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>> No.11695109
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11695109

first for the fleet's idol

>> No.11695110

Which kanmusu's secretary voice do you like the most?
Goya's umi no naka line can cheer me up even in the shittiest mood.
It's just so cheerful.

>> No.11695117
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>> No.11695119
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>>11695117
Rest in pieces

>> No.11695127

>>11695110
Imuya's and Goya's lines, I really like their secretary lines and lines in general.

>> No.11695130

>>11695110
I love Naganami's voice.
That little growling sound she makes before saying "魚雷は残しておいてよ" is so perfect.

>> No.11695135

>>11695110
Atago, man. That silly little PAN PA-KA-PAAAAN cheer makes everything better. Doesn't hurt that I use her all the time so I have an excuse to have her as secretary often.

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>>11695110
司令官、慣れてくれた? イ・ム・ヤ、だよ?

>> No.11695145

>>11695110
Imuya is love. There's a nicovideo MAD which is just made out of her dialogue set to music and I have it on all the time. I like Kikuzuki as well.

But for idling Chitose is one of the most calming. "Are you busy? That's fine. Take things at your own pace."

>> No.11695158

Do you not lurk the thread, OP?
http://kancolle-anime.jp/

>> No.11695162

>>11695158
Thread's 1200 posts long, you can't blame anyone for not reading the whole thing.

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>>11695158
I forgot to put it in the OP, my bad.
Well, at least people can find it now in the first few posts

>> No.11695178

>>11695173
Anime confirmed for shit.
Not that it hasn't been confirmed thousands of times already.

>> No.11695175

>>11695145
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22119926

Imuya's the best secretary ever

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>>11695175
I would eat her curry every day.

>> No.11695192

>>11695187
Curry butt?

>> No.11695196
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>>11695192
pls no

>> No.11695200

>>11695178
>>11695173

I liked noucome and ikamusume, based on the studio it will be good but they still havent announced the director which is kind of the most important part we need to know before confirming it as shit

>> No.11695197
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Destroyer team ready, time for some light cruisers.
It is really easy to train them at 5-1 sub node, with 1080 exp per run and infinite fatigue it took me only some hours to get the last 10 levels even for Bep,
it surprised me no one ever mentions this place.

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>>11695187
I want to eat curry together with her every day

>> No.11695203

>>11695197
Jesus your resources.

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I can take on 2-4 with this fleet, r-right?

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Yes.

>> No.11695209

>>11695206
Nice craft.

>> No.11695211

>>11695197
Holy shit, what happened to your resources?

>> No.11695213

>>11695204
No.
You're going to get fucked up.

>> No.11695214

>>11695203
>>11695211
I really want to stack them up for the event, but whenever I get 1500 bauxite I feel it's finally Shoukaku time and spend them all.

>> No.11695215

>>11695197
You're the first admiral I've seen at that level to be that poor in resources

>> No.11695217

>>11695200
Yeah. Animation-wise they're pretty decent, so as long as there aren't too many serious fight scenes, the studio itself will do fine. Now to wait for news on who's directing it.

>> No.11695218

The maint is today right?
Really hope Kuma gets the remodel instead of Tama or Kiso

>> No.11695222

>>11695204
I'm going to be honest here: the answer is technically yes, realistically unlikely.

The big deal with 2-4 is that you need a durable fleet, because you WILL get hit along the way to the boss, and you need a LOT of firepower to stomp boss, especially if you get the flagship/multiple elites/normal BB layout (like I did). That's why people normally say 4bb2cv; they have fantastic firepower and shittons of armor/hp.

However. Since most of your ships are good at night battle, you CAN still pull out a win if you get lucky on the way there, don't get hit too hard by the boss node ships (good luck with that), and shitwreck them in night battle. It'll be close but you COULD do it.

I'd say give it a try or two, see how things go, and unless you get lucky, prepare to either sub cheese it or get through it the same way everyone else did. It really only takes a few days of prep at worst so don't go crazy, though.

>> No.11695220

>>11695215
I can still get them back to 20-30k before christmas event if it doesn't start tomorrow.

>> No.11695221

>>11695214
How do you even get that low? Do you just completely ignore all dailies and expeditions?

>> No.11695225

>>11695221
I finished 3-4, 4-4, 5-1 and 5-2 last week, that took all my oil and bauxite.

>> No.11695226

>>11695110
I play the game on mute.

>> No.11695228

>>11695222
With everyone complaining about 2-4, I still can't believe I cleared it on my first try with the 4bb2cv and headed straight for the boss node from the south.

>> No.11695230

>>11695226
You don't even leave the voice sound on? What a waste.

>> No.11695237

How useless can Mutsu be? She does nothing but miss almost every single hit every single sortie/pvp I wonder why I even still bother using her when at least even my Kongou overkills that one 11hp destroyer from preemptives but hey, it's something.

>> No.11695239

>>11695110
Nenohi.
I'm not even kidding. I fucking love that pun too.

>> No.11695240

>>11695239
Every day is nenohi day

>> No.11695241

>>11695237
Five luck at work

>> No.11695244

Any tips for 3-4? I've been doing 4BB2CV line ahead (line abreast on the node before the boss), but I can't fucking get to the boss without eating massive damage beforehand, and the repair/refuel costs are killing me

>> No.11695242

>>11695237
Dont bully her, its not her fault that she has 3 luck

>> No.11695243

Is there any evidence to back the claim that flagship factors into item crafts, or did someone just make that up?

>> No.11695245

>>11695237
Nagato used to miss almost every hit but she got a lot better after remodel and after giving her a 15.5cm yellow and AP ammo for accuracy

>> No.11695248

>>11695241
>>11695242
I used to think luck does nothing because even my average luck DDs perform significantly better than Yukikaze or Shigure K2. I still love using Shigure for some reason though. I'm suddenly convinced it may be doing something after all.

>>11695245
I equip Mutsu with AP ammo and a type 33 radar, and she's still doing nothing but eating crits and missing. At this point I'm still glad I don't use her for major sorties, her supply and repair costs would be causing a major dent to my resources.

>> No.11695249

>>11695237
With Nagato and Mutsu, along with all other BBs except for Naval Hotel at level 70~75, Mutsu doesn't miss more than the others with the same equipment. Are you comparing her to BBs of same level?

>> No.11695250

>>11695244
2CV 2BB 2CLT, vertical all day, every day and continue on orange.
Install hammer on Kitaooi and continue if they are red on the node before the boss.

>> No.11695254

Which level is the best for grinding ships without using CVs (don't want to waste bauxite)?
And what do you think we should be grinding for the next event? I'm guessing CL/DDs won't be as useful unless they do night battles again.

>> No.11695255

>>11695206

やりました。

>> No.11695256

>>11695249
If I compare her with my Haruna, Haruna still performs better than Mutsu does and all my Kongous are equipped with a Type 21 and Sanshiki by default.

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>>11695240
>>11695239
I would post the ASCII but I can't find it.

>> No.11695260

>>11695254
They'll probably make it so that if you want the short path to the boss you have to use Akebono, Nenohi, and Naka chan.

>> No.11695269

>>11695254
3-2
you don't need CVs at all. CLT/CLT/BB/SS + anything will rarely go to the torpedo phase. you don't even really need the CLTs if you can rely on the other ships to take something down.

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>>11695260
Are you implying something, you shitty admiral?

>> No.11695276

>>11695256
I guess she doesn't like you. It also sounds like you're a low level teitoku with low level kanmusu. You'll see where Nagato-class comes handy once flagship BBs start popping out everywhere.

>> No.11695278

Need translator for this one
http://akankore.doorblog.jp/archives/34779935.html

>>11695110
Noshiro's confused line is great.

>> No.11695280

>>11695276
I'm HQ lvl79 with main fleet of average 75, I feel weak when compared to you people.

>> No.11695281

>>11695243

Try crafting 10 airplanes with a carrier as your flagship.

Now try the exact same recipe with a destroyer as your flagship.

>> No.11695288

>>11695280
Different anon here. What level is your Mucchan?

>> No.11695292

>>11695288
Sadly, only level 31. It would be better if she could actually get the MVP and leveled faster, but her terrible performance so far made me not even include her into sorties and I'm only leveling her with PvP.

I even only send her to PvP with lvl10~20 CAs that I neglected levelling and she couldn't score MVP. Mutsu must hate me, a lot.

>> No.11695294

>>11695278
Highlights from the first one:

- Next big event might make people actually worry about running out of bauxite (they imply later it might be based off of Midway)

- Hidden parameters separate light and heavy cruisers, so for example light cruisers can't fully utilize 20.3cm guns even though they can equip them.

-The want to make new systems where, for example, the boss moves around the map.

-Internal differences exist between main gun and auxiliary gun slots.

-Marriage already internally implemented, removes level cap

-For Midway event, enemy might get VT信管 (some kind of weapon I think)
Armored carrier Taihou will be craftable in large ship construction as a counter

-Aircraft resources will be proportional to quality soon

>> No.11695297

>>11695294
>new systems where, for example, the boss moves around the map.
randomly, of course. not that it matters because the compass is completely random too!

>> No.11695300

>>11695294
>removes level cap
Wait, seriously?

>> No.11695303

>>11695294
>Marriage already internally implemented, removes level cap
So the stat caps for other stats will also be removed I'm assuming?

>Aircraft resources will be proportional to quality soon
Well shit.

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The softest.

>> No.11695307

>>11695300
- ケッコンカッコカリはシステム的にはレベル上限の開放

Not that it really matters, the experience requirement increasing exponentially is enough of a level cap

>> No.11695308

>>11695294
>Next big event might make people actually worry about running out of bauxite
Fuck that
>removes level cap
Wait what. Also, is marriage a one-time thing only? What will happen if you unmarry a ship above level 99?

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I want to murder this guy. It's on purpose.

>> No.11695310

>>11695294
Time to hate bauxite very soon?

>> No.11695316

>>11695309
well, easy sparkle for one expedition at least

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>>11695309
Tell me about it.

>> No.11695318

>>11695307
So one married ship girl can go beyond level 99? I think I'll have hard time deciding which ship will be the one.

>> No.11695320

>>11695294
It's the misleadingly-named "variable-time fuse", actually the proximity fuse that allowed Allied warships to shoot down kamikaze aircraft with incredible efficiency.

>Hidden parameters separate light and heavy cruisers, so for example light cruisers can't fully utilize 20.3cm guns even though they can equip them.
So is there really a reason to equip Tenryuu with the 14 cm gun that she actually had? Exciting.

>> No.11695323

>>11695204
>Arantheus
I've seen you somewhere else. Drawfag?

>> No.11695328

>>11695294
>-Marriage already internally implemented, removes level cap
Yandere torpedo is ready for her 100 evasion. Hopefully the current stat caps are just result of the level cap and not hard-capped.

> VT信管
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximity_fuze
Well shit. The enemy suddenly became more devastating.

> Midway
My Nagumo-kantai is ready for their redemption.

>> No.11695331

>>11695309
>>11695317
Would you guys rather fight this for easy sparkles or the enemy's main fleet where you might get destroyed and defeated?

>> No.11695332

>>11695294
>forcing everyone to make tactical marriages based on which ship benefits the most

Christmas ruined.

>> No.11695334

>>11695308
What if you have to scrap her to divorce?

>> No.11695336

>>11695332
Don't marry any and live with your ship harem.

>> No.11695337

>>11695331
I'll take the exp, thanks. pvp sparkles don't last long anyway.

>> No.11695339

>>11695334
Fucking nope.

>> No.11695340

>>11695332
>not marrying your waifu

i feel sorry for anyone who would actually do that. i personally beat off to my ships, not my admiral rank.

>> No.11695341

>>11695332
you don't even now if it does anything to their stats yet.

>> No.11695343

>>11695332
You can't say you love one ship when you only like her stats.

>> No.11695344

>>11695341
Even if it does, the exp requirement would probably be just insane if you were to try to get them to a point where they had any real advantage over level 99 versions of themselves

>> No.11695346

>>11695309
>>11695317
level 1 in first two slots and lvl80s consisting of at least 1 CLT, 2 CV and 1 BB at least is way worse if you ask me.

>> No.11695348

Has anyone else been getting a ton of connection errors today? I've been playing for months and haven't had this problem before, think I'm on Tali Tali.

>> No.11695349

>>11695332
>>11695341
I dont want stats, all I want from marriage is making the ship you marry unsinkable.
It wont break the game and it would be a nice reward for getting your waifu to level 99

>> No.11695351

>>11695294
>For Midway event, enemy might get VT信管 (some kind of weapon I think)
>Armored carrier Taihou will be craftable in large ship construction as a counter
In other words, FUCKING NOTHING.

>> No.11695356 [DELETED] 

>>11695328
>VT信管 or Proximity fuze
So whose the enemy?

>> No.11695358

>>11695294
>Hidden parameters separate light and heavy cruisers, so for example light cruisers can't fully utilize 20.3cm guns even though they can equip them.
I hope it doesn't apply to the 15.5cm guns so ktkm and ooi will still be god tier

>> No.11695363

>>11695358
15.5cm guns were used on CLs like Mogami (when she was still a CL).

>> No.11695364

>>11695358
sounds to me like that is already in the game

>> No.11695367

>>11695294
>Internal differences exist between main gun and auxiliary gun slots.
Wait, so there's a difference if you put one main gun on the second slot and an auxiliary on the first?

>> No.11695368

>>11695363
Whoops, by that I meant the yellow ones, not the red ones.

>> No.11695371

I fucking want Shoukaku so bad. I have 4 Zuikaku now, all from crafts. I get my hopes up every time I see that 6 hour timer and get let down every time. Will she ever show up?

>> No.11695373

>>11695368
Almost the same thing if I'm not mistaken.

>>11695364
>>11695367
Probably something that we know in a way or another, like placement of AA guns.

>> No.11695374

>>11695371
no

>> No.11695377

>>11695250
S'd it on my 2nd try. Thanks m80.

>> No.11695392

>>11695368
They're the same guns.

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>>11695197
>>11695371
I am holding back on crafting until the change from large ship comes into effect. If the large ship list is BB, CV and new drops, then it would make more sense to do that than to muddle around with the CV formula...

That's how I feel atm. It's been really tempting for me to go craft, but I can't make myself do it lately.

>> No.11695403

>>11695398
What ships are you missing at that level?

>> No.11695405

How about KaiMarriage? Of course, Mogami and Hiei will wear tux instead of gown.

>> No.11695406

>>11695403
Both crane sisters, Nagato, zuihou, Yamato (joined after that event,) Agano, drop only rare DDs except Makigumo.

>> No.11695407

>>11695332
You aren't forced to do anything. I'm going to have a level 140 Kikuzuki and you can't stop me.

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>>11695332

I finally stopped playing the new fire emblem and now this

>> No.11695411

>>11695407
Marry the protagonist Fubuki!

>> No.11695412

>>11695398
Damn, it would take me weeks to get this bauxite level.

>> No.11695431

>>11695323
Yes

>> No.11695452

How do I get more furniture tokens?

>> No.11695457

>>11695452
Hate money/love your ships.

>> No.11695455

Kaga is of the modest ships. I'd even say she's least lewd of them all. Yet it feels so good to sexualize her. And her doujins are glorious too.

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>>11695455
Citing Jonathan B. Parshall on Kaga:
>All in all, Kaga had an appealing, homey dumpiness about her.

>> No.11695473

>>11695452
Right now I think there's only one quest that has one as reward. All the others have to be bought with real money

>> No.11695484

>>11695082
I demand that you stop spreading info about your game by posting really sexy lolis. I'm overloaded right now with too many games to play. I can't also play this one.

For the love of god, please

>> No.11695491

>>11695466
Wait, how do you know whether Parshall or Tully is responsible for the beautiful prose describing the Nagumo-kantai's beauties?

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>>11695484
Okay anon, just for you

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>> No.11695508
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All my wants. Do we know more about this fig?

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>>11695222
would this work?
Still can't believe I got Hiei/Kongou/Kirishima as drops in less than a week.

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>>11695484
You can't say no to nanodesu

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Well, I don't even know why I tried or hoped.

>> No.11695512

>>11695509
Probably, if you have 35.6cm and above equipped in all slots of your Kongous and full on torp bombers in both your carriers.

>> No.11695517

>>11695509
That should be enough, though you need to max those stats first, and if that's not enough, remodel. Also, open that 4th fleet.

>> No.11695523

>>11695509
Sorry Hiyou, but you are not a CV.
Also, get them to 5 stars at least after remodeling.

>> No.11695530

>>11695517
I want to, but I don't have Haguro to complete the quest that would activate the 4th fleet quest.
I did try 2-4 once and barely lost.

>>11695523
Wish I could replace her, but she's the next best thing next to Akagi that I have at the moment. I can't craft ships because I am hurting for fuel.

>> No.11695532

What's a good way to make ships sparkle? I've heard beating 1-1 solo makes them sparkle, but whenever I do that they usually take some damage, and have to spend an hour on the repair dock (even my lvl 30 remodeled BBs) Any other ways?

>> No.11695537

>>11695532
1-1 but not solo, add some level 1 dd that you would scrap anyways.

>> No.11695539

>>11695532
You're not supposed to run them solo, run them with a <lv10 sub or two/three destroyers to eat enemy fire

>> No.11695540

>>11695532
Damage doesn't affect expedition result.

>> No.11695551

>>11695532
You can also find an easy PvP opponent.

>> No.11695559
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Is this a good team for 2-4?

>> No.11695560

>>11695532
getting at least 2 consecutive MVPs does usually the trick. Bring an fodder DD or two with you on 1-1 if you don't want to waste time on repair

>> No.11695565

>>11695551
pvp is fine for sortie sparkles, but wears off after a single expedition.

1-1 sparkles can last 2 or 3 expeditions.

>> No.11695576

>>11695559
Lose the Iku, she'll receive so much focus fire you'll end up sinking her by the time you get to the boss or retreating and wasting all those fuel and ammo for nothing.

>> No.11695585

>>11695576
Alright. The next best ships I have are a level 24 4-star Ryuujuu and a level 30 3-star Furutaka. Which should I use?

>> No.11695587

>>11695585
There's some fun in figuring this out on one's own.

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>>11695559
>>11695509

if it helps, this is what I used to beat 2-4 for the first time. The aviation battleships also had planes equipped.

>> No.11695613

>>11695509
Unlock your 4th fleet already.

>> No.11695614

>>11695576
>>11695559

alternatively, drop everything BUT the Iku, submarine cheesing aparently works on 2-4, though I've never tried it myself.

>> No.11695615

>>11695611
That's got to be one of the most pathetic screenshots and accomplishments I have ever seen.

>> No.11695616

>>11695614
I did it with Iku. Takes some tries though.

>> No.11695619

>>11695615

I was absolutely desperate after being stuck on that map for about a week or two, ANY victory was enough for me.

>> No.11695618

>>11695614
Eeeeh, not a fan of that sub cheesing thing when it's much more reliable to bruteforce.

>> No.11695624
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11695624

>>11695615
There's lots of ways to do 2-4. This is mine. B rank.

>> No.11695628 [DELETED] 

>>11695615
Lel, what a loser :D Us based alpha bros are much better at playing this purely luck based subpar japanese facebook game about sexualized ships!

>> No.11695629

>>11695615
Not everyone can be cool and sub cheese with the Goya that they got on their first rare destroyer attempt.

>> No.11695632

What about 5-3 sub cheesing?
When I unlocked the map, I sent a level 10 Imuya alone to look around and got to the boss with her,
but since then I get diverted all the time with 4 subs.

>> No.11695636

>>11695628
I think it's trying to speak English, but I just can't understand it.

>> No.11695652

So I got Yukikaze, but she isn't cute like Shimakaze. Don't know how to feel.

>> No.11695657

>>11695632
Same. I've tried it with 4 subs a bunch of times but I always get sent to the deadend south of the boss node.

>> No.11695678
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11695678

>>11695110
>2002+11
>Not Kuma secretary master race, kuma

Kuma pls

>> No.11695690
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11695690

>>11695652
The beaver is not cute?

>> No.11695694

ALL THESE BEARS
ALL THESE CATS
NO KISO

>> No.11695732

Maintenance in 1hour right?

>> No.11695793

>>11695690
Was beaver meme made for people without Yukikaze to feel better about not having it?

>> No.11695804

>>11695793
More like people who got her, and are disappointed in getting the worst small woodland creature.

>> No.11695836

>>11695294
So what do we actually put in our CL
There isnt enough red 15.2 enough to go around?

>> No.11695863

>>11695804
Beaver's are the second best woodland creature after Otters and above Bears.

>> No.11695918

oh hi there cat

>> No.11695923

What's better a Mogami or Seaplane Tender?

>> No.11695932

>>11695918
I sent a 20 min expedition at 10:40 and thought I wouldn't be able to send it again later because of the update. At least they don't close everything at exactly 11:00.

>> No.11695931

>>11695923
Seaplane tenders have absurdly low stat caps if you refuse to carrierize them. The only decent thing about them is that you can get a preemptive torpedo strike off.

>> No.11695945

>>11695923
SPT is useless. Get them to 15, put blue planes on them and lvl them.

>> No.11695968

From Twitter:
本メンテナンスに伴うアップデートで、北方に展開した第5艦隊所属の軽巡1隻のさらなる改装(改造)などの実装などを予定しています。

Which light cruiser will be getting the K2?

>> No.11695971

>>11695968
Kiso.

or Tama.

>> No.11695980

>>11695968
I've seen a ton of people running Kiso when I PvP the last few days, so I assume its her.

>> No.11695984

I forgot about the maintenance... Again.

>> No.11695986

>>11695968
Sendai

>> No.11695989

>>11695968
TAMA PLEASE
Didnt get a Kiso drop for the past few days.

>> No.11695992

>>11695989

How do you not have a Kiso yet? She's one of those ships you get really early on.

And if you barely started not having Kiso is the least of your problems.

>> No.11695993

>>11695971
>>11695980

Just had to use my Kisos for food.

>> No.11695995

>>11695989
I got like 6 or 7 just today while grinding and trying to get a Kaga at 4-1.

>> No.11695996

Is it maintenance time? I suddenly get errors.

>> No.11695998

>>11695993

Don't tell me you got rid of your original Kiso. Why would you even?

>> No.11696000

>>11695992
She's really common so a lot of people probably scrapped her so they could have extra space.

>> No.11696001

>>11695996

read the god damn thread

>> No.11696002

>>11695996
No, you've just been banned from the game.

>> No.11696003

>>11695992
>>11695995
I dont have space.
It is hard having 100slots when the kanmusudex has up to unique 150 entries.
Someone gotta go.

>> No.11696006

>>11695998

I was in a phase in my admiral life where I thought CLs sucked.

Also, I needed ship space.

>> No.11696008

>>11696003
>>11696006

You can't even put down $5 for your daughters? I bet you still have 2 repair docks.

>> No.11696014

>>11696008
Keeping unique ships on 110 slots is a pain and actually impossible if you're rolling in rare ships.

Before you can blink you'll be out 35 dollars for two docks and two expansions.

>> No.11696013

>>11696008
>repair docks
Why would I buy them when I have 600buckets?
I would if they actually let me register my gaijin card.

>> No.11696021

>>11696013
Have you tried contacting your bank/card issuing authority to inform them that you'd like to make some overseas transactions? I've had to do that in several instances with various websites that are hosted overseas.

>> No.11696025

Think of most videogames, you'll play them for a few hours and then they'll be gone, but this you've been playing for dozens of hours, spending $5 is pretty justified in my opinion, simply see it as actually buying the game.

>> No.11696031

>>11696021
I am pretty sure my card is fine.
amiami and 1999.co.jp all works and they billed me 1yen for confirmation when I registered my card. I might try the jp webmoney method if they add more girls later without upgrading our current limit.

>> No.11696039

>>11696025
That sort of mentality has led me astray far too often.
I'm glad I can't register my card since I don't have to deal with the regret of e-purchasing.

>> No.11696128

I wonder what the rewards will be this time.

>> No.11696136

Aargh, the stupid feeling where you forgot to set long expeditions before it went down for maintenance bugs me.

>> No.11696144

been busy all day and finally get home and servers are down and i haven't done anything with my girls all day ugh so much wasted time

>> No.11696154

>>11696150
Don't worry, they are probably just like this one >>11695309

>> No.11696150

Welp, I guess I won't be getting that PVP daily quest done then

>> No.11696152

>>>/twitter/

>> No.11696167

If i f5 every ten seconds, that'll make the maintenance get over faster, right?

>> No.11696170

>>11696167
Yes, you'll never have to worry about maintenance ever again.

>> No.11696172

>>11696167
If I were you I would F5 every three seconds.

>> No.11696193

>>11696172
>>11696170
Sounds like a great deal, i'll set the macro to zero seconds repeat.

>> No.11696240 [DELETED] 

I've got a problem, Kancolleviewer is no longer working for me. It just takes me to the DMM restricted page and won't accept my API link.

>> No.11696245

>>11696240

There's maintenance right now

>> No.11696248
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>>11695309
Me too.

>> No.11696247

>>11696245
Yeah, I realized how retarded I was about 5-10 seconds after I posted that.

>> No.11696272

>>11696248
I would still claim my S rank nevertheless. Frankly, I want that S rank finish, and if his trolling way helps me do this more easily, than I will bite.

>> No.11696283

>>11696248
I just got 0exp off a lvl1 musashi with my subs.
Fucking faggots.

>> No.11696284

>>11696283
Sparkle! You lost out on 1-2k xp for mvp flagship though.

>> No.11696299

So, what ships and levels would you say I should stockpile for the event? I've got both torp cruisers at around level 30, a level 50 and level 45 BB, some remodeled CAs and a few CVs.

>> No.11696302

>>11696299
2 of each class to 60, you better get started now

>> No.11696304

>>11695197
5-1-A can spawn a battleship, isn't that a bit of a problem? Or do you just reload if you go that way?

>> No.11696307

>>11696299
All the Kuma class.
Stockpile buckets. 150 or so.
Resource count should be around 15k min for all types. Ideally 30k+

Torp cruisers need to be Lvl50 if possible.
Remodel should be done on your BBs.
Fully modernize them.

>> No.11696310

>>11696304
It is. I have been beaten back by that 1 golden BB before. I actually find 5-1 more difficult than 4-4 and 5-2.

>> No.11696313 [DELETED] 

>>11696307
>150 or so.

He's going to need more then that. Way more.

>> No.11696319

>>11696307
>150 or so.

He's going to need more than that. Way more.

Unless this event is going to be a little easier than the last one.

>> No.11696321

>>11696319
>Unless this event is going to be a little easier than the last one
It better be, I don't want to suffer again, not during Christmas.

>> No.11696323

>>11696319
Did they already confirm the next Christmas event will be an easy one? Of course, devs' viewpoint is different than players' one.

>> No.11696324

>>11696319
150 is only enough for E4 in itself, or E5, that's with replenishing bucket through expedition 2 running...

>> No.11696325

>>11696321
I-401 drop only on last map boss node and you only have a week to get her.
Its going to be Yahagi v2

>> No.11696329

>>11696325
Please no.

>> No.11696331

>>11695197
Actually 5-2 is the best place to train after 3-2.
You are guarantee 2 easy node.
The 2gold CA in the first node always miss, 2nd node is easy if you bring a bunch of sub killing machine. You can also get free bauxite and easy transport ships if you are lucky enough to avoid node G

>> No.11696335

>>11696325
And let me guess... you have to feed her with Takao to modernize her.

>> No.11696348

I hope in the next event, we can get another try at getting Iku, Hachi, Agano, Noshiro, Musashi and Yamato...

>> No.11696354

>>11696348

The last event didn't even have Yamato as an anything. What makes you think Musashi will be in this one?

Though, I'm also hoping for that as well.

>> No.11696357

>>11696354
>>11696348
Yamato and Musashi by large ship construction. I don't think Musashi is going to be craftable that soon though.

>> No.11696360

>>11696348
Yamato and Musashi will be part of the large crafting update, so I kind of doubt they'd also make them drops in the mini-event.

>> No.11696361

>>11696325
I-401 will definitely be the first holo sub.
She will either be an event clear reward or holo drop on boss node only with the latter being more likely.

>> No.11696363

>>11696361
How many admirels will sink her

>> No.11696369

>>11696360
>large ship construction
Oh fuck me, RNG is going to buttrape us so hard on this

>> No.11696373

In the spring event, Shoukaku was the clear reward and you needed to farm for her sister. The devs dont like to give free handout.

>> No.11696377

>>11696369
What if instead of normal gatcha-like crafting, you have to collect certain parts from the whole map? Of course, those parts are on-sale in item shop.

>> No.11696385

>>11696377
>>11696369
It's already said that large craft is about the new ships and the capital ships. Although it's making me think that the Kongous and the Fusous might be the Naka of large ship.

>> No.11696391

>>11696385
Can't wait for 99% Yamashiro and 1% Yamato success rate.

>> No.11696394

>>11696385
Maybe I can finally get Nagato this way?!

>> No.11696399

Is there a point in participating in the event if you've just started? My resource limit is at 7k, and all my ships are at around lvl15, except a Kongou Kai, but posts here tell me that's far from enough.

>> No.11696400

>>11696399
Yes. Normally, the first two maps are perfectly doable for beginners.

>> No.11696404

>>11696400
Did they mention it'll be 4-area event, just like last Fall? I don't remember mention about that part.

>> No.11696414

This event will probably be small and easier than the last one. I remember reading about that somewhere.

>> No.11696426

>>11696399
Depend on how hardcore you are.
You can clear 2-4 in like a week and then after that everything will go fast. With 4th fleet unlock you shouldnt have any deficit in resources as well unless you do hardcore crafting.

>> No.11696448

The bauxite fix is good nerf on CV/CVL if I am reading it right. Makes me feel bad for trying CV recipes daily for crane sisters now for the past few weeks with no success.

>> No.11696450

>>11696394
I haven't got Mutso or Nagato and I'm level 80 already

I suppose this large ship construction is my last hope since 400/100/600/30 never fails to disappoint me

>> No.11696459

>>11696426
>You can clear 2-4 in like a week
I only have one BB and one CV, so I don't think that's viable.
>4th fleet
I'm only missing Hashigara, so I'm simply grinding 2-1 right now.

>> No.11696464

>>11696450
Grind 3-3-A. I did it for two days and got Maikaze, Mutsu, and multiple Imuya.

Now if only getting Nagato was as easy.

>> No.11696484

>>11696464
Ehhh I can't even get past that 3-2 bullshit

I'm currently working on world 4 instead

>> No.11696487

>>11696459
>Hashigara
wot

>> No.11696497

>>11696448
they have to be very careful in how much they increase bauxite useage for using holo planes.

i wouldn't mind an increase for having holo planes shot down, but an increase just for using holo planes could easily cripple the class because bauxite generation is so slow and they need a full stack of holo to be useful in places like 3-4 and world 5.

that and it goes completely counter to how every other class works, you dont see BB ammo costs increasing when they equip 46cm guns.

>> No.11696498

>>11696487
It's Ashigara, sorry.

>> No.11696504

>>11696497
>>11696448
I hope it's an update in which they lower the consumption when we use weaker planes instead of increasing it when using good planes.

Hey, I can hope.

>> No.11696510

The upcoming event is the arpeggio crossover event yes? I thought this was only going to be a mini event, so there's no need to stockpile so many resources.

>> No.11696515

>>11696498
Oh whoops, I just realized the horizontal kancolleviewer is using the translation from a week ago. I'll fix that as soon as the game is done from maintenance again

>> No.11696516

>>11696515
Oops, didn't mean to reply to that user

>> No.11696525

>>11696510
Yeah, it's a "petit" event.

>> No.11696523

>>11696510
Not this update. Sometime around Christmas.

>> No.11696543

>>11696515
Thanks!

>> No.11696554

>>11696515
I haven't been following the KV translation very closely--what was the decision on whether or not to keep USN ship class abbreviations next to the ship names?

>> No.11696565

>>11696554
I'm not related to translation team unfortunately, but I think someone mentioned to keep it as it is (i.e. with kanji)

>> No.11696567

Regarding to the Kancolle Viewer, you think we should work together in order to make it in a fullblown English?

I'm willing to contribute.

>> No.11696570

Speaking of KV, is there a way to extend the player window? It's a bit smaller than the game itself,and that annoys me.

>> No.11696578

Are the servers still down?

>> No.11696585

>>11696578
Twitter status hasn't changed

>> No.11696594

>>11696578
One more hour.

>> No.11696599

Seems they could finish the work faster than planned. It could be finished around 4pm JST.

>> No.11696602
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11696602

Haven't seen the maintenance screen for a while now, is this a new fairy?

>> No.11696605

>>11696602
no

>> No.11696606

>>11696599
Wrong, they might go live slightly earlier than 5pm.

>> No.11696614

>>11696606
16:50

>> No.11696628

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        //   ,  /\ .i i V〈
        / /  ∠ム/ ー-V l 「ヽ  今日もE4を抜けれない提督達の阿鼻叫喚の声が心地よいのです。準備が甘いのです
         j v、!●  ● i ' ├'   ・・・ところで司令官さん、そろそろ家を出る時間だと思うのですがお仕事はどうしたのです?
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      / _ ,.イ , `ーゥ  t-!,、_У  
      ´ ' .レ^V´ V_,ィtー〈  「| 「|
           / `央ー'j  \_|:| |:|
          ,/ー、{,_ノ /ー、!  \::::]

>> No.11696629

Has the duration of the event been confirmed?

>> No.11696641
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11696641

So these men are behind the maintenance, what if they messed up the database and the moment you open your account, you have missing ship daughters. What will you do?

>> No.11696639
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11696639

>Maximum amount for large ship construction is 7000
>Kiso
Tama go home.

>> No.11696648

Here comes the update notes.

>> No.11696657

>02▼敵(深海棲艦)空母の被弾後の航空攻撃の修正 ヲ級などの敵(深海棲艦)が、被弾中破~大破後にも航空攻撃を繰り出してくる症状を修正、味方艦娘同様に被弾&大きなダメージ後は航空攻撃が不可能となりました。

Oh they fixed the carriers

>> No.11696661

>>11696657
Not only abyssal ships, they also fixed it for PvP.

>> No.11696663

>>11696657
Same for carriers in pvp as well.
>03▼演習時対抗部隊空母における被弾後の航空攻撃の修正
同様に、演習時において対抗部隊(演習相手部隊)所属の正規空母及び軽空母が、被弾中破~大破後にも航空攻撃を繰り出してくる症状を修正しました。

>> No.11696668

>>11696657
On both Wo-class and PvP it seems

>> No.11696670

>>11696639
Ok. So Akitsu Maru is coming (amphib assault ship really, converted passenger ship that belongs to the army.) It is an autogyro carrier and it is meant for ASW.

Yamato as well as Taiho (armored aircraft carrier) are coming up. Moreover, the large craft allows you to use multiple development material at a time.

Kiso is going to be a torp monster btw.

>> No.11696674

>>11696670
>Kiso is going to be a torp monster btw.
Question is at what level is she going to be a torp monster?

>> No.11696678

>>11696639
Hiei is forever ruined.

>>11696641
does Surface Pro 2 handle kancolle smoothly?

>> No.11696681

>>11696674
Inb4 70.

>> No.11696687

>>11696570
If you are using API link, the english KV fits the game window perfectly.

>>11696567
can you code?

>> No.11696683

>>11696678
I can actually run Kancolle on the much weaker dell venue pro. The game's real lag comes from network connection imo. It's almost as if that the devs really didn't optimize the game to me. That's how I felt from having played the thing on Surface 2 pro as well.

>> No.11696685

>>11696674
I'm putting my money on 50s or later.

>> No.11696686

>>11696681
Please no.

>> No.11696691

04▼OPTION(音量設定)の機能追加
OPTION(音量設定)で「放置」ボイス付艦娘が秘書艦となった場合の同ボイスの再生設定をON/OFFできる機能が追加されました。お好みに合わせてご使用ください。

So anything about volume control?

>> No.11696688

>>11696674
Level 60.

>> No.11696690

>04▼OPTION(音量設定)の機能追加
I didn't ask for this.

>> No.11696695

>>11696691
New option in volume control, you can turn certain lines off like idle ones.

>> No.11696698

05▼編成画面UIの情報強化
提督からのリクエストの多かった、艦隊の「編成画面」において【次回レベルアップまでに必要な経験値】イメージをグラフで艦娘バナー下部に表示するUIを追加実装しました。艦隊の編成&艦娘の育成にご活用ください!
#艦これ

Required EXP point now appears in ship formation management. Neat.

>> No.11696704

>>11696698
Finally. I hate it when I forget how much exp I need to level the new kai2 of the month.

>> No.11696703

>>11696687
I'll give it a try.

What programming language did they used for it?

>> No.11696709
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11696709

So this is Kiso-Kai2?

>> No.11696711
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11696711

>> No.11696713

>>11696698
Oh man, I'm so happy I got her yesterday.

>> No.11696715

>>11696709

Please god let it be. She was my first and favorite CL. I would love this.

>> No.11696717

>>11696709
I want to believe.

>> No.11696716

>>11696715
It is.

>> No.11696721

>>11696709
Oh god, that cape and boots. I was impartial about her, but I'll be leveling one now.

>> No.11696718

>07▼新任務が追加されました。
New formation quests.

>> No.11696722
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11696722

>>11696709
For some reason, first thing I thought of was Captain Harlock.

>> No.11696724

>>11696709
Goddammit another ship I like the design but can't field due to limited slots. I hope her new stats are at least better than Kinugasa's

>> No.11696729

>>11696683
if i'm not paying attention, i wouldn't even notice the connection lag.

>>11696703
C#

here's the offending code: https://github.com/silfumus/KanColleViewer/blob/English/Grabacr07.KanColleWrapper/Models/ShipInfo.cs

what on my mind is create a class that use string in the RawData.api_name and compare it from a csv (or any) file. If it contain matches (e.g 長門改 == 長門改) then it will grab the translated name (Nagato Kai) from the 2nd column.

>> No.11696725

07▼新任務が追加されました。
現在新設中の新サーバ群にちなんだ「編成」系の新任務が、2つ追加されました。

本日のアップデート情報は以上です。
※捕捉:本日実装の軽巡改二は、本日の追加ボイスの実装はありません。今後追加実装予定です。
#艦これ

2 new formation quests, based on new server names. So I guess it'll be related to Northern Campaign.

Also, there's no new voice lines for Kiso-Kai2. Too bad.

>> No.11696728

>>11696721

Don't forget the sabre and new eyepatch.

>>11696722

Looks like I wasn't the only one.

>> No.11696731
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11696731

>>11696709
1minute33sec in mspaint

>> No.11696734

>>11696731

>fix

No.

>> No.11696735

Rabaul is online. Hop in, guys.

>> No.11696736
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11696736

Kiso needs more tits.

>> No.11696742

>>11696736
Who knows, she could be the next Ushio.

>> No.11696739

>>11696725
no new voice today, but she will get more voice lines some time in the future.

>> No.11696747

>>11696735
Ringa online. Anyone know Kiso's remodel lvl?

>> No.11696744

>>11696739
I guess her seiyuu has no time to add some lines, or the devs can't arrange new lines for her

>> No.11696750 [DELETED] 
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11696750

No numbers, but I like it.

>> No.11696751

>>11696747
Lvl65 from what I have read on Futaba.

>> No.11696752
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11696752

Tenryuu will be cool too one day.

>> No.11696756

>nachi
>ashigara
>kiso
>tama
Oh wow, I cant believe I need to actually farm for them

>> No.11696755

>>11696751
Time to nolife then.
5-2 is a lot more efficient than 4-1, isn't it?

>> No.11696766

>>11696756
This is one of those times when I'm glad keep a copy of every ship.

>> No.11696767
File: 434 KB, 580x820, Kiso Kai 2 damaged.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
11696767

>>11696744
either that or they just recently decided to give her a Kai 2

also here is Kiso Kai 2 damage sprite, i think this is the best looking Kai 2 to date.

>> No.11696772

Fuck? 8:00:00 timer?

>> No.11696777
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11696777

That is some terrible torp stat.

>> No.11696774

>>11696767
I don't like her face but the clothing looks good.

>> No.11696775

Oh shit, sanaechan's not working for me anymore now, anyone experiencing same problem?

>> No.11696776

>>11696772
Grats
You just crafted a Yamato

>> No.11696780

>>11696772
Pic or didn't happen. Or alternatively set up your local time to match JST.

>> No.11696781

>>11696772
Come on, just flamethrower it. They're easy to come across.

>> No.11696783

>>11696772
recipe used?

>> No.11696784

>>11696775
Yeah, mine also doesn't work.

>> No.11696787

>え、木曾改二初期装備何もないの?
>5連魚雷
>13号
>25mm三連機銃
So Kiso kai 2 comes with 5 barrel oxy torps.

>> No.11696789

>>11696775
My KancolleViewer is also refusing to accept my API.

>> No.11696790

>>11696777
Is Kiso #146 in the collection? And I actually think the torp stat is balanced for that, it's Ooi/KTKM the ones who are too overpowered.

>> No.11696795

>>11696789
The version of the game has changed, you'll need to wait for the programmer to update his code to reflect the change.

I tried writing a custom viewer for kancolle, every maintenance the version of the game increases.

>> No.11696793

>>11696790
Her asw is goddamn high though.

>> No.11696794

>>11696787
Whats her kai2 lvl?
You can get kitaooi at 50

>> No.11696796

>>11696775
>>11696784
>>11696789
I assume that the modifications they made to stats reporting have affected the information that Sanaechan/KV grabs from the game.

Give it a few days, I'm sure it'll be working again.

>> No.11696797

>>11696777
So lower torpedo stat compared to KitaOoi in exchange for better stats in everything else (especially AA).

>> No.11696799

>>11696797
Oh other than luck.

>> No.11696800

>>11696793
>>11696790
That makes her a monster too. Stats like that can just eat subs for breakfast.

>> No.11696803
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11696803

>> No.11696801

>>11696777
She can equip midget subs though right?

>> No.11696804

>>11696800
Her ASW stats is only a few point higher.
Doesnt help much against flagship sub. You still need sonar to beat those.

>> No.11696805

>>11696800
She's a slightly weaker version of both specialists (KTKM/Isuzu) in one.

She's going to be in my every PVP match from now on.

>> No.11696806

>>11696767
Is there any history behind that eyepatch? Looked through wikipedia and all I could find was this:
>On 28 March 1943, Vice Admiral Shiro Kawase assumed command of the IJN 5th Fleet. Kiso was sent to dry dock on 4 April 1943 for a major refit, during which its 900-mm searchlights were replaced by three Type 96 1100-mm searchlights. Two Type 96 twin-mount 25-mm AA guns were added at port and starboard above the aft torpedo-tube mounts. She was also fitted with a Type 21 air-search radar.

>> No.11696807

>>11696800
Her ASW stat cap is still lower than Isuzu-Kai2 and on par with Agano-class. Though yes, it's still very good.

>> No.11696808

Regardless of her stats, everyone is still going to train up a Kiso to get that card in your album.

>> No.11696809

My decision to relieve Asashio-class for dock space seems backfires.

>> No.11696810

>>11696803
So basically exchanging torpedo stat for boost in AA. Still make a very good back-up just in case the main players are down.

>> No.11696812

>>11696808
I don't particularly care about collecting every card but I'm going to train the shit out of her because of how great she looks.

>> No.11696814

Twitter updates had stated that they were going to distribute the November rank rewards. Did anybody receive anything? I ended the month around rank 200 for my server and haven't gotten anything yet. Did they only reward the top 100?

>> No.11696816

>>11696808
At least I won't make it too obvious by putting her as flagship of 1st fleet.

>> No.11696818

>>11696816
Then she gets less experience.

>> No.11696820

>>11696818
Nah, there's 2nd fleet. I have tons of ships to grind, so I'm now running 2 sortie fleets.

>> No.11696821

>>11696818
Scratch that I'm retarded and can't read.

>> No.11696822

>>11696794
65

>> No.11696824

>>11696772
So what happened to this guy? What did he get? Come on, just toss a flamethrower at it.

>> No.11696827

>>11696814
Top 500.
Within a day or two.

>> No.11696835

>>11696803
Well, still going to be stronger than most ships at night.

Not a rape monster like the hyper combo, but still plenty rape.

>> No.11696839

>>11696835
Frankly, Kiso trading a bit of the torp for AA is a good arrangement. AA works against Wo class at night as well...

>> No.11696845

I wonder if the hidden limitation on light cruisers effectiveness with 20.3cm and the difference between main and secondary guns means that 15.5cm main guns are actually good.

Probably not..

>> No.11696842

>>11696822
Dammit.
All these kai2 come thick and fast.
I am still working on my kinugasa

>> No.11696849

>>11696639
>large ship crafting sometime this month
>use up to 7000 resources and multiple development kits
>can be used to build Yamato or the new Taihou armored CV
>a new CV named Akitsumaru getting introduced
>Kiso getting new remodel (today)
>TAKAO and IONA playable for limited time
>Haruna/Kirkuma's 2nd remodel coming...maybe

Haruna main character finally, and Mic check on bear incoming.

Who's gonna field Kancolle and Arpeggio Takao together?

>> No.11696853

>>11696849
>limited time.

Well, that's disappointing.

>> No.11696854

>>11696849
Playable for a limited time? Are they going to come at level 50 or something?

>> No.11696856

>>11696849
Are you sure it's not 'obtainable for limited time'?

>> No.11696857

>>11696856
http://ebcomic.com/clear/fcc/viewer/se_kancolle5/

>> No.11696858

>>11696856
期間限定使用可能

Yep. Usable only during the event period.

>> No.11696861

アップデート内容をお知らせ漏れが一つありました…すみません、追加でお知らせです!

08▼重巡艦娘"改"型の弾薬消費量軽減
重巡艦娘(除く航巡)"改"型の【弾薬消費量】が少しですが軽減(性能上方修正)されました!※この影響で、一度戦闘しないと補給されない場合があります。

The last thing is ammo reduction for CA-Kai?

>> No.11696867

>>11696861
Ammo consumption reduction for CA kai (CAvi are not included)

>> No.11696868

I haven't played in a while. When did they add the XP bars to the game?

>> No.11696870

>>11696868
Right now. It was the latest update.

>> No.11696871

>>11696870
Yay. Good time I picked to come back to Kancolle.

>> No.11696873

>>11696871
How long have you been out?

>> No.11696875

>>11696873
Not that long. I burnt out halfway through the recent event.

>> No.11696877
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11696877

So when does the other formation quest show up?

>> No.11696880

>>11696877
When you complete the first one.

>> No.11696881

>>11696877
Anyone know what ships I need for the formation quest after the fifth fleet?
Surprisingly I already got Tama, Kiso and Nachi after a few run at 2-3. Just need Ashigara now.

>> No.11696882

>>11696881
Abukuma, Akebono, Ushio, Arale, Shiranui

>> No.11696885
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11696885

Jesus Christ it exists, just when I am out of flamethrower because I spam Nagato recipe yesterday.

I never ask for this

>> No.11696888

>>11696885
What timezone are you in?
Just convert your timezone to JST and minus the difference with the timer.

>> No.11696889

>>11696885
Can you do the PVP quest for a flamethrower?

>> No.11696891

>>11696885
regular battleship recipe?

>> No.11696892

>>11696885
>out of flamethrower
Did you do around 40 crafts or something ridiculous like that?

>> No.11696893

>>11696849
Goodness gracious. If Kirishima too gets a second remodel, 2/3 of my fleet will have them. And having a level 90 torpedo monster out of nowhere opens up a training slot, so now I can easily train up Kisaragi and Kinugasa as well.

This is most welcome. Now to hope for these Fuso and Yamashiro remodels.

>> No.11696894

>>11696885
In before timezone error.

What recipe?

>> No.11696897

>>11696888
I am always using JST as a default time for my pc.

Pardon my retardation because I am so desperate for Nagato I wasted 20k resources and instant build just for it yesterday and all I got is fucking Kongou's, Hyuugas and Nakas.

I was using Nagato recipe the one with 730 steel.

>> No.11696904

>>11696897
I have wanted a Nagato too. I can't force myself into burning steel endlessly though... this is too expensive after 3 days of 4x.

>> No.11696908

Where do you farm carriers for AA stat?

>> No.11696916

>>11696908
2-3/2-4 drops a lot for me back then but now they give me CA, stage 3 drops them too.

>> No.11696918

>>11696908
You farm Isuzu and remodel her at level 12 only to strip her down and feed her to somebody for her +5 AA. You also get free type 21 radars. I think I've gotten about 30 of her from drops and crafting.

>> No.11696919
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11696919

Ship of the day.

>> No.11696921

>>11696678
Recently I have been playing fullscreen on a surface pro.

It runs fine, the interface is much nicer to navigate on a tablet, but otherwise I prefer on my pc

>> No.11696924
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11696924

He'll make the art interesting one day.

>> No.11696926

- Changed title to "Kancolle Viewer" because it makes more sense than "Admiral work is busy"
- Fixed the previous problem, which is horizontal kancolleviewer using a week ago translation
- Both Vertical & Horizontal is now using latest translation which is 18 hours ago, that includes class specification translation
- Also I'm gonna start using date in front of my zip filename

Anyway, link:
Exe (CF=color fix, Hz=Horizontal): https://mega.co.nz/#!8cNFSTYa!cVOycy-YMg-_fR8egfilv0pftpNuX8Y3ijRXtaUtUG8
Code: https://mega.co.nz/#!4ENimYaS!XVAEjhLi0uZnssgPoJnamnzZPUJHfVKaPI10rvDOU7Q

Is the guy who manages silmufus github repository is also here in this thread?

>> No.11696928

>>11696926
So this is an updated KancolleViewer that works with the current version of Kancolle?

>> No.11696930

>>11696924
That... thing... between her legs is there in the undamaged sprite too.

>> No.11696933

>>11696924
Huh, anyone got old one for comparison?

>> No.11696941
File: 84 KB, 686x388, into the trash they go.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
11696941

Into the trash they go.
Now for 1-1

>> No.11696942

>>11696928
Oh shit, clearly I didn't realize that the latest update kinda breaks Kancolle Viewer.

So unfortunately, the answer is no.

The one on the link I provided is based on english kancolleviewer that was updated 18 hours ago (i.e. before this update)

At least all pages work except for fleet page, I guess I need to wait for silmufus to translate the current japanese one (there is an update to japanese kancolleviewer 1 hour ago) to english then I can do the patching. Alternatively, he can put some of my code in his code as well.

>> No.11696943

>>11696930
Oh man, I know it's her sleeves behind her leg, but now that you guys mention it it does look like it's sprouted between her legs.

>> No.11696946
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11696946

>>11696933
The one with arrows is the old one. It's like they forgot to delete the layer of her undamaged sprite and placed the damaged sprite on top of it which why the damaged part of the sleeve is not transparent and uncrooked/crooked tower resulting in two ends.

>> No.11696950

>>11696941
But Kiso isn't the trash!

>> No.11696947

>>11696926
Is there any way to make the game bigger in this? It's about half the size of when I open it in my browser

>> No.11696949

>>11696942

You should work with the original developer and try to get both Japanese and English versions out. He does speak English.

>> No.11696951

>>11696941
You're modernising a Kiso that's 5 levels away from remodelling. I don't understand.

>> No.11696954

>>11696947
Unfortunately, the size of the flash player is hard-defined. Somehow I always thought that was the native resolution when I used to play it in DMM.

Then again, I've played on API link for too long I can't even remember the size of the original flash player anymore

>>11696949
Oh does he? I'll think about it

Anyway, since I can see what the japanese developer did in his latest commit, I'll try to copy paste what he did and see if that will fix it

>> No.11696958

How many buckets is enough? I'm barely making any net gain on fuel between expeditions 2, 5, and 6.

>> No.11696959

>>11696954
>Somehow I always thought that was the native resolution when I used to play it in DMM.

It may well be, I just need it to be a lot bigger than that if I don't want to get a headache from eye strain.

Maybe I'll just try to get flash projector or something to work, since all I really care about is that it doesn't slow down to a crawl when it loses focus.

>> No.11696960

>>11696946
Oh, I see. That was stupid of me. Thank you.

>> No.11696961

Ayyy copy pasting his code on github works, I'll release the fixed one soon.

>>11696959
I'm quite sure that kancolleviewer makes the flash player still goes normal speed even though kancolleviewer itself might lose focus.

But about the size of the player... Yeah, I could try to make to resizeable I suppose, that might be nice actually don't count on it though since I'm not very smart at this

>> No.11696962

>>11696954
Original resolution seems to be 800x480.

>>11696959
Flash Projector pretty easy to get working. Bonus that you can set it so that you just need to open the program and not need to enter your API everytime.

>> No.11696966
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11696966

>>11696946
yep. fucking sloppy

>> No.11696967

>>11696962
Huh, I just realized that the english KV player (based on silmufus github) is 800x480 (which according to what you said is the native resolution), whereas the japanese KV player is 960x572

>> No.11696969

>>11696947
It's a god damn eyesore at any resolution besides 100% (200% on really high-res screens). Why would you even run it at a larger scale?

>> No.11696970
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11696970

>>11696958
2 3 5 6 when you are awake
9 12 13 14 when you are sleeping
Finish your quest everyday

>> No.11696974

>>11696970
Do you have a quest bot or is that just serious dedication.

>> No.11696977 [SPOILER] 
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11696977

>>11696974
Just involves expeditions all day and maybe using only one or two buckets a day.

>> No.11696978

>>11696974
You will get around that amount when you have played for 2months. You will hardly use any buckets if sortie with subs. I still end up with net gain doing 5-2 everyday for a few hours.

>> No.11696993

>>11696969
Maybe he has super huge screen with super high resolution


Alright, here it is, fixed version that should work with the latest update
https://mega.co.nz/#!0UFQRYBI!ZnKayAY48WQkqZF5W6vGDS8jXxgnLhcvIcAPeVRx4Fo

Code:
https://mega.co.nz/#!UJ8yELRJ!HpAsIV5gooW6qTH7LBd1bFx4hAMqpICfhP0pXFfooe0

>> No.11696997

>>11696974
You can get 15-30 a day if you're lucky. Just learn self control and it will slowly accumulate.

>> No.11696999

>>11696962
Is there a way to not have to select the api link from the recently opened list?

>> No.11697011
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11697011

>>11696999
Create a shortcut of Flash Projector, right click and select properties. In the Target text box, put a space after the location of the projector and paste your API link (with http://).

>> No.11697020

>>11697011
Can you show us yours with the link, for reference

>> No.11697021

>>11697011
>
Thank you.
Opps, tried something close with the actual exe not a shortcut.

>> No.11697022

>>11697020
Nice try.

>> No.11697024

>>11697020
no one wants to be the next Abrar

>> No.11697026

Is anyone having problems opening quest page in KCV?

>> No.11697027
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11697027

>>11696993
Good job sir.
Also, it now shows the number of planes too.
>>11697026
No problem here.

>> No.11697049

>>11696993
It would be nice if you could scroll left and right with the horizontal viewer.

>> No.11697048

I know this may sound annoying but how do I get KanColleViewer to work?

>> No.11697055

>>11697048
Download the file and unzip it, then choose either the horizontal or vertical folder. Run the exe, and when it pops up it should open on the DMM page. It'll say restricted area unless you're running a proxy, ignore it. Paste your API link into the browser bar and hit Enter, then start the game as you normally would.

>> No.11697059

>>11697055
Oh wait, this doesn't work on win7 does it? Well shit.

>> No.11697061

>>11696993
When I try to enter a link nothing happens, what gives?
>>11697059
It does work on Win7 with limited functionality. At least it did up until now.

>> No.11697063

>>11697061
Nothing pops when I run the exe though, darn

>> No.11697065

>>11697063
Make sure your AV isn't stopping it, I've got AVAST and it delayed it for a few seconds to scan it the first time I ran it.

>> No.11697067

>>11697065
I'm using Avast too and it's not even scanning it.

>> No.11697068

Getting viewer to run on the notebook screen is pain in the ass, I cant even see the equipment bar. Does the code contain screen resolution?

>> No.11697072

>>11697061
Did you paste your API link and press ENTER? That button on the right of the bar is refresh button, just saying. That damn button caught me so many times

>>11697068
Only for the flash player screen resolution. Are you using the horizontal one? I suppose the area actually became bigger quite recently

>> No.11697074

>>11697072
Yeah. Nothing happens when I hit enter though, I've tried pasting google as a benchmark. I can navigate to other areas of the DMM website by clicking them on the screen and the URL changes.

>> No.11697080

>>11697074
Does your API link contain "http:" at the start like this?

http://x.x.x.x/kcs/mainD2.swf?api_token=x&api_starttime=x

According to most people, it has to be in that format

>> No.11697082

To sanaechan users, it's still not working?

>> No.11697084

>>11697080
And that worked. Is that a recent requirement? It was working before without the http.

>> No.11697088
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11697088

There you go.

>> No.11697090

>>11697084
Yay congrats :)
I'm not sure, since I always use that format from the very first time I use kancolleviewer and in my browser as well

>> No.11697091
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11697091

>>11697088

>> No.11697094

>>11697091
Never seen that before.

>> No.11697098
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11697098

>>11697091
Stats.

>> No.11697104

>>11697098
So like a hybrid bomber and a fighter? Interesting. Could work for unremodelled CVL.

>> No.11697106

>>11697098
A red plane with AA stats huh, doesn't sound too useful though

>> No.11697111

>>11697088
What was your score at the end of the months ? Turk is too competitive for a normie like me. And I have tons of ship I want to level..

>> No.11697113

>>11697098
Just got those as well. The plane looks like a combination green/red plane, as it has both bombing and anti-air stats.

>> No.11697119

>>11697111
I have no recollection at all. Somewhere in the 1100~1200 range I think, this is on Tawi Tawi.

>> No.11697124

>>11697111
I'm on Tawi Tawi and I was in the top 200 but I received the same rewards. Unless the plan on shelling out a few more in the next few days for higher ranks, then it looks like this is it.

>> No.11697126

Welp, time to start spamming 1-1 to get Kiso now

I wish I didn't ignore her

>> No.11697122

Level 60 Hibiki, almost done with this 3 day grind-fest.

>> No.11697132
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11697132

Top guys probably got Seiran again.

>> No.11697133

Is there a wiki page with all of the servers in kanji and translated? I have no clue what server I'm on.

>> No.11697135

>>11697132
Every time I see this I regret joining an older server as opposed to a new one. One week into the new month and the top people have 400 points already.

>> No.11697140
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11697140

From Futaba.

>> No.11697142

>>11697140
That looks sweet. It'll never become craftable, will it?

>> No.11697146

>>11697135
Top guy in tawitawi has 692 now. I think every server has a few hardcore autist. Cutoff for 500 is 170.

>> No.11697148

>>11697135
This is like, 30 5-2 boss nodes a day right? It's probably easy to do once you're swimming in resources and have nothing else to spend it on.

>> No.11697153

>>11697146
My server is the 4th one, top player has 734 points, cutoff for 500 is 199. I try my best to hunt bosses as much as I can but I'm still only at 140 points. I pretty much give up halfway into the month.

>> No.11697154

>>11697153
Do more 5-2
I am at 224 myself. I just do about 5run per day for zuikaku.

>> No.11697157

>>11697153
How? On Rabaul (8th server I think) first has 752 and 500th has 222.
I can barely get into top 3000.
Guess I picked the worst time to start playing.

>> No.11697158

>>11697154
Is there a list of maps : the amount of points they give? Doing 5-2 repeatedly isn't viable because I tend to take a lot of damage (Not to mention CVs consume 3 resources at the same time and cost a lot to repair), but I can run lower level maps repeatedly.

I could budget some time and resources if I knew how many times to run, but the list only updates twice a day.

>> No.11697159
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11697159

Did anyone figure what's that new sound option?

>> No.11697163

>>11697159
do you not read changelogs?

>> No.11697161

>>11697159
Secretary voice on/off.

>> No.11697164

>>11697158
http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%B7%D0%B8%B3%C3%CD

>> No.11697165

>>11697158
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Experience_and_Rank

5-2 is the best since it gives rougly 2 points per round and you're sure to go to the boss node every time. Aside from that you're probably better off doing 4-1 or 3-2 if you're going to rank grind.

>> No.11697166

I wonder when will they finally fix the T-advantage bonus to both sides. They did finally fix enemy CVs being able to launch planes at orange.

>> No.11697171

>>11697161
>>11697163
I did read it but for some reason, it just doesn't do anything. Regardless if I have it on ON or OFF, I still have the secretary line, whether or not I poke her or go back from a sortie whatsoever.

Unless it only affects her idle/clock line.

>> No.11697172

>>11697171
It's only for the idle line

>> No.11697175

>>11697171
Yes, it only affects idle lines.

>> No.11697179

>>11697166
Launching at orange is working as intended.

>> No.11697182

>>11697179
They fixed it, they no longer launch.

>> No.11697185

>>11697182
Absolutely based, I'm no longer scared/annoyed by carriers now.

>> No.11697188

>>11697185
All they need to fix now is fucking T-advantage bonus to both sides. I am sick of seeing Ta Class BB sending my fleet home.

>> No.11697189

>>11697188
Ta-ta for now, eh?

I'm sorry that was horrible.

>> No.11697191

>>11697188
They need to fix it so that all the Saiun I crafted actually has a use

>> No.11697193

>>11697191
PVP.

>> No.11697199

>>11697091
>>11697098
Strange, 21-100 got the same stuff.

>> No.11697200

What about formation not affecting night battle?
Is that a bug?

>> No.11697202

>>11697200
>Bug
you mean "feature".
For all you know, it could have been a purposeful implement.

>> No.11697204

>>11697199
Oh nevermind, got it wrong. They got this >>11697140

>> No.11697205

>>11697200
It does work at night.
You can never hit enemy subs when they use diagonal.

>> No.11697207

>>11697205
Not even on 5-3 sub node when you chose formation for night?

>> No.11697208

>>11697191
Trust me, getting T-croseed in the red for three times in the row is almost an incentive to equip.

>> No.11697212

I wonder what the top 3 reward for ranking is.

>> No.11697214
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11697214

>>11697207
I will try it at 5-2 sub node with my lvl20 kiso.
I am pretty sure those subs are untouchable at night so I never bother going into night battle against them.

>> No.11697215

>>11697214
I've entered night battles versus submarine nodes in an anti-submarine formation before. Many times, in fact. When I'm not paying attention.

They're still hard as hell to fight.

>> No.11697217
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11697217

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQRmu1wsaO0

>> No.11697220

>>11697164
>>11697165
Come to think of it, do event maps give such exp?

>> No.11697230

>>11697220
I pretty much gained a admiral rank due to the events so yeah.

>> No.11697240

Finally got my ships into the red. Time to give them a full rest, I spose.

>> No.11697242

To sanaechan users, the author has updated to 0.4.8 and now works with the new game update

>> No.11697249

>>11697247
Wiki

>> No.11697250

>>11697247
Read the wiki.
It doesn't regen.

>> No.11697247

First time getting to 4-4

Does the boss health regenerate over time like E3-5?

If I managed to beat them today, does that stay forever or do I have to do it again tomorrow/someperiodoftime ?

>> No.11697256
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11697256

>>11697249
>>11697250
Tell me if my question is answered based on that image.

Unless you guys mean the jap wiki or I'm reading the wrong page, then I think my question is valid (but thanks for answering that non-regen part)

>> No.11697258

>>11697256
Did the wiki mention anything about regen? Even google translate will tell you that the boss will regenerate its health bar for event maps.

>> No.11697261

>>11697256
I was pretty sure it mentioned regen, either way you know now

>> No.11697263

>>11697258
Okay, so it's that kind of "if it's not there, then it means this" instead of "if it's not there, then we're not sure either"

>>11697261
I sure do now, thanks

>> No.11697266

>>11696849
>Playable for limited time and not obtainable
Xmas ruined, I wanted to get Iona on my fleet

>> No.11697267

>>11697263
World 5 states that the meter doesn't regenerate hence the confusion, fixed in now.

>> No.11697270

>>11697267
>>11697258 here, I did not know that. Apologies.

>> No.11697271

>>11696849
Shit, I'm perpetually starved for dev kits. I hope it's not like 10 or something.

>> No.11697279

Did the patch break KancolleViewer?

>> No.11697282

>>11697279
see >>11696993

>> No.11697283

>>11697279
Read the last few posts.

>> No.11697285

>>11697271
Do you even daily quest

Seriously, I'm swimming in it right now

>> No.11697295

>>11697285
Yeah, but I always spend them all on plane and asw crafting binges.

>> No.11697304

>>11697295
I know that feel, I've been crafting planes like mad. It's paid off though, I've got Suiseis (Still trying to craft the 3* variant), Ryuusei and Reppu to show for my effort. That and like 4 Saiuns.

>> No.11697309

>>11697304
Which recipe did you use? Just for reference.

>> No.11697316

>>11697309
For the Ryuusei- 30/60/10/130 and 50/60/30/130
For the Reppu- 20/60/10/100
For the Saiun, 30/60/10/130 and 50/60/30/130
I'd say that if you're looking for a Saiun, 30/60/10/130 is probably your most solid recipe, but otherwise 20/60/10/100 will probably do you well.

>> No.11697319

>>11697316
Nice, thanks.

>> No.11697322

>>11697295
Hows the sonar rate?

>> No.11697331

Is it me or are some quests repeated after the new fleet composition quests? I could have sworn I have completed 「三川艦隊」出撃せよ! before.

>> No.11697333

>>11697322
Abysmal.

>> No.11697337

>>11697331
There's the green fleet composition quests, then follow-up red quests that want you to bring those fleets out to clear specified maps.

>> No.11697341
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>>11694541
If carriers are teachers and battleships are toddlers then who even goes to Kantai College?

>> No.11697344
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>>11694556

>> No.11697347

>>11697337
Yeah, but upon completion of the new ones brought by the updates, I noticed 「第六駆逐隊」出撃せよ!and 「三川艦隊」出撃せよ! in my quest list which is weird because I swore that I have completed them before. Maybe I have missed them but that means they are under my nose for a month or so already.

>> No.11697350
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11697350

You guys were right, it feels great seeing the Holo background.

>> No.11697356

>>11697333
Guess I will stick with my makigumo farm.

>> No.11697360
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>>11694580
>I'm Mikuma, nice to meet you
First item on the list of things I and many teitoku will never hear.

>> No.11697368
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>>11694622
That inherited line is awkward but I can't even begin to figure out what's supposed to be there through context.

>> No.11697374
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>>11694634
Second sighting of the background sisters.

>> No.11697395
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>>11694652
You left out something by Naka in the third panel.

>> No.11697399

>>11697350
>>11697360
I wish there was a drop database like http://kancolle-db.tk..
Would be interesting to know Mikuma drop rate compare to Zuikaku at 5-2.

>> No.11697401
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11697401

>>11694657
Back to grinding Kiso. As always, hit me with any suggestions you've got.

>> No.11697402

>>11697401
Thanks.

>> No.11697433

>>11697347

Look again. You did complete 「三川艦隊」出撃せよ!, but there's also 新「三川艦隊」出撃せよ! to do - and I'd wager that's your current one.

>> No.11697437

>>11697433
Nah, disregard my post, I was just being retarded. The Mikawa fleet quests were delayed because I'm lazy to train the girl,s. As for the 6DesDiv quest, I guess I really missed it.

>> No.11697463

>>11697341
Seaplane Tenders/Light Carriers. It's actually revealed later.

>>11697368
Again, direct translation is "self brought". Naka assumed her balloons was an equipment like their backpack, but in the front instead. Atago corrects her and says it's not an equipment and part of her body.

>>11697395
Part of "Ara-", but more appropriate with "Oh-"

I got something to do right now, I'll work on the pages in a second.

>> No.11697465

Let's say I want to make Maya an AA monster. Should I go with all AA guns, or should I mix in radar/shell?

>> No.11697471

>>11697465
Shell is definitely a must; other than that, a AA gun by itself should be enough. I don't think stacking AA gun will give you any other boon other than stats.

>> No.11697507
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11697507

What a shitty manga.

>> No.11697514

>>11697507
Spoken like a true Chink and gook.

>> No.11697522

>>11697507
MogaPADS (笑)

>> No.11697528

>>11697463
Yeah I didn't make the connection at all that she mistook it for gear. There isn't much room in the dialogue to make it smoother either. Maybe if I changed "inherited" to something like "it's natural" it'd flow better, or maybe it's just me being slow on the uptake. Either way it's not much of a loss if a small part of the joke is lost in translation. Take your time and keep up the good work.

>> No.11697544

>>11697341
how can ship girls be real if our eyes arn't real

>> No.11697608
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>>11697528

>> No.11697615
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>>11697608

>> No.11697618

>>11697544
Ship girls are a conscious extracorporeal manifestation of nature's harmonic four-quadrant day. You can forever see the ship girls if you reject the EVIL GEOSYNCHRONOUS IDEOLOGY and believe in the truth of the simultaneous four corners of the world rotating on the 4-dimensional axis. Even when your eyes aren't real you will see ship girls.

>> No.11697620

>>11697341

Is there a link for this?

>> No.11697635
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>>11697615

>> No.11697638
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>>11697620
http://exhentai.org/g/638600/51f02519ed/

>>11697635

>> No.11697653

How do I get the API token? I've inspected the whole page, but there's no mainD2.swf or api_token to be found. I tried inserting string pieces from to code into the link, but it gives a network error the moment the main menu loads.

>> No.11697657
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>>11697638

>> No.11697658

>>11697653
Inspect the flash object

>> No.11697669
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11697669

>>11697657
Kuma

>> No.11697679
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>>11697669

>> No.11697695
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>>11697679
Forever side characters. Forever non-popular forgotten carriers.

>> No.11697700

>>11697695
It is kinda sad that they are kinda forgotten. But so is Hiei, even though she is part of Kongou sisters

>> No.11697709

>>11697695
You'd think they'll get more attention, given how few CVs there are in the game.

>> No.11697720

>>11697709
In a few months, everyone will be busy drooling over Taiho, Shinano and the escort carriers, and they will still be forgotten.

>> No.11697723

>>11697695
Blame the artstyle.

>> No.11697724
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11697724

>>11697695
I'm pausing here for now; I gotta get to work. Two character sheets and a last one with Sendai and we'll be done.

>>11697700
Mic check doesn't exist in this either.

>> No.11697728

>>11697724
Welp I didn't clean that last one. The middle left panel is "Speaking of which, I was once a student teacher too..."

>> No.11697729

>>11697709
But they are useless. If you can get Akagi for free, why would you use a weaker one?
If you want to efficiently use CVs you just use CVLs.

>> No.11697740

>>11695110
Aoba; her accent is cute.

>> No.11697741

kviewer is not updating my fleet's morale and hp for some reason, is win7 to blame?

>> No.11697742

>>11697729
>But they are useless. If you can get Akagi for free, why would you use a weaker one?
A part of me dies because of these 2 sentences.

Honestly, they are a good substitute if you find them early on, and it's not like their stats are god awful horrible anyway

>> No.11697743
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11697743

The new plane is pretty shit compared to Zuiun.

>> No.11697745

>>11697741
If you don't use this version >>11696993, then no, it's still not win7 fault, it's the recent update's fault.

>> No.11697749

>>11697745

that is what im using

>> No.11697757

>>11697749
You sure? Resha uploaded 2 version on the same day. The first one filename started with 131211 (this one doesn't work), whereas the other one started with 131211A (this one works).

>> No.11697760

I don't get it why people are having trouble with 2-4. Is it the rng? I managed to get B with 2xCA, 2xCLT, CV, CVL.

>> No.11697803

>>11697760
It's much more convenient to just postpone the 2-4 clear until you can effortlessly push through.

>> No.11697852

>>11697757

oh excuse me, A version, now I have it.

>> No.11697853

>>11697803
I preferred to clear 2-4 with my sub for easy 3-2 grinding. Lack of BBs was a crucial factor, though.

>> No.11697860
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11697860

It is possible in Kancolle Viewer to put a "default" api link? I've tried to insert it in the config file but it crashes when I launch the exe.

>> No.11697863

>>11697853
I just took the 2-4 barrier as an opportunity to grind 2-2 and 2-3 for weeklies and battleships.

It did net me Fuso, Yamashiro, Kongo and Hiryu, so overall it was a solid haul.

>> No.11697915

>>11697760
It's the first map that has multiple nodes with relatively difficult enemy ships that must be gone through in order to hit the boss - DD/CL/CAs really only do scratch damage generally, but especially elite/flagship BBs can put out enough raw damage to take a ship down to orange or red instantly, and enemy BBs start showing up by the second node on each path of the map.

If you get a ship crit to red on the way to the boss, you either retreat, have a repair fairy equipped (not really worthwhile for an early map), or press on and risk losing a girl. People are generally gonna go with option A there, thus 2-4's difficulty.

Also, I'm not sure that people realize there's this thing called NOT USING LINE FUCKING AHEAD ALL THE TIME. It's trivially easy to get to boss node using line abreast, whereas line ahead penalizes your armor, in addition to not giving abreast's armor boost (so even less armor comparatively) on top of no evasion boost.

>> No.11697921

>>11697915
I was an idiot back then, I didn't use that formation, I used double line all the way instead (But I think it's a decent option for formation though)

>> No.11697942

>>11697915
using line abreast also penalizes your damage output, which means enemies may live longer and therefore may get more shots on your ships, which might negate the benefit of having more defense.

>> No.11697947

>there are people on /jp/ RIGHT NOW who don't use line ahead for everything except sub troll nodes

>> No.11697949

>>11697947
>line ahead
I double line when in doubt.

>> No.11697973

>>11697949
I double line for everything except when there are carriers, in which case I use ring formation.

>> No.11697979 [DELETED] 

>>11697973

you men diamond formation?

>> No.11697984

>>11697979
Yeah that.

>> No.11697985

>>11697973

you mean diamond formation?

>> No.11698001
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11698001

>>11695466
>homey dumpiness
But that's Kitakami's charm point.

>> No.11698009

>>11697947
I accidentally used echelon while 3-2 grinding once and found out my lvl16 Imuya actually takes 0 or scratch damage from it and I still S-ranked it, haven't stopped using echelon for grinding since.

>> No.11698024

>>11697947

I can only line ahead, killing everything before they get 2 attacks in is the only way to go.

>> No.11698031

>>11698009
Takes about twice as long for combat to resolve with all the extra misses. I'd rather just swap out subs more often.

>> No.11698035

>>11698031
Really? My ships seems to perform with higher accuracy with that formation, maybe it's just me.

>> No.11698057

>>11698031
>>11698035
I tried both formations for 3-2 grinding and accuracy didn't seem to be significantly different

>> No.11698079

>>11698009
I'd rather just line ahead. 50% of the time I manage to kill the enemy ships before they get a shot off, and the other 50% is mostly scratch damage and misses, anyways.
I also have a few Imuyas that I can rotate around, so I'd rather finish the fights faster.

I guess it might be more effective if you are running less CVs/CLTs, or something.

>> No.11698082

So how many of you anons use scripts while you sleep?

>> No.11698089

>>11698057
Damage is noticeably lower with echelon compared to line ahead. It might not matter for 3-2 since the enemies there are really weak, but try killing Ta's with echelon sometime. It doesn't work.

>> No.11698088

>>11698082
There are people who actually play this game all day without scripts?

>> No.11698109

>>11698082
Why would I cheat in a singleplayer game I play for fun? Whats the point in that?

>> No.11698118

Imagine how great these threads could be if we all helped each other out in a caring, family-like community!
I'm just kidding, this is /jp/

>> No.11698130

>>11698089
I don't even use echelon for 3-2 grinding anymore since the difference in damage was too big, was just saying that accuracy seemed to be the same for both formations.

>> No.11698134

>>11698118
I guess you weren't around when READ THE FUCKING WIKI was the default answer to any question, even theorycrafting questions?

It's already a lot better these days.

>> No.11698141

>>11698134
It still is the answer. That said, I try to answer the question and then find the appropriate wiki page in an attempt to hint hint nudge nudge them towards using the wiki. I've even taken to recording all of my recipes so that I can "help" people in the thread with crafting. Hell, if I ever collect enough data (probably 100 results which will take a while since I'm a casual) I'll probably upload %s to the wiki's development page.

>> No.11698168

2-2 doesn't have any requirements for it does it? I keep getting railroaded to the top node (nodes A, B, and C on the wiki).

>> No.11698170

>>11698168
Over 250 runs there and it's mostly 50% each compass.

>> No.11698177

>>11698170
Eh, I guess that is a good thing since I'm using my main fleet (3 BBs, a CV, a CVL and a CA). Guess I'll keep plugging away at it.

>> No.11698180

>>11698177
2-3 is better overall, though.

>> No.11698183

>>11698141
The japs already have large databases of samples.

>> No.11698189

>>11698180
I'll keep that in mind; I'm still on 2-2.

>> No.11698264
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11698264

wat

>> No.11698268

>>11698264
Just use the damn flamethrower, don't cocktease.

>> No.11698275

Does anyone know the development thing for seaplanes?

>> No.11698278

>>11698275
Wiki.
But why would you want to use them?
You can't get Seiran and the other planes are useless.

>> No.11698280

>>11698278
I want some more Zuiun (Auspicious Clouds).

But there's not specific recipe on the wiki for it.

>> No.11698283

>>11698264
Shipbuilding timer bugs were minorly interesting 4 months ago.

>> No.11698289

>>11698280
Use kancolle-db.

>> No.11698293

>>11698280
you get them as stock equipment when you remodel ships,that's way easier than to craft them.

>> No.11698306

>>11698280
>Auspicious Clouds
pfft ahaha.

>> No.11698313

>>11698293
So it's easier trying to get Mogami, Chiyoda and Chitose than crafting them?

>> No.11698319

>>11698313
Yes, Chitose and Chiyoda in particular are extremely common drops.

>> No.11698320 [DELETED] 
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11698320

How do I enter the lottery? The site says that the service is unavailable in my country. I already cleared my browser cache and set my pc to UTC+09:00.
What next?

>> No.11698321

>>11698320
Read the wiki you useless sack of shit.

>> No.11698322

>>11697942
Not even close, friend. If you're using fucking DDs, sure, but BBs will oneshot enemy DD/CLs for sure and usually CAs as well, and unless you did WAY too much grinding and had 46cms on everyone, you weren't going to oneshot BBs anyways.

Also, the simple fact of the matter is that enemies WILL get shots off here and there, and line abreast is -so- much better at dealing with it that even if you take 1-2 more shots each engagement, the overall damage taken will still be vastly less than line ahead.

>> No.11698325

>>11698320
Reading the Wiki would be next.

>> No.11698329

>>11698313
Mogamin is pure love.

>> No.11698331

>>11698321
>>11698325
I did read the wiki, still not working. Is using another vpn necessary?

>> No.11698333

>>11695250
Thanks so much, cleared 3-4 on 4th try using this formation. May you be blessed with lots of rare equipments.

>> No.11698336

>>11698321
Be nice

>> No.11698338

>>11698331
Read more carefully next time.

>> No.11698344

>>11698329
She's definitely carrying my fleet atm, still on 2-1.

>> No.11698351

Subs aren't something that you can just keep around in your fleet right?

>> No.11698359

>>11698351
Subs aint nothin to fuck with.

>> No.11698361

>>11698351
Yeah they're useless

>> No.11698364

>>11698351
They're pretty useless asides from fuel runs and as tanks for grinding

>> No.11698369

>>11698351
Subs make their own fleet.

>> No.11698370

>>11698364
Tanks for grinding, as in putting them as flagships? And everyone aims them and your other guys will be fine?

>> No.11698379 [DELETED] 

Do I need a Japanese prosy to play or something

>> No.11698382

do I need a japanese proxy to play or something
how do I get past that part

>> No.11698381

>>11698322
Stop talking out of your ass. BB with 141 fire power and line abreast formation modifier and no critical modifier calculation goes like this.
(141 + 5 [firepower added for all shelling damage]) * 0.60 [modifier for line abreast] * 1.00 [parallel engagement modifier, this number can go as low as 0.60 for red-T] * 1.00 [1.50 for crit] = 87.6 calculated damage.

Final damage dealt = calculated damage - enemy armour * (2/3 ~ 4/3)

Taking a flagship Ho-class CL for example

Final damage dealt = 87.6 - 36 * (2/3 ~ 4/3) = 87.6 - (24 ~ 48) = 63.6 ~ 39.6

Considering that the FL Ho-class have 53 HP and assuming that the armour modifier is randomly distributed and not a Gaussian distribution, there's 56% chance of not 1HKO'ing the FL Ho-class, and even higher chance of not 1HKO'ing a FL CA.

tl;dr: Line abreast a shit.

>> No.11698383
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11698383

Oh neat. I guess this is good after Bull Halseying into an enemy node.

Good thing I didn't lose any girls.

>> No.11698385

>>11698382
Use a Japanese VPN for registering and finding your API link.

http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_Proxy_Connection

>> No.11698389

>>11698381
and that's assuming you get parallel engagement. Head-on, or red-T engagement and you're not going to be 1HKO'ing the gold CL "for sure".

>> No.11698400

There goes 8000/2000/12000/600 for nothing, fuck RNG.

>> No.11698402

>>11698400
What the fuck did you try to do?

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11698407

>>11698402
A Nagato, but all I get are Ise and Kongou classes at most. Also two Mutsus.

>> No.11698408

>>11698400
>8000/2000/12000
>/600
what

>> No.11698411

>>11698402
looks like 20 tries of 400/100/600/30

>> No.11698412

>>11698402
It appears to be 20 Nagato attempts.

Weak, really. I'm on my 121st attempt so far.

>> No.11698415

>>11698408
20 BB recipe tries.

>>11698412
>121st attempt so far
Damn man, that's a whole new level of suffering.

>> No.11698421

>>11698415
You can actually get around 10 attempts in a day even without F5 cheating if you only sortie subs and field expeditions all day. I've been at this since the event ended. Still pretty obnoxious, all my 5:00 timers have been Mutsus.

>> No.11698424

Apparently, night battle mega damage galore also happens during PvP. Kiso always gets MVP when I enter night battle, eventhough with other 4 BBs and 1 CLT in my fleet.

>> No.11698430

>>11698421
Yeah, but I'm grinding to get the new Kiso remodel now and the resources rise very slowly like this.

>> No.11698457

>>11698430
I'm with you on this.
I swear, Kiso dropped very frequently yesterday and she's completely gone today.

>> No.11698455

>>11698412
>>11698415
You two should try to get Suzuya or Kumano and you'll get both nagato class battleships without trying.

Happened to me with sub recipes, took me ages to get both subs but yukikaze and shimakaze were pretty common.

The RNG is a sentient dick that refuses to give you that one ship you want or that one ship you need.

>> No.11698459

Did they do something with quest tracking? I didn't have the "kill 3 transport ships" quest activated and when I killed two of them on 2-3, the quest later appeared as "50% complete".

>> No.11698467

>>11698424
Yeah, it always happened but since you can't deal "fatal blows" to the ships, it will show as "miss".

>> No.11698466

>>11698459
that was added like 2 weeks ago?

>> No.11698464

>>11698455
If I may ask, what recipe did you use for Suzuya and Kumano? I've been trying to get those for a while and I keep getting Yamashiro and Fusou (doing 400/100/600/30)

>> No.11698481

>>11698466
I see nothing on the Wiki.

>> No.11698489

>>11698481
wait, overread the not activated part - no idea then, might be a bug

>> No.11698491

>>11698464
I got Suzuya and Kumano on the 400/100/600/30 while trying to get Nagato. Sigh...

>> No.11698493

>>11698464
I wish I had them, its the other way around.
I got the nagato-class battleships while trying for Kumano and still no luck with her.

Have been using the standard 400/30/600/30 BB recipe for ages without results but a friend got her from sub recipe 250/30/200/30. Might switch to that because its cheaper and I could use the spare subs for multiple things, still not sure.

>> No.11698500

>>11698491
Same here, I think I'll just try to farm for her.

>> No.11698616

>>11698455
ive been trying for 2 weeks to get shimakaze
so far i've gotten yukikaze 2 imuyas 1 goya and 1 kumano yet 0 shimakaze.

>> No.11698628

>>11698616
why would you try to craft Shimakaze?

>> No.11698640

>>11698628
why not?
she hasn't dropped for me either, its not like ive only been crafting.

>> No.11698642

>>11698616
Have you tried running 2-4 often? I got at least 3 from there.

>> No.11698658

>>11698642
i did like 50 2-4 solo SS runs and 20 or so full runs and didnt get her at all. in fact i didnt get anything of value from 2-4 except a lot of RJ's and junyous

>> No.11698662

>>11698642
not him, but what do you run 2-4 with? i do sub runs on it occasionally because i just want shimakaze, but i dont always get S ranks with them.

i dont want to waste resources using a heavy fleet there.

>> No.11698672

>>11698662
The best fleet to farm 2-4A is 3CVL and 3SS.

>> No.11698674

>>11698662
not that guy - but when I use a 4 sub fleet I put 6 planes on the SSV, they allow for regular S ranks.

>> No.11698700

Eugh, does anyone else hate when your fleet fucks up and your aircraft carrier eats a 40 damage crit torpedo on what was supposed to be an uneventful 3-2-1 run?

>> No.11698710

>>11698700
no i love when that happens

>> No.11698790

>>11698710
[one bucket later]

>> No.11698880

Line abreast is supposed to be high evade, right? My destroyer fleet is now in the sixties and still getting sent home on the first node of 3-2.

>> No.11698892

>>11698880
it just increase a bit your evasion, but it doesn't magically turn your DD into dodge machines, especially 3-2 is definitely a RNG fest like 2-4 and 3-4.

Increase the odds by using a turbine for each of your DD or damecon.

>> No.11698900

>>11698892
I just had a sparkling level 69 with improved boiler torpedoed from 30 to 1 on the very first node.

I'll try again when they're in their seventies.

>> No.11698906

>>11698880
I just cleared it earlier with a mostly level 20 unsparkled team who were only modernized for armor. No damecons and only one turbine.
I guess it's all luck.

>> No.11698909

>>11698892
It is all luck
Better use double line. It is my default formation whenever there is a fucking ta class BB

>> No.11698923

>>11698900
Levels dont count for shit, its 80% RNG with whether you dodge that goddamned BB in the preboss node. Nearly everyone has gotten it done with modernized and remodelled level 20 DDs in 12 tries or less.

>> No.11698924

>>11698909
Would line abreast be a good formation to use when trying to reach the boss node in 2-4? I seem to have a hard time getting there without one of my ships sustaining mid/heavy damage.

>> No.11698929

>>11698923
Just to state this again mathematically, the only benefit of your levels for this specific situation is increased evasion. And going from 80 to 85 evasion is still fucking nothing in the grand scheme.

Even 50 to 80 isnt much, maybe you'll have to do three runs less but you'll spend five hundred times longer levelling than the time you save.

>> No.11698930

>>11698923
I was torpedoed out by the flagship flagship light cruiser.

I may not even have tried twelve times total, though. After I finish repairs I'm going to try again.

>> No.11698935

>>11698930
The true killer of 3-2 isnt the compass or the BBs, its that damned wait time. Just barely short enough that its not worth bucketing, so you spend forever waiting it out.

>> No.11698938

>>11698930
Personally, i just head for that maelstrom to skip the first battle. You only have to hop two nodes so you dont get the evasion decreass from low fuel.

>> No.11698939

>>11698924
No. You stack blue planes and CLT and go line ahead all day. That is how I cleared it.
Does line abreast even has defensive bonus?

>> No.11698940

>>11698935

It's not too bad though. You can just grind 3-2-A while waiting for another 3-2 run. It's even better if you have more docks unlocked.

>>11698939

It does, but how much more than double line I'm not sure.

>> No.11698988

>>11698938
You should get a radar though. You would lose less fuel at whirlpool that way.

>> No.11699035

>>11698939
Fucking christ you're clueless.

>>11698924
You don't HAVE to use it, but it synergizes fantastically with the 4bb2cv setup that is commonly suggested. Line Abreast gives extra durability so you get maximum value from your armor; coupled with their large HP pools, you can pretty reliably get to the boss while taking no more than scratch damage, and then go Line Ahead on boss and blow them up without even needing to go to night battle.

It's certainly possible to clear 2-4 with other formations, and line ahead is... not optimal but certainly viable, but if you're going with 4bb2cv or something similar, line abreast will give you a LOT of bang for your buck. And honestly, as long as they're modernized, you shouldn't even have any trouble killing enemy ships while in line ahead, even the BBs. Initial airstrike is not affected by your formation anyways, and with no torpedo cruisers, line abreast's penalty to torpedo accuracy is irrelevant.

>> No.11699169

>>11699035
Line abreast reduces damage pretty significantly (>>11698381)
. I doubt you're killing the BBs unless you score crit hits on them every attack.

>> No.11699211
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11699211

Lost her when accidentally clicked advance to 5-2 boss node while she's already red.
;_;

>> No.11699217

>>11699211
Great job!

>> No.11699221

>>11699211

Holy shit. What level?

>> No.11699222

>>11699211
It is a sign for you to use Kiso

>> No.11699238

>>11699211
She will never be able to tell you how shitty of a teitoku you are BECAUSE SHE IS DEEEEAAD! ;_;

>> No.11699244

>>11699211
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6CLY_MOohA

Ooi, finally we meet again.

>> No.11699246

>>11697860
replace ampersand character within the API link with &amp;
example: http://serverip/kcs/mainD2.swf?api_token=hash&amp;api_starttime=unixtime

>> No.11699258
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>>11699246
oh shit nigga
thank you

>> No.11699347

>>11699211
What's with everyone sinking Ooi and Kitakami?

I mean, they are used more than any other ship, level faster than any other ship, and despite that are fairly fragile, but you'd think folks would know when not to push with them after the first few dozen levels.

>> No.11699353

Are you meant to craft your own Battleship? Like is it recommended?

Or are drops of them in world 2 actually okay?

>> No.11699359

>>11699353
If you want a battleship, any battleship, to complete your fleet or pass through 2-4, the drops are fine.

If you want a specific ship, then you may want to do some crafting on the side, in addition to running world 2.

>> No.11699363

>>11699353
2-2 and 2-3 boss node drops them like half the time with S rank. Farm them if you can do it with little to no downtime and repair.

>> No.11699361

>>11699347
I usually go with Kitakami as my flagship, since she's the most fragile ship in the fleet. Flagship protection helps a lot on keeping her healthy.

>> No.11699372

>>11699347

You just listed the reasons why people sink them.

People should know better, but since people already fucked up, the fuck-up is likely going to cost them ships that are 1. commonly used, and 2. fragile.

>> No.11699373

>>11699347
Because they're always used to mindlessly grind with, and have much less hp than carriers.

>> No.11699381

>>11699347

Addition to other reasons, CLTs only have 2 effective equipment slots. (because why would you deploy one without a midget sub)

Since you want them double attacking during night event maps, mospeoplet put a pair of 15.5 guns on them. Which leaves no space for a damcon as insurance if their Ts fuck up and misclick or zone out.

>> No.11699393

is kancolle viewer giving inaccurate fatigue and dock size for anyone else?
or really its just reporting everything wrong except timers and ship construction.

>> No.11699398

>>11699393
There's a new version here >>11696993

I think the OP should start including Kancolle Viewer, it really helps new comers and stuff.

>> No.11699403

>>11699398
Also helps in getting them banned.

>> No.11699406

>>11699398
thanks

>>11699403
have there been any reports of anyone being banned for using kancolleviewer or sanaechan?

>> No.11699410

>>11699406
None with evidence.

>> No.11699413

>>11699246

thank you

>> No.11699417

>>11699403
They're not going to ban anyone who isn't scripting or putting excess load on their servers.

>> No.11699499

>>11699221
I forgot, about 90ish. She was my 2nd highest level after KTKM.

>>11699222
Ironically I used her as flagship when Ooi sunk, I feel terrible now.

>>11699347
The game knows when to screw you up. Really, I thought I already careful enough to not made a mistake, but well...

>> No.11699510

Does the screenshot button even work in KancolleViewer?

>> No.11699534
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11699534

This's gonna become an everyday scene

>> No.11699542

>>11699534
They should at least give you more than 1 Naka per attempt.

>> No.11699543

>>11699534
I want a PTSD plushie.

>> No.11699546
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11699546

PTSD slut.

>> No.11699615

Is there any reason to unlock more expeditions past 13?

>> No.11699659

>>11699546
>dead Yamashiro and Fusou
>raining

Itsuka... Ame... Yamu sa.

>> No.11699674

Grinding DD's to their second remodel in 3-2 is suffering.

>> No.11699688

>>11699674
>suffering

What? Do you even 3-2-1 retreat?

>> No.11699690

>>11699674
If you're ok with the occasional bit of scratch damage on other ships, and maybe refreshing if you hit the very bottom node, 4-1 lets you generally do 2 nodes per sortie for almost as high xp. It's kind of a tossup, you definitely need to be more prepared for the subs (depth charges/sonar in every slot for the DDs at least) and there are a few enemy CAs that occasionally do manage to hit you, but in general it's an interesting alternative if you're fine with only leveling ~2 weak ships at once.

>> No.11699714

>>11699690
I'm leaving a 10cm High Angle Gun on DD's, other slots with depth charges and sonar.
3DD here.
How about other 3 ship?
2CVL+torpedo ship?

>> No.11699779

>>11699714
The important thing is 1bb+1sub+4
You will want at least 3ships that can hit sub so that mean 3 cvl/dd/cl and 1 wildcard.

>> No.11699799

>>11699403
I dunno man, if that was true, then us who does some kind of coding on KV would be the first one to get banned.

>>11699246
Ohh yeah, I forgot that character is one of those special characters

>> No.11699846

>>11699546
Oh god she's so adorable

>> No.11699860

I still don't really understand the difference between Torpedo bombers and dive bombers, do they both attack during the Air Combat phase and the Shelling phase?

Is one better than the other?

>> No.11699883
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11699883

>>11699779
How about I node?
What do you do when you hit there?

Pic related is my fleet

>> No.11699889

>>11699860

The wiki explains all of this.

Or you can test this out yourself. Would not really hurt you in any way.

>> No.11699890

>>11699403
Is there even any point in using this over a Flash Projector?

>> No.11699894

>>11699883
I retreat after the sub node.
If I am coming from the fuel and hit I, I reset.

>> No.11699897
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11699897

Buy Wo shirts today.

>> No.11699900

>>11699799
As far as I can understand, KV just looks at the data and displays it, no data is altered and you're certainty not botting/macro'ing.

Also, KV uses IE's flash, so I can only assume it looks like you're accessing the game via IE.

Someone agree with me so I don't feel as paranoid please.

>> No.11699901

>>11699890
No, not at all. Don't bother with it.

>> No.11699907

>>11699900

>Someone agree with me so I don't feel as paranoid please.

It's using a customized IE browser that will steal your API link which will be triggered on Christmas eve.

Have fun losing your daughters on Christmas anon.

>> No.11699909

>>11699889
I'm very weak at mathematics sorry, but I'm assuming that torpedo bombers have some strange chance based strength? And because of that... Torpedo bombers are better overall?

>> No.11699912

>>11699900
I certainly agree with that. Does that help you with your paranoia?

I was paranoid as well while I was testing the code because I literally refreshed the game 1-3/minute just because I need to keep recompiling stuff

>> No.11699920

>>11699912
A lot better, thanks.
I'm sure you would've already found anything that looks like it'll steal your API link as well since you've been neck-deep in the code for a while.

(Thanks again for your work on KV too!)

>> No.11699921

>>11699406
have there been any reports of anyone being banned for using scripting? Might as well just use that too

>> No.11699925

>>11699921
I've only heard tidbits here and there about people being banned for using a mobile device or abusing steel nodes refreshes.

>> No.11699932

>>11699921
I know a guy who made a script got banned.
The script is still alive on his github tho.

>> No.11699933

>>11699920
Oooh, I hate to break it to you, but changing color and chainging the layout to horizontal version of KV is all I did.

So it's not really true that I went neck deep in the code (although I did look at some intricate parts for a while because I have no idea what I was doing at first)

The guy who made the code in japanese however, (i.e. the original KV maker) can definitely assure you on that API link stealing scheme.

But here's my opinion on this: since this thing is already there for a quite a while and no /jp/ programmer is complaining about it, then I believe it's okay

>> No.11699951

Not >>11699920

>>11699933
That, and assuming that they actually are stealing your API link, then they would have shitload of them by now, at least thousands of API links

What are you gonna do with those thousand API links? Delete their stuff? Ban your account? That seems like a tiresome thing to do

>> No.11699961

>>11699951
I'm pretty sure Japanese that use KV don't use API, but login to DMM instead.

>> No.11699979

>>11699933
No one can really vouch for binaries posted here unless they decompile it to make sure there's no malicious code inserted. Safest bet is to just compile your own from source.

>>11699951
Stealing your API link is the least of possible concerns. For all you know, it downloads and installs a trojan that steals your bank account info.

>> No.11699980

>>11699961
Sure, but if their aim was truly to steal your API, then I'm sure they could do it anyway.

Why? Well, ask yourself, how do you get your API link?

Not to mention, there is probably quite a lot of non-japanese people who plays this game using KV (espcially if KV is mentioned at wiki)

>> No.11699985

>>11699979
Hence the reason why I posted my binaries along with the code, I doubt people will use it though since you have to download Visual Studio just to compile it

>> No.11700030

I've heard someone was grinding solo DD's at 5-1 sub node, what do you equip them with?

>> No.11700089

Goddamm kasumi is pretty rare.

>> No.11700090

Historically, it wouldn't make sense for Shimakaze to get a 2nd Kai right?

I guess, if people marry their Shimakazes she can get better stats.

>> No.11700114

>>11700090
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Shimakaze-class_destroyer
If Kiso got a 2nd remodel based on her proposed plan that was never implemented, there is still hope for super ZKMS.

>> No.11700119

>>11700114
Super Shimakaze was an entirely different type of ship, though. But if they become the second remodel of Shimakaze, then I want Super Yamato and her 51cm guns.

>> No.11700118

Hmm, apparently ships will still shoot down planes even if they're not equipped with any AA guns at all

>> No.11700122

>>11700118
I had one occasion when my subs fleet shot down enemy planes.

>> No.11700124

>>11698412
Idk why everyone rages about fail crafting Nagato. I got her the first day I joined this game, the first time I even tried crafting a BB.

>> No.11700125

Who will draw Akitsu Maru? It's Shibafu, who else?

>> No.11700127

>>11700124
Well fuck you too.

>> No.11700128

>>11700125
>It's Shibafu, who else?
Good. I like Shibafu's fleet girls. Shibafu needs more fleet girls.

>> No.11700130

>>11700128
Please no

>> No.11700133

>>11700130
Shibafu girls are the only non-sluts.

>> No.11700134

>>11700089
I get her at least daily from World 1.

>> No.11700138

>>11700130
It is inevitable. Shibafu will design fleet girls. You will like the fleet girls Shibafu designed.

You liked Akagi, Kaga, Ooi, Kitakami and Hosho. You will learn to like the other fleet girls.

>> No.11700139

>>11700133
What about konishi?
If we take out those monkeys, her girls are actually high tier. Yahagi is love.

>> No.11700140

>>11700118
Only your flagship. She gets to shoot at planes even without AA equipment.

>> No.11700142

>>11700138
I just don't want a plain army.

>> No.11700144

Historically do event ships ever become craftable/droppable or come back in events?

I want a go at grabbing those Submarines I missed.

>> No.11700145

>>11700139

Konishi's designs are my absolute favorite in this game. Suzuya, Kumano, Yahagi, the list goes on.

Shibafu's designs are cute though. Ayanami and Shikinami are absolutely adorable.

>> No.11700149

>>11700144
Imuya and Goya became craftable around one month after the event IIRC.

>> No.11700154

>>11700139
>If we take out those monkeys
and don't forget their noses.

>> No.11700155

>>11700142
Shibafu's fleet girls are not plain. Each and every one of them is drawn with love. You do not appreciate them now, but you will.

Years later, the number of Shibafu's fleet girls will have grown beyond reckoning, and you will be in your deathbed. You will look at Shibafu's fleet girls, and you will understand. "What a fool I was!", you will say, "Not having liked Shibafu's fleet girls!"

>> No.11700163

>>11700155
Kaga and Akagi are the only good ones.

The rest are cute not because of their designs but because of their personalities.

>> No.11700165

>>11700155
His designs are kinda hit-or-miss though. On one hand, there Kaga, Akagi, and KTKM who look good, and more importantly, unique enough. Then on the other hand, there's the copypaste DD legion.

>> No.11700168

>>11700155
>>11700163
>>11700165
What about Mogamin and whatsherface?

>> No.11700169

>>11700163
>The rest are cute not because of their designs but because of their personalities.
example? Mogami.

she even reminded me of the host in Takeshi's castle.

>> No.11700174

>>11700134
No shit.
I havent seen her at all since the update when I have multiple drop of other Asashio class, akebono and ushio. It is like the game is teasing and toying with me

>> No.11700178

Lv65 Hibiki, here comes the final stretch.

>> No.11700187

What's best replacement for CLT for PVP? At this rate, Ooi will surpass Kaga in race to Level 99, and I don't want to marry a yandere.

>> No.11700192

>>11700187
Have you considered a CVL or AV? Otherwise just forget about preempt attacking

>> No.11700193

>>11700178
65 to 70 is practically a 20% of the total exp needed, you will have to suffer for a while.

>> No.11700195

>>11700187
Nothing. They're called overpowered for a reason. SS and AV can pretend to be CLT but most of the time they'll barely scratch BB without a T-cross advantage.

>> No.11700196

>>11700178
just the same amount of exp needed to get your Yuudachi to 55 from 46, you're getting there!!

>> No.11700197

>>11700192
I still have unconverted Chiyoda, though her level is too low, only 20. Maybe I'll try using her, but I can see it won't work.

>> No.11700199

>>11700187
How dare you prioritise Ooi over KTKM-sama.

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>>11700199
Who say I don't?

>> No.11700203

>>11700197
She definitely won't perform as well at all, her max torp stat is almost half of what KitaOoi K2 has, but you know, she's a replacement after all and if you don't want Ooi you probably have to restructure your fleet or go for a subpar replacement.

>> No.11700206

>>11700187
Why are you bringing easy to lvl ships to pvp?
Go level your low lvl CAV. Exp are hard to come by for them.

>> No.11700209

>>11700030
Why solo?
6 DD-s lose 6 oil at the whirlpool, I added 2 +10 sonar and 1 +8 depth charge to the flagship, with that you get 70-110 crits and MVP flagship all the time.

>> No.11700221 [DELETED] 

>>11700209
Is getting past the first node easy or do I need high lvl evasive DD?
Maybe I can level my Kiso faster at 5-3 if that is the case.

>> No.11700227

>>11700221
There is no first node, at least 75% chance to go south straight to sub node, they do crit ships below level 20 often though.
If you go east, then F5.

>> No.11700231

Is there a recommended level of ships for 1-3? Even with my well above average for this point of the game fleet, I get ships in red if I get on the boss path, making me retreat before I get to the boss, or if I get south, the BB crits my CA and I enjoy an hour of repair.

>> No.11700233

>>11700231
Yes, 4BB 2CV is always the answer for any map with no forced compass chan rule

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>> No.11700250

>>11700233
4-x with subs

>> No.11700255

>>11700250
Are subs that easy to get? I keep seeing people incorporate subs in their fleet composition. I have yet to get one as a drop or from crafting.

>> No.11700264

>>11700255
No, I mean subs can be a pain with such setup and some maps are full of them.
Also, I have 3 subs without ever popping a sub recipe. And I have like 5 Imuyas

>> No.11700271

>>11700238
I'm sure I'll feel the same way as this guy once Tenryuu gets a fitting 2nd remodel.

>> No.11700272
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11700272

Mother of god.

>> No.11700277

>>11700255
They aren't until you unlock 3-3 which drops Imuya often enough. Goya is harder to obtain and the other two aren't even available yet for the people who didn't do the event. For those that did do the event though, Iku was a freebie. Hachi is the least common sub by far.

Subs are only useful solo to obtain resources, as tanks in grinding nodes, and as a group for dailies. They aren't very useful for clearing maps in mixed compositions because the enemy ships that do the most damage can't target subs.

>> No.11700278

>>11700272
>shoukaku
No thank you. Is there a different version with other girls?

>> No.11700281

>>11700272
Carnelian 9/10

If only she would draw Kaga instead of shoukaku, it would be perfect.

>> No.11700283

>>11700278
No. Go to bed, Kaga.

>> No.11700299

Seems like RNG still didn't like me
I lost 3 ships (Kasumi, Mogami, and Nagara) and until now they didn't drop again anymore
Is this my punishment because I'm a bad Teitoku?

>> No.11700304

Do dailies at 2-3 with subs they said, solo sub they said.

>> No.11700305

Sigh, it seems that crane sister is always hated here.

Such a shame

>> No.11700306

>>11700305
They're the best though. Kaga can eat a shit

>> No.11700307

>>11700305
No, it's just vocal kagafags who can't handle any threat to their shitty kuudere.

>> No.11700310

Please stop enabling him with replies.

>> No.11700311

>>11700306
Well, I wouldn't go that far on Kaga, I mean she's still pretty good, but I just feel sad for crane sisters since they have their own charming point

>> No.11700308

>>11700305
It's just Kaga. Crane sisters are my favorite.

>> No.11700309

>>11700304
What is the problem?
Your subs too shitty?

>> No.11700312

>>11700304
But you don't do the dailies with a solo sub.

>> No.11700313

>>11700305
>>11700306
>>11700307
>>11700308
I like all three.

Come at me bros.

>> No.11700314

>>11700305
I cant like something that I dont have.
What are you? Some kind of secondary?

>> No.11700317

>>11700313
I like all 6 carriers, what now?

>> No.11700318
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>>11700313
No no, I have no beef with people who have more love to share.

>> No.11700319

>>11700314
You must be some kind of pleb.

>> No.11700324

>>11700313
I actually like all carriers, it's just that the crane sisters are my favorite.

>> No.11700325

>>11700318
Sigh, if only I was more well prepared for that event, I could have gotten Hachi...

>> No.11700329

Is it worth to upgrade your BB to BBV?
My Hyuuga is already past it's level yo upgrade and I'm kind of worried if that means longer repair time

>> No.11700335

>>11700329
She's a slow battleship already, it won't increase her repair time.

>> No.11700337

>>11700329
Only one reason not to, and that's that a BBV ceases to fulfill BB requirements for quests and such.

>> No.11700344

>>11700335
>>11700337
She's overleveled, currently she is lvl 30
I assume that the upgrade will be at lv 25, but reread the wiki and it only lv 10

>> No.11700345

>>11700272
I don't suppose this will be sold outside of Comiket?

>> No.11700348 [DELETED] 

>>11700344
Fusou and Yamashiro are 20 though, it's Ise and Hyuuga that are 10.

>> No.11700362
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11700362

>>11700227
Cool.
I misread it and thought it was 5-3. This will really speed up my kai2.

>> No.11700374

Hmm, I still think the color for the bar in KV is bad even though there's black background in the bar.

I'm thinking about this: Instead of being gradient, I will set 4 distinct color so it's easier to distinguish between

0-25% = blue
25-50% = green
50%-75% = yellow
75%-100% = red (which will be orange-ish thanks to windows 7 shiny bar effect)

Thoughts? Or right now is just fine?

>> No.11700398

>>11700374
I'd love to see names translated, even if just for the more common ships like the BBs, CVs and Ooi/KTKM/Shimakaze at first.

>> No.11700423

>>11700374
>>11700398
I want smaller UI

>> No.11700436

So I have like 10 Kongou sisters and I'm thinking of leveling up then remodel them for the 41cm and 15.5cm gun. Thought?

>> No.11700438

>>11700436
not worth it. when you start crafting for 46cm you'll soon swim in 41cm

>> No.11700440

>>11700436
Waste of resources.
BB eat tons of ammo and fuel to sortie. Might as well use them to craft.

>> No.11700443

How to have enough bauxite to feed Akagi?

>> No.11700446

>>11700443
She's not really that expensive, is she? I've been running Akagi all day and my bauxite has only went up.

>> No.11700447

>>11700299
>Mogami

Just never play again.

>> No.11700449

>>11700299
There are ships you just don't lose under any circumstances, and mogamin is one of them.

>> No.11700450

>>11700438
>>11700440
Hm, good points, guess I should drop this idea. Thanks.

>> No.11700451

>>11700446
Stop doing 3-2-1 with Akagi.
Do a manly map like 3-4 with her and see.

>> No.11700454

>>11700451
I don't have 3-4 unlocked because I'm still grinding Kai DDs for 3-2.

>> No.11700455

>>11700443
You need to do more research on where to find bauxite yourself. It's not hard to figure out where to get resources when there's only 3 ways to get them reliably.

>> No.11700459

Does positioning matter for anything aside from flagship?

>> No.11700463

>>11700459
Yes

>> No.11700465

>Верный
Oh yes. Are there any more Japanese ships that were handed over to russkies?

>> No.11700466

>>11700463
Would you mind elaborating?

>> No.11700471

>>11700465
Harutsuki, a Fuytsuki class DD under the Akizuki class was handed over the Soviets and was renamed Внезапный.

>> No.11700473

>>11700466
Use a battleship in your fleet and pay close attention to the order in which your ships attack.
Go to night battle too.

>> No.11700476

>>11700473
Will do, thanks.

>> No.11700479

>>11700471
Nice. I hope she'll get implemented someday.

>> No.11700480

>>11700473
I've noticed that in my current fleet, my battleship (2nd) attacks first, it goes down the list, and then my flagship attacks twice in a row.

>> No.11700489

>>11700480
Then the order of firing would be 2,3,4,5,6,1,1,2,3,4,5,6
for a complete, long battle.
If you enter Night battle the order of firing will be 1,2,3,4,5,6.
Naturally, depending on the state of your ships some will find themselves unable to actively participate in battle.

>> No.11700495

>>11700489
And I'm only referring to your current fleet here.
In general, the first round is decided by the range of ships, the second and night battle are just 1-6.

>> No.11700496

>>11700489
I've got a sub in my third slot so it's actually just 2,4,5,6,1,1,2,4,5,6

>> No.11700499

>>11700480
>>11700489
Here let me spoonfeed you.
Check your ships 射程. See which ships with what 射程 goes first.

>> No.11700506

>>11700496
Asides from the 2nd shelling phase from having a BB present and night battle, position of ships in your fleet do not really matter.

>> No.11700524

>>11700398
>I'd love to see names translated
it should be done in a week or so.
faster if someone could help me write the required code.

>> No.11700527

Another admiral's Yudachi just put 53 damage on my Fusou in one salvo. I've never seen a destroyer hit a battleship that hard.

I guess her stats are that of a heavy cruiser, so it's to be expected, but still. Can't fuck with the ppoi.

>> No.11700530

>>11700527
>Fusou
No wonder.

>> No.11700534

>>11700530
It's still 89 armor. Even the Nagatos cap out at 95.

>> No.11700537

>>11700524
It's just a simple code to parse the kanji the game gives into English letters, right? I'd help but I can't even remember the few courses I took in Python.

>> No.11700539

>>11700527
Poi is strong

>> No.11700545

>>11700537
yes, but not for the non-programmer like me.

currently stuck on comparing the string against string array and pick the second column if the lines contain a match.

>> No.11700571
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11700571

Just look at the gaijin's face.

>> No.11700572

NHK English ran a 10 minute thing on KanColle, featuring a hairy American gaijin:

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/tv/imagine/arch.html

>> No.11700580

Are cut-ins really better than double attacks?

>> No.11700582

>>11700580
If they trigger, hit and crit?
Yes.
In any other scenario, no.

>> No.11700583

>>11700580
Yes

>> No.11700588

>>11700580
Better in the sense that they'll do more damage if they proc. But they dont proc often enough unless you have someone with shit tons of luck like yukikaze. Every other case you're better off with double attacks.

>> No.11700590

>>11700545
Hey there, I could try and help perhaps. To compare string, don't you just need function called String.equals(string1, string2)? That should give you boolean result

If you have string array, then you can say something like this string[index[ to give you string in that specified index, which you can compare later on

Alternatively, if this instruction seems bullshitty or confusing to you, show me a screencaps of your code and I'll see what I can do

>> No.11700592

>>11700572
Just listening to this makes me feel awkward and it's not even badly done.

>> No.11700593

Also, do yellow guns increase accuracy, or is that bs?

>> No.11700594

>>11700582
I was under the impression they always hit and crit whenever they trigger, but don't mind me I only see cut-ins from Yukikaze and Shigure.

>> No.11700598

>>11700593
It clearly says that in the stats

>> No.11700596

>>11700592
watching it makes me uncomfortable, it's the way they explain the game and it's "girls that are ships". it just sounds really silly.

>> No.11700597

>>11700580
Cut-in is only useful on high luck DD.
Torpedo stats also help them during the torpedo phase.

>> No.11700601

>>11700580
it depends on the cut in set up. Half the cut ins do worse damage than double attacks.

>> No.11700602

>>11700596
That's what we get for playing an inherently dumb game.

>> No.11700605

>>11700572
>dokkan
LEL, you cant stop the naka-chan

>> No.11700610

>>11700602
the half-moon girl next to the gaijin is what makes me most uncomfortable. when they're explaining how the girls' clothes get torn off as they become damaged, she's just sitting there smiling, and I know that's just their Japanese tatamae (politeness) shit kicking in. deep inside her mind, she's thinking "these guys are fucking creepy".

>> No.11700614

So which map would 3 CLTs be actually useful?

I tried 4-4 and 5-2 but the lack of a BB made shelling phase a nightmare.

>> No.11700615

>>11700614
3-4
Maybe you can finally 1shot the TA class BB during the preemptive phase.

>> No.11700617

>>11700614
>>11700615
Why would you drop BBs instead of CVs?

>> No.11700618

And finally, Hiei dropped. Now I have all four fleets.

>> No.11700622

>>11700618
mine's taking forever to drop. she just doesn't want to show up for me.

>> No.11700620

>>11700598
But looking at the stat, I can't find an accuracy counter at all?

I can see the stat on the equipments, is the stat hidden on ships or something?

>> No.11700629

Can I clear 2-4 without subs?

>> No.11700630

>>11700629
You can clear 2-4 with a fleet of 6 lv1 ships.

>> No.11700632
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11700632

>>11700620
Here you go

>> No.11700634

>got into 2-4 boss nodes
>connection lost in the middle of fighting
>reload, see many kanmusu heavily damaged
>still didn't clear the map
>mfw

I don't think RNG will that generous to allow me to go 2-4 boss that easily again

>> No.11700637

>>11700398
>>11700423
Oops I dozed off

The name huh, seems like Musashi is working on it right now, but I could try as well (although it seems like Musashi is doing better work than me)

>> No.11700645

>>11700634
>green text everything
>that's what you get

>> No.11700664

I need some help with the huge ass name list.

Basically, in that pastebin, that is the result of literally copy pasting this page http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Ship_list

The result is a huge mess, but I think it's salvageable. I was thinking about using regex to do this, but I given up hope on this, so I think manual labor (I mean, volunteer) is most likely required.

http://pastebin.com/A1CdZVdN

If you can help me with this, that would be awesome, so I could focus on the coding instead of doing this list

Unless Musashi (this guy >>11700545) already made his/her own clean name list somewhere, then can I borrow it instead? I mean, you did mention second column, which is in similar format of what I am aiming for

>> No.11700671
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11700671

Yeah, I can change their japanese name to english now.

Now I need that clean name table...

>> No.11700680

>>11700664
>>11700671
I'm working on it, running a simple script on a txt.
Note that you will need someone to double check, I can't tell the kanji apart, but it should work alright.
Will copy into pastebin in less than 1h

>> No.11700682

>>11700664
>>11700671
let's use your code instead.

for the nametable, i've done ~40% of it.
the format is txt and comma delimited (e.g 長門,Nagato).

>> No.11700687

>>11700680
Thanks man, appreciate it

>>11700682
Ah, comma works as well although I used space in my pastebin (it doesn't matter that much really, as long as there are separator). I guess we'll wait for >>11700680

Meanwhile, care to show me what you did so far?

>> No.11700697

>>11700687
http://pastebin.com/pJYqG20P
i don't know whether space as delimiter is a good idea since it would be awkward to see I-58-Kai rather than I-58 Kai.

>> No.11700700

Can anyone redirect me to the source where it says you need 2CV1CVL to ensure you go to the boss node at 5-2?

>> No.11700707

>>11700697
Ah good point, note taken

>> No.11700711

>>11700700
http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C6%EE%CA%FD%B3%A4%B0%E8

>> No.11700714

>>11700632
I know it's on the weapons, so do you assume all ships start with an accuracy of 0?

>> No.11700718

>>11700711
>branching rules in a dropdown menu
Well that was retarded of me, thanks anyway.

>> No.11700719

>>11700632
What >>11700620 was trying to say is that the ship itself doesn't have accuracy stats at all.

Meaning that depending of the ship, you might not need to stack that much of accuracy than another (so less need of radar for example), assuming ships don't have the same accuracy stats.

>> No.11700722

>>11700714
Oh if that's what you mean, then sure I guess we do start with "0" accuracy

>>11700719
Yeah, I got it after his latest reply

>> No.11700724

Not that anon who started but here:
http://pastebin.com/zUKWHurJ

Did with some easy regex.

>> No.11700730

>>11700714
No but I my gut feeling tell me that some ships have shit accuracy. I was cheaping out on fuel/ammo to level my ship for 3-2 so I used Ise. She keeps missing even with 2radar on her type14+type33. So I just say fuck it and decided to pay slightly more and use Haruna.

>> No.11700738

>>11700724
Goddammit that's awesome, I'm curious about the script, but that's probably gonna confuse me even more

Although... If you don't mind, can you use comma instead of space as a separator between english and japanese name?

Reason:>>11700697

>> No.11700752

>>11700738
http://pastebin.com/CmgCX5JW
Here, some Kai-s not included though, I guess these are only the ones with library entry.

>> No.11700755

>>11700752
Ayy that's awesome, I'll double check 'em very soon, I think I almost got the code working now

>> No.11700758

>>11700755
Maybe you could add Kai to ship name if there is 改 when parsing so no need to add every ship name twice.

>> No.11700765

>>11700758
Good point, although I was gonna be lazy slob and just literally compare everything on the table.

But yeah, I'll try to make it less process intensive, I suppose

>> No.11700786

>>11700765
Any ETA? The way you're talking it sounds like you'll have it pushed out in a few hours.

>> No.11700790

http://www.eienno-zero.jp/index.html
Akagi makes her debut in this movie.

>> No.11700797

>>11700786
For the one without kai lookup (aka the quick and dirty method), probably soon, ie 0.5-2 hours from now

>> No.11700818

>>11700797
So will non-translated Kai ships appear as "English改" or as "雷改"

>> No.11700826

>>11700818
Nah, they will be "English Kai", it's just programming side really (optimized code, that's what I mean)

>> No.11700831

the updated datatable, including Kai2: http://pastebin.com/amtgwK5V

>> No.11700833

>>11700826
It's not like you're making an actual game, code optimization probably isn't an extremely high priority for a little widget like KV.

>> No.11700853
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11700853

IT'S WORKING. WHY KAGA IS AKAGI BUT ANYWAY IT WORKS (yeah, I'll need to double check their name now, I'm using this pastebin by the way >>11700831 so double check this one instead)

>>11700831
Thanks man, I was wondering why my akagi kai didn't display correctly, and then I realized, there was no Akagi-Kai explicit entry in this table >>11700752
(clearly I didn't read his message correctly)

>> No.11700860

Does kancolle viewer comes with a map clear and drop loot log? Or is it just a widget to see fatigue and health level?

>> No.11700868

>>11700860
Just a useful widget to check all of your taps without navigating to them, saves a lot of time on checking expeditions and repairs. Also tells you what you're building before it's built, and shows you the precise amount of EXP you need when you're not at a combat clear screen.
Those would be neat features, but I don't see a massive point in them, you can easily record that with Notepad or any other word proccesor.

>> No.11700877
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11700877

So why haven't you completed your final page yet, admirals?

>> No.11700882

>>11700877
because I only started recently and had no way to get Musashi

>> No.11700884

>>11700853
any ETA on the source code? can't wait to test the code.

>>11700877
i don't like the Kongou-class Kai2 design.

>> No.11700885

>>11700877
Because not everyone is a NEET and actually couldn't complete the events

>> No.11700886

>>11700877
I just got Kiso yesterday.
You expect me to hit 65 in a day?

>> No.11700889
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11700889

>>11700877
Soon..

>> No.11700892
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11700892

>>11700877
Cuz some of Kai2 are not worth leveling.

>> No.11700896

http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Recent_Updates#comm-19560

and this is why I do not trust the english wiki.
Superior japanese wiki master race reporting in.
Not surprised though, they're already making a forum.

>> No.11700897

Done:
https://mega.co.nz/#!ZNtW2Z4Q!NF6EHxhiCIw0O7AO9Kv5BDigMkIOGEMmQJakreKVFlw

Code:
https://mega.co.nz/#!FMUE3KrK!buVkwCONAYUaGaCfIeMj2nIsuq8pDXxmZSNAsBvnltw

Now what's left to translate is the equipment

>> No.11700898

>>11700892
Pretty sure that No.140 will be Sakawa
I hope dev won't make another E-6

>> No.11700904

>>11700897
Well, I went ahead and did this, hope it helps: http://pastebin.com/ghZAXwVc

>> No.11700906

>>11700898
Arent they going to put in Taiho together with large ship construction?

>> No.11700908

>>11700904
Damn, nice.

I'm pretty tired right now though, and I'll be busy tomorrow, so I might not make that soon. But I will do it sometime (as in less than 2 days) unless someone wants to take over

>> No.11700911

>>11700906
most likely new glossary pages. Taihou is likely the same level as Yamato and Musashi so she needs 2 slots, normal and Kai, like Yamato and Musashi. They already did the internal work to extend the glossary pages after all.

>> No.11700918

>>11700911
Well fuck I really need to buy dock space if they are adding so many ships.
Does logging in into their english CC page refreshes the API link?

>> No.11700919

>>11700908
I could try and do it if you don't mind, should I use the source code here >>11700897?

>> No.11700924

>>11700919
You probably should. Look at ShipInfo and ShipType code file (inside KancolleWrapper) to see how to translate from jap name to eng name

>> No.11700925
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11700925

Finally, delicious Bep-chan get.

>> No.11700926

>>11700918
I really have no idea. I haven't renewed my API link even once since I started a month and a week ago. I did let someone else on my account to register a CC so it is extremely unlikely that the API changes unless you also log into the game on the dmm page.

>> No.11700930

>>11700925
Her right eye still bothers me.

>> No.11700933

>>11700918
If I remember correctly, as long as you don't log into your game, the api link would not change.

>> No.11700934

>>11700930
yeah, for some reason, it looks like the iris is... cat-like for a lack of better terl

>> No.11700936

>>11700897
Thanks for your work.
There is an error for Hiei Kai2, should be 比叡改二,Hiei Kai2 in the txt, anyone can easily fix their file and switch her out and in to update the text.

>> No.11700941

>>11700918
You can't use the API link to buy from the in game store. So you have to refresh the API link regardless.

>> No.11700949

>>11700926
>>11700933
>I did let someone else on my account to register a CC so it is extremely unlikely that the API changes unless you also log into the game on the dmm page.
How did you buy points though? I thought you need to login with vpn to buy points? So basically my API stay the same even if I log in into another DMM app?

>> No.11700953

>>11700925
Did you really use your furniture token on that curtain rather than a different table?

>> No.11700955

>>11700949
Buy the points first without VPN, after which use VPN to log into your game to spend them. I think I did it that way. http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Shop

>> No.11700960

>>11700953
Still waiting on a table that actually looks good.

>> No.11700961

>>11700949
I was on VPN when I bought the points after I let someone else register their CC. I paid them via paypal afterward since I don't own a CC of my own. dmm is completely retarded to not accept paypal.

>> No.11700970

>>11700961
Considering how bank works in Japan, paypal is outright useless for japanese and since we gaijin aren't supposed to play the game, there is no reason for them to introduce an international payment method.

what's surprising is that DMM still has its oversea website page despite it is void of any content, save their engrish stuff.

>> No.11700973

>>11700970
I didn't know that japanese banks are outright making paypal useless. how exactly is this?

>> No.11700974
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11700974

>>11700941
Done the first step.
Now I am just worried about getting banned from VPN login. I hope they arent that stupid to ban a paying customer.

>> No.11700984
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11700984

So guys, who's that one kanmusu who's keeping you from completing several quests at once?

>> No.11700989

>>11700974
I wonder why people couldn't register theirs.

>> No.11700990

>>11700984
Tenryuu sisters. I had to replace them with heavy cruisers from 2-1 onwards because they get wrecked every goddamn time.

>> No.11700994

>>11700973
Any transaction between a Japanese bank and an oversea individual/company is fastidious and with extra fee at the end of the tunnel.
Add also paypal inherent percentage on any transaction and you wouldn't really get anything worthwhile.

There is no reason to pay extra for an oversea service that doesn't benefit a single bit their only demographic, the nips.

This is one of the reasons why jp auctionners often put oversea shipping unavailable by default. Aside of the obvious language barrier and international shipping issue, it is just a pain for payments and so forth.

>> No.11701000

>>11700989
I used amex. they probably don't accept debit card.

>> No.11701006

>>11700994
and to add something I forgot to mention: Japanese banks are pretty much relying on their own transfer system.
That's the reason why in some case, despite the japanese website shows that they accept Visa, MC etc, it doesn't work, because they have their very own Visa, MC jp brand.

The only "surefire" credit card is the amex. Otherwise, you are bound to check if they accept gaijin visa.

>> No.11701007

>>11701000
They accepted my debit card.

>> No.11701008

>>11700984
Fucking Shoukaku.

>> No.11701015
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11701015

>>11697724
In the end I've decided to skip the two character pages. They don't really have much in them.

>> No.11701022

>>11701015
Missed a little text. The one next to Sendai on the top left panel is "That's..."

>> No.11701025

>>11700896
Disgusting normal fucking fags.

I do not hate the English Wiki but I hate those faggots who posts there. Especially the one who made that disgusting forum.

>> No.11701030

>>11700896

I can't read japanese, so I have to use the english one. I agree that's filled with kids, but ehy at least the content is fine.

>> No.11701035

>>11701030
The comments are all but fine, I believe. Misinformation like that tends to spread and cause a lot of players to behave paranoid. Once they notice it was misinformation they will also become paranoid towards actual legit information from the same source, in this case, the english wiki.

>> No.11701043

>>11701035
Who cares about those cancers, it's their problem.

They even associate their selves to /jp/ by posting a direct link there.

>> No.11701045

Any ideas when the event starts? next week or after that

>> No.11701046

>>11701035

By content I mean the actual data, not the comments.

>> No.11701047

>>11701045
Near Christmas/New Years Eve.

>> No.11701050

>>11701047
Spending holidays with Kancolle? you bet I will.

>> No.11701054

>>11700896
You're literally posting in a forum right now.

>> No.11701057

>>11701054
"Forum" can mean more than one thing, retard.

>> No.11701059

>>11701057
An Internet forum, or message board, is an online discussion site where people can hold conversations in the form of posted messages.

>> No.11701062

>>11701059
You are proving my point here. "Forum" can also mean a site with discussion which revolve around user identity.

>> No.11701063

>>11701057

You're not refuting his point in any way, you're just saying something obvious with no further explanation and then calling him a retard, you migth as well just call him a retard to save time, or just dont reply at all.

>> No.11701066

Please stop talking about semantics.
How reliable is 4-4 farming for Nagato? So far I went to the boss 2/2 tries, but I have the feeling the compass will shit on me very soon.

>> No.11701068

Remember when the only thing people bitched about the wiki was the color scheme?

Good times.

>> No.11701069

>>11701063
I'm calling out his obvious misunderstanding of the word "forum" in this context. Trying to be clever with showing off alternative meaning of it is indeed retarded.

>> No.11701070

>>11701068
Remember when we didn't even have one? Because everyone was lazy as shit

>> No.11701071

>>11700896
How's that any different from the content here?
Aside from having usernames and such.

>> No.11701072

>>11701069
An Internet forum, or message board, is an online discussion site where people can hold conversations in the form of posted messages.

Some of them are anonymous and some of them are not. Big fucking deal.

>> No.11701074

>>11701070
No, it was because back then most of the people in /jp/ either knew moon or just made do with machine translations and the handful of infographics that get posted within the thread.

>> No.11701077

>>11701072
And you're also proving my point.
>Big fucking deal.
If that's the case, why do you visit /jp/ instead of animesuki?

>> No.11701078

>>11701077
>If that's the case, why do you visit /jp/ instead of animesuki?
Because I'm not here to discuss anime. If they have a Kancolle thread I don't know about it.

>> No.11701080

>>11701071
I can't talk about wanting to lick Yubari's navel anonymously

>> No.11701081

>>11701072
Fuck off, Wiki faggot. You don't belong here.

Return to whence you came cancer.

>> No.11701082

>>11701074
Most of the people on /jp/ still do that.
It's just the crossboarders that don't.

>> No.11701084

>>11701080
I want to rub my face against her navel.

>> No.11701085

>>11701081
I've been posting in /jp/ since 2009 and started several of the Kancolle threads in /jp/ back in August.

>> No.11701086

>>11701080
I'm pretty sure no one there would mind, considering the wiki is rife with hilarious memes. If someone post that there, I'm sure it would generate alot of likes.

>> No.11701087

>>11700896
A containment place is fine with me. Whatever it takes to get people away from these threads

>> No.11701089

>>11701081

I dont know WHAT exactly you're going for with this post, you do know you can't really scare away someone on the internet? If you want to drive people away from these threads you'd have to constantly shit post, ruining the quality of the entire thread and ruining it for yourself in the process.

>> No.11701090

>>11701086
This is bait.

>> No.11701091

>>11701071
Of course, I do not believe info on /jp/ that has no official source either. However, the wiki is like a breeding ground for stupid posts like the one that was linked, while /jp/, though having stupid posts of it's own, is mostly free of blatant misinformation that is not clearly obviously trolling.

>> No.11701092

>>11701086
Rest in peace wiki

>> No.11701095

>>11700984
That damn quest, they get rekt every time i try to run 2-3, i even try'd going with 2 subs as support but they simply can't withstand the closing torpedo attack and end up in the red even with defensive formation, plus boss node has a BB and a CV, i don't really want to waste resources on them.

>> No.11701096

>>11701090
I'm being ironic, but the point still stands. It's the exact same content as /jp/ except with usernames attached to each post. Complaining about inferior quality is meaningless when the quality is exactly the same.

>> No.11701097

>>11701080
It would probably taste really sweet.

>> No.11701100

>>11701096
Your ironic post proves otherwise.

>> No.11701102

>>11701097
Sweet like honey?

>> No.11701105

>>11701084
You must go further.

You know what to do.

>> No.11701106

>>11701095
Just modernize their torp and armor and you're good to go. You can even let them sink during the sortie if you want.

>> No.11701107

>>11701100
How so?
Just look at this amazing conversation about Yubbari's navel (lol melons). You honestly can't tell me this sort of thing wouldn't fit right in on the wiki.

>> No.11701109

>>11701096
You shouldn't have anything against memes. Pretty much all Kancolle humor is built on memes in some way or another.

>> No.11701110

>>11700896
>and this is why I do not trust the english wiki.
I don't understand what do you mean by that?

If you mean something is a misinformation there,some guy here tricked me into doing 40-80h expeditions for the Nazi plane, but I didn't whine or something.It was my own retardation.

>> No.11701113

Guys, can I impregnate Yubari through her navel?

This is a serious question

>> No.11701115

>>11701110
Wasn't there also people that said the quest would disappear once the event was over? Yeah, fuck you guys.

>> No.11701117

>>11701109
I don't have anything against them.
Yuubari's melons are great. My personal favorite is the Ryuujou flat meme.

>> No.11701126

>>11701095
Strange, I did it on my third try (first time reaching the boss, others I got sent N or S). Used a BB and CLT as support.
What I'm still lacking is the Kinugasa one. All ships are underleveled (except for Tenryuu) and I still didn't muster the courage to level, remodel and modernize everyone. I know too well how 2-3 really works but it's still a pain.

>> No.11701130

>>11701015
>I prefer to sleep under the sun
Sendai's tastes are impeccable. Sleeping under the sun during late spring/summer is the coziest thing I can imagine.

Come to think about it, it's great to sleep in front of an old stove during winter, too. You don't even need a bed, a blanket and a sufficiently thick carpet is enough.

>> No.11701149

Trying to clear 204 with my i-58, are there any recommended recipes for turbines?

>> No.11701155

>>11701149
100/300/250/10 I think. Main recipe for 46cm but turbines are a side-product. That said, they are very rare though.

>> No.11701163

>>11701155
Is using lv42 Nagato as flagship fine for this recipe?

>> No.11701167

>>11701163
She's a BB so no problem. What's your HQ level? The higher it is, the better equipment you will make.

>> No.11701171

>>11701167
HQ level 26 atm.

Any places for leveling Ooi? I kinda wanna get her to CLT to help clear 2-4 but then again that might not be such a good idea.

>> No.11701175

>>11701171
Have you considered leveling in 2-4?

>> No.11701174
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For all the admirals that still can't clear 2-4: stop wasting resources for crafting and start exping your kanmusu in 2-4 node A till they're refitted and have 5 stars.
The common way to clear it is with 4 BB and 2 CV/CVL, there's no need for game breaking ships like Nagato sisters, Shoukaku sisters or any of the rarest kanmusu, the most common one will do since with the right strategy and equip they'll do fine.
This is my winning fleet, Fusou/Yamashiro are common drop and Ise/Hyuga drop often in 2-4 node A, the only one you really need to farm for is Akagi, she really helps, Mogamin was an extra since i had no CVL high enough to make a difference, and i really wanted to clear that map asap so went with her.

Regarding eqiupemnt, all 4 BB had Zuiun with 3 cannons, i don't remember atm but probably used other stuff like 20cm cannons to fill up spaces since had very few 41/35cm cannons at the time, Akagi was equipped with 2 red planes and 2 blue planes (red on last 2 slots), Mogamin had 2 20cm cannons and 2 Zuiun (night battle double attack helps for the killing blow).
The strat is easy, when you get all your fleet ready (remember: refit+5star+decent gear) go to 2-4 and try till you can get the right route (A > K > L > O > J, A > F > G > I > J), any other route = F5 or retire after the first battle since you wont be able to reach the boss with enough resources, or you'll just waste time reaching a side node.
For the actual progress, always use Line Abreast formation, after day battle push forward and don't seek night battle (left button) to save resources, if any of your kanmusu goes in the red before the boss node you'll probably want to retire, i'll leave this decision to your judgement.
For boss node use Line Ahead, the planes should help a ton with initial bombing phase and clean out any CL/DD or at least damage any BB/CA, pray the RNG goddess and go night battle if you didn't kill the boss right away.

Good Luck

>> No.11701182

>>11701174
>For the actual progress, always use Line Abreast formation
If you're running around with high firepower and preempts, it's probably better to just line ahead even on non-boss nodes. That's what I did at least.

>> No.11701183

>>11701174
Brute-forced it with 2CLT/4CA. Good luck grinding to get 4 BBs.

>> No.11701186

>>11701171
>HQ lvl 26
>Nagato lvl42
Lucky bastard.

2-4-A is pretty nice. You can get Shimakaze from drop too.

>> No.11701191

>>11701174
>>11701171
here.

Yeah I've been alternating between i-58 cheesing and leveling my main fleet of Nagato/Ise/Hiei/Akagi. Been filling the last 2 slots with Atago and Takao but I'm rather unhappy with how heavies fair at 2-4.

I got Mutsu from construction today though, should I add her to that fleet? I haven't bothered leveling any other BB aside from the 3 mentioned above. I'll probably add some CVL since I don't have any other CV.

>> No.11701198

>>11701174
>4 BB
That's already game-breaking for me.

>> No.11701200

>>11701175
Seeing as my CAs take quite a bit of a beating even as remodeled 3 stars, I'm kinda scared of using a CL in there. I'll give that a try though, been letting Ooi get trickle exp from expeditions.

>>11701186
Y-yes, Nagato and Mutsu from construction, Shimakaze from 2-4-A spam.

>> No.11701230
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>>11697608
Here we go again.

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>>11697615

>> No.11701243

>>11701200
mfw I am lvl 99 and I still don't have Nagato... day 73 now.

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>>11697635
I can't stop hearing Kongou's lines in broken english.

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>>11697638

>> No.11701254
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>>11697657
Missing a line between Inazuma hitting Miyuki. Miyuki killcount is 3 for 3.

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>>11697669
Boybutt.

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>>11697679

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>>11697695

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>>11697724
The crane sisters really stole the background this time.

>> No.11701288

>>11701254
Just "Ouch"

>> No.11701295

>>11701191
If you can afford the fuel/ammo cost why not, Mutsu and Nagato are the strongest BB available through craft, and even at level 30~35, if you can get some 41cm cannons and Type 91 bullets, you'll most likely one hit any ship, even a BB, and since you already have Akagi you can fill the last slot with anything, for example, putting i-58 might be a good idea for tanking DD/CL with line abreast and evade any chip damage from pre-boss nodes, or go Atago with a double attack setup (2x red) and fill up the other slots with planes to get stats and help with opening attack.

>> No.11701300

>>11701200
here again.

Followed >>11701174 and went ahead with Nagato/Ise/Hiei/Akagi/Takao/Atago, only Akagi not remodeled. With a bit of improv and 41cms on my BBs, I cleared the map on one try with only Ise getting to red and Nagato in yellow. Thanks guys.

>> No.11701306

>>11701300
welp gj

>> No.11701317

>>11701306
Figured that between my guns and resources I would have made it. Got a free Kongou on the last node too. 2 more to go for the last fleet. It's mostly area 2 nodes for those 2 right?

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>>11701317
Use Imuya solo to beat 2-4 is a good idea I think. 2-3 boss node can net you all the Kongous by the way.

>> No.11701330
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>>11701015
The character pages were already getting repetitive so I guess it's no big deal. In closing, I wanna sleep on Hiryuu sensei's lap.

>> No.11701333

>>11701330
Are you Tamon Maru?

>> No.11701338

>>11701182
Not really. You're still probably going to get hit at least once or twice in the battle in the nodes vs multiple BBs/CVs so having the armor to turn that into scratch damage at worst and the evasion to negate most of the few hits you do get is incredibly important. Additionally, the preemptive airstrike doesn't give a fuck about your formation, so you'll still get the same prebattle waveclear, and you're essentially guaranteed to make it to the boss with minimal damage unless you didn't bother modernizing or compass fucks you over.

Line Ahead is great for getting S-ranks, but on the way to 2-4 boss you don't give a fuck what rank you get before the boss node, just that you get there with as much health as possible.

It really surprises me how little people actually think about formation. Line Ahead is great, but it's not the only one, and it's far from a one-size-fits-all formation. Same as idiots in every game who think maximum damage is the only useful tactic, I guess?

>> No.11701342

>>11701317
World 3 drops more of them often.

>> No.11701344

>>11701338
You start caring about it beyond 2-4 anyways.

>> No.11701345

>>11701329
My only SS atm is Goya, which is actually my 2nd because I somehow fucked up and sunk my first Goya. I was using her to try to beat 2-4 but I always lost at the 1st or 2nd node. Good enough to swap with 2-4-A grinding which I did with my main fleet though. I was trying for a turbine, I think I'll still work on that so I can do solo sub fuel runs or something.

I see Kongous drop from 3-2 as well, so between that and 2-3 I'll see which doesn't cost as much for leveling other ships.

>> No.11701359

It is just me or the screenshot button in Kancolle Viewer doesn't work?

>> No.11701362
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Subs are fucking great for resources, damn. I wish I had more.

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>>11701345
Not only you got nagato/mutsu but also goya? fuck rng seriously, i spitted blood to get my first imuya, and i'm still wasting 2k resources every day with rare dd/ss recipe for goya.

>> No.11701370

>>11701362
>>11701367
Oh.

>> No.11701375

>>11701362
They make good poor man's CLT too. Pretty useful in some maps.

>> No.11701381

>>11701367
Some people just have all the luck, it cant be helped

>> No.11701394

>>11701367
>>11701381
Is it really that hard to roll for goya? I can understand nagato and mutsu sorta from reading the rest of the posts, but I didn't know goya rolling was as bad as those as well, seeing as I managed to get a 2nd one to replace the one I sunk accidentally.

>> No.11701412

>>11701394
Same, after my 3rd Goya craft in a row, I think there's something wrong with it.

>> No.11701416

>>11701394
Not him, but 85 attempts and 5 Imuyas, no Goya.

I've only been trying with dailies though.

>> No.11701422

So for CL, is it better to leave the 14cm as their main gun and have a 20cm in the other slots simply for the firepower boost? Or are those hidden stat things meaningless and packing only 20s is the way to go?

>> No.11701439

What's an effective setup for 4-3?
Because depending on pathing, I need a strong asw or an armored to teeth fleet.

>> No.11701450

>>11701416
It took me 3 weeks of 4x dailies to get my only Goya.I haven't tried since.

>> No.11701454

>>11701439
The torpedo sisters are enough for the subs.
It's not like you have to kill them.
I took Atago and Maya for CAs, and had the rest as BBs.

>> No.11701456

>>11701439

1 or 2 asw ships is more than enough for me, and they're usually dodging gods so they dont really get in the way.

>> No.11701458

Ships nobody cares about, by class:

Kongou-class: Haruna 大丈夫です
Aviation BBs: all of them lol
Carriers: dragons
Light Carriers: Shouhou + Izumo Maru
CruDiv 6: ... all of them? Kinugasa?
Myokou-class: name ship
Nagara-class: name ship
Sendai-class: Jintsu
Mutsuki-class: Mikazuki
Fubuki/Ayanami-class: everyone
Hatsuhara-class: black suits
Shiratsuyu-class: name ship
Asashio-class: entire class
Kagerou-class: Kuroshio

Discuss.

>> No.11701466

>>11701317
Go unlock 3-2 now, 3-1 is a joke, and start spamming 3-2 Node A using 1 or 2 CV with only blue planes, 1 or 2 BB and 2 random ships to exp (the one you want to exp in the flagship slot), Kongou sisters drop very often from perfect s rank, and you'll get good exp without incurring in major damages, things will improve when you'll be able to swap out extra ships (bb) for a torpedo cruiser with type a minisubs equipped.

After unlocking 3-2 you should focus on Ooi/Kitakami, since their opening torpedo attack makes a difference in most battles, and Chiyoda/Chitose for type A torpedoes from their lv12 refit.
Cool stuff about 3-2 is that you'll always go north since south nodes are accessible only with a 6xDD fleet, after first battle retire, don't go to the last node since you'll most likely get trashed, that node is filled with elite CA/CV/BB.

>> No.11701472

>>11701458
>Shouhou
This makes me sad.

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>>11701458

>> No.11701476

>>11701458

Plenty care about Haruna, and I personally like the Asashios.

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>>11701458

>Kuroshio
>Every Asashio

Nigger I will kill you to death

>> No.11701487

>>11701458
>Aviation BBs: all of them lol
Are they ignored that much? I really enjoy all four of them, and they do get a fair bit of attention.

Still need to finish up Yamashiro before I can train Ise and Hyuga, though.

>> No.11701489

>>11701439
iirc i went with: Akagi, Kaga, Kongou, Haruna, Yuubari (Ai) and Kitakami
cleared 4-2 and 4-3 with this same fleet only 2-3 tries, still have to go 4-4 because i am lazy and want to farm more buckets for the event.

>> No.11701509

>>11701487

The great thing about Ise and Hyuuga is their lvl10 remodel, they're ready to max everything pretty much as soon as you get them

>> No.11701517

>>11701489
You're lucky, I went all around the fucking map until I put 2 CVs.

>> No.11701518

>>11701480
It's true. YAGG get all the attention and Kuroshio is just there.

>> No.11701524

>>11701517
Disregard that, I'm retarded

>> No.11701521

>>11701509
You can also modernize them from the get-go and keep them as battleships, since they don't lose too much performance from that. I went with that for Fuso and Ise, and they're doing pretty well so far.

>> No.11701528 [DELETED] 

>>11701466
I usually exp 3-2 or 3-3 first node with this setup since except ktkm i've to exp everyone.

>> No.11701533

According to the wiki for 4-3
>Having at least 2 CAs will direct you from F->G and possibly J->F->G
I always run it with at least 2 CVs, yet I usually go J-F-D-G...

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>>11701466
I usually exp 3-2 or 3-3 first node with this setup since except ktkm i've to exp everyone.

>> No.11701539

>>11701533
Then try it with CAs you dummy.

>> No.11701542

>>11701539
I haven't got enough sleep. I even quote CA and they I complain about CVs...
Where's a redbull

>> No.11701546

>>11701466
Chiyoda/Chitose are only good for their free type A torpedoes I presume? So get them to that level then dump them as I see fit?

>> No.11701548

>>11701542
Aviation Cruiser won't work.

>> No.11701553

>>11701536
Flagship + 1SS 3CV/CVL/CT 1BB

Rotate constantly while ignoring flagship fatigue. You can grind forever doing this and the only thing you'll ever have to repair are the subs. As long as you have Tenzan or better for most of your planes it doesn't matter what level your ships are.

Your resources will eat shit though.

>>11701546
They're the best light carriers but they take forever to get there.

>> No.11701555
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>>11701521
Unremodeled dreadnoughts hit as hard as anyone, it's just that their armor, evasion, and luck is terrible. Well, they tie with Mutsu in the last department.

>> No.11701557

>>11701546
They're good light carriers, but they're ugly and light carriers are stupid.
Junyou is better either way.

>> No.11701564

>>11701557
ChitoChiyo are the best CVLs you can get.

>> No.11701567

>>11701564
They're still ugly and CVLs are still stupid.

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>>11701567
>They're still ugly

>> No.11701574

>>11701555
If you intend to use them in the flagship spot, it's probably better not to remodel them. The flagship protection is more than enough to keep them up and kicking, while the extra attack will help them nab extra MVPs.

>> No.11701578

>>11701571
Nothing attractive about ballooning tits.

>> No.11701580

>>11701571
Ugly meat.

>> No.11701583

>>11701578
>>11701580
Plebs, you should learn to love all kinds of breasts.

>> No.11701586

When are CVLs going to get 2nd remodels?
When are CVLs going to get their event?
When are CVLs finally going to get their chance to shine?

>> No.11701590

>>11701586
Next event, winter event.
We're going to need like 50k+ bauxite for it

>> No.11701591

So if you're a PVP dick (flagship and second ship lvl 1, everything else lvl99) for how long do you leave your main fleet with that horrible composition? Luckily I didnt get one today, just curious about how long I would have to wait.

>> No.11701593

>>11701586
Next year's halloween event.

>> No.11701604

>>11701586

CVL shines plenty as a leveling tool

>> No.11701605

>>11701590
>50k+ bauxite
Time to quit then

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>>11701571
Too big for me, I prefer smaller ones like with Shiratsuyu. Her new kai sprite and new damaged sprite are both pure perfection.

>> No.11701610

>>11701586
When their ASW capabilities are buffed above their current "here, please take this 2 damage plane" prowess.
When the escort carriers get into the game.
They already have their chance to shine, they're 3-2 team leaders par excellence.

>> No.11701612

>>11701607
Oh fuck, that's delicious.

>> No.11701615

>>11701610
My Chiyoda always hits normal subs for 17 to 20 damage with line abreast on.

>> No.11701624

>>11701615
You're useless as a sub killer if you can't 1HKO subs consistently.

>> No.11701629

>>11701624
Works enough for dailies.

>> No.11701640

>>11700924
Added translation for equipment and admiral ranks, also fixed this >>11700936.

Code
https://mega.co.nz/#!VkVQ1BAA!b-bsGzAcaWrWNk2EiyvAy2fSfKsfyVa47CVHH871Dg8

Exe
https://mega.co.nz/#!BoVDTbyI!RvyRMXR-007hK-KlPkU7Fh-VltQSaWKlk_aXN3XHwZM

>> No.11701644

>>11701640
Is everything translated now?

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Ha ha time for suffering

>> No.11701654

>>11701644
Yeah, everything should be translated now.

>> No.11701674

>>11701607
>side boob
>exposed armpint
>panchira

it's... perfect.

>> No.11701677

>>11701640
Are you people going to add this to the wiki?

>> No.11701703

>>11701650
Rather than suffering, you should actually be happy you unlocked 2-4, you tard. You opened up an easy grind spot.

>> No.11701715
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>>11701555
You know, i always wondered why their fire power was so low compared to other BBs but never checked jp wiki for their stats, now that you posted that pic i understand why.

>> No.11701728

Why is Zuihou so erotic?

I don't think any other Kanmusu beats her in this regard.

>> No.11701733
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11701733

>>11701728
>I don't think any other Kanmusu beats her in this regard.

>> No.11701749

>>11701733
Why would you put a sandvich between your legs?
Sandviches are meant to be eaten.

>> No.11701751

>>11701749
She wants you to eat it.

>> No.11701754
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11701754

>>11701728
That's not Tone.

>> No.11701759

>>11701715
Fusou is so beautiful. 10/10 would grab her hand and take her through Leyte Gulf.

>> No.11701764

>>11701759
And then sink her there right?

>> No.11701765

>>11701751
Ha, next time I'll be offering someone food I'll put it in my pants too - surely that will make someone hungrier.
Iku confirmed for silliest girl.

>> No.11701766

>>11701764
No, but damaged enough to see her almost naked body.

>> No.11701770

>>11701754
I don't know why but every time I see Tone I swear I can hear her speak with a thick Italian accent.

>> No.11701794
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11701794

Teitoku, always remember to give Yuubari Ai the best gear possible and take her to sorties as much as you can, when affection system will be implemented her damage will surpass every other ship.

>> No.11701800

>>11701794

why exactly?

>> No.11701823

Why 20.3 main cannon is listed as common, while smaller 15.2 main is rare? Does the additional accuracy affect a lot?

>> No.11701826

>>11701733

Iku isn't erotic, she's vulgar.

>> No.11701827

>>11701800
Because Melonchan is love and her navel is a miracle of the universe.

Jokes aside, because with 4 slots and her good stats she can become anything (except a CLT), and have multiple roles in a fleet: need decent firepower and an ASW ship? 2x15.5 yellow 1xSonar 1xDeptcharges, need good AA? check my pic, want max damage? equip 4x 15.5cm and see ships hit the sea floor, but she's a little squishy (only 36hp).

Just to be clear, you can live without her, but she's one of those ships that help a lot and will save you in lots of occasions.

>> No.11701834

>>11701826
She just wants to have fun time with Teitoku.

>> No.11701840

>>11701823

Rarer doesn't always mean better, I guess?

>> No.11701855

>>11701840
After a recheck, realized that it's not craftable (Agano-class stock), so I guess that's the reason. It's still shit, though.

>> No.11701860

>>11701855
Supposedly CLs can't use 20.3 properly or something according to the devs, so the 15.2 might not be totally useless.

>> No.11701862

>>11701855
Agano stock 15.2cm red cannon is shit, period, they can equip yellow 15.5 cannons, and that's the best piece of equipment you can put on any CA/CAV/CL/CLT.

>> No.11701863

>>11701855

Well, it is better than 14cm single as CL gear - apparently putting 20.3cm duals on CLs incurs some kind of penalty.

>> No.11701876

>>11701862
>yellow 15.5 cannons, and that's the best piece of equipment you can put on any CA/CAV/CL/CLT

Are you saying torpedo stacking on Ooi/KTKM is overkill?

>> No.11701885

>>11701733
I swear I didn't have a school swimsuit fetish before I played Kancolle.

>> No.11701889

>>11701876
Depends on what you're doing.

>> No.11701895
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>>11701876
is not only overkill, is useless because after a stat reaches 150 the extra points are worth much less (damage formula adds the extra points dividing by square root of 2 or something like that). You can one hit even a Nagato class BB with ktkm/ooi using the setup in pic.

>> No.11701910

>>11701895
Why is Kitakami so amazing?

>> No.11701921

>>11701895
Forgot to add that stacking torpedoes means having a cut-in attack at night, that's usually not recommended since is not 100% guaranteed, while double attack setup is guaranteed and has an high crit chance (250+ damage every hit).

Oh and midget subs don't count as torpedoes, so you'll never incur in a cut-in even if you stack 3, they work similarly as AA turrets or dept charges, they're neutral

>> No.11701928

>>11701921
So stack midget subs

>> No.11701930

>>11701921
Torpedo cut-ins only require 2 btw

>> No.11701929

>>11701876
Only during the daytime. If you want to be able to one-shot bosses at night with a cut-in with almost no ammo remaining while moderately damaged, sure, why not.

>> No.11701942

If my battleship misses one more shot I swear to god I will scrap her.

>> No.11701949

>>11701928
That's even worse, stacking midget subs will not even give the possibility of cut-ins.

>> No.11701952

>>11701921

I get what you're saying, but double attack being guaranteed is false. You can still end up with a single attack even with a double attack setup, it's just a lot more unlikely.

>> No.11701954

>>11701942
start crafting more Type 32 radars. 10/11/251/250. Stack at least two of them on your favorite big-gun ladies.

>> No.11701959

>>11701954

What's the preferred flagship for this one?

>> No.11701960

>>11701942
Who's your BB? Fusou?

Because if so I agree; she has the accuracy of a drunk politician.

>> No.11701962

>>11701952
Never had a single attack with a dual setup.

>> No.11701964

>>11701928
but stacking neutral weapons doesn't trigger anything, you'll simply shoot a torpedo, while stacking 3+ cannons or 1 torpedo + 1 cannon can trigger a cut-in, at least that gives a good chance of dealing destructive damage.

>>11701952
You sure? because i spent 4 days in E-4 and E-5 doing only night battles and my double attack setup always triggered, you can get a double miss or double chip damage but it will always trigger a double attack.

>> No.11701966

>>11701954
It's getting absolutely fucking ridiculous, I'm eating torpedos and having to pay for repairs in 3-2 because my ships simply cannot handle the Flagship CL sometimes. Just miss, miss, miss, 7-9 damage from KTKM or Ooi, DD that I'm grinding does absolutely nothing because DDs during day are worth less than an aviation cruiser with a single Zuiun on it. Granted it doesn't happen often but when I eat a 40 crit on my Mutsu (or Akagi) for a bucket and 250-300 steel, it gets annoying.
>>11701960
Nope, Mutsu. Which is probably just as bad but god damn it, she's at level 60.

>> No.11701975

God, I wish we had a better quest tracker.

>> No.11701976

>>11701942

you are talking about that fucking yellow faggot in 3-2-A aren't you. 90% of my level 60 Kongou are misses.

>> No.11701978

>>11701962
>>11701964
Diff anon but I have experienced double attack setups failing to double attack. They were double attacking fine just one node before and then they fail the next node and end up only with a single attack.

It's a much higher chance than cut ins for sure but it has a really small chance to fail.

>> No.11701981

>>11701976
Yeah. He has godly ASW and evasion, I'd put that fucker in my fleet if I could.

>> No.11701984

This is gonna sound fucking stupid but I just got a sub (Imuya). How should I go about leveling her and using her?

I have no experience in using subs and the wiki doesn't say anything (that I have found). I did stick an emergency repair on her to be safe.

>> No.11701987

>>11701966
Go get a sub and make them tank the damage.

>> No.11701988

>>11701984
The sub stuff is here
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/EliteSS

>> No.11701990

>>11701984
You don't grind a sub, you use her to grind other ships.

>> No.11701991

>>11701976
That faggot just survived a full wave from my 40-60 fleet.
It took a 164 crit in the closing salvo, but still.

>> No.11701992

>>11701984
What levels do you have unlocked? If you've got 3-2, stick her in the flagship slot and put a decent fleet behind her. Best way to level any ship, but she'll tank in 3-2-1 and help mitigate damage for the rest of you fleet.
>>11701987
I do have a sub, but the torpedos fired at the end of the shelling stage focus on actual ships and not subs.

>> No.11701993

>>11701962
>>11701964

I'm fairly sure I remember it happening a few times during the event with my DDs, but I guess I could be remembering wrong since wikia seems to agree with 100% rate. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention and missed the second attack.

>> No.11701997

>>11701981
I use nagato against that guy, she used to miss a lot but she rarely misses now after her remodel and always hits for a lot of damage even when T-crossed.

>> No.11701999

>>11701966
I've never noticed Mutsu missing any worse than other BBs.

>> No.11702002

>>11701999
She used to be fine (and still is most of the time, I guess) but I just feel like she's missing more and more often.

>> No.11702005

>>11701992
I have all the way till 2-4 unlocked (got her in the 2-3 boss node).

I guess I'll keep her on flagship so she doesn't sink while the other slots are taken by my BBs and Akagi.

I'm guessing right now she's not that good for soloing 2-4 (at her level)?

>> No.11702006

>>11701966
Use sub, BB and CV for 3-2.
CLT if you're training them too, most or all of the enemies will be dead before you get to the shelling phase.

>> No.11702012

>>11701991
What kind of fleet are you using?
I'm currently running an average lvl49 fleet(my CVL is pulling the average up here) and I'm having absolutely no problem even scoring a perfect S occasionally.

>> No.11702015

>>11702006
My set-up is
DD (Murusame right now, training her to Kai)
BB (Mutsu Kai)
CV (Akagi Kai)
CLT (Ooi Kai)
CLT (Kitakami Kai)
SS (I-58 or I-19)
I just find that if I get a bad shelling phase, only Mutsu and Akagi can scratch more than the paint on the CL, although my CLTs are still surprisingly decent against DDs assuming Mutsu doesn't nuke them first.

>> No.11702029

>>11702005
Solo 2-4 with only Imuya? Not gonna happen, every node has at least 1DD and 2CL they'll attack her, and seeing how ASW was greatly buffed, if her level isn't high enough (80+) she'll probably get in the red on first node, you can have better chances with 3+ subs since opening torpedo attack with probably target the dd/cl (not guaranteed, but happens quite often).

Go exp her in 3-2 as Flag, or solo 4-1/2-3, 4-1 yields much better exp even if you fail (620ish exp) while in 2-3 there are better chance of survivability.

>> No.11702032

>>11702015
And you cant get a perfect S with that overkill team?
You're clearly doing something wrong there or just have some mutsu-tier luck.

My team is Iku, Nagato, Noshiro, Shoukaku, Suzuya and Ooi here.
Shoukaku will kill 2-4 enemies at the start, Ooi and Iku will kill 1-2 enemies and my other ships just clean up the survivors without a problem even when T-crossed.

>> No.11702035
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11702035

THIS FAGGOT

>> No.11702036

>>11701966
Level up a CA too.
I've been leveling on 3-2 with no CV or CVL, and as long as I have two strongish hitters (two BB, or BB and a CA) I pretty much never have a problem with getting torpedoed.

>> No.11702040

>>11702032
I almost always score S even if my ships fuck up.
I get PS quite a bit. I might be exaggerating the frequency a little, but it does happen and it's fucking annoying when it does.

>> No.11702057

>>11702015
drop a torp sister for a CA or CV(L), torp sisters are pretty crap until Kai2.

>> No.11702061

>>11702035
Just saw him get blasted to bits four torpedos. Lovin' it. But seriously, that flagship has pretty nice evasion.

>> No.11702062

>>11702029
Well, as I said, I only have up to 2-4 unlocked. I guess I'll exp her in 2-3 and have a fleet behind her.

>> No.11702064
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11702064

>>11702015
you might want to upgrade those blue planes, because you can get perfect S rank with almost any fleet

>> No.11702069

So, has anyone else ever experienced your double attack setup failing and only firing single shots before? I've had it happen to me a few times I thought I was just imagining things the first time it failed.

It should probably be cleared up that double attack setups are not a 100% trigger though the chance of it failing is probably extremely low.

>> No.11702068

>>11702064
I just spent 6k bauxite trying to get better torp bombers. Got everything else but those.

>> No.11702073

>>11702064

Not that guy, but which recipe did you use for crafting those?

>> No.11702077

>>11702073
20/90/60/110 with my level 90 sparkly Akagi as flag

>> No.11702083

>>11702064
You act like I'm not trying.

>> No.11702088
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11702088

>>11702083
Well, that would have went better with my image.

>> No.11702099

>>11702077
>lvl90
>sparkly
Do those matter?
I thought it's only the flagship and HQ level

>> No.11702103

>>11702099
Apparently it does

>> No.11702113

Classic question: red or blue planes? I have tons of Ryuusei and even Ryuusei-Kai, but I have no luck in getting decent dive bomber, only one Suisei 12. Should I try getting more?

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>>11701330
Starting book 4.

>> No.11702145
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>>11702140

>> No.11702154

>>11701548
Not him, but crap. I was wondering why I didn't get to the boss when I have Maya and Suzuya. Time to level Chokai or Kinugasa, then.

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11702160

>>11702145
Now I think about it, it's 'Houshou' right? Why did I keep dropping the U and writing Hosho.

>> No.11702161

>>11702005
Damn, Imuya never dropped on 2-3 for me. Only 3-3 after a fuckton of grinding.

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11702165

>>11702160
I'll try to get a few more pages done later tonight.

>> No.11702167

>>11702113
Depends a lot on what you are going fight, most "endgame" maps have quite too many elite BB/CA so you want to stack on red planes since blue planes do chip damage on heavily armoured ships, on other hand if enemy fleet has many light ships (CL/DD) you want to clean as many as possible with opening attack so you equip mostly blue planes, if there're carriers equip green planes too to prevent yours from being destroyed in opening attack, just remember that red planes bombardment attack misses quite often.
I usually equip the medium slots with Suisei/Ryuusei and the big one with Reppu, while the 4th has always Sayun, just remember that if you use multiple CV/CVL 1 Sayun per fleet is enough to prevent T cross.

>> No.11702168

Still need an Imuya, all I managed to do was craft a Goya within 10 tries.

>> No.11702169

>>11702160
>student teachers
So they're still in training/studying to become teachers?

>> No.11702177

>>11702169
Yes. Are they called something else anywhere?

>> No.11702196

>>11702177
Nah, you're right, I'm just being an uneducated fool again. The term just sounded weird to me.

>> No.11702201

>>11702167
I see, thanks. I guess I'll try to get one more Suisei 12, so I can have decent dive bomber for both my 2 CVs.

>> No.11702208

Game just gave me 3 I-168s in a row. I just want a Torpedo Cruiser...

>> No.11702209
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11702209

I think I need to train her harder now.

>> No.11702215

>>11702209
Send her to the scrap yard

>> No.11702218

>>11702215
5th cardiv pls go

>> No.11702219

>>11701895
You should read the damage calculation mechanism again. Stacking over 150 damage is not useless.

>> No.11702257

I just want a Kaga or a crane sister.

>> No.11702277

>>11702257
Hiryuu is a great CV too, the only problem is that she loves tamon maru and not you

>> No.11702320

For A27, does remodelled Iku count as a sub for this quest?

>> No.11702333
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11702333

This is my setup for 5-2

>> No.11702339

>>11702320
they fixed that. remodeled subs are fine for these quests now

>> No.11702375

>>11701640
You probably should have posted this with tripcode, just saying

>> No.11702433
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11702433

>>11701458
>Shiratsuyu-class: name ship
I'll fight you until you're dead.

>> No.11702437

>>11702433
No need to fight with ruse masters, just ignore them

>> No.11702481
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11702481

I'm really starting to feel the repair times now that my girls are getting stronger.

Do most just start using buckets for anything over an hour or two?

>> No.11702485

>>11702481
I wait until I get to orange to repair and then use a bucket.
I usually just do easy nodes anyways.

>> No.11702492

>>11702481
Buckets and overnight.

>> No.11702505

>>11702481
I have four docks but I only bucket if the wait is over two hours, I have more ships waiting to get in, or I just need them right away. That's when I do stupid shit like bucketing for a fifteen minute wait. You rarely need more than four ships in there at a time and you aren't taking critical damage if there isn't an event or you aren't hellbent on clearing something. I took it easy through E-2 without wasting a single bucket by just rotating through damaged ships and napping when too many were knocked out. But if you spam the second expedition all day buckets aren't that big of a concern.

>> No.11702514

>>11702433
But you didn't even post a Shiratsuyu.

>>11702437
Most of it is still still true. Akagas are everywhere, but when's the last time you saw someone post a Soryuu?

>> No.11702532

So, now that even the staff is warning about the bauxite rape in the upcoming event, how much do you guys think we'll need?

>> No.11702551
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11702551

>>11702514
Right now

>> No.11702570

>>11702532
I want to fix my bauxite levels first.everything else is like double, triple or four times it.

>> No.11702573

>>11702514

that's because the games basically gives you an Akagi for free

>> No.11702620
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11702620

>>11702514
More often than Hiryuu

>> No.11702636

>>11702620
It's the tits. Not that I mind as I find Souryuu the more attractive of the two.

>> No.11702648

>>11702514
They dont the personality.
They also arent as common as Akagi/Kaga so teitokus cant use them to go through the hardship of 2-4 and 3-4 as compare to the 1st cardiv

>> No.11702673

Is expedition 6, really the best way to get bauxite? My Akagi is eating way faster than I can get it. I'm going to have none for the event...

>> No.11702685

>>11702514
>Shigure is part of the Shiratsuyus
Are you blind or what?

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11702690

>>11702620
Is she Doraemon?

>> No.11702709

>>11702673
You can do 2-2 bauxite farm if you're really desperate.

>> No.11702735

>>11700447
I lost Mogami, Iku, Ooi

>> No.11702742
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11702742

Anyone care to translate the text on the left?

>> No.11702745

>>11700447
Why are Mogamifags so obnoxious?

>> No.11702749

>losing ships
i cant even imagine how stupid you would have to be to do this on accident.

>> No.11702753

>>11702749
If your ship is fine during the day battle, but goes to red before night battle, is there a chance she could get sunk during night battle? Or does it all count as one battle?

>> No.11702761

>>11702753
No problems with changing day to night.

>> No.11702768

>>11702753
imagine the ship in question was your flagship. would you be sent back to port now? if not, it will not sink when you continue. if yes, it may sink if you continue.

>> No.11702782

>>11702753
Ships only sink when you advanced to new node on red. Day to night transition doesnt count as new node.

>>11702749
If you havent sink anyone yet, you arent playing kancolle.

>> No.11702798

>>11702749
I sink my destroyers on a daily basis as cannon fodder for my other ships.

I am an admiral with no heart.

>> No.11702799

I want to keep at least 1 of each ship as well has leave some of the good to modernise ships around for later. But shitting on 98/100 ships and constantly having to have to merge 1 or 2 and going back to base if I ever hit 100 is making this game tiresome.

>> No.11702823

>>11702782
>>11702798
like i said, "on accident"
i haven't sunk anyone i was afraid of losing.

>> No.11702829

>>11702799
>But shitting on 98/100 ships
Let's keep it SFW here, man.

>> No.11702830

>>11702799
You need to buy two harbor expansions minimum if you want to have a complete Kantai Collection, even more if you want room for modernization material. How much do you love your shipdaughters?

>> No.11702954

>>11702165
Didn't I translate this before?
http://exhentai.org/g/627726/903ec5f95d/
How come no one uploaded the translated version?

I might do this one next:
http://exhentai.org/g/646850/a3402e372e/

Welp we've hit image limit. I can't delete my old images, and I can't post the next pages...

>> No.11702959

>>11702954
You mind posting a mediafire link?

>> No.11702971

>>11702954
What's the general Chinese opinion of kankore?
Don't they consider it militaristic propaganda?

>> No.11702980

>>11702971
Honestly, every younger generation that wasn't directly affected by the wars, etc. Don't really give a shit.

>> No.11703003

>>11702959
I don't have it anymore. I thought someone uploaded it so I never saved a copy myself.

>> No.11703019

>>11702954
It's fine, we're 1225 posts and page 10, we'll have a new thread soon.

>> No.11703021

>>11702971
To be fair, IJN and IJA hates each other.
IJA was the one doing all the shit in China. Reading through the old history articles, air/naval warfare is freaking honorable compare to the shit that the armies did.

>> No.11703030

>>11703021
What about tanks?
I remember seeing a couple of Chinese boards for GuP.

>> No.11703038

>>11703030
GuP glorifies German tanks. Nothing to do with WW2.

>> No.11703050

>>11703038
There was a Japanese Chi Nu as part of the Oarai team.

>Nothing to do with WW2.
Yeah, let's forget that every school team was a little girl version of the Axis/Allied Powers

>> No.11703082

>>11702971
There's an editorial from an SK newspaper which claims what you've asked, but gooks always try to find some way to boost their victim ego as if they're the only ones who got royally screwed by the Japs.

>> No.11703136

>>11702209
CV are very easy to train. Just put them as flagship and watch them go super saiyan by snatching consecutive MVP spots.

>> No.11703140

>>11702481
Except for events, buckets are reserved for ships that I need to train. Other than that, my docks are always full except for that one slot for ships on my training list. As you can probably tell, my repair queue is rarely empty.

>> No.11703148

>>11703021
>air/naval warfare is freaking honorable compare to the shit that the armies did.
IJA and IJN are both equally horrible. Pilots from both services strafed Allied pilots who had already bailed out from their planes but then again, the allies did the same during the Battle of Bismarck Sea. POWs from sunk ships were usually beaten before being shot, tossed overboard or beheaded. No wonder the allies weren't really too happy shooting any Jap they encounter.

>> No.11703151

>>11703148
I meant, were more too happy.

>> No.11703155

>>11703148
War is hell; not much more that can be said.

>> No.11703166

So how do I beat 3-2? I finally leveled my destroyers up to Kais, but they're still absolutely worthless. Why the fuck did the devs think it was a good idea to force you to use the most worthless class of ship that struggles to do 10 damage, let alone hit, for a map with BBs?

>> No.11703167

Gooks and chinks always fall on to WWII whenever they spout their anti eleven garbage. My country was the site of horrible death marches and we've more or less moved on. I just don't understand.

Would be nice to have had our own shipgirls instead of relying on the USN through the whole war.

>> No.11703170

>>11703148
Of course those nips are generally bastards but air and naval warfare are fought honorably most of the time.

>While he was hanging in his parachute, the P-51s circled above him, and Hartmann wondered if they would take this opportunity to kill him. One of the P-51Bs flown by Lt. Robert J. Goebel of the 308th Squadron, 31st Fighter Group, broke away and headed straight for him. Goebel was making a camera pass to record the bailout and banked away from him only at the last moment, waving at Hartmann as he went by.

>> No.11703174

>>11703166
Are you not doing night battles? They absolutely rape those BB's with torps during that phase. Of course, a little bit of luck helps in keeping them healthy during day phase.

>> No.11703181

>>11703166
Maximise your evasion; choose line abreast and equip turbines if you have them. Most importantly, pray that RNG is on your side.

>> No.11703183

>>11703170
Whiteys are pansy asses with their code of honor in warfare. Asians go above and beyond to throw that shit out of the window and fight tooth and nail.

>> No.11703184

>>11703166
>the most worthless class of ship
These lowbie teitokus are so clueless.
Wait till you reach the end game, you would be cursing and asking why are BB so shitty.

>> No.11703190

>>11703155
At least the ETO had the "War without hate" thingy.
>>11703170
Yeah it was in the ETO that at least both sides have a sense of honor. Adolf Galland considered strafing pilots who bailed out as murder and a U-boat commander rescued the survivors of the ship he just sank. The japs, well they don't have a sense of honor, or rather they had a twisted sense of honor, save for a few others like the commander of Ikazuchi.
>>11703167
Assuming your from the same country as I am, well the Japanese did give us a lot of compensations, save for just of those rape victims still crying out for justice.
And when it comes to ships, well the most we have is a hand me down Coast Guard ship, we don't even have a proper navy or air force.

>> No.11703192

>>11703184
More like you're unwilling to field your level 82 Kongou Kai2 because of her abhorrent repair time. I still field BB to clear maps but end game really teaches you about the diversifying your fleet.

>> No.11703197

>>11703192
I only bring 1 BB per map, unless if I wanted to bruteforce a map, I'd field 1CV, 1CVL, 2 CLT and 2 BBs, except for those maps that require a special fleet composition. I've been leveling destroyers and a CAV but they're generally a pain to level since they rarely get MVP.

>> No.11703201 [DELETED] 

When will heavy cruisers get a 2nd Kai? And potentially who would it be?

>> No.11703208

>>11703201
Here's hoping for Ashigara. That said, which CA had the most impressive track record?

>> No.11703217

>>11703208
>>11703201
I wish for any Takao class or Furutaka class.

>> No.11703241

>>11703208
>>11703217
Why is Kinugasa Kai2 so bad?

>> No.11703242

>>11703167

Philippines isn't exactly neighbors with Japan. I'm guessing there's less territorial disputes and any posturing by self-serving nationalists is directed at another neighboring country instead.

>> No.11703253

>>11703201
Maya.

>> No.11703261

>>11703241
Cheap ruse there.

>> No.11703299

>>11703241
I know right?
There is absolutely nothing else in her but getting that card in that library.
Of course if there are anons who likes her, lucky for them I guess.

>> No.11703306

>>11703253
But Mayas already kind of decent...

I'm hoping Mogami gets a Kai2, even though it doesn't really make sense "lore" wise.

>> No.11703314

>>11703306
She really deserves one! I hope it's cute, girly clothing.

>> No.11703317

So, for 5-2 G->E node, jp wiki said something like this: 正規空母2隻以上3隻以下を含む艦隊はE(要検証) . それ以外はランダム(Hが大体80%)

So at least 2 regular aircraft but less than 3? Does that mean exactly 2 aircraft carriers then?

>> No.11703327

>>11703317
Not less than 2, not more than 3.

>> No.11703344

>>11703327
Oh, I fail my basic Mandarin. 3隻以下, less than or equal to 3. Thank you.

>> No.11703357

>>11703317
2 CV and 1 CVL. I've never gone anywhere but the boss node with those three in my fleet.

>> No.11703435

Should I bother leveling up spare Mayas for modernization?

I'm already doing that for Mogamins and Isuzus, but even for them it's a little bit slow, so they're actually taking up lots of space.

>> No.11703438

>>11703435
Why would you want to do that?
You are just wasting fuel and ammo to sortie them.
Remodeling cost resources too.

>> No.11703442

>>11702742
I'm not sure but I think it says
「Learn Japanese、 Faggot」 - The Shimakaze

>> No.11703451

>>11703435

Even Isuzu farming isn't worth it.

Just farm your usual spots and you'll get CVLs aplenty to boost AA.

>> No.11703459

>>11703451
This.
Dont even bother farming for the radar.
You would be swimming in type21 radar once you started to craft for higher tier radar. Besides most kai CA come with their own radar.

>> No.11703481

>>11703438
>>11703451
Oh right, I forgot to take resources into consideration. Time for them to be food then.

Although, I felt that the game was compelling me to do it with all the Isuzu it kept giving me.

>> No.11703511

http://i.imgur.com/OdfaDej.jpg

Well, this is a first.

>> No.11703523

New Thread
>>11703520

>> No.11703526

Why is the 20.3.cm (no3) gun only a rare?
It is uncraftable and you can only get it from the rarest drop in game or a hard grind to lvl55? Some of this game classification is weird.

>> No.11703537

>>11703511
That's some crazy and fucked up shit.

>> No.11703537,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>11695082
>To non-/jp/-regulars: /jp/ has its own standards for posting. It would be greatly appreciated if you could follow them. These include, but are not limited to discouraging the use of most emoticons and proper use of the quoting function (don't use it for bullet points: greentexting).

.........................
neo-/jp/.

>> No.11703537,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>11703537,1
Yeah, remember when we would all partake in such fun /v/ custom like greentexting? How dare these neofags decide they won't allow it?

>> No.11703537,3 [INTERNAL] 

is kantai collection fun

>> No.11703537,4 [INTERNAL] 

>>11703537,1
Honestly, it's the lesser of two evils.

>> No.11703537,5 [INTERNAL] 

>>11703537,2
>>11703537,4
Do you not understand that this is a tell-tale sign that OP is linking his shitty thread all over the place?

>> No.11703537,6 [INTERNAL] 

>>11703537,5
The OP has probably changed, it's been a template for a while. The only real stream of visitors we get are people in /a/ who are told "NOT ANIME >>>/jp/" and the like.

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