/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>mfw Naka's 2nd remodel will have a Kaiten as a stock equipment

>>11790737
They were torpedo boats (水雷艇). You can hardly expect to count as a cruiser when you displace 500 tons total.

>>11790750
Please don't misuse the green text feature.

Kancolle's assorted guides
http://imgur.com/a/7HZO7/all

>>11790750
Which equipment is a kaiten, Onii-chan?

I'm guessing it's either a ASW equipment or turbine.

Did you include Maruyu on your subcheesing, /jp/?

Takao is best sea vessel.

I'd like to know how bad your computer has to be to fail to load 2000 posts, post specs.

>>11790777
I want, but I think she is too weak, so I'm only keeping her in docks

>>11790785
nice boat
would fuck

>>11790789
Do, not think.

>>11790765
One liner greentexts should be fine.

>>11790762
Would you be disappointed if Naka's kai ni is this, just without the santa stuff?

>>11790767
Torpedo.

>>11790792
I see what you did there.

>>11790801
Nah, it'd more likely be a better pose than both.

An idol has to make lots of different poses, after all.

>>11790803
"My face when" is offboarder shit, keep it out or lurk more.

>>11790766
By the way, if there's any more guide / statistic / other stuffs, please post so I can include it.

>>11790812
Point taken. I'm not him though.

>>11790803
They're fine on /a/, where that post was copy and pasted from. It's just a waste of space here. There's not even a chance in hell Naka's getting Kaiten anyway so I don't get the point unless it's just a really lame joke.

>>11790823
A true idol fan would be willing to launch himself to death for the cause.

>just a really lame joke
They can't all be winners.

>>11790794
I like her voice, sounds pathetic but kinda cute

>>11790825
It's hard not to find Mamiko Noto's voice cute.

>>11790789
She's almost untouchable on 5-3

Did you go to end notes on 5-3, /jp/?

>>11790887
5-3 clear is my New Year's gift.

>>11790887
I couldn't even pass world 3 and world 4 yet

>>11790766
Where is the guide on how to get Taiho?
I really need it.

I am a secondary.

I haven't played the game, but I have watched the Youtube videos.

Kongou is best.

Touhou of our generation.

>>11790766
What is that How to CA one about? Seems important.

>>11790887
Once and I did not bring enough ASW for it.

>>11790928
Recommended setup and comparison to other types in different occasions.

>>11790926
Komgou is the Sanae of Kancolle

>>11790887
I was sent to every possible node with subs before I cleared it.

Wonder what's going to happen on Valentine's.

>>11790917
Pray to the RNG gods and proceed to flush all your resources down the toilet via LSC.

>>11790953
>Wonder what's going to happen on Valentine's.
Marriage time.

>>11790953
Marriage update and Kai Ni for the best CVL

>>11790964
I'm sorry, RJ. Chitose is way better than you.

>>11790762

Why is she so ugly? Do people actually play this stealth-advertised for-normals garbage?

>>11790963

I hope the shipgirl you marry gets a unique background. Maybe even new lines unique to marriage only.

>>11790941
... Actually, that does make sense, holy fuck. Well, apart from losing common sense and misunderstanding and destroying friend's property

>>11790941
That would be Haruna.

Isn't this the new hot Facebook game for normals? Farmville with ships or something, and they paid Pixiv artists hush-hush to advertise it? Disgusting.

>>11790972
Why is this guy always here? Does he actually waste his whole life whining for a game?

>>11790975

Why is she pissing herself? Are the characters in this game retards, so the people who play it can empathize?

>>11790975
>>11790974
Slutmakaze seems more like Sanae

>>11790975
Nah, she's just a good girl.

... Wait.

>>11790977
Please continue ignoring him.

>>11790982
Shimakaze = Aya
Haruna is the poster slut girl because of the implication of her VA.

>>11790986
... Yeah, this image really reassures me that Haruna is Sanae, but the Sanae before she loses her common sense

>>11790986
Please stop sexualizing my favorite BB

>>11790981

She just spilt her tea.

>>11790984
It's just really unexplainable how a person can be so very persistent on hating and posting on 4chan.

I mean, if I get banned, I'll probably just ignore this place altogether and assume as if this thread never existed in the first place. This person doesn't, it really boggles my mind.

But yeah, I'm sorry for feeding the troll

>>11790993

No, that is clearly retard-piss.

Are you all incontinent retards? Is that why you like this amazingly shit game? You feel some connection for this retarded badly-frawn character who pisses herself?

"Only this self-pissing retard understands me..." - everyone who plays KanCer

>>11790968
She isn't, but even if she was she already has live 5 kais.

>>11791013
What if I have five RJ? Does it equal out?

>>11790997
You are underestimating the autism that drives people like that.
>>11790964
RJ actually had come combat kills throughout her career. She managed to sink merchant ships close to Burma and she did go to the Aleutian. She isn't likely to get Kai2 just with her wartime service record I guess.

>>11791014
They must be very easy to stack.

>>11791016
Damn, clearly I lack the autism to do this kind of stuff then. Maybe I should be happy now

>>11791013
>>11791014
>>11791016
>>11791017

Oy, retards. Stop pissing yourselves and shitting up my board. Control your excretory functions.

>>11791016
RJ is a joke character like Naka-chan.
She is the Chihaya of Kancolle. I mean if Naka-chan can get a kai2 because of her meme, I dont see why she cant kai2.
She is probably more popular than Zuihou and both the monster tits puppeteers.

>>11791022
There's no need to be upset little missy. ;^)

Is 2-4 grinding (with subs?) the best way to get Shimakaze? I've tried getting her from my crafting dailies for the past two weeks but all I get is subs

>>11791029

Is there something WRONG with being female, you sexist retard fuck?

>>11791022
>implying /jp/ isn't /a/'s toilet.

>>11791026
>joke character
>Chihaya
But I liked Chihaya.

>>11791027
Shimakaze can drop on all nodes in 2-4, although don't expect her to drop from sub run. Expect to have a chance from S rank finish only, since she is a holo drop.

>>11791030

Your mom is my toilet, retard.

>>11791032
He's obviously joking.
Anyone with eyes can see that Chihaya is the MC.

>>11791035
... fuck you for posting here, dad. aren't you supposed to be working?

>>11791027
2-4 is just like 3-2 steel reset
You can do 2-4 + fuel reset

>>11791035
My mom is dead faggot.

>>11791037
A toilet doesn't have to be alive.

>>11791039
>/jp/'s parents
>working

>>11791027
>>11791033
Or you know, get her like how almost every old player got her, farming 2-4-A for levels. Obviously 2-4-A farming has died out since everyone has subs now and clearing 2-4 ain't a problem at all, probably best if you just craft her.

>>11791042
More satisfying when it is.

>>11791048
Funny how RNG is like. I couldn't get a sub through RNG for weeks, but ZKMS and Beaver were built in the first week for me.

>>11791032
>>11791034
>Chihaya is the MC
Good joke

>>11791052
For you.

>>11791042
Rude!

>>11791033
>>11791036
Alright thanks, I'll just do the same thing I do with 3-2 then.

>>11791048
I'm still new and sub cheesed to 3-2 with Iona, I was kinda stupid and tried to do a LCS craft because I see people talking about it a lot in these threads, so I'm drained for resources.

>>11791053
I'm on the same boat but I kind of picked a good(?) timing to join during November event to get Iku in my first week.

>>11791059
>sample
Please leave.

>>11791059
>2.57 MB (2893x4092)
>/jp/
You are in /jp/ you know

>>11791056
You obviously don't know and never did 2-4-A farming. It works exactly like 3-2-A except there's no steel, the enemies are weaker and you get less exp. Resource consumption is same as 3-2-A farming.
You can choose to proceed and hopefully land on either the fuel or ammo node though.

>>11791045

My Dad is NEET and a proper aspie.

It is horrible.

>>11791026
And she will still be flat

and not the best CVL

i'm debugging here for hours and haven't found any fault or exceptions in KCV r138.

it's like you guys are trolling when you said it was crashing.

>>11791074
Your advice worked for me. I was able to run it on Windows 7 just fine after clearing out the IE cache, increase cache size, install fresh to a new directory.

>>11791074
They probably are, mine has been running with full notifications for hours now, the only time any KCV has crashed is when flash stops responding.

>>11791069
>It works exactly like 3-2-A
But can't the first node in 2-4-A have a CLT? 3-2-A seems a lot better because I can just have a sub take all the damage.

>>11791079
The behavior that I was getting was that the app would run initially, and it would crash when I get past the loading screen. That problem was gone after I did the steps on >>11791076

>>11791056
Doing LSC is a good decision.
You are sure to get a BB from 4/6/6/3/20 with a very good chance for Nagato-class. I have seen more Nagato-class in this 2weeks from LSC than 1month of daily crafting 400/30/600/30.
The Taihou recipe has a high chance of getting Taihou and 5th cardiv.

To whoever created the english sanaechan/logbook, Ctrl+R is already used by the item crafting report log. You can't use it for the repair queue list as well, the original is Ctrl+N.

>>11791085
But with normal craft it could give you around 3 chance of battleship instead of LSC even with minimal recipe.
And honestly craft 400/30/600/30 is less hurting against 1500/1500/2000/1000.
or it could just me

>>11791101
The odds of landing Nagato in normal craft is abysmal. 400/100/600/30 is less hurt than the min, that I admit.

>>11791114
Do we have an actual percentage like 2.4% or 1.5%?

>>11791114
Is there a difference between that and 400/30/600/30

>>11791101
Do you enjoy your Myoukou-class that much?

>>11791101
Isn't the chance for Nagato still pretty low with 1 dev tool?
And using 20 might be a bit much at a low level when you could be saving them to do much better LSC crafts.

>>11791084
okay, that means there were no problem after all.

>>11791086
right, i'll change it to Ctrl+Q.

>>11791117
About 20+% combined for both Nagato and Mutsu with bare minimum LSC recipe from what someone parsed from wikiwiki comments quite recently.

>>11791120

>>11791124
I was talking about the regular BB recipe for 600 steel.

>>11791101
Even a lowbie can do 1 LSC every other day if they have access to 2-3 and 4th fleet. The cost isnt as astronomical as you think.

>>11791114
Yes I admit that crafting Nagato class from that recipe is very rare
>>11791118
No, but I keep every copy of them
>>11791120
See >>11791126

Okay, so luck is confirmed to have improved cut-in rates in night battles. But does it reduce your evasion during day battle or increase how often you get crit something?
Watching almost anything and everything crit either Yukikaze, Shigure, Goya, Hiryuu, Zuihou or other high luck ships(haven't sent Zuikaku on real sorties yet) to orange/red almost instantly every sortie is frustrating as hell.

>>11791132
Yeah, if the said lowbie wants to wipe his gain of the day out in a hurry. A lowbie could afford 1x LSC at the lowest figures.

It's not that horrific a deal in a way. If you look at what the lowbie could get, it's actually possible that he can land Nagato and Mutsu in a hurry. In fact, the very high rate for getting Yahagi (9.8%) makes me feel kind of angry for going through all that trouble at E7 just to get her.

Doing this 1x LSC does mean that the newbie won't be doing much else crafting wise. I don't think he can even try to build the 46cm through the 4x dailies after this is said and done.

Just lost a ship because of accidentally advancing. How do I stop being such a bad admiral?

>>11791148
Refresh if you accidentally advance.

>>11791148
Stop having such accidents and actually pay attention. You are the cause of your own problem.

>>11791148
Scuttle yourself.

>>11791145
I find that the biggest limitation of min LSC crafting is bauxite. It's by far the hardest to get. You can farm steel through 3-2, fuel from 2-3, it has a lower natural regen and I can only think of one good expedition for it, Exp 6.

>>11791155
The catch 22 with running expedition 6 is that you don't get anything else. If you run 2/5/6, you will want fuel badly. Doing this makes 2-3 all day every day a mandatory thing...

>>11791145
Plane crafting is cheap.
But yeah 251/250 gun crafting is going to be quite bad but it is not like you need more than 2 46cm until late game. As long as you do 2-3 daily diligently and sparkled ex5 for the whole day, you can actually do LSC everyday while still maintaining top500 speaking from experience.
Lowbie ships actually cost less to run unless they are retarded and run 4xBB for every map and 3-2.

>>11791155
Better keep doing that expedition 6 then, think of all the amounts of furniture coin you'd be rolling in and how quickly you can get your hands on the next expensive ship model.

>>11791074
Why would anyone troll about that? New directory didn't help. Cache clearing and size altering didn't help. 134 worked fine, 138 is fucked for me. Saying that people are trolling or that there's "no problem" is disingenuous at best - it may not be a common issue, but it exists.

>>11791160
If you run 2/5/6, you don't lose any fuel from it. If you sparkle your exped 5 you'll still make gains. If you're in need of fuel that badly, run 3/5/6 or something and lay off using buckets like it's drug.

Ahhh crap, I didn't save my cache, and downloaded r138, now I can't run the event maps anymore.

>>11791161
How did you clear your cache? I didn't do this through the explorer settings, but instead went to ccleaner. I don't know if that would help, but it's worth a shot.

>>11791158
Expedition 6 will still take about 8 hours to make 1000 bauxite. I guess that still adds up to 3 LSC crafts a day (with natural regen making up for your less than autistic attention to the 40 minute expeditions)

>>11791126
So it looks like all the Taiho/Yamato recipes seem to converge around 10-12% success rate as the sample size increases.

>>11791165
I can't sustain 2/5/6 during event. Normally I can go through a day on less than 10 buckets. Heck, the occasional 5-2 becomes quite easy to do with you do 2/5/6.

>>11791170
There's also expedition 11 for those in need of more Bauxite and expedition 15 for those desperate for it. Of course, you're using all your expedition fleets for only bauxite and that's probably not worth it.

>>11791172
>So it looks like all the Taiho/Yamato recipes seem to converge around 10-12% success rate as the sample size increases.
Some anon posted that it maybe inflated as quite a number of people may tend to only report if they get the ship they want.

>>11791177
My bottleneck is always ammo and bauxite since I can just refresh for steel.
I really dont know how you guys are struggling with fuel. 2-3 subs run and daily reward will give you a net fuel gain everyday.

>>11791179
The sample size is getting large enough that we can actually follow the reported rates I think. The guide is just a guide though.

Another thing is that each roll is independent of each other. You do not get larger % chance to win it by next roll.

>>11791179
Yeah and we've seen the success bias in favor of low level HQ admirals when it comes to standard recipes for rare CV/BB, so if it applies to LSC as well then the results will be skewed if they report success as well.

Given the increasing sample sizes though and the fact that all the recipes seem to converge around the same 10-12% mark at high enough attempts then it seems to me like the numbers are fairly reliable. It really seems to come down to a decision between:

A - Use high cost recipes assuming they have a better chance per attempt.

or

B - Use low cost recipes hoping to get a better shot via a higher number of potential attempts.

>>11791182
You clearly havent learn about compound probability

>>11791185
You clearly didn't understand it when you did learn it.

>>11791155
Unless you're running 5-2 all day, bauxite gain from expedition and daily can be quite a lot. I could net 1000+ bauxite even if I bring CV/L into PvP and run 3-2-A and 3-3-A with them.

Gamblers fallacy people.

>>11791181
Because fuel is used for EVERYTHING. I don't think you can do anything in this game without using fuel, even equipment crafts will still take a minimum 10 fuel.

>>11791181
If you're struggling with ammo you probably aren't running expedition 2 or 5 constantly.

I'm I certified actuary and I have to go with this guy.

>>11791182
Well, the winrate if not going up, but obviously the chance that you HAVE Taihou after multiple crafts in higher.
Assuming 10% success, after 1 craft, the chance that you don't have her is 90%. After 2 crafts it's 81, after 3 it's 72,9, etc etc

>>11791182
>Another thing is that each roll is independent of each other
That's just an assumption though. We don't really know whether or not the roll is truly independent. As an anecdote, you tend to get duplicated ship more often than the ones you don't have. However, I don't have evidence for that.

>>11791189
Not him but my ammo usage is ridiculous. I have to run expedition 2 and 5 constantly everyday just to make sure I have net gains.

>>11791185
Wiki. Independent events multiplying itself.
Assume 10% odd of getting Yamato,
1-(.9)^7, approx .522.
around 65% of Yamato in 10 tries, 52% in 7. 79% in 15.

This is what you meant, anon?

>>11791197
Wtf are you using in your fleet?

>>11791188
>>11791189
Trust me, if you are doing yamato recipe everyday while still trying to stay inside top500 you are going end up with fuel doubling every other of your resources. Most quests only give fuel as reward.
Besides, with turbines being confirmed useless, putting fuel into any of your development recipe is just retarded

>>11791198
My 3-2-A runs consist of primarily CA with 2 CVL. Generally, ammo usage is more than fuel usage. The latter of which is mitigated by 2-3 but that itself adds more to the ammo usage. It's not the most efficient setup but I'm leveling my CAs and I want to train all them.

>>11791185
>>11791193
a 10% chance will always be 10%.
Statistically you are more likely to succeed the more times you do it.

In theory you can do it a million times and always fail because your chance does not increase the more times you do it, however by doing it that many times you are likely to succeed because of the statistical nature of the world we live in.

I forget what the term is called, but for example if you take a series of tests and in the first one you do horribly, you are more likely to do better on the next one.

Is playing kancolle on 2 computers not allowed? For example, I want to sortie 2 fleets at the same time.

>>11791205
Which still doesn't make sense how you can't make net gains of ammo if you're doing 2 and 5 all day.

>>11791210
> I have to run expedition 2 and 5 constantly everyday just to make sure I have net gains.
>just to make sure I have net gains.
I do have net gains by running run 2 and 5 consistently. My goal is to come out with 1000+ of each resource everyday; that's my definition of net gain and I'm sure many players are able to double that amount.

>>11791210
By that I mean like a substantial amount of ammo net gain, even by constant sortieing.

>>11791208
You can't sortie 2 fleets at the same time.

I kind of wish that a 5th fleet can be unlocked to better meet LSC demands. That would allow for 2/3/5/6 when I am playing the game actively...

>>11791205
>>11791210
I'm running into the same issue running 3-2-A, 2/5/9 all day. Although I don't sparkle 2.

>>11791208
What?

>but for example if you take a series of tests and in the first one you do horribly, you are more likely to do better on the next one.

I don't think that's a good example, unless you just randomly select answers (and only works with tests where you have to pick from predetermined answers).

An example I like: give a chimpanzee a keyboard and a trillion years. After a while, he'll type the first page of Hamlet.

>>11791208
There's nothing wrong with it, please feel free to do so.

How cost-efficient is it to use random drops for expedition, and just scrapping them when they get back?

>>11791198
>>11791210
How?
6000 from LSC
411 from 1 5-2 run
Sparkled E5 running for full day only give 4788ammo.
Unlike ammo, every other resources have maps where you can exploit them.

>>11791207
When people say that you have 70% chance of getting a Yamato in X amount of crafts, they mean you have a 70% of getting one or more Yamato., which is the sum of the chances of getting exactly one Yamato, exactly two Yamato, etc.

>>11791217
He's talking about Mean reversion, which is a characteristic of stock prices. Thought it could still be relevant, since as we all know, there is no such thing as perfect RNG.

>>11791227
Which is basically the odd of 1- possibility of no yamato in x amount of tries.

>>11791225
>How cost-efficient is it to use random drops for expedition, and just scrapping them when they get back?
Depends on how are you getting those drops. DD drops like flies in stage 1 and probably half of stage 2 but beyond that, you are going to run into CA and CL more often than not unless you deliberately screw-up the battle ranking.

>>11791161
considering i have been debugging for 6 hour straight, the buggy code should have been found by now. not to mention that the lines of code changes itself are not many.

as it stand, it's probably either a rare case or an end-user error (e.g using the previous version's config file).

it would be nice if you could post your environment (OS, IE version, and .Net Framework) and the information displayed when it crashed (similar to http://i.minus.com/ibuyl0rYPkzc9n.jpg ) so i can determine what caused the error.

>>11791227
Mean reversion is not a random thing though, since it's caused by expectations and behavioral rules

>>11791225
Why would you do that though? It's not like they come sparkled or anything.

>>11791236
We'll never be privy to those of course. Only the devs have'em. We only have approximation to work with.

>>11791239
No need to pay for the fuel costs of expedition. Scrapping also yields steel mostly. It does make sense in a way.

>>11791235
Talking about crashes, logbook mk3 crashed for me when I tried using the filter function and it works perfectly on mk2, dont know if it was a one time only thing or a problem with that version.

Also how exactly do I get them working together? I get fiddler errors and refusing connection errors on KCV but logbook works perfectly fine.

>>11791230
The chance of getting a Nagato has no memory of previous crafts. The chance of someone with no Nagatos after 9 crafts getting one on the 10th craft is the same as the chance of someone getting a 10th Nagato after 9 successful crafts.

>>11791236
I'm agree with that point, that's why I added it "could" be relevant if what we're dealing with isn't perfect RNG.

>>11791241
When you put it that way it does kind of make sense. I like using expeditions to level up DDs I'm fond of though.

>>11791243
The probability of someone getting no Nagato after 10th craft is not the same as someone getting no Nagato after their 1st craft.

Lets do an analogy with coin which is the simplest. The probability of getting 4tails in a row is lower than 50%, while the probably getting tail on the first flip is 50%.

>>11791247
I said after for a reason.
The chance of getting Nagato AFTER 9 crafts of anything is the same as the chance of getting Nagato first try.
What you're thinking of is if you did 10 crafts for Yamato at the same time.

I just realized the ship in question had changed and now I don't want to correct myself.

Do any of you, if you did, still remember the ship(s) you sunk when you're still bad at this game?

I still feel bad for sinking Murasame and Furutaka.

>>11791241
>>11791244
Exactly. What I'm thinking is running 1-1 per usual to sparkle for expedition 5 or something, and then use your extra drops for a short expedition, then scrap them. You still have 2 proper fleets for expedition.

If we assume an average drop of 1 every run, then we have three (almost) free run of expedition 3 (we still need a proper flagship). A couple of free resource as well, including steel.

I wonder if this is actually efficient? I'm sorry, I'm bad at math.

>>11791253
Shigure. 3-2. I really wanted to get through that map, advanced on red.

>>11791255
Oh, and doing it like that feels like I'm bullying the girls. Which gives me a massive erection.

>>11791253
I sunk a Imuya because some anon said I should still advance at 大破 damage while sub cheesing. I haven't sunk anything else, although I really want to sink my Yamashiro, she's so annoying she doesn't even deserve to be scraped.

>>11791255
It's pretty autistic though, just putting it out there. You'd definitely have a slightly more net gain but I think it's also almost negligible since DDs are already the cheapest to maintain.

>>11791253
Akatsuki sunk when I cleared 3-2.
She did good and I will always remembered her.

>>11791253
Goya at 3-2-A grinding, I wasn't paying attention to my screen. I was going to refresh at steel node but it was too late since the fleet is already in the end node.

I forgot that my Goya was in red. Feels bad man. She will be the first and final casualty in my fleet.

>>11791242
the ship filter function on Mk3 works fine in my experience although i haven't tried debugging it.

assuming you have the default port settings (logbook: localhost:8888), it should work instantly.
the firewall may interfere but that's rarely happens when using the windows firewall.

>>11791265
That's what you get for abusing f5.

>>11791261
I'm probably the only person in these threads who loves Yamashiro, huh.

>>11791268
I loved Yamashiro ever since I saw her Yamashiri. It's nice and soft.

>>11791265
Although you can still refresh as long as you didn't select a formation yet? Your Goya could've lived, you should feel terrible for this.

>>11791268
You're not the only one. I grew to like her after a few sortie.

>>11791268
>>11791269
>>11791271
Too bad she doesn't love you back. She only loves her sister.

>>11791268
She was my first BB so I'm kind of attached to her, but sometimes her siscon lines annoy me.

>>11791269
the fusou sisters has the best body in my book.
perfect tits and ass.

>>11791269
It is. It's also very round and full.

>>11791274
Sisterly love is the purest, most beautiful kind of love anyway, so I don't mind.
I wish I can be there for her during her depressive streak, though.

>>11790823
Could the lame joke be... Anyone getting a remodel (Kai form) would be getting a Kai-ten.

Well, at least I tried.

Newest data,
4000/3500/6010/6000/20 is the new "miracle recipe".

How are your expedition system? Do you guys have multiple fleets for the same expedition and rotating them, sparkling one while the other is out?

>>11791291
That's the logical thing to do if you want to reduce downtime.

I'm at 2-4 and I don't have a sub at all, do I spam sub recipe non-stop instead of BB now?

>>11791291
2-5-6 for day, 9-13-19 for night.

>>11791293
You might try to hunt Imuya at 2-3.

>>11791293
Goodbye days of 4BB 2CV bruteforce, hello nothing but subcheesing everything.

Just a reminder there's only 5% chance of actually crafting subs and if you're as unlucky as me you wouldn't get a single sub from 100 crafts.

>>11791290
Thanks. Tried it earlier and got a Maruyu and Akitsu maru.

>>11791291
I always use my 2nd fleet for expedition 2 and never sparkle for it, this saves time with having to select a different fleet from the 3rd/4th because it defaults to 2nd.
As for 3rd/4th fleet I rotate out a bunch of low level DD's to make sparkling them easier, although I keep Tenryuu/Tatsuta as the flag ship.

Is getting one of those rare CAs the only way to clear A26? It's the composition quest with the aviation cruiser.

>>11791293
You could have used Iona.

>>11791306
Yes.

>>11791166
ccleaner as well

>>11791235
Win 7 home premium 64 bit
.net framework... 4.5 I think? whatever the latest version is.
IE11, with flash version 11.9.900.170 if that matters

I straight up deleted the old KCV folder and used only the 138 download stuff (138 config, 138 executable, etc). KCV138 ALWAYS crashes at what I can best describe as "after loading stuff, just before the actual game (secretary, admiral room, etc) appears."

Once in a while I do get in but the... two times so far it's crashed around the time an expedition came back.

>>11791293
You only need 1 for end game and the monkeys are pretty good already. The Nagatos are only better because of AP ammo. This come with higher cost and might only be worth it for certain maps with tons of TA class BB.
Just keep doing the destroyer/sub recipe until you get all the subs, seal and beaver.
Carrier might be more important, you wouldnt want to have Akagi as your only carrier by 3-3.

>>11791309
Scratch that last comment, it just crashes whenever the fuck it feels like it. I started it up again, waited on main menu for 30 seconds, and it exploded without any of my expeditions being close to coming back or my even having expedition notifications on.

Are the ship girls giantess?

>>11791293
Jut got to 2-4 as well, is the BB recipe even worth it?
I heard they drop like candy from 2-2 and 2-4-A, so I've been spending all my resources on 330/430/530/430. Got Hiryuu, Kaga, Houshou and 5 Chiyoda out of it so far.

>>11791290
Hiyou. No more of this for a while.

>>11791226
I started the week with 63,000 ammo, and now 3 days later I am at 76,000 after having finished all dailies and down to my last weekly (12 clears of world 4 bosses). By the next weekly quest reset I should be at about 85,000 ammo, for a weekly net gain of 22,000.

I could probably increase that if I actually paid attention to my ammo consumption and maximized it, but right now all I do is run expeditions and subs almost exclusively for quest completion where I can. I don't have to grind 5-2 or anything like that to maintain top 500 ranking either.

>>11791324
The BB recipe is only worth it if you get Nagato and her craft is speculated to be at 1%.

>>11791274
I don't mind. She's like my little sister or a daughter to me.

>>11791330
So instead of that I should just spam sub/rare-destroyer and carriers?

>>11791339
Just do a minimum LSC and hope that your beginners luck nets you something good instead of betting on a sub 10% chance of finding something you want.

>>11791283
Too bad people doesn't seem to care about them that much. I'm dying to see a book where they get plowed, possibly together at the same time.

>>11791339
I've gotten Imuya about 20 times on 3-3-A, and 4 or 5 times on 2-3 boss. Goya on the other hand only dropped once in E-5 during the fall event, and twice during E-2 farming this last event.

Has anyone noticed this game is awful and for normal people?

>>11791339
Yeah
Cranes, goya and yukikaze are pretty much out of your reach until you get to 5-2.

Did a few minimum recipe hoping for decent ships, got a bunch of Fusou and Kongou class. I guess RNG is punishing me for getting Taihou in my third craft.

>>11791371
Good.

>>11791371
Maybe you're just a faggot and can't craft properly?

I can't be the only one who change furniture to the futon everytime I log off to sleep, can I?

>>11791386
Lol cute

>>11791386
My secretary is on nightwatch so putting on a futon is a bit counterproductive.

>>11791386
A friend of mine always do this, I'm impressed and worried at the same time.

>>11791386
You should leave it on so Yuubari can watch some chinese cartoons.

>>11791418
But you have to have a futon you to YASEN with your secretary.

>>11791386
I like to think that my secretary deserves a bit better than to sleep in an office on a futon every night.

>>11791437
My secretary is not allowed to sleep.

>>11791429
I pretend to think that the Kanmusu continue with their lives even after I log off.

So if that means Yuubari gets to watch chinese cartoons she does.

Just noticed I lost a ton of bauxite refueling after my last 2-2 run
>5*sqrt(45) + 5*sqrt(12) + 5*sqrt(27) + 2*sqrt(10) = 33 + 17 + 25 + 6 = 81
This should guarantee an aerial advantage, right? It only leaves 36 slots on each CV for Torpedo Bombers though.

>>11790766
Here's another, I found it on my hard drive. I don't know whether it will be useful.

>>11791450
More like she could because we logged off / leave the office. She would be too embarrassed to be caught watching anime.

>>11791374
I still haven't got Yukikaze so yeah maybe I'm a faggot

>>11791409
T-thanks...!

>>11791426
Worried? Why?

>>11791429
If I leave it on, my secretary ship will feel obliged to stay awake and keep watch over me. We can't cuddle and sleep together like that!

>>11791437
But it would be more practical, for both of you! You can just pick up yesterday's work straight away without wasting any time after waking up. You two can respond quicker to emergencies, too.

Also the office and futon looks pretty comfy and fuwafuwa. And I heard you sleep more effectively when you sleep with another person, so it's healthier for you two as well.

>>11791448
Tons?
You only get like 50% chance of getting a 2-2 boss with wo isnt it? If you dont have reppu, just go with bare minimum air power.

>>11791460
I got Yukikaze first day, didn't even know she was rare, only that she's one of the popular ones. Come to think of it, I also got Ooi on my first day. I guess it's because the RNGod accepted my gift, my Inazuma who sank on my first day as well. Fuck.

>>11791448
5*sqrt(45) + 5*sqrt(12) + 5*sqrt(27) + 2*sqrt(10) = 83,16... ~ 83
Don't round early, nerd.

>>11791474
My first lucky craft was a Mutsu in the first day. I didn't have to sank anything (and still haven't now) for the RNG so it's all good

>>11791469
That's just silly. I run a fleet that contains a floating hotel and a submarine that can only sink, so I don't think practicality is much of a concern there.

Besides, have you ever been to an office? They're dusty and dirty places. Adequate for working, but not for sleeping. Think about your secretary's health!

>>11791495
If only I have Hatsukaze and the useless Hotel to complete my idle trophy fleet.

This game is apparently the new Farmville? Sounds stupid, why would anyone play it?

They even bribed Pixiv artists to stealth-advertise the game? Ew.

>>11790813
miracle recipe for boats

>>11791508

>>11791516

Is that the one who pees all over herself from how retarded she is? Is she like your autism spirit animal or something?

>>11791472
Not sure about the exact amount, but it was a noticeable hit since my bauxite was already low from crafting
Maybe I should just stick to 2-4-A and disregard Fighter altogether

>>11791553

Why are you typing like you're stupid?

>>11791508
Sir, despite how stupid you seem to appear, you have given me a great idea

So guys
What if
Listen to me
What if
We make our own Farmville
And listen to me
We make our own
But we put in cute girls
So we plant cute plant girls
And raise cute livestock girls
And then we harvest cute girls
Yeah? How about that? Yeah?

>>11791554
He probably is. He's browsing /jp/ after all.

>>11791553
Would play.

>>11790788
>I wonder what the kind anon who usually makes these charts would think when he sees that filename.
I thought the same. Damn.

9th try for Taihou, now with the 3.5/3.5/6/6 recipe. Third Zuikaku.

i want to lick Iku's collar bones.

>>11791648
Oppai lolis are great, I really hope we get some more Shobon subs for Midway filler.

>>11791575
It was inevitable, I was more surprised when nips tweeted the christmas event map selection screen I leaked here before that maintenance.
Everyone is watching us.

>>11791652
We're an interesting crowd, obviously.

feelio when no dev tools to try Taihous because you wasted a shitload on 100 tool attempts.

>>11791648

same but everything

>>11791648
I would drink her bathwater.

>>11791665
It's probably easier to get 20 dev tools than it is to get 6k bauxite

>>11791680
i'm a lazy faggot and i only do like half of my dailies/weeklies. otherwise yeah you're probably right. never really thought about my dev tool income when i had 300+

Every run in 5-3 brings back the memory of E-4. God damn it ladies, aim straight.

>>11791690
Should have done it with fog ships to prevent PTSD.
I wonder what newer people will feel when they get there.

>>11791680
about the same, you get ~9-10 devkits from dailies and weeklies a day and ~5800 bauxite a day running expedition 6 all day.

if you take it easy the ~1400 bauxite per day from quests and natural regen can be enough to cover your daily sorties.

>>11791714
I wonder how the fog ships would have done in support expedition.

>>11791714
They're going to cheese it with subs, they'll feel nothing.

>>11791716
5800 is for 2 days of course

>>11791720
Sub cheese with Maruyu instead of Hachi?
That will be a nice week for them.

>>11791690
Clearing 5-3 is best done with? Assuming no cheesing with subs of course.

I was thinking Melon-chan as flagship (with 4 ASW sonars to deal with the gold sub), then Poi (double attack) and Beaver (cut in) as the 2 DDs, and Shioi to divert hits. And 2 more that I haven't decided.

>>11791729
Hachi will be obtainable at some point in the not so far future

>>11791725
that's with sparkling and not sleeping at all?

>>>/a/99909083

4koma things for bored people.

Is it worth trying to grind for a Hiryuu to complete my 1-100, or should I expect it to appear in LSC before I get Taihou? Currently sending a big sub fleet to 2-3 to see if I can get it from the boss. (Which most of them time just results in some loss of fuel and ammo and some quests finished)

>>11791732
>Shioi to divert hits
CA and BB will be your greatest worry not DD, CL or CLT (Their cut-ins hurt a lot though). I was thinking of just going line abreast in the boss node, take out the sub and let night battle do the work but that's too much for my girls.

>>11791761
Diamond formation would work better I think.

>>11791764
I guess it's the best compromise or the best setup is to go 2DD and 4CA. Let the 2DD hit the gold sub for all they care and let the 4CA do the horsework.

I was rotating submarines for 2-3 fuel farming and I found that the Iku I was about to rotate to was level 19.

Damn coincidence.

>>11791761
You just need to take out the supply ship so I found using torpedo cruisers in line ahead would sometimes knock it out in the opening or ending torpedo salvos.

>>11791737
not sparkling and using scripts

>>11791775
That will do but it's just too much of a risk considering how lucky is it to even get to the boss node without anybody in the reds.

>>11791768
Wow nice post man

>>11791775
I shouldn't be using torpedo cruisers then since my objective is to take out the gold sub so my DDs can take care of the transport ship.

Since heavy cruisers can also dish out insane damage in night battle I guess I'll go with those.

Yuubari, Poi, Beaver and 3 CAs. Sounds good?

If only ZUN!bar was here...

Ideal setup for Kitakami Kai? I'm aiming to get some midget subs once I level Chitose but what would be best in the other slot? Oxy torps, a 15.5 yellow gun, or something else?

And yes I am going to get her remodeled again when she reaches that level.

>>11791792
Kitakami Kai - Oxygen torps, Hyoteki
Kitakami Kai Ni- 15.5 yellow x 2, Hyoteki

>>11791792
I don't get it. I've been farming world 2 nodes and got duplicate kongou-types and not a single KTKM/Ooi yet.

>>11791799
Noted. Thanks

>>11791792
any answer you'll get be wrong, for there's no ideal setup but contextual setups.

>>11791807
what else are you going to run on ktkm other than 2 yellows 1 minisub? 12.7cm green? placebines? or god forbid, a damecon?

>>11791822
20.3cm(3gou)

>>11791826
I remember something about 15.5 yellows being more accurate in night battle by virtue of being more 'stable'. And another about CLs not being able to utilize 20.3cms properly.

>>11791822
You can use ASW equip, torpedo in case of CA/BB nodes, and so on. I used 15.5 / 10cm / Minisub for the november event E5 boss node.

>>11791822
20.3 and 12.7 vice because I lack 15.5 and am too much of a jew to craft them.

>>11791852
You should get some if you tried to craft 46cms

>>11791859
I get more torpedoes from 46cm crafts, no kidding. I think Type-91 and Type-3 ammo are more likely to yield 15.5 as failure.

>>11791852
>>11791859
You are only short of it because you didn't do ironbottom sound.

>>11791866
>You are only short of it because you didn't do ironbottom sound.
Eh? I got Hachi from E4 and that's because I steal my 15.5 from my unused BB to equip my CA and CLT.

>>11791859
>>11791865
Well, it's troublesome how popular they are, too. I have 17 15.5cm yellow guns, but I still end up having to switch them around because all my ships use one or two.

This has been bothering me for some time now, there is an unused function in the client:

getLuckyPower(x):
x < 7: 大凶
x < 16: 凶
x < 24: 末吉
x < 45: 吉
x < 59: 小吉
x < 72: 中吉
else: 大吉

May not be related to anything, but API data indicates that max luck is 79 for the luckier ships ("api_lucky":[30,79]).
Discuss.

>>11791900
Correction: there is some ship with more max luck (99 for Yukikaze)
http://www51.atpages.jp/kancolledb/#api_luck

>>11791900
Are you sure they don't use it anywhere?

>>11791900
It's probably something they had intended to use to display luck qualitatively (the way that speed and range are displayed) but was probably scrapped when they realized that labeling almost everyone 凶 was going to be depressing.

>>11791982
It could mean that you only need 2 more luck for Mutsu to become a "normal" ship.

>>11791966
Yes, though I'm trying to find something related.

Not related, but found a mail in the client, according to google it was sent to players at 13th of June. Anyone was here back then? Translation?
Also other parts of that frame indicates that there is an offline version of Kancolle for practising.

So I gave my Chitose Carrier a 12.7 and two 15.5.
She doesn't do shit.

>>11792052
shocking

Best Taihou recipe?

>>11792062
See >>11791290

Fuck this shit

Is 5-2 run while in flagship position is a good grinding method for a CVL?
Compared to 3-2 of course.

>>11792126
I have the same question, but for CA.

Is there any better way, or 3-2/3-3 is the way to go?

>>11792150
Nah, for CA there is no good option.
Either resource friendly 3-2, or time friendly 5-2.

>>11791509
Is that speculation or confirmed? Anyway, added.

Do you guys keep spares of the rarer ships?

Wait, I just realized something.
If you can obtain air supremacy, you don't need AA guns.

1+1=50.jpg

>>11792178
Only subs

When should I stop leveling Chiyoda? After I get her Type A Ko-hyotekis?

>>11792184
air supremacy doesn't always mean you have destroyed every enemy planes.

Last event, even with air supremacy, the flagship wo class could still send planes during shelling phase

>>11792188
at level 99

>>11792189
How about in 5-2?
Is it the same dickery?

>>11792188
99, she's the 2nd best CVL (after RJ)

>>11792198
>after RJ
Good try, RJ. Go home

>>11792201

>>11791290
I am honestly so f**king glad I did this recipe. I'm now in the Taihou club.

>>11792210
Good for you.
I got one of the cranes

>>11792213
Stay strong, she'll come eventually. I got trolled by Akagi countless times in LSC. I still don't have the #1 in my library though, she's a side product from Yamato though right?

>>11792210
>f**king

This is really bothering me.

>>11792254
Would you prefer ****ing?

One 5-2 run and 320 bauxite bill.

What am I doing wrong?

Abandoned feature from the 11/19 client.
I remember someone here getting to that screen back then,
it was added along LSC in that version, but was removed by 12/17, LSC stayed.
Seems like a category selection screen for item development.

Does anyone here have older versions of port.swf to share?
Is anyone interested in useless info like this?

>>11792284
I'm very interested.

>>11792276
Use more Reppu.

>>11792289
I have only one and its on the Kaga's Kaga slot.
Apparently miracle plane recipe is nerfed for sometime.

Should I try to craft holo planes anyway?

>>11792292
miracle recipe is nerfed?

I forgot to get Akitsumaru's damaged sprite while she was in her non-kai form. Does it still add to my library if she gets damaged in her kai-form?

>>11792292
20/60/10/100 gave me most of my shit. I have about 6 or 7 reppu.

What does this log again?

>>11792302
X is back from expedition
Y docked
Z's fleet defeated yours in PVP.

>>11792313
Thanks

>>11792302
>Bitten
Oh man.

Even with Naka most useful kai ni light cruiser will stay the same.

>>11792288
Old event maps were still there and the april event icons had a greyed out versions,
I'm not sure if it had a purpose back then or they wanted a catalog of event maps,
these were removed too.

Maybe this is how people could play the summer event maps in november, you can step between scenes in flash.

>>11792364
So is there a way to actually play them? Despite DMM's warnings, we know of one person who did just that and hasn't been punished. Looks like this is another case of F5 abuse and playing from a cell phone, where you're not supposed to do it but you're not going to get any punishment if you do.

>>11792389
I wonder if its possible to do it with packet editing. each map has an ID so if you deploy to a map you are sending "deploying with fleet X to map Y" and the packet would contain just that. the server likely doesn't check maps for access restrictions on that packet since you can't click on locked maps anyway.

lets see where I have my packet sniffer...

8th tries, I'm done with LSC. Fuck that
4/2/5/7/20

How do you guys change the one's digit in development? Trying to make some 46cm but I have no idea how to put 251 ammo in.

Also dammit moot, these capchas are terrible.

>>11792406

>>11792406
You can see arrows there. Click.

>>11792408
... I feel dumb.

>>11792346
art style is quite familiar, but I can't remember who did that.
And for some reason, reverse image search lead me to tons of twitter accounts result.

Anyone knows the artist of this isuzu?

>>11792410
You are dumb.

No miracle recipe for Yamato? Fucking Fusou shit keeps popping out.

>>11792389
Well, it was removed since then so not that easily.

>>11792397
You can write a "Kancolle emulator" that emulates a sortie, but the images are no longer in the game, hard way to get a Yamato.

It may be possible though to put together a hacked client based on the one that has the pictures for full event experience, interesting way to get a Yamato.

>>11792414
I don't need the images.
If I can sniff the packets from regular sorties and emulating them works, I merely need trial and error to find the event map ID and sortie there.

>>11792211
つるーぺったん

>>11792416
Saucenao works wonders for searching artwork sauce.

>>11792425
I kept relying too much on google I forgot this one, thanks.

packet sniffing will work but is excruciaingly complex, sadly.
first you actually validate your action with a packet
then you send a request to the server to display X map
then you send fleet data to the server
there are four or five more packets at sortie start, pre-compass roll, that you send to the server, most of which I can't make sense of.

While possible, this is probably as difficult as making an kill_everything hack in big, secure MMOs.

Anyone here familiar with AHK scripts

When using controlclick x,y scripts I should have the window up and the cursor out of it right

Minimized screws with the coordinates though

>>11792439
AHK adjust relative coordinate in a window, iirc.

>>11792418
Good luck, I already do lots of things that would piss off DMM if they log things.
You need to modify existing packets or put togther valid headers too since it doesn't just work sadly.

What's the easiest way to get a KTKM or Ooi? I've been playing for 4-ish months and I still haven't gotten one.

>>11792453
>4-ish months
You just play 10mins a day or something?
ktkm drop in all grinding spot.

>>11792453
How? I've been playing for two weeks and have seen atleast five of them drop while grinding 3-2-A

>>11792455
>>11792465
RNG hates me I guess.

>>11792419
>ありがと！これで赤城や加賀に負けないかなって、そりゃあ無理かぁ、アハハハハ…
Chocci's lines about OP CV's sadden me.
I hope she gets a broken as fuck second remodel.
She is arguably the most popular CVL.

I'm not sure about this one, your ship gets pushed by a wave to a chest, then an octopus emerges from below the chest and gives it to you.
April event special or another dropped concept?

>>11791914
We have max luck, now?

Also, there were actually some people who maxed out the fog ships' luck. Not bad.

>>11792184
Isn't it, like, easier to obtain air supremacy if you have AA guns, anon?

>>11792453
I only have one KTKM, dropped when I cleared boss node, and for Ooi, I still didn't found her

>>11792510
>AA guns
>air supremacy
>supremacy

Are you sure about that?

Unimplemented items, I think this was already posted here once,
I really want to find a reference to these in the client now.

png version: Detected possible malicious code in image file.
moot?

>>11792507
You get the max values in the api data, you don't need to actually max it.

>>11792525
there are compass icons. Of course thats malicious.

She is not even Izusu tier at all.

>>11792522
Why not? If they shoot down enemy planes your own green planes will have an easier time, will they not?

>>11792535
Really? Damn.

It'd still have been fun to see it being maxed though.

>>11792542
AA guns come into play after fighters do their thing.

Well, that was easier than I expected. Aborted twice, wrong way once, got it on the fourth try.

Regarding 3-3, do radars protect the entire fleet from losing fuel/ammo from whirlpools, or just the equipped ship? I should really know this but I've never actually bothered to check.

>>11792547
Interesting. So air supremacy is based on fighters' combat alone?

Doesn't explain how I once had air supremacy with an all-sub fleet for some reason, though.

For all of you that said I'd be banned for grinding the Arpeggio maps yesterday, I'm still grinding them.

>>11792552
Hilariously overlevelled

>>11792556
If you had a SSV with a hydroplane while the enemy fleet had 0 fighters, you obviously have air supremacy.

>>11792569
Nope, all my SSVs were carrying torps. The enemy on the other hand had a ton of planes.

Maybe none of them were green?

>>11792552
>T-level 80
Took you long enough.

Anyone know if any other ships besides carriers and monkey use engrish?
They always make my day when they go outrange and hurriance bow.

>>11792565
I want to grind them too. ;_;

>>11792576
Naka-chan SMILE!

>>11792574
I'm not even sure how it is even possible to have air supremacy with absolutely 0 plane.

You sure you had a green message?

>>11792592
I'm absolutely sure.

And it was 5 kanji not 4 so it's not just superiority either.

>>11792592
Why the heck do people care so much about air supremacy nowadays? Is this a new trend now?

>>11791290
Damn got a Maruyu. Oh well at least I got a new ship and have 5 subs now.

>>11792606
minimizing bauxite cost

>>11792607
you have 4 subs and a pointless thing that can't dodge or tank anything and is only useful for non-sparkle expeditions

>>11792288
I don't think I have ever seen these texts appear.

For the KCV-horizontal, to make it load directly to your api link do you just replace it in the value tag? I tried replacing it but it won't run if I do.

>>11792621

>>11792608
Clearly I'm not that crazy detailed to be bothered about these things. I just slap one green plane to each of my carriers and be done with it

>>11792636
Oh, I wasn't sure about that one, it was in another sprite.
What about the others? I can't read kanji that fast when it pops up.

>>11792634
in the API link, replace & with &amp;

>>11792644
No idea.

>>11792586
Naka-chan power uuup!

>>11792645
Thanks, that got it working.

>>11792552
Entire fleet. Check it out with more radars (on different ships) too.

Where do I get these +12 and +15 torpedo? Sometime I wish wiki has a list of items and the associated way of getting that item...

>>11792621
I think the first 2 are part of a fleeing mechanic that was scrapped.

If I remember correctly, one event map had the boss flee if you performed too well in earlier nodes, so the fourth line could be for that.

Fifth line has already been explained. No idea what the 3rd line is for.

>>11792739
Get your eyes checked.

>>11792739
+12 torps are from Ooi/Kitakami/Kiso Kai 2.

+15 torps are from Fall E-3 reward.

>>11792739
read the wiki better then.
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Equipment
>ctrl+f +12
>find what you're looking for within 5 seconds

>>11792750
>>11792748
>>11792750
Motherfucker, I am definitely blind. I'm bookmarking that page now. Sorry for annoying you guys

>>11792750
I checked, and the equipment page needs some updating.

>>11792576
I was like this guy too. I was stuck at the 3-2 cause I didn't think I was ready, so I ended up crafting a bunch of turbines and shit... and I was in high 70s or something like that before getting through the map.

>>11792741
Nice, the boss F5s when you go the right route.
These texts are still in the game, so it may be not scrapped yet.

>>11792778
If you know it needs updating, why not do it yourself?

>>11792799
I know that I'll never get around to doing it at all.

>>11792798
How are you supposed to beat the map? Do well and the boss runs. Do badly and you need to retreat. Unless you want to sacrifice a shipgirl or two every time you sortie.

>>11792819
Make a night battle fleet and don't do night battles?

>>11792798
>>11792819
I think it's if you S rank earlier nodes the boss runs. You have to get like a B or C on purpose to guarantee boss meeting.