/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>11794719
>A fundamental problem is that I actually no longer have the original data from the early games

Then just release the latest existing versions online as is. Hook them through the Steam loader like everyone else does. Pay for the existing English translations.

Is this seriously an issue? The existing files should not be that hard to reverse engineer for Steam release. This is just dissembling.

I wonder what would happen if ZUN finally did that and got flooded with money.
Do you think it would change him? I personally have faith in ZUN to not change, but one can never be too sure.

He could also just release the newer games on Steam and leave the older ones as is.
I'd be ok with that.

>>11794719
>I would finally have to shift my focus to international audiences.

Does he mean catering to western tastes? He doesn't have to change anything, we love his games as they are. You don't need to change ZUN! Just let me give you money through steam so I can feel better about my life!

>>11794719
Touhou coming to steam would be very interesting.

Would it end up dragging a huge amount of the Japanese market in with it? And how would the success affect ZUN?

>>11794719

I wonder what he means by early games. Does he mean PC-98 era or does it include stuff like EoSD and PCB?

>>11794736
He's already flooded with money.

I know you mean even more money, but it wouldn't matter all that much anymore.

>2hu
>steam

2hu becomes hats

>>11794748

I hope it drags the Japanese market into steam and we get a bunch more Japanese games coming out for steam.

I wonder how much Japanese fandom will instantly vanish when he decides to
> shift my focus to international audiences
and whether the new Western fandom will be able to sustain their own interest in Touhou by making high quality fan works themselves.

Also, no news here, he's been saying that he likes Steam for quite a while.

>>11794763
Do you think each game would come with a Touhou TF2 hat?

>>11794719
He basically said no.

>>11794745
>Just let me give you money through steam so I can feel better about my life!
What stops you from buying physical media which are sold worldwide?

>>11794774
L
A
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Y

>>11794780
I've seen them in a Japanese bookstore in NYC.

>>11794774

They sell the touhou games in America?

>>11794781

Kinokuniya? I've been there but I didn't see them, though it was a long time ago.

>>11794777
Or waiting for a 90% discount? This won't even buy him a beer.
>>11794780
You can order them online in some online stores to pretty much any destination in the world. Heck, Touhou Wiki has a separate page with a list of known shops selling them. How lazy can you people be?

>>11794787
The discounts are paid for by Steam

>>11794769
Fuck you. This is not acceptable.

>>11794794
Can you give me a link to prove your claim? I cannot find any official statement on that and it sounds quite unbelievable.

>>11794719
I thought he specifically stated that only he wanted to translate them if he did sell them abroad, and his english isn't good.

>>11794760
He really isn't, unless he's greedy as fuck since he lives in a shithole and also has a "real" job

>>11794824

What's ZUN's real job?

>>11794784
Yep, that's the place. I went in September and saw there were plenty on the second floor.

>>11794827
Dining out, drinking beer, buying breweries.

It's all he ever talks about on his twitter.

>Also, most of all, if I started using Steam, I would finally have to shift my focus to international audiences.

"We want the TF2/DotA audience"

>>11794824
All figs made by professional companies are made under contract with him. That has to at least be bringing in some monies considering how they sell.

>special thanks......Christopher Poole

Has ZUN apologized for jap war crimes during WW2 yet?

>>11794854
That would be the ultimate underhanded killing blow to /jp/

>>11794864
No, but I believe he recently started apologizing for the invasion of Hokkaido thousand years ago.

What the heck do people have with "international" releases of Touhou? You get the games, and you even get them in English.

>Also, most of all, if I started using Steam, I would finally have to shift my focus to international audiences.
Final Fantasy XIII.

>>11794763
>heavy with reimu ribbon
>scout with marisa hat
muh shekels

>>11794827
Zun is a programmer for Taito, originally working on arcade games but judging from twitter he's actively working on mobile games now. Presumably his rather awkward stance towards distribution limitations on touhou works (such as no touhou works on mobiles ever) are likely due to non-compete with his day job.

>>11794876
>muh sekret club

How much would you pay for a Touhou game on steam?

>>11794991
He quit his job in Taito years ago, and has been talking publicly about the circumstances, which by Japanese standards means he hates them and severed all ties with the company. Even if he's actually working for someone, it's not them.

>>11794997

$10 at most, ZUN. Don't think there are any current shmups for anything higher than that.

Fuck Steam, ZUN, go straight to GOG.

Actually, fuck even them, I see it now: Humble Touhou Bundle.

DotS 2 when? I love dota and touhou so DotS 2 would be fucking great

>>11795017
>Humble Touhou Bundle
Sooner or later it WILL happen.

>>11794986
>>11794992

Please do not misuse the quoting function.

>>11795035
They were using meme arrows bro

>>11795033
CHEEEEEN

I might actually just pirate the games instead if they went to steam with no traditional install disc. I've bought all the windows games so far except for DDC.

>>11794986
There's a ribbon cosmetic for Pyro in the tf2 workshop.

>>11795049
What if Pyro IS a touhou in an asbestos suit?

>>11795017
My body is ready.

>>11795017
y not dasura?? :))

>>11794970
It makes touhou susceptible to the demands of the international market. Although, that doesn't seem like a problem because how much can you change in a bullet hell anyway.

>>11795035
Sakuya-chan, please learn how to properly use them.
Sincerely, /jp/
P.S. we love you

>>11795095
I doubt ZUN is the type to care for this stuff though.

>>11794726
>Hook them through the Steam loader like everyone else does.
You're dumb. That's more or less impossible.

>shift my focus to international audiences

this is a major problem, because international audience are....just browse /v/ and see.

Is the day of the manticore touhou finally upon us?

>>11795178
He doesn't need to focus on us at all.
Just upload the games to steam and that's it.
The games will sell regardless of who he focuses on. Don't fix what isn't broken.

>>11795202
I'd buy it.

>>11795178
>shift my focus
>shift
>focus
I get it!

>>11795218
Imagine if you hadn't caught that. How embarrassed you would be! You sure dodged a bullet there, anon.

So, is there a source on this interview?
Or are we making up quotes for the sake of actually having something new to talk about?

>>11795218
>>11795228
oh god. The puns! I'll let you graze by this time anon but don't let me catch you doing it again.

>>11795239
Nice try nerd but you can't one-up me.

>>11795011
Does he hates Taito so much?
Then what Taito thinks about him?

>>11795242
you really need to extend your knowledge of touhou terms. Else you'll bomb the next test.

I don't think ZUN has a second job anymore.
He heavily implied at AWA that Touhou is all he does now.

Now we can all be Steam friends and play 2hu together, /jp/! This calls for a celebration!

>>11795274
Fuck you, I'll die before getting a steam account.

>>11795274
Maybe proper PoFV netplay.

>>11795274
Now I'll be able to get achievements and show everyone online that I'm good at touhou games.

>>11795283
Perhaps more importantly, you can look down on anyone else without Steam accounts and call them f22hu noobs.

>>11795095
they'd demand an even easier than easy mode, because easy mode is way too hard for them.

>Steam
that feel when you used a lavabit account to create a steam account, haven't used steam in years, and forgot your password

It's very easy to see why: ZUN would have to give half of the earnings to Gaben's fat pockets.

>>11795274
Go for it. Add me.

>>11794970
But I already have the games, and the japanese in touhou is piss easy to understand. Why would I care about getting them in english?

I wonder who Gabe's favourite touhou is?
Probably Suwako, right?

>>11795575
> Probably Suwako, right?
Why?

>>11795577
She's the smallest and he's the biggest,
so its funny and Gabe likes to make fun of himself?
May be I'm wrong.

>>11795582
Flan-chan is tiny too.

>>11795582
I think Kisume is the smallest.

>>11795583
Yeah, but Flan's too entry level.
I'm sure Gabe would have better taste.

>>11795587
DON'T YOU INSULT MY WIFE!

>>11795590
That's... Remilia...

>>11795594
Anger towards you.

>>11795596
Oh, right, the sisters fuck each other?
So wairrrd.

>>11795575
Yuyuko because she likes food as much as he does and is as soft as him.

>>11795599
Yeah, this actually fits better than Suwako.

>>11795597
No it's a reaction. It wouldn't matter what I posted if it represented the feeling I feel.

>>11795604
Oh, right.
pic related; MY reaction

best test in the west.

>>11795606
Now you're getting it.

>>11794992
>>11795035

i really love when cool posters from great boards come to the jay to show us how its done. got a big ol "muh sides" post lined up to show how damn ass funny a post is, just wondering if my cool crossie friends can give some advice on how to spruce it up tho would natch be much appreciated, liek i dont know if i should use the green arrow or not? adgvice please? arigatou.

>>11795599
>>11795601
I think this makes sense too.

>>11795202
I can almost sense my shekels disappearing from my safe right now.

>>11795178
>/v/
you mean neo-neo-neo-neo-/jp/
just look at this thread

>>11795202

holy FUCK. It just hit me. Touhou 6, Embodiment of Scarlet Devil.
6.
Devil.
Number of the beast.
Shit ZUN is awesome.

>>11795798
You're thinking of "666".

>>11795814

It's clearly an allusion. ZUN wasn't going to wait until the 666th touhou game.

>using shitty drm software

>>11795798 >>11795814
Let me get this straight. Remilia is featured in the 6th Touhou installment, appears in stage 6 and has 6 spellcards for any difficulty level.
Coincidence? Yeah, never mind.

Remi is my favourite touhou!

Ojousama daisuki!

>>11796096
I want both of them! Bonus for sweaty boot feet Remi.

>>11794726
DO YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT PROGRAMMING?!

>>11796110
He is simply not aware that the algorythms that ZUN used to make the patterns for that game are all but lost. He can no longer recreate the game, his only choice is to start all over.

>>11796115


uh, shouldent they be right there in any copy of the game?

>>11796127
>>11796110

>>11795884

>>11796131


now that thats out of the way, how else do the games actually generate patterns when you play, if not for the data?

>>11796133
Kinky. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx86CxKYtg0 There you go Remi. Now you can still suck me, but make it my cock. And swallow what comes out. That's an order.

This thread reeks of /v/

>>11796141
Well, there is a Touhou thread on /v/ right now.

>>11796138
You can compile different branches of your code into an executable. But you can't open the executable backwards and see all your branches of code.

If you take a basic lesson on C# you would understand the jist of it.

>>11796142
And it's the exact same thread as this

>>11796144


call the nsa, i bet they could figure something out.

there is already a steam 2hu

called

*snort*

Hisou Tensoku!

>>11796147
We are talking about programming. They are not.

>>11796151
No, we're not. This thread is about nothing

>>11796156
Just like most thread on /jp/ except daily threads.

I really hate people who play video games, and use it as some defining trait of their personality, like playing video games is actually something impressive that anyone gives a shit about. You gain absolutely nothing from playing video games besides some artificial sense of accomplishment.

>>11796158
You know how I can tell you're a crossie? Because no one on /jp/ actually cares about daily threads. They serve a specific audience that comes here for those purposes only.

>>11796162
>You gain absolutely nothing from playing video games
you become good at computers

>Anon, you always play those games, can you see what's wrong with my computer?

>>11796162
I play dungeon crawl stone soup because I want to be a powerful wizard! That's the only reason.

>>11796162
Playing videogames is just a hobby, like playing darts, trainspotting or playing a musical instrument. There can be nothing good or bad about it by default. You are most likely mistaking people talking about their hobbies for people talking about their personality.

>>11796162
I don't see how getting money from a job is a "real" sense of accomplishment compared to video games. I feel accomplished when I beat Visual Novels, for example, because I create memories of the stories that I'll be able to treasure for a long time. I'd rather have pride in such things than in having a "succesful" job while spending most of my day stressed out.

>>11796256
Some jobs can also give a great sense of accomplishment and satisfaction and sometimes actually be useful for the humanity. But you've got the point.

>>11796144
C# is like really easy to decompile though??

Besides that, you can already get the games. In English. And steam can serve and launch games that don't have any DRM.

>>11796262
That would be the optimal solution, yes, but it is very often that people either have to choose to feel accomplishment from intensive work, or from pure entertainment.

>>11796256
Because a job is something you HATE, so when you finish a day and come home, you can spend the rest of the time taking it easy playing games like a little faggot. The sense of accomplishment lies there and not in the money (unless you're going to go blow it all on a hooker or some other shit). Games are supposed to be FUN and fulfilling in themselves, so deriving any "sense of accomplishment" from games is treating them as nothing more than a job. Of course, challenging/grindfest games are an exception, but VNs (hardly qualifies as a game anyway) and casual shit like that are not.

>beat Visual Novels
Do you beat books too?

>>11796256
If you play VNs and self identify as a Gamer, you're a moron

>>11795554

Don't you mean 30%? Amazon takes way more than that with each game sold through it.

>>11795246
Taito is not a human being, so I don't think it gives a shit.

>>11796162
The people working on it, I mean

>>11796269
no its really not. Not only is it extremely difficult to decompile into anything mildly readable. Lots of information will be completely abstracted away by any reasonable compiler.

>>11794768
>Western fandom
>making high quality fan works themselves
HAHAHAHAHAHA.

>>11796513
Meant to >>11796489

I don't know why you guys are happy with that. He hasn't said that he would release them on Steam.

>>11796306

i dont think this is the board for you

This is a lot bigger than Touhou. If ZUN brings this over it will increase the likeness of Japanese developers to distribute their games online by tenfold. Steam already has a few JP games here and there, after Touhou that number will surely multiply. I for one can't wait for it to happen.

>>11796519
How man C# compilers are there, and which one produces output that is inscrutable when decompiled?

>>11798422
But Touhou wasn't even written in C#, dude. Why are we talking about a wrong language?

>>11798422
whoa touhou is older than see-sharp

>>11797806
BALDR SKY
BALDR SKY
BALDR SKY

>>11794719
How did he lose the original data?

>>11798896
2drunk2care

>>11798422
>Touhou
>C#

>C#
>Compiler

>>11798896
Hardware failure is a possibility, or the fact that the older game would take a lot of effort to get off a PC-98 workstation and onto a modern NTFS system. Shit happens.

>>11797806
didn't Recettear perform surprisingly well in the west? That was through steam, correct?

>>11799071

It did but Recettear is no Touhou. They did motivate a lot of other devs to put their games there though. I doubt titles like Fresia would be there without it.

They'd have to play correctly without setting the system locale and other stupid shit like that.

I can't understand why you would want something you like becoming more popular in the west, especially considering the kinds of people it already attracts despite not being available on steam. This particular instance doesn't matter to me as I have very little investment in Touhou, but I still can't understand it.

>>11799071
Only because SA was doing the viral marketing thing like crazy. No one would have even noticed otherwise.

>>11795055
Then it's obviously Mokou in the suit. She's the only one that could handle the heat and also respawn.

>>11806722
No. Marisa is the official Touhou Pyro since DDC.
> 妖気に反応して勝手に火を噴くようになっていた。
> 通常より火力が増し、それが魅力的だったからだ。

>>11798802

oh fuck

>>11806757
what a crazy bitch.