/jp/ - Otaku Culture

So why the hell isn't there a mobile app yet?

>>11898822
So they can port it on vita and sell that. Also, it's an heavy game.

>>11898825
My S4 runs it fine but I don't play on it anymore since that's against the rules and I'm a good boy.

>>11898825
Vita can't move games. Should've went to 3DS like Pazudora and sold millions.

>>11898828
Bullshit, S4 runs it at like 15 fps during sorties and chokes even during menu transitions.

>>11898829
Thank you for your work, but I feel 6572 is mocking me... How can I still be without Yamato after almost fifty tries?

>>11898834
Don't know what's wrong with your S4 bro

Reposting because she seems to receive the second highest amount of love and I need to know.

Why is Imuya so fucking terrible? my low level sub fleet do more damage than she does even though she has a cut in, two torpedoes and is 70 levels higher than them, she has to be in position 1 or 2 in my fleet whenever sortied because I know if its left to her she will fuck up the S rank

>>11898832
That's the idea so Vita can actually become competition.

>>11898829
I'm kinda glad I'm low on kits now.

>>11898836
I used a Nexus and I get around that or 10fps. I'd like to know how you got it to work at serviceable speeds.

>>11898836
It's called not having enough ram. If a netbook with twice the power of S4 can only run it semi-well, what makes your S4 special? Unless your definition is fine means "gets the job done but still shitty".

>>11898845
It's about 20-24 FPS for me and that is all I need

>>11898844
Imuya was most people's first sub and there was a time when people believed SSVs were a worthless remodel. I like her as a character but she's definitely a benchwarmer.

For whatever reason, the game runs so much better on Linux than on Windows (at least for me), it's very nice.

>>11898841
You'd have a point if more devs/publishers shared that idea. Kancolle will probably sell well but it won't be the game to put the PSV back on the map.

>>11898832
Niche stuff like this is always on sony hardware

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22882049

Never forget the Fairies

Exp gain is capped at 718?
Just fought a lvl104 and a lvl108
Both give the same number of experience.

>>11898897
nah, i got 1k exp just now

>>11898897
Was that an S rank?

>>11898906
Obviously yes.

>>11898897
Blame wo

>>11898882
>always
Are you sure you want to make that claim? DS had its share of niche titles, some more well known titles being Love Plus and Doki Doki Majo Shinpan. I mean, hell, 3DS is getting a School Days game.

>>11898839
>6572
Stick with the cheaper recipe.
It is purely random, I really doubt recipe has any bearing on the outcome. I got mine with the min Yamato recipe after countless failure from 6572 and 4662 killed my ammo supply.

>>11898912
Then no, it's not the cap.

That is 736 (the same as S-ranking two lv99).

>>11898929
Resources aren't the issue for me tho, devkits are the bottleneck.

Look what I caught

http://kancolle.doorblog.jp/archives/37083604.html

Ayaki seems a bit more open about Kancolle lately, does this mean hopes for Murakumo/Tenryu/Tatsuta K2 are back on?

New thread, new version of KCV: v2.1.0 r281. Comes with a button on start up so that you can trick DMM.com into thinking you are a nipponese instead of a gaijin home wrecker. It also has proper logging features and outputs to CSV format like Logbook does, only everything here is translated (meaning the world you are in, the fleet you are fighting). It also includes time stamps. Unlike Logbook, the list will forever grow until you delete the log file.

https://github.com/Zharay/KanColleViewer
-- Download links are in their usual places.

On the cookie thing: You can press the button before logging in. Just be sure that the DMM's website is set to Japanese before trying to load up Kancolle.

>>11898832
Putting it on 3DS probably would've involved more actual work; I don't think they were given enough budget to turn Kancolle Kai into an actual game.

That said, why isn't a Kancolle "game" in development? The producer himself seems to be aware there's a demand for an action/ strategy game adaption, you'd figure they should do it while they can still ride the wave.

>>11898968
Where has there been any details on what it's going to be?

>>11898964
>All those new features
Now KCV is perfect, thank you for this.

>>11898964
>KanColleViwer is a tool to play Kantai Collection.
>KanColleViwer

>>11898968

I don't think they want people to be so split on the games when the browser game was the main attraction.

>>11898964
Based Zharay.

>>11898973
>Dat language skill
Yea I never did say I was perfect.

>>11898964
That sounds pretty neat, good job.

>>11898968
That's a reason I could buy. It would certainly be cheaper to simply port the game over with the same interfaces using touch screens for some quick bucks.

>>11898976
I agree. I suspect that they'll release a new Kancolle game once the popular starts to show signs of dipping.

>>11898972
They just emphasized it's a port with additional features.

>>11898976
The browser game pulls in the least amount of income though. It's the franchise that's profitable, not the game itself.

>>11898964
+1 thanks for this.

>>11898964
Does this revision have full compatibility with W7 now?

>>11898964
Thank you always for your hard work. Does changing the cookie do anything other than changing our location?

>>11899003
Not really. I could steal from the idea of the korean version and make it so that it plays a sound notification every time something happens though.

Does anyone know what version of python sikuli uses?
Can't find it at all with google.

>>11899006
Yeah, sure. I just don't like downloading programs with missing features.

Haven't played in awhile and I heard they fixed 3-2 refreshing. Where do people get their steel now?

>>11899051
Expeditions, quest, 3-2 with subs.

>>11899053
Can't believe I didn't think of doing 3-2 with subs. Thanks.

Let it spin, let it spin, let it spin...

>>11899062
4-2 with subs works too.

>>11899073
Never heard of that one, how does that one work?

>>11899073

The elites on the first node looks more painful than 3-2. Would it be worth it?

>>11899079
75% chance of a steel node.

It doesn't give as much steel as 3-2, but you can use it to complete the world 4 weekly quest.

Does this chocolate have an expiry date? Or can I store it for emergencies?

It's really nice that you can replay the wedding scene.

>>11899099
i don't even know what the chocolate does

>>11899111
Gives you supplies. Open it like your coin boxes.

Best place to level a fleet of light cruisers at? I've got 6 level 1 cl I need to catch up with. I can drop one of them I don't much care for to throw in a cv or ss if that'll be more efficient.

>>11899114
is the supplies random?

>>11899123
700/700/700/1500
except if you've let your starter ship sink

>>11899004
Other than that, it just makes the cookie last until 2019. That's about it. Same concept can be done in any other browser as well.

I wish they kept the scrap two equipments quest as a daily. I have a huge pile of junk gear and I'm sure other people do as well.

>>11899131
Yup, same here.
They should add it after the "Scrap two ships" daily

>>11899136
I prefer before since dailies start with equipments first. Yup.

So has anyone checked if married ships can sink?

I would try it but none of my ships are close to 99

>>11899163
>I would try it
Kuso.

>>11899163
Apparently they can.
Also >>11899164

>>11899163
>I would try it
So you would try to sink a girl you married just to know whether they can sink or not?
>>11899164

>>11899165
>>11899164
>>11899169
Yeah, I already know.
Akebono keeps calling me a kuso teitoku too.

>>11899169
Just put a damecon and take her through 5-3.
It is not hard.

>>11898832
Nintendo charges insane licensing fees.

>>11899121
If you don't mind equipping them all with ASW equipment, I think 4 or 5 CL at 4-3 will work for leveling. You'll hit 3 nodes at worst, 2 of which are sub nodes (guaranteed S ranks without night battle). You'll need to bring a BB and/or a CV though to take care of the other enemies and that one possible non-sub node.

>>11899129
Does it have any purpose if we use api?

>>11899204
No longer need a VPN to login and make another API link. In this case, you are playing the game as it's suppose to be played. Not that big a deal until they enforce that shitty API-reset thing again.

So if I'm using a fleet of mostly CL and DD, would it be a bad idea to equip them with only torpedos?

>>11899163
Get your married ship to 0 and do a PVP battle with her. If she gets hit to 1 and receives no exp from the match, she "sank".

>>11899231
Thanks for your answer. I wasn't understanding this cookie thing at all.

>>11899234
>would it be a bad idea to equip them with only torpedos?
Why would you do that unless you're using KTKM/Ooi before their second remodel? Kill them before they kill you, enemy's torpedo phase can be actually quite dangerous for CL/DD.

I tried to make a python script that would navigate the DMM script, update the cookies and fetch the API link directly but I'm in over my head.

I guess "login, receive cookie, go anywhere" has been deprecated for a decade. It might not be as bad as it looks, though, I think I only have to reimplement a layer or two of javascript before I'm home free.

>>11899263
Link it here if you are done please.
I prefer using stock browser rather than using a bloated .net program that has half the functionality on win7. It is not like I need the extra fatigue indicator.

>>11899249
>Get your married ship to 0
I mean, to red.

>>11899274
You can create those cookies yourself, retard.

>>11899283
You have to navigate a few layers of crap to do it.

>>11899274
It's your fault for believing Windows 8 is shit.

>>11899304
>Windows 8 is shit.
But it is shit.

>>11899304
But it still is.

>>11898964
Am I going to need to press the cookie button every time I go to start up KCV, or was once enough? Also, thanks for your work.

>>11899318
Just once.

I should probably write this all down in the readme on GitHub.

>>11899304
Prove me how Windows 8 is better with that fucking UAC stuff

>>11899327
For the glory of the win xp !

>>11898832
I much rather have it on the Vita though. The 3DS screens look awful.

>>11899256
So how exactly am I supposed to use CLs and DDs? Which formation is best for them and what should I focus on upgrading?

>>11899341
Support ends in April. I hope your computer's body is prepared for zero day forever.

>>11899341
Sorry this isn't 2008 anymore.

>>11899348
But... all Windows after xp have UAC.

>>11899346
Depends on the map. If you're still in Stage 1, just use them normally. When I started, I usually stack main guns and leave a slot for torpedoes. Unless you are prepared to go into night battle, stack 2 main guns on some of them.

As for formation, line ahead all day everyday unless for some specific situation, ASW, 3-2, etc.

>>11899350
You can just turn it off.

>>11899346
ASW and night battle. You can also take some with your main powerhouse fleet as wildcards and level them on 3-2-A. Line ahead for anything that doesn't require ASW which you have to use line abreast and for others, it depends on you. But yeah line ahead for most situations that they can handle.

>>11899346
Yuubari is the only CL that you need.
She is the only one CL that can go 2xcannon+2xsonar.

>>11898964
The Cookie button is irrelevant if I'm using API link right?

>>11899346
I use them for world 2 dailies since I only have one sub. I only have 6 of one sub.

>>11898968
A virtual on type game will literally print money and maybe even revive the dying arcade scene.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22873591

>>11899361
Disregard that. I should have scrolled down a few posts.

Anyone else find the expedition quest tracker is broken? I am stuck at 50% and I am pretty sure I should be done by now.

>>11899358
Isuzu is better for ASW. Better survivability, and 4 sonars is usually just overkill.

So did everyone have a good valentines day?

Her evasion is going up but it seems like she keeps getting hit harder...

Now that ships are marked with ring, how are they planning to change the name from "marriage" to something else?

>>11899434
Graduation Documents + Class Ring

>>11899434
They don't call it marriage in game at all afaik.

So they don't need to change anything. It is marriage, just not officially called marriage.

>>11899439
I like this idea. Then if you want to marry your ships to each other it's as canon as anything else.

>>11899434
Read the thread, "marriage (placeholder)" is pretty much a running gag by now; the long cheesy sequence when you marry the ship pretty much cemented the name.

>>11899434
The marriage(placeholder) is a joke. The devs are just rolling with it.

>>11899438
Wow, this actually... almost works.

>>11899432
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure evasion does shit all for subs.

>>11899447
You have Sakura petals falling all over her when she's put as a secretary ship and a two person futon is rewarded if you win 4-3 with her. That's one hell of a graduation, if anything.

>この手を絶対に離さないでなの
My heart, jesus christ.

I hope from the bottom of my heart that none of you are this person whom has shown me just how shit a mans taste can be.

>>11899456
>angel beats
Jesus

>>11899456
Admiral has a taste for torpedoes. Someone get Freud here.

>>11899456
>angel beats
That is some atrocious taste. I bet his waifus are pretty unimpressed by it.

>>11899453
Not to mention the item notes. Seriously, do these people even bothered reading the in-game texts and official twitter?

>>11899460
Oh no, if only we have english translation like what Commie is trying to make

>>11899460
I read the twitter but not the item , my intended is still level 50.

>>11899452
afaik it does approximately nothing for anyone.

>>11899476
11 hp maruyu!!!!

anyone has a recommendation how to level a CA from 20? its kinugusa

>水雷戦隊を指揮して奮戦した軽巡娘のさらなる改装(改造)の実装等を予定しています。ソロモン狭しと活躍した花の二水戦のエース…お楽しみに！
Jintsuu, right?

>>11899467
Still can't read Japanese? My fucking sides, it's 2014 already, go do some reps and don't come back to /jp/ until it's done.

>>11899494
I am currently dying due to an incurable disease that the doctors said they thought I wasn't going to live past 6 years ago.

I'm not going to start learning japanese when I could die after I learn it. I'd rather use that time to stumble my way through having fun while refusing to die because I still have to experience more fun.

>>11899488
Pretty much confirmed.

>>11899500
Do it. Not like you have anything better to live for.

So, any info about post-marriage stat caps?

>>11899615
I just got my Maruyu to 150 and she got a bonus 170 attack and 200 armor.

>>11899615
Same as pre-marriage, except 4-8 more HP, 10-15 more evasion/ASW/LoS, and whatever hidden bonuses that the levels themselves may have. I don't know about the luck cap, but all in all it's not that much, even with the 85% refueling cost.

But you try telling this to the "oh no, Kancolle has gone pay to win" shitters.

>>11899616
pay2win shit would not play

>>11899618
That's hardly gamebreaker, but definitely something worthed.
>>11899616
Strange, my Zuikaku just did cut-in during usual day battle.

>>11899621
>Strange, my Zuikaku just did cut-in during usual day battle.
Congratulations, anonymous, you remembered to put planes on her this time seeing as how aircraft carriers cut in at the beginning of every battle.

In related news, Mutsu just blew up and permanently destroyed two of my docks, 0/10 would not craft again.

>>11899621
Repair fairies were pay to win to begin with, since they conferred a notable in-game advantage (or so we thought) and were pay-only, except you were given two at the beginning of the game and got them handed to you like candy in quests and events.

Now you're given a free ring, and I am willing to bet that you'll get another in Midway's equivalent of Fall E3. I don't think the marriage system changed the status quo when it comes to paying, at least not any more than LSC and repair fairies did.

>>11899625
>E3
I doubt it. Given that marriage requires level 99 ships, I bet they make it one of the hardest rewards if they add it.

I hope 3 carriers are enough for midway

Maybe with an extra BB, or maybe it's a pre-empt style with 3 CV and 3 CLT

>>11899627
I think it will be. But you should have leveled CVL too, not just CV.

>>11899630
I only leveled CVL.

Midway is going to roast me alive.

>>11899630
>>11899632
Why CVL?

>>11899634
Compass requirements.

>>11899627
I don't think they'll ask for more than two compass requirement ships for any event map.

But they may ask for specific ships, as they did with Kongo-class. Luckily, there are so few CVs that the chances of you having the required ones are high.

I want to marry Wo..
.

>>11899637
Kongous are BC, not BB, so it was still class specific
the only CV with a unique class is Taihou
the only CVs with a somewhat unique class are AV and whatever Akitsumaru is but I doubt any of those will be needed for compass requirements

I'm not sure their current code even supports ship-specific requirements. Only specific classes are supported.

How hard are Reppuu Kai to craft? Am I fine with just Shinden Kai Ni on my Akagi and Kaga?

>>11899663
Too hard it's uncraftable.

>>11899658
Kongous are BB in the game

>>11899658
>Kongous are BC
Kongou where classified as Battlecruisers but then converted to Fast Battleships (急速戦艦), since they could function as a regular Battleship but had thinner armour.

>>11899663
Reppu Kai are uncraftable, go with Shinden Kai or regular Reppu.

>>11899658
Kongous started as a BC yes, but the IJN converted them into BBs, so BBs they are.

Good turbine recipe? Been following the one on the wiki to no avail.

>>11899677
If you put 100 ammo into the 46cm recipe they fall out but most people don't find turbines useful for anything.

>>11899677
100/300/250/10

>>11899677
there are none

>>11899668
>>11899670
>>11899672
for compass purposes they are handled as BC

>>11899681
Ammo affects turbine?
I used to do 100/11/251/250 to get radar with the occasional turbine failures. I think it is just 100fuel to get turbine.

>>11899684
What?

>>11899684
they can't be handled as something that doesn't exist in the game, for the compass in fall event they were handled as BB && fast

>>11899686
I think there's hidden class from the game file, like escort ship or dreadnought.

>>11899677
Waste of equipment space, i got 3 +10 turbines and used them few times during E4 but it's mostly placebo, put radars or secondary guns for more damage.

>>11899684
They were classified as "fast" battleships.

I really wanted to thank all the guys working on KCV, i finally was able to play on DMM website through KCV and have a full gaming experience without relying on API links.

>>11898964 Thanks

>>11898964
So if I am interpreting this correctly, with this newest version of KCV you no longer need to use API links.

>>11899698
No, just open KCV, login to DMM, change language to Japanese in the upper bar, go to the home page, press the "change cookie" button and open kancolle, it just works.

What's a good fleet setup for 4-1? Should I counter sub with my Imuya or have lots of CL for ASW stat? My poor Isuzu keeps getting destroyed by those BBs no matter how much I love her.

>>11899705
i usually clear it with 1xBB 2xCVL 2xDD 1xCL

>>11899685
What was your flag?

So did we ever find out what system changes that they made this past maintenance? Or were they just bluffing?

Should I stick to LSC for other CVs that I don't have if I already got Taihou? Or would normal crafting be more resource efficient?

>>11899743
Do normal crafting imo.

What fleet are you guys running 4-2 with?
I used 2DD 2 CLT 2 BB so far, but line ahead means that flagship BB will shit over at least one ship if torps don't gib her. Going in double line will ruin the op salvo's damage.

>>11899755
subs

>>11899743
I'm in the same spot, have Taihou but no cranes. I've been doing normal crafting but it's been a complete waste of resources so far.

Once my dev mats recover a bit, I'll probably try to craft for Akitsumaru and hopefully pick up one or both on the way.

>>11899764
Not the same guy. Best I've got is Imuya while I keep trying for Hachi. Am I stuck here until I get some more subs?

>>11899755
2DD, 1BB, 3CLT

>>11899770
4-5 at least. But you can clear/farm it with a normal fleet.

>>11899743
Dont bother.
Zuikaku can be farmed from 5-2.
Shoukaku should be available from some world4 map.

>>11899771
And line ahead?

>>11899772
My subs. Enough for 4-2? There seems to be many flagship CL on the map.

>>11899774
yes, always besides sub-node.

>>11899773
4-4 and 5-1 for Shoukaku, Uzuki drops there as well

How do you guys keep yourself from not getting bored? I have all the ships except Uzuki and there's nothing to look forward to.

>>11899778
You can try, it would be more safe with hachi.

>>11899786
Having different priorities than you do

>>11899784
Obviously, but I don't have her after 150 tries.
No wonder, I don't have Taihou after 30 attempts.

>>11899755
1BB 2DD 1CLT 2CV
I am leveling my CV for marriage and midway.
I dont why people are wasting their exp gain on subs, 4-2 is just 3-2 with a slightly higher steel cost. Can easily profit in steel too if you get lucky and hit a good RNG roll on the middle node and get a few BBs drop.

>>11899791
Don't you need like 230 air supremacy points there?

>>11899791
Yeah I go with 1blue 5green 2red on 2CV

>>11899786
By don't have all the ships and keep playing in hopes of someday got her

>>11899799
What 5 green? I don't have any reppu and according to the calculator, I'd need 3 shiden kai and 3 zero do get enough air superiority.

>>11899802
Start crafting then.
You should be having surplus of bauxite to throw into development unless you are still in the no Taihou club.

>>11899807
>unless you are still in the no Taihou club.
yeah, about that...

>>11899786
LSC makes me suffer but I can't quit it before I get Taihou. Only other ship I need is Uzuki, Gonna take it easy and do lots of grinding after I get them.

So, did anyone made kanmusu's voices into mp3s?

>>11899809
Look on the bright side, Taihou do comes with reppu so when do you get her it is also your first reppu.
To be honest you shouldn't be using zero when you are at world4.

>>11899811
Did you read the OP?

>>11899819
My bad.
On the bright side, i found other source http://parasiteeve2.blog65.fc2.com/blog-entry-895.html

Just to cut in on the CV talk

What's the best plane recipe in general, 2/6/1/10 since it cuts out saiun?

Or are any of you old chaps here still using the classic miracle stuff

>>11899829
I don't use it anymore since I don't need any blues or yellows. I'm using 20/30/10/90 for Reppu and 12A.

>>11899832
How many R-K's do you have exactly to not need any blues

>>11899832
>>11899836
How many of each plane do you consider to be 'enough' before you stop crafting for it?

>>11899843
Just a couple 12A, a single saiun

Blue/Greens are subjective

>>11899836
2 RKs and 13 Rs which I only end up using for 3-2 because for any hard map 12As are better damage wise.

>>11899843
1page of reppu.
Half dozeon of RK/S12A should be enough. They are pretty much interchangeable.
Basically you want to fill up the big slot with reppu and fill the leftover spots with RK/S12A

>>11899818
I'm doing my 34th attempt on Taihou today. So yeah, that says a lot about my crafting luck. Got Nagato at ttk level 97. Still no Mutsu. No Hachi. No hotel. No reppu.

>>11899871
150 gonna take a long time.

>>11899875
While LSC is almost 100% rng, with equipment craft you can sort of bend the result to your needs, i got 8 Reppus with a lv90 sparkly Akagi as flag using the usual 20/60/10/100 recipe.

>>11899878
I'm using a sparkly kaga and 50/60/30/120 because I need more Sholos from red and blue as well.

Question about the cookie. If I set it with KCV then log in with IE to hate some money, do I still need a proxy?

>>11899878
no, development is RNG as well. You just have the chance to throw some things out of the pool, but you didn't even really used that besides Saiuns.

>>11899880
>>11899878
>sparkles
Is this placebo?

>>11899888
Most likely, but Kaga's usually sparkling anyway, because wherever I deploy her, she steals the MVP.

>>11899888
I made solid gold from LSC on even minutes, the odd minutes kicked me in the face

I swear timings have something to do with crafting/ship drops

>>11899888
as placebo as using a ship with higher luck-stat

>>11899892
I'll keep that in mind

>>11899892
yes, but it goes for the milliseconds

>>11899896
One day when I go on my plane spree I'll record sparkling turkey results

Does anyone know how to level/grind ships in World 5? Getting tired of 4-3

>>11899904
5 DDs/CLs, 1 BB in 5-1 (one battle) or 5-2 (two battles). 4-3 with this setup is only good if you're grinding 0 or 1 DDs.

>>11899907
Thanks!

>>11899907
whats the minimum level?

>>11899910
I wouldn't really recommend 5-2 until after first remodel. Otherwise, nothing else.

>>11899892
>>11899896
>>11899878
Its all RNG imo.
The most important thing is to not quit and cry over the early failures. The next successful craft is always right around the corner.
I have an early shitty game where I didnt have any nagatos or cranes even after I cleared ironbottom sound. Now I am only missing hatsukaze, yayoi and uzuki.

>>11899913
thanks, I'll try with average of lvl30s DD and one high level BB as guardian

>>11899909
Oh and for 5-1 if you don't get directed south the first time round, reset. You have to suffer the maelstrom if you want to grind your ships well there.

>>11899871
So much for leveling 6 ships to 150, my autism can't take it unless they release an XP boost or something like that.

>>11899930
inb4 cash shop only 2x exp items.

>>11899930
I don't even have any ships at lvl99 yet

>>11899871
>3695000 total EXP
I doubt it.

>>11899930
You aren't supposed to hit 150 anytime soon (if ever), anon.

>>11899930
Do you even need the free turbine from the additional 50level?
Also it seems like the +luck from wedding is pure RNG from +3 to +x.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22892478

>>11899939
You're trying to rustle me with that plane placement aren't you

>>11899936
I mean not counting the initial 1 million pre-marriage(temp).

>>11899939
I'm seriously bothered by that planes placement, please fix it

>>11899941
Not my Taihou, I just stole it from the nips.
Lvl99 Taihou has 59 evasion. She basically gains 4evasion in 15level. Extrapolate this to 50level, her max evasion is around 72.
700yen for pay2win? Maybe if she is unsinkable, the stats boost not so good.

>>11899950
That HP boost though.

>>11899950
I'm curious about the accuracy.

Pick 2 DD's only for midway

Poi/PTSD for me

>>11899958
Poi and PTSD of course.

>>11899958
who is PTSD?

>>11899939
You sure is random? I saw different pics of the same ships and all had the same luck value increase

>>11899958
Hatsukaze and Naganami because it will be easy anyways.

I took a break from Kancolle 2 weeks ago, some people here mentioned some API-reset or "API incident". Could anyone explain this? I have no idea what this is about.

>>11899968
Just another Wo propaganda

>>11899958
The 2best DD of course. There is no need to use DD with kai2 crutch.

>>11899968
After an update they made API tokens refresh every 90 mins or so, you needed to fetch a new one with a VPN. But it overloaded their login servers so they stopped with the resets.

>>11899958
Miyuki and Poi/Murakumo

>>11899978
Thank you.

>it overloaded their login servers so they stopped with the resets.
This part improved my horrible mood a little.

>>11899982
They noted they were planning on reimplementing it someday in the future. The code for it is still there. They haven't acted on that threat though.

>>11899978
Fun fact, they kept on stating that people playing with third party browsers added extra load on the servers, but people playing via VPN directly on DMM websites reported that they were getting error cats and javascript errors randomly, forcing them to reset the game, this probably meant that jp players too had to reload constantly, putting extra strain on login server.

Does crit increase ammo stack?

>>11899987
third party browsers (what do they actually mean by that? All browsers are third party anyway when you make a browser game) don't put extra load on the servers.

>>11899992
They probably meant things like KCV and the logbook but as far as I can remember, they were okay with those.

>>11899995
those don't put extra load on the servers.
I don't see how a "third-party browser" would be able to do that, unless it forces constant reloads, but why would anyone do that?

>>11899995
They probably meant Commie and that chinese client that translated the game in english, both were sending incorrect data to the api calls returning lots of javascript errors, afaik KCV and LogBook only read the packets the game sends to the server and displays the data to you in a separate window, no data manipulation or ad-hoc requests to extract more info are made.

>>11899999
Oh yeah they probably meant this >>11900000
That got some players banned too. I don't even know why the hell would they use an english patch where it's quite easy to navigate the game even with just basic moon. Or they can't read moon at all.

>>11900002
Even without basic moon it's easy to navigate.

>>11900002
you have no idea what kind of cancerous bastards want to play this because it's now the hip and cool thing to do

They didn't pull the API link refresh as "anti-gaijin" thing (there's less than a thousand foreigners who actively play the game so it's not an issue), but as to close a potential security hole.

Then they realized that raping their servers wasn't really worth it (and that the API link it's a problem only if you're really dumb and post it on the Internet), so they stopped it.

I know people like to go autistic about "gaijin blocks", but they don't need such a thing: foreign IP can't register, plus there's the lottery.
Only an handful of dedicated player can be bothered, and they're not worth fucking the servers for.

>>11900007
less than a thousand? citation needed
less than 10,000 I could somehow believe, maybe.

>>11900008
maybe less than a thousand westerners

>>11900004
All you need is vocab for this game. The rest is extremely basic grammar.

>>11900008
10k users? not even near it, maybe if we count in the chinese we can reach 5k players tops.

Best way to tackle 4-4? Currently using 1BB 2DD 1CA 2CLT and the pre boss node always rape one of my ships to red

>>11900007
>Then they realized that raping their servers wasn't really worth it
I don't think so since the code is still there and they separated the login server from yokosuka last week just to decrease the load on it.
If it works they will probably try it again.

>>11900013
Honestly I found that using CVs instead of CLTs, with enough AA to blow the Death Star out of the sky, was about the only thing that really helped me get through that node. As a bonus, even if you don't run many blue planes, heavy CVs (kaga/akagi especially) have so much in-fight firepower that they help out A LOT more than CLTs mid-fight, ensuring that you can pretty consistently tenderize the boss (and nodes along the way) regardless of formation.

>>11899958
PTSD + Beaver.

Cut-in away.

>>11900013
Use double line in the pre-boss node. Also that lineup is enough, but the important thing is to plan the ship placements correctly.

>>11900013
I went with 1BB 2DD 1CA 2CVs (with enough green planes for air superiority), line ahead all the way. ASW on DDs + ring formation for the last kill.

>>11900008
Not the person you're responding to, but there's less than 200 people on the survey here (and some people answer multiple times), so 1,000 sounds like a decent ballpark estimate to me.

How do you prevent your DDs from being dead weights in 4-4? ASW gears hinder their performances in earlier nodes, whereas surface combat gears make them ineffective in the boss node.

Anyone got tips for S-ranking the 4-3 boss fight?
I've spent thousands in resources these couple days just trying to finish the quest, and on the single occasion I actually got sent to the boss node, my whole fleet got brutally beaten by the two flagship Tas.

I even tried bringing in Ms.Musashi (level 68) for help against the Tas, and she got crit to red on the 1st node.

How did 制空権確保! happened without any CV?
I thought you always need 3x air power to get it?

>>11900029
Few/no greens on their side + sufficient AA on yours. Also read the goddamned wiki.

>>11900032
>sufficient AA on yours.
You go read the wiki. AA has no impact on air combat.

>>11900029
even 0 is enough to be at least 3 times 0

>>11900029
No greens on their side

>>11900025
Yuudachi k2 and Shigure k2. Yuudachi has enough firepower to take on anything short of a heavy cruiser, while Shigure's divine AA helps out a lot against the CVs in preboss. Outfit them with AA/firepower/double attack, don't waste time on ASW gear, just run line abreast vs the sub nodes.

I mean, I'm not gonna say they're better than battleships in their position would be, but by picking good DD-chans and outfitting them for the actual problems (Wos, boss) rather than nonissues (you can get a failing rank on every nonboss node and still continue just fine) will help them be SLIGHTLY less terrible.

>>11900032
Oh the irony. No idea what you're talking about, and yet you still scramble to emulate /jp/ regulars by spamming the default READ THE WIKI line.

>>11900034
assuming 0*3 <= 0
then 3 <= 0/0
but it's not

checkmate athiest

>>11900038
But what be of the troll sub?

>>11900034
>>11900036
>航空戦では互いの艦上戦闘機による制空権の判定が行われ、（被）撃墜数などに大きく影響する。 制空権の影響を大きく受けるのが艦攻で、艦爆は比較的受ける影響が少ないと言われている。
Interesting. If I go all blue against another fleet with all blue, we both get 制空権確保! and deal the max potential damage.

>>11900041
Please go and stay go.

>>11900041
I hope you're trolling

>>11900013
Cleared it yesterday for 4-4 weekly, went BBx1 CAx2 DDx2 CLx1, no one got to red before boss node.

>>11900047
Bep with depth charge and double attack..
yes, 3 DD

that solves my problem on that troll sub.

>>11900053
Why not Yuubari or Isuzu if you're doing that?

>>11900057
Bep has far better survivability than Yubari.

>>11900047
Instead of 2CV
Drop 1 in favor off Yuubari and filled it with 3sonars+1gun. Put 3green+1red on the CV and yuubari as flagship.

>>11900057
that works too but I don't have yuubari.. how/where can I get her?

>>11900062
all 30 until you get 1 hour 24min (?) timer.

>>11900062
All-30 or sub recipe.

>>11898964
So, I heard the latest KCV had an option to pretend that you're Japanese, which caught my interest because it's something I've been playing around with as well.

I was expecting Tor shenanigans, or clever tricks with a VPN and the routing table.
Instead, I find an ugly hack with the login cookies. Words cannot express my disappointment.

This is bad for several reasons, most notably that IF DMM CATCH ON TO THIS, IT WOULD TAKE THEM MAX FIVE MINUTES TO IMPLEMENT SOME KIND OF CHECK AGAINST IT.
You might as well rename that checkbox "please ban me", because this is just ASKING for a banhammer. And it gets more and more likely the more people do it.
What happened to maintaining Gaijin players' image and all this paranoia I've seen about if something will increase your odds of getting banned?

The safe route, which I thought was what everyone was doing, is to activate VPN, get an API link (or OSAPI, it doesn't matter), deactivate VPN and connect using that link. This is safe because Kadokawa don't do region checks, and have no interest in doing so. Stepping on DMM territory with a half-assed disguise like this is ASKING for trouble.

-- uppfinnarn, author of KanColleTool, that other viewer that may not do everything, but sure as hell makes sure not to put its users at risk

>>11900064
sub recipe? the 200/30/250/30?
>>11900065
all 30 been giving me tama/yayoi most time.. most time tama I start to hate her.

>>11900068
bypassing the login is just as bad

Oh boy here we go

>>11900065
Melon-chan has a 1h 22min timer, you'd best remember it.

>>11900067
Yes, both the recipes work to get your very own Melon.

>>11900070
The difference between bypassing the login with an API or OSAPI link and this is that the former falls onto Kadokawa's territory, while the latter falls onto DMM's.

We all know which of the two are the nice guys who don't mind gaijin players and tell people not to buy resources, and which ones are Japanese Nationalist EA who make money by hosting shady porn games want Gaijins to go away.

>>11900068
That last line advertising yourself though.

>>11900074
no, both fall in DMMs territory. And they really fucked up their security to make it possible to bypass a login.

>>11900075
Oops, meant it more to back up that I know what I'm talking about than advertising. I just don't want this to end in another banwave.

>>11900074
The API thing also falls on DMM's territory. Why do you think they made that API reset that back-fired on them? And once they find some other way to implement it again but this time without it back-firing, chances are they will really do it.

>>11900068
Your safe route doesn't sound safe at all. There're people got banned because of using public VPNs. It's not many for now, but if they implement that reset API thing in the future, the risk will increase a lot.
At least I agree that the cookie hack shouldn't become a feature of KCV. If it gets too popular, DMM may catch wind of this, who knows what will happen. But the wiki, facebook fag may have been spreading it like crazy already.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22390373

I sure hope midway is arpeggio level difficulty, but the trend of historical battles that IJN lost being fuckshithard i.e., henderson makes me think midway will the the toughest event yet

Above is a gritty documentary on why I shouldn't LSC now

>>11900096
>Your safe route doesn't sound safe at all. There're people got banned because of using public VPNs.

Proof and citation needed

>>11900096
This makes me hesitant to use KCV even if I'm somewhat getting used to it. Maybe I should just play normally again: get a VPN with little to no users, log-in, then disconnect VPN.

>>11900082
No. You can do some looking into this, but the easiest way to prove it is by simply opening the IP address in your API link in a browser. You should see just the word KADOKAWA in capital letters.

Basically, Kadokawa run the KanColle servers themselves, and only check API tokens with DMM in some fashion. I'm not clear on the specifics as it's all server-to-server and thus not easily intercepted, but the rest is all on Kadokawa. DMM's site loads Kadokawa's page in an iframe, and the only part of the game that ever touches DMM (aside from the login) is looking up opponent admiral names.

The API reset thing was done by DMM, because they're the ones in charge of issuing API tokens. This is also the only part of the actual game they have control over.

>>11900096
There is no perfecty safe route, sadly. And we're not sure why those players were banned either, it might have been because of their VPNs, or it might have been something else.

But yeah, giving DMM clearly contradictory data they can use to easily identify a gaijin using a hack does not go well with me at all.

>>11900097
I thought Arpeggio event was very well balanced in terms of difficulty.
Tough encounters, short maps and easy-to-reach boss nodes.

E5's long path, nightbattle gibbing, torture chambers, etc, was just painful. That was some of the most simultaneously stressful, depressing and infuriating hours I've ever experienced.

>>11900097
They warned us months in advance that Midway will break us, and I wouldn't have it any other way. I enjoyed the Fall event immensely, nothing compares to the sheer catharsis of getting that final kill after struggling for hours.

It'll be good opportunity to level my carriers, too. The highest is only 70.

>>11900068
Guy I'm not trying to start anything, but...

1) The whole point of the API link debacle was to fight against those who bot and cheat. Unfortunately that meant that their login server took 100% of the load for every player active. Thankfully for you, that means your Tool and the Flash Projector can safely continue to use the link even if it is missing all the javascript that work in tandem with the SWF file.

2) Of course this was going to be found and used at some point. We aren't even the first to start using this. Korean players seem to have been using this for month or so.

3) There is no safe route. Your VPN IP can be banned. Your account can be banned for even being linked to a gainjin IP address. You account can be banned for using ANYTHING other than the website it is being hosted on. You assume god mode like admin service from people who want you money and who work a pretty basic web programming job.

4) Oh god dat safe route. See 3 and then add to the fact that you are now connecting using a totally different IP as to what you originally started playing with. Again something that can be easily banned. All it takes are a few grep commands on the server's logs and you can easily spot all the players who do this. Will they do this? I really doubt it.

You are like the boy crying wolf here. If they get rid of the cookie flag, we will just go back to how things were. Nothing ain't stopping me from playing with my ship waifus.

>>11900103
But if you're using KCV+API then there's nothing to worry about. You can even log in with KCV+VPN then disconnect and play. It's just like playing with browser.

>>11900106
You're the type that enjoys being stepped on and verbally assailed right?

>>11900117
No, he's the type that likes to find bragging rights in a game like this about being better than others on an anonymous image board.

>>11900114
So if I wanted to get rid of that cookie thing the latest KCV has, then I'll just have to clear the cookies stored on IE right? Then I can just go back logging in with VPN using KCV.

>>11900113
We are gaijins. We are not wanted. We love our shipwaifus too much for that to stop us.
I'm pointing out that this thing is hilariously insecure, do whatever you like with that.

One thing I'd like to correct though, is #4 there. DMM's site and Kadokawa's game servers are separate. It'd take more than a grep to find gaijins, and the admins have no idea what they're doing.

>>11900121
There's nothing more wonderful when bot people come here flaunting their 100k+ resources and 2k buckets, calling everyone who's not hoarding a scrub and wo.

>>11900122
Yes

>>11900122
Yes, just clean up everything and don't touch that button. It's just there in case the APIcalypse happens again.

>>11900126
Yea which is very true on both counts. The entire point of the ckcy key is to weed out those they do not wish to enter portions of their site. If people outside of their range gains access, most sites don't bother to do much further than that.

Take for example Sega and PSO2. Their servers are rampant with people outside of their game and all it takes is a simple use of a VPN to make an account. After that they don't care who you are or where you are, you are now a customer.

I can see the same here. All they have to do is make things more direct rather than the soft cookie way of doing things and they'd lock people they want out.

**This is an inevitability.**

Security changes and so do their means of keeping people out. Smart programmers and cheap ones at that will keep to the one piece of code and not change it until something breaks. If we become a problem or things get out of hand, they will be forced to do something about it.

Just play as normal and stop spreading fear. We adapt and we continue playing. Just cause something makes things easier doesn't mean you should scream out bloody murder. If you really wish to be secure, buy a damn VPN and be done with it.

>>11900121
No, it's no fun if you script and clear the event in 2 days with your 500k resources. The fun in events is about trading wartime stories at 4AM while getting your face bashed in, about seeing sunken level 99 Kitakamis and Nagatos and fearing whether your ships will follow their fate, and about finally getting that one last kill after despairing for hours to do it. The reward ships only feel like rewards after you've spent your blood, sweat and tears to get them.

That's why I want an event that is hard enough that people can't finish it within hours. I really liked Fall E2 in that regard, it was easy enough that experienced admirals could steam through it, but also difficult enough to pose as a significant challenge to newer players.

>>11900068
> activate VPN, get an API link
API link bypasses all of DMM's JS, as you said: "Stepping on DMM territory with a half-assed disguise like this is ASKING for trouble."

>(or OSAPI, it doesn't matter)
You will use your ip and the cookie set to 1 after disconnecting, it is the same as changing the cookie, you are doing tricks with the session too.

>>11900105
>the only part of the game that ever touches DMM (aside from the login) is looking up opponent admiral names.
The JS maintains 2 connections, one for the api_token (every 10min) and one for the security token (every 30min), cutting off VPN affects these as I remember.

>>11900126
>We are not wanted.
There was a discussion about this, we are not "not wanted", only the retarded american feminists that would rage over seeing cute girls half-naked, and they won't change cookies just to get in.

Adding the cookie trick as a feature of KCV is another matter, it is just the most convinient way, if DMM wants, they will find all gaijins anyways.

>>11900140
Oh, I'm all for making things easy. I'm also paranoid as fuck and always assume that whatever I'm hacking away at at the moment is far more capable of striking back than it really is, because preparing for that is a lot safer.

If you want to make it easy to pretend to be Japanese, bundle Tor and fire that up in a subprocess, then proxy your application's network communication through that.
Or why not bundle SoftEther VPN, I didn't check what license that's under, but it's open source and should be possible to link against or run headless in a subprocess. Or even an IPSEC/L2TP library of choice, or OpenVPN, and add the relevant IPs as exceptions in the routing table to run only those through the VPN.

I had an idea of making a daemon (Service on Windows) that just does this so that it doesn't have to bloat the viewer code or restrict the user to using a particular program to play.
There are plenty of ways to make it easy to pretend to be Japanese. The method with the cookies rubs me the wrong way, because it's insecure and has no disclaimer about this, and there's nothing that can end as badly as users mistakenly believing that they're safe when they're not.

Also sorry if I'm sounding aggressive, I still haven't eaten anything and I currently can't tell how what I write is sounding, but it's not intended to sound aggressive in any way.

>>11900162
Nah I haven't slept so I'm all over the place as it is myself so its good.

As it is, there is no safe way of playing the game even with open or closed VPN services. If I have to start using VPN services like you said, I will. But that's only if they do something about it. I was happy with just logging in with a VPN and then taking down said VPN, I'm just glad someone found an easy work around.

For now we bask in the glory days until the sun explodes over at DMM's offices.

>>11900170
Would you be interested in making a daemon/Service that just routes the game and nothing else through a VPN or Tor?
Poking around with routing tables to exclude non-KanColle traffic is far out of most people's league, but I imagine it would be quite easy to automate.
It might not be needed now, but the thought of another APIcalypse we have nothing to effectively defend against (bar system-wide VPN) makes me nervous to say the least.

>>11900068
If I worked at DMM and I wanted to ban all foreigners, it would take me about three minutes to ban KCV users and maybe thirty to ban all the public VPNs and Tor exit nodes. The limiting factor is whether or not they give a shit, not whether it's technically hard. I don't know what you're kvetching about.

>>11900186
We are already prepared for the next apicalypse with the cookies and it took them more than a half year to notice the API link exploit which was a far larger security hole than this.

>>11900194
or they knew and just didn't care

>>11900194
All this trouble started when the english translated pictures got linked onto futaba, and subsequently relinked on all the kancolle blogsites

Lesson here is to keep shit down and not be attention seeking retards

>>11898957
I didn't know what were you talking about until i saw it by myself.
Every ship has the ring.

>>11900186
As it is right now, not worth the effort. KCV already has the ability to just use a proxy, so using a pre-made daemon like TOR can easily be done and it won't affect the rest of your internet.

>>11900097
>henderson makes me think midway will the the toughest event yet
If anything, everyone is going to get it hard, except with vary levels. Fall event was pretty segregated in terms of level, E-1 and E-2 is friendly to beginners and E-4 was for more experienced ones, etc.

However, with the level-scaling,boss gauge and AOE attacks experimentations during the Appreigio event, one could imagine the potential of rape the devs could publish.

>>11900242
Jesus, I hope we'll never see those lasers again.

>>11900242
E-4 was for masochists and people that hate themselves
Oh.
You're right. That's the same as being an experienced admiral.

>>11900253
>E-4 was for masochists and people that hate themselves
Back then, it would feel like I've let down my ship daughters if I don't win E-4.

>>11900242
Arpeggio event is just too easy.
All of them can be completed in a day and you can subcheese your way through to E3 in like 1hour or so. You arent fighting against time (no hp regen) and you can just bruteforce it with your best fleet using BB, CV and CLT. You were also given super ship like Iona.

Even Fall E2 posed more problem compare to the xmas event. They cant make the event map too easy since experience teitoku can just blow through it in a day. Ironbottom sound is a pretty good difficulty gauge. You can beat it easily but if you want to S rank it and get good drop you better have a support fleet nearby. Provide a good balance between blowing resources to S rank it or just clearing it without calling support.

I've just remodeled Imuya. Now, she is hit even more often than before. What went wrong? I even tried giving her 2 turbines. The old Imuya can get through 3-2 unscathed, it's almost impossible with Imuya Kai.

So what's the resource goal before midway for you all? Also, how much did all of you have for midway when it hit, and arpeggio when it hit?

I reckon most people learnt their lessons and went full hamster mode for december

>>11900295
Oops, I meant 2-3

>>11900295
That's normal in case you didn't notice. That's why you usually level your submarines to level 70+ when they git gud again.

>>11900297
I had 20k of everything before fall event, after E-4 I knew I had no chance to do E-5 so I spent all my resources on CV crafting, then when I had 3 digits of oil, the devs announced the 1 week extension.
I had 2 weeks to prepare from nothing and I have a Musashi now.

I'm at 1k oil now and 1 week to prepare will be enough.

>>11900270
I'm not talking about the Apreggio event but some of the new mechanics introduced. Imagine E-1 being easy for newer admirals (HQ level <30) but E-4 tier difficulty for admirals (HQ level >90) or imagine the final map that doesn't allow you to whittle the boss gauge and the boss is a Demon Hime sub.

>>11900304
I tried Goya Kai lv 70, she was totally annihilated by the enemy. I don't get it, 2-3 farming was running so well with Imuya. Should I have not remodel her?

>>11900321
Do duo sub runs or run with a full sub fleet.
Sending a full sub fleet to 2-3 feels so good and satisfying for some reason.

>>11900270
The thing about Arpeggio was that it had almost no RNG. Beyond the lasers you were pretty much guaranteed the same run every time you entered a map. I'd even call 2-4 harder than the entire event because of that. I agree that Fall's E-2 was a pretty good deal because without the regen you had an entire month to clear it. A shame people couldn't understand that and wanted to give up on the entire event out of frustration from not being able to beat it in a day. That's not what a quarterly event should be about.

>>11900318
The point of level scaling wasn't to punish older admirals, it was that the entire event was one huge advertisement and they wanted brand new players to be able to experience all of it. I really doubt it's coming back unless they do another beginner event. Especially since it would be counter-intuitive to reward people out of the blue to come unprepared or to not use the marriage system.

>>11900313
Just to remind you, you were pretty lucky back then. And having extra really sooth the asspain of a surprise Yahagi.

Also, bokiis much harder to hoard than the three other res, and it's heavily speculated we will need a fair amount of it.

I personally have 61/59/88/96 (k) now, with 1600ish buckets. I plan to go back to regular crafting (Yahagi tries, radars and such) after I have at least 100k of each res - as for buckets, it's more like a personal challenge because at this point I don't see how I could run out of them...

>>11900313
>oil

>>11900331
what do you think fuel is made out of?

>>11900336
oil is black, fuel is green

>>11900340
Only green fuel is the environment friendly one.

>>11900328
>The point of level scaling wasn't to punish older admirals
It was an experimentation to scale difficulties. I don't see why it should not be back. The disparity between new intermediate players and more experienced players are getting larger in my opinion. Older players could get a linear difficulty growth with E-1 being hard in the beginning while newer and intermediate players could get expotential growth in difficulty, giving them a 'wall' in the middle. At the end, everyone will end up tearful and more poorer than they were and the devs will announce Bismarck is farmable on the last map.

>>11900336
I bet you call steel as metal.

>>11900340
>fuel is green

>>11900341
some types of gasoline do have green colour. Some fuel types have yellow green colour.

What I want for midway
- no regen
- no chip damage
- solid level scaling
- a bit better map exp
- no subcheese opportunity
- no cut-in subs all over the maps
- a bit less compass trolling but harder bosses

I want to equip my ship daughters with nuclear reactors so I don't have to bother with those boring 2-3 run anymore.

Midway is not Akagi-friendly
I sunk her already btw ;_;

>>11900348
>- solid level scaling
Screw level scaling, make it hard for everyone and make the newbies work for their stuff.

And we need more subcheesing and more sub map and more sub fun.

Sup guys!

>>11900355
Submarines are anti-fun because they work like a coin. You either win with them or loose.

>>11900355
>make it hard for everyone
Yeah, it'll be funny for new players to meet a wall of flagship BBs, right?

Sub-only maps? Sure.
Normal maps subcheesing? Nope.

>>11900313
I wish I was as good of an admiral as you.

>>11900348
>- a bit less compass trolling but harder bosses
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>11900357
Yeah, and flipping a coin to see if you get forced back by a flagship TA or a CA is super fun.

The whole game is about luck, doing sorties with subs is just more fun because there's less chances of you being forced back.

For the difficulty, most of the fun in this game is collecting ships and bragging about having rare ships.
Level scaling would completely defeat the purpose of that because you'll see newbies everywhere with the event reward, intermediate players being screwed or having a tough time because their level is high but their ships and equips arent and veteran players actually having to work for their stuff.

>>11900366
>most of the fun in this game is ... bragging about having rare ships.
Wow.

>>11900358
They're going to meet a wall of flagship BBs at some point playing the normal game, aren't they? I guess they should use level scaling to make maps like 3-2 and 5-3 as easy as 1-4. And new players wouldn't have the ships to handle a sub only map either. Midway was kind of a big deal and Shinano is going to be an actual prize; it's not going to be an event that just anybody with cheap tactics can break all the way through.

>>11900369
Normal maps are different. You have all the time to complete them. If it takes longer, so be it.
If you can't complete an event, that'll leave players with a sour feeling. I know, I couldn't complete the fall event because I started during it. And let me tell you, it felt like shit. Not because of the drops, but because the event will never be available again, and I couldn't see the end of it.

>>11900366
No one said that level scaling must mean easier time for newer players and harder time for experienced players. It just means that everyone is fucked and that depends on your level. Newer or older player will just cry and rage just the same.

ハンバーガ~

>>11900330
I was lucky, yes, but as I remember most of us had max 30k resources, level 60-70 ships, used damekons and generally had no idea how the combat worked (air superiority, orange non-sinkability, etc).

Now, we know a lot more, have Kai2 DD/BBs, level 90+ ships, 50k is considered wo lies and the event hasn't even been announced,
I really don't see how people who were here at fall event can be this paranoid.

Why do you people care about those fucking scrubs? Let them suffer they are suppose to be chewed out of the main event.

Those idiots must learn the real terror of war.

>>11900374
>>11900373
>No one said that level scaling must mean easier time for newer players and harder time for experienced players.
You dont have to say it, level scaling will make things a lot easier for newer players by making the enemies super easy compared to what a older player has to face.

Making stuff easier like the arpeggio event is not the way to go. Fall was a lot more fun because it was hard and it took you a while to complete. Sure it was frustrating and I could not complete it but I had fun and I enjoyed my time, it gave me a idea of what im going to need for the next event too.

Arpeggio had level scaling to make it easier for the newbies but it was so painfully easy that most people cleared it in a couple of days and went back to their regular schedules.

>>11900376
Because the summer event was much easier than the fall event. The devs seem pretty aware of the power creep their players are experiencing and are happy with the statistics that only 15% of players are clearing these events. With LSC as a method to get these rewards later down the line there isn't a reason for them to hold back. A lot of the extreme stockpile is in preparation for another Hatsukaze or Yahagi, maybe Ibuki since she'll have a dual remodel and you'll want multiples of her. But last time we got a couple weeks warning to explicitly have 30k. This time you've had months since they told you to hoard bauxite. That is not a good sign and it'd be insane to disregard it.

>>11900343
The difference between a high level ship and a low level ship is just placebo evasion. So the main difference between an experienced player and an intermediate player is the items. Things that can really level the playing field is event specific items (something like the type-3 ammo, craft-able during the event period), or event specific OP ships. T level scaling is bad for the game in the sense that you have no penalty for players who don't play during normal periods, and just come back for events.

>>11900380
I have a fleet to bruteforce pretty much everything. So level scaling wouldn't affect me.


The only thing I don't want is the fucking regen. Because that's just stupid and binds you to your computer.

So I guess my 200k resources and 1.8k buckets aren't enough.

I'm going to stockpile more since I'm done with LSC bullshit.

>>11900388
Yeah, now thats something they have to get rid of.
Getting rid of chip damage and regen was a step in a good direction.

>>11900378
>>11900380
There's no reason why they would implement the same system but with level scaling, you hardcore admirals will be facing a much higher difficulty for E-1 and the difficulty
would scale linearly from there while newer and less experienced players will face an expotential scale, amounting to E-4 difficulties half-way through. No one said level scaling had to be easy for newer players.

>>11900386
You're right, T-levels may not be the way. Maybe by fleet's level and T-level instead?

>>11900388
Time is your only precious resource during the event, of course the devs would attack you. You want your trophy ships, prove it by wasting your time.

>>11900376
I got walled at E-4 during the fall event and couldn't get the last kill needed after about 180 sorties. I'm fairly certain that the same thing will happen this event, so I'd like to be at least a little more prepared.

>>11900376
This >>11900399
It's not like all people prep'ing are completely paranoid, they just know that they don't know how RNG works - and that you can get fucked pretty hard by a series of bad runs.

My first attempt at fall E5 had such an abysmal rate of boss-routing than after 10h the jauge was still full, and it took me around 150 runs overall to finish E5.
I also spent around 30k/30k/40k/0 at E2 due to poor luck.

Even if we had 50% of getting Shinano by paying 10 bauxite, I'd still save over a thousand, to be on the safer side.

>>11900398
>No one said level scaling had to be easy for newer players.
Again, you dont have to say it. Level scaling will make things easier and unfair.

You have months to prepare so prepare for it instead of wishing and asking for things to be easier.

I was one of the many admirals that was stuck in E4 and couldn't get that "One last kill" but it was still fun and I got some nice ships from E3 so it was not that bad.
What they have to do is just do the same thing they did in the fall event. Make the first half of the event (E1-E3) newbie friendly and make the difficulty spike up for the later parts of the event (E4-E6).

Fall E4 was a dick though, they made E4 harder than E5 and that was a total dick move from them.

>>11900410
>unfair
What.
Why?
Especially since this is a single player game.

>>11900410
How can you prepare for months if you started recently.

>>11900385
>got a couple weeks warning to explicitly have 30k

I had 15k at the start and got all the ships I wanted except Hatsukaze. I can confirm the devs are full of bullshit.

>>11900413
Midway is probably going to be in april/june so you have a lot of time to prepare if you use the rest of this month and the next one.

>>11900410
the problem is that the longer the game lives, the harder it will be to make it challenging at some point for everyone who plays it unless they keep increasing the number of event-maps.

>>11898829
I've been lurking but haven't been able to find out, so, I'd like to ask where the data for your LSC reports come from.

>>11900412
So newer players getting to play in easy mode for the same reward is fair to the veterans?
Everyone wants an easier route to the clear reward.

>>11900417
I hope it will not be April (it's likely though) as I'll be in Japan.
Fuck

>>11900425
Yes, it's fair. What do you earn by denying new players from getting their ship? It'll end up in LSC in 2-3 months anyway.

>>11900419
They just have to get creative with new things.

Summer was the first event and it was pretty easy according to the people that were here.
Fall was all night battles and dick cut ins.
Arpeggio had crossovers and screen sweeping lasers.

Midway will have defensive battles, enemies with special anti AA in a CV event and ships that can be remodeled to two different classes.
The event after midway will probably be something related to the anime or it will be a event related to the end of the anime like the arpeggio one and you get the idea.

>>11900430
By the same argument the new player will get it in 2-3 months anyway so why make it easier for them.

>>11900430
>It'll end up in LSC in 2-3 months anyway.
There's your easy modo.
If you cant deal with the maps then wait for it and try for the ships in LSC/Crafting.

Who do I have to murder for a map that drops Yamato?

>>11900432
This will sound retarded, but...
because the reward is not only the ship, but the feeling that you successfully completed the event.
Then again, why do you care if other players also get your ship? If you're high enough, you'll get your flagship TA wall.

>>11900410
While you're right but now there's a lot more player sitting on a mountain of resources and some of them have 4 fleets full of wives. How are the devs going to make the event challenging for them when they could just plow through the event easily? Not to mention they have to design the maps so that the earlier map would be easy for the newer players. With level scaling, everyone suffers.

Or at least it should be like this. But there's too many factors to consider for a fair game so I guess a lazy implementation would simply to introduce 12 event maps and call it a day.

>>11900425
It may be easy mode for you but ideally it will be hard for them.

>>11900434
God because he hates you and me.

>>11900423
Japanese wiki, dude

>>11900435
So you feel proud to complete the game in easy mode?

>>11900435
>the feeling that you successfully completed the event.
This can be handled more gracefully by re-introducing event maps during an anniversary event or something. (With a tiny chance of dropping Yamato, etc.)

>>11900436
The only reason arpeggio had level scaling was because it was a easy modo event that was newbie friendly.

Like people before mentioned, midway was kind of a big deal and they wont turn it into some easy modo event after the whole fall deal.
The only "Level scaling" you're going to get is have one half of the event be "newbie friendly" and have the other half aimed towards veteran admirals that have been playing for a while and want their trophy ships.

If you really want a easy way out then just ignore the event and stock on resources for when they make them available in 2-3 months and go at it with LSC and/or normal crafting.

>>11900443
Are you really that retarded? They can tune it so it is HARD for new players. What is hard for veterans, is fucking impossible for newbies. And that can't be want they want as it's harder to lose new players than old ones.

No seriously. Is that really hard to understand?


And again, with teitoku level of 98, I'll probably face the hardest possible setups.

Take a break from your impending doom to read something you've read before.
http://exhentai.org/g/675426/57f1026f6c/
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/b1w8m08w0nhh6/Non-H

>>11900448
>>11900433
What. LSC is easy now?

>>11900455
With 33 unsuccessful Taihou attempts, I wouldn't say so

>>11900455
LSC is hard? really?

>>11900455
Just craft and get Taihou/Yamato.
Woah, that took skill!

>>11900454
there is no impending doom

LSC is for scrub.

Clearing Master Race here.

>>11900463
What a scrub, I bet you dont even have taihou.

>>11900457
Not everyone has the same luck as you anon. When number of LSC failures go double digit, it's pretty soul-draining. With the event, at least you can console yourself and be disappointed for a while after the event end but LSC is a classic casino trap, making you feel that tonight's the night whenever you see your bauxite/steel count going more than 6000.

>>11900459
Nothing in this game requires skill.

>>11900459
Since when is RNG skill.

>>11900467
I would argue that patience is a skill.

>>11900459
Have compass/dodge luck.
Whoa, that took skill!

Newsflash: browser games take no skill. At all.

>>11900466
it basically comes down to your abilities to gain resources, which won't increase anymore after you reach a certain point, which is reached with 4 fleets unlocked and enough subs for farming-runs.
You don't need a high-level fleet with the best possible equipment to do LSC.

>>11900457
I've seen LSC eat through 200k of each resource without full reward, whereas most people clearing event maps (even getting Yahagi) rarely use more than 100k. You have much less control over crafting than sortieing. The only "easier" aspect that I can see is that the ships aren't limited time, though that just makes duration of suffering indefinite. Don't dare bring "skill" into this unless you want to make yourself look retarded.

>>11900471
Patience is a virtue, not a skill. Which is a pointless virtue in this game, as the real deal I-wanna-be-the-marshal admirals are using automated tools.

>>11900457
Yes.

>>11900457
It's a hell.

>>11900471
I would add logistic and time management to that pool. It's not exactly Eve online level but having those two would make your life easier.

>>11900476
The definition of difficulty we have here is the effort or pain one have to go through to obtain its goal. Gathering resources is easy as fuck but there is no solution to tackle the dragon that is RNG.

>>11900483
Patience can be honed, improved and applied. Arguably, it's pretty much a 'skill'.