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What was the best decade to be an Otaku? Also 70s/80s/90s Otaku thread.

>> No.11811972

80's
>glorious hand-drawn animation
>animation cells could easily be acquired
>glorious synth pop

>> No.11811978

this decade

>> No.11811986

>>11811978
except for the weeabo's generally besmirching the term.

>> No.11811987

90's.
>Sega Saturn
Do I need another reason?

>> No.11811991

also is it me or is the guy in the 00's kind of a dweeb
>no Gundam plamo
>no game console
>no awesome merch collection
>generally less cool

>> No.11811994

>>11811991
But he has 3 game consoles.

>> No.11811995

That picture is from 80s to 00s

What's a 70s otaku like?

>> No.11812008

What are the numbers for?

>> No.11812012

>>11812008
The full article described each numbered item.

>> No.11812016
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>>11811972
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcOiJnWniWg

>> No.11812021
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>Using normalfags term
Guy Jean considers himself as a "Otaku" since he watches and reads Nurutu everyweek.

>> No.11812020

>>11811995
beating up kids for their lunch money so you can buy LP's of animu OST's
>>11812016
>Flashworx
my nigga

>> No.11812023

2000+s
Modern technology makes it so you can socialize with other otaku over the internet. This means you don't have to go to normalfag conventions in order to buy or sell your products, since places like pixiv and dlsite make it easy to share or sell fanworks. Because of that, you don't have to depend so much on official products for your otaku goods. It gives a more by-the-fans feeling than I imagine earlier otaku times would have given, while allowing you to be comfortable in your own home. With things like net characters and kickstarter, otaku culture might become its own thing seperate from corporate anime and video games altogether.

The only thing is that otaku culture has, by now, separated itself entirely from science fiction. Almost from fantasy entirely, as most things aren't even wishes for so much as a magical girlfriend/wife, just normal average every day school life, maybe with something making it abnormal for spice. I mean there's still plenty of "we are bound by fate and magic", but how many recent anime have the couple living together and being declared as a couple, whether the guy agrees with it or not? The normalness of anime nowadays is kind of disturbing. It's like it's not used for escapism or imagination, but to reminisce about things that never happened or just fantasize about fugging schoolgirls.

Also what's that fairy in the middle image over 6. I don't remember that.

>> No.11812022

>>11812008
>>11812012
full article here
http://kotaku.com/5520555/the-evolution-of-the-otaku-room

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>>11812021
fucking related.

>> No.11812030

>>11812027
you sound no different from those weeabo fucks.

>> No.11812027

>>11812021
>>11812024
Don't let these things ruin your strong otaku spirit! Always remember that otaku are not simply made, they are born!

Otaku Pride World Wide!

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>>11812024
Damn if it weren't for restriction on posting duplicate images I would repost this!

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>>11812029
edit one pixel and go nuts.
btw I actually collected this shit.
say the word and I'll dump it.

>> No.11812039

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z-0Bag-HL4
I want to go back in time and bang Miho Morikawa

>> No.11812041

>>11811957
Things have only gotten lewder.

>> No.11812043

>>11812041
www

>> No.11812052

>>11812041
..and more moe-fied

>> No.11812053

'90s games and '00s anime

>> No.11812055
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>>11812020
I love these threads

>> No.11812058

>>11812055
This for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2Zys15ZbAg

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>>11812058
those computers!

>> No.11812063

>>11812058
wasn't there this YT channel that had videos of PC-98 computers that drew anime pictures?

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>>11812023
There's arguably less pure science fiction now, but fantasy as a whole is, overall, arguably more plentiful than ever. And I think it's more a matter of perspective. There was always "realistic" anime and there were otaku watching it, it just wasn't made by and for otaku. Now it is, since pretty much the entire industry is run by and for otaku in one way or another.

>Also what's that fairy in the middle image over 6.

>ダンバイ

That'd make it... Aura Battler Dunbine?

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is there any DOS/V games i should check out?

>> No.11812068

Have the gotten more or less awkward over time?

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To get you guys in the mood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arlj3_lcQ-c
Yes it's a top 25 with all that entails but I still like it. Also it's interesting that it's also completely dominated by mecha anime. Was that genre really that prevalent in the 80s?

>> No.11812082

>>11812024
What's a flying mint bunny?

>> No.11812087

The eroge scene got much better although it's pretty shit now.

>> No.11812095
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It seems to me that we have more to watch/read/play along with other options like ordering everything online and never meeting people. We might like the idea of never having to leave our homes but the mental health seem to be declining. Even if most of us never want to go out side it seems like it's good for us to do it now and then.


So I think it's worse for us if we are talking mental health and the average happiness of our lifetimes.

>> No.11812120

>>11812078
> Was that genre really that prevalent in the 80s?
Mecha anime was pretty much always 52+ episodes long, each year aired about 3-4 mecha shows. Takahashi and Tomino were making mecha anime like there is no tomorrow. And there were very few(compared to today, of course) anime made each year.
The real answer is though, a whole shitload of stuff does not and never will have english subs, that's why scrubs think that mecha was so dominant, because that's the only genre that got translated so much. There were a lot of mecha, but it wasn't completely dominating.

>> No.11812125

>>11812041
I think things have gotten less lewd. I mean we get more full nude ecchi shows because of the hatred against pantyshots, but at the same time girls tend to wear things like dresses more often. Barely anyone walks around in those full lewd all the time outfits like in the old times. Leotards, clingy bodysuits, thongs as part of the lower wear. Female warriors are more likely to wear a long skirt with armor plates than a bikini with shoulder pads or a miniskirt with a thong. Girls in adventures or future were pretty much like in that jousting armor in walkurie romanize in completely (relatively) non sexual anime and games.

Something about the way they draw bodies nowadays is less lewd too. In the 80s, it was all about the chubby kind of legs and hips. In the 90s it was all about boobs and perma-hard nipples. In the 2000s, it was this kind of distorted hypersexualized bodies/outfits(like go look at art on random anime style artist sites from the early 2000s) that aren't drawn anymore. Although due to the moeification, they're drawing lolis that are flat chested now.

>> No.11812128

>>11812082
I think weeabo's trying to sound "random"

>> No.11812131

>>11812095
>the mental health seem to be declining.

I think it's increasing. Since they can socialize online, they don't become these shut in bullied no-one-to-talk to types that steal panties and stab people and can't properly talk to anyone. I can only imagine 70-80s otaku as being the creeperest.

>> No.11812134

>>11812024
That's clearly a troll image made with the intent to stir negative emotions in those who read it.

>> No.11812139

>>11812022
>shitaku!!

>> No.11812153

>>11812134
might be but weeabo's are taking that shit serious
I see it sometimes in anime groups and page on fagbook

>> No.11812160

>11812024

Can someone find a reply picture wherein it says "You're not an Otaku, You're a Weeaboo!"

>> No.11812165

Please don't insult weeaboo's, they are just budding otaku who haven't yet seen the light of what nippon has to fully offer.

Josip on Deck told me so.

>> No.11812180

>>11811986
The overall shittier fanbase aside, I would agree with that guy. This is a great time to pursue otaku interests thanks to the technology we have, namely the internet. Thanks to the internet we don't have to find some niche store in the corner of town just to watch anime or play an imported game that is if your town even has such a store. We can just sit at home and download anything we want. 70s/80s/90s whatever your interests are, the internet will have it and you won't even have to worry about there only being a small selection like you might at that store in the corner of town. Maybe you're too embarrassed to be seen getting hentai or figures. No problem, there is an eternity's worth of fap material (and for free I might add)and online store will ship those figures to you so you don't even have to leave the house.

This is an even better time for those who don't understand Japanese. Before you had to rely on dubs or official subtitles. Now there are people that translate your manga/doujin and put it online so you don't have to learn another language. There are even people who make their own subtitles for shows that would never even see subtitles otherwise.

Yeah the fanbase is shittier now due to more people having access to these things but let's face it, they probably had their own versions of annoying weeaboo fucks back in the 70s/80s/90s. They are just more noticeable now because of the internet. But the beauty of the internet is that you can simply ignore them and go about your day since it's not like you are stuck with them at the niche anime store or something.

>> No.11812187

I think 90s with a higher level of technology would be amazing.

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>>11812187
I prefer magnetic storage!

yay vhs!

no bull shit

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>>11812208
Don't mind me! Just off to watch Dirty Pair on LD

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>>11812230
http://cinemassacre.com/2010/02/23/laserdisc/

i never seen any irl actually

>> No.11812244

>>11812180
>they probably had their own versions of annoying weeaboo fucks back in the 70s/80s/90

You couldn't really have that because there wasn't this Japan lust, nor the ability for people to circlejerk on the internet and feel proud about themselves. They probably had to deal more with those "I'm awesome, you're shit" type people more if anything. Nerd culture used to be nerd culture. All these non-typical video games players wasn't a thing back then either.

That said, back in the 80s-90s when martial arts movies were around and Samurai and Ninja were still cool, there were wapanese who were actually wapanese, and not low level "I love anime and so want to move to Japan and go to Akiba" wapanese either. Fukken hardcore weebs. I don't think they really associated with anime though, because anime only really got distinct from western cartoons when it started being hyped in the 90s. Anime before then aired on tv and nothing was thought about it(outside the budding otaku who wanted more of course.) Ask your parents(or grandparents at this point) and they'll be all like "speed racer, kimba, gigantor" and stuff. It's only when it became "that new hot shit 『JAPANIMATION』" that this obsession with anime started amongst the people who'd become weebs.

Hell this whole unironic pride in being a nerd is new.

>> No.11812255

>>11812187
>I think 90s with a higher level of technology would be amazing
Isn't that what today is?

>>11812208
>yay vhs!
>no bull shit
Rewinding is the biggest bullshit.

>> No.11812260

>>11812255

90s had a different feeling to it. I'm talking better internet, better graphics and stuff. But no iphones or Twitter.

>> No.11812268

>>11812244
Maybe I should have phrased it better by just saying "annoying people" in general. I'm sure they had the annoying fanboy types in Japan even back then too.

As far as the western fandom goes you're right. I forgot this wasn't even a thing until the late 80s and 90s. I guess I was thinking more of comic book fans as far as niche stores in the west go. I'm sure some comic book stores had that odd thing from Japan or two though.

>> No.11812270

>>11812268
>I'm sure some comic book stores had that odd thing from Japan or two though.
I remember some localized version of Kamen Rider called "Masked Rider" and an Ultraman comic.

>> No.11812272

>>11812255
my VCR rewinds automatically!

>> No.11812349

>>11811957
>What was the best decade to be an Otaku?
In the west? Probably now, unless you were rich or lived in Japan, and knew Japanese.

In Japan, I personally like the 90s for because of nostalgia glasses.

It would be fascinating walking around old akiba. With the basketball court, old radio kaikan, hokoten, and when the area was mostly an electronics town.

Also, glorifying Japanese otaku is fine and all, but the aniota niwaka thing is huge. The vast majority of these people don't bother to watch anything before they started getting into anime. If I mention 90s' stuff other than Jump/Sailor moon etc...I get blank stares from self professed otaku. It's a miracle if younger people know anything from the 80s' or before.

I think "Anime fan" is a more accurate term for them than "otaku," which I associate with obsessive levels of knowledge and dedication.

>> No.11812391

>>11812244
Those types of weeaboos aren't necessarily any less deluded. A lot of them have an idealized katanafag view of samurai, many of whom were simply feudal bureaucrats and quite often corrupt. Early Japanophilia was focused just as much on a skewed image of Japan as modern weebs. The difference was it focused on Japan as a bastion of unique values—honor, a social structure based on dependence, a love for formal beauty, and a closeness with nature. The Japanese didn't discourage it, as it played into their nationalism. A lot of post-war nihonjinron exalted these same "unique" qualities of the Japanese with very little factual basis. Westerners who bought into "Japanese uniqueness" uncritically would likely face the same disappointment upon arriving in Japan as the anime fan whose bought into the Danny Choo Otacool bullshit.

As to the OP's question, it's obviously this decade in terms of accessibility and variety of content to consume, but your age and interests play into it.

>> No.11812406

>>11812349
What is "anything"? I'm not defending them, but I couldn't recognize lots of things that came out in the last 10 years, let alone in the 90s, even though I watch lots of anime. I mean I know you like the stuff you like but anime is a niche even in Japan, it's not like everyone who likes anime would be an encyclopedia of all anime, nor would someone know something just because its popular. e.g., I couldn't name a single character from whatevermonogatari, even though it's really popular with other people, because I'm not interested in it. It's like being disappointed someone only likes Gundam and doesn't know any non-Gundam anime in detail.

Furthermore what's the value of watching things from before they got into anime? The same stories and concepts are repeated over and over. It's way more formulaic than books, movies, or music, so don't even try to compare them. It has as much value as playing Raiden because you got into Touhou. You can like our old stuff but don't think it's more valuable than modern stuff. Someone who got into anime through, say, SAC can like anime as much as someone who got in through the first GitS movie, or someone who started because Macross. They don't need oldschool cred to be otaku.

>> No.11812424

>>11812391
You know, thinking about it, the 90s told me Japs bowed all the time but anime told me they rarely ever bow. I'm conflicted. If I ever did go to Japan, how much would they bow?

>> No.11812431

>>11812406
On that note, would you say sometimes western fans can be more dedicated than the Japanese? I mean, we generally pride ourselves on the sheer amount of content we've seen, and our knowledge of the medium as a whole.

>> No.11812444

>>11812406
I don't expect everyone to know everything, but I'd expect a certain level of familiarity with the basics.

For example, you don't have to be a mecha expert to be expected to have at least heard of Nadesico or Yuusha series (any one will do). You don't have to be an otaku history expert to at least know about Daicon videos and to not call ELO "the densha otoko song."

>>11812431
I don't think I'd agree. Japanese otaku (with a ヲ) can reach ridiculous levels of holy fuck expert-ness. They're rarer now, but they're still as ridiculous as ever if you're ever lucky enough to meet them.

>> No.11812448

>>11812431
Not him, but I get the impression that a lot of these people treat the number of anime they've watched as a high score to beat other people over the head with, which is just retarded.

The average Japanese person who watches anime is not particularly dedicated anyway. It's something to do in your spare time. No westerner I've seen has anything on the real fanatics, though.

>> No.11812453

>>11812444
>>11812448
Thanks for the insight, I just wonder if westerners are starting to get more fanatical about anime than the Japanese.

Also, I'd be depressed if someone didn't know ELO outside of Daicon or Densha Otoko.`

>> No.11812490

>>11812406
>anime is a niche even in Japan

Can we stop with this bullshit, please? Anime is as mainstream as possible and the only way you could think otherwise is if you somehow believed that things /a/ soils their collective pants about are all there is to anime.

>> No.11812491

>>11812453
>>11812444
To be honest, I only know ELO from a flash on /f/ that had this song "2095" in it. I don't know a single fucking other thing about them except they apparently made a song that was in Daicon videos.(I never watched the media version of Densha Otoko either, although I'm aware of the whole incident from people talking about the story online.) I also, despite having watched them, don't know what's so great about the videos or what Daicon even is besides a con. (or any con besides comiket really.)

So anyway, my point is, what's so great about some grandpa band that I've only heard about on 4chan?

>> No.11812502

>>11812490
Anime is mainstream in the same way Ninja Turtles or Simpsons or South Park is mainstream. The rest of anime is like Ralph Bakshi or John Kricfalusi cartoons.

Video games have become mainstream, but tell me 4X or grand strategy games are mainstream.

>> No.11812561

>>11812491
My inner /mu/ hurts. If you like symphonic pop, they're pretty big in both quality and historical significance. If you don't, well, you have shit taste, but you're entitled to it, listen to what you like.

>>11812502
It's mainstream in the same way 3D-rendered Pixar movies and their imitators are mainstream in the west. Only even more.

>> No.11812575

>>11812444
But who's to decide what the basics are?

Think of it this way - the more dedicated someone is, the less he has time for anything else. What if someone is a 4koma otaku and is too busy reading 4koma magazines and watching 4koma adaptations to have time or money to waste on old mecha series?

>> No.11812623

>>11812561
>My inner /mu/ hurts.

Sorry, but because of what you said, I'm now categorizing them with that lady with the potato slice for a head on a boat image.

>> No.11812878

>>11812078

where suki sa?

>> No.11812917

>>11812502
Videogames were always pretty mainstream, though.

>> No.11812924

>>11811986
Besmirching the term "otaku"?

I don't know what to say here, but it's enough to say you are a HUGE faggot.

>> No.11812928

>>11812924
point is that they claimed a term for themselves without knowing what it means.
It's kinda like if Japanese tweens where to call themselves "nigga's" for liking rap music.

>> No.11812938

This really makes me nostalgic for the early 90s but I guess this was made in '83.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HTyPPELmY0

>> No.11812947

>>11812938
...this wasn't an original ed for maria holic...?

...

>> No.11813002

>>11812947
no

>> No.11813167

>>11812947
I really like the original end made for JJBA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKr46XveL6w

>> No.11813277

>>11813167
I wonder if they can license Holy Diver for part 3.

>> No.11813279

>>11813277
Watch them get the killswitch engage version.

>> No.11813290

What's a 2010s otaku like?

>> No.11813296

>>11813290
not that much different from the other decades except less out-going because he/she orders everything online.
Except for the self-proclaimed "otaku" who are just obnoxious narutards.

>> No.11813325

>>11813290
Obsessed with 2hus, card games, megucas, lesbianism and girlishness in general.

>>11813296
>less out-going
Less out-going otaku would be like... mute hikkis.

>> No.11813332

>>11813325
back in the 70's and 80's there wasn't such a thing as the internet. So if you wanted something like a VHS or LP of your favorite anime you had to go to a brick and mortar store.

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>>11812033
Dump it.

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>>11813344
okie dokie
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dumping the first 10 files in the folder.

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>>11813360
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also uploading the entire folder as a handy-dandy zip.

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>>11813372
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>> No.11813393

>>11812938
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HTyPPELmY0

Oh man YMO is awesome. Their recent NHK performance was so good. This all really makes me nostalgic for 90s music. I think more than anything music is what I like the best. Not just Japanese but all forms. I just finished listening to Roni Size's New Forms album and it was such a blast from the past. I wish I was into the eastern culture more back in the 90s. I came around more in the new millennium but I think it's nice to have a decent exposure to multiple forms of nerdy culture. I can't help but feel like I missed out though.

>> No.11813394

>>11813372
Albeit I haven't been out in the wild amongst these kids since the last time I bought toys from somewhere besides Mandarake, how is this still a thing? I mean, the whole weeb culture was dying when I left highschool years ago and....just, how? How is this shit spreading when toonami is just reairing old 90s anime and it's basically the only window save the internet that kids nowadays can get into it? Are they all able to figure out crunchyroll and spawn from there or is it just deviantart that they come from?

>> No.11813403

>>11813394

Streaming. I managed to meet someone through a friend of mine who claimed to be an "anime fan". I though it might be cool to meet him and he turned out to just stream Naruto and not really care about anything other than labeling himself as an "anime fan". Goes around his house and yells at his cat in Japanese that he's taken from the big three and that's about it. I try to not talk to him about that kind of stuff anymore.

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>>11813394
I blame it on Naruto and it's "spawn" (Advancing Titans,Fairy Tail,SAO,etc.)
Or they just thought it was cool back in the 90's and only just found out that there's more "animay" out there other than DBZ.
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>>11813404
9/192
uploading of the zip is at 27%

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>>11813409
it's going to take a while so I'm going to keep dumping.
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>>11813414
11/192
btw "Arika Koizumi" is an old proxy of mine.

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>>11813417
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>> No.11813430

>>11813403
This is why I'm afraid to make friends with anyone outside of this website. At least if you're a fag here, you're generally a halfways knowledgeable faglord that's amusing to talk to. As this thread proves again /jp/sies are the most cool faglords in terms of knowledge of old shit.

>>11813404
But these people can't be born before 1990. Everyone I knew as a kid that was THE BIG ANIME FAN got over it by the time they went to college or whatever. These kids must have grown up with regular old shitty cartoons yet somehow latch onto ten year old anime and shit like AoT and such while ignoring those forty or fifty years of culture and product. Fucking shameful that kids these days don't seem to even understand what an OVA was or why it's the biggest hit the mecha genre and anime in general took with the close of the 90s.

>> No.11813433

>>11813414
Honestly I'd rather have thousands of middle school girl fans than millions of landwhale fans.

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>>11813430
the "cool big brothers" watched this "chinese toon stuff" on TV back in the day and the little bro's want in.
They watch the newer stuff and tell their friends.
One thing leads to another and this horrible thing called "otaku pride" is born.
Maybe I should do a research paper on this.
>>11813433
tough choice but I think I would also go with the middle school girls. Less chance of breaking your spine if they ever choose to "glomp" you.

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>>11813443
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>> No.11813449

>>11813403
Was he a teenager?

>> No.11813457

>>11813449

No he's actually like 23. He's actually a very good looking and fit individual.

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>>11813446
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>>11813449
retarded weeabo's are always teenagers. I have never run into a weeabo over the age of 16.

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>>11813458
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>>11813457
>23
>fit
>acting like a weeabo
holy shit

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>>11813460
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>> No.11813464

I hope you're saging while you dump imagedumper-san.

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>>11813463
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>>11813464
sometimes forget to set it to sage but most of the posts are.

>> No.11813469

>>11813430
God fucking damn it, you ssound like a senile old man. You were no better when you were a kid.
Even in anime there are tons of shit I simply don't give a fuck about. It's about fun, not about oldfaggotry circlejerk or feeling superiour for being a megaweeb. Without these casuals anime would've been long dead

>> No.11813470

>>11813460
>A teenager with aspergers syndrome

Holy shit.

>>11813443
Does this mean we need to sexually abuse our younger siblings to show them the horror(!) that lies down the path that they are treading?

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>>11813470
and people wonder why assburgers automaticly gets equated to retard.

>> No.11813479

>>11813469
But all robot fans are senile old men with a grudge against the young for stealing our airtime away or inserting tits into it where subtle homosexual content once reigned.

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>>11813477
18/192

>> No.11813486

>>11813477
>Im so detached from my baka white background, I wear neko ears to school

I wonder how life's going for him now.

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point of note, weeabo's still give a crap about Justin fucking Bieber.
>>11813486
my best guess is that he's still tasting underpants.

>> No.11813491

>>11813477

>otaco

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>>11813490
20/192
upload complete
https://mega.co.nz/#!FcVzCbJS!X_c5AkEVBpnIpOvondeWjhF_hmRjWgnn7PZtuMvhnYE
should I continue dumping?

>> No.11813499

>>11813479
Speak for yourself.

Go back to /m/, it's a perfect place for you whiners. I bet in the 80's you would have whined about how Gendum destroyed the robot genre.
Time changes things, better deal with it.

>> No.11813514

>>11813498
Eh, if you're fine with that

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>>11813514
21/192
just a bit worried that I'll incur mod wraith or something.
Last post before I hit the sack.

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Nice trolling material you have there.
I'll make use of it.

>> No.11813526

>>11812023
>Almost from fantasy entirely, as most things aren't even wishes for so much as a magical girlfriend/wife, just normal average every day school life, maybe with something making it abnormal for spice. I mean there's still plenty of "we are bound by fate and magic", but how many recent anime have the couple living together and being declared as a couple, whether the guy agrees with it or not? The normalness of anime nowadays is kind of disturbing. It's like it's not used for escapism or imagination, but to reminisce about things that never happened or just fantasize about fugging schoolgirls.
That's what irks me, the incredible fixation on bishoujo and cute/moe and idyllic fantasy school life. Not to say it was nowhere to be found before some 0 year, but great god is it ever so visible.

I find the rooms of 1 and 2 ironically cool in a way because there's more variety of interest and thus personality, while the third is so totally centered upon one thing.

>> No.11813528

>>11813498
Where did humans go so wrong that someone old enough to get pregnant getting pregnant is seen as worse than being addicted to tv shows?

>> No.11813535

>>11813526
My unfounded guess is that otaku of the 70s and 80s were pretty much ordinary salarymen who dreamed of things more exciting than normal life, and modern otaku are disaffected youth.

>>11813528
I know we all want to fuck children, but teenage pregnancy is usually shit for everyone involved. Even more so if the girl in question is like, eleven, and not anywhere near remotely ready to care for a child financially or emotionally.

>> No.11813532

I read this thread and feel amazingly... old.

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anyone this otaku?

>> No.11813569

>>11813535
>financially or emotionally.
So jewish capitalism and mental problems is where humanity went wrong. If other species had a high requirements past just being at puberty, this would be a barren planet.

>> No.11813572

>>11813532


spamming ywuig only seems like yesterday.

>> No.11813575

>>11813569
Back in the good old days girls didn't become fertile until, like, seventeen. If you hyperaccelerated puberty in dogs I'm sure we'd be looking at a lot of dead puppies.

>If other species had a high requirements past just being at puberty, this would be a barren planet.
The old style of reproduction is one where the woman churns out babies and three quarters of the kids die in youth or infancy. Once we got over that, the social model had to change.

>> No.11813588

>>11813575
>hyperaccelerated puberty
No such thing. They went into puberty later because they were starving, not because it's unnatural. Same reason they were short. 13-14 year olds nowadays are physically what their 17 year olds were like at least, they aren't flat chested 5 year olds who who bleed.

>Once we got over that, the social model had to change.
Enjoy your extinction.

>> No.11813594

2000+ to simply enjoy otaku media due to accessibility.

70-80s for the term and involvement to actually mean something due to inaccessibility.

That said, I think modern otaku culture is more contrived than ever, and while it's easier to posture as an "otaku" (i.e. niwaka), it's harder to fully comprehend the visual language in otaku work because of the history of the mediums and the signs that have developed over time. We can see this with some older generations of otaku expressing an estrangement with modern otaku culture.

>> No.11813598

>>11813588
Scarcity was the normal state of affairs to which humans were evolutionarily adapted.

>13-14 year olds nowadays are physically what their 17 year olds were like at least.
It is extremely doubtful that seventeen year old men back then look like thirteen year old boys today.

>Enjoy your extinction.
You're coming with me.

>> No.11813640

>>11813598
>Scarcity was the normal state of affairs to which humans were evolutionarily adapted.

Not since they invented farming.

>> No.11813697

>>11813640
>Not since they invented farming.
Just think about this long and hard, then realize how big bag of a bullshit you have just said.

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>>11813518
continuing dump
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>>11813528
weeabo's lack a logic lobe.

>> No.11814370

>>11814367
it's 'weeaboo' nerd

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>> No.11814584

>>11812063

Yes there is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzEnenrQLIQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5lBF4Tn95k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoNlNsjAnpo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruQbvIAKHds

>> No.11814595

>>11814492
Can you stop? This is pretty retarded.

>> No.11814596

>>11814492
Please take this shit to /v/

>> No.11814628

Modern anime fandom is way too perverted. Sex is gross and people should keep that to themselves instead of flaunting it around everywhere. /rant

>> No.11814634

>>11814628
Modern anime fandom is fucking retarded. It's all gaia kiddies now that roleplay on IOSYS videos. You won't meet anyone younger than 15 that knows about basic stuff like directors and writers and shit.

>> No.11814639

>>11814634
I wouldn't even know what the studios were if people didn't complain all the time about them. I just watch the shows.

>> No.11814674

How did people learn Japanese before Anki

>> No.11814680

>>11814674
College.

>> No.11814679

>>11814634
>You won't meet anyone younger than 15 that knows about basic stuff like directors and writers and shit.
They don't even know the studios making that shit.

>> No.11814682

This thread is one hell of a circle jerk.

>> No.11814683

>>11814679
>They don't even know the studios making that shit
H-How?

>> No.11814686

80s babby
I grew up on doraemon and supah robot, my diet now consists of SoL with cute girls.
what went wrong?

>> No.11814690

>>11814686
Nobody makes mecha except for Sunrise.

>> No.11814705

>>11814674
Textbooks.

>> No.11814710

>>11814683
Because the credits are in Japanese and nobody watches them.

>> No.11814714

>>11814710
But you can figure that stuff out just by going to the wikipedia or ANN, or whatever for that show.

>> No.11814717

>>11814686
>what went wrong?
Escapism for a new time. Super Robots alluded to a collective sense of the future, struggle and resulting progress. SoL is more focused on the present, and in it's current form, is not without a defeatism, irony, and cynicism.

>> No.11814720

>>11814714
A lot of people simply don't care, much like how people don't care about who's directing the latest Hollywood blockbuster in the theater. It's just entertainment for them and nothing more.

>> No.11814867

>>11814679
>>11814683
I don't know anyone younger than 15 that actually reads credits. Even the ones already in English. So it would make sense to hear "X" cartoon is from "Y" broadcasting network, since all they care to know is the name of the cartoon and the name of the channel.
I'm pretty sure it's always been that way, for every generation.

>> No.11816037

The best time to be an otaku was when the decade I grew up in. All the others suck because they are different. It's not because I was young, impressionable and being exposed to something for the first time, it's just that the things I like are objectively better than the things you like.

>> No.11816116

>>11814690
And Bones

>> No.11816126

>>11816037
>Typical born-in-the-90s logic

>> No.11816148

The 1900s were the pinnacle of Japanese animation. You won't find anything close to this level of perfection nowadays: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1bUwGkdBrU

>> No.11816195

>>11816116
>>11814690
>>11814717
And the irony is, the only good mecha recently is robot girls Z if you can call it a mecha.

>> No.11816203

>>11814492
Patiently waiting

>> No.11816209

>>11816126
I think this thread demonstrates pretty well that it's hardly exclusive to that decade.

>> No.11816249

>>11812020
>LP's of animu OST's

wait, is this really a thing?

>> No.11816254

>>11812024
I cringed. I cringed hard.

>> No.11816258

I enjoy the 80's for the technical quality it sometimes presented (primarily Anno's works), which still occurred into the 90's but prettymuch petered out by the turn of the millennium, in my opinion.
Post-2000 has HD video going for it, a broader horizon of storytelling, and the upsurge in doujin software. The MMO surge means nothing to me, but it's there.
This decade doesn't have a whole bunch for me, but here and there...

>> No.11816307

>>11813362
>remembering my old myspace profile was sort of like this
Just kill me now.

>> No.11816321

>>11816254
le cringe army has arrived!

>> No.11816323

>>11812082
It's fromf Hetalia.

>> No.11816341

Is this the dedicated /a/ portal? This thread fucking stinks of subhum/a/n shit.

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>>11816341
yeah i stepped out because it was shitty in here

>> No.11816504

> 【エリカ(④ ^ヮ^)】
> calling other people subhuman
big haha man would lol again

>> No.11816540

>>11816504
Who are you quoting?

>> No.11816635

http://karapaia.livedoor.biz/archives/51675505.html

>> No.11816663

i wish i was a dragon

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>>11816497

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>>11813458
>retarded weeabo's are always teenagers. I have never run into a weeabo over the age of 16.

If that's the case, and they're all just kids (whose numbers whole no sway in Japan), then why devote any energy to hating and laughing at them if they're just tweens and teens going through an awkward phase that they'll surely be ashamed of in a few years?

We've all gone through phases we're not proud of, and I imagine many people here went through a similar animay otako phase with a super kewl myspace layout to go along with it. It's just unfair to attack such easy targets who were unlucky enough to be born in the age where nothing ever goes away.

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>>11816203
some other guy told me to knock it off.
Besides if you really want the entire weeb collection I linked the zip file here.
>>11813498

>> No.11817083

>>11816796
Because it is our right to hate and laugh at them, and soon it will be theirs. Thus is the circle of life.

>> No.11817091

>>11816796
that doesn't mean that we can't hate them.

>> No.11817284

>>11812125
I disagree. girls are drawn much more erotically these days. now you have more details drawn like vagina bones and nipples with more than one shade. I got banned the last time I tried to post the comparison image I made so you'll have to take my word on it.

>> No.11817312

>>11816037
Only the newest anime is the best. Art expires the moment it's viewed and only increases in quality and enjoyability as time progresses for every single person. It totally doesn't waver or anything. Anyone that likes to talk about something I dislike or before my time are just nostalgiafags.

>> No.11817317

>>11817284
post it to a dead thread on /e/ and link to it
thank you

>> No.11817319

>>11817312

>My opinion is absolute and everyone who disagree is a faget

>> No.11817329

>>11817319
I can't even tell who's not capable of reading sarcasm and who's being ironic anymore.

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>>11817317
>>>/e/1657273
here you can see that the nudity in older tv shows wasn't very fappable at all. girls tended to have narrow hips and flat shading. I didn't include it in the image but if you compare tenchi with the newer ova series with his brother the girls are drawn with rounder breasts and wider hips.

you can also see that even though ghost in the shell was a high budget movie kusanagi doesn't really look that much better than girls from crappy late night shows today.

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>>11816249
I don't kniw

>> No.11818300

>>11817442
>Then
>Full nude
>Now
>Half covered up
Yeah totally sexier.

>here you can see that the nudity in older tv shows wasn't very fappable at all.
Oh I see now, you are like 15.

>> No.11818301

>>11818300
You must be looking at the wrong image

>> No.11818308

>>11818301
Ryoko is hotter than every girl in that picture. I think you just have a chubby fetish.

>> No.11818314

>>11816249
I've always wanted the Galaxy Express 999 vinyls.
Leiji Matsumoto stuff usually has their own vinyls.

>> No.11818316

>>11811972
>>11811987
>>11811991
yeah but who are you quoting??

>> No.11818344

>>11818300
Nudity equals more fappable?

>> No.11818371

>>11816249
Yeah. And some older series have some really great music. Hell, I even dig current OPs and EDs, but back then, I felt the BGM in general had better jams.

Some great BGM/OSTs I can think of: Space Battleship Yamato, Urusei Yatsura, Cutie Honey, and Lupin. Some of those have vinyl collector sets and shit.

>> No.11818378

>>11818300
>Yeah totally sexier.
You don't understand the nuances of eroticism. Nudity is nothing. What viewers like is a sense of perversion. Things like ZR, or socks in general, juxtaposing sexual clothes on characters that are otherwise not supposed to be sexual or not sexual in that way, school swimsuits, etc. The clothes leave more to the imagination. It's a more "perfect" eroticism and it's more titillating to almost be there than to actual be there; we can see this with panty shots and voyeuristic camera angles.

>> No.11818387

>>11818378

>What viewers like is a sense of perversion. Things like ZR, or socks in general, juxtaposing sexual clothes on characters that are otherwise not supposed to be sexual or not sexual in that way, school swimsuits, etc. The clothes leave more to the imagination. It's a more "perfect" eroticism and it's more titillating to almost be there than to actual be there; we can see this with panty shots and voyeuristic camera angles.

And older series did this much better with their clothing, which was my initial argument. The guy said they're lewder nowadays and posted a comparison of naked characters. If he was comparing outfits, it'd be different, but they were comparing nudity. Stuff nowadays appears to be more censored by that picture so it defeats a lot of his point.

>> No.11818484

>>11818387
I'm talking about how the bodies are drawn. in old anime the titties were simple half circles with pink dots for nipples, butts and thighs were more narrow, and there's generally wasn't as much detailed shading around things like armpits, navels, and vagina bones. these days it's not uncommon for character design sheets to specify how each girl's nipples should be drawn.

in older shows the nudity was more abour humor or building a scene. you weren't supposed to pause your vhs tape and fap to it, although if it was between that and the sears catalog I'm sure plenty of young jacking off otaku did. these days shots with nudity are focused on the ero with full screen pans or jiggling animation, which is why I didn't use any examples in the image.

>> No.11818570

The best time is now because right now we are all together.
Remember every time a /jp/side dies so does a friend. Please don't consider suicide!

this has been a public service announcement

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>>11818570
do a good deed;
kill a NEET

>> No.11818619

Ahhhhhhh, C85 is a release of mosaics. People are releasing compilations of previous works in which they go back and add mosaics to the previous works.

This is the end. Dead stop. Cranial implosion helmets for everyone.

>> No.11818919

Youll never take your girlfriend to see the premere of Mothra on new years.

Ah, to be a showa otaku

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As a gyaru otaku I'm can't help but feel the 90s or early 2000s were better.

>> No.11818963

>>11818577
>;
Tryhard.

>> No.11820300

>>11818931
10,000 years best girl

>> No.11820643

>>11818619
it's a temporary thing because one company got busted. It'll pass in a bit.

>> No.11823258

>>11813697
hahahaha thank you.

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>>11811978
this poster understands

>> No.11823307

>>11818963
Illiterate.

>> No.11823330

Late 80s - Early 90s
Being into nerdy Japanese shit was a rarity. You had to work to get your fix and the circle was small. Now everyone and their moms is into japanese pop culture or pretend to be and the fanbase is full of retards and degenerates. Fuck you young people. You will never know the pleasure of finding a rare vhs of an anime at a flea market or Asian market or buying an unknown product from Japan to show off to friends.

>> No.11823332

>>11823330
Forgot your pills again, gramps?

>> No.11823335

>>11823330
>You will never know the pleasure of finding a rare vhs of an anime at a flea market or Asian market or buying an unknown product from Japan to show off to friends.
I just rented VHS from a Japanese video store or had people in Japan record/copy them for me.

>> No.11823369

>>11823330
>You will never know the pleasure of finding a rare vhs of an anime at a flea market or Asian market or buying an unknown product from Japan to show off to friends.

Good, now I can watch all the stuff you craved for in a little time, instead of going out.
You're almost like those old men that say "oh man, the great war, good times, you will never know the joy of returning home after x years of suffering"

>> No.11823382

>>11823369
Part of the fun in getting these things is the search, not knowing what you're in for, and discovering something amazing after all that.

>> No.11823407

>>11823330
>show off to friends
Fuck off normie.

>> No.11823458

>>11812016
sauce?
I cant find anything about it myself :(

>> No.11823490

>>11812131
But it's just like you said. You're imagining it.
The reality of the 70s and 80s was much different; there was still the stigmatization of "nerds" but, because of how limited communication was, it was necessary to band with other nerds -- and it was actually possible to find some. I assume by the stabbing you're referring to the "Otaku Murderer" but you should consider the number of arrests also made today where lolicon and anime, video game paraphernalia was involved.
Plus you are aware that the communities where otaku now socialize online are ones that go "aww yeah loli rape" "how do i steal my sister's pantsu without her finding out?" "how do i get past my country's import laws", sites like creepshots for idols.. etc. So there isn't exactly the most ideal environment, especially now that animefans are being more and more shoehorned into being considered pedophiles by the general public (an association that wasn't as common back then).
So yes, while socialization is easier, the topic and culture with which you're socializing is not one which promotes mental health. The socialization by otaku in past decades was not so blatantly illegal.
It's easier to talk pleasantly about those types of things when you don't have to do it face to face.

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>>11823407
>Not having fellow weeaboo tomodachi-tachi
You need to learn the power of friendship.

>> No.11823556

>>11823458
it's from kanye west's stronger

>> No.11823597

>>11823458
>sauce?
>I cant find anything about it myself :(
Sauce on what the video?
Saddest era is this one when people can't recognize iconic anime and the characters from it.

>> No.11823969

>>11823597
ehmmm, yes, sauce on akira
I meant the futanari

>> No.11823984

>>11823969
google image search

>> No.11823993

>>11823984
I have already done that
that and more
still no sauce :(

>> No.11823998

>>11823993
bullshit

>> No.11824018

>>11823998
if you dont trust me try it yourself, it is not there,there are only links to 4chan archives, and even in those archived threads no one asked for sauce, I checked it

>> No.11824032

Reading Genshiken is like living vicariously as an otaku
90s otaku is best

>> No.11824046

>>11824018
I have tried it, I wouldn't have told you to do the same if I wasn't able to do it myself. I even found the artist on pixiv.

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