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>>11768719
Old thread

Here's something useful regarding the challenge

http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Game_Tools_and_Modifications#Practice_Mode_Replay_Patch

>>11842069
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=32009

How do I get around Cirno's first spell phase in EoSD?

When will people learn to specify difficulty

>>11843156
Dodge it as if it were a shotgun. For obvious reasons, this is easier to do as Marisa. I think Marisa is easier to play than Reimu in EoSD because the bullets and lasers move fast but are not as densely packed as in later games.

How do I get better? I have been playing touhou for 6 1/2 years but I only managed to 1CC EoSD, PCB, IN, MoF, and TD. I die everytime to Rin, Shou, and Seija in the other games.

>>11843156

Even with Reimu as long as you don't dawdle you should be able to outpace the first two simply dodging all the way to a side, for the final blast i always just move all the way up to whatever side of the screen i'm closest to to evade it since their aimed at me. It's not hard at all really.

>>11843156
press x

Still waiting for a harder final boss.

>>11843573
It would have been better if she was actually trying and not just lecturing you.

>>11843156
if by "spell phase" you mean her first nonspell (unnamed pattern), there's a safe spot you can use by just sitting on her head.

>>11843480
What difficulty? If you've only worked on normal, try pushing yourself to harder difficulties. Just keep setting goals that are slightly beyond your skill level, and eventually you will achieve them with dedicated practice. Idle practice tends to not make you improve very much.

>>11843156
Evade the first two shots by running to left or right side of the screen. Then before the last shot you quickly move to the other side.

Is there a different translation for EoSD?

>>11843480
years/months/days doesn't matter, it's the hours that are important

try playing for 3000 hours, you should be gud by then

>>11844525
P.S. I have epilepsy.

>>11842069
are we allowed to use the hitbox patch or is that considered being a faggot

>>11844528
git gud fag

>>11844528

>>11844528
You should probably just quit before you kill yourself, retard.

>>11844532
Go ahead.

>>11842219
Can I use this with the vsync patch? I can't play without it, the input delay is way too much and it makes me mad. Sorry.

Has anybody made a vsync patch for ddc yet? Seems like everybody just kind of forgot about the game.

>>11844532
It's anonymous and no one can check what you do, so do what you like

Typically the hitbox patch is frowned upon since it does act as a bit of a crutch for lower level players, but at high level play it's too imprecise to remain useful. It's better to try and work to develop a good feel for where your hitbox is, even in games that normally display a hitbox. But, then again, you should be playing the games for fun, so do what you like.

>>11844945
Everyone plays EoSD with vsync, go ahead.

The advice I've heard is that vsync is sort of unnecessary in the post-MoF games, since input lag is no longer really an issue, although it is still useful for changing FPS and stuff, so I guess it's sort of low priority for DDC since you could also just like change the fps with cheat engine or something. afaik there is no vpatch for DDC yet

>>11844532
the EoSD hitbox patch is useless and you autists know it. The apparent size of the bullets and their actual hitbox tend to be nothing alike. Fucking Sakuya daggers.

>>11844958
I get massive input delay when I play any Touhou game in fullscreen. Before using an ATI card, everything worked fine, no delay at all. I don't like playing windowed, but it's the only way that DDC is playable for me.

It's okay though, I haven't played DDC in awhile now because of the lack of vsync. Instead, I'm working on optimizing my routes in DDP again. Rewriting my chains is frustrating, but at least it doesn't feel like work like when I first started.

Are there any good superplays aside from K.O.'s A-L one? I'd like to see how different the routes are between players. I had never watched a good play up until a few weeks ago, so I'm curious now. Does everybody use the same exact route?

>>11844279
I have only been playing in month long spurts every 6 months to a year or so. Everytime 1CC a game it means I am micro managing everything and not using real skill.

>>11843869
I will try that but I doubt it will help me with SA

>>11845061
what helps with SA is pressing X more often

>>11845066
I ain't losing shot power when I can avoid death.

>>11845077
But obviously you can't avoid death or else you'd have 1cc'd long ago.

I'm trying to install the VSync patch in th06. I renamed the .exe to 東方紅魔郷 already, but pic related happens.

AppLocale is supposed to work only in XP? I have Win7 and it already shows japanese characters. What am I doing wrong?

>>11845302
You still need set japanese locales. Applocker should work fine, but myself I use systemwide locales.

>Go to the Control Panel
>Click on Regional and Language Options
>Click the Administrative tab, go to "Language for non-Unicode Programs", and select "Japanese (Japan)" from the drop-down menu.
Click OK

>>11843573
I wait for another Windows based PoFV touhou.

>>11845319
Thanks anon, it worked perfectly.
I see the yen symbol everywhere though.

>>11845366
Yes, that's feature.

>>11845321
ZUN is retiring, this will never happen, sorry. My dad works at TSA

Is it better to play windowed or full screen?

>>11852644
I'd say fullscreen as long as you have good peripheral vision.

Also I did it. 100% capture.

>>11852644
Depends on how big your screen is, as well as your distance from it. A balance of being able to take in everything on the screen while being able to make out smaller details is preferred.

I played 14 finally.
I'm upset at the mirror spell cards.
That is all.

is there a way for me to make any of the touhou games in widescreen and not just fill a perfect square when i play on fullscreen?

>>11859269
That can be changed in your graphics card driver settings.

So apparently playing on lunatic really is a good way to learn the game. Even though I still die to the fairies in the beginning, I feel that I'm steadily improving. Things that looked impossible when I first started are starting to look more like things I can actually process.

>>11860293
I find I just constantly panic bomb and then die.

>>11860311
I usually have my first game over around the end of the first boss on lunatic, but I think it's a good way to learn. Bombing kind of negates the learning part so I try not to when I'm playing on lunatic. All the bombing won't help me beat the game anyway. Also, all the shiny bullets are rather hypnotizing in some sense.

By the way, where do people discuss 2hu other than /jp/? This place seems super slow compared to other boards.

>>11858923
>I'm upset at the mirror spell cards.
there's no reason to flip out

>>11860362
>All the bombing won't help me beat the game
Yes it will.

>>11860428
You run out of bombs eventually.

>>11860444
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=21714

>>11860362
>where do people discuss 2hu other than /jp/
MotK, IRC.

>>11860444
And then you die. And get new bombs. I don't see the problem

>>11860469
In most games you would game over before level one if you tried that.

yay!! I did it!

>>11860646
Didn't you realise that that card's easy as hell if you don't move vertically at all ?

>>11860710
I'm not very good!
I only 1cc Mountain of Faith on normal and IN on hard but just eirin...

>>11860577
not in SA as it seems.

>SA
>hard

quoting /v/

>>11860939
Subterranean Animism can be pretty hard if you actually try to play it and not just bomb through everything. Bombing on Mountain of Faith and beyond is the game genie of Touhou.

>>11860986
you think you can tell me how to play the game? SA is easy, period.

>>11860986
>the game's hard, you just have to ignore the mechanics that make the game easy
there are no easy games

>>11862336
Who are you quoting?

>>11860986
>if you actually try to play it

I bet you don't even score and you're convinced your shitty NB survivalscrubbing is the only proper way to play.

>>11862395
The point of the post is clearly about survival. There was no implication of it being "the only proper way to play" anywhere in his post, and he is right that bombing though everything removes the difficulty of the game.

I'm all for scoring over NB's, but seriously, stop desperately pushing your shitty scoring agenda left and right when there is no need. Keep it along with your elitism in that #kusoplay shithole, ironically where half the people don't score, or even play STGs.

Is the jump from normal to hard a big difference? I know there are new spellcards to learn, but just in terms of general difficulty? I've 1cc'd EoSD, PCB, and IN and would like to try to get past playing on normal.

>>11862336
Please don't abuse the spoiler function

>>11862937
depends on the game. In IN I found hard almost easier than normal overall, but in EoSD I thought it was a big difficulty jump

>>11860577
You totally can't cheese through other Touhou games than SA or MoF without capturing anything, nope.

I literally never try to do high scoring in Touhou (I only POC frequently because it feels satisfying). I dunno if this is a good score or not, but whatever. I woulda been pulling my hairs out if I tried this any longer.

>>11862937
Easy to Normal is a big jump.
Normal to Hard isn't that bad.
Hard to Lunatic is very different.

>>11862454

Right, I bet your scores are fantastic if you think using bombs is cheating.

>>11866375
My scores are as fantastic as your comprehension is abysmal.

I can never get past stage 3 on EoSD. Meiling always beats me at the last second. I used to like her and her theme, but now listening to it only brings me pain knowing that I will never get past her and finally meet Patchouli even once.

Fuck you Meiling.

Fuck.

You.

>>11866504
This is so very true. Meiling is truly the TLB of Touhou.

>>11866504

Wow. You must really suck. Even I can make Remi and I'm super terrible at shumps.

>>11866504
Even on Normal? You know how small your hitbox is, right? Most of her stuff is fairly simple to weave through.

>>11866504
Man...seriously? Jeez..

This thread is fucking sad.

>easy
>normal
>bombs
>this is hard.

Good on those who try to lunatic + score and no bomb/death clear, fuck everyone else.

>>11866828
epic

>>11866828
Good on those who can actually play through ura loops without even blinking, fuck everyone else.

FUCK EVERYONE

>>11866896
If you blink in that game you'll die anyway.

why can't we take it easy like every other thread on /jp/

>>11866828
post you're scores tuff guy

>>11866828
>>>#kusoplay

>>11866828
Touhou is literally the bottom of the barrel when it comes to shmups. Are you pride?

>>11867516
>touhou
>not psikyo
try again

>>11867516
And somehow people still manage to screw up.

Is the VSync patch supposed to be helpful? I installed it but I can't really notice any significant difference. The only useful feature seems to be the ability to resize windows.

>>11867756
It's only useful if your system is introducing far too much frame buffer, causing some of the games to have a lot of latency.

EoSD runs at over 600 fps for me. All games after run normally. What gives?

>>11869447
EoSD running at 600 fps is normal. The other games are just much too slow. Enjoy the ride.

>>11869447
V-sync or run in window.

I think I just dodged a heart attack by a hair's breadth.

>>11867756
you can also change the fps, if you want to do 90fps runs or something

>>11879408
Does running it at 90 fps also make the game go faster, or am I just being a dumbfuck?

>>11879779
Yeah, that's the idea behind 90fps, it speeds up the game so that it trains your reaction time and microtapping skills or whatever, and it's impressive to people too.

>>11866900
please fuck me

>>11886280
If you had to bump this abomination of a thread, you could have at least done it with a screencap.

I tried my best. Never cleared any touhou game, my best is stage 5 on EoSD on normal.
I also totally suicided for a better score. Sure. Twice.

>>11886367
I die all the time when playing touhou.
For that high score of course, why else?

Okay, /jp/, you've gotta help me.

I've been playing Touhou on and off for about 7 years, playing nothing but PCB and IN,
and I feel like something is holding me back. I always tried to avoid watching replays
of other players, because I thought I'd rather try to figure everything out by myself,
but I've come to a point, where I really want to get some advice.

As I've said I avoided these threads and other player's replays so far, so I would ask
you to excuse my lack of knowledge regarding terminology and such.
(somebody mentioned microtapping, which is a very fitting description.
I've always called it micro, along with macro, because of StarCraft ...)

For reference, I can easily do a 1CC NB on both games on normal, though I usually loose a few lives
on the last stage.
I haven't attempted Extra in IN in a long time, but I can get through Extra on PCB just fine,
I play NB, but my score isn't that great (fuck those last two spellcards).
I can't beat Phantasm yet, but I guess I could 1CC hard if I really wanted, although I prefer to do a good
run rather than playing for pure survival so I rarely attempt hard and never managed to get a 1CC.

So now on to my question:
Usually, when I die, it's not because my "awareness" was off or because I was overwhelmed with
bulletcount, I die mostly because I can't control my character precisely enough. (I'm playing Sakuya in PCB)
A typical death looks like this:
Pretty dense pattern incoming, I see a safespot a few pixels to the left, I fly left but my character
doesn't really come to a halt and I overshoot the point where I wanted to stop by a few pixels and then die.

(CONT)

>>11888490

(continued)

How can I not do that anymore ?
How do you guys (gud players only, plz - i.e., players who can 1CC hard or lunatic ...)
play ? Do you guys play with keyboard ? Do you use a mechanical keyboard ? Do you use the
arrowkeys with your left hand ? Or do you have some weird custom configuration ?
Does anyone use controller / stick ? Do I just need to get better at microtapping / precision ?


Feedback would be much appreciated, I wanna get those hard 1CCs soon and try MoF for a change.

>>11888493
oh shit, I obviously meant right hand on arrow keys. I've been thinking about mapping directional input to E, F, J, I, but never tried it so far.

I hadn't played this little game in a good long time, played it once just for fun today and got a new high score. Neat.

>>11888490
Are you serious? 7 years?
Use a mechanical keyboard that has anti-ghosting so you can hold down more keys at once. A shitty keyboard can really fuck you up. If you re-size the game window, at least keep the aspect ratio. Using a vsync patch is also good, as it will reduce the input delay. As long as you can reach all keys comfortably, I'm sure you can assign them however you want. And learn from replays by watching the best.

Stop confusing bullets for point items dumbass...

>>11888732
Thanks for your help.

>>Are you serious? 7 years?
As I said, I've been playing on and off. I'd guess my total playtime is probably still around 1100 hours ? I dunno.
(Not making excuses, I suck.)

>>Use a mechanical keyboard that has anti-ghosting so you can hold down more keys at once.
Yeah, NKRO is important, but even my old 15$ rubber dome got that right. I actually bought a Corsair K70 (Red Switches), although I'm still not used to it.
The travel times still feel to long ...

>>If you re-size the game window, at least keep the aspect ratio.
I hadn't thought of that, I'm indeed playing on a wide-screen monitor right now. I'll play a few games in window-mode to see if it makes a difference.

>>Using a vsync patch is also good, as it will reduce the input delay.
I actually bought the game years ago from akibaoo, but I always played with my old pirated copy (with the awful translation patch). How do I know whether my version is patched ?

>>As long as you can reach all keys comfortably, I'm sure you can assign them however you want.
Out of curiosity, are you playing with the standard configuration (Shift + X + Y + Arrows) on a keyboard ?

>>And learn from replays by watching the best.
You know, I think I'll do that from now on. Explaining exactly what my problems are takes forever, and I'm starting to think if I just watched some replays it might answer at least some of my questions ...

PS: My Highscore on PCB Normal with Sakuya A is around 840M. Is that acceptable or do I need to commit Sudoku ?

Just a little tip from someone infinitely your greater (no ego)

- Don't use SakuyaA if you can't handle her. Her movement speed is too fast while focused i find. Playing with the other two I can move with considerably greater accuracy

>>11888732
Holy hell, I just windowed the game and the aspect ratio is totally different. I've been playing on a fucking square those past 2 years ...

>>11888802
Is Sakuya B slower when focused than Sakuya A ? I, too, think Sakuya A is way too fast, but I wanted to stick with this character ...
Oh well, guess I'll just have a look at the pro-replays. I'm curious to see how the pros handle her.

On a different note, care to post how you play ?
(Shift ZX Arrows on mechanical keyboard, I assume ?)

And how many hours did you put into the games ?

Thanks for your comment.

Do you want to be a badass or not? Do you want to tear up these Lunatics and be a man who decides his own destiny? Then ditch that maid and only look back if you're ready to get into some truly ebin scorehunting.

>>11888796

>PS: My Highscore on PCB Normal with Sakuya A is around 840M. Is that acceptable or do I need to commit Sudoku ?

That's what you'd expect considering you have trouble clearing the higher modes. It's better than a bottom hugging scrub-fest run but that score doesn't really even score.

>>11888828
Ok, lol, but I guess you're right. Guess I need to git gud then ...

>>11888818
>you want to be a badass or not? Do you want to tear up these Lunatics and be a man who decides his own destiny?
I want that ! If you have some more general tips, I'd appreciate it. But I won't play Reimu. Reimu is cheap ._.
Marisa it is, I guess.

I actually tried a run just now. It's frustrating, because I need to pretty much find new routes for every stage.

>>11888882
Well, Using Reimu was the second tip I would give you but in PCB, using MarisaA is actually quite effective.

However, for later games like MoF and especially SA you'll definitely want to use Reimu. If you think she's cheap just consider her like training wheels until you become more capable and get better runs. I tell you, getting good runs is hard with all shots.

So you might as well go with the one that lets you do the best job, but that's of course up to you.

I guess for general reference, the shots i prefer to use for the games are:

EoSD+PCB: ReimuB or MarisaA
IN: Border Team or Ghost Team
MoF: ReimuB.
SA: ReimuA
UFO: ReimuA, SanaeB (or whoever really)
TD: Reimu
DDC, ReimuA, ReimuB, SakuyaB

>>11888796
>>11888803
I use the standard keys.

And regarding the aspect ratio, the thing is, when you play on a wide screen monitor, the game will stretch sideways, a lot. It's going to look like you move faster sideways and slower when you go up and down. The playing area is supposed to be a rectangle, not a square. I'm sure you can get used to it, but it might throw you off once you buy a new monitor with a different resolution. It might be best to play in a window.

I play using the 1280x960 window myself.

It took me around 100 hours to beat UFO on lunatic.

>>11888925
If you put it like that, I guess I could use Reimu A.
I just had a go with the vsync patch tho, and holy crap, it's like a completely different game now.
Sakuya feels a lot more responsive, so maybe I won't have to switch characters.

>>11888949
Luckily I can set the aspect ratio on my monitor.
(Because Touhou itself doesn't seem to have that option ...)
The way you've described it is exactly how I've been playing it for those past 2 years ... flying horizontally was so fast you'd think you are playing Dodonpachi. I have no clue why I didn't change the aspect ratio back sooner.

And that is an insane time on UFO. I take it you had a lot of experience with other Shmups beforehand ? If not, that would be quite discouraging ...

>>11889031
> I take it you had a lot of experience with other Shmups beforehand?
Not really. But most of that time was spent grinding in practice mode, memorizing every stage, every pattern. Once you know everything and where to bomb and all that, it's not that hard. I'm sure you can do it too.

>>11888493
I play with a cheap controller, and I've L1CC'd IN and L1CC'd PCB up until resurrection butterfly, so it's not really the controller that makes a difference.
I do use a vsynch patch though, but I don't notice a big difference.
Sayuka is fine for hard mode (although Sakuya B is probably easier), but for lunatic, her lack of precision in movement is a problem. Since that's where you seem to die the most, just try Reimu, since her movement is so slow that you'll pretty much never overshoot safespots.
Also replays are mainly useful if there's a spell card that you can't beat consistently, because you haven't figured out a method yet. You'll probably not have any problem with that if you've been playing for seven year, though.

Why are you guys so bad? :V

>>11890094
is hard to concentrate when you are mom is sucking us off

Is it possible to talk about the Touhou danmakufu fangames like The Last Comer and Mystical Power Plant?

>>11843573
She's actually the only final boss I have ever beaten.

>>11890174
Aren't you doing it right now?

so wheres the english patch for 14

>>11894370
Search for the "community patch", it's a tool thing that'll patch your games.

I haven't played in almost two weeks now and I'm extremely rusty with chaining 1-2. On the other hand, my mind is clear of the frustration of playing for 6 hours a day and not improving. I played three runs and ended up with three bad scores and some very stupid deaths at the very end, denying me of ever seeing the loop. NM2B up until 1-6, the new stage that always murders me, but I need more practice with it.

I bet I could play better, but I'm a retard and I have no free time during the day. On the bright side, I chained up to the power-up after the 1-2 midboss. That's okay, I think? Probably not, but it's good enough for now. I can slowly feel my love for the genre returning, so I'm going to spend my entire Valentines day playing DDP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM3vqklaPkA
How would someone go about doing this ? Freezing the timer and giving you infinite lives so you can face a card for as long as you want to, that is. It seems like it could be fun for the games that don't have a spell practice mode.

Pls don't play C-L it's shit...

Pls don't play C-L it's shit...

It's a bit off topic but I feel like this question doesn't deserve a thread :

How do I into Touhou ? I've 1CC EoSD and Perfect Cherry in hard and I want to know the universe and the characters better. Which are the manga/novel that one must read when it comes to touhou ?

>>11895095
Silent Sinner in Blue. Then if you want to know more about the characters, stuff like Perfect Memento in Strict Sense can be good.
Just go download all of them and read them in chronological order. That also works.

>>11895122
Don't listen to this faggot. SSiB is awful in almost every way.

>>11895124
Really ? How come ? Are you one of those people who hates it because the lunarians are "overpowered" or some stupid shit like that ?

>>11895127
Because it's poorly drawn boring stupid unfunny shit. Something that would never get published if its author wasn't ZUN and would never got more than 10 copies sold on Comiket if released independently.

>>11895095
Find your favourite character.
Seriously.
Someone you would WANT to learn more about.
After that you will learn about her, her close friends, all evern remotely related 2hus and in the end about whole Gensokyo in no time.

>>11895142
>poorly drawn
subjective
>unfunny
also subjective

I think what you're trying to say is that you didn't like it

>>11895148
Oh, so you agree with stupid and boring?
>poorly drawn - subjective
I would say "opinion supported by majority". You can't deny that art is way below average. No backgrounds, poor details, missing shadows, tries to be cute, but fails miserably. enough and doesn't have any uniqueness in it.
>unfunny - subjective
Post a single picture that made you at least smile.

>>11895164
Not him, but this page makes me smile because it's so shitty. Just look at Remilia. What the fuck happened?

>>11895167
>Reimu's reaction

>>11862937
If you can 1cc SA and UFO on normal you can 1cc the other games on hard.

>>11895167
Also not him, but isn't using simplified faces a common practice in manga? It's hardly the first time someone's used an "DX" face.

>>11895167
She was flattened into a paper cutout. Such is the power of the moon.

>>11895164
Couldn't all of that be said about touhou in general though ? The art is shit and the dialogue is stupid, yet none of us would even be here if it didn't exist.
In a sense, SSiB represents touhou perfectly.

>>11895194
It's Touhou so it must be shit is probably the worst excuse for anything Touhou related you could make. Things don't have to be shit.

>>11895200
No, he was saying that it's a shitty as the games, yet people like the games.

>>11895028

scrubby score

>>11895204
You don't play the Touhou games for the character portraits and the deep dialogue though. The danmaku and backgrounds actually look better than one in the manga. The games also have gameplay and music to balance stuff out. That manga has nothing like that.

>>11895028
Good job on the 2-ALL!

>>11895218
But that kind of dialogue just IS touhou. I don't get what you were expecting; some kind of "epic adventure", or deep philosophical monologues all the time ? If so, no wonder you were disappointed, because you aren't going to get that from any official touhou works.

>>11895207
>>11895220
Yeah nothing special just generic 2-ALL 100mil came from 1st loop. 2nd loop with C-L is a disaster would not recommend

>>11895231
I want stuff that isn't shit. None of the Touhou manga have deep dialouge, in fact most don't even have plot, but at least the newer ones don't look like ass too. FS looks better than most Touhou doujinshi. You can actually enjoy looking at the art in that manga. Again, it does not need to be shitty just because it says Touhou. I also never said the text in the game is all shit, just that people don't have that as the main reason to play the game. The other guy said it's all stupid. It's just not memeroble at all for the most part. Hell if i remember what Marisa said when she meets the Prismrivers.

>>11895249
ur a scrub and i bet u dont even score

>>11895250
Stop that shit.

>>11895207
My best was 289mil would be higher if stage 2-3 didnt constantly make me loose my maximum bonus.

>>11895249
But what's so wrong with the plot in SSiB ? I've heard some say that it's "confusing", but that's a pretty shitty argument since it's really not that hard to follow. It also shows us the characters being in-character, which is nice. So what's so shit about it ?

>>11895259
Nothing happens.

If he hates both the artist and the story he's never going to like it and you should just leave it alone.

>>11895259
Mary Sue moon bitches.

>>11895270
Yeah fuq em we need slavic 2hus.

>>11895269
I guess you could say that, yeah.
Building a rocket, going to the moon, fighting moon bitches and stealing millennia-old sake is a hell of a lot more than what happens in most slice-of-life manga, though.

>>11895259
>I've heard some say that it's "confusing"
Where did you even hear that? Seriously, what shithole do you visit where people find SSiB confusing?
And you also forgot "everyone hates SSiB because moonbithces defeated their fav 2hu!". This shit get repeats every single thread, but I haven't seen a single person who thinks that way.
>>11895274
>touhou
>slice-of-life
Learn what that word means. It's not "nothing happens, cute girls doing cute things". Touhou manga can't be slice-of-life by definition.

Also, it's not about what happened, but how it happened. For example:
>stealing millennia-old sake
Do you mean one panel of "Yo, Yukari, check this out, I stole some shit from bitches"? Do you really think that was an interesting event?

>>11895318
>what shithole do you visit where people find SSiB confusing?
Guess. hint : we're posting in it right now
Also you didn't read that post properly. I never said touhou was a slice-of-life manga.
Also you're proving how SSiB can be interesting while you're trying to bash it; it isn't the "hey look sake" in itself, but the way that it happened that's interesting.

>>11895318
>Do you mean one panel of "Yo, Yukari, check this out, I stole some shit from bitches"? Do you really think that was an interesting event?
I guess people who waited two years to find out that everything culminates in this amazing anti-climax would be pretty disappointed, even if you include the epilogue.

Gensokyo is a world where nothing happens, though, it's just how things are.

>>11895318
Slice-of-life can still have supernatural plot elements as long as the plot focuses on realistic day-to-day events like Reimu cleaning her shrine or Remilia having a party.

>>11895334
There you are again trying to justify it being shit by saying "it's touhou". Cut that out.

>>11895259
I just posted that Remilia picture to support that art claim from the other guy but i guess i can list some of my problems with the manga. No real order though. Lot's of wasted potential is the main problem in that manga. Due to Aki Eda's art, everything that should look impressive, from danmaku to scenery, does not. For a quick example for danmaku, look at Final Spark in the games and then read the manga pages. The whole thing looks like shit. Only the early fairy manga comes close to that. The manga only has art and writing so half of it is ruined from the start. Yukari's big plan, which is supposed to be the big reveal that makes Yukari look smarter than everyone in the end involved her completely surrendering to the moon and hoping they just won't do anything even though this isn't the first time she starts shit there. This is supposed to be smart. It only works because the plot just says it does and the lunarians act like the biggest idiots. Are they not supposed to be smart too? The actual fights don't feel like they belong into Touhou at all. Even the fighters do a better job. The fact that Yorihime's main power is having new powers is not something you'd like to see in fights. That makes resolving them cheap, just get some power that works. It feels like you are reading bad shonen manga. How Yuyuko, who can invoke death, manages dead souls and is a ghost, is supposed to be not connected to life and death and therefore pure, makes no sense. The early parts are poorly paced and it takes forever for the actual stuff to happen. It tries to build up tension for nothing. You never fear that the characters won't make it. The ending makes everything pointless. You just wasted your time. Characters didn't learn anything, it has no consequences for any of them and it could only be more generic if they started laughing and the view moved skywards. The people on the moon don't even really care.

I could go on but it's getting too long.

>>11895340
I don't think it's shit, though. I rather liked it. You think it's shit because you didn't get a nice big satisfying climax like you wanted. That's fine with me. You can continue to think it's shit as much as you like.

>>11895351
> involved her completely surrendering to the moon and hoping they just won't do anything
Not ignoring everything else you said or anything, but you do know that Yukari planned to use herself as a decoy to let Yuyuko deal with stuff all along, right ?

>>11895318
Bougetsushou is not SSiB alone. It's an interesting and perfectly satisfying ending once you read CiLR.

Maybe that's the problem. People not reading other parts of the whole.

>>11895335
Fantasy is not realistic by definition. You need to find another word for what you try to describe. Leave "realism" and "slice-of-life" alone.

>>11895360
A highly realistic story about the French Revolution is not slice of life, while a story about a vampire going shopping for carrots is. The characters isn't what makes it slice of life or not, it's the plot.

>>11895359
Yes, and i said it only works because the plot says it does. What kind if shitty plan involves your complete surrender and capture? There is not even some escape at the last moment. It's just hoping they'll release her. Yuyuko wasn't even planned to release her if they capture her. I just looked through the pages again in case i missed something and remembered it wrong. She just knows they let her go. it doesn't even say they'll do that. She's just there again.

>>11895359
His point is that she was gambling on the moon not doing anything to her while she was being a decoy.

>>11895361
Realism is still a crucial part of slice-of-life's definition. A story about a vampire shopping for carrots is not realistic due to containing a vampire.

>>11895370
According to my dictionary slice of life is:
of, relating to, or marked by the accurate transcription (as into drama) of a segment of actual life experience

I feel kinda bad about helping to derail the one thread about the shooting games. Was there a shot-type comparison for the newest game yet?

>>11895359
So Yukari went through humiliation to scary/threaten Eirin? That's stupid.

Imagine a boy who is bullied in school. One day he brings a giant dragon dildo and shows it in his ass right in front of bullies. "Look, how painful it is, but I don't give a fuck, it's just as planned. That will leave a deep scar in their mind, something they will never be able to forget".

I find Yukari's plan extremely retarded.

>>11895383
Please go to STG thread for such discussions. This is "SSiB is shit" thread.

>>11895368
She made them release her by demonstrating she knows a bit too much and can't be trusted not to say it aloud.

>>11895378
Yes, and? You don't usually experience vampires in your life.

>>11895393
That the "shopping for carrots" segment is an accurate transcription of something from your life. Which means it's a slice of life segment inserted into a drama.

>>11895393
>She made them release her by demonstrating she knows a bit too much and can't be trusted not to say it aloud.

That's an even bigger reason to seal her away or maybe even execute her right there. Why would you let that person go? Did you mean that right?

>>11895378
The term "slice of life" was coined at a time when all fiction was realistic. If it contained fantastic elements, it was an epic, or a romance, or an adventure, or something.

The term has been co-opted to describe works that contain fantastic elements but are otherwise thematically similar to slice of life works.

>>11895401
I'm just saying what happened.

Sealing a youkai is presumably not an easy task (killing, judging from the fact that sealing is a thing, might be outright impossible), and Watatsukis are more worried about internal opposition on the moon than some dirty earthling peasant whose plot they've already thwarted (or so they thought).

>>11895412
This is so retarded. I can not get over this tonight. She apparently knows something so dreadfull it destroys the moon if she says it and they let her go. No strings attached. She can just go. That's like capturing the leader of some rebellion and then just setting him free again 10 minutes later. Surely he will suddenly stop doing what he did before. There is no image for this. If someone says lunarians are mary sues, quote those actions. Clearly they are retarded. In fact, they are dumbest characters. No other character has or will be this stupid again.

>>11895405
I kinda get what you're saying, but I think it would be more accurate to say that the term slice-of-life was coined when people first realized it's possible to create fiction without fantastic (or at least extraordinary) elements.

>>11895422
Once again, Lunarians are superior. (hilariousleomodestodrawing.apng) From their perspective, it's like catching a wild animal that wandered into the city and releasing it back into its natural habitat.

I don't even remember anything like that. What did Yukari know that dreadful for Lunarians?

>>11895427
Yeah, but if that wild animal has rabies you will kill it. Even the lowest forms of life can posse danger.

>>11895427
I don't even know what to say. I'd say something about elves but urgh. Someone post that Spongebob image reply with him stuck in the window. I really hope this is just made up because i have trouble remembering anything like that, just some talk about gods. I hope it's just fanwanking.

>>11895423
People have always created fiction without fantastic elements. Antigone, Romance of the Three Kingdoms, and King Lear are all old and yet (somewhat) realistic. Slice of life was invented when people realized it was possible to create fiction without plot. Or at least without the traditional setup => rising action => climax => denouement plot.

>>11895444
You forgot falling action.

>>11843867
Lunatic? Seriously, the only reason any player ever wins in the Phantasmagoria games is because there's an RNG roll to determine whether the CPU will decide not to dodge a bullet. If you do a CPU vs. CPU match, just watch the way they move, it even looks as though they're moving freely through the projectiles as though they had no hitboxes. The way they navigate the danmaku shows that if there were no failsafe to make sure the CPU takes some hits on purpose, the player could never win against it.

Really, Yumemi is the hardest final boss in Touhou, and the only human final boss. Human master race.

If Yumemi showed up in Windows canon, she'd probably show up as the conqueror of the Moon.

>>11895488
You can win if you play as Aya, Medicine or Eiki though since the A.I. can't handle their attacks.

>>11895494
I've done Lunatic CPU vs. CPU of Shikieiki vs herself and it lasted for nearly 10 minutes without either side taking a hit. The only reason it ended was because I manually ended it.

>>11895506
Her laser is usually one of the few things that can actually get lunatic a.i.

>>11895506
Try Komachi CPU lunatic vs, I went and played Dragons Dogma for 40 minutes before the match finally ended

>>11895592
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXy-KtTghOY

>>11895488
The Phantasmagoria games have set-in timers for around when the boss is supposed to die, so that the game doesn't last forever without the player generating an undodgeable pattern. Apart from Shikieiki's first round.

Mystia mirror matches can go for 10+ hours.

how does sky arena?

>>11895604
>>11895798
I wonder how they designed the AI behavior.

>>11896243
1. Look one frame ahead
2. What of my 17 movement options will make me not die
3. If one, do it.
4. If none, bomb.
5. If several, pick one that puts me closer to shooting some fairies or something.

Also randomly charge attacks.

What's the best way to dodge the stuff that comes right before Shou?

>>11896419
Moving away from bullets

What's the best combo for playing SA?

>>11896586
Reimu + gap hag

>>11896586
crowslut

I want more lewd stg

>>11896792
The general notion is that the games can be cleared by anybody in normal dif as long as they have 0 bombs when they die and these bombs have been used properly to dodge hits.
I'd say Marisa Nitori is the safest bet if you want the highest % to clear the game, pretty much the same rule that makes Reimu+Yukari so broken in IN.

>>11896444
I wish Riz was here. He would upload a replay showing how it's done and leave a nice reply.

>>11896858
It's your fault for bullying him too often.

>>11895028
chain more :3 otherwise,die less. you should at least have two lives or more by the very end of the game, no lives is kind of pathetic for a 2-all :(

anyway, good luck! you'll probably see 500m within a week if you keep it up.

I never beat a touhou game before because I always get angry and alt f4 whenever I die even if I'm on stage 5 on lunatic and it's my first death

>>11897397
well, dying is pretty retarded unless you're playing for score. really no reason to reset so late into a run though, that's something a certain ddp autist would do, and you're not as autistic as him, so don't fucking restart.

>>11897430
I can't, it's like death bombing in IN when you can immediately react and bomb, whenever I hear the death sound my reaction kicks in and I just press alt F4, I still haven't beaten any of it yet even on hard and normal because I keep quitting

>>11897357
>:3
>:(
Stop that.

Why does Aya look frustrated here when I cleared the stage? Is it because the picture score is low?

Because she looks surprised or content on scenes 5 and 6.

>>11897357
That run was actually terrible suffered a death on 1-6 boss lost my maximum bonus best run was 289mil. Going for a 500mil score with C-L, id rather just reorganise everything and play A-L so I don't have to deal with the annoying stuff that comes in 2-5 mid section hell even late 2-4. When it comes to the hibachi I actually did good as I reached him with no lives and fucked him up I consider 2-6 boss to be more difficult really.

>>11897357
That run was actually terrible suffered a death on 1-6 boss lost my maximum bonus best run was 289mil. Going for a 500mil score with C-L, id rather just reorganise everything and play A-L so I don't have to deal with the annoying stuff that comes in 2-5 mid section hell even late 2-4. When it comes to hibachi I actually did good as I reached him with no lives and fucked him up I consider 2-6 boss to be more difficult really.

>>11897860
Its just a reaction to the dialogue, it adds to the tone of voice that doesn't exist when you read it.

>>11897915
Man, I wish I could get good enough to be able to even consider a 2-ALL trivial. There are so many people playing ddp now and they're all insanely good. 300M~400M scores and 2-ALLs are nothing, looping the games on their first few tries.

How are you guys doing it? It makes me feel like I should stop playing, but since so many people are able to do it now, it feels like there's also some trick behind getting good extremely fast.

Why is TD so fucking easy?

>>11898248
It's because you bomb too much.

>>11898257
No I don't, I got to Miko's last spell on my first play and I barely used any bombs at all. The game is just too easy.

>>11898185
Bleh just play the game I myself am not sure to continue with DDP which dropping would be a shame or to try to make some magic in Progear. This is what I hate with this genre so many games to play investing 1 year like I did with Great Mahou Daisakusen can be quite painful.

>>11897357
Fuck off Zengeku.

>>11897357
fuck off zengeku you fucking paedo child molesting scum kill yourself

I wanted to make a screenshot from my replay, but got a desync problem. Is that common in DDC?

Anyone have a link to download Ten Desires and TH14?

>>11898585
Here's the replay by the way
http://threplays.appspot.com/replay_files/th14_ud000f.rpy

>>11898607
google moriyashrine

>>11898607
Or if you're feeling especially lazy

http://moriyashrine.weebly.com/official-touhou-games.html

What should I invest time in Dragon Blaze,Strikers 1945 II,Ketsui,DoJ or Progear????

Also am I the only one who thinks Psikyo games from 1997 and upwards actually has alright music?

>>11899788
Play Ketsui for 30 minutes a day until you Ura-ALL while investing all other time in either Progear or Dragon Blaze.

>>11898585
Please respond

>>11898585
Yes. Marisa's lasers sometimes shoot in the wrong direction, due to a power glitch or something. If it happens during a run, but not in the replay, then a desync will likely occur.

Are there any doujin games aside from the 2hu fighters that have a good mix of melee and shooting?

I played through this shit game and the lewdness was not even good.

Lucky. Bothced up the cancel on the last spell, losing a couple of millions.

WR is at around 7700 time at this point, for reference.

hey /jp/. i'm that guy from earlier in the thread.
so i did a few runs this week and wouldn't you know it, i got my hard 1CC
and phantasm clear (i was bombing like a bitch on those last two phantasm spellcards, tho)
and improved pretty much all my highscores.
i'd like to thank everyone who replied for your advice and encouragement.
i'd go into greater detail, but i guess nobody really gives a fuck, so i'll cut to the point:

i'm still not completely happy with my setup.
that vsync patch did wonders, and i can't believe i've been playing without it all this time,
so if there are other patches like that, i'd be really happy if you pointed them out.

other than that, i have 3 questions:

1) there's a glitch in PCB that i get sometimes, where your character starts flying
in one direction and never stops. it's not that often, but i'd hate to see a highscore run ruined
because of that. is there a fix for that ?

2) is there some easy way to show the auto-collection border ? that might be helpful at times.
i guess i could just tape some yarn to my monitor or something, but i guess there are probably better ways ?

3) is there some easy way to change the standard controls for the keyboard ?
i already tried sharpkeys, and for whatever reason it doesn't work.
i found a thread on some forum saying that autohotkey works, but if there's some community patch
to change it directly from within the game, i'd rather go with that.

i'll try MoF one of these days. fucking hyped right now.

>>11904643
1) There isn't a solution that I know of, other than reacting to it, pausing, and pressing the offending direction on the numpad to make it go away.

2) Don't cheat.

3) I don't remap keys, so I'm not sure of what software works best, but there aren't any patches that I know of.

>>11904675
Thanks for replying.

1) I tried fiddling around with the keys, but I didn't think of the numpad. That's good to know, I'll try that next time it happens. Are there other games in the series that have that glitch, or is it only PCB ?

2) Eh, I wouldn't use a patch to show hitboxes or the like, but as I said, I could literally tape some yarn to my screen. I wouldn't consider something that primitive cheating.

>>11904643
Congratulations on your clear.

You can just check the touhou wiki for patches.

Patching the game so it shows things which are supposed to be invisible is probably cheating. I'm not sure if there is a patch for showing the auto-collect area, but I bet there are other questionable patches you could use. As long you only use them for practicing, it doesn't matter much. Not in my opinion anyway.

You could look into is the "boss rush" patches. They remove everything from the levels except for the bosses. This is very helpful for grinding spell cards in games that don't have spell practice.

>>11904722
>"boss rush" patch
Yeah, that sounds convenient for practice, especially on long stages like 4th PCB. I'll look into it. So far I have to say, though, I find getting a good score on the actual stages (is there a name for the stage part of a stage ?) a lot harder than getting a good score on the bosses, at least on PCB hard. The difficulty is kinda weird.

>auto-collect area
I'd go so far as to use it in an actual run. I mean, I could just take a marker and scribble over my screen. That's not really giving me an unfair advantage IMO. You know, I was thinking of a tool that let's you doodle onto your desktop or something. Just draw a crude line, done. I have no idea if such a tool exists, tho.

>>11902833
Astebreed.

>>11904785
Do you really need to be show the auto-collection area though ? It really doesn't take much to learn where it is, just go to stage 1, have some items dropping, and slowly climb the screen until it auto-collects them. Then you know where it is, and in no time, you'll just do it instinctively.

>>11904909
The guy who originally asked for a way to see the auto-collect border has played 2hu for 7 years. He clearly has brain damage, so don't try to make sense of it.

>>11904909
I may be overthinking this. I have a good idea of where the area is, but in some cases you just wanna barely trigger the auto-collect and fly down again. Moreover, there's a weird altitude where items will get auto-collected, but will not give you full points. I don't want to have that shit on my mind when I play. That's all. And the area is different for all characters, you get the point.

>>11904916
Whatever. Seeing how easily I got those clears it got me thinking. I guess I have grossly overestimated my total playtime, though that doesn't change the fact that it really has been 7 years. If that makes me retarded in your eyes, so be it.

>>11904643
AHK has always served me well for rebinding keys regardless of the game I played.

w::up
a::left
s::down
d::right
j::LShift
k::x
l::z

I like to have shot on L and J on lshift because those are what I use for shot(autofire) and lock shot(focus) in Ketsui. I'm not sure which control setup you'd use, but I hear that ASDV(v is up) is a pretty popular control scheme. I just use wasd because that's what I'm most used to and I'm a scrub who can only barely omote all! Changing my controls wouldn't make any difference I think.

>>11904967
>but in some cases you just wanna barely trigger the auto-collect and fly down again
That's a really bad idea if you want to score in PCB. If you leave the PoC while point items are travelling to you, you will not get the maximum value of them.
And I doubt you would need such precision with PoC for survival runs.

>>11905779
wowowow, never realized how easy c-s made ddp. two days awake and i'm falling asleep, still managed to see hibachi twice. i'd never be able to do that with c-l b-l or a-l. survival is getting too easy, maybe i should actually try chaining for once.

>>11906169
whoops didn't mean to reply to that post guess I'd better go to bed now

>>11906169
C-S rapes the game stage wise and reduces 2nd loop chaining to hold c button more or less but having to deal with that fuck face 2-6 boss is no fun I can imagine

>>11906169
C-S?

>>11906284
Type C-Shot

>>11905779
Look dude, I get that. Are you a nub, or is it really that hard to imagine a situation where you'd wanna do this ? Take the beginning of PCB Phantasm for example, those fucking fairies wreck your shit when you're high up and they only drop power / cherry. There might be a route that kills them all and collects all items, but I haven't found one so far and in normal play you'd just want to trigger AC and fly down again.

>>11905234
Thank you for actually helping, rather than derailing this discussion further. I guess I'll try AHK for the time being and have a look at touhou-wiki's patches. I was thinking of mapping movement to EFJI (JI is left / up), but it's interesting to hear about other configs, though I honestly don't see how ASDV is supposed to work. (Is it like left hand pinkie to index finger ?) My rationale was having both hands do movement with index and middle finger to achieve higher accuracy, because microtapping and pixel-movement is killing me with Sak A.

What do you mean with 'omote' ? How does that word apply to STGs ?

>>11906384
>Take the beginning of PCB Phantasm for example
What. It's easy. From PCB, I'd rather use the big fairies in the end of the fourth stage, or the spam on the sixth stage as examples of places where it's extremely difficult or impossible to PoC without a border.
http://replays.gensokyo.org/index.php?u=&g=7&p=&t=--&d=6&ch=40&order=score&sort=DESC

>What do you mean with 'omote' ?
Ketsui is a game that loops into two different routes after the first round, depending on how you have performed. Omote is the easier one of the two.

>>11906384
His point is that you don't need precision with the PoC if you're not even going to be scoring.

Funny that someone like you is calling anyone a "nub".

>>11906384
>Are you a nub
>the beginning of PCB Phantasm
What? You get full power in PCB Phantasm literally in the first 20 seconds. I even made a replay for you. Haven't touched PCB for like 2 years, but managed to remember my route on a second fucking attempt:
https://www.mediafire.com/?0d2i9388g70jm48

You're really retarded if you couldn't figure it out in less than 10 restarts. Or if you cannot google "game overlay" and draw a simple PoC line yourself.

>>11906277
fuck that cunt, everything beyond 2-5 is getting bombed if I make it that far in a run. chaining the first loop is hard though, so my morale is usually too fucked to continue playing seriously after 2-3. I love the game to death, but chaining is a real heart breaker. I don't have it in me to make save states anywhere but the beginning of stages and bosses...

>>11906384
Normally, you use it like ASD, but with your thumb on V for up instead. The idea behind it is that all four fingers will be on all of the movement keys at once, allowing for better movement and less finger travel time. I tried it, but with space instead and I sucked really bad. I use wasd and stick when I'm not lending it out to somebody. To be honest, I like keyboard more and my stick is kind of a shit. Omote loop is the shitty loop of ketsui, Ura loop is for men and you need to nmnb the first loop to hit it, you need to also hit 120M but that's easy as hell to do, so it's okay.

>>11906515
>mediafire
Just use gensokyo.org

>>11906491
I was specifically thinking of an example where there are only power / cherry items on screen. The beginning of stage 6 is pretty much impossible without BoLaD or bombing if you wanna collect everything anyway.
I'll watch yout replay later.

>>11906508
I'm not "calling him a nub". I'm calling you a retard though, because of your lack of reading comprehension.
Let me break it down for you:
>Look dude, I get that.
I get that to get full score per item you need to be somewhere above PoC.
>Are you a nub,
Are you ? Don't mean to disrespect, but if you're doing only survival runs yourself I don't think you'll see why I would want to have the PoC indicated more clearly.
>or is it really that hard to imagine a situation where you'd wanna do this ?
In case you actually are a better player than me and honestly can't think of any reason why anyone would want to have some indication, I'll give you an example.
>I go on to give an example
Even >>11906491 can think of a few stages where you might want to just trigger AC and go back to the bottom again. Why can't you ?

And why would you even assume that I'm not trying to score ? I always try to get all the items in every stage.

>>11906515
I'll watch your replay later, thanks for posting it.
Yeah, you get full power before you even get to the bigger fairies, but sometimes (as I don't have a good route yet) some of the weaker fairies manage to get away, which means I don't get their cherry items, and since you don't start with maximum cherry points you potentially lose a few million points in the long run. Is that line of reasoning really that hard to follow ? Moreover, if you read my previous posts, I specifically said I only cleared Phantasm for the first time this week. Of course I don't have an optimized route yet.

>>11906515
>Game Overlay
See, this is what I'm talking about. Why not bring that up sooner ? I wouldn't have thought of that exact phrasing and a quick google search seems to suggest that that is exactly what I was looking for.

>>11906562
Thanks for explaining and sharing your keyboard setup.
As for the stick, have you tried using a Seimitsu ? Supposedly they are better for STGs (I read that somewhere). I tried my Mad Catz TE (uses Sanwa) once for Touhou but it felt terrible.

>>11906700
>Why not bring that up sooner ?
Since people aren't very fond of sharing undetectable cheating methods.

>>11906802
Is that really such a big deal to all of you ?
I remember seeing some IIDX (or was it Pop'n ?) player cover the top of his screen with a piece of paper. I don't consider something like that cheating personally and IMHO using a tool or a piece of yarn to show the PoC doesn't really give you an unfair advantage over other players. Seeing how the vanilla game (without VSync patch) is virtually unplayable I would have expected more acceptance towards 'soft' modifications like this. And if you were to do a real run aiming to beat the japanese top scores you'd better have some proof your run is legit, like a recording of your hands while you do the run.

>>11906880
>Seeing how the vanilla game (without VSync patch) is virtually unplayable
It's a frame buffering bug due to the program being so old. On certain hardware with certain configurations, the excessive delay isn't there.

>>11906880
>I don't consider something like that cheating personally
It's not up to you to decide. If you plan to share your results with a community, then you had better abide by their rules.

>IMHO using a tool or a piece of yarn to show the PoC doesn't really give you an unfair advantage over other players.
Tell that to the MoF players.

>>11906562
Isnt Omote the loop where the scoring system doesnt suck dick?

Shits out

http://store.steampowered.com/app/253750/

>>11908167
oh that's today, neat

might buy it again just for the hd

:\

http://www.twitch..tv/mgfanatic
I have a little time to waste. So I'll stream some Touhou. I'm just a bit average and want to beat Double Dealing Character.

Nice, I was able to beat Double Dealing Character. I apologize for the earlier stream link.

I just 1CC'd EoSD Easy, and I have to say, Zun can be dickish at times.

Whats the best poster?

>>11894961
SpoilerAL.
>>11909067
>>11909101
Congratulations!

I only 1 cced IN and MoF on normal before, what is the next easiest game to clear

>>11909705
10d and pcb

>>11909716
youmu is too hard

>>11909767
Use your bombs. And don't forget that half of stage 4 is easier if you don't shoot.

>>11909777
i went to stage 5 with 5 lives and i lost them all including my bombs and i died on ten desires and got really angry so i punched the wall now my hand hurts so i can't play

>>11909796
I slammed my fist into my leg really hard after dying at the very end of 1-5 with no deaths and no bombs, Omote yet again when it would have been Ura had I not died. Literally one more shot and he would have died, Ura would have been mine.

Horrible. I never really get mad enough to do that, but the death was just ridiculous and the cause of it was my own stupidity, so it was justified. I will probably never play good enough to get to 1-5 with a NMNB again either, so yeah. I think I'm just going to stick to cheat state practice for a few days now.

>>11910009
Isnt Omote more fun lacks the bug.

>>11910322
I play Omote in full runs a lot, Ura in cheat states much much more, omote is a lot more fun to me but god dammit I just want to see the Ura loop in an actual run. I don't care if I can't even make it past Ura-2 or U-3, I just want to be able to say that I'm good enough to get to ura and potentially 2-all eventually.

God DAMN though, I die so much when I play Ura in practice runs. The only stage I've NMNB'd fully is U-2, which only happened once after about two hours of grinding it. On the other hand, it's great first loop practice. Most of my runs end up with only one or two misses/bombs, usually in 1-4 or 1-5. I'm debating whether or not I should just go back to playing esp ra.de for now, but the boss milking in that game makes me want to kill myself. The survival is lovely.

>>11910529
Just keep being a stubborn bastard and play Ketsui thats what I say.

I myself have not yet made up what to play..

>>11909777
i can't beat 10 desires because i keep getting overconfident at yoshika but can't dodge and don't react fast enough to death bomb because my hand is on c instead of b and get really angry so i just alt f4 i don't even have a high score

everytime i die i lost motivation to even continue and just end up running into bullets or alt f4ing i hate myself

>>11911538
Well. Depending on how bad I'm doing I usually end up doing 1 of three things: Realize it's going to take some practice, get some snacks/drinks and throw up some good music to grind to. Watch people better than me play to hopefully get a better idea on what I should be doing. Or just quit.

If I'm getting pissy I try to calm myself cuz I play much worse frustrated. If I can't I just take a break.

I feel like I've improved a ton this way, though I've only been seriously into these kind of games for a few months now.

So yeah, don't give up just because shit happens.

>>11911551
i went back to pcb and youmu took 6 of my lives again
i don't feel angry dying though
maybe it's because ten desires is easy and i get really mad at myself for dying and not because it's the game that's hard

i can't do it

I hate ten desires so much it's not even hard but I keep messing up and it's so hard to get bombs or lives and it's not very enjoyable. Even if I can't get past yuyuko i still find PCB fun but ten desires isn't very enjoyable

None of you plays this?

>>11911732
Practice more, or watch video then practice more.

Or quit

>>11912040
here's my furthest so far
what does 1cc mean anyway, do I have to beat it with all the characters? I only beat IN with reimu/yukari and marisa/alice and MoF with MarisaC

>>11912083
1 credit clear, usually just no continues used.

>>11912083
1cc is 1cc (no continue), doesn't matter if it's with any char.

But if you can do 1cc for everyone on same diff, that means you conquered that diff (almost)

>>11912086
>>11912089
is pcb and 10D suppose to be easier?

>>11912094
Feels about the same IMO. To people who says IN is easy, fuck you guys. Stage 4 in particular is BS

If you want hard touhou, play SA or UFO, those two are evil (or play STB/DS)

Any tips for 1cc UFO lunatic? Already done the other games.

>>11912144
IN is basically gimmicks: the game. It's easy once you get it figured out.

EoSD and GFW are the real hard games.

>>11912529
Post your scores, etc

>>11912519
embrace the purple

>>11912529
>IN is gimmick
>GFW is real hard
Wait what

>>11912519
Ignore the UFOs.

>>11912519
Bomb every threatening pattern.

Is there a guide to installing the games with the actual disks on an english Win 7? I actually have a couple of the games physical discs, and I would like to use them.

Has anyone beat Patchouli? I always die before I before I reach her.

Has anyone beat Patchouli? I always die before I reach her.

Is PCB supposed to be this easy on normal, or does the difficulty pick up soon?

>>11913084
I got my answer in the form of two accidental deaths and losing to the Stage 4 Boss.

How did I do for playing blind?

>>11913054
you probably need to change your region to japanese

>>11913073
no one has ever beaten patchouli. Keep trying, you could be the first!

>>11913054
>>11913100
I ended up looking at the disc I had, and copying the game directory on to my hard drive. It worked.

>>11913137
I'm glad you got that figured out (:

>>11912994
>>11913036
Thanks, I guess.

I suck at Touhou and have only recently begun grasping the fact I don't have to be focussed %99 of the time.

Is there some sort of fantastic secret I'm missing to git gud, or is it all practise?

The furthest I've gotten is stage 5 in IN, but IN seems really easy compared to the other games.

>>11913868
>Is there some sort of fantastic secret I'm missing to git gud, or is it all practise?
Play more. Be born with the ability to learn things faster than others.

>>11912985
not that anon, but getting gold medals in GFW is really ridiculously hard with some routes.

>>11913868
there are basic shmup techniques to learn - like streaming, misdirection, and knowing where on the screen to look in different situations - but you can probably pick those up just with practice and problem-solving. of course, it certainly doesn't hurt to watch good runs though to pick up what others do right.

beyond that, it's just a combination of honing your skills, learning/memorizing patterns, and planning runs so you optimize your resources.

>>11913868
there are basic shmup techniques to learn - like streaming, misdirection, and knowing where on the screen to look in different situations - but you can probably pick those up just with practice and problem-solving. of course, it certainly doesn't hurt to watch good runs to pick up on what others do well.

beyond that, it's just a combination of honing your skills, learning/memorizing patterns, and planning runs so you optimize your resources.

>>11913937
The gold medals are a joke. You're supposed to freeze and get the silver ones.

>>11913868
You'll need to be very talented to get good. Playing a lot will only help you improve if you have the talent necessary to do so. To find some motivation, visit #kusoplay to communicate with the superplayers and witness how often they get good runs and world record level scores. If you fail to 1cc Lunatic after about 50 hours or so of playing, you might be better off giving up as you lack the proper genetic disposition.

>>11914063
>If you fail to 1cc Lunatic after about 50 hours or so of playing, you might be better off giving up as you lack the proper genetic disposition.
nope.

unless you're trolling, in which case sure.

>>11914107
At least provide an example instead of making a useless "lel troll xd" post. As far as I've seen it over the years, every good player that exists right now never started from being complete shit. They all started with 1cc'ing Lunatics, NB runs and scoring right from the start, while most of the people who flopped around trying to get their first Lunatic 1cc for nearly hundreds of hours got nowhere beyond a Lunatic 1cc.

>>11914138
good is relative. your threshold seems to be nmnb or near-wr scoring. most people would consider that to be excellent, not simply good. and someone who's just started and is working on a normal 1cc would certainly have a lower threshold of good, making your post highly misleading to him.

regardless, even if the best someone could do would be getting simple lunatic 1ccs, that could obviously be enjoyable in itself. it would be hard-earned from the perspective of someone who started off as "complete shit".

so telling someone new to toho that he needs to get lunatic 1ccs asap or quit is misleading and condescending.

>>11914222
New thread

>>11914063
No one on #kusoplay could 1cc Lunatic within 50 hours of play.

>>11914171
that feelio dealio when I gave up after being unable to chain the entire first loop of ddp because I heard most people chain it all after 30 hours of practice, I'm on about 140 or so hours still can only chain up until 1-4 before I need to puss out and play survival on 1-5.