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I have posted that licence generator in the old upload thread so that people who download the game can find it without trouble.

What type of damage is used for guns? I'm thinking about switching it up a bit with guns.

>>11810336
You might want to post that on the new upload thread also.

This game has so many monsters, yet most of them can't join you.

>>11810575
It's ok, because the truck can join you. Thats all that really matters.

Does the row your characters are in effect their speed? I feel that characters in the back row act faster.

>>11810697
Row affects nothing other than the fact that the back row can't be targeted with melee while the front row is still standing.

This isn't going so well...

>>11810703
Including damage? If so, in that case I'm probably gonna stop using the gun and bow then.
(i just like to make sure of these things.)

>>11810716
My Saya on the back row using a mace often hits as hard as my spear Mamizou on the front row. Fairly certain there are no defensive bonuses or melee penalties for being on the back row.

This going to get a English subb?

>>11810739
Since Devil of Decline still hasn't been translated, I'm gonna go ahead and say no.

The game is pretty easy to figure out and play with zero knowledge of Japanese.

>>11810739
Many things still have the same name so you can check over there if you want to look something up. This at least helps with the most basic stuff.

http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/The_Genius_of_Sappheiros/Gameplay

Just got my first gameover with these TENGA monsters what the fuck are they weak to? They hit so hard, and only seem to be hit by bullets

>>11810739
Why would you need one for this game?


>>11810802
Why would you reply?

>>11810807
Not him, but you know, playing in English would generally be less of a hassle and thus more enjoyable.

>>11810806
Elec

They also don't resist blunt damage

>>11810716

Guns are pretty great to use because all guns have Warrior/Magician slayer.

I really don't understand how the damage works sometimes. I beat the ice boss and most of the fight was a joke since she can't do much once you pull the land towards elec besides healing 700 HP, doing almost no damage with ice attacks or use her big spell, which is also ice and deals no damage. At the end of the fight she suddenly uses a different single target ice attack that somehow with no land deals 700+ damage and i barely win by using 3 last words in the same turn.

>>11810967
It could've been the highest tier single target ice spell, Freezing Prison, which none of the doppels can learn even at end game. That spell pretty much instagibs whoever it hits without resistance and even with it, it'll hurt badly.

Giving a low level boss something like that is pretty bullshit though.

Does this game still have formations? Everyone seems to be using the same thing in all screenshots I've seen so far.

>>11811126
Pretty sure it doesn't.

>>11811126
You can place your characters in a 3-2 or 2-3 order. That's it.

>>11810341
Probably ranged.

Does anyone actually bother with running two weapons on people?

I found it more useful to stick shields on anyone frontlining and staffs on anyone using magic, so I'm not sure if it's worth investing the time in sparking a bunch of alternate weapon skills.

>>11811398
They're useful for generic encounters so your tanks can have two different types of damage, but in boss fights it's better to stick a shield and the weapon the boss is weak to.

Does any monster give full party poison cure?

>>11811398
I have some of my characters carry them for the attributes. Those are older weapons though and i pretty much never attack with them.

Is Alice's skill really bugged or do some attacks have properties to pierce it? Because some characters took way too much damage quite a few times by now with her barrier up. I should not take 200+ damage if the damage is cut down 90%.

There is a monster that is very clearly Guan Yu. It can not drop his weapon for your spear users.

Just beated Botan and I still didn't craft a single armor. Are they worth? Should I keep the materials for the endgame or something?

>>11812511
There's plenty of material in the game, both from chests and drops. At a later point, you can even buy some of the more common and uncommon crafting materials as well.

Go ahead and craft if you need it because the endgame equipment requires rare materials and the dreaded orichalcum/adamantite anyways.

What's a good Alice set?
If I give her to my fast mages they get crippled, same thing for my tanks and the healer.

>>11812570
Personally never used Alice much besides two boss fights, but sub doppels with shield wall and those sorts of quick defense skills have synergy with her well. You can also stick buffs and revive skills in her moveset as well since her damage output is garbage on both ends.

>>11812577
Should I even bother grinding her or can I just run her directly for Hagino?

By the way the 3rd boss in the fire cave ( I think she is called momiji) Is there a good set up against her??? I am really missing a lot of my physicals attacks on her.

Yukari just learned a new last word and it wasn't by attacking with normal attacks while a last word was charged. I used Yuugi's attack in a random battle and she just learned her new last word and used that instead.

>>11812570
Does Alice even work?
I see no differences when I use her.

Can someone please translate what this buff does exactly? I'm guessing it raises defence against the elements listed there but i'm not sure.

>>11812586

Go full magic on her, with healing and buffs as needed. Physicals are a waste of time.

The game has no sprites for the characters walking north, yet it has cutscenes in which the characters actually walk in that direction. This looks so retarded.

>>11812757
>The game has no sprites for the characters walking north

What

>>11812725
if buffs the amount of cum you can take inside increasing the pleasure 5 fold

>>11812764
The game switches to the more detailed sprites for cutscenes, the same ones that are used in battle. Those can only walk left or right. Characters walking north look like they are walking left yet move north.

>>11812770
Well, due to the detailed graphics they got lazier this time, iirc the map mobs weren't just ghosts in the other games.

>>11812584
If you haven't already beat her already, Hagino is kind of a rough fight as a first major boss. It's possible to beat her at level 12 but you need a ton of physical defense and crush/fire resistance for the front row. Alice isn't too helpful at that fight unless you really need that extra defense, but losing out on a potential damage dealer is crippling since 8k HP is quite a spike up at that point.

>>11812786
Thanks but just beat it, I was overleveled at this points since I did everything I could do in the accessible map. I even forget to remove the gun from Marisa so I had a dead weight for the entire battle.

Does anyone what to do after the ice cave?

>>11812918

Go find Chen. She's in an out-of-the-way area of the game but she's required.

Does this boss resist every type of magic? Someone please post the bestiary entry of that boss.

>>11813263

>>11813283
She's asking for a beating

>>11813286
She has received her beating. I lost 2 times when she had less than 5000HP left because she used that whole party sleep move over and over again. So annoying.

I learned a new last word with Saya!

That's what i thought at least but nothing seems to have changed. She used the new one instead of a normal attack and it looked exactly like the spell she can only cast in boss battles. I thought i might be able to use this outside of boss battles now but i can't select this one, even with a last word charged.

How are you supposed to get past the DRM in the installer? I haven't seen anyone explain it yet

>>11813571
You don't use the installer. Use 7zip to open setup.001 and grab everything in there. Get the licence generator from the upload thread too and use it in the game folder.

>>11813571
>I haven't seen anyone explain it yet
It's really easy, just simple 6 steps
1. Read the OP
2. Find the link to the previous thread
3. Click on it
4. If nothing happens install 4ChanX and repeat step 3
5. Scroll the thread in warosu until you find posts 11798346 and 1799445
6. Do as they say

>>11813604
Old thread has died, care to provide?

How does the twitter application work?
I connect it to my account and?

Can anyone post the deer girl bestiary page?

>>11814185
Also:
>miss
>miss
>miss
>miss

And magic damage does shit, how do I deal with her?

>>11814214
>>11814214
I'm assuming it's this one. I suggest hitting her with magic because her high evasion backed by Wind Shield makes it even more ridiculous.

She's actually vulnerable to silence so you can actually keep that on her and she's stuck using Thunder Break and doing shit damage. She'll counter it with her last word to remove it occasionally though.

>>11814214
Make sure to get the fire monsters in the cave before her. They have some good magic to hurt her. Once you push the land far enough towards fire you'll deal pretty good damage to make her healing useless.

Guys, should I get this game?
I have beaten GoS and just wondering the skill system and combat. Is it more like GoS or DoD?
Japanese isn't required, right?

Color me surprised in the colors of the rainbow, the game actually ran here in my super ancient toaster, obviously pretty slowly, but not slow enough to be unplayable. I'll give it a try after I find enough patience to download the 1.0.5 patch.
The game seems to use a surprisingly low amount of memory, too.

No fun allowed

>>11814489
Just play it. It's more DoD, but it's not exactly the most complicated combat system. Someone translated the base stats and elements here. That alone allows you to do most stuff already.

>>11814540
Thank you my man, this will come in handy.
I'm ready to kill some Mind Flayers now.

So I just DL this game and I have no idea what to do now
Dunno what to do in the installer

>>11814623
>>11813600

I randomly encounter this semi-boss before the poison girl, what do.

I took this game for a spin...and

If your touhou "persona" dies, how do you revive them? Are there no unique attacks, just weapons? Weapon use levels up? There is some sort of limit break...

>>11814540

Guy who made that image here.
Replace "Offensive Buff" and "Defensive Buff" with "Offensive Assist" and "Defensive Assist." Offensive assist is debuffs/status effects (has a purple icon in-battle), defensive assist is buffs and stuff (has an orange icon in battle).

There are gray stone pillars that has "POW" with some sort of point system. Anyone know what it does?

>>11815073
If it's like the giant dude from the cave of fire just spam your strongest attack and bruteforce it. Although the HP and attack are high they're not a huge treat.

>>11815160

Those restore your Power to full and resurrect all of your dead main Doppels, but it costs some of your points in order to do so. They also serve as warping points.

>>11815082
You revive them with the stone pillars, yeah, it's annoying.

After the beginning you start requiting mobs that you use a "personas" too. Giving you more attacks/buffs/etc.

Weapons don't level up, you level up your weapon class that's tied to the character, if you change weapon from the same class you'll be able to use the same skills. The only limit to the weapon class is the number of skills you can have at the same time, you can arrange those in the menu.

I googled limit break, there are Last Words, they're unique to each character and go always first. I don't know if there's a special trigger for them but they activate way more often than previous games.

Are there no new characters behind that red door after the desert? I made my way through there by running from almost everything that might be trouble but i can't find any purple distortion.

>>11815247
Pretty sure there's no main dopple characters to get from any red door.

>>11815247
They are there to annoy you with strong encounters.

The truck is fucking huge. It's so big it clips behind your first character.

Didn't they release a soundtrack with this? Has anyone uploaded it? If not, can anyone rip the BGM from the files?

1.06 is out. I've not noticed any changes that would make the game unplayable for us, so I'm gonna go ahead and say it's safe to patch.

At the start of combat, Selecting A goes for fight, What does B, and L+R does?

>>11816071
B is basically just to get a good look at the enemies you are up against.
L+R is for escaping

>>11816071
LR is run away

B clears the screen so that you can fap to the succubus i guess. There is no point in ever pressing B.

That patch downloaded way too fast. This isn't like them.

So if I'm using the Chinese's Hyper Weapon, I should have no trouble applying patches right ?

>>11816132
Yes, just having the fake licence is enough to do anything. I patched the game and it still works.

Wait, is Alice an early game doppel?
I've been thinking I'd get her every time I get to one of those black hole things, but I still don't have her.

>>11816138
SWEET!
Also >>11813600 100% works on Win7. Just grab the fake license generator and run in it the game folder.
Also, I heard that there are 3 secret doppels : Meiling, the Fairy Trio and Kasen. Anyone know how to get them ?

>>11816146
Fairies are with a code.

>>11816146

They're purchase rewards for people who bought the game/OST.

>>11816059

They did, and no one has uploaded the soundtrack yet. That, and no one has been able to rip the game files either. I've been recording every battle theme and dungeon theme as a sort of substitute, but since I'm only up to the Arare fight at the castle, it's heavily incomplete, and it's missing cutscene themes.

In the boss battle against the 3 old bosses, are they still weak to the same stuff from before, including status effects?

>>11816083
I hate you. 1.05 literally takes an hour for me.

>>11813283
...Bio, is that you?

I know this is Nightmare of Rebellion thread, but bear with me.
I was stuck for months in Devil of Decline against Tenshi. I finally beat her today but now I'm stuck against Eirin and Kaguya. What the fuck, they blow me away in a couple turns. At least in Sappheiros you had "hard" defenses, namely Alice, Nitori, etc. Here the best I can do is do a practically useless MATK/INT down.

>>11816359
Yeah. DoD a shit. But try to use swords and those slayer strikes, I suppose. They were really hard for me, too, I basically lucked out with last words. As I did with Tenshi.

The game auto-saves, right?

>>11816440
Yeah.

>>11816440
When you transition to a new screen or close the menu, a little message pops up in the bottom left. Thats when it saves.

I never noticed until now, but apparently you have to be online to start the game. Didn't have internet for a few minutes and i could not start the game during that time.

Apparently mobs respawn timer is real-time. SO you can't just make 'em instantly respawn, you have to mess up the computer's clock for that.

>>11816656
Use the recovery pillars and all the monsters respawn.

>>11816359

Can't buff your own stats? Can't land status effects? I dunno, looking at footage on Youtube makes the fight look really easy. Just kill Eirin first and Kaguya falls quite easily.

Granted it's been a long time since I did that fight (like I did that fight in 1.02 or 1.04 or something), but given that the footage I'm looking at is post-expansion, it just sounds like your strategy is extremely flawed. Try more buffs and try status effects. I know Eirin can be poisoned.

The thing on the left is money, but anyone know what [P]'s uses?

>>11816688

Power uses nothing. That's essentially a global MP meter that gets restored via pillars or yin-yang orbs.
On another note, 1.06 came with an omake file that contains a hell of a lot of story information.

>>11815082
Actually, I got this Ice (??) Trident that I'm using on Yukari, and I'm not sure if other spears can get this move, but there seems to be this Ice/Water/Cold/Whatever spell that I'm able to use with it.

>>11816083
Holy crap, maybe it was some typo in the dialogues or minor stuff.

>>11816141
You find her in the blue door near the cave of fire. The one with tanks.

>>11816700
It's not unique to the weapon. You can use it with any spear once learned and you also learn other elemental physical attacks after some time.

Wait, when do we get to use more than 1 Main Doppel ?

>>11816714
After the first blue door having a purple distortion/gap on its map.

>>11816716
No, I meant more Main Doppel Slot.

>>11816718
nwm, I'm a dumbass.

>>11816693
>global MP meter
Strawberry Bose - "If it's not broken, fix it until it is!"

Whats the best weapon class so far? The first dagger I got to hits hard, it seems.

>>11816732

What? I thought you guys liked resource management. Isn't that something you had to do in GoS?

How do you beat the trio in the Ice Cave? I thought you had to defeat them all at the same time, but they just revived instantly. Do you have to kill them multiple times?

>>11816850

Twice per character. Be wary of who you kill last as my experiences with that fight caused one of them to cast Elixir when she was the last one left.

>>11816675
Both can be poisoned. But id isn't worth much if one wide attack from each can wipe out my party.
I guess I'll have to start with grinding a bit. I'm like 10 levels below them.

>>11816852
The one on the bottom can do that. She can even do that if she isn't the last one standing.

>>11816893

Have you tried buffing your defenses?

>>11816904
Of course I have. I'm a seasoned GoS veteran. Buffs in this game seem to be more or less like the ones in most RPGs, though. An absolutely useless 5% increase/decrease if you're lucky. At least poison deals reasonable damage.
Still nothing compared to the second phase of the final boss of Sappheiros, by the way. I remember poisoning it for 4000 damage per turn.

>>11816910

I dunno, for a "seasoned GoS veteran", you're having problems with a fight that got nerfed after they fixed the pre-1.05 exploit people were doing on that fight. Plus you apparently have it hard-grained that you need some sort of fall-back crutch to deal with anything. Just bumrush the shit out of Eirin and Kaguya drops like a fly. Easy. If you can't manage that, then you're definitely not going to be able to do the remaining fights of the game in your current state.

Okay, my capture rate stinks.
Is there any way to improve it? It was pretty decent when I had no sub doppel and now it's below zero.

>>11816935
Make sure the monsters you want can actually join and that you are at least their level. That's all you can do. The capture rate is completely annoying in general. Anything below 3 stars might take forever to get. Even 3 stars often takes too long.

>>11816940

Grinding for 1 stars is hell incarnate.

Can I somehow recycle trash items ?

Finally gave this game a try, it feels completely different from Gos and DoD. This apparent weapon/proficiency management system seems interesting, though, and the weapon combining thing for more slots makes the game more customizable I guess? Although I don't understand exactly how it works. I put that attack+ horn you find in an early chest on a sword, and the numeric value of the attack didn't change. So, does it add a certain percentage to the damage dealt?

>>11816910
Defensive buffs don't affect all that much, you're better off building your resistances to the elements they use and buffing your attacks with whoever has the highest DEX in your party. If you're getting one-shotted by everything they do, try grinding a bit maybe? I replayed DoD recently and I don't recall having trouble taking damage from the lunar duo.

>>11817111
The bonus gets added straight to the characters attack stat when the item is equipped. The attack in the item description never changes. If you have 2 swords of the same type with 1 having atk+, you can see the difference.

>>11816732
Did you even play?
If you play correctly you'll never run out of MP.

This meter punishes you if you spam AoE or other random attacks that aren't even effective while it's actually pretty comfy if you have a strategy.

>>11817140
I know it's going to make me avoid using any POW-consuming skills unless absolutely necessary. Early on, it looks like most weapon skills only use MP (which seem to regen at 1 per turn, although I don't know if it will ever get past 5 without doppel help) so it doesn't look like there's much need to panic yet. I'd be more comfortable with the classic MP system instead of what they used in Touhou Quest, though.

Quick question, what do I enter at this page in the installation process? I have the extra License.dat ready.
Thanks.

>>11817213
You DON"T use the installer. >>11813600

>>11817264
Oh, whoops.
Thank you.

How do I defeat her?

download link?

>>11817864
That's the bullshit tier boss.

I beat her by cycling Alice's -90% damage skill, Akyuu's all magic resistance skill, and using last words to fill in the defense gaps. Akyuu's skill should have roughly 2 turns in between where it's not up, so Alice's skill and a last word can cover the cooldown time.

I didn't have the Manuscript sub dopple to increase magic defense but that should help pad out the damage a bit as well.

>>11817889

I'm not gonna lie. I love how fucking worthless status ailment resistance (the stat, not the specific resistances against various ailments) truly is. 53 resist? Get put to sleep every time!

Thanks Bose. Thanks.

>>11817984
Yeah, no matter how much resist stat the characters have, they tend to get hit by that sleep. The boss only has 35 induction too so it's bullshit.

You can avoid it with Sunflower Fairy's Permanent Barrier skill but it only blocks status effects once and costs a ton. Crap shot all day.

>>11818008
Make that 30 induction, and it's even more bullshit.

>>11818008

It's made even worse because of the fact that she downright spams the damn sleeps. Seriously, why do bosses not have an internal cooldown on their last words. There's a line between difficulty and retardation, and this fight is leaning more on the retardation side of that line.

It's slightly disconcerting when everyone is having problems with the later version of that boss, and meanwhile I'm still having problems with the version you fight in the Dream Castle. Seriously, I've tried using Akyuu's skill, I've tried having resistance up, and defense up, and so on, but I have no idea how to defend against all of that magic other than praying, essentially.

If I'm correct, the second boss theme is Heian Alien + G-Free, whats the first theme made up of though? Still sounds like Heian Alien but with something else.

>>11818335

The first boss theme is completely original, according to the soundtrack listing on SB's page. The second boss theme is just Heian Alien.

Finally beat the trio in the ice cave by killing the healing one first. Together they have almost 120000 HP. You think that's enough? The fight isn't even hard. It just takes forever.

Sorry for posting this: In GoS, How do you start a character quest? Wiki only states the strategy behind the boss. Plus are they repeatable?

Im mixing between GoS, and NoR, I felt I should finish this first.

>>11818496
Theres a bulletin board at the shrine. The ones that reward materials are repeatable.

Also we should probably just end up turning this into a Strawberry Bose games or Touhou Fangames thread in the future.

Just what is this doing? It's a tunic for mages and it has absolutely no stats. It cost 3000+ to make so it has to have something good.

>>11818656
Witchcraft Cape: Equipping it increases magic power. However, it has no defense.

>>11818686
Thanks, i figured it was something like this. I really wish the game would show your magic in some way on the status screen. Most of the magic+ stuff has no indication of doing something.

>>11818717
What an exhibitionist.

>>11818717
The enemy choices are the best thing in the game. You can run into anything.

>>11818737
>truck

man, I thought you guys are joking.

>>11818761

Guys, I forgot how to set Weapon Skills, how do I do it?

>>11818768
GOTYAY

>>11818766
Anyone? Please?

>>11818791
Lowest option on the character screen.

>>11818796
KK, ty.

>>11816710
Are there two doppel points in there?
Because I already got the doppels from that place.

if only if 2hu's can drive them. Problem solved.

Haha, I ended up running right past the checkpoint on the train because it was a grey sprite on a grey background and I wasn't paying very close attention.

I went into Hakusen fight with about half POW and my random-battle setup. No buffs/debuffs, no light spells that could actually pierce her defense, only one character with a heal.

Still won, somehow. Feels pretty good.

I somehow completely missed the blue door that has Futo in it. I just got through it with almost 30 levels of advantage over the enemies in there. Apparently none of the characters in there are required for anything.

I got dunked.
Any way to remove the poison ? And other tips?

>>11819401
NVM, there's sword skill that cause her melee skills to fail. Also Last Words are much more powerful this time around.
And I don't have Murei, only Moth and Kedama.
And I sticked both Kuroneko and Suitcase girl into Reimu lol.

Does this game have anything like DoD in that magic dealt less damage if used by someone wearing heavy armor?
So far I only noticed how certain doppels restrict what armor you can use.

>>11818926
Please help me someone.
I love Alice and it hurts me to think that I missed her!

Is there a list with their translations?
I'm giving my party random ones because I don't know what the hell they do aside from the the HP+30 one

Just seen my first yukkuri, where can I farm them? Any tips? I can't even kill one.

>>11819773
All of them do the same thing they did in the previous Strawberry Bose games. The pendants each raise ATK, DEF and so on by a bit, the rings grant elemental resistance, and the charms give resistance to status effects.

What are the shiba's skills?

>>11819981
Oh God, that's so cute.

How do I beat Cirno?
I can't bruteforce her with her 15k HP.

>>11820207
Cirno is weak against lightning and you need ice resistance.

I'm an idiot.
I just realized I already had Alice, but mistook her for Parsee.

>>11820207
I just cycled through the various magic doppel leaders, and ended on Rumia and spammed that, while everyone else did melee or healing. My lightning spells did jack shit except move the lightning bar higher.

What does this say?
Can't seem to find other ways to progress after the ReimuxMarisa fight

>>11820368
Can't help as I just beat that fight myself, but holy shit that was easy. Yuyuko ended the thing in one round.

>>11820427
Yeah, that boss fight and the next one are still practice mode.
Then bam.

>>11820368
you need to update, and patch it up.

Does the game actually tell you that you are supposed to find Chen? You don't really accomplish much besides that in the pyramid and after it the characters just know about that switch. Did Chen tell them that?

I have been asked to come here to ask for great knowledge and of assistance. How do I acquire the powerful raise dead for Satori?

The evil Super Kadema always resists the control of the mind.

>>11820901
At lvl 90 Reimu learns a barrier skill that when used causes the hairball to cast raise dead on your party instead of his friends half of the time. Use Poison Shield and place Satori in front. Hope the enemy casts it on her. You can't learn it with mind control.

>>11820901
Oh man, this GoS nostalgia I'm suddenly hit with.

>>11820916

I've had the super kedema controlled once and was able to use raise dead on dead satori. Unfortunately he targeted Alice whom was using decoy at the time even though Satori was alive during this time I targeted her.

All my other attempts have been met with failure even though I have done everything to make sure it control should work. Misfire, all down, half resistance, maid, super conductor. even petrify to make sure it does not explode on me.

My thread has been destroyed? Why did that happen? I followed rules as this is not a "GoS" thread.

>>11820931
I guess since you reposted it here it was assumed you abandoned your thread.

GoS is pretty heavy on the luck. Probably just a case of really shitty luck.

>>11820953

I guess it cannot be helped then, If patience is something I require I shall continue. Though super kedema only has 120 resistance, it should not be this hard to control his mind.

>>11820962
Huh. That game had that sort of character too. I can't remember the names, but I recall Bose made them pretty authentic 2hu-like. They do a good job on that.

>>11820901
level 90? fuck, Im at level 45 at magic forest 2 and struggling to gain any level.

>>11820964
>probably just a case of really shitty luck.

I have very good luck I'll have you know friend.

>>11820964
Have you tired using the melon sword or getting the medals?

>>11820972
Im working on it. currently hunting for meteorite (I forgot who drops this). for the medal.

>>11821006

Don't worry about the medals there is only a small chance you'll get them even if your hunting for them. I only got the medals by chance and the crown took three days.

Someone please post the bestairy entry of Ran. Is she weak against nothing?

>>11821074

Chen's not weak to anything, but she is resistant to light and dark. The sphinx hands are weak to fire. The bull/goat head isn't weak to anything but isn't resistant to anything either. The bird head is weak to lightning and pierce, and resistant to light, dark, and slash. The stereotypical Egyptian head is weak to dark, and resistant to fire, lightning, ice, and light. The Greek-like head (the one with the hair tied up in a loop on its head) is weak to fire, ice, and lightning, and doesn't resist anything.

>>11821208
That's nice, but it's not Ran.

>>11821224

Terribly sorry about that, anon. Someone mentioned Chen earlier when I was scrolling down the page and I guess I got fixated on Chen and didn't process Ran.

>>11821264
Okay, thanks.At least they knew that people would spam darkness against her.

I at least like the fact they made Ran a not-gimmick boss in a sea of gimmick boss fights. Just a good old-fashioned beatdown boss. Might just be because it's a boss fight with just one target, since it seems like most of the boss fights in the second half of the game have multiple targets and thus they're all resurrection-based.

>>11821294
The game tricks you into thinking that there are still a lot of bosses left to fight based on the empty slots in your bestiary. Then you run into Chen and her fight counts as 7 entries.

>>11820964
Just play the game normally and cycle your party often. In Weekend, you should be able to be around level 75 at the final pre-expansion boss with no grinding at all.

So when's the patch that makes this fight not a complete cesspool of luck and back-to-back sleep nukes? Seriously, this is retarded. Even with buffing your magic defenses, debuffing her magic attack, buffing your elemental resistances, and buffing your status resistances, as well as coming in equipped with several elemental resistances (especially mystic element) and resistances to sleep, she still tears your party to shreads with relative ease. Absolute bullshit.

>>11821445
I grinded to around level 50 to take her down and use that cycling defensive strategy earlier. Akyuu's elemental resist skill is practically required to be on at all times or they'll get one-shotted or nearly killed. And even then, there's a shitton of RNG sleep to deal with.

The last boss is more of this stuff without the sleeping.

>>11821486

I'm at level 55 and this strategy feels really uh... ineffective. I'm basically doing the same thing except without the Alice (because unless they fixed Alice then I'm pretty sure she's been broken since like the Tenshi fight because every time I use her she seems to do nothing). Akyuu's elemental resist tends to do nothing as the people who survive with it survive without it and the people who don't survive without it don't survive with it either. Manuscript's magic defense buff tends to do nothing either in the above cases. There's not enough magic defense stuff lying around that's actually good, plus you still need sleep resists and elemental resists.

Need to itemize for too much and not enough slots and gear to go around, and even if there were it'd still boil down to RNG hell. Honestly the last boss sounds easier just because of the lack of sleep.

Basically I just want them to either tone down the rape train that she puts out or actually make buffs and debuffs DO things.

>>11821493
Magic defense is a really strong stat. Something like 40 magic defense can cut down a raw 800 damage to around 400. The magic defense buff should cut down that further from 400 to something like 300. Akyuu's buff cuts that down by half afterwards.

Of course, you'd have to switch out your offhand to something that buffs magic defense like Tefla Magic Sword (+15 magic defense) or Marin's Staff (+25 magic defense). There might be problems on the physical end though. It's worth a try I guess.

As for the sleep, pray hard because this shit is luck or get fucked. The whole fight is bullshit.

>>11821538

526 damage from a Zero Kelvin on a character with 72 Magic Defense + Magic Defense buff.

So about that magic defense stat being strong, eh? Granted it was against neutral resistance, but still. That's a LOT of damage to take on a character with that much magic defense.

>>11821614
Yeah, you need to get at least one stage of resistance and have Akyuu's buff up.

>>11821624

It was more about your "40 magic defense can cut a raw 800 to around 400" remark. Unless you mean to tell me that had that Zero Kelvin hit someone with zero magic defense and neutral resistance it'd have done around 2500 damage, which I know is pretty not true given that I've seen that same Zero Kelvin hit someone with far lower magic defense and only do like 900 damage. I don't know exactly what impact the magic defense buff has on the stat (I'd wager it's probably a 1.5x modifier, but that might be a bit generous), but with 72 + buff, I can't help but feel like 526 is a lot of damage to take.

>>11821630
In GoS damage formula (without skill multipliers) was: MATK - MDEF / 2. Elemental resistance was applied after MDEF subtraction. Most likely in NoR it's the same.

>>11821630
I might as well try to run some tests for its effectiveness on large numbers.

Using Marisa hitting Yukari with Cosmic Liner, which is the same tier spell as Disintegrate, Zero Kelvin, etc:

Yukari with 0 magic defense and no resistance took 2800 damage, and 2500 with the magic defense buff.
With 30 magic defense, she took 2400 damage, and 1900 with the buff.
With 75 magic defense, she took 1500 damage (~700 with +1 resist), and 1100 with the buff (570 with +1 resist).

Using the best situation of 75 magic defense, +1 resist, the magic defense buff, and Akyuu's resist spell, it's down to about 280 damage.

There's probably some confusing formula with diminishing returns, but this is just assuming the damage formula is applied the same way for enemies and players.

>>11821653
The weird thing is that there's no magic attack stat.

>>11821657

I don't want to really doubt it, but it still doesn't feel like the kind of "effectiveness" I'd be looking for. 280 damage brings it down to survivable levels, but not to the levels that I wish it'd be at.

Anyways, I managed to beat her somehow. I feel no more confident than I did before in regards to actually beating her. That entire fight is such garbage. The stuff about using off-hand slots to boost magic defense was real useful information though, and I thank you for that. I wouldn't have thought of that.

It's... a beatable fight, but god damn it's by far the most questionable fight in the game, from what I've seen. I seriously hope something happens to it to at least streamline it and not make it such a RNG-driven mess.

>>11821674
I personally thought it was a battle that we were supposed to get floored and wipe out after seeing the ridiculous damage, like that one pre-expansion DoD boss fight at the final tower.

I like to think that SB are a bunch of self-hating emos. I can't think of any other reason why a studio capable of producing GoS would go to such lengths to remove everything that was good about it from all their subsequent games.

>>11821730
I can't really see why everyone loves GoS so much. All the boss fights were gimmicks. You could ruin your entire game by crafting the wrong item or crafting too many items too often. Drop rates were absurdly low. Recipes took too many materials. Satori's learn rates were horrendous.

Sure Weekend relaxed a lot of these problems, but still. Not saying I hated GoS, it was a really good game, but you guys are treating it like some holy grail of RPGs.

>>11821730
My thoughts exactly. My fucking thoughts exactly.

>>11821733
Gimmicks were rare. Most bosses required nuanced strategy.

And I dunno, for myself some of the problems you listed added to its charm.

>>11821730
>>11821733
>>11821734

If we're gonna get on this topic again, the only thing I want to know is why in the world are there people who defend forced party splits, especially in a game where party members not in use don't get EXP, not even a penalized portion of EXP.

>>11821740
You're supposed to use all of them, methinks.

>>11821741

Then there should be some sort of mechanic in play that makes it so bringing people up to speed isn't such a god-awful chore. Also, if you're going to have party splits, at least make it so there's enough playable characters to fill out all the parties.

Like, I don't even know how you properly defend party splits in a game where you don't even get enough characters to fill out the whole party. "It adds strategy!" It does, but that doesn't make it a good design decision. Like shit, Defiant of Shrine Maiden did a fucking ton of things wrong, but at least it got party splits right, partially because levels meant very little as far as team composition went, and because you always had enough people to fill out all required parties.

>>11821758
I think it boils down to a matter of opinion, honestly.

>>11821758
>Then there should be some sort of mechanic in play that makes it so bringing people up to speed isn't such a god-awful chore.
Actually, that was never a problem at all. Except for the second stage, you only get one character at a time - and you have exactly one spot in your party where characters are completely safe.
And I don't see the problem with your other point either, the routes in stage 18 were even more specific for certain roles than they were in stage 9.

>>11821790

>Actually, that was never a problem at all. Except for the second stage, you only get one character at a time - and you have exactly one spot in your party where characters are completely safe.

It's under the assumption that you're going to actually drop that person into your party so they get experience. What if I'm very content with my trash mob killing party and don't want to mess with it at all? What then?

>And I don't see the problem with your other point either, the routes in stage 18 were even more specific for certain roles than they were in stage 9.

You missed the whole point. You're given a grand total of twelve characters and a total of 18 slots. You can't even fill up three parties with 12 characters.

>>11821797
Do you have to? You can have three four-person parties or even one each of three-, four,- and five-person parties like I did.

>>11821805

It turns the game from being "How can I use every party member slot to its maximum potential?" to "How can I make a barebones party that's somehow still functional so other parties have more tools to work with?", and I don't feel like that makes for good design, that's all.

>>11821807
I actually liked exactly that.

>Urien

>>11821892
Seth, by Poongko

And then I go into a blue door only to find out that Akari went crazy and befriended millions of Taokakas. After surviving one fight she gives me a Mage Masher and after that the Taos keep murdering me.

>>11821892
Become a part of me

When do I get more synthesis recipes? I'm in desperate need of more armor. Don't tell me all you have are those you gt at the beginning and the only way to get more defense is by slotting your weapons.
Currently at that recovery stone pillar partway through the wall, the one with the spawncamping ghost that nearly always has a few dragon maids that like to kill everyone.

>>11822185
Do you even know where synthesis menu is?
Just collect stuffs in Velvet Rooms until you find a blue chest that has a green scroll in it.

>>11821892
Can Seth join you?

>>11818717
It's fucking Tanno from Papuwa.

What the fuck.

>>11814523
do they still have mind blast and instant death?

>>11822972
Yes, but it's not as bad as it was in GoS. Instant death almost never seems to work.

>>11822978

It kind of feels like their design is more just to be a nuisance than an actual game over machine now, since it seems like the things that can be encountered alongside a Mindflayer are far more lethal than the Mindflayers themselves.

Queenflayer can go fuck herself though. Seriously, get that Timestop shit out of here.

I'll catch up with you soon /jp/, I still have some unfinished businesses to attend too.

>>11824762
Holy shit Super Aja. Now I get it. I played GoS way before I ever got into JoJo.

In that boss fight against the green tanuki and her frosty friend, can both of them revive each other? Fuck every boss fight like this.

Breaking News : If you dual wield weapons, the off-hand's enchantments apply to your main weapon too.

Is it normal that I'm having trouble learning new skills? Marisa's Pierce Level is at 15 (using spear) and only learned 1 skill so far compated to Mamizou, 2 level difference and has 8 learned...what the hell?

>>11825410
It seems to be completely random. I had Reimu and Saya use swords for a while and they learned completely different moves. Reimu also has 3 last words by now and Marisa only has 1.

1.0.7 is up btw.

DO NOT UPDATE TO 1.0.7.
I REPEAT< DO NOT UPDATE.
THE CHINESE HYPER WEAPON HAS FAILED

>>11825665
What happens if you try to run 1.07?

>>11825685
The Serial fucking bopped.
You won't be able to play the game like when it gave you the random errors.

>>11825665
I'm curious to see how quickly this gets cracked. Kinda wish they'd focus on making a good game and make it easily obtainable instead of investing energy into this DRM back-and-forth nonsense.

>>11825697
How can they invalidate keygen'd serials? If it was an accurate keygen they wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Maybe they just fucked up the patch and now everyone can't play.

>>11825716
I'm hoping it's that. If they somehow changed the way serials work, all the people who have a legit one would be fucked too.

btw here is how it looks if you try to run it. That's all you get.

>>11825770
Were you running it from 1.0.6 or 1.0.7?

>>11825786
That's what happens if i try to run 1.07. I can still play the copy with 1.06 just fine.

Just to be clear: Yes, it does run on every version that isn't 1.0.7. 100%

How do I revert it back? ;_;

>>11825928
For the time being grab the original again and patch up to 1.0.6. Also be more careful.

>>11824762
And I'm still a long way to go ;_;

1.07 works fine. Delete the old license file before updating. Update without the license to 1.07 and generate a new license. Wait until the information shows up when you open the game, and then click start game. Hope this helps others as well.

>>11826571

My experiences with trying this has shown this isn't correct. My guess though is it works on a case-by-case, so, as always, make a copy of your folder before attempting to patch it up.

For some reason, i can run 1.06 without a licence. I made a copy of the game to try out >>11826571 and decided to see what happes if you run it after deleting your licence. It seems to work just fine without. It shouldn't even start. Does the game check the licence in the old folder somehow? If i try to run 1.07 without a licence it doesn't work anymore. Making a licence after patching and trying to run it, just results in >>11825770 again.

You can befriend Nanoha in this game, but for someone who likes to make friends, she has a pretty low join rate.

>>11827387

She's worth getting though, as the only subdoppel with Damage Net.

>>11827387
From the look of that sprite, her panties are in full view to the party.

>>11827416
At least she's wearing a skirt unlike that low level mage.

>>11827407
I'm trying to get everything that can join anyway.

What is better: 25 more PDEF or only taking 75% damage because of resistance

An old armor gives you resistance but the new one has so much more defence. How strong is additional defence?

>>11827495
Can't you do math? That's half the fun of getting new gear.

Okay, I'm kinda lost as to what to do for the Hakusen and Arare fight (green tanuki and snow girl for those who don't know names). I mean, if I focus on Hakusen, Arare just resurrects her next turn, and Arare is nearly impossible to damage because she's not only in the back row, but freaking covers her Electric weakness more often than she did in her earlier fight.

>>11827517
How can i do any math if i don't know how the game calculates damage? Do you just know that by looking at the numbers and then coming up with some formula yourself?

>>11827577
Pretty much yeah, if it's too hard just try out the equipment noticing any differences in performance. Most people have the numbers down already.

>>11827588
Then please give the complete formulae for how the game calculates physical damage/defence and magical damage/defence if you just know them. Resistance too please.

>>11827627
Hold on let me see if I can find them. You could take this time to experiment with them.

>>11827648
Anyone can just look at numbers. I want to know how exactly they work. Because resistance for once seems to never work and even characters with 50+ just get put to sleep like it's nothing.

>>11827665
Resistance without an item or buff means nothing most of the time.

>>11827678
Yea, but why? What is the game doing? Is this like EVA in Touhou Labyrinth and that stat just doesn't work? How come a super effective elemental spell deals 0 damage and the next stronger version suddenly deals 3000+? You don't deal 0 damage in Pokemon with Bubble Beam only to kill the enemy with 1 Surf.

>>11827518
I had three front people focus on Hakusen for the non ranged weapons and two with ranged weapons focus on Arare. No need to cover weaknesses. Though, make sure you do have double o resistance to dark and ice on some characters, along with minotaur and blub so you can use that to nullify dark damage. Beware though, Hakusen also has an elixir on her. So the trick is to kill both of them almost at the same time. That's my strategy against them. Someone might have one better.

>>11827736

Minotaur and blub? Where are those monsters found, because I haven't to my knowledge met either of them.

>>11825665
Well shit.
I guess this is what happens when I mindlessly believe in the Chinese and patch everything without checking the current game thread first.
Why did you have to get so greedy, Strawberry Bose? Why did you start using DRM? ;_;

>>11827997
It's been a while, but I think the Minotaurus is found at the train station while Blub is found wandering at the beginning area outside.

Anyone know where to find number four and seventeen on this list?

>>11828263
Though, I guess her name would be Bubble instead. That might of thrown you off there.

>>11828270

#4 can be found at the Great Wall (where you fight Botan), and #17 is a rare encounter at the Pyramid.

>>11828263

Thank you. I've had the Burbur since forever, it's the Minotaur I'm missing.

>>11828282
Ah. I see. I would have never checked the Great Wall. Seventeen must be really rare for me to not run into it.

>>11828286
I wanted to check what it is but as it turns out, i don't have it either. Now i'm curious.

>>11828299

Seventeen? Actually, it's an obelisk.
Also, I assume the Minotaur is a beast-type, right? If so, based on what I do have filled out, he can't be at the Station, or at least I haven't since him there yet.

>>11828315
Unfortunately, he's a squid type

>>11828315
I'm pretty sure I got him from there, but he's one of those rare encounters. He's around the area where you warp inside and out the doors

>>11828315
Finally ran into that obelisk

Marisa just learned her 2nd last word even though she didn't do anything that turn. I told her to wait.

>>11828416
Please explain "warp inside and out the doors"?

>>11828740
It's going in from the second statue when teleporting. You know when you go into a yellow lighted exit, it warps you to another part of the train zone.

>Cirno is vulnerable to Silence

>>11828893
Silence her and you will get a pack of her flying butt, which deal high damage.

Does anyone have a download link? Since I patched to 1.07 without reading the thread I fucked up

I keep getting stuck at this point.
Do I have to do something?

>>11829263

If your .exe is not called "東方玄夢妖譚.exe" at that point, then it won't patch. Rename the .exe to that then try again.

>>11828416

Ah, so the part after where you fight Cirno. Right, I'll give that a shot later.

How the hell do I beat her? Although I managed to finish GoS and DoD (since the second one is easier and has less strategy) since I can't read Japanese I'm being weak as hell against the bosses. What's the appropriate strategy for her?

A 1 Star monster just joined after only 24 kills. I must have temporarily gained maximum luck irl.

/jp/ I am sorry to intrude again but I need more assistance. What am I doing?

>>11830098
It looks like you had a random encounter with a very large dragon and are about to attack it.

>>11830098

...How did you manage to land Control on the Elder Dragon?

>>11830179
It can be controlled, but by a very slim chance.

Besides ruining everyone's day, what is 1.07 actually supposed to fix?

Anyone know of a better place to fight these things than the final red door? Final red door isn't exactly a grindable location for a 1star recruit that's somewhat rare to encounter to begin with.

>>11830397
Sounds like just a thing SB would do.

>>11830397
Tower of Babel middle section has her also. But also a ridiculously rare encounter.

Okay, I basically give up attempting to find the Minotaur. I have only managed to fight it a couple times, I did not recruit it, why the hell is it such a rare encounter. I'll just quietly grind at Tono Castle and pray that perhaps with the slight stat boosts I get I can deal with Arare and Hakusen

>>11830098
I'm assuming you're using Control on the Elder Dragon in order to learn a move from it, but the move can only actually be used if it's Charmed? At least I remember some dickery along those lines in the game.

I got the game and Chinese keygen a while ago but have yet to unpack stuff. How exactly do I go around avoiding 1.07? IIRC their previous game would just update to the newest version immediately, unless I'm thinking of another circle.

>>11830442

It doesn't automatically update. You can get it to update up to 1.06, then cancel when it asks to update to 1.07.

Aww shit, now i'm at that sleep boss too. This is by far the shittiest fight so far. The boss is just gonna sit there, cast multi-target sleep spells twice in the same turn, charge up her big damage spell which also causes sleep while i just sit there and do nothing.

>>11830267
the fact the game wasn't ruining everyone's day

>>11830627
Finally made it. Didn't have such a luck based battle in quite a while.

I like how the game isn't as easy to faceroll anymore, like how Lesser Demons, Powers and Minotaurs in the train station can always one-shot your tank even if you out-level them.

Anyone have a clue what this enhancement does?

>>11831353
Deflect something something.
I guess it adds a small chance to deflect attacks.

Finally got the cow and Power. Now just need Lesser Demon.
sigh...

This will come in handy ...

Where can I enter the code for the fairies?

How do I beat Hakusen?
Which doppel can use magic resistence?

>>11831814
How many kills did it take you to get them?

What's with item drops that have red ?????? Are they supposed to be extra rare?

I'm actually surprised that the final Yukkuri can not join you. That would seem like the stuff they would pull. 1% join rate, a bitch to defeat and never shows up.

>>11832833
How the hell do I defeat yukkuris anyway?

>>11832839
Multi-hit physical skills. They're immune to all magic, have high evade, and either take 1 or 0 damage from attacks.

>>11832839
Have Nanoha use Damage Net at the beginning of the round to prevent them from escaping. After that, just pummel away.

Can some kind soul please translate the description of this sword? My instincts tell me that this is the best sword the game has to offer and i'd love to know if the description mentions any special abilities, like slayer.

Is this guy useful?
I though it was a rare mob to help you for the Tanuki but it's goddamn weak to dark.
What are some good doppels for that fight anyway?

>>11832865
Sword of Kusanagi: When equipped, the character's parameters increase greatly. Also has slayer effects to Dragons, Majins, Giants, and Insects.

Pretty sure that's one of the uniques with the red names in the drop table at the final dungeon.

>>11832892
Thanks

I'm having better luck with rare items than monsters joining.

>>11832886
I'm currently still using this guy in the final dungeon. He learns a strong single target light spell which is usefull almost everywhere and if you equip the demon from the same area, they cancel each other out with their resistance.

>>11832922
Which demon?
You mean the lv.31 dragon thing? Do I really need to grind to lv 31+ to win that tanuki fight? The main problem with me is that I don't know what buff/debuff does what

>>11832929

He means this. Using this and >>11832886 together cancels out both elemental weaknesses. They're both fairly good doppels for that part of the game so using them together on your caster's not a bad idea.

...Knowing who the final boss is, this line from GoS is hilarious in hindsight.

>>11832929
This guy pretty much does the same strategy i did in that fight. Maybe that helps. He's also only lvl 25. I was at 27 when i won and i had much more POW left at the end than he does, so it's not as close as one might think.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22593990

>>11832995
>>11832934
Thanks

>>11832941

Is Lithos or the Gorgon sisters in this game?

>>11833021
Don't believe so, but I will say Strawberry Bose makes some nice looking OC's. They fit right in with the Touhou characters.

Can someone tell me where this enemy is? I seem to have missed it somehow.

>>11833021

Not at all, sadly. I was hoping some of the previous SB OCs would show up considering this game takes place after the others, but then again it might not make sense for them to randomly be in the outside world circa 1912.

>>11833076
It should be found inside the pyramid. A rare encounter.

>>11833574
That fucking pyramid again. That's the second one missing in there. I didn't even avoid enemies.

>>11833593
Oh well, already ran into it.

What does the description of this armor say? It's the most expensive armor i could buy but it doesn't even have the highest defence and effects no other stats.

>>11833722
Dragon Mail: Greatly reduces breath damage.

>>11833722
Greatly reduces the damage of bracelets.

>>11833756
>>11833757
Thanks, i guess that's something at least.

>>11833574
>Ver.1_0_7

tell me your secrets

>>11833875
I have no idea man. It just works for me.

Whoa what the fuck?
I was running around in one of those Door areas and when I ran into an enemy the game just closed itself.
I was doing so well too...

The level cap is 70. That's a pretty random limit. I reached that just by trying to get monsters.

>>11834206
It's like pre-expansion DoD with the same level cap. Although if they do make an expansion for this, I don't know how they'll continue the story with the ending scene after the credits.

>>11834225
Maybe they'll add something semi-unrelated to the plot, like in GoS.

>>11834225
They'll probably make an expansion for this. The north-east area of the map already looks suspiciously empty. That's probably empty for that content.

>>11834253
>GoS expansion
>semi-unrelated

>>11834279
Hahah, yeah.
>abyss X
>abyss demon
>abyss dragon
>abyss
>abyss interior
>super abyss creature

>>11834279
Wasn't it?

Now we just have to wait for the Japanese to stop their fapping and fill the wiki with infomation because we can't fucking min-max without master nihongo degree.

Is there any way to increase the capture rate of monsters?

>>11834648
Nope. Enjoy your frustration.

>>11833939
My wild guess is that the server has a list of registered serial keys to check the license.dat against, and you just happened to win the lottery and generate one that's actually legit.

I wonder if we can get a serial key out of a generated license.dat file. It might get registered during the actual installation, so getting something to put there might solve this problem.

Anyone knows what Keine's skill suppose to do?

>>11835118
If it's anything like it was in DoD, makes you deal more damage and take less damage with/from physical attacks.
And huh, I was expecting to finally give up on this game after reaching the first fight with the three underlings, but they're going surprisingly well so far. Only the deer that likes to use Megastroke for 300+ damage when I can only break 200 HP with Suika or something like that left.

Ah yeah forgot that were on page 9, so I guess someone should make a new thread soon.

>>11835349
You do it then.
We're too lazy.

>>11834279

The expansion final boss comes somewhat from nowhere, but technically it is tied to the main plot (the very word "resentment" comes up multiple times in the main game's dialogue, actually).

>>11835546
New thread up.

>>11834445
Speaking of which, since the thread is dying, I don't feel as guilty asking about what the hell happened at the end there. Like, what the hell did the final boss have to do with all those OCs? What was her scheme, the conclusion etc etc...

>>11836059
Read the thread.
http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15960.0.html
It's Bioshock Infinite with 2hous.
And the new thread never stood a chancewwww.