/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Tell them to fuck off

>>11897356
It happened to me with Mushihime Sama Futari awhile back but just telling them to look at some gameplay screenshots changed their minds quickly. But with Galgun I got a feeling it wont be as easy...

>>11897353
where are you? Canadia?

>>11897373
Sweden land of protecting the innocent 2d girls while somalis buttravage our pigdisgusting 3d asses.

>>11897377
Check your regional laws concerning 2D, and then just show up and be like "bitch its 2D"

Or just don't pick up your package and deny ever ordering it.

>>11897384
Yeah il call them and give it a shot.

Shooting up those loli angels was pretty good, they can't access that from a fresh save though.

>>11897400
I was pissed that 360 version was region locked but then the light shined upon me when I found a ps3 in the dumpster. Obviously the gods are on my side.

Wasn't 2d pornography legal in Europe?

>>11897353
Didn't the game say all the girls aren't underage?
I think even all ages novels state so.

>>11897353
Miko is that you?

>>11897467
No i am not this Miko fellow.

>>11897462
This is the country that blocked Dead or Alive 5 from entering the country because you could take pictures of a 16 year old in a bikini and that's child porn

>>11897373
I ordered a shipment from Mandarake which included some BL doujinshi and a figure of a maid and instead of sending it to California, they sent it to Canada.

/jp/, I may have gotten someone arrested. It's only a matter of time before they track me down.

>>11897474
My mistake it was Dead or Alive Dimensions

http://www.gamerevolution.com/news/dead-or-alive-dimensions-banned-in-sweden-for-child-pornography-5843

>>11897474
Seriously?
I thought EU was more tolerant towards this kind of games.

>>11897482
It's just Sweden thats autistic.

>>11897482
Not in sweden

OP should learn Finnish and move to Finland, and try to hide his shameful swedish past.

>>11897483
>>11897484
What about the other countries?
I was thinking of importing erogame, but now I'm a bit confused.
I want to buy Jast or Japanese nukige as well so I can't really try to deceive customs by saying "look at the cover it's just a game"
Are Switzerland or Italy fine with this?

>>11897487
I think Switzerland is good with it. I think they threw out a case of lolicon because arresting people over cartoons is a waste of time.

>>11897474
Thank god I live in Germany where everyone likes to fuck children.

Does Sweden support at least hentai manga?

They did it because it portraits obscene drill hair.
How lewd.

And OP, did you import the game because collection reasons?.
Because if its only to play the game I think you could try and install a CFW in your PS3.

It's a lot better in the long run.

>>11897500
you don't know our law, do you?

>>11897518
Nah I actually wanted to play it. Il check up on CFW for the future after all I dont have much to loose I did find the PS3 in the dumpster anyway.

>>11897513
Do ya know Edathy?
Do you know every pastor in Germany?
Yeah, thought so.

>>11897526
Depending on your model and actual firmware you can even do it yourself. Some models need a flasher so you'll have to pay. Last PS3 model isn't CFW-able I think.

And how lucky.

>>11897480
Retards, it wasn't banned or forbidden in any way, to avoid controversy after a new law and legal case against a jap/swe-translator caused a large CP debate the Swedish importer of Nintendo, Bergsala AB, chose not to import and distribute the game to retailers in Sweden.
Swedish retailers like Webhallen imported the UK-version and sold it LEGALLY
Look here retards, still available in Sweden at several retailers
Just check Prisjakt after doa dimensions and you'll see

>>11897353
>>11897377
Feels good to live in the land of the free where you can even import games where you beat up and then rip the clothes off of women and schoolgirls.

>>11897533
it doesn't matter how many people fuck lolis.
law is law.
technically u should be in jail for owning a shitload of childporn

>>11897552
>childporn
Gotta save those 2D children!

Why I love living in the home of the brave.

>>11897557
From dicks at least, murdering them is still legal

>>11897557
this is how the law in germany is.
even when the person is 18 or older.
everything that just looks younger than 18 and is lewd is childporn here.

>>11897562
In belgium is now legal to kill your children under 14 years of age with euthinasia.

Thanks god my country is a shitty third world with 0 laws on stuff like this.

>>11897600
Lucky bastard.
I become paranoid as HELL every time I buy shit off mandarake

>>11897561
I still fear that they'll crack down on 2D before long. It's got to happen eventually. U.S. is one of the leading countries in fear and hatred of pedophiles after all.

i warned you about paying for software

i told you dog!

I called the customs and they said they will look into it.. I got a bad feeling

>>11897923
Holy FUCK dude, I would shit my pants

>>11897941
I am more scared if this leads to a police raid where they find my illegal zastavas...

>>11897353
>Europe
I love the US

>>11897971

Didn't the swedish translator dude who had a bunch of loli manga get released because the supreme court thought that chasing people over cartoons is retarded

>>11897923
I would go there personally and try to get the game, or at least make them think no one would give a shit about someone importing such a game.

If they're into the plan of trying to fuck me up, I would pray that they don't find game reviews by Kotaku.


Well, even the wiki description is kinky
>Armed with "pheromone shots", the player keeps the girls at bay by shooting them - making them drop to the floor in dizzy ecstasy

>2014
bor fortfarande i Sverige

>>11897675
The US doesn't have time for that shit, we dont care as long as its 3d.

>>11897474
Funny. Last I heard actual pedophilia was running rampant, but instead of cracking down the children whorehouses they go after games.

>>11898015
mmmkay.

OP, you are fucked.

>>11898075
There aren't child whorehouses in the first world. It's mostly incest.

>>11898107
That's pretty bad too. Somewhere out there, there's a young, vulnerable girl being abused by her dad, who instead of protecting her like a good father should, is robbing her of the innocent and carefree childhood she should have, and forcing on her with mental scars that will stay with her for life.

And the resources that could have been spent on trying to save this girl are instead being spent on prosecuting a bunch of nerds who just want to fap to some weird stuff a guy in Japan drew.

>>11898148
Murica!

Whoa that sucks OP, my condolences.

>>11897353
I imported 100g of marijuana and all I got was a dumb letter too. They don't even bother tracking you down. But I used a POB so maybe they thought I used a fake name like a smart person

I just purchased Idolmaster and two eromanga, now I come to /jp/ and this is the first thread I see.
Good thing I live in Germany

>>11898220
>Good thing I live in Germany
You might want to pack your bags. Everything is banned in Germany

>>11898240
What? I already got a lot of eromanga and even some loli doujin, they all went through customs with no problems. It's still scary though

yeah im sure theyre going to arrest you for buying a playstation videogame

>>11897353
They just wanted to save you from a terrible rail shooter.

>>11898281
It can't be worse than Midways T2 what a nigger game

>>11897923
no need to worry.
tell them thats not your fault, that lolis are so sexy.
they will understand.

>>11898250
it is just about customs don't know our law or don't care.

>>11898332
loli is not illegal in germany, so it doesn't matter anyways

>>11898334
http://www.bundespruefstelle.de/RedaktionBMFSFJ/RedaktionBPjM/PDFs/BPJMAktuell/bpjm-aktuell-200902-kriterien-scheinminderjaehrigkeit,property=pdf,bereich=bpjm,sprache=de,rwb=true.pdf
when was it changed?

>>11898360
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_cartoon_pornography_depicting_minors
There's no law about it at all, it's a grey area

>>11898360
>Scheinminderjährigkeit
That's not the same thing

>>11898366
wikipedia, legit source.
read the document its from our goverment and they say it explicit in the text.
it is forbidden.
just that you want to be legal doesn't make it true.

>>11898385
READ IT
before talk.

>>11898396
I read it, even the part about comics. It's still something completely unrelated

>>11898391
Can you show me a case were someone actually got jail time for importing ero manga or loli?

>>11898360
That one is about child porn, why would normal eromanga without loli be illegal?

TBF got the game

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYKNVKpDXH8

I don't see the problem don't these guys live in Canada?

ねね子

>>11897507
Since people here are retards you're mostly fine so long as it has huge tits, but even then disgruntled 30-somethings will post pictures of their blog of the first thing they find when they search "mangaanime", like a picture of 30-something Sumeragi from Gundam 00 and her massive knockers and write stuff like "preschool children with large breasts, this is perverted".

Basically, the Swedish libertine attitude has taken a 180 degree reversal and now people are more prudish than ever.

>>11898535
I remember some guy calling the sorceress from dragon's crown a loli... It was one of the most stupidest shit I have ever read.

>>11898540
He was an American though, but basically the same line of thinking, that the "big eyes" aesthetic means that it's automatically neoteny which means it's automatically a child.

They probably wouldn't bat their eyes at Betty Boop, despite the fact that she's the cause, and Daisy and Donald Duck can walk around without pants on because "they're cartoons".

>>11898428
I'm not German, but probably the same attitudes I'm describing above where people for some reason think that well-endowed, wide-hipped adult characters are children simply because of their facial characteristics.

Canadafag here. They stopped my copy of Idolm@ster at the boarder but I they didn't flag my copy of Diploma Mill by Rustle. I don't even know what the issue is in the first place frankly.

>>11898404

If it was illegal there that melonpan guy would be arrested by now.

WELLLLL IM PROUDDDDD TO BEEEE AN AMERICANNNNNN
WHERE AT LEAST I KNOW IM FREEEEEEE

>>11898582
And I wont forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.

>>11898366
>Currently, countries that have made it illegal to possess (as well as create and distribute) sexual images of fictional characters who are described as or appear to be under eighteen years old include Canada, South Africa, South Korea, Sweden, the United Kingdom, and the Philippines.
>South Africa
>Philippines
>Sweden
Wow, they have huge problems with rape and prostitution of real people and the government is worried about fucking drawings?
I seriously don't get this logic.

>>11898615
Anything to make the jail stats equal for colored people.

>>11897493

Switzerland continuing to be based. Why can't the rest of Europe follow suit? Little girls aren't illegal!

>>11898575

Not everything gets checked in the first place.

>>11898322
Lol, seriously stop trying to "help" him, this looking more and more like that classic /b/ thread where the guy deleted win32 from his computer and then people advised him to use a magnet on his hd and he actually did it.

>>11898250
Customs from most countries don't check for EVERYTHING that passes through it, they sort of pick things randomly to verify it, based upon the volume of imports on the day, suspiciousness of the package and laziness/pickiness of the working agents.

I can speak for experience because I've imported multiple DVDs (including from the same band) and sometimes they were taxed and retained and at others they weren't. The same applies to my friends who also imported some stuff, there were times were their packages were retained and taxed and others that similar packages weren't. I think that if you plan it out to order stuff when it's most busy and crowded (say at the end of an year or New Years Eve) it might have a better chance of passing inconspicuously.

>>11898588
And I gladly standdddd up next to youu
and defender her still today!

>>11898366
>The CPPA made all virtual child sex depictions illegal without regard to whether the speech was protected or not, so that part of the statute was struck down as facially invalid.

So 2d loli is legal in the states then?

>>11898682
You just explained the obvious, I actually had to open packages with eromanga in them in front of the custom officials and they didn't give a fuck.

>>11898695
It's a known fact, how new are you?

They can only get you on obscenity, a completely different charge, in the US, and the level of that depends entirely on your state. For that, being in a red state generally doesn't help you.

>>11898709
>I actually had to open packages with eromanga in them in front of the custom officials and they didn't give a fuck.
I bet they thought something like "Let's not make the life of this nerd even more fucked"

>>11898721
Speak for yourself

>>11898721
Said the otaku

>>11898730
>>11898738
So is it me the one who import eromanga?

Fufu, Westerners suffering from post-feminism. Next time I know it you're all dressed up like Quakers.

>>11898741
You're posting on /jp/, so chances are you're also a nerd

>>11898720
I thought it was a known fact myself until a few weeks ago when someone I was told me a story about how a man went to prison for having loli on his hard-drive. Perhaps there's more to the news however..

>>11898721
I also had the occasional "this package was opened by customs" slip

>>11898753
I can't find a case where theres a guy with loli manga who also didn't get convicted of having real CP. In other words, I can't find a case where anyone in the US was convicted solely of possession of loli manga. I could have just not searched hard enough, though.

>>11898778
I wouldn't have doubted them lying to me about it. They lied about liking loli and old abusive men as well.

Is it okay for me to post this here?

>>11898795
reported to FBI

>>11898795
you monster, do you have idea of how many lives you ruined posting it?

>>11898795
rip anon

>>11898795
That is one tall loli.

>>11898806

what if it is a shota doing the sexing?

>>11898824
Then it's straight-shota and is twice as illegal.

>>11898753
1) Don't believe stupid stories without backing dude, how gullible are you? Anybody can SAY anything, right? The only way to know is to actually have read about it and the laws.

2) Loli cannot be illegal in the states because it's unconstitutional. I already told you that loli can be considered obscene instead, which you can be gotten for, but again, the extent (and in many cases, whether you can be gotten for it at all) depend entirely on the state.

Note that obscenity regarding loli has never actually been challenged in a court of law.

>>11898831
Reminds me of a case in Utah a couple of years back when two 13-year olds were prosecuted for child rape and got suspended sentences with obligatory sexual offender status for life, after having had consensual sex with each other.

>>11898837
Holy shit, that is beyond retarded

>>11898837
Usually they only prosecute the older one or the male one if they are both the same age.

>>11898835
I'll make sure to take note of this.

>>11898837
From doing this shit a few years back to having gayness pushed on every news outlet. I wonder who could be behind this?

>>11898858
>>11898859
DA's got to secure that re-election by being "tough on crime".

>>11898837
That's really hot.

>>11898869
The feminists of course.

>>11898893
Thanks for letting me know, I was suspecting the jews.

>>11899023
In that case you can have a guess at who started feminism.

Is there a surefire method that can at least reduce the chances of customs seizing your shipments?
I'm sure there's some canadian out there with a room full of illegal depictions of underage children that can offer some advice.

>>11899103
Change your foolish ways and accept the gift the machine god has given us.

Why anyone would want to physically own anything that might get them impeached is beyond me.

>>11897353
Interesting, and scary. I thought they didn't give a shit about drawings anymore, especially since this: >>11897992 If I remember correctly, he was released because the art style wasn't realistic enough to be considered cp, and because he was a "manga expert".
Since then, I have just been telling myself that I'm an eroge expert, and that the art isn't realistic. It isn't.
I have been really close to ordering some 18+ games, but if OP's game was stopped, I don't dare do it. (I mean look at it, the cover ain't even lewd)

My paranoia has been reinstalled. And OP, please keep me/us updated on what happens to you. I wish you all the best.

They were selling this at a store where I live. I thought about getting it for the cute girls, but I don't like shooters.

>>11899186
muh freedom*
*something canadians don't have

>>11899186
Says the guy making a reference to a franchise built around overpriced physical merchandise.

>>11899292

>>11899306
death to ameriKKKa

>>11899342
wow that's rude

>>11899200
Are you a Swedish fellow?

>>11899782
Yes I am.

around the 30th of january the police came to my house, took my 3 doujins which had loli stuff, took my computer and all my hdds as well as my roommates computer stuff and now im waiting for april to be charged as a sex offender and "possessing and distributing child pornography" because of 2d children apparently having rights even more than an actual person. oh and at the court house its an open hearing and people can take my name/photo without permission and print it in the news.

australia is a fucking shit hole. please kill me.

2D loli is the gateway to 3D loli.

Wherever there is 2D loli, chances are very high that the person has AT LEAST one picture somewhere in his hard drive of an underage minor.

This is why cops arrest people with lewd 2D comics despite it not being illegal, because they know upon checking his computer, there will be the real illegal stuff. Then you'll see on the newspapers: OTAKU ARRESTED FOR HAVIND LEWD DOUJIN, NETIZENS OUTRAGED. Then in the article it will say: Child pornography found in his computer, etc.

So yeah, think about that.

>>11899821
Why haven't you killed yourself yet?

>>11899929
Being from Australia, he'll probably release some sort of poisonous gas or burst into a horde of venomous spiders upon dying and doesn't want to have his room mate deal with that.

>>11899914
>Wherever there is 2D loli, chances are very high that the person has AT LEAST one picture somewhere in his hard drive of an underage minor.
Speak for yourself, who wants ugly 3d pics on his own pc.

>>11899929
depending on what i get charged with the time is nigh friend

also for the record there was no 3dpd on there at all so idk speak for yourself if you think its a gateway

>>11899955
this too

>>11899292
>>11899306
Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my free healthcare

Just because an act isn't prosecuted, it doesn't mean it's not illegal according to the law. In the case of loli, the US doesn't prosecute for loli because it's only 2D and they have more than enough crime to keep them busy. The pedo scare only grows worse as time goes on, and it's only a matter of time before they start seriously prosecuting for 2D.

>>11898695
>>11898720
Nope, incorrect.

The CPPA was struck down in 2002. The PROTECT act was enacted in 2003 to replace it, and it's still in effect to this day. It "Prohibits drawings, sculptures, and pictures of such drawings and sculptures depicting minors in actions or situations that meet the Miller test of being obscene, OR are engaged in sex acts that are deemed to meet the same obscene condition. The law does not explicitly state that images of fictional beings who appear to be under 18 engaged in sexual acts that are not deemed to be obscene are rendered illegal in and of their own condition (illustration of sex of fictional minors)." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROTECT_Act_of_2003))

One thing to always consider is that anything considered obscene IS NOT CONSIDERED FREE SPEECH. This is where loli gets fucked over, because while artistic loli is free speech, loli not protected by free speech is simply child porn in the US. And I don't really think "Raped by my Older Brother -it hurts but it also feels good-" will pass the Miller test.

>>11898575
They check at random (though with bias, all DVD-shaped things I order are always checked in the Netherlands because they're likely to be worth enough for extra charges). You'll even be able to get actual child porn through customs if you try, just once out of every X times it doesn't work and somebody's life ends.

>>11898753
>>11898778
>>11898835
Christopher Handley. He pleaded guilty, so he was convicted without a trial.

>>11898582
AND I PROUDLY STAND UP....NEXT TO YOU!!! something something.. CAUSE THERE AINT NO DOUBT I LOVE THIS LAND GGRDD BLESS DER USAAAA.

>>11899985
I'm so sorry.

Meanwhile in Australia I can import all the loli I want untouched.

And people say Australia is uptight about it.

>>11900017
Christopher Handley was charged with obsence materials. If he wasn't a dumbass and pleaded guilty to a retarded loose crime he probably wouldn't have even gotten convicted.

>>11899985
free poop is still poop yuropoor

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?scode=CGD2-64211&page=top/search/list?s_keywords=Aurora%20Star%20Coral$pagemax=20$getcnt=0$pagecnt=1

One time I fucking ordered this and it got marked as 'dangerous' on the package. What does that even MEAN? I'm Canadian btw. I don't see any sexy lolis so what is bad about this?

>>11897353
OP you're about to get V&.

I'd DBAN your hard drive and melt down the platters if I were you. The last thing you want is them finding MORE evidence.

>>11897353
Have fun in JAIL Svergie-kun

>>11900560
>Warning: Owner is a faggot

>>11900624
Umm, no? It didn't say that. Where are you getting this idea??

>>11900625
Probably because you play normie card games.

>>11900632
vanguard is for normies? I thought they hated anime stuff?

Chaz, can you give me the deets and explain what games are and aren't for normies? Asking a normie like you seems to be a good way to find out.

>>11900638
Card games are social games made for people to get together and play them.

>>11900642
I have nobody to play with...

>>11899250
>They were selling this at a store where I live. I thought about getting it for the cute girls, but I don't like shooters.
Where do you live?

>>11899103
Order toys with your lewd games and books.
I've had several questionable books get to me because they were packed underneath robots and figures, and thus listed on the packing manifest as:
>Toy
>Printed goods
>Audio CD

And soforth.
And I live in Canada.

>>11900650
NY

>>11897353
I want to fuck the blue haired girl, are there sexy pictures of her in the game?

>>11901000
he is lieing

>>11897353
this game cover doesn't even have anything wrong with it. there are localized games at gamestop from nisa and such that are worse then this in America. what the fuck?

>>11901000
and nippon echi has actual fucking lolis in it, while this has women with tits. you know im glad America is not THAT retarded and boy did i think we were retarded. but we just do not care at fucking all about anime or cartoons, its just retarded too send someone too jail for that.

>>11901004
Nope, same thing happened to me with Mushihime Sama Futari and yes I am aware that DeathSmiles got released without any problems here...

>>11899821

Are you serious dude?

>>11899821
More deets man, how did they know?

>>11897500

shitty newtrip is a sausage munching kraut. there is no hope left for the jay

I just buy shit via jap psn and steal other stuff.

Less hassle that way.

Anyone have any sources on loli being legal in the Netherlands?

You'd think customs would be more interested in trying to get stuff that actually matters

>>11902730
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_cartoon_pornography_depicting_minors

>>11902749
>mfw 2d loli are legal in my glorious country that is Italy

>>11902744
The main purpose of customs is to increase tax revenue. Drugs, child porn etc. are not their priorities even if they say they are.

>>11902758
Well if I was a customs agent I'd be going after drugs to resell. What exactly would generate tax revenue? Just cash being sent?

>>11902749
Thanks, but that paragraph wasn't all that clear. I was hoping I could get some different sources.

>>11902763
Normal people (or companies) ordering normal stuff and having to pay import tariffs. Which I assume is like 99.9% of everything they handle.

>>11902763
If you live in a country that don't freedom, customs tax you when you buy things from other countries.

I live in Brazil and the customs returned my eromanga to the sender once because of "unauthorized importation"
But nothing happened, I just had to pay the shipping fee again and they didn't stopped it the second time it was sent.

>>11898148
Reality always works against what we think is right

>>11898580
Well no, melonpan isn't german.

>>11900472
It's illegal as fuck in Australia, there's even a set precedent:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/web/simpsons-cartoon-ripoff-is-child-porn-judge/2008/12/08/1228584795005.html

Australia's still as uptight as it always has been, brah!

>>11897377
Get a lawyer if it comes down to it. You aren't doing anything illegal. SVT has shown naked lolis in national news for crying out loud.
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangam%C3%A5let

>>11897353

You are either lying or ran into a retarded customs guy. Sadly it may be the latter.

Loli is legal in Sweden. The supreme court has made it clear that only art very similar to real children counts, on behalf that it could be a real child with some photoshop effects over. The police have welcomed this verdict since they were annoyed they might need to hunt pretend children criminals instead of real ones.

As for DoA for DS, it was Bergsala's choice to not import it because people were discussing to report it to the police to get another supreme court ruling showing that ecchi games are allowed.

Don't worry. It is impossible to go to jail for loli in Sweden unless you screw up or the retarded Beatrice Ask uses her witch powers to add new laws.

>>11897373
It's pretty fucked up.
And no one fights it because they're too ashamed of it.

I don't even like loli personally, but what if the feminists come to take my vanilla porn of 3D women because they say it is encourages rape or something.

If one man is denied his fap material, ALL MEN ARE DENIED THEIR FAP MATERIAL.

It's a slippery slope between banning loli and banning all porn, and I wouldn't put it past the feminazis to do so.

Which gal would you gun?

>>11899385
deal w/ it nerdtron

I feel your pain, OP. I live in Germany and I import a lot of lewd DVDs and Blu-rays starring 3D girls. They are over the age of 18, mind you, but Japanese girls don't necessarily look their age. One of the batches I imported about 1.5 years ago contained a DVD called ロリっ娘なう！！ featuring Shiraishi Ai. I can't post the cover of the DVD here due to NSFW, so just google it if you want to see what it looks like (DVD-Code: [RAIN-0002]). The package didn't contain an invoice, so I had to pick it up from the customs office personally and open it in front people there, so they can make sure that there's nothing illegal inside.

One of the customs officers was a woman (go figure) who threw a tantrum when she saw the cover of that particular DVD, accusing me of importing what might be child porn. Then I was taken into a separate room and was asked a few questions, including where I bought the DVDs from, whether I can prove that the girl is 18 or older and so on. It was pretty terrifying. The conversation came to a halt, then I just said "Can't you just believe me if I tell you they she is over 18?" Apparently those were the magic words that they needed to hear, since I was free to go (with my DVDs) afterwards. They probably just wanted to save their own asses and not take any responsibility, that's why they waited for me to give them some sort of assurance. Of course this experience has not taught me anything and I'm importing more lewd videos than ever. Moral of the story, OP, don't let anyone tell you what you can or can't masturbate to. Fight the man if you need to.

>>11903384
Did you fap harder or did that whole situation ruin your boner for her?

>>11902784
I thought that sales taxes and import duties respected my freedoms more than income and capital gains taxes though...
Was I lied to...?!

>>11902821
I want to retire in Brazil.

>>11902876
>>11902899
>>11903384
It's easy to go ``yeh figt the man bro :^)'' if you're not the guy standing trial.
Take it from someone who has been in court

>>11903384
It doesn't have anything to do with DVDs or games or the like, but I often consider importing loli onaholes, though stories like this make me feel quite uncomfortable.

>>11903490
>I want to retire in Brazil.
Prepare to pay a ridiculously high tax for every crap you decide to order, unless it's magazines, manga, artbooks, shit like that (since books are considered "culture" here and therefore are not taxed). I usually pay from 25 to 50 dollars (converted) for every figure I buy. Also, it takes a huge amount of time for them to properly tax your product, so going by EMS or SAL doesn't matter at all if you're dealing with things that aren't books. If they are, then it's fine. I've bought an artbook with porn and lolis and they didn't do anything.

>>11903490
There is no "fight". You have the law on your side if you're in Sweden and as I said before, they've shown far more lewd images on national news.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcVlA7qn1mE&feature=youtu.be&t=55s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NCr4rRLqJY&feature=youtu.be&t=25s

>>11903539
The court of public opinion is a lot less just and fair.

>>11903588
Surprisingly, the public was on his side.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrHd9rIpH00

>>11903588

It sucks, but there are people who hate others to feel better about themselves. They pick a category, gays or black or immigrants or lolicons, and then they make sure to be loud about how these are terrible humans. That way they can feel better about their own lives, since they are at least not the person they hate.

If we are lucky perhaps someone will give it a name as a mental disease, and we can make sure to drug these people up so they never bother others again.

>>11902730
I considered linking the proper article on wetten.overheid.nl, but I can't seem to find any articles about non-realistic child porn. (For your information, the relevant article for real CP is 240b.) Wikipedia also has an unsourced statement saying "In January 2011 the law was expanded and non-realistic images are now counted as child pornography.", but I never heard of that and can't find anything about it. Anybody know anything about this?

>>11897580
it's only in special cases where it's obvious the kid is suffering, and the kid has to be sane enough to tell the doctors he wants it, not the parents

OK so I called the customs office linked the employee this http://www.galgun.com/ps3/character1.html as I told her that the animated characters are just representations of their irl counterpart(I know it's just the VA). She bought it and package is heading for my local Postal terminal.

>>11904884
So, in the end nothing really happened

>>11904504
I guess but had it been some really lewd stuff who knows...

>>11904884
So basically, this guy (>>11902885) was right, then? It's crazy that you had to argue with customs like that in the first place, especially when you buy something that not even in the slightest resembles cp. I'm not sure I'd have the balls (eller ens hade orkat) to do the same if they accused me of trying to import something illegal.
I'm glad that it all worked out for you.

>>11904905
Just yell at them angrily even if you are wrong I have gotten a bunch of refunds that way.

I jewed my MX 518 for about 4 years in clasohlson they gave me a gift card the first time it broke then I bought another 518 it counted as a new purchase due to gift card hence new warranty.

>>11902599
>>11902569
they got an anonymous tip off because i posted some shit on tumblr. they also claimed i had it on my facebook which is just a straight out lie, so i dont know where this fucker gets off.

and yes im serious. im actually really scared atm , court date is april 9th at my local place which hopefully will be empty but.. im scared. im not ashamed of it but .. its just frightening you know? i had to tell my family and.. just fuck. they understand and are supporting me which is nice but its still.. horrible. when i try to sleep i think about them going through my bed room and taking my stuff and it makes me feel like i dont want to wake up. i feel dead.

>>11902599
>>11902569
They got an anonymous tip off because I posted some shit on tumblr. they also claimed I had it on my facebook which is just a straight out lie, so i dont know where this fucker gets off.

and yes im serious. I'm actually really scared atm , court date is early april at my local place which hopefully will be empty but.. I'm scared. I'm not ashamed of it but .. its just frightening you know? i had to tell my family and.. just fuck. they understand and are supporting me which is nice but its still.. horrible. when i try to sleep i think about them going through my bed room and taking my stuff and it makes me feel like i dont want to wake up. rghuaesrgbzasehb

>>11904918
Yeah, I don't know. I tried to jew free food from McDonald's before, by sending angry e-mails, but they didn't even respond. It probably works better when you do it on the phone.

>>11897353
will you try to keep this updated if something actually does happen? I hope it turns out okay

>>11905008
See: >>11904884
Nothing's gonna happen to him.

>>11897474
Even in the UK where lolicon is illegal that wouldn't count as illegal or banned I don't think.

>>11897923
sneake in,retrieve the game and erase all signs that it was there.

>>11904930
>They got an anonymous tip off because I posted some shit on tumblr.

Raze that site to the ground.

>>11899821
>>11904930
That's shit mate, but surely you must have known the law about loli beforehand?

>>11905152
well it's not discussed anywhere, any mention of child pornography refers only ever to real stuff, say on the news or such; it's very rarely even talked about at all. i'd never thought to look any further into it because it's so normal here on the internet and i know so many people in real life who just don't care about it

>>11904930
>>11899821
damn dude, this is really scary because I'm in Australia too.

as i mentioned in this post >>11902872 there's already a precedent in place and a similar outcome will probably be reached. i wouldn't be so worried about the publicity of it though bro - anyone you care about is probably understanding of your circumstances, like your family. any fine and probation will go away in time as well. but the worst part would be a sex offender status. It's something that only serves to ruin people's lives and I really hope that you somehow avoid it.

i know this doesn't mean much, but - I'm sorry.

>>11905158
Hm Britfag here and I've known that loli has been illegal here for quite a while, I'll never look at it or buy it, but even so you should have done some research beforehand.

I take it the stuff you had was sexual?

>>11905161
>I'll never look at it

lmao top beta *tips fedora*

>>11905159
from talking with the police i don't think i'll get a sex offenders status. the few cases i've looked up end in a similar way so i'm thinking that i'm looking at something similar yeah. there's not much i can do now but wait.

>>11905161
yes it was sexual. i probably would have if i'd realised it was such a big issue, but the amount of people i know both online and irl who have no problem with it, or are also into it, or think the whole thing is ridiculous (including my whole family) meant that i never thought it was a big deal, on the same level as pirating music or movies really if anything

How the hell is it even possible that there are countries as retarded as those mentioned before in existence? Anyone with quarter of a brain should understand that the original problem with the so called "child pornography" is because production of the photographed kind of it might cause damage to actual living children. Instead of going after actual child molesters they target those who have nothing to do it because "child pornography is bad", even though no-one probably even remembers why.

What the fuck?

>>11905191
>not wanting to get arrested is being beta

Okay m8, although I think the law is for if you actually have shit on your HDD, or own manga or something that has it in.

>>11905194
I agree, I think it is stupid. I can understand the intentions for the law, but it's just fucking 2D for crying out loud.

I hope things work out for you mate, good luck.

>>11905201

I imported 3 loli onaholes and jerk off to loli whenever I want. Meanwhile you're snivelling in your basement hoping the Paedofinder General won't burst down your door because you once read Clannad

I'm invincible and untouchable. If that guy off Coronation Street literally raped and killed a girl in 1996 and gets off with it, why shouldn't I?

>>11905204
Good for you mate

Australia? England?

Aren't these all former British Empire states?

When will this rotting specter finally perish from the globe?

>>11905200

Too bad there isn't some sort of international legal defense fund or NGO or something dedicated to preventing these mistakes from happening.

>>11905222
What about trolling?
>You've beaten game on R+, here's your battle loli's ID card!
>A-san: Blood Type O, Age: 18, Favorite Food: Chocolate mousse
>You've beaten game on B and you used all of your bombs in the first level. Here's your vehicle for failure's ID card.
>A-san: Blood Type O, Age: 15, Favorite Food: Cheeseburgers

>>11905229

You could hold the world hostage by releasing a sufficiently popular ero character and threatening to redact their age unless you're given money.

If the world is going to be absurd, why not laugh?

>>11905194
>from talking with the police i don't think i'll get a sex offenders status.
that's good to hear dude, i hope the courts don't fuck you over for something so trivial. it's nice that your family and IRL mates support you too.

/jp/ will always love you

>>11905231
THAT's the best you can do? You've been handed the biggest development since nuclear fission and the most you're willing to do with it is penny-ante legal trolling?

Consider: lolicons are objectively, measurably different from normal people. All ero material featuring underaged fictional people is loli. Therefore, by retconning the age of the characters in the present, you're able to retroactively control whether a given person is or is not a lolicon, even in the past.

What you have invented is time travel, and therefore FTL communication.

If any of these accounts are made up to troll us, I hope /jp/ realizes it before succumbing to fear and doubt.

>>11905327
Would someone really go on the internet and tell lies?

>>11905194

these types of things really come down to individual judges and possibly what state you are in. Also just how young did the depictions look? That is a very significant factor.

I wonder if people here think something like this http://www.fakku.net/doujinshi/mina-no-asuka-english could technically fall under the category of illegal in Aus?

>>11905421
it's borderline, you'd be arguing whether or not it's considered "offensive to a reasonable person" or whether or not Asuka appears to be 16 or older (this is western oz legislation btw).

>>11905327
Assuming these are not made up just to throw a scare into us, you'd really think someone would do something. It would be nice if there were billionaire Australian /jp/sies who could quietly fix whatever happens to be wrong.

>>11905266

I'm really tempted doing a choose your own ero adventure novel. Where in a single choice between flipping to page A or B, it determines if the girl is 12 or 20.

So the exact same beginning will be both child porn and normal ero at the same time. Impossible to tell apart.

In theory this would show how ridiculous it is to treat fiction as a crime. But majority of the worlds idiots would probably neither read it, nor understand the dilemma.

>>11905557
Another thing: I read a lot of loli when I was younger and hornier. What would've they had me do? Fap to women twice my age? That's not unsettling at all, is it.

>>11905266
The fetish isn't determined by the age, but the body type. The law is determined by both.

>>11905564
NCTSN has a PDF that everyone should read.

It brings up how kids from toddler age up to school years have various curiousity and interest in sex and nudity. It explains how it is perfectly natural.

Sadly they also have a PDF explaining how to see when you have sexual problems. Which seems to be just morale opinions about what is fine with them.

>>11905564
You aren't supposed to look at porn at all until you are 18 and then girls around your age would also be 18 or maybe 16 if you in one of those countries with lower consent laws.

>>11904930
This might seem mean, but I hope you've learned a lesson about posting on or even using tumblr and facebook.

>>11904930
Why would it be an open hearing unless you are a juvenile?

>>11905651
People really believe that's an option?

>>11905643
But body types in drawings are specific to the style of whomever's drawing them. It's basically just guessing.

I'm glad I live in America, but I wish countries that have those bad laws would just repeal them.

I wonder who the main forces behind this kind of censorship are. Someone needs to stop them.

>>11905832
www.unicef.org

>>11905838
I thought that was just Unicef Japan, which was supposedly not really in step with the whole.

>>11905852
>UNICEF also works with communities and the general public to raise awareness about the problem and address attitudes, norms and practices that are harmful to children.

>>11905861
But what does that have to do with loli? I thought they were a respectable organization that didn't act like that.

>>11905870
Loli normalizes child molestation.

>>11905947
But that's not true, judging by the rates of actual crime in countries that consume it.

>>11905947
Shooters normalize amok running.
You Americans are so dumb, it makes me hurt physically.

>>11905961
Americans aren't the ones banning loli.

>>11905986
You should read the newspaper more often.

>>11905961
Running amok is pretty normal.

>>11905961
But if the actions depicted are really that bad, surely it should take more than some cartoons to normalize them, right?

Also, "normalization" is the process of society deciding something is more socially acceptable, correct? Doesn't this mean that you don't trust society to make the correct decisions? If you don't trust society to determine its own path, who do you trust to determine it, and how do you decide whether this outside force is correct or incorrect in its judgments?

It seems to me that any attack on loli either lends cartoons supernatural power, or worse, implies that people won't know that immoral actions are wrong unless they're told. Beyond that, the logic of "normalization" implies that societies can't run themselves and have to be ruled by outside forces, who are by necessity unaccountable to their polity.

It seems to me like censorship denies the volition of the individual, denies society's ability to democratically govern itself, and strongly suggests rule by oligarchy or elites. I wonder what you think of this?

What the hell.

http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=243097
Free jail time for hacked Xbox owners!

Also, does anyone want a torrent of OP's Gal_Gun_JPN_PS3-HR? Note that you'll need a PS3 with CFW or ODE (and probably a PS Move controller).

>>11906126
I'd love one. Would save me the effort of fucking around with share.

So is the only place where I will be able to play my japanese animay games in peace in Great Nippon, and America?

>>11906255
>America
Nope. Just because people aren't being prosecuted for it doesn't mean it's legal. At some point in the future, the pedo scare will reach a high enough level that even people having only 2D will be actively persecuted.

>>11906261
Actually, you hear about it much much less in America now. It was only in high gear back when myspace was popular.

>>11906261
> Just because people aren't being prosecuted for it doesn't mean it's legal
then show me which law say it isn't legal

>>11906285
Not him, but this is all I have on the subject.

>>11906261
There's actually a section in my law textbook that goes over this concept and says it is in fact legal. No rights for virtual persons, not humanly accurate, and that sort of thing.

>>11906307
Wow, how'd they manage to make that coincide perfectly with all the states that are crappy for other reasons?

>>11906130
It's available on BCG; ~1.9GB total size means keeping it active for 3.5 days to get 1.0 ratio on that torrent there (assuming zero upload during this period).
I can get this release from elsewhere and upload it to Nyaa myself, but only tomorrow.

>>11906323
I like how only some parts of Utah are bad, and that translates into it being pink.

>>11906323
Virginia and Florida are nice.

>>11906347
Or, as I prefer to call them, NSA HQ and "America's Dick"

>>11906261
Forgot Western countries. What about Far Eastern ones like Taiwan, or something like that? What is there policy on 2d?

>>11906307
New Jersey has the best color, along with PA and Indian territory.
But I'll send a letter to Christie along with some Naisho no Naisho CGs and I'm sure he will ease any loli restrictions, if there even are any.

Dear moralfags, religius idiots, children's rights activists, child molesters and other crazy people,

Why are you all so retarded? Can't you just learn to separate fiction from reality? Is it so god damn difficult?

Sincerely,
Anon.

>>11906261

And at some point, it'll wear itself out and sharply reverse. People don't obsess like that unless it's based in denial, but when trying to negate something, you carry it with you.

>>11906424
damn right
*tips fedora

>>11906429
I don't get it. What does that have to do with what they said?

>>11906321
Mind providing that section? Anything I can keep on hand to defend myself in case they come knocking

Are lolis illegal in Canada?

>>11905515
>you'd really think someone would do something

I hope that guy talking about UNICEF being in on this is joking or only talking about their JP variant. I respected them at one point.

>>11906585
Yes

>>11906435
He mentioned "religious idiots" so he wears a fedora. Don't worry; it's a /pol/ meme, it doesn't have to make sense.

>>11906593
Is the distinction worth making? How autonomous are they? In any case a quick google search for "unicef manga" brings up a lot, not least of all this, from their Japanese site.

>私どもは、マンガ、アニメ、コンピューターゲームそのものを否定するものではありません。私どもが「なくそう！」と訴えているのは、『子どもポルノ問題に関する緊急要望書』の中に記したとおり、あくまで「欧米各国では法律等で禁じられている子どもへの性的虐待を描いた」（要望書前文5～6行目）ものであり、「子どもに対する性的虐待を性目的で描写した」（要望項目（1））ものに限定されます。
http://www.unicef.or.jp/special/0705/backnum/080317.html

They were very clear they wanted to model more restrictive laws based on the West.

>>11906631
I wonder if it's possible to change their minds.

>>11906631
Who funds UNICEF, mainly? Also, I hate to say it, but that's really low, providing charity and then hiding behind it while they pursue a restrictive, censorious agenda.

>>11906652
The UN.

>>11906681
So what you're saying is that this is indirectly the fault of the UN. Do they share the desire to do this, or are they ancillary to the situation?

>>11906688
You are asking if the United Nations knows what the United Nations Children's Fund is doing? Probably not.

>>11906414
send a cannoli too

>>11906681
They say they don't actually receive funding from the UN despite the name.

>>11906652
Random corporations.

Goddamn, it's bizarre and deeply unsettling to realize I might have to think about this sort of thing just because mai waifu is a crotchety old non-human whose small and cute appearance could be mistaken for youth.

>>11906719
I hope this is mostly just FUD and made-up stories, but if it were actually the case, it would be ridiculously stupid of them.

>>11906285
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROTECT_Act_of_2003

>>11906323
but cali and illinois are both blue

>>11899914
that's fabricated evidence though. they can't find anything but drawings, so they plant some 3d so they could arrest the guy, then bully him into admitting his guilt.

>>11907348
I'm pretty certain that the constitution overrides this even if the Supreme Court ruling (for whatever reason) didn't. There's nothing, no law, no precedent, no case, that explicitly criminalizes loli in the US.

I'm pretty sure small(er) companies like Right Stuf and big companies like Amazon are well-versed enough in the law to where they wouldn't be producing, dubbing, distributing, or selling loli material (like pic related, which incidentally is sold straight from Amazon's warehouse itself with a worker able to gift-wrap your loli porn DVD if you so please)--not to mention firms like Mangagamer registering with and moving distribution over to the States with their loli-filled catalog.

There's no reason to believe loli is illegal in the States--on the contrary, everything we've seen so far has pointed that it's perfectly legal.

Keep posting for no reason though.

>>11907451
Forgot my pic otherwise you wouldn't know what I was talking about.

>>11907348

the protect act is not really taken too seriously

the wording on the damn thing is so vague and overbroad that it violates 4th amendment rights, lawyers agree that if ever the thing was put into closer scrutiny, it will be shot down

it relies on shame tactics to get by

>>11907471

no the 4th ammendment has nothing to say about it

i think you're talking about the right to privacy

>>11904930
Wow, who did you piss off on tumblr to have them do that to you?

>>11907471
The PROTECT Act is to be taken seriously EXACTLY because it violates the constitution. It clearly rapes the constitution in every way but most of it is still in effect and will remain in effect until it's proven unconstitutional. The government can get away with passing and enforcing unconstitutional laws nowadays.

Not that it matters, though, since loli is obscene and therefore not protected by your constitutional rights. It would take effort to prosecute right now (people can argue that that part of PROTECT Act is also unconstitutional), but once they have a decent precedent (very likely as obscene material is not protected by the constitution), they can prosecute anyone who has loli.

>I'm pretty sure small(er) companies like Right Stuf and big companies like Amazon are well-versed enough in the law to where they wouldn't be producing, dubbing, distributing, or selling loli material (like pic related, which incidentally is sold straight from Amazon's warehouse itself with a worker able to gift-wrap your loli porn DVD if you so please)--not to mention firms like Mangagamer registering with and moving distribution over to the States with their loli-filled catalog.

They're companies. Unless it's something as blatantly illegal as child porn (and perhaps even there you can get away with it if you do it right), the employees (including the people in charge) are not personally responsible for what the company does. The worst possible outcome is that the company gets fined for a large amount of cash, which means the company goes under and the employees get away scot-free. In practice, the companies not involved with production (Right Stuf, Amazon) be able to claim they didn't know and only have to take it down before continuing on their merry way.

MangaGamer, on the other hand, could go bankrupt if they were to be prosecuted for peddling virtual child porn.

>>11907516
No. You're spewing off pure conjecture, assumption, and non-fact. You know nothing of the law and the companies that follow it or the possible penalties.

A company like Amazon is not going to chance its shit with material like that if there was actually something to worry about--there would be nothing but a shitstorm for them (unlike the Rapelay "scandal" which was a third party).

Right Stuf knows full well what it's doing and is tied to Funimation which is the largest and most well-known anime licensor in the west with hands on the biggest anime franchise there is.

You're arguing, again, off of ignorance, conjecture, and assumption, not to mention creating a massive false equivalency.

I don't know if you're a jealous Canadian or if you're just mentally challenged, but you really need to stop posting.

>>11907524
>You're wrong and you don't know shit
How about you prove me wrong instead of just saying I'm wrong? Link me to sources proving that companies get more than just a fine when they sell something they shouldn't or break pretty much any other law? Companies can literally get away with killing people as long as it wasn't the result of malice or an individual's actions, how would it be any different for loli?

>>11907529
I'm sorry, you're the one that's going to have to prove me wrong by showing me why it's illegal. That's how this thing works. But you can't because there is not a single precedent. Not only can you not do that, but you don't even know which companies are involved in the production of that particular title, so you're trying to argue without knowing all of the facts.

Look up the case in Maine if you care, because I certainly don't. You can't prove that there's anything illegal, you're just fear-mongering at this point. That's what Fox does by the way, for stuff it doesn't like.

>>11907537
>I'm sorry, you're the one that's going to have to prove me wrong by showing me why it's illegal.
I did in >>11900017 and >>11907348.

>But you can't because there is not a single precedent.
Only a law is required for something to be illegal. A precedent only makes prosecution a lot easier.

>Look up the case in Maine
Again, lack of prosecution does not make something legal. That guy probably also had a shitton of illegal software, music and/or movies on the computer that was searched, but he wasn't prosecuted for that either. That doesn't make the warez legal.

I have provided evidence for my case and refuted your objections. Now it's your turn to do the same.

>>11907548
>probably

See? This is where you are FUNDAMENTALLY broken.

I'm done with you.

>>11905947
Normalization normalizes normalization.

>>11905947
Idiocy normalizes idiocy.

>>11907537
Hypothetically, an instance of loli inclusive activity could be determined to be in violation of federal obscenity laws, given the rather unpredictable conditions that constitute the instrument (the miller test) used to determine whether or not something is obscene. Put together a certain configuration of individuals in a chance suit, and suddenly you have a citable precedent which is likely to influence the outcome of similar cases in the future. Iterate this state of legislation over 5-10 years, and you may find yourself under conditions where transmitting loli electronically is widely acknowleged as an unambiguous offense. Mere possession of obscene material is not neccessarily criminilized by the section, but any form of its transmission or dissemination certainly could be. No "evidence" or "facts" are neccessary or of any relevance in putting together this potential sequence of actions and arriving at a logically discernible outcome.

Disregarding the obscenity section for a moment, here is the definition of child pornography as observed by federal law:

“child pornography” means any visual depiction, including any photograph, film, video, picture, or computer or computer-generated image or picture, whether made or produced by electronic, mechanical, or other means, of sexually explicit conduct, where—

(A) the production of such visual depiction involves the use of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct;" etc

Could you entertain, for a moment, the notion that the rather vague clause of "any visual depiction" could under certain precedental conditions be construed to include loli? Images of "real children" are nothing more than strings of data; aggregate pixel-fields of various fucking blocks of color. How could people not very easily extend this definition to include slightly less authentic depictions of conceptually the same thing?

>>11907453
This one was so hot, damn.

>>11907548
Warez isn't a criminal offense, it's copyright violation.

>you're trying to argue without knowing all of the facts

Ugh. It's one of these people.

I must confess, I'd take absolute joy in watching this person get thrown into the wilderness and be immediately slaughtered in some otherwise easily anticipated manner.

>>11907881
>How could people not very easily extend this definition to include slightly less authentic depictions of conceptually the same thing?

Cartoons are obviously not real. It's not easy to tell the age of a real person. To discern the age of a fictional, caricatured person is not merely hard, it's incoherent. However, this pales in comparison to the larger issue. Proponents of any ban desire that the law prosecute those who have not harmed others. Any justification for this is poisonous, whether because they believe the offending person may commit a crime at some future time (which assumes that the police have clairvoyant powers, and renders the concept of innocence until guilt is proven irrelevant), or because they believe that the legal system should be given the ability to rule culture- which is essentially the definition of a police state.

Could a justice system decide that it's permissible to prosecute people for things that may not be crimes, haven't actually happened, have harmed no one, and do this on the basis that they can predict the future or should govern peoples' thoughts? Yes, but it would then be unworthy of the name.

>>11907881
The court system doesn't have infinite lawyers to prosecute everyone. They would rather get the people who upload child porn then the thousands of people who saw last week's "check out this cp" thread on /jp/. Considering that, I don't see why they would bother arresting someone for downloading cartoons unless he was doing something like looking at it in public.

>>11907928
Well, it happened in Canada, Australia, the UK, various European states, an assortment of Asian countries and almost, to a certain degree of equivalence, in Japan itself. I don't see how your corral of predominantly religious drudges are somehow not susceptible to endorsing or otherwise permitting this legislative outcome to occur.

>>11907902

What's the difference?

>>11907946
Of course they're susceptible. Every nation is susceptible to immoral and unjust laws. It's not like the end of WWII means that developed Western countries are now exempt from doing evil; as you mentioned, the UK has done so.

>>11907481
>tumblr
>a.k.a. "the home of every single radical feminist hyperliberal statist douche ever"

It probably wasn't even someone specific.

>>11907968
Unless you stand to gain financial gain or the work is worth more than $1,000 it's not a crime and therefore isn't really illegal. You can be sued for things that aren't illegal, though. Civil law tends to be less strict than criminal law.

>>11907993
>liberal
>narcing on people for thoughtcrime

That doesn't sound right.

>>11907981
The US is noble and just in all of its actions.

>>11908007
Well, no, it's not. My personal opinion is that its looser, less federated nature means that when the rot sets in (in this case, anti-loli), it takes longer to die.

>>11908003
You're confusing true liberalism with modern, internet-style "your rights end where my feelings begin" liberalism.

>>11908011
Who gives a fuck what your personal opinion is? The US in its sublime elegance has dominated the world stage, and therefore has right to subject its bureaucratic whims upon the dogs who are permitted to exist in the wake of their omniscient lord.

You do not have the authority, or right of birth to challenge the greatest nation this earth has ever been graced by.

>>11907968
Civil law requires the victim to sue the offender. Criminal law has the government suing the offender. This difference is also reflected in the legal procedures themselves; civil law is to allow one person or group to receive justice on a problematic issue he has with some other person or group. Criminal law is to protect society from people harmful to it.

However...
>>11907902
Warez distribution has been a criminal offense for who knows how long, but in the US, even downloading warez is a criminal offense as per 1997's No Electronic Theft Act (and its long-awaited expansion pack, Digital Theft Deterrence and Copyright Damages Improvement Act of 1999). There is a slight requirement that at least $1000 worth of warez need to be pirated in 180 days in order for it to be considered a crime. But nowadays anybody who does more with their computer than browse Facebook infringes for at least that much every 6 months. (There have been various precedents of the RIAA raping people in court using these laws.)

Furthermore, the US is strongly pushing for even harsher laws. 2011's ACTA forces Japan, the EU and Switzerland to adapt US-style copyright laws, and in 2012 they tried to make their domestic criminal copyright laws even harsher and broader using the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA), but that one got scrapped due to public outrage. And in US law, 'scrapped' means the exact same measures are going to be introduced through other bills instead.

>>11907994
The total value of all pirated works needs to be $1000 or more. Assuming $70 per game, if you pirate more than 14 games per 6 months, even without pirating anything else, you're a criminal. Still, it's too difficult for them to prosecute (they have to prove it, too, we're currently still innocent until proven guilty in most cases), so they're making new legislation to remove even that hurdle.

>>11908018
Of course, goyim.