reimu.
I'm sure she does that too. Doesn't stop her from also starting incidents.

>It's explained in the first paragraph of Spell Card rules.
Yes, it's explained explicitly and specifically that the rules are to allow fights between youkai. Not a word about miko or other humans. So how do you explain that, this time without dodging the question?

>>11924248
First of all I don't even need to explain anything. A burden of proof is on your side since it was YOU who stated the initial bullshit: >>11918804

>She's the one attacking them most of the time, though.
So do you admit that you have never played a single touhou game? Rumia, Dai, Cirno, Letty, Chen, Alice, Prismrivers, Youmu, Wriggle, Mystia, Keine, Akis, Hina. Do I need to continue with the list? In any case most of the times =/= all the time. And so "They have no reason to fight with the shrine maiden unless they're doing something shifty" is NOT TRUE.

>Sure, except for the part where they specifically talk about incidents.
Spell card rules do not allow or disallow incidents. Your understanding of that sentence is totally incorrect. It basically means that incidents can happen because of youkai. As you said that's just "fundamental principle" of the world they live in, explanation why do they need those rules. Or do you think that Spell Card rules also force "elegance and thought" to be the most "superior thing"?

>I'm sure she does that too. Doesn't stop her from also starting incidents.
Did you forget about "blowing steam off by starting incidents" again?

>Yes, it's explained explicitly and specifically that the rules are to allow fights between youkai. Not a word about miko or other humans
This is "draft". Spell card rules work for ALL fights as explained in other articles.

>>11924291
>I don't even need to explain anything.
True, you don't need to. Feel free to continue making unsubstantiated claims.

>Do I need to continue with the list?
Per the above, you don't. Unless, of course, you actually want to prove the majority. But if you do, please double check it, you're including characters that shouldn't be there.

>"They have no reason to fight with the shrine maiden unless they're doing something shifty" is NOT TRUE.
You can fight someone without a reason.

>Spell card rules do not allow or disallow incidents.
Yes, they do. Allow, that is.

>"fundamental principle" of the world
I didn't realize this can be misunderstood, but you're exceptionally talented.
>理念 りねん (Platonic) ideal (of how things ought to be, e.g. human rights); foundational principle; idea; conception (e.g. of the university); doctrine; ideology
It's an explanation, yes. Explanation of what the rules strive to achieve.

>Did you forget about
I've been talking about nothing but incidents for a while.

>This is "draft".
If you have a final version and it's different, please share.

>Spell card rules work for ALL fights
It's common for things to be more universal than what they were directly invented for.

>>11924397
>Feel free to continue making unsubstantiated claims.
But that's what YOU are doing. Here's your claim that you failed to prove:
"Youkai have no reason to fight with the shrine maiden unless they're doing something shifty." Not true. Youkai do have a reason to fight with miko even if they are not doing anything shifty and they are not attacked by miko herslef.

Your strategy is just taking every single sentence out of context, quote it and then write something completely unrelated.

Let's start from beginning
>spellcard rules were invented to let [all youkai] blow off steam by starting incidents.
(I included [all youkai] becuase I doubt you mean that spell card rules were invented only to allow Remilia start incidents)
If this is true, what prevented all youkai from starting incidents before spell card rules?
How do spell card rules help in starting incidents at all?
If spell card rules are all about incidents, why do they cover absolutely all fights even between humans or when there is no incident ongoing?
There are shitton of youkai who never started anything and probably will never do. How do they blow steam off?

This conversation stopped being fun.

>>11924466
>How do they blow steam off?
I'll take it that you never read any touhou doujin.

It involves p0n0s being shoved in v0g0n0, and a lot of "no, don't, stop !"

>>11924466
>Here's your claim
Not mine, actually.

>Youkai do have a reason
Are you speaking in a general, philosophical "there's always a reason for anything" sense, or can you actually propose some? Note that "she's here and I'm bored" or "she's attacking me, what the fuck" would usually not be understood as a "reason" in casual language.

>Your strategy is just taking every single sentence out of context
What I'm actually doing is reminding you of the context over and over, because you keep ignoring it. Maybe you really just can't see how things are related, who knows.

>I included [all youkai] becuase
...it lets you say "but some don't start incidents!!1" and pretend it's relevant to a discussion about those who do. And then you get frustrated because I'm not falling for it.

>what prevented all youkai from starting incidents before spell card rules?
Possibly the contract? We don't know what and if. But it's irrelevant, because the important part is that those hypothetical no-spellcard-rules incidents wouldn't lead to fighting (unless the youkai actually wanted to damage Gensokyo), so they're of no interest to people who'd want to "blow off steam".

>How do spell card rules help in starting incidents at all?
They help in RESOLVING them in a way that satisfies everyone. You're just asking wrong questions, see?

>If spell card rules are all about incidents
Nobody said that, and you're once again inserting universal quantifier where an existential one used to be. Stop this shit.

>This conversation stopped being fun.
Finally you're starting to see things my way!

>>11924524
"Winner gets to fuck the loser" should be an integral part of the spellcard rules.

I'm just dropping by to say I like how this thread went from being a variation of wich 2hu wud u fug to serious discussion.

>>11924586
It's been tl;dr for me since halfway through the thread. I don't even know what they're talking about.

>>11924604
You're not losing anything, we're just being autistic now. Please be understanding.

>>11924582
>"Winner gets to fuck the loser" should be an integral part of the spellcard rules.

Only if there is a male player character because lesbian sex is boring.

>>11924623
If there's one thing doujinshi taught me (except basic Japanese), it's that magic can help people grow dicks with ease and at will.

>>11924582
>"Winner gets to fuck the loser" should be an integral part of the spellcard rules.
QFT

>>11924582
>Not mine, actually.
Yet you answered to my answer...

>it lets you say "but some don't start incidents!!1"
That's not how logic works. American laws allow citizens to bear arms. It doesn't mean all americans have weapons in their houses.
I added that because you always try to return to Remilia even though I always was talking about ALL youkai.

>We don't know if
Oh. So we discard "spell card rules were invented to help sta

>no-spellcard-rules incidents wouldn't lead to fighting
Oh, so incidents are required for fighting?
So youkai are blowing off steam by fighting, aren't they? Incident without fight won't help them to blow off steam, right? So then what is the point in incident at all? What does prevent youkai from fighting without incidents? Why do spell card rules cover absolutely all fights even outside of incidents?
Answer: incidents don't matter.
Youkai have been fighting with humans and each other since forever. Even before vampire incident. Then something happened which led to banning fights and then creation of spell card rules. Fights were banned because they threatened miko, humans, other youkai and whole Gensokyo. Introduction of Spell card rules just barely returned status before vampire incident. The new thing they introduced was safety of miko, humans, youkai and Gensokyo.

>>11924084
>Hahaha. Seriously? Have you played at least single touhou game? Youkai attack Reimu all the fucking time. Did Wriggle start any incident?Why did she attack miko hen? What was her reason? Or maybe Mystia started incident? No? 90% of all game encounters are attacks from youkai who didn't start anything.

i can't believe one person can be this stupid

>>11924662
>Yet you answered to my answer...
Why does this surprise you? Is this your first time on an anonymous board?

>That's not how logic works.
Obviously. That's how your argumentation works, though.

>American laws allow citizens to bear arms. It doesn't mean all americans have weapons in their houses.
But what about the Americans that don't have weapons? How do they protect themselves?

>Oh. So we discard
No we don't, because they fucking explicitly say they were invented for that.
"People traveled before cars, that means cars weren't invented to transport people" - U.

>Oh, so incidents are required for fighting?
"Trucks don't transport people."
"Oh, so cars are required for travel?" - U
Are you just doing this at random?

>So youkai are
"So people are traveling, aren't they? Trucks won't help them travel, right? So then what is the point in cars at all? What does prevent people from traveling without cars? Why do traffic rules cover absolutely all travel even outside of cars?
Answer: cars don't matter." - U

And yet Remilia got into her Ferrari and rode all over Gensokyo, covering it in smog from her exhaust pipe. She should have used a bicycle, that little bitch.

>Introduction of Spell card rules just barely returned status before vampire incident.
Before: "I want to fight, but I have to restrain myself because collateral damage."
After: "Spellcard rules! Fighting is like saying hello in Gensokyo!"
Just barely.

>The new thing they introduced
The new thing cars introduced was the built-in engine. This makes them totally not transport vehices, right?

>>11925500
I don't always start threads.
But when I do, they're derailed into giant wall of texts conversation.

Day 3?

>>11925181
Nice ad hominem. I feel kind today, so here: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=touhou+games+download.. I would recommend starting with PCB or IN.

>>11925500
>Why does this surprise you?
So you just decided to make completely pointless (and actually incorrect) claim. OK.

>That's how your argumentation works, though.
Example? Quote please.

>How do they protect themselves?
Police and army.

>- U
Simple "ctrl + f" shows that I didn't say that.

>Trucks won't help them travel, right? So then what is the point in cars at all?
You switched car with a truck in a second question, while I used "incident" both times. Also truck is a car. Fight is not an incident.

>Why do traffic rules cover absolutely all travel even outside of cars?
Because traffic rules were not created to allow people to travel, lol. They were created for safety of everyone, even people who don't own a car.

>>11926417
Sorry!

>>11926999
>pointless
The whole conversation is already pointless, one remark more won't hurt.

>incorrect
Ha ha ha, no.

>Example?
Did you just miss the entire post you were replying to?

>Simple "ctrl + f"
Didn't I already tell you you're overusing this browser feature and underutilizing reading with comprehension?

>You switched car with a truck in a second question, while I used "incident" both times. Also truck is a car.
So I switched a car with a (type of a) car? What an astute observation! Now observe further, a truck is a car that doesn't carry people. Isn't it kinda like an incident that doesn't end in fighting?

>Because traffic rules were not created to allow people to travel
First of all, you've only just read the metaphor, and you've already lost track of it. It's about cars (incidents) now.
Second of all, I rue giving you an opportunity to miss the point much further than before, but it won't help you in the end. The metaphor is not perfect, but it's much closer than you realize.

(Modern traffic laws were in fact written primarily with car travel in mind. At one point of time, the laws were pretty much the traffic version of the vampire contract - super-restrictive regulations that limited the use of cars to the point of irrelevancy - reducing the speed of the vehicle to single-digit mph, requiring a person to run before a car with a flag to warn everyone it's coming, shit like that. Now what's what I call safety! A vast majority of what came afterwards was, naturally, written for the express purpose to make driving more viable.)

Please take responsibility for this thread.

>>11927327
>Ha ha ha, no.
I already provided list which contradicts your "most of the time". I though most of the time should be at least 70-80% or something like that.

>So I switched a car with a (type of a) car?
Yes, it's important.
A - car, B - truck, C - travel. B ⊂ A.
Now if B -> C = false (trucks do not allow people to travel) it doesn't mean that A -> C = false (cars do not allow people to travel).

>The metaphor is not perfect
I don't see how it works at all.
"Traffic laws were created to let people blow steam off via driving".

>>11927429
>I already provided list
You listed some characters, including those attacked by Reimu and those with no dialogue capable of determining who attacked, and still got below 50% of the cast of the games covered.

>B -> C = false (trucks do not allow people to travel) it doesn't mean that A -> C = false (cars do not allow people to travel).
Thank you for correcting your own fallacies.

>I don't see how it works at all.
The idea was that the logic of your statements will be more apparently bullshit if fictional fantastic terms from Touhou lore will get replaced with something real-life and concrete.
It appears to have worked.

>>11927518
>and still got below 50%
Add Lilly, Reisen, Tewi, Momiji and Sanae. Already >50% if you consider these games only.

>Thank you for correcting your own fallacies.
Lol, trucks and cars is YOUR words. I used a single term both times - "incident".

>The idea was that the logic of your statements
I didn't make any statements. I asked questions.
Your replacement is not correct since you're not doing it equally (like already mentioned car-truck vs fight-incident thing. Car is a truck. Fight is not an incident).
And here's you bullshit if fictional fantastic terms from Touhou lore will get replaced with something real-life and concrete: "Traffic laws were created to let people blow steam off via driving". You got owned by your own weapon.

>>11927584
>Add
You can add everyone and get 100%, but the point is to make the list of VALID examples.

>I used a single term both times - "incident".
>incident without fight
>single term
Are you lying, have memory of a goldfish, or just completely retarded?

>I didn't make any statements. I asked questions.
>Answer:
Yup, completely retarded.

>Fight is not an incident
I did not replace "fight" with a "truck", you imbecile. How are you even breathing?

>>11927611
>ad hominen and insults
I will just leave this here again as your final words: "Traffic laws were created to let people blow steam off via driving"

>>11927709
It's "Traffic laws were created to let people travel".

You started with reasonably camouflaged logical fallacies, but now you can't even perform a string.replace properly. I wonder how much more stupid can you pretend to be.

That argument is stupid. Youkais are faggot and should be executed.

this might be the worst thread i have ever seen

Are you fuckers autistic?

Stop flinging Tumblr words like headcanon.

So much green.
Who are you quoting?

>>11929708
We've had worse.

I honestly don't have a functioning penis.
Like, it has phismosis.
And if you retract the skin, and touch the meat, i feel pain.

I'm sure that if i show it to them, they'll understand that the child is not mine and leave me alone. Although that would stain the relationship with the character, so maybe i should accept marrying her out of love, then masturbate while i get cuckolded.
Then, when she feels guilty, tell her the truth to make her more guilty.
Dunno what to do next, maybe finally see an urologist.

>>11929722
So little red.
Who are you responding to?

>>11929735
You're in luck, Gensokyo's famous for the quality of its healthcare.

B-but Rumia is a little girl that has no mother or father!

>>11929758
How much is the co-pay? I can only afford $36 right now

>>11929763
>implying Rumia isn't the bastard child of Rinnosuke and Yukari

That wouldn't work for me.
I'm totally asexual. I can't fuck anything. Even 11-years old's mothers on Xbox Live.

>>11915579
What if your just talking about the themes present in Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty?

>>11918568
>>11918578
>>11918572
With all this, I think the idea of Yukari just pulling in small girls with extreme potential to become the next hakurei makes a lot of sense.

>>11929956
who are you shreking?

>>11914078
There's a copypasta about a neckbeard helping some girl and then forcing her to eat a bowl of eggs