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What's the most accurate touhou alignment?

>> No.11751898

Nazrin is a True Mouse.

>> No.11751904
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11751904

>Byakuren
>not Neutral Evil

>> No.11751905

Everybody is Chaotic Neutral.
Except Okuu who is Chaotic Stupid.

>> No.11751909

>>11751905

Don't be rude, that's my wife.

>> No.11751910

LG Ibara kasen
LN Yamaxanadu
LE Yomoo
NG Moko
N Komachi
NE Cirno
CG Ibuki Suika
CN Yukari
CE Seija

>> No.11751913

>>11751910
>CG Ibuki Suika
that's rich

>> No.11751916 [DELETED] 

posting in a epic thread

>> No.11751920

>>11751910
Gotta point that this is for IN Moko. She has gone through several mind statuses during her life.

>> No.11751922

/jp/ gets more retarded every day

>> No.11751933

>>11751922
Alignment threads are (awful) /jp/ heritage.

>> No.11751930

>>11751896
>Shikieiki on Lawful Good

She's actually more Lawful Neutral. She rather wants people to be in their nature. Like Humans should keep on hunting Youkais and Youkais should stay eating humans. That's not a Lawful Good quality. Replace her position with Kasen cause she's an ultra-moralfag.

>> No.11751935

Kanako, Seiga, and Kokoro are good

The rest is pretty bad

>> No.11751949

>>11751933
Aren't alignments from D&D? You'd think /tg/ would have more to do with it

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>mfw a secondary spewed his uninformed shit near me

>> No.11751965

LG Byakuren
NG Reimu
CG Yukari

LN Shikieiki
TN Aya
CN Yuuka

LE Miko
NE Seiga
CG Seija

>> No.11751966

The OP is probably made that shitty image is a Neutral Imbecile with a -4 on INT and DEX

>> No.11751974

>>11751965

Reimu is LN not NG.

>> No.11751976

You can't put youkai to an alignment, when their nature is to be a monster.

For youkai you should use a separate axis defining how youkai-like or humane they are. Something like Predator - Harmonious - Humane.
An undergrounder like Kisume or Yamame feels that humans should be preyed upon, a Predator.
Mystia terrifies humans, yet keeps a stand for them, she'd be harmonious.
A youkai who is willing to befriend humans and neglects their nature would be humane, someone like Alice or Meiling.

>> No.11751995

>>11751976
Magicians aren't youkai.

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>>11751995

>> No.11752008

>>11751974
reimu is not lawful

>> No.11752038

>>11751995
They become Youkai.

Patchy and Alice are magician youkai.

>> No.11752041

>>11751949
They are, but /jp/ has had fun labeling Touhous and TYPE-MOONs from time to time.

>> No.11752043

Byakuren is evil, dude.
Kanako actually seeks to uplift humans.

You want neutral good? That's Keine.

>> No.11752046

>>11752044
Remilia? She's a vampire. I guess that counts as a western 'youkai'.

>> No.11752044

>>11752038
Mentally, they're still human...ish.

Could Remy be classified as a human turned Youk?

>> No.11752048

>>11752046
Well, vampires were usually humans in their past life...

>> No.11752053

>>11752044
She was human long ago, but she probably does not remember. She was turned when she was too young.

I doubt she even remembers the face of her parents. If the dates are right, she was born when the black death was finishing its scouring through Europe.

>> No.11752062

Seiga is Chaotic Evil? wat?

>> No.11752067

>>11752062
She believes is acceptable to enter people's home, steal their valuables, then leave lesser value garbage in their place.

She also performs Necromancy.

>> No.11752075

>>11752067
That's evil, and greedy, but how it's chaotic? It's obviously driven by her desires, in no way chaotic.

>> No.11752074

>>11752062
I think she's neutral evil. Wasn't Chaotic Evil is something you can't reason with when doing evil things. Like Flandre?

>> No.11752076

dnd alignment a shit.

That being said most touhou characters sit at neutral or chaotic neutral because they really don't base their actions on morals or are defined by their worldview.

>> No.11752077

>>11752074
>Like flandre

Holy shit this thread has gone full retard and back.

>> No.11752098

>>11752077

One person said something you don't like buddy calm down. It's not the thread's fault.

What alignment would you say Flan is?

>> No.11752099

>>11752074
Flandre would be chaotic autistic

>> No.11752152

>>11752098
see >>11752099

>> No.11752666

>>11752008
Yes, she is. She has her post, takes it seriously and does her work to the best of her abilities. And her work tends to be in law enforcement, too.

>>11752098
It's not one person, there would be no problem if it was just one person. It's an extremely common misconception among people who are above reading source materials.

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>> No.11753090

>>11751965
>Yuuka
>>Not CE

Yeah, that does not compute.

>> No.11753111

>>11753063
That's pretty good, but I'd argue that Youmu is Lawful Neutral, and Reimu is Lawful Good.

>> No.11753127

>>11753111
>I'd argue that Youmu is Lawful Neutral

Obviously, and between this, good Marisa, chaotic Yukari, good old Lunarian hate and Okuu anywhere but true neutral, the entire grid is completely fucked up.

>> No.11753131

Lawful Good - Keine Kamishirasawa
Neutral Good - Reimu Hakurei
Chaotic Good - Marisa Kirisame

Lawful Neutral - Shikieiki Yamaxanadu
True Neutral - Komachi Onozuka
Chaotic Neutral - Utsuho Reiuji

Lawful Evil - Remilia Scarlet
Neutral Evil - Saigyou Ayakashi
Chaotic Evil - Seija Kijin


People don't realize that Utsuho was just lost in her personal desire. It wasn't that she wanted to hurt people, but didn't care if people got hurt because she was getting her way. Seija however operates perpendicular to logic because her nature is invertation. She knowingly brings harm because she thinks it is good.

And anyone who thinks there's a neutral evil in Touhou apart from the Ayakashi doesn't actually understand the Neutral Evil alignment. Maybe Kisume if you take her profile to heart.

>> No.11753141

>>11753090
She just wants to be left alone in her flower field.

She doesn't go out of her way to kill people if they don't disturb her.

>> No.11753145

>>11753127
Marisa has been shown to act kindly towards others, only really takes books, and does what she thinks is right, sometimes.
Lunarian society is pretty fucked up, so the Lunarbitches being evil isn't much of a stretch either.

I'll give you Yukari, and you could make a good argument for Okuu.

>>11753131
Switch Keine and Reimu. Also, I don't think Remilia could really qualify as Lawful. She does as she pleases, and doesn't seem to have a code of conduct or any rules that she follows. I'd say she's more Neutral Evil than Lawful.

>> No.11753156

>>11753145

All vampires are ultimately lawful. They don't cause chaos as they wish or drink from the blood of everyone they see, they abide by their contract and have fun every few years in exchange for living peacefully with humans. Flandre might not be this way by choice, but Remilia has her reined in at any rate, so she ends up lawful too.

A neutral evil vampire would not abide and simply devour as many mortals as they can, because murder for profit and pleasure is what a neutral evil being is driven towards and they know no restraint.

>> No.11753153

I'm the most evil person in the world!

>> No.11753178

>>11753156
That's arguable. A neutral evil character can have self restraint if it benefits them, and eating all the humans she can would make her more enemies than it's worth. Besides, she's a light eater, and if she's the vampire who was behind the vampire incident, she gets all the humans she could want regardless.

You are right about Flandre not being chaotic, since she does listen to her sister, and usually follows the rules her sister sets.

>> No.11753206

>>11753178

Neutral evils hold no respect for the meaning or spirit of the law, only their own benefit and pleasure. There's no indication that Remilia behaves this way, she's mildly impulsive and childish for her age but she's not utterly self-serving or subversive. She lives in harmony with humans and throws parties.

For the sharpest contrast, the Saigyou Ayakashi lures humans to slaughter because it is evil and eats souls. A neutral evil doesn't "have" to be an obvious threat, but there's no indication that Remilia is a heartless murderess and she hasn't acted unlawful in any way.

>> No.11753225

>>11753206
Maybe. It's kind of hard to tell with the way Zun writes, and her chaotic behavior could be explained away with her being childish.

I do think that we can find a real touhou for that Neutral Evil spot, though.
Perhaps Medicine? Or Kisume, like you said. I'm not a big fan of using Ayakashi just because it's not really much of a character.

>> No.11753237

>>11753145
Marisa is acting like a colossal cunt 90% of the time, it's impossible to miss it. I guess she can take breaks from that, and I wouldn't insist if the discussion was evil versus neutral, but claiming she's good is, like, do you even Touhou?

Lunarian society may be fucked up, but all the Watatsukis are ever shown doing is defending it from an outside threat. There isn't even anything to stretch here, they have a total of zero evil acts to their name (possessing weapons of mass destruction isn't one), and have shown quite a bit of good will during their screen time.

>> No.11753262

>>11753063
>>11751896
Shikieiki is Lawful Good

Secondary shit don't know anything about her.

>> No.11753274

>>11753262
Shikieiki is Lawful Neutral.

She canonically admonished Yuuka because she was growing soft as a Youkai. She's all for everybody achieving their true purpose, and if that purpose is killing shit and raping children, and you don't rape enough children, she'll be disappointed.

>> No.11753293

>>11753274
Good =/= following your morality.

She's a literal force of law, and she acts with well-being of others in mind. She just has a different idea of what said well-being is - but wouldn't you, if death was only a transition and you knew exactly people are going to be judged for after it?

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/jp/ pls, do not catch the alignment bug. /tg/ is only just starting to get over it except for a couple retards, don't you start now

Alignments are dumb and I don't like them!

>> No.11753363

>>11753333
They're pretty cool but if we were to make things right, they should be either expanded or some things should be changed. It's not like you can put every single kind of life motivation inside 9 classifications.

>> No.11753434

>>11753363
Easy, add another dimension: Creation/destruction!

>> No.11753437

>>11753434
What if you want to destroy, so you can create later when there's nothing left?

>> No.11753442

>>11753437
What if you want to create chaos, so that you can craft it into your own order?

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>>11751910
Lawful Good people don't lie

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