/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>11884149

Let's have a good discussion now. :)

>>11884149
what is op image from?

>>11884175
Honey Came Lab - Practice

CD from C84 and you can find it from the rapethelolis url -> folder c84.

Their previous cd is in folder M3

>>11884160
sent ;-)

>>11884160
m or n?

>>11884182
That's the one with the melonpan song, right?

>>11884488
yep

>>11884488
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EPtxJUQr-s

I love this song.

>>11884553
That's haunting as fuck

>>11884488
>>11884553
I don't like them much but that song is catchy as fuck.

Not really news but ARM composed and wrote the OP track for this season's anime called "D-Frag!". Chaotic composition as always.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw_EYYsY2e0

The vocals are credited to "IOSYS jk Girls" [イオシスjkガールズ], who exactly are they?

Also Katakiri Rekka's CD and Haitai Nanafa OP single when?

>>11884149
hmmm

After going through the op I liked 青葉りんご the best of all the artist. Good range and good songs.

>>11887858
Love Me Love La Bride is so fucking good it blows my mind every time.

>>11887870
That was the song that made me check her out.

I feel kinda bad getting into denpa in 2013 with all these years of opportunity.

Anyone remember Miko Miko Nurse?
Well, the composer (柏木るざりん) and vocalist (chu☆) made a new unit called Chu☆ing Love and they released their first song, it's the OP for the upcoming eroge 恋愛まで選択肢ひとつ:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfFQ2x9d4DY

This is great news and I hope they keep going.

>>11890266
I don't think it's possible to forget Miko Miko Nurse.

Anyway, I can't wait for the full version.

>>11890266
The chorus is pretty good.

Does anyone have the latest IOSYS album? It has some pretty good tracks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gceO_uNW1I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJlxEa1ixvA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcH28Xj9Z18

>>11884149
Where is Hiei >:

>>11892257
Im　here :)

>>11892257
Im here:)
I was just watching this thread

>>11891909
Holy fuck why is ARM+山本椛 so good

>>11884149
I'm not a lolicon or anything but I want to fuck both hard.

>>11892846
They don't look loli to me.

>>11891909
IOSYS - げきかわ☆ヴァンピン
https://mega.co.nz/#!LAATAJCb!T2h-9ynTa5dLnrDTLBInv3YI5-oJOZigV9APKQpvSCQ

confetto - ときめき☆アンサンブルvol.2
https://mega.co.nz/#!7NBUEShS!IODLDR6insL2MSf0iAfOTj8nb1xqZAzSuPvNLY0K0X8

Innocent Key - Love Princess
https://mega.co.nz/#!3EpgTYbb!LmyvM1xOomKCM6iIcNIhImTp0QURdMFYzpY6ZkyB7sw

Tracks 3 and 5 by Task and かたほとり.

>>11894109
I am excite.
Thank much.

>>11894109
This is so good thank you !

>>11894109
For the translator enthusiasts out there, the title of this album translated from Gyaru to English is: Very Cute ☆ Vampin

>>11885165
>jk
acording to vgmdb they are Momiji Yamamoto, Takaisan, and Chiyoko
http://vgmdb.net/album/43071

>>11894121
>03 ゆんゆんコズミカ
That's Nanahira? Seriously?
That voice is soft and fluffy as FUCK, that can't be the same person no fucking way holy fucking shit fuck

>>11895065
It's like nomico all over again when she sang Bad Apple!!

>>11895066
did nomico sang bad apple?
when?

>>11895266
What? nomico is the actual singer of Bad Apple.
>The song is sang by Nomico.

>>11895266
What? nomico is the actual singer of Bad Apple.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzEUeWnV73U
>Vocal by nomico.

VERY MELON

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykn1frcLu80

I was wondering how many denpa musician mean to make denpa songs.
about my case, necomimi☆spacenoid is a band that plays extreamly pop music, but denpanosekai said my songs are denpa.
in Japan, there held denkyun which is an event of denpa song, and they invited Kashiwagi Ruzarin for talk show, and he said when he wrote Miko Miko Nurse, he didnt mean to write denpa song.
this is very interesting theme for me.

>>11895840
>Miko Miko Nurse
Oh man, now THAT brings back a lot of nostalgia.
The internet was a strange place several years ago.

>>11895847
Miko Miko Nurse is one of the early days of denpa song, and Ruzarin's talk was very impressive.

>>11895847
I miss those days.

>>11895840
This has been mentioned before, I think it's very common where artists have made denpa songs accidentally their first time, I can think of KOTOKO, gdgd Fairies OST, or Kill me Baby OP (by EXPO).

>>11896230
this is an interesting theme. I'll check them.

>>11892846
B-but they are my WAIFUS! >:(

New song credited to ARM and IOSYS jk Girls. Cover of Konayuki.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbIL_ePabwM

Is Nekomimi Mode denpa?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNWr_Jlx6p0

I love denpa, but it would take me forever to listen to everything so I just download shit at random. The only circle I follow very closely is ポヤッチオ. Can you guys recommend any albums from M3-32 or C85 that would be must-listens (or just whatever you like the most because I'd probably like it too)?

>>11898611
Isn't all "moesong" dempa?
Again, anybody even knows how to clearly define dempa?

>>11884149
THANK YOU SO MUCH, I've been looking for this type of music for a while now, but couldn't find the right term. You just made my fucking month.

>>11898634
For the love of god, please do not restart this discussion.

>>11898611
wikipedia says so, so it must be

Tokimekiおにく has been stuck in my head for 2 weeks

>>11898634
Some moesong is denpa. Think of one of those Venn diagrams.

I do think Nekomimi Mode is denpa due to the direction of moe (i.e. denpa-kei moe). If you've seen the OP you've noticed the extreme fetishization and disconnect of signs (one episode just has cat ears where the girl should be). I think that "disconnect" is one of the principle attributes of denpa. Actually, if you've seen the show, it's very involuted and quite denpa.

>>11898634
http://www.geocities.jp/rotter/essay/moesong.htm

>>11899037
Watched it when it aired, it gave me loli vampire fetish. I really like when the details in the OP changes in every episode.

>>11898634
This image works.

From what I've seen, they come from completely different things but ultimately converge in the sense that many moe songs are also denpa songs because they share traits (self-referencing, comical, parodying, over-the-top, chaotic, fetishistic, creepy, whatever), but not always. Not all moe songs are denpa songs, and not all denpa songs are moe songs.

http://www.geocities.jp/rotter/essay/moesong.htm

VERY MELON could be an example of a non-moe denpa song >>11895333 - besides the ones often posted here like Machinegun on Winter and other cool shit.

>>11898624
I suggest looking for individual songs in denpa.omaera.org[1], the dempa_bot[2], the old denpa song guidebook[3] and denpa song polls[4]. Also MOSAIC.WAV is a good starting point for moe stuff I think.

1 - http://denpa.omaera.org/whatis.html#2
2 - http://twitter.com/dempa_bot
3 - http://sound.jp/dempa_song/
4 - http://wsong.net/held.html

>>11899135
I thought it was a pretty good show. Really moe, and occupies a peculiar position with the viewer. It's hard to get into it because of how playfully self-aware it is, but it does manage to draw you in somewhat, if only for the characters (the story is pretty stupid).

Also that OP got stuck in my head like mad.

>>11898634
I cant imagine what song do you indicating as moe song.
please tell me the example.

>>11899355
The stuff certain eroge and anime openings are made up of, i think. Main focus is on the moe qualities of the fictional characters in the song.

Something like ななひら or Shaking Pink, I guess. It's easier to say what it isn't. For one, anything without a character singing I would not count toward moesong.

>>11899135
>Watched it when it aired, it gave me loli vampire fetish.

Nothing wrong with that~

>>11898733
That and Runner's High for me.

That album is gold.

>>11903114
Runner's High is amazing. I've put it on repeat for more times than I'm comfortable posting.

>>11903283
>>11903114
>>11898733
I've been listening to the crossfade ever since it first went up and I've been listening to nothing but that album ever since it was uploaded

Please help me

While we're talking about songs we can't stop listening to:
スウィーテストトキメキMAXデンジャラスハニーピュアハート is so good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gceO_uNW1I

Does anyone have the lyrics/booklet-scans?

>>11903283
>Runner's High
By who?

>>11903461
Good album overall. iosys shop has it and they ship overseas.

>>11903461
That and み～こ's song are my favorites from that album. I would not mind seeing み～こ do more collaborations outside of MOSAIC.WAV.

I want to make rad denpa tracks but it'd be impossible for me to get a vocalist
im jealous of the denpa composers out there

>>11904285
Try getting good music skills making songs using Vocaloid, then go look for vocalists in Nicovideo/Nicolive. Many would be happy to have a musician to compose for them; although it seems harder to find vocalists willing to sing denpa, for obvious reasons.

5 years ago I'd have tried it, but I'm a lazy fuck now.

>>11904285
what do you mean "red denpa"?
for my case, it was very hard to look for human vocalist.
I used Japanese SNS "mixi" and I open my songs at myspace, then some people told me that they want to sing in my songs.
I met every vocalist and go to karaoke and have some talk and chose which vocalist is good for us.
unfortunately , my songs wasnt liked at NICONICO, so I chose the complicated way.

and it depends on which language do you want to be sung English or Japanese.

toromi a shit

>>11904490
you a shit

>>11904331
he meant "rad", which means "awesome", not "red"

>>11905103
oh Im sorry. I misread.

>>11903461
世界で一番萌え～丸!!

>>11905770
あぁ～

Reposting until it gets played on national radio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjNcJC9p6gU

>>11884149
Is Japan only country which makes denpa music or does any one know anything similar which isn't made in Japan? I have been wondering this all day!

>>11905860
Bubblegum pop, I guess. Groups like Aqua, Toybox, Cartoons...

>>11905951
bubblegum pop is trash. Never say that again.

Any other suggestions?

>>11905971
Don't be rude.
takeshi often posts about foreign artists.

>>11905860
i'd consider harsh noise, some abstract music and hardcore techno denpa music.

>>11905860
Isn't lolicore dempa too?

>>11905951
>>11905971
Actually it has a lot of similar elements. Nonsense lyrics, earworm qualities, sometimes features suggestive or explicit lyrics dressed up as sweet/cute. You can also consider it to be simultaneously an exaggeration of the qualities of pop music and embracing those qualities at the same time, something denpa does with different elements.

Of course it's not actually denpa since you really can't have denpa without the Japanese subculture elements it plays on. But it does have a lot of similarities.

>>11906136
Denpa-kei is a bit more abstract/complex than that, I think.

>>11906181
I don't think so.

>>11906018
Sorry for being rude. :(

>>11905860
Calling a western song denpa is the same of calling western cartoons anime.

ONE! TWO! ONE TWO SAN SHI!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hcag0nzkNtU

>>11906205
That's retarded.

Anime is "Japanese cartoon" and dempa is some sort of umbrella term for sightly related genres of music. Is totally different.

>>11895333
This is amazing.

>>11906224
Denpa is called psychedelic in the west.

>>11906227
Sure? Show me 3 "psychedelic" western songs about schoolgirls or snacks.

>>11906225
>>11895333
Brrrrrraah!!
BuRRRRAHH!!

>>11906229
That's like expecting western cartoons to about school girls and candy instead of slapstick humor and furry animals. Just because Japan has a schoolgirl fixation doesn't make denpa any less psychedelic.

>>11906225
>>11906232
Norio makes everything better.

trudenpa incoming bitches

>>11906232
>>11906239
Are there any other denpa songs like this? I like both this kind and moe denpa but I haven't heard much of the former.

I wonder if this counts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToH9efTPF-s

>>11906181
I wish people would stop posting about lolicore in denpa threads.

>>11906238
Well, then show me 3 dempa-like psychedelic songs

>>11906249
I'll give you three Beatles songs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap6kSV_U45o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVf5Cr4M-F8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aOJGJD-SQc

>>11906262
That don't even remotely feels like dempa.

Try http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GugsCdLHm-Q at least, it may pass as a "slow" dempa song.

>>11906273
At least Revolution Number 9 should count, that's practically the definition of denpa right there.

>>11906279
Well, that one yes, but not the other two.

Again, dempa isn't a well defined genre.

it's very interesting theme.
it's an instrumental, but I think this is a kind of denpa.
Frank Zappa G spot tornado
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etY29UONaHg
I know few people would agree with me. but if you think about denpa, you cant skip the influence from post punk new wave and progressive rock(I dont know if this phrase makes sense in English speaking countries.this is kind of King Crimson, Yes or E,L & P).

I have never listened to a denpa song before.

What albums are essential first listens?

>>11906546
Im not so familiar with denpa like other guys here, but UNDER17's three albums are essential.

>>11906564
Darn, they aren't in the two music download links that the OP gave.

>>11906575
these three albums are worth buying,and if you alright about used ones, these are not expensive.
If you are worried about the quality, check Youtube.

>>11906677
0.1 % of /JP/ buys Japanese stuff.


>>11906564
and you fucker. learn to search stuff from the WWW.

AND JUST FOR THE FUCK SAKE PICK UP RANDOM ARTIST AND LISTEN.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2qEcoOFRtA

>>11906698
>0.1 % of /JP/ buys Japanese stuff.
/jp/ doesn't even have 1,000 users. And even if it did, way more than one person buys stuff.

>>11906705
/jp/ actually has 1% of the entire 4chan population, so that's like 10,000 people. Not sure how many actually post.

>>11906710
/jp/ gets 3,000 posts a day, and more than three people paid a few thousand dollars for the privilege of attending C85 in person. There are way fucking more people ordering shit online than that.

>>11906546
See >>11899153

>>11906716
He obviously didn't mean literally 0.1%, he's saying buyfags are a minority, which is true.

i want to fuck a denpa

>>11906698
I cant get why you mad about me.
I dont want to talk about piracy anymore, but you guys have to respect the musician.

>>11906774
Please don't mind him, he is mad at everybody.

>>11906782
thanks kindly.
but I think the more people buy the stuff they made, the more they get to enough motivation to make next ones

>>11906774
you respect musicians by listening to their songs, not buying their albums

>>11906774
I think he wanted to reply to >>11906575

>>11906789
hmm...the way of expression of respect differs, but I think buying stuff motivate the musicians to make next stuff.

Thinking about the amount of material by or affiliated with Nanahira, it seems like so much and so quickly. Does she ever sleep?

>>11906575
Im not familiar those stuff.
so why dont you download all the stuff uploaded at the site?

It's been a while since some Egurite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyhKX3TaOu8

>>11906816
I love this.

>>11906698
Is it just me or does Nomico sound a little slow?
Not in a bad way, it makes her sound a lot cuter.

>>11906799
I really want to buy their stuff, I just don't know how or where, people in here don't like to share their ways to buy denpa goods...

>>11906840
Here have a better one, also, ignore the finger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC8lMGlE_Ec

>>11906843
I like her voice in that one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPgWPykXH7k
Her slower songs are nice as well.

>>11906842
i dont know where you live, but I saw amazon America,they seems to be able to buy.

>>11906840
What do you mean, slow? Like, not very smart? What a horrible thing.

>>11891909
where can i buy it

>>11906840
It surely must be intentional, but I love it.

My favorite tracks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf-oVSHSyMs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raJsw0MNUcU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF11m_bcYQI
(also live) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbLZ6CMguvU

>>11906843
>ignore the finger
Fuck, can't unsee. Don't they even take a look at the cover art before pressing this shit?

>>11906855
Like I said, it emphasizes the cuteness in her voice.

>>11906872
>Randoseling
One of my favorites of hers. Hell, most of the Mitsudomoe vocal songs are top tier.

>>11906853
What country are you from, my ESL friend?

>>11906857
iosys online store

>>11906853
I live in the US, Amazon? let me check...

>>11906948
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dpopular&field-keywords=%22under17%22&rh=n%3A5174%2Ck%3A%22under17%22

>>11906716
>few thousand dollars
more like 50dollars to get there

>>11906985
What?

>>11906990
Fare to and from for three days. No idea why you would be staying in an overpriced hotel in tokyo.

>>11906998
50 bucks is still ridiculous, even if you were in japan.

>>11906998
>>11906985
He was clearly referring to people outside of Japan.

>>11907011
why the fuck would spend a couple thousand dollars to go to a single event

>>11906897
sorry, I dont know .
check amazon where you live.

I want to get into denpa song. What is a good starter that's not -too- odd but poppy enough available from the Mediafire folder?

>>11907473
Petite Rhythm Infinity (C85) is a pretty good sample of current artists.

>>11907521
You're lucky I can read Japanese easily! Thank you for the suggestion. I found it just fine and will start listening to it soon.

>>11906492
>but if you think about denpa, you cant skip the influence from post punk new wave and progressive rock
I was just thinking about that recently. I was noticing a lot of bits in songs that make me think of early 80's progressive rock. Clearest example is Naoko Thunder Vernier II. It's that space fantasy sound, but also other things.

>>11907604
yes.it's just one of many elements.
many elements consist of denpa, and I think most of the denpa composers have been through such kind of progressive rock, and make another things.

>>11906774
I wasn't mad at you

I just failed tehehee~

I wanted to quote this newfag
>>11906575


but I end you up quoting you. Sorry.

I AM ALWAYS MAD hahaha

>>11907628
Would Captain Beefheart be considered denpa?

>>11906842


Here. Enjoy

http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,566.0.html

I have bought through him many times, but I think that you will fail to deliver now that I have given you an affordable method. Those are just excuses if you ask me " I would buy if I could " , now go and prove me wrong,please.

Hiei should start a business like this. Charge 1000 yen per order or something like that.

>>11907756
doujincore also does a buying service, but it's direct from events.
http://doujincore.com/

also if you search "Japan proxy service" you can find many sites to buy from tora no ana and other sites.

going to events, making lists, contacting buyers, etc etc, actually adds up to a lot of work. i would never want to run a proxy service. just buying stuff for friends at events was enough to drive me crazy. i admire doujincore's hard work for such a low price.

>>11907824
>http://doujincore.com/


Those prices are horrible. I prefer that other guy who goes through events with low cost and no limit how much you buy.

>>11907731
Hoy hoy
Is she a boy?

>>11907756
>This post is awaiting approval by a moderator

What the heck is up with that site?
Anyway, I'm giving it a shot and see if that works.

And...
Why do you doubt me, anon?
Do I look like a lier to you?
Is that what you think?

Oh, I forgot to ask for nanahira's CDs, oh well...

>>11907865

Well typical /JP/ nerd is always like, b-but, but, but, but, but....


Anyways I am proud if I made a change.
I think you had to post 5 posts then you wouldn't need approval anymore or something like that.

Also never forget us. That means if you buy some new CD don't forget what the community has give to you. Wink wink.

>>11907876
I just hope the mods approve my post soon, I want to see if all this works, all I want is to get my denpa goods!

>>11907957
They will, but remember that guy has a life too so don't expect the fastest service. He has work and life.

>>11907728
sorry.Im not get used to communicating in English.
I wish I could get through the barrier of languages.

>>11907731
I think he is denpa in a sense judging from what he did, his voice was quite opposite from denpa though :)

>>11907756
>>Hiei should start a business like this. Charge 1000 yen per order or something like that.

haha, that's a good idea, but I've ship abroad only once :)

>>11908044
>>11908048
>>11908050
>I wish I could get through the barrier of languages.
Just keep posting and lurking here, English is the second language for a lot of us.

And don't make three post when you can make one with the tree links, you fag.

>>11908053
Don't throw around insults so casually. It makes us look less like the gentlemen we are.

>>11908084
Insults are kind of second nature for 4chan.

We're not a very polite place, but nobody should take the insults seriously. Its casual slang at this point. hiei probably understands this by now.

Actually, are futaba posters generally rude? Even jokingly?

>>11908084
Sooner than later he's going to realize that we are a bunch of mean social rejects.

>>11908121
All otakus are rejected in one way or another. Hiei looks like an otaku too, so he is one of us.

What do you guys listen denpa on?
I have my Note 3 going to my Onkyo preamp and amp, then to a couple of Bose speakers.

>>11903803
みかん汁

>>11908331
>Bose speakers
That's a good goy

>>11908331
PC > Fiio E07k > Beyerdynamics DT770 pro 250 ohm

>>11908331

LAPTOP -> FIIO E10 -> Ultrasone Pro 900

>>11908386
Oh, and phone > shitty earbuds when I'm at the gym

>>11907846
90%+ cheaper than >>11906716 and saves you the trouble of going through all the bullshit.

>>11907473
This has been asked three times in this thread.
There's a denpa song guide linked in the OP specifically made for people interested with varied examples, please read that.

>>11908119
That's true but we didn't have people throwing free insults around before in these threads, there are obviously new people here that need to lurk more.

>>11908388
Outside

Ipod Classic -> Fio E11 -> Shure 215 cl


>>11908391

I recommend Shure 215 CL for you. Wire made out of Kevlar and they have awesome sound and price is decent 90-100€

Why is 茶太 so good?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoHsYTt53Ak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IrvuzGjCoM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7fXxgPQSyY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQxDvSMk8lg

>>11908427
>Shure 215 CL
Thanks, I actually bought them after reading your post. I've been looking to buy some good IEMs for a while now and had my eye on them for a while as well.

The teekyuu songs are so great.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21188846
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21542421

And still waiting for the full version of the third, fucking when?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyxXJWCBNnU

Also does anyone have the Yutori-chan OP single?
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10487961

>>11908053
yes I'll try.but Japanese English education is not so efficient ,so I have to do it by myself.

and I'll be careful for that

>>11908084
I didnt take it insult.I took it an advise.
sometimes the barrier of language does good.it moderates the sharpness of words.
you guys casually use f-word,but i think most of you are specifically gentleman.
I always wanna be polite even if we dont talk in person, so I use rude words rarely, I use a certain name("hiei" is my real first name, and im not dissing anonys) ,and I choose the words.it's just my own rule, and I dont mean forcing you guys.
to tell the truth, I've never used 2ch in Japan.the words are too harsh for me, and 4chan is rather comfortable for me.

>>11906677
>these three albums are worth buying,and if you alright about used ones, these are not expensive.
I know the market for used material is big in Japan, but I don’t really see the point in buying used digital goods. The person I would be buying it from most likely already has a pristinely ripped/scanned copy, and I'm not supporting the creator in any way when I buy used.

Write parody idol song, get great denpa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKfxR8SYwCg

>>11908636
ahh... I forgot the critical point.buying used items doesnt mean supporting the musicians.that's true.

>>11908641
That's genius.

I love the harmonizing loli voices in 不思議の国の３姉妹

Sometimes when I fap they appear in my head

>>11908831
Nyanpasu~!
I know what ya mean, though I can only do that with Momo.

>>11908831
Man, I was hoping they was a song with real loli voices instead of just high pitched woman squealing like normal.

>>11909289
yametekere
yametekere
gebagebababaya.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZZk0tP49H8

>>11908641
I'm so pissed that there isn't a version of this song that isn't live

Could someone explain to me the general meaning behind the lyrics of the song "ろりこんでよかった〜" by ちぃむdmp☆? I've been listening to it a lot and now I'm really curious.

Btw, this song is really cute. I really like it when they go "mukyu mukyu".

>>11909353
Can't get enough of those loli voices.

>>11911179
I think it's a woman complaining that's she's childish looking and then saying she's happy someone is interested in her, even though he would have to be some sort of pedophile.

>>11909289
That would be a great gimmick. Strange that no denpa artist has gotten a genuine 小学生 to do songs, just grab a cousin or something..

>>11908831
I want to hear that now. Where can I find it?

>>11911231
Just copy and paste the title into youtube.

>>11911179
It's not "by" them, it's a cover of a Miku song by Takebo3.

The singer is a woman who looks and acts childish, failing when she tries to act like an adult, singing to someone who likes her just the way she is.

>>11911232
>小学生
The problem with that is having to deal with the parents plus licensing, royalties and other legal issues.
Plus as WC Fields once said, "Never work with children or animals."
In the long run the negatives vastly outweigh the positives.
I remember IOSYS's 3rd touhou album, track 9 永遠と須臾の恋人 was sung by a kindergartner but after that only used adults in their albums.

>>11911380
You could donate all proceeds to some child charity organization. Then you don't have to deal with the money problems and even the parents and moral organizations think you are a great guy.

>>11911232
Maybe someone should make denpa remixes of Ashida Mana songs.

>>11911349
Alright man, alright... I didn't know. Thanks for telling me anyway.

>>11911179
>>11911215
>>11911349
Pretty much what the others said, thats why they go "lolicon de yokata wa~" in the end.

>>11907965
>Work and Life.

That sounds kind of poetic.

Anyway, post was approved, guy answered and money will be send!

Too bad I can't get Mofumofu just yet...

>>11911981
mofumofu is a shit

Even after going through the OP I still have no clue what makes denpa denpa. I feel like several anime each season has an OP or an ED that is denpa.

>>11912330
Well, a lot of dempa is anison or geson.

>>11912334
Yet that doesn't make it denpa.

>>11912338
Just lurk a little in the archive faggot, nobody knows how to exactly define dempa.

Is barbie girl denpa?

Who good denpa here?

UNDER17@いちごgo!go!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSH2NfP3qug
UNDER17@天罰!エンジェルラヴィ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmKMd-ZGB7o
KOTOKO & 詩月カオリ - ワタシはウタがヘタ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV6aRjjJdkw
Kill me no Baby! Extreme mindfuck version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EdW_9xgmJk
お兄ちゃんどいて！そいつもっと殺せない！Summer！
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCM3tXWW0dA
Lifeる is LOVEる!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb9b7-CH9SM

Did you know that there was some faggot in /jp/ 2011 that sang his translated version of おでんぱ☆ラブガール?

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1cmSI7DD5Nt

I can't believe I had it saved.

>>11912544
I still have that drunk anon's rendition of some silver forest and umineko songs

>>11912552
Post them

>>11912552
Stop shaming drunk anons.

I felt already enough cringe from that last vocaroo someone posted.

Anyone remember the Endless ED? Got addicted to it again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtfII6dxHN8

Also the ED sequence is lewd as fuck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgDTyj8Qxbg

>>11909353
wow, i love this song.
Hidari Bokuzen & Himawari Kitties.
are you Japanese? if not , it's incredible to know this song.
I used a sample from this on necomimi spacenoid's omnibus+4 last song.
how about this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSym6zJ-mNU
this is not original one.this song is very old, and sang by a boy.
the singer's voice isnt so loli though...

>>11916793
I loved all the music from Needless. Have you tried the character song album? It has a few gems.

Mio's character song sounds like an ordinary ballad, but it has some denpa elements to it
http://youtu.be/mPfjm3oZQec

What's the relationship between hiei and mandi?

>>11916793
The ED was arguably the best thing about Needless. Loli humping and kissing always is. And catchy as hell, too.

>>11918541
she is my best friend.
we go to the club event and dance, I go to the club when she play DJ, and make something together like at Comiket.
but there is absolutely no that you expect like we go out.

>>11919174
Hello, sorry to bother you. Are you on soundcloud? Just wondering.

>>11921159
no problem.
here's my soundcloud
https://soundcloud.com/hiei_type78m
im a free custumer, so there are not so much songs.
there are former necomimi☆spacenoid Monmon SpacenoidZ including horn section,who are not good player though.

>>11894109
ARM is a mad genius. Thank you very much!!

I listened to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkPOiPWbQsU
and I liked it a lot.
Can somebody help me with names of the highlighted files?
Also can you guys recommend a similar artist?
Thank you very much.

>>11922892
I'm sorry please ignore the part about the names.

>>11922892
Are you launching the program in a Japanese locale, and extracting with a program in a Japanese locale?

doujin denpa a shit

>>11922990
your taste is totally not shit bro like fo realz yo

>>11923027
I know, I've spent years refining my taste.

>>11908331
grado sr80i or my ATH-AD700, and nothing else. I want some good speakers but those are expensive as shit, I am better off with a new amp somewhere between $50-$100.

It feels like a waste to have two pairs of headphones in a similar quality bracket, I try to use the grados outside now because they are less conspicuous.

>>11907521
I don't know how I didn't catch that one yet.
素敵なはにぃ・たいむ is the best song from that one.

>>11908331
ATH-WS50

Will never get tired of CKPing. Anyone want to CKP with me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFG_UxS0xyo

>>11924333
What album is this from?

>>11924333
Why not make some?
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22015523

>>11884149
I never heard Honey Came Lab, and I liked them quite a lot. What happened to their website? Is that the only album they released?

>>11924543
There's one more release titled Honey planet, available on RtL. The website seems normal for me.

>>11924333
Only if you MOKS with me aftewards.

>>11922925
You seem to know something about this.

I'm different anon, but I need your or someone else's help,

I bought this CD and I ripped it, but when I try to add artist it shows as ?????? when the circle name is 第二生徒会室,

Why it does it when other JP texts work in my computer and everywhere overall except here.
CD is this if any one is interested. Sounds fucking heavenly. (demo)
https://soundcloud.com/seitokai2/c85xfd-15-lover
Anyways please, someone help me to fix this annoying problem.

>>11925195
Explorer sucks at reading tags.
Does your media player read them as ????? too? If so, your ripping software probably failed, did it tag the song titles wrong too?

Lastly you could just retag them, I recommend foo_masstag for foobar2000, or Easytag.

>>11925202

I use winamp and it reads them as ????? . I used EAC (Exact audio copy) to rip this.

I download latest version of easytag and it didn't detect any files in the folder while it detect files in some other music folders.

Any other solutions to solve this? I tried to play with foobar, but I didn't get the tagging to work even though I read tutorial from wiki.


---

>> Just that this doesn't go offtopic. Denpa music is really nice.

>>11925228
Try mp3tag.

>>11925228
>I tried to play with foobar, but I didn't get the tagging to work even though I read tutorial from wiki.
What do you mean? To tag a track you just Right click -> Properties, then write your tags there.

>>11925279
Thanks.


>>11925286
Thanks.

I got it solved. I was kinda retarded with this problem, so thanks for solving it.
--Thanks everyone!!--

>>11925296
It's okay. My dick is sometimes retarded and it gets hard for no reason.

Guys what should i listen denpa on?

I want to listen denpa in good quality.

>>11925708
/g/ has threads about this.

>>11908331
A pair of DT880 headphones ran through a cheap Little Dot amp.

>>11925195
I'm interested in listening to this, would you care to share? (It's okay if you don't want to though!)

Man why does bermei.inazawa keep appearing on my hentai EDs? Last time I found him with Katakiri Rekka in Mizugi Kanojo:
http://www.mediafire.com/listen/fyhiuaf1055jp4g/mizuho.ogg

Now I find him in Futa-bu.
http://www.mediafire.com/listen/o2lf1lxc2s1zbiv/futanarinarini.ogg

It's the same weird feeling when I accidentally learn that some favorite singer or VA of mine is related to eroge.

A while ago an anon posted a link to a song called まきいづみ時空へようこそ, but it's from a drama CD so I can't just look for more songs by the artist or something. Anyone have recommendations for more like it?

>>11922925
Thank you. I did what you said and its working fine now.
Is there any other songs that is similar to おでんぱ☆スタジオ songs?

>>11928293
I don't know anything exactly like it, but you might find this list of particularly mind-melting denpa songs interesting:

http://matome.naver.jp/odai/2137559961702966501

>>11925789
Speaking of futanari, could anyone help me get my hands on this? ふたなり音楽CD by M.I.Factory and ぬとぬとパラダイス. I liked M.I.Factory's ちっぱいぱんCD from the RapeTheLolis mediafire and want to hear what gags they have about my favorite fap material, but I can only find it on Share and PD hash databases, and I can't use P2P on this connection.

>>11928701
I tried finding it on PD before but couldn't find anything, but then again I'm not really good at this stuff.

>>11906247
wtf is lolicore? this is just a good remix of one of my favorite ななひら songs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmAdRJcBWr0

>>11928468
hah just got to the usatei one I am enjoying this too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgPsuodep2w&index=18&list=PL248F7113583F3068
Hey guys kinda new to the scene this has been my fav. so fav so far anyone else know a song songs with a similar style?
>Climatic, Slow up take leading up to a long held vowel with faster part in between.
My Japanese is still pretty bad so finding this kinda stuff is difficult.

>>11928701
>>11928962
Thirding this, I searched for it before but didn't have any luck either. Wanting niche CDs is suffering. ちっぱいぱんCD was fucking great.

>my favorite fap material
You're a gentleman.

>>11925789
The full version of みずほ was released at Comiket in 2009.
http://www.ooedo.jp/presented/oemm-0125.htm

But as you can predict, we probably will never have this CD.

I hadn't realized that すているめいと！ was uploaded on Nyaa, go get it niggas.

>>11929389
Got it, it's pretty based. High energy and off key at parts makes for a good song.

original trudenpa person here

it's late, so I don't want to get into another internet argument (I just had one on another forum about HOOK-SOFT).

but remember my teachings, remember what I said about denpa. fuck the moe pop, if you like it then that's OK but denpa is denpa and it's different from moe pop.

MOSAIC.WAV did another CD, guess I'll have to wait another 5 years until I can enjoy more denpa.

Love Cheat! is the best denpa song in existence.

>>11930646
Teach me your ways. Who are the best trudenpa artists?

>>11930646

fuck off already

>>11930686
The Beatles

>>11930686
pilot makes the best NEET targeted denpa.

just listen to those lyrics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96kwILL35ig

>>11930646
Please stop trolling, the first people to talk about denpa culture here were more than one guy, and they used proper capitalization. Besides they never used the term trudenpa.

i think trudenpa argument would never end.
definition of trudenpa varies what we have listened to.
but I dont think it's just a waste of time.
what is the trudenpa does each guy thinks is very thoughtful.
but i think if somebody denys the definition of trudenpa , it doesn't mean nothing.there're a lot of definition trudenpa each guy has.
it's a lot of fun to listen to the voices of trudenpa definitions, but these would be spoilt when somebody denies the other's.
I wanna see more trudenpa definition each guy has.

>>11931014

actually there wasn't more than one guy, there was just me, and then in the next threads it was always the same person who kept trying to use things I had said to prove me wrong, he didn't realize he was arguing with the person he just learned from. no, I never used the word 'trudenpa' because I think it's a stupid term in the first place, but it was what everyone remembered me as anyway.

as for capitalization, that's just silly. I only didn't use it last night because I was tired, but now I'm not gonna use it at all.

>>11930686

'tru' denpa doesn't exist today. even if someone today made a track like 冬もマシンガン it would only be an attempt to copy this style, so it's not really 'true' denpa.

this is the problem with many of forms of art that derive from an underground culture, it even happened with the 'moe' phenomena in anime. you can't really find much unironic 'moe' anymore like you could in the late 90s/early 2000s, because everything that tries to be moe is basing itself upon standards of that which came before. the same is true for denpa, so called 'denpa' (moe pop) groups/artists just try and recreate UNDER17, Toromi or MOSAIC.WAV, they making a copy based on preconcieved notions of denpa music. I will defend MOSAIC to the end, but I'd be lying to myself if I said they don't do the same thing today with many of their moege OPs. in fact, there is a big audible contrast in MOSAIC.WAVs work for this reason, they are tied between making the music they feel (denpa) and the music they are expected to make ('denpa'). The denpa they make is almost unrecognizably different from the denpa people expect.

akihabara is poisoned by commercialism and is also acting as a shell of its former self in order to meet the expectations of those who visit it with preconceived notions, therefore it is no longer (or at least, currently no longer) a good basis for something like denpa culture to flourish on - this is why denpa has stagnated into moe pop.

>>11931715
So if trudenpa doesn't exist today, how about older artists.

>>11931072
I've heard that this argument also exists in Japan and people have different definitions, is it true?

>>11931715
So it was just one person forcing his definition on us? That makes it more silly.

>>11931906
HE HAS BEEN DECEIVING US, LET'S BURN THAT MOTHAFUCKA, SHALL WE?

>>11931906
And it was a truautist to boot.

>>11931906

It's not really 'his' definition, it's how it actually is. All it takes is a bit of research, asking people who were involved and getting into the scene.

>>11932175
Then could you point us to sources?
Are we sure that 電波ソング, 電波曲 and 電波系 refer to the same thing?

>>11932188

Denpa songs can't exist without denpa culture.

Someone above made an allusion to Psychedelic music, this is an interesting choice to compare. Psychedelic Rock of the 60s cannot be recreated today, you can take all of the musical elements and make a song that sounds pitch-perfect like 60s psychedelia, but it will never be the same. The reason being is that the collective whole is greater than the sum of its parts. It's influenced by the drugs and culture of that time, it cannot be recreated today because we do not face the same challenges as the people who made that music did. Any attempt to copy it will never get the true 'psychedelia', it will always be tainted by preconceived notions of what a '60s psychedelic' track should sound like.

Without the culture, there is no music. It's not the same thing, merely a shell of its former self.

>>11932209
>sources

>>11932213
It's original research, obviously. What do you think this is wikipedia?

>>11932217

Thank you. I'm glad someone understands that the internet isn't the only source of information and that it's not the best place for subculture-related information anyway.

>>11932217
>>11932222
Then don't complain if we don't take anything you say seriously.

>>11932230
If you want to go to Akihabara and verify it, go ahead.

>>11932213
It seems plainly true to me. Look at any music subgenre, it exists and then gets copied in cargo-cult fashion into eternity. Not a judgment on any bands doing the copying, and their new thing might also be a thing, but it's not the same thing.

>>11932230

If you don't take anything I say seriously because it hasn't been written down on the internet by someone (who wouldn't have any more 'merits' than I anyway) then you're the one who shouldn't be taken seriously. The very nature of denpa culture makes it very difficult to 'document' let alone secure some kind of arbitrary 'reputable' source. I think you just need to face facts and understand that wikipedia/the internet/whatever is not going to provide you with enough information to know about denpa culture in depth. That blog post in the OP is pretty recent but it's actually one of the better pieces of reading you'll find, better than a lot of the Japanese accounts even.

It is sometimes hard to judge a song for me. What seems like a cute pop song would be extremely strange to most people.

>>11932242
I was talking specifically about denpa songs.
I've seen songs that are merely comical called denpa songs, like the construction workers one or Very Melon, which don't seem to have any connection to akiba. Same thing as the denpa genre in VNs.

>>11932245
I'm not looking for a "reputable" source on the Internet, I'm just looking for more sources. If one person provides original research you have to blindly trust him, which I don't like doing. But if three, four, or more people provide similar research then it gets more believable. I fail to see why such request seems so out of the question to you.

>>11932258
So if two or three more posters said that people in Akihabara said the same thing to them you would be fine with it? On an anonymous image board?

What equalizer settings do you guys use for your denpa? Do you mess with it at all?

>>11932288
I like flat response for everything.

>>11932288
Flat so I can appreciate my headphones.

>>11932175
>>11932209
Okay, I get it. Scenester elitism.

Now excuse me while I go listen to my favorite 90s/00s psychedelia.

>>11932258
>I'm not looking for a "reputable" source on the Internet, I'm just looking for more sources. If one person provides original research you have to blindly trust him, which I don't like doing. But if three, four, or more people provide similar research then it gets more believable. I fail to see why such request seems so out of the question to you.

So you're saying I should basically samefag? Because on an anonymous messageboard there's no difference.

I'd rather tell the truth and say that this is solely my research and findings than pretend it's some kind of accepted fact that 4 other completely fictional people know.

When it comes to subcultures, there is no such thing as a reputable source, you can only take it at face value. The best you can do is accept it and go and see it for yourself.

If you had no concept of what a hippie was, it'd be very hard to really get the gist of what exactly a 'hippie' is. Do you trust the social commentator who spends more time writing than being in the 'hippie' scene. Do you trust the hippie with no credibility but has been a part of that scene? There's no right answer, the only way to get the full picture is to see it for yourself.

Denpa by its very nature is extremely hard to pin down anyway, the people who are involved in denpa culture are frankly a bit weird and delusional, it's subversive by nature.

>>11932288
It depends on your headphones, not the music genre.

>>11932334

It's not elitism. Your 00s and 90s psychedelia will be representative of the 90s and the 00s, but they will be miles away from 60s psychedelia. By nature you cannot recreate that. In 2030 you won't be able to truly recreate 00s Psychedelia because socio-cultural parameters will be different.

>>11932288
I spent a silly amount of money on my setup for getting the flattest response possible, as plain as a loli. So of course I increase the bass to the max

Not really

>>11932374
When did I mention anonymous imageboards? I'm asking for external sources precisely because an anonymous imageboard isn't trustworthy. Please try to understand my post.

>I'd rather tell the truth and say that this is solely my research
Then tell us how you learned all of this, I'm honestly open to hear your story.

>the only way to get the full picture is to see it for yourself.
How? I don't live in Japan, and as you yourself said, the scene doesn't exist anymore. The only way for us, as foreigners, to learn about it today is to search for whatever is documented.

>Denpa by its very nature is extremely hard to pin down anyway
I agree, and I ask again: Are denpa songs so tied to akiba culture? There are examples of denpa songs seemingly not about akiba at all, and as seen in for example
here http://www.geocities.jp/rotter/essay/moesong.htm
or here http://www.paradisearmy.com/doujin/pasok_denpa_song.htm
it probably doesn't even spawns in akiba or in its culture in the first place.

>>11932410

Denpa culture might be centralized in Akihabara, but even in the beginning it was not limited to Akiba. The trouble is with the lists you're posting is that they are saying 'It sounds like denpa, so it must be denpa'. They are no different from anyone on 4chan saying that The Beatles are denpa because their lyrics didn't make sense on this one album. I don't know why you think a Japanese Geocities link legitimizes an opinion.

You're asking for sources, I am a source. I've been to Akihabara numerous times - I was there when denpa culture was still hugely underground and spoken to people who were part of that very scene at the time it happened. I've also spoken to numerous denpa artists (UNDER17, Mi-ko, Toromi, Otsuki etc.) and gotten their views.

If I write all this in Japanese and post it on 2ch or Geocities, does it then become more legitimate? No, it doesn't.

>The only way for us, as foreigners, to learn about it today is to search for whatever is documented

No, the best way for you as foreigners to learn about it today is to track down some people who were in that scene and ask them about it. There's no point looking for 'documented' sources because such little of it is documented in the first place.

>I'm asking for external sources precisely because an anonymous imageboard isn't trustworthy

Nowhere is more trustworthy than anywhere else. What are you expecting to find? Some kind of book written about denpa culture? As far as I'm aware such a thing does not exist and even if it does there's no guarantee that the person who wrote it knows anything more than someone like yourself.

>>11932434
Which songs and/or artists are good examples?

>>11932385
But they will all share the common characteristics that make psychedelia psychedelia. You can't recreate days of yore, but it doesn't mean you have to make a hard reset each time and then reinvent the wheel.

>>11932434
>'It sounds like denpa, so it must be denpa'

That's a perfectly sound reasoning.

>>11932607
>That's a perfectly sound reasoning.

But it isn't, because sound alone is not what makes up denpa music. It is culturally driven, just like Psychedelia is driven by drugs. You can make something which sounds like denpa, or psychedelia, but it won't be be either one. Just a mere copy.

>>11932434
>The trouble is with the lists you're posting is that they are saying 'It sounds like denpa, so it must be denpa'.
No, you can ignore that part. I'm referring to the historical part: both of those links imply or state that denpa songs and denpa-kei were born from comical/parody songs.

The リアル電波系 section of http://sound.jp/dempa_song/ is full of them, and in fact songs like ぱんださんようちえん, 猫鍋, 冬もマシンガン and お兄ちゃんどいて！そいつ殺せない！ are listed there. I want to know how this fits with akiba and moe.

>I don't know why you think a Japanese Geocities link legitimizes an opinion.
This is not my opinion, it's theirs. What you say conflicts with what I've read so I think it's perfectly normal for me to show it to you. My stance is completely neutral here, you sound kind of hostile.

>>11932687
How is making psychedelic music today a mere copy? Are you saying that psychedelic drugs suddenly disappeared or something? Psychedelia and the culture around it still exists today. It is true that you can't go back to the 60s and make psychedelic rock in that specific cultural context, but in today's context, where psychedelic drugs are available, used, and have a culture around them, you can still make psychedelic music with the characteristics that compose psychedelia.

>>11932710
>Psychedelia and the culture around it still exists today.

But not 60s Psychedelia and that is the point. 60s Psychedelia cannot be recreated. Denpa cannot be recreated, it has to happen naturally which now it is not because no denpa culture truly exists. It probably will re-emerge in the future, but not right now.

Read the blog post in the OP.

>>11932720
I've read it, but I don't know why you say it doesn't exist anymore. The author mentioned Kill me Baby as an example, even though it was made in 2012.

He also mentions:
>Denpa music today is a large part of general otaku culture, frequently making an appearance in both eroge and anime. Because it is distinct from the concept of denpa-kei, the subgenre of denpa music carries little of the stigma that is associated with denpa-kei.
>it is distinct from the concept of denpa-kei

Is he wrong then?

>>11932733

He is wrong on some, yes.

Almost every type of music is born from a subculture of sorts. When the subculture vanishes, the music is no longer. You can call it by the same name, but it is no longer the same. It could be argued that psychedelic rock no longer exists because the traits which defined it no longer exist in our society. In the case of psychedelic rock, this is actually true.

Equally in the case of denpa, the same can be said. Without the culture, there is no denpa music. Only music trying to be denpa.

It's a very easy concept, you just need to stop thinking that musical elements alone define a genre, because they do not.

>>11932749
>you just need to stop thinking that musical elements alone define a genre
I never said that. I'm also talking about subculture. I think the psychedelic culture hasn't died, it has just changed due to cultural change as you said, but it still exists. The only way for the psychedelic culture to die is to psychedelic drugs to disappear, which won't happen.

Likewise, I'd like to ask know why you think the denpa culture doesn't exist anymore, and exactly which traits that defined it don't exist in our society anymore. I don't live in Japan so I don't know how much Akiba has changed, but I'm sure you can mention it to me so I can get it, if you don't mind of course.

I wonder why I don't participate in these threads much anymore?

>>11932766

We're not talking about psychedelic culture, we're talking about psychedelic rock.

Denpa culture doesn't exist anymore. I can of course go into how Akihabara has changed over the past few years but I think that's another topic entirely, however related it is. I'm not really sure how else to explain how denpa culture doesn't exist anymore without having you seen it before it died.

Imagine if all the goths vanished from the face of the earth, people might still listen to gothic music but it doesn't mean gothic culture is still alive. It's the same for denpa culture - people go and see denpa musicians perform but it doesn't mean they are part of the culture, just spectators.

>>11932792
"Dempa culture" isn't about stabbing your neighbors and blame the high tension towers?

>>11932811

Not quite, no.

>>11932811
I'd guess that's only where the slang term came from, but doesn't have to do with the culture.

>>11932792
Is denpa culture so abstract that we can't define it nor document it? I wish there were more articles like the Altair and Vega one.

>>11931895
absolutely true.
you know, the definition of denpa is not fixed, each guy has own definition, and they start arguing.
to see each guy insists "this is trudenpa" and they start arguing is interesting for me.

>>11932832

yes. you can define parts of it much like you can document parts of it, but they make no sense without the context of the collective whole.

there are lots of people who claim to be experts on denpa songs, but they misunderstand the greater implications of the culture.

Unlike what >>11932836 says, I don't think it's as airy-fairy as 'everyone is right and nobody is wrong' but on the same token, I don't like the idea of outright saying 'This is true denpa' for a few reasons: Firstly, it only seeks to provide a platform for 'X is trudenpa' which will then of course be misinterpreted later on: ("Y sounds like X, so Y must be trudenpa style"). Secondly, especially when you talk about bands then the lines blur. MOSAIC.WAV were definitely through and through denpa at one point, but can the same be said now? Not really. I'm not saying they got worse, but I think their interests became divided. As of recent years they make 70% of music which is imitation denpa - 'denpa' that is expected of them and the other 30% of the music they make is harder to define. Is it really just an evolution of 'denpa' or something new entirely?

>>11932749
I have my doubts whether this subculture of yours has ever existed in the first place. Certainly, the type of music discussed in these threads was born from otaku culture and feeds on otaku culture, so it's certainly tied to a specific subculture. But "denpa" and "denpa-kei" are just terms used to refer to people with certain behavioral traits (space cases, tinfoil hatters and such) not a specific subculture. Those who believe in the Photon Belt and those who think the government is conspiring with aliens don't necessarily have any culture in common.

Though that's all irrelevant because those kinds of people don't have anything to do with denpa music in the first place. Or else people trying to summon UFOs by playing eroge songs on top of ley lines would be a relatively common occurrence.

>>11932851
>lots of people who claim to be experts on denpa songs
I've never seen anyone claiming that, I've always seen people saying "this is my view on it".

It's not fair to dismiss everything and just say "you had to be there man". If no one is able to explain what denpa, denpa culture, denpa-kei and denpa song are, then this discussion will never end and nothing will come out of it. Almost no body here was there, not because of the year, but because we're foreigners. On the other hand, 60s psychedelic rock is widely documented and easily explained by someone who experienced it.

>>11932890
>It's not fair to dismiss everything and just say "you had to be there man".

Well I think it is, actually. Because you really did have to be there. People like: >>11932875 will debate otherwise because they weren't there and don't like the feeling that they are missing out on something.

And to answer: >>11932875 yes actually the two things you are talking about are actually very tightly wound. And as for 'Playing eroge songs on top of leylines' it's funny you should mention that because amusingly enough the cult following of Sister Princess in denpa culture is exactly what you're saying never happened. I'm not sure about leylines but there were certainly some much weirder things going on. There's a very good reason as to why denpa culture and denpa songs are closely related.

First though, I'd like to explain a bit about the 'true denpa' point using MOSAIC.WAV as an example as everyone is familiar with them and it illustrates the point quite well.

>>11932875
>>11932941

And first of all, before I forget. A couple of things to remember: The first ever denpa song had nothing to do with otaku culture but was sung by an 'otaku culture' musician who has been a well known face in akihabara for years.

Secondly about the culture, just because it is elusive does not mean it didn't exist. Think of it like 4chan; 2004 4chan culture was very different from how it is now and anyone who was around at the time will tell you that, but if you were to look on paper it doesn't look like much has changed - memes still exist, the posting system is similar, everyone is anonymous, the board is anime-centric but if you lived through it, you'd know that the differences in cultures between then and now are monumental. If you want to understand denpa culture, you need to understand this nuance; if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck - it's not necessarily a duck. That's not all I have to say on these two, just preparing you with that.

>>11932941
>People like: >>11932875 will debate otherwise because they weren't there and don't like the feeling that they are missing out on something.
You're just a cunt. If you can't explain yourself and add anything constructive so we can all understand and enjoy denpa better together (like showing us the way to old and meaningful works or anything helpful) instead of ranting about how the culture is dead and there's no way we can understand it like you do, then please don't waste your time.

>>11932941

But you misunderstand, I was there and I still am there, denpa will truly never die as long as we keep it in our hearts.

>>11925789
http://www.mediafire.com/download/7w7ffbqtdvw7kr2/%E3%81%BF%E3%81%9A%E3%81%BB.mp3

>>11933737
You're god, thank you. Where did you get it?

>>11933907
In Real shop, used Doujin CD corner.

>>11933907
In Real shop, used Doujin CD corner.

>>11933258
Uh the guy is being reasonable, but you say he rants and call him a cunt? And the line you quoted is a perfect example of where people's irrational anger comes from. Separate your ego from denpa and relax. I would like to read more personally.

>>11932941
>And as for 'Playing eroge songs on top of leylines' it's funny you should mention that because amusingly enough the cult following of Sister Princess in denpa culture is exactly what you're saying never happened
There are loonies in every part of the population. What matters how it ties into denpa music. Even something like Panda-san Youchien feels far too intentional to be simply a case of nutjobs creating nutjob music as a natural result of being nutjobs. And early MOSAIC.WAV certainly isn't.

>>11932971
>The first ever denpa song had nothing to do with otaku culture but was sung by an 'otaku culture' musician who has been a well known face in akihabara for years.
Isn't that a rather controversial statement considering that what is considered the "first ever" denpa song itself is debated? Also, was there any reason you couldn't mention a name? I'm all for people doing their own research, but that research has to start somewhere.

>>11934160
>Isn't that a rather controversial statement considering that what is considered the "first ever" denpa song itself is debated?

Is it? I don't think it is. Of course I'm talking about Otsuki Kenji of KING SHOW fame, who wrote 妄想の男 which I think most people accept is the first denpa song.

>And early MOSAIC.WAV certainly isn't

You'd be wrong there, although early early MOSAIC.WAV is actually part of a splinter culture which emerged on the Japanese internet in the late 90s/early 2000s but often verges on denpa culture.

>>11933960
Because he isn't adding anything helpful or meaningful, and he acted like a cunt to someone who just expressed his doubts, dismissing the argument with some attempt at psychological analysis. If we go by what he says, we should just find ourselves another hobby because there's no way we'll able to enjoy denpa, nor find anything documented about it unless we build a time machine.

>>11934889
>>11933960
Also don't get me wrong, I would love to learn more about the culture and that's why I'm here, but we're just going around in circles here without learning anything new that hasn't been said countlessly in previous threads.

>>11933737
Her "anata no zenbu itadakimasu" at 3:24 sounds so cute.

You're awesome /jp/.

>>11935473
I know right. It's the only place where we can be as autistic as we want!

I don't usually lurk these threads so forgive me.

Is there always discussion concerning what defines denpa?

What is, in your opinion, the most denpa song ever made?

>>11936295
Chousai Kenbo Sengen by MOSAIC.WAV
In my opinion

>>11936295
あわだっちゃ☆パニクリバニラ

>>11936060
Yup.

>>11936060
It's the same two autistic kids arguing the same autistic opinions every thread

>>11936481
Can you define denpa for us then?

>>11936611
Why dont you read the links in the OP?

>>11936664

Because they are not correct definitions.

>>11937134
Then they shouldn't be linked in the OP every single thread.

>>11937134
Then define it for us please, instead of saying it's incorrect, so we can correct it.