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Anonymous Sun Jan 19 13:58:07 2014 No.11820634 [Reply] [Original]

Does /jp/ know any musicians with a style similiar to ZUN? I can hear some classical, jazz and death metal influences in his music, and he seems to be heavily inspired by folk music, but I can't seem to find any artist who composes with such grace and sturdiness at the same time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 13:59:36 2014 No.11820639 he literally steals his melodies

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:01:51 2014 No.11820648 File: 37 KB, 381x295, 1390158108653.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11820639

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:02:06 2014 No.11820654 I think it's funny some people refer to ZUN's song as 'pieces'.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:03:36 2014 No.11820658 File: 117 KB, 552x368, 1384830184605.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ZUNTATA Beethoven

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:04:06 2014 No.11820662 Bach

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:04:36 2014 No.11820661 >>11820654 Well they are pieces of something, that's for sure.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:09:21 2014 No.11820669 DJ Okawari is the only thing I can think of. Also, you're a faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:12:21 2014 No.11820672 >>11820654 I think it's funny people call them "songs" when they don't have lyrics, but that's just me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:13:36 2014 No.11820679 File: 146 KB, 720x660, 1384284692512.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:15:21 2014 No.11820684 >>11820679 Fuck off, Satori.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:20:51 2014 No.11820696 >>11820634 >death metal Wat. >>11820672 It's not just you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:23:21 2014 No.11820703 >>11820684 This is a bully free zone, you nerd.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:24:06 2014 No.11820707 File: 15 KB, 160x151, 1390159496113.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11820684

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:26:21 2014 No.11820710 >>11820654 it's a term commonly used in that way by musicians and in music I use it all the time

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:27:21 2014 No.11820713 >>11820696 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXQqnKgjyHo This is a standard death metal percussion beat starting at 0:07.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:32:51 2014 No.11820726 >>11820713 Perhaps, but it's ZUN we're talking about, he must have used every possible beat pattern at some point of time already.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:37:51 2014 No.11820742 >>11820713 Sounds jazzy than death metal though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:39:08 2014 No.11820746 >>11820742 Sounds very Bach-y to me, StB and DS soundtracks sound more like jazz than anything else tho.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:40:38 2014 No.11820748 >>11820634 How about all the musicians ZUN copies?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:44:38 2014 No.11820764 >>11820748 Every musician less or more copies other musicians. It's time to grow up.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 15:11:55 2014 No.11820829 File: 1.94 MB, 3872x2592, on3b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11820672 He wrote lyrics to his theme song, but didn't have anyone sing them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 15:25:40 2014 No.11820875 >>11820764 Every shitty musician, yes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 15:32:25 2014 No.11820898 File: 359 KB, 720x660, spritualised.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11820875 when you copy great musicians you get great music.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 15:53:55 2014 No.11820937 >>11820898 http://www.last.fm/group/%2Fjp%2F/members which one of these are you?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 16:02:10 2014 No.11820945 File: 120 KB, 720x660, temp3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11820937 I never used last.fm

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 16:05:55 2014 No.11820952 File: 215 KB, 564x490, 1369778066357.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11820945 /mu/drone that doesnt have last.fm? LOL.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 16:08:40 2014 No.11820958 File: 342 KB, 720x660, it's hard to explain.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11820952 I don't visit /mu/ lol funny pic btw

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 16:14:40 2014 No.11820966 >>11820958 can you make one with albert ayler's love cry? TIA

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 16:33:40 2014 No.11821016 File: 112 KB, 720x660, aa.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11820966

Anonymous Sun Jan 19 16:52:10 2014 No.11821062

>>11820875
Not who you're replying to, but is there a musician out there who wasn't inspired (inspiration being copying pre-existing styles and mixing it with your own) by a single other artist? Not even his/her own parents? Like I'm genuinely curious and would love to hear their music.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 16:58:25 2014 No.11821071 >>11820662 This

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 17:18:40 2014 No.11821098 >>11820648 post the comic

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 17:39:18 2014 No.11821136 File: 390 KB, 819x718, Untitled.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 17:45:33 2014 No.11821155 >>11820764 um, no, if we're talking legitimate plagiarism, in which case I'd like to see examples provided since i'm not aware of them. if we're just talking about similar styles then yes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 19:02:39 2014 No.11821344 >>11821155 He's taken a few melodies directly from romantic J-pop songs and things. In such a different context, I think it's fine.

Anonymous Sun Jan 19 20:36:44 2014 No.11821539

The songs that he lifted from other media are, as said on the tin, lifted from other media so they have fuck all to do with his actual style.

To me ZUN is about developing the melodies -while- going fast, piano preferred. Unfortunately I only know of individual songs that fit the bill.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NkNmVAUx-s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LviULdjhuq8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD4BsHgc-08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq-HbOF1xvI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZYbnCfdVbU

BEMANI is actually a pretty decent place to start. The songs are -required- to be fast in the first place, and some people can be pretty good with the melodies.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 20:38:00 2014 No.11821542 Music from old TAITO games, seeing as they had influence on him, plus the fact he works at TAITO

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 20:49:00 2014 No.11821573 >>11821539 The similarities with some stuff from Umineko is most likely not coincidental, ZUN's well known to be friends with Ryukishi.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 23:41:54 2014 No.11821815 >>11820713 that's kind of a silly claim, its computer generated percussion to begin with

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 00:27:56 2014 No.11821861 >>11821062 I guarantee you that any musician who created completely original music, with no inspiration/copying from anybody else would sound like utter shit.

Anonymous Mon Jan 20 02:10:43 2014 No.11822069

>>11820634
>>11820654
>>11820662
>>11820746
>>11821344
>>11821539
>>11821573

OP it is what is wonderful of ZUN, actually in my opinion how stupid it can look like to others he inspired the philosophy of Jeet Kune Do applied to music sort of, he just showed everyone to express themselves and go innovative with music and that would looks good, mix every single type of music you have idea that can be mixed and create a 'piece'.

Actually I have in mind an artist that I can't understand his style but I know what motivated him and he is yoshikawa45(-45) also I believe is close to ZUN since he made music for Umineko and other doujins. Hes influenced by Bach a lot in his melodies, Goa and gothic dark theme, but I've been following him for long time and every time I listed to a song of his I know its from him, its like he gets a signature in the music for his works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNiOe5Lt49k

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 02:30:58 2014 No.11822085 jesus fucking christ /jp/ has the worst taste in everything shit games shit music shit everything Try to leave the house once in a while

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 02:34:28 2014 No.11822089 >>11822085 /mu/ pls

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 02:39:32 2014 No.11822097 ryuichi sakamoto

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 02:44:02 2014 No.11822106 >>11822085 Go throw a tantrum somewhere else little kid

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 02:45:32 2014 No.11822108 >>11822069 >Chaos Code OST - 19 - Reflections Of Eternity (Celia II Intro) It sounds vaguely like RefRain ~Prism Memories~. Very pleasant and powerful. Since RebBank and Amusement Makers are related it makes sense I suppose.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 03:00:34 2014 No.11822127 File: 192 KB, 300x377, 1389588086212.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11822085

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 04:47:11 2014 No.11822259 >>11821062 ZUN doesn't copy only styles, but melodies too. There's a difference, and you'd have to be one deluded fanboy not to notice it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 05:36:42 2014 No.11822313 >>11822259 The three videos showed that he only copied melodies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 05:46:27 2014 No.11822318 >>11822069 Reminded me of this song I did. https://soundcloud.com/ryunocore/waterlily-ascends

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 07:41:50 2014 No.11822457 This? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQX08Mc8FcE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbrKFoj-lRw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Rx6UfuBdo

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 08:46:38 2014 No.11822548 >>11820829 I hope he sings them himself in TH15.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 19:12:42 2014 No.11824035 File: 93 KB, 777x777, 1345269607768.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11820634 What does ZUN use to make his music? Maybe /jp/ can generate its own examples for the original content threads.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 19:15:42 2014 No.11824040 File: 119 KB, 850x938, Rumia tongue.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11824035 That picture's fuggin cute dude.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 20:02:59 2014 No.11824145 >>11822097 this guy is right and also many other composer at TAITO, such as the glorious ZUNTATA band.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 20:08:29 2014 No.11824157 File: 32 KB, 499x333, 226930.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11822085

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 20:13:14 2014 No.11824166 Here is a list of artists similar to ZUN. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_trumpeters

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 22:18:51 2014 No.11824503 >>11820634 ZUN is a pioneer of Trumpet-core.

>>	Anon Wed Jan 22 21:00:52 2014 No.11830925 File: 649 KB, 1000x1400, 1345517305816.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11824503 using trumpets simulated with what tool?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 23 05:52:47 2014 No.11832042 >>11822318 >waterlily ascends You did good work.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 23 07:40:38 2014 No.11832251 >>11832042 thank you

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 24 13:19:16 2014 No.11836076 >>11820634 Yasunori Mitsuda, though it may not be a fair comparison because JRPGs and shmups are like apples and oranges: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gumt8xfnspk

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 24 13:20:48 2014 No.11836079 >>11830925 ZUN Trumpets, of course!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 24 19:16:50 2014 No.11836913 >>11824035 I remember reading in an interview he still used an old Roland Keyboard.

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