/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>11808479
Where did Mogami getting a kai2 come from?

>>11808480
>>11808468
Kinugasa +2 as well.

>>11808475
How is that -5?

Next maintenance: Kaga lines and hourly time updates
Maintenance after that: Bep lines

>>11808487

>>11808478
Condense your shit, shitfuckers.

>>11808490
Well, I hope they don't forcefully refresh those figures for you so she still looks strong.

>>11808490
83 is 8 higher than 75 which is what she had before

do you people even cross-check with pre-update tables?

Great thrread and game dude.

>>11808497
Actually if you did check, her maximum firepower buff is only +3

That 83 was probably what they intended to buff her with but decided it'd be too strong maybe.

>>11808495
I hope her nerfing is a bug.

>>11808500
the -5 is people being too stupid to realize what you just said
which is what I was making fun of.

>>11808500
>too strong
Are you sure? We're talking about CAs here.

>>11808511
Is it too late to take that back?

I kind of meant among the CA class but when you take it out of context that way it does look like I'm saying they're strong.

>>11808499
which kanmusu wud fug?

>>11808514
If that's the case, then they should buff all the other CAs even more, not nerf her. Nerfing any CA is taking one step back.

If only ZUN!bar was here...

So is Nakachang's stats good at anything?

I have a question for you, OP. How long does it take you to hit select all and crtl+v when you make these threads? It must be a hell of a task with your fat and stubby fingers.

>>11808528
She is the best CL

LSC weekly quest when?

So trying to craft BB to beat 1-4 got me another CA. I only have 900 steel left, should I try for another BB and waste steel in the process or try my luck in busting through 1-4 with 3 CAs?

>>11808528
Her new stat caps had better be various multiples of 48.

>>11808534
Totally doable

>>11808537
Okay then, time to get out of this hell hole.

So anyone found the sortie quest yet?

Arashio won't appear for me.

>>11808535
Any number is a multiple of 48

>>11808490
Mine says something different

Would it be unwise to have to use 3 CLTs (KTKM, Ooi, Kiso K2) in general sorties?

>>11808543
2-3

>>11808542
They both say -5?

Desdiv 8 comp quest finished.
Rewards are 150 fuels, 150 ammo and 3 dev kit.
2-3 is their battle map.

Another comp quest is for Desdiv 18.
Kasumi, Arare, Kagerou and Shiranui.
It seems you have to go 3-1 with them.

>>11808548
It doesn't matter if they sink while clearing right?

>>11808534
>>11808540
I beat 1-4 with this after a few tries. I have no idea why anybody considers it hard.

>>11808547
And they are both higher than they were before the update, retard

>>11808553
I know that, but it's the same stat change in both pictures and >>11808542 said his says something different, which it doesn't because he didn't remove his weapons.

>>11808551
yes it does. If they sink they are no longer part of the fleet so they don't count as present.

>>11808552
Looks like you have a bit of a fuel problem

>>11808552
It's not exactly hard, it's just that the few times I got to the boss node I got extremely unlucky. When I almost beat it I got disconnected and and other times I wasn't even close to winning. Most of the time I got sent to the wrong node.

How quickly will one get picked in the lottery? Will this lottery thing last forever??

Is there any other browser based qt game I can waste my time with?

>>11808559
Fuck off, you don't deserve to be an admiral.

>>11808548
Getting to the boss with 4 DD's? what a pain in the ass. I'll have to level up them a bit.

>>11808562
It's actually doable for 2-3 if you use 2 CVs filled with nothing but blues, not so sure of 3-1.

>>11808558
Right as I said that, BSOD at the boss node. Such is life.

>>11808560
no you

Does it make you mad that someone who is willing to play other waifu games will eventually be beating you, and you won't even know it?

Just checked.
Maya base firepower is fucking 83 now.
Just dont do anything that will refresh her firepower.

Just scraped my level 83 maya because of the stupid nerf, I'm just never going to level/use any CAs.

>>11808528
This is with 0 modernizations, so I dunno what her cap looks like, but 68 anti-sub without any equipment is pretty good.

Her new gear is kind of dull though.

Steel node f5 doesn't seem to be working for me

>>11808574
Can't give a ship that's notorious for being common some of the best equipment, no?

>>11808575
cool (fake) story bro
it's not even a nerf, her firepower was increased by 3
joke is on you

>>11808557
I blew away all my new admiral money on equipment crafts because I thought my fleet needed more 12.7cm guns. Back then I was living minute to minute, as soon as I'd regenerate enough refuel a destroyer fleet I'd send them out again.

Somehow we've come a long way since then.

>>11808577
stop doing it

>>11808578
I guess. I hoped for at least some of those S-rare-but-not-that-useful guns like the 8cm high angle guns or the 15.2cm linked guns.

>>11808577
Good, I hope you get banned too.
F5ing should only be used if you advance at red by accident.

What were the December monthly rewards?

Apparently, her caps are:
-70 firepower
-84 torpedo
-72 AA
-68 armor

She's apparently on par with the Agano-class.

>>11808585
Or if the compass sends you the wrong way.

>>11808587
still ugly

>>11808587
That's actually kinda cute. The undamaged sprite is garbage though.

Hahaha.
http://www.nijibox5.com/futabafiles/kobin/src/ss223373.mp4

>>11808579
Choukai 78
Maya 83
Kinugasa 74
Mikuma 75
Mogami 75
Suzuya 75
Kumano 75

Isn't it sad Kinugasa?

>>11808577
Good riddance, I hope you get banned.

>A total of four two types of implementation of 02 ▼ new "mission", "mission organization" × 2 types, "air mission" × [mission] has been added a new implementation.

The fuck is this supposed to be?

>>11808595
It's supposed to be in Japanese.

>>11808595
>air mission

Strike witches collab soon?

>>11808593
Why can't they just make Kinugasa the best CA, it just doesn't make sense that a second kai is so outclassed.

>>11808596
>02▼新「任務」の実装
>「編成任務」×2種類、「出撃任務」×2種類の計4つの【任務】が新たに追加実装されました。

If you so desire, I can't into moon tho.

>>11808600
2 new composition quests and 2 new sortie quests.

>>11808590
Rude

>>11808600
How do you not at least learn the words that are on the damn buttons on the front page.

>>11808600
Learn Japanese.

Since that's hard, install rikai-chan or rikai-kun instead.

>>11808599
She is cheap and cute

>>11808604
Those are like viking runes or some shit to me. The best I usually do is compare my ship names to the runes posted in the tweets, it doesn't usually occur to me that checking out menu buttons might be worth.

>>11808599
The K2 is just more of an art update rather than a stat upgrade.

>>11808611
It's generally good form to at least put a minimal effort into learning what you're doing.

>>11808612
It's not like I don't know the game itself, I've been playing for over like what, 5 or 6 months now, it's just that I've never bothered learning Japanese, whether it was used in the game or not.

>>11808610
Shiratsuyu and Murasame just had their regular Kai arts updated, why not just do that?

>>11808617
Kinugasa is not exactly bad.
Her stats are just 1 or 2 points less than the Takao and her consumption is so much lower. She is much better than Aoba,

>>11808600
I only see one composition quest, what's the other one?

Kancolle Assorted Guides
http://imgur.com/a/7HZO7/all

If anyone can find updated charts, guides, etc, please inform.

>>11808626
48 naka chans

「摩耶改」の初期火力の上方修正値が間違っていました。申し訳ありません。この後、オンメンテで修正致します。 現在の更新内容：火力初期値【40】→【48】 正しい更新内容：火力初期値【40】→【43】 「摩耶改」は防空巡仕様なので、上記が正しい仕様です…申し訳ありません。

>>11808631
So Maya's firepower buff is bugged to give more atm?

>>11808631
Looks like I was right, just a revised buff.

>>11808634
>>11808635
So people who have the super powered Maya get to keep it? Or will it be quick fixed?

>>11808636
>>11808634
>>11808626
When did this thread get filled with retards?

>>11808636
They'll fix it eventually during an online maintenance.

>>11808566
>shockwave crash right as I'm about to beat boss.
Holy fucking shit, this can't be a coincidence. It's like I'm not meant to pass 1-4. Sorry for blogging but I just... fuck.

>>11808637
A few months ago.

>>11808639

Doesn't the battle continue and automatically calculate provided that you pick a formation?

>>11808643
Don't think it works for the unlocking parts

>>11808637
Shame we had that demographics survey, can't stop thinking about the results.

>>11808626
They're not all unlocked at the same time, complete them one by one.

>>11808631
They should buff all other CAs by +5 in the next maintenance instead.

>>11808643
It will not save your rank unless you actually reach the rank page. Maps won't be unlocked, exp won't be rewarded and ships won't drop until your rank is saved.

>>11808649
But ships will be lost am I right?

>>11808647
Seems like there is no way you can keep super maya since they are doing an online maintenance to fix it. Your Maya firepower will just go poof and decreased without you realizing.

>>11808647
I would honestly like to see that - CAs now are just so... underwhelming. Maya should have slightly less firepower than the rest of Takao class though, she doesn't need to be THAT much better than the rest of them. And Choukai needs a small buff to be on par with Atago/Takao at least, even if she doesn't get to be as great as Maya is statswise.

>>11808650
Yes. Ships will be damaged, fuel and ammo will be used, you might even lose them for nothing in return if you don't reach the rank page.

Fuck, so now I have to sub cheese 3-2 for steel? Great, my CVLs have lost reason to stay in my fleet.

>>11808650
>>11808653
Depends on when you reset. My whole battle resets if I refresh or close the Kancolle window during the torpedo phase, for example (I tend to do that by mistake).

>>11808656
Just be nice on their servers and script expedition 3 for steel like everyone else.

I want to make a Wo disinfo image macro, regarding to those retards who keeps asking about the F5 Steel node abuse.

This would eradicate them.

hey guys, I improved your Yura

>>11808661
Are you scared of getting banned?
F5ing at steel node wont get you banned.
It still works wwww

Guys how is it after all this time we still haven't gotten our December ranking rewards?

I'm gonna miss f5ing 3-2. I farmed up so much iron.

>>11808663
Hmm... less fish eyes?

>>11808668
see >>11808415

>>11808674
Thanks.

>>11808668
They always delay it to the middle of the month before handing them out. Calm down, approx. 15 more minutes.

>>11808656
Only 3-2 or all maps?

>>11808665
Thanks for the input, I'll make another Wo propagando image variation later.

What happened to those people who only had fog ships left in their fleet when the event ended?

>>11808656
What happened to the steel node? haven't f5ed it in a long time.

>>11808687
F5ing after landing on steel node won't give steel anymore.

>>11808688

It's already been said what happened and people have posted what happened.

>>11808687
It doesn't work anymore, but you can try it and get banned for us.

>>11808690
But you are refreshing after you reach the next node at the formation screen.

>>11808688
How late can you be to the carnival?

>>11808692
>banned
You keep saying this word like it actually happens.

>>11808665

>>11808696
Few months ago my account was banned for constant F5ing at the 2-2 bauxite node, 2-3 fuel node without engaging in battle.

>>11808701
wo pls go

Goddamn, I just got Taihou, Yamato and Taihou in a row. I just want a damn Agano or Akitsumaru already.

>>11808705

There are more subtle ways to brag.

>>11808699

>>11808706
>我單身

Is he trying to tell me something?

>>11808706
>>11808699
Need to post it on futaba to make fun of them.

>>11808708
He is telling us that it's safe to do refreshing and LSC.

>>11808709
those nips won't get any of the jokes though, they don't understand English

>>11808706

I think this is fake. His game window is way too big but yet has such a crisp resolution.

>>11808705
I was doing LCS for Zuikaku because I'm stuck on world three and I've got Taihou twice before I finally got Zuikaku (11 tries total).

Beginners luck I guess, although I really want Shimakaze and she refuses to drop after a lot of 2-4 farming.

>>11808708
>我單身
Google translates to - I'm single.

>>11808708
Single highly content young male enjoying his day playing kancolle.

>>11808708
Yes, he wants you.

>>11808690
How? Do they register the gain only after the sortie ended with completion or withdraw click?

Does anyone have that link for the Air superiority calculator they've been using last thread?

Got a new item as ranking reward.
-2 Evade, +5 Armor.
For middle size ships.
CAs and CLVs can use it at least.

>>11808719
Yes, they fixed the F5 resource abuse.

>>11808725
Based devs.

>>11808724
Something bulge, I can't believe it. An actual equipment that increases armor.

>>11808724
Yeah got it too.

>>11808727
Apparently they're also going to start sending out ban waves to those that abused it over the last two weeks.

>>11808730
>>11808724
What do you get for top 100?

>>11808724
First item to reduce a stat.

>>11808732
Source?

>>11808724
Armor pieces eh, fucking called it. Now all they need to do is to implement large item construction.

>>11808724
20.3cm (gou) and this.
Not worth the resources at all.
Guess I am not going to bother with this month race and save for yamato

>>11808725
Good.

>>11808724
It seems CAs, CAv, CVL and AVLs can use it.

>>11808732
Good thing I abused it 4 months ago to last me forever.

>>11808728
>>11808735
Torpedo bulges, used to protect, well against torpedoes.

>>11808701

Extension armor, whatever that means. That poor fairy's gonna fall off though.

For bigger ships.

>>11808733
ZUNbie helicopter
All shit reward
Maybe top10 got something good.

>>11808746
>>11808747
When are all these getting implemented in the equipment crafting? These faeries are too adorable to not have.

>>11808746
>>11808747
so let me get this straight - it decreases evasion?

wouldn't it be a bad thing? I'd rather my ships have a greater chance of being missed, than taking less damage when they get hit.

What's the reward for top 5?

Ship fattening items.

>>11808747

What is Byakuren doing?

>>11808730
I got the notification that I got it, but when I'm looking through my equipment and stuff I can't find it, do I need to clear cache?

>>11808747
that octopus looks like a pretty rapey octopus to me. that fairy's in a bit of trouble

Fuck this shit. I'm butthurt like crazy about good items being handed to turboneet while dev are just letting normal craft die.
Have they ever announced any intention to add something to the pool ?

>>11808749
inb4 Seiran again for them.

>>11808743
Thank you based Wo-chan. Please make more so we can repel retarded scrubs who will ask this question again.

>>11808756
CA can equip them.
CL cant.

>>11808754
>ZUN invented gradient hair
>Touhou pioneered hair character designs

>>11808762
speaking of retards, I get the feeling that if any of us post these images on the wikia, those morons won't be able to take a joke, complain about "racism", and get us all banned from the wiki.

>>11808764

I've implied neither of those.

Who are you quoting?

>>11808751
Turbine increases evasion, isn't it such a great equipment?

>>11808763
I can't even find it in the scrapping menu. It should be after all the repair fairies right?

When are they going to start handing out event rewards for ranking?

>>11808772
They probably forgot to sort the equipments again, seeing as how Daihatsu, Helicopter and ASW plane are all stuck behind damecons.

Why are the devs not adding anything into the item crafting pool, I'm so jealous of all these top rankers.

Naka changg, you so cute.

>>11808771
at no cost to anything else though. if you don't have anything else to equip, may as well put on turbines.

>>11808772
Yeah after the repair item and ZUNbie planes.

>>11808713
How many weeks did that take you each try

Basic 3500/3500/6000/6000 right?

>>11808752
top 3 / 20.3, mid bulge*2, large bulge.
4-20th / 20.3, mid bulge, large bulge.
21-100 / 20.3, mid bulge, Akitu-copter.
101-500 / 20.3, mid bulge.

>>11808768
Pretty much all of the admins and real contributors of the wiki come from here in the first place. Any retard who'd cry about that in the wiki would quickly be ignored.

>>11808747
I assume this is what you get for top 20?

This actually seems more useful, if it has hidden stats that severely reduce torp damage.

>>11808778
>not adding anything into the item crafting pool
So you're forced to farm them off ships.

>>11808796
What glorious ships gives these bulges?

>>11808778
You trade in resources with grind for these items.
Pretty underwhelming reward. It is not like putting these armor into CA/CAV will make them useful.
Today update is pretty bad man, I need to think of a new fleet to farm steel at 3-2 or 4-2.

3-2 steel fix makes me sad. at least I have more than 200k at hand and don't do LSC

>>11808794

I remember reading somewhere the admin is some facebook fag now because the original admin was inactive or something.

>>11808800

Goya.

You aren't suppose to put 20.3 gous on CL/CLTs right? The whole reduced stats or something.

>>11808801
All subs.

>>11808800
Come to LSC during the next event, stay tuned!

Probably Shinano or missing ships like Oyodo and Sakawa.

>>11808795
Wait what?
Reduce torp damage?
Go try it out at 5-3 cut-in

>>11808800
This ship right here.
*grabs my crotch*

Why did people start working on a wiki that wasn't owned by someone on /jp/ in the first place?

Complete list of CA buffs

航巡　75（+1）
妙高型　76（+1）
衣笠　74（+2）
利根型　76（+2）
高雄愛宕　77（+2）
摩耶鳥海　78（+3）
古鷹型　70（+5）
青葉　72（+6）
最上　75（+6）

http://akankore.doorblog.jp/archives/35683739.html

Seems that retards are starting to get riled up in Wiki. We must call upon our Wo-chan to repel the upcoming stupid inquiries here.

>>11808820
Still not worth it to use any of them

Mogami is a girl.

>>11808832
Even though she has a bulge?

>>11808813
But all my subs are 99 already
Today is a sad where. The day steel and experience died.

>>11808806
Please Respond.

>>11808832
The only reason why Mogami is a holo is because she is the only boy in the class. Suzuya and Kumono are both only gold with better stats and higher rarity.

>>11808840
No proof whatsoever it is implemented.
When would gullible fools stop believing whatever the devs said, they also said your ships can sink with orange damage.

>>11808832
Shit. I knew not trying for ranking rewards would bite me in the ass one day.

Missed opportunity right there.

>>11808839
Even Shioi and Maruyu?

>>11808845
Mogami is holo because she is the best CA.

>>11808845
Mogami's boyish charms earned her enough firepower to be equal to the rest of the CAV class this update.

The bulge would probably give her and Goya some hidden stats as well.

>>11808663
Yura Kai 2 never ;_;

Does she even have a fanbase?

This patch at least made someone happy, grats RJ.

https://twitter.com/dj_kudryavka/status/423396619195670528

>>11808820
Where's Suzuya?

>>11808865
I admit, I laughed.

>>11808867
The first one. Under aviation cruisers

>>11808865
The censor does it.

>>11808864
Well, did Kinugasa have one?

Resource node abuse are fixed. Guess Hotel will have to really wait until I have a large stockpile of steel now.

>>11808865
I wonder who that mysterious ship girl is? If only I could see her face...

So resource will be collected only if the sortie is fully completed?

>>11808899
No, I tried it and it still works, the other guy is just an idiot.

What's a "poi"?

>>11808899
It's still working, are you scared?

>>11808907
One of the two office guard dogs.

>>11808905
>>11808908
Ignore the Wo posters!

>>11808832
And a pretty girl at that

>>11808907
Yuudachi's catchphrase

Ok I am going to use softether to buy dock space.
Is it even possible for my API token to be stolen because of a public VPN in the first place? I am really scared after all the horror stories yesterday.

>>11808918
What exactly does it mean though, thingy or ishy?
It was kinda annoying at first but I'm starting to like it

>>11808916
Teitoku pls. Wo is an ally of justice.

if you dont mind tanking your win ratio, resource abuse still works
take lvl 1 disposable DD, run over resource node, lose battle, scrap her, done

alternatively, scrap all those ships you wont need

>>11808920
Use VPN, do your things, then close VPN and change your DMM password asap.

>>11808924
technically speaking that is actually true.
Wo = US forces and we all know that the US was actually on the side of the good guys back then. so yes, Wo is actually an ally of justice and we are the evil IJN who are helping the Nazis

anyone here monitoring futaba? are the nips flipping their shit over the resource node fix?

Damn I just got my Izusu to Kai2, and now Naka Kai2 comes along and is pretty much better in every way.

>>11808933
except Naka looks retarded while Isuzu at least has boobs and twintails going for her

I never got to the point of spamming 5-2, but I assume the steel node fix is going to make grinding 5-2 a lot harder?

>>11808933
Naka is not better, Isuzu is still king for ASW and AA, at least for a CL.

>>11808936
tastes, Isuzu design looks retarded, wish the artist actually did a decent job at drawing her face/legs.

>>11808939
Finally, this will reduces the pansies.

We should teach them the real terror of war when in terms of logistics and proper resource allocation.

>>11808931
Ctrl + F = "3-2"

Enjoy. No need to thank me.

>>11808931
It has been working only for those outside Japan.
For players in Japan, they fixed it like 6 months ago.
So they won't bother.

>>11808939
Technically the biggest bottleneck for 5-2 grinding was bauxite, and fuel still gets consumed at a faster rate than steel. If anything LSC crafting was the one that took a huge hit with the fix.

>>11808949
that will not explain if they are happy it got fixed or angry.
since you said there is no need to thank you I'll take a dump on your bed instead, thanks

>>11808945
Nothing is more terrifying than languishing in bed for a whole day then waking up to find that all your resource bins are overflowing.

>>11808931
http://may.2chan.net/b/res/239317181.htm

>>11808954
Forgot.

http://may.2chan.net/b/res/239317181.htm

Can anyone tell me where I should go to level ships now? I'm assuming 3-2 without the steel isn't worth the time, I dont have access to world 5 yet.

>>11808963
>I'm assuming 3-2 without the steel isn't worth the time
>to level ships
What

>>11808963
You are retarded.

>>11808967
It's best to ignore him.

>>11808967
Well I was leveling my ships slowly but getting steel while I did it, whats hard to understand about that?

How many of you will now start scrapping all those excess DD from 1-1 instead of just quickly getting rid of them by modernizing them on something random?

>>11808976
why would I do that?

>>11808963
I've exclusively used 4-3 to level my ships.

>>11808963
Fuck off, go back to Wiki.

>>11808979
extra steel. not much, but every bit helps. not like you do much while waiting out subs fatigue anyway

>>11808963
I level for end game at 5-2.
Yamato crafting gotta go after 3-2 fix.
RIP useless hotel, I never wanted you anyway.

>>11808976
I'm already scrapping most of the drops I get anyway.

>>11808979
Steel.

considering you could get perfect S without entering the shelling phase, 3-2-A is still one of the most resource-efficient map for leveling.

>>11808976
scrapping BB equipment is more worthwhile, excess DD can join the Abyss fleet in 3-2-C

>>11808990
that will fuck your win rate horribly though.

>>11808990
Sacrificing DD for mere 100 steel? That's low.

>>11808994
I already sacrifice DDs for sparkling my expedition fleet. You get desensitized after the first week.

>>11808926
Changing your DMM password won't change your API token, which is still accessible to whoever is running the proxy server you're using on VPN. There's no way around it, you just have to hope that no one is going to fuck you over.

So when will Haruna get her Kai-ni?

Am I on the casual server? I literally only do my dailies each day, and yet I'm in the top 300.

>>11809006
Which one and how many points?

>>11808948
Do we know Naka's cap on ASW? She seems to have better torpedo, though, as well as firepower.

>>11808998
The API link is hidden inside DMM game page, though, which needs the login information. I've seen some 'account compromise' cases, so I assume those are caused by someone who steal the login information. Therefore, password change seems to be good preventive measure.

>>11808920
Wasn't it just one guy? He couldve misplaced his api anywhere.

>>11809010
The newest one I think, 174 or 175. I'm in the 261-270 range.

It's not like we're short on steel with sparkled and boated exp35

>>11809016
probably the first month of that server. Rankings get a lot harder after 2-3 months

>>11808926
>Use VPN, do your things, then close VPN and change your DMM password asap
You can't do this if you're Australian. You cannot access any part of the DMM website at all without a VPN if you're in Australia. User settings can only be accessed via VPN.

>>11808993
probably, i haven't tried it though.

>>11809008
hopefully never.
or at least until someone could fix Konishi's design.

>>11809020
assuming you do ex2 and ex5, that leaves 1 slot, so either ex3(steel) ex6(baux) ex9(fuel)
the hourly rate for ex35 is horrid but it basically combines ex3 and 6 somewhat. it does 2CV(L) and 1 CA, which makes the resupply cost higher and the sparkling process more expensive. Have you done the long term turnout math on this? I'm interested in seeing it, thanks.

>>11809011
The proxy server receives any and all information the DMM server would sent to your computer, and vice versa. The proxy server thus has direct access to the API link within the page, someone would only need to look at the basic code a single time to retrieve it. Having your login information is irrelevant considering that the basic way VPN works allows the proxy server access to your data.

In theory, the VPN should be encrypting that data to limit anyone messing around in the proxy server from accessing it, but it's definitely in the realm of possibility that someone could access your API link from there.

>>11809023
really? i'm your northern neighbor and haven't encountered any problem like you described.

>>11809030
>i'm your northern neighbor
There's your problem. From what I've seen so far, it's only a problem for Australians.

>>11809023
You guys should of let them take Darwin when you had the chance.

>>11809032
But then only those fags from Darwin would be able to access DMM, which doesn't help with anything for the rest of Australia. Plus, Darwin is 90% Aboriginal, I doubt the Japs would have wanted it anyway.

>>11809031
Go VPN into America or something.

>>11809035
>>11809036
Oh, I thought we were talking about having to register foreign cards from outside Japan.

Can't you just https everything?

>>11809033
...what?
But that defeats the whole purpose of changing the password from outside VPN?

>>11809033
The purpose of changing your DMM account password whilst not using a VPN is so that you don't compromise your security by doing these things over an untrusted VPN connection.

There wouldn't be any point if people were to do it using a VPN.

>>11809033
>America
Do you trust the NSA to handle your DMM account login details? What if they scrap all of your ship girls?

>>11809029
I'm suspicious it's actually KCV or logbook. Wasn't there an anon 2-3 days ago who was compromised as well? And that anon said he started using logbook recently, before the attack.

>>11809038
IT'S THE PACIFIC WAR ALL OVER AGAIN

>>11809028
You can run long-term averages and in that, short expeditions will win in term of turnover. Assuming that you can resupply them and can bother sparkling them all the time. In my case, I'm much better of with sparkling long expeditions (which lasts for days) and run them whenever they're back. And if I don't have the time to instantly resend them, the impact is not as detrimental.
It all comes the downtime you can afford

>>11809037
You can https anything, but it means nothing.

>>11809023
What about using Google+ instead of a DMM account? Although I guess that won't save your current Kancolle account.

Shit, I went and read the posts in the archive now I'm all spooked. Is it safe to assume since I've had this API for 2 months that my token wont be stolen?

>>11809040
I'm not outright accusing any of the VPN servers of stealing people's API links. I don't think they're doing it. I'm not accusing KCV or sanaechan either. I'm just acknowledging that the possibility exists for either of them to be used in a manner which allows an unwanted third party to gain access to your API, and there's really not much you can do about it aside from not using those services. Changing your password won't really help much since both VPN servers and KCV/sanaechan all have access to your API link. You just have to bite the bullet and accept the possible risk.

>>11809034
I'm sure that in the 50 years Japan would of had Darwin, they would have fibre internet, loli porn and all the good stuff already.

>>11809043
And excuse the fallacies in that post, my lack of sleep is showing

How do people play with VPN again?
The Combat download now! take fucking ages.

>>11809051
Or you could just... you know, check the source for anything suspicious...
https://github.com/Grabacr07/KanColleViewer

>>11809043
I run scripts (inb4 infinite stupid arguments for the 99th time) so I have literally minimum downtime 24/7
I only sparkle expedition 5 out of my 2-5-6 routine. If I do 2-5-9 I sparkle 5 and 9.
sparkling 2 and 6 (lasting 6 and 8 hours respectively) takes too much time. If you send 2 extra ships on each mission you will also need to sparkle them which increases the sparkle run time even further. Even with my maximum autism I can't get myself to endlessly sparkle all those ships.

>>11809056
How do you guys do a sparkle anyway, 1 main and 2-3 sacrificial ships?

>>11809044
I thought https loaded all your content through SSL.

>>11809051
Why the fuck would the sysadmin at Yokohama University ever want to steal your fleet girls?

>>11809060
maruyu + dd

>>11809060
No. I single run them through 1-1 thrice and repair them afterward. They won't be up for expedition runs for another 6 to 10 hours anyway. I have 2 teams for expedition 5 and when I re-sparkle expedition 9 (when I run it) I switch to expedition 6 while I sparkle and repair. I have like 1 D and 10 C in about 300 battles, so thats perfectly acceptable

I've checked the wiki and it appears that the only way I can get a cash only furniture fairy without spending money is by doing quest B-17. Is that so? Lame, but oh well. The only thing I was super interested in was the kotatsu anyway.

>>11809056
I'm tempted to start learning how to script sparkling runs but I figure if I go ahead and do it, I would literally have made a bot to play every part of the game except checking quests.

>>11809066
you only send out expeditions and do 1-1 runs? thats all you ever do in the game? why do you even play?

After about 100 crafts of the miracle plane recipe I have only one single Suisei 12A and multiple Ryuusei and Reppu, is it normal for Susei to be so rare?

>>11809064
What level are you dd's to comfortably live thorugh 3 runs

>>11809068
You can craft every ships in the game now except for rare DD, Hachi and Musashi.

>>11809053
personally, i would download the game data first using API link and then play in VPN

>>11809056
>script
do you use sikuli or AHK?

>>11809058
Why would anyone want to ruin someone's account? Maybe that grad student working IT for the university needs to find something to do during the night hours to keep him from getting too bored. I'm don't think that he is, just that he could if he really wanted to.

>>11809073
I am inclined to think that the nips are nice people.
I dont see why they would actually want to ruin some baka gaijins account that they found on their vpn sessions. Are you a gook?

>>11809074
>baka gaijins
because you're a baka gaijin.

>>11809070
around 30-40 and fully maxed out
same for the CLs I need for exp5 and exp8

>>11809072
AHK. Much easier to make modifications and it's, imo, less likely to cause a ban.

>>11809071
Can your crafted level 1 ships beat an event?

>>11809068
I also have a 2-3 sub script and now obsolete 3-2 steel node script. I've stopped 'playing' after I've gotten all the ships I wanted and leveled my Haruna to 99.

Right now the only thing I personally do is PVP and sparkling. I don't bother with ranking so all that's left for me is to amass resources for the next event.

>>11809073
And maybe one of the Kadokawa developers or someone at your local ISP will completely shit on you for shits and giggles, but it's astoundingly unlikely.

>>11809077
it's your decision to script to that extent. I'm fully content scripting expeditions while I sleep and leave it at that.

>>11809066
You should just make a script to check quests and then another script to load your scripts at the appropriate times.

What's the benefit of playing in VPN, the lag is horrendous almost always

>>11809058
>sysadmin at Yokohama University
Most of the vpns at vpngate are user contributed and user run, stealing your api link is as simple as looking at their logs.

>>11809028
Is daihatsu calculated independently of sparkles? If not, it's 1.8x with 4 daihatsu, which means 61 steel and 72 bauxite per hour for 36 fuel and 38 ammo per hour.

>>11809091
You dont trust University of Tsukuba?
Where is Wo-chan when you need her

>>11809077
How exactly does a sub script work? Are you running solo subs?

>>11809094
making an example out of expedition 6
80 + boats = 96 + great success = 136

>>11809089
Sounds like you need a better VPN.

>>11809091
There's one run by a university. Well, I'm not always so careful, but I figure if someone bothers to go through his log of fifty thousand users to find the one overseas Kancolle player to shit on, I've win the super shit lottery of life.

>>11809099
You're using a paid one?

>>11809098
>96 + great success = 136
Shouldn't it be 144?

I hope that one day they make a physical card game for Kancolle. And maybe ships from other countries will all have art.

>>11809098
Daihatsu bonus is applied the same time as great success. so it's 80 * 1.5 * 1.2 = 144

>>11809103
Nah, I just make sure I look through the list and pick the one with good ping, low amounts of other users, and fast speeds.

>>11809098
Oh so it's 1.7x then. 58 steel and 68 bauxite per hour at the cost of 36 fuel and 38 ammo per hour.

I never calculate anything with boats for three reasons
1) Initial investment is too big
2) you need to field AVs to use them and they cost 3 times as much as a DD
3) For the short expeditions the extra 20% makes barely any difference.

>>11809110
I'm thinking that maybe paid VPN could be better in terms of speed, but then there's the problem with selecting which one is the good one.

Hell, I just want to play DMM games, why must them hate kangaroos. As if our internet isn't crappy already

Bump limit. Time for a new thread?

>>11809111
It's 1.8. 1.2 x 1.6. Not 1.2 + 1.6. So it'd be 61 steel and 72 bauxite per hour.

>>11809120
inb4 rage replies.

>>11809120
Here we go

>>11809120
you can find it here my crossie friend >>>/a/

>>11809120
/jp/ is a very slow board so there's no need for a new thread until this one 404's

>>11809120
Yeah, you should try make a new thread, I'll even delete this one once you do.

>>11809116
All my boats came from my still failing hunt for Taihou so I see them as a consolation prize, though I agree it's pointless to bring them to the short expeditions.

>>11809116
The boats are perfect for Ex35
Combined steel & bauxite at 133/hour with full sparkled & boats.
You also only need to resupply once.

>>11809130
It feels horrible when you get the 4-5% crane to drop but 10-15% taihou just eludes you

>>11809116
We are talking about expedition 35, which requires that you use 2 carriers and lasts for 7 hours. If you sparkle and have 4 daihatsu, it's a highly competitive expedition. I included the cost of sparkling as well. Because 3 runs net you 12 sparkling expeditions and because fast expeditions need resupplies much more often, it evens out in the end.

Of course, this doesn't take into account the potential resources wasted getting 4 daihatsu.

On the topic of expeditions, is it worth it to clear up to 36 or should I just keep farming 2/5/6

>>11809148
See
>>11809135
and
>>11809134

>>11809130
>>11809134
>>11809135
If you have the boats anyway, yes, ex35 is a good alternative. But for those people that either got Taihou first or don't do LSC, it's not that good.

>>11809135
hourly rate without sparkle is 38/40
with sparkle is 51/60
(I don't bother to count with boats because I don't have any and won't have any for a long time)
ex3 has a hourly rate of 120 steel (+ammo/fuel) without sparkle and ex6 has 120 bauxite per hour (without sparkle)
sparkled, ex35 would give 360/420 over 7 hours
in those 7 hours you could do 12x ex3(3 hours) (360 steel + ammo / fuel leftovers ) and 6x ex6 (4 hours) (480 baux)

I'm seriously too lazy to do the long term math on this including resupply (3 subs + 1 DD for ex6, 3 SS for ex3 ) and sparkle runs but I assume that ex35 does not beat out the short term expeditions if you have no actual downtime.

The main reason I prefer ex6 over ex35, at this time, is that it gives me more furniture boxes. Gotta buy those 20-40k coin furniture pieces.
Ex35 is definitely a decent alternative though. I might put together a team for it at some point. 2 CV, 1 CL, 1 DD 2 SS is still pricy though.
do AVs count as CV for the ex35 requirement? Otherwise the most economic choice would be Houshou + Shouhou/Zuihou/RJ

>>11809148
I say clear them mostly because they will add new expeditions eventually, most likely support expeditions for world 6 and who knows if we will need them


This post has gotten so long that I lost track of what I said when so any fallacies can go and burn.

>>11809150
forgot something:
ex35 gives an extra dev material with 100% if six sparkled ships run it, which adds up to 3 point X dev mats extra per day which is something

>>11809150
I pretty much use ex35 for when I'm away for long periods of time (school or sleep) and I think that's pretty much its best use. Short expeditions are better hourly rate, long ones give more if you have downtime.

>>11809150
2av1ca1dd2ss
just for your information it is CA

>>11809150
>in those 7 hours you could do 12x ex3(3 hours) (360 steel + ammo / fuel leftovers ) and 6x ex6 (4 hours) (480 baux)
You forget that not everyone can play constantly and/or is willing to use scripts

>>11809161
I didn't forget. I ignored it. I am doing these calculations for me and both of your points do not apply to me, therefore I ignored that possibility.

>>11809159
Long post is too long for me to remember things correctly, thanks. Funnily enough, without boats, Houshou + AV is still cheaper.

>>11809156
with the realization that I would get +3 devkits a day, ex35 is looking more lucrative now. But not enough to win me over yet.

>>11809171
You can put the boats on an AV anyway.

How many buckets do I need to be considered prepared for the next event?

Don't use figures from E-6 or E-7 please.

>>11809180
if you have boats. I have none. So I don't think about what-if

>>11809185
I have 1400 and still run expedition 2 all day every day. I won't feel comfortable under 2000.

>>11809185
900+

If not then don't even think of doing it.

>>11809185
I'm still new so I'm not 100% sure, but people in these threads have mentioned at least 300-500.

>>11809185
150-200 for each map.

>>11809187
More like you script exp2.
Not that I care but that bothered me a bit for some reason

>>11809192
I play roughly 14 hours a day and script the 10 hours I sleep so by majority count, I run.

>>11809196
What the fuck do you do for living?

>>11809197
Not all of us are retarded wage slaves.

>>11809197
Author. when I say "play" I really mean "do sparkle runs (manually), resupply ships(manually), send expeditions (manually) and do daily quests until I finished them all and then just do the stuff I mentioned(manually)"
That leaves me, of those 14 hours I 'play' about 8 hours to actually write. So essentially I do 'work' like a regular person. At home. At my PC. Undisturbed.
I'm also quite poor but I wouldn't trade my job for any other.

>>11809197
This is /jp/ you're talking to.

>>11809189
>>11809188
>>11809187
Oh god, what the fuck? The resource discussion was enough to make me think there's no point caring about this event, but these bucket counts?
What's your daily bucket income like? Do you just sortie the bare minimum for quests? No levelling or hunting for new drops?

>>11809150
Correct me if my math is wrong.

240 steel and 280 baux for 7h
x 1.8 = 432 steel and 504 baux
/7 = 61 steel and 72 baux per 1h assuming all runs are great success

Expedition itself costs 8 bars of fuel and ammo. 1 sparkle run costs 4 bars of fuel ammo. 3 sparkle runs cost 12 bars. Since 3 runs give 12 sparkled expeditions, that is 1 extra bar per ship per expedition to keep them sparkled. So in total, that would be 9 bars of fuel and ammo per ship.

1. Mutsuki-class - 1.5/1.5 per 2 bars = 13.5/13.5
2. Furutaka/Aobo-class - 7/10 per 2 bars = 31.5/35
3. Chitose-class - 7/7 per 2 bars = 31.5/31.5
4. Same as 3.
5. Maruyu - 2/1 per 2 bars = 9/4.5
6. Any SS other than Maruyu - 2/4 per 2 bars = /18

= 126 fuel/134 ammo per expedition

= 18 fuel/19 ammo per hour

By the way, this only takes up 1 fleet, so you can't compare it with what you can do with 2.

>>11809214
There is no need to be scared.
200 is enough.
Do you even have the resources to do 1000instant repair?

I'm at 3-2a farming currently, is there a point to press on now or should I just take it easy there

>>11809214
>No levelling
You don't really need to use buckets while leveling at some resource effective places.

For 5-1, if I don't really have any decent levelled CA, should I actually level some, or just let RNG take me to the boss node?

>>11809225
If you want steel go to 4-2
3-2 is old and busted now

>>11809214
20 buckets a day is the NEET average. You're under no obligation to use buckets whenever you repair ships, so learn to rotate fleets and just wait it out.

>>11809225
You don't need steel from 3-2-A unless you LSC. Expedition 2 gives a lot of steel anyway.

>>11809236
I do want to LSC like 1-2 times a week at least

>>11809239
Go to 4-2 with subs to be "resource efficient", you can clear your weekly as well.

>>11809214
Seriously, you think that they are kind enough to give us again a scrub-tier event maps?

Expect more unfair bullshit mechanics and much worse than E-4 PTSD inducing map.

Damn it, my PTSD is coming back again.

But I won't let my stupidity run again. This time I'm maxing my main and secondary fleet to 99 and become a turboJew when it comes to resources.

I won't repeat the same tragedy I did before. Sending those helpless DD as a meatshield in order for me to kill Henderson.

>>11809243
The purple bulge can cockblock those torpedo cut-in.
It is going to be a piece of cake now if they pull night battle again.

>>11809215
Less repair costs you're also making 5-10 steel from scrap DD/CL each sparkle run. Sparkling to 74/75 is only 2 runs but lasts for 9 expeditions.

Expedition 6 is much better; sparkles or not. If you're having steel troubles, scrap every ship you find. If you need to remodel save yourself some delicious Tone/Chikuma.

>>11809214
I make like 20 buckets a day.

>>11809215
In the earlier example I split the 7 hours of expedition 35 into 3 hours and 4 hours for expedition 3 and 6.
The final rundown of resources is not as high as expected.
seriously considering switching now but I don't have Maruyu or any boats. I don't use Mutsukis either but normal DDs aren't /that/ much more expensive

>>11809246
>The purple bulge can cockblock those torpedo cut-in.
Is that a confirmed hidden stat?

>>11809246
That would be really unfair since only 500 user per server can get that.

Anyway I don't think Midway would be a night battle map.

Now that we're talking about expeditions, what are the best expeditions to run when you're playing?
2, 4 and 17? Or is there something else?

>>11809260
2-5-6

>>11809259
You will never know, night battle map with forced 2/3CV composition and a day battle end node.

>>11809260
I run 2 for buckets, 3 for steel, 5 for fuel.

>>11809262
>night battle map with forced 2/3CV composition and a day battle end node

Fuck.

>>11809259
Historically did the action happen at night or during the day?

>>11809268
Early morning with Tone fucking up her scouting planes.
Expect the devs to force you have 100+ LOS to get to the boss.

>>11809270
Kaga's got this.

>>11809270
not that hard with carriers, i do expect at least 1 CAV or float plane capable ship being required for compass manipulation along with 3-4 carriers.

>>11809259
Nothing unfair about people who made an effort getting little more leverage.

Besides, one of the most useful assets is now readily available for everyone at the LSC.

>>11809278
That's probably why she sank in real life.

>>11809268
During the closing stages of the battle, the USN submarine, USS Tambor was stalking unknown ships which turns out to be the IJN but it held its fire for fear it could be friendlies. The IJN sighted the sub and started evasive maneuvers which ended with Mogami and Chikuma colliding. The next day, USN carrier planes found the damaged Chikuma and Mogami, sinking Chikuma and severely damaging Mogami.

>>11809286
Forgot to add, the sub action took place at night.

>>11809286
Can someone explain to me how collisions were so common?

>>11809286
Pfffft, dem nips.

>>11809291
You mean you dont want to ram it in your favorite ship?
Those sailors tried but sadly failed.

>>11809297
Why would anyone want to ram a boy?

>>11809297
But Mogami is a boy.

>>11809299
this is /jp/
we have as many gay people as /a/

>>11809299
Gaylords, people into shota, people into traps.
There's plenty of people into that

>>11809299
No you got it wrong, Mogami was the one doing the ramming here.
He couldnt take it any more and did her so hard she ended up sinking.

I just hope the 'marriage' system (can we please get a new name for this? Like limiter system, since it really isn't marriage like they said in that interview) comes before Midway

>>11809317
Marriage (temp)

>>11809319
Too long! And that doesn't even change anything!

According to Futaba you don't need S rank for 3-1 with Kagerou and company.

>>11809317
Name this!

*whips out*

>>11809340
They just want a victory, you never had to S rank anything. Clearing that quest gives another damecon.

>>11809353
You guys beat 2-3 and 3-1 already?
So fast?
My lvl1 Arashio just got 1shotted y the CL at 2-3 first node. Seems like I need to throw them at 5-1 to get them kai.

>>11809363
Not them but my Asashio class are on expedition duties. Now they are 20+, good enough for remodeling.

>>11809363
I didn't modernise or level them at all. All I did was throw them in the fleet and headed straight for the map aiming for A/B rank.

Just equip like one Reppu on each of your carriers and Ryuusei Kai the rest.

>>11809363
How do you level DDs at 5-1?

>>11809371
By sending a fleet full of DD and only ASW equipment. Compass has 75% chance sending you South and 25% SouthEast.

Go South, tank the maelstrom, kill the subs, leave.

>>11809372
Doesn't 4-3 give the same exp, but has like 2 sub nodes in a row, as well as chance for baux?

>>11809372
Does this work with other anti sub ships? CLs, etc.

Alright guys, give it to me straight, I have 19k steel. If I run exp 2 every day ~16 times daily and do quests including sortie ones from now until midway what are the chances I have enough steel to repair my ships until I complete the event?

>>11809376
in 4-3 compass can troll you and send your fleet to a CA/CL elite node, not easy to s rank without any ship in the orange/red, and if you depart with more than 1 DD you'll go north to an elite BB node, not easy to clear with lots of lightweight ships in asw gear.

>>11809382
Do the math yourself you lazy fag. And we don't even know when the even would start anyway so just stockpile as much as you can for the meantime.

>>11809382
If you never do LSC, you should be fine.

>>11809385
Its actually easy to S rank with good planes.
I was having trouble with it but I started S-ranking it after adding two CLTs, a BB and Shoukaku filled with Ryuusei/Ryuusei kai

>>11809291
Less friction on water and sometimes due to really retarded admirals such as HMS Victoria. Others are probably cursed such as the Australian carrier HMAS Melbourne.

>>11809376
You have to field out other ships for 4-3 so you have higher overall resource consumption and it's not entirely repair friendly. Ideal for powerleveling one or two DD/CL along with other ships but not an entire fleet of only DD/CL.

>>11809377
Yes, you can even designate the MVP to go to your flagship as well by intentionally equipping your 3 best ASW onto your flagship while only 2 on the others. Gives your MVP+Flagship 1k exp from A/B rank and 1.2k from S ranks.

Those subs rarely ever hit you when both teams are in line abreast formation but you do get unlucky occasionally.

Downside is there's no good drops from doing this, it's not fatigue friendly, and you use about 50 fuel each run. Remember to equip a radar on someone to reduce maelstrom effect.

>>11809393
>ownside is there's no good drops from doing this
Ooi and Shiratsuyu drops like candy at 5-1

>>11809395
A common DD and a CL you should already have at level 50?

>>11809395
I don't know, I just don't think you'd be at 5-1 if you don't already have Ooi. I thought Shiratsuyu isn't exactly worth noting but damn that updated art is nice.

>>11809397
Shiratsuyu is pretty rare man.
It is my second last ship after Nagato for the first No100

Now that 3-2a is borked, what's a good stage for new-mid level admirals to take it easy at?

3-2a without the steel node is kinda taxing on fuel

>>11809412
3-2 is probably the most effective for fuel/ammo ussage

>>11809414
This, I've yet to find a more efficient spot to grind when you wish to reduce repair bills and really take it easy without compass trolling. 3-3-A is another spot but the enemies can be a bit tough to take on.

>>11809317
It's generally called "marriage" because of the leaked lines.

What did the devs call it?

>>11809414
You mean saving steel right?
You are actually spending the same amount fuel/ammo to sortie but getting less experience.

>>11809417
they didn't call it anything in specific but they said it's not a "marriage" system. Essentially, upon getting to level 99, you can somehow increase their stats past their limit.
How to increase them, how much or if that is going to make it into the game after all is pretty much up to anyone's guess

>>11809412
What're you talking about? 3-2-A has always been the most overall resource efficient for you to take it easy at due to not having to repair your ships and how quickly you can destroy that node.

The steel node was just a nice extra bonus.

>>11809418
If that's what you want to say anyway just go to the highest level map you have unlocked. You'd still be using the same amount of fuel/ammo to sortie and getting more experience. You might spend a lot of steel and bauxite though.

>>11809412
I never exploited the bug and always run 3-2 for exp, where would you go anyway? that's the best node to decent modernization materials and exp random ships with random setups, you only need a SS, a CV and a BB, others can be anything.

Damn it. Why is it always the DDs I scrap for dock space that are required for these quests. And then when I need them, they never appear.

>>11809422
The lines do sound pretty lovey-dovey, though.

But "marriage system" is likely to stick as a nickname for whatever the system is.